Speaker 1: Welcome to the Marvel Alliance Podcast, where recover anything and
Speaker 1: everything to do with the Marvel Universe and the comics,
Speaker 1: TV and movies. We'll go from UR six one six
Speaker 1: to the Mojo Verse to the TVA in order to
Speaker 1: bring the Marvel Universe right to you. I'm the Man
Speaker 1: without Fear, Chris.
Speaker 2: I'm your friendly neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Brent Alliance A Symbol, Volume two hundred and twenty five.
Speaker 1: We took a week off. We're back and someone is
Speaker 1: back after a his sojourn into the wasteland.
Speaker 2: Yes, unplanned, had a little bit of a family thing
Speaker 2: that just had to be taken care of and handled
Speaker 2: that night. Thank you to those of you who reached out.
Speaker 2: I will just say right now things are better. Progress
Speaker 2: is not a straight line, but things are moving better
Speaker 2: on that front. And I apologize to Carrie for missing
Speaker 2: the last episode. I shaded hearing the hall Age perspective.
Speaker 2: I wish I could have been on with him. He's
Speaker 2: been I know, a long time listener and that would
Speaker 2: have been great. And he listened to the Squadcast stuff
Speaker 2: I was a part of and longtime listeners, so that
Speaker 2: would have been great. So I apologized to him. And
Speaker 2: of course, Heines, thank you for filling in last week
Speaker 2: or last two weeks ago. I guess last episode as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird. It's only been two weeks, but a
Speaker 1: lot's happened in two weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there was like nothing last week obviously
Speaker 2: with D twenty three, but then that D twenty three
Speaker 2: hits and it's like all kinds of different news this
Speaker 2: of last night, I read I think four or five
Speaker 2: different articles about Daredevil born Again from different interviews that
Speaker 2: happened at D twenty three. Just if you search, I
Speaker 2: was in the Apple News app and I just searched
Speaker 2: Daredevil and they all came up, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm reading this. I'm reading this. I'm reading this. It's
Speaker 2: like it's an entertaining, entertaining evening before bed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's been. It's been good again. Thank
Speaker 1: you Heines, and thank you Carrie. It was. It was
Speaker 1: great hearing it. And mister hind always for being a
Speaker 1: good sport and stepping in last minute. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: He's so good at it.
Speaker 1: But obviously, how you know, you said think things are improving,
Speaker 1: progressing at that point, but how has it been this week.
Speaker 2: You know, this week has been I'm really really tired.
Speaker 2: This week has been a hard one work wise. But
Speaker 2: you know what I've done. I have read a ton
Speaker 2: of comic books this week because I got sucked into
Speaker 2: a couple of stories.
Speaker 1: I've done the complete opposite.
Speaker 2: But when I say a ton of comic books, I
Speaker 2: mean like I've read in the last week, week and
Speaker 2: a half the number you probably read in two hours.
Speaker 2: But I've read about twenty issues, which for me is
Speaker 2: a lot. But I read all ten issues of from
Speaker 2: the Wolverine volume that just ended, of the Sabertooth War yep.
Speaker 2: And I really enjoyed that one. That was a fun,
Speaker 2: gruesome book. It was I know you're not digging it
Speaker 2: as much. But the current Venom title, which I won't
Speaker 2: be broken hearted when it's over, but I'm enjoying it
Speaker 2: for what it is. It had a crossover with a
Speaker 2: current Carnage title, and I enjoyed that quite That Carnage
Speaker 2: title book is way more interesting than I thought it
Speaker 2: was going to be. But I don't know if you've
Speaker 2: read any of that, but I enjoyed that. I enjoyed
Speaker 2: that crossover. Other than the last part of the crossover
Speaker 2: clear really didn't end, it just started. It was really
Speaker 2: the first part of the next Carnond story. I'm like,
Speaker 2: come on, like, I hate it when they do that.
Speaker 2: But it's just like little mixed there. But it's sorry.
Speaker 2: It was. It's a good story and I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 2: keep reading it. But and then a few random one
Speaker 2: offs of my regular regulars that come out. But I
Speaker 2: just I was like, man, I'm reading as much as
Speaker 2: Chris does in a single day and it took me.
Speaker 2: But the ten issues of Wolverine I read it. It
Speaker 2: was great. I read it all on a day. Seriously,
Speaker 2: if you guys have Marvel un Limited and you haven't
Speaker 2: read it, Sabertooth War the Heart was beautiful the whole
Speaker 2: way through, and it.
Speaker 1: Is it's wild. It's yes, it is wild. I definitely
Speaker 1: would agree with that recommendation. Yet, this week is the
Speaker 1: first week back to school, so Chris has not done
Speaker 1: any ready. Chris has done Chris has been up late
Speaker 1: getting a lot of stuff done for this week. But again,
Speaker 1: I love my job and it's all for the kids,
Speaker 1: and so it's been It's been good because this is
Speaker 1: my first time being an elementary school administrator. So elementary
Speaker 1: school beginning of the year versus middle and high school. Wow,
Speaker 1: it is it is a whole thing at that point.
Speaker 1: You know, I've got kids in elementary school, but I'm
Speaker 1: not there. So now I'm gonna think of it, and
Speaker 1: it's you know again, it's it's fun, but it's it's
Speaker 1: a whole different ballgame.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So so I'm very tired. So if you hear me
Speaker 1: sounding a little different, yeah, I'm a little congested at
Speaker 1: this point. But that's the beginning of the week, not
Speaker 1: getting too much, not getting a bed on time, and
Speaker 1: not getting enough sleep. So hopefully I can make up
Speaker 1: for it this weekend. So but but all right, Yes,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of stuff to talk about, like
Speaker 1: the main focus of the show tonight, bulk of it,
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Speaker 1: Logan and Brent. We took July off because of all
Speaker 1: our lovely travels, but now we're back and we're getting
Speaker 1: ready to record next Monday, diving into a movie that
Speaker 1: I don't even remember the last time i'd seen.
Speaker 2: I'd watched it, yeah, the first X Men movie.
Speaker 1: It did.
Speaker 2: I did my homework already for it.
Speaker 1: My homework will be done on Saturday.
Speaker 2: It had been a very long time since I watched it.
Speaker 2: But in the history of comic book movies, one of
Speaker 2: the most important, regardless of how you feel about it,
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Speaker 2: looking forward to discussing it when we record that next week.
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Speaker 1: All right, so we have a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, with the twenty three you know, I was
Speaker 1: on the day of the film Junkies Vodka stream on
Speaker 1: Friday just doing this live. He had forgotten it was
Speaker 1: going to be going live the same time as his show,
Speaker 1: so he was like, all right, he wants to jump
Speaker 1: on and start breaking this down. And it was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. So I've had a lot of time
Speaker 1: to kind of sit on this, kind of digest some stuff.
Speaker 1: We know. Bren and I know a lot of these
Speaker 1: trailers have leaked. Some of them are still out there,
Speaker 1: so I've gotten sniped, some haven't gotten sniped. Brent and
Speaker 1: I will not be showing the leaked ones because we
Speaker 1: don't want to be demonetized or sniped by Kevin Figee
Speaker 1: and Bob Iger, but we'll be talking about the footage
Speaker 1: and giving our thoughts on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I typically would have zero interest in watching a
Speaker 2: cam recorded copy of a trailer. But there's two real
Speaker 2: reasons why why I ended up watching these. One, all
Speaker 2: of these projects are really far away. They're really far
Speaker 2: out there. I think the very first one or the
Speaker 2: next one is Captain America, A Brave New World. It's
Speaker 2: not till February. They are a long ways away. Two,
Speaker 2: the footage and really audio was surprisingly clean for all
Speaker 2: ass like I was able to like normally, if I
Speaker 2: watch something from a camera like if I's like no,
Speaker 2: you can barely make stuff out. These are surprisingly clean
Speaker 2: and so yes, I watched them. I broke my personal
Speaker 2: rules several times for well, I watched all of the
Speaker 2: footage several times for a couple of them, but normally would.
Speaker 2: But yeah, though, just be aware if you are on
Speaker 2: a spoiler version. We're gonna talk openly about D twenty
Speaker 2: three footage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's some of the stuff that added from SDCC.
Speaker 1: Some of it's the exact same stuff from SDCC, but
Speaker 1: definitely gonna talk about it. And Julia says, I've seen
Speaker 1: a seen the leakked trailier. A. Yeah, we saw a
Speaker 1: lot of those.
Speaker 2: We saw some multiple times, yes.
Speaker 1: Many, many times from different angles. All right, So we're
Speaker 1: gonna start off with the Marvel Studios panel, which happened
Speaker 1: on Friday night, and that went on for a while.
Speaker 1: That went on for a lot long, like just the
Speaker 1: whole Disney Studios panel. Marvel was a part of that.
Speaker 1: That was it felt almost close to three hours.
Speaker 2: It was long, But I'm not upset with that. It's
Speaker 2: just like they kept having more and more stuff than
Speaker 2: It's like, Wow, they really do have a lot. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, they didn't talk about any new
Speaker 2: shows like everything or movies or anything. Was all pre
Speaker 2: existing content we already knew about was coming. And I
Speaker 2: think that was a good decision.
Speaker 1: I think again, it goes back to me because I
Speaker 1: sound like broke a record, you know, Bob Iger and
Speaker 1: pointing out that we're slowing down, We're we're kind of
Speaker 1: holding where they're putting out what exactly they have left
Speaker 1: from the previous era. I think the one show we
Speaker 1: haven't seen anything of, but it's been acknowledged officially as Wonderman.
Speaker 1: That's the only show they have acknowledged. But we have
Speaker 1: not seen anything of, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, butnowledged.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we know it's true.
Speaker 2: We know it's true.
Speaker 1: But all right, so let's start off with Captain America
Speaker 1: Brave New World. So it was briefly discussed. The same
Speaker 1: footage was shown at Sanego Comic Con, a little extra
Speaker 1: footage here and there. There. They started off with a
Speaker 1: scene with President Thaddeus Ross played by Harrison Ford, directly
Speaker 1: talking about the celestial that came out of the Earth
Speaker 1: at the end of the Eternals and the production of
Speaker 1: a new element, new material called what is this called?
