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looked like the motor home from Breaking Bad.

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this experience and we just parked and it was probably

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two o'clock in the morning and some very strange things.

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in the middle of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: I am immediately hit with this horrible smell that I've

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never smelt before.

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Speaker 2: I felt the presence of something just up the hill

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and the brush moving just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It was an.

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Speaker 2: Energy or a feeling that if I had not taken

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care of myself for that day, I might have crapped

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my pants.

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Speaker 1: That was the feeling that I got. It was a

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holy smoke.

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Speaker 2: It was an experience I've never had. There was something

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going on. I think that most of the stuff is bullshit,

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but that was real.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to welcome Joseph Granda to the show. Joseph

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is the mastermind behind the soon to be streaming film

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The Susquologist. You know, I'm sure you've been asked this

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question on time or two. How did this all come

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to be? What gave you the spark to create this film?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know interesting, I had been working with.

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and I really got to know Bigfoot community and it's

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just a great bunch of people that had a lot

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of different points of view on Bigfoot, and so I

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started really researching it. I had an idea, so I

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went out. I went out squatching with some different guys

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in Washington and here in Colorado, and I really felt.

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Speaker 1: That behind.

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Speaker 2: The Bigfoot community and why we go out looking for Bigfoot,

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I think that there was a bigger, more human story

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to it that was more personal to each person. And

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that's really really what I what was the genesis of

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this movie, because I think along with just squatching and

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looking for Bigfoot and evidence of things, I think that

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there's a.

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Speaker 1: There's something behind each person.

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Speaker 2: That's much more personal as to why they go out

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looking for Bigfoot. And that's really the core of what

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this movie's about, you know, trying to answer the question,

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you know, what are you really looking for? And how

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do you find what you're looking for? Just beyond whether

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whether Bigfoot is there or not right now?

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Speaker 3: Whenever you decided to move forward with this project, why

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did you decide to go this particular route of from

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the perspective of what I would believe to be a

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flesh and blood researcher.

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Speaker 2: Well, for two things, you know, I really got to

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know the Bigfoot camp of what you know, the the

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what they call the apers and the wu But and

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so what my goal was, because I played the lead

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character in it, also was I felt that, you know,

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I got to meet Jeff Meldrum and Cliff and a

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lot of those people in the in the process of

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Speaker 1: And I really felt.

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if you want, we're really grounded much more in the

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science of it. And so I felt that fit that

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character better. And then he's coupled with he's coupled with

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a young a young man who has a much more

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mystical or woo if you want, outlook on this creature

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or being. And I wanted to respectfully show both sides

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of the story. And for all my research, I feel

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like I did a pretty good job of just sort

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of laying up the facts of what each character in

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can't believe.

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a film before around this subject, where you really did

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different schools of thought, and I thought that was something

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kind of interesting that I hadn't seen before. Usually it's

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and blotter trying to go out and bag one to

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prove it to the world or whatever. But your character

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really wasn't like that. He seemed much more scientific based. Obviously,

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you know, there was some inspiration there, but it seemed

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more of like a personal journey for him that kind

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of unfolded throughout the movie. How much of yourself and

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what I know, and so, prior to all my research

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and understanding and learning about the different sasquatch camps is,

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to first be respectful of both camps. I wanted to

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along with some action and some drama, to have a

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lighthearted element to it, because a lot of the people

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that I met in the community were really just lighthearted,

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happy people having a good time.

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me because you know, my father left when I was

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ten years old. I never saw him again. And and

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that really I know from experience, because people have come

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up and talked to me after screening the film.

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Speaker 1: That really leaves a hole in a young man and

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then even in a grown.

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Speaker 2: Man such as myself, that leaves you sort of searching

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for different answers in life. And that's really sort of

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the foundation of the character that I play, although he

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at one point he really comes out and says, you know,

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what's happening, and there's some there's some dialogue in there

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that's right out.

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Speaker 1: Of my life.

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Speaker 2: So I think that, you know, I think there's an

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opportunity for us as people when we have painful events

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in our childhood to, as they say, you know, take

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lemons and make lemonade, which is really what I did

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Speaker 1: To give it some depth in surreality.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a there's a story that the kid

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tells in there about a Mickey Mouse hat at Disneyland

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when he's a kid, and that's that's just a fascial

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true story from my childhood I just put in there.

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surprised by the including of that particular personal angle to

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the story, the father son relationship, and it, you know,

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honestly hit home. Maybe that's why I found it so surprising.

