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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I ran across your channel. I really liked

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the stories that you tell. I like that

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<v Speaker 1>they're not too long and tedious. It keeps them interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a short story for you about a time

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<v Speaker 1>when I had a run in with a bigfoot. I

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<v Speaker 1>was out in the woods with a young lady in

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<v Speaker 1>my full size seventy nine Ford Broncho. Oh Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if you still have that Broncho, Brian, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a seventy eight Bronco. It was white, it was an

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<v Speaker 1>OJ Bronco, and I loved that car, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why I sold it, but anyway, I'm glad we

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<v Speaker 1>were in that vehicle, or we might have not gotten

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<v Speaker 1>out of there. We were down in the woods doing

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<v Speaker 1>what couples do in the woods at night, when we

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<v Speaker 1>heard a noise from something that was making sure we

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was there. We never heard any hoops or hollers,

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<v Speaker 1>nor any tree knocks. It was just the god offless

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<v Speaker 1>breaking of limbs and trees I've ever heard in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>It was loud and angry. It didn't just want us

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<v Speaker 1>to know what was there, It wanted us to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to a bigfoot researcher who said it was

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<v Speaker 1>mad because at one point I got out and urinated

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<v Speaker 1>thereby marking its territory as mine. Well, maybe that's so.

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<v Speaker 1>The researcher also said that this bigfoot was probably a loner,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why we never heard any grunts or tree knocks.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't have any friends around to communicate with whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it was telling us, we stopped doing what we were doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and we decided to get the heck out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>My lady friend was so scared she curled herself up

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<v Speaker 1>in a ball in the front seat and hugged her

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<v Speaker 1>legs with her head down. I was scared, but I

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<v Speaker 1>had to keep control and drive us out. I was

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<v Speaker 1>checking the mirror and what little I could see in

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<v Speaker 1>the brake lights for anything coming up behind us. We

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<v Speaker 1>worked our way around a corner, holding our breasts, expecting

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<v Speaker 1>at any time to see something jump out at us

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<v Speaker 1>or show itself. Then we hit a straight away and

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<v Speaker 1>I kicked it from third into fourth. But up ahead

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<v Speaker 1>was a tree lying across the road. It wasn't so

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<v Speaker 1>big that we couldn't get over it in my Bronco,

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<v Speaker 1>but a smaller or less powerful vehicle probably wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>made it. I made the split second decision not to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew there was no way I was getting out

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<v Speaker 1>of that truck and moving that tree by hand. We

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<v Speaker 1>were moving so fast when we hit it, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like much more than a bump in the road.

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<v Speaker 1>We were so scared we didn't feel it anyway. We

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<v Speaker 1>had it straight from my buddy's house, who lives down

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<v Speaker 1>in that area. He and I had done a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of exploring on our four wheelers over those woods. The

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<v Speaker 1>bigfoot researcher told me that the bigfoot probably knew my

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<v Speaker 1>buddy because it followed us to his house that night.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, he had several strange occurrences happen. One night,

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<v Speaker 1>he heard all kinds of bumps and growls outside, like

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<v Speaker 1>someone was throwing things at the house. One thing I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand. It was pretty clear that it wanted us

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of there, But why did it block

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<v Speaker 1>the road with a tree. Was it trying to push

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<v Speaker 1>us further in the woods, or was it trying to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt us? Or was it trying to catch us on

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<v Speaker 1>the tree. If so, what did it want? This all

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<v Speaker 1>happened off of Highway two twenty one in Forest City,

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. If anyone has an answer for what it

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to do, I'd sure like to know. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a story I heard a few years ago. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be a crime not to let your audience hear this.

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<v Speaker 1>The story takes place in the nineteen eighties in the

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<v Speaker 1>state of Utah and is about two young boys who

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<v Speaker 1>have the shock of their lives when they came face

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<v Speaker 1>to face was something that most people claim doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>A mining company needed two workers to clean out a

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<v Speaker 1>mine located on a mountain side in a remote area

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<v Speaker 1>in Utah. As luck would have it, they found two

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<v Speaker 1>college students from Washington State who were interested in the job.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the boys was nineteen and the other was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one. Strangely enough, they were both bigfoot enthusiasts and

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<v Speaker 1>were no strangers to being alone in the woods. They

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<v Speaker 1>arrived at the mine and set up their campsite. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a very organized campsite, and these lads were to

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<v Speaker 1>remove debris from this mine with buckets. A few days passed,

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<v Speaker 1>and then early one morning, one of the mine owners

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<v Speaker 1>was awoken to the ring of his phone. It was

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<v Speaker 1>his partner. The boys had called him from a phone

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<v Speaker 1>booth in town. Parently they had wrecked their car coming

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<v Speaker 1>down the mountain side. Baffled by the news, the two

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<v Speaker 1>men met and then drove to the town through pouring rain.