Speaker 2: Brent, Well, we got to here, Harrison Ford say, adam antium.
Speaker 1: You know, it just feels right. Hearing Harrison Ford say
Speaker 1: those words, it's just it's just.
Speaker 2: Cool, right, Is there anyone cooler to say adam Antium probably,
Speaker 2: and then I want.
Speaker 1: The reporter to ask if brister President or excuse me, Harrison,
Speaker 1: mister Ford, what is at Adamantium?
Speaker 2: He probably has no idea, it doesn't care.
Speaker 1: So yes, it was cool to kind of hear that
Speaker 1: we had heard it discuss. Sam Wilson is shown with
Speaker 1: Joaquin in his Falcon soup. As they are flying together.
Speaker 1: They put a gends with President Thaddeus while Ross becoming
Speaker 1: the Red Hulk. This is a new look at Thattius
Speaker 1: Hulk for what we had seen at the podium, and man,
Speaker 1: he is I mean pun intended. He is massively hulked out.
Speaker 2: I love the way the Hulk looks and the Red
Speaker 2: Hulk looks in this. I absolutely love it. Funny thing
Speaker 2: I saw some tweets where people are like, did they
Speaker 2: really just take the and make him red? And the
Speaker 2: replies were like, why do you find out what his
Speaker 2: name is?
Speaker 1: I know, Yeah, his face looks very very well like
Speaker 1: Harson Forwards with his yellow eyes and black hair. So
Speaker 1: and that's that's kind of what it should be.
Speaker 2: He looked. He looks great. It looks great.
Speaker 1: I think we obviously when we see it in a
Speaker 1: real trailer. See it in that footage. We'll get it
Speaker 1: better than a like cam footage at that point. You know,
Speaker 1: speaking of all these league stuff, like, they're usually much
Speaker 1: better about keeping some of this out, and I know
Speaker 1: they did a much better job of keeping people from
Speaker 1: putting stuff out there for the animation panel, but this one,
Speaker 1: it almost seemed like they didn't care.
Speaker 2: I didn't see anything any footage from the animation pan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like it's like they didn't care. It's
Speaker 2: almost like they're like, just go for it. We're not
Speaker 2: coming for you on this one.
Speaker 1: We kind of you be our publicity and we don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about it.
Speaker 2: I still wish they had a live stream on Disney Plus.
Speaker 2: I would pay for a live stream of it on
Speaker 2: Disney Plus. I would have happily done that.
Speaker 1: Or even just do it after the fact like they
Speaker 1: did with the Disney Legends, because that's on Disney Plus.
Speaker 1: They could have easily done that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they had like little a little like ten
Speaker 2: minute recap thing that my friend Brocks sent me the
Speaker 2: on like the official Marvel channels, and I watched it
Speaker 2: and it was cool and It was nice to see
Speaker 2: like good quality footage of that stuff. But I'm like,
Speaker 2: just put the whole thing up there after that, I
Speaker 2: still would have watched it.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's what we were just talking about, Julio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the President turning into Red Hulk. Yeah, it's it's It
Speaker 1: was just cool to kind of see its stand of
Speaker 1: seeing from behind, we got to see it really upfront,
Speaker 1: close up close and personal. So uh but yeah, that
Speaker 1: was about it for Brave New World, and followed up
Speaker 1: by some new stuff from The Fantastic Four with the
Speaker 1: best title in the world First Steps.
Speaker 2: Weird title, but a right here yeap. So.
Speaker 1: The footage, filmed in four point four four to three
Speaker 1: aspect ratio, looks like it's playing on a retro television.
Speaker 1: Starts off with Reid Richards play by Pedro Pascal, teaching
Speaker 1: a classroom asking if they want to see an explosion.
Speaker 1: The Thing played by Ebon Moss background is seen on
Speaker 1: a retro dating show the game, but only in a silhouette,
Speaker 1: so we kind of see him in the thing form.
Speaker 1: The footage ends with a team in an astronaut suits
Speaker 1: with the last names of each of the characters in
Speaker 1: the suits as they enter a retro futuristic rocket before
Speaker 1: the ship takes off and the aspect ratio of the
Speaker 1: footage changes. The footage end with Galactus's face behind a building.
Speaker 1: Part of his face is seen through the building and
Speaker 1: it's clear that it has a very comic accurate look.
Speaker 1: So basically this is the STC trailer. Yes, yes, so,
Speaker 1: and but what was new? And as I kind of
Speaker 1: pull it up on here, we got our first look
Speaker 1: at the cast and the costume, or at least a
Speaker 1: version of said costume.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about that?
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it right now. I don't think it's bad.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's perf I don't think it's what.
Speaker 1: It definitely wasn't what I was thinking. I've kind of
Speaker 1: moved on, like I don't you know. I know we
Speaker 1: got what we did with John Krazinski's Mister Fantastic that
Speaker 1: that was great. They're doing a look of this. I
Speaker 1: with everything I'm gonna say, I need to see it
Speaker 1: in action. I wouldn't put it past them. Is if
Speaker 1: this is maybe a first a first look at the suit,
Speaker 1: and maybe they'll be an improved suit later on. But
Speaker 1: if this is the suit, I need to see it
Speaker 1: in live action to really give a full thing. So
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not totally disappointed. It's not It's not
Speaker 1: bad at all. It's not bad.
Speaker 2: I am hoping that this is like the pre launch,
Speaker 2: like the pre power Suit, and it's like a flashback scene,
Speaker 2: and that they were wearing some sort of special suits
Speaker 2: for that. I know they're probably just going to be
Speaker 2: in astronaut suits, but I don't. I don't love it
Speaker 2: as a final costume for the movie, right like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I'm but.
Speaker 2: Like you said, seeing it in action could make a
Speaker 2: big difference, and it's worth noting, Well, the thing is
Speaker 2: gonna be all rocky, He's not gonna see it this way,
Speaker 2: Johnny Storm and Battle is going to be on fire,
Speaker 2: and Visible Woman is going to be invisible half the time. No,
Speaker 2: and reads is gonna look totally different, stretchy. So just
Speaker 2: seeing it this way isn't even a good It's not
Speaker 2: like another costume for a character like say Daredevil, getting
Speaker 2: a look at him where it's like, that's what the
Speaker 2: costume looks like like in battle, he still looks the same.
Speaker 2: All of their powers make them look different in an
Speaker 2: actual combat and so I think even if this is it,
Speaker 2: I think it'll be fine. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, the things basically wearing underwear usually.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so, but it wasn't a matter of a
Speaker 2: wrestling slinglet so yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was cool just getting to see it
Speaker 1: for the first time. Maybe that was a nice little
Speaker 1: gem to put out there. So but but yeah, so
Speaker 1: that was mostly fantastic. Pot. I mean, how are you
Speaker 1: feeling it after sitting on it for a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks after SDCC.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling good. I'm feeling positive. You know. I'm still
Speaker 2: kind of amazed at how much they've I know it's
Speaker 2: basically proved of concept videos, but I'm amazed at how
Speaker 2: much of that they've been able to put together to
Speaker 2: have something to show a s CCC, to have something
Speaker 2: to show a D twenty three didn't even take into
Speaker 2: consideration that costume could have just been something they threw
Speaker 2: together for that, like maybe it'll be the same design
Speaker 2: but different material or something for Johnny there that we saw. Overall,
Speaker 2: I'm feeling good about it. I've seen a few people
Speaker 2: saying they don't understand why why this is the particular
Speaker 2: actor for Johnny for you. His name's escaping me right now.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. It seems fine to me from
Speaker 2: what I've read, but you know, let's let's get it.
Speaker 1: He's gotten his you know, you know, he Justseph Quinn,
Speaker 1: by the way, think you know got his big break
Speaker 1: came from Stranger Things. He had a big part in
Speaker 1: the Quiet Place prequel movie that came out. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a rising star. I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1: I'm not a I wasn't. I'm not a huge fan
Speaker 1: of Stranger Things. It's just not my tempo, and people
Speaker 1: find that strange. I'm a geek and it very much
Speaker 1: in eighties culture. So I guess what not my tempo?
Speaker 2: I've never seen it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. See, So I totally get I
Speaker 1: have it as a no problem with the casting of
Speaker 1: Omar is trying to be cheeky. He said, we've been
Speaker 1: craving a look at these costumes for a long time.
Speaker 2: I don't understand. I don't get it Omar one bit.
Speaker 1: All right, So the next up we get is the
Speaker 1: only official trailer that they put out. There was a
Speaker 1: new trailer for Agatha all along. Now, Brent, they just
Speaker 1: released it. Their first trailer three or four weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I liked that they did this and it
Speaker 2: was cool, Like did you did you see the video
Speaker 2: of them singing at the twenty three?
Speaker 1: I did?
Speaker 2: That was awesome, right, like like justn Hahn and the
Speaker 2: cast scene, like for real, that was really cool. And
Speaker 2: that song is in this trailer and it's pretty darn catchy.
Speaker 2: It's pretty darn catchy.
Speaker 1: Yes, before we start playing it, I hear are the
Speaker 1: lyrics of the song. Marching ever forwardneath the wooded shrine,
Speaker 1: I straight out from the path, I hold ooth hand
Speaker 1: in mine, primal night, give it a sight familiar by side.
Speaker 1: If some be gone, we carry on spirit as our guide.
Speaker 1: Down down down the road, down the Witch's room. Blood
Speaker 1: and tears and bone maiden, mother, Crane, Crane. The road
Speaker 1: is wild and wicked, winding through the wood, where all
Speaker 1: those wrong is right and all that's bad is good.
Speaker 1: Through many miles of twisted trials, we wander high and low.
Speaker 1: Take your fears adore, peers. The time has come to
Speaker 1: go down, down down the road, down the Witch's road.
Speaker 1: Follow me, my friend to the glory at the end.
Speaker 1: They much better singers than I am.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know why you didn't sing it, but.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't even know the two yet.
Speaker 1: I haven't committed that one to memory, so it is.
