Speaker 1: In that way writer rages. Everything gets caught.
Speaker 2: Right in the traps, brother, right in the traps, And
Speaker 2: I got so much to say. Dude, where do we
Speaker 2: start this bad boy off out?
Speaker 1: Well, I think that we should start with I don't know.
Speaker 1: I got an interesting picture the other day from my
Speaker 1: roommate uh So Toronto. There's a bunch of like tagged
Speaker 1: swans that they they I think they relocate them over
Speaker 1: the winter, they bring them in the summer. And one
Speaker 1: of those tag swan was being carried down the road
Speaker 1: by a gentleman the other day presumably if presumably for dinner.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, mm hmmm, dude, this thing is so ridiculous,
Speaker 2: Like they're like, they're not they're not eating animal Like
Speaker 2: I literally seen a video of a Haitian dude literally
Speaker 2: eating the cat alive.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's like it.
Speaker 2: Wasn't in Ohio, but it was legitimately happening. It was
Speaker 2: in Haiti, but it was a a Haitian guy literally
Speaker 2: eating the neck of a cat.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's why you can google that. It's very easy.
Speaker 1: Like Haitians eat cats. They don't do it like on
Speaker 1: a regular They do it sometimes if they can't find
Speaker 1: anything else, but it's also a form of delicacy to them.
Speaker 1: So it's not absurd to think that people who came
Speaker 1: from a country where they do something would still do
Speaker 1: that thing when they came to another country, especially if
Speaker 1: nobody's told them that they're not supposed to. That's the thing,
Speaker 1: And we had one in Canada just recently. There's like
Speaker 1: protections on salmon, especially when they're spawning, but some of
Speaker 1: our rivers here get so congested with salmon that like,
Speaker 1: I did this when I was a kid. I actually
Speaker 1: got a fine for it that my aunt had to
Speaker 1: pay because on where her trailer park was there was
Speaker 1: a river and the salmon would get so congested there
Speaker 1: they could literally walk in and pick up a salmon
Speaker 1: and walk away with it. And so I did. I
Speaker 1: went in, I scooped up a salmon, and I walked
Speaker 1: it up to the trailer and I, you know, clean
Speaker 1: it and we ate it for dinner, and a little
Speaker 1: bit as we're eating it, the gaming wildlife dude shows
Speaker 1: up and being like, we got a report that you
Speaker 1: took a salmon out of the river today by hand
Speaker 1: or no, they said, by net is what they said.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I did it by hand right, because
Speaker 1: I was like, I think I was like twelve or
Speaker 1: something at the time.
Speaker 2: What do you think I can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was it. I was actually kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't even need a net I did it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's uh. It ended up being he was
Speaker 1: very apologetic about it, but he was like, that's illegal.
Speaker 1: There's a fine, and here's the fine.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So it was funny because that clip of people doing
Speaker 1: that recently here in Canada went to social media. I
Speaker 1: saw it on x and all the defenders coming in
Speaker 1: being like, it's not illegal, it's not illegal, it's not illegal.
Speaker 1: They can do that. They can do that, they can
Speaker 1: do that. It's like no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: they can't. Like if I can't do it, they can't
Speaker 1: do it either. It should be the rule, right, But apparently.
Speaker 2: I've seen whenever I was growing up, I had this guy.
Speaker 2: He was kind of like a savage guy, but he
Speaker 2: would he was like an outdoorsman and everything, and I
Speaker 2: literally watched him grab a fish out of a lake,
Speaker 2: which it was his own private lake, like he lived
Speaker 2: on the property where this lake was. It was his
Speaker 2: family's lake, and he grabbed a fish out of the
Speaker 2: lake with his bare hands and then started eating the
Speaker 2: fish raw, like right out of his hands. I was like, bro,
Speaker 2: what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 2: By then, but at that time, I never had like
Speaker 2: raw fish, like I had never had like sushi or
Speaker 2: anything like that. I was like, I didn't even know
Speaker 2: that you could do that, dude, I didn't even know
Speaker 2: that you can just take a bite out of a
Speaker 2: fish like that, like just caught with your bare hands.
Speaker 2: It's wild.
Speaker 1: Well, technically you can do that with just about anything.
Speaker 1: It's whether or not he wants to. I think it's
Speaker 1: the question in a lot of cases.
Speaker 2: But yeah, when you have all these poor people that
Speaker 2: are just being shuffled into this this town, and because
Speaker 2: the excuse that I've seen a lot is like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: that's just a part of their culture. That's just what
Speaker 2: they do. And I'm like, well, I'm not debating that.
Speaker 2: It's just like you can't do that in the United States.
Speaker 2: It's like there's laws against doing that. You just you
Speaker 2: just don't eat like people's pets. In regardless of his
Speaker 2: people's pets are not, it's still like animals.
Speaker 1: You know, like we have roots for that stuff in
Speaker 1: these countries that nobody told them about you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, And it's it's kind of funny because it's
Speaker 1: not being enforced either, Like they're getting out with no
Speaker 1: real trouble. Yeah, the the fact that it's happening isn't
Speaker 1: a surprise, and it's not like anyone's just angry that
Speaker 1: it's happening. I think what people are angry but is
Speaker 1: the fact that nobody's doing anything to stop it. In fact,
Speaker 1: people are going out of their way to excuse it,
Speaker 1: which doesn't make any sense. People are constantly doing all
Speaker 1: these mental gymnastics to tell us why it's okay or
Speaker 1: that it's not happening, instead of just being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a problem, we should do something about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had I've heard people say, well, it wasn't
Speaker 2: the Haitians that was there before. Those those Haitians lived
Speaker 2: with them very peacefully and everything was all wild. It's
Speaker 2: this new group of Haitians that came in that is
Speaker 2: the problem. I'm like, what kind of was screwed up? Justification?
Speaker 2: Is that, like it makes absolutely no sense. I mean,
Speaker 2: and then on the other hand, they're like, oh, well
Speaker 2: it's not really happening, but it is happening, but and
Speaker 2: we're gonna give you all the excuses of why that
Speaker 2: it's not. It's wild, dude, Like, and then everyone was
Speaker 2: like kind of making fun of it, and I kind
Speaker 2: of joined in on that too, because like, I don't
Speaker 2: think anything should be off limits, Like if it's funny,
Speaker 2: it's funny, Like you should be able to post about
Speaker 2: it and make memes about it if it's funny. But still,
Speaker 2: I'm accused of being like a hardcore Trump supporter and
Speaker 2: that I'm going to vote for Trump and I'm trying
Speaker 2: to convince people to vote for Trump, which makes absolutely
Speaker 2: no sense. I've actually been I've posted memes about that
Speaker 2: is not in his favor right, But for some reason,
Speaker 2: whenever I make comments about the attempted assassinations on Trump,
Speaker 2: like people get so angry, dude, and like I really
Speaker 2: don't understand it. I don't know what they want, Like
Speaker 2: what do you want? Like what side are you actually
Speaker 2: on here? That's the weirdest part about it. It's like
Speaker 2: they're they're they can't be on the left and they
Speaker 2: can't be on the right, but they're they're just in
Speaker 2: there in the middle, but they're kind of swayed more
Speaker 2: towards the left for the as much stuff as that
Speaker 2: they as much as they hate on Trump, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And and they're kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: more like Kamala's camp, like for a lot of the
Speaker 2: people that claim to like not be involved in politics
Speaker 2: and not care about it and think that it's all
Speaker 2: a joke and it's all stage and everything is fake
Speaker 2: and all this garbage and that voting doesn't matter. Like
Speaker 2: they they seem to be not they want to be
Speaker 2: on They can't be on one side or the other.
Speaker 2: But yet they don't. They post more about one side
Speaker 2: than they do that. I don't know if that makes
Speaker 2: sense or not.
Speaker 1: No, it's a there's a clear bias there, and they're
Speaker 1: just trying to hide the bias behind something else. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I've seen other people because there's a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: on the left side that gets shared that's not true,
Speaker 1: and if you try to point that out to someone,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll literally say something to the effect of, well,
Speaker 1: we got to do whatever we can to make sure
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump doesn't get elected. So it's okay if
Speaker 1: we're sharing something that's not true. It's okay if we're
Speaker 1: saying that something isn't true. When it is because we
Speaker 1: need to put out that message that Trump is bad
Speaker 1: and if you really really want to save the world,
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to vote for the other person.
