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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball
Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. Partner
Speaker 3: is Jay Gonzalz and we got our gay Kwan in
Speaker 3: today on a Friday, usual Friday for two hours. Should
Speaker 3: be a fun. We have a different type of show.
Speaker 3: We have a person of misidentified No, no, not misidentified, uh,
Speaker 3: miss misremembered, miss remembered. As usual, it's called a regular Tuesday,
Speaker 3: called Tuesday. We have coach Eric Rodgers on. We wanted
Speaker 3: to talk to him about coaching this year. But at
Speaker 3: some point and he's at Bachelor's yes, which is fine
Speaker 3: high school. We want to know we have bache. He's
Speaker 3: probably a bache of shopping, but he's at bachelor of
Speaker 3: high school and we'll talk to him about maybe he'll
Speaker 3: say something about his time at some point, you know,
Speaker 3: and just all the things that go with that. Right,
Speaker 3: And Tavier was pretty a candidate. What does he got
Speaker 3: to lose right about. And there's no shock to us
Speaker 3: that it's the parents that dictate a lot of the stuff.
Speaker 4: A lot of that kind of stuff, particularly at a
Speaker 4: private school like that right where where you know, parents
Speaker 4: are putting you know, a lot of money in the
Speaker 4: look and we're not doing this too, you know, to
Speaker 4: bash piss off the sell Point folks and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: And and maybe you know, the reality is that you
Speaker 4: know what whatever is going on at soell Point is
Speaker 4: going on everywhere else. You know, parents, parents, you know,
Speaker 4: get knee deep in this stuff. And uh and as
Speaker 4: we've said a number of times, the worst thing about
Speaker 4: you know, coaching kids is the parents.
Speaker 3: Parents.
Speaker 4: And so we'll see, we'll see what he what he
Speaker 4: has to say. But also you know, just get some
Speaker 4: of his thoughts from where he sits. You know, what
Speaker 4: he what he expects attitudes on coming out of tudes on.
Speaker 3: This year right right, And obviously we all know that
Speaker 3: we all know I want to generalize. Okay, this is
Speaker 3: a generalization. Show a bunch of us know that you
Speaker 3: go to Phoenix, the competition, THEFF it's different, right and
Speaker 3: you just got to be better if you want to
Speaker 3: play better, and all that stuff. It's just there's more
Speaker 3: people up there by tons and it's just the way
Speaker 3: it is. So you know, it's no no fault on
Speaker 3: his own that he took his son up there and
Speaker 3: and he's coaching up.
Speaker 4: There right and you know, probably feels like they're just
Speaker 4: a better opportunity for in terms of, you know, if
Speaker 4: he's a college of college level prospect, those kinds of things.
Speaker 3: I know, I know if I could, I could have
Speaker 3: or could have I would have tried to do that
Speaker 3: and done that one of the kids. And you know,
Speaker 3: my kids are fine here. It is what it is.
Speaker 3: Uh but hey, so no no excuses, no no apologies,
Speaker 3: no anything, Okay. And then in the second half we'll
Speaker 3: have our usual guy, Jake Fisher coming on. We'll ask
Speaker 3: him the same things we asked us some Lamont stuff
Speaker 3: yesterday about interviews did it matter? And you know the
Speaker 3: funny thing about it, he he he, along a few others,
Speaker 3: alongside a few others, was one of the pioneers about
Speaker 3: this nil stuff. I know he doesn't like talking about
Speaker 3: it because he too didn't think it would be like this.
Speaker 3: So maybe we'll kind of gently ask him, you know,
Speaker 3: gently he gotta wanted to hit me. I don't want
Speaker 3: he's one of our sponsor. I don't want him to
Speaker 3: stop catching those checks, sending those checks. You know, gotta
Speaker 3: be lightly I hear you. Okay, So that's the show
Speaker 3: for today and we get closer. You were practice today,
Speaker 3: I was, oh, you were not well. You explained you were.
Speaker 3: You were there, but not there.
Speaker 5: I showed up for the media session afterwards. We talked
Speaker 5: to to Caryo Davis and Marquiscros Killer Brew along with
Speaker 5: the cornerbacks coach Chim Binney. Good all stand up men.
Speaker 5: You could just see it in their eyes. They're ready
Speaker 5: for the season.
Speaker 3: To start, right. What did you get out of Davis?
Speaker 5: A very focused player. He talked about how he wants
Speaker 5: to work on technique, work on the small things because
Speaker 5: obviously he I'm pretty sure he'd let the Pac twelve
Speaker 5: in pass break because he had fifteen last season. He
Speaker 5: wants to finish those plays. He wants to not just
Speaker 5: bat the ball down, catch it and do something with it.
Speaker 4: Whole game was that I think it was? It was
Speaker 4: it the Oregon State game where like three balls hit
Speaker 4: him in the hands that he didn't catch the ball.
Speaker 4: I remember, And then there was. The whole thing was, well,
Speaker 4: that's why he's the defensive back and not a wide receiver.
Speaker 3: But that's important too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he was making plays.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, sure, so that's good. And then when the
Speaker 5: other guy was Marquis Gross Killer Brew. He's a transfer
Speaker 5: from Louisville and Texas A and M. And how does
Speaker 5: he look same? Same? He's a little bit smaller Caryo,
Speaker 5: but Carrio is also I feel like big to the
Speaker 5: college cornerback.
Speaker 3: So Jay, and I'll ask you this to one. So
Speaker 3: yesterday you brought up something that that I I'm not
Speaker 3: offended by, but but it's it's a natural thinking process.
Speaker 3: So the kid comes from from New Mexico, right, and
Speaker 3: you kind of brought this up. He's stepping up a level, right,
Speaker 3: and the question is can he handled the level?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: I'm surely be good at the higher If you're good,
Speaker 3: you're good in my mind. But maybe there's something there,
Speaker 3: but your thoughts of can he will he soon to see? Right?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: So, now you have a kid going from Louisville and
Speaker 3: Texas A and M. You think that he's he should
Speaker 3: be better, he should be better, right, He's and I
Speaker 3: mentioned this all the time those who are familiar with
Speaker 3: dog racing, a dog going to be going down to
Speaker 3: A B in a C going to be what your
Speaker 3: level of competition? Right, So my point is if you
Speaker 3: can play, you can play. And you're thinking this guy
Speaker 3: from Louisville in Texas, the name should Texas and am
Speaker 3: should fit in, right, you're assuming.
Speaker 4: That, well, yes, but also Steve, you also think, let's
Speaker 4: use the case of of Bill Norton came from Georgia. Right,
Speaker 4: he was as good, he was a good at defensive
Speaker 4: lineman Arizona evergets he was really good, but he wasn't
Speaker 4: good enough to play Georgia and that's why he came here.