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<v Speaker 1>While driving, the man who took the call said the

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<v Speaker 1>boys claimed to have been chased off the mountain by

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<v Speaker 1>a Sasquatch. They both laughed it off, thinking these kids

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted out of the job and needed help after

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<v Speaker 1>wrecking their car. Had they not wrecked, the owners probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have never heard from them again. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>they thought, but they would soon discover the truth. Finally

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<v Speaker 1>making it to town with the rain increasing throughout the drive,

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<v Speaker 1>they found the phone booth where the boys asked them

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<v Speaker 1>to meet. They expected to find the boys in a

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<v Speaker 1>nearby cafe or place of business, and they never actually

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the phone booth until one of the young

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<v Speaker 1>men yelled for them. They looked over and inside the

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<v Speaker 1>booth were two college aged men huddled together, wearing nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but their boxer shorts. They ushered the kids into the truck,

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<v Speaker 1>where it was warm, and then drove a block to

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<v Speaker 1>the first cafe they saw. Once inside, the waitress brought

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<v Speaker 1>them towels and blankets, and soon they were dry and

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<v Speaker 1>warming up it with some food finally in their stomachs.

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<v Speaker 1>The two employees told this story. The young men had

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<v Speaker 1>taken the job so that they could be in an

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<v Speaker 1>area with reported bigfoot activity. Their plan was to do

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<v Speaker 1>their work and spend their off time searching for the creature.

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<v Speaker 1>While doing research in Washington State, they had captured vocalizations

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<v Speaker 1>bigfoot screams and howls, and had brought the recordings along

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<v Speaker 1>with them to play on a loud speaker. After finishing

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<v Speaker 1>their work the evening before, they set up the loud

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<v Speaker 1>speaker and began playing the sounds, and something roared at

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<v Speaker 1>them from a distance away. They turned the speaker off,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they discussed it, and they ultimately agreed that

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<v Speaker 1>the roar they heard was a bear, so they restarted

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<v Speaker 1>blasting the sounds into the woods. Well, whatever had roared

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<v Speaker 1>before began roaring again, and this time it was closer,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a continuous series of sounds. Now they

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<v Speaker 1>knew they had attracted a sidequatch and there was no doubt,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were excited. They admitted that they should have

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<v Speaker 1>left the area at that point, but in their minds,

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<v Speaker 1>this was the coolest thing to happen since their bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>investigations had begun, so they cranked up the volume and

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<v Speaker 1>let the recording play. The roarers got louder and they

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<v Speaker 1>could now hear this thing coming toward them. Branches were

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<v Speaker 1>cracking as it moved closer, and they could actually hear

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<v Speaker 1>the footfalls of the creature. Now, not wanting to overdo it,

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<v Speaker 1>they cut the feed to the speaker and moved into

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<v Speaker 1>their tent, where they apparently thought it was safe, and

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<v Speaker 1>then began making vocalizations with their own voices. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we can all agree that these young men had a

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<v Speaker 1>screw loose. Maybe they were just over confident that they

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<v Speaker 1>were safe. That was about to change, though. The tent

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<v Speaker 1>was quickly jerked upward, lifting both men into the air,

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<v Speaker 1>until the floor of the tent ripped out, sending them

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<v Speaker 1>a few feet to the ground. In an instant they

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<v Speaker 1>were sandwiched between two enormous, smelly creatures. The only conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>would be obvious that the creatures had no interest in

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<v Speaker 1>harming these young men, because they turned their attention to

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<v Speaker 1>the camp and began tearing everything to pieces. With the

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<v Speaker 1>raging creature's attention elsewhere, the young men saw their chance

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<v Speaker 1>to escape and only their underwear. They sprinted to the

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<v Speaker 1>car and took off down the mountain. At some point

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<v Speaker 1>in their escape they had a tree which made the

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<v Speaker 1>car useless, and from there they walked into town through

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<v Speaker 1>the freezing rain. But still their employers weren't sure if

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<v Speaker 1>they believed the story. One suggested they get the young

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<v Speaker 1>men into some clothes and then go to their campsite

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<v Speaker 1>to salvage what they could. Both of the students shook

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<v Speaker 1>their heads and emphatically stated that they were never going

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<v Speaker 1>on that mountain again, and as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>they were clear about getting home as soon as they could,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they had to walk back to Washington State

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<v Speaker 1>in the freezing rain wearing only their boxers. The owner

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<v Speaker 1>of the cafe had joined the group. He told all

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<v Speaker 1>the men that he would get the young men outfitted

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<v Speaker 1>in new clothes and help them find a way home.

