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Speaker 2: Welcome. In Wednesday edition of Off the Bench, Taylor Sharp
here with you, filling in for Jacob Hester and T.
Bob Abert. And uh. After two days with just me,
a Laundra decided she was gonna quit on the show.
She sabotaged the board. It broke yesterday halfway through. Luckily, guys,
all right, Guy Musso got it fixed. He's on the
board today and we got Cassie Spizzali Rare Trio here
in the mornings, the two most morning people in the
entire building. Matthew Musso and Cassie Spazzali had the privilege
of waking up today before the sun got up come
in to do the early morning show. Guys, how we
do in this morning?
Speaker 1: The initial adrenaline is wearing off and I've just started
started yawning. We got to stop that, though, because UH
got a long day till like this is the beginning
of the run here like it's it's a marathon today.
Speaker 2: Well, you don't have to do this show tomorrow and
no show on Friday, so sue small price to pet.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Cassie, what's up?
Speaker 4: I'm doing rough yesterday?
Speaker 2: You say this every morning, every morning you say this.
Speaker 4: But I have a reason this morning. Yesterday my class
got canceled, So after work I just went home and
took a nap, which means that I was like wide
awake in the afternoon, so I didn't go to bed
till very late. And I snoozed my alarm too many
times this morning, so it's it's a rough morning trying
to keep my eyes away.
Speaker 2: First off, I don't think you can snooze your alarm
enough in the morning. I do it three times every morning.
Those people are like, oh, totally. You have so much
energy in the morning, you probably set your alarm and
get right up. I used to No, the alarm sets
at five, snooze it, five, ten, snooze it. I get
out of bed like five twenty and out the door
at five thirty. And that's that's where we're at. It's
kind of a it's kind of a rush in the morning,
but it kind of wakes me up because I'm like, crap,
I better get going around, going to be late. But
you watched Nobody Wants This Finally I did. I recommended
this show to you two months ago, Cassie the whole season. Well,
how was it?
Speaker 4: It was really good. It's it's ten episodes long. Each
episode is like twenty five thirty minutes. So after I
took my nap, I was just like wide awake, so
I spent like five hours. I was doing homework at
the same time. That's a little multitasking, but.
Speaker 2: You still have homework. You graduated in like a month,
literally a month from.
Speaker 4: Today, really one month from today. I graduated. Hey showed up,
So I'm very excited about that. But no, it was
it was really good, and I didn't know what to expect.
Speaker 2: Moosh, you would love show. So basically, this girl runs
a raunchy podcast with her sister and she meets a
rabbi and they fall in love and she doesn't want
to become Jewish and he can't marry her because she's
not Jewish. Riveting stuff.
Speaker 1: So when you say I would love it, you were
being sarcastic. I watched it, and I love so.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I recommended this female centered show to Cassie.
She liked it. I recommended the female centered running point
with Kate Hudson to Alandras. She loved it. So, uh,
come to me for all your chef flick show needs
and apparently an expert in this field now, so you know,
we can add that to the resume of things that
I know.
Speaker 1: So we're excited about it. What's this one called nobody
Wants this? Yeah, I'm probably gonna watch that, but oh really,
here's do you like?
Speaker 2: Christ I don't know who the rabbi is.
Speaker 1: She can sing, she really can sing.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think she sings in this.
Speaker 4: This I don't think she does, but she is a
really good scene.
Speaker 1: She's a really good singer.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's Onna from Frozen, She's Onna from for Rosiest
What Yes, elas Idina Menzel.
Speaker 2: I don't know who that is, but cool, congratulations to it.
Speaker 4: Email Alpha from Wicked. That's Idina Menzel.
Speaker 2: Okay, Cassie, I know it's early in the morning and
you're not thinking straight if you think that I have
seen Wicked on it any level. I don't even know
what it's about. It's like somewhat related to Wizard of Oz. Right,
it's the preview. Okay, That's that's all I got. That's
all I got. Is that the one that our ana
was in. See, I know it was in it. Look
at that. I know one character in the movie. All right,
Look today, sports news wise, we got a lot to cover.
LSU baseball played a midweek game. Is Derek Carr faking
his shoulder injury? Maybe? Maybe not. We're gonna talk some
l issues. Bring football sac Maaggie's gonna hop on give
us his thoughts from that scrimmage on Saturday and he
was out at practice yesterday. We're gonna be joined by
Ali Kosell. Talk a little New Orleans Pelicans as uh,
it appears that they are hiring Joe Dumars as their
next VP ofasketball operations. We're gonna get into all that,
but before we do, let's get this show started.
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Speaker 2: The LSU baseball team got swept over the weekend against auburne.
We all know about it, right, We broke it down
here in detail on Monday. They got a win last
night against McNee, and you can sit there and say, okay, well,
you know they won their midweek game against a smaller
in state opponent. This was a hot team. McNee had
a twelve game winning streak coming into this game. They
were top thirty in RPI. Like if this season would
have ended yesterday, they would have been in that conversation
as an at large national seed. We talked about it yesterday.