Speaker 4: So you know, there is something to that whole thing
Speaker 4: of you know, there's another there's the levels. And so
Speaker 4: you get a guy moving up and you go, okay,
Speaker 4: you can he play. You got a guy moving down
Speaker 4: and you assume that he can because otherwise Georgia wouldn't
Speaker 4: have recruited him. So that the thing of the A,
Speaker 4: B and C dogs is a perfect example. You know,
Speaker 4: for those you know there are different grades in dog racing.
Speaker 4: I often bet on the grade A dog moving to
Speaker 4: great B, and I never bet.
Speaker 3: On a great v dog moving to great and that's
Speaker 3: a smart move.
Speaker 4: And that was that was the thing that you did.
Speaker 4: And sometimes you were right, sometimes you were wrong. Sure dogs.
Speaker 4: And you know, same with players, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, guys come from other from other places and
Speaker 4: and you don't know, maybe they just didn't get an opportunity. Well,
Speaker 4: here's another thing that that's a big part of I
Speaker 4: can't remember who.
Speaker 3: Was mentioned yesterday. Uh some player? So so Juan played
Speaker 3: a little ball, right, So right, So you're you're freshman.
Speaker 3: You're freshman going into a situation into college, right, and
Speaker 3: you're facing seniors, juniors, sophomores. Now those dudes are gone,
Speaker 3: your opportunity to play becomes better, so that your normOn example,
Speaker 3: maybe if had he steady stayed, he would have been
Speaker 3: able just to move along the line. But in today's world,
Speaker 3: it's give me it now or I'm gone.
Speaker 4: Okay. Two guys, two guys that come to mind when
Speaker 4: we're talking about this. Jacob Cowing, he's a utap comes
Speaker 4: to Arizona here a couple of years, as good a
Speaker 4: receiver as you've ever had. Did he did he stick
Speaker 4: in the NFL?
Speaker 5: He's still I think he's still she should be with
Speaker 5: the finders.
Speaker 4: You know, and he made the step up and did
Speaker 4: it well. Was was an impact guy at Arizona. The
Speaker 4: dude that went to USC, singer, Dorian Singer, he's at Arizona,
Speaker 4: tries to take the step up to USC. Nothing now
Speaker 4: he's back at Utah. You know, you just don't know, right,
Speaker 4: you don't know what what a guy can do. There's
Speaker 4: no guarantees when a guy comes here from Georgia. Okay,
Speaker 4: but there's no guarant but but there's also no guarantee
Speaker 4: that he's going to be bad if somebody goes from
Speaker 4: Arizona to USC, Ohio State or wherever.
Speaker 3: I think. And one of my points was if you
Speaker 3: kind of take the procedure of sophomore freshman sophomore, Yeah,
Speaker 3: in time, it's gonna work out.
Speaker 4: And there's guys that don't want to wait.
Speaker 3: That's the deal I get that I get, And that's
Speaker 3: the way of the world today. You know, this is
Speaker 3: you You want it now and you don't want it
Speaker 3: right away, especially in basketball.
Speaker 4: Come in basketball, especially in basketball. Guy, you know, guys
Speaker 4: who get who get, you know, get scholarships at Arizona Duke,
Speaker 4: you know, can't wherever. They expect that they're among the
Speaker 4: best in the country and they should be able to play.
Speaker 4: I don't care who you got on your run right away,
Speaker 4: that's what they think of, right well.
Speaker 3: And they're here for a year to go to the
Speaker 3: m right or.
Speaker 4: Even to play a while, But they don't expect to
Speaker 4: be sitting the bench as freshmen because they've never set
Speaker 4: the bench ever.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this maybe when we talk about
Speaker 3: basketball down the road that I don't know if you
Speaker 3: guys believe that with Caleb Love right pack ten back
Speaker 3: twelve Player of the Year, a heck of a good player,
Speaker 3: heck of a all around player, kind of right right,
Speaker 3: I'm not uh uh, but not good enough to play
Speaker 3: in the NBA.
Speaker 4: He may just be a really good college player.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of where I was going. I'm wondering,
Speaker 3: uh And nobody pays attention to other people, but the
Speaker 3: other guy's thinking, God, how good do I have to
Speaker 3: be to play at the next level?
Speaker 4: If he can't, If he can't right now, yeah, and
Speaker 4: maybe at the end of this year he will correct,
Speaker 4: But today he was not good enough to get in
Speaker 4: the NBA. And you're right, you see if you're you know,
Speaker 4: if you're uh uh kyleon Boswell, if you're you know
Speaker 4: he was here last year. If you're you know, uh,
Speaker 4: Jayden Bradley, you're one of those guy you go, wait
Speaker 4: a minute. He was really really good and he was
Speaker 4: not good enough. How good do I have to get?
Speaker 3: It happens all the time. I mean, look at just
Speaker 3: a bad example because of the way he played the
Speaker 3: Trier Alonzo Trier who who who didn't get much a
Speaker 3: claim going into the NBA. He was unbelievable while for
Speaker 3: a while and they give him a huge contract to
Speaker 3: he lasted maybe a year, year and a half and
Speaker 3: that was what was last time you slaw's name?
Speaker 4: Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: And it was more about him being selfish with the ball.
Speaker 4: And we put up the mount Rushmore and bad guys.
Speaker 3: Right, well, he's more about selfish ball being If he
Speaker 3: was a more gracious player or you know, giving player
Speaker 3: player or a team player that's the word. Uh, he
Speaker 3: would have had a better career, I think, Yeah, but
Speaker 3: he but he's not and that's not the NBA, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So no, yeah, I hear you. You know, I
Speaker 4: mean Seline Stottlemyer is another guy right in that in
Speaker 4: that mode, right, I had all the talent in the world.
Speaker 4: We could a shooter as there would have been in
Speaker 4: the NBA, not just college. And yet you know there
Speaker 4: was there were pieces of him that weren't a fit, right,
Speaker 4: and he never made.
Speaker 3: Well that year? Come on, who was a better shoot shooter?
Speaker 3: Him or or Reddick? That whole year? It was back
Speaker 3: and forth, back and forth, and maybe Selem was better
Speaker 3: and Ridick had a sixteen seventeen year and I was
Speaker 3: the head coach, right and Seleem is where he's at,
Speaker 3: which is you know it is what it is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I hear you. It's a it's a it's
Speaker 4: a it's look and it's really a player by player
Speaker 4: thing because you just don't know, you know, from each like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean is this running back Jaquory? What's nick meyrit
Speaker 4: something right or something there?
Speaker 3: Bill?
Speaker 5: Bill?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's number one by you know, he may be
Speaker 4: as good as Arizona his hat right, you're yesterday, I
Speaker 4: mean he's really he looks like he's really damn good.
Speaker 4: And you know, Lamon loved it on the show yesterday
Speaker 4: said he loves his body, he loves his feet, He
Speaker 4: looks like he's the guy, but we also said we're
Speaker 4: not going to know till the lights go on.