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<v Speaker 1>The two owners of the mine, however, were curious about

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<v Speaker 1>the story, and they wanted to visit the camp. If

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<v Speaker 1>this story were true, there would be evidence to back

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<v Speaker 1>the story up. Up so up the mountain they drove

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<v Speaker 1>in the rain. By the time they reached the campsite,

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<v Speaker 1>the rain had stopped and on the way up the

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<v Speaker 1>old mining road, they stopped to inspect the car the

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<v Speaker 1>men had abandoned. It looked like they had hit every

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<v Speaker 1>tree and rock on their way down. The damage they

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<v Speaker 1>saw was not from the impact where the car now sat.

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<v Speaker 1>They hit everything. It was in a place from which

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<v Speaker 1>it could be easily towed. Whether the car was worth

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<v Speaker 1>salvaging would be up to the body shop and the

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<v Speaker 1>insurance adjuster, assuming these kids had insurance. Now at the campsite,

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<v Speaker 1>the owners stood at a distance taking in the destruction.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked nothing like a campsite. It was more like

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<v Speaker 1>a corner of a landfill. Debris was scattered about, and

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<v Speaker 1>nothing looked like its previous form. A cast iron stove

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<v Speaker 1>that was once inside the tent was now broken into pieces,

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<v Speaker 1>and pieces of cass littered the area. Coolers had been crushed,

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<v Speaker 1>and tents and sleeping bags shredded. Even suitcases were ripped open,

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<v Speaker 1>and the boy's clothes didn't survive. Every garment was torn apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything that once made up the organized campsite was now destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the soda cans were crushed flat, every single can.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the owners bent over and picked up a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of a toothbrush. Neither man had spoken since they arrived,

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<v Speaker 1>and finally one broke the silence. You believe this sosquat story, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't until I saw this. I think we need

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<v Speaker 1>to sell this claim and cut our losses, said the other, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you read my mind. Let's get off this mountain. The

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<v Speaker 1>mine owners left the mountain and then made certain the

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<v Speaker 1>college students had a way back to Washington, and after

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<v Speaker 1>thinking the cafe owner, they left and they never returned

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<v Speaker 1>to their claim. My story started many years ago in

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<v Speaker 1>northern Minnesota, being a hardened Minnesotan Minnesotan Minnesotan, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to say that Minnesotan is one of my

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<v Speaker 1>attributes that I wear proudly. Growing up in the harsh

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<v Speaker 1>north woods. I often think of the encounters I experienced

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<v Speaker 1>as a young man growing up. However, not until the

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<v Speaker 1>last five or so years did I realize what I encountered.

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<v Speaker 1>I met my wife thirty five years ago, and I

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<v Speaker 1>married her. In all those years I let her know

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<v Speaker 1>of my strange yet unverified happenings in the woods. She

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<v Speaker 1>would say, just lay off the bourbon. It wasn't uncommon

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<v Speaker 1>for me to take my leave of her and venture

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<v Speaker 1>out into the deep woods for quite some time. Camping

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<v Speaker 1>is my passion, and I did it often. Moving to

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<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin in nineteen ninety, we started our family, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been blessed with a son and a daughter and are

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<v Speaker 1>very close to me and my wife. Both my kids

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<v Speaker 1>as it was meant to be. After careful consideration, I've

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<v Speaker 1>decided to share my most recent experience that makes me

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<v Speaker 1>that my thoughts on bigfoot are met with hardcore evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that they truly are real. My son and I are

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<v Speaker 1>all other activities when hunting season is open. Last spring

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<v Speaker 1>twenty and nineteen, my son and I were camping on

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<v Speaker 1>private land in western Wisconsin. The landowner lets us do

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<v Speaker 1>be done on the property. Prior to my last encounter,

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<v Speaker 1>may I say that not only has my son and

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter and yes, my wife have not only seen

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<v Speaker 1>our hairy creature, but have come to enjoy the gifting

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<v Speaker 1>process that we have started with them hunting this property.

