Speaker 1: I Ben's old Brian Nick Ferguson programming Note, Nick and
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Speaker 1: take it over for Kai Sports, Dave, Ryan gonna be
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have you tomorrow right. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: it's going to be a fun Field Friday.
Speaker 3: You're just really gutting for that literation thing. What are
Speaker 3: you talking about?
Speaker 4: The off air, the break? Yeah, fun Field Friday.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, you know, it's it's a Friday. We
Speaker 3: compose the moan about it Monday on here, and nobody
Speaker 3: wanted to do it because it's moan about it Monday.
Speaker 3: I mean, we got enough to complain about on Monday.
Speaker 4: I don't need to get work on a Monday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to bring in a positivity such a
Speaker 1: difficult shot.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean for you, Ben, Yes, maybe moan about
Speaker 2: it Monday. For me. No, it's a fun field Friday, Monday,
Speaker 2: Tuesday WEDNS.
Speaker 3: Fun Field Friday Fiesta. Yes, I'm just saying meaningful Monday.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: guys saw this story or not. It broke before I
Speaker 1: went to air earlier about about three o'clock this afternoon.
Speaker 1: But uh, Texas wide receiver current NFL draft prospect, as
Speaker 1: A bond has turned himself into you first go Texas
Speaker 1: police this morning for a matter related to an outstanding
Speaker 1: warrant for sexual assault.
Speaker 3: Uh, he did post bond was subsequently released.
Speaker 1: So in other words, uh, a bond was put in
Speaker 1: bonds until he posted bond to remove bond from bonds.
Speaker 4: I mean, you just I've been sitting on that for hours.
Speaker 4: I was like, Dave Logano, kill me if I do this.
Speaker 2: You just did all of that the story about bond
Speaker 2: just to kind of go through this bond type.
Speaker 1: Bond in a multiple ways in a sense, you know,
Speaker 1: the one that you can use the word buffalo in
Speaker 1: a sentence like almost that was like eight nine times,
Speaker 1: just the word repeating because it and it will be
Speaker 1: a complete sentence. It is the one word you can
Speaker 1: use to make a complete sentence. Buffalo, bufflo, Buffalo, buffalo, buffalo, buffalo.
Speaker 1: You can look this up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nonsensical.
Speaker 1: No, it has so many different meanings like that that
Speaker 1: that that's the thing.
Speaker 3: There's so many different meanings to that word.
Speaker 1: Yes, I promise you grat research.
Speaker 3: No, buffalo beals the.
Speaker 1: City of Buffalo to buffalo, someone, what is that?
Speaker 4: Hold on?
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna pull this upside explain this all right?
Speaker 1: Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo is a
Speaker 1: grammatically correct sentence.
Speaker 3: By what English teacher?
Speaker 1: By the English teacher, because the word buffalo is an
Speaker 1: attributive noun to a further specific place, like the city
Speaker 1: of Buffalo. It is a verb to buffalo, which means
Speaker 1: to bully or harass or intimidate somebody, or.
Speaker 4: A noun to refer to the animal.
Speaker 1: The plural is also a buffalo, so a semantically equivalent
Speaker 1: form preserving that would be Buffalonian bison, whom other Buffaloian
Speaker 1: bison bully only also bully Buffaloian bison.
Speaker 2: So if you just but anyways, that sounds like a
Speaker 2: bunch of buffalo to me, a bunch of buffalo champions.
Speaker 2: I've never heard someone say, you know what, I would
Speaker 2: buy the buffalo you that's.
Speaker 4: An archaic term. You don't use it anymore.
Speaker 1: We also don't really use perchance much anymore. But those
Speaker 1: are there are realistic terms.
Speaker 4: In that hat. Nick, might you know what, well, well.
Speaker 3: Done, well done, Yes, yes, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: The ISA bond thing though, yeah, that might damage the
Speaker 1: draft stock a little bit. I don't have all the
Speaker 1: information on when allegedly the warrant was issued, any of
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But Isaiabon did turn himself in
Speaker 1: this morning on an outstanding warrant related to sexual assault.
Speaker 2: Well, we have to make sure and like any of
Speaker 2: these cases, that the do process work, it steff out
Speaker 2: before anyone starts yards to I guess convict people in
Speaker 2: the court of popular opinion.
Speaker 3: That's all I'll say.
Speaker 4: Right. Other things that you see, the Tyreek kill story,
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 5: Just gonna ask you about that if you had any
Speaker 5: infra information on.
Speaker 3: That, Well, that's not surprising though I do on that one.
Speaker 2: It was like, are you surprised whether it happened or
Speaker 2: any allegations? No, mean, because it just seemed like he's
Speaker 2: been a cesspool for problem since entering the.
Speaker 4: League, well before he entered the league.
Speaker 1: That's what tanker his draft stock in the first place,
Speaker 1: because he pushed his girlfriend down, a pregnant girlfriend down
Speaker 1: a flight of stairs.
