WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:05.360 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and 2 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:09.560 Jay Gonzalez Son Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova 3 00:00:09.679 --> 00:00:10.919 Insurance Services. 4 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:13.039 I'm sure your most prized. 5 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:16.640 Possessions kat z R TUCSA at iHeartRadio Station. 6 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:19.760 Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball 7 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:23.519 here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. Partner 8 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:26.160 is Jay Gonzalz and we got our gay Kwan in 9 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:29.640 today on a Friday, usual Friday for two hours. Should 10 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:32.039 be a fun. We have a different type of show. 11 00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:36.920 We have a person of misidentified No, no, not misidentified, uh, 12 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:42.320 miss misremembered, miss remembered. As usual, it's called a regular Tuesday, 13 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:46.600 called Tuesday. We have coach Eric Rodgers on. We wanted 14 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:49.240 to talk to him about coaching this year. But at 15 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:52.719 some point and he's at Bachelor's yes, which is fine 16 00:00:53.159 --> 00:00:54.920 high school. We want to know we have bache. He's 17 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:56.840 probably a bache of shopping, but he's at bachelor of 18 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:58.880 high school and we'll talk to him about maybe he'll 19 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:01.520 say something about his time at some point, you know, 20 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:03.799 and just all the things that go with that. Right, 21 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:06.959 And Tavier was pretty a candidate. What does he got 22 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:09.359 to lose right about. And there's no shock to us 23 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:12.359 that it's the parents that dictate a lot of the stuff. 24 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:13.599 A lot of that kind of stuff, particularly at a 25 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:16.799 private school like that right where where you know, parents 26 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:18.159 are putting you know, a lot of money in the 27 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:20.359 look and we're not doing this too, you know, to 28 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:23.359 bash piss off the sell Point folks and stuff like that. 29 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:26.959 And and maybe you know, the reality is that you 30 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:29.840 know what whatever is going on at soell Point is 31 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:33.359 going on everywhere else. You know, parents, parents, you know, 32 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:36.959 get knee deep in this stuff. And uh and as 33 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:38.879 we've said a number of times, the worst thing about 34 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:40.519 you know, coaching kids is the parents. 35 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:41.000 Parents. 36 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:43.439 And so we'll see, we'll see what he what he 37 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:45.400 has to say. But also you know, just get some 38 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:46.879 of his thoughts from where he sits. You know, what 39 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:50.319 he what he expects attitudes on coming out of tudes on. 40 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:52.920 This year right right, And obviously we all know that 41 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:55.239 we all know I want to generalize. Okay, this is 42 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:58.000 a generalization. Show a bunch of us know that you 43 00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:01.959 go to Phoenix, the competition, THEFF it's different, right and 44 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:03.959 you just got to be better if you want to 45 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:06.319 play better, and all that stuff. It's just there's more 46 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:09.680 people up there by tons and it's just the way 47 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:12.560 it is. So you know, it's no no fault on 48 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:14.159 his own that he took his son up there and 49 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:15.960 and he's coaching up. 50 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:17.919 There right and you know, probably feels like they're just 51 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:20.639 a better opportunity for in terms of, you know, if 52 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:24.919 he's a college of college level prospect, those kinds of things. 53 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:27.400 I know, I know if I could, I could have 54 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:30.680 or could have I would have tried to do that 55 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:32.280 and done that one of the kids. And you know, 56 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:34.560 my kids are fine here. It is what it is. 57 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:37.960 Uh but hey, so no no excuses, no no apologies, 58 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:40.319 no anything, Okay. And then in the second half we'll 59 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:43.319 have our usual guy, Jake Fisher coming on. We'll ask 60 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:45.520 him the same things we asked us some Lamont stuff 61 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:49.280 yesterday about interviews did it matter? And you know the 62 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:53.039 funny thing about it, he he he, along a few others, 63 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:55.960 