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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Old Behave show on Pet Life Radio.
I'm your host, Arden Moore. You know it is about
dog on time that our dogs can join us on flights.
Talking about putting them in the cargo area, I'm talking
about having them in the cabin sitting right next to you.
We're talking a well mannered dog of any size that
includes big dogs. Well, on today's show, our special guest
has come up with a plan to make the skies
truly pet friendly. Please welcome to our show. He is
the founder of K nine Jets and he is Adam Golder.
Welcome to the show, Adam.
Speaker 4: Hi, thank you for having me along. Really appreciate it.
Nice to meeting all right.
Speaker 1: Now, I know you said you were from Birmingham, but
let's get the country.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're based in Birmingham in the UK, so
not to be confused with Alabama, but Birmingham in the UK.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Birmingham, Alabama?
Speaker 4: And do you know what I haven't. I've got clothes,
but I know maybe I need to just tick off
the box I.
Speaker 1: Think, and I think you should ask in Birmingham, England.
If somebody is from America, you should ask him. Now
your mission is to ask him what they're from Birmingham, Alabama.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'll do that. It will be a
good challenge to see you doing this.
Speaker 1: Caneine jets. What is that because you know these days
it's really tough to fly. I take my cat, who
is a therapy cat and teaches pet fir State. We
teach cat behavior and cat for steak classes. But he's
in a little cargo thing, in a little bag in
front of my seat. I never put them in cargo,
but I have a thirty five pound dog who would
love to come with us, and there's no way I'm
putting ConA in a cargo. So talk about what came
up to create canine Jets, Adam, of course.
Speaker 4: Well, basically, I went some media for twenty years and
during COVID I was furled from my job all right,
which I know, but it turned out to be good, right.
It created love opportunities for people and I cently grubbed up.
So I've always had a passion for aviation but never
been able to make a leap from media into aviation,
and CAVID was that sort of stepping stone for me.
So we started up a private boutique charts company, initially
targeting super wealthy people that couldn't fly on the airlines
because no one was running.
Speaker 1: And you ever got the memo, Oh wait a minute,
I got to check my W two. Nope, I didn't qualify.
Speaker 4: Well, we started with targeting super wealthy people, high net
worth individuals, ultra high networth that could afford to chart
but haven't thought about it previously. And we run that
company for about one year and met some really lovely people,
but obviously charting your own jet is quite out of
touch for most folk you know that are traveling internationally
or locally domestically in the US. And then one day
we had a phone call from a gentleman that was
based in London. He was a US citizen and he
was desperate to get his dog back to New York.
And he'd phone me up and said, look, we need
a quote for a jet for ten people and ten dogs,
which was from a charter perspective, is I unheard of.
So we spoke to him more detail on it, and
he was part of a group on Facebook that had
met together and they had all clubbed together and had
a pass of money to chart their own jet. Another
thing that happened in COVID was that the price of
cargoes significantly increased. So when you actually look at the
cost of a chartering and jet compared to flying your
dog in cargo when you've got ten people together, it's
actually there's not a huge amount of difference in the price.
So he introduced me to this world of Facebook where
there's loads of people getting together to share the cost,
but every time we did it. So we helped out
probably about twenty groups in twenty twenty two, and every
time we did it, everyone said, look, you just need
to launch your own company focusing on buying a SIAT
and fly over your dog on the airline, basically with
canine jets. And that's where the idea came from.
Speaker 1: Wow, hey, we're speaking with Adam Golder. He was a
guy who got fired and then he got fired up
and this is it's the true entrepreneurial tale where dogs
are partying up in the sky with you and we're
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the old Behave show on pet Life Radio.
I'm your host, Arden More. I love this guy already.
We are speaking with Adam Golder. He is a guy
that loves animals. He's got an entrepreneur spirit and as
we all know, if you get fired or you get
a setback, failures make you a stronger, better person. And
he knows how to use social media. So as you
were explaining, Adam, you kind of fell into this, but
you listened to your audience, your potential target market.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah. Absolutely, And this the people that we meet
now that have one thing in common, and they all
love the pets. And we don't just fly by the way,
hence our name being canine. We do actually fly cats.
It would be pleased to.