Speaker 3: So so what new news you can add two of this?
Speaker 1: Well, with the Tyreek Kill thing, I can tell you. Basically,
Speaker 1: his mother in law and wife. They were in their
Speaker 1: high rise condo. There was an argument that happened, and
Speaker 1: he picked up a laptop and threw it and it
Speaker 1: hit the floor and broke, and then picked up the
Speaker 1: child and walked out to the balcony. And at that
Speaker 1: point his mother in law, his wife's mother called police
Speaker 1: and said that there was and he was.
Speaker 4: They were both yelling and arguing and all that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff. There was an altercation.
Speaker 1: There was no physical assault, although when they arrived on
Speaker 1: the scene, officers noted a bruise on her left forearm.
Speaker 1: They she attributed that to just being clumsy. I'm doing
Speaker 1: air quotes in the studio right now, and they so
Speaker 1: they didn't charge anybody with anything but that that is
Speaker 1: what happened.
Speaker 4: The dolphins, are you just like done?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna tell you, I'd heard a rumor a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, a couple of weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: it's funny because this is all going to tie back
Speaker 1: together with the Isaiah bo I'm thinking of a second.
Speaker 1: I'd heard a rumor a couple of weeks ago. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins have been secretly scouting wide receivers and that Bond's
Speaker 1: teammate Matthew Golden might be somebody that Miami might look
Speaker 1: at there with their first round draft pick. If you
Speaker 1: look at the betting ads of this, I'm not looking
Speaker 1: at them now, but as of this morning, the Dolphins
Speaker 1: to draft a wide receiver in the first round is
Speaker 1: plus two thousands.
Speaker 4: So I took out a little ticket on that just
Speaker 4: to just to take one, just just a sprinkle it.
Speaker 4: Sprinkle it with a little bit of a kishe just
Speaker 4: see what happened?
Speaker 3: Grant's over there laughing behind the glass.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's been any other player in
Speaker 2: the past ten years who have really damaged his personality
Speaker 2: and his persona, his brand both on and off the field,
Speaker 2: like a Tyreek Hill. I mean, I could think about
Speaker 2: maybe Obj, but not to this magnitude. I mean OBJ
Speaker 2: has done it to a point where, I mean he's
Speaker 2: whined and complaining too much, and a lot of NFL
Speaker 2: people don't really like that. But to find yourself in
Speaker 2: these types of situations, and I don't want to say constantly,
Speaker 2: because like you talked about, you had the domestic situation
Speaker 2: before entering the league. Now you have this particular one
Speaker 2: that's taking place. You had the one with the running
Speaker 2: with the police officers right before the.
Speaker 3: Game down in Miami.
Speaker 2: So I mean, if you're a team and you're Mike McDaniels,
Speaker 2: you're trying to or you want to remove yourself or
Speaker 2: remove Tyreek Hill from the organization. Then we know about
Speaker 2: what he said after they lost the playoff game, and
Speaker 2: then you get these kind of cryptic tweets.
Speaker 3: So I mean, oh, look, say what you want to say.
Speaker 3: Even Tara always wasn't this bad.
Speaker 4: Kara always was a diva, but this wasn't.
Speaker 3: I mean, he wasn't this bad.
Speaker 1: He wasn't like choking his pregnant girlfriend, which he'll admitted
Speaker 1: to doing back in twenty fifteen before the NFL Draft.
Speaker 5: Do you guys ever have like when you're growing up,
Speaker 5: your parents would be like, you don't need to hang
Speaker 5: around that kid because just trouble follows him.
Speaker 4: Yea, his name, but it feels like with Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3: Yeah, his name was Jamal in my neighborhood, Austin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jamal Bench that allbright.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: There's two guys I'm not gonna mention their names, but
Speaker 1: there are two guys that you know, my parents generally
Speaker 1: did not want me hanging around with for those types
Speaker 1: of reasons. Trouble just all. They just always seem to
Speaker 1: be in trouble. One of those guys wound up going
Speaker 1: to prison. He just got out three years ago. He's
Speaker 1: really turned his life around now, but he was in
Speaker 1: prison for like a decade.
Speaker 5: So my buddy growing up that my parents hate it
Speaker 5: is in prison right now.
Speaker 1: I think most I think most people who know my
Speaker 1: story and they know my brother was in the federal
Speaker 1: prison for six years.
Speaker 3: So yeah, people can make mistakes, certainly. I mean, it's okay,
Speaker 3: you know, and I get it.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to say I'm just sitting here
Speaker 2: on my ivory tower, but you know, we all make mistakes.
Speaker 2: And like I tell my kids, there are mistakes and
Speaker 2: there's like you've really stepped.
Speaker 3: Your foot in it type of thing.
Speaker 2: And Tyrie continues to step his foot into situations like this.