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<v Speaker 1>We have experienced and become somewhat comfortable with the sightings

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<v Speaker 1>and gifting of our hairy friends. I am blessed that

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter, wife, and son have gotten to experience what

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<v Speaker 1>I have. At first, we were terrified of what we

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<v Speaker 1>they mean us no harm as long as we respect

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<v Speaker 1>their space. It was May of last year and my

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<v Speaker 1>We set up camp and what we call the bottoms.

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<v Speaker 1>It's three hundred acres of woods and it's our playground

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<v Speaker 1>and wild game is plentiful. The landowner dropped by with

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<v Speaker 1>his wife and we drank and relaxed by a fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Deep into the evening. We already had three days of

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<v Speaker 1>It was Friday afternoon and we saw turkeys, but none

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<v Speaker 1>were close enough to harvest. We headed back to camp

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<v Speaker 1>and the landowners showed up and brought bourbon and chicken

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<v Speaker 1>quarters for the open fire. Strumming my guitar and feasting

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<v Speaker 1>on campfire chicken and having a relaxing evening. They left

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<v Speaker 1>around ten thirty and drove back to Madison. My son

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<v Speaker 1>and I stayed up drinking and singing to my guitar.

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<v Speaker 1>When I noticed something strange in the darkness. Just out

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<v Speaker 1>of the light of the fire, one could make out

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<v Speaker 1>an outline of two beings in the distance. I reached

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<v Speaker 1>over and tapped my son, and I pointed in the

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<v Speaker 1>direction of what I was seeing. Holy shed, Dad, there

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<v Speaker 1>they are, yep, I said, are you scared now? He said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're like playing, if that's possible, as he laughed. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Around midnight, we decided that it was time for bed,

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<v Speaker 1>so we retired to the tent. Getting up to go

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<v Speaker 1>hunting at four point thirty would come pretty quick. Before

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<v Speaker 1>going to bed, I went to potty behind the tent

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<v Speaker 1>and the creatures were gone, so I climbed in by

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<v Speaker 1>my sleeping bag and it was a wonderful end to

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<v Speaker 1>the day. One of the many nights my son and

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<v Speaker 1>I have camped in these woods, it became obvious that

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<v Speaker 1>we had company. It was only after many nights that

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<v Speaker 1>we realized that our forest friends would always let us

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<v Speaker 1>know that they were there. It was spooky and comforting

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. And let me say that after

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<v Speaker 1>getting used to it, we slept pretty well. Prior to retiring.

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<v Speaker 1>We stoked the fire with wood, so we had a

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<v Speaker 1>fire in the morning, and I naturally wake up early,

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<v Speaker 1>and even though we stayed up late, I would be

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<v Speaker 1>up at my normal time of three thirty or so

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<v Speaker 1>making coffee and breakfast. But I didn't that morning. I

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<v Speaker 1>was perhaps really tired, as I slept until five am.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't me that woke up. Something outside the

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<v Speaker 1>tent pushed me out of my cot The push was

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<v Speaker 1>powerful and firm, and I sprang awake and I reached

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<v Speaker 1>over to my son and he was there, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>get up, man, it's late. And I ran out to

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<v Speaker 1>see if I could see who or what had pushed

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<v Speaker 1>me out of my bed. My son said, Dad, what's

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<v Speaker 1>got you all wound up? And I told him what

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<v Speaker 1>had just happened. Well, he laughed and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they probably know what our schedule is and they woke

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<v Speaker 1>you up. I took comfort in that, as it made sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I went on to make coffee, and being late as

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<v Speaker 1>turkeys were already out of their roost, we ate breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>and decided to say screw it and just hang out

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<v Speaker 1>at camp. But what happened next is something that I

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<v Speaker 1>will always remember. We were planning on camping another two days,

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<v Speaker 1>so we were running low on eggs and bacon, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we jumped in my truck and we drove the

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<v Speaker 1>ten miles into town to get what we needed. We

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<v Speaker 1>got back to camp around nine thirty am, and what

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<v Speaker 1>we saw was simply amazing. There was a huge tom

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<v Speaker 1>laying next to the table where the camp stove was,

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<v Speaker 1>and its neck was broken. Well, I'll be down. He

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<v Speaker 1>gifted us a turkey. I said, how freaking cool is that.

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<v Speaker 1>Our excitement was overwhelming, and we shouted thank you out

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<v Speaker 1>into the woods, and even though it was now ten am,

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<v Speaker 1>we both took a shot a while turkey still in disbelief,

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<v Speaker 1>and decided to gift them with some eggs and bacon.