Speaker 2: Which makes absolutely no sense everything that Trump said in
Speaker 2: the debate. Did you watch to the debate?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, why wouldn't you watch it? It's just
Speaker 2: freaking incredible. We live in incredible times, and people to
Speaker 2: say that we don't live in the best of times
Speaker 2: are fooling and kidding themselves. In the debate, like everything
Speaker 2: that Trump said he has done before. Like literally everything
Speaker 2: that he said that he's going to do whenever he
Speaker 2: becomes president again, he has done before. He has a
Speaker 2: track record. Kamala is currently in office and she's promising
Speaker 2: all these things, which there's nothing to verify or back
Speaker 2: up that anything that she's saying. And she really didn't
Speaker 2: even say anything out of that debate because I was
Speaker 2: looking for, like, you know, tell us something, give us
Speaker 2: some kind of policy or something that you're going to do,
Speaker 2: and she didn't say anything, absolutely nothing. I came out
Speaker 2: of that debate having no idea what she's going to
Speaker 2: do about anything. All she did was say how bad
Speaker 2: Trump's policies are and what he's going to do. It's
Speaker 2: a classic tactic. It's literally like Family Guy. You remember
Speaker 2: that Family Guy episode of when Lois was running for
Speaker 2: mayor and she gets up there and she starts trying
Speaker 2: to explain things in like great detail and like the
Speaker 2: people aren't having it. And then she goes off the
Speaker 2: stage and Brian's like, you gotta take you gotta do
Speaker 2: some very simple, easy answers. And they when they go
Speaker 2: up in there and ask her question is she just
Speaker 2: says nine eleven, nine to eleven was bad, and everyone's
Speaker 2: just cheering and yelling like that's what that's what. It
Speaker 2: seemed like, that's what was going on there. And you'd
Speaker 2: have to be dumber than a box of rocks to
Speaker 2: think that she won that debate, like you'd have to be,
Speaker 2: I mean, and there's things that Trump said too, they
Speaker 2: weren't necessarily accurate. He flubbed up a couple of times.
Speaker 2: You originally said that it was in West Virginia that
Speaker 2: the previous governor was saying that he would have or
Speaker 2: babies that were already born, which isn't true. That wasn't
Speaker 2: in West Virginia. Was it was in Virginia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's an easy stake though, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like that's a difference of a like that's
Speaker 1: a mistake, that's not like lying, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is true that governor literally did say.
Speaker 2: I remember watching it on Alex Jones, well on Joe
Speaker 2: Rogan when Alex Jones was on there, and I think
Speaker 2: two thousand and eighteen or nineteen. It was the one
Speaker 2: that you can't find anywhere online. But he was talking
Speaker 2: about that, and they showed the play the video of
Speaker 2: the Governor of Virginia saying, oh, when well, when the
Speaker 2: baby is worn, we'll make sure the baby is very comfortable,
Speaker 2: and we will take care of the baby. If the
Speaker 2: baby doesn't want to if the mother doesn't want the baby,
Speaker 2: then we will take care of the baby. Like it's wild,
Speaker 2: but I think that he just needed to he needed
Speaker 2: to do like what he did with the ursus joke
Speaker 2: by debate, you know, just let Biden like bury himself,
Speaker 2: you know. But the weird thing about it was ran
Speaker 2: out the gate. There wasn't any audience. This is one
Speaker 2: of the I think this is the only presidential debate
Speaker 2: that I've ever witnessed that I can recall that didn't
Speaker 2: have an audience.
Speaker 1: Nothing about these debates is correct. There's supposed to be
Speaker 1: three they're supposed to be about specific topics, not about
Speaker 1: just whatever. And you're not supposed to be bringing up
Speaker 1: like stuff that happened four years ago in a lot
Speaker 1: of cases that don't have anything to do with the
Speaker 1: upcoming election for real, And you're supposed to the moderators
Speaker 1: aren't supposed to give opinions on things, right, which that
Speaker 1: David Muir guy definitely was doing. Like I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: just don't believe that, you know, like, well, that's not
Speaker 1: your place to even say, like you forget what your
Speaker 1: role is. Oh yeah, your role is to placate to
Speaker 1: the lady on the stage, and then that's what it was.
Speaker 1: Or even when the abode or something was brought up,
Speaker 1: just how quick that lady from ABC was to be
Speaker 1: like that is not happening anywhere where, quite literally, it's
Speaker 1: not even just Virginia. There are other other states that
Speaker 1: do it, so it's not just Virginia. Even so that
Speaker 1: wasn't correct, And just the amount of times like Kamala
Speaker 1: was allowed camp Kamala was allowed to get away with
Speaker 1: you know, not telling the truth about facts right, about
Speaker 1: things that are actually happening. When Trump lies, he's lying
Speaker 1: about himself. My audience was the biggest. It was the greatest.
Speaker 1: Everybody was the happiest, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: that's the guys. He doesn't lie about what he's actually
Speaker 1: doing in terms of his role as president. He just doesn't.
Speaker 1: He's actually been disgustingly honest about that, which people hated
Speaker 1: if you remember when he was because he's done bad things, guys,
Speaker 1: if we forget, like what he was bomb in Syria.
Speaker 1: He's like, they got that's oil and we want their oil,
Speaker 1: you know, like he was honest about it. He's like,
Speaker 1: we were gonna pull troops out of there, but we
Speaker 1: can because we need the oil. You know, He's he's
Speaker 1: honest about that part of things. He lies about himself.
Speaker 1: I would much rather have someone in that position who
Speaker 1: lies about themselves than lies about situations right, and lies
Speaker 1: about facts and lies about information like that. Lady was
Speaker 1: able to just go throw out the good, very fine
Speaker 1: people thing, which is a hoax that is so much
Speaker 1: a hoax that even Snopes admits that soaks you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like the Charlestown. Thing like that has
Speaker 1: all been thrown out. So many things that people hate
Speaker 1: on him about are not true. And I bump into
Speaker 1: this all the time, like recently even with my mother
Speaker 1: and my own kid, where they like were giving me
Speaker 1: reasons why they didn't like him, and none of them
Speaker 1: were true. And like I remember my kid being like, huh, well,
Speaker 1: one thing we can all agree on is he's fucking stupid.
Speaker 1: I was like, we can agree on that, you know,
Speaker 1: but still it's like.
Speaker 2: It's funny, dude, He's he's like a comedian dude, and
Speaker 2: that's like what the country needs, That's what the I mean,
Speaker 2: That's what I liked about him, And whenever he was
Speaker 2: president is like he got up there and he told
Speaker 2: it straightforward how it actually is. And that's what I've
Speaker 2: ran into personally myself as well. You know, you get
Speaker 2: a lot of pushback and a lot of hate from
Speaker 2: people whenever you tell them something straight up and straightforward. Right.
Speaker 2: He's not playing like a political game. He's up there
Speaker 2: just telling the American public exactly what's going on. And
Speaker 2: people don't like that. They have never liked that. And
Speaker 2: that's what I've realized within this community too. Within the
Speaker 2: truth of community, within the conspiracy community, being doing a
Speaker 2: show like mine, doing a show like yours, people do
Speaker 2: not like it when you tell them things straight up
Speaker 2: and straightforward and tell them exactly what's going on. They
Speaker 2: just automatically rebel against it every single time. It doesn't
Speaker 2: matter what the topic is, right, And that's what I've discovered,
Speaker 2: is that you have to spoon feed to them, like
Speaker 2: if you don't want the pushback, right, if you don't
Speaker 2: want the people coming after you for telling them straight
Speaker 2: up that aliens aren't real and like all that shit,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, if you don't want that,
Speaker 2: then then you have to like sugarcoat it, you know,
Speaker 2: and you have to use buzzwords, and you have to
Speaker 2: use the conspiracy truth or language within that to not
Speaker 2: get the pushback from people, because it's like whenever you
Speaker 2: speak the conspiracy truth or language, it's almost like they
Speaker 2: kind of don't know exactly what you're talking about, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like they have like a little
Speaker 2: hint of what's going on, but they don't really actually know.
Speaker 2: So therefore it's hard for them to come back at
Speaker 2: you with anything because they don't know exactly what you're
Speaker 2: what it is that you're referring to.
Speaker 1: I used to play this game with an ex girlfriend
Speaker 1: because she wasn't in conspiracies, and I naturally write cryptically,
Speaker 1: especially I use. I don't do it so much anymore,
Speaker 1: but I used to write a lot of cryptic stuff
Speaker 1: because songs, right, I write a lot of lyrics. You
Speaker 1: have to leave it a kind of open up to interpretation, poetry,
Speaker 1: things like that. I was used to writing in that way,
Speaker 1: and so like there was like a time where I
Speaker 1: was just explaining to her that I can make people
Speaker 1: believe anything based on what I write, and you know,
Speaker 1: she didn't believe it. So I was just throwing like
Speaker 1: cryptic messages at people and seeing how they responded, and
Speaker 1: you know, to me, it had no meaning, Like it
Speaker 1: really didn't mean anything. But people were, oh, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I can't exactly what you mean. That's been happening for
Speaker 1: me too. Like that kind of stuff is what people
Speaker 1: do when you leave that in. If there's an empty space,
Speaker 1: we want to fill in that empty space, then people
Speaker 1: will do that. And the unfortunate reality with this movement
Speaker 1: is it's been part of an agenda that has to
Speaker 1: do with our feelings and teaching us on one hand
Speaker 1: that our feelings are intelligence, but also hyper focusing on
Speaker 1: that as the only intelligence, and you should negate everything else.
Speaker 1: And so what we see is that everyone's married to
Speaker 1: their ideas or their narratives, or they're emotionally invested in
Speaker 1: whatever it is. And when we are that way, we
Speaker 1: filter out information that invalidates whatever that is, and we'll
Speaker 1: hyper focus on little data points that validate whatever that is.