They bat over three hundred as a team. They have
a three ninety two team ERA. This is a good
baseball team and LSU really struggled to hit the ball
over the weekend. Well, that was not the case last night.
LSU got started early and often. They played three runs
in the top of the In the bottom of the
first inning, Jared Jones HiT's a home run to right
center to make it two to nothing. Then Jake Brown
singled to right field that brought in Ethan Fry. Will
get to him, he had a heck of a night.
In the second inning, Jones singled again to left center.
This scored Chris Stanfield. That made it four to nothing
after the second inning and stayed like that for the
next few McNeese finally gets on the board in the
fourth when Edwards hit a home run, a two run
shot on a three to zero count two right field
that made it four to two. So, okay, the game
is getting a little tight. McNees might make a game
out of it. Nope, LSU scored four runs in the
fourth inning. Ethan Fry got a hit, Milom hit an RBI,
Jake Brown reached on an error, and Ethan Fry scored
Hernandez single to right center that scored Stephen Milam. So
it's eight to two in the blink of an eye.
And then after that LSU just kind of did what
they did. They added some insurance runs in the fifth
and eighth inning, so they did their job. They get
the ten to three victory over the McNeese Cowboys. And
look when I look at this game. I mentioned it yesterday,
the two things I wanted to see. I was excited
about this game because I said your bats were super cold,
your starting pitching wasn't great. On the weekend, you have
a chance to bounce back against a really good baseball team.
That's exactly what uls you did. I wanted to see.
I didn't want a ton of teen green in the lineup.
I get why you do it in midweek. You want
to get other guys experience, But as bad as you
were hitting one through nine for three games in a row,
I wanted your normal nine out there at least for
extended action, to see what you can do. And that's
what they did. And Daniel Dickinson actually led off him
and curioll Well Curie about at second. Daniel Dickinson led
off last night. That was a slight change, but I
mean Dickinson was in there, Curiel, Jared Jones, Ethan Fry,
Stephen Milum, your normal cast of characters was out there
and they all hit. Jarrett Jones three for three, he
had a home, he had three RBI's and he got
walked twice. Ethan Fry goes three for four, so combined
they go six for seven on the night. That's perfect
for right there in the heart of your lineup in
that four and five spot. Also, I wanted to see
William Schmid, Connorware, whoever was going to get the start
in this midweek get extended a little bit. I asked
for three to four innings. William Schmidt went three and
a third. Because I and Musso actually talked about this
the other day, like a Sunday spot could potentially be
open somewhere down the road if Chase Shores continues doing
what he's doing in that third day on the weekend.
Could it be William Smith, Could it be Connor Ware,
could be any of these guys that you've seen get
spot starts. You gotta find out. You gotta let one
of these guys who's going extended outing. William Schmidt goes
three and a third. He gives up five hits, two
earned runs, four strikeouts, only one walk. He was pretty
good for the most part. Connor binge through two thirds
of an inning. Connor Ware throws at third. Maverick Rizzy
came in two and two thirds inn six strikeouts, no walks,
only allowed one hit, no earned runs. I thought he
was probably your best pitcher last night. Cooper Williams throws
in inning. Jacob Myers throws an inning. You threw six
different pitchers last night, and only two of them gave
up runs. William Schmid gave up two, and Connor Binche
gave up one. Where Isy Williams, Myers back to back
to back to back. None of them gave up anything
on the mound. It was really impressive. You limited this
team to seven hits and they didn't hitting the cover
off the ball. On the flip side of things, you
didn't hit it all last week. Yesterday I brought up
how bad Lsu was one through six and really one
through nine all weekend long. You got thirteen hits off
of a really good pitching staff. Morgan park Parker. Morgan
got the start, he only went a third of inning.
You got to him quick. I mentioned the three runs
that you played it. He gave up three earned runs
and only a third of an inning. They wound up having
to throw ten pitchers last night, and you did a
good job against each one of them. We talked about
it yesterday. They you know, in midweeks, they typically only
go about two to three innings per pitcher. Anyways, six
guys win an inning, then you had three guys go
a third of inning, a third of inning, one and
a third and now that was your pitching numbers. They
really had to piece things together. So you saw a
lot of different arms and you were successful against all. Look,
there are two people in this building whose baseball opinions
I trust a lot more than myself. One is onn Palmer.
The other is the guy sitting right over here, A
Matt and Musso.
Speaker 1: Matt.
Speaker 2: What was your biggest takeaway from last night?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Big, biggest takeaway, I'd be a tie. I loved what
I saw from Maverick Rizzy. I mean, how can you
not That's that's what it can look like. That's what
it's supposed to look like when you're six foot nine
and at they're ninety eight. With the tight breaking ball,
I mean, the arm side movement on the fastball was
the best it's been all year last night, and it
played off the slider well. And because of that, it's
not just where that the pitch, that both pitches start
in the same spot, but it's because his misses were
small with both that he was just around the plate.
