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Speaker 2: Morning rich Hey, Good morning to you.
Speaker 3: Bill Hockey Tuesday, good good to you.
Speaker 1: Yes, real quickly, before we get into the topics, big congratulations,
Speaker 1: big kudos. Your show, syndicated show just got into New York.
Speaker 2: And for those of us that are.
Speaker 1: Sort of familiar with all this, getting into New York
Speaker 1: is almost a miracle. I mean that, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: that's no big that's no small deal.
Speaker 3: I I'm not kidding. I wrote this on my Instagram.
Speaker 3: I the first question I asked when I heard I
Speaker 3: was getting a show was will it be on in
Speaker 3: New York City? And the answer was no. That was
Speaker 3: that was two years ago, and I've been asking, I've
Speaker 3: literally been begging ever since, and finally they said, Okay,
Speaker 3: I think we think you're ready. And so this weekend,
Speaker 3: the same show that you hear in LA will be
Speaker 3: on in New York City.
Speaker 1: Now, I've been doing a Handle on the Law since
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five. It's on two hundred and sixty stations
Speaker 1: give or take.
Speaker 2: You know what, you know what city?
Speaker 1: It's not in New York. Yeah, yeah, well I'm telling.
Speaker 2: You, you know, New York. Here to Bill Miracle.
Speaker 1: I've been producing The Jesus Show, has been on for
Speaker 1: over two decades and it's national.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're on in New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's not easy to do it really is.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a big, big deal. So congratulations and
Speaker 1: very well done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. This is this was a big part
Speaker 3: of it, Bill, doing this with you, you know, you
Speaker 3: want to learn from the best, and you know this
Speaker 3: is this helped this. You know, people want good tech
Speaker 3: information and you know, hopefully we can give it to all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to suck it up. Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 2: What was that? It's Premier Radio, right. Are they syndicating you?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the same syndication company that I work with.
Speaker 1: And you know, as powerful as they are, and they're
Speaker 1: the biggest syndication company in the world, getting in the
Speaker 1: New York is almost impossible, So good for you. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move right into who just went was that you? Okay, no,
Speaker 1: all right, I don't know who that was. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about iPhones unlocking locked cabinets at stores like CVS.
Speaker 2: Going to CVS.
Speaker 1: And trying to get a bottle of shampoo that's in
Speaker 1: a locked case and you have to call the clirk
Speaker 1: over to unlock it is beyond horrible. And there's now
Speaker 1: technology this sort of bypasses that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is pretty common in the LA area I
Speaker 3: know and more I live, they have locked up everything,
Speaker 3: slowly but surely. And so yes, like you said, you
Speaker 3: got to go into these aisles. It makes you almost
Speaker 3: not want to shop there because you've got to call
Speaker 3: someone and wait for someone to come over and unlock
Speaker 3: the case. And in the case of a Walmart that
Speaker 3: I went to, not only do they unlock the case
Speaker 3: and give you the product, but then they lock it
Speaker 3: up in a secondary case. So you bring it to
Speaker 3: the here.
Speaker 1: In a lock box, I know, you get a yeah,
Speaker 1: a razor blade and it comes into a box that
Speaker 1: you can shoe box size box.
Speaker 2: Yes, crazy, Yeah, So what does this do? So what
Speaker 2: does this does? How does it undo that?
Speaker 3: So CBS is trying to use technology to help shopper.
Speaker 3: So the idea is that you have the CVS app
Speaker 3: installed on your phone, you're logged in, and when you
Speaker 3: go to one of these shelves, you can use the
Speaker 3: app on your phone to unlock the box and so
Speaker 3: that you can pull out your deodorant or whatever you need,
Speaker 3: the shampoo bottle and then it locks back up and
Speaker 3: so you don't have to call someone over. You can
Speaker 3: do it from your phone. And the idea is to
Speaker 3: make this easier, but also they know who you are.
Speaker 3: It's not going to be for everyone logged into the app.
Speaker 3: It gets people to download the app, It eases some
Speaker 3: of the frustration. Right now, they're testing this at just
Speaker 3: a handful of stores, but they're expecting or hoping to
Speaker 3: expand it to more stores before rolling it out to
Speaker 3: every store. If it works, I mean, the idea is
Speaker 3: that you know, hopefully this still cuts down on thefts,
Speaker 3: but it makes it easier for people to shop them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the whole point, of course is security, which you've
Speaker 1: just undone some security, and so what you're saying is
Speaker 1: that the safeguards that they know who you are, they
Speaker 1: know what time is it's being done, they can timestamp
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: Of that is enough security.