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<v Speaker 1>I cooked up a batch and put it on a

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<v Speaker 1>paper plate and walked over to our gifting site and

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<v Speaker 1>I left it there. Shortly thereafter, we heard a whoop

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<v Speaker 1>and it was loud and close, and I smiled and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, it's safe to say they got our gift.

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<v Speaker 1>And I walked over to the gifting site about three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards away and the plate was gone and in

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<v Speaker 1>its place was a shiny, speckled rock. It's not the

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<v Speaker 1>first time that we've been gifted rocks, and for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>they seem to gift back with rocks. Well that's our story. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I know some of you will find it unbelievable, but

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<v Speaker 1>everything I've said is true. I know for sure if

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<v Speaker 1>people would put down their phones and reconnect with nature,

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<v Speaker 1>one never knows what may happen. It's a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago you did a phone interview with a Colorado

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<v Speaker 1>big game outfitter that has gotten me curious about this

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<v Speaker 1>exact area, and I'll explain why. He mentioned he was

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<v Speaker 1>in southwest Colorado for the past several years. Myself and

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<v Speaker 1>several friends from here and around the country meet up

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<v Speaker 1>in elk hunt in the San Juan Mountains in southwest Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>We are in the area near the town of Dolores,

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<v Speaker 1>a little more specifically, out in the mountains above Groundhog Reservoir.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in twenty eighteen, I was hunting on top of

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<v Speaker 1>a mountain called Black Mesa. The snow was kneed mid

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<v Speaker 1>thigh deep on me and I'm six foot tall, and

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<v Speaker 1>as I came up over a small ridge into a

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<v Speaker 1>larger clearing. My path took me through what I came

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<v Speaker 1>to see as a track of large prints. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really think much of it, as they were

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a day or two old and the weather and

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<v Speaker 1>fresh snowfall had made some effect on them. The more

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at them, the more intrigued I became. While

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<v Speaker 1>the weather may have eroded them, they were still almost

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<v Speaker 1>double the size of my size twelve boot. There were

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<v Speaker 1>no drag marks between the steps. They were postholed across

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<v Speaker 1>the clearing with what was clearly a bipedal left right gate.

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<v Speaker 1>What made me think more about it was the stride,

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<v Speaker 1>which was four to five feet between each step. There

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<v Speaker 1>is no way somebody in my size could replicate that,

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<v Speaker 1>And even more amazing was the fact that the trackway

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<v Speaker 1>never broke its stride. It came up out of the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>across the clearing and back down into the woods, with

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<v Speaker 1>a total distance of one hundred yards, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>what I could see. I took a few photos, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm embarrassed to say are of mediocre quality at best.

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<v Speaker 1>Being more focused on looking for ELK, I took a

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<v Speaker 1>the tracks to the other guys without much response. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>in our group saw anything out of the ordinary for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the trip. In twenty nineteen, in the

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<v Speaker 1>same area, myself and another guy had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>unexplained events on separate nights. This time we were camped

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<v Speaker 1>near the side of Black Mesa. On our second night

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<v Speaker 1>in camp, I was awakened by a rhythmic knocking of

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<v Speaker 1>wood on wood. Two knocks, Wait ten seconds, and then

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<v Speaker 1>two more. Wait a few more seconds, and then two more.

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<v Speaker 1>This went on for a couple of minutes, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to be fairly close. At one point after the

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<v Speaker 1>two knocks, there was an additional knock that sounded much

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<v Speaker 1>farther away, and at that point the double knock started

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<v Speaker 1>to move away, still knocking at ten second intervals until

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't hear them any longer. I was the only

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<v Speaker 1>person that heard those knocks that night, and again I

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<v Speaker 1>failed to investigate it, being that it was in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the night and it was twenty five degrees

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<v Speaker 1>out side. I rolled over and I went back to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned it to the group the next morning, but

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<v Speaker 1>nobody heard anything. The third night, another member of our

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<v Speaker 1>group heard the same knocks, but he too didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>up to explore. The area behind our camp was heavy

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<v Speaker 1>dark timber heading downhill toward a draw with a creek

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom. I put out a couple of game

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<v Speaker 1>cameras but didn't capture anything. Those were the only two

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<v Speaker 1>occurrences we had last year. These two incidents made me

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<v Speaker 1>curious if the outfitter you interviewed was in that same area.

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<v Speaker 1>That entire area is surrounded by cattle ranches and guided huntland.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been interested in the subject of bigfoot for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, although a lot of things I've seen on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet I've been fairly skeptical of. These two events

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<v Speaker 1>have peaked my interest into digging a little deeper.