You had to respect all of it. The consistency and
velocity was very good from him. Haven't seen that a
ton so far this year. You've seen a few ninety
sevens and ninety eights here and there, but mainly it's
been ninety four ninety five A night ago on Tuesday
it was it was ninety six to ninety eight pretty
darn consistently. So he was awesome, And I mean the
situation he was put in at first, he came in
with two runners on hit, the first battle on a
breaking ball that just got away from him, loads the bases,
then goes punch out, punch out. I mean that that's
a huge spot in the game where that could have
gotten McNeese right back in if he surrenders a hit.
And then outside of that, Jared Jones obviously the three
for three night, he reached base five times, the homer,
the three RBI, that's huge. But more so what it
looked like for LSU offensively, they just they looked like
themselves again, they were much more in character. When you
look at the out distribution, eight ground ball outs, eight
fly ball outs, it's very equitable you're shows you're hitting
the ball on a line a lot more than you
were over the weekend, which was a big problem for them.
And you only struck out four times, so you weren't
expanding the zone or any of that thing that any
anything of that nature which plagued you over the weekend.
So those would be my two. Maverick Rizzy, that's back
to back awesome outings from him, and you were much
more in character offensively. They hit three eighty four throwns
in scoring position. You had, uh, two strike hits to
two out runs. The fourth inning you mentioned where the
four runs, all four of them scored with two outs.
The whole rally started with two outs. Was the Curry
el single that that got that going. So they were
they were really good like that. That's just what they needed.
And one more Taylor, I'll throw Jacob Myers in there.
That's uh. That's now two straight outings from Jacob Myers
with no walks and no three ball counts. One of
those in the sec one of those in the midweek.
I want to continue to see more from him after that,
because if he can, if he can, if he's figuring
it out, if he's figuring out and I consistently throw
the ball over the white the plate at ninety eight
miles an hour. With the tight, wipeout breaking ball that
he has, well, you just potentially found another weapon. Need
to see more. But that's two really good encouraging outings
from him in a row.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean you and I were talking about it
on Monday. I was bringing up the number of pitchers
you threw. Like if I would have told you, oh,
over the weekend LSU had eight relievers come in, you
gave up a total of two runs, you would have said, okay, well,
as you swept all it was your starting pitching. And
like you bring up Maverick Rizzy, the control is what's
always been the issue, Like the stuff's always been there,
and you talked about it. He hits the first batter
and you're like, Okay, here we go again with Maverick Rizzy.
And then he comes out and has like arguably his
best performance of the year. And I want to get
your thoughts on this. It's a lot of people complaining
last night of oh, you're having Louis Hernandez throw a
catch almost the entire game. You need to give him
a rest. First off, Kate em Beattie was a late
scratch last night, but also like, I'm okay with that,
just because of how bad he and everybody else, all
your normal starters were on the weekends one through nine.
Get him in there, get him hot again at the plate,
and I mean he had a few hits last night.
Like I'm actually okay with him in that situation under
the show circumstances. After getting swept.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it was it was good to
see him finally hit. Call him again because he had
been scorching hot heading into that Auburn series and I
mean they got him out of there. I don't remember
what inning Blaze Priester came in, uh, but it was
at least the final two, so I mean he did.
He didn't end up catching all, you know, all all
twenty seven outs, which is which is fine. And you
saw him get some run in Nickel in the Nickel Series,
in the Nickel Series, the Nickels game last week and
into Auburn where he kind of came in late in
the ball game as a pinch hitter and whatnot and
caught a little bit. So yeah, I'm fine with it.
I think they've conditioned him really well. Uh, to be
back there for long periods of times and a long
amount and a large amount of innings on his legs.
So I'm I'm good with that as well with with
Hernandez back there or.
Speaker 2: That'll kind of do it for your baseball recap. We'll
get into a little bit of baseball, uh, kind of
close out the end of this hour. There's a lot
of talk about people saying, Oh, how hot is Texas
A and M is that? Is that a team that
could get hot at the right time? Maybe not. You
go back and look at what they did over the weekend,
like the beat South Carolina, who is one of the
worst teams in the conference, but it's kind of the
way they did it. Like are they better than what
they were at the beginning of the year. Sure, but
it might be a little bit of fools gold. We'll
get into that briefly at seven forty five. Right, We're
gonna take a quick time out when we get back.
LSU continues their spring practice. They had to practice yesterday.
A lot of the talk is about the offensive line
because in the practice on Saturday that was open to
the fans. People want to talk about how the offensive
line got beat, what the starting rotation is going to
look like. I have some thoughts on that. We'll get
into that on the other side. Here on off the bench,
Off the bench.
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mixed in Off the Bench with Hester and t.
