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<v Speaker 1>My version of Bigfoot is not some big scary beast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a scary creature of a highly lightened spiritual being.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't go looking for a Bigfoot, but on a

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<v Speaker 1>particular trip out to tow Lake, Washington, when when three

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<v Speaker 1>days in twenty seventeen, that's what happened, I would share

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<v Speaker 1>this papping there was just be a capp hap hap hap.

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<v Speaker 1>It went on for probably an hour, so every time

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<v Speaker 1>I just about fall asleep, this tapping would return. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, I got woke up and I

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<v Speaker 1>had the pee, you know, I opened the door and

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<v Speaker 1>start to do my business and look up again. The

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<v Speaker 1>ego mind kick then and wants to stay like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's that a big old cow standing on a pine leg?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's not what it was. The best I

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<v Speaker 1>can describe is is it It vanishes now, It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>just like go poof right and at dawned, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>from the top of the head gears start to almost

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<v Speaker 1>just like de materialize. Yeah. No, it was solid. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I'm sure in that did. If I would have

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<v Speaker 1>gone up there and poked it, it would been pretty

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<v Speaker 1>It would have had density to it, So yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it was solid, but at one point, I

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<v Speaker 1>know it just it just dematerialized. It was not there.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like a stone's throw from the Tennessee border, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about at south Central that you can get. Lake

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<v Speaker 1>Cumberland is very close to me. And I've got the

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<v Speaker 1>Cumberland River actually in my backyard that you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's one big stassy river, you know. So it goes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of places. And I was actually drawn out

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<v Speaker 1>to this area from a visit to a friend's place

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<v Speaker 1>probably about seven years back. Really she's got a little yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's got a little spot not far for me in

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Springs. So you know, everything out here is a

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<v Speaker 1>half hour away, even if it's you know, five minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's five miles. But she's about an hour

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<v Speaker 1>from me. But yeah, a really interesting gal. And basically

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<v Speaker 1>her son had you know, I was talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how I was given a mission if you will, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was you know, decided to pick up my cross,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and really trying to follow the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>came here and you know, stop serving myself. And a

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<v Speaker 1>friend of mine said, you know you're talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>starting these healing centers and you know, I'm getting into

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<v Speaker 1>this weird etheric stuff. She's like, you're gonna meet my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, well, what's your mom's story? And she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, every he said, well, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thought mom was crazy for a minute because

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<v Speaker 1>she just kept saying, well, I'm Jesus told me to

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<v Speaker 1>buy a little piece of property outside the city where

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<v Speaker 1>people could just come and you know, heal and relax.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who just you know, kind of had too

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<v Speaker 1>much of the city. I felt like I could dig

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<v Speaker 1>that anybody that got a message from Jesus to go

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<v Speaker 1>do something like that. You know, yeah, I meet your mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I had some really amazing experiences from the

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<v Speaker 1>get go on that property and I'm just you And

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<v Speaker 1>I told she did a real simple Christian lady. But

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<v Speaker 1>I told her it was like Judy, like between du

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<v Speaker 1>and God and Jesus, Like you did a really good job,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you pick a really nice spot, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, just a really high vibrational spot.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, you know, you can start to get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people's stories around that area and this

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<v Speaker 1>area too, you know. Now, like in Birksville. Everybody's got

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they've got their uf though, and they seem

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<v Speaker 1>to have their big foot short. And then if you

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of yeah, and if you really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pry into them a little bit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll give you even a little bit more than

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes. So, yeah, there seems to be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff out here in this general area. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's why I was drawn to it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>no mistake. When I came across the property, as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as I put my feet on it, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>was I felt like I had like electricity flowing through me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, and it was just like, oh, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, yeah, this is the place. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I consider it sacred land. And so that's also how

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<v Speaker 1>I how I try to treat it, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that there's just a lot of stuff going

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<v Speaker 1>on here. I think part of my my journey and

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<v Speaker 1>all this bigger picture was to come and if nothing

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<v Speaker 1>else for a little while, to hold this land out

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<v Speaker 1>here and you know, get back in touch with it

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<v Speaker 1>and just you know, have some of the experiences that

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<v Speaker 1>I've had, and as well as to allow other people

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, come out and and you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>they need to get away from the city. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, somebody offered a place like that back in

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty seventeen where kind of my life started unfold

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<v Speaker 1>in ways I had never predicted, and I kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just sort of wanted to return that

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<v Speaker 1>and so that kind of was the the journey in

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<v Speaker 1>finding that's about five years ago. You're on a side note. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a minister. I'm not the type of minister

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<v Speaker 1>who wants to beat you up about your your sinful nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that makes sense, Matt, Yeah, yeah, I'm the minister

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<v Speaker 1>you call when something goes bumping the night, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or when you really want to talk about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not necessarily your sinful nature, but you know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing here and what your purpose. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I also consider myself a shaman. That really what is that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>on the core level, I mean there's many different levels

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<v Speaker 1>to shamanism. You know, some of it you can only

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<v Speaker 1>be born into that on a basic core level, a

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<v Speaker 1>shaman and somebody knows how to work with to help

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<v Speaker 1>those heal, and so that's just kind of a core level.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean I dig more of the ghostbusting

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<v Speaker 1>side of shaman and the healing side. I've seen higher

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual healings, but I also I dig bring in the

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<v Speaker 1>two sides together. So I also work with frequency medicines

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<v Speaker 1>out here. So a lot of people have heard about

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<v Speaker 1>rife frequencies, at least at this point. Have you heard

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<v Speaker 1>of anything about mister Royal Rife.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit, not much. I'm certainly not knowledgeable on

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff, but it's something that has crossed my desk before, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, thirty thousand foot over, do you, Matt. He was

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<v Speaker 1>just showing us back in like the late the forties

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<v Speaker 1>and fifties, is that basically a disease has a frequency

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<v Speaker 1>and vibration. He had created a machine that essentially creates

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<v Speaker 1>a frequency of vibration that can counter that. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was finding that he could take stage four cancer folks. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>stage four you know the hospital, so go home and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get your stuff together and expect to die

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of weeks. But he was actually taking them,

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<v Speaker 1>reversing them, and they were living, you know, then their

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<v Speaker 1>normal lives. We're just something as simple as frequencies. So

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<v Speaker 1>I really that past I don't know five years really

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<v Speaker 1>really dug and dove into that. But you know, is

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<v Speaker 1>that who I am? No? I mean, I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>a behavioral therapist. I was a child and adult behavioral

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<v Speaker 1>therapist for many years. I've got, you know, stories in

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<v Speaker 1>that field, gift like stuff, you know, you can't make

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff up type things, you know, stuff that was

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<v Speaker 1>never in my text. But then I got to see

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<v Speaker 1>and witness. But you know, even even that part of

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<v Speaker 1>my life, I find it interesting that it's almost if

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<v Speaker 1>I step back and I and I observed my life,

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<v Speaker 1>like do you want to call it God Creator? The

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<v Speaker 1>higher Stelf? I mean, yeah, that there has been that

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<v Speaker 1>aspect in my entire life, almost sort of like guiding

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<v Speaker 1>the whole ship. And I almost like to just sit back,

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<v Speaker 1>almost like in the third person, throw it away and

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of observe it all. My story on I

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know anywhere you want to go? Man? I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe, I mean, I know your audience was Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I do too, And but I'll be honest, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a lot of people. I think I did

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<v Speaker 1>my first interview maybe three years ago, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>then you've kind of seen I kind of started my

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<v Speaker 1>own little thing a little short, and I'll do an

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<v Speaker 1>interview here and there. But I find like people really

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<v Speaker 1>like to heavily, heavily edit sometimes my story. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the case here tonight. But my version of

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot is not some big gary beast. It's actually quite

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite that I just you know, I share it

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<v Speaker 1>because he can't make fit stuff up, and it's really

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<v Speaker 1>had a huge impact of my life. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Matt that, at least the experience that I had,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it lined up, if you will, in

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<v Speaker 1>the creator's bigger plan without me being on kind of

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<v Speaker 1>my own spiritual path. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Absolutely, And so.

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<v Speaker 1>I have sense. Now. I did not know this when

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<v Speaker 1>I ran into that first family of Bigfoot. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know that there was a whole Buddhist thing. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had Buddhists on my show and I talk a few

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<v Speaker 1>different boosts about this, and I've got a great Buddhist friend,

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't know that there. Do you know there's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole tale of Buddha and in enlightening a group

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<v Speaker 1>of sasquatch or YETI there's this whole tale now now

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I look at it now and I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, you know, you're sure it wasn't a YETI

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe enlightened the Buddha. I don't think. Kind of

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<v Speaker 1>my experience is that, like, it's not a scary creature

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<v Speaker 1>of a highly enlightened spiritual being. But I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>that on my journey. And one of the other things

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<v Speaker 1>to Buddhist day is to see the yetti, if you will,

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<v Speaker 1>you almost have to reach a certain level of consciousness,

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<v Speaker 1>right he almost kind of you know, got to pull

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<v Speaker 1>yourself out of that ego mindset. And and then they

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<v Speaker 1>say that you know the yetti will appear, Well, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>probably agree, because I've told this story a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, you know, I did not find Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot found me. I didn't go looking for Bigfoot. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I was going to a place that multiple

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<v Speaker 1>people report being running into having interactions with, but that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't my plan. But on a particular trip out to

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<v Speaker 1>Child Lake, Washington, when when three days in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Why were you going out there? Was it to try

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<v Speaker 2>and have an interaction?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Actually, I had had an accident like twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty nasty skiing accident. Now, usually when you break

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<v Speaker 1>a hip and put you back together until you start

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<v Speaker 1>walking the next day. But where I broke my effects

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<v Speaker 1>that it yeah, you'll be in bed six to eight months.

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<v Speaker 1>But during that downtime, I don't know, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time to just sit and think and focus

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<v Speaker 1>and like kind of like you know what life about

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<v Speaker 1>type then you know almost and I don't know, for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, YouTube was spitting out this guy in his

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<v Speaker 1>place out in trout Lake, Washington. It's called ec ETI

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<v Speaker 1>or set he like contact or extraterrestrial intelligence. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even really go out there for the UFOs that they

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<v Speaker 1>loved to sit out there and watch at night. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not I went out there because basically it was described

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<v Speaker 1>to me that places like this are bore Texas and

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<v Speaker 1>that when you go and take your intent, whether good

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<v Speaker 1>or bad, the intent is magnified. And so I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>my intent is I want to go out and have

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<v Speaker 1>that connection I had with Christ like I had when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a child. And all I can tell you

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<v Speaker 1>is that nobody taught me how to meditate as a child.

