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Speaker 1: They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.
Speaker 1: Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you
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Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: They say you learn something new every day, and I
Speaker 2: just learned something.
Speaker 5: I think I learned it the hard way.
Speaker 2: John and I were having a conversation before the show started,
Speaker 2: like we always do, just chit chatting, like like the
Speaker 2: Fellas do, right, just the boys chopping it up. And
Speaker 2: I admitted something to John that I didn't need to
Speaker 2: tell him, but I don't know why I did. But
Speaker 2: now I'm squirmy, I'm freaking out, So everybody, well shouldn't
Speaker 2: s everybody? Maybe that's my way of thinking, like it's normal,
Speaker 2: But at least some people out there have what's called
Speaker 2: a phobia, and I legitimately have one. I don't tell
Speaker 2: anybody what it is. Because that's just an invitation for
Speaker 2: somebody to like test the levels of like, okay, really
Speaker 2: because mine's pretty weird. John, I'm gonna hope that you
Speaker 2: keep that to yourself for the rest of your repeat,
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life. But wouldn't you agree
Speaker 2: that's one of those things that like you would think,
Speaker 2: like wait a second, like not that you'd think I'm lying,
Speaker 2: but like you, you probably instantly thought, what has that work?
Speaker 3: That's not something that anybody would ever guess. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: is a phobia.
Speaker 2: So because of that, people wouldn't believe me. And this
Speaker 2: used to be a thing to where like people would
Speaker 2: mess with me as if like it was funny or
Speaker 2: maybe I was exaggerating it, and I would be like, no,
Speaker 2: if you, if you, if that happens, it's not even
Speaker 2: going to be something that registers mentally upstairs. It's just
Speaker 2: gonna be instincts. I'm gonna punch you, like It's just
Speaker 2: the way it's gonna be. But anyways, now as we
Speaker 2: start the show, I said that hadn't thought about it
Speaker 2: in a long time, and now I'm kind of bazzing
Speaker 2: out a little bit.
Speaker 5: But it's okay.
Speaker 2: Once we get rolling here, I'll be I'll be fine,
Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna say this, when it comes to phobias,
Speaker 2: if you ever get bored and you have, you know,
Speaker 2: some time on your hands, if you will look up
Speaker 2: all the different phobias out there, it'll blow your mind.
Speaker 2: As far as things that like, people just can't deal
Speaker 2: with that, like you would never be able to understand
Speaker 2: why or how. But anyways, let's dive in, shall we.
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Speaker 2: company man, mister John Alden taking you up until six o'clock.
Speaker 2: A couple of guests said to join us today, but
Speaker 2: I hope you guys will join us today as well.
Speaker 2: I want to make this show interactive. We usually get
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Speaker 2: get a little later into the week here. But coming
Speaker 2: up at three twenty, we'll talk with Kent Spencer from
Speaker 2: WHA eleven. Looking forward to catching up with him, getting
Speaker 2: his thoughts on mostly you know, the local teams. That's
Speaker 2: what we usually pick his brain about. And an hour
Speaker 2: later at four to twenty, we'll talk to Brian Edwards
Speaker 2: from Vegas Insider get his thoughts on a big weekend
Speaker 2: of college football and college basketball. John I learned, Yeah
Speaker 2: I should I should have. I mean, I'm the older
Speaker 2: one here, but your wisdom has has helped me at times,
Speaker 2: and I should have followed your lead when it comes
Speaker 2: to betting on college basketball because it's the ultimate guess.
Speaker 3: There's literally so much nonsense in the opening few games.
Speaker 2: And I literally said that yesterday, like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: who knows, but I'm still gonna do it. And I
Speaker 2: did it and it wasn't a big deal. I put
Speaker 2: like ten bucks on on the line last night overall
Speaker 2: and didn't come through. But these big numbers out there
Speaker 2: as far as and it really isn't like crazy numbers.
Speaker 2: I mean, did Indiana cover? I mean they were winning
Speaker 2: twenty plus the whole time, right, you know.
Speaker 3: They won by nineteen, and I believe that the spread
Speaker 3: before the tip off was like twenty six and a half.
Speaker 2: But were they in the twist as far as the
Speaker 2: lead for game around that? Yeah, I mean it wasn't
Speaker 2: like you were worried.
Speaker 3: There was a point. I mean it was twenty seven
Speaker 3: to twenty seven in the first half. Indiana played very
Speaker 3: sloppy in the first half, but they did, you know,
Speaker 3: make up for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would say if you're if you're
Speaker 2: a Louisville and Kentucky fan, you know you all have
Speaker 2: I mean brand new teams. I mean literally, like completely
Speaker 2: from scratch, both both teams, Louisville and Kentucky with brand
Speaker 2: new coaches, which I would think that that would be
Speaker 2: like the more difficult ramp up, if you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, once you get playing in real games,
Speaker 2: like it may take these guys a little more time
Speaker 2: to get it rolling compared to other teams that might
Speaker 2: bring back five six guys from last year's team and
Speaker 2: then maybe they got a couple of freshmen and three
Speaker 2: four portal guys, Like I'd say that's probably your most
Speaker 2: I'd say that's probably that mixed bag there as far
Speaker 2: as how your roster is structured, I'd say that's probably
Speaker 2: the norm for most. But what went on around here
Speaker 2: this past offseason wasn't normal, right because you had a
Speaker 2: coaching change and you completely built brand new teams. So
Speaker 2: for Louisville and Kentucky to cover earlier and again the
Speaker 2: competition wasn't great, but you know, you look elsewhere. I
Speaker 2: mean teams that some are supposed to be like Arkansas,
Speaker 2: I mean they were, they were they were never really
Speaker 2: able to pull away last night from whoever they played,
Speaker 2: and they I mean, they didn't look that good. To
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I'm not sure that you know,
Speaker 2: Villanova was expected to be good this year because they
Speaker 2: still have Kyle Neptune. You see, they lost last night
Speaker 2: to Columbia.