alongside a few others, was one of the pioneers about 64 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:58.280 this nil stuff. I know he doesn't like talking about 65 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:00.800 it because he too didn't think it would be like this. 66 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:03.879 So maybe we'll kind of gently ask him, you know, 67 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:06.319 gently he gotta wanted to hit me. I don't want 68 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:07.919 he's one of our sponsor. I don't want him to 69 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:12.680 stop catching those checks, sending those checks. You know, gotta 70 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:16.599 be lightly I hear you. Okay, So that's the show 71 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:19.319 for today and we get closer. You were practice today, 72 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:22.840 I was, oh, you were not well. You explained you were. 73 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:23.840 You were there, but not there. 74 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.240 I showed up for the media session afterwards. We talked 75 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:30.879 to to Caryo Davis and Marquiscros Killer Brew along with 76 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:36.800 the cornerbacks coach Chim Binney. Good all stand up men. 77 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:40.800 You could just see it in their eyes. They're ready 78 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:41.560 for the season. 79 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:43.800 To start, right. What did you get out of Davis? 80 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:49.240 A very focused player. He talked about how he wants 81 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:52.400 to work on technique, work on the small things because 82 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.879 obviously he I'm pretty sure he'd let the Pac twelve 83 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:58.439 in pass break because he had fifteen last season. He 84 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:01.960 wants to finish those plays. He wants to not just 85 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:04.439 bat the ball down, catch it and do something with it. 86 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:06.080 Whole game was that I think it was? It was 87 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:09.639 it the Oregon State game where like three balls hit 88 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:13.159 him in the hands that he didn't catch the ball. 89 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:15.759 I remember, And then there was. The whole thing was, well, 90 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:17.800 that's why he's the defensive back and not a wide receiver. 91 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:20.240 But that's important too. 92 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:22.439 Yeah, I mean he was making plays. 93 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:25.759 Right, Yeah, sure, so that's good. And then when the 94 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:28.519 other guy was Marquis Gross Killer Brew. He's a transfer 95 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:32.279 from Louisville and Texas A and M. And how does 96 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:36.399 he look same? Same? He's a little bit smaller Caryo, 97 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:39.199 but Carrio is also I feel like big to the 98 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:40.399 college cornerback. 99 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:43.160 So Jay, and I'll ask you this to one. So 100 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:46.360 yesterday you brought up something that that I I'm not 101 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:50.079 offended by, but but it's it's a natural thinking process. 102 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:53.279 So the kid comes from from New Mexico, right, and 103 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:57.120 you kind of brought this up. He's stepping up a level, right, 104 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:59.160 and the question is can he handled the level? 105 00:04:59.240 --> 00:04:59.480 Right? 106 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:02.759 I'm surely be good at the higher If you're good, 107 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:05.199 you're good in my mind. But maybe there's something there, 108 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:09.079 but your thoughts of can he will he soon to see? Right? 109 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:09.279 Right? 110 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:11.160 So, now you have a kid going from Louisville and 111 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:13.759 Texas A and M. You think that he's he should 112 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:16.560 be better, he should be better, right, He's and I 113 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:18.800 mentioned this all the time those who are familiar with 114 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:21.839 dog racing, a dog going to be going down to 115 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:24.279 A B in a C going to be what your 116 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:28.000 level of competition? Right, So my point is if you 117 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.279 can play, you can play. And you're thinking this guy 118 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.399 from Louisville in Texas, the name should Texas and am 119 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:35.720 should fit in, right, you're assuming. 