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<v Speaker 1>That you know, there was multiple time that I would

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<v Speaker 1>see Christ and what you could say, like a calm

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<v Speaker 1>state laying in bed and you would have to as

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<v Speaker 1>a conversations. Was introduced to a Buddha be a Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was child, Buddha had a conversation with me

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<v Speaker 1>one day and but at any rate, I digress. So

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of wanted to get that connection back. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I felt like it had you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>the au fairic connection ability to communicate just wasn't as strong.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's what I had set out really to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just okay, I'm gonna go out three days to

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<v Speaker 1>this little conference, you know, UFO conference, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to really bring the intent of bringing that connection back.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you what, brother, Like I got that

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<v Speaker 1>and then some I mean, you want to see a

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<v Speaker 1>grown man try within twelve hours of being on a property. Yeah, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it was just really interesting that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely got that connection back. And it was reminded

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<v Speaker 1>even to the whole thing that if you will fight,

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<v Speaker 1>never stepped away before it stepped away from the tables.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense. Yeah, and again and again love to

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<v Speaker 1>give to you corny on that stuff because I know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times the audience would get turned off

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as you mentioned anything like that. But again

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I went out ful. Well I got that

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<v Speaker 1>and then some. But it was the first night. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like from the get go, there's a few

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<v Speaker 1>different things you can stand. You can tenant, they had

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<v Speaker 1>a few earths. Now they made put it some other

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<v Speaker 1>things now. But I was just staying in a little

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<v Speaker 1>simple earth and you know, there's no power. That's little fireplace,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I mean it was it got chili out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was raining pretty much the whole time. Well I

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<v Speaker 1>a little stove. You know, it got going, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know I had I had left the earth and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>got out I think for a little bit of the

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<v Speaker 1>sky watch activities or whatever that first night was or

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<v Speaker 1>I was you know, really just kind of winding down

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<v Speaker 1>from you know, the plane ride out there and then

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<v Speaker 1>get a rental car and then you know, driving to

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<v Speaker 1>the place there in trout Lake. But it was, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really interesting because it was again it was

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<v Speaker 1>like from the get go, I get back the earth

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, holy cow, you're at one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ten or one hundred and twenty degree than here. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm opening the windows then laying down and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, you know, you know, kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>a little shut eye and get ready for the next

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<v Speaker 1>day's activities. But I know, it was just a few minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>and once I kind of started to just doze, I

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<v Speaker 1>would share this happening and it it was almost impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to tell where it was coming from. It sort of

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<v Speaker 1>sounded like it was coming from the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>third It was should just be a cap hap hap

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<v Speaker 1>hap hap hap cap And it went on for probably

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. So every time I just about fall to sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>this tapping would return. I'd wake up to the tapping.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd sit there and think, oh, that's interesting, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the tapping go away. I'd go back to sleep, that

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<v Speaker 1>tapping would come back. I'd wake back up and matther

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<v Speaker 1>was something about the tapping it was, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like it was more than tapping, do you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like there was a It felt like there

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<v Speaker 1>was a consciousness on the end of that. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on one thought of my mind, I wanted to sit

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<v Speaker 1>there and the you know, I think the ego mind

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<v Speaker 1>who wants to go explain everything, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>ego singer going, well, the irt that expanded right because

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<v Speaker 1>it would heat it up right, but then it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make sun. You know, It's like, yeah, but why does

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<v Speaker 1>it decide to only cap or heat up or expand

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm starting to go back to sleep, you know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't again, that maybe went on for an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I woke up. It might have been maybe

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<v Speaker 1>two or three. Little bit I'm not old, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say like I don't have the best bladder, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like, you know, I got woke up and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to pee, and you know, I'm thinking I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not running across this this you know, however far it

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<v Speaker 1>was quite a waste to the bathroom really, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, you know what, it's two in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm when I opened my door, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like this little apple orchard in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the earth. I don't know, it might be fifteen trees there,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I'm just gonna relieve myself out the door

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be like, you know, I opened the door

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<v Speaker 1>and then start to do my business and look up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean again, the ego mine kicks in and

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<v Speaker 1>wants to stay like, well, what's that a big old

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<v Speaker 1>cow standing on its hind legs? You know, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what it was. And the best I can describe it

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<v Speaker 1>is is that it vanishes. Now it doesn't just like

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<v Speaker 1>go poof, right and it's dawn, but it's from the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the head. You just starts to almost just

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<v Speaker 1>like de materialized, sort of like I'll beat me up, gotty.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying I think you know that they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting Bean the bull of the ship. That's not what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, but like I saw the thing de materialized,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, like you know, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know if I was paying attention what I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>at that point. But it finally went from you could

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<v Speaker 1>see it all the way from the head and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit right. There's like a washroom sort of

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<v Speaker 1>beat behind the orchard where they've got a washer and dryer,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's almost there's a light on there like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four to seven, so there was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>back light illumination. I wish the illumination would have been

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<v Speaker 1>from the front, but right you could.

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<v Speaker 2>See the silhouette, so it was backlit, so you could

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<v Speaker 2>tell at first that it was definitely solid.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No, it was solid. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure in that instant if I would go up

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<v Speaker 1>there and poke it, I you know, it had been furry,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have had density to it. Now, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I after seeing that, and I've seen it more

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<v Speaker 1>than once now, so yeah, I know, I know it

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<v Speaker 1>was solid, but I at one point I know it

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<v Speaker 1>just it just dematerialized. It was not there. And again

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<v Speaker 1>it happened from the from the head to the like

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<v Speaker 1>to the toes. No, I did not see it all

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<v Speaker 1>the way down to the toes, but let's yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought maybe down to the waist where it finally was

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, it was gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I get up the next and I go back

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<v Speaker 1>in the in in my arg I'm just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my head is spinning. My paradigm of of I guess

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<v Speaker 1>what reality is has just been like, yeah, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to I've gotta I've kind of like take my brain out,

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<v Speaker 1>readjust it and put it back in because I've got

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<v Speaker 1>some new information here. I didn't have it Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>was interested as a child in Bigfoot, in the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that stopped. Uh u f O. The

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<v Speaker 1>only thing I really liked. You know. I'm fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>or fifty two right now, something like that. But when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a child, you know, it's you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you're around my age, Well, we didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the internet, right, I had a library, right, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you go in and look what little Devin Lindell checked out.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all the big Foot stuff. It was all

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<v Speaker 1>the UFO and in anything paranormal. I probably had an

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<v Speaker 1>overdue and passed to you know. But you know at

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<v Speaker 1>Ciltain Pime, I guess you know, you I'm an adult

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<v Speaker 1>ride and you follow the you know, the ways of

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<v Speaker 1>the fall in the world, I think, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>get pulled away from I think, what our passions are.

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<v Speaker 1>But so it's not as though I never had any interest,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it just never really you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you feed one, right, Yeah, it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>totally different thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you aware of what you were looking at whenever

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<v Speaker 2>you saw it? Did it register that like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a Sasquatch?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I But I mean, like I there was still again,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think part of the ego brain that was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to make sense of this. There was that

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<v Speaker 1>little ego I think in the background it was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a you know, the the pastor there was

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<v Speaker 1>a there was some angus beef I think that were

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<v Speaker 1>being raged in like the next field over. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was apple acres over. But you know, the egos like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh maybe when the cows got out and walking on

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<v Speaker 1>its hind leg, you know, it's like, come on. The

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<v Speaker 1>mine had the ego I think, if you will, had

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<v Speaker 1>to explain it away. But I went back in the

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<v Speaker 1>the arth and was just you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I went to sleep for a little while because it

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<v Speaker 1>was my mind was just racing. But there was still

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<v Speaker 1>something in the back of my mind that was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say, oh no, no, no, it had to be

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<v Speaker 1>this or this. You could have seen what your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>you saw, you know what I mean. Yeah, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I get up the next morning and I go to

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast and we have kind of a group breakfast thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just start sharing my hell. And as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as I start talking about it, a couple of other

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<v Speaker 1>people who have been there a few times start chiming in. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it too. There's like did you see the family?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the kid? Did you see the mom?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh, I guess I don't know big gold,

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<v Speaker 1>you know airy now what i'd know to be fat,

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<v Speaker 1>squawked or bigfoot? But I said, I guess I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know nothing. Ton't have any you know, measurement or

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<v Speaker 1>skill that say well, this is the you know, the juvile,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the adult, this is the female. Crazy day right,

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of different things happened, but on night two

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's almost like a it's like a cobbon copy

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<v Speaker 1>of night one almost, and that I've wormed out the earth.

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<v Speaker 1>I went off and did some activities, came back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put my head on the pillow, and finally go to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep and wind down. And there we go again for

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour. Every time I would start to get

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep, I'd start to hear that tap again, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'd wake up. I kind of look around, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>where's the tapping come from? Ed go away again, I

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<v Speaker 1>go back to sleep, tapping comes back, I wake up,

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<v Speaker 1>and it goes all I don't know, like an hour

416
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<v Speaker 1>and so it's about the same time, and unfortunately I've

417
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<v Speaker 1>got to do the same business, you know, and I'm

418
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<v Speaker 1>not going to run over to the bathroom because it's

419
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<v Speaker 1>still pouring rain. So at this time it was a

420
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<v Speaker 1>little bit different man this time. And I've been phak

421
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<v Speaker 1>my whole life. I believe that everyone is. It's just

422
00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:43.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of what level you are, and it things like,

423
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<v Speaker 1>it's really not what a lot of people make it

424
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<v Speaker 1>out to be. But any rate, so I go and

425
00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:51.440
<v Speaker 1>put my hand on the door, and I thought, no, no, no, no, no.

426
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<v Speaker 1>Before I go out here, I'm gonna send a thought out.

427
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<v Speaker 1>And my thought was and getting ready to open this door,

428
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<v Speaker 1>and I gotta go Picky really bad. So yeah, there's

429
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<v Speaker 1>no choice, but I don't want to startle you. And

430
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<v Speaker 1>would you please kind of show yourself again? Does it

431
00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:13.839
<v Speaker 1>make sense? Yeah, that's about what I said, right in

432
00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:16.640
<v Speaker 1>my thoughts as I was sort of projecting them out.