Speaker 3: I didn't see that.
Speaker 2: And then Virginia, I mean they ended up ended up winning,
Speaker 2: but you know, not covering against a really bad team.
Speaker 2: So back to the whole wagering aspect of it, Like
Speaker 2: it's just it's impossible to know right now. And yet
Speaker 2: I still am am am a you know what it is.
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm a degenerate gambler. I can't help myself.
Speaker 2: I just have to betting on college basketball. But you know,
Speaker 2: I used to be able to look back at teams.
Speaker 2: I used to be able to look at these teams
Speaker 2: that a lot of people don't care about, and I
Speaker 2: don't really care about them, but I just I follow
Speaker 2: college basketball closer than most just because I'm a nerd
Speaker 2: for it. But I felt like I would have a
Speaker 2: better feel for these mid majors or low majors than
Speaker 2: others to where I would say, Okay, yeah they're gonna
Speaker 2: get beat, but man, they ain't get beat by twenty nine,
Speaker 2: you know, something like that. And now you go look
Speaker 2: at these rosters at the bottom of Division one, mid
Speaker 2: level everywhere, you're losing guys like crazy. In fact, those
Speaker 2: lower level schools are losing guys more than anybody, it seems,
Speaker 2: because you know, I mean, there are now guys who
Speaker 2: will have a career where they played at like Coppin State,
Speaker 2: Drexel Florida A and m Grambling State, like four schools
Speaker 2: in four years, and they probably averaged seven points in
Speaker 2: one of those seasons as a career high. Like that's
Speaker 2: just like that's what people are doing now. So anyways,
Speaker 2: I'm happy that college basketball's here, but I'm probably gonna
Speaker 2: lay off when it comes to gambling until, you know, well,
Speaker 2: unless we have good games, like, for example, there's some
Speaker 2: decent games this weekend. Louisville, Tennessee is one of them.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna bet on it, but
Speaker 2: certainly a good game when it comes to early college
Speaker 2: basketball season and I'm not going to be you know,
Speaker 2: this is not a negative thing to say, because you know,
Speaker 2: the vibes are really really strong right now, seemingly all
Speaker 2: the way around, but obviously when it comes to results
Speaker 2: that really impact the vibe more than others, it's football
Speaker 2: and men's basketball, and obviously men's basketball dominant debut for
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey and then a big game coming up here
Speaker 2: in a couple of days. And then football, you've got
Speaker 2: the first ever win against Clemson and you're in the
Speaker 2: top twenty five of the College Football playoff rankings.
Speaker 5: So things are going well.
Speaker 2: But I'm you know, I am bummed at the bye
Speaker 2: week's here because I want to be able to you know,
Speaker 2: I want to be able to carry the momentum and
Speaker 2: not have a week off.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: Hopefully they carry momentum with them next week as they
Speaker 2: travel to Stanford to play allows these Stanford team. But
Speaker 2: you know, either way, like this is not good timing
Speaker 2: when it comes to the bye week, because they got
Speaker 2: their breakthrough victory, they finally got over the hump as
Speaker 2: for AST playing really good teams and you know, this
Speaker 2: time they didn't come up short. But it's all starting
Speaker 2: to kind of even out because I believed that Louisville
Speaker 2: despite their losses, Like I felt like I could say, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're a really good team. They've got some pretty good players,
Speaker 2: like some dudes that I feel like, who knows, when
Speaker 2: we get to the end of the season, you might
Speaker 2: start talking about those guys as you know, some of
Speaker 2: the best you ever had. You know, for one season, right,
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of guys aren't sticking around three
Speaker 2: four years like players used to do back in the day.
Speaker 2: But you know, you look at what's going on. I mean,
Speaker 2: you look at I mean Jacorey Brooks. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: pull up the numbers here, excuse me. I mean he's
Speaker 2: already leading the acc and receiving yards and receiving touchdowns,
Speaker 2: but he also leads the country in most catches of
Speaker 2: twenty or more yards, which is an impressive stat for him.
Speaker 2: Also an impressive stat for Tyler Shuck. I mean Tyler
Speaker 2: Shuck again. The numbers, the stats really don't really don't
Speaker 2: show it, but he's having himself a really good season.
Speaker 2: And Isaac Brown, I mean, he might be one of
Speaker 2: the best freshmen in the country. In fact, I think
Speaker 2: he might be. I think he is, And I think
Speaker 2: the results will tell you that. I mean, he's been
Speaker 2: sensational this year and he's only getting better. Like I
Speaker 2: keep worrying about him hitting a wall as a freshman,
Speaker 2: because that happens, and Jeff has said it at least
Speaker 2: the last three weeks that they're having to really monitor
Speaker 2: the usage because he's kind of getting worn down as
Speaker 2: the game goes on. Because it's so clear he's your
Speaker 2: best back and it's not close. In fact, I mean
Speaker 2: him and Duke Watson, both true freshmen, are your best
Speaker 2: running backs, and they're both effective as true freshmen, which
Speaker 2: I think goes to show you they're not your typical
Speaker 2: true freshman. But I mean, Isaac Brown is having a
Speaker 2: really good year. And there's a number I'm gonna make
Speaker 2: sure I get it correct, but take away just the
Speaker 2: whole fact that he's a freshman. If you just look
Speaker 2: at his numbers, as far as what he's doing per game,
Speaker 2: per carry, it's as good as anybody not named Ashton Genty,
Speaker 2: the Boise State running back. Like, so I bring all
Speaker 2: this up to say, it's nice to be you know,
Speaker 2: tab it confirmed, and I guess things could fall apart, right,
Speaker 2: Like you could go have a bad loss to Stanford,
Speaker 2: and we all know that's possible. I don't think it'll happen,
Speaker 2: but you know, anything can happen in college football. But
Speaker 2: as it's starting to kind of shift to where you know,
Speaker 2: we're no longer saying like, man, Isaac Brown, this guy.