Speaker 1: And the bigger movements that have gone through our conspiracy
Speaker 1: community have proven that, like QAnon, our Tartario or any
Speaker 1: of that, where it requires you to completely disregard about
Speaker 1: twenty data points and hyper focus on one and build
Speaker 1: a big narrative behind that in order for it to
Speaker 1: be possible and real, because for whatever reason, we don't
Speaker 1: like that other twenty data points, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: It's because that's what's happening. Everyone's bypassing thinking straight into
Speaker 1: the feeling. There's intelligence there, it's very important. But what
Speaker 1: has happened is a pendulum swing. We had it like
Speaker 1: so suppressed for so long, and then someone came along
Speaker 1: and went whoof, And now everybody's like way up there
Speaker 1: with it, not realizing that where we want to be
Speaker 1: is somewhere down here, right, So I don't know, I
Speaker 1: get it because that's a natural human function. It's just
Speaker 1: unfortunate to see it work so well and have people
Speaker 1: just cherry pick their facts, cherry pick who the listen
Speaker 1: to in terms of facts. Right, Like I'm going to
Speaker 1: throw out a broken clock is right twice a day.
Speaker 1: We don't have to throw out entire speakers just because
Speaker 1: you don't agree with one part of what they say either. Right,
Speaker 1: if a reporter you hate presents a true story, you
Speaker 1: should be able to just accept that true story and
Speaker 1: not go can't be true it came from somebody I hate.
Speaker 2: But that's that's That's been my point. And like what
Speaker 2: I've been trying to get across to these people, and
Speaker 2: they just don't. It just goes over their head. And
Speaker 2: I just made a post earlier today that, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of categorize this whole thing into like how exactly
Speaker 2: I felt about it, And I'm just going to read
Speaker 2: the post because I think that it's important. It says
Speaker 2: that the greatest conspiracy of all isn't the false flags,
Speaker 2: the line by the media, the staged events, the JFK assassination,
Speaker 2: the moon landing, nine to eleven COVID. It's something much bigger.
Speaker 2: The conspiracy is that we believe that all of these
Speaker 2: things are conspiracies. The conspiracy is the conspiracy is designed
Speaker 2: to implode critical thinking, common sense, to make you question
Speaker 2: yourself and question your own thinking, ultimately leading to confusion
Speaker 2: and no longer knowing what to believe, which we've talked
Speaker 2: about that several times on my show, Shane. We've brought
Speaker 2: up the Arack Obama him talking about you know, if
Speaker 2: you flood the community with as much conspiracy theorizing, then
Speaker 2: it makes it to where people no longer know what
Speaker 2: to believe, which is verbat in what Uri Besmanov was
Speaker 2: also talking about in nineteen eighty four that exact same
Speaker 2: freaking thing. But these things have back to the post.
Speaker 2: These things have been done on purpose, and they're used
Speaker 2: to benefit the controllers and manipulators, to demoralize, destabilize, and debasis.
Speaker 2: This is done on such a large covert scale that
Speaker 2: it flies directly over the top of the heads of
Speaker 2: many people because it's so nefarious, sick and demented that
Speaker 2: we can't see it. And I think that that just
Speaker 2: really encompasses the entire truther or conspiracy community, and people
Speaker 2: haven't come to that conclusion yet, but it's the logical step.
Speaker 2: And at the end of the post, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: by the time you guys figure this out, because this
Speaker 2: is something about me. To Shane is like, and this
Speaker 2: isn't about ego or me making myself out to be,
Speaker 2: you know, a bigger than I am. I'm obviously, you know,
Speaker 2: pretty much a nobody, but I've always been ahead of
Speaker 2: the curve. Like I've always been ahead of people's the
Speaker 2: majority of people's thinking and thought process. So it doesn't
Speaker 2: let me fit into and I'm sure you've experienced this
Speaker 2: as well, as I've learned a lot from you as well,
Speaker 2: and your open mindedness and being able to feed off
Speaker 2: of each other. But it doesn't let us fit into
Speaker 2: any like group of people or any like category because
Speaker 2: we're so far ahead of what people are currently thinking.
Speaker 2: By the time that they catch up to what we're
Speaker 2: currently thinking, we're already off onto some other word, into
Speaker 2: the freaking stratosphere, onto something completely different. And then then
Speaker 2: they attack us for that new thing that we're saying,
Speaker 2: and then it takes them a long time to catch
Speaker 2: up to that thing, and then by that time we're
Speaker 2: onto something else completely different, and it's just a repeating
Speaker 2: cycle over and over again. But that's really how it's been,
Speaker 2: really since I was like a teenager, is like I
Speaker 2: always hung out with people that were way older than me,
Speaker 2: that were way wiser than me, that actually had knowledge
Speaker 2: and things that I could learn from. And I felt
Speaker 2: like that I was just so far mentally ahead of
Speaker 2: a lot of my peers. And that just seems to
Speaker 2: be the way that it is. And again that's not
Speaker 2: me being egotistical or anything. That's just you know, a
Speaker 2: self reflection thing that I've discovered in the past. You know,
Speaker 2: a couple of.
Speaker 1: Weeks, definitely noticed an uptick within at least the people
Speaker 1: I interact with within this community of people finally starting
Speaker 1: to get that, you know that there's you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of traps built into this stuff. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of dead end rabbit holes that can consume you forever,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of just you know, nonsense that
Speaker 1: doesn't serve anybody to do better, right, And I don't know,
Speaker 1: the people are starting to notice, like the nihilistic, solipsistic
Speaker 1: kind of you know nothing is real, and therefore I
Speaker 1: shouldn't believe in anything type attitude that's rising in people
Speaker 1: as being dangerous. And you know, I'm sure we've said
Speaker 1: it at one point in time, but you know the
Speaker 1: danger of losing that line is it's the line between
Speaker 1: right wrong, correct or incorrect right, evil and good right.
Speaker 1: And that's that's a line that we do need to
Speaker 1: have focus on because if we start making that line
Speaker 1: too big or make it disappear altogether, that is an
Speaker 1: invitation for the people who would like to do evil
Speaker 1: to just do it freely. And that's a problem. And yeah,
Speaker 1: there's ways to avoid problems before we get there. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: with a lot of this stuff, I've been saying for
Speaker 1: a while, we're way past that off ramp. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think that it's still worth repeating because more and
Speaker 1: more people are starting to wake up to it, just
Speaker 1: like more and more people are starting to wake up
Speaker 1: to the fact that there's conspiracies at all, More and
Speaker 1: more people are starting to wake up to what you're saying,
Speaker 1: that the conspiracies are part of the conspiracy too, right,
Speaker 1: And there's obviously a big message within my blog that
Speaker 1: they fed us all of this information knowing that we
Speaker 1: were going to have the internet, we were going to
Speaker 1: do this with it, and here we are now, and
Speaker 1: unfortunately a lot of people haven't got that memo and
Speaker 1: made that adjustment within themselves. Yet. That's a lot of
Speaker 1: trouble when we get into seasons like we're at right now,
Speaker 1: with an election coming up, and we're in a situation
Speaker 1: like we are where there's like at least two major
Speaker 1: catalysts for a world war possible any second, you know,
Speaker 1: And and on top of that, there's I actually did
Speaker 1: end up watching that Civil War movie you know, no way,
Speaker 1: I watched it last night, Yeah, because we talked about
Speaker 1: it and it ended up being on Amazon the next day.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is yeah, I mean, I was like,
Speaker 2: I watched it, like immediately.
Speaker 1: It's a terrible fucking movie.
Speaker 2: But it's a horrible movie.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like that, that programming is what I'm more more.
Speaker 1: They're really programming for that, Like they're really turning, especially
Speaker 1: in Newer Country, everyone against each other. And what I'm
Speaker 1: starting to see is not only is that happening within
Speaker 1: my country, but we're also starting to develop an attitude
Speaker 1: like that again about you guys, Like I can't remember
Speaker 1: how many Canadian Canadians actually messaged me to go like, oh,
Speaker 1: look at all that crazy stuff going on on the
Speaker 1: other side of the border. Ray Like, guys, we're five
Speaker 1: years ahead of them, Like we're five years of what
Speaker 1: happens if they do elect Kamala. Right, if they do
Speaker 1: elect Kamala, where they're going to be five years from
Speaker 1: then is where we are right now. So we have
Speaker 1: nothing to say to them. But that attitude is coming
Speaker 1: back as well because of the clown show that's going
Speaker 1: on down there. But everybody's eyes are off the prize,
Speaker 1: everybody's eyes are off the ball. Nobody's really noticing because
Speaker 1: everyone's got their thing. And that was something I started
Speaker 1: warning about in twenty twenty two, like if you're not
Speaker 1: outraged yet, your things coming right, Like that thing that's
Speaker 1: gonna gonna get you all up in here, it's coming.
Speaker 1: And I think just about everyone's got their thing out
Speaker 1: there now and it's having the predictable results.