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my great grandparents, and my great grandfather was very much

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a father figure in my life. But my biological father

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grandfather and being around a lot of you know, older

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guys that had that father type figure to them, you know,

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that personality and everything, and I think there might be

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a lot of that going on. I've always thought that

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there's a lot of social aspects to Bigfoot that oftentimes

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are understood by the people involved but overlooked by the

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people looking in from the outside.

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Speaker 1: No, I totally agree.

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Speaker 2: I went out as I was developing this character even

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after I sort of had this epiphany of what.

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Speaker 1: This could possibly be. I was out squatching in Washington

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with a I won't say his.

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as we spent the day and I got to know

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him and his whole story, because I was looking for

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characters to sort of base the character Martin Bootzer, the

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sesschologist in the movie, to base on. At the end

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of the day, I got to know him really well

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and I said to him and I said, do you

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ever think that what you're really doing out here is

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looking for your old man?

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Speaker 1: And he just stopped for a moment and he said, Wow,

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Speaker 4: I go, I go, No, that's good. I mean, I

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think it's a multiple, multiply purpose things. There are worse

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things in today's world that a grown man can be

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doing than hiking through the woods searching for something.

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Speaker 3: Were you behind the casting of Brandon Schwartz.

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Speaker 1: I was, man, I wasn't.

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how much of it was just his own personal acting

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chops or just the relationship with you, but the dynamic

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that you guys had and kind of watching that whole

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thing unfold was awesome. Not to take anything away from

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you by any means, but I'm just saying, like I

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I thought, he he did an amazing job at that role.

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any any other Everything that he did just heightened my work.

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here's a story, you know, because I operate from from

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my faith and that was a complete act of God.

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Speaker 1: So Brandon was in Florida at a at.

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next film. And Brandon said, oh, where is he? And

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they said, oh, he lives in Colorado. Well, brand Brandon

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lives thirty miles from me.

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Speaker 3: No way.

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Speaker 2: So I had been interviewing and talking to other actors

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Speaker 1: We got along really well. And then I auditioned him

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and ran a bunch of scenes and I said, hey, man,

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talented young man.

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Speaker 3: Whenever you're casting for something like that and you're pitching

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the idea of, you know, a Bigfoot movie, where was

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the barometer on everyone in terms of belief?

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting question. Well, a couple of things. I'll

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museum up here called the Sasquatch Outpost, which we actually

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his place, I said, and I actually.

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Speaker 1: Wrote a role for you in it.

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in the cowboy hat that has a brief exchange with me,

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but the woman who so I'm talking to him. I

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took him out to lunch, and I bet we have

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we have the property the dome that's in the movie,

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that's my dome.

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Speaker 2: And so I took Jim to lunch and we're talking

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and he said, he said, Hey, you know what, I've

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got a woman who works for me at the front

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desk and she's an actress.

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Speaker 1: And I said, me, Meeter.

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Bigfoot called The Cryptid Catcher.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So it was really just another blessing that came

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in my previous film, The Healing Garden, and then I

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just I just found him.

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Speaker 1: Here and there.

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Speaker 2: Then there's a guy who the guy you'll see when

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you all watch the movie there's a vent there's one

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scene with the ventriloquist in it. And uh, and I

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knew him very well, and he had a he had

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a small part in my first film. A great guy.

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Sadly he has since passed away. Man, but a great

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guy and a very funny, funny guy.

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Speaker 3: I even thought that that was fitting.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm not going to point out any particular Yeah,

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we don't want to spoil it. Yeah, but whenever you're

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involved in this subject, you know, and you're meeting different

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people into it. Every now and then you do run

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across someone where you just have to kind of take

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a step back and just like what is this person?

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What is this person? What are they doing? And he

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that character fit that role very well for me. I

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thought that was pretty funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was one of those moments where I'm like, Okay,

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this is either going to really work or people are

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going to check out at this point. But because of

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the talent of Kevin and his ventriloquism, it really it

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really worked in I liked that, you know, I made

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it so that, like you'll see, the dummy wanted to

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be there, but he didn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I thought that was funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it was it was it worked out gratefully.

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Speaker 3: So would you say that there was something in you

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that wanted to make a film like this and you

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just chose Bigfoot as the vessel or was it the

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other way around, where you wanted to make a Bigfoot

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film and then chose the personal story of the father

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and the son and all that is the way to

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take it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it all came about from working with

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Tony Merkle, and I produced some movies for him, Shape

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of Shadows and Sasquatching the Missing Van was where I

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really got in contact with a lot of Bigfoot people,

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you know, I met I met John and Sarah Brown,

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I met Wes Germer and people like that, and especially

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to the stories. It was sort of the very percolation

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of the gestation of the whole story, which is where

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I got the idea.

