Speaker 1: My version of Bigfoot is not some big scary beast.
Speaker 1: It's not a scary creature of a highly lightened spiritual being.
Speaker 1: I didn't go looking for a Bigfoot, but on a
Speaker 1: particular trip out to tow Lake, Washington, when when three
Speaker 1: days in twenty seventeen, that's what happened, I would share
Speaker 1: this papping there was just be a capp hap hap hap.
Speaker 1: It went on for probably an hour, so every time
Speaker 1: I just about fall asleep, this tapping would return. So
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I got woke up and I
Speaker 1: had the pee, you know, I opened the door and
Speaker 1: start to do my business and look up again. The
Speaker 1: ego mind kick then and wants to stay like, well,
Speaker 1: what's that a big old cow standing on a pine leg?
Speaker 1: You know, that's not what it was. The best I
Speaker 1: can describe is is it It vanishes now, It doesn't
Speaker 1: just like go poof right and at dawned, but it's
Speaker 1: from the top of the head gears start to almost
Speaker 1: just like de materialize. Yeah. No, it was solid. I
Speaker 1: mean I'm sure in that did. If I would have
Speaker 1: gone up there and poked it, it would been pretty
Speaker 1: It would have had density to it, So yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I know it was solid, but at one point, I
Speaker 1: know it just it just dematerialized. It was not there.
Speaker 2: Now you're in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: I'm like a stone's throw from the Tennessee border, and
Speaker 1: I'm about at south Central that you can get. Lake
Speaker 1: Cumberland is very close to me. And I've got the
Speaker 1: Cumberland River actually in my backyard that you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's one big stassy river, you know. So it goes
Speaker 1: a lot of places. And I was actually drawn out
Speaker 1: to this area from a visit to a friend's place
Speaker 1: probably about seven years back. Really she's got a little yeah,
Speaker 1: she's got a little spot not far for me in
Speaker 1: Russell Springs. So you know, everything out here is a
Speaker 1: half hour away, even if it's you know, five minutes,
Speaker 1: even if it's five miles. But she's about an hour
Speaker 1: from me. But yeah, a really interesting gal. And basically
Speaker 1: her son had you know, I was talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: how I was given a mission if you will, when
Speaker 1: I was you know, decided to pick up my cross,
Speaker 1: you know, and really trying to follow the reason I
Speaker 1: came here and you know, stop serving myself. And a
Speaker 1: friend of mine said, you know you're talking about you know,
Speaker 1: starting these healing centers and you know, I'm getting into
Speaker 1: this weird etheric stuff. She's like, you're gonna meet my mom.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, what's your mom's story? And she
Speaker 1: was like, well, every he said, well, you know, we
Speaker 1: kind of thought mom was crazy for a minute because
Speaker 1: she just kept saying, well, I'm Jesus told me to
Speaker 1: buy a little piece of property outside the city where
Speaker 1: people could just come and you know, heal and relax.
Speaker 1: You know who just you know, kind of had too
Speaker 1: much of the city. I felt like I could dig
Speaker 1: that anybody that got a message from Jesus to go
Speaker 1: do something like that. You know, yeah, I meet your mom.
Speaker 1: I mean I had some really amazing experiences from the
Speaker 1: get go on that property and I'm just you And
Speaker 1: I told she did a real simple Christian lady. But
Speaker 1: I told her it was like Judy, like between du
Speaker 1: and God and Jesus, Like you did a really good job,
Speaker 1: you know, like you pick a really nice spot, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just a really high vibrational spot.
Speaker 1: And of course, you know, you can start to get
Speaker 1: a lot of people's stories around that area and this
Speaker 1: area too, you know. Now, like in Birksville. Everybody's got
Speaker 1: you know, they've got their uf though, and they seem
Speaker 1: to have their big foot short. And then if you
Speaker 1: really kind of yeah, and if you really kind of
Speaker 1: you know, pry into them a little bit, you know,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll give you even a little bit more than
Speaker 1: that sometimes. So, yeah, there seems to be a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff out here in this general area. And I
Speaker 1: think that's why I was drawn to it. You know,
Speaker 1: no mistake. When I came across the property, as soon
Speaker 1: as I put my feet on it, I mean I
Speaker 1: was I felt like I had like electricity flowing through me,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and it was just like, oh, it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, this is the place. And you know,
Speaker 1: I consider it sacred land. And so that's also how
Speaker 1: I how I try to treat it, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I believe that there's just a lot of stuff going
Speaker 1: on here. I think part of my my journey and
Speaker 1: all this bigger picture was to come and if nothing
Speaker 1: else for a little while, to hold this land out
Speaker 1: here and you know, get back in touch with it
Speaker 1: and just you know, have some of the experiences that
Speaker 1: I've had, and as well as to allow other people
Speaker 1: to you know, come out and and you know, when
Speaker 1: they need to get away from the city. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, somebody offered a place like that back in
Speaker 1: about twenty seventeen where kind of my life started unfold
Speaker 1: in ways I had never predicted, and I kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, I just sort of wanted to return that
Speaker 1: and so that kind of was the the journey in
Speaker 1: finding that's about five years ago. You're on a side note. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a minister. I'm not the type of minister
Speaker 1: who wants to beat you up about your your sinful nature.
Speaker 1: Does that makes sense, Matt, Yeah, yeah, I'm the minister
Speaker 1: you call when something goes bumping the night, you know,
Speaker 1: or when you really want to talk about you know,
Speaker 1: maybe not necessarily your sinful nature, but you know what
Speaker 1: you're doing here and what your purpose. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I also consider myself a shaman. That really what is that? Well,
Speaker 1: on the core level, I mean there's many different levels
Speaker 1: to shamanism. You know, some of it you can only
Speaker 1: be born into that on a basic core level, a
Speaker 1: shaman and somebody knows how to work with to help
Speaker 1: those heal, and so that's just kind of a core level.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I dig more of the ghostbusting
Speaker 1: side of shaman and the healing side. I've seen higher
Speaker 1: spiritual healings, but I also I dig bring in the
Speaker 1: two sides together. So I also work with frequency medicines
Speaker 1: out here. So a lot of people have heard about
Speaker 1: rife frequencies, at least at this point. Have you heard
Speaker 1: of anything about mister Royal Rife.
Speaker 2: A little bit, not much. I'm certainly not knowledgeable on
Speaker 2: that stuff, but it's something that has crossed my desk before, you.
Speaker 1: Know, thirty thousand foot over, do you, Matt. He was
Speaker 1: just showing us back in like the late the forties
Speaker 1: and fifties, is that basically a disease has a frequency
Speaker 1: and vibration. He had created a machine that essentially creates
Speaker 1: a frequency of vibration that can counter that. So he
Speaker 1: was finding that he could take stage four cancer folks. Now,
Speaker 1: stage four you know the hospital, so go home and
Speaker 1: you know, get your stuff together and expect to die
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. But he was actually taking them,
Speaker 1: reversing them, and they were living, you know, then their
Speaker 1: normal lives. We're just something as simple as frequencies. So
Speaker 1: I really that past I don't know five years really
Speaker 1: really dug and dove into that. But you know, is
Speaker 1: that who I am? No? I mean, I was actually
Speaker 1: a behavioral therapist. I was a child and adult behavioral
Speaker 1: therapist for many years. I've got, you know, stories in
Speaker 1: that field, gift like stuff, you know, you can't make
Speaker 1: the stuff up type things, you know, stuff that was
Speaker 1: never in my text. But then I got to see
Speaker 1: and witness. But you know, even even that part of
Speaker 1: my life, I find it interesting that it's almost if
Speaker 1: I step back and I and I observed my life,
Speaker 1: like do you want to call it God Creator? The
Speaker 1: higher Stelf? I mean, yeah, that there has been that
Speaker 1: aspect in my entire life, almost sort of like guiding
Speaker 1: the whole ship. And I almost like to just sit back,
Speaker 1: almost like in the third person, throw it away and
Speaker 1: just sort of observe it all. My story on I
Speaker 1: don't you know anywhere you want to go? Man? I
Speaker 1: think maybe, I mean, I know your audience was Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: I mean I do too, And but I'll be honest, Matt,
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of people. I think I did
Speaker 1: my first interview maybe three years ago, and of course
Speaker 1: then you've kind of seen I kind of started my
Speaker 1: own little thing a little short, and I'll do an
Speaker 1: interview here and there. But I find like people really
Speaker 1: like to heavily, heavily edit sometimes my story. I hope
Speaker 1: that's not the case here tonight. But my version of
Speaker 1: Bigfoot is not some big gary beast. It's actually quite
Speaker 1: the opposite that I just you know, I share it
Speaker 1: because he can't make fit stuff up, and it's really
Speaker 1: had a huge impact of my life. But I don't
Speaker 1: think Matt that, at least the experience that I had,
Speaker 1: I don't think it lined up, if you will, in
Speaker 1: the creator's bigger plan without me being on kind of
Speaker 1: my own spiritual path. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, And so.