Speaker 3: I'll give you another name, two star Scoop. Right, he
Speaker 3: shows up here, no one thought, no one thought, and
Speaker 3: he was this unbelievable guy, goes to the next level
Speaker 3: and then turns out to be Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: Dude, yeah there comes You know, you get to a
Speaker 4: point where you have to have certain physical capabilities to
Speaker 4: play at the highest level. I mean you maybe you
Speaker 4: may have all the heart in the world, you may
Speaker 4: have all the desire, you may have all the intangibles,
Speaker 4: but you still have to have the physicalness event And
Speaker 4: you know, Scooby was a little slow, right right, right, small,
Speaker 4: a little smallish and and in the end, you know
Speaker 4: you need to have all of what he had plus
Speaker 4: then you also have to have the other.
Speaker 3: So so, given you followed it for the last ten years,
Speaker 3: right pretty much, who are your players that you thought, Okay, wow,
Speaker 3: this is cool and you wanted to get You're probably
Speaker 3: one of those not hill gangs. Give me your gloves,
Speaker 3: give me your gloves. Who are those guys?
Speaker 5: Definitely Scooby Scooby To this day, I remember the first
Speaker 5: time I heard his name was. They played at Colorado.
Speaker 5: He made a sack and I was like Scooby, Scooby,
Speaker 5: So I just tried to follow him. You made the
Speaker 5: play against the Oregon and the next year he had
Speaker 5: a spectacular season. One that comes to mind every time
Speaker 5: is Jared Tevis.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we talked about him yesterday.
Speaker 5: I wish you would have gotten a shot.
Speaker 3: The another guy undersized, uh walk on.
Speaker 4: You feel like he got the most out of what he.
Speaker 3: Had, no question, and then he had to wait his
Speaker 3: time to We talked about that. He didn't play much,
Speaker 3: play much, and then his senior shine Jacob Jake, Jake,
Speaker 3: we'll talk well because Jake fits that mold exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, and then he got hurt all these injuries timing, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: But you know, yeah, I mean Jake. I'm sure Jake
Speaker 4: will will tell us. You know, I had to play
Speaker 4: with a little more determination, a little more heart, because
Speaker 4: I was, you know, a little short on some of
Speaker 4: the other stuff. You know that that he wasn't built
Speaker 4: like a Ricky Hunley or Lamont Hunley or you know, uh,
Speaker 4: Lance Briggs or one of those guys. You know. So yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, you gotta you gotta get something from somewhere,
Speaker 4: and usually it's from within, right, And then that's the
Speaker 4: thing that you and I don't don't have, don't understand.
Speaker 3: And at that next level, they all have that, including
Speaker 3: everything else, including all the other and if they don't
Speaker 3: have that and they have the skills, they don't last
Speaker 3: long because you need to have.
Speaker 4: That, right, You have to have it at some point. Yeah,
Speaker 4: at some.
Speaker 3: Point, because they'd run you over. They'd run you over.
Speaker 3: You just can't be a dude who's just happy to
Speaker 3: be here. No, No, you have to have some dog in.
Speaker 4: That's why a guy like Teddy Bruce gets amazing in
Speaker 4: the career that he because he was close, closer in
Speaker 4: terms of having the physical attributes, but he was still
Speaker 4: a little shy. But well, the amount of guts and
Speaker 4: heart that he had made up for what little bit
Speaker 4: he was shot.
Speaker 3: Who better describes that than Chuck Cecil.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right right. You know he still wears like one hundred.
Speaker 3: And forty and you don't want to get him in
Speaker 3: a in a situation where you kicked your ass exactly. Okay,
Speaker 3: we got to go. We'll get a hold of coach
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Speaker 1: Steve Ravia and Jacin Solis. They have their tie on
Speaker 1: the four on Tucson's sports station yet Fox Sports fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to a the ball here at Fox
Speaker 3: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jacob Sauce. Now
Speaker 3: on the phone, we have Eric Rodgers. Can you coachev
Speaker 3: Dasha High School in Phoenix? Coach?
Speaker 13: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. How you guys doing.
Speaker 3: We're doing fine, doing fine. So are you living up
Speaker 3: there now on the day to day your son up
Speaker 3: there as well?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Yes, we made the transition, you know, and
Speaker 2: I tell you it's not an easy one by any means.
Speaker 2: But we were fortunate enough. My wife, being a nurse,
Speaker 2: she was able to get a phenomenal job up here.
Speaker 2: She got a great offer, I mean, honestly, more money.
Speaker 2: Just it was just a really, really good situation for her.
Speaker 2: It's hard always to leave kind of family, it's always
Speaker 2: hard to leave Tucson. But I think the opportunity presented
Speaker 2: itself to come up here. My work is fortunate enough.
Speaker 2: I can work still in Tucson, work here, I can
Speaker 2: work from home. I was actually in Tucson all day yesterday.
Speaker 2: Kind of making my errands, making my runs, checking on properties,
Speaker 2: meeting with old friends. So, uh, that part's good. But
Speaker 2: but we're all settled in up here in Phoenix, and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, we're almost just right across the street from Bassion,
Speaker 2: so it's really nice to have about a three minute
Speaker 2: commute to the school.
Speaker 4: So so so you're really get getting into your first
Speaker 4: season there. But uh, you know, as an assistant, but
Speaker 4: can you tell the difference in terms of, you know,
Speaker 4: the the level of not only of play, but just
Speaker 4: the level of I don't know if the right word
Speaker 4: is passion or the level of commitment or whatever, that
Speaker 4: it's that different in Phoenix because we know that that's
Speaker 4: where you know, big boy football is played.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think the last word you just said,
Speaker 2: I think that you nailed it with commitment. And when
Speaker 2: I use the word commitment, it's it's from the top down,
Speaker 2: with the with the with the schools, with the administration.
Speaker 2: You know, our principle here, mister Rachel, uh, mister Magania,
Speaker 2: our a our athletic director. I mean they're both former coaches.
Speaker 2: They called offenses, they play, they coached basketball. I mean
Speaker 2: they're sports minded from the top down. They support every
Speaker 2: single one of our football players in our program has
Speaker 2: a weightlifting class year round. That was one of the
Speaker 2: things that I struggled with all the time in Tucson
Speaker 2: was having that commitment level of listen, our kids when
Speaker 2: they come to school, we've got to have them in
Speaker 2: the weight room from the first day they get there
Speaker 2: till they lead like every day. That's got to be
Speaker 2: a commitment, and it was difficult and there were challenges
Speaker 2: with that. And so I think from what you see
Speaker 2: up here in Phoenix with the commitment level from the
Speaker 2: schools and how they're supporting their student athlete to become
Speaker 2: the best version of themselves. These kids come to school,
Speaker 2: Yes they're there for academics, but they're really trying to
Speaker 2: get scholarships to go to college. And so I think
Speaker 2: it's important that we as administrators as that if it
Speaker 2: is for putting them in that goal, now, whether they
Speaker 2: make it or not, we still got to support that.