Speaker 2: Bomb Welcome back in Wednesday edition of Off the Bench
Taylor Sharpeer with you filling in for Jacob Hester and
t Bobb A barities done a little bit there before
we went in to break If you was on the
practice field on Saturday, not really a spring game, We'll
go ahead and call it a scrimmage for argument's sake.
Fans weren't allowed to attend. And you know, a lot
of the talk has been about the offensive line, because
at times they look good, at times they didn't, and
we all know that any offense is only going to
be as good as the offensive line. So I wanted
to look at, like, maybe what this starting O line
will look like at the start of fall camp. I
think you have a lot of talent on this offensive line.
You just don't have a ton of experience. I get it,
it's not easy replacing four starters. I mean, Will Campbell,
Garrett delling Er, Miles Frasier, Emrie Jones are all gone.
All four of those guys were really really good offensive line.
The only one back is DJ Chester, and there's a
chance he plays a new position altogether, so you're really
kind of breaking in an entire new five. Most of
fall camp, this has been your two deep with your ones.
It's been Tyree Adams at left tackle, Paul mabinga left guard,
DJ Chester at center, Cohen Ecles at right guard, and
Weston Davis have right tackle. Behind that, it was your twos.
Carrius kern, Ory Williams, Braylan Moore, Bo Bordelina, Josh Thompson
at right tackle. DJ Chester and Braylan Moore have kind
of rotated back and forth at that center position. When
Moore's I mean, when Braylan Moore comes in, Chester still
stays in the starting lineup. He just kicks out to guard,
which I'm good with. But a lot of people are
gonna say, okay, well what's your favorite lineup. Everyone's like, okay,
well we want more here, we want Chester here. Josh
Thompson's got to be part of the equation, like, what
what is your favorite lineup? My thing is, one thing
is clear. Adams and Chester appear to have spots on
this starting offensive line. They're the only ones that don't
sell about Josh Thompson comes in for Weston, Davis Cohen
Eckles bumps out when Chester moves to guard Ory Williams.
Carrius Kern come in, Braylon Moore comes in, But like
Tyree Adams stays in, DJ Chester stays in for the
ones most of the top. My favorite lineup, the one
that I would like to see come to fruition is
probably from left to right, Tyree Adams, Paul Mabinga, Braylan Moore,
DJ Chester, and actually Josh Thomson a right tackle. And
I'll explain what I think that gives you the best
combination of experience in a very young offensive line room.
I know we all have thoughts on Paul Mabinga. I
get it, he was not great his first couple outings
last season. First off, he's thrown in there during the
second half against Texas A and M on the road
in a hostile environment for Garrett Dellinger, that's really tough.
You're replacing a really good player. It's kind of your
first extended action. You're in a tight ball game in
a hostile environment. That's a tough ask for many one.
You go look at what he did the four regular
seasons starts. To close out the season against Alabama, he
had a PFF grade of forty two point one. It
was a lowis on the entire team, I get it,
not great. It was the guy's first start. At Florida,
it was a little bit better. Still not great, but
it was better at forty seven point three, and then
Vandy and Oklahoma if you go back and look at
those like they're in the fifties, in the mid fifties somewhere.
So he got better. Actually every single game from Alabama
to Florida to Vandy to Oklahoma, he was better, at
least grade wise, every single game. And we saw how
this offensive line performed in the bowl game. They did
not allow a sack and that was against the daver
Veranda coach Baylor team that had a pretty good defense
coming in. That offensive line was pieced together and Mabingo
was one of those guys. I mean, he was kind
of a veteran on that O line in the bowl game,
and they did a really nice job. I would like
to see Josh Thompson at guard because that kind of
seems like his more natural position, you know, whether it's
all these experts and recruiting the transfer portal, everyone said, hey,
he can play guard and tackle, but he's probably be
a lot better at guard. And that's great because if
he goes to guard, that means that Weston Davis has
done a really good job in fall camp. He's beat
him out at that right tackle spot, and you put
Josh Thompson elsewhere. That's great. Western Davis just doesn't quite
have the experience in your season. You were not easing
into things at all. We all know where you go
Week one. It is on the road to Clemson to
play the Tigers take on Dabosweeney. Like that's one of
your tougher games of the year, and it's the opening game.
That is a lot to ask from a young player
to throw him in there in that environment. Just like
I was talking about with a Paul Mbinga, I kind
of want to see Josh Thompson at right tackle at
least in Game one because of the experience factor. Look,
if Weston Davis ends up being a stud, it's even better.
You can move Thompson to guard. But I like Thompson
at tackle for another reason. You're a lot deeper at guard,
at least a body wise. Here's who you have at guard.
I think ultimately bring Leo is going to take over
the starting center position, So we could say dj Chester,
Carrius Kerrn can play guard or tackle, or Williams, Solomon, Thomas,
Cohen Eccles, Bo Bordelan. I mean, I just listened six
or seven guys right there without Josh Thomps and tackle.