Speaker 1: I have sense. Now. I did not know this when
Speaker 1: I ran into that first family of Bigfoot. I did
Speaker 1: not know that there was a whole Buddhist thing. I've
Speaker 1: had Buddhists on my show and I talk a few
Speaker 1: different boosts about this, and I've got a great Buddhist friend,
Speaker 1: But I didn't know that there. Do you know there's
Speaker 1: a whole tale of Buddha and in enlightening a group
Speaker 1: of sasquatch or YETI there's this whole tale now now
Speaker 1: I guess I look at it now and I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like, you know, you're sure it wasn't a YETI
Speaker 1: that maybe enlightened the Buddha. I don't think. Kind of
Speaker 1: my experience is that, like, it's not a scary creature
Speaker 1: of a highly enlightened spiritual being. But I didn't know
Speaker 1: that on my journey. And one of the other things
Speaker 1: to Buddhist day is to see the yetti, if you will,
Speaker 1: you almost have to reach a certain level of consciousness,
Speaker 1: right he almost kind of you know, got to pull
Speaker 1: yourself out of that ego mindset. And and then they
Speaker 1: say that you know the yetti will appear, Well, I'd
Speaker 1: probably agree, because I've told this story a few times.
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, I did not find Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Bigfoot found me. I didn't go looking for Bigfoot. Yes,
Speaker 1: I knew I was going to a place that multiple
Speaker 1: people report being running into having interactions with, but that
Speaker 1: wasn't my plan. But on a particular trip out to
Speaker 1: Child Lake, Washington, when when three days in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: that's what happened.
Speaker 2: Why were you going out there? Was it to try
Speaker 2: and have an interaction?
Speaker 1: No? Actually, I had had an accident like twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: a pretty nasty skiing accident. Now, usually when you break
Speaker 1: a hip and put you back together until you start
Speaker 1: walking the next day. But where I broke my effects
Speaker 1: that it yeah, you'll be in bed six to eight months.
Speaker 1: But during that downtime, I don't know, I had a
Speaker 1: lot of time to just sit and think and focus
Speaker 1: and like kind of like you know what life about
Speaker 1: type then you know almost and I don't know, for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, YouTube was spitting out this guy in his
Speaker 1: place out in trout Lake, Washington. It's called ec ETI
Speaker 1: or set he like contact or extraterrestrial intelligence. I didn't
Speaker 1: even really go out there for the UFOs that they
Speaker 1: loved to sit out there and watch at night. That's
Speaker 1: not I went out there because basically it was described
Speaker 1: to me that places like this are bore Texas and
Speaker 1: that when you go and take your intent, whether good
Speaker 1: or bad, the intent is magnified. And so I thought, well,
Speaker 1: my intent is I want to go out and have
Speaker 1: that connection I had with Christ like I had when
Speaker 1: I was a child. And all I can tell you
Speaker 1: is that nobody taught me how to meditate as a child.
Speaker 1: That you know, there was multiple time that I would
Speaker 1: see Christ and what you could say, like a calm
Speaker 1: state laying in bed and you would have to as
Speaker 1: a conversations. Was introduced to a Buddha be a Christ.
Speaker 1: When I was child, Buddha had a conversation with me
Speaker 1: one day and but at any rate, I digress. So
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to get that connection back. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I felt like it had you know, just
Speaker 1: the au fairic connection ability to communicate just wasn't as strong.
Speaker 1: And so that's what I had set out really to do.
Speaker 1: It's just okay, I'm gonna go out three days to
Speaker 1: this little conference, you know, UFO conference, but I'm going
Speaker 1: to really bring the intent of bringing that connection back.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, brother, Like I got that
Speaker 1: and then some I mean, you want to see a
Speaker 1: grown man try within twelve hours of being on a property. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was just really interesting that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely got that connection back. And it was reminded
Speaker 1: even to the whole thing that if you will fight,
Speaker 1: never stepped away before it stepped away from the tables.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Yeah, and again and again love to
Speaker 1: give to you corny on that stuff because I know
Speaker 1: a lot of times the audience would get turned off
Speaker 1: as soon as you mentioned anything like that. But again
Speaker 1: that's why I went out ful. Well I got that
Speaker 1: and then some. But it was the first night. So
Speaker 1: it's just like from the get go, there's a few
Speaker 1: different things you can stand. You can tenant, they had
Speaker 1: a few earths. Now they made put it some other
Speaker 1: things now. But I was just staying in a little
Speaker 1: simple earth and you know, there's no power. That's little fireplace,
Speaker 1: and so I mean it was it got chili out there.
Speaker 1: It was raining pretty much the whole time. Well I
Speaker 1: had started a fireplace or the I started the little
Speaker 1: fire box the first time I was been there, you know,
Speaker 1: a little stove. You know, it got going, and you
Speaker 1: know I had I had left the earth and you know,
Speaker 1: got out I think for a little bit of the
Speaker 1: sky watch activities or whatever that first night was or
Speaker 1: I was you know, really just kind of winding down
Speaker 1: from you know, the plane ride out there and then
Speaker 1: get a rental car and then you know, driving to
Speaker 1: the place there in trout Lake. But it was, uh,
Speaker 1: it was really interesting because it was again it was
Speaker 1: like from the get go, I get back the earth
Speaker 1: and I'm like, holy cow, you're at one hundred and
Speaker 1: ten or one hundred and twenty degree than here. So
Speaker 1: you know, I'm opening the windows then laying down and
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you know, you know, kind of get
Speaker 1: a little shut eye and get ready for the next
Speaker 1: day's activities. But I know, it was just a few minutes,
Speaker 1: and once I kind of started to just doze, I
Speaker 1: would share this happening and it it was almost impossible
Speaker 1: to tell where it was coming from. It sort of
Speaker 1: sounded like it was coming from the top of the
Speaker 1: third It was should just be a cap hap hap
Speaker 1: hap hap hap cap And it went on for probably
Speaker 1: an hour. So every time I just about fall to sleep,
Speaker 1: this tapping would return. I'd wake up to the tapping.
Speaker 1: I'd sit there and think, oh, that's interesting, and then
Speaker 1: the tapping go away. I'd go back to sleep, that
Speaker 1: tapping would come back. I'd wake back up and matther
Speaker 1: was something about the tapping it was, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it felt like it was more than tapping, do you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it felt like there was a It felt like there
Speaker 1: was a consciousness on the end of that. So, you know,
Speaker 1: on one thought of my mind, I wanted to sit
Speaker 1: there and the you know, I think the ego mind
Speaker 1: who wants to go explain everything, and you know, the
Speaker 1: ego singer going, well, the irt that expanded right because
Speaker 1: it would heat it up right, but then it didn't
Speaker 1: make sun. You know, It's like, yeah, but why does
Speaker 1: it decide to only cap or heat up or expand
Speaker 1: when I'm starting to go back to sleep, you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: so I don't again, that maybe went on for an hour.
Speaker 1: I think I woke up. It might have been maybe
Speaker 1: two or three. Little bit I'm not old, but let's
Speaker 1: just say like I don't have the best bladder, and
Speaker 1: so it's like, you know, I got woke up and
Speaker 1: I had to pee, and you know, I'm thinking I'm
Speaker 1: not running across this this you know, however far it
Speaker 1: was quite a waste to the bathroom really, and so
Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know what, it's two in the morning.
Speaker 1: I just I'm when I opened my door, it was
Speaker 1: like it's like this little apple orchard in front of
Speaker 1: the earth. I don't know, it might be fifteen trees there,
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm just gonna relieve myself out the door
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, you know, I opened the door
Speaker 1: and then start to do my business and look up,
Speaker 1: and I mean again, the ego mine kicks in and
Speaker 1: wants to stay like, well, what's that a big old
Speaker 1: cow standing on its hind legs? You know, that's not
Speaker 1: what it was. And the best I can describe it
Speaker 1: is is that it vanishes. Now it doesn't just like
Speaker 1: go poof, right and it's dawn, but it's from the
Speaker 1: top of the head. You just starts to almost just
Speaker 1: like de materialized, sort of like I'll beat me up, gotty.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I think you know that they're
Speaker 1: getting Bean the bull of the ship. That's not what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but like I saw the thing de materialized,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, like you know, I don't even
Speaker 1: know if I was paying attention what I was doing
Speaker 1: at that point. But it finally went from you could
Speaker 1: see it all the way from the head and it's
Speaker 1: a little bit right. There's like a washroom sort of
Speaker 1: beat behind the orchard where they've got a washer and dryer,
Speaker 1: and there's almost there's a light on there like twenty
Speaker 1: four to seven, so there was a little bit of
Speaker 1: back light illumination. I wish the illumination would have been
Speaker 1: from the front, but right you could.