Speaker 2: It is definitely a catchy song, all right.
Speaker 1: So let's kind of look at this trailer. We'll kind
Speaker 1: of stop at point, so like the witches run in general,
Speaker 1: so we see Agatha and the rest of the coven
Speaker 1: kind of sing this song as they start going out.
Speaker 1: Blue light is seen the door, the same shade at
Speaker 1: the back of the Witch's Road. So it's safe to
Speaker 1: assume that they when they sing the ballot of the
Speaker 1: Witch's Roads, to the end of the road, a magical realm,
Speaker 1: what will reward you if you pass the trials?
Speaker 2: Supposed to reward you with like your greatest desire yep.
Speaker 1: So they're kind of seeing exactly going back and forth
Speaker 1: through things.
Speaker 2: We've seen a little bit of WandaVision footage yep, reminding
Speaker 2: you where she comes from. Hey, remember that show you
Speaker 2: were obsessed over continuation.
Speaker 1: Yep, So again kind of using that kind of television,
Speaker 1: going back and forth through WandaVision.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Back in the back and the morgue, and we see
Speaker 1: that on October thirteenth. All right, so the Westview sign,
Speaker 1: the population of west Row now reads two thy two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one, a big decrease from what it was.
Speaker 1: I had to go back and look this up three
Speaker 1: eight hundred and twenty two. So we've got a lot
Speaker 1: of people leaving Westview. I wonder, I'm sure people.
Speaker 2: I'm sure a good joke of them left after coming
Speaker 2: out of the hecks and they're like, I'm done with this,
Speaker 2: I'm out. How many people saw Wanda put out of
Speaker 2: the back under like her individual spell. They don't want
Speaker 2: to be there when Wanda comes back, right, I mean
Speaker 2: they don't know that Wanda's you know, quote unquote dad, right,
Speaker 2: they don't know about the events and doctors changing the multiverse, amnas.
Speaker 2: I That alone is to me enough of a reason
Speaker 2: for them to get out of town.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you get introduced to some of our witches.
Speaker 1: So she's getting ready to head to the road. Into
Speaker 1: the basement they go and we get our you know,
Speaker 1: relook at Abu Plaza's Rio. Rio's initially not with the coven.
Speaker 1: If you pay close attention this, this trailer reveals that
Speaker 1: she crawls out of the ground. This is interesting because
Speaker 1: the trailer is strongly suggests that you need a coven
Speaker 1: to enter Witch's Road. My question is, is Rio Vidal
Speaker 1: an exception to that rule?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean there there. I guess it's a question
Speaker 2: of do you need that to get started on the
Speaker 2: Witch's Road or to cross the barrier or the presumed
Speaker 2: barrier to reach the end. So, but at this point
Speaker 2: it certainly seems like she joins Agatha's covenant.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Another subtle thing that I kind of caught on
Speaker 1: a rewatch of the trailer, there's a spider on her shoulder.
Speaker 1: The spider moves and become more visible. Given Rio's apparent
Speaker 1: strong connection with nature, it's possible the spider could be
Speaker 1: her pet familiar, kind of like agathas who Agath has
Speaker 1: senior Scratchy who makes it a reappearance in this I
Speaker 1: really do think that Rio is gonna be the big
Speaker 1: antagonist for this this group, and.
Speaker 2: I think she'll also be like the breakout character, or
Speaker 2: at least has the greatest opportunity to be.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, all right. You gotta love these kind of
Speaker 1: playing with the homages of the different witches archetypes. You know,
Speaker 1: you get Agatha as the Wicked Witch of the West
Speaker 1: pictured here. The Carl Duru is Glinda, the good witch,
Speaker 1: and if her Kale is the evil witch. Agatha along
Speaker 1: appears to be drawn from a lot of fairy tale miss.
Speaker 2: I've seen some references that we're gonna see different in
Speaker 2: different episodes, different like inspirations, not unlike I wanna vision.
Speaker 1: Did there we get possessed Agatha? You know, the spider
Speaker 1: walk scene reminiscent of the Exorcists. Then there you go
Speaker 1: another you know, a lot of like spooky supernatural horror
Speaker 1: homages as well.
Speaker 2: So creepy that shot where she's like our back looks
Speaker 2: broken as she's been over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd see the you know kind of you very
Speaker 1: kind of seventies look. You can see. You get a
Speaker 1: lot of like hourglasses and watches in this trailer. You know,
Speaker 1: the President of Time indicates like the hourglass and the
Speaker 1: watch is seen. It's just that time is going to
Speaker 1: play a very crucial role in this, like time is
Speaker 1: running out.
Speaker 2: Yea, So.
Speaker 1: Darkness darkness takes all a very interesting play of words.
Speaker 1: You know, they definitely are playing up kind of this
Speaker 1: being trying to play up that Disney d Disney plus
Speaker 1: like maybe their version Memci's version of horror. You know,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's going to go as hard
Speaker 1: as World by Night. I still think no.
Speaker 2: I think you're right there. But it feels like it'll
Speaker 2: be fitting for Halloween time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you get this came out broach with a
Speaker 1: hair inside. It was previously revealed that Agatha would have
Speaker 1: a different brooch in this series. The new trailer reveals
Speaker 1: that Agatha discovers a new brooch at the crime scene
Speaker 1: where she finds what appears to be wanting maxim Off's body.
Speaker 1: The brooch contains a brown strand of hair. Who could
Speaker 1: it be? Whose hair? Could that be? Brent?
Speaker 2: Brown strand of hair? And the brooch? I mean, well,
Speaker 2: I guess her own, Wanda's isn't Red Billy's. Maybe, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Who are you thinking?
Speaker 1: I have no idea, I have no clue. People coming
Speaker 1: out of the ground, A lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: people coming out of the ground. Oh look, hey, fit's
Speaker 1: still confirmed, right, yeah, exactly, Ali stands before that's Ali
Speaker 1: stand before demon in golfed in flames. It's hard to
Speaker 1: tell whether the demon is composed of fire, basically being
Speaker 1: consumed by it. We also get some look at the
Speaker 1: Witch Trials as well, so you know Agatha along, you
Speaker 1: know still premiering. Was it September eighteenth, two episode premiere?
Speaker 2: That sounds right, so.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm interested. This trailer has done nothing to change
Speaker 1: my opinion right now the show that I'll obviously we'll
Speaker 1: watch it because for you the people. I don't think
Speaker 1: this is going to be a low point for Disney Plus,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's going to be it. I
Speaker 1: wanted to move to Neil, but I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to do much.
Speaker 2: I think it's I don't know. For me, it definitely
Speaker 2: moved the needle towards a more hut okay position. I
Speaker 2: really really enjoyed this trailer, and I came away from
Speaker 2: it thinking it's not a slam dunk like people are
Speaker 2: gonna like hit Wanda levels of phenomenon. They're not. That's
Speaker 2: not that may never happen again as far as well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but even that's probably not a mystery box show the
Speaker 2: way Juana Vision was. But I mean, who knows it
Speaker 2: might be. But I do feel like this has the
Speaker 2: potential to really be a popular one, to be a
Speaker 2: bigger show and be one of those things that by
Speaker 2: the time you get to week three, week four, people
Speaker 2: are saying, you need to catch up on this. It's
Speaker 2: quite the ride. The potential I think is there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I think there is potential. I just
Speaker 1: don't it. I was just wondering, why would they just
Speaker 1: release another new trailer, like that's very rare for them
Speaker 1: to do that. I get it was d twenty three,
Speaker 1: but they released the first trailer before s DCC. I
Speaker 1: don't think there was any reason to put it out there.
Speaker 1: If anything, they should have just done them singing to
Speaker 1: promote it and then move on another trailer.
Speaker 2: I don't know is that it is weird to have
Speaker 2: two trailers so close together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see again right now. I'm glad you're
Speaker 1: more excited about I'm kind of lukewarm on it right now,
Speaker 1: but hey, you know, I want everything to be successful
Speaker 1: as much as they can and bring more attention to this.
Speaker 1: So all right, we got two more things to kind
Speaker 1: of discussed from the Marvel studio. Is part of the
Speaker 1: panel iron Heart, Remember that show, Brent.
Speaker 2: You know, I think we might actually see it next year.
Speaker 1: They did have a trailer put in there, which you know,
Speaker 1: the last time we heard about Ironheart when it was
Speaker 1: delayed and that there would be some big reshoots coming
Speaker 1: for it. So one of the reasons, besides the strike
Speaker 1: that they had delayed it was that they the rumor
Speaker 1: was to premiere it closer to that lovely fake movie,
Speaker 1: as mister Sell calls it, Armor Wars.
Speaker 2: I still feel like this could lead.
Speaker 1: To that, but that's the rumor at that point.
Speaker 2: By the time, you would think at some point that
Speaker 2: movie would need to be in production four a time.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe. Uh So they did show footage
Speaker 1: of so Ryan Couger and the cast find Her came
Speaker 1: on stage. They showed the footage of the series first
Speaker 1: trailer began with re reflying through the sky in her suit.
Speaker 1: The footage also shows her life at MIT after the
Speaker 1: eventsible Conda Forever. She should be stuck and desperate to
Speaker 1: rebuild her suit. I almost think, like I believe she's
Speaker 1: also kicked out of MIT too.
Speaker 2: Yes, she was. She was expelled or whatever the red
Speaker 2: terminology is.
Speaker 1: They probably for using the university resources for it was.
Speaker 2: The same I don't remember his name, but like the
Speaker 2: same teacher, the same guy who has appeared in had
Speaker 2: a cameo on Captain America's Civil War asking Stark if
Speaker 2: the grant would flight a staff as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she tried to find cash for a defund
Speaker 1: of projects. She seems up with Anthony Ramos's character The
Speaker 1: Hood to sneak into various warehouses and labs to find
Speaker 1: resources that are necessary. Ramas's character ends up turning evil
Speaker 1: and is shown in a suit in a red cape,
Speaker 1: hence the name The Hood. The last shot of the
Speaker 1: trailer shows the suit flying and re Re and her
Speaker 1: suiting up in visuals reminiscent from Iron Man movies as
Speaker 1: she flips a truck into the street and the trailer ends.
