Speaker 1: Imagine trying to leave a warning not for next year,
not even for one hundred years from now, but for
people who won't even exist for like ten thousand years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a mind bending concept.
Speaker 1: How do you even do that? You can't use language right, English, Spanish,
whatever we speak now, it'll be dust go.
Speaker 2: On, completely unrecognizable, and most likely you need something else,
something fundamental.
Speaker 1: A symbol has to be right, so universal, so basic
that no matter how much civilization changes, no matter what happens, floods, wars,
tech leaps, whatever, they'll see it and just get it. Danger,
stay away, don't dog year.
Speaker 2: And that's not just a thought experiment that literally happened
back in nineteen ninety one. The US Department of Energy
actually put together this high level team seriously, Oh yeah, linguists, physicists, anthropologists,
people who study symbols. Semi addition, they spend a million dollars,
which is a lot more back then just trying to
design that perfect universal symbol.
Speaker 1: A million bucks for a keep outside.
Speaker 2: Essentially, but for nuclear waste very deep underground. The whole
project was built on the idea the explicit assumption that
our languages are alphabets, even are common symbols today, they'd
be totally useless in ten thousand years, obsolete.
Speaker 1: Okay, that right there, communicating across these huge gulfs of time.
That's the perfect place to start our deep dive today, absolutely,
because if we're spending that kind of brain power and
money trying to warn the future, well, it makes you
ask the big question, doesn't it?
Speaker 2: Could someone else have done the same for us?
Speaker 1: Exactly? Older civilizations, maybe more advanced once, maybe not from
around here. Could they have left messages for us in
languages or symbols. We're only just now starting to figure out.
Speaker 2: That is precisely where we're headed. We've got a stack
of sources here, really compelling stuff detailing these three big
mysteries that well, they seem connected, They span the globe,
they span millennia.
Speaker 1: So what are we looking at.
Speaker 2: We're going to unpack evidence of first, intentional cosmic messages
signals humanity might have already received. Second, this hidden geometry
connecting ancient sites across the planet with frankly unbelievable precision.
And third, these really anomalous structures, huge things suggesting advanced technology,
possibly hidden right under our noses.
Speaker 1: Right, So we're going to give you the key details,
the data points you need to connect these dots. Yeah,
because they seem separate, right, a space message, old rocks,
weird buildings, they do.
Speaker 2: But when you look closely, the connections start to pop.
Speaker 1: Our goal isn't just to tell you the story, it's
to give you the background, the context, so you understand
why these links are actually pretty significant mathematically and historically.
Speaker 2: It's about seeing the bigger picture emerge from these fragments.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's dive in. Let's unpack this. Sorry, let's start
with maybe the most famous attempt we've made to talk
to the cosmos. Nineteen seventy four SETI.
Speaker 2: The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. YEP, the pioneers. They gathered
at the Aracibo Observatory in Puerto Rico, which.
Speaker 1: At the time had the world's biggest radio telescope, this
massive dish, huge.
Speaker 2: And they pointed it at this star cluster Messia thirteen
M thirteen, about twenty five thousand light.
Speaker 1: Years away, and they sent the message a signal one thousand,
six hundred and seventy nine bits long, right.
Speaker 2: And the signal itself, it's brilliant conceptually. What's really cruful
about the receivent message. Isn't just where it went, because
twenty five thousand light years is, you know, a long
way off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not expecting a reply anytime soon.
Speaker 2: Exactly. The key is how they encoded it. They didn't
use English or math equations as we wrote them. They
use binary.
Speaker 1: Cloude zeros and ones.
Speaker 2: Zeros and ones, the absolute simplest structure you can imagine
on off, yes, no, one zero. The idea was, this
is the most basic, most universal language any advanced intelligence
anywhere could possibly decode.
Speaker 1: Okay, but how does a string of zeros and ones
become well, anything meaningful?
Speaker 2: Ah, that's the clever part. The number of bits one
six hundred and seventy nine. That specific number isn't random.
It's the product of only two prime numbers seventy three
twenty three.
Speaker 1: Primes numbers only divisible by themselves in one.
Speaker 2: So anyone receiving this stream of one thousand, six hundred
and seventy nine bits and recognizing it's likely artificial, well,
the most logical first step is to see if it
arranges into a grid, and the only way to do
that cleanly is seventy three rows by twenty three columns
or twenty three by seventy three.