Speaker 1: Whether you can unlock those ridiculous cabinets is that the philosophy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it sounds like a good idea because
Speaker 3: you know, if it works for the consumer. I mean
Speaker 3: to me, like I've stopped going as a stores that
Speaker 3: I know, or I've stopped buying things that those stores
Speaker 3: that I know are locked up. So if I knew that, Oh,
Speaker 3: I can walk into the CBS. I've got the app
Speaker 3: on my phone, yet little headache to log in and
Speaker 3: sign up and all that stuff. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: if I can do that, I know I can go
Speaker 3: into that store, it might actually be a better process
Speaker 3: because I know I can walk straight to that aisle,
Speaker 3: grab what I need, unlock the case, grab what I need,
Speaker 3: and get out of there without waiting for someone. So
Speaker 3: it might actually be a good thing for sales. But
Speaker 3: balancing the idea that people just apparently steal everything they
Speaker 3: can get their hands on at these stores, yeah.
Speaker 1: And waiting for someone in this day and age, when
Speaker 1: they keep a skeleton staff no matter what, and you're
Speaker 1: waiting for a clerk who the last thing the clerk
Speaker 1: wants to do is come over there and open the
Speaker 1: case and then relock it. Or you're looking at it.
Speaker 1: I don't think, so put it back in.
Speaker 3: Right, you feel guilty now once they bring it over,
Speaker 3: like once they open the case. You know, if you're
Speaker 3: buying like shampoo or deodorant, whatever it is. You know,
Speaker 3: people like to linger, they like to look at the labels,
Speaker 3: they like to smell it. But you can't do any
Speaker 3: of that when the person comes over. It's like this
Speaker 3: pressure of like, okay, let me just choose. Well, just
Speaker 3: take that one, and you run out of there, you know.
Speaker 1: All right, Rich, we don't talk about the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's here's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: We gonna watch the super Bowl and Chiefs are probably
Speaker 1: going to win, and or they're not going to win.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're done now.
Speaker 1: The reason I am switching gears is during the break,
Speaker 1: Neil was talking about a segment that you were talking
Speaker 1: about on your show this past weekend about this new trailer, uh,
Speaker 1: an electric trailer, and he got so excited about, well
Speaker 1: he's been so excited about he wanted to talk about it,
Speaker 1: and I go, okay, so what's tell me about it?
Speaker 1: Because this is new stuff, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really really cool. So this got a lot
Speaker 3: of publicity. A couple of years ago, they came out
Speaker 3: with the video that showed off some of the features.
Speaker 3: But now I actually went up to Fremont, California, up
Speaker 3: near San Francisco to actually try this thing out. So
Speaker 3: it's called the Pebble Flow and it's a it's a
Speaker 3: high tech RV, so it's it's been reinvented from the
Speaker 3: ground up. It's all electric. A lot of guys from
Speaker 3: Tesla and SpaceX and Rivian and NASA, those are the
Speaker 3: people that are building this thing. And basically the guy
Speaker 3: who started it told me like, hey, you know, I
Speaker 3: really during the pandemic, I really wanted to start rving,
Speaker 3: but it was a pain to back this thing up,
Speaker 3: all the considerations you had to have, and he said,
Speaker 3: so there has to be a better way to get
Speaker 3: r ving to a new generation of people like myself
Speaker 3: that are smartphone centric. And so I think the neatest feature,
Speaker 3: besides all the you know, the fact that this thing
Speaker 3: looks really nice, the neatest feature bill is that you
Speaker 3: take an iPad. This thing is in your driveway or
Speaker 3: on the street, and you use the iPad to drive
Speaker 3: it around, like to a parking spot. So it's not
Speaker 3: like driving, per se.
Speaker 2: But it's moving.
Speaker 3: So you can spin it around three hundred and sixty.
Speaker 1: It moves on it and I'm looking at it. It's gorgeous.
Speaker 1: But does it it moves on.
Speaker 3: Its own, Yes, it moves on its own. It's wild.
Speaker 3: You you literally control it with an iPad app. And
Speaker 3: so when I first they said here, take the controller.
Speaker 3: They didn't tell me how to do it. They just
Speaker 3: said try it. And so I'd start putting my hands
Speaker 3: on the iPad. And when you start seeing this thing move,
Speaker 3: this giant you know, six thousand pounds RV, your brain thinks, oh,
Speaker 3: this thing's just going to roll down the street, right
Speaker 3: because you've never seen it unhitched moving. And sure enough,
Speaker 3: you stop. You take your hand off the iPad, it
Speaker 3: stops moving. You rotate it around, it stops moving. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's such a cool feature that that alone is enough
Speaker 3: to make a lot of people. You know, Okay, I
Speaker 3: can move over this thing into my parking lot now
Speaker 3: or my campsite, but it keeps going. So you've got
Speaker 3: this magic hitch feature, which means you put the thing
Speaker 3: near your car, the hitch on the back of your car,
Speaker 3: and it will find the hitch and hitch itself just
Speaker 3: like you know the guy who worked on the Space station.