Speaker 2: And if you are NFL owner and you're looking at
Speaker 2: the other fifty guys on your roster, you don't want
Speaker 2: them to be tainted by this because they can't go
Speaker 2: out and do their job because they're constantly being asked
Speaker 2: about you. And now this is becoming somewhat of a distraction.
Speaker 2: So I mean, the no Migro day is the way
Speaker 2: that I do. I'm sure they're having these discussions insign
Speaker 2: of the Dolphins organizations.
Speaker 3: It's more or less not time for Tyreek.
Speaker 2: To move on because he wants to separate himself from us.
Speaker 2: It's it's time for us to divorce ourselves from him.
Speaker 1: And you know, just like Kansas City, Kansas City finally
Speaker 1: got tired of his act.
Speaker 4: He had to get some other things going on there.
Speaker 1: They finally got tired of every year and your request
Speaker 1: to get more money. Tyreek kills a hell of a
Speaker 1: football player, but you know that there comes a point
Speaker 1: with every person, with every whatever, in any job, no
Speaker 1: matter how good you are at something, somebody's asking he's
Speaker 1: the juice worth the squeeze. And I think Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: has hit that limit with the Miami Dolphins. I would
Speaker 1: not be surprised if he were in another uniform to
Speaker 1: start the season.
Speaker 2: Well, see you say another uniform, somebody else gotta take a.
Speaker 3: Check based on what you're seeing in Miami.
Speaker 1: Somebody would you be willing You know the answer to
Speaker 1: this already, though you know the answer to that. I
Speaker 1: know that someone tell he proves he doesn't have the balance,
Speaker 1: someone else.
Speaker 4: Will take a chance because people are desperate.
Speaker 2: You know. It's one of these relationship types of things,
Speaker 2: right because you think that, oh, somehow I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be able to change this person. This is a cheating man,
Speaker 2: this is a cheating woman. So when I get with them,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be the person to somewhat turn them around.
Speaker 2: And yes, there are people in league organizations all over
Speaker 2: the league they said, okay, well, they see more of
Speaker 2: the talent that the player has and they think that
Speaker 2: they can overcome the headache because they have a more
Speaker 2: I guess, leadership driven locker room. And sometimes you can't
Speaker 2: overcome it because this is who this individual is.
Speaker 3: This is who they are.
Speaker 1: Well you and are you and I both have a
Speaker 1: good friend in common who got four chances despite being
Speaker 1: before he cleaned his life up. Uh first with the
Speaker 1: Chargers and the Bucks and the Cowboys and the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: And that was Ryan Leaf, Yes, and he couldn't get
Speaker 1: his accate. And then he turned around and started coaching
Speaker 1: and doing all that stuff at the collegiate level and
Speaker 1: he got he got.
Speaker 4: Kicked out with us at three different jobs.
Speaker 1: I think one of them where even stealing from student,
Speaker 1: you know, those kinds of things. Like Ryan, to his credit,
Speaker 1: has turned his life around as an absolute beacon in
Speaker 1: terms of who he is now. But he will admit,
Speaker 1: he will absolutely admit, like you are way more chances
Speaker 1: than he should have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Ryan was having his issues with substance abuse,
Speaker 2: right and I tell him, I say, look, man, big
Speaker 2: shout out to you for whatever impinges on you to
Speaker 2: make you change your mind. And sometimes all that takes
Speaker 2: is seeing your wife, seeing your kids and thinking what
Speaker 2: would life be without them, to make them change, to
Speaker 2: make you change your mind.
Speaker 3: And I think that's what happened to Ryan, and I'm
Speaker 3: happy for him.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that maybe Tyreek can't change his ways.
Speaker 2: Maybe could this be the coming to Jesus, you know
Speaker 2: moment for him. But it takes a team or someone
Speaker 2: in an organization and to say, you know what, enough
Speaker 2: is enough, Even though we may not want you here
Speaker 2: as a plan because we feel as though you are
Speaker 2: a distraction, I still want to help you as a
Speaker 2: human being.
Speaker 4: But it still takes the person.
Speaker 5: I mean, my brother seven years sober now, thank god.
Speaker 5: But it takes the individual making that choice to want
Speaker 5: to change. You can have as many people in your
Speaker 5: life tell you that you should change and we want
Speaker 5: you to change, and we know you can be a
Speaker 5: better person, but it takes the individual making that personal
Speaker 5: choice to be better.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree with that, and I can speak to
Speaker 1: that from personal experience as far as some of that
Speaker 1: stuff goes. But what I will tell you is if
Speaker 1: you're talented, charismatic, and if you are able to do
Speaker 1: something whatever that may be, whether it's playing football or
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, you will continue to get chances
Speaker 1: until people just eventually give up on you.
Speaker 4: Look at Josh Gord.
Speaker 1: Josh Gord was the Cleveland Browse, the New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, Kansas City Chiefs, Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 4: He kept getting chance. That's a chance.