Speaker 5: Is special, Tyler Shucks, wish we had this guy for.
Speaker 1: More than one year.
Speaker 2: Same thing with ja Corey Brooks. Who knows how long
Speaker 2: he sticks around. So it kind of felt like for
Speaker 2: a while you were going to be potentially looking at
Speaker 2: a season where it felt like you wasted some really
Speaker 2: special talent that isn't going to be around very long.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how long Isaac's going to be around,
Speaker 2: hopefully hopefully for a long time. But Shuck, of course
Speaker 2: is a seventh year senior, no more eligibility. And then
Speaker 2: ja Corey Brooks, I think he has another year, but
Speaker 2: he might go to the NFL. To be honestly, I
Speaker 2: don't know where he is on the mock drafts, but
Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't be shocked at all if he
Speaker 2: gets an evaluation that has him deciding to go to
Speaker 2: the NFL, because I think he's that talented. And then,
Speaker 2: of course, Isaac you know, can't go to the NFL yet,
Speaker 2: and I do. This is just a real reminder of
Speaker 2: where we are and how different things are. When you
Speaker 2: see somebody who's a true freshman like Isaac Brown making
Speaker 2: the impact that he's making. Our fans are aware that
Speaker 2: like now, he could mean he might leave right like
Speaker 2: he could have a really good finish to the season
Speaker 2: where you know, let's say his numbers get even better
Speaker 2: and Louisville wins out and there's momentum and they're talked
Speaker 2: about next year, is like a team that really could
Speaker 2: you know, make the playoff that kind of stuff, if
Speaker 2: there's that kind of momentum, Like at any moment, like,
Speaker 2: guys can just leave. And I hope that he doesn't,
Speaker 2: but that is that's the downside. I mean, Louisvill's been
Speaker 2: able to benefit from this more than's then it's hurt them.
Speaker 2: And I would say this when it comes to the
Speaker 2: whole Colin Lacy situation and just any other time you
Speaker 2: feel like, man, this portal thing stinks. I wish guys
Speaker 2: stuck around for a long time, Like I get it,
Speaker 2: like we missed the old days. But I would say,
Speaker 2: right now, Louisville specifically both basketball and footootball. They have
Speaker 2: substantially been able to benefit from this new world then
Speaker 2: the other way around, and that's something I think again
Speaker 2: you should probably remind yourself of that, just so you don't,
Speaker 2: you know, because who knows what life would be like
Speaker 2: for U of L Sports if you didn't have the
Speaker 2: portal in an il because at that point, you know,
Speaker 2: you couldn't you couldn't utilize things that you that you're
Speaker 2: utilizing now to go build a roster, to you know,
Speaker 2: to fire a coach. Right like if Kinney Payne was
Speaker 2: never was never able to use a transfer portal to
Speaker 2: build a roster, he might have been just given no
Speaker 2: matter what happens, at least three years or something, maybe four.
Speaker 2: I mean, hard to imagine that they wouldn't have made
Speaker 2: a move regardless. But like you've been able to benefit
Speaker 2: from a Jeff Brohm, I mean, I don't think he
Speaker 2: would be. If he's just recruiting straight out of the
Speaker 2: high school ranks, maybe he would be able to get
Speaker 2: some guys that could, you know, could really over time
Speaker 2: develop and be really effective high level college football players.
Speaker 2: But you know, because of the poor he was able
Speaker 2: to go get Ja Cory Brooks who was at Alabama
Speaker 2: catching touchdowns for Nick Saban and then he gets injured,
Speaker 2: gets passed over because you know what, Alabama's got a
Speaker 2: lot of guys like Ja Cory Brooks. So I hear
Speaker 2: you whenevery. You know, I understand those that miss it
Speaker 2: in a major way. But in the now, in the
Speaker 2: early stages of this new world, Louisville has benefited from
Speaker 2: it more than they've suffered from it. But anyways, that's
Speaker 2: a long winded way of me saying we got to
Speaker 2: worry about keeping guys around because at any moment, they
Speaker 2: can leave. And I would say that this week Louisville
Speaker 2: fans when it comes to talking about Louisville football and
Speaker 2: reacting to the Clemson win and still celebrating it knowing
Speaker 2: that the team's got a week off, I feel like
Speaker 2: of all the things Louisville football fans have been discussing,
Speaker 2: how they can find a way to keep Isaac Brown
Speaker 2: around is probably up there as far as one of
Speaker 2: the most talked about things. And I get it because
Speaker 2: you know he's special and you don't want to lose him.
Speaker 2: And there are many programs out there that probably know, Hey,
Speaker 2: that guy's awesome. We overlooked him. We could probably go
Speaker 2: get him. We probably have enough. We know his high
Speaker 2: school coach or his you know, somebody that's connected to him,
Speaker 2: and we know we've got X amount of dollars in
Speaker 2: an il. So let's let's let him. Let's let it
Speaker 2: be known, and then you know, you may lose him,
Speaker 2: like you like, at one point. I don't know when,
Speaker 2: but at one point will be like college fans will
Speaker 2: be well aware that it. You know, you never just
Speaker 2: you should never be surprised if anybody leaves, because it's
Speaker 2: just where we are and it's not changing, all right.