Speaker 1: Know, Well, are you sure they're not trying to fly
the plane themselves. They're pretty smart and savvy. You know,
they could unhook that little pack to the pilot and
say I got this.
Speaker 4: I'm sure they probably could, but know that they're kept
well away from the cockpit.
Speaker 1: Okay, any other unusual animal that you would fly cats dogs.
Speaker 4: So not ninety of our pets pet passengers are dogs.
For only five percent of cats. There's probably partly because
of our name. Yeah, and most people discover that we're
cat friendly. But we've had some geckos, the five of us,
some bearded.
Speaker 1: Anyone's representing any insurance companies, maybe.
Speaker 4: We've got some bearded dragons, geckos. Some birds fly domestically,
rabbits as well in guinea pigs. So, but a majority
of majority of you know, are dogs, and slightly larger
ones than the normally because I know in the US
some airlines will allow smaller pups to fly in the
cabin that's right. But the beauty of us we don't
have a size restriction. So we have you know, great danes.
Oh you know Bernie's Mountain dogs fly of us.
Speaker 1: That was one of my dogs. I had a Bernie
named Bougel. Yeah. General giants, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, beautiful dogs. But but then we have smaller dogs
as well, you know, small terriers, dashounds, you know, whole mix.
And it's so rewarding to be able to get people
from A to B with their family members because you know,
we meet so many people now that that want to
fly and travel, but they don't think they can because
they don't want to put their petting cargo. And don't
get me wrong, cargo is a safe way to fly.
You know, four million pets are transferred or flowing across
the world every year according to a piparter And this
is just a new solution.
Speaker 1: I'm going to jump in and say, if I'm going
to take my dog, my dog's gone first class and
they're going to be in the cabin with me because
things can happen in cargo and I'm in the behavior field,
and who knows what they're thinking in there, Like I
didn't even get a meal. I didn't even get a meal.
So the fact that you have canine jets, I mean,
do you have anybody in your family that was ever
a pilot or in aviation or how did I mean?
This is kind of a wild tale, Adam.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, honestly, we totally fell into it. My
granddad back in the day, I used to build spitfires
in the war. We have never had anyone flown. And
then when he passed away, he left me a very
small amount of money to learn to fly. He left
me a small amount of money and with that I
had a flying lesson just to experience it. I just
got hooked on aviation straight away. I have my own
private license, but never been able to have the opportunity
to fly commercially. So that's where my passion is coming from.
From aviation especially.
Speaker 1: So there are a lot of people here in the
United States, I know obviously in Europe too, But I
think after COVID, you know, we found out how much
our dogs really are good for us mentally, physically, you
name it. And so what I'm interested in asking you
is do you I think COVID in in a weird way,
has boost the public acknowledgement that dogs do a body good.
Speaker 4: I think so. I mean, certainly, obviously we got into
this business at the back end of COVID, but from
all the research that shows there was a huge amount
of pets urchist within the COVID period because you know,
so many people are on their own for so long
during that lockdown period, especially in the UK here. I'm
sure the same in the US as well. And you know,
people see them as their family and family members and
they're no longer dogs or cats. They're part of your family.
And oh absolutely most people wouldn't want their family member
to go in cargo. So I think the connection is
stronger than ever. And like you say, the public and
acknowledgment I think is certainly there to support that.
Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, we're speaking with Adam Golder here is the
founder of canine Jets. We're going to dive in a
little bit or maybe hit new heights with some of
the specifics about what canine Jets is all about, why
and how you should consider maybe having your dog join
you on your next trip from one coast to the next.
And I have some great news. Are pals at Regal
dot Ai. Yeah, that's the group that builds AI agents
for brands. They just unleashed an AI dog hotline.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is how it works. You're gonna actually
get to chat with a dog. Now, you get to
pick one of the fifteen breeds they've got on their site.
You go to Regal dot ai slash dog, And of
course I'm gonna pick the Siberian Husky because I'm gonna
do it in honor of my dog, Chipper. And how
it works is you go on to the website and
you dial the number, and here it is eight four
five two seven three three one nine seven. Stay tuned.
I'm about to chat with a Siberian husky. Let's do it.