Speaker 1: Now here's my question to you. In the comics, re
Speaker 1: Rey has an AI of Tony Stark. Are we gonna
Speaker 1: get that AI?
Speaker 2: I don't think we will at first, But I mean
Speaker 2: it's not impossible, especially because I mean Rdij is back,
Speaker 2: like we know he's back, so it could be something,
Speaker 2: and that's something they could do pretty easy without people
Speaker 2: knowing about it, especially since publicly he's back as as
Speaker 2: doctor Doom. But I just I don't feel like we're
Speaker 2: going to yet. Maybe eventually and Heart will have that.
Speaker 2: I would even enjoy it if they did. I just
Speaker 2: I'm not entirely convinced will see it yet. I would
Speaker 2: love to be wrong though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those things that I don't think
Speaker 1: it's entirely necessary right now, because you know, we we don't.
Speaker 1: We know a little bit about re read from willcon Ifever,
Speaker 1: but not a lot. So they really they have to
Speaker 1: re establish kind of her and her story for this.
Speaker 1: This I am interested in because I'm a big Iron
Speaker 1: Man fan. I love the Williams character from the comics. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a great character, and I am I'm more excited
Speaker 1: about this in Agatha all along. So I'm one of
Speaker 1: the weird ones that's that was on last Friday night's
Speaker 1: stream and it was just like, yeah, I'm actually pretty excited.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it hits all the buttons for
Speaker 1: me right now.
Speaker 2: I don't see anything weird about it.
Speaker 1: Yep. All right, So were they they ended with what
Speaker 1: we were hoping we were going to get. We heard
Speaker 1: a lot of rumors. We heard we were going to
Speaker 1: get our first look of it. It was never it
Speaker 1: has not been officially released. It's a shame it hasn't.
Speaker 1: But dare Devil Born Again came out in full force. Brent,
Speaker 1: Yes it did.
Speaker 2: And just seeing you know, all of them back on
Speaker 2: stage together, like the Kingpen and Matt Murdoch compunished.
Speaker 1: Including friend of the show John Berthall.
Speaker 2: Friend of the show. That feels like a bit much,
Speaker 2: But yes, I loved all the people saying he confirmed it,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yes, we got. We got a lot
Speaker 2: of credit on the stream on Friday forgetting that because
Speaker 2: I'm sure he told lots of people he was definitely
Speaker 2: in it. There were so many step photos like.
Speaker 1: But he told you, he told us that marble lines.
Speaker 2: He did. He did flat out tell me yes, and
Speaker 2: that you can't take that away from me, That's for certain.
Speaker 2: But it was just so fun to see them together again,
Speaker 2: like on stage publicly in a way that was meant
Speaker 2: to be seen publicly. Yes.
Speaker 1: Uh So they discussed the series. They describe it as
Speaker 1: being kept in a similar tone to the Netflix series,
Speaker 1: which we've also heard due to the post strike rewrites.
Speaker 1: Graffiti art of both Daredevil and Kingpin was displayed before
Speaker 1: the exclusive footage of the series teaser begins with Matt
Speaker 1: Murdoch visiting White Tiger in prison. You know Unfortunately, the
Speaker 1: actor who played White Tiger has passed away due to cancer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not going to get us see the reaction,
Speaker 2: which is, you know, really disappointing for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those where we glad we get
Speaker 1: to see it, but we hope exactly that, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever happens to the character, it we get some good
Speaker 1: finality of it. So I'm of all the things to
Speaker 1: possibly be your last one, why not be in Daredevil?
Speaker 2: You know, sure, absolutely so.
Speaker 1: Uh so we get the White Tiger costume is shown.
Speaker 1: The character of White Tiger tells Matt we need a
Speaker 1: hero since Kingping is rising in power and influence in
Speaker 1: New York. But it also shows Frank Castle as the
Speaker 1: Punisher confronting Matt Murdoch and very short snippets of action footage.
Speaker 1: Matt is seemingly overwhelmed by this grab of power through
Speaker 1: mayoral candidacy. The footage ends with Matt, Murdoch, and Wilson
Speaker 1: talking and in Dinah, which is I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of the movie Heat. This is very reminiscent of that
Speaker 1: of Robert De Niro and al Pacino for the very
Speaker 1: first time ever in their entire career. Is being on
Speaker 1: the same set, but just them sitting down in this diner.
Speaker 1: Fisk asking Murdoch if the warning about this rise to
Speaker 1: power that Matt says, if you step out a line
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I will take you down and I
Speaker 1: will be there. He says, is that coming from you,
Speaker 1: Matt Murdoch or from your darker half? And he has
Speaker 1: this very sinister laugh. We also do get a scene
Speaker 1: where we see like four or five or five or
Speaker 1: six different color helmets that shot.
Speaker 2: So many questions are we gonna get see the suits
Speaker 2: at some point? Like why why does he have them all?
Speaker 2: Like we've seen one of them right at the yellow
Speaker 2: suits there from from she Hulk. Okay, that's accounted for,
Speaker 2: and you know, basically his red suit.
Speaker 1: But it's like we had shadow Lands as well, like where.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like give me the shadow Lands suit, show me
Speaker 2: that stuff, Like I want to see all the suits,
Speaker 2: every one of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we already saw yellow. So and we get with
Speaker 1: Matt fighting in civilian clothes. We also get it looks
Speaker 1: like Kamala Khan's father is in this two very different
Speaker 1: parts weird, very strange, just more so real life, is
Speaker 1: that he has been accused and is being brought up
Speaker 1: on charges of sexual assault. And I'm one of these things.
Speaker 2: One of the full on assault. I mean I realized,
Speaker 2: but like I tried to fight.
Speaker 1: There the harassment ourselves one of.
Speaker 2: The two, definitely harassment and grooming.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if okay, as far as the assault was,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I will stand corrected, but you are
Speaker 1: right on the harassment either way. It's like why why,
Speaker 1: Like like.
Speaker 2: If if they're doing a Miss Marvel season two, I
Speaker 2: kind of get why you'd still use them. I don't
Speaker 2: really get at this point why you would bring them
Speaker 2: in to their devil. There's gotta be a good rule
Speaker 2: or in this trailer or in the trailer. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess there could have been.
Speaker 1: There could have been other scenes. I know, like everyone
Speaker 1: everyone was like saying, why is he there? Like not
Speaker 1: a good not in a good way, questioning, Well, if.
Speaker 2: You do it in the trailer, the news breaks and
Speaker 2: the questioning breaks predominantly now instead of in March or
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five when it releases. Maybe that's why. But
Speaker 2: why put themselves in that position to begin with?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. There's definitely gonna be questions about that,
Speaker 1: but he does ask that what kind of lawyer is he?
Speaker 1: As he's walking away, he says, A really good.
Speaker 2: One, really good one.
Speaker 1: Where we heard that, where we heard that's a little
Speaker 1: movie called No Way Home. So I must have seen
Speaker 1: watched this trailer in different leaked ways a lot, a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot, so much so that I said, we need
Speaker 1: to download this so we can have this so that
Speaker 1: we can watch it and not have to lose it
Speaker 1: until we get the actual official released.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and downloading videos of Twitter is harder than it
Speaker 2: used to be, but thankfully we were able to find
Speaker 2: out on TikTok and at least get it, get it there.
Speaker 2: I love seeing I mean again, we knew he was back,
Speaker 2: but I love seeing point exter right, that's great. You
Speaker 2: know he's never named Bullseye in the first aired Devil series,
Speaker 2: right right, but hopefully, hopefully we're going to see him
Speaker 2: pull up pullr Scott right right, take up that Daredevil
Speaker 2: name or that that Bullseye name and Daredevil born again.
Speaker 2: Just so much about this and that action at the
Speaker 2: end looked amazing, And some of the articles that I
Speaker 2: read they talked about how this is absolutely a continuation
Speaker 2: of the previous version of the show. You don't necessarily
Speaker 2: have to have seen it. And there has been obviously
Speaker 2: time jump because there's been time since the last one.
Speaker 2: But those events happened, like I think it was Deborah Wall,
Speaker 2: who plays Karen, who said, like those events from the
Speaker 2: first three seasons of Daredevil happened in the past of
Speaker 2: this show.
Speaker 1: And let me say this, I'm so happy for her
Speaker 1: and focking and like she per in particular, she has
Speaker 1: been like kind of waiting the wings when the first
Speaker 1: iteration of this, she wasn't even gonna be in it,
Speaker 1: like Peard. I don't think she was ever brought in
Speaker 1: into the fold of the first iteration of the attempt
Speaker 1: at this no, like they.
Speaker 2: And it was huge, just such a huge own goal
Speaker 2: if they were going to do that. I'm so the
Speaker 2: strike had so many negative things that came out of it,
Speaker 2: but one, at least one positive was it gave them
Speaker 2: time to really look at what they had and to decide,
Speaker 2: we're not doing it right. We need to do this better.
Speaker 2: We deserve to do it better, the fans deserve better,
Speaker 2: the character deserves better. If we want to keep it
Speaker 2: the same version, let's just definitively canonize the Netflix stuff.
Speaker 2: And I love that they were going, that they went
Speaker 2: that far and that they did that and they brought
Speaker 2: those characters back. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so all right, so we're gonna close out this
Speaker 1: and with our first ad break before we get into
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Speaker 1: right back and we are back. So one thing all
Speaker 1: we did get from, like you said, the date of
Speaker 1: Daredevil is March twenty twenty five or so, Happy birthday
Speaker 1: to me. Yes, very much so, so I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: very excited for that. And I think we did get
Speaker 1: confirmation also that season two is happening. Uh, it is
Speaker 1: not going to start filming until next year, though I've
Speaker 1: heard I heard a conflicting thing. I the I read
Speaker 1: I heard when we were talking about it last Friday night,
Speaker 1: someone was saying, like, it's filming like in the next
Speaker 1: month or so. Then I read I can't remember what
Speaker 1: one what Variety or a Hollywood reporter saying next year
Speaker 1: early next year.