Speaker 1: Finally got it turned around later on, but it took
Speaker 1: him along time. There's another substance to it.
Speaker 3: Took him a long time to get that, to get
Speaker 3: that under control.
Speaker 2: Because the way I'll look at it, and I'll speak
Speaker 2: to it from this standpoint, the fact that I grew
Speaker 2: up in Miami and and I grew up around drug
Speaker 2: culture and then watch it destroy families in my neighborhood.
Speaker 2: I've watched it destroy members of my own family.
Speaker 3: Grant is right.
Speaker 2: It takes that person being willing to see the errors
Speaker 2: in their ways to want to change. But for certain
Speaker 2: people who are going through that, they have to hit
Speaker 2: rock bottom first, right. And also you need people around
Speaker 2: you who care because usually if someone is going through
Speaker 2: that situation that Grant described about his brother that I've
Speaker 2: seen some of my aunts and uncles go through, they
Speaker 2: have individuals who are aiding into betting them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to you have to find the turnaround
Speaker 1: put whether it is rock bottom or whatever. And I
Speaker 1: don't know where Grant's a brother found the turnaroup what
Speaker 1: was it?
Speaker 4: A rock bottom moment? About three times?
Speaker 1: Okay, I can speak to some of that from from
Speaker 1: my own you know, Like I said, my brother was
Speaker 1: in the federal pen for six years.
Speaker 3: You finally turned his life around and doing well.
Speaker 1: Was theready My step brother didn't get it together, wound
Speaker 1: up odn you know, and it ended up being the
Speaker 1: end of that, Like he just couldn't couldn't get it together.
Speaker 4: So you know, we've seen that with Tyreek Hill. Obviously,
Speaker 4: these are substance of these problems.
Speaker 1: This is a he's been enabled and not gotten his
Speaker 1: head on street because he's so supremely talented that people
Speaker 1: are willing to look the other way a little bit
Speaker 1: on these things. To a point, Kansas City did it
Speaker 1: for a while, Miami's done it for a while. Is
Speaker 1: getting there. There are people that when you are very talented,
Speaker 1: they'll try to sweep your problems under the rug.
Speaker 4: They'll try to look the other way.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to give you another example of DeShawn
Speaker 1: Watson down there in Houston.
Speaker 3: The Texans knew what was going on with DeShawn Watson.
Speaker 4: They knew and they went.
Speaker 3: And got they went out, in fact, they went out
Speaker 3: and got him a hotel room for him to go.
Speaker 3: You know, do it this, Custos.
Speaker 2: Supers, you are not helping. No, you're an able person,
Speaker 2: know the player in that sensu way.
Speaker 1: You're just trying to It's in that moment those relationships
Speaker 1: become transactional because that moment what the Houston Texans were
Speaker 1: trying to do, because we get out of Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: what they wanted and hope that it went away by
Speaker 1: if it happens in that hotel room we have security
Speaker 1: on that or you know whatever.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing here.
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins now are enabling Tyreek Hilt by continuing to
Speaker 1: say this behavior and until they move on from it,
Speaker 1: Kansas City finally got tired of It's like Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: is probably the better example of this. Look at all
Speaker 1: the you know.
Speaker 4: All the talent in the world, people will put up.
Speaker 1: With it to a point if you're if you're helping
Speaker 1: them out with something, if you're a supremely talented athlete,
Speaker 1: people look the other way on stuff.
Speaker 5: And if there's no repercussions, the behavior is not going
Speaker 5: to change.
Speaker 1: Right, Like, nobody's gonna make that decision to change themselves
Speaker 1: on their own until they have to see.
Speaker 2: This is why I'm gonna I'm gonna tie this in
Speaker 2: to the Nugget situation in Coach Malone because I feel
Speaker 2: and and I've never been in the building, but I
Speaker 2: feel as though that's what Coach Malone was trying to
Speaker 2: do hold this players accountable, constantly bringing up the fact
Speaker 2: that not seeing effort, guys not watching film, hoping that
Speaker 2: that would force the leadership, either the players in the
Speaker 2: locker room or upper management to do something about it.
Speaker 2: But when you start to aid in the bed of
Speaker 2: the individuals and you start putting your arm around them, it's.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got you.
Speaker 2: Whatever we're going to push out this discipline or these
Speaker 2: morals and ethics, you're not really helping yourself.
Speaker 3: You're not really.
Speaker 2: Helping that person. You're absolutely hurting that individual. And it
Speaker 2: sucks when people who are in position where they can
Speaker 2: help players don't actually do it.
Speaker 1: That's why I asked that respect for guys like Tony Dungee,
Speaker 1: and there's there's been a couple of guys over the
Speaker 1: years in the NBA who have been that guy who
Speaker 1: really did try to take guys under the wings. And
Speaker 1: they'll give you a couple opportunities to get it together,
Speaker 1: but eventually they you know, they're like, look, at some point,
Speaker 1: you've got to help yourself too.