Speaker 5: There, I'm your Siberian Husky. I'm so excited to be
speaking human. I can't believe it. I took a nap
and then woke up and now all of a sudden,
I'm speaking to you. It's so crazy. It must be
crazy for you too. Anyway, can you tell me what
my name is? The name that you call me, Chipper Keeper?
Now that the name hit for an explorer, it's perfect.
Speaking of perfect, what's something you've always wanted to tell me?
Now that I can talk?
Speaker 1: How come you are such a talented escape artist? Chipper
Ah Escape.
Speaker 5: Artist three is an adventure in itself. I prefer to
think of it as exploring new horizon. Speaking of adventures,
do you think we could take a run together soon?
The wind in my fur await.
Speaker 1: Let's go run on the beach A dog friendly beach.
Speaker 5: Okay, Chipper, A dog friendly beach, Now that sounds like
the perfect escapade, the sand beneath my paws and the
waves to chase it. Oh, did I catch a whiff
of snacks? Maybe we could bring some tasty treat for
a beach picnic.
Speaker 1: How about a chunk of chatdar cheese?
Speaker 5: Chipper, chatter cheese, Now that's a snack worthy of an explorer.
Just imagining the melting goodness makes my tail wags. Can
we munch on that together after our beach run? Life
better with.
Speaker 1: Cheese, absolutely, Chipper. And then we can take a dog nap.
Speaker 5: A post adventure nap. Now that's just the cherry on
top of our amazing day. Adventures and cheese followed by
snuggle sounds like a perfect plan. All right, I've been
talking up a storm, but the wild called me. Time
to dream of snowcapped mountains and adventures with you. Call
me back anytime. Can't wait to chat again soon.
Speaker 4: Love you, Chipper, Love you too.
Speaker 5: You and me were the ultimate team. Now off to
the wild dreams until next time.
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Speaker 1: Back to the old Behave show on pet Life Radio.
I'm your host, Arden Moore. I am chatting with Adam Boulder.
He is the founder, the genius of Canine Jets. Go
ahead and say the website. Let's say if it's easy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's canine Jets dot Calm. Or you can visit
us on the Instagram and it's just canine Jets. You'll
find a straight on that.
Speaker 1: So let's be specific. How does this work. Let's say
we've got somebody with Bernie's mountain dog who's so sweet
and cuddly and they live in La Yeah, and you
want to visit your family that live in the Big Apple,
New York City and this dog is welcomed. That's a
long road trip. How does canine jets how can you
make it a win win for everyone?
Speaker 4: So it's super simple. You head to our website caninejets
dot com and literally put in your from location. So LA.
We only fly to and from private airport, So you'll
be flying from Van NAIs, which is private airport in LA.
Then two will be Teeterborough in New Jersey, so just
outside in New York, and they will bring up all
the dates. We fly monthly currently between coast to coast.
You select the number of passengers you want to come
with you because you have to have one person and
one pet initially, but if you wanted the whole family
to come, more than welcome to But do there only
need one person to five of your dog?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you at least have to have one person per pet.
You can't have ten chihuahuas in one person, right.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, we do. We do have a pet limit.
So yeah, one person, one large dog, one person basically,
but if you wanted to add more people, you can do.
But it's simply into your pets details name, pre temperament, weights,
anything else.
Speaker 1: Like peanuts not No, peanuts are bad, don't give it tom.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, any other information that we need to know
about the pub as well. And literally within sixty seconds
you could a book to fly of US.
Speaker 1: So you're looking for do you have to have like
a health certificate, vaccination records, what some of the specifics.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So flying domestically between LA and New York, you
don't need anything, so there's no requirements. If you're flying internationally,
then then that's when you'll need more documents in terms
of a health certificate or a GB or EU depending
on what country you're flying to. But to flying domestically,
you don't need anything, which is super easy when you're
flying between LA and New York. Some of the states
if you're traveling outside of that area, may require them,
like at least the rabies vaccination, but certainly to find domestically,
it's super easy.
Speaker 1: And you can fit how many in your jets.
Speaker 4: So we have no more than nine people. They seats
between thirteen and fifteen people, but we don't sell more
than nine seats, so typically there'll be nine people a maximum,
and typically nine pups.
Speaker 1: And would they be in crates? Would they be on
harnesses and leashes, how are they traveling?
