1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice, 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:08,599 mix in some vodka. Call it a podcast from the 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,320 mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:17,800 Victor Chrysler Dots. Gee Rahm, It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. 5 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pot on. 6 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,280 Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the 7 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:42,600 word about the pirate ship. I hope everybody had a 8 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,560 great Thanksgiving weekend. I don't know if anybody else is 9 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,759 feeling I'm like feeling overwhelmed on stuff. You know, we're 10 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,719 in this new studio and I need to kind of 11 00:00:53,759 --> 00:00:56,159 get some things settled in. Like, these guys are so 12 00:00:56,399 --> 00:01:01,119 fantastic at the mac of All Trades building. If you 13 00:01:01,159 --> 00:01:02,960 need anything done, you got to go to Macaball Trades. 14 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,480 They're just fantastic. Fund them online and macaball Trades dot net. 15 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,840 But they came in and repainted the wall, so everything's 16 00:01:10,879 --> 00:01:14,560 gathered around our table. You really can't see it. And 17 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:21,000 then I'm debating what stays what goes, and I mean school, 18 00:01:21,079 --> 00:01:24,159 and I got it's like right now all the projects 19 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,879 are due, all the projects that everybody's talked about and 20 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,120 felt so far off, and there's I mean, I don't 21 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:31,519 know how I'm gonna get all this done. I don't 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,120 even Sometimes you ever wonder where you go? What did 23 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:36,560 I do? And I feel like I somehow bit off 24 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:39,120 more than I can chew, which is typical for me. 25 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,840 And then of course I self sabotage myself in other areas. 26 00:01:42,359 --> 00:01:45,799 They usually involve I don't know, alcohol a little bit, 27 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,239 a little bit, but I'm getting better at that. And 28 00:01:48,879 --> 00:01:52,040 I got to tell you, like, there's so many things 29 00:01:52,079 --> 00:01:54,040 that I want to do, especially now that we're in 30 00:01:54,079 --> 00:01:57,599 this new space and school stuff, and I feel like 31 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,920 I'm starting to figure it out now if I can, 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,000 I mean all of it. You know what it means. 33 00:02:02,319 --> 00:02:07,599 It means I can't really go have fun anymore. But 34 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:10,439 I mean, this is just to give you an example 35 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:12,840 of how overwhelmed. Like. I'm in the shower today and 36 00:02:12,879 --> 00:02:15,639 I'm talking to myself, not like a schizophrenic person who 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,599 actually sees someone there and is having a conversation. I'm 38 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,280 just like thinking out loud. And I washed my hair 39 00:02:23,319 --> 00:02:25,360 twice because I couldn't remember, and on the second time, 40 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:28,240 oh god, I already did this. And then I leave 41 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,520 the house and I get in the car and go. 42 00:02:29,759 --> 00:02:31,599 I left my phone inside and then I can't find it, 43 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:32,919 and I got my kid called. I mean, you know 44 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,759 what I'm saying, It's like all these little things. And 45 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,240 I thought Adderall would correct that stuff. But maybe I 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,919 need a higher dose. I don't really know. But speaking 47 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,240 of fun over the long holiday weekend, of course, there 48 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:52,400 is the legendary Macy's Day Parade, and today's guest once 49 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,400 got college credit for waking up at three am to 50 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,199 listen to me talking to a microphone. And some how 51 00:03:01,479 --> 00:03:05,199 after that trauma, she still wanted to work in entertainment 52 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,560 and she still actually talks to me. Hello, Alex, Hi, 53 00:03:11,599 --> 00:03:17,319 So I'm great. Alex was involved this year in the 54 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,560 production would that be fair to say of the of 55 00:03:20,599 --> 00:03:24,919 the Macy's Day Parade, the legendary Macy's Day Parade, And 56 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:28,800 she let me know that she was doing this and said, hey, 57 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:32,639 if you want, I can get you in up close 58 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,879 to the balloons. So my son and I and along 59 00:03:36,919 --> 00:03:40,039 with my brother and his family went down on Wednesday 60 00:03:40,919 --> 00:03:44,439 and they went to the rock Cats. Everything got delayed, 61 00:03:44,479 --> 00:03:46,080 delayed in the morning, we didn't get out of there 62 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,360 in time. It was all this stuff it might have 63 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,400 been my fault. I think I was doing a project 64 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,680 for school and I ran a little over. So when 65 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,680 we get there, they went to the rock Cats, and 66 00:03:56,879 --> 00:03:59,520 James and I went uptown to the west side to 67 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,039 see the balloons, and Alex just got us through. I mean, 68 00:04:03,719 --> 00:04:05,360 the police would go eight and then she's like, now 69 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,280 they're with me. And it was so cool to walk 70 00:04:07,319 --> 00:04:10,159 in and we're like in the residential area. I think 71 00:04:10,199 --> 00:04:13,599 there were residential streets right, yeah, that people were waiting 72 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:16,680 hours to get into the balloons and we just right 73 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,079 in there. And how I know that was like it 74 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,600 felt I was like first class treatment. And it was 75 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:27,240 amazing to me to see how big those balloons are 76 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,720 in person. They're huge. And if I were really good 77 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:35,439 at this podcasting thing, I would have video rolling right 78 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,360 now as we're talking about it. But I didn't do 79 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:41,680 that only because I i it required an extra step 80 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,079 I didn't have time for today. I was doing invoice 81 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,600 all kinds of shit anyway. 