Speaker 3: That's who worked on this seriously. And then it's got
Speaker 3: this other feature where it automatically levels itself out once
Speaker 3: it gets to your camp site. You don't have to
Speaker 3: figure out how to make it level. You just tap
Speaker 3: a button and it will figure out the ground, where
Speaker 3: to put the things up and down whatever you need
Speaker 3: to do. Really cool and by the way, all electrics,
Speaker 3: so you can use it as a ADU if you
Speaker 3: want in your driveway, I mean obviously check your local
Speaker 3: regional laws or whatever. You could use it as a
Speaker 3: mobile office. You can use it to charge your EV
Speaker 3: because it's got a big battery and solar on the top.
Speaker 3: Price tag over one hundred thousand dollars for this Pebble Flow.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful and I'm looking at a video of it.
Speaker 1: And now do you need a super car to.
Speaker 2: Tow it or can you do it with an SUV
Speaker 2: for example?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you should be able to. And that's the other
Speaker 3: feature that it has built into It actually has its
Speaker 3: own electric motor in it, so we try driving it
Speaker 3: with the motor on and off. So when you have
Speaker 3: the motor on it actually helps propel your car forward,
Speaker 3: so it's using The idea is that a lot of
Speaker 3: people might be using EV's, like the kind of people
Speaker 3: that might buy this might also have an EV, so
Speaker 3: you know, if you're trailing something behind your EV, you're
Speaker 3: going to use a ton of energy. So this actually
Speaker 3: will propel itself to save the energy from your car.
Speaker 3: They say, I think they said, you get about double
Speaker 3: the mileage that you would typically get if you weren't
Speaker 3: if you weren't propelled.
Speaker 2: That's run.
Speaker 1: And are they selling you or what sizes do they
Speaker 1: come in? That's the first question.
Speaker 3: So it's one size right now, and it's you know,
Speaker 3: they put a lot of thoughtful features into it. It's
Speaker 3: got a nice big kitchen. It's got a sleeping area,
Speaker 3: another sleeping area, kind of a pull out bed like
Speaker 3: a Murphy bed that turns into an office area. It's got,
Speaker 3: you know, like I said, a ton of storage. Oh
Speaker 3: the other thing that's cool are the glass. The glass
Speaker 3: on this thing has an electrostatic feature so that you
Speaker 3: tap a button on it and the glass goes frosted,
Speaker 3: and then you tap the button again and the glass
Speaker 3: goes clear. So in the bathroom. It's got that and
Speaker 3: also on the other windows, so one size right now.
Speaker 3: They're hoping, you know, in the future to make different sizes.
Speaker 3: But this thing is a startup, you know, they got
Speaker 3: to get off the ground. They got to get people
Speaker 3: interested and actually purchasing this thing and proving that they can,
Speaker 3: you know, make this thing better over times.
Speaker 2: Absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see why I kneel that all excited
Speaker 1: about that, But I buy one a you know, i'd
Speaker 1: rent one first, but they're probably not for rent. All right,
Speaker 1: really quickly, let's talk about the super Bowl coming up
Speaker 1: and how you can watch it in four K this
Speaker 1: year for free. First question is why, I mean, is
Speaker 1: there a big difference? And two, how do you watch
Speaker 1: it for free? Because I assume it's going to cost
Speaker 1: you money otherwise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean you could watch it, you know,
Speaker 3: obviously over the air, but this is the first time
Speaker 3: they're going to be streaming it in four K for free.
Speaker 3: You got to get the two V app t U
Speaker 3: b I. This is Fox's free, free ad supported streaming service.
Speaker 3: But the trick is, even if you have the app,
Speaker 3: you still have to have two things to watch this
Speaker 3: in four K You have to have a four K
Speaker 3: enabled TV, which duh, I mean if you're gonna be
Speaker 3: watching it in four K. But you also have to
Speaker 3: have a four K enabled streaming device that's a Roku,
Speaker 3: that's a Fire TV stick or a Fire TV device,
Speaker 3: an Apple TV or an Android TV that runs Google.
Speaker 3: All of those have to be four K. Plus your
Speaker 3: TV has to be four K. Those two things for
Speaker 3: this to line up and give you four K F
Speaker 3: for free on the Super Bowl. The other thing bill
Speaker 3: is to be Typically you can download the app and
Speaker 3: just start watching for the Super Bowl game. They of
Speaker 3: course got smart and said no, we want to collect
Speaker 3: a lot of email addresses, so you do have to
Speaker 3: sign in with your email address. It's still free, but
Speaker 3: my advice is to do this now. Don't wait until
Speaker 3: people come over to your house to set this up.
Speaker 3: Download it now, sign up now. Make sure you're ready
Speaker 3: to go for the big game on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Okay, are you going to be watching?
Speaker 3: Of course I'm rooting for the Chiefs because of you know,
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift and my wife.
Speaker 2: Wow, you know what, I wouldn't admit that, Cono cut
Speaker 2: that out? Would you? For the when we do?
Speaker 3: Are we going to use the dump button on making
Speaker 3: we already.
Speaker 1: We already have rich. You don't you don't want any
Speaker 1: of that. All right, we'll catch you this weekend. Congratulations
Speaker 1: on New York, by the way, and we'll see you next.
Speaker 1: We'll see you next Tuesday.