Speaker 4: So yeah, the beauty of traveling with us is no crates.
So they literally sit by your side, so they unleashes
the whole time, so they're not allowed to wonder around
the aircraft. They have to stay by your side. I
know many people have this perception is a big, big
dog party in the sky, which is would not be safe.
Speaker 1: But you're talking to somebody who actually created National Dog
Party Day years ago. I did and wrote a book
on it. I don't think I want to be partying
in the sky with the dogs.
Speaker 4: And obviously, you know, we we love dogs, but the
safety is the number one priority as well for everyone
on board and obviously the crew. But yeah, they're on leashes.
They sit by your side or on your lap obviously
the size of them, and they stretch out into the aisles.
Normally they sleep the whole way, yeah, whatever flight, because
the sound of the engines that like white noise, like
with a baby, so they get very sleepy and sleep
most of the way. And obviously they can see you.
You can see them. They're very you know, relaxed and
you know, but they're by their owners, so they can
be happier.
Speaker 1: So cost you know, we're going to ask that do
I buy my lottery winning ticket now or later?
Speaker 4: Sure? So, flying domestically it is more expensive than flying cargo. No,
it is a luxury ticket, I guess. But so the
cost is just over six half thousand dollars from coast
to coast.
Speaker 1: Is that one way or both ways?
Speaker 4: That's one way?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: When you're flying internationally, so La to London for example,
that is just over thirteen thousand dollars. But when you
have a large dog and you compare that cost of
flying cargo fly internationally, is knowledge difference?
Speaker 1: Give us a reason? Why is that? Because I think
I'd rather have my big dog with me then have
that big dog in the cargo and it costs me.
Speaker 4: Sure. So basically, the some of the options are limited,
so you can't necessarily fly directly into the UK. Sometimes
you have to go via you know, another country like
Germany and then come into the UK. If you flying cargo,
you have to have for a big dog, especially normally
you have to have a special design creates which or
ads cost on. If you want to fly with your dog,
you can try and match up the flight that your
dog is flying on so you're flying as a passenger
and your dog's fly underneath. But it doesn't always happen,
so sometimes your dog be are floated for whatever reason
and you're flying without your dog and your dog gets
left there.
Speaker 1: So you're giving a little bit of peace of mind
because if I'm taking my dog, I want my dog
where I have eyes and my dog exactly.
Speaker 4: I think it's peace of mind for owners. Obviously the
pets as well, because they're relaxed then they what they're doing,
they can see you. But like I said, you know
there's four million dogs that are flowing by cargo every year.
This isn't just just folks and an alternative option to
fly with them if it's you know, within their budget,
but internationally it is very much lightful like and the
beauty of flying with us as well is that with
cargo you probably have to leave your dog one or
two hours, probably three hours before the flight and then
the other side once they arrive in the UK or Europe,
then it could be two or three hours of clearing
the paperwork.
Speaker 1: You're asking them to hold their bladder for a long time.
Speaker 4: Sure, and you know it's just that time of being
away from your pet as well creates passenger anxiety as
well as pet so, but with us, you just need
to arrive one hour before your flight. There's no queues
or lines for security TSA. There's very relaxed. There's only
a handful of people that are flying these terminals. And
then again the other side, the clearance is normally done
on the aircraft and you get off from there, so
there's very much stress free.
Speaker 1: Is there a doggy loop on board?
Speaker 4: There isn't a dog e toilet, but we advise our
pups or our passengers to restrict their diets slightly before
they fly. We awfully equipped with puppy pads.
Speaker 1: After legencies, we're getting something that munch on. What about
the dogs? Do people just bring their own little treats
for the pets.
Speaker 4: We encourage them not to be fed on the on
the fly, okay, generally because some of the air pressure
and you know, bowel movements show.
Speaker 1: We say, you don't want to dog a fart at
what thirty thousand feet?
Speaker 4: Yeah, trust me, when the cabin door opens, there's definitely
a few of those, I'm sure, but but no. We
we feed our passengers, but we don't typically feed the pups.
People can bring on treats just if they need to,
but like I said, they're asleep most of the time.
Obviously they all keeping hydrated with water, but yeah, is
limited to what you'd normally do at home.