82 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: Added to the social teas. 83 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: Later, Yeah, I will, but it was so cool. And 84 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,120 I have to tell you, if you know, I got 85 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,480 a fifteen year old son, and you know, having had 86 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,120 a fifteen year old son yourself that they're not impressed 87 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,000 by a whole lot, And in the end, I think 88 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,399 he really had a lot of fun. He was disappointed 89 00:05:06,399 --> 00:05:08,920 because he really wanted to go to Chinatown to some store, 90 00:05:09,079 --> 00:05:12,120 and I'm like, buddy, it's an over an hour, maybe 91 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,240 an hour and a half to get from the Upper West. 92 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 4: Hide, especially that day, like that weekend, there's a lot 93 00:05:18,759 --> 00:05:22,560 of trains shut down. You know, I don't think people realize, 94 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,680 like the parade is a huge to do, obviously, but 95 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,680 it literally shuts down the entire city. Trains get rerouted 96 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,360 and streets are closed and you can't walk through where 97 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:35,079 you normally would be able to just all in pursuit 98 00:05:35,079 --> 00:05:38,000 of this big event, which is, you know, spectacular and awesome, 99 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,560 but it's also you know, a bit of a pain 100 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,439 to kind of navigate. And a lot of people will 101 00:05:43,519 --> 00:05:45,399 use Google Maps and stuff to get around the city 102 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:47,439 if you're not from here, which is very helpful on 103 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,959 a normal day, but when there's a big event in town, 104 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,560 the marathon or the parade or something like that, it's 105 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,120 just kind of much harder to navigate. Google Maps hasn't 106 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,040 caught up with the closures yet, so you know. 107 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: Talk to me about that, because I mean, when when 108 00:06:02,519 --> 00:06:05,920 did you join the Macy's Day Parade team. 109 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: I joined the team in September, end of September. I've 110 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,399 only been doing it for like two months proper. 111 00:06:13,639 --> 00:06:17,319 Speaker 2: How long are they planning this parade? 112 00:06:18,399 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: Oh, they start like planning starts for them, especially this 113 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,040 year because next year is the one hundredth anniversary, so 114 00:06:27,079 --> 00:06:31,319 they'll start planning for next year right now, right now, 115 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,079 because it takes so it's so much bigger, I think 116 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,639 than people even realize, because not only is it a 117 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,879 televised TV show produced by NBC, it's also a giant 118 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,519 public event with one of like the largest volunteer programs 119 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:51,160 in the country. So it's a live event plus a 120 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,240 televised event together. So I just think people don't realize 121 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,600 the scale. So you imagine it's like an entire team 122 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,560 at NBC who handles their portion of it, and then 123 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,399 there's an entire team at Macy's who handles theirs, and 124 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,759 obviously like teams within those teams. It's a giant to 125 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,519 do more than I even thought it was. 126 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm thinking, like, you have to close down streets, 127 00:07:14,959 --> 00:07:17,639 the balloons are filled up Wednesday, when do they get 128 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,800 in place, are they put in place like Wednesday morning. 129 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 4: The cool thing that I don't think a lot of 130 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,680 people know is that Wednesday night, around three o'clock in 131 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,319 the morning, they do what's called the convoy and they 132 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,439 bring all of the balloons and floats because they live 133 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,399 in New Jersey in these studios and warehouses, and they 134 00:07:34,399 --> 00:07:37,000 bring them all over the night before around three o'clock 135 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,360 in the morning, and it is it's probably like it's 136 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:46,160 like a parade within the parade, because there's the city 137 00:07:46,519 --> 00:07:50,079 electricians come out ahead of the trucks and they swing 138 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,079 all the light poles out of the way all who 139 00:07:52,839 --> 00:07:54,519 as yes, oh. 140 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: My god, I wouldn't. I don't know why I never 141 00:07:56,279 --> 00:07:58,480 thought of that, neither did I. 142 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,279 Speaker 4: Like, as the floats and balloons coming down, they're swinging 143 00:08:01,279 --> 00:08:02,879 the light poles out of the way all the way 144 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:09,040 down uh to I think about sixty sixty sixth Street 145 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:15,000 or something like that, which means nothing to. But then 146 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,360 about I think seven eight o'clock in the morning, they 147 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,639 start flowing the helium because they want all the inflation 148 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,639 teams out there in the little jumpsuits. Because it is 149 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,879 it's community event. A lot of people come to see it. 150 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:29,439 Speaker 2: They don't want to get at that hour in the morning. 