Speaker 2: So again, Kent Spencer gonna join us, coming up here
Speaker 2: in just a few minutes. Some other things I want
Speaker 2: to get into today. There's gonna be a live tiger
Speaker 2: at the LSU Alabama game, and I think that's badass.
Speaker 2: Reminds me of that old uh Mike Leach. I mean,
Speaker 2: it wasn't like a skit or a rant. It was
Speaker 2: just Mike Leach being Mike Leech at a press conference
Speaker 2: kind of kind of what he did, but he broke
Speaker 2: down like which live mascots would like win, like an
Speaker 2: ultimate survival kind of thing really, you know, stupid but
Speaker 2: funny stuff. In my opinion, like LSU can't lose at
Speaker 2: home with the real tiger there. I know it's Alabama,
Speaker 2: but like, didn't I just gearing. Doesn't that mean we
Speaker 2: have to bet Lsu? John I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: like Brian Kelly. I don't even trust him, so I
Speaker 2: don't know that I wouldn't make that bet.
Speaker 5: But the Tiger come on, Like that's that's the ultimate
Speaker 5: intimidation factor.
Speaker 3: I can see the Tiger getting out and eating Brian Kelly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lsu, I feel like the whole time he's been there,
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, man, they really are struggling. They've yet
Speaker 2: to get it rolling. But like every time I looked,
Speaker 2: every time I checked, like ranking standings, that kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: they're they're in a they're in a pretty good spot,
Speaker 2: all right. Also something else, uh when it comes Well,
Speaker 2: first of all, we haven't talked about it yet, but
Speaker 2: there's a really good Thursday night football game tonight between
Speaker 2: the Ravens and the Bengals. Will certainly talk about that.
Speaker 2: But Cali Perry last night, Like, if you're a Kentucky fan,
Speaker 2: worried that Cali Perry was going to go to Arkansas
Speaker 2: and finally adapt to the new world of college basketball
Speaker 2: as far as how the game is played, and really,
Speaker 2: you know, just be energized and hungry to mix it
Speaker 2: up and win in spite of you, to to show
Speaker 2: you that you guys don't know what you missed. You
Speaker 2: don't know what you lost in him. And I want
Speaker 2: that too, because you know, that would be fun for
Speaker 2: me to see Kentucky fans miss Caliperi and maybe be
Speaker 2: worried about Mark Pope. I don't know if it plays
Speaker 2: out that way, but cal and his press conference last night?
Speaker 2: Have you heard of me of this John, I haven't he.
Speaker 2: I think he think he's gone insane. Like I don't
Speaker 2: think he's re energized. I don't think he's focused. I
Speaker 2: think he's just, you know, losing his mind. To be
Speaker 2: honest with you, all.
Speaker 1: Right, stick with us.
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Speaker 2: A special guest, the one and only mister Kent Spencer
Speaker 2: from WHAS eleven, Kent before we dive in here, congratulations,
Speaker 2: I see thirteen year anniversary for you at WWHS eleven.
Speaker 2: Does it feel like you've been at it that long?
Speaker 4: Here? It does not, And I did not even know
Speaker 4: until a coworker of mine posted something very nice on
Speaker 4: social media about it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I brought it up, because what's your secret?
Speaker 2: You did an age in thirteen years? What are you doing?
Speaker 2: What I need?
Speaker 5: I need to know what the secret is? Man, Buddy.
Speaker 4: I try. I just try to keep the stress light, okay,
Speaker 4: try to keep the stress well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'd like to do that regardless if
Speaker 2: it had an impact on how old I looked.
Speaker 5: I mean, stress, stress will get you. But you're living
Speaker 5: good man.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you, buddy. I appreciate it. And let me
Speaker 4: tell you something. It's it's thirteen years and it's been
Speaker 4: a heck of a run.
Speaker 5: Good stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I if you'd asked, somebody would have asked me, Hey,
Speaker 2: how long you think that Kin Spincer's been with WS eleven?
Speaker 2: I would have been in the ballpark, but I don't
Speaker 2: know if I would have I don't know if I
Speaker 2: would have guessed thirteen, because again, you've looked the same
Speaker 2: the whole time.
Speaker 5: It's us. It's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2: So good stuff, and it was very kind of your
Speaker 2: colleague to uh to to put that video together. But
Speaker 2: that's that's what I saw earlier today that at the
Speaker 2: very end it shows literally thirteen pictures side by side,
Speaker 2: and I've I've never seen anything quite like it. So
Speaker 2: whatever you're doing, keep it up, man, Good good stuff,
Speaker 2: all right, before we get to tonight's big game in
Speaker 2: the NFL, because I certainly want to discuss that both
Speaker 2: Louisville and Kentucky season debuts earlier dominant wins given all
Speaker 2: of the you know, all the components here with both sides,
Speaker 2: because it's a pretty similar situation. New coach really building
Speaker 2: an entire team from scratch. A lot of these guys
Speaker 2: had never really played together. But I mean, it's one game,
Speaker 2: and the competition was inferior. But I think it's safe
Speaker 2: to say that that so far, maybe they are a
Speaker 2: little bit ahead of what you would have expected, given
Speaker 2: you know that it's all brand new.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I would say definitely. They both have passed
Speaker 4: every test that's been put in front of them so far.