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Speaker 1: And then I mean grateful thankfully Caleb M.

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Speaker 2: Moore who is the execut executive producer of of of

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this film and Sasquatching the Missing Man, and then another

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one that we did that's that's still in the works.

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it was a dog man thing, but it turned into

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something totally different, so that's still being worked through at

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post production. But that's that's really how I came into

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the Bigfoot world. I mean, you know, I've been to

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the Bigfoot Museum here before and had a passing interest

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in it, but until I got to know the sas

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Switch community, I didn't really realize how how deep it

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was and how diverse it was in their thought and

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their research and ideas.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like Wow, this is really a gold mine.

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And I didn't want to do I didn't want to

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do just another horror movie that I think.

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Speaker 2: That's for me, that that's too simplistic.

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Speaker 1: What I what I really wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: You know, my whole career started out as an actor

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on Broadway and then in film, and you know, my

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big break was in the early nineties in a movie

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called Amongst Friends, And so I did all these movies

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in the nineties, and what I really my old overall

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goal for the look of the movie was to have

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it feel like one of those care free independent films

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from the nineteen nineties.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like I really did that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you nailed it. That's exactly what it

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made me think of whenever I was watching it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and people have come up to me and said,

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they said, if Napoleon.

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Speaker 2: Dynamite and Wes Gurmer, if Napoleon Dynamite and Wes Anderson

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had a baby, it would be this movie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I can totally see that. So, after

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spending time with Bigfooters and kind of immersing yourself into this,

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what is it about this particular subject that makes it different?

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I mean, there's this mythological creature that supposedly lives out

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in the forest. Why do we care? Why do we

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go looking for it? What makes it a subject that

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people get so passionate about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question, and you know, I've thought

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a lot about that, and here's my take on it.

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Speaker 1: We we there's two things.

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Speaker 2: We live in the world where we can have just

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about everything answered in the palm of our hand by

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getting under the internet, right, it can give you answers

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and can give you fake answers or you know, factual

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or not factual.

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Speaker 3: It will give you information, for sure, It'll.

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Speaker 1: Give you It'll give you information. Yes.

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Speaker 2: But the thing that I think about Bigfoot, that I

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think people admire and myself, is that this is a

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this is a creature that is able to be both

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famous and anonymous in a world that is just run rampant.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's he's out there or not out there.

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Everybody is.

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Speaker 2: There's nobody on the planet hasn't hurt a big Foot.

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So he's this famous character that also lets him be anonymous.

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Because in my time working in Hollywood, I met lots

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of very famous people, and I also met very famous

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people that wish they weren't famous. You know, it's fame

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is a very very dangerous thing, especially in today's world

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with the access of social media.

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Speaker 1: I would wish it on my enemy.

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Speaker 3: No, it's very difficult to remain anonymous in today's society

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and increased fame at the same time. Yeah, sasquatch as

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a subject, I just find it really interesting because while

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you might see, you know, certain things about the locknest

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monster or whatever pop up in pop culture every now

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and then, or something bigfoots everywhere, it's completely commercialized, marketed.

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You know, people make tons of merch including a character

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in your movie. But then you have this whole research

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side where people take it so seriously and devote all

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of their free time and resources into it. And it's

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just a really interesting dynamic. I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you know, one thing is when you all, when

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you all watch the movie on that note of merchandise,

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and I did this, there's a couple easter eggs in

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this movie that you'll have to look closely upon. I

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don't want to I don't want to give any spoiler alerts,

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but I'll tell you one thing. There is a bigfoot

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in every scene of this movie. You'll have to look,

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but the image of Bigfoot is in every scene of

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this movie, which I wanted to add a layer to

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that also because it's such a Bigfoot is such a

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big part of our culture in a sort of and

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you'll notice if you look at all a swag, stickers

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and hats, and Bigfoot is almost eighty five ninety percent

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of the time depicted as something that's joyful or interesting.

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It's never like you know, there's plenty of horror movies

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about Bigfoot, but I don't I don't ever really get

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the sense that that that it is a sort of

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benevolent creature. I mean, there's a there's a funny line

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about unfortunately Bigfoot never killed anybody in the movie, you know,

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because imagine the data that would bring.

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Speaker 1: So But yeah, I did that as to sort of

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an homage to the.

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Speaker 2: Listen the capitalism of Bigfoot. Why not people make money

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off of worse things in this world.