120 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:39.519 That, well, yes, but also Steve, you also think, let's 121 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:43.240 use the case of of Bill Norton came from Georgia. Right, 122 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:45.480 he was as good, he was a good at defensive 123 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:49.720 lineman Arizona evergets he was really good, but he wasn't 124 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:51.920 good enough to play Georgia and that's why he came here. 125 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:55.399 So you know, there is something to that whole thing 126 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:58.480 of you know, there's another there's the levels. And so 127 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.920 you get a guy moving up and you go, okay, 128 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:04.680 you can he play. You got a guy moving down 129 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:08.079 and you assume that he can because otherwise Georgia wouldn't 130 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:11.680 have recruited him. So that the thing of the A, 131 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.480 B and C dogs is a perfect example. You know, 132 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.439 for those you know there are different grades in dog racing. 133 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:20.560 I often bet on the grade A dog moving to 134 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:22.560 great B, and I never bet. 135 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:24.240 On a great v dog moving to great and that's 136 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:24.759 a smart move. 137 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:26.360 And that was that was the thing that you did. 138 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.680 And sometimes you were right, sometimes you were wrong. Sure dogs. 139 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:32.680 And you know, same with players, you know, I mean, 140 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:35.920 you know, guys come from other from other places and 141 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:39.800 and you don't know, maybe they just didn't get an opportunity. Well, 142 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:41.839 here's another thing that that's a big part of I 143 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:42.639 can't remember who. 144 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:47.279 Was mentioned yesterday. Uh some player? So so Juan played 145 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:49.839 a little ball, right, So right, So you're you're freshman. 146 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:53.040 You're freshman going into a situation into college, right, and 147 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:57.199 you're facing seniors, juniors, sophomores. Now those dudes are gone, 148 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:01.639 your opportunity to play becomes better, so that your normOn example, 149 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:04.319 maybe if had he steady stayed, he would have been 150 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:07.000 able just to move along the line. But in today's world, 151 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:08.800 it's give me it now or I'm gone. 152 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:11.120 Okay. Two guys, two guys that come to mind when 153 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:15.240 we're talking about this. Jacob Cowing, he's a utap comes 154 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:17.600 to Arizona here a couple of years, as good a 155 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:20.399 receiver as you've ever had. Did he did he stick 156 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:21.240 in the NFL? 157 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:23.720 He's still I think he's still she should be with 158 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:25.000 the finders. 159 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:28.680 You know, and he made the step up and did 160 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:34.199 it well. Was was an impact guy at Arizona. The 161 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:38.319 dude that went to USC, singer, Dorian Singer, he's at Arizona, 162 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:41.759 tries to take the step up to USC. Nothing now 163 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:45.920 he's back at Utah. You know, you just don't know, right, 164 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:48.879 you don't know what what a guy can do. There's 165 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:52.279 no guarantees when a guy comes here from Georgia. Okay, 166 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:55.240 but there's no guarant but but there's also no guarantee 167 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:57.399 that he's going to be bad if somebody goes from 168 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:00.800 Arizona to USC, Ohio State or wherever. 169 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:03.959 I think. And one of my points was if you 170 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:07.360 kind of take the procedure of sophomore freshman sophomore, Yeah, 171 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:09.480 in time, it's gonna work out. 172 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:10.560 And there's guys that don't want to wait. 173 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:13.120 That's the deal I get that I get, And that's 174 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:14.839 the way of the world today. You know, this is 175 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:16.920 you You want it now and you don't want it 176 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:18.439 right away, especially in basketball. 177 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:21.560 Come in basketball, especially in basketball. Guy, you know, guys 178 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:25.959 who get who get, you know, get scholarships at Arizona Duke, 179 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:30.199 you know, can't wherever. They expect that they're among the 180 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:32.559 best in the country and they should be able to play. 181 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:34.759 I don't care who you got on your run right away, 182 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:35.879 that's what they think of, right well. 183 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:37.480 And they're here for a year to go to the 184 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:38.759 m right or. 185 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:40.919 Even to play a while, But they don't expect to 186 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:43.240 be sitting the bench as freshmen because they've never set 187 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:44.279 the bench ever. 188 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:47.519 I don't know if this maybe when we talk about 189 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:49.679 basketball down the road that I don't know if you 190 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:54.039 guys believe that with Caleb Love right pack ten back 191 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:57.200 twelve Player of the Year, a heck of a good player, 192 00:08:57.279 --> 00:08:59.320 heck of a all around player, kind of right right, 193 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:03.440 I'm not uh uh, but not good enough to play 194 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:03.879 in the NBA. 195 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:06.360 He may just be a really good college player. 