Speaker 4: With with Flying Colors. Obviously, for Louisville, business is really
Speaker 4: going to pick up on Saturday, and then for Kentucky
Speaker 4: things will really pick up next week against do But
Speaker 4: you know, just just kind of starting with with Louisville,
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, you know, I think all
Speaker 4: everybody wanted to look at like, what were they going
Speaker 4: to look at offensively? Because the cards have been kind
Speaker 4: of dysfunctional offensively over the past couple of years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no identity probably putting it in.
Speaker 4: A in a very nice way. But I think, you know,
Speaker 4: all eyes were like, hey, what what's this thing going
Speaker 4: to look like? There? I know they want to get
Speaker 4: up and down. I know they want to put up
Speaker 4: a bunch of threes and things of this nature. I've
Speaker 4: been super impressed by the effort on the defensive end
Speaker 4: so far from from this team, and the and the
Speaker 4: makeup that the guys that Pat Kelsey picked up in
Speaker 4: the transfer portal. We'll see if that continues against somebody
Speaker 4: like a Tennessee on Saturday. But for me, like that's
Speaker 4: been the that's been the area that I've been like, oh,
Speaker 4: like these guys are these guys get after it, like,
Speaker 4: these guys are are playing extremely hard. So so for them,
Speaker 4: I think that's the That's the one thing that that
Speaker 4: I've kind of taken away from the exhibition games in
Speaker 4: the one game against Morehead State and then and then
Speaker 4: for Kentucky, they're playing a super fun style as well offensively,
Speaker 4: lab Butler just gets at you defensively. And I think
Speaker 4: Amari Williams is an absolute monster. He just like his
Speaker 4: game against Wright State the other night, like he just
Speaker 4: like he was just an absolute monster around that realm.
Speaker 4: And we'll see, like against a Duke, does that continue
Speaker 4: to be the case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know if if if both coaches
Speaker 2: here would have preferred to have the schedule kind of
Speaker 2: play out the way that it has, because obviously, the
Speaker 2: Champions Classic for Kentucky is something that they've been doing
Speaker 2: for a long time and it's a good opportunity to
Speaker 2: be weird to back out of it. But you know,
Speaker 2: both of both both guys are going to have a
Speaker 2: really early test to kind of see where their team
Speaker 2: stands and maybe both come up short. I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: terribly shocked if both win, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: but I mean, what's your what's your gut? Tell you
Speaker 2: as far as fan reaction, because these guys are on
Speaker 2: top of the world right now, and I don't think
Speaker 2: that we should expect anybody to lose their mind. Because again,
Speaker 2: if Louisville loses to Tennessee and Kentucky loses to do
Speaker 2: I mean, that's going to be the expected outcome if
Speaker 2: you're going off of point spreads and whatnot.
Speaker 5: But I'm I'm eager.
Speaker 2: To see sort of like what the reaction is if
Speaker 2: both teams play well and they come up short. Part
Speaker 2: of me says that could still be viewed as a
Speaker 2: positive and people would still have good, good, you know,
Speaker 2: good vibes.
Speaker 5: The morale would be up.
Speaker 2: But again, we care about college basketball around here a
Speaker 2: lot more than most and some people just can't help
Speaker 2: but lose their mind over any loss.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you to
Speaker 4: hit the rewind button just a little bit to last
Speaker 4: year and I want to say Kentucky lost a game
Speaker 4: against Kansas and the Champions Classic with that with that
Speaker 4: young team last year, and I think everybody like came
Speaker 4: away from that going, hey, this Kentucky team has a
Speaker 4: chance to be pretty good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kansas was number one, that's right.
Speaker 4: So they take they take, they take an l But
Speaker 4: like there was nobody down and out about anything, like
Speaker 4: if these guys, if both teams really compete and maybe fall,
Speaker 4: maybe come up a little bit short, like there's that's
Speaker 4: that's nothing to hang your hat on or or head on,
Speaker 4: like like I think that they'll both be be okay.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I I honestly think like Louisville
Speaker 4: has I wouldn't be surprised out of both teams, to
Speaker 4: be quite honest with you. And I don't know why.
Speaker 4: This is just a gut feeling. I almost wouldn't be
Speaker 4: surprised if Louisville beat Tennessee on on Saturday. And I'll
Speaker 4: tell you why. Number one, I think the energy in
Speaker 4: the m Center is going to be off the charts.
Speaker 4: Like the other night, you know, the lower bowl was
Speaker 4: completely full and then you know they were they were
Speaker 4: like some sprinkles you know, up top around. But I
Speaker 4: think the energy in the building is going to be
Speaker 4: off the charts. I think they're gonna be at home.
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna it's gonna get them juiced up.
Speaker 4: You know, Tennessee, and you know, I haven't seen them
Speaker 4: play this year, but I do know they have a
Speaker 4: lot of new pieces that they're also working with, and
Speaker 4: Rick Barnes has a style. In the last couple of years,
Speaker 4: it felt like they had a lot of the same
Speaker 4: Maybe they bring in a player or two, but they've
Speaker 4: had a lot of the same pieces back and so
Speaker 4: you know, that system is kind of in place. I
Speaker 4: don't know if they're still trying to work it out,
Speaker 4: because you know, a Rick Barnes coach team is extremely
Speaker 4: tough defensively and they don't give up a lot of
Speaker 4: easy stuff. But I think that they've still may be
Speaker 4: working out the kinks a little bit. So honestly, like
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be shocked if Louisville beat Tennessee on on Saturday.
Speaker 5: I'm with you. I talked.