433
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<v Speaker 1>And so I opened the door. Well there it is Matt,

434
00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:25.640
<v Speaker 1>not one, not two, but three of them. Wow. Now

435
00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:28.960
<v Speaker 1>this at this point it's a little bit obvious. I

436
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<v Speaker 1>would say. The first night, what I saw was the

437
00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:36.839
<v Speaker 1>young one, and so from I guess my left to

438
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<v Speaker 1>my right right as I'm looking out, it would be

439
00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the young one mom's and I say mom, because it

440
00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:49.599
<v Speaker 1>the figure was different, right, It was like it would

441
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<v Speaker 1>ben like a more feminine figure, not quite as big

442
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<v Speaker 1>as the one to the furthest on my right, which

443
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<v Speaker 1>was considerably bigger than the smaller one. And again looking

444
00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:02.440
<v Speaker 1>back at it, I'm like, yeah, I saw that the

445
00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:05.160
<v Speaker 1>smaller one. So what I follow the first night? They're

446
00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:08.960
<v Speaker 1>almost like in a Unison step and they're not moving

447
00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:12.680
<v Speaker 1>like fast. It's almost like step one, step two, you know,

448
00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:16.519
<v Speaker 1>just like at a at a real slow gate. But

449
00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:20.240
<v Speaker 1>they they begin then to do that same thing. They

450
00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:23.119
<v Speaker 1>begin to vanish from top to bottom and almost like

451
00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.079
<v Speaker 1>they did it in Unison. Do here. So when we're

452
00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:29.400
<v Speaker 1>again just from the head to the shoulders, to the

453
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<v Speaker 1>chest and to the waifs that they're gone, it's just

454
00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:36.240
<v Speaker 1>more confirmation to me that not only they're highly like

455
00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:40.799
<v Speaker 1>they can communicate with us. But so I go back in.

456
00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I finished my business, I shut the door, and I

457
00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:46.599
<v Speaker 1>do stand there for a minute because I'm kind of like, yo,

458
00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>what'd your mind just coming? Like? However, you exited with

459
00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:52.519
<v Speaker 1>coming back in the same way, you know, you know

460
00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:55.559
<v Speaker 1>what you mean yeah, but yeah, that that didn't happen.

461
00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:57.119
<v Speaker 1>But I did stand there for a minute. I also

462
00:24:57.160 --> 00:24:59.000
<v Speaker 1>stood there for a minute just in awe at this

463
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<v Speaker 1>point in time seeing three of them, Like, the ego's

464
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:06.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty crushed. It can't explain this away, but I go

465
00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:10.519
<v Speaker 1>back in, I put my head on the pillow and

466
00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and there was still that little bit of the ego.

467
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Well I knew it wasn't and in my mind I heard,

468
00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>if you will, the ego say a deer or bigfoot. Now,

469
00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Assuna's bigfoot came through my mind the top of the year.

470
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<v Speaker 1>It goes. Now a lot of people like, we're like

471
00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:36.920
<v Speaker 1>definitely like scared shitless. No, No, I wasn't. I wasn't

472
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:41.599
<v Speaker 1>scared whatsoever. Like the message that I got. And I

473
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:44.559
<v Speaker 1>believe that the little one banging on the top was Yo,

474
00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:48.279
<v Speaker 1>it's me. I'm telling you by responding to your thought

475
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and and all I've got. All I got from that

476
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:54.880
<v Speaker 1>that knocking and that consciousness, if you will, that I

477
00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:58.119
<v Speaker 1>talked about I felt on it that first night was

478
00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:03.920
<v Speaker 1>just nothing but pure unconditional love. And I don't know,

479
00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:05.880
<v Speaker 1>some people have said, well, Devin, that was a state

480
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:09.039
<v Speaker 1>of consciousness you were in and so they just reflected

481
00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:11.599
<v Speaker 1>that back to you. And I think there might be

482
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:14.319
<v Speaker 1>some truth to that now that when some people go

483
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:16.559
<v Speaker 1>into the woods and they get like a nasty bigfoot,

484
00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:20.759
<v Speaker 1>I think like, well, just like the offended masters, like

485
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Christ and like Buddha, and like anyone who reaches a

486
00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:26.039
<v Speaker 1>higher level of consciousness, what they tend to do is

487
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:30.039
<v Speaker 1>when people come across these people or I think even beings,

488
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.200
<v Speaker 1>did they simply had their own consciousness reflected back to them.

489
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<v Speaker 2>It seems to be the case in a lot of situations,

490
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:45.079
<v Speaker 2>for sure. There seems to be a direct correlation between

491
00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:50.640
<v Speaker 2>the experience someone has with them in accordance with what

492
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:54.400
<v Speaker 2>intent that person has at the time and where they're

493
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<v Speaker 2>at and what they're doing.

494
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so, I think so.

495
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:06.759
<v Speaker 3>But you know that that also, if you know, if

496
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:09.079
<v Speaker 3>we if we go ahead and and look back at

497
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:11.119
<v Speaker 3>even some of the and I want to go on

498
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:15.119
<v Speaker 3>to the that next day too, because some people all

499
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:15.839
<v Speaker 3>lose at.

500
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.599
<v Speaker 1>This part of the story. But I'm I'm gonna tell

501
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:20.839
<v Speaker 1>you because I do believe this tie is all went together.

502
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:26.880
<v Speaker 1>But you know, you've got the Native Americans again, I'm

503
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.559
<v Speaker 1>not real great, I'm pulling their tails I'm not a native,

504
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>but I've listened to plenty of them, and that I

505
00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:34.279
<v Speaker 1>guess at some point in time. One of their tales

506
00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:37.839
<v Speaker 1>is that the bigfoot and human kind of co mingled,

507
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>or they were much more aware of each other. And

508
00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:42.519
<v Speaker 1>then at some point in time, the big Foot of

509
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the Sasquatch went on more of a spiritual evolution where

510
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:50.039
<v Speaker 1>we went more on, if you will, the fall in

511
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>world evolution and things of man and rather not things

512
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:56.079
<v Speaker 1>of nature. I don't know, and maybe that is true.

513
00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's why, you know, you've got to almost be

514
00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>at a high enough conscious level to to interact with them.

515
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:04.079
<v Speaker 1>The second day when I come back, and you know,

516
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting back again after that second second night and

517
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>seeing the free I shit down to breakfast again, and

518
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just you know, I'm just like like, I don't know,

519
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I've got to seem like a little kid. I mean,

520
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm like so excited and everything else. I'm just telling

521
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>this tale right of seeing the family that was discussed

522
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:27.119
<v Speaker 1>and telling them, you know, the banging on the earth

523
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and all of that, and you know, my mind is

524
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>still just it's like on a Bigfoot overload, you know,

525
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of other things I got to

526
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>see out there too, but at least right now we're

527
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>on Bigfoot. And and so I go back. The apple

528
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.359
<v Speaker 1>orchard actually had several apples on the tree, and I'm

529
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>like huge apple eaters, so I have I think a

530
00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>couple of eggs. And then I went out and just

531
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.799
<v Speaker 1>started picking apples and the apple orchard and just eating

532
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>them right off the tree. And I thought, oh, this

533
00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>is interesting. As I'm sitting there and right about the

534
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:06.599
<v Speaker 1>time I'm just pondering on the events on the night before,

535
00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>a buck and a mother and a baby deer walk

536
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>into the orchard.

537
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Huh yeah.

538
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:21.039
<v Speaker 1>The baby walked all the way up to me, and

539
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought, well, you're an awful brave little deer. I

540
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:26.799
<v Speaker 1>mean close enough I could have like grabbed its nose.

541
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Now I didn't. They're right about that time. I mean,

542
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.039
<v Speaker 1>your audience can make of what they want of this

543
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>that I share it. And this is this is this

544
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:39.519
<v Speaker 1>is just what I believe at that moment when I

545
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, holy cow, you're a brave little deer and

546
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I just want to grab your little fuzzy nose, you know,

547
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:50.119
<v Speaker 1>there was something inside Mutes said, no, that's Bigfoot. And

548
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>somehow you're seeing or it's projecting a deer now light.

549
00:29:56.039 --> 00:30:02.599
<v Speaker 1>When that happened, the buck orded scratching at the ground. Now,

550
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 1>if you ever see like deers, dude, generally what they're

551
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>telling the other deers, Hey, it's time to go, let's move.

552
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what happened. It was almost like the

553
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:16.319
<v Speaker 1>little baby with a little hesitant, but dad starts scratching

554
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:19.039
<v Speaker 1>at the ground, and Dad started moving, Mom was following,

555
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:22.599
<v Speaker 1>and then finally the baby followed. Now again, a lot

556
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 1>of people sayah, right, Devin, I believe you called Bigfoot

557
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:26.519
<v Speaker 1>the first night and the suckond night, but I'm not

558
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>buying this. You know you saw Bigfoot as a deer. Well,

559
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I've shared this story with a few different Lakota and

560
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>an elder while with out there the next year, and

561
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:38.839
<v Speaker 1>he just told me, he said, no, Dad, and I

562
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:40.759
<v Speaker 1>believe that's what's it's all. And I said, what do

563
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:43.279
<v Speaker 1>you mean? Like, you know, other people are having trouble

564
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>believing that maybe that next morning I saw the same family,

565
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>but for whatever reason, that's not what they showed up as.

566
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Or you know, either they most into something else or

567
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I believe it's more like a mind trick that they

568
00:30:55.759 --> 00:31:00.079
<v Speaker 1>do on you. But he said, Belle, lord and e

569
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>we we will talk about the sad squatch and that

570
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, you could be a group of hunters, he said,

571
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.599
<v Speaker 1>walking up the mountain and you know, hunting fat squatch.

572
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And a hunter can walk by you with his gun

573
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>in hand, and then you know, his hunting gear on,

574
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 1>and you can say, hey, where's the fat squatch and

575
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>he might say, won't click up the road here, and

576
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.279
<v Speaker 1>you just walk by bigfoot. I don't know. Apparently they

577
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>believe that. I don't know if they're morphing or if

578
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>they're just sort of projecting something into the mind of

579
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the person that's seeing them, but that the next morning,

580
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, my hand to God, if you know,

581
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:42.279
<v Speaker 1>if somebody wants to press me on it, now, there

582
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 1>was a bigfoot. I don't know exactly what they're doing. Again,

583
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I think they're probably somehow twisting my own mind to

584
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>make me think that that's what I was actually looking at.

585
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's not the first time I've heard that.