Speaker 2: And I'll admit I kind of got that with them,
Speaker 2: like you or someone attempting to assassinate the former president
Speaker 2: in the current Republican nominee for president twice like twice, now,
Speaker 2: Like what what do you people are not understanding, like
Speaker 2: what they just tried to kill this man two times
Speaker 2: and they're in everyone in the community a steake, oh
Speaker 2: at stage.
Speaker 1: And well that's what he gets, you know, all being
Speaker 1: being hitler, Like that's what he gets.
Speaker 2: Right, If he was going to be hitler, he would
Speaker 2: already have done it. If Kamala was going to save
Speaker 2: the country and do everything she was gonna plan, she
Speaker 2: would already have done it. Now this is it. This
Speaker 2: isn't the same because I think when people hear me say,
Speaker 2: you know, they talk about the Trump assassination that believed
Speaker 2: that it was staged and and fake, especially the first one,
Speaker 2: like they were immediately like a stage of stake. It
Speaker 2: wasn't real. He cut his ear with a freaking and
Speaker 2: uh w w e razorblade whenever he knelt down behind
Speaker 2: the thing. And that's not me to say that things
Speaker 2: aren't staged and things aren't planned. And you know, we
Speaker 2: know that the problem reaction solution thing is a really
Speaker 2: big thing that that they have you know, implemented really well.
Speaker 2: And you know, we know the Gulf of Tonkin incident,
Speaker 2: which was a huge false flag incident, gets involved in
Speaker 2: the Vietnam war, which the person that actually did that
Speaker 2: was Jim Morrison's dad.
Speaker 1: She's so wild man, don't do it.
Speaker 2: But Jim Morrison of the doors. And And it's not
Speaker 2: to say that we haven't been lied to. It's not
Speaker 2: to say that the media hasn't continuous lied to us.
Speaker 2: It's not to say that that there isn't false flags,
Speaker 2: that there isn't staged events. Right, But once you figure
Speaker 2: the there's only really two directions that you can go
Speaker 2: with that. You either keep believing in the bullshit, in
Speaker 2: the nonsense that they're trying to propagandalize you to believe,
Speaker 2: or you go a completely different route, and that route
Speaker 2: normally leads to extreme nihilism. That route leads to, oh, well,
Speaker 2: if these events were staged this many times in the past,
Speaker 2: then that means that everything after this is also staged
Speaker 2: in fate. And that is not a good outlook on
Speaker 2: life to have. Like you just don't think about events
Speaker 2: like that. Every event is its own unique situation that
Speaker 2: needs to be analyzed differently.
Speaker 1: Even our perspective on them. Because we found out about
Speaker 1: all of those old ones. In hindsight, Yes, at the time,
Speaker 1: like September twelfth, the majority of the people who right
Speaker 1: now would say what they would say about Dever eleven
Speaker 1: weren't saying that. It weren't you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like as someone who knew what was up, then that's
Speaker 1: not what people were saying. That was not what the
Speaker 1: reaction was. That took a while to get there, right,
Speaker 1: And so there's a difference between like staged in fake
Speaker 1: there's a difference between a false flag, and people have
Speaker 1: to remember that, Like, it doesn't matter how well you
Speaker 1: plan things.
Speaker 2: Stuff happens right, Like real things happened, real consequences happened.
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example considering we want to compare
Speaker 1: this to the WWE. A very famous moment in WWE
Speaker 1: history is when the Undertaker threw Man Kinkaid off the
Speaker 1: top of the cell.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: That was staged, sure, but it wasn't planned. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, the Undertaker said he wouldn't do it,
Speaker 1: and the only reason he did do it is he
Speaker 1: got tired of Mick fully asking him to do it,
Speaker 1: and nobody knew what was going to happen, and the
Speaker 1: people backstage were pissed off about it, but it all happened,
Speaker 1: and now it's this iconic moment it's really easy to
Speaker 1: look at that in hindsight and be like, Okay, clearly
Speaker 1: it was staged, But I was watching it live and
Speaker 1: thought I just watched mankind die.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: There's a difference between like what we gather of something
Speaker 1: after the fact, especially years later, right, because a lot
Speaker 1: of people who were in conspiracy theories found it got
Speaker 1: into it, like two thousand and eight, twenty twelve, right,
Speaker 1: something like that, and that's like what seven and seven
Speaker 1: and more years after that actual event happened, right, So
Speaker 1: now we forget that too when things are going on
Speaker 1: and people want to be able to hit this hot
Speaker 1: take button like they've got it all figured out because
Speaker 1: it just happened. You have no idea what just happened.
Speaker 1: You have no idea why it happens yet. And that's
Speaker 1: the other part of this that I want to bring
Speaker 1: up before I forget, is people never look at the
Speaker 1: why it's happening.
Speaker 2: And that's been my question too. Why do they want
Speaker 2: trumped that? Why have they tempted to kill him two times? Now?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And it's like all the times that we've been lied,
Speaker 2: all the times that we've been cheated, all the times
Speaker 2: that we've been blatantly lied to our face, you know,
Speaker 2: by the media. It's it's happened to such a degree
Speaker 2: that when and this is another level to it, that
Speaker 2: when something real happens, people just automatically don't believe it.
Speaker 2: And that's a part of this, this whole the conspiracy burrito,
Speaker 2: and that the conspiracies are the conspiracy. The whole idea
Speaker 2: of this has been to completely subvert control, manipulate the population,
Speaker 2: and despite overwhelming evidence of the contray, people no longer
Speaker 2: they just don't believe it and they no longer know
Speaker 2: what to believe. And that is the freaking conspiracy, dude.
Speaker 2: That's what it's literally all revolving around. That's that's the
Speaker 2: overarching like what David, what I talked about at the
Speaker 2: top of the pyramid, right, that is the overarching conspiracy
Speaker 2: that literally no one thinks about, that literally no one
Speaker 2: talks about because one, they probably don't want to believe it.
Speaker 2: They think that they know what's going on and that
Speaker 2: there's some kind of arbiter of truth and they know
Speaker 2: things that other people don't know, so then that in
Speaker 2: turn like makes them special. When they're completely overlooking this
Speaker 2: aspect of the entire community. And that's what I've just
Speaker 2: for the past, you know, a little while. Now, That's
Speaker 2: what I've really been trying to tell people. Is that
Speaker 2: exact thing. Now, the why why do they want Trump dead? What?
Speaker 2: What's your what's your take on that? Why do you
Speaker 2: think that they're wanting to kill this man so bad?
Speaker 2: Because this would have been a perfect plan. It would
Speaker 2: have been a perfect plan if it would have been executed.
Speaker 2: And that dude on the sloped roof that the freaking
Speaker 2: Secret Service supposedly wasn't able to post up on because
Speaker 2: it was so sloped, but yet the roof that they
Speaker 2: were already posted up on was even at more of
Speaker 2: a slope than the one that they said that they
Speaker 2: couldn't post up on. If that guy would have actually
Speaker 2: have hit Trump in the head and killed him like that,
Speaker 2: what would have happened? Then? That would have been probably
Speaker 2: the perfect plan, And that's probably why they wanted to
Speaker 2: do it, because it would have ignited all this chaos
Speaker 2: around it. They would have had to find found a
Speaker 2: new Republican nominee. It would have just been a complete chaos,
Speaker 2: I think, and it would have erupted really quickly.
Speaker 1: Probably would have landed in a big cv R. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably what would have happened. And that's why I
Speaker 1: maintain I think that that is the why Like I
Speaker 1: think that that is you know, if they could get
Speaker 1: their way, they won't have to go to war with
Speaker 1: any other country. They can just ignite something within the
Speaker 1: country itself and use that as their reason to bring
Speaker 1: in everything that they want to bring in. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and then when it comes to a lot of the
Speaker 1: you know, picking the sides here, we really still do
Speaker 1: have to be objective about the policy. Sometimes. Like I'll
Speaker 1: give you an example. Both candidates have a policy that
Speaker 1: ends in you losing freedom of your home. So what
Speaker 1: the one side is saying about the access to guns
Speaker 1: to be able to check and make sure that you
Speaker 1: have certain permits, certain licenses, and certain qualities of firearms,
Speaker 1: and the other side is talking about being able to
Speaker 1: deport people. Are the same opening of laws to the government.
Speaker 1: And it's that opening of laws that we shouldn't want
Speaker 1: for any reason. Right, But it depends on which side
Speaker 1: of that you're on. It's gonna sound good to you, right,
Speaker 1: if you are on the side where guns are the problem,
Speaker 1: then that side's gonna sound great, and you're gonna be like, yes,
Speaker 1: please do it. And if you're on the side that
Speaker 1: the newcomers are the problem, then you're gonna be like, yes, please, great,
Speaker 1: do it. But what we're not out noticing is that
Speaker 1: we're opening up the laws to both of those people
Speaker 1: in such a way that they can come into your home,
Speaker 1: they can search it, they can do whatever they want,
Speaker 1: they can detain you without cause. They can do all
Speaker 1: of those things within the Patriot Act because we gave
Speaker 1: them permission. We gave them our consent one way or
Speaker 1: the other.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So that's one thing with their policies that you always
Speaker 1: have to consider is you should operate under the assumption
Speaker 1: that they actually do both want the same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree with that, and I'm definitely smart
Speaker 2: enough to you know, take that into consideration without having
Speaker 2: any kind of biases. And I think that, but that
Speaker 2: exact same scenario is why people think that it's all
Speaker 2: bullshit though, you know what I mean, like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: it's a it's a lose lose situation. None of it matters,
Speaker 2: you know, and that brings on, you know, more nihilism
Speaker 2: from what I can gather, you know, And I think
Speaker 2: like I said in that, I think that Trump everything
Speaker 2: that Trump has said has really been the exact same
Speaker 2: thing that he has said before and that he's done before.