Speaker 1: So what's your game plan, Adam, What do you see
canine jets in two, three, four years from now? Because
you guys are starting off, you're filling the need. What's
your hopes and plans?
Speaker 4: So, I mean, we want to give people the opportunity
to fly their dog old cat, whether yeah, whether domestically
in the US, in UK and Europe everywhere. At the moment,
we are currently using private jets which have a price
tag to them, but I think the plan is to
be able to offer new routes connects multiple places together.
Eventually we'll look at using bigger aircraft, which ultimately will
help bring the price down enable more people to enter
this amazing opportunity. But yeah, for now, it's concentrating on
our key routes, which is coast to coasts and the
US flying internationally from New York to LA to Europe
and UK. We're looking at flying open our new routes
for Australia via Hawaii in Singapore and Asia. So the
majority of our passengers are flying to relocate. Okay, all right,
mainly for work similar retiring. But there's so much travel
around the world right now with people moving globally for
the jobs. So that is the majorites of our customers
right now. A small percentage of people are traveling for leisure,
they may have two homes, but the majority of people
are relocating and the average folk their work may have
been paying for the relocation. So it's just encouraging more
people like that to be able to travel and give
people more opportunity. Because if you've been offered a job
in London, for example, when you live in New York
or where they and you've met, I can't get over
there because I can't go for the opportunities I can't
leave my dog or don cargo. But now you have
an opportunity to fly with us and take the opportunity
and your life show.
Speaker 1: And that makes a good point. I mean, you don't
want them mind a boat forever to get there, right
and you don't want them in cargo. So it does
make sense if you do the map, it is something
that you're with the pet the whole time and wouldn't
you like to step off the plane in London and
say to your dog, look there's big Ben. Yeah, that's
kind of a nice thing, right.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And do you know what, We've met so many
people and that the beauty. I'm so lucky to start
this company and meet so many amazing people. Everyone's got
their own story, you know, we've met people that are
One of our first ever passengers actually was a couple
who had a dog and they had a heart problem
and there is only two doctors in the world that
could to perform this certain operation on the dock well Jasmine,
never forget forget the name, and yeah, they flew flew
over to London to have the operation and the dog.
And then we have military personnel that fly of us,
are relocating, their families are relocating. The dog is too
big to go on the military jet, so they use
us to relocate to Europe or they're flying back to
the US. You know, there's just so many amazing stories
and we're blessed to be able to offer this service
to people. And we are the world's first private jet
payer seat service for pets, so you know it's great.
Speaker 1: Now, do you have any animals please? Don't say geckos.
Speaker 4: Do you know what?
Speaker 3: I know?
Speaker 4: I wish we did. We have two young daughters and
they are on a huge puppy campaign right now.
Speaker 1: Good luck dead, I.
Speaker 4: Know, I know, but we have dogs in the family.
But currently we're so busy it would be unfair to
have one of ourselves because we're traveling all the time.
Speaker 1: What are you going to say to the company that
said you're fired, Well, we don't need you anymore, COVID
hit Without being snarky, what do you think they think
about what you're doing now?
Speaker 4: Well, it is unfortunate, really. I mean, my bus at
the time was keeping me off on purpose, which was
a little bit nasty to say the least, and it
was a job I loved. But I'm so glad that
happened in a way. So it's funny how things happen,
isn't it, And it.
Speaker 5: Is, you know.
Speaker 4: I don't know what they're I don't think they'll be
too bothered that I've left, but I'm so pleased now.
Whereas I wasn't in control of my future, now I'm
more in control in it and be able to help
so many people. That's what it's about for us and
we're very much hands on. We're a very personalized company.
We help people where we can.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so going to the dogs Adam Golder is
a good thing for you.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, and you bring it on because as
little more as a come.
Speaker 1: Hey everyone, we've been speaking with Adam Golder. He is
the founder of Canine Jets. You got to check it
out canine jets dot com. It's also on Instagram and Facebook.
I mean, he's starting to carve out an industry to
help pets who want to move with their people because
of jobs, military or they won the lottery and they
want the dog to go with him on the tour
of Big Ben in Parliament. So I also at this
time want to give a shout out to my producer,
Mark Winter. He is the executive producer of Pet Life Radio.
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