586
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Have you The deer there's a guy that tells a

587
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:04.559
<v Speaker 2>story about seeing a bigfoot turn into a deer, and

588
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:08.960
<v Speaker 2>the idea of them being able to kind of project

589
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:14.079
<v Speaker 2>things into people's minds to conceal their identities or whatever.

590
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Is something that I've heard a few times over the years.

591
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me go to them. The following year

592
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>and I was again following what I believe is it was.

593
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I was almost like on an etheric boot camp. For

594
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>about five years. I was on the road and so

595
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>literally if I got thought of the what I would

596
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>call it, you know, the holy spirits that he go here.

597
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I had a job basically where I could kind of

598
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>throw everything in the back of the trunk and work remotely.

599
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, oh, you know, I'm game, you know,

600
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 1>And so I just heard it kind of plain as day.

601
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>It was about two years prior to me going to

602
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>was Cameron, Texas, and I did some sharecropping out there,

603
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>just basically told, you know, take the business out there.

604
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>He puts feet in the you know, and get back

605
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>in touch well being understanding that I've I've seen through

606
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the veil. I had my first encounter with a black

607
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>astral being and got to cast it out if you will,

608
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:15.559
<v Speaker 1>when I was about four. But the probably I think

609
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>part of me going on these journeys was almost to

610
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>get back to I think maybe original reason I came here,

611
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe some of the gifts that I, you know, I

612
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:27.519
<v Speaker 1>had been given. So I was out on this property

613
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I went doing sharecropping and just having some

614
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>really interesting UFO encounters and other encounters. But I was

615
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>noticing that one night and actually a couple of days

616
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>were just wellarticularly hairy, and all I can tell you

617
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>is that like the uh, the negative energies or whatever

618
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:49.319
<v Speaker 1>you want to say, we're just getting a little bit

619
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:52.039
<v Speaker 1>too much for me. And it was just kind of

620
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>feeling a little bit of the ick and the ooze

621
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and almost like I have something sort of latched onto

622
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>my back and I couldn't shake it. I couldn't even

623
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:05.319
<v Speaker 1>really see it. There was a lot of weird you know,

624
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>there's there's some Poulter guys on that property. That was

625
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.519
<v Speaker 1>my first time running into a Poulter guy. So it's

626
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>hard to tell what I think had latched on to me,

627
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>But I mean I just couldn't take it off, and

628
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.039
<v Speaker 1>my normal things that I would do, prayer and different techniques,

629
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I just was like, no, I can't seem to get

630
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>rid of this nazy thing. I'll just share it with you.

631
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Because we're on the subject of them morphing. So I

632
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.079
<v Speaker 1>believe that more than one time I've run into this

633
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>same family and it's not been in the same location.

634
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>So and I'll just share the story with you. Yeah,

635
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>so on this it was a three hundred acre organic ranch.

636
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Now we also had he had cattle, you know, he

637
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 1>had the big steer cattle and had a few others.

638
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:54.639
<v Speaker 1>He had horses, but they were pretty much on one

639
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.119
<v Speaker 1>side of the property. Yeah, there was a fence over

640
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>near my cabin that that they could if they wanted

641
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to wander over there, they could, But I mean it

642
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.559
<v Speaker 1>was rocky, gravelly stuff over on the side of the

643
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>fence and that that I did never really fall cows

644
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:12.679
<v Speaker 1>or sears go over there, you know.

645
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

646
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 1>But I'm walking back to the irth and I'm also

647
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>sitting there thinking, man, I still got this negative thing

648
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>on hanging on my back, and you know, it's kind

649
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.079
<v Speaker 1>of like, what am I going to do here to

650
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:26.519
<v Speaker 1>get rid of this? You know, I'm I've been leneering

651
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>now for a couple of days, and I walk into

652
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:33.159
<v Speaker 1>the cabin. I think I'm really too much focused on

653
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, just I don't know a lot of the

654
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the negative stuff that has gone on

655
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:41.840
<v Speaker 1>the property. But I had looked over it was about

656
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, forty feet away was where the fence

657
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>line was, you know that would divide the field. And

658
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 1>well there is where we go again is a big

659
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>old steer but look to probably be a female and

660
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:59.320
<v Speaker 1>a smaller you know, a smaller I guess, you know

661
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever spear probably cow right. I didn't, but it was

662
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>at first it didn't make much sense to me, like

663
00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. They didn't register right away, but they were moving,

664
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>but it was like, what the heck happened to your moor?

665
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean? Like it just sounded

666
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>so strange, like you know what I mean, Like it

667
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.039
<v Speaker 1>just didn't sound right like I understood, Like I understood

668
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.639
<v Speaker 1>when I was looking at it didn't register right away,

669
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:26.239
<v Speaker 1>like what are you guys doing over here? Like I

670
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 1>never see any of this steer over here? That's loggy

671
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:30.559
<v Speaker 1>ground over there. You know, how are you even walking

672
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.800
<v Speaker 1>over there without just you know, falling over? And and

673
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>then this weird mood that they were putting out and

674
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:41.599
<v Speaker 1>it was almost like you're doing it in unison. And

675
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>then so I I see that I turned I opened

676
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the door to my cabin and I shut it. Well,

677
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:54.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever was on my back was gone, just like it vanished,

678
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:56.119
<v Speaker 1>It was gone. I was like, holy cow, what what

679
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the heck just happened there? Do you know what I mean?

680
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>And it But then I go back to wait a minute,

681
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>what's going on in those three cows? This yeer in

682
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.559
<v Speaker 1>the and the would be would appear to be a

683
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:12.320
<v Speaker 1>teamale and a smaller one and open the door back

684
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>up to where they were and that just within a

685
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:19.320
<v Speaker 1>second and they were not there. They were going And

686
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:24.199
<v Speaker 1>I believe that that same family and what did they do?

687
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We're removing some negative energy off me

688
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:31.039
<v Speaker 1>like a good shuman? What have I guess? Like I

689
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:32.679
<v Speaker 1>should have been able to if I was, you know,

690
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>really on my game.

691
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:38.639
<v Speaker 2>There are some things that you've said that have been

692
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:43.360
<v Speaker 2>said in other episodes with people that I've talked to,

693
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:49.119
<v Speaker 2>just some reoccurring things that seem little. But there's certain

694
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:51.880
<v Speaker 2>things that are standing out to me that are different

695
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:56.920
<v Speaker 2>from typical big foot encounters that people have. If you know,

696
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>they're just out camping with the family in the wood

697
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>and see when while they're out hiking or something, the

698
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:08.159
<v Speaker 2>movements in unison, the tapping sequences and everything on the

699
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:13.039
<v Speaker 2>roof and a few other things. I've actually had a

700
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:19.920
<v Speaker 2>practicing Buddhist on the show before talk about some very

701
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:24.840
<v Speaker 2>similar things that you've mentioned, and they.

702
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:27.320
<v Speaker 1>And they, as far as I know what I'd explained to,

703
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:31.400
<v Speaker 1>they just call them David and so I kind of

704
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:34.840
<v Speaker 1>like basically any bean that can kind of go from

705
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:38.079
<v Speaker 1>their dimension in and out of our dimension, and you know,

706
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:40.280
<v Speaker 1>they just put it in one big category good and

707
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:42.679
<v Speaker 1>bad or just all Davis. But they do, they do

708
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.440
<v Speaker 1>say that, I believe, you know, they'll say there's some

709
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:50.039
<v Speaker 1>natty Davis where they're basically angelic. Well, my interaction with

710
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:53.039
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot has been nothing that I get you called angelic.

711
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you think that there's the two different varieties though,

712
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:02.519
<v Speaker 2>whenever it comes to these beings, you.

713
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Know, I've I've got to I've got to understand that.

714
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I I don't think everyone out there is Sometimes I

715
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:14.000
<v Speaker 1>think people are telling another person's story. Sometimes I don't

716
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>think they know what they're seeing. And there's a lot

717
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:20.079
<v Speaker 1>of things out in the woods. You know. Yeah, I

718
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>probably are going to go back to if it if

719
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.960
<v Speaker 1>they are indeed running into a fast squad or a

720
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot and they have a negative encounter. I want to

721
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:33.119
<v Speaker 1>say more, it's probably just that the creature is reflecting

722
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:38.679
<v Speaker 1>back wherever you're at. And you know, but you know,

723
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, people don't like it when I say, you know,

724
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:44.519
<v Speaker 1>what do you do on hunting for bigfoot nets or

725
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:48.280
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot you know, droppings? If I'm gonna if or you know,

726
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:50.559
<v Speaker 1>you wonder if I've heard some people wonder, you know, well,

727
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>how do they tolerate the cool or the warm or

728
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you know whatever. I'm like, I'm an inter dimensional being.

729
00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:58.840
<v Speaker 1>What do I got to worry about any of that stuff?

730
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:03.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'll just, you know, if if it's too

731
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:05.800
<v Speaker 1>cold up here in Kentucky, and I guess I go

732
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>down to the Florida swamp, you know, I just just

733
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:10.840
<v Speaker 1>teleoport myself and that how it works. I guess.

734
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. That's that's the key. I don't think

735
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.320
<v Speaker 2>anybody knows for sure what's going on with these things.

736
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've I've had a run in with a dog

737
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>man on my property that was not benevolent, I don't believe.

738
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:29.800
<v Speaker 1>And you know, if anything, that thing was just trying

739
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 1>to scare the the ebgb's out of me. But you

740
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:36.920
<v Speaker 1>know it, I've seen a lot. I've seen a lot

741
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:39.480
<v Speaker 1>since I was a kid, so I think maybe it

742
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>takes a little bit more to scare me than the

743
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:43.679
<v Speaker 1>average person.

744
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:45.199
<v Speaker 2>Would you mind talking about that?

745
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:48.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, I just I'll just tell you, and I'm

746
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:50.599
<v Speaker 1>going to tell you in the entirety, or try to

747
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:55.280
<v Speaker 1>my best I can. It's very short, and there's but

748
00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's nonetheless, I know what happened, and I'll

749
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:03.400
<v Speaker 1>just share with you how it happened. And yet people

750
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:06.960
<v Speaker 1>take what they want of it. So I had been out,

751
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it was probably right at twenty twenty,

752
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:13.760
<v Speaker 1>late twenty twenty, and it was allish because I remember

753
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.599
<v Speaker 1>the others and I just been on the property a

754
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>few months. And there is a spot on my property.