151 00:08:29,959 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 4: Yes, six seven more because it takes you know, there's 152 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:39,799 six seven six seven. There were eighteen balloons this year, 153 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,480 so it takes, you know, a certain amount of time. 154 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,679 And they they really put on this event, which is 155 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,960 what the one you came to. It's called Inflation Day 156 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,759 and it's a community event and they want people to 157 00:08:51,799 --> 00:08:54,399 get an experience, so they kind of stagger the way 158 00:08:54,519 --> 00:08:56,960 they inflate the balloons so that the press can get 159 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,840 their shots and the public can see each phase of 160 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,440 You wouldn't believe that people that come through and like 161 00:09:02,519 --> 00:09:05,120 are upset that their balloon is already inflated when they 162 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,519 were just dying, you know what I mean. 163 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: Oh, they wanted to see it happen. 164 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 4: They wanted to see it happen to get there and 165 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,120 it's already done. 166 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's it just is it was. 167 00:09:15,159 --> 00:09:17,879 Speaker 4: I've worked on some cool projects in my career. This 168 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:23,279 was probably number one. I mean, just in terms of everything. 169 00:09:23,919 --> 00:09:27,320 And it's funny because I my day to day leading 170 00:09:27,399 --> 00:09:29,960 up to Wednesday when I saw you was very much 171 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,480 like spreadsheets and logistics, and that's the world I was 172 00:09:34,519 --> 00:09:36,679 in budgets, you know what I mean, nothing like ooh, 173 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,679 this is fun and creative, and then you get there 174 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,960 and it's like wow, just wow. 175 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: I know when we were reading about the parade, I 176 00:09:44,879 --> 00:09:47,039 think in the early years they used to let the 177 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,879 balloons go afterward they and then we used to have. 178 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,799 Speaker 4: A bunch of them that they would release at the end. 179 00:09:54,919 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end. And then I think it was 180 00:09:57,639 --> 00:10:00,200 like the nineteen thirties, which I can't I don't know 181 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,480 what aviation was like then, but it cost a plane crash, 182 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,200 I think. I'm pretty sure if you look it up 183 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:14,519 when they stopped releasing the balloons because a plane crashed. 184 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 185 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 4: So the fun fact about that balloon release is back 186 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,919 in the day, if you found one of those balloons 187 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,519 that had flown away in the bouquet and brought it 188 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,399 back to Macy's, you would get one hundred dollars credit. 189 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,639 Speaker 2: Wow. Hey, no, right, So. 190 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: Think about like in the twenties and thirties. 191 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,279 Speaker 2: That's that's an entire outfit. I mean that, that's an 192 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:36,759 entire wardrobe. Excuse me. 193 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,879 Speaker 3: What they don't tell you in the introduction is why 194 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,000 they stopped doing it. That's hilarious. 195 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,799 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that we saw that online that it 196 00:10:46,879 --> 00:10:49,320 caused a plane crash in the nineteen thirties, And all 197 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,679 I was thinking was like, I don't know what aviation 198 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,120 was like in the nineteen thirties in terms. 199 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: Of, oh, yeah, that's true, Like was it jets? 200 00:10:57,519 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: So we're still dealing with, you know, was it Snoopy? 201 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:00,799 Speaker 3: Are you able to fly? 202 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,879 Speaker 2: Yes? Snoopy in the red baron? What are we doing? 203 00:11:04,159 --> 00:11:07,960 What we're in a byplane? I have no idea because 204 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,840 I'm going to kind of a cold time of year, 205 00:11:10,519 --> 00:11:12,759 so I'm assuming it was a jet and I thought 206 00:11:12,759 --> 00:11:15,440 it was nineteen thirty six, but I don't know. 207 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:19,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, the coordinator a lot of lore about there's a 208 00:11:19,879 --> 00:11:23,039 lot of I mean, obviously one hundred years, there's a 209 00:11:23,039 --> 00:11:25,720 lot a lot of lore. But I did the best 210 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,320 one I found so far that that went viral, and 211 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:31,000 the team was The other day, I was on Instagram 212 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:33,799 and I saw a video of a guy who was like, 213 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,960 the twenty twenty Macy's Thanksgiving Parade happened, but not the 214 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,240 way he thought it did. And then he launched into 215 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:46,000 this whole explanation that actually the COVID pandemic and the 216 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,039 shutdown of the city was pre planned because we have 217 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,399 aliens that we found on Venus hidden beneath the Herald 218 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,039 Square toilet, and that we used to the Macy's Thanksgiving 219 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,960 Day balloons as trojan horses to find a move these 220 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:08,759 aliens out of the city. Because in twenty twenty, obviously 221 00:12:08,799 --> 00:12:12,240 the parade was scaled down. They did a small live 222 00:12:12,279 --> 00:12:15,279 event on Thanksgiving Day, but like all the major elements 223 00:12:15,279 --> 00:12:17,279 were kind of pre taped over a couple of days, 224 00:12:17,279 --> 00:12:22,000 so it wasn't the parade like normal. But this conspiracy 225 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:25,320 was that we used the balloons to transport aliens that 226 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,679 we had found in the fifties out of the city. 227 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: Then it's freaking crazy, crazy, absolutely crazy. What is next 228 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:37,080 for you? 229 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 230 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 4: Like, thankfully, this relationship with Macy's has already opened some 231 00:12:44,159 --> 00:12:44,720 doors for me. 232 00:12:44,799 --> 00:12:47,039 Speaker 3: There's a couple of event companies that have reached. 