Speaker 1: Ah, I see. It forces them to lay it out
in a rectangle exactly.
Speaker 2: And when you do that, this stream of zeros and
one suddenly turns into a picture, like a pixelated image,
a visual message. It was designed to be a sort
of cosmic one oh one teaching the ABCS, basically, kind
of the cosmic abcs and one twenty threes. It starts
super simple, the numbers one to ten written out in binary,
just to show, look, we get math, we understand quantity,
establishing common ground precisely. Then it moves to the basics
of our life. It listed the atomic numbers for the
key elements in human DNA, which are hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen,
and phosphorus HCNOP. The message basically says, here's our universal
math code, and here are the chemical building blocks were
made of.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. What else was in there?
Speaker 2: After the elements? There was a little graphic showing the
structure of our DNA, that double helix shape. Then a
simple stick figure of a human with an arrow showing
our average height.
Speaker 1: So this is what we look like. This is how
tall we are?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then a little map of our solar system, showing
the Sun and the planets, with Earth kind of bumped
up offset to show this is our.
Speaker 1: Home planet, pointing us out in the lineup.
Speaker 2: And finally a little graphic of the Arecibo radio telescope
itself to show them the instrument we used to send
the message, like this is the machine that sent this signal.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's actually really elegant. You break it down. Yeah,
they packed a lot in there.
Speaker 2: It's incredibly well thought out. But you know, we need
to pause for a second on binary code itself, because
this ties right back into the whole idea of this
deep dive, this potential ancient shared universal language. Oh so well,
we usually credit Goffried Leibniz, the German mathematician, with formalizing
binary in the seventeenth century. VanNess himself he actually said
he was inspired by something much much older. Oh yeah,
the Chinese eichin the Book of Changes, which is like
five thousand years old.
Speaker 1: The eiching, the fortune telling thing with the sticks.
Speaker 2: Well, it's used for divination, but its structure is purely mathematical,
based on sixty four hexagrams. Each hexagram is made of
six lines stacked on top of each other, and each
line is either solid or broken. Okay, solid lines represent
Yang unbroken, Broken lines represent Yang divided. Leibnanz looked at
this and realized the solid line is exactly like a
one burn the broken line is exactly like a zero.
Speaker 1: Whoa, So the five thousand year old oracle.
Speaker 2: System is mathematically identical to the binary code that runs
our computers and the code we beamed into space in
nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 1: That's kind of nuts. It suggests this idea of duality
one zero as like a fundamental thing sent off for ages.
Speaker 2: Millennia, which makes you wonder if it's truly our invention
or something rediscovered. Anyway, So we send this message, we
know it'll take twenty five thous years to get there,
another twenty five thousand for any reply, fifty thousand years total.
A long wait, a very long wait. But then the
sources we looked at point to something incredible. Almost twenty
seven years later, August two thousand and one, two really
unusual crop formations appear.
Speaker 1: Crop circles. Okay, I'm already skeptical.
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it, But these weren't your
standard you know, circles made with some rope and a plank.
These appeared in a field in Hampshire, England, right next
to the Chilbolton Radio Observatory, which is itself significant, right
a radio telescope facility.
Speaker 1: Okay, proximity noted, What did they look like?
Speaker 2: They were complex, pixelated, like they were made of dots
or squares. Yeah, when you saw them from the air,
one was clearly a face, kind of indistinct, but definitely
a face. But the second one, it looked almost exactly
like a print out of the Arecibo message grid, this
seventy three by twenty three layout.
Speaker 1: Wait, it looked like the message we sent, like a.
Speaker 2: Direct visual echo just acing while suggesting our reply, and
the sources that cover this argue you really strongly that
this wasn't a hoax.
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, crop circles are like ninety nine point
nine percent hoaxes, right, people have confess shown how they
do it. What makes this one different? What's the evidence
against it just being some clever humans?
Speaker 2: That's the key question. And the sources focus entirely on
the differences between the a Recibo message and this Chilbolton formation.
They weren't random errors or sloppy copying. The changes were
incredibly specific, complex, and seemed intentional, structural.
Speaker 1: Like someone didn't just copy it, they understood it and
edited in.