Speaker 2: So it could be a different project, but Charlie Cox
Speaker 2: recently had to drop out of a convention appearance because
Speaker 2: of his filming schedule. Could be a completely unrelated project,
Speaker 2: but could be that. When I read that, I thought, well,
Speaker 2: are they going into their Devil season two already? So
Speaker 2: there's not a massive delay between seasons or you know,
Speaker 2: the crossover loving person in me is like, is he
Speaker 2: gonna appear somewhere else? Is he gonna do something else?
Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying he's going to show up in
Speaker 2: a Brave New World or anything like that, but he
Speaker 2: could show up somewhere and so maybe I don't know,
Speaker 2: but either way, he could also be doing a letely
Speaker 2: different nothing to do with Marvel projects.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll have to see. So we're a little
Speaker 1: bit sketchy in that, but we know season two is happening.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's some great news. So all right. So
Speaker 1: the next day, Saturday Afternoon Marvel and Mischipanel was hosted
Speaker 1: by Brandon Davis, who unfortunately released the news today that
Speaker 1: he is officially no longer employed by comicbook dot Com.
Speaker 1: So unfortunate for him, big fan of Brandon and I
Speaker 1: have no doubt that he will land on his feet,
Speaker 1: but I know him personally how long he's been with
Speaker 1: the company. They recently got sold to another company. He
Speaker 1: had talked about very honestly on the recent episode of
Speaker 1: Phase zero that he was in contract negotiation and hope
Speaker 1: they could come to agreement, but did say goodbye. It's
Speaker 1: justin caith had happened, and unfortunately he did say this
Speaker 1: morning that he is no longer there. So but with that,
Speaker 1: it is very interesting to see all the lovely anime
Speaker 1: that happened with this panel, starting off with what If?
Speaker 1: Season three?
Speaker 2: Final season?
Speaker 1: Yep, that was the first reveal it will be the
Speaker 1: final season of it, which is I get it, But
Speaker 1: what if is one of these concepts that it could
Speaker 1: have gone on forever. I could have legitimately gone on forever.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm disappointed that it's ending because I enjoyed season
Speaker 2: one overall, despite some of the complaints I had that
Speaker 2: each episode needed to be a few minutes longer. Season
Speaker 2: two I thought was a really nice improvement. It's like
Speaker 2: you're going You're moving the right direction. Overall, I'm a
Speaker 2: little disappointed at that at the same time. No, I'd
Speaker 2: rather they end it when they're ready to end it,
Speaker 2: then wait until it fizzles out because no one's watching it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to overstay. You're welcome, and remember
Speaker 1: I this season broke one of the things that Figy
Speaker 1: Kevin Feige had said about the show originally concept nothing,
Speaker 1: no new characters would be induced it within the show.
Speaker 1: This season broke it, and how so it's gonna look
Speaker 1: like this season is also going to break it. So
Speaker 1: they different alternative universe concepts that will be explored in
Speaker 1: the final season include Voltron, anime style episode introducing as
Speaker 1: an Avengers team led by Sam Wilson and consisting of Moonnight, Photon,
Speaker 1: Red Guardian, and more Pilot giant mecha suits in order
Speaker 1: to combat Gamma Monsters. It would also reveal that other
Speaker 1: episodes in the final season will explore characters like Moonnight, Ironheart,
Speaker 1: Hung Chi, and White Vision aka snow Vision.
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it, especially Hung Chi because Man,
Speaker 2: I'm one of those people who's really been wanting to
Speaker 2: see him again since that movie.
Speaker 1: I know, and I was hoping that we're gonna we
Speaker 1: were gonna learn something a STCC and am not a
Speaker 1: darn thing, And.
Speaker 2: I really thought, like I I thought it was in
Speaker 2: the bank we were. I'll learn something there, I know.
Speaker 1: I lost out on two predictions of overall, and then
Speaker 1: it went back to, oh darn, I got some other
Speaker 1: predictions right with this when I got one more to
Speaker 1: get to the end. And I'm not doing half bad
Speaker 1: in my predictions out of my five. So I lost
Speaker 1: out on two in two short weeks. But I'm still
Speaker 1: in the hunt. So so not much, not too much.
Speaker 1: They didn't really talk about too much of the footage
Speaker 1: from what If, but again, same kind of concepts. We
Speaker 1: still don't have a date. Do you think we're getting
Speaker 1: at this year?
Speaker 2: Man, that's tough. Eh, it wouldn't surprise me if it
Speaker 2: started this year. I don't know that it'll end this year,
Speaker 2: but yeah, why not, I'll say, yes, we're we're gonna
Speaker 2: get it this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like it. Do they do the same
Speaker 1: release schedule on the holidays?
Speaker 2: It seemed to be pretty popular last time.
Speaker 1: That depends what you talked to.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's all things I saw. For someone
Speaker 2: like me who I saw lots of good things about it.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed. It is just like someone who's trying to
Speaker 1: keep up in getting ready for a show and trying
Speaker 1: to stay ahead of the curves. Like it a little stressful,
Speaker 1: little stress.
Speaker 2: If they don't have a Christmas episode, then I think
Speaker 2: it's less likely.
Speaker 1: They do it that way. Okay, fair enough, I do
Speaker 1: think that there is a strong possibility, but they haven't.
Speaker 1: They didn't say when it was coming out, they didn't
Speaker 1: say year or anything. They just it exists. So next
Speaker 1: up the one of the brightest gems X to Deadpool
Speaker 1: Wolverine X Men ninety seven season two. So we knew
Speaker 1: season two was in in production and it's even before
Speaker 1: season one ever premiered, and that was thanks to voice
Speaker 1: actor who plays Wolverine releasing footage of him or photos
Speaker 1: of him recording dialogue for season two. So not much
Speaker 1: new footage was shown at the animation panel. However, they
Speaker 1: were brief slippets of the upcoming season. In the sizzle reel,
Speaker 1: footage revealed that the X Men would be wearing the
Speaker 1: Grant Morrison suits in the upcoming season, So we get
Speaker 1: these lovely bright costumes only to be brought in back
Speaker 1: to the Grant Morrison era.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really hope that's for like one episode. Now,
Speaker 2: I liked the Grant Morrison run on the X Men,
Speaker 2: which I know is the most popular thing to say overall.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: What what?
Speaker 2: I Yeah, Grant Morrison, right, I did not like you?
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, there are people who don't like that run. No,
Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean like you make it sound
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of people who don't like that run.
Speaker 2: I mean every single thing I've ever read of a
Speaker 2: Grant Morrison book, it seems it's just split down the middle, polarizing.
Speaker 2: You love it or you hate it, and I'm the
Speaker 2: same way.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right with that.
Speaker 2: I enjoy some of his work. I don't enjoy some
Speaker 2: of his work. I really don't enjoy some of it.
Speaker 2: I really do enjoy some of it.
Speaker 1: But regardless, how's your feelings on Superman Bred?
Speaker 2: Which one?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: The one I'm talking about, the Superman, the New fifty
Speaker 2: two Superman, the one of which my friend and I
Speaker 2: uses the basis for at least it's better than that
Speaker 2: because we hated it so much. I hated that book.
Speaker 2: That book sucked. The Grant Morrison X Men costumes not
Speaker 2: a big fan of I never was quite right, and
Speaker 2: honestly does it kind of ruin the joke of what
Speaker 2: did you expect black leather that Cyclobs said the cable.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, it was funny at the time. It
Speaker 2: doesn't ruin the joke, but I'm like, ah, it is.
Speaker 2: I hope it's just for an episode.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a little bit longer than episode,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I hope it's not the entire season
Speaker 1: for sure, because again they all disappeared in their costumes,
Speaker 1: so so we'll have to see at that point. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I was a huge fan of New x
Speaker 1: Men with Grant Morrison. Yes, you are right, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of division.
Speaker 2: With everything that Morrison does. His Batman run is excellent.
Speaker 1: For the record, I'm a student of history, all right.
Speaker 1: I don't deal in absolutes, and I'm not gonna go
Speaker 1: as far as everything Grant Morrison does is divisive, but
Speaker 1: I lean more towards the favor Sime of what they
Speaker 1: do and what And again I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: their X x Men New x Men run. So regardless,
Speaker 1: regardless we get characters returning it, some new we get Havoc,
Speaker 1: We're gonna get Havoc. We're gonna get Pullaris back, Bishops back,
Speaker 1: Apocalypse is back. And there was some misconception that first
Speaker 1: people said Warlock is coming back. They stand corrected. It
Speaker 1: was actually Danger is gonna make her first appearance in
Speaker 1: X Men ninety seven.
Speaker 2: I think that's super interesting. I kind of like that character.
Speaker 2: It's just like Dangers are own mutant, right, the Danger
Speaker 2: Room becoming sincient and that's cool, and Warlock's fine. We've
Speaker 2: seen Warlock. I don't really need more. We're going to leave.
Speaker 1: Warlock kind of like Bizarro, I'm good without the backwards, but.
Speaker 2: Like Danger, well, I to my knowledge, we've never seen
Speaker 2: Danger in any of the animation. If we have, I
Speaker 2: haven't seen it yet. We have not. I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to that. That'll be pretty cool. Yep uh.
Speaker 1: The brief snippets seemed to confirm that Wolverine did survive
Speaker 1: Magneto's attack on him at the end of the last season.
Speaker 1: Other than that, no new information was divulged. Bo Demeyo
Speaker 1: did tweet out regarding the costume change. He said, with
Speaker 1: all the costume changes, the decision was rooted in the
Speaker 1: story for me and themes in season two will explore
Speaker 1: Obviously these suits have a strong ties to Genosha and
Speaker 1: e is for Extinction, which was one of the arcs
Speaker 1: of Grant Morrison's run.
Speaker 2: Maybe we should consider some more Morrison x men at
Speaker 2: some point for comic.
Speaker 1: You don't, you don't have to, you don't have to
Speaker 1: sell sell me on that. I will always say, yes,
Speaker 1: I know what I will say. What I will say,
Speaker 1: going back to our discussion about that, what I will
Speaker 1: say is what is the really divisive about? It is
Speaker 1: not necessarily Grant Morrison's writing. It's either like Frank Quietly's art.