Even if you feel good about Tyree Adams and Weston Davis,
you got Tyree Adams, Weston Davis. Carrius Kern's been playing
some tackle in spring. He can go guard or tackle.
Bo Bordelon could potentially move out to tackle if you
needed to. There's not a ton of bodies right now
as far as pure tackles on this football team. I
would like to see Josh Thompson a tackle. It didn't
even have to be in the first group. If you
love Weston Davis, that's great. You need another tackle again.
Adams and Weston Davis, if they're great, Look They could
be the next Will Campbell, Mrie Jones for all I know.
Put them out there, see what they can do. Maybe
they're your starters for the next two years. That would
be great, But who's behind them. You kind of have
a log jam at guard, and everyone's going to say, Ah,
you have no depth on this offensive line. Ah, you
have no experience. You have depth, especially in that interior.
That's why I was a little bit concerned of the
lack of tackles that this coaching staff are brought in
in the transfer portal. I mean, the only tackle you
brought in was Josh Thompson, and he's kind of a
guard and tackle hybrid. You needed one, because sure Carrie's
current can play tackle, he played more guard in high school.
Solomon Thomas, he's coming in. He's pretty much strictly a
guard at least right now. Braylon Moore is going to
be your center. If not, he can play a little
bit of guard. Cohen Eckles can play guard, he can
play center. Not a lot of these guys can play tackle.
So for that reason, I think I think Josh Thompson
at least immediately helps you more right tackle than maybe
he does at guard. And it's weird to say because
so many people love himcguard. But I'm just looking at
an experience standpoint and a depth standpoint. Maybe your favorite
starting five again, my favorite starting five Tyree Adams, Paul mcbinga,
Braylan Moore, a, DJ Chester, Josh Thompson from left to right,
because you have a lot of depth there in the middle.
You can still have Cohen Eckles, Carrius Current, Solomon, Thomas,
bow Bordelan, all those guys can play guard, but Adams
and Thompson, you kind of have Weston Davis as your
backup tackle. Garrius Current can be the backup at left tack.
They got a lot to figure out. Still, that is
obviously the biggest question mark on this team, no doubt
about it. I just look at it and I'm saying, Okay,
if you want the best possible lineup in three places
of talent, experience, and where you can gain the most depth,
I think that's it. I think it's Adams been being
more Chester, Thompson left to right. I think that I
think that that has to be your play, at least
early in the season. Again, if Weston Davis becomes a
studded right tackle, great, but you still don't have a
ton of depth there. One thing we do know, this
offense will go as this O line goes. All right,
We're going to take a quick time out. When we
get back, we're gonna talk about a Carr's shoulder injury.
I know we've already done it, but there was a
report came out yesterday from Diana Rossini and Mike Florio.
They like, maybe don't believe this is a legitimate injury.
I'm gonna dive a little bit into that, and then
an interesting name. According to CBS Sports, they put out
a possibility of the Saints and next quarterback. You guys
will find this some pretty interesting that's coming up on
the other side here on Off the Bench.
Speaker 3: Off the Bench, How quickly will this segment leave the rails?
It's Off the Bench with Hester and t Bob.
Speaker 2: Welcome back in Wednesday edition of Off the Bench. Taylor
Sherpred with you filling in for Jacob Pastor and Tea
Bob Abear. Te Bob will be back next week. Actually,
our guy, Jacob Pastor will be covering the draft in
Green Bay. Will he be out all week? I don't
actually know, but you're not gonna see a lot of
Jake at least in next week. He will be out
there for the NFL Draft up in Green Bay. A
report came out yesterday a little afternoon, and it wasn't
really a report. It was just kind of a story
of Diana Rasinia Mike Florio both giving their opinions on
this Derek Carr injury. We all know that Friday afternoon,
right during AFR, it was announced that Derek Carr could
possibly miss the entire twenty twenty five season with a
show called so called shoulder injury that may require surgery. Guys,
it's Wednesday, and nobody in this room has any idea
what is wrong with Derek carr shoulder. It's been almost
a week and there is no information about what kind
of injury he has other than well his shoulders injury.
I and Musso we're talking about it like we were
producing AFR on Friday, and I'm like, it's April. Had
you hurt your shoulder? What did you do? Did you
not know about this? Well, Diana Rassini and Mike Florio
they kind of think something a little fishy is going on.
So Diana Rassini said that she thinks the situation's u fishy.
He said, maybe this is Derek Carr looking at a
situation going I don't want the Kirk Cousins treatment. I
don't want to be your quarterback. You guys draft a
young guy, and it's basically, when is this guy going
to play? She said, I did have a lot of
text messages and conversations over the last few days about
the Derek Carr situation, and it was very hard for
me to find someone in football who said, oh, Derek's
definitely dealing with a shoulder injury. It was how long
have you been doing this? You know what this is about?
Trade bait. End of the day, That's what this is about.