Speaker 2: See the silhouette, so it was backlit, so you could
Speaker 2: tell at first that it was definitely solid.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No, it was solid. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure in that instant if I would go up
Speaker 1: there and poke it, I you know, it had been furry,
Speaker 1: it would have had density to it. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: think I after seeing that, and I've seen it more
Speaker 1: than once now, so yeah, I know, I know it
Speaker 1: was solid, but I at one point I know it
Speaker 1: just it just dematerialized. It was not there. And again
Speaker 1: it happened from the from the head to the like
Speaker 1: to the toes. No, I did not see it all
Speaker 1: the way down to the toes, but let's yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought maybe down to the waist where it finally was
Speaker 1: just you know, it was gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now I get up the next and I go back
Speaker 1: in the in in my arg I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: my head is spinning. My paradigm of of I guess
Speaker 1: what reality is has just been like, yeah, I've got
Speaker 1: to I've gotta I've kind of like take my brain out,
Speaker 1: readjust it and put it back in because I've got
Speaker 1: some new information here. I didn't have it Now, I
Speaker 1: was interested as a child in Bigfoot, in the paranormal,
Speaker 1: and all of that stopped. Uh u f O. The
Speaker 1: only thing I really liked. You know. I'm fifty three
Speaker 1: or fifty two right now, something like that. But when
Speaker 1: I was a child, you know, it's you know, if
Speaker 1: you're if you're around my age, Well, we didn't have
Speaker 1: the internet, right, I had a library, right, and so
Speaker 1: you go in and look what little Devin Lindell checked out.
Speaker 1: It was all the big Foot stuff. It was all
Speaker 1: the UFO and in anything paranormal. I probably had an
Speaker 1: overdue and passed to you know. But you know at
Speaker 1: Ciltain Pime, I guess you know, you I'm an adult
Speaker 1: ride and you follow the you know, the ways of
Speaker 1: the fall in the world, I think, and you just
Speaker 1: get pulled away from I think, what our passions are.
Speaker 1: But so it's not as though I never had any interest,
Speaker 1: but you know, it just never really you know, you
Speaker 1: can tell you feed one, right, Yeah, it's like a
Speaker 1: totally different thing.
Speaker 2: Were you aware of what you were looking at whenever
Speaker 2: you saw it? Did it register that like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: that's a Sasquatch?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I But I mean, like I there was still again,
Speaker 1: like I think part of the ego brain that was like, no,
Speaker 1: we have to make sense of this. There was that
Speaker 1: little ego I think in the background it was like, no,
Speaker 1: it was a you know, the the pastor there was
Speaker 1: a there was some angus beef I think that were
Speaker 1: being raged in like the next field over. I mean
Speaker 1: it was apple acres over. But you know, the egos like,
Speaker 1: oh maybe when the cows got out and walking on
Speaker 1: its hind leg, you know, it's like, come on. The
Speaker 1: mine had the ego I think, if you will, had
Speaker 1: to explain it away. But I went back in the
Speaker 1: the arth and was just you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: I went to sleep for a little while because it
Speaker 1: was my mind was just racing. But there was still
Speaker 1: something in the back of my mind that was trying
Speaker 1: to say, oh no, no, no, it had to be
Speaker 1: this or this. You could have seen what your thoughts
Speaker 1: you saw, you know what I mean. Yeah, And so
Speaker 1: I get up the next morning and I go to
Speaker 1: breakfast and we have kind of a group breakfast thing,
Speaker 1: and I just start sharing my hell. And as soon
Speaker 1: as I start talking about it, a couple of other
Speaker 1: people who have been there a few times start chiming in. Yep,
Speaker 1: I've seen it too. There's like did you see the family?
Speaker 1: Did you see the kid? Did you see the mom?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, I guess I don't know big gold,
Speaker 1: you know airy now what i'd know to be fat,
Speaker 1: squawked or bigfoot? But I said, I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know nothing. Ton't have any you know, measurement or
Speaker 1: skill that say well, this is the you know, the juvile,
Speaker 1: this is the adult, this is the female. Crazy day right,
Speaker 1: A lot of different things happened, but on night two
Speaker 1: it's it's almost like a it's like a cobbon copy
Speaker 1: of night one almost, and that I've wormed out the earth.
Speaker 1: I went off and did some activities, came back, you know,
Speaker 1: put my head on the pillow, and finally go to
Speaker 1: sleep and wind down. And there we go again for
Speaker 1: about an hour. Every time I would start to get
Speaker 1: to sleep, I'd start to hear that tap again, and
Speaker 1: I'd wake up. I kind of look around, all right,
Speaker 1: where's the tapping come from? Ed go away again, I
Speaker 1: go back to sleep, tapping comes back, I wake up,
Speaker 1: and it goes all I don't know, like an hour
Speaker 1: and so it's about the same time, and unfortunately I've
Speaker 1: got to do the same business, you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: not going to run over to the bathroom because it's
Speaker 1: still pouring rain. So at this time it was a
Speaker 1: little bit different man this time. And I've been phak
Speaker 1: my whole life. I believe that everyone is. It's just
Speaker 1: kind of what level you are, and it things like,
Speaker 1: it's really not what a lot of people make it
Speaker 1: out to be. But any rate, so I go and
Speaker 1: put my hand on the door, and I thought, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Before I go out here, I'm gonna send a thought out.
Speaker 1: And my thought was and getting ready to open this door,
Speaker 1: and I gotta go Picky really bad. So yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no choice, but I don't want to startle you. And
Speaker 1: would you please kind of show yourself again? Does it
Speaker 1: make sense? Yeah, that's about what I said, right in
Speaker 1: my thoughts as I was sort of projecting them out.
Speaker 1: And so I opened the door. Well there it is Matt,
Speaker 1: not one, not two, but three of them. Wow. Now
Speaker 1: this at this point it's a little bit obvious. I
Speaker 1: would say. The first night, what I saw was the
Speaker 1: young one, and so from I guess my left to
Speaker 1: my right right as I'm looking out, it would be
Speaker 1: the young one mom's and I say mom, because it
Speaker 1: the figure was different, right, It was like it would
Speaker 1: ben like a more feminine figure, not quite as big
Speaker 1: as the one to the furthest on my right, which
Speaker 1: was considerably bigger than the smaller one. And again looking
Speaker 1: back at it, I'm like, yeah, I saw that the
Speaker 1: smaller one. So what I follow the first night? They're
Speaker 1: almost like in a Unison step and they're not moving
Speaker 1: like fast. It's almost like step one, step two, you know,
Speaker 1: just like at a at a real slow gate. But
Speaker 1: they they begin then to do that same thing. They
Speaker 1: begin to vanish from top to bottom and almost like
Speaker 1: they did it in Unison. Do here. So when we're
Speaker 1: again just from the head to the shoulders, to the
Speaker 1: chest and to the waifs that they're gone, it's just
Speaker 1: more confirmation to me that not only they're highly like
Speaker 1: they can communicate with us. But so I go back in.
Speaker 1: I finished my business, I shut the door, and I
Speaker 1: do stand there for a minute because I'm kind of like, yo,
Speaker 1: what'd your mind just coming? Like? However, you exited with
Speaker 1: coming back in the same way, you know, you know
Speaker 1: what you mean yeah, but yeah, that that didn't happen.
Speaker 1: But I did stand there for a minute. I also
Speaker 1: stood there for a minute just in awe at this
Speaker 1: point in time seeing three of them, Like, the ego's
Speaker 1: pretty crushed. It can't explain this away, but I go
Speaker 1: back in, I put my head on the pillow and
Speaker 1: and there was still that little bit of the ego.
Speaker 1: Well I knew it wasn't and in my mind I heard,
Speaker 1: if you will, the ego say a deer or bigfoot. Now,
Speaker 1: Assuna's bigfoot came through my mind the top of the year.
Speaker 1: It goes. Now a lot of people like, we're like
Speaker 1: definitely like scared shitless. No, No, I wasn't. I wasn't
Speaker 1: scared whatsoever. Like the message that I got. And I
Speaker 1: believe that the little one banging on the top was Yo,
Speaker 1: it's me. I'm telling you by responding to your thought
Speaker 1: and and all I've got. All I got from that
Speaker 1: that knocking and that consciousness, if you will, that I
Speaker 1: talked about I felt on it that first night was
Speaker 1: just nothing but pure unconditional love. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: some people have said, well, Devin, that was a state
Speaker 1: of consciousness you were in and so they just reflected
Speaker 1: that back to you. And I think there might be
Speaker 1: some truth to that now that when some people go
Speaker 1: into the woods and they get like a nasty bigfoot,
Speaker 1: I think like, well, just like the offended masters, like
Speaker 1: Christ and like Buddha, and like anyone who reaches a
Speaker 1: higher level of consciousness, what they tend to do is
Speaker 1: when people come across these people or I think even beings,
Speaker 1: did they simply had their own consciousness reflected back to them.
Speaker 2: It seems to be the case in a lot of situations,
Speaker 2: for sure. There seems to be a direct correlation between
Speaker 2: the experience someone has with them in accordance with what
Speaker 2: intent that person has at the time and where they're
Speaker 2: at and what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, I think so.
Speaker 3: But you know that that also, if you know, if
Speaker 3: we if we go ahead and and look back at
Speaker 3: even some of the and I want to go on
Speaker 3: to the that next day too, because some people all
Speaker 3: lose at.
Speaker 1: This part of the story. But I'm I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you because I do believe this tie is all went together.