Speaker 2: I talked about that a little bit yesterday because I just,
Speaker 2: you know, Tennessee. To me, they look like the perfect
Speaker 2: example of a team that is ranked where they are
Speaker 2: based off of a special season. They had a year ago,
Speaker 2: and respect for Rick Barnes, who's the most who's the
Speaker 2: winningest coach in the SEC in the last seven years,
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying like it's it's egregious, but like
Speaker 2: their top guy coming back is Ziggler, who has been
Speaker 2: there for a while and he's been a productive, really
Speaker 2: good guard. But you're right elsewhere, they filled their roster
Speaker 2: with some other transfer portal guys that really aren't probably
Speaker 2: you know, we'll see obviously it's tough to know, but
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that they were as highly coveted as
Speaker 2: some of the guys that Louisville added, and then the
Speaker 2: guys that they bring back outside of Ziggiler. You're just
Speaker 2: expecting that they make a bigger jump. So I'm trying
Speaker 2: not to get my hope. So I'm looking at it,
Speaker 2: of course from a fan standpoint, I know you're not,
Speaker 2: but like I kind of expect Louisville to beat Tennessee,
Speaker 2: which just makes me realize I'm a lunatic maybe because
Speaker 2: that's I mean, expecting Pat Kelsey to get that kind
Speaker 2: of a win in his second game, and knowing how
Speaker 2: long it's been since Louisville won a game like that.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, but you make me feel a little bit
Speaker 2: less like a lunatic. So thank you, because I just
Speaker 2: think looking at personnel, looking at you know, the two
Speaker 2: different styles, like I shouldn't say that I'd be like
Speaker 2: shocked if they lose, but I kind of feel like
Speaker 2: if they win, I kind of feel like maybe that's
Speaker 2: what they were supposed to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So and you know that has a sing and
Speaker 4: doesn't that feel good? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like, so I was at I obviously was at the
Speaker 4: Morehead State game the other the other night. By the way,
Speaker 4: you know, proud Alma Mater. I expected maybe a little
Speaker 4: bit more, and I shouldn't have because you know, Preston
Speaker 4: Spradling went to JMU, they got a new coach, you know,
Speaker 4: like you're just not going to be able to kind
Speaker 4: of turn the roster over the way that they were
Speaker 4: going to be. So they were not as good as
Speaker 4: I thought they would be. But just being in the
Speaker 4: arena and I and I said this the other night
Speaker 4: on the news, I said, you know, Louisville fans watched
Speaker 4: that game last night almost in complete enjoyment, Like it was.
Speaker 4: They were getting rowdy they were having a blast. They
Speaker 4: weren't like, you know, in the last couple of years
Speaker 4: they had some crowds that would would get into it
Speaker 4: and get loud, but it was almost like trying to
Speaker 4: urge something out of their team that wasn't there, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, or like, you know, you're you're
Speaker 4: going nuts because they're trying to come back from from
Speaker 4: app state and you just it's like a nervous loud cheer.
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
Speaker 5: Like absolutely, Yeah, It's like you're it's like a chore.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I talked to I talked to friends of
Speaker 4: mine that went to the game the other night and
Speaker 4: they haven't been to a game in a couple of years,
Speaker 4: and they were, you know, they were there and they
Speaker 4: were just having a ball. And I saw another buddy
Speaker 4: of mine who was there with his son. They were
Speaker 4: having a ball, and it was like, man, it's been
Speaker 4: a long time since people had this kind of a
Speaker 4: time in this arena.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And the one thing that I think will always stick
Speaker 2: with me this season is you're up fifty points, no exaggeration,
Speaker 2: and there's two minutes roughly left and you still I mean,
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey really doesn't have I mean, he'll empty the
Speaker 2: bench with some of the walk ons, but I mean
Speaker 2: he's going to try to go about ten deep. So
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna see guys in late even when
Speaker 2: they're up big. But you had a shot clock violation
Speaker 2: for the Louisville defense. They were still giving that amount
Speaker 2: of effort up fifty with just a couple of minutes left,
Speaker 2: and a lot of the fans that went were still there.
Speaker 2: I mean, they were enjoying it so much. As you mentioned,
Speaker 2: it was just a you know, people kind of got
Speaker 2: lost in it and forgot how awesome it is to
Speaker 2: just not worry about previous seasons or records or who
Speaker 2: you're playing, just watching your team play and with that,
Speaker 2: with that level of effort, and obviously they were playing
Speaker 2: really well, but they got a shotlock violation and everybody
Speaker 2: there was stood up and clapping like it was just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just seemed like a like a
Speaker 2: moment that you know, wow, like this really is what
Speaker 2: we will do as fans if, in fact, you give
Speaker 2: a good product out there and these guys play hard,
Speaker 2: and that's that's exactly what they did. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to ask you to like, you know, I guess I
Speaker 2: am going to ask you all lied what would be
Speaker 2: your guess as to what could be done to get
Speaker 2: attendance not twenty two thousand, but obviously it's been a
Speaker 2: big conversation. Games like more Head stayed on a Monday.
Speaker 2: The fans that were there the lower Bowl was pretty crowded,
Speaker 2: and they were they were into it, and I think
Speaker 2: they provided a great atmosphere. But is it realistic to
Speaker 2: expect when you play like I think Louisill could be
Speaker 2: in a much different situation as far as previous seasons
Speaker 2: that weren't nearly as bad and still probably have a
Speaker 2: tough time getting a real big crowd for those kind
Speaker 2: of games. I don't really think that it's it's a problem.