Speaker 1: Are you don't that?
Speaker 2: Yes, You're absolutely right enough that I think.
Speaker 1: Is at anything that is probably even more divisive. So
Speaker 1: in any case, let's move on to Eyes of Akanda.
Speaker 1: So we finally got new information about the upcoming series
Speaker 1: For Eyes of Akanda, the series will would be exploring
Speaker 1: new corners of the Marvel universe. More specifically, the mystical
Speaker 1: city of Kunlon and the culture of the Secret Society
Speaker 1: will be explorers, along with a new version of the
Speaker 1: Iron Fist would appear in the series, given that he
Speaker 1: is known as the defender of kun Lun in the comics.
Speaker 1: Ryan Coogler was at the presentation and spoke about the
Speaker 1: direction of the series and how the war Dogs are
Speaker 1: challenged with keeping Wakanda the secret, so we can go
Speaker 1: back and look at this sacrifice that people have made
Speaker 1: to that secret. A new character in the series, Noni,
Speaker 1: will act as a disruptor in Wakanda, trying to expose
Speaker 1: some of the country's corruption to the people of the
Speaker 1: Hidden Nation. You could expect Isaawa Kanda to be a
Speaker 1: nice companion piece to the Black Panther films. Moreover, the
Speaker 1: series delves into the history of its secret and inner
Speaker 1: and intersection of other locations such as kun Mun. The
Speaker 1: series is also going to be utilizing three D animation.
Speaker 1: Expect different time periods of Wakanda to be explored, almost
Speaker 1: like an anthology series. Isawakanda will also be cannon in
Speaker 1: the MC and I believe it is only going to
Speaker 1: be four episodes. I believe.
Speaker 2: I can't believe.
Speaker 1: I can yeah, four. I'm not sure if it was
Speaker 1: Kevin Faigie or Windebaum or someone had said that there
Speaker 1: is not going to be one set animation style for
Speaker 1: Marvel Animation. It is going to be the h Project
Speaker 1: will determine their own animation style yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that was when Obama who said they won't.
Speaker 1: Okay style yep, all right, and I believe they closed
Speaker 1: out with no, they didn't, well, they really closed out.
Speaker 1: The last part of it was just more of a oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, but the big kind of more ending
Speaker 1: to this was your Friendly Neighborhood spider Man originally titles
Speaker 1: spider Man Freshman Year. The series, introduced at the D
Speaker 1: twenty three panel, is about Spider Man that you know,
Speaker 1: but maybe not the one you expect, teasing a story
Speaker 1: that diverts from the one you fans saw on the
Speaker 1: MCU trilogy movies. The difference that it is expounded upon
Speaker 1: the panel with key difference between Peter Parker and the
Speaker 1: series and the one in the MCU being Peter's mentor,
Speaker 1: whereas you learned from Tony Stark and all his mistakes
Speaker 1: and morals in the movies. It's Norman Osborne who mentors
Speaker 1: Peter in the show, and Osbourne uses his methods and
Speaker 1: some and people find questionable. With that news, we now
Speaker 1: have our official first major casting of who is going
Speaker 1: to be doing the voice of Norman Osborn, and that
Speaker 1: will be Coleman Domingo. Oh my god, yes, at absolutely.
Speaker 2: That's really cool casting. That's a good that's a good
Speaker 2: gap for them for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great gat, excellent idea. You know, we'd heard rumors
Speaker 1: that a lot of times, we even talked about this show,
Speaker 1: that the possibility of a Kang replacement.
Speaker 2: It's been there's all this talk recently about how whether
Speaker 2: or not Marvel is allowed to reuse the villains that
Speaker 2: Sony used back in the day. I'm still not sure
Speaker 2: about that because the people who would be saying that
Speaker 2: would be Sony themselves, and if Marvel had the idea
Speaker 2: that they'd obviously go for it. But regardless, let's just
Speaker 2: hypothetically say they were going to do a live action
Speaker 2: Norman Osborne, I kind of would like the idea of
Speaker 2: Coleman Demingo having that part, Like I kind of kind
Speaker 2: of dig that idea. So I've saw a lot of
Speaker 2: people fancasting them after this news, and I think I'm
Speaker 2: with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no so all right, So they did
Speaker 1: show some footage and exclusive footage that was revealed. You
Speaker 1: do see that it had been an intro that was
Speaker 1: used with the classic Spider Man theme before it morphs
Speaker 1: into a modern rap song. The preview depicts Peter's first
Speaker 1: day a freshman year. His arrival at schools immediately interrupted
Speaker 1: by Doctor Strange fighting a monster that looks a lot
Speaker 1: like Venom. One of the strangest portals leads to a
Speaker 1: radioactive spider from the Venom Monsters universe landing on Peter
Speaker 1: and biting him as as he is meeting Nico Menru,
Speaker 1: a character for the from The Runaways comics. The animation
Speaker 1: style is very comic book inspired, with selling maation with
Speaker 1: shots split into comic panels that evoke the feeling of
Speaker 1: reading comic So this also got a little divisive when
Speaker 1: this was revealed that this is a multiversal spider that
Speaker 1: beats Peter.
Speaker 2: It's not even the first time that's happened before.
Speaker 1: No, it has not.
Speaker 2: See how it blaze out?
Speaker 1: Yeah. There was another scene shown from the series that
Speaker 1: takes place five months later, depicting Peter walking down the
Speaker 1: street and taking down street level thugs with his advanced tech.
Speaker 1: One of them is a boy who has metallic boosts
Speaker 1: that give him short bursts of speed. Excuse me, boots
Speaker 1: ta give him short bursts of speed. Another of them
Speaker 1: as a woman with cyber with a cyber blade Peter
Speaker 1: wearing a proto type suit similar to the one scene
Speaker 1: in Homecoming, but slightly different. It is struggling to fight
Speaker 1: the thugs. However, Norman Osborg wrings him on the colms
Speaker 1: and gives him an advice about how to stop the thugs.
Speaker 1: The footage highlights Norman's mentor relationship with Peter and the
Speaker 1: fatherly bond there that is developing.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: With Norman's advice, Peter stops the thugs and they gave
Speaker 1: And what they did show is this amazing collage of
Speaker 1: all the characters we will be seeing in this series,
Speaker 1: including a number of different suits.
Speaker 2: Yes, the suits. The suits are awesome. That one suit
Speaker 2: with the blue shirt, Like, I'm like, is that supposed
Speaker 2: to be Spider punk? Like it looks like there's a
Speaker 2: little yeah maybe I don't know. Maybe, Like at first
Speaker 2: that's what I thought, but I question it. The Future
Speaker 2: Foundation suit is next to it. I've always liked that one.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you do.
Speaker 2: I do. Not the classic Spider Man suit of course.
Speaker 2: And then some of the what were they called, like
Speaker 2: the era where he was pretending to be four other people. Ah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so the Slingers maybe, yeah, I've only read part of that.
Speaker 1: Story, and we got Daredevil. We already knew Daredevil is
Speaker 1: still gonna be voiced by Charlie Cox in a black
Speaker 1: and red suit, kind of homaging the Charles soul Run and.
Speaker 2: Iron Man, but like old school looking iron Man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's interesting that Tony Stark is still a presence
Speaker 2: in this universe. He's just not the one playing the
Speaker 2: mentor role for Peter.
Speaker 1: Yep, they could this be Luke Cage. Near the title,
Speaker 1: We've got Auto Octavius, Chameleon, Venom. Trying to see if
Speaker 1: anyone else I can quickly see. I want to say
Speaker 1: this one in the bottom left is the Beatle. I
Speaker 1: want to say Atom.
Speaker 2: No, well, I thought it was one of those like
Speaker 2: Slingers or whatever.
Speaker 1: Could be too. The costume kind of rings a little
Speaker 1: bit like the modification of it. Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: I need to find out who their names are.
Speaker 1: Then we get doctor Strange, we get a number of uh,
Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote powerless characters are going to be there,
Speaker 1: you know, MJ and some of the other Flash Thompson,
Speaker 1: some of the teachers. So but yeah, I'm very excited
Speaker 1: about the show.
Speaker 2: It's one of the Slingers who are led by Prodigy,
Speaker 2: and then there's dust horn It and Ricochet, who remembers
Speaker 2: as well. This one is.
Speaker 1: Hornet, Okay, Hornet, there are okay, and to the right of.
Speaker 2: The classic suit looks like wearing a cape I think
Speaker 2: was one of them as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, see if I can pull up these pictures. Well,
Speaker 1: very cool that they put it out there, though this is.
Speaker 2: It's different, but it kind of looks like Prodigy regardless.
Speaker 2: This artwork is beautiful. And I don't know what the
Speaker 2: Spider Man costume in the bottom right.
Speaker 1: Is from, so yeah, not sure either.
Speaker 2: See that, and it just I don't know. I'm into it.
Speaker 2: Multiversal Spider Okay, is it a regular spider? Is it
Speaker 2: a symbia spider? Conflicting reports on that. Either way, Let's
Speaker 2: see what they do with it, you know, let's see
Speaker 2: what they do with it.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm willing to give a shot. I had no
Speaker 1: problems with it. Again, a spider bite and a spider bite,
Speaker 1: let's just bring it on. So all right, what they
Speaker 1: did there. One more thing before they ended the panel
Speaker 1: was Marble Zombies. It is still a thing and it
Speaker 1: is still happening. The upcome Marble Zombies The Anna made
Speaker 1: series is described as being a hardcore tv M A series. Moreover,
Speaker 1: It'll be It was revealed to be a four episode event.
Speaker 1: We did hear rumors of that that was confirmed as well.
Speaker 1: Here's the footage that was shown. It shows beginning with
Speaker 1: shung Chi, Katie, and Jimmy Wu in the middle of
Speaker 1: the street fighting zombies. They begin to get overrun until
Speaker 1: the Mandarin shows up and starts fighting the zombies with
Speaker 1: the ten rings. A particular standout moment akin to Attack
Speaker 1: on Titan, is a Kaiju like zombie that the manner
Speaker 1: And kills by throwing the rings at the center of
Speaker 1: its forehead in a bloody sequence. The manner And tells
Speaker 1: hug Chi to leave the villians and run with him,
Speaker 1: until shang Chi is bitten by one of the zombies.