Speaker 2: And I and you really see that when you come
Speaker 2: up here to the valley and see what's going on
Speaker 2: in Phoenix.
Speaker 3: Can you can you say what happened at South Point
Speaker 3: or maybe how your experience was there for the time
Speaker 3: you were there.
Speaker 2: Uh listen, I mean I started coaching with coach Bna
Speaker 2: in two thousand and two and it was it was awesome.
Speaker 2: I mean we had a heck of a run just
Speaker 2: to you know, I think what I take and we'll
Speaker 2: always remember are the relationships. Uh there's some families and
Speaker 2: some parents and some kids that you just build tremendous
Speaker 2: relationships with. And and there's multiple kids like sons that
Speaker 2: came through our program and played football for us that
Speaker 2: you know, I'm still friends with these people. Uh we
Speaker 2: were just as a matter of fact, the Sullivans, uh there,
Speaker 2: they have a house in Rhode Island. I happened to
Speaker 2: be there last summer and I'm literally walking around on
Speaker 2: this by this lighthouse and there's ben some of it
Speaker 2: and I'm like, holy cow. And the next thing you know,
Speaker 2: I'm over at their house and we're hanging out and
Speaker 2: we're taking pictures, and you know, it's those types of relationships.
Speaker 2: They had three boys that played there at South Point,
Speaker 2: So you know, that's that's what I'm going to remember
Speaker 2: the most. And you know, and now I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to creating, you know, new relationships, new memories here at Basha.
Speaker 4: So tell us a little bit, just because this is
Speaker 4: something that we don't get to delve into, you know,
Speaker 4: very much really at the high school level, just the
Speaker 4: sort of the changing environment, the changing atmosphere. You know,
Speaker 4: you're talking about, you know, involvement of parents, involvement of
Speaker 4: in some cases agents and things like that. You know,
Speaker 4: you were at a high level school at South Point,
Speaker 4: so you had some you know, you had some players
Speaker 4: going on to big schools and probably money being thrown
Speaker 4: around all over the place. What's that like for a
Speaker 4: high school coach to be dealing with all that stuff
Speaker 4: when it's really something that was really more for the
Speaker 4: college coaches or even the NFL coaches to be dealing
Speaker 4: with those kinds of issues.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a there there are some challenges with that.
Speaker 2: You know, I missed the old days. It's funny, I
Speaker 2: saw Keith the other day, Like, you know, twenty years ago,
Speaker 2: when I first started coaching, you know, they gave you
Speaker 2: a whistle, they gave you a shirt, a pair of shorts,
Speaker 2: and they said good luck. You know, there was there
Speaker 2: was nothing else. Now you've got to you know, you've
Speaker 2: got these concussion we're we're watching concussion tests and you know,
Speaker 2: there's just video after video, there's fingerprint and it's all good.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying any of that bad. We need that
Speaker 2: and it's a good part of what we're doing. But
Speaker 2: when you talk about now Portal Nil, how these high
Speaker 2: school kids are getting recruited, it it's a it's making
Speaker 2: a huge impact. It's affecting them in a big way.
Speaker 2: And the biggest thing that these young kids and their families,
Speaker 2: their parents can understand it it doesn't matter. If you
Speaker 2: want to go and play ball, then you have to
Speaker 2: be willing to one leave home. There's not a lot
Speaker 2: of schools in Arizona to play college football, and so
Speaker 2: you have to be willing to go to the Midwest,
Speaker 2: the west coast, the northwest, the east coast to southeast.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's hundreds of schools in those areas and
Speaker 2: you have you can't be worried about whether it's Division three,
Speaker 2: Division two NAI. If you believe in yourself and you
Speaker 2: have confidence, go where they love you, go where they
Speaker 2: want you, and then go play. You'll be the guy,
Speaker 2: and then go be the best player on your team,
Speaker 2: and then be the best player in the league, and
Speaker 2: then be the best player at the division III level
Speaker 2: and you'll get your opportunities to keep moving up the ladder,
Speaker 2: and so you just you can't get caught up in
Speaker 2: some of that stuff. I do miss. I do miss
Speaker 2: the days of just you know, the old just get
Speaker 2: out there and coach football, coach Hexas and O's work
Speaker 2: with kids, build relationships. When you get into the how
Speaker 2: much money the kid wants to get paid now before
Speaker 2: he's going to say he wants to go to that school,
Speaker 2: struggle with that. That's that's it's here though, it's not
Speaker 2: going anywhere. Yeah, it's not. It's not why I coach,
Speaker 2: that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Well, now I'm not gonna speak for you. That's why
Speaker 3: I when asked the question, you must feel a little
Speaker 3: bit more comfortable moving over a seat or two now
Speaker 3: that you're not the head coach and you're an assistant coach.
Speaker 2: No, you're one hundred percent correct. I mean as much
Speaker 2: as I don't mind doing all those tasks, you know,
Speaker 2: talking about dealing with equipment. You know, you're buying all
Speaker 2: the equipment, you're handing out equipment. Then you got food orders.
Speaker 2: You're making sure everybody's getting fed before the game, after
Speaker 2: the game, snack bars for the lower levels travel fundraising,
Speaker 2: not having to do that right now. Yes, I definitely
Speaker 2: enjoy that. I'm loving just being with the kids, building
Speaker 2: those relationships and then you know, just to strategizing x's
Speaker 2: and o's, how do we put the kids in the
Speaker 2: best position to be successful?
Speaker 4: All right, So even though you're up the road, we've
Speaker 4: been trying to kick around, you know who who are
Speaker 4: the teams to keep an eye on down here from
Speaker 4: what you saw? And uh, maybe you know who's coming back,
Speaker 4: who's not coming back, those kinds of things. You know,
Speaker 4: if you're if you're getting ready for a season down here,
Speaker 4: who are you looking at? Terms? Okay, we got to
Speaker 4: watch out for them, them, them and them.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think, you know, coach Nugrin still
Speaker 2: doing a heck of a job. He's got a heck
Speaker 2: of a squad coming back. I think Micah is they're
Speaker 2: primed to make a run and have a chance to
Speaker 2: win a state championship, Ceo being the defending state chance.
Speaker 2: I know, they lost a huge, huge senior class, so
Speaker 2: they're gonna you know, they're gonna have their hands full.
Speaker 2: But then obviously, uh, you know, you've got Marana. I
Speaker 2: think Morana's doing some wonderful things. Uh, they're building a
Speaker 2: heck of a program. Coach Stuart does a heck of
Speaker 2: a job Coach Yankarelli does. I mean they're they're they're
Speaker 2: doing good, good things and they got some great skill kids.