Speaker 2: Precisely, like they were responding to the content. A hoaxer
might change a few bits, maybe misalign something. This was different.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm intrigued. Unpack those differences. What changed in their reply?
Speaker 2: All right? First, big change? The little stick figure human gone,
replaced by a figure with a really large, bulbous head
and a small body.
Speaker 1: The classic gray alien look exactly.
Speaker 2: The iconic image often associated with say Zeta reticular encounters.
That was changed. Number one.
Speaker 1: Okay, what else?
Speaker 2: Second the solar's map. It was altered. Instead of our
Sun and planets with Earth highlighted, it showed a different
star system. Looks like maybe they're star with four planets
orbiting it and one of them highlighted as their origin.
Speaker 1: They're not from around here? Got it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Third, the DNA double helix graphic was also changed. The
structure looked different, and crucially, the list of atomic numbers
for the elements of life it was different too.
Speaker 1: How different did they take something out?
Speaker 2: They kept carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus, but they added one silicon.
Speaker 1: Silicon, yeah, computer chips.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but chemically silicon is right below carbon on
the periodic table. It can also form four bonds like carbon.
Theoretically it could be a basis for life, just under
very different conditions than Earth life.
Speaker 1: So they're saying they're silicon based or just that silicon
life is possible.
Speaker 2: That's the debate. Proponents of this being a genuine message
focus hard on this silicon point. It's such a specific,
scientifically relevant detail. Where they saying this is us or
were they teaching us life isn't just carbon based. Look wider.
Either way, it's a sophisticated point to make in a
field overnight.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay. Putting it together, it looks like someone saying, yep,
got your message, understand the binary code, good start, But
this is what we look like, this is where we're from,
and this is our biochemistry. It's like a critique and
a confirmation rolled into one.
Speaker 2: That's exactly the interpretation. The theory is this was meant
to say, hey, humanity, you're on the right track using
binary keep going. It validates the whole SETI approach.
Speaker 1: But it leaves the massive question hanging, doesn't it If
this wasn't a hoax? Who or what could create such
a huge, incredibly precise, scientifically detailed image in a field
practically overnight, right next to a radio telescope.
Speaker 2: Exactly The sophistication, the location, the timing, The sources argue,
it points to something far beyond pranksters. It's suggests a deliberate,
intelligent response connected somehow to that original RCIBO transmission.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if binary is maybe one unif versal language,
math or what some symbols pictures, could there be a
visual language that works across time, maybe even better than
radio waves or code.
Speaker 2: That's exactly where the research goes next, and it pushes
archaeology into some really interesting territory. How so, Well, in
twenty fourteen, NASA and SETI scientists actually co publish this
huge three hundred and thirty page manual get this title, Archaeology,
Anthropology and Interstellar Communication.
Speaker 1: Wow, NASA is thinking about archaeology for alien contact.
Speaker 2: Explicitly. The whole point of this document was to say, look,
we need to think beyond just radio signals and binary.
They argued, researchers should start seriously examining non technological stuff,
things that.
Speaker 1: Last and what do they point to what lasts rock?
Speaker 2: The ancient rock art carvings Petrick lifts. The manual specifically
mentions neolithic examples like these carvings up in north Northumberland
and England. But then it makes the crucial point, similar symbols,
similar Patrick lifts. They show up all over the.
Speaker 1: World like independently or are they suggesting a connection?
Speaker 2: They lean towards a connection, suggesting a parallel origin or plan.
That's the core question here. Why do we see the
same symbols popping up in ancient cultures that were supposedly
totally isolated thousands of years ago, separated by oceans. How
did they end up carving similar things unless they.
Speaker 1: Weren't so isolated, or they got the ideas from the
same plate exactly.
Speaker 2: The document basically argues if some advanced intelligence wanted to
leave a message that would last, they wouldn't use radio
waves that fade, They'd carve it into rock. Yeah, durllable
universal media.
Speaker 1: It's like the ultimate hard drive and repetition. Seeing the
same symbol again and again. That's a powerful way to
make sure something gets noticed.
Speaker 2: Right, definitely and one of the most fascinating recurring symbols
globally is the image of intertwined snakes.
Speaker 1: Like the medical symbol.