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Speaker 3: The film starts off with the character going over his

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research area collecting evidence, but he has an interesting trait

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of whenever it comes to the evidence, he's not running

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back to the public to show it off or anything

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like that. Right, how important do you think evidence is

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Whenever it comes to bigfoot stuff in terms of I

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guess belief. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think that.

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Speaker 2: The evidence is really important, and I think that the

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evidence not just by that squatch or who finds the evidence.

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But I think what's important that I don't see a

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lot of is that then letting that evidence be battle

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tested by other other researchers. And there's a big difference

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between an actual, a real researcher and somebody who is

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a weekend warrior looking for bigfoot not to be smirched them.

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But I think what would be great is if the

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Bigfoot communit already had and maybe they do some sort

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of centralized place where people can share evidence. And then

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you know, what's the word I'm looking for, You know,

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when when they do research in in science and and

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like medicine and stuff, peer reviewed. That's the word I'm

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looking for, peer reviewed. And I think that sometimes I

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think swatchers want to hold it really close to their

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to their vests and say I found this, this is mine.

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But I think for a longer goal of finding out

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what and if if that were more peer reviewed in

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a more.

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Speaker 1: Trustful manner.

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Speaker 2: And there's been some great you know hair hair found

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and I just read an article about.

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Speaker 1: The FBI had tested some squatch air from years ago.

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Speaker 2: And I think I think that would be and on

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the same and on the same vein the the more

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mystical elements, in the spiritual elements of bigfoot ways to

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sort of test those would be interesting.

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Speaker 3: Also, it's a very personal thing, it seems like, from

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individual to individual in terms of schools of thought and

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what they're actually looking for whenever it comes to this subject.

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And I have absolutely met people who I one believe

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they'll tell you this if they had proof, if they

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had a vial of bigfoot blood, they wouldn't share it

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with anyone. They would never tell anyone.

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Speaker 1: That's unfortunate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's extremely unfortunate. But there's always rumors of you know,

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amazing video or photos that exist, but they don't want

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to show anybody because they don't want the attention and

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they don't want to put the sasquatch in danger in

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all these things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I have found in all my research.

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Speaker 2: Of the subject that the video footage is the least convincing,

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yeah of evidence, you know, especially in today's world where

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with AI and special effects and you know, which is

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one of the reasons why the sasquatch is very elusive

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in this movie. And the reason I did that is

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because I felt like the sound of sasquatch to stimulate

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the viewer. Everybody has their own ideas and image of

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what they think sasquatch looks like, and so I wanted

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the viewer to have that experience, to hear it and

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then let the images inside themselves project onto what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Well, I thought that was a great line that you

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had in the film, where you know, Marty asked, what

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does it look like? And he says, it looks exactly

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like what you think it looks like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which I think is important for it because this

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a lot of times, this is a very personal subject

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for people. To let them have that other than say

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here's what I think it looks like.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any thoughts on the recent Patterson film controversy?

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Speaker 1: You know, my.

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Speaker 2: Opinion on that is strictly from somebody who has been

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in the movie business most of.

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Speaker 1: His adult life, and it's two things.

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Speaker 2: It's that I don't know the filmmakers, I haven't seen

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the film, but that they kept it to such a

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small little screening and then sort of disappeared when some

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controversy broke out. Makes me feel as if it leans

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towards they don't really have anything to show that it's

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a hoax. That's what I think, and I think that

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time will tell, because if they really have this as

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a hoax, it would be one of the biggest stories.

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I mean that footage of Patty and Patty plays.

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Speaker 1: A role in the Sasquologist, you know that. I don't

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want to get that away.

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Speaker 2: If Patty is the second most seen footage behind this

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a Bruner film of John F.

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Speaker 1: Kennedy. So if.

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Speaker 2: A filmmaker had unequivocal evidence that that footage was fake,

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I would be it would be out everywhere because there's

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big money to be made on that. I don't think

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they really have the smoking gun or the fake footprint

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or whatever.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think they do, because that's not how

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you would market a movie because movies are very expensive

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and your goal is to make your money back at

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the least.

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Speaker 3: I've remained quiet on the topic. I'm still holding out

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for I want to see the film for myself. I

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want to see the documentary for myself before I really

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00:28:16,519 --> 00:28:19,559
put an official opinion out there or anything. But I

482
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:24,359
completely agree with what you're saying. It doesn't make a

483
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,440
lot of sense to me to go about it the

484
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,559
way they went about it.