233 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,519 Speaker 4: Out to me since, so I'll be talking to them 234 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,320 about stuff. 235 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 3: Weirdly, in the middle of this. 236 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 4: All going on, I got reached out to again by 237 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,679 mister beast Oh, which would be the second time they 238 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,399 have called, and so I might be going out and 239 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,159 doing this. The first time I didn't go down and 240 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,480 do a site visit. The second time, I might just 241 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:12,879 to see like who Cares which is obviously YouTube's biggest YouTube. 242 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: Channel in the world. 243 00:13:14,799 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: Would you have to move? 244 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:17,799 Speaker 3: I would have to move. 245 00:13:17,879 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 4: He's based in Greenville. It's it's the nice thing about them. 246 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,000 What I will say, and this isn't proprietary information so 247 00:13:25,039 --> 00:13:28,879 I can tell you, is when they want to do 248 00:13:28,919 --> 00:13:32,720 a hire, they do a ninety day trial period. So 249 00:13:32,799 --> 00:13:34,600 they bring you down and they put you up in 250 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:36,960 corporate housing, similar to how you would be if you 251 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,440 were on the road for a show and they give 252 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,279 you three months. That way, you don't get rid of 253 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,320 your apartment and sell all your things and relocate and 254 00:13:44,399 --> 00:13:46,559 you get there it's not the vibe for you, and 255 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:47,000 it's not. 256 00:13:47,039 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: The vibe for them, and you've uprooted your whole life. 257 00:13:49,639 --> 00:13:50,840 And then then what do you do? 258 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 4: So they give you ninety days, and then within that 259 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,919 ninety days, I think you produce two videos, which gives 260 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,720 them the opportunity to see how you're gonna do within 261 00:13:59,759 --> 00:14:03,279 their system. Because they operate very differently from any other 262 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,039 production out there. They just do They have a very 263 00:14:07,039 --> 00:14:09,840 things are shot as if they're live because they're one 264 00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:13,240 shot because Jimmy doesn't want things to look fake, which 265 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:16,080 I understand. So it's set up like a live show, 266 00:14:16,159 --> 00:14:18,360 and then there's producing on the back end, which is 267 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,840 like a whole you know what I mean, it's not 268 00:14:19,879 --> 00:14:20,399 what they do. 269 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,039 Speaker 3: And live live. 270 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:21,559 Speaker 2: It's live. 271 00:14:21,639 --> 00:14:22,759 Speaker 3: You see what you see, and that's it. 272 00:14:23,159 --> 00:14:26,039 Speaker 4: This is shot live and then edited to make sure 273 00:14:26,159 --> 00:14:28,399 that it's as many minutes as it needs to be 274 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,399 for YouTube, and unnecessary things are cut out and graphics 275 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:32,679 can be added and stuff like that. 276 00:14:32,759 --> 00:14:34,879 Speaker 3: So really tries to keep it authentic. 277 00:14:34,919 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 4: So I'll produce two videos, see how that goes, and then. 278 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,039 Speaker 3: Make a decision. If I say yes, they'll give me 279 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,159 relocation money. 280 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,559 Speaker 4: So in addition to like putting you up, then they 281 00:14:45,639 --> 00:14:48,039 then they help you move because he owns the whole 282 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:50,720 town of Greenville, so they can help you find out house. 283 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,879 Speaker 3: That's not part of it. That just feels a little weird, 284 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,919 you know. I mean, you're just like, once you're in, 285 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,480 you're just into this compound. 286 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,759 Speaker 2: And I a. 287 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 4: I I'm a bit of a free bird. 288 00:15:04,639 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: I like I like my freedom. 289 00:15:06,639 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, but also I've had my freedom for twenty years. 290 00:15:10,279 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: I need health. 291 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:16,679 Speaker 2: Insurance, gotcha, gotcha? What's the Would you still be able 292 00:15:16,759 --> 00:15:18,919 to do things on your own? 293 00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:20,639 Speaker 3: If I were. 294 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 4: Working for him, it would be much harder to take 295 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,120 on independent projects. 296 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,679 Speaker 2: But I mean, if you this is a nice thing because. 297 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,679 Speaker 3: I would be I would be full time doing that, right. 298 00:15:29,759 --> 00:15:31,919 I just wouldn't have time. You'd be producing. 299 00:15:32,399 --> 00:15:35,039 Speaker 4: Like I said, they do things very like they're they're 300 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,399 producing styles very different. 301 00:15:36,399 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: It's kind of intense a little bit because they have 302 00:15:40,559 --> 00:15:42,399 to stay you have to stay relevant or die. 303 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: They're the biggest channel for a reason, and they have 304 00:15:44,919 --> 00:15:46,960 to keep going because you know what I mean, for 305 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:47,639 all the reasons. 306 00:15:47,639 --> 00:15:50,879 Speaker 3: They have to keep sponsorships and whatever. So they just 307 00:15:50,919 --> 00:15:52,639 do it different. I just don't think I would have time. 308 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: You don't think you'd have to like write your own stuff, right, 309 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,039 and which would. 