Speaker 2: You know, he wants to shut down the border, we
Speaker 2: had the least amount of illegal immigration during his presidency.
Speaker 2: He wants to place tariffs on other countries, and how
Speaker 2: people can argue whether that's a good thing or a
Speaker 2: bad thing. At least he said it, and at least
Speaker 2: I know what his plan is to do. I'm like
Speaker 2: what Mala Harris said, which was nothing, she had no plan,
Speaker 2: and that he's going to deport these illegal immigrants, which
Speaker 2: again she didn't say what she was going to do
Speaker 2: about illegal immigration. She didn't even acknowledge that it was
Speaker 2: a problem.
Speaker 1: She didn't answer questions at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like I just don't under really what
Speaker 2: she did. She just got up there and like played
Speaker 2: like she just saved face like the entire and I
Speaker 2: was actually really surprised by her performance. I did not
Speaker 2: think that she was going to do that good. I
Speaker 2: thought she was gonna bomb way harder. Because what was
Speaker 2: really interesting was when during the debate, which I said
Speaker 2: this several times before the debate to people and my
Speaker 2: friends and things. I was like, I think Kamala is
Speaker 2: worse than Joe Biden, because at least Joe Biden has
Speaker 2: an excuse his mental capacity. He's not all mentally there.
Speaker 2: He's got an excuse not to be a good president.
Speaker 1: And because Maala doesn't because he can't speak, it's actually
Speaker 1: better than the way that she can. Like I at
Speaker 1: one point in time thought about being a lawyer because
Speaker 1: it seemed like fun, and so I took a lot
Speaker 1: of advanced law classes in high school and I could
Speaker 1: recognize that quality and people around me then that a
Speaker 1: lot of the people who are best at that job
Speaker 1: aren't very smart themselves, but they do have very good memories,
Speaker 1: and they can speak very well, and they don't really
Speaker 1: have a moral position on anything. They don't really have
Speaker 1: any values, and therefore they really can just say what
Speaker 1: needs to be said in order to get there right.
Speaker 1: And so that's what she did, and so I wasn't
Speaker 1: really surprised by her performance. She was a lawyer. She
Speaker 1: did exactly what a lawyer does. If you forget that
Speaker 1: she's speaking to the public and just think that she's
Speaker 1: speaking to a jury. Her mannerisms, her tones of voice,
Speaker 1: that changes in her direction. It's all jury speak, and
Speaker 1: that's all it was.
Speaker 2: And that's why they didn't want an audience there though.
Speaker 2: That's why they only wanted the two moderators of this
Speaker 2: debate to be there because it's a secluded little titan area.
Speaker 2: Like she's in a courtroom, and an audience would have
Speaker 2: been there, she would have frozen up. She's frozen up
Speaker 2: so many times by people just asking her the simplest
Speaker 2: of questions, like a reporter. But it's because there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people around. She just freezes up. She doesn't
Speaker 2: know what the fuck to say.
Speaker 1: That's the same be as a prosecutor talking to a judge, right,
Speaker 1: the moderators for the judge, and she was the prosecutor.
Speaker 1: It was very familiar to her. It wasn't anything, especially
Speaker 1: when she already knew the questions and she had time
Speaker 1: to rehearse and she knew the moderator as well. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's she was just in court. She was placating
Speaker 1: to a jury emotionally, is what she was doing. She
Speaker 1: was trying to get someone who was guilty off the hook,
Speaker 1: is what she was doing. And she did a good
Speaker 1: job of it because that's her job, right And and
Speaker 1: but on the other side, with the stuff with Trump,
Speaker 1: you know, his actions, what he's been doing is no
Speaker 1: different than what he did last time. It's in his
Speaker 1: selections of people. He selected last time the people everybody
Speaker 1: wanted him to select, right, And.
Speaker 2: That's and he admits that too, He admitted that.
Speaker 1: But he is doing that again this time, right, And
Speaker 1: I do think he.
Speaker 2: Sele better people though I think.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I mean, how much looking into JD. Vans
Speaker 1: and Peter Thield have you done. It's actually a pretty
Speaker 1: pretty worrisome little connection that they've got going on there.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I think that he should drop JD. Vance
Speaker 2: and just make R. Junior as president. That's what he
Speaker 2: should have done.
Speaker 1: And then like you know, bringing in RFK and Tulsi,
Speaker 1: which you know, Tulsi's my president. Loved the lady, so
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk any shit about her or RFK,
Speaker 1: but you know, June I always forget the but you know,
Speaker 1: that's what the people wanted, right, Like that's a political
Speaker 1: move too, and it works for the messaging that he's
Speaker 1: going with, and so that all just makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: But like the people behind the scenes aren't going to
Speaker 1: be any better or worse, and it's the worst that
Speaker 1: people are worried about.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: People have seemed to have this idea that he had
Speaker 1: all these plans to do all these nasty things last
Speaker 1: time and he just wasn't allowed, and this time he's
Speaker 1: going to be allowed. Like it doesn't even really make
Speaker 1: any sense either way. He didn't do any of that
Speaker 1: stuff last time. He's not going to do any of
Speaker 1: this stuff this time. And it was very telling when
Speaker 1: he said what he said recently about Hillary and why
Speaker 1: he didn't arrest her. I don't know if you caught that,
Speaker 1: but he.
Speaker 2: Was like, it would be a travesty of the former
Speaker 2: president's wife was put in prison.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, but he was. He was kind of saying
Speaker 1: that because of what they're doing to him and trying
Speaker 1: to like emotionally placate on that, right, But at the
Speaker 1: same time, that was his way of letting us know, like,
Speaker 1: he's not going to arrest anybody. Guys, he's not going
Speaker 1: in there and he's not really going to take the
Speaker 1: hammer to anything. He's not really going to do any
Speaker 1: of this stuff that one side is afraid he's going
Speaker 1: to do, and the other side wants him to do.
Speaker 1: And I think it was a conversation with you where
Speaker 1: I brought up I'm repeating someone else having said it,
Speaker 1: but someone, Dear God, someone give me the Trump that
Speaker 1: the left and the right both having their delusional minds right,
Speaker 1: because that Trump doesn't actually exist, but we actually do
Speaker 1: need one of those, which is kind of funny.
Speaker 2: It is really funny. But I think the RFK thing,
Speaker 2: I think was really a curveball that was thrown in
Speaker 2: their direction because I I listened to the because there
Speaker 2: was audio that was leaked of RFK and Trump talking
Speaker 2: after he the first time that he was attempted to
Speaker 2: be assassinated in Pennsylvania, and there was like a six
Speaker 2: minute audio call that was leaked on Twitter act and
Speaker 2: it Trump called him immediately after the attempted assassination and uh,
Speaker 2: and I think that RFK recorded it just in case
Speaker 2: something was said or whatever, but then it ended up
Speaker 2: getting leaked. But I listened to the whole conversation, and
Speaker 2: Trump was basically like, Hey, like we're going to win
Speaker 2: this thing, like come and you know, work for me,
Speaker 2: like put this thing together. And I didn't think that
Speaker 2: that was going to happen, but I think that RFK
Speaker 2: made the right decision and the right choice there because
Speaker 2: they were just wrecking him. They were him, they were
Speaker 2: blocking him on so much stuff. They're all the lawsuits
Speaker 2: has been against him for just running for president.
Speaker 1: Dude. Yeah, wild I just just want to comment on
Speaker 1: the RFK thin because it is important for the context
Speaker 1: that Trump came to him and asked him to come
Speaker 1: on his side. RFK Junior then went to Kamala and
Speaker 1: asked to join her side, and Kamala said no, and
Speaker 1: then RFK came back to this side, right, So that's
Speaker 1: important too.
Speaker 2: She denied him, She wouldn't even sit down with him
Speaker 2: to have any kind of conversation.
Speaker 1: It's also important for people to keep in context there.
Speaker 1: That's why I've been making the joke about I just
Speaker 1: want to be included. Yeah, you know, but yeah, like
Speaker 1: that is important to note, and it's important to note
Speaker 1: that these are all the same people. And I do
Speaker 1: think that we aren't voting for one of two people.
Speaker 1: We're voting for one of two systems. And I do
Speaker 1: think that it's important to keep in mind. And this
Speaker 1: is where a lot of the people who go it's
Speaker 1: all pointless anyways, And I don't pay any attention to it,
Speaker 1: do have a foot in truth? Is that I do
Speaker 1: think that we are going towards the same direction, and
Speaker 1: it's that direction that we need to worry about one side.