Speaker 2: It always comes down to that offensive line in D
Speaker 2: line for them, and so if they can, uh, if
Speaker 2: they can do some things with those guys, I think
Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to compete with anybody. South Point,
Speaker 2: of course is south Point. They've always got the kids,
Speaker 2: the talent, the parents. I mean, it's all there for
Speaker 2: the taking with them. They just got to go out
Speaker 2: and get the job done.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then you know, don't sleep on Tucson High. I
Speaker 2: think Zach's building something great there.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: They're a special group of kids and been playing a
Speaker 2: lot of football together for a while. So I'm excited
Speaker 2: to see what Zach does at Tucson High. He's got
Speaker 2: a great coaching staff. They're just uh and I know
Speaker 2: they're prime. They just want to keep competing and getting better.
Speaker 2: So I love the work that they put in.
Speaker 4: We're talking to Eric Rodgers, now an assistant coach at
Speaker 4: Bashelor High School, former head coach at South Point. This
Speaker 4: is this is one of those questions kind of like
Speaker 4: asking you, you know, which one is your favorite kid?
Speaker 4: Who did you enjoy or have?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: May yeah, maybe enjoys the right word. Competing against the
Speaker 4: most in terms of the coaches here, I know you
Speaker 4: coach with some of these guys and you grow up
Speaker 4: with them and stuff like that. But there had to
Speaker 4: be somebody that when you took the feed you thought, Okay,
Speaker 4: this is going to be fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's boy, that's a great question. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of the guys we just named obviously, you know,
Speaker 2: Coach Stewart, Coach Nugent, they've always done a great job,
Speaker 2: you know. But I'll tell you one of the guys
Speaker 2: that I loved, you know, and we had a heck
Speaker 2: of a battle with them. Last game of the year
Speaker 2: last year was coach Jewele at Brophy. You know, it
Speaker 2: was last game of the year, everything on the line,
Speaker 2: and I mean we go to kick the dog on
Speaker 2: winning field goal and we knock it through the uprights
Speaker 2: to take the lead fifteen fourteen, and we get called
Speaker 2: for you know, a false start, and so they back
Speaker 2: it up and then obviously we missed the kick and
Speaker 2: we lose the game fourteen twelve. But you know that
Speaker 2: he's coach. Jule does a phenomenal job at Brophy. I
Speaker 2: always have tremendous respect for him. You know that Highland
Speaker 2: is another one, Cottlee, You're you're always going to have
Speaker 2: a football game. When we played Highland at their place
Speaker 2: a couple years ago, I mean, it was a dog fight.
Speaker 2: And you so there's you know, some of those obviously
Speaker 2: up here, but there there's there's great coaches everywhere. That's
Speaker 2: what I love, and that's what I'm excited about, you know,
Speaker 2: just staying in Arizona, being here and being able to
Speaker 2: just continue to be part of the coaching fraternity.
Speaker 3: Well, now let's talk about the reason why you moved
Speaker 3: up to Phoenix. Your son, who I hear is a
Speaker 3: pretty good quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's you know, he finally just passed me in growth.
Speaker 2: So he's now taller than I am. Still outweigh I mean,
Speaker 2: he said, yeah, I know, Dad, I don't think i'll ever.
Speaker 3: Weigh So what are you six three? He's must be
Speaker 3: sixty four.
Speaker 2: What is he No, I'm probably six to one, and
Speaker 2: so he's just now kind of passed me up so
Speaker 2: and I don't think he's done. I just bought him
Speaker 2: a pair of new cleats and their size fourteen. So
Speaker 2: and you know, I think he's built a lot like
Speaker 2: my father and my brother, which was that long, slender,
Speaker 2: just that kind of physike. I was always kind of
Speaker 2: that short, stumpy one. But he's he's doing great. He's
Speaker 2: really liking bash a lot. Again. We got a great
Speaker 2: coaching staff. Coach felker A is the offensive coordinator, he's
Speaker 2: been coaching college ball forever. Coach Jones is the DC
Speaker 2: he's been coaching college ball forever. So it's exciting to
Speaker 2: watch those guys out there. And and I think Jake's excited.
Speaker 2: He's got all a's right now school wise, just doing
Speaker 2: great with that, and he's meeting new friends, meeting new guys.
Speaker 2: He loves the competition, you know. I think that's what
Speaker 2: for him, that's what he feeds off of. It's it's
Speaker 2: competing every day with some of the best players in
Speaker 2: the entire state. And so that's what he wanted. And
Speaker 2: I think he's excited about that. And he's just gonna
Speaker 2: keep plugging away and taking advantage of every opportunity he gets.
Speaker 3: So where is yet in the depth chart or do
Speaker 3: you know already.
Speaker 2: You know we still you know, we just put the
Speaker 2: shoulder pad, you know, put helmets, shoulder pads, full pads,
Speaker 2: all that stuff. He's been competing and playing on the
Speaker 2: JV team right now. Okay, I think he may, you know,
Speaker 2: he he's there's a great JV quarterback, Barry, and those
Speaker 2: two go head to head every day. They're they're good,
Speaker 2: good friends. They they enjoy the competition with one another.
Speaker 2: And then Brody is a is a junior quarterback that's
Speaker 2: been that's probably tagged as the varsity starter right now.
Speaker 2: And then there's two really good senior quarterbacks and so
Speaker 2: we'll just see how he progresses. We'll see how the
Speaker 2: how the season you know, continues to go. But I'm
Speaker 2: totally good. He's a sophomore. There's nothing problem with a
Speaker 2: sophomore playing JV h. You know, sometimes parents get carried away.
Speaker 2: They got to be on Varsitie doesn't that he knows.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a three year plan. And then we're
Speaker 2: gonna look at what coledge is they're interested in him,
Speaker 2: and then we'll pick the right one that fits best
Speaker 2: and then we go keep keep competing and keep playing
Speaker 2: so there's no no pressure from our.
Speaker 14: Side of the things.
Speaker 3: I have a suggestion for you. I have a doctor
Speaker 3: you want to go see you. You too realistic for
Speaker 3: being a parent. What the heck? More parents are kind
Speaker 3: of going crazy. My son needs to play, he needs
Speaker 3: to do this. No, you're realistic. I don't know what's
Speaker 3: wrong with you. No.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's because I've been doing it for
Speaker 2: so long and I and I've young kids, you know,
Speaker 2: I think when it's hard because I've been involved in
Speaker 2: it for so long now it's been twenty something plus
Speaker 2: years now, and I remember, I'll never forget Tyler Grumky.
Speaker 2: He's just a prime example. And yeah, there's always one
Speaker 2: or two, but no, he's a prime example of that.
Speaker 2: He never played a snap at quarterback until his senior
Speaker 2: year at some point, right and he goes out sets
Speaker 2: the school record for passing yards in a season, and
Speaker 2: then he gets a scholarship to go play at the
Speaker 2: University of Hawaii and three years later he's playing Georgia
Speaker 2: in the Sugar Bowl. So they're just all different paths.