310 00:15:57,919 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: Be a bummer, you know. I mean, I think I 311 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,840 would have time. You know you won't have time, But 312 00:16:02,879 --> 00:16:04,519 I think it would just be much harder. And I 313 00:16:04,919 --> 00:16:07,399 have a couple of projects that I really want to 314 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:13,039 get off the ground, like for realsies that. 315 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,879 Speaker 2: Have some you know, the one that you wrote that 316 00:16:15,919 --> 00:16:19,559 I read. I loved it, did you? 317 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,039 Speaker 3: I sent you the second one, the. 318 00:16:21,039 --> 00:16:23,759 Speaker 2: Second one I haven't read yet. And I apologize for that. 319 00:16:23,879 --> 00:16:26,039 I've just been just a little bit upside down. 320 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: It's a little bit. 321 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: I'm a little bit farther along with it, and I've 322 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,559 changed some things. So I'll send it to you, like 323 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,720 just fun. It's been fun to get in and write 324 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,679 this stuff. I want to get these things submitted. You know, 325 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,320 I got plans. I want to get them made. 326 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:48,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you. I'm noticing, like you know, it 327 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:55,759 would almost be I don't want to run out of time, right, 328 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,360 I don't want to run out of time. 329 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: I want to have any like damn, I should have 330 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,000 done that ye before. I can't if I'm working for 331 00:17:04,039 --> 00:17:06,599 a mister beast, it might be a situation where like, damn, 332 00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:08,720 I could have made my movie but I didn't because 333 00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:11,279 you know what I mean. Or or it could be 334 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,039 like thank god I worked for mister Beat so I 335 00:17:13,039 --> 00:17:14,839 could have the seed money so I could make my movie. 336 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: You will never one hundred percent, I mean that's what 337 00:17:17,519 --> 00:17:22,279 I'm saying. And nothing has to happen tomorrow. Everything kind 338 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:25,759 of goes with it. I think, you know, for a 339 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:32,920 lot of things, I'm a bit of a risk taker, yeah, 340 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:36,759 to you know, to a certain extent, you know, my 341 00:17:36,839 --> 00:17:40,519 world got turned upside down and I just decided we'll 342 00:17:40,519 --> 00:17:42,440 try this. We'll just try it. And I took a 343 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,440 bunch of money and I you have to I threw 344 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,839 a bunch of money at it. And I know that 345 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,240 there were family members going, what the fuck is he doing? 346 00:17:49,839 --> 00:17:51,960 And uh, I mean even my father said to me 347 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,480 a year later, he goes, I didn't think it was 348 00:17:53,519 --> 00:17:57,079 gonna work. And I'm not saying that it's blown the 349 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,359 doors off, but I did something that many people I 350 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:01,240 can't do. Right. 351 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: I feel the same way. 352 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,519 Speaker 4: I had a lot of people like, basically laugh in 353 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:08,720 my face, what do you think you're trying to do? 354 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 3: And I was like, just watch watch me do it. 355 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: And I often I saw I saw in an interview 356 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,079 today this morning, we're taking this on the on the 357 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,400 Sunday uh. And I do enjoy the CBS Sunday Morning Show. 358 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,359 And I saw an interview with James Cameron. And when 359 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,559 you look at the ship, that guy did so he 360 00:18:34,759 --> 00:18:38,279 was a truck driver and he will yeah and he 361 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,079 wanted to. I guess he had gone to college and 362 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,680 it just wasn't for him and he didn't. So we 363 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,839 wound up being a truck driver. But he was so 364 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,480 interested in this stuff that he would go to the 365 00:18:49,599 --> 00:18:55,319 USC library and into the archives and read everything about 366 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,119 production and animation and lighting and all this stuff. And 367 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,000 he said, he would you know, xerox. It is the 368 00:19:02,039 --> 00:19:04,000 word he use, which is so funny, right, because that's 369 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,160 where that's funne I am And he said, I had 370 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,000 these binders and it was like a master class. He's 371 00:19:10,039 --> 00:19:12,200 like a graduate level course on how to do it. 372 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,519 So then he eventually got jobs. But because he was 373 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:18,759 so technically knowledgeable and self taught, like went in and 374 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,559 did it self taught right, that he was able to 375 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,039 then move up in these companies and then eventually wrote 376 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,599 Terminator and did this thing and co produced that it is. 377 00:19:32,039 --> 00:19:33,839 And yet when you look at the shit that this 378 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,200 guy does, you go, I mean Terminator was like puppetry 379 00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:41,480 and strings and you know, alien with something like that. Yeah, 380 00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:44,680 and then he right, and now he's doing and he's 381 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,559 got a museum, a private museum of all the props 382 00:19:47,559 --> 00:19:50,839 for movies he's done. And then you know, like his 383 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,839 whole thing was I need I want to explore because 384 00:19:54,839 --> 00:19:57,279 I'm interested in the Titanic. I want to go down 385 00:19:57,319 --> 00:20:00,079 in submarines and look at it. But in order to 386 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:02,000 to get that funded, I need to come up with 387 00:20:02,039 --> 00:20:04,680 a story. So he's like, all right, I'll write this story. 