Speaker 1: It's going to mean that we have basically just put
Speaker 1: our hands up in the air and said, okay, take
Speaker 1: us there, and the other side will give us the
Speaker 1: wiggle room to continue to tell us, tell them that
Speaker 1: we're not okay with it. And if we want that
Speaker 1: out for it eventually, if we want that breakaway civilization
Speaker 1: to still have a door to walk out that won't
Speaker 1: get shot on their way out of, then we do
Speaker 1: probably want to go to the side that is right
Speaker 1: now speaking to truth. And that's all that matters. That's
Speaker 1: why I say, if a message is true, I don't
Speaker 1: care who says it, and if a message is untrue,
Speaker 1: I don't care who says it. I just want to
Speaker 1: know what's true. And one side is speaking to truth
Speaker 1: and the other side is speaking to lies, flat out lies.
Speaker 1: And that is what your choice is, right, Take places
Speaker 1: off of it, take the names off of it, take
Speaker 1: the colors off of it. One side is speaking to truth,
Speaker 1: the other side is speaking to the lie. Yes, that
Speaker 1: might be a deception, but they're still asking you to choose,
Speaker 1: And so your choice is would you like the truth?
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you're gonna get it, but would you like
Speaker 1: it at least do you give up? On the other
Speaker 1: side is pretty much to what they're said, they're.
Speaker 2: Asking, Yeah, excuse me. I'm I give it to Trump
Speaker 2: though too as well, because I've kind of made it
Speaker 2: a point to like watch all of his uh and
Speaker 2: he did like four interviews on like Big Podcast when
Speaker 2: Kamala had been the Democratic nominee for like a couple
Speaker 2: of months and hadn't done one interview, Like Trump was
Speaker 2: all over the place and he was on THEO Von,
Speaker 2: he was on Sean Ryan, he was on Doctor Phil,
Speaker 2: He's a Lex.
Speaker 1: Friedman's all off script shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah script. There wasn't any you know, play cating to him.
Speaker 2: It was all, you know, he didn't know about the questions.
Speaker 2: It was just you know, off the cuff. And that
Speaker 2: takes a really I have don't honorable is the right
Speaker 2: word for it, but someone with integrity in some and
Speaker 2: that actually wants to stand up for what they're doing
Speaker 2: in order to do that. And one thing that I
Speaker 2: really liked at the end of the Sean Ryan Show.
Speaker 2: That I will definitely commend Trump for is that he
Speaker 2: basically said that, you know, he didn't really know what
Speaker 2: he was doing in his first four years, right, he
Speaker 2: trusted people to tell him who to put in certain
Speaker 2: positions and like do things. And it wasn't until halfway
Speaker 2: through his presidency that he realized how pretty much you didn't.
Speaker 2: I'm not quoting him and just giving you the basis
Speaker 2: of kind of like what he said. He realized how
Speaker 2: corrupt these people were, and then he started getting rid
Speaker 2: of them. If you recall, he started firing a bunch
Speaker 2: of people, got rid of a lot of people, and
Speaker 2: everyone was like, why is he doing this? What is
Speaker 2: he doing? Why are they getting rid of all these people,
Speaker 2: and like high out positions and all that, and like
Speaker 2: that's the reason. And you know, I commend him for
Speaker 2: saying that, because again, that takes honor and credibility to
Speaker 2: basically say that, you know, you didn't make the right
Speaker 2: decisions the first time, and you didn't know, and it
Speaker 2: takes a lot to man up to something like that,
Speaker 2: to admit that you really had no idea what you
Speaker 2: were doing. But then he says, well, this time I
Speaker 2: do know what I'm doing. I do know what's going on.
Speaker 2: I've been a part of this for you know, eight
Speaker 2: years now. I know the ins and outs and the
Speaker 2: things that's going on. So it's going to be way
Speaker 2: better this time around. I was like, good, good on you, Bro,
Speaker 2: good on you.
Speaker 1: It's based in truth, and this is what I've said. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll go back to another WWE comparison. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what they want. They do what the fans vote for.
Speaker 1: So whether it's the good guy that the fans are
Speaker 1: voting for, the bad guy that the fans are voting for,
Speaker 1: they do what the fans vote for ninety nine percent
Speaker 1: of the time, right, and they adjust the show based
Speaker 1: on that. Movies the same thing. They'll put out a
Speaker 1: like a movie and if or no a series or
Speaker 1: like a TV series or something like that. They can
Speaker 1: have a character that's really not supposed to be much
Speaker 1: of anything, but all the fans really like them, so
Speaker 1: they build up that character in further seasons. Right. So
Speaker 1: that's the way that we are voting with something that
Speaker 1: is staged. Correct, politics are very similar. If we do
Speaker 1: show that we're going towards the that side, then we're
Speaker 1: going to start getting the show built for us. Whereas
Speaker 1: if we do decide that the other side, then we're
Speaker 1: going to get the show built for us. Right, which
Speaker 1: flavor of it would you like? Even if we do
Speaker 1: end up in the same place, Even if what he's
Speaker 1: saying doesn't end up being there, it sure sounds a
Speaker 1: lot better than what the other side is saying, right,
Speaker 1: And if you can't at least admit to that, then
Speaker 1: in a way, you know, they do deserve what they've
Speaker 1: vote for. As sad as that is to say, it's
Speaker 1: it hurts me to say that to praise, but we
Speaker 1: kind of do deserve if we ask for it, we
Speaker 1: get it, and it turns out to be bad. That's
Speaker 1: kind of on you, you know, And that's just the
Speaker 1: way that it is.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that kind of expose them? Though in a way
Speaker 2: like the like the the left and the agenda that
Speaker 2: the majority of people, well the majority of the right,
Speaker 2: think that they're going to push the country in in
Speaker 2: this constant decline, this you know, this just sort of
Speaker 2: totalitarian state, Like are they really, like do they have
Speaker 2: the plans in place to actually make that happen without
Speaker 2: completely alarming everybody? Like the can they really do that.
Speaker 2: Almost almost want to kind of see what the fuck
Speaker 2: they're gonna do, you know what I mean. I kind
Speaker 2: of just want to be like, Okay, well, all right,
Speaker 2: all right, you're saying that you're not going to do
Speaker 2: any of this stuff. We got it on record, we
Speaker 2: got it on tape saying that you're not gonna do
Speaker 2: any of this stuff. Let's see if you do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean that is where it's at, right, like,
Speaker 1: and so if that's where you're getting to, then welcome
Speaker 1: to where I've been sitting for a while because I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I hope both teams have fun. I don't
Speaker 1: really I understand where this is going. It's the problem
Speaker 1: reaction solution. So once again, to compare it, one side
Speaker 1: offers a problem, the other side offers a problem. There
Speaker 1: is a mutual solution or a mutual or a very
Speaker 1: similar reaction to either one of those problems. Is what
Speaker 1: I'm going for. So the problems can be different, the
Speaker 1: reaction is going to be similar enough that the solution
Speaker 1: will still work.
Speaker 2: It's just it's like, well, if they're saying all this
Speaker 2: stuff and we think that they're pushing the country in
Speaker 2: this direction, like it has kind of been going in
Speaker 2: the past, you know, four years, Like what's the conclusion
Speaker 2: of that, Like, what is there? What is their overarching plan?
Speaker 2: Like how are they really going to actually pull that
Speaker 2: off without looking like villain because right now it's kind
Speaker 2: of like fifty to fifty within you know, the population,
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, well they're evil, They're not evil, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. They're trying to do this, They're
Speaker 2: not trying to do this. And depending on which side
Speaker 2: of the fence you fall on depends on your your
Speaker 2: outlook and your in your ideology sides.
Speaker 1: What about the other side, is that if you don't
Speaker 1: vote for our side, the other side's going to ruin
Speaker 1: our country. So by the sense, so you both want
Speaker 1: to ruin the country. So maybe that's the plan is
Speaker 1: Maybe it's you know, to bring the country down off
Speaker 1: of its superpower states so that they can finally start
Speaker 1: working towards that global agenda that they've been talking about forever.
Speaker 2: Regardless of which way it goes, yeah, exactly. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I think this is gonna there there would be a
Speaker 2: buffer with Trump and there we will least have more time.
Speaker 1: I like, that's what I mean about, Like It's almost
Speaker 1: like where this part of the movie where it's to
Speaker 1: choose your own adventure, would you like the movie to
Speaker 1: move in this direction or that direction?
Speaker 2: I don't like that Black Mirror movie. Do you remember
Speaker 2: that Black Mirror movie? Basically just like, yeah, you pick
Speaker 2: whatever decisions that the characters make, and then based off
Speaker 2: of that decision is how though the thing.
Speaker 1: Based on a series of books called the Choose your
Speaker 1: Own Adventure series, which is what that that was. They
Speaker 1: were popular when I was a little kid, but that's
Speaker 1: what it is. It's like, if you want to go
Speaker 1: this way, jump to page seventy eight three. If you
Speaker 1: want to go that way, jump to page ninety two, right,
Speaker 1: And that's that's kind of where you guys are at.