Speaker 1: But you know, you've got the Native Americans again, I'm
Speaker 1: not real great, I'm pulling their tails I'm not a native,
Speaker 1: but I've listened to plenty of them, and that I
Speaker 1: guess at some point in time. One of their tales
Speaker 1: is that the bigfoot and human kind of co mingled,
Speaker 1: or they were much more aware of each other. And
Speaker 1: then at some point in time, the big Foot of
Speaker 1: the Sasquatch went on more of a spiritual evolution where
Speaker 1: we went more on, if you will, the fall in
Speaker 1: world evolution and things of man and rather not things
Speaker 1: of nature. I don't know, and maybe that is true.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why, you know, you've got to almost be
Speaker 1: at a high enough conscious level to to interact with them.
Speaker 1: The second day when I come back, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting back again after that second second night and
Speaker 1: seeing the free I shit down to breakfast again, and
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I'm just like like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I've got to seem like a little kid. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm like so excited and everything else. I'm just telling
Speaker 1: this tale right of seeing the family that was discussed
Speaker 1: and telling them, you know, the banging on the earth
Speaker 1: and all of that, and you know, my mind is
Speaker 1: still just it's like on a Bigfoot overload, you know,
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of other things I got to
Speaker 1: see out there too, but at least right now we're
Speaker 1: on Bigfoot. And and so I go back. The apple
Speaker 1: orchard actually had several apples on the tree, and I'm
Speaker 1: like huge apple eaters, so I have I think a
Speaker 1: couple of eggs. And then I went out and just
Speaker 1: started picking apples and the apple orchard and just eating
Speaker 1: them right off the tree. And I thought, oh, this
Speaker 1: is interesting. As I'm sitting there and right about the
Speaker 1: time I'm just pondering on the events on the night before,
Speaker 1: a buck and a mother and a baby deer walk
Speaker 1: into the orchard.
Speaker 2: Huh yeah.
Speaker 1: The baby walked all the way up to me, and
Speaker 1: I thought, well, you're an awful brave little deer. I
Speaker 1: mean close enough I could have like grabbed its nose.
Speaker 1: Now I didn't. They're right about that time. I mean,
Speaker 1: your audience can make of what they want of this
Speaker 1: that I share it. And this is this is this
Speaker 1: is just what I believe at that moment when I
Speaker 1: was like, holy cow, you're a brave little deer and
Speaker 1: I just want to grab your little fuzzy nose, you know,
Speaker 1: there was something inside Mutes said, no, that's Bigfoot. And
Speaker 1: somehow you're seeing or it's projecting a deer now light.
Speaker 1: When that happened, the buck orded scratching at the ground. Now,
Speaker 1: if you ever see like deers, dude, generally what they're
Speaker 1: telling the other deers, Hey, it's time to go, let's move.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. It was almost like the
Speaker 1: little baby with a little hesitant, but dad starts scratching
Speaker 1: at the ground, and Dad started moving, Mom was following,
Speaker 1: and then finally the baby followed. Now again, a lot
Speaker 1: of people sayah, right, Devin, I believe you called Bigfoot
Speaker 1: the first night and the suckond night, but I'm not
Speaker 1: buying this. You know you saw Bigfoot as a deer. Well,
Speaker 1: I've shared this story with a few different Lakota and
Speaker 1: an elder while with out there the next year, and
Speaker 1: he just told me, he said, no, Dad, and I
Speaker 1: believe that's what's it's all. And I said, what do
Speaker 1: you mean? Like, you know, other people are having trouble
Speaker 1: believing that maybe that next morning I saw the same family,
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, that's not what they showed up as.
Speaker 1: Or you know, either they most into something else or
Speaker 1: I believe it's more like a mind trick that they
Speaker 1: do on you. But he said, Belle, lord and e
Speaker 1: we we will talk about the sad squatch and that
Speaker 1: you know, you could be a group of hunters, he said,
Speaker 1: walking up the mountain and you know, hunting fat squatch.
Speaker 1: And a hunter can walk by you with his gun
Speaker 1: in hand, and then you know, his hunting gear on,
Speaker 1: and you can say, hey, where's the fat squatch and
Speaker 1: he might say, won't click up the road here, and
Speaker 1: you just walk by bigfoot. I don't know. Apparently they
Speaker 1: believe that. I don't know if they're morphing or if
Speaker 1: they're just sort of projecting something into the mind of
Speaker 1: the person that's seeing them, but that the next morning,
Speaker 1: that's you know, my hand to God, if you know,
Speaker 1: if somebody wants to press me on it, now, there
Speaker 1: was a bigfoot. I don't know exactly what they're doing. Again,
Speaker 1: I think they're probably somehow twisting my own mind to
Speaker 1: make me think that that's what I was actually looking at.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not the first time I've heard that.
Speaker 2: Have you The deer there's a guy that tells a
Speaker 2: story about seeing a bigfoot turn into a deer, and
Speaker 2: the idea of them being able to kind of project
Speaker 2: things into people's minds to conceal their identities or whatever.
Speaker 2: Is something that I've heard a few times over the years.
Speaker 1: Let me let me go to them. The following year
Speaker 1: and I was again following what I believe is it was.
Speaker 1: I was almost like on an etheric boot camp. For
Speaker 1: about five years. I was on the road and so
Speaker 1: literally if I got thought of the what I would
Speaker 1: call it, you know, the holy spirits that he go here.
Speaker 1: I had a job basically where I could kind of
Speaker 1: throw everything in the back of the trunk and work remotely.
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, you know, I'm game, you know,
Speaker 1: And so I just heard it kind of plain as day.
Speaker 1: It was about two years prior to me going to
Speaker 1: was Cameron, Texas, and I did some sharecropping out there,
Speaker 1: just basically told, you know, take the business out there.
Speaker 1: He puts feet in the you know, and get back
Speaker 1: in touch well being understanding that I've I've seen through
Speaker 1: the veil. I had my first encounter with a black
Speaker 1: astral being and got to cast it out if you will,
Speaker 1: when I was about four. But the probably I think
Speaker 1: part of me going on these journeys was almost to
Speaker 1: get back to I think maybe original reason I came here,
Speaker 1: maybe some of the gifts that I, you know, I
Speaker 1: had been given. So I was out on this property
Speaker 1: and yeah, I went doing sharecropping and just having some
Speaker 1: really interesting UFO encounters and other encounters. But I was
Speaker 1: noticing that one night and actually a couple of days
Speaker 1: were just wellarticularly hairy, and all I can tell you
Speaker 1: is that like the uh, the negative energies or whatever
Speaker 1: you want to say, we're just getting a little bit
Speaker 1: too much for me. And it was just kind of
Speaker 1: feeling a little bit of the ick and the ooze
Speaker 1: and almost like I have something sort of latched onto
Speaker 1: my back and I couldn't shake it. I couldn't even
Speaker 1: really see it. There was a lot of weird you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's some Poulter guys on that property. That was
Speaker 1: my first time running into a Poulter guy. So it's
Speaker 1: hard to tell what I think had latched on to me,
Speaker 1: But I mean I just couldn't take it off, and
Speaker 1: my normal things that I would do, prayer and different techniques,
Speaker 1: I just was like, no, I can't seem to get
Speaker 1: rid of this nazy thing. I'll just share it with you.
Speaker 1: Because we're on the subject of them morphing. So I
Speaker 1: believe that more than one time I've run into this
Speaker 1: same family and it's not been in the same location.
Speaker 1: So and I'll just share the story with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so on this it was a three hundred acre organic ranch.
Speaker 1: Now we also had he had cattle, you know, he
Speaker 1: had the big steer cattle and had a few others.
Speaker 1: He had horses, but they were pretty much on one
Speaker 1: side of the property. Yeah, there was a fence over
Speaker 1: near my cabin that that they could if they wanted
Speaker 1: to wander over there, they could, But I mean it
Speaker 1: was rocky, gravelly stuff over on the side of the
Speaker 1: fence and that that I did never really fall cows
Speaker 1: or sears go over there, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I'm walking back to the irth and I'm also
Speaker 1: sitting there thinking, man, I still got this negative thing
Speaker 1: on hanging on my back, and you know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like, what am I going to do here to
Speaker 1: get rid of this? You know, I'm I've been leneering
Speaker 1: now for a couple of days, and I walk into
Speaker 1: the cabin. I think I'm really too much focused on
Speaker 1: you know, just I don't know a lot of the
Speaker 1: a lot of the negative stuff that has gone on
Speaker 1: the property. But I had looked over it was about
Speaker 1: I don't know, forty feet away was where the fence
Speaker 1: line was, you know that would divide the field. And
Speaker 1: well there is where we go again is a big
Speaker 1: old steer but look to probably be a female and
Speaker 1: a smaller you know, a smaller I guess, you know
Speaker 1: whatever spear probably cow right. I didn't, but it was
Speaker 1: at first it didn't make much sense to me, like
Speaker 1: I didn't. They didn't register right away, but they were moving,
Speaker 1: but it was like, what the heck happened to your moor?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like it just sounded
Speaker 1: so strange, like you know what I mean, Like it
Speaker 1: just didn't sound right like I understood, Like I understood
Speaker 1: when I was looking at it didn't register right away,
Speaker 1: like what are you guys doing over here? Like I
Speaker 1: never see any of this steer over here? That's loggy
Speaker 1: ground over there. You know, how are you even walking
Speaker 1: over there without just you know, falling over? And and
Speaker 1: then this weird mood that they were putting out and
Speaker 1: it was almost like you're doing it in unison. And
Speaker 1: then so I I see that I turned I opened
Speaker 1: the door to my cabin and I shut it. Well,
Speaker 1: whatever was on my back was gone, just like it vanished,
Speaker 1: It was gone. I was like, holy cow, what what
Speaker 1: the heck just happened there? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And it But then I go back to wait a minute,
Speaker 1: what's going on in those three cows? This yeer in
Speaker 1: the and the would be would appear to be a
Speaker 1: teamale and a smaller one and open the door back
Speaker 1: up to where they were and that just within a
Speaker 1: second and they were not there. They were going And
Speaker 1: I believe that that same family and what did they do?