755
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Actually I call it baptismal pond. Now that's another story,

756
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think I accidentally named it baptismal pond.

757
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I haven't any baptisms in there, but there does seem

758
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:34.559
<v Speaker 1>to be something really special about this area of the property.

759
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:38.039
<v Speaker 1>And I come to find out that before I own

760
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>the property, some other people in this town were actually

761
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:45.320
<v Speaker 1>going to that same spot on the property. And we're

762
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>saying basically they're kind of having I recon call it

763
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:53.559
<v Speaker 1>miraculous feelings, but they were able to other woman said

764
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>she was able to go down and just let Steph go.

765
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, so I'm on the part of the property

766
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:05.400
<v Speaker 1>where i've myself, I've been down there, and let's just say, like,

767
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you just feel this higher energy a lot of times,

768
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:11.079
<v Speaker 1>and you know it's just a I don't know if

769
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:14.039
<v Speaker 1>it's shit, a very very pleasant vibe if you will,

770
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>right down there. And well, one night I'm down there

771
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and I was walking from my house down to this

772
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>pond at about I don't know, it's about one hundred yards.

773
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:29.559
<v Speaker 1>It's not very far, and so i'd not maybe like

774
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 1>a fourth away through my beer and i'd shut that

775
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>down on a picnic table down there. And I want

776
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to cover this part birth because I think somehow they

777
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>pie together. And I've heard one other person report seeing

778
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a dog man and also report something similar. Now at

779
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the time, I know I've got a neighbor, and now

780
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>she's another like forty acre lot over. So but if

781
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>thee sort of offen my property towards her a property,

782
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>it was like almost like a towilkling of light, and

783
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:04.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. The best I can describe is it

784
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:07.559
<v Speaker 1>seems I was almost like a metallic twinkle, if that

785
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Now, there wasn't like one pinpoint where they

786
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.159
<v Speaker 1>were coming from, but they were coming from a general area,

787
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and it was just a really brief sort of thing.

788
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:19.079
<v Speaker 1>But my mind was kind of like, well, what the

789
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>heck was that? You know, is my neighbor having like

790
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a little bounty house, you know, play party and I'm

791
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>seeing like the lights off retract off of that or something.

792
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:33.480
<v Speaker 1>But now looking back, now, no, there was, you know,

793
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:35.880
<v Speaker 1>my e I just wasn't really familiar with the property

794
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.159
<v Speaker 1>to where my neighbors were there. There was nothing in

795
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:41.280
<v Speaker 1>that general area, and like somebody was back in my

796
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:44.239
<v Speaker 1>woods mess around with some weird life I've never seen.

797
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:48.880
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing in that area. But I just kind of like, oh,

798
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting, little little twinkles of lights there, you know.

799
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>But immediately after I saw that twinkle, just seconds later,

800
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I hear sounds like a dog in the briar's next

801
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to the pond. Now I have since cut back the

802
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 1>briers because they had been so neglected that they were

803
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:12.519
<v Speaker 1>just really heavy. But in my mind too, I'm like,

804
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:17.360
<v Speaker 1>what's the dog doing over here in the briars, you know, yeah,

805
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>like but you I would have said it was on

806
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the ground that I could hear it. I mean like

807
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:26.840
<v Speaker 1>snipping in court, sort of grunting it. And I'm thinking, well,

808
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:29.920
<v Speaker 1>where are my dogs? My dogs are back up at

809
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:32.239
<v Speaker 1>the house. Yeah, I've got a couple of big dog

810
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:34.320
<v Speaker 1>and a couple of smaller dogs. They're back up in

811
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.639
<v Speaker 1>the house. I know it's not them my neighbors around here.

812
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:40.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, you get into rule parks Kentucky a lot

813
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.559
<v Speaker 1>of times people let their dogs wander. But you know,

814
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:46.280
<v Speaker 1>even the neighbors dogs, they don't come down to my pond. Now,

815
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 1>they'll walk the street in between, you know, wherever they're

816
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:51.280
<v Speaker 1>going to the next house. I don't see him down there.

817
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.960
<v Speaker 1>But I thought, well, I got you know, I got

818
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:58.320
<v Speaker 1>a neighbor's dog in my briars, right. I don't know

819
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>what the dog would be doing in the briar, wouldn't

820
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:03.760
<v Speaker 1>seem to be a very comfortable place to be. But

821
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:07.079
<v Speaker 1>I thought, well, I'm gonna sew it out, you know,

822
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna kind of now make a little noise and

823
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.840
<v Speaker 1>stop at the ground. And that's what I did, thinking

824
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:17.280
<v Speaker 1>it was gonna bowled out of the bushes. Well, it

825
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:22.519
<v Speaker 1>didn't build out of the bushes. The best I can

826
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:26.639
<v Speaker 1>describe is it stood up. Now. When I say I

827
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:30.639
<v Speaker 1>saw it, I followed in my third eye, I did

828
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>hear it. And but so people who medicate and meditate regularly,

829
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:39.159
<v Speaker 1>particularly if you're a weird person like me, who's you know,

830
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of in the shamanic way. Sometimes I'll meet somebody

831
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.079
<v Speaker 1>and I'll go to shake their hand. I'll even shut

832
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:46.960
<v Speaker 1>my eye for a moment to kind of see what

833
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I see around the person. That makes sense, Yeah, Or

834
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>if I go to somewhere and I'm feeling some sort

835
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:54.840
<v Speaker 1>of you know, different energy, I'm shutting my eyes to

836
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:57.800
<v Speaker 1>see what I'm seeing with that other eye. And a

837
00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:00.519
<v Speaker 1>lot of times, believe it or not, your third I

838
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:02.840
<v Speaker 1>can give you more detail than what you know. That

839
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:06.239
<v Speaker 1>our our physical eyes that only see what not even

840
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.519
<v Speaker 1>a third of percent of the light spectrum. Right, So

841
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:14.119
<v Speaker 1>what I do is, you know, I I feel this thing.

842
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Basically I can say, is I feel it like walk

843
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:18.920
<v Speaker 1>through me? And my people might talk with them. Why

844
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:20.679
<v Speaker 1>do you think it walked through You say you couldn't

845
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.760
<v Speaker 1>see it, well, because all of a sudden I had

846
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.719
<v Speaker 1>to grab a hold of the table. Like what I

847
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:31.599
<v Speaker 1>think happened when it walked through me was that it

848
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.000
<v Speaker 1>may be messed with my chakra or my own energetic

849
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:39.199
<v Speaker 1>system to where like I was sort of discombobulated that

850
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:43.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I felt like I had about a twelve

851
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:46.760
<v Speaker 1>pack of beer for about five seconds. I had to

852
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:49.760
<v Speaker 1>grab a hold of the picnic table almost from falling over.

853
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:54.440
<v Speaker 1>But and that moment, what I did was I shut

854
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:57.119
<v Speaker 1>my eyes, like what is this? Because it was it

855
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.599
<v Speaker 1>was it was very, very very dark out there. I

856
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:02.039
<v Speaker 1>believe than new moons. There wasn't any you know, there

857
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:04.800
<v Speaker 1>wasn't any moonlight, nothing to really be casting any sort

858
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 1>of light. He sided a little flickle. I thought this

859
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:12.800
<v Speaker 1>prior to this, But I have, like again this moment

860
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.400
<v Speaker 1>where I believe my power centers, my chakra have been

861
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:18.719
<v Speaker 1>spun or they're just not in alightenment anymore. To what

862
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:22.280
<v Speaker 1>my physical being can't even really stand there. And I

863
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:28.199
<v Speaker 1>shut my eyes and I see it. Well, it's very

864
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:32.199
<v Speaker 1>skinny body, almost sort of like hunched over, you know,

865
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>humanoid form, but it's got a big long snout and

866
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:40.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a you know, it's a dog head. But people

867
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>can say, You're like, Okay, Devin, now you think you're

868
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:46.280
<v Speaker 1>seeing this thing in your third eye. But what I

869
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:49.960
<v Speaker 1>hear at the same time that I see this thing

870
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:53.039
<v Speaker 1>in my third eye standing behind me. As all this said,

871
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:59.119
<v Speaker 1>and I hear the faith gets me free. Times I

872
00:47:59.199 --> 00:47:59.679
<v Speaker 1>lose your man.

873
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.599
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm just trying to wrap my head around this.

874
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, ask me any questions, I'll be better thing I

875
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 1>can tell you.

876
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:10.559
<v Speaker 2>But I want to ask you if you chose that

877
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:12.679
<v Speaker 2>property for a reason?

878
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Specific reason was really I'm kind of looking for that

879
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 1>piece of sacred land that sort of got that that

880
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:23.360
<v Speaker 1>nice buzz and field where the veil gets very thin,

881
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:27.440
<v Speaker 1>if you will, Because I do believe that in certain

882
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:29.639
<v Speaker 1>parts of the world, you know, people will talk about

883
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.079
<v Speaker 1>the grid system right the lay lines of the earth.

884
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:35.159
<v Speaker 1>I do believe that there is something to the different

885
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:38.760
<v Speaker 1>places that I visited. The place that I've talked to

886
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:40.679
<v Speaker 1>you a little bit about being hired to be a

887
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:43.719
<v Speaker 1>shaman and a ghostbuster, and some sacred land in Colorado.

888
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and yeah, So I did deliberately pick this spot

889
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.400
<v Speaker 1>because I feel the veil was spin here and I

890
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.360
<v Speaker 1>think the work that I do is a little bit easier,

891
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and I like you know, I think once you really

892
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:03.079
<v Speaker 1>dive into paranormal, when you realize that there are uso,

893
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:06.920
<v Speaker 1>there are cryptids. I mean, personally myself, I've just kind

894
00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Speaker 1>of It's not like it's my constant pursuit. But if

895
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:12.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a passion, you know, why wouldn't I want to

896
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:15.960
<v Speaker 1>put myself where I can have more experience of that.

897
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:17.920
<v Speaker 1>If I was in to good at surfing, I'd try

898
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>to live on the coast. Right. I'm an awful surfer,

899
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, so I've been experiencer I see, it's the

900
00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:28.039
<v Speaker 1>veil since I was a child. So I you know,

901
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:31.719
<v Speaker 1>why not you know, my in my semi in my

902
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:34.360
<v Speaker 1>semi retired years, why not pick this property.