Speaker 2: I mean, some of it's a product of recency as
Speaker 2: far as the struggles that they've had, But I just
Speaker 2: feel like it's tough to get people to want to
Speaker 2: go to a game like that on a on a
Speaker 2: Tuesday or a Monday night when you're playing a team
Speaker 2: and you're favorite about thirty.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, so let me when I say what I'm
Speaker 4: about to say, I understand that I am not criticizing
Speaker 4: fans at all, Like it's your money. You do what
Speaker 4: you want to do, Like I get it right, But
Speaker 4: I don't think fans go to games anymore, Like I
Speaker 4: think they go to the big games, but I don't,
Speaker 4: like I think the days of packed houses for directional
Speaker 4: school games, I think those days are over.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 4: And I just think that, like whether it's ticket prices,
Speaker 4: whether it's you know, like the whatever the dollar is,
Speaker 4: Like you know, I kind of go back some some
Speaker 4: of it is like Alabama football, like they don't they
Speaker 4: don't get those kind of things for the directional school
Speaker 4: games earlier in the year, or like lesser SEC teams,
Speaker 4: like they don't did sellouts anymore.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 4: Kentucky basketball, they don't anymore, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like they don't, Like Rough's not packed every night like that,
Speaker 4: nobody's going games anymore. I mean earlier in the earlier
Speaker 4: in the season, like Louisville football was ranked in the
Speaker 4: top fifteen, the joint was half full for SMU. Like, man,
Speaker 4: people just aren't going to games anymore like they used to.
Speaker 4: It's just you know, whether it's whether it's you know,
Speaker 4: TVs have gotten really nice and and everybody's streaming and
Speaker 4: you can now get all the games on TV. You know,
Speaker 4: whatever the reason is, I just don't. I just don't
Speaker 4: think those days are are ever coming back now, you know,
Speaker 4: like a game like Saturday, or like when Duke comes
Speaker 4: to the KFC Young Center, like, yeah, the joint's going
Speaker 4: to be packed, But when it comes to the random
Speaker 4: Monday Wednesday games, like, I just don't think those those
Speaker 4: days are ever coming back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could not agree more. I think it's it's
Speaker 2: honestly kind of a generational thing. I think that the
Speaker 2: younger adults, you know, people between you know, mid twenties
Speaker 2: to to around forty, they just don't see the real
Speaker 2: incentive to be a season ticket holder, and maybe they
Speaker 2: can't afford it. I mean, it's not something that's super cheap.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of talk about lack of attendance
Speaker 2: because it is important to have, you know, good crowds
Speaker 2: and whatnot. But sometimes it's really not that something's terribly wrong.
Speaker 2: It's just I think society has evolved, and to your point,
Speaker 2: really everywhere big games people will go to because there
Speaker 2: but the directional schools, the ones that you know, you know,
Speaker 2: you can just enjoy in the comfort of your home
Speaker 2: and still cheer like it's it's pretty hard to turn
Speaker 2: that down for a lot of people. All Right, real quick,
Speaker 2: I want to talk about tonight's Bengals Ravens game. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the Bengals won three out of four. They've got a
Speaker 2: little bit of momentum, confidence level. I know you're a
Speaker 2: Bengals fan. They got a big challenge, a really good
Speaker 2: Thursday night game. But where is Kin Spencer when it
Speaker 2: comes to confidence level in his Bengals?
Speaker 1: Three out of ten?
Speaker 4: Just just just a three? You know, I think what
Speaker 4: is it? T Higgins is out or doubt for or whatever?
Speaker 2: I think, you know, yeah, Higgins is out. I think
Speaker 2: the offensive lineman that'd been banged up is going to play.
Speaker 4: Though, Yeah yeah he Orlando Brown, yes is back. You know,
Speaker 4: obviously the Bengals should have won the game. The first
Speaker 4: time those two played, that game was in Cincinnati. This
Speaker 4: game is in Baltimore. Like, it makes it so much
Speaker 4: more difficult, you know, to try to beat them there. Uh,
Speaker 4: they've gotten a little bit healthier on the on the
Speaker 4: defensive front. But I'm just you know, I'm I'm just
Speaker 4: not a believer in this team this year Baltimore. You know,
Speaker 4: they added some pieces of free agency. You know, this
Speaker 4: is you know, Baltimore, this is clearly like they're going
Speaker 4: all in to try to get a Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 4: They feel like this is their year. And I think
Speaker 4: they feel like, you know, they've made so many whether
Speaker 4: it's the off season or whether it's during the season,
Speaker 4: they've made so many moves in free agency. Like it's
Speaker 4: pretty clear they feel like whatever window that they have
Speaker 4: is kind of closing. Yeah, they need to make them
Speaker 4: and they need to make their move now. When teams
Speaker 4: do this, that's the desperate that's the desperation that's coming out.
Speaker 4: And look, they've got a they've got a really good
Speaker 4: team with a lot of good pieces, and you know,
Speaker 4: they lost a couple of weeks ago to the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4: You know, like they like they need to get this one.
Speaker 4: It's not just the Bengals are playing desperate. Baltimore is
Speaker 4: playing desperate. And so for that reason, like you're gonna
Speaker 4: have to have all your offensive weapons to give yourself
Speaker 4: a chance against this defense, against this team. I'm just
Speaker 4: I'm just not high on the Bengals chances tonight.
Speaker 2: From what you've seen so far with with the Ravens,
Speaker 2: do you feel like the I mean, they've had some
Speaker 2: really good seasons. Lamar's played really good football in those
Speaker 2: seasons where he's won the MVP, but they've not been
Speaker 2: able to break through and get all the way to
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Of course, easier said than done, especially
Speaker 2: when you're going up against Patrick Mahomes and what the
Speaker 2: Chiefs have, which certainly seems like a dynasty. But am
Speaker 2: I am I. I mean again, anybody can loose to
Speaker 2: anybody in the NFL. The Ravens have shown that three
Speaker 2: times this year, well twice, I mean the loss of
Speaker 2: the Raid to the Raiders and then of course the
Speaker 2: loss of the Browns was not expected.