Speaker 1: The virus begins to progress up his arm. The Mandarin
Speaker 1: sacrifices himself by transferring the rings to shug Chi, who
Speaker 1: is then taken by the death Dealer he picks up
Speaker 1: that He picks them up in a helicopter before the
Speaker 1: scene ends. Footage cuts to five years later with shug
Speaker 1: Chi and the same group of characters in the waste
Speaker 1: Land and vehicles that look like something out of from
Speaker 1: mad Man. They're being chased by the skull by a
Speaker 1: skull biker gang, a scroll biker gang, excuse me, and
Speaker 1: the footage highlights the action set piece as they fight
Speaker 1: the Scrolls with the Ten Rings. It's more lighthearted set
Speaker 1: piece set to the song Lights by Journey, with them
Speaker 1: taking scroll Bikers out while Jimmy wou sings along with
Speaker 1: the song. Unfortunately, the series was announced as not coming
Speaker 1: out for a while, so this was definitely going to
Speaker 1: be at the very earliest sometime next year.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about twenty minutes before this section of
Speaker 2: the panels started, when is the last time we heard
Speaker 2: anything about Marvel Zombies? Is it still happening? And yeah,
Speaker 2: looks like it is. The footage again, we didn't get
Speaker 2: to see it, even a leaked one, but it sounds cool.
Speaker 2: I like the idea of shung Chi getting a bite
Speaker 2: and then being given the ten Rings themselves to hold
Speaker 2: that off. Sounds cool. You know, not much else to
Speaker 2: say about it, but again, I'll take more.
Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, yeah, so yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I'm down for this again. In their first tv M,
Speaker 1: a animated series under the mcu era, so we will
Speaker 1: at least Cannon mcu so we will definitely be checking
Speaker 1: that out whenever they decide to finally drop it.
Speaker 2: Oh and I do I do want to say for
Speaker 2: both Isaawa Kanda and this being four episodes, glad they're
Speaker 2: messing with the episode account, like, don't push it if
Speaker 2: you don't need a four episode sellsher story.
Speaker 1: That's fine with me, yep, I just want it enough
Speaker 1: to make sense and tell the story. I agree. So
Speaker 1: all right, so we're gonna take our final ad break
Speaker 1: before we get into feedback factor fiction and kind of
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Speaker 1: be right back and we are back, all right, Brent,
Speaker 1: So let me pull any questions this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a trio of questions from Jim Scroggs. Actually,
Speaker 2: all right, and if there were any others, sorry I
Speaker 2: missed him. I when the last time I checked it
Speaker 2: in see me. But let's start with Jim his first one.
Speaker 2: Do you think Marvel Studios will give Deadpools Peter a
Speaker 2: last name? Peterpool's he getting the last name? Is that
Speaker 2: Peter is the Peter from Deadpool going to be given
Speaker 2: a last name? Uh?
Speaker 1: Sure, why not?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the other side and say no, I
Speaker 2: don't think. I don't think he'll get one. He'll just
Speaker 2: be called Peter or Peter.
Speaker 1: Pool, Peter Pool with a Peter Tingle.
Speaker 2: That's different. Is the next question? Who gets left on
Speaker 2: the sidelines for Doomsday and Secret Wars? Since they have
Speaker 2: been there have been so many characters introduced in this phase.
Speaker 1: Left them the sideline.
Speaker 2: Well, remember, I don't remember if it was Figy or
Speaker 2: someone else, but someone around San Diego said, not every
Speaker 2: I think it was Figgy. Not every character that's been
Speaker 2: introduced and that they have is going to be able
Speaker 2: to appear in these movies because they just have too
Speaker 2: many characters. The Eternals see, I think we'll see one
Speaker 2: or two of them, I do, okay, just not in
Speaker 2: their own show. One or two of them I think
Speaker 2: will show up. They'll honor the Eternals, will return thing,
Speaker 2: and that's how they'll get away with it. Who else
Speaker 2: realistically is going to put get put on the sidelines.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess some of the Disney Plus
Speaker 2: characters not all. Like Miss Marvel, she'll be there, I
Speaker 2: don't think she'll I think she'll show up there. But
Speaker 2: John Walker, he's not going to be there.
Speaker 1: You don't need him, is not needed.
Speaker 2: That won't be there. Now, I would be pretty surprised
Speaker 2: with that. Moon Night. What do you think about Moon Night?
Speaker 2: I feel like that's more of a challenge.
Speaker 1: I think it's a challenge, But I think if we
Speaker 1: get a season two of Moon Night, that's that's that
Speaker 1: becomes more on the table. But I think that it
Speaker 1: there is a stronger possibility if nothing else happens with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I think I season two, if there's a sea,
Speaker 2: I'm with you, season two means he's likely to get there.
Speaker 2: I probably feel the same way about she Hulk. Without
Speaker 2: a season two, I wouldn't be surprised to have her
Speaker 2: pop up somewhere.
Speaker 1: But I'll know who's not there, Scar, Scar's not there.
Speaker 2: Scar Gosh. I hope he has a different look if
Speaker 2: he does.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: That was a rough one. I think, well, we'll hold
Speaker 2: off on one of them. I was gonna say, because
Speaker 2: it's actually no, it's okay, we can say. I think
Speaker 2: Daredevil will make it. I don't know, Neice, Like, I
Speaker 2: don't know that the Punisher will, but I think Daredevil
Speaker 2: will probably maybe it's a little witch casting. Somebody from
Speaker 2: like the street level stuff will be represented. He is
Speaker 2: the biggest character.
Speaker 1: And foot media and the chat. He has just gotten
Speaker 1: back from seeing Alien that is me tomorrow night. There
Speaker 1: you go, very excited about it. Thanks for joining us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's probably a lot of side characters that we don't
Speaker 1: But I think that that's kind of a good question.
Speaker 2: Good question, Jean Foster. She is so she'd come back,
Speaker 2: Sure she is. She has said she would come back.
Speaker 1: Well, we all say we're going to come back because
Speaker 1: who doesn't want to paycheck?
Speaker 2: Well, that's true, I bet, I bet. Like I'm thinking
Speaker 2: Secret Wars had like that world of all the different
Speaker 2: thors and stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if she came back.
Speaker 2: But all right, last question. Man Valani has pushed back
Speaker 2: on what the sacred timeline Earth being called six one
Speaker 2: six does the reset after Secret Wars go back to Earth? No, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: it basically I think FIGI who is saying that six
Speaker 2: one six represents like the primary universe for the medium.
Speaker 1: That's what I think I'm saying, Yeah, that's what. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with that, so it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I really have any personal opinions
Speaker 2: I care that much about it either way, but I
Speaker 2: do enjoy the little friendly back and forth between Figi
Speaker 2: and Villania.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course, well thank you Jim for sending
Speaker 1: those in Factor of fiction. So for a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago from mister Hines, Number one Tamal Holland Spider
Speaker 1: Man will be the anchor being for sixty one six universe.
Speaker 1: Sixty percent said Fact. Forty percent said fiction, I was
Speaker 1: a fiction on that exprint.
Speaker 2: Fiction, all right, Sony's character is not going to be
Speaker 2: the anchor being for the MCU.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Number two Miles Teller will appear as read Richard's again.
Speaker 1: Twenty six percent said Fact. Seventy four percent in fiction,
Speaker 1: I was fiction, what say you?
Speaker 2: Fiction? I kind of hope they do Michael B. Jordan
Speaker 2: and repeat the human towards Shroke.
Speaker 1: Such a classic. Number three Galactus will have no variance,
Speaker 1: just like America Chavez. Eighty percent said Fact, twenty percent
Speaker 1: at fiction. I believe I was a fact on this.
Speaker 2: I think it's a fact because I actually thought I
Speaker 2: read that somewhere. Oh like I thought, I thought that
Speaker 2: came out around Comic Con. So I'm going fact on this.
Speaker 1: Jessicat Alba will return as Sue Storm. Forty seven percent
Speaker 1: said fact, fifty three percent said fiction. I said fact.
Speaker 2: Why not? We can fact that one.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I have no problems with Jessica Alba returning in
Speaker 1: that role.
Speaker 2: Who would?
Speaker 1: Yes? So this was our submission from Anthony. Similar to
Speaker 1: Spider Man Home Trilogy, the Fantastic Four trilogy will be
Speaker 1: the Steps trilogy, with the first movie being First Steps,
Speaker 1: in the sequels being Next Steps and Final Steps. And
Speaker 1: he did say he was he was meeting this as
Speaker 1: a joke, but still just wanted to put it out there.
Speaker 1: Fifty to fifty split did not see that coming.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I was fiction as well. I did
Speaker 2: not vote on the poll. For the record, I don't normally,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna say fiction and break that tie, all right,
Speaker 2: And mainly because I would prefer it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Yes, I would prefer first Family.
Speaker 2: I like Julio up in the chat earlier, so they
Speaker 2: could have called it first Launch.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, that's better.
Speaker 2: First first family is though that the man's right there.
Speaker 1: It was right there, right there. They had it, and
Speaker 1: they just they had had it in the palm of
Speaker 1: their hand, Brent, palm of their hand like tritium, however, the.
Speaker 2: Sun palm of their hand.
Speaker 1: All right, here turn this week, Brent, what you got
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 2: First up, She Hulk will be either seen or referenced
Speaker 2: in Captain America Brave New World related to her blood
Speaker 2: being taken during her series.
Speaker 1: I'm a fact, not a strong fact, though.
Speaker 2: I'm in fact, and I think it's more likely to
Speaker 2: be referenced. Yeah, I think it's likely to Ross was
Speaker 2: behind that. I'll acknowledge she could be seen, but I
Speaker 2: think it's more likely referenced. Okay, mixed up. In Thunderbolts,
Speaker 2: Red Guardian will try to talk to Bucky as though
Speaker 2: they have a history, the same way he claimed to
Speaker 2: have had a history with Captain America in the Black
Speaker 2: Widow movie.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, I hope.