903
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.480
<v Speaker 2>It's just the sacred ground thing has come up, you

904
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.960
<v Speaker 2>know obviously several times while you were talking, and it's

905
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:46.760
<v Speaker 2>got me thinking about the whole concept about how you know,

906
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:52.440
<v Speaker 2>back before technology, sacred ground, sacred areas were just a thing.

907
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:58.360
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't folklore, you know, it wasn't anything paranormal. It

908
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 2>was just a thing. If you look at the Pyramids

909
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:04.679
<v Speaker 2>and Stonehinge and all these huge mysteries of the world,

910
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, those locations were picked for a reason, and

911
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:11.199
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't just a single culture. It was all cultures

912
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:13.679
<v Speaker 2>believed that there were areas that were sacred. There were

913
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:19.079
<v Speaker 2>areas that were spiritual, there were areas that were good energy,

914
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:23.559
<v Speaker 2>positive energy, other areas that were dark energy, and it

915
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:27.719
<v Speaker 2>was just an accepted thing. And those areas were still

916
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:31.239
<v Speaker 2>on the same planet. They didn't go away. We just

917
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:35.559
<v Speaker 2>pulled ourselves away from them. However we did it through

918
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:39.320
<v Speaker 2>technology or just you know, however you want to say

919
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:40.079
<v Speaker 2>that it happened.

920
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:43.719
<v Speaker 1>But I think, well, I think for a lot of

921
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:45.679
<v Speaker 1>a lot of of course, a lot of history has

922
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:48.199
<v Speaker 1>been twisted in and raised. I think a lot of

923
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:50.320
<v Speaker 1>the true knowledge and wisden that we used to have

924
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:53.760
<v Speaker 1>been twisted in a race. I think that if you will,

925
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:57.800
<v Speaker 1>if if my experience had been and I've had other

926
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.239
<v Speaker 1>people come to this protropherty and you know, those say

927
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:02.239
<v Speaker 1>the same thing, and I tell them, I said, listen,

928
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:05.320
<v Speaker 1>this is sacred land. You will have whatever you bring

929
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to this property intensified times a thousand or I should

930
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:11.800
<v Speaker 1>make sure you know you're coming from the heart. But

931
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing here as I've seen in other

932
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>places like this. It's like I've seen prayer. Answer man

933
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Matt I've seen I've seen prayer answer in less than

934
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:27.039
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours when I when I've lived in different

935
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.599
<v Speaker 1>places like this, and it's just like, look, you know,

936
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:33.039
<v Speaker 1>there's something happening again. I'm I'm not the expert on it,

937
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:37.239
<v Speaker 1>but i just know that certain areas, you know, the

938
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:41.119
<v Speaker 1>I call it the Veil Getting Center. I consider it

939
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:43.199
<v Speaker 1>to be sacred land. You know, they're the place that

940
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:46.119
<v Speaker 1>I worked out in Colorado. The tale was, is that

941
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the top springs that you would have even warning tribes

942
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:52.679
<v Speaker 1>that would come to this location to heal, but they

943
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:54.920
<v Speaker 1>would put down all their beef, if you will, before

944
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:58.559
<v Speaker 1>they came because they understood that area. They did not war,

945
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and it was you know, it was a spiritual place.

946
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm a firm believer that things of a paranormal

947
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:11.039
<v Speaker 2>or unexplainable nature can occur pretty much anywhere. With that

948
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:14.559
<v Speaker 2>being said, there are definitely some areas, and I've talked

949
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:18.880
<v Speaker 2>about it before that there just seems to be areas

950
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:21.960
<v Speaker 2>where it's like people experience all sorts of strange things.

951
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.480
<v Speaker 2>There's just always weird things going on there. And I

952
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:28.880
<v Speaker 2>think that's kind of like what we're talking about now,

953
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:33.599
<v Speaker 2>is some of those places and then if you combine

954
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:36.079
<v Speaker 2>some of those places with some of the right people,

955
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:39.400
<v Speaker 2>amazing and extraordinary things can happen.

956
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:42.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they really can.

957
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:47.760
<v Speaker 2>How did this whole thing get started for you? I

958
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:51.000
<v Speaker 2>know you said that you had an incident at a

959
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:54.239
<v Speaker 2>very early age. For I think you said, how did

960
00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:57.000
<v Speaker 2>all this journey sort of begin for you and sort

961
00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:57.679
<v Speaker 2>of manifest?

962
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I'd like to say like I was

963
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:06.119
<v Speaker 1>completely turned on to it all as a child, but

964
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:09.039
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I knew that there was a lot of

965
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:12.360
<v Speaker 1>things going on, but I didn't have a whole lot

966
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.119
<v Speaker 1>of I didn't have the Internet. Of course, that's can

967
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:16.920
<v Speaker 1>be a good thing too. I didn't have the Internet

968
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:20.639
<v Speaker 1>to seed me right because my background behavioral psychology. I

969
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:25.320
<v Speaker 1>understand that you know that that that science itself a

970
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:27.639
<v Speaker 1>lot of times is just used against us in media

971
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:33.159
<v Speaker 1>and other places. But at any rate, I didn't have,

972
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:36.480
<v Speaker 1>like the the early like the the weird aunt or

973
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the weird uncle to sit there and put that stuff

974
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:43.039
<v Speaker 1>in my head of the paranormal and the supernatural. And

975
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of times today a lot again,

976
00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times I think with people experience for

977
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:50.440
<v Speaker 1>other people's stories, you know, them fault is their own.

978
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:54.400
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know my first experience, at least with

979
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the supernatural or a lot of people have different names.

980
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:02.719
<v Speaker 1>What I like to just I call it a black astral.

981
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Somebody had given me sort of a a list of

982
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:08.440
<v Speaker 1>how they categorize some of these beings, and you know,

983
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I roughly agreed with the list, so I thought, yeah,

984
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:13.119
<v Speaker 1>I like that name black astral. Well, what is a

985
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:17.039
<v Speaker 1>black astral? Well, in general, a black astrol's basically just

986
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:21.400
<v Speaker 1>a it's a powat shadow. But look clarified, that does

987
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.320
<v Speaker 1>not come off the wall. So if it comes off

988
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:27.599
<v Speaker 1>a wall and starts moving around the room, that's something else.

989
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:30.039
<v Speaker 1>It's not a black astrol. It starts coming off the

990
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:32.519
<v Speaker 1>wall moving around the room. And that goes to, like

991
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:34.719
<v Speaker 1>to me, at another level of if you will to

992
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:38.599
<v Speaker 1>the darker side of the etheric got the next next league.

993
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:42.199
<v Speaker 1>So black astral as I've always described this sort of

994
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:45.280
<v Speaker 1>bush league, and I don't tell people to go messing

995
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:48.199
<v Speaker 1>with them, but yeah, you would start to understand them.

996
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:51.760
<v Speaker 1>You can even do things like return the Black askl

997
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:54.679
<v Speaker 1>the thunder if somebody sent you something of that nature.

998
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:58.760
<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you that this story so around about

999
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:00.840
<v Speaker 1>four and I was in a neighbor towels and it

1000
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:05.760
<v Speaker 1>was about noon and I was being babysat, and you know,

1001
00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I can remember there was a bunk bed in that room,

1002
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:12.280
<v Speaker 1>and you know there was there was plenty of light

1003
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:14.239
<v Speaker 1>in the room. You know, it's new, and even though

1004
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the curtains were drawn, but there's no reason to be

1005
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:20.480
<v Speaker 1>a solid black shadow on the wall. But as I'm

1006
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:24.519
<v Speaker 1>laying there kind of tossing and turning, you know, I'm

1007
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:29.320
<v Speaker 1>sure trying to avoid nap time on the floorboard, it

1008
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:33.840
<v Speaker 1>starts to fall from the floor. So basically it's kind

1009
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:35.960
<v Speaker 1>of like you can start to see the legs form,

1010
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.199
<v Speaker 1>and again it's just a shadow on the wall, but

1011
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:43.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's solid black shadow, and it's got

1012
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:45.719
<v Speaker 1>legs and gets to the point where you can see

1013
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:48.519
<v Speaker 1>it's got you know, hips, and it goes up. It's

1014
00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:51.599
<v Speaker 1>got a chest and it's headled all the way to

1015
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:54.119
<v Speaker 1>the top of the ceiling. So I don't know, maybe

1016
00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:57.960
<v Speaker 1>eight foot pall at least projected on the wall, and

1017
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:01.039
<v Speaker 1>it gets to the point where where I can see

1018
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:05.280
<v Speaker 1>the head and then it's got two horns. Well, I

1019
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:07.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know, somewhere in between me seeing it start on

1020
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:10.800
<v Speaker 1>the floor, and then about halfway formed, I think, as

1021
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:13.159
<v Speaker 1>a little kid, I had already figured like, this thing's

1022
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:16.880
<v Speaker 1>not here to sing Neil lullaby, you know, like there

1023
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:19.079
<v Speaker 1>was even an I had enough, I think to sermon

1024
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:22.440
<v Speaker 1>as a child to be like, oh, like this isn't good. Yeah.

1025
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:27.199
<v Speaker 1>And so it gets to to the point where I

1026
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:29.159
<v Speaker 1>can see the arms, I can see the chests, I

1027
00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:30.880
<v Speaker 1>can see the legs, I can see the head. I

1028
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>can see it it's got two horns on the head.

1029
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:35.519
<v Speaker 1>Then even that it kind of starts to do this

1030
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:40.519
<v Speaker 1>like little shinny like kind of moving back and forth

1031
00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:44.199
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, you know. And at the time I

1032
00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:49.000
<v Speaker 1>know one prayer and so and I think it's interesting that,

1033
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:50.800
<v Speaker 1>you know. I don't run out of the room, I

1034
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:53.719
<v Speaker 1>don't pee myself, I don't throw my head underneath the covers.

1035
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:57.760
<v Speaker 1>But what I did was decide to repeat the prayer. Now,

1036
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:00.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure you heard it. It's I've looked

1037
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:03.000
<v Speaker 1>it up. It's probably one of the number one said

1038
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you children's prayer. Now I lay me down to sleep,

1039
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:08.320
<v Speaker 1>but pray the Lord might fill to keeping it. I

1040
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:11.800
<v Speaker 1>die before you probably bet it before you probably couldn't.

1041
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Have said it under the same similar circumstances.

1042
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Huh, well, guess what this thing, Matt that took thirty

1043
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:22.920
<v Speaker 1>seconds to fall on? Right roughly, I would say, and

1044
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:25.800
<v Speaker 1>then kind of start doing this little shimmy. Dam All

1045
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:28.360
<v Speaker 1>of I know is I bet it the prayer. But

1046
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the first time I got to the word Lord, oh

1047
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that penguin, damn, it's just like where the hell it

1048
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>came from. That's where it went back to an incidant.