Speaker 3: I get it. But help that young man or that
Speaker 3: woman out.
Speaker 2: Don't just kind of take their their athletic ability, squeeze
Speaker 2: all the juice out of it and just kick them
Speaker 2: to the curve and just leave them on their own devices.
Speaker 3: Let's not do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to be a support system, not just
Speaker 1: an enabler. We come back Ryan Blackbird's going to join
Speaker 1: Us'll talk a little bit about this Malone situation a
Speaker 1: little further. You listen to Broncos Country Night Kawe. It's
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Speaker 1: out to the three and five texting. I've been clean
Speaker 1: since two thousand and five, fifty seven years old.
Speaker 4: Now, sometimes you just got to know what enough is enough?
Speaker 4: Denver Broncos for life. Good for you, man, Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: good stuff. Love that kind of stuff. Appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Brian said, thanks for allowing us to
Speaker 1: text the radio program. We're phenomenal sports talk hosts, so
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Brian as well. Saw all the other text there, Stacy.
Speaker 1: I'll get to your question a little bit later, probably
Speaker 1: the next segment. Some of the good stuff there. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go into the Kaway Comas with Hotline though and
Speaker 1: bring on our guy Ryan Blackburn at NBA. Blackburn on
Speaker 1: Twitter covers the Dinmver Nuggets from Mile High Sports Picksacks.
Speaker 4: And Roll co host Locked on Nuggets. Ryan, How you
Speaker 4: doing this evening?
Speaker 6: I'm doing well, guys. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Obviously a busy few days for the Nuggets. Fanis Nuggets faithful,
Speaker 1: Calvin Booth not being renewed as general manager, Michael Malone
Speaker 1: was let go. David Adaman takes over the Nuggets, of course,
Speaker 1: get the win. Adam been going with Jalen Pickett at
Speaker 1: the point which looked to be sort of a revelation there.
Speaker 1: What have you thought of the Malone hiring and what
Speaker 1: have you thought of their no pun intended post Malone era.
Speaker 6: It's a good start.
Speaker 7: They needed a clean breath of fresh air. And then
Speaker 7: it was very clear, based off of sort of the
Speaker 7: end of this tenure, how much pressure there was on
Speaker 7: everybody within the organization. It's something I've been talking about.
Speaker 7: Everybody felt it. Everybody felt it from top to bottom,
Speaker 7: and I think Josh Crunkie and then the Crunkies basically
Speaker 7: as everything over the course of the last few weeks
Speaker 7: and then realized, hey, this is not the way that
Speaker 7: we wanted this thing to go. Wanted to see a
Speaker 7: big change, wanted to see if there was an opportunity
Speaker 7: to revitalize and repurpose Denver a little bit.
Speaker 6: As the season.
Speaker 7: Ends and you get David Adelman in there, who has
Speaker 7: been around. He's been around the team for a while,
Speaker 7: but he's a fresh voice in these huddles. See somebody
Speaker 7: that the team does respect. And then clearly they played
Speaker 7: like it on Wednesday night. So good start for the
Speaker 7: Nuggets in Sacramento and then they came away with a
Speaker 7: very balanced and good win.
Speaker 3: Right, let's be totally trans found here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you went out and you played well after your
Speaker 2: coach got fired.
Speaker 3: That's something that we.
Speaker 2: Often expect in any major sport called in the motion
Speaker 2: to bump. You go out and you play well against
Speaker 2: a team that is the ninth seed in the West.
Speaker 2: Does that somehow change everything about how the Nuggets got
Speaker 2: to this point.
Speaker 6: Oh of course not.
Speaker 7: And it's a good point. I think it's a good
Speaker 7: piece for Nuggets fans, for NBA fans, or people that
Speaker 7: are just trying to tune into the situation to fully understand.
Speaker 7: Is that, Yeah, Denver, they bounced back from a four
Speaker 7: game losing streak, they bounced back from going four and
Speaker 7: eight in their previous twelve games, and they did it
Speaker 7: by be being a Kings team that they've had their
Speaker 7: number over the course of these last few years. So
Speaker 7: it's nothing special, But the way.
Speaker 6: That they did.
Speaker 7: It's where you see the efforts, you see the intensity,
Speaker 7: and you see it's funny. Nikola Jocis actually lost his
Speaker 7: voice in the game last night, and part of that
Speaker 7: was because he was yelling, he was communicating, he was
Speaker 7: talking so much.
Speaker 6: He was trying like he was.
Speaker 7: Getting everybody involved, putting everybody in the place that they
Speaker 7: needed to go. And when you hear things like that,
Speaker 7: when you see things like that, it's just a small
Speaker 7: manifestation of what should be a larger change for Denvers. Hey,
Speaker 7: let's get back to being what we know is serious basketball,
Speaker 7: because they hadn't been playing serious basketball up until that point.