Speaker 2: Everybody's got a different path. The key is, you know,
Speaker 2: just building on those daily tasks continue to improve every
Speaker 2: day that you know. They people talk about getting one
Speaker 2: percent better every day. If you can do that, the
Speaker 2: things are gonna happen to you. So it's hard to
Speaker 2: live by sometimes, but you just have to be patient
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 3: So one last question before we go, So, how do
Speaker 3: you think the kids that you had last year who left,
Speaker 3: you know, the former Arizona commits, are you know, gonna
Speaker 3: do this freshman year if they play at all?
Speaker 2: Well, So what I'm here and I text with Keona
Speaker 2: and Elijah all the time. I think Elijah's right there
Speaker 2: in the too deep. I think he's gonna get tons
Speaker 2: of reps and playing time. And Kon I hear is
Speaker 2: battling for a starting job at Nebraska right now. So
Speaker 2: I think both Keyona and Elijah at Oregon and Nebraska
Speaker 2: are gonna get plenty of playing time. And the great
Speaker 2: thing college d line is they play eight guys I
Speaker 2: mean or sometimes nine, so you're gonna get twenty and
Speaker 2: again it's one hundred plus reps in a college football game,
Speaker 2: and so you're gonna get twenty to thirty reps whether
Speaker 2: you're even if you're the third team guy. And so
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see those guys. I've actually listen. I
Speaker 2: already bought tickets to go up for the Oregon Ohio
Speaker 2: State game. So I'm taking the whole family up for
Speaker 2: that one. I got because a lath And will be
Speaker 2: playing for Ohio State and then to be able to
Speaker 2: see Elijah and Cruz. It's going to be a heck
Speaker 2: of a battle. So I said, screw it, I'm that
Speaker 2: we have a buy that week, so it works out
Speaker 2: good for me.
Speaker 3: Great, great, well, coach, We appreciate your time. Good luck
Speaker 3: to the rest of the way. We'll keep an eye
Speaker 3: on how you guys do. Yeah, yeah, thank you, coach
Speaker 3: Eric Rogers, appreciate it. That's fun. That's fun. A good insight, Yeah,
Speaker 3: really good. But exactly what we said.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing got me. He sounds really excited but
Speaker 4: still be coaching.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean he's whatever circumstances that he left itself point.
Speaker 4: It's not temperate enthusiastical.
Speaker 3: Right, No, you're right, And those are the dudes that
Speaker 3: you want as coaches because they're they're happy to be there,
Speaker 3: they love what they do. Right, And he obviously was
Speaker 3: politically correct by not saying anything which is a smart move.
Speaker 4: Thing to do. Yeah, okay, all right, let's take a break.
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Speaker 1: Steve Bravera and Jacin Salez they have their Eye on
Speaker 1: the Ball on tucsum Sports digs jet Fox Sports fourteen
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Speaker 3: Wapp Hey, welcome back to On on the Ball here
Speaker 3: Fox Sports forteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's jacins owas
Speaker 3: scudder guy who want in today? We have fifteen minutes
Speaker 3: if you'd like to call us, please do. I think
Speaker 3: someone tried to call us earlier, so we have our
Speaker 3: chance to answer it now. I will keep an eye
Speaker 3: out for a five two o four one six seventy
Speaker 3: four forty uh. I don't think that was coach, right,
Speaker 3: that was we just missed it. So if you want
Speaker 3: to call, just please do. That's cool, and then we'll
Speaker 3: have a Jake Fisher on the other side on the
Speaker 3: other side of the ARTEA.
Speaker 4: Lots of stuff to talk to him about, because you've
Speaker 4: be kicking around a lot of a lot of things.
Speaker 4: Not you know so much on the field. Stuff is,
Speaker 4: you know, just things going on around right here. Here's
Speaker 4: a caller. Let's take this. Hi, you're on the aar
Speaker 4: and eye on the ball.
Speaker 14: Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 13: Jay?
Speaker 14: Don't jab, don't jump too?
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: We haven't heard from you in a while.
Speaker 14: Man, for a while, I couldn't get through the y'all.
Speaker 14: So y'all must be getting popular.
Speaker 3: He said, money said money said money? What's going on?
Speaker 3: What's on your mind too? We were described as cheating
Speaker 3: chalk yesterday, so I'm not sure that's great.
Speaker 14: That's not great, No, y'all, ain't doing that teaching Jones.
Speaker 2: Y'all like y'all like.
Speaker 14: George, like g was talking about yesterday, George, U made
Speaker 14: games this year. Now it ain't no more tax twelve network.
Speaker 4: It's a it's on either it's ESPN. So that that's
Speaker 4: who the Big twelve contract is with. So games that
Speaker 4: aren't like on the network. That's so maybe games that
Speaker 4: you would have seen on PAC twelve network in the
Speaker 4: past will be on ESPN Plus. So you got you
Speaker 4: gotta get a subscription to that. It's streaming. Uh it's
Speaker 4: I think it's nine or ten bucks a month something
Speaker 4: like that. And so so games that are not on
Speaker 4: you know, on Fox or or ESPN, ESPN U, ESPN
Speaker 4: two whatever, they'll be on ESPN Plus and that you'll
Speaker 4: get a lot of basketball there as well.
Speaker 14: So you don't know this. Uh, my adombined brother is
Speaker 14: dale a little pas and your wife was sitting right
Speaker 14: in front of me at u of a basketball.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, yeah, I used to look guy.
Speaker 14: Now I'll see oldal a little bit. But I know
Speaker 14: you don't do the games no more. But your wife
Speaker 14: was in the.
Speaker 4: Road right in front of me, right, yes, yes, she
Speaker 4: goes she's got season tickets to the women's games.
Speaker 5: Yep, I moved.
Speaker 14: I think I moved my tickets down to the concourse.
Speaker 5: Coach.
Speaker 14: Shoot, I'm old. My knees is going out on the
Speaker 14: little Chavs is a little too.
Speaker 4: Tight for me, man, they are. I sat up there,
Speaker 4: I went. I sat up there as a spectator for
Speaker 4: a game, as it's the first time I've been a
Speaker 4: spectator the game and I don't know how many years.
Speaker 4: And those seats are tight.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: You tear your leg when you hit that, the the
Speaker 4: cup holder and stuff.
Speaker 14: Yeah, because I was in like roll one and one
Speaker 14: and two and I'm like, my boy Marlin Wayne's.
Speaker 3: So hey said real quick, So do you go to
Speaker 3: football games?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 14: You know, did the football man? But you know, I
Speaker 14: got kind of disappointed in someone, but I'm going back.
Speaker 14: I'll be watching them.
Speaker 3: So what do you think is gonna happen this year?
Speaker 3: Win wise?
Speaker 14: Win wise? And I think I think they win least
Speaker 14: seven games. They they're shoe winning for that.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, shoeing for seven yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 14: Yeah they're shoe and they they're shoe in for at
Speaker 14: least something. But uh, you know that that conference might
Speaker 14: be a little bit tougher than their old conference.
Speaker 4: You're right, would would you be happy with seven or
Speaker 4: do you think that's sort of a minimum?