196 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:08.799 And that's kind of where I was going. I'm wondering, 197 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:12.200 uh And nobody pays attention to other people, but the 198 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:15.039 other guy's thinking, God, how good do I have to 199 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:16.960 be to play at the next level? 200 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:20.360 If he can't, If he can't right now, yeah, and 201 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:22.759 maybe at the end of this year he will correct, 202 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:25.559 But today he was not good enough to get in 203 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:28.399 the NBA. And you're right, you see if you're you know, 204 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:33.039 if you're uh uh kyleon Boswell, if you're you know 205 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:37.559 he was here last year. If you're you know, uh, 206 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:39.159 Jayden Bradley, you're one of those guy you go, wait 207 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:43.039 a minute. He was really really good and he was 208 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:45.519 not good enough. How good do I have to get? 209 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:48.080 It happens all the time. I mean, look at just 210 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.000 a bad example because of the way he played the 211 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:54.399 Trier Alonzo Trier who who who didn't get much a 212 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:57.919 claim going into the NBA. He was unbelievable while for 213 00:09:57.960 --> 00:09:59.799 a while and they give him a huge contract to 214 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:02.279 he lasted maybe a year, year and a half and 215 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:04.080 that was what was last time you slaw's name? 216 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:05.559 Uh, I don't know. 217 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:07.919 And it was more about him being selfish with the ball. 218 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:09.759 And we put up the mount Rushmore and bad guys. 219 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:12.440 Right, well, he's more about selfish ball being If he 220 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:16.679 was a more gracious player or you know, giving player 221 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:19.679 player or a team player that's the word. Uh, he 222 00:10:19.679 --> 00:10:21.960 would have had a better career, I think, Yeah, but 223 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.559 he but he's not and that's not the NBA, right. 224 00:10:25.639 --> 00:10:27.879 Yeah, So no, yeah, I hear you. You know, I 225 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:30.000 mean Seline Stottlemyer is another guy right in that in 226 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:32.080 that mode, right, I had all the talent in the world. 227 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:34.200 We could a shooter as there would have been in 228 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:39.279 the NBA, not just college. And yet you know there 229 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:41.720 was there were pieces of him that weren't a fit, right, 230 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:42.559 and he never made. 231 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:45.000 Well that year? Come on, who was a better shoot shooter? 232 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:49.279 Him or or Reddick? That whole year? It was back 233 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:51.279 and forth, back and forth, and maybe Selem was better 234 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:54.639 and Ridick had a sixteen seventeen year and I was 235 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:58.080 the head coach, right and Seleem is where he's at, 236 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:00.360 which is you know it is what it is? 237 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:04.279 Yeah, No, I hear you. It's a it's a it's 238 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:07.679 a it's look and it's really a player by player 239 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:11.840 thing because you just don't know, you know, from each like, yeah, 240 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:17.559 I mean is this running back Jaquory? What's nick meyrit 241 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:18.799 something right or something there? 242 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:19.240 Bill? 243 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:21.279 Bill? 244 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.600 Yeah, he's number one by you know, he may be 245 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:30.399 as good as Arizona his hat right, you're yesterday, I 246 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:32.799 mean he's really he looks like he's really damn good. 247 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:35.399 And you know, Lamon loved it on the show yesterday 248 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:38.759 said he loves his body, he loves his feet, He 249 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:43.159 looks like he's the guy, but we also said we're 250 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:44.480 not going to know till the lights go on. 251 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:47.840 I'll give you another name, two star Scoop. Right, he 252 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:50.120 shows up here, no one thought, no one thought, and 253 