Speaker 1: I don't know. We're removing some negative energy off me
Speaker 1: like a good shuman? What have I guess? Like I
Speaker 1: should have been able to if I was, you know,
Speaker 1: really on my game.
Speaker 2: There are some things that you've said that have been
Speaker 2: said in other episodes with people that I've talked to,
Speaker 2: just some reoccurring things that seem little. But there's certain
Speaker 2: things that are standing out to me that are different
Speaker 2: from typical big foot encounters that people have. If you know,
Speaker 2: they're just out camping with the family in the wood
Speaker 2: and see when while they're out hiking or something, the
Speaker 2: movements in unison, the tapping sequences and everything on the
Speaker 2: roof and a few other things. I've actually had a
Speaker 2: practicing Buddhist on the show before talk about some very
Speaker 2: similar things that you've mentioned, and they.
Speaker 1: And they, as far as I know what I'd explained to,
Speaker 1: they just call them David and so I kind of
Speaker 1: like basically any bean that can kind of go from
Speaker 1: their dimension in and out of our dimension, and you know,
Speaker 1: they just put it in one big category good and
Speaker 1: bad or just all Davis. But they do, they do
Speaker 1: say that, I believe, you know, they'll say there's some
Speaker 1: natty Davis where they're basically angelic. Well, my interaction with
Speaker 1: Bigfoot has been nothing that I get you called angelic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think that there's the two different varieties though,
Speaker 2: whenever it comes to these beings, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I've I've got to I've got to understand that.
Speaker 1: I I don't think everyone out there is Sometimes I
Speaker 1: think people are telling another person's story. Sometimes I don't
Speaker 1: think they know what they're seeing. And there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things out in the woods. You know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: probably are going to go back to if it if
Speaker 1: they are indeed running into a fast squad or a
Speaker 1: bigfoot and they have a negative encounter. I want to
Speaker 1: say more, it's probably just that the creature is reflecting
Speaker 1: back wherever you're at. And you know, but you know,
Speaker 1: you know, people don't like it when I say, you know,
Speaker 1: what do you do on hunting for bigfoot nets or
Speaker 1: bigfoot you know, droppings? If I'm gonna if or you know,
Speaker 1: you wonder if I've heard some people wonder, you know, well,
Speaker 1: how do they tolerate the cool or the warm or
Speaker 1: you know whatever. I'm like, I'm an inter dimensional being.
Speaker 1: What do I got to worry about any of that stuff?
Speaker 1: You know, I'll just, you know, if if it's too
Speaker 1: cold up here in Kentucky, and I guess I go
Speaker 1: down to the Florida swamp, you know, I just just
Speaker 1: teleoport myself and that how it works. I guess.
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's that's the key. I don't think
Speaker 2: anybody knows for sure what's going on with these things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've I've had a run in with a dog
Speaker 1: man on my property that was not benevolent, I don't believe.
Speaker 1: And you know, if anything, that thing was just trying
Speaker 1: to scare the the ebgb's out of me. But you
Speaker 1: know it, I've seen a lot. I've seen a lot
Speaker 1: since I was a kid, so I think maybe it
Speaker 1: takes a little bit more to scare me than the
Speaker 1: average person.
Speaker 2: Would you mind talking about that?
Speaker 1: You know, I just I'll just tell you, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to tell you in the entirety, or try to
Speaker 1: my best I can. It's very short, and there's but
Speaker 1: I mean, it's nonetheless, I know what happened, and I'll
Speaker 1: just share with you how it happened. And yet people
Speaker 1: take what they want of it. So I had been out,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was probably right at twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: late twenty twenty, and it was allish because I remember
Speaker 1: the others and I just been on the property a
Speaker 1: few months. And there is a spot on my property.
Speaker 1: Actually I call it baptismal pond. Now that's another story,
Speaker 1: but I don't think I accidentally named it baptismal pond.
Speaker 1: I haven't any baptisms in there, but there does seem
Speaker 1: to be something really special about this area of the property.
Speaker 1: And I come to find out that before I own
Speaker 1: the property, some other people in this town were actually
Speaker 1: going to that same spot on the property. And we're
Speaker 1: saying basically they're kind of having I recon call it
Speaker 1: miraculous feelings, but they were able to other woman said
Speaker 1: she was able to go down and just let Steph go.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so I'm on the part of the property
Speaker 1: where i've myself, I've been down there, and let's just say, like,
Speaker 1: you just feel this higher energy a lot of times,
Speaker 1: and you know it's just a I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's shit, a very very pleasant vibe if you will,
Speaker 1: right down there. And well, one night I'm down there
Speaker 1: and I was walking from my house down to this
Speaker 1: pond at about I don't know, it's about one hundred yards.
Speaker 1: It's not very far, and so i'd not maybe like
Speaker 1: a fourth away through my beer and i'd shut that
Speaker 1: down on a picnic table down there. And I want
Speaker 1: to cover this part birth because I think somehow they
Speaker 1: pie together. And I've heard one other person report seeing
Speaker 1: a dog man and also report something similar. Now at
Speaker 1: the time, I know I've got a neighbor, and now
Speaker 1: she's another like forty acre lot over. So but if
Speaker 1: thee sort of offen my property towards her a property,
Speaker 1: it was like almost like a towilkling of light, and
Speaker 1: I don't know. The best I can describe is it
Speaker 1: seems I was almost like a metallic twinkle, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. Now, there wasn't like one pinpoint where they
Speaker 1: were coming from, but they were coming from a general area,
Speaker 1: and it was just a really brief sort of thing.
Speaker 1: But my mind was kind of like, well, what the
Speaker 1: heck was that? You know, is my neighbor having like
Speaker 1: a little bounty house, you know, play party and I'm
Speaker 1: seeing like the lights off retract off of that or something.
Speaker 1: But now looking back, now, no, there was, you know,
Speaker 1: my e I just wasn't really familiar with the property
Speaker 1: to where my neighbors were there. There was nothing in
Speaker 1: that general area, and like somebody was back in my
Speaker 1: woods mess around with some weird life I've never seen.
Speaker 1: There's nothing in that area. But I just kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's interesting, little little twinkles of lights there, you know.
Speaker 1: But immediately after I saw that twinkle, just seconds later,
Speaker 1: I hear sounds like a dog in the briar's next
Speaker 1: to the pond. Now I have since cut back the
Speaker 1: briers because they had been so neglected that they were
Speaker 1: just really heavy. But in my mind too, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what's the dog doing over here in the briars, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: like but you I would have said it was on
Speaker 1: the ground that I could hear it. I mean like
Speaker 1: snipping in court, sort of grunting it. And I'm thinking, well,
Speaker 1: where are my dogs? My dogs are back up at
Speaker 1: the house. Yeah, I've got a couple of big dog
Speaker 1: and a couple of smaller dogs. They're back up in
Speaker 1: the house. I know it's not them my neighbors around here.
Speaker 1: You know, you get into rule parks Kentucky a lot
Speaker 1: of times people let their dogs wander. But you know,
Speaker 1: even the neighbors dogs, they don't come down to my pond. Now,
Speaker 1: they'll walk the street in between, you know, wherever they're
Speaker 1: going to the next house. I don't see him down there.
Speaker 1: But I thought, well, I got you know, I got
Speaker 1: a neighbor's dog in my briars, right. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the dog would be doing in the briar, wouldn't
Speaker 1: seem to be a very comfortable place to be. But
Speaker 1: I thought, well, I'm gonna sew it out, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of now make a little noise and
Speaker 1: stop at the ground. And that's what I did, thinking
Speaker 1: it was gonna bowled out of the bushes. Well, it
Speaker 1: didn't build out of the bushes. The best I can
Speaker 1: describe is it stood up. Now. When I say I
Speaker 1: saw it, I followed in my third eye, I did
Speaker 1: hear it. And but so people who medicate and meditate regularly,
Speaker 1: particularly if you're a weird person like me, who's you know,
Speaker 1: kind of in the shamanic way. Sometimes I'll meet somebody
Speaker 1: and I'll go to shake their hand. I'll even shut
Speaker 1: my eye for a moment to kind of see what
Speaker 1: I see around the person. That makes sense, Yeah, Or
Speaker 1: if I go to somewhere and I'm feeling some sort
Speaker 1: of you know, different energy, I'm shutting my eyes to
Speaker 1: see what I'm seeing with that other eye. And a
Speaker 1: lot of times, believe it or not, your third I
Speaker 1: can give you more detail than what you know. That
Speaker 1: our our physical eyes that only see what not even
Speaker 1: a third of percent of the light spectrum. Right, So
Speaker 1: what I do is, you know, I I feel this thing.