Speaker 7: So every big journey, as you guys know, happens with
Speaker 7: the first step, and we'll see if they have enough
Speaker 7: runway to actually make any change. There are only two
Speaker 7: games remaining left in the season, so I'm not expecting
Speaker 7: this massive improvement.
Speaker 2: So this thing bath was made because what you just said,
Speaker 2: I've heard from several people. Of course, Nikola Jokis lost
Speaker 2: his voice. He was screaming, he was coaching on asah line.
Speaker 2: I think Graham was telling me that there was at
Speaker 2: one point in the game, and.
Speaker 3: I don't know how I missed it.
Speaker 2: Then Nikola Jokish had the little pad and he was
Speaker 2: just drawing things. So my thing is, could they could
Speaker 2: Nikola Jokic not have done those same things? And do
Speaker 2: you believe that Michael Malone was prohibiting Nikola Jokic and
Speaker 2: other players from doing these types of things.
Speaker 6: I think there's some of it.
Speaker 7: I think when you when you have an established pecking
Speaker 7: order and you have a coach that you've trusted, you,
Speaker 7: a coach that's been there for ten full years, you
Speaker 7: I think it caught in a lot of the same
Speaker 7: rhythms without necessarily trying to go above and beyond. And
Speaker 7: then there was clearly some frustration with everybody. I think
Speaker 7: folks at various points were frustrated with Malone some of
Speaker 7: the ways that he was using some different players, some
Speaker 7: of the leeway he was giving to others, and then
Speaker 7: just the yelling, I think was something that a lot
Speaker 7: of people were a little bit over by over with
Speaker 7: because he was as a very emotional coach. He runs
Speaker 7: very hot and that causes them to I think, blow
Speaker 7: up at times, and I think.
Speaker 6: The Nuggets were a little bit frustrated by that. But
Speaker 6: of course.
Speaker 7: It doesn't absolve the players from anything. Even Nikolai Yokichhu's
Speaker 7: had such a heavy burden on his shoulders for the
Speaker 7: entire season, there are things that he could have been
Speaker 7: doing better.
Speaker 6: Communication is one where.
Speaker 7: It doesn't take a lot in order to do that.
Speaker 7: It should be a natural byproduct of the game, just
Speaker 7: being able to communicate with your teammates. But I think
Speaker 7: it's it's been a pretty quiet locker room, a pretty
Speaker 7: quiet floor for Denver over the course of this year,
Speaker 7: and hopefully this is the catalyst that they needed to
Speaker 7: change that.
Speaker 3: Tyler Ryan Blackbird an NBA blackbird on Twitter.
Speaker 1: As we look at this, Adaman's obviously going to get
Speaker 1: a chance here in the interim to win a job.
Speaker 4: He's going to get that opportunity.
Speaker 1: But if he's not able to, or if they are
Speaker 1: not convinced, some other names to.
Speaker 4: Potentially look at here.
Speaker 1: The name I've been slipped was Chris Quinn, the assistant
Speaker 1: to Spolster there at the Miami Heat. Of course, he
Speaker 1: played in the NBA, played Little euro Ball in Spain
Speaker 1: and played in Rush as well. What do you think
Speaker 1: of Quinn and who are some other names you think
Speaker 1: could be involved?
Speaker 7: Chris Quinn's been around, He's been somebody that has been
Speaker 7: in the NBA head coaching candidate circles for a while.
Speaker 7: Anybody that's learned under Eric Feustralia is a good candidate.
Speaker 6: I'm not going.
Speaker 7: To say that I know extensively how much Chris Quinn
Speaker 7: is responsible for what's going on in Miami, what has
Speaker 7: gone on in Miami over the course of the last
Speaker 7: few years, but it does seem like he would be solid.
Speaker 7: A couple of veteran head coaches. You obviously thought Taylor
Speaker 7: Jenkins get fired, he could.
Speaker 6: Be a name that they call.
Speaker 7: Frank Vogel, the name that I've heard could be on
Speaker 7: the docket. And I also have heard Mike and Norri
Speaker 7: a former assistant for the Nuggets that is is somebody
Speaker 7: that they will consider. But just in general, I think
Speaker 7: the most important position that Denver will fill over the
Speaker 7: course of these next couple of weeks couple of months
Speaker 7: is general manager, and they'll probably do that first. They're
Speaker 7: going to want a direction for the team, and I'm
Speaker 7: not going to predict so now like who they're actually
Speaker 7: going to.
Speaker 6: Go get there.
Speaker 7: It would be nice if they could go get Bob
Speaker 7: Myers somebody who they've been rumored to be around over
Speaker 7: the course of these past few months. Bob Myers would
Speaker 7: have interest if the Nuggets were able to pay him,
Speaker 7: So we will see whether they can pony up right.