Speaker 14: Well, let me let me let me let me say
Speaker 14: it like this here. Man always want eat a nine.
Speaker 14: But uh, you know, as long as we got a
Speaker 14: winning season, we're on the positive side. You know, I
Speaker 14: don't want I don't want to see us like three
Speaker 14: and eight that kind of stuff. But if we like
Speaker 14: eight and four, that's a great year for us.
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, thanks, thanks for calling us.
Speaker 4: I appreciate your calling. Man.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you have to have a great day putting up
Speaker 14: a good show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much. And by the way, when
Speaker 3: we moved to our news place in them three or
Speaker 3: four weeks, right, we're gonna know who's calling us, and
Speaker 3: we'll see more calls coming in, right, we just won't
Speaker 3: have the one line.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, we'll have more lines one right here. We'll
Speaker 4: get people put them on holding. So let's take this. Hi,
Speaker 4: you're on the air and eye on the ball.
Speaker 15: Hi, this is Luis Serrano with and Tucson and I
Speaker 15: have a question.
Speaker 14: For Jay and Steve.
Speaker 4: Okay, you're you're on the air.
Speaker 15: Go ahead, We were talking earlier just about the stadium,
Speaker 15: and a few weeks ago you brought up just different
Speaker 15: memories at the stadium. Talking about Scooby made me think
Speaker 15: of my time with my brother Kwan going as games
Speaker 15: to watch Scooby, And I was wondering, what are some
Speaker 15: of the top field rushes y'all had. What's some of
Speaker 15: the field rushes you can remember in your time at
Speaker 15: the stadium.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 16: I did.
Speaker 4: Actually I rushed the field once, but it was all
Speaker 4: the way back in nineteen seventy six or seventy four
Speaker 4: who they beat ASU. It was the first time they
Speaker 4: beat ASU in the years, and so I was in
Speaker 4: high school and I rushed the field on that but
Speaker 4: I thought that I thought the best one was and
Speaker 4: it got a lot of hand though. Was it was
Speaker 4: eighty six when they beat ASU and UH and then
Speaker 4: they they ended up tear gassing the fans because get
Speaker 4: them up. And there was that one.
Speaker 3: So just the ones I went to Iowa, Iowa and
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State today, did they.
Speaker 4: I don't think they rush the field o Clohmbas State
Speaker 4: did they? Maybe they did?
Speaker 3: Iowa, Iowa?
Speaker 4: Well, the Washington one, Okay, Washington ninety two. They were
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety two when Washington came as number one in
Speaker 4: the country. That was That's say, I go back to
Speaker 4: those ones. Those were great ones, like rushing the field
Speaker 4: when they beat cal In you know, in in Jdfish's
Speaker 4: first year, I'm like, I don't like. I didn't like that.
Speaker 3: No, even last year, I think, didn't they do it once?
Speaker 3: And they said they did it against Come on, guys,
Speaker 3: act like you've been here before. It was kind of
Speaker 3: like they're just doing it to do it.
Speaker 4: But I go, I go way back to think about those.
Speaker 4: I loved the Washington one and then the one in
Speaker 4: eighty six as U that that was fun. Which ones?
Speaker 4: Which ones jump out for you?
Speaker 15: The one that jumps out to me automatically is when
Speaker 15: we won the PAC twelve south right the ASU to
Speaker 15: go to the Pactrol Championship games.
Speaker 4: That was a great one.
Speaker 15: And then as a younger kid, the one I remember
Speaker 15: is one of the Hanton Cathon teams they beat Oregon. Yeah,
Speaker 15: I remember seeing just like a sea of students because
Speaker 15: everyone was on the sideline before the game ended. So
Speaker 15: those are the two that stood out for sure.
Speaker 4: That was I think that was a Thursday night game.
Speaker 14: Right, Yeah, it was something like that.
Speaker 3: And invariably the kids who try to jump off there
Speaker 3: break the legs, get caught on the ledge or whatever.
Speaker 3: You don't have, Louis, we might, Louis, we might have
Speaker 3: to get to uh, you know, get your boy here
Speaker 3: a job here. He's doing pretty well. That's so good.
Speaker 15: I'm so proud of my brother team Toronto all day.
Speaker 4: All right, man, thank you Louis, Thanks for Colin.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it, all right, man, thanks appreciate it. Get the family.
Speaker 3: Who else is do to Callee from the Serrano family?
Speaker 11: That was It.
Speaker 5: Kind of threw me off right there.
Speaker 10: I was.
Speaker 5: I was focused on coming up and.
Speaker 3: He's older, older, older. I was like, oh no, don't,
Speaker 3: don't say anything.
Speaker 4: Well you can you can call any time. Okay, you
Speaker 4: can call anytime you want, not even whether whether one
Speaker 4: is here or not, all anytime you want. That was
Speaker 4: that was fun. Now you know that those were fun.
Speaker 4: And again there have been a few where you thought,
Speaker 4: you know, let's not storm the field of last year
Speaker 4: it was like we just staying this, but you know it, Uh,
Speaker 4: the good ones were you know when they beat generally
Speaker 4: a top five team, right, did did did Storm? They
Speaker 4: top ten?
Speaker 3: The u c l A game, No, that was the
Speaker 3: Street the Street.
Speaker 4: Well, what was the u c l A game when
Speaker 4: when Arizona beat him like fifty two to ten or something.
Speaker 4: That was not the Streak team that was fifty five.
Speaker 4: That was That was Willie Twa thom and Mike Thomas, uh,
Speaker 4: Mike Bell, all those guys. Let's take this. You're the
Speaker 4: air and Hine on the ball.
Speaker 17: Hey guys, it's Jim.
Speaker 4: What's up Jim.
Speaker 17: My favorite field memory, there are two of them. Number
Speaker 17: one was that I love that Keith Smith. He was
Speaker 17: a great athlete for a quarterback.
Speaker 4: And you need to turn off your you turn off
Speaker 4: your radio.
Speaker 17: Turn I did one.
Speaker 14: He came back.
Speaker 15: Anyway.
Speaker 17: Here's the deal. Keith Smith completes the path out the
Speaker 17: left flats. The guy does a juke move and by
Speaker 17: the time he up recovers and gets around the tackler,
Speaker 17: Keith Smith is out in front of him walking.
Speaker 4: I remember that. I remember that, do you?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 17: He was before or since. And I met him one
Speaker 17: day at lunch and I told him about that and
Speaker 17: he laughed.
Speaker 4: He's really well, he was really fast, really fast.
Speaker 2: It was very fast and the other.
Speaker 17: The other memory I have at the stadium was Jay
Speaker 17: Rush and the concession stand when Rover's out around.
Speaker 14: There are only three.
Speaker 4: Now was that necessary? Was that really necessary?
Speaker 3: You know, you can't.
Speaker 4: You can't call me and give me crap about the
Speaker 4: Dodgers today. So that's what you're gonna do. Okay, fine,
Speaker 4: I'll go with it.