388 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,319 He goes, I'll make it Romeo and Juliet and and 389 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,880 that's what he did, and it became the biggest box office. 390 00:20:11,599 --> 00:20:14,799 Speaker 3: Grossery of just wanting to see the all. 391 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,759 Speaker 2: In pursuit of that, that was the whole purpose. Yeah, 392 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,640 and then took eight right, and then took eight years 393 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,440 off and did all this expiration, and then came back 394 00:20:25,519 --> 00:20:29,960 and started Avatar. And Avatar looks insane to how to 395 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:33,319 even produce that, Like the way the people siging we 396 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,039 think it's in. It's just it's nutty. But one of 397 00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:42,279 the things he said was I love doing things I 398 00:20:42,279 --> 00:20:46,160 don't know how to do. I love doing things I 399 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,559 don't know how to do, because I hope when I'm 400 00:20:48,599 --> 00:20:51,440 eighty seven and have an oxygen tube up my nose, 401 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:56,039 I'm still doing things I don't know how to do that. Yeah, 402 00:20:56,079 --> 00:20:59,279 And I thought, wow, that's a different way of because 403 00:20:59,319 --> 00:21:01,920 most of the people fear doing something they don't know 404 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:02,279 how to do. 405 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,039 Speaker 4: I feel fortunate enough in my career I have done 406 00:21:05,079 --> 00:21:08,279 so many different kinds of projects that there are definitely 407 00:21:08,319 --> 00:21:12,160 projects that I am not interested in anymore. And I 408 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,759 get to say, I don't want to do this docuseries 409 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:18,759 about this family because, you know, for whatever reason, because 410 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:21,440 it doesn't feel right to me, you know, And I 411 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,680 can say no and not feel bad about turning something 412 00:21:24,759 --> 00:21:27,079 down because if I turn around and look at the 413 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,079 things I have done, it's like, who cares, nobody's. 414 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 2: Watching this shit. Some of the preak Well, that parade 415 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,400 thing was unbelievable. Thank you so much for getting Jamison 416 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,119 and I some access to that. I've been doing some 417 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,079 things with him where I'll post once in a while. 418 00:21:45,079 --> 00:21:47,720 I don't think he's always comfortable with it, but I 419 00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:51,279 call it our mandate, and yeah, I like it. It's 420 00:21:51,319 --> 00:21:54,559 a mandate, so we h And it's a mandated it's 421 00:21:54,599 --> 00:21:58,400 a mandated mandate. And I think it's mandated more because 422 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,279 it's needed, right, And I think that a lot of times, 423 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,480 for me, I don't know about you, it was easier 424 00:22:05,519 --> 00:22:08,680 to bury myself in work than to actually deal with 425 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,759 the shit in front of me. And so now absolutely 426 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,640 part of this part of the whole thing with the 427 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:18,559 mental health counseling stuff is oh, boy, buddy, you better 428 00:22:18,559 --> 00:22:19,880 figure your shit out fast. 429 00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:24,759 Speaker 4: Is it like I'm curious, is it cracking things open 430 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,480 for you don't have to tell me, but like for 431 00:22:26,599 --> 00:22:30,920 you personally that you weren't expecting, where you're just like, oh, wow, 432 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:33,519 I guess I never thought about something that way, or 433 00:22:33,559 --> 00:22:35,720 maybe this is the way I do things because of 434 00:22:35,759 --> 00:22:38,359 this reason. Like are you learning stuff about yourself in 435 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,039 the process or is it very much like you're learning 436 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:45,400 what bipolarism is, you know, is it kind of helping 437 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,960 you with some self awareness or is it very clinical? 438 00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: No, there's a lot of self awareness, tremendous amount of 439 00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:54,480 self awareness stuff. There's a book that I had to 440 00:22:54,519 --> 00:23:00,160 read that I would say is perfect for anybody who 441 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,319 would just be therapy if you had an actual diagnosis 442 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:07,000 of something. You made me need something a little more intense. 443 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:10,920 But this was really about feelings and it was simple examples, 444 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:13,519 like you know, let's say you and somebody are in 445 00:23:13,519 --> 00:23:21,880 a relationship and the person you go to they're coming 446 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,960 back from business trips, so you're excited to see them, 447 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,759 so you make their favorite dinner and you've got it 448 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:27,680 ready and the candles, and you go pick them up 449 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,759 at the airport. And you're all excited. You get in 450 00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:34,279 the car and you say, hey, I made this dinner 451 00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:37,640 and I'm so excited you're home and oh when will 452 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,920 it be ready as soon as we get back. Fantastic 453 00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:42,359 because then I can go meet my friends at the 454 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,279 bar at ten. And you stuff it down and you 455 00:23:46,319 --> 00:23:48,680 don't say anything, and it builds up, and it builds 456 00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:50,519 up and builds resentment. And I think that's a very 457 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:52,839 relatable thing to a lot of people. But I think 458 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,839 that that getting in touch with your emotions, realizing and 459 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,279 here are the things. Like on a spiritual side, I 460 00:24:01,319 --> 00:24:04,400 say this, but there's a reality to it as well, 461 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,240 that your feelings are your guidance. Right, something feels off, 462 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,400 something doesn't feel right, something's uncomfortable, something's