Speaker 2: So this is me putting it out there. I want
Speaker 2: to see it, and I want Bucky to refute them
Speaker 2: and say no, so I'm going fact, do you hear yourself?
Speaker 2: Do you believe yourself? So, and then finally Harrison Ford
Speaker 2: as President Ross will tell Captain America to get off
Speaker 2: my plane.
Speaker 1: I would like some I think there's gonna be some
Speaker 1: sort of reference to that. I think there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a tongue in cheek reference that. So I'll say, fact,
Speaker 1: all right, fact it is so all right, So I
Speaker 1: will post so Sunday afternoon. Let your voices be heard
Speaker 1: with that. And so Bren and I have been kind
Speaker 1: of you know, we've been holding back on Compoo Club.
Speaker 1: So we do promise we were laying this out to
Speaker 1: the listeners that next week we will tell you our
Speaker 1: chosen theme and the choices for that theme. So we
Speaker 1: have taken our extended break. We are ready to come
Speaker 1: back from compook Club vacation and we will reveal you
Speaker 1: all the theme and the choices that you all the
Speaker 1: listeners can vote on on the socials. So be prepared
Speaker 1: for that full transparency. Bunch and I have not decided yet.
Speaker 2: So no, I've pulled around a couple ideas. But now
Speaker 2: we'll we'll wait. You know, we got a week, so
Speaker 2: we'll decide on Saturday.
Speaker 1: We want Oh, we're putting a date on it, all right?
Speaker 2: Oh no, my day's wrong. Well, we'll decide on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: That's usually how we do it. Like the day before
Speaker 2: we'll finalize it.
Speaker 1: It'll be to be like, hey, we need to make
Speaker 1: a decision. How about this?
Speaker 2: Yep, We'll we'll pick four books that we are have
Speaker 2: some at least some interest in reading all of them
Speaker 2: for it, and then we'll be happy with whatever the
Speaker 2: final vote is, I know.
Speaker 1: And one of them will be more than likely.
Speaker 2: One more day, right, and the probably not brand new days.
Speaker 2: It's it's almost it's almost like we rig it to
Speaker 2: make sure we're going to at least like any of
Speaker 2: the options.
Speaker 1: Yes, we need to have some sort of passive interest.
Speaker 1: So all right, Well that brings Volume two twenty five
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Speaker 1: All right, Brent. People will probably watching this episode and saying,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, you said you'd be talking about Craven.
Speaker 1: You said you'd be talking about Craven. I said we would.
Speaker 1: I didn't lie about that. It's just relegated to where
Speaker 1: it needs to be in the show, the back end.
Speaker 2: It just didn't feel right to put it with all
Speaker 2: the D twenty three news.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel to get put it with quality at
Speaker 1: that point. So we're gonna do a breakdown now, not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I have made no allusion to the fact
Speaker 1: that I'm not excited about this movie. I would put
Speaker 1: it right now just on the trailer alone. This is
Speaker 1: not as big, probably of a dumpster fire that Madam
Speaker 1: Webb became. But it's not too far outside the realm.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's got be a believer, man. It might get there.
Speaker 2: It might be every bit.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it could be at that point. But this
Speaker 1: has a better action than I got in Madam Webb.
Speaker 2: It does this. The action in this looks matter, and
Speaker 2: I will go ahead and say this, unlike the ag
Speaker 2: of the pack of the trailer, this did not move
Speaker 2: the needle for me really either direction. I'm just more
Speaker 2: apathetic towards it. There's like one little blip of that
Speaker 2: I saw. I was like, okay, I'm glad to see that,
Speaker 2: But that was about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so here we go. Let's put it up on there.
Speaker 1: So we get this view of prison and Aaron Taylor
Speaker 1: Johnson as Craven walking through, And that's saying the Hunter
Speaker 1: is a myth. His his chest playing buddy and whoops
Speaker 1: his butt pretty bad. There's an ounce in truth in
Speaker 1: every myth. Such amazing writing stabs him in the jugular
Speaker 1: that he that's gonna he will be coming back from
Speaker 1: that he escaped. So we get our first look also
Speaker 1: at the character Calypso yep so in associate with Marble.
Speaker 1: Let's keep that. Ope. There's Craven in his uh you know.
Speaker 2: In costume like in the in the comic book, and
Speaker 2: he looks pretty good.
Speaker 1: Credit words, Russell Crow drawn another paycheck from Marvel, from
Speaker 1: Marvel and Sony playing Craven's father, main antagonist for the film.
Speaker 1: Looks like they're trying to trap Craven. Now, this was
Speaker 1: a cool sequence, I will give it. Like again, this
Speaker 1: action is very first blood Rambo like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the action is cool like that, right, There
Speaker 2: is a pretty cool shot of Craven coming out of
Speaker 2: the darkness.
Speaker 1: Its just got to get the shot up without the shirt.
Speaker 2: Of course, we have another one of these Spider Man
Speaker 2: villain movies without Spider Man.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. And we got our first look at
Speaker 1: the character playing what we eventually become the Rhino, which
Speaker 1: I'd heard about today that the Rhino in the original
Speaker 1: cut of this movie was more of a tease at
Speaker 1: the end, and during the supposed reshoots of this they
Speaker 1: decided to up it two more of a bigger part
Speaker 1: in the movie.
Speaker 2: I'm glad they did.
Speaker 1: Because movie didn't have too much else going for it.
Speaker 2: It didn't. And you know, the Rhino is a character
Speaker 2: that we really we've gotten the one version of him
Speaker 2: and the amazing Spider Man two. Let's be honest, that
Speaker 2: wasn't the Rhino. That was a mech suit and the
Speaker 2: Rhino that we're gonna see here is more like the
Speaker 2: ultimate version where it's not just the suit but you
Speaker 2: see a human face. It's it's full blown. He's like
Speaker 2: a mutant, right, Like he's a rock Steady from Ninja Turtles,
Speaker 2: Like he's be calm a rhino.
Speaker 1: Yeah, literally become a rhino, at least says as a
Speaker 1: Johnny Cash fan. No yeah, I no, no, I I'm
Speaker 1: no Sony. Choose something else. This has no business being
Speaker 1: in this trailer. Absolutely not again some cool action beats here.
Speaker 1: Who knew that Craven again a k animal man. They
Speaker 1: didn't show that sequence again. They didn't show him basically
Speaker 1: uh becoming you know, getting the blood of the of
Speaker 1: the line in him and everything. Oh look, Captain America.
Speaker 1: They're stealing stuff from Captain America, grabbing the plane and
Speaker 1: pulling it down. Yeah, more action sequence again fired with missiles.
Speaker 1: I hope there he is sitting down at his throne.
Speaker 1: Going up there, we get our first look at Rhino.
Speaker 2: I actually I don't mind the look of him.
Speaker 1: I know, I mean it's it's it's as comic actor,
Speaker 1: as ridiculous as it should be.
Speaker 2: It could get it could use he could use a
Speaker 2: little polish, but overall I don't mind the look of him.
Speaker 2: So it's not I don't know. The trailer doesn't look
Speaker 2: like a total dumpster fire. It just doesn't look exciting
Speaker 2: to me either.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. At no point you could literally
Speaker 1: say this is any other name movie. It has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with anything as spider Man, Sony spider Man,
Speaker 1: like this could be any other This is a generic
Speaker 1: action movie. I will say this. I'll probably enjoy the
Speaker 1: action beats, the dialogue will more likely be atrocious, the
Speaker 1: story will be subpar at best. And this movie feels
Speaker 1: just out of place, completely out of place. And it's
Speaker 1: just again me scratching my head saying, what are we
Speaker 1: doing here, Sony? What are we doing here?
Speaker 2: If there wasn't a Marvel logo on it, we wouldn't
Speaker 2: do see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely no, I'd be like, I don't even know
Speaker 1: if i'd even like see it at that point, you know,
Speaker 1: and I know, I know that some people are really
Speaker 1: into it. And again I'm happy for you at that point. Again,
Speaker 1: we're gonna see it, we're gonna review it when it
Speaker 1: comes out, and it won't be I don't think we're
Speaker 1: gonna go for it. I will be more than happy
Speaker 1: to eat my words. I will not be embarrassed my words.
Speaker 1: I am with the whole idea that there is no
Speaker 1: way this movie is. I just don't see it doing
Speaker 1: well in the holiday season. I just don't at Whip
Speaker 1: Media says I've been bitten by a radioactive RHIGHTO.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: The the release time is bonkers and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have your whole family take it out to
Speaker 2: them see it over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: Like no, a rated R movie where you literally see
Speaker 1: Aaron Taylor Johnson's character biting people in rip.
Speaker 2: It comes out that weekend. There was some other family
Speaker 2: movie too, I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 1: Whatever the case is, Yeah, not hiding it, not not
Speaker 1: really interested in this.
Speaker 2: And if I didn't, oh, it's a linking MOFASA.
Speaker 1: Like you have.
Speaker 2: So you have a Lion King movie and Sonic the Hedgehog.
Speaker 1: Sonic's gonna win that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but your families are covered, so they're not going
Speaker 2: to like they said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what media is saying, the perfect holiday movie. Persony,
Speaker 1: he really likes the director J. C. Chandler chand or
Speaker 1: excuse me, surprised he got involved with a project like
Speaker 1: this given his the Well, here's the thing. It's called
Speaker 1: you do. You do this for them, You get to
Speaker 1: do whatever you want that you really want to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's probably the deal that he has. That's Frat also
Speaker 1: comes out. Yeah, that's also going to be a way
Speaker 1: better movie than this. So but yeah, anyways, yes, we're
Speaker 1: I'm done dog piling on it for this week. So
Speaker 1: but yeah, if you liked it, I'm very happy for you.
Speaker 1: But we will see you next week. Hopefully I'm not
Speaker 1: Craven more Craven, but we'll see who else is Craven
Speaker 1: more Craven next week. So all right, I'll see you
Speaker 1: next week. Bye bye,