485
00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:34,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got it in one festival and causing up

486
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,599
roar and then sort of went away. And now, listen,

487
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,680
they might have gone away because they're working on a

488
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,400
big distribution deal, Yeah, with Miramax or parent or who

489
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,960
knows which.

490
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,279
Speaker 1: If that's the case, then it's smart to just shut up.

491
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:49,160
But I don't know.

492
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: The whole story seemed a little efficient to me, like, oh,

493
00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:56,799
some footage was found in a in a I don't know,

494
00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:00,599
by somebody's son, and it just seemed very blair, which to.

495
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:06,039
Speaker 3: Me, Well, I mean with your own research that you did,

496
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,359
meeting people and going out with them and everything, where

497
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:14,319
you got to know the Bigfoot community. From my understanding,

498
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,759
they sort of did the same thing, you know, they

499
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:22,400
got to know the Bigfoot world and everything. And once

500
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:27,480
you came to the realization as a filmmaker if you

501
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:29,880
did have this in your possession, and how big of

502
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,920
a deal that would be and what sort of impact

503
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:39,240
it would have on numerous lives involved. Personally, for me,

504
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,119
it doesn't matter if it's fake or not. But I'm saying,

505
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,000
you know, Bob Gimlin and others, it's a big deal,

506
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,960
right right. I mean, would you even think that you

507
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,039
should be someone to put that out there? Wouldn't you

508
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:56,400
hand that evidence over to the Bigfoot world and be like, hey,

509
00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:59,000
here's what we found. I'm doing a documentary about it.

510
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. If I had found that footage, the first thing

511
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:08,960
I would do is get a lawyer, because for two things,

512
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,319
for being sued for slander.

513
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,279
Speaker 1: But also it would be worth a tremendous amount of money.

514
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: And secondly, I would hold a press conference at maybe

515
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:21,359
at one of the big Bigfoot festivals, and.

516
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:23,799
Speaker 1: Say, listen, I'm here to help. Here's what it really is.

517
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:28,079
Speaker 2: Here's what at least, here's what this episode of Bigfoot

518
00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:31,279
really is. All the rest I don't know because I interviewed,

519
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,200
I interviewed people that I interviewed.

520
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: This neurosurgeon who I can't say his name, who was who.

521
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: Has nothing to gain to tell me the story of

522
00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:48,480
him and his friend hiking twenty miles into Oregon on

523
00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:51,039
a hike that they do, you know, a camping trip,

524
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:53,480
and finding footprints.

525
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: Now, nobody goes twenty miles in to.

526
00:30:57,079 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: Punk a neurosurgeon and there's nothing and there's nothing in

527
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,160
it for a neurosurgeon to tell me this story. And

528
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,039
he was dead serious and he you know, he's like,

529
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,440
that's what it was. Here's a picture of it.

530
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:13,279
Speaker 1: You can't have it.

531
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:19,279
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, post film, it's you know, going to be

532
00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:25,759
released very soon after this comes up. Where are you at?

533
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:29,759
I mean, you've gone out, you've met the people, you've

534
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:34,240
done the thing yourself. Where do you stand now on

535
00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:36,119
your own personal level of belief?

536
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

537
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: And I and I and and this might be unpopular

538
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,720
for some people, but an honest questions, there's an honest answer.

539
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:51,480
So one, let me just go back briefly to working

540
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:56,880
with with Tony you know, great guy, he's got a

541
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:02,160
fantastic podcast, The Confessionals, and Caleb Moore and my producer,

542
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:07,200
when we produced this little documentary years ago called Sasquatch

543
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:09,680
The Missy Man. It basically tells the origin story of

544
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,960
Wes Gurmer and his first squatch sighting, and so we

545
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:17,160
went to the area where Wes had his experience, we

546
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,359
interviewed some other people and in that film also we

547
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:24,880
interview John and Sarah Brown, and Sarah Brown said something

548
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,720
really interesting to me. She said, you got to stop

549
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:30,599
going out looking for sasquatch. You got to go to

550
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,720
the places where he's been reported and make some noise

551
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:39,079
and then just camp. And because her theory was they're

552
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:42,519
just as interested in you as you are them, but

553
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,880
she felt the elusiveness of them was because because you're

554
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,759
coming at them. And I've heard that out here too,

555
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:53,359
up in Bailey, where people go out camping and they

556
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:57,079
have more of these experiences. So what we did was

557
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,519
the area where had this experience. We were living in

558
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:05,920
this for a week with like five guys. We were

559
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,039
living in this big mobile home which actually looked like

560
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:10,279
the motor home from Breaking Bad.