Speaker 1: Basically I can say, is I feel it like walk
Speaker 1: through me? And my people might talk with them. Why
Speaker 1: do you think it walked through You say you couldn't
Speaker 1: see it, well, because all of a sudden I had
Speaker 1: to grab a hold of the table. Like what I
Speaker 1: think happened when it walked through me was that it
Speaker 1: may be messed with my chakra or my own energetic
Speaker 1: system to where like I was sort of discombobulated that
Speaker 1: I mean, I felt like I had about a twelve
Speaker 1: pack of beer for about five seconds. I had to
Speaker 1: grab a hold of the picnic table almost from falling over.
Speaker 1: But and that moment, what I did was I shut
Speaker 1: my eyes, like what is this? Because it was it
Speaker 1: was it was very, very very dark out there. I
Speaker 1: believe than new moons. There wasn't any you know, there
Speaker 1: wasn't any moonlight, nothing to really be casting any sort
Speaker 1: of light. He sided a little flickle. I thought this
Speaker 1: prior to this, But I have, like again this moment
Speaker 1: where I believe my power centers, my chakra have been
Speaker 1: spun or they're just not in alightenment anymore. To what
Speaker 1: my physical being can't even really stand there. And I
Speaker 1: shut my eyes and I see it. Well, it's very
Speaker 1: skinny body, almost sort of like hunched over, you know,
Speaker 1: humanoid form, but it's got a big long snout and
Speaker 1: it's a you know, it's a dog head. But people
Speaker 1: can say, You're like, Okay, Devin, now you think you're
Speaker 1: seeing this thing in your third eye. But what I
Speaker 1: hear at the same time that I see this thing
Speaker 1: in my third eye standing behind me. As all this said,
Speaker 1: and I hear the faith gets me free. Times I
Speaker 1: lose your man.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just trying to wrap my head around this.
Speaker 1: Well, ask me any questions, I'll be better thing I
Speaker 1: can tell you.
Speaker 2: But I want to ask you if you chose that
Speaker 2: property for a reason?
Speaker 1: Specific reason was really I'm kind of looking for that
Speaker 1: piece of sacred land that sort of got that that
Speaker 1: nice buzz and field where the veil gets very thin,
Speaker 1: if you will, Because I do believe that in certain
Speaker 1: parts of the world, you know, people will talk about
Speaker 1: the grid system right the lay lines of the earth.
Speaker 1: I do believe that there is something to the different
Speaker 1: places that I visited. The place that I've talked to
Speaker 1: you a little bit about being hired to be a
Speaker 1: shaman and a ghostbuster, and some sacred land in Colorado.
Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, So I did deliberately pick this spot
Speaker 1: because I feel the veil was spin here and I
Speaker 1: think the work that I do is a little bit easier,
Speaker 1: and I like you know, I think once you really
Speaker 1: dive into paranormal, when you realize that there are uso,
Speaker 1: there are cryptids. I mean, personally myself, I've just kind
Speaker 1: of It's not like it's my constant pursuit. But if
Speaker 1: it's a passion, you know, why wouldn't I want to
Speaker 1: put myself where I can have more experience of that.
Speaker 1: If I was in to good at surfing, I'd try
Speaker 1: to live on the coast. Right. I'm an awful surfer,
Speaker 1: you know, so I've been experiencer I see, it's the
Speaker 1: veil since I was a child. So I you know,
Speaker 1: why not you know, my in my semi in my
Speaker 1: semi retired years, why not pick this property.
Speaker 2: It's just the sacred ground thing has come up, you
Speaker 2: know obviously several times while you were talking, and it's
Speaker 2: got me thinking about the whole concept about how you know,
Speaker 2: back before technology, sacred ground, sacred areas were just a thing.
Speaker 2: It wasn't folklore, you know, it wasn't anything paranormal. It
Speaker 2: was just a thing. If you look at the Pyramids
Speaker 2: and Stonehinge and all these huge mysteries of the world,
Speaker 2: you know, those locations were picked for a reason, and
Speaker 2: it wasn't just a single culture. It was all cultures
Speaker 2: believed that there were areas that were sacred. There were
Speaker 2: areas that were spiritual, there were areas that were good energy,
Speaker 2: positive energy, other areas that were dark energy, and it
Speaker 2: was just an accepted thing. And those areas were still
Speaker 2: on the same planet. They didn't go away. We just
Speaker 2: pulled ourselves away from them. However we did it through
Speaker 2: technology or just you know, however you want to say
Speaker 2: that it happened.
Speaker 1: But I think, well, I think for a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of of course, a lot of history has
Speaker 1: been twisted in and raised. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: the true knowledge and wisden that we used to have
Speaker 1: been twisted in a race. I think that if you will,
Speaker 1: if if my experience had been and I've had other
Speaker 1: people come to this protropherty and you know, those say
Speaker 1: the same thing, and I tell them, I said, listen,
Speaker 1: this is sacred land. You will have whatever you bring
Speaker 1: to this property intensified times a thousand or I should
Speaker 1: make sure you know you're coming from the heart. But
Speaker 1: it's the same thing here as I've seen in other
Speaker 1: places like this. It's like I've seen prayer. Answer man
Speaker 1: Matt I've seen I've seen prayer answer in less than
Speaker 1: twenty four hours when I when I've lived in different
Speaker 1: places like this, and it's just like, look, you know,
Speaker 1: there's something happening again. I'm I'm not the expert on it,
Speaker 1: but i just know that certain areas, you know, the
Speaker 1: I call it the Veil Getting Center. I consider it
Speaker 1: to be sacred land. You know, they're the place that
Speaker 1: I worked out in Colorado. The tale was, is that
Speaker 1: the top springs that you would have even warning tribes
Speaker 1: that would come to this location to heal, but they
Speaker 1: would put down all their beef, if you will, before
Speaker 1: they came because they understood that area. They did not war,
Speaker 1: and it was you know, it was a spiritual place.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm a firm believer that things of a paranormal
Speaker 2: or unexplainable nature can occur pretty much anywhere. With that
Speaker 2: being said, there are definitely some areas, and I've talked
Speaker 2: about it before that there just seems to be areas
Speaker 2: where it's like people experience all sorts of strange things.
Speaker 2: There's just always weird things going on there. And I
Speaker 2: think that's kind of like what we're talking about now,
Speaker 2: is some of those places and then if you combine
Speaker 2: some of those places with some of the right people,
Speaker 2: amazing and extraordinary things can happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they really can.
Speaker 2: How did this whole thing get started for you? I
Speaker 2: know you said that you had an incident at a
Speaker 2: very early age. For I think you said, how did
Speaker 2: all this journey sort of begin for you and sort
Speaker 2: of manifest?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'd like to say like I was
Speaker 1: completely turned on to it all as a child, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I knew that there was a lot of
Speaker 1: things going on, but I didn't have a whole lot
Speaker 1: of I didn't have the Internet. Of course, that's can
Speaker 1: be a good thing too. I didn't have the Internet
Speaker 1: to seed me right because my background behavioral psychology. I
Speaker 1: understand that you know that that that science itself a
Speaker 1: lot of times is just used against us in media
Speaker 1: and other places. But at any rate, I didn't have,
Speaker 1: like the the early like the the weird aunt or
Speaker 1: the weird uncle to sit there and put that stuff
Speaker 1: in my head of the paranormal and the supernatural. And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times today a lot again,
Speaker 1: a lot of times I think with people experience for
Speaker 1: other people's stories, you know, them fault is their own.
Speaker 1: But I don't know my first experience, at least with
Speaker 1: the supernatural or a lot of people have different names.
Speaker 1: What I like to just I call it a black astral.
Speaker 1: Somebody had given me sort of a a list of
Speaker 1: how they categorize some of these beings, and you know,
Speaker 1: I roughly agreed with the list, so I thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that name black astral. Well, what is a
Speaker 1: black astral? Well, in general, a black astrol's basically just
Speaker 1: a it's a powat shadow. But look clarified, that does
Speaker 1: not come off the wall. So if it comes off
Speaker 1: a wall and starts moving around the room, that's something else.
Speaker 1: It's not a black astrol. It starts coming off the
Speaker 1: wall moving around the room. And that goes to, like
Speaker 1: to me, at another level of if you will to
Speaker 1: the darker side of the etheric got the next next league.