Mike Florio kind of echoed something similar. He said, I
don't think this was a coincidence. I think he knew
he was injured. I think we all found out about
it thirteen days before the Saints are going to take
you door Sanders, and I think that at some level
he hopes it's going to screw up their ability to
take Sanders. Okay, a lot of people had a lot
of reactions about this report. I don't know how much
fact this is based off of, and I don't want
this to sound like I'm defending Derrick Cark because I'm not.
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned. I don't want Derek Carr
playing another game in the Black and Gold. This is
not really based on concrete evidence. I mean, at the
end of the day, this is Diana Rassinia Mike Florio's opinions.
Do I have any reason to doubt him? No, you
have any reason to just blindly believe them. No, it's
certainly a confusing set of circumstances. But go back and
look what they said. Diana said, I've had a lot
of text message conversations and nobody can nail down exactly
what's wrong. I understand that it's a weird situation. That
doesn't necessarily mean Derek Carr's faking his injury. Mike Florio said,
I think he's trying to prevent them from taking Shador Sanders.
Two things wrong with that. I don't think they were
taking Shador before this injury. Secondly, would not strengthen the
reason to take Shador Sanders, not kind of help them
back away from it. Like if you don't have Derek Carr,
I would think you're more likely to take Shador and
not less. Like, look, if Derek Carr is if it
comes out that he is lying about this shoulder injury,
cut him now, get rid of him, cut your losses,
move on. He's already one of the worst free agent
signings that you have ever had in the history of
your franchise. Get rid of it. He clearly doesn't want
to be here. He's not good enough to have this
type of attitude. If you were Patrick Mahomes, if you
were Josh Allen and you're doing all of this because
you don't want to mentor a young quarterback, it may
not be the right thing to do, but it's like, Okay,
we can maybe understand you've done a lot in this league.
Derek Carr doesn't even have a playoff win. Like, Derek
Carr cannot act like this. Did he make all the
things about the shoulder injury up. I don't know. We'll
find out in due time. Again, I know a lot
of people reacted to this report from Diana Verssini, and
I get it. The thing is I just kind of
look at it more speculation than based on cold heart facts.
I mean, like one thing Diana said that like I
didn't necessarily agree with she goes. She noted that it
is a quote fact that the Saints are on a
mission to draft a quarterback in twenty twenty five, though
she didn't specify what round they were hoping to make
that splash. Ye is that a fact? I mean a
lot of people like maybe assume that's going to happen,
Like you've heard Shador at nine, and then it's like, Okay, well,
maybe it's a Shador at nine. Maybe it's Tyler Schuck
at forty. Maybe it's quinn Ewers a little bit later
down the road, like maybe they like Jackson Dart, like
you've heard those rumors. But I don't know if you
can call that a fact. I don't know if you
can say the Saints are on a mission to draft
their quarterback of the future. A lot of people have
said if the Saints, like myself included, maybe don't want
them to draft a quarterback in the first round. I don't.
I'm I okay with a quarterback at forty. Maybe. Now
the Derek car situation certainly changes things a little bit.
We'll see what his availability is in twenty twenty five.
But next year's quarterback class is a lot more loaded
than this year's you can have the opinion that the
Saints are on a mission to draft a quarterback here
in twenty twenty five. I don't really know how you
can call that a fact. So there's a lot that
I don't like about this report, including the fact that
there's a rumor that you're starting quarterback is potentially faking
an injury so that he can be traded. That's another problem.
A lot of people have said, Okay, well, Derek Carr's
faking this injury because he doesn't want to be with
the Saints and he wants to be traded. Why would
you trade for Derek Carr now that he has an injury?
Like if Derek Carr's plan is I'm gonna fake an
injury so the Saints trade me, Like, wouldn't your trade
value be next to nothing? You get a big contract,
you haven't even performed up to that contract when you're
on the field, and now you're telling me you have
a shoulder injury that could cost you the twenty twenty
five season. What team is dumb enough to take on that?
And I get it, some quarterback hungry teams like the
Cleveland Browns come to mind, But I mean, are you
doing that like this again, Like if I'm not saying
Derek Carr is faking or not faking his injury, I
don't know he very well. Maybe I don't think it's
because like he's trying to force a trade. Maybe he's
just trying to Maybe he's just mad at the organization
and just trying to put him in a bad spot.
In general, I kind of feel like your trade value
would drop after this news of a shoulder injury came out.
I don't know about that either. But here's something interest.
Cody Benjamin of CBS Sports put this out Sunday night,
so just a few days after Derek Carr's injury was announced,
and he brought up Kirk Cousins and if Kirk Cousins
could be released, where could he get He mentioned that
the ultimate landing spot, his favorite would be the Cleveland Browns.
It's fine, Cleveland Browns have signed Kenny Picktt and Joe Flaka.
I don't think they're going to sign a third quarterback
in the same offseason and just don't see that happening.