1049
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:43.880
<v Speaker 1>And so even as a child, though, I still pondered

1050
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.320
<v Speaker 1>like bigger things. I was always laying in bed at

1051
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:50.360
<v Speaker 1>night wondering where I was in the universe, Why was here?

1052
00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:53.000
<v Speaker 1>What my bigger purpose was? Who is Jesus? Who is

1053
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:55.800
<v Speaker 1>this Holy Spirit? Who's the pirate? Right? Done? The Holy Spirit?

1054
00:57:57.320 --> 00:57:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Not of that as a four year old really made

1055
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:01.119
<v Speaker 1>all that much then me and I had think Jesus

1056
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times in my third eye, so that's

1057
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:06.159
<v Speaker 1>really all I needed to know. I thought that what

1058
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:09.519
<v Speaker 1>I thought was really interesting was this thing responded to

1059
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:12.119
<v Speaker 1>the word Lord. I got that, do you know what

1060
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean?

1061
00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1062
00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:16.639
<v Speaker 1>Now, I didn't know why it did, but I would say,

1063
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:20.920
<v Speaker 1>like all the frequency or vibration, right everything. We'd say,

1064
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.559
<v Speaker 1>that's all it is, our thoughts, that's all they are. Well,

1065
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I would say that frequency, that vibration of that word,

1066
00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:27.719
<v Speaker 1>that being did not want.

1067
00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Anything to do with. You experienced that at the age

1068
00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:37.079
<v Speaker 2>of four. What motivated you as an adult to go

1069
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:40.840
<v Speaker 2>down this path? Because I mean, it's not an easy

1070
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:41.480
<v Speaker 2>thing to do.

1071
00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:49.400
<v Speaker 1>No, it's it's not and you'll lose friends over it.

1072
00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:53.639
<v Speaker 1>But you know, somebody already told me that, you know

1073
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:56.480
<v Speaker 1>if they hated me, though, I hate you too, And

1074
00:58:56.920 --> 00:58:58.719
<v Speaker 1>it's right there in your Bible. Once you pick up

1075
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:00.920
<v Speaker 1>that cross, Somebody's asked me before as then thereser, how

1076
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:03.320
<v Speaker 1>do I know if I picked up my cross and

1077
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>all right, I have all your friends and family rejected

1078
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you yet now they probably haven't done it, But yeah,

1079
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:13.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't know it. There was just that

1080
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:17.159
<v Speaker 1>early drawl that was really beyond kind of normal, I

1081
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:20.119
<v Speaker 1>think for a child to sit there and and have

1082
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:28.719
<v Speaker 1>these these thoughts and these communications, and you know, there's

1083
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:30.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of different stories that I haven't you know,

1084
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:33.719
<v Speaker 1>conversations that I've had with christ and I can still

1085
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:36.360
<v Speaker 1>remember as a child. But tell you, when I was

1086
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:42.239
<v Speaker 1>a little kid, I was having a reoccurring dream basically

1087
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:46.079
<v Speaker 1>being brutally murdered, over tortured and murdered over the course

1088
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>of about a week. And I would come out of

1089
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.119
<v Speaker 1>this dream and again there's nobody that tell me, Hey, dad,

1090
00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:55.159
<v Speaker 1>there's things called paft live. You know, I liven't taunt

1091
00:59:56.480 --> 01:00:00.360
<v Speaker 1>non denominational Christian church, right. But I go to my

1092
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:02.840
<v Speaker 1>mom and I'd say, listen, mom, I've seen one of

1093
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:04.400
<v Speaker 1>my past lives and I was murdered here and I

1094
01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:06.239
<v Speaker 1>have a good idea who I was, what I was

1095
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:09.159
<v Speaker 1>doing while I was killed. And my mom would just

1096
01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:13.000
<v Speaker 1>look like I'm sure, just like look, who's kid are you?

1097
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:16.760
<v Speaker 1>You know? And and should say Devin with kirts And

1098
01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:19.079
<v Speaker 1>we're not Buddhists, like we do not believe in path lives.

1099
01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 1>And my mom could tell whatever she wanted, like I'd

1100
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:23.960
<v Speaker 1>walk away and be like all right, woman and say

1101
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:26.199
<v Speaker 1>what you want. But you know, I know what I've seen.

1102
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:28.440
<v Speaker 1>But I was just like a knowing, like I don't

1103
01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:32.639
<v Speaker 1>know how I know that I know there was I

1104
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:37.519
<v Speaker 1>was get in college and city I I was going

1105
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:42.199
<v Speaker 1>somewhere with a girlfriend in my car and with having

1106
01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:46.000
<v Speaker 1>some experiences. They were sitting there with her realizing that, oh,

1107
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:48.280
<v Speaker 1>these different faces. I mean, it was kind of like

1108
01:00:48.360 --> 01:00:50.159
<v Speaker 1>all coming to me. Not that I wasn't seeing a

1109
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:51.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of this us as a child, and I knew

1110
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:56.159
<v Speaker 1>I was seeing people's path lives as a child, but

1111
01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:58.679
<v Speaker 1>I was sitting there one day in the car, and

1112
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:01.159
<v Speaker 1>it was like she was showing me like two different

1113
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:03.480
<v Speaker 1>let's just say, I know, with her sitting there, but

1114
01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the face that I would see on top of hers

1115
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:08.480
<v Speaker 1>was like a faith that I recognized and I knew.

1116
01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:10.239
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know how I knew it, and I and

1117
01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I loved that person too, but I knew that like

1118
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:15.719
<v Speaker 1>it was her, but it wasn't her. Now, I don't

1119
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:18.559
<v Speaker 1>know if that makes sense. I call it a cosmic basis,

1120
01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's a whole nother it's a whole other story

1121
01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and topic, and I won't bore you with it now.

1122
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:28.320
<v Speaker 1>But she was showing me like a couple different I

1123
01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:31.320
<v Speaker 1>would say path life that, And she wasn't doing it intentionally,

1124
01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:33.559
<v Speaker 1>but I was seeing these two different path lives that

1125
01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:37.400
<v Speaker 1>we had already been together with and had been together in.

1126
01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:42.400
<v Speaker 1>And around that same time that she was doing this,

1127
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:47.360
<v Speaker 1>she was having an internal conversation with herself. I didn't

1128
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:50.280
<v Speaker 1>realize she was having an internal conversation with her THELP

1129
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I heard it plain as day, and I was answering

1130
01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:57.480
<v Speaker 1>this conversation she was having in her mind with me

1131
01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:02.280
<v Speaker 1>that I was answering it out loud. And finally, at

1132
01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a certain point, as I'm driving down the road, he

1133
01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:08.159
<v Speaker 1>just like looks at me like I'm the craziest son

1134
01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:10.800
<v Speaker 1>of bit she's ever met, and she said, what the

1135
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:12.239
<v Speaker 1>hell are you doing? I'm like, what do you mean,

1136
01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm answering your question? And it said, yeah, we're going

1137
01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:17.320
<v Speaker 1>to your mom. Putbay, dude, this this is this. You

1138
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:20.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't hear me? He said, no, I heard you that.

1139
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:23.679
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say anything. I thought it, and it like

1140
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:27.119
<v Speaker 1>freaked her out, do you know what I mean? And

1141
01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:29.280
<v Speaker 1>it freaked her out to the point I don't you know,

1142
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:33.719
<v Speaker 1>who knows what you caught. But at that point in time,

1143
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait a minute. The church doesn't appreciate this,

1144
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:43.400
<v Speaker 1>my family doesn't appreciate it, and now my girlfriend thinks

1145
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:45.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm crazy when I experience it, do you know what

1146
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean?

1147
01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1148
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:49.400
<v Speaker 1>So I just sort of, like the best I can

1149
01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:51.480
<v Speaker 1>describe it, I sort of packed it away. I think

1150
01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:55.119
<v Speaker 1>I just sort of shut it all down, and I

1151
01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:58.079
<v Speaker 1>don't think you can completely turn it off. But I

1152
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:00.280
<v Speaker 1>mean I did the best that I could. You say,

1153
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what, it does not serve me. Yeah, it

1154
01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:07.719
<v Speaker 1>really doesn't. And it's fun to play it and you know,

1155
01:03:09.239 --> 01:03:12.480
<v Speaker 1>but nobody likes it and you just need to get

1156
01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:17.519
<v Speaker 1>me in trouble. So it wasn't until about twenty sixteen. Really,

1157
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't say that I didn't have you know,

1158
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I was fourteen. I thought you up. Well, I've seen

1159
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:26.480
<v Speaker 1>different ghosts, so I can't say like it the gift

1160
01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:29.519
<v Speaker 1>was completely turned off. But it wasn't until an accident

1161
01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:34.599
<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen that I don't know, you know, it's

1162
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:39.119
<v Speaker 1>just it was. It was well, maybe Matt also be

1163
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:42.679
<v Speaker 1>in pent around that same time at twenty sixteen. Yeah,

1164
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, I know I've rendered to you before God,

1165
01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:48.400
<v Speaker 1>but and I've given you, you know, a lot of

1166
01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:50.440
<v Speaker 1>different stuff. I quit the job I was doing. I

1167
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:53.480
<v Speaker 1>started this job, you know, to try not just to

1168
01:03:53.559 --> 01:03:56.760
<v Speaker 1>serve myself but help other people. I was actually importing

1169
01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:00.440
<v Speaker 1>medicinal plants from all the world and telling him in

1170
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:04.320
<v Speaker 1>one place. But you know, I want to give it

1171
01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:07.639
<v Speaker 1>all to you, right and wherever you say go, I'll go.