Speaker 1: So black astral as I've always described this sort of
Speaker 1: bush league, and I don't tell people to go messing
Speaker 1: with them, but yeah, you would start to understand them.
Speaker 1: You can even do things like return the Black askl
Speaker 1: the thunder if somebody sent you something of that nature.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you that this story so around about
Speaker 1: four and I was in a neighbor towels and it
Speaker 1: was about noon and I was being babysat, and you know,
Speaker 1: I can remember there was a bunk bed in that room,
Speaker 1: and you know there was there was plenty of light
Speaker 1: in the room. You know, it's new, and even though
Speaker 1: the curtains were drawn, but there's no reason to be
Speaker 1: a solid black shadow on the wall. But as I'm
Speaker 1: laying there kind of tossing and turning, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: sure trying to avoid nap time on the floorboard, it
Speaker 1: starts to fall from the floor. So basically it's kind
Speaker 1: of like you can start to see the legs form,
Speaker 1: and again it's just a shadow on the wall, but
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's solid black shadow, and it's got
Speaker 1: legs and gets to the point where you can see
Speaker 1: it's got you know, hips, and it goes up. It's
Speaker 1: got a chest and it's headled all the way to
Speaker 1: the top of the ceiling. So I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: eight foot pall at least projected on the wall, and
Speaker 1: it gets to the point where where I can see
Speaker 1: the head and then it's got two horns. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know, somewhere in between me seeing it start on
Speaker 1: the floor, and then about halfway formed, I think, as
Speaker 1: a little kid, I had already figured like, this thing's
Speaker 1: not here to sing Neil lullaby, you know, like there
Speaker 1: was even an I had enough, I think to sermon
Speaker 1: as a child to be like, oh, like this isn't good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so it gets to to the point where I
Speaker 1: can see the arms, I can see the chests, I
Speaker 1: can see the legs, I can see the head. I
Speaker 1: can see it it's got two horns on the head.
Speaker 1: Then even that it kind of starts to do this
Speaker 1: like little shinny like kind of moving back and forth
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know. And at the time I
Speaker 1: know one prayer and so and I think it's interesting that,
Speaker 1: you know. I don't run out of the room, I
Speaker 1: don't pee myself, I don't throw my head underneath the covers.
Speaker 1: But what I did was decide to repeat the prayer. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you heard it. It's I've looked
Speaker 1: it up. It's probably one of the number one said
Speaker 1: you children's prayer. Now I lay me down to sleep,
Speaker 1: but pray the Lord might fill to keeping it. I
Speaker 1: die before you probably bet it before you probably couldn't.
Speaker 2: Have said it under the same similar circumstances.
Speaker 1: Huh, well, guess what this thing, Matt that took thirty
Speaker 1: seconds to fall on? Right roughly, I would say, and
Speaker 1: then kind of start doing this little shimmy. Dam All
Speaker 1: of I know is I bet it the prayer. But
Speaker 1: the first time I got to the word Lord, oh
Speaker 1: that penguin, damn, it's just like where the hell it
Speaker 1: came from. That's where it went back to an incidant.
Speaker 1: And so even as a child, though, I still pondered
Speaker 1: like bigger things. I was always laying in bed at
Speaker 1: night wondering where I was in the universe, Why was here?
Speaker 1: What my bigger purpose was? Who is Jesus? Who is
Speaker 1: this Holy Spirit? Who's the pirate? Right? Done? The Holy Spirit?
Speaker 1: Not of that as a four year old really made
Speaker 1: all that much then me and I had think Jesus
Speaker 1: a couple of times in my third eye, so that's
Speaker 1: really all I needed to know. I thought that what
Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting was this thing responded to
Speaker 1: the word Lord. I got that, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Now, I didn't know why it did, but I would say,
Speaker 1: like all the frequency or vibration, right everything. We'd say,
Speaker 1: that's all it is, our thoughts, that's all they are. Well,
Speaker 1: I would say that frequency, that vibration of that word,
Speaker 1: that being did not want.
Speaker 2: Anything to do with. You experienced that at the age
Speaker 2: of four. What motivated you as an adult to go
Speaker 2: down this path? Because I mean, it's not an easy
Speaker 2: thing to do.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's not and you'll lose friends over it.
Speaker 1: But you know, somebody already told me that, you know
Speaker 1: if they hated me, though, I hate you too, And
Speaker 1: it's right there in your Bible. Once you pick up
Speaker 1: that cross, Somebody's asked me before as then thereser, how
Speaker 1: do I know if I picked up my cross and
Speaker 1: all right, I have all your friends and family rejected
Speaker 1: you yet now they probably haven't done it, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know it. There was just that
Speaker 1: early drawl that was really beyond kind of normal, I
Speaker 1: think for a child to sit there and and have
Speaker 1: these these thoughts and these communications, and you know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of different stories that I haven't you know,
Speaker 1: conversations that I've had with christ and I can still
Speaker 1: remember as a child. But tell you, when I was
Speaker 1: a little kid, I was having a reoccurring dream basically
Speaker 1: being brutally murdered, over tortured and murdered over the course
Speaker 1: of about a week. And I would come out of
Speaker 1: this dream and again there's nobody that tell me, Hey, dad,
Speaker 1: there's things called paft live. You know, I liven't taunt
Speaker 1: non denominational Christian church, right. But I go to my
Speaker 1: mom and I'd say, listen, mom, I've seen one of
Speaker 1: my past lives and I was murdered here and I
Speaker 1: have a good idea who I was, what I was
Speaker 1: doing while I was killed. And my mom would just
Speaker 1: look like I'm sure, just like look, who's kid are you?
Speaker 1: You know? And and should say Devin with kirts And
Speaker 1: we're not Buddhists, like we do not believe in path lives.
Speaker 1: And my mom could tell whatever she wanted, like I'd
Speaker 1: walk away and be like all right, woman and say
Speaker 1: what you want. But you know, I know what I've seen.
Speaker 1: But I was just like a knowing, like I don't
Speaker 1: know how I know that I know there was I
Speaker 1: was get in college and city I I was going
Speaker 1: somewhere with a girlfriend in my car and with having
Speaker 1: some experiences. They were sitting there with her realizing that, oh,
Speaker 1: these different faces. I mean, it was kind of like
Speaker 1: all coming to me. Not that I wasn't seeing a
Speaker 1: lot of this us as a child, and I knew
Speaker 1: I was seeing people's path lives as a child, but
Speaker 1: I was sitting there one day in the car, and
Speaker 1: it was like she was showing me like two different
Speaker 1: let's just say, I know, with her sitting there, but
Speaker 1: the face that I would see on top of hers
Speaker 1: was like a faith that I recognized and I knew.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how I knew it, and I and
Speaker 1: I loved that person too, but I knew that like
Speaker 1: it was her, but it wasn't her. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that makes sense. I call it a cosmic basis,
Speaker 1: and that's a whole nother it's a whole other story
Speaker 1: and topic, and I won't bore you with it now.
Speaker 1: But she was showing me like a couple different I
Speaker 1: would say path life that, And she wasn't doing it intentionally,
Speaker 1: but I was seeing these two different path lives that
Speaker 1: we had already been together with and had been together in.
Speaker 1: And around that same time that she was doing this,
Speaker 1: she was having an internal conversation with herself. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize she was having an internal conversation with her THELP
Speaker 1: I heard it plain as day, and I was answering
Speaker 1: this conversation she was having in her mind with me
Speaker 1: that I was answering it out loud. And finally, at
Speaker 1: a certain point, as I'm driving down the road, he
Speaker 1: just like looks at me like I'm the craziest son
Speaker 1: of bit she's ever met, and she said, what the
Speaker 1: hell are you doing? I'm like, what do you mean,
Speaker 1: I'm answering your question? And it said, yeah, we're going
Speaker 1: to your mom. Putbay, dude, this this is this. You
Speaker 1: didn't hear me? He said, no, I heard you that.
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything. I thought it, and it like
Speaker 1: freaked her out, do you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: it freaked her out to the point I don't you know,
Speaker 1: who knows what you caught. But at that point in time,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute. The church doesn't appreciate this,
Speaker 1: my family doesn't appreciate it, and now my girlfriend thinks
Speaker 1: I'm crazy when I experience it, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I just sort of, like the best I can
Speaker 1: describe it, I sort of packed it away. I think
Speaker 1: I just sort of shut it all down, and I
Speaker 1: don't think you can completely turn it off. But I
Speaker 1: mean I did the best that I could. You say,
Speaker 1: you know what, it does not serve me. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: really doesn't. And it's fun to play it and you know,
Speaker 1: but nobody likes it and you just need to get
Speaker 1: me in trouble. So it wasn't until about twenty sixteen. Really,
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't say that I didn't have you know,
Speaker 1: I was fourteen. I thought you up. Well, I've seen
Speaker 1: different ghosts, so I can't say like it the gift
Speaker 1: was completely turned off. But it wasn't until an accident
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen that I don't know, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just it was. It was well, maybe Matt also be
Speaker 1: in pent around that same time at twenty sixteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I know I've rendered to you before God,
Speaker 1: but and I've given you, you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: different stuff. I quit the job I was doing. I
Speaker 1: started this job, you know, to try not just to
Speaker 1: serve myself but help other people. I was actually importing
Speaker 1: medicinal plants from all the world and telling him in
Speaker 1: one place. But you know, I want to give it
Speaker 1: all to you, right and wherever you say go, I'll go.