He mentioned that Cousins in Stefanski spent a little bit
of time together in Minnesota before Stefanski took on that
Cleveland Brown's job. The next team he mentions is the
Minnesota Vikings. I don't think the Vikings do this one.
I don't think they're going to trade for him and
take on the big contract at Atlanta gave him. But
let's say for this argument, they cut. They cut kirk Cousins.
He's a free agent. He's no longer tied to the
Atlanta Falcons. Even then, why would the Vikings make this move.
They didn't go after Aaron Rodgers, and they talked to him,
but they didn't really seriously pursue him because they said
they like JJ McCarthy. They moved on from Sam Darnold
because they like JJ McCarthy. And kirk Cousins was already
in your building. You didn't like him enough to re
sign him. You let him walk in free agency. Now
that he had probably the worst year of his career,
you're gonna bring him back. I don't see that happening
at all. The last team is obviously the most interesting.
The last team the Kuldi Benjamin puts in there is
a landing spot potentially for kirk Cousins is the New
Orleans Saints. Now he does mention once again, the Falcons
and the Saints are not going to trade with each other.
I get it, you should not trade with your division rival.
Let all the other teams in the NFL do that. Saints, Falcons, Bucks, Panthers,
all of them should have that philosophy. But again he's saying, Okay,
if he's out right released, could the scene to be
a potential landing spot And started thinking about this, like, Okay,
do I want Kirk Cousins with the New Orleans Saints
as the next quarterback? Look, if Derek Carr is out
with an injury, there's no question, at least proven wise,
Kirk Cousins is probably better than any other option you
have this season. But does he make you better for
the future. Not really. There's been a lot of discussion
on this show about Kirk. O picks me, Jake. We
have vastly different opinions of him. Tibop kind of sits
somewhere in the middle. Alandra's I believe more anti Kirk
than pro Kirk. Look, we'll get their thoughts when they
come back. Well, we'll talk to all of them when
they come back. I can appreciate that Kirk Cousins has
done what he's done in his career. I think he's
had a really good career. My point with Kirk Cousins
has always been he is a very similar quarterback to
Derek Carr. In my opinion, he's slightly better. I mean,
because you go look at Kirk's numbers before last season.
I mean, Kirk is really good. He was averaging thirty
touchdown passes a season in about nine picks a season
for the last five in Minnesota. Really good numbers. However,
he had a lot better weapons than Derek Carr as well.
I mean, you went from Adam Thieling to Stefan Diggs.
You lose Stefan Diggs. Everybody said, oh, well, what are
the Vikings gonna do? Enter a guy named Justin Jefferson.
It's very easy to play with those weapons and in
that offense. Look what sam Donold did last year. Is
Kirk Cousins as bad as he was in Atlanta last
year eighteen touchdowns, sixteen picks. No see as dominant as
he was at times in Minnesota.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: I think he's somewhere in the middle. Do you bring
in a quarterback that's not young. It's about the same
age as Derek Carr roughly performed similar to Derek Carr,
he hasn't had any playoff success. That was a big
knock when you signed Derek Carr. Kirk Cousins doesn't really
have any playoff success either. I mean, he's not any consistency.
You're probably gonna have to give him a somewhat decent contract.
He's gonna want a multi year deal that you're probably
not willing to do.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 2: Sure, Kirk Cousins is a big name. He would be
an upgrade one. You're taking the Atlanta Falcons as leftovers,
which I know Saints fans are going to feel a
certain way about. But also, what does Kirk Cousins give
you that you don't already have? I mean nothing? And
I get it. Kirk had flashes last year. It was
the overtime game where they beat the Bucks kind of
halfway through the season. He threw for five hundred yards
in that game. But he's like, oh, Kirk Cousins finally
getting into a rhythm in this offense. It just took
a little while. He was benched, like three weeks later.
Pennix came in and they went back to Cousins, and
then ultimately the last three games of the year. It
was all Michael Pennix. Kirk Cousins last year started fourteen games,
sixty seven percent completion, thirty five hundred yards. Okay, all
that's fine. Eighteen touchdowns, sixteen picks and a seven and
seven record. And that's seven and seven record was against
Atdie Orleans Saints who had so many injuries, the Carolina Panthers,
who are awful, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who had
one of the worst defenses in the league. That's what
kirk Cousins did in the division. Now, he handled the Bucks,
but again one of the worst defenses in the league.
That was a five hundred yard game. As good as
the Bucks offense was, their defense was off even when
they were fully healthy, and they weren't healthy for most
of the year. I'm gonna say no thanks to kirk Cousins.
I know. We talked about Aaron Rodgers a little bit yesterday.
I said no thanks to him. I'm saying no thanks
to kirk Cousins as well. And I get it. You
go look at the free agent market. There's not a
ton out there. Maybe they do draft Shad or Sanders,
Maybe they take a quarterback that they really like in
the second and third round. Let them sit behind either
Car or Spencer Rattler this year, or maybe they don't
take a QB at all. They roll with Spencer Rattler,
they get a high draft pick, they take a top
flight QB in twenty twenty six when there's a ton
of them available. Whatever they decide to do, don't do this.