Speaker 1: Right now? Do you want to go? Which? How did
Speaker 1: I describe it? I think it was like the transhumanist
Speaker 1: version in the hillbilly version, which is kind of a joke,
Speaker 1: but it's like, what movie do you want to watch
Speaker 1: for the next four years? Well this happens. It's pretty
Speaker 1: much why are the choice is? And yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's that in and of itself, is a valuable choice
Speaker 1: to make, even if the destination is the same. The
Speaker 1: way that you're gonna get there does matter, at least
Speaker 1: it should matter to you, right.
Speaker 2: So, and it's like what if you think all this
Speaker 2: stuff is fake, fake and state? Like, how do you
Speaker 2: think that our society operates? Do you think it just
Speaker 2: operates off of nothing? You think like all these policies
Speaker 2: and like all this stuff like it is nothing and
Speaker 2: it doesn't do anything that doesn't help our society. It
Speaker 2: just makes absolutely no sense to me, Like, how do
Speaker 2: these people think that everything is orally? Like, how do
Speaker 2: they think that we have any kind of civilization? How
Speaker 2: do they think that we're any way close to being
Speaker 2: like civilized if everything is like fake and stage.
Speaker 1: Because so much of that foundation people take for granted, Dude,
Speaker 1: they don't know what goes into maintaining that foundation that
Speaker 1: is like their basic day to day life. As it
Speaker 1: was something completely unrelated, but it had to do with
Speaker 1: the Great Lakes and they were talking about the amount
Speaker 1: of power that actually gets generated by a Niagara falls
Speaker 1: and how many people would be out of power if
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, that just went down, and you know,
Speaker 1: it had nothing to do like them making that statement,
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with you know, any type of
Speaker 1: potential cyber attack or any type of potential infrastructure failure
Speaker 1: or anything like that. They were just making a matter
Speaker 1: of fact statement that you know, approximately five hundred million
Speaker 1: people rely on this particular power plant every day for
Speaker 1: their survival.
Speaker 2: Thanks for alerting all the other countries and our enemies
Speaker 2: to this one power plant.
Speaker 1: Bro, They know that, right, But that's what the average
Speaker 1: person doesn't think about stuff like that, right, And so
Speaker 1: when they think about policies and they think about all
Speaker 1: of those things, they're not thinking about the foundation required
Speaker 1: to run the stuff that is allowing them to voice
Speaker 1: their opinion about it, which.
Speaker 2: Is allowing them to basically exist. It freaking blows my mind.
Speaker 2: And also the thing about the power plants too, Like
Speaker 2: if they could literally probably knock out that Niagara Falls
Speaker 2: power plant, that would probably take a lot of the
Speaker 2: power to the Midwest and a lot of Canada out.
Speaker 2: And then if they hit all the power plants along
Speaker 2: the Ohio River, that pretty much takes out all the
Speaker 2: power to the whole eastern part of the United States.
Speaker 2: Literally all the eastern part of the United States gets
Speaker 2: all their power from the power plants along the Ohio River.
Speaker 2: Like that's literally all they'd have to do is bomb
Speaker 2: like a section of freaking one hundred miles.
Speaker 1: And that's its sewage. And then you know, water is
Speaker 1: one thing, but water delivery, you know, like everyone goes
Speaker 1: and turns on their tap and they expect that if
Speaker 1: they turn on their tap, right, And that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Where do you think that comes from? Bro?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Man, that's a within the Civil War movie, that
Speaker 1: was one thing that kind of came up on a
Speaker 1: couple of different things where while that everything you're watching
Speaker 1: in that movie is going on and it basically looks
Speaker 1: like a world at war, there are people living as
Speaker 1: if that's not going on, because they live on farms
Speaker 1: and they live in places where they do still have power,
Speaker 1: and they do still have all those things, and to them,
Speaker 1: there is no civil war, right, And people don't understand
Speaker 1: that that Even during the First Civil War in America
Speaker 1: that was true, where there was a lot of people
Speaker 1: who just still went to work and still did everything
Speaker 1: that they normally did while they were reading in the
Speaker 1: newspaper about the fact that their own country was at war.
Speaker 1: And we forget that that's what it would look like
Speaker 1: this time probably too, right, Like, you know what a
Speaker 1: lot of you are going to do if a civil
Speaker 1: war breaks out tomorrow, You're going to go to work
Speaker 1: the next day. That's what you're gonna do, right, And
Speaker 1: people don't think about it like that because movies in
Speaker 1: Hollywood and big sexy stories just had to throw that
Speaker 1: in there. You know that that have conditions can think
Speaker 1: that it's going to be this thing that it's not
Speaker 1: going to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an unbelievable part of this whole thing, and
Speaker 2: it has been a programming through movies. I think that
Speaker 2: whenever like a war breaks out, like everything just ceases
Speaker 2: to operate, like things just stop, You just stop doing things,
Speaker 2: Like what in what world do you just stop doing things?
Speaker 2: Like just because you don't want to go to work
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you don't have to go to work.
Speaker 2: Doesn't make any sense. But I think that that's a
Speaker 2: really big thing is the power plants, and the w
Speaker 2: EF has actually been warning about cyber attacks and power
Speaker 2: out did so literally what we're talking about the power plants,
Speaker 2: Like lau Schwab has been up there saying we need
Speaker 2: to prepare. I can't do the German accent, but we
Speaker 2: need to prepare for the rolling blackouts and the ongoing
Speaker 2: cyber attacks, like and civil unrest. Those were literally the
Speaker 2: three things that he hit. Civil unrest, rolling blackouts, uh
Speaker 2: and uh our outages. Right, It's like he said, they're
Speaker 2: telling you what's going to happen, and it's just a
Speaker 2: matter of when when is it going to happen? And
Speaker 2: I think that we talked about it a little bit
Speaker 2: before off camera, was that, you know, this October surprise,
Speaker 2: you know, there's always a good October surprise, and in
Speaker 2: an election year, last election year was October, and the
Speaker 2: October surprise was uh Trump getting COVID, which wasn't turned
Speaker 2: out to be pretty much a nothing burger, but people
Speaker 2: thought that it was a big deal, like he was
Speaker 2: going to die or whatever. But he was like trying, Oh,
Speaker 2: what do you think that this October surprise is going
Speaker 2: to be?
Speaker 1: I am not speaking anything into existence on this episode,
Speaker 1: but it's going to have to be pretty significant because
Speaker 1: I mean they just did a second assassination attempt, you know,
Speaker 1: like that's a big deal, Like that's a historical event.
Speaker 1: People forget that, like that doesn't just happen, Like that's
Speaker 1: not a normal thing. Name another time in your lifetime
Speaker 1: that's happened. It's never happening before in your lifetime, Nabe
Speaker 1: for time in your parents' lifetime that's happened. It's probably
Speaker 1: never happened unless they were alive when JFK got shot.
Speaker 2: So and that was only one attempt. It was one
Speaker 2: attempt to survive, two attempts.
Speaker 1: Bro surprised that was a successful venture, is what that was?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And that's another thing people are forgeting is that, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is it's funny that the words so similar unprecedented, right,
Speaker 1: and that's because it is staged. But unfortunately with staged productions,
Speaker 1: things go wrong and you have to make adjustments. And
Speaker 1: another part is listening to the crowd to know when
Speaker 1: you need to pick up the pace or know when
Speaker 1: you need to slow down. There's a lot of different
Speaker 1: reasons when you're putting off a staged production, you would
Speaker 1: listen to the crowd. We are the crowd here. And
Speaker 1: that's why this actually does matter, because they're giving you
Speaker 1: a very easy, obvious choice and if you are too
Speaker 1: stupid to see it, then that's the way they're going
Speaker 1: to feel about you. Right, And I'm not calling you stupid,
Speaker 1: that's the what they're calling you, and that's why they're
Speaker 1: making it so absurd is because they believe you are.
Speaker 1: And you know something that you brought up earlier, it's
Speaker 1: it's an old story of the boy who cried wolf.
Speaker 1: If you continue to cry a wolf and they're there's
Speaker 1: no wolf, no one's going to believe you when the
Speaker 1: wolf shows up.
Speaker 2: And then the wolf is pounding at the fucking door
Speaker 2: right now exactly.
Speaker 1: And then there's the other one about you know, wolves
Speaker 1: are constantly eating these this family's children. So the band
Speaker 1: builds a fence so the wolves can't get in a
Speaker 1: lot enough time goes by that the bofe forgets about
Speaker 1: the wolves and then thinks that the fence is there
Speaker 1: to keep her in and wants to take down the fence.