561
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:14,079
Speaker 3: Oh nice, not suspicious at all.

562
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,759
Speaker 1: No, right, there was no cooking going on in there though.

563
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: So we go to the area it's called Sunset Falls

564
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:26,759
in Oregon where Westbermmer had this experience and we just

565
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:30,039
parked and it was probably two o'clock in the morning,

566
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:33,799
and some very strange things we started. And if you

567
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,359
if you watched that film, or if you watch even

568
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,880
the trailer, I'm in it briefly as the producer because

569
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,680
they say to these guys, this is this is presasqualogist.

570
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:45,839
This is as I'm on this bigfoot journey.

571
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,319
Speaker 1: I said, listen to you guys.

572
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: So something scratched and knocked on the door of the

573
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,319
motor home at two in the morning in the middle

574
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:55,640
of nowhere, and I said, listen to you guys. I

575
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,680
think that most of this stuff is bullshit, but that

576
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,200
was real. So we should gear up the cameras and

577
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,079
go see what's out there. So I don't know why,

578
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,440
but I was the first one to step out of

579
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:13,840
the motor home, which really is not the job of

580
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:20,159
the producer. I step out onto the first step.

581
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,679
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, I am immediately hit with

582
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,639
this horrible smell that I've never smelled before. It smelt musky,

583
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,480
it felt wet, it was raining. And what I didn't

584
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,639
do was say anything.

585
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: I stepped out, and then I watched the rest of

586
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,719
the guys come out and they.

587
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:40,519
Speaker 1: All noticed it.

588
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: And these guys were from Texas, Ohio, Tennessee, and they

589
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,519
are all hunters, and.

590
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,679
Speaker 1: They go, that is no smell I've ever smelled before.

591
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,559
Speaker 2: So we stood there and I'll I'll just tell you

592
00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,880
my experience. I stood there next one of the camera

593
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,000
guys and.

594
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: I had the first you know who say, oh, I

595
00:35:10,039 --> 00:35:11,280
almost craped my pants.

596
00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:16,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there was a moment where there was I

597
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:20,079
felt the presence of something just up the hill and

598
00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:21,639
the brush moving just a little bit.

599
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: But it was a it was.

600
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,559
Speaker 2: An energy or a feeling that if I had not

601
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:30,199
taken care of myself for that day, I might have

602
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,400
crapped my pants, because that was the feeling that I got.

603
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,760
It was a Holy Smokes like it was. It was

604
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,159
an experience I'd never had, and everybody else sort of

605
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:41,960
felt the vibe too.

606
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:48,039
Speaker 1: So there was something going on, which also leads to the.

607
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:53,639
Speaker 2: Idea of of is it something interdimensional, is it something spiritual?

608
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: Is it just one of the fallen angels? I don't know.

609
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,599
Speaker 5: So So with that, to answer your question of what's

610
00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:05,000
my thought on all of it and all my research,

611
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,800
I feel that no offense to anybody out there, eighty percent

612
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,880
of it is bullshit.

613
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: People love to tell stories. Stories are great.

614
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: It's how we got where we are talking about legends.

615
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: I think.

616
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: Another maybe fifteen percent is sometimes what's called a framing

617
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,559
psychosist where you set out to look for something and

618
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:44,039
then the mind projection onto the field that you're looking

619
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:47,159
at some might you know, that's within quantum physics and

620
00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:51,440
things like that, But I also think that there are

621
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:57,039
ten There's ten percent which is completely unexplained in both

622
00:36:57,079 --> 00:36:59,800
of the science and the wu of this of this thing.

623
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: So I think if if the community is.

624
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: Able to focus more on that ten percent, I think

625
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,280
the great the outcomes of science or spirits are going

626
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:13,800
to be greater.

627
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: That's that's where I've kind of rest in the most

628
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,719
honest answer.

629
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:20,039
Speaker 3: Well, that was going to be my next question is

630
00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:25,000
which school of thought do you kind of lean towards.

631
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:31,000
And I mean from your description that experience sounds kind

632
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:34,199
of wu It has a little bit of a non

633
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,639
flesh and blood element to it.

634
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, things like footprints that just end in

635
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,440
the middle of nowhere and stuff like that.

636
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: Now, I don't think they're flying UFOs from the depths

637
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:51,840
of the ocean, for sure. I don't think they're flying

638
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:52,679
at all.