And again, this was just one guy's thought that he
had out there. This was Cody Benjamin of CBS Sports.
I get it. This is nothing concrete. There's no Kirk
Cousins to New Orleans rumors. He just threw it out there,
wanted to see how people respond. My responses, Thanks, but
no things. We're good over here in New Orleans. We
don't need Kirk Cousins. We don't need Derek Carr two
point up. If you're gonna do that, you might as
well just tell Car to suck it up and roll
with him. So no, no things on Kirk Cousins right there.
All right, Look, we're going to take a quick time
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Are they back? They got to sweep this weekend. They
beat Tennessee, Like, are they back? I don't think so.
I mean, they beat South Carolina, But we gotta look
at the way they won that series. That's coming up
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thing moot. Quick question, is Texas A and M good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're good. They're extremely talented.
Speaker 2: We know that.
Speaker 1: And their ranked preseason number one. That's what was funny.
They got off to the uh the rough start yep,
and everybody's like, that's fae. What are they thinking ranking
this team preseason when they were thinking they have like
literally everybody back from a team, a team that runners
up the runner up of the AFT, Like they're really talented.
Like that part hasn't changed the issue really was. I mean, okay,
you don't have your same coaching staff anymore, and you
just hired a first time head coach because the players
loved him. I'll say this, Texas A and M's offense
is back like they are. They are hitting on all
cylinders there, which was really the crux early while they're
pitching was awesome like it was supposed to be. Their
offense struggled. Now with their offense being back, their pitching
is struggling. So for me, A and M still not
playing complete baseball yet. The series win against Tennessee is awesome.
That stands out for sure. The sweep against South Carolina good.
You took care of business like you did what you
were supposed to do. You needed extra innings to beat
them in game number one, and you were down ten
runs in Game three and had to have a walk
off grand Slam to complete that ten run comeback. Like
that shows you the pitching issues your ace. Ryan Prager
has an ER of six point seventy five in SEC
games alone. That's not good. He gave up five earned
to South Carolina. Your Sunday guy in SEC, Miles Patten
is over his era and conference play is over seven
Like justin Lampkin, your middle guy has been pretty darn good.
But two out of the three in your rotation of
struggled in SEC. You have Arkansas and Texas coming up.
Let's see how they both of those on the road.
Let's see how they do in those, because that's gonna
actually determine what an M is playing for when LSU
rolls in there the third week of May.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like to your point, Okay, on Thursday, they got
beat eight to seven. It was a walk off home
run in extra innings. South Carolina gets blown out in
game two. I'll give A and M credit. There was
seventeen nothing, but again, yeah, that's when you go look
at the SEC standings. South Carolina's closer to the bottom, right,
that's what they're supposed to do. Game three, South Carolina
had a twelve to three lead in the bottom of
the seventh, a twelfth to seven lead in the ninth.
What do they do? They give up a grand slam
to make it twelve to eleven, then promptly surrender another
grand slam makes it fifteen to twelve. Today and M
win that game, sure, but South Carolina had an incredible
collapse twice in that series. I will give them credit
for beating Tennessee. They won that series. I get it.
Are they as bad as they were at the beginning
of the year when they were losing every single series?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Are they as dominant as people like to think they
are now?
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I think there's somewhere in the middle. But that's just
the team. And everybody's like, oh, well, Texas A and
M was ranked first and preseason, and you know they're awful.
First off, Texas A and M being a little overrated
in preseason not shocking in any sport. But also, they're
not bad. They were never going to be as bad
as they started this season. For the entirety of it.
The thing is how good can they be? Because they
dug themselves in a really big hole. Now you're gonna
have to dig your way out of it to try
to host the region. You're going to have to dig
your way out of this big hole. You look at
LSUE last year. Lshue got out to a slow start.
That's why you didn't advance very far in the postseason
because you weren't a host side in Texas A and
m a little bit bigger hole than you were in
a year ago. Sure they're talented, but it's Michael Earley's
first year as the head coach of that program. I
get it. You got returners, but you got to dig
yourself out of a hole. Are they good? They're certainly
better than they were at the beginning of the year.
Are they dominant? I don't know. We're gonna have to
wait and see. South Carolina's not a very good baseball
team and it took multiple miracles for you to win
that series. All right, Look, that's going to do it
for hour number one. A lot of baseball talk there
in hour one. In hour two, want to kind of
look at the quarterback situations for some other teams in
the SEC. There's three teams that want to highlight. There's
a good ride up about this on louisianasports dot Net. Alabama,
Tennessee and Auburn. We'll talk about that also, would you
rather Wednesday? Coming up at eight fifteen, Stay tuned, We
got a lot more. It's a Wednesday edition of Off
the Bench.
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