Speaker 5: But I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like not to say that if
Speaker 2: they don't get it done this year, they're never going
Speaker 2: to get it done. But like this is like Lamar's
Speaker 2: playing better football than he's ever played. Derick Henry is
Speaker 2: still dominating as a running back. Like I think that
Speaker 2: actually kind of adds some pressure to him a little bit.
Speaker 4: Oh, I think. So, I mean, look, everybody knows, like
Speaker 4: when your front office is making these kind of moves,
Speaker 4: like those players know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like the.
Speaker 4: Expectation is to win the whole thing and do it
Speaker 4: this year. And it's tough. You know. The thing about
Speaker 4: it is is, you know and less and less Kansas
Speaker 4: City goes through like a really hard spot during this season,
Speaker 4: like the road's going through Arrowhead. Yeah, and I'm look,
Speaker 4: Mahomes doesn't lose an Arrowheads.
Speaker 2: He does not not in the postseason.
Speaker 4: Hey, let me let me correct that just.
Speaker 5: For a s one. We know who did it, Old.
Speaker 4: Joe Shisty got it done, but but he really doesn't.
Speaker 4: He doesn't really lose an arrowhead. So but but I
Speaker 4: think that, yeah, there is pressure to in order to
Speaker 4: get this done. But like remember last year they got
Speaker 4: to the playoffs and Baltimore decided to call like all
Speaker 4: past plays.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like the abandoned the run, abandon the thing
Speaker 2: that really got him there.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So like if they're if they're smart, right and
Speaker 4: they're there, they lean heavily on the run, game on
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry, on Lamar's legs and then and then play
Speaker 4: you know, use that for play action. If that's their formula,
Speaker 4: then they can definitely they'll have a chance and Arrowhead
Speaker 4: in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Good stuff, as always, can appreciate the time, enjoy the
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Speaker 2: it up.
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Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 2: So tonight big Thursday night football game, and I keep
Speaker 2: saying that, thinking, like, man, this is one of the
Speaker 2: best Thursday night games we've had in a while. And
Speaker 2: maybe it's just because you know, I know that locally,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of interest because of two things. One,
Speaker 2: there's a big Bengals fan base, here. In fact, we
Speaker 2: are your home for the Cincinnati Bengals, but also Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's appointment viewing for a lot of people,
Speaker 2: but clearly Louisville fans they are. They're taking full advantage
Speaker 2: of being able to watch their former Heisman Trophy winner
Speaker 2: put together really his best season he's ever had, and
Speaker 2: that's pretty impressive considering he's already won the MVP Trophy twice.
Speaker 2: But we were talking with Kid Spencer just a moment ago,
Speaker 2: and I think Kid is spot on that the window.
Speaker 2: It's not to say that if they don't win it
Speaker 2: this year, they're never going to do it, but I
Speaker 2: think that you go ahead and get Derrick Henry, and
Speaker 2: you don't know at the time when you do it
Speaker 2: if he's going to be the same guy, right because
Speaker 2: at any moment, man these running backs fall off a cliff.
Speaker 2: I mean they can Father Tom will take him out
Speaker 2: in no time. But that hasn't happened with Derrick Henry yet.
Speaker 2: And you've got your quarterback, Lamar Jackson playing the best
Speaker 2: football of his career. I mean, Dereck Henry right now,
Speaker 2: think about this. The Titans let him walk. Other teams
Speaker 2: didn't want him. The Ravens got him and Derick Henry.
Speaker 2: Right now, he ranks first in rushes, first in rushing
Speaker 2: yards and rushing touchdowns. He has the longest rush of
Speaker 2: the season in the NFL. He has the longest rushing
Speaker 2: yards for first downs. He has the longest scrimmage yards.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's having the best season of his career,
Speaker 2: it seems, which is rare for running back at his age.
Speaker 2: And then Lamar right now, I mean he's first in
Speaker 2: the NFL and passer rating passing yards per attempt, rushing yards.
Speaker 5: Of course, that's always going to be something he's elite in.
Speaker 2: He's tied for first in the pass and touchdown interception ratio,
Speaker 2: tied for second for passing touchdowns. Overall, only one quarterback
Speaker 2: has more passing yards than him. I mean, these guys
Speaker 2: are having the best seasons.
Speaker 5: Of their career.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think the Chiefs this year, despite
Speaker 2: being unbeaten, and this is the best start they've ever
Speaker 2: had in this era. In fact, I think I saw
Speaker 2: that it's the best start that they've ever had. I mean,
Speaker 2: what are they now eight or eight? No, nine to no,
Speaker 2: something like that. So like getting through this in the
Speaker 2: playoffs is still going to be really, really difficult. But man,
Speaker 2: I actually feel like this Chiefs team when I watch him,
Speaker 2: they seem a little more beatable than maybe they have
Speaker 2: in other years. But you know, they could limp in
Speaker 2: the playoffs and I'm still gonna need to see them
Speaker 2: go down before. I just expect it to happen because
Speaker 2: that's how special they have been. And really that Pat
Speaker 2: Mahome does in the playoffs, but I just wanted so
Speaker 2: badly for Lamar to be able to get over that hump,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't. You know, it's not like he needs
Speaker 2: to do that in order for people to acknowledge that
Speaker 2: he's really, really good. But he's done so much already
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Speaker 2: could make the claim that he is without the super Bowl,
Speaker 2: but man, nobody could deny it if he gets if
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