639
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: So, you know, my background as a Christian, and one

640
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,800
of the things that often gets lost in in in

641
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,679
Biblical terms or the world, is that there's a lot

642
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:07,239
of weird stuff in the Bible. Now, I'm not saying

643
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,679
that Esau was a big butt just because he was born, Harry.

644
00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:11,000
I mean, I've heard that.

645
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: I've heard that theory too.

646
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: But if you go back to the book of Enoch

647
00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:20,639
and the Watchers and the Nephelim, and you know, giving

648
00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:25,840
this sort of abilities to move in and out of things,

649
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,760
if I had to just answer, I would say that

650
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:36,000
it's a trickster demon that's able to materialize into physical

651
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:41,840
form and then and then leave into some other sort

652
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,119
of realm.

653
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: You know.

654
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,159
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a you know, portals play

655
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:49,440
a play a role in the Sasquologist too.

656
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,119
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that. But but I because.

657
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:59,079
Speaker 2: Of my experience and my personal background in theology and

658
00:38:59,159 --> 00:39:04,679
my faith, is what I lean towards. I just I feel, ultimately,

659
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,639
if it was just flesh and blood, that there might

660
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:10,119
be a dead one somewhere.

661
00:39:10,199 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: I know. I know there's people can dispute that and why,

662
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:20,559
but that's kind of where I sit. You know. Another

663
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:23,199
thing too, that if anybody ever that wants to read

664
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:23,559
what I.

665
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: Consider to be the best big Foot book, it's actually

666
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,679
the guys could become a friend of mine because in

667
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,239
my research, the name is John Zada, and he wrote

668
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,559
in the Valley of the Noble Beyond. And he's a real,

669
00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:40,280
real journalist. This guy's a war correspondent. And he got

670
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,159
an assignment out of Canada to go and hang out

671
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:48,239
with some Indian tribes who have this all these great

672
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,519
legends of Sasquatch. And he went out there a complete

673
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,440
skeptic and did some real research, some real journalistic research,

674
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,719
investigative journalism, and he came out of there a complete believer.

675
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,760
I mean, these people would tell stories about their great

676
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:13,320
great grandfathers and the Sasquatch coming down and engaging in

677
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,320
meals with them. And these are also very spiritual people too,

678
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,119
So yeah, more shall be revealed.

679
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:21,519
Speaker 1: I guess.

680
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 3: There's another interesting line that you put in the film

681
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:33,639
again between yourself and Marty, where Marty's kind of revealed

682
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:37,639
that he's a Christian and your character says, you know, well,

683
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,119
how can you believe in God and believe in Bigfoot?

684
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:48,280
As a Christian who firmly believes in Bigfoot? I understand

685
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:56,840
that sort of juxtaposition. And one of the first things

686
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,280
that kind of came to mind whenever it came came

687
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,960
to this subject in terms of, well, how has this

688
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,400
thing not been proven? You know, what's going on?

689
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:09,679
Speaker 1: Here.

690
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,079
Speaker 3: If there is a higher power at work, what if

691
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:18,039
we're just not supposed to What if it's just that simple,

692
00:41:18,119 --> 00:41:21,719
like we're just not supposed to ever prove that it's

693
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,400
out there. Maybe there's other things that we're not supposed

694
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:30,159
to prove. But if that's the case, or even if

695
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:33,079
that's not the case for whatever reason, but if there

696
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,800
is that paranormal aspect to them, the WU side is right,

697
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:40,679
where does that leave us? What do we do? All

698
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,639
these people are going out there looking for this thing?

699
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:47,079
I mean, what can we even do at that point?

700
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think aside from doing some aside

701
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:58,360
from doing occult things which I would never get involved in.

702
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:01,280
Maybe it's maybe sure Bruin has it right of just

703
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,960
going out there making noise and let and let this

704
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,800
this thing or spirit come towards you.

705
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: You know, whether it's an a uh bipedal ape or

706
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,679
a or a or a demon trickster in the wood.

707
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,159
I mean, if it's a demon trickster and.

708
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: He can he can get people to go out squatch

709
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,880
it on Sunday instead of church, then that's a win

710
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:22,679
for him, right.

711
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you should be trying to uh

712
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,480
antagonize that personally, I don't think you should be going

713
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:34,199
out in the woods trying to have a siding of that.

714
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,079
Speaker 1: No, I don't recommend a Wiji board in the woods

715
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:37,400
at all.

716
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:37,519
Speaker 2: No.

717
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so is there more Bigfoot for you in the future.

718
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Speaker 2: You know what's funny is that you asked that, and

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I'll say, I'll say something else. If this movie's a hit,

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I already have a sequel planned.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, all, here's all.