this, But your 463 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,000 feelings are your guidance. So when you actually can actually 464 00:24:17,079 --> 00:24:21,319 sit with the emotions and understand that and allow things 465 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,680 to be over and realize that you know, a lot 466 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,799 of life has lived up here, but yes, it has 467 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,160 uncovered a lot. I have avoided emotions. I compartamentalize things, 468 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,440 which I think is also very beneficial. Like I could 469 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:37,039 have a conversation about somebody getting killed in the DWY 470 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,440 accident and then say, well, it was nice to see 471 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,400 you guys, and I'm really glad you're here at this 472 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,279 comedy show, and then go out on stage and do 473 00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:47,079 ten minutes of funny because I can compartmentalize. I don't 474 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,559 know that that's very healthy. I have no idea, But 475 00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:54,359 I would also say that being you know, really seeing 476 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,839 like I'm like, oh my god, like fuck, I'm fucked up. 477 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,960 I gotta I got it, I gotta. I gotta deal 478 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,599 with this stuff. And I've got to, you know, admit 479 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,880 to myself and stop avoiding because I would rather go 480 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:11,200 have fun than have to deal with the serious stuff 481 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,039 in life. So I would rather go drink and uh, 482 00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:17,000 you know, meet some girl and that would become my 483 00:25:17,079 --> 00:25:20,680 priority and I'd go running out there. And I think 484 00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:25,400 that it's taken me to this point in the course 485 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,599 even to go okay, I can't do that anymore. I don't. 486 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,920 I don't really have the time for it. And right 487 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:31,279 now is. 488 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 3: Differently it does. 489 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,319 Speaker 2: And I would say, like, in a very realistic way, 490 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,319 I think that it I don't know. I enjoy this. 491 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:48,240 I enjoy the counseling side of things. So I have 492 00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:49,480 no idea where it all goes. 493 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: But you've always been into that, like, well. 494 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: I'm curious. So it's always the why, the why. 495 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,799 Speaker 3: You know, it's always like this. 496 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,839 Speaker 4: Story is funny, but why did this person dressing a 497 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,000 rabbit suit and drive, you know, seven hundred miles an hour? 498 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: Like what is you know? 499 00:26:05,799 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: What's the underlying thing? I mean, yeah, I've always thought 500 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,839 that about alcoholism and everything. Well, we can say it's 501 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,359 in your you have a disease, but what what caused it? What? What? 502 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,279 What are you avoiding? What are you hiding from? Why 503 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,960 is this? Yeah? Because drinking, I'll say it all the time, 504 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,559 is drinking's fun. 505 00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:23,799 Speaker 1: Man. 506 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: Drugs are fun. They're fun. They're a lot of fun. 507 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,119 But they can also ruin you. 508 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,279 Speaker 4: Right, and you got to be able to do cocaine anymore, 509 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,000 So forget that. 510 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: I know. So sad it is. Well, I know people 511 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,599 who I may or may not know people who still 512 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:49,240 do cocaine, and I don't know. I wouldn't. I'm not as. 513 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,599 Speaker 3: Comfortable with any It just is too scary. There are 514 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,480 just too many. 515 00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 4: Like I had a friend of mine passed away on 516 00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:58,400 my birthday from some dirty. 517 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,079 Speaker 3: Because they're they're putting fatnel in it and it just 518 00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:08,279 is like this year, No, this was twenty nineteen. 519 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: Okay, not that long ago, six years ago. 520 00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:12,519 Speaker 4: Anytime you hear do you remember that story of those 521 00:27:12,599 --> 00:27:14,880 Kansas City chiefs guys that were hanging out at that 522 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,160 guy's house in the backyard, woke up in the morning, 523 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,240 three of them were dead. 524 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,759 Speaker 3: Yes, I've known the cocaine. 525 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 4: Like that's what because they put it in there, because 526 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,400 it's highly addictive, and they're only supposed to put a 527 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,480 little bit, but they put. 528 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:28,319 Speaker 3: Too much and you die. So the fact that you 529 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,039 even have to. 530 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,519 Speaker 4: Like like figure out if you're gonna die, like I can't. 531 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,519 Speaker 3: I can't even go there. 532 00:27:34,839 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 4: No, I can figure out if I'm gonna die first, 533 00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:39,400 Like no, sorry, I'm just good. 534 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: I mean, cocaine is an adult adderall, as a friend 535 00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:46,319 of mine says. But I would rather I just take 536 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,559 the adderall you need. Yeah, believe me, I love adderall. 