Speaker 2: I actually put something out on X yesterday at Nick
Speaker 2: Ferguson out to score twenty five if you want to
Speaker 2: check that out where I talked about Bob Myers, Mike
Speaker 2: Brown even tossed out Kevin Durant. I mean, we live
Speaker 2: in a world of fantasy football, so I just threw
Speaker 2: out my three best. But you know, some of the
Speaker 2: comeback the comments that I've eve, you know, been pretty
Speaker 2: spot on. But one of them in particular, which made
Speaker 2: me think about the Nuggets organization and how much they
Speaker 2: are willing to kind of put this organization back on
Speaker 2: the map after getting rid of Michael Malone, and that
Speaker 2: was if they were to go after Bob Myers, would
Speaker 2: they be willing to pay him what he feels though
Speaker 2: he has earned the right to to just kind of
Speaker 2: remedy any.
Speaker 3: Kind of thissfunction that they have.
Speaker 2: Do you think that Josh Crockey right, and knowing as
Speaker 2: though they own so many sports franchise, they will be
Speaker 2: willing to give Bob Myers what he wants to kind
Speaker 2: of elevate this organization.
Speaker 6: It would be great if they did.
Speaker 7: You've seen and you guys are obviously very familiar with
Speaker 7: the NFL side of this. You've seen them expend resources
Speaker 7: for the RAMS organization. You've seen them expend resources for Arsenal.
Speaker 7: They are obviously kind up in a lot of different places,
Speaker 7: and this is something that they have learned. Like, if
Speaker 7: they identify a guy that they believe can push them forward,
Speaker 7: then then maybe this is a good opportunity for them
Speaker 7: to pony up and spend a little bit of money.
Speaker 7: And maybe the choice that they decide to make is
Speaker 7: we're going to spend extensive money on a general manager
Speaker 7: and not as much money on a head coach or
Speaker 7: vice versa. But I do think that if they have
Speaker 7: interest in a guy, and.
Speaker 6: If they believe that the goal for.
Speaker 7: Denver should be to get the right person in there
Speaker 7: to be the steward of Nikolokich's tenure of his crime,
Speaker 7: as Calvin Booth like to say, then you should go
Speaker 7: get the best candidate.
Speaker 6: You should.
Speaker 7: It's an unlimited checkbook that you're allowed to throw out there,
Speaker 7: and so if there is an opportunity to get one
Speaker 7: of the best executives in the NBA, then I think
Speaker 7: that they should try it.
Speaker 1: That Ryan Blackbird an NBA Blackburn on Twitter, I want
Speaker 1: to push back with the Ball Myers thing for a second.
Speaker 1: I love Ball Myers. I think he's a great general manager.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be a great candidate. But I want
Speaker 1: to play the other side of the coin for a minute.
Speaker 1: For those that don't know, I mean, he's the guy
Speaker 1: who hired Steve Kurry, brought Taranti and the Warriors.
Speaker 3: I think everybody should know all that.
Speaker 1: My question about Myers is he's got a really, really
Speaker 1: cozy relationship with Josh Harris. Why has that group not
Speaker 1: hired him as a general manager given all the problems
Speaker 1: they have with that basketball team. I mean, he's he's
Speaker 1: so close with him. He aided with him helping to
Speaker 1: hire Anna Peters and Dan Quinn over in Washington for
Speaker 1: the Commanders.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 6: It was a unique position that he had.
Speaker 7: When when he went over from the NBA to the NFL.
Speaker 7: It's something that surprised a lot of NBA people when
Speaker 7: it actually happened. I won't predict like pretend to know exactly.
Speaker 6: Why they haven't gone that route.
Speaker 7: Maybe they feel like they can go in a different
Speaker 7: direction and have already gone in a different direction around
Speaker 7: Jayden Daniels and doing what they need to do to
Speaker 7: build around him long term. But it's interesting. I think
Speaker 7: that he's always been more of an NBA guy, and
Speaker 7: the NBA is so much more about connections now. He's
Speaker 7: a former agent, He's a former guy who was already
Speaker 7: connected around the NBA. He's got the best relationships around
Speaker 7: the NBA of all the executives that you could really
Speaker 7: be pulling that are available, and for Denver, like that's
Speaker 7: actually one of the things that Calvin Booth really struggled
Speaker 7: with was was connecting with other people. And whether it
Speaker 7: was the personality quirks that he has had or just
Speaker 7: his willingness to be extremely blunt and not necessarily play
Speaker 7: the social game. I'm not sure, but I do think
Speaker 7: that Bob would be a good fit for Denver. He's
Speaker 7: talked glowingly about Denver as a not a job destination
Speaker 7: for himself, but just the opportunity to put a team
Speaker 7: around Nikoliokhich. I think he would revel in basically similar
Speaker 7: to the way that he had to put a team
Speaker 7: around Steph Curry.