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:53.120 he was this unbelievable guy, goes to the next level 254 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:55.720 and then turns out to be Okay, yeah. 255 00:11:55.759 --> 00:11:58.279 Dude, yeah there comes You know, you get to a 256 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.440 point where you have to have certain physical capabilities to 257 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:04.440 play at the highest level. I mean you maybe you 258 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:06.440 may have all the heart in the world, you may 259 00:12:06.519 --> 00:12:09.080 have all the desire, you may have all the intangibles, 260 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:12.759 but you still have to have the physicalness event And 261 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:16.480 you know, Scooby was a little slow, right right, right, small, 262 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:19.639 a little smallish and and in the end, you know 263 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:22.639 you need to have all of what he had plus 264 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.039 then you also have to have the other. 265 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:26.799 So so, given you followed it for the last ten years, 266 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:30.080 right pretty much, who are your players that you thought, Okay, wow, 267 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:32.039 this is cool and you wanted to get You're probably 268 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:34.120 one of those not hill gangs. Give me your gloves, 269 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:35.840 give me your gloves. Who are those guys? 270 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:40.679 Definitely Scooby Scooby To this day, I remember the first 271 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:43.000 time I heard his name was. They played at Colorado. 272 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.320 He made a sack and I was like Scooby, Scooby, 273 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:48.120 So I just tried to follow him. You made the 274 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.879 play against the Oregon and the next year he had 275 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:54.919 a spectacular season. One that comes to mind every time 276 00:12:55.039 --> 00:12:56.279 is Jared Tevis. 277 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:57.879 Oh yeah, we talked about him yesterday. 278 00:12:58.360 --> 00:12:59.679 I wish you would have gotten a shot. 279 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:04.320 The another guy undersized, uh walk on. 280 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:07.799 You feel like he got the most out of what he. 281 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:09.519 Had, no question, and then he had to wait his 282 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:11.840 time to We talked about that. He didn't play much, 283 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:15.080 play much, and then his senior shine Jacob Jake, Jake, 284 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:19.080 we'll talk well because Jake fits that mold exactly. Yeah, 285 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:22.960 you know, and then he got hurt all these injuries timing, Yeah, yeah. 286 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:26.120 But you know, yeah, I mean Jake. I'm sure Jake 287 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.279 will will tell us. You know, I had to play 288 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:30.519 with a little more determination, a little more heart, because 289 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:32.679 I was, you know, a little short on some of 290 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:36.120 the other stuff. You know that that he wasn't built 291 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:39.679 like a Ricky Hunley or Lamont Hunley or you know, uh, 292 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:44.000 Lance Briggs or one of those guys. You know. So yeah, 293 00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:47.399 you know, you gotta you gotta get something from somewhere, 294 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:50.399 and usually it's from within, right, And then that's the 295 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:53.480 thing that you and I don't don't have, don't understand. 296 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:57.559 And at that next level, they all have that, including 297 00:13:57.759 --> 00:14:00.440 everything else, including all the other and if they don't 298 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:03.120 have that and they have the skills, they don't last 299 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:05.039 long because you need to have. 300 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:07.120 That, right, You have to have it at some point. Yeah, 301 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:07.879 at some. 302 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:10.399 Point, because they'd run you over. They'd run you over. 303 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:12.559 You just can't be a dude who's just happy to 304 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:14.559 be here. No, No, you have to have some dog in. 305 00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:16.559 That's why a guy like Teddy Bruce gets amazing in 306 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:21.399 the career that he because he was close, closer in 307 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:23.840 terms of having the physical attributes, but he was still 308 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:27.000 a little shy. But well, the amount of guts and 309 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:29.480 heart that he had made up for what little bit 310 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:29.960 he was shot. 311 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:33.559 Who better describes that than Chuck Cecil. 312 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:37.879 Yeah, right right. You know he still wears like one hundred. 313 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:39.639 And forty and you don't want to get him in 314 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:43.720 a in a situation where you kicked your ass exactly. Okay, 315 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:45.159 we got to go. 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