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Speaker 2: I'll say to the audience, or when you watch the movie.

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If there's a sequel, it will take place in Ohio.

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Speaker 3: Great answer.

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Speaker 1: Now, I know you got that because you saw the movie.

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Speaker 3: So when does this come out? Where can people see it?

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All that good information?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's going to start streaming and our good

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friends at Merkelefilms dot Com on April twenty eighth, so

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it'll just be Merkelefilms dot Com. That's Tony's media company.

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And then after it's sort of here's the other thing.

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Here's why it's there is I really wanted to create

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a relationship with the Bigfoot community and say I made

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this for you.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a squatcher. I learned all about you.

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Speaker 2: I hope it did you right, and I want to

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I want to push it at you first. It's for

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you first, and then from there it'll go out to

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you know, Amazon, Apple and TV and all those other places.

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But I really wanted to sort of roll it out

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because you know, all of.

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Speaker 1: Last year I spent touring the country.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: It showed at six different festivals.

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Speaker 2: It won it won Best Picture at the Winter Park Festival,

746
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it won Best Film overall at the Midwest Weird Fest

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in Wisconsin.

748
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Speaker 1: It won Best Comedy in South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: And then I also toured around too and showed it

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at three different bigfood festivals around the country, and people

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really loved it there.

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Speaker 1: I had a great response.

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Speaker 2: And you know, along with that, there's a lot of

754
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people that worked really hard on this on this movie.

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You know, Wardheini was my cinematographer, Joe Stalford, who was

756
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also a second camera and editor and added some of

757
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his music. There's a great fantastic band call.

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Speaker 1: It's actually oddly enough.

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Speaker 2: It's a father and son band out of Michigan called

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Streaking in Tongues and a lot of their music is

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throughout the throughout the film, and they were gracious enough

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to let me use their movie at a real discounted price,

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so I hope people will check them out also. And

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you know, ultimately, without the backing and support of my

765
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producing partner Caleb and Moore, none of this would have

766
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been possible. So you know, along with the support from

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from Tony and his and his group and Dean Hugart,

768
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who did the sound sound is very important. It came

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out fantastic, and all the other actors, Brandon, Elijah, and

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and there's a whole whole and then and then and

771
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then Kevin Claytonman, who we don't really want to talk

772
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about because we don't again want to give away anything

773
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about the movie, is a character in the movie that

774
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you'll notice. Kevin Claytman is a very funny stand up

775
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comic that actually I cast right here out of out

776
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of Denver. And my wife is in the movie briefly,

777
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who was very helpful with the rounding.

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Speaker 1: Up food for the crew. She's one of them. She's

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the first woman who comes running through the scene screaming,

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especially the trailer, and then I put my daughter in

781
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the movie.

782
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Speaker 2: She's the young girl who works around the counter at

783
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the Bigfoot Museum also comes in and rolls her eyes

784
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at me, so not much of an acting not much

785
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of an acting stretch.

786
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Speaker 1: I told her, I said, hey, guess what, you're not

787
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going to school today. She's like, how come I go?

788
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Speaker 2: Cause you're gonna see me five hundred bucks.

789
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Speaker 3: Yeah, not many notes for her. I'm sure, no, No.

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Speaker 1: She's a great kid. So yeah. So April twenty eight,

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Merkelefilms dot com. I hope you'll all check it out,

792
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and I hope that I did. Right of the Bigfoot.

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Speaker 3: Community, well, congratulations on the accolades first off. A secondly,

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as someone from the Bigfoot community previously before podcasting, I

795
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think he did a fantastic job. I thoroughly enjoyed it

796
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and I absolutely give it my recommendation for people to

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go check it out. Starting April twenty eighth at merkelefilms

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dot com. There will be a link in the description

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of this app episode easy to find go check it out.

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The Sasquologist Joseph Granda, thanks for joining me, man. I've

801
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,599
enjoyed it. I'm glad I got to talk to you.

802
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I hope we have a future conversations, and I hope

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the film does well so we can see that sequel.

804
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and if I find a Bigfoot. You'll be the

805
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first one I know.

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Speaker 3: If you've had an encounter with the fabled Sasquatch and

807
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,360
you'd like to share your story on the podcast, email

808
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,039
me at Bigfoot Crossroads at gmail dot com. Check out

809
00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:32,440
the website Bigfootcrossroads dot com. You can find links to

810
00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:36,559
social media, past episodes, merchandise, everything you need all in

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one place. And until next time, remember there's something in

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the worlds