Speaker 2: Do you worry at all about Jamal Murray's health moving forward?
Speaker 2: Because I read something before I came in today to
Speaker 2: say that he may be available against Memphis tomorrow night.
Speaker 3: Do you say I think that if he's still.
Speaker 2: Laboring with his injury, they should risk playing him or
Speaker 2: they should just hold off and wait until see what happens,
Speaker 2: whether they're in the play in or they are hosting
Speaker 2: a home game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 7: Final home game of the season for the regular season.
Speaker 7: Chair then replaced two more games obviously Friday and Sunday,
Speaker 7: and Murray is doubtful on the injury report as of now.
Speaker 7: If they wanted to rush him back, then they could.
Speaker 7: But the word that we were getting was that his
Speaker 7: injury was a lot more serious than the initial day
Speaker 7: to day evaluation that we saw. I don't know what's changed.
Speaker 7: It could have been an exacerbation of a hamstring injury.
Speaker 7: The hamstring is very tender, and especially in the NBA,
Speaker 7: where it could turn out to be a four to
Speaker 7: six week injury very very quickly. I'm not saying that
Speaker 7: that's what this is, but he's already missed I believe
Speaker 7: six games in a row. He's going on about two weeks,
Speaker 7: and if they were to rest him than he'd get
Speaker 7: an extra week. Assuming they continue to win and make
Speaker 7: the playoffs, he'd get another week in between now and
Speaker 7: when the playoffs were to start for resting that leg.
Speaker 7: So I think that there's a school of thought on
Speaker 7: both ends, because David Adaman would love to be able
Speaker 7: to build a playoff rotation with Denver's current group and
Speaker 7: then see where he could fit these guys in. But
Speaker 7: I also think he kind of knows what he has.
Speaker 7: He's been around, he's been through with Denver for a
Speaker 7: whole bunch of these playoff runs. So I don't think
Speaker 7: it's that important to get Murray back.
Speaker 6: But it would still be nice.
Speaker 1: To happen, you know, tan Ryan Blackbird at NBA Blackbird
Speaker 1: on Twitter. The Adamman earro starts with Jalen Ticket at
Speaker 1: the point, guard Russ Westbrook coming off the bench. Russ
Speaker 1: continued to struggle here as he struggled in the later
Speaker 1: part of the season. Picket at a great game. Whether
Speaker 1: that's a one offer, whether that's who he is, remains
Speaker 1: to be seen. But is that an Adamman move or
Speaker 1: is that an organizational move to see what they have out?
Speaker 6: That's funny.
Speaker 7: You removed Calvin Booth from the equation, you remove Michael
Speaker 7: Malone from the equation, and what does David Alliman do, Well,
Speaker 7: he doesn't change anything. He leaves Jalen Pickett in that
Speaker 7: starting lineup, which is what he.
Speaker 6: Had done in the Indiana game. And despite the fact.
Speaker 7: That there were some inconsistencies in the Indiana game, he
Speaker 7: leaves him out there in Sacramento, and Pickett pays it off.
Speaker 6: And then it's funny.
Speaker 7: He's if there's one player that has been in the
Speaker 7: pull of this Michael Malone Calvin Booth feud, it's it's jail.
Speaker 6: And Pickett at the center of it.
Speaker 7: Because Thickett was very representative of everything that Calvin Booth
Speaker 7: wanted to do in terms of turning what was Denver's
Speaker 7: competitive roster into a long term development project to try
Speaker 7: to match a team like the OKC Thunder what they're doing.
Speaker 7: Michael Malone wasn't having it, and unfortunately it got caught
Speaker 7: in the crossfire. Jalen Pickets actually just a good player.
Speaker 6: He's a good.
Speaker 7: Talented player and very helpful, and he makes very few mistakes,
Speaker 7: and as you can see when he hits his shots,
Speaker 7: he's very, very positive as a player and just just
Speaker 7: pretty solid overall. So I think that he's going to
Speaker 7: be a guy that if you have had to ask.
Speaker 6: Me, if Murray comes back and Pickett and.
Speaker 7: Russ are still out there, like who plays, who plays?
Speaker 6: Dude?
Speaker 7: Who plays the backup point guard position? Do they both play?
Speaker 7: Does one of them get their minutes reduced all the
Speaker 7: way down to zero? I don't know, Guys like this
Speaker 7: is this is uncharted territory that we're in here right now.
Speaker 6: But Adaman, it was notable to me there. Rather than
Speaker 6: go with the veteran, he went with the.
Speaker 7: Young guy, which is not something that you usually see
Speaker 7: as an interim head coach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting looking forward to seeing how this thing
Speaker 1: plays out. We'll have to get back on again here
Speaker 1: soon once the Nuggers make the playoff. Ryan Blackburn, NBA
Speaker 1: Blackbird on Twitter.
Speaker 4: Thanks man, Thanks Nick, Absolutely.
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