537 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,640 I'm to the point now where I almost needed to 538 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,519 get through the day. 539 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,599 Speaker 4: I have to stay away from like all that the 540 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,119 weed is as strong as it gets for me. 541 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,519 Speaker 3: I have to stay away from all that stuff. 542 00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: I just can't. 543 00:28:01,599 --> 00:28:03,039 Speaker 3: I've never been that kind of it. 544 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,559 Speaker 4: Just I'm too anxious of a person you do not 545 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,759 want to give an anxious person to offer this. 546 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,839 Speaker 2: Well, I can see myself get a little anxious from 547 00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:12,920 time to time, but it's now to the point where 548 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,480 it's like, I'm so if I don't have it, I 549 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,039 think I would sleep all day because I'm drained. And 550 00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:22,440 you know, I mean, look, you're right right. I had 551 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,680 somebody say that to me. But you've lived through this 552 00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:30,559 in the last six months. For me, I lost my dad. 553 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,400 I had a personal relationship that I put to an end. 554 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:39,920 There was another relationship that kind of went nowhere. There was, 555 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,680 you know, all the moving parts of this. Your a 556 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,640 single dad. I mean, I don't mean that, like his 557 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,039 mom just doesn't live in this town. So there's all 558 00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:53,000 those things you're trying to navigate. And then you took 559 00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:57,359 it on grad school and an intense program because it's 560 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,920 got to be done by twenty twenty seven, and I go, God, damn, 561 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,839 I am. I'm burned out. And somehow the adderall has 562 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,200 helped me and I get shit done, and I find 563 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,400 myself doing things like I'm turning the TV off. I 564 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,640 gotta go do this right now. I gotta do this, 565 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,680 And I don't know if that's the adderall giving you clarity. 566 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,400 I have no idea because I would melt into my 567 00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:23,359 couch and just watch anything and everything for no reason 568 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,960 and then wake up and go, why did I waste 569 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:26,720 those hours? 570 00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 4: So I mean, obviously like doctors don't like I don't know, 571 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:34,200 I don't know, You're not going to get something that 572 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,920 is I don't know, gonna hurt you. 573 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 3: But just be careful. 574 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:41,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yes, you will get stuff done, and 575 00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:43,839 there are people who need it chemically. Your body just 576 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,279 doesn't make the chemicals you need to do the things 577 00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:48,640 that you don't make enough sarahtone or dopamine and that 578 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,880 stuff helps you to achieve those lives. 579 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: These bodies I'm making enough anything to stop more of 580 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,119 all I get Leary. 581 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,519 Speaker 4: You know, I've seen a lot of addiction in this industry, 582 00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:02,480 a lot because like you know, people want to, they 583 00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:04,559 want to if they're enjoying what they're doing, they want 584 00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:06,759 to go through a wall to do it, and you know, 585 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,720 to do anything, and so you know, just everything. 586 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,279 Speaker 2: In moderation, Everything in moderation. Good note to end on, Alex. 587 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,039 I can't wait to hear about the mister b stuff. 588 00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I will keep you posted and let you know. 589 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:21,400 I'll let you know. 590 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,759 Speaker 4: You know whatever's next, so I'll let you know. Hopefully 591 00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:27,720 I'm in a position where next year for the hundredth 592 00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:31,599 I could go back and do the Greade again, because 593 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,680 I'm it was such an amazing experience and I would 594 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,880 love to do I would love to be part of 595 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,599 the hundred year. 596 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: But if not, like I take, I left nothing on 597 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,920 the table, you know what I mean. I feel like 598 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,880 I got I got everything out of that. It was amazing. 599 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,759 Speaker 4: I said to my people leader like a thousand times, like, 600 00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:52,079 thank you so much for thinking of me and bringing 601 00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:52,519 me into this. 602 00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 3: It was, it was, it was amazing to me. 603 00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: Well that is uh And I can't thank you enough 604 00:30:58,279 --> 00:31:00,880 for getting James and my too. That that was so 605 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,799 much fun. That was very cool, very cool for Alex 606 00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:07,039 who still talks to me. Hang on one second, after 607 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:10,480 we're done here, I got a question. I'm Bill Moran. 608 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:21,079 We'll see you tomorrow. I woke up in hold jail, 609 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,240 didn't know what to do.