Speaker 1: And that's where we're at is we forget that we
Speaker 1: put up the fences for a reason, and we forget that,
Speaker 1: you know, we're not supposed to cry wolf until the
Speaker 1: wolf is actually visible. That's when we say wolf. Other
Speaker 1: than that, we can be like, yeah, there's wolves in
Speaker 1: the woods, right, but we know that there's wolves in
Speaker 1: the woods, so we don't need to occupy our bandwidth
Speaker 1: with there's potentially woods wolves in the woods. When one
Speaker 1: comes up to the fence line. Let's all pay attention
Speaker 1: until then, Let's pay attention to problems that are clear
Speaker 1: in present, which is another part of this whole discussion
Speaker 1: that gets lost on people, especially in the conspiracy movement
Speaker 1: and the psychedelic movement and all of these movements where
Speaker 1: you know, reality is so non existent. Apparently you know,
Speaker 1: if the civil war breaks out tomorrow, you're going to
Speaker 1: work the next day. So reality does exist at least
Speaker 1: is some passage. And when it comes to this particular one,
Speaker 1: you know, based on my entire background, I know exactly
Speaker 1: what they're putting in front of you, because you know,
Speaker 1: I've never paid attention to politics. And then anecdotally, I
Speaker 1: felt the same way about my last election here in
Speaker 1: Canada as I do about yours currently coming up. And
Speaker 1: what I thought was true about mine has been true
Speaker 1: since it happened. And so I'm very confident in saying
Speaker 1: this is the same test for you guys, and if
Speaker 1: you don't choose the right way, everybody who probably would
Speaker 1: be listening to this is really not going to like things,
Speaker 1: whereas a lot of the people who would think this
Speaker 1: this program was insane are probably going to love it.
Speaker 1: So that should tell you something.
Speaker 2: So the October soprit is, what do you think that
Speaker 2: that's going to be?
Speaker 1: I don't know, man war, I mean a successful suicide assassination,
Speaker 1: sorry wrongwood, and a successful one.
Speaker 2: Third one third one is normally the charm. Dude, I
Speaker 2: really hope it's not a third one.
Speaker 1: I thought they were going to do putting them in jail,
Speaker 1: and then when I heard that they moved that until
Speaker 1: past the election, I thought that was interesting to begin with,
Speaker 1: but that also made me think that they were going
Speaker 1: to manage to actually successfully have one of those before
Speaker 1: that instead, And so maybe they just failed their second attempt.
Speaker 1: Maybe they are going to try again. But again, I
Speaker 1: don't want to wish that into existence. I don't want
Speaker 1: anyone to have to die in order for them to
Speaker 1: play their game. But I'm not in control of it.
Speaker 2: I don't mean, how many times can the attempt to
Speaker 2: assassinate him and people keep being in denial about it? Like, dude,
Speaker 2: I really believe.
Speaker 3: That if if people should have been really pissed off,
Speaker 3: there should have been a lot more problems.
Speaker 2: But instead they kind of like brushed it off and
Speaker 2: brushed it under the rug. They didn't do a press
Speaker 2: conference about it. There was. This is the the first
Speaker 2: time a big event has ever happened where there's a
Speaker 2: shooter involved that there's not a press conference immediately after it.
Speaker 2: We have absolutely no information about the shooter the first guy.
Speaker 2: We know a little bit more about the the second
Speaker 2: guy now, but still there was no press conference after
Speaker 2: that one either, Like, what are they doing? It makes
Speaker 2: absolutely no sense. Literally, after any event like that. You
Speaker 2: can look back at all the mass bank bangs that
Speaker 2: have happened throughout history in the past ten years, for
Speaker 2: the past fifteen years, since they randomly started happening somehow magically,
Speaker 2: there's always a press conference afterwards. The FBI is there
Speaker 2: doing a press conference asking questions why did they not
Speaker 2: do it for this? It makes zero orange.
Speaker 1: Man, they want them gone, right, So it's that simple.
Speaker 1: And really it's just like how much hate do you
Speaker 1: have enough to deny the truth, enough to deny reason,
Speaker 1: enough to deny sanity? Okay, well then you'll get what
Speaker 1: you hate for, you know, And that's it. It's unfortunate,
Speaker 1: but it's it is kind of true. And that's the
Speaker 1: part that that's the only part that's really ugly to me,
Speaker 1: is just seeing the amount of hate that people are
Speaker 1: capable of for each otherther you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It's not like it's not even directed at an institution.
Speaker 1: It's directed at human beings and that makes no sense
Speaker 1: to me. But anyways, I have one question before to
Speaker 1: leave the audience with, before we do wrap this up,
Speaker 1: is what did Epert Palpatine really do wrong? Other than
Speaker 1: convince good people to do bad things. I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: That's right. I mean, that's kind of the Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: kind of really a good argument.
Speaker 1: That's what we see him do wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, really, what did what did the archetypical
Speaker 2: stereotype of Lucifer or the devil do wrong? Either? Besides,
Speaker 2: you've supposedly knowledged people Lucifer, Satan Douvelding has never killed anybody.
Speaker 2: There's not one instance that you can point to into
Speaker 2: that shows that Lucifer, Satan or I'm just throwing all
Speaker 2: the names out there because you know whatever, the archetypical
Speaker 2: bad person never killed anybody, like the biggest bad of
Speaker 2: them all, Satan has never been on record killing anybody.
Speaker 2: But how many people of God? Has God killed? Whole
Speaker 2: freaking cities? Bro Whole cities of people.
Speaker 1: Kind of a very similar blind everybody is this way
Speaker 1: type of mentality, where the other one was kind of
Speaker 1: like no, I think there's a lot of variability in people,
Speaker 1: and we should kind of take a look at that nuance.
Speaker 1: But hey, let's not go any further with that. Tell
Speaker 1: people where they can find you, and then we'll say
Speaker 1: goodbye to all the lovely people at home.
Speaker 2: Well, really quickly, I just want to mention this real
Speaker 2: quick because I think it's important. The Russian Ukrainian War
Speaker 2: has made a post about this on Facebook, and I
Speaker 2: kind of just want to fit it in here really
Speaker 2: quickly before we go, because I just want to mention it.
Speaker 2: What is the deal with that war? Why has that
Speaker 2: war not been over?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What is Putin doing? If Putin is this gigantic monster
Speaker 2: and this dictator in this person that everyone is seeing
Speaker 2: that he is and that he's gonna not stop after
Speaker 2: he takes over Ukraine, it seems like Ukraine has stopped
Speaker 2: him in his tracks. A country that is no bigger
Speaker 2: than the state of Texas in the United States has
Speaker 2: stopped Putin dead in his tracks. For two years this
Speaker 2: war has been going on, well yeah, allegedly, but it's
Speaker 2: it's wild, dude, Like I don't understand it. Like Putin
Speaker 2: should have win In. He has one of the greatest
Speaker 2: Russia has, one of the greatest militaries in the world
Speaker 2: ran right through him. And that doesn't mean killing all
Speaker 2: of them. That doesn't mean leveling them or dropping a
Speaker 2: nuke or dropping a bomb and killing all of them.
Speaker 2: There's other ways to take over a country besides killing everyone, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, you saw what Germany did just two years
Speaker 2: into the war. Into World War two, Germany had pretty
Speaker 2: much conquered all of Europe and can conquer a freaking country.
Speaker 2: It's no bigger than the size of Texas in two years.
Speaker 2: Shit's weak, bro.
Speaker 1: No matter what a man says or what has been
Speaker 1: said about a man, what he does in the end
Speaker 1: is what he intended to do all along, and proof
Speaker 1: is in the result he has not he would have
Speaker 1: if that was his intention. It's been two years and
Speaker 1: nothing even similar to that has happened. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, he's done exactly what he always said he
Speaker 1: was going to do if something happened, and that's it.
Speaker 1: But once again, that's another Orange man. So we can't
Speaker 1: we can't talk about facts. We can't use reason and
Speaker 1: logic because that one hurts my feelings.
Speaker 2: We can't. We can't be hurting your feeling, Gene. That's
Speaker 2: a that's a no, no, you know, no hurt machines feeling.
Speaker 1: You know that they really mean about Taylor Swift and
Speaker 1: I just can't get over it.
Speaker 2: M Taylor Swift and all of her songs about picking
Speaker 2: the wrong guy, but she wants to vote for Kamali Harrish.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean, that's the stage. It's like so
Speaker 1: symbolically the question being how stupid are you? Anyways? All Right?
Speaker 2: I just feel like the whole thing should have been
Speaker 2: over within like two weeks. I mean Germany, Like, like
Speaker 2: I could pull up a map right now. I actually
Speaker 2: posted it on the comment session of the Facebook post.
Speaker 2: We could pull up a map of what was going
Speaker 2: on during World War Two, and all of the territories
Speaker 2: and all of the country, the countries that Germany had
Speaker 2: overtaken in just two years in the beginning of the
Speaker 2: war is pretty much all of Europe and Ukraine is
Speaker 2: just a little freaking blimp at the bottom of this
Speaker 2: map that is all in red of all the German territories.
Speaker 2: It's just wild like telling me that Germany could have
Speaker 2: did all of this and took over Europe in two years.
Speaker 2: But Bootin with the one of the greatest militaries in
Speaker 2: the world, can't take over a country that is smaller
Speaker 2: than the state of Texas. It lacks all logic and
Speaker 2: all critical thinking and thought process. But thanks for having
Speaker 2: me on, Shane, really appreciate it. You can find me
Speaker 2: on a raised by Giants, on YouTube and Indian all
Speaker 2: podcasts platforms, things Avenue. I really appreciate it. It's always
Speaker 2: wonderful Chinman.
Speaker 1: Likewise, everybody know