Speaker 1: And that's really almost like like like the Creator was
Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, you're back on board for the plan, right,
Speaker 1: the reason you really come here. So like I like
Speaker 1: I say, like I was almost like a five year
Speaker 1: like almost like boot camp. Like almost every place I
Speaker 1: went there had to be a lesson and experience that
Speaker 1: I had to you know, experience to get sort of
Speaker 1: back on what I believe is. I can't say that
Speaker 1: I'm critifically back in the Creator's plan for myself, if
Speaker 1: that makes sense, but I'm a hell of a lot
Speaker 1: closer than I was ten years ago, twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: and so there was something to me leaning into you're
Speaker 1: sort of if you will, to the will of God,
Speaker 1: right whatever whatever you want to call that. Where as
Speaker 1: good as I really did, that like the world and
Speaker 1: the universe really just began to open up, and in
Speaker 1: some ways some ways, Matt, it was almost like the
Speaker 1: the different I mean, I can call them adventures because
Speaker 1: there's so many different towns that I was called to
Speaker 1: and so many different opportunities that I just jumped on
Speaker 1: because I knew that there would be a lesson, there
Speaker 1: would be an experience there for me. But them was
Speaker 1: like in every different town and different every different experience
Speaker 1: and every different place that I lived, like the Creator
Speaker 1: was just like blowing my mind like almost like these
Speaker 1: little nuggets, do you know what I mean? Yeah, like
Speaker 1: little like a little like a little piece of the
Speaker 1: candy along my way that like, oh you know you're
Speaker 1: you're coming along the way at well here. You know,
Speaker 1: you think your thoughts you understood that creation before, let
Speaker 1: me blow your mind again. Oh you might you thought
Speaker 1: your mind is blown before, let me do it again.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Do you think your experience with the Bigfoot fan was
Speaker 2: part of that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, because when you have that experience, it really
Speaker 1: just like I said it, you have to consider a
Speaker 1: completely new paradigm. I just don't know how you can't.
Speaker 1: And and you know that I think allowed to. You know,
Speaker 1: there's that there's that old staying that the Native Americans,
Speaker 1: you know, who knows. I don't know how true it is,
Speaker 1: but I've heard it many times, and I do think
Speaker 1: there's some truth to it. To a when, if you will,
Speaker 1: Christopher Columbus right when you first traveled over here on
Speaker 1: the Nina, the Mina Santa Maria or whatever they were,
Speaker 1: right that that there really only the elders could see
Speaker 1: the ships at first, and you might say, well, what
Speaker 1: do you mean. You know, it's a big old ocean.
Speaker 1: You'd see this boxed sail in this wooden ship, you know,
Speaker 1: but maybe there's some truth to that, and that that
Speaker 1: full of something to even register in your mind. You
Speaker 1: have to know it's possible, right, you have to know
Speaker 1: it's there. So I think even like the Bigfoot could
Speaker 1: have just simply been again being able to just rip
Speaker 1: open that paradigm to where I was able to just say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: if that's possible and that's real, what else is you know,
Speaker 1: and just be open to allowing, if you will, the
Speaker 1: universe to chill me. You know, it's it's splendor, it's
Speaker 1: glory and all that's you know, a little quirkiness, but
Speaker 1: it has.
Speaker 2: It's just interesting to me that in the situations where
Speaker 2: you had the interactions with the Bigfoot, I mean, originally
Speaker 2: the events taking place at that property, where one thing,
Speaker 2: your reason for going there was something else, and then
Speaker 2: Bigfoot shows up something entirely different than both of those things.
Speaker 2: And then again whenever you went down to Texas, your
Speaker 2: reason for going down there, the situation that was occurring
Speaker 2: with this you know, dark negative thing attached to you
Speaker 2: or whatever, and then boom the Bigfoot shows up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've never seen a past life as a bigfoot,
Speaker 1: you know, my own, but I've had a couple of
Speaker 1: people said, Devin, you probably have a past life is
Speaker 1: a Bigfoot?
Speaker 2: You never know?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think I think it's possible. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's other things that happened. I mean, I saw my
Speaker 1: first UFO sitting on the ground too the third night
Speaker 1: I was out there. Oh wow, but that's another store. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you ever get a chance, Matt, and again I
Speaker 1: am not pushing eat Eddie, and I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1: And if you can edit this out, this pot out
Speaker 1: if you went, I'm more than happy if you do.
Speaker 1: I actually did volunteer there, So I went out there
Speaker 1: in the three days and just you know, have my
Speaker 1: mind just is literally like the top of my skull
Speaker 1: is removed. You had the opportunity, it just presented itself
Speaker 1: to volunteer there that next year until actually I went
Speaker 1: from share cropping out in Cameron, Texas. You got the
Speaker 1: opportunity and just be lined it out there and was
Speaker 1: out there for about six months. But I'll tell you what, Matt,
Speaker 1: you don't have to go out there volunteer there. I
Speaker 1: probably got more in that first three days. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got more in that first three days than I got
Speaker 1: the six months of this being there as a volunteer.
Speaker 2: Have you ever experienced any the CE five stuff with UFOs?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, up, good and bad there, good and bad there.
Speaker 1: I hate to say that, but it is.
Speaker 2: Here's my concern with all of this stuff that we're
Speaker 2: talking about, the kind of things that you're talking about,
Speaker 2: you know, the spiritual element of these phenomenon. There are
Speaker 2: people who aren't in the right place knowledge wise, experience wise,
Speaker 2: spiritually whatever, that hear these sorts of things, and then
Speaker 2: they go out somewhere in the woods or someplace where
Speaker 2: they think there's been a lot of sightings or where
Speaker 2: Bigfoot's supposed to be, or where they want to have
Speaker 2: a UFO encounter or whatever, and they try to open
Speaker 2: the door to have an experience because everybody just wants
Speaker 2: to see one. Everybody wants to have this experience so bad.
Speaker 2: And then whenever something shows up, they assume, oh, well,
Speaker 2: it looks like what I wanted it to be. That's
Speaker 2: what it is. And I think that can be very dangerous.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think intent it's so much of
Speaker 1: what we do. And so if as a shaman, if
Speaker 1: I'm going someplace and I want to have an experience,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty specific when I then I do my own meditation,
Speaker 1: and you know, say, hey, you know, guys, I haven't
Speaker 1: gone out back and sat back and watched because I
Speaker 1: meant out here, I don't understand how people get bored.
Speaker 1: All you got to do is look up at night
Speaker 1: and see all the friggin ships we've got out here.
Speaker 1: And on my hand to God, the last night I
Speaker 1: was out I counted thirty worth it ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I mean there was multiple and streaking across the sky
Speaker 1: at the same time. But then I realized that, Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm seeing so much stuff out here. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of ships in the US military.
Speaker 1: All these ships out here, I'm saying, cannot be our
Speaker 1: US military. If we go back and we look throughout time, right,
Speaker 1: even our own Bible. Well, we've got mentioned of the cherry.
Speaker 1: It's the fire. I tall a ship one night, Sure
Speaker 1: it looked like it was on fire, and it was
Speaker 1: fitting on the ground. It wasn't on fire at any
Speaker 1: rate in tenth so important, I think. And I'll also
Speaker 1: say that man, and I'm and I'm not gonna go
Speaker 1: any names. But you brought up the five, so I
Speaker 1: will say this. I do not do it D five
Speaker 1: protocol and I don't find it necessary. I mean, you
Speaker 1: won't go out and have contact. Just open your heart,
Speaker 1: you know, go outside, look up in the sky, ask
Speaker 1: for your star family, preferably and only of benevolent ones
Speaker 1: because I have had contact with not so nice ones before,
Speaker 1: and say amen, So it is, so it is done,
Speaker 1: but you know the specific with your intent.
Speaker 2: Tell people where they can find your channel lot oh, well,
Speaker 2: on Rumble it is.
Speaker 1: And I prefer Rumble. It seems like they play a
Speaker 1: little bit fair game. But you can find me on
Speaker 1: the you on YouTube, but it's face Light and Love,
Speaker 1: and I believe in Rumble, it's just Christs Light and Love.
Speaker 1: And you might have put Light and Love Healing and
Speaker 1: Training Center. You can always find me on Facebook two
Speaker 1: but I don't go on there as much and visit that,
Speaker 1: but it's Christ's Light and Love Healing and Training Center
Speaker 1: in Berksville, Kentucky on Facebook and if I we do,
Speaker 1: but web page up and run again. It's christlight onlove
Speaker 1: dot com.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Devin, thanks for joining me.
Speaker 1: Hey Matt, I appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 2: If you've had your own encounter with Bigfoot, dog Man
Speaker 2: or something else you can explain, send me an email
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