Speaker 3: That was funny.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Jim. Yeah, you are, you are, Thank you, Jim.
Speaker 4: Appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there have been very few legitimate ones. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: do remember, I I think, but it was stoopids in
Speaker 3: the Yeah, and then I don't remember. I thought, you
Speaker 3: know when because that was such an exciting game.
Speaker 4: Part.
Speaker 3: Yeah, more people showed up later as they knew that
Speaker 3: they were gonna it was like the Oregon game.
Speaker 4: Then there was a few points the twenty thirteen organ
Speaker 4: game where they brained.
Speaker 3: Yeah Moore. People showed up later when they had thought
Speaker 3: they had a chance.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, there was, yeah, there was. And that was
Speaker 4: a that resulted in a field storm as well.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: That was a great cloudy, rainy and cloudy and all
Speaker 4: that stuff that day. That was fun. But then there
Speaker 4: was time that they started to storm in the field
Speaker 4: and then against Oregon and then the game wasn't over.
Speaker 4: Game got into overtime and they ended up losing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then I would don't remember that one.
Speaker 5: It's double over time. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: Wow, God, look at you. Guess how old were you?
Speaker 13: Like?
Speaker 4: One is the history in sports that I remember.
Speaker 5: That was one of the first things. Else t I say, Hey,
Speaker 5: games not over, don't rush the field?
Speaker 4: You were? Have you rushed the field?
Speaker 3: Fourteen?
Speaker 4: Which games? Tell me?
Speaker 5: The first one was the Organ game?
Speaker 4: Okay, hold on, we got to call let's take this. Hi, Hi,
Speaker 4: you're on the r and nine on the ball.
Speaker 16: Hey, good Friday, gentlemen. Hello, calling not necessary, you guys.
Speaker 16: It was these guys in the morning show. Now, they
Speaker 16: were on a different station. They were playing that wacky
Speaker 16: game about a month ago of a start bench cut
Speaker 16: you have a head football coaches. Okay, so they get
Speaker 16: to Jed Fish, they got to rich Ryde At that point,
Speaker 16: I'm thinking I'm still bad for Dick toeing, Like, well,
Speaker 16: of course they're gonna say Larry Smith, he's the best
Speaker 16: coach you've ever had here. No, they're Dick Tony number three.
Speaker 16: So I was gonna call in, but you know, I
Speaker 16: didn't have enough chance. But that may be, you know,
Speaker 16: that was my opinion Larry Smith. You know, that might
Speaker 16: not be everybody. But of course, Dick Tomy's gonna you know,
Speaker 16: they started him. He's gonna tug on a lot of
Speaker 16: hard strengths when the players left Tomy. But from what
Speaker 16: I remember, Smith's offenses were a little better. Tomy's defenses
Speaker 16: were were incredible, you know or something. But I remember
Speaker 16: Larry Smith will beat the issue on the regular and
Speaker 16: they'd always knock off some big tug. I guarantee if
Speaker 16: he stayed here, they get a couple of rose bowls.
Speaker 16: I think the way he left kind of left the
Speaker 16: bitter tasting everybody's mouth, you know, you.
Speaker 4: Agree, yeah, yeah, no, I agree. He had the program
Speaker 4: was rolling, he was he was playing that. You know,
Speaker 4: he he built the defense, right, They were an incredible
Speaker 4: defense already when Dick got here, and Dick just you know,
Speaker 4: kept that piece of it going. But Larry Smith's offenses
Speaker 4: were pretty damn good too. And and so yeah, I
Speaker 4: kind of agree that's why people were so disappointed and
Speaker 4: the and he left because you felt like Arizona was
Speaker 4: on that track.
Speaker 16: Well, do you think what our people was the middle
Speaker 16: Finger game because I was at that game he came,
Speaker 16: well was he just catching a ras of stuff? And
Speaker 16: Larry finally says, you know what.
Speaker 4: You Yeah, I thought it was funny as hell. I
Speaker 4: thought it was cool as hell. No, I don't think it.
Speaker 4: I don't think it was that. I think it was
Speaker 4: the way, the way he left and where he went
Speaker 4: that got people worked up about him, and that will
Speaker 4: always sick.
Speaker 16: You know, these guys put old Jem Fish and rich
Speaker 16: Rod on the list, so good for them. Man, you
Speaker 16: know they didn't stick around long. But you're making that
Speaker 16: uh you know, top three list, and that's not bad.
Speaker 16: But I forgured you got I get your guys opinion
Speaker 16: on that guy. You know, school like me?
Speaker 3: Say the list again? In terms of what was the list?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, what was all right?
Speaker 16: Well they started they started, told me, I believe they
Speaker 16: cut rich Rod. So they what is that bench that
Speaker 16: they benched Fish?
Speaker 3: So you have so what was the criteria though? Was
Speaker 3: his best coaches here?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 16: Football coaches?
Speaker 3: Okay? So bench?
Speaker 4: See if you if you asked me who I thought
Speaker 4: was the best x'es and O's coach, I'm gonna say
Speaker 4: rich Rod Okay, when you talk about who go ahead.
Speaker 4: When you talk about who was the best coach in
Speaker 4: terms of the program, Smith, it's it's Larry Smith or Dick.
Speaker 4: You know, that's a toss up, but.
Speaker 16: Tough circumstances. He did toot of the allegations. Turns out
Speaker 16: we're not founded being that right.
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, and that's what happened. But again, rich Rod,
Speaker 4: in terms of a game day coach and a guy
Speaker 4: that you thought, there was never a time that I
Speaker 4: thought Arizona was going to get out coached With rich
Speaker 4: Rod on the field, I always thought Arizona had the best.
Speaker 16: Coach, a great, great And then thank you, gentlemen, get
Speaker 16: your opinion on that.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 16: You guys have a good weekend.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you. Colling, thank you. That's an interesting conversation
Speaker 4: because you know that that's just what I said. You know,
Speaker 4: when you talk about who built the program, who of
Speaker 4: the guys that you remember is the you know, sort
Speaker 4: of whatever you want to call him legendary or you know,
Speaker 4: the most prolific or whatever you Larry Smith and Dick
Speaker 4: told me they were the best guys for this program,
Speaker 4: for the types of coaches and people that they were,
Speaker 4: well Jim Young, yeah, you know, but but again Jim
Speaker 4: had such a short stay as well. Well, if you're
Speaker 4: talking coaches, yeah, but he was a really he was
Speaker 4: a I mean he came here and he took a
Speaker 4: bad team and made them good immediately that his first
Speaker 4: team went eight and three.
Speaker 3: No one goes before.
Speaker 4: Now you're going to go back to Pop McHale. But
Speaker 4: even then, you know, but yeah, no, yeah, Jim Young
Speaker 4: has to be in that conversation as well. You're you're
Speaker 4: absolutely right, and then yeah, let that one get past, right,
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