1172
01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:14.119
<v Speaker 1>And that's really almost like like like the Creator was

1173
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:17.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, Okay, you're back on board for the plan, right,

1174
01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the reason you really come here. So like I like

1175
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:23.679
<v Speaker 1>I say, like I was almost like a five year

1176
01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:28.559
<v Speaker 1>like almost like boot camp. Like almost every place I

1177
01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:34.159
<v Speaker 1>went there had to be a lesson and experience that

1178
01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I had to you know, experience to get sort of

1179
01:04:37.079 --> 01:04:39.679
<v Speaker 1>back on what I believe is. I can't say that

1180
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm critifically back in the Creator's plan for myself, if

1181
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:45.119
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense, but I'm a hell of a lot

1182
01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:49.440
<v Speaker 1>closer than I was ten years ago, twenty years ago,

1183
01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and so there was something to me leaning into you're

1184
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:56.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of if you will, to the will of God,

1185
01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:01.880
<v Speaker 1>right whatever whatever you want to call that. Where as

1186
01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:06.960
<v Speaker 1>good as I really did, that like the world and

1187
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the universe really just began to open up, and in

1188
01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:15.159
<v Speaker 1>some ways some ways, Matt, it was almost like the

1189
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:18.519
<v Speaker 1>the different I mean, I can call them adventures because

1190
01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:20.639
<v Speaker 1>there's so many different towns that I was called to

1191
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:23.360
<v Speaker 1>and so many different opportunities that I just jumped on

1192
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:25.920
<v Speaker 1>because I knew that there would be a lesson, there

1193
01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:28.599
<v Speaker 1>would be an experience there for me. But them was

1194
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:32.440
<v Speaker 1>like in every different town and different every different experience

1195
01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:35.679
<v Speaker 1>and every different place that I lived, like the Creator

1196
01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:38.400
<v Speaker 1>was just like blowing my mind like almost like these

1197
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:41.519
<v Speaker 1>little nuggets, do you know what I mean? Yeah, like

1198
01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:43.679
<v Speaker 1>little like a little like a little piece of the

1199
01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:46.199
<v Speaker 1>candy along my way that like, oh you know you're

1200
01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:48.159
<v Speaker 1>you're coming along the way at well here. You know,

1201
01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:51.199
<v Speaker 1>you think your thoughts you understood that creation before, let

1202
01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:53.920
<v Speaker 1>me blow your mind again. Oh you might you thought

1203
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:55.599
<v Speaker 1>your mind is blown before, let me do it again.

1204
01:05:56.159 --> 01:05:56.320
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1205
01:05:56.840 --> 01:06:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Do you think your experience with the Bigfoot fan was

1206
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:00.679
<v Speaker 2>part of that?

1207
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, because when you have that experience, it really

1208
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:13.880
<v Speaker 1>just like I said it, you have to consider a

1209
01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:18.960
<v Speaker 1>completely new paradigm. I just don't know how you can't.

1210
01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:24.400
<v Speaker 1>And and you know that I think allowed to. You know,

1211
01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:28.199
<v Speaker 1>there's that there's that old staying that the Native Americans,

1212
01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, who knows. I don't know how true it is,

1213
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:34.000
<v Speaker 1>but I've heard it many times, and I do think

1214
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:37.400
<v Speaker 1>there's some truth to it. To a when, if you will,

1215
01:06:37.480 --> 01:06:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Christopher Columbus right when you first traveled over here on

1216
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the Nina, the Mina Santa Maria or whatever they were,

1217
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:48.880
<v Speaker 1>right that that there really only the elders could see

1218
01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:51.039
<v Speaker 1>the ships at first, and you might say, well, what

1219
01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:53.000
<v Speaker 1>do you mean. You know, it's a big old ocean.

1220
01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:56.039
<v Speaker 1>You'd see this boxed sail in this wooden ship, you know,

1221
01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:59.719
<v Speaker 1>but maybe there's some truth to that, and that that

1222
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:04.119
<v Speaker 1>full of something to even register in your mind. You

1223
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:06.639
<v Speaker 1>have to know it's possible, right, you have to know

1224
01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:11.519
<v Speaker 1>it's there. So I think even like the Bigfoot could

1225
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:15.480
<v Speaker 1>have just simply been again being able to just rip

1226
01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:21.639
<v Speaker 1>open that paradigm to where I was able to just say, oh, well,

1227
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:25.360
<v Speaker 1>if that's possible and that's real, what else is you know,

1228
01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and just be open to allowing, if you will, the

1229
01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:31.920
<v Speaker 1>universe to chill me. You know, it's it's splendor, it's

1230
01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:34.679
<v Speaker 1>glory and all that's you know, a little quirkiness, but

1231
01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:35.079
<v Speaker 1>it has.

1232
01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:40.840
<v Speaker 2>It's just interesting to me that in the situations where

1233
01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:45.920
<v Speaker 2>you had the interactions with the Bigfoot, I mean, originally

1234
01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:50.880
<v Speaker 2>the events taking place at that property, where one thing,

1235
01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:55.119
<v Speaker 2>your reason for going there was something else, and then

1236
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot shows up something entirely different than both of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>And then again whenever you went down to Texas, your

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01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:07.079
<v Speaker 2>reason for going down there, the situation that was occurring

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<v Speaker 2>with this you know, dark negative thing attached to you

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and then boom the Bigfoot shows up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I've never seen a past life as a bigfoot,

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01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:20.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, my own, but I've had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>people said, Devin, you probably have a past life is

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01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:23.680
<v Speaker 1>a Bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 2>You never know?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I think I think it's possible. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's other things that happened. I mean, I saw my

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01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:38.600
<v Speaker 1>first UFO sitting on the ground too the third night

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01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:42.199
<v Speaker 1>I was out there. Oh wow, but that's another store. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever get a chance, Matt, and again I

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01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:48.039
<v Speaker 1>am not pushing eat Eddie, and I'll be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you can edit this out, this pot out

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<v Speaker 1>if you went, I'm more than happy if you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually did volunteer there, So I went out there

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<v Speaker 1>in the three days and just you know, have my

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01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:02.880
<v Speaker 1>mind just is literally like the top of my skull

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<v Speaker 1>is removed. You had the opportunity, it just presented itself

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01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:13.640
<v Speaker 1>to volunteer there that next year until actually I went

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01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:17.720
<v Speaker 1>from share cropping out in Cameron, Texas. You got the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity and just be lined it out there and was

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<v Speaker 1>out there for about six months. But I'll tell you what, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to go out there volunteer there. I

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<v Speaker 1>probably got more in that first three days. Yeah, I

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01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:32.960
<v Speaker 1>got more in that first three days than I got

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<v Speaker 1>the six months of this being there as a volunteer.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever experienced any the CE five stuff with UFOs?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, up, good and bad there, good and bad there.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to say that, but it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my concern with all of this stuff that we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about, the kind of things that you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the spiritual element of these phenomenon. There are

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01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:07.880
<v Speaker 2>people who aren't in the right place knowledge wise, experience wise,

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<v Speaker 2>spiritually whatever, that hear these sorts of things, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they go out somewhere in the woods or someplace where

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<v Speaker 2>they think there's been a lot of sightings or where

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01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot's supposed to be, or where they want to have

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01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:22.720
<v Speaker 2>a UFO encounter or whatever, and they try to open

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01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:25.920
<v Speaker 2>the door to have an experience because everybody just wants

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01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:28.479
<v Speaker 2>to see one. Everybody wants to have this experience so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>And then whenever something shows up, they assume, oh, well,

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01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:37.079
<v Speaker 2>it looks like what I wanted it to be. That's

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01:10:37.119 --> 01:10:40.319
<v Speaker 2>what it is. And I think that can be very dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I think intent it's so much of

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<v Speaker 1>what we do. And so if as a shaman, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going someplace and I want to have an experience,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty specific when I then I do my own meditation,

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01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:06.119
<v Speaker 1>and you know, say, hey, you know, guys, I haven't

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01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:08.520
<v Speaker 1>gone out back and sat back and watched because I

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01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:11.520
<v Speaker 1>meant out here, I don't understand how people get bored.

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<v Speaker 1>All you got to do is look up at night

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01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and see all the friggin ships we've got out here.

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<v Speaker 1>And on my hand to God, the last night I

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01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:21.039
<v Speaker 1>was out I counted thirty worth it ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there was multiple and streaking across the sky

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01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:29.680
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. But then I realized that, Okay,

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01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:32.680
<v Speaker 1>so I'm seeing so much stuff out here. I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a lot of ships in the US military.

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<v Speaker 1>All these ships out here, I'm saying, cannot be our

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01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:44.239
<v Speaker 1>US military. If we go back and we look throughout time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>even our own Bible. Well, we've got mentioned of the cherry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the fire. I tall a ship one night, Sure

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01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:51.079
<v Speaker 1>it looked like it was on fire, and it was

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01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:54.079
<v Speaker 1>fitting on the ground. It wasn't on fire at any

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01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:59.399
<v Speaker 1>rate in tenth so important, I think. And I'll also

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01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:01.399
<v Speaker 1>say that man, and I'm and I'm not gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>any names. But you brought up the five, so I

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<v Speaker 1>will say this. I do not do it D five

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01:12:09.479 --> 01:12:15.439
<v Speaker 1>protocol and I don't find it necessary. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>won't go out and have contact. Just open your heart,

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01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:23.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, go outside, look up in the sky, ask

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<v Speaker 1>for your star family, preferably and only of benevolent ones

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01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:32.840
<v Speaker 1>because I have had contact with not so nice ones before,

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<v Speaker 1>and say amen, So it is, so it is done,

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01:12:37.119 --> 01:12:39.399
<v Speaker 1>but you know the specific with your intent.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell people where they can find your channel lot oh, well,

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01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:46.199
<v Speaker 2>on Rumble it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I prefer Rumble. It seems like they play a

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01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:51.319
<v Speaker 1>little bit fair game. But you can find me on

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<v Speaker 1>the you on YouTube, but it's face Light and Love,

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01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and I believe in Rumble, it's just Christs Light and Love.

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01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:01.319
<v Speaker 1>And you might have put Light and Love Healing and

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<v Speaker 1>Training Center. You can always find me on Facebook two

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01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:07.520
<v Speaker 1>but I don't go on there as much and visit that,

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01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:09.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's Christ's Light and Love Healing and Training Center

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<v Speaker 1>in Berksville, Kentucky on Facebook and if I we do,

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<v Speaker 1>but web page up and run again. It's christlight onlove

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<v Speaker 1>dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, Devin, thanks for joining me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Matt, I appreciate it. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've had your own encounter with Bigfoot, dog Man

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<v Speaker 2>or something else you can explain, send me an email

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<v Speaker 2>at Bigfoot Crossroads at gmail dot com. Check out the

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01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:34.399
<v Speaker 2>website Bigfoot Crossroads dot com. You can find links to

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<v Speaker 2>social media, past episodes, merchandise, everything you need, all in

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<v Speaker 2>one place. And until next time, remember there's something in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods

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<v Speaker 1>Used