Speaker 2: The caduceis exactly like the caduceis carried by the Greek
god Hermes. But you see it way earlier too. Depictions
of the ancient Sumerian god and Ingyshida often show him
with intertwined serpents, and he was associated with fertility, healing,
the underworld, essentially creation and biological process. And visually it
looks uncannily like a representation of a DNA double helix.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, intertwined sakes keealing daily. That's a leap, But visually, yeah,
I can see it.
Speaker 2: It's not just a random motif either. It's often linked
to objects seen as holding power. Take this huge stone
egg for example. It's in the Legos Museum in southern Portugal,
six feet long, maybe seven thousand years old.
Speaker 1: A stone egg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and right down the center there's this carving that
looks just like that double helix, or maybe a rod
a staff. The ancients almost universally associated rods and staffs
with power, creation, divine authority, So.
Speaker 1: The ancient astronaut theory would jump.
Speaker 2: On this absolutely. They draw a direct line they say,
this recurring double helix symbol isn't coincidence. It reflects advanced beings,
maybe extraterrestrials who came here thousands of years ago, understood biology,
maybe even tinkered with our genetic and left this symbol
a stylized picture of our own DNA as a kind
of signature, a lasting clue.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a heavy implication. Let's pivot to something more recent,
but maybe just as strange. This Roswell rock.
Speaker 2: Right. So, two thousand and four, a guy named Robert
Ridge is out hiking or exploring in the desert near
the famous Roswell crash site from forty seven, and he
finds this small rock sticking out of the sand.
Speaker 1: Just a rock. What's special about it?
Speaker 2: Several things jumped out immediately. First, its shape and composition.
It's triangular, really uniform in color, smooth, and it has
weird magnetic properties. Ridge found he could pick it up
with a strong magnet.
Speaker 1: Huh, Like there's metal in it.
Speaker 2: Possibly. But the really striking thing is the design on
its surface. It's a circular pattern, but instead of being
carved into the rock like you expect, the design actually
sticks out slightly. It protrudes from the surface like it
was molded or grown exactly, that's the question. But here's
the kicker, the thing that makes this more than just
a weird rock. These specific pattern on it, sort of
a sun and a moon inside concentric circles. It precisely
matches a crop.
Speaker 1: Circle formation another crop circle.
Speaker 2: One that appeared in southern England back in nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1: Wait, the crop circle appeared before the rock.
Speaker 2: Was found, eight years before nineteen ninety six for the
crop circle, two thousand and four for the rock discovery,
and the patterns are identical.
Speaker 1: Okay, my hoax alarm is ringing again. Someone makes the
crop circle, then years later carves a matching rock and
plants it near Roswell to make it look mysterious. Easy pasy.
Speaker 2: That's the immediate logical conclusion, right, a sand blasted fake.
But this is where the investigation gets interesting, and the
sources really dig in.
Speaker 1: What do they find.
Speaker 2: Researchers, including the investigative journalist Linda Milton Howe, got involved.
They didn't just look at it. They commissioned a detailed
three D c scan specifically to see if it was faked.
Speaker 1: Like looking for glue lines, or tool.
Speaker 2: Marks exactly, or a hidden magnet or different material density.
But the scan showed the symbol wasn't just on the rock,
It was an integrated part of the rock structure, molecularly
part of it. It wasn't painted on, wasn't glued on,
no hidden magnet, So.
Speaker 1: The pattern goes all the way through or it's part
of the stone.
Speaker 2: Itself, part of the stone itself. They also did microscopic
analysis comparing the Roswell rock to a replica someone made
using sand blasting. Under magnification. The replica showed crushed, broken
crystals where the sand blasting hit. The real rock showed smooth,
uniform crystal structure right up to and including the raised symbol,
like it's formed that way.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's harder to explain away. If it's a hoax,
the hoaxer needed technology way beyond simple carving or sand blasting,
something that could manipulate the rock at a molecular.
Speaker 2: Level, which suggests, you know, a very high level of technology.
The rock itself is the message, not just the pattern
on it.
Speaker 1: So what's the message supposed to be? According to Linda
Molton Howe.
Speaker 2: She's convinced it's deliberate a lesson using universal symbols suns, moons, circles,
things any intelligence would recognize. She thinks it's meant to
teach us about celestial mechanics astronomy, representing past, present, future movements.
A kind of cosmic primer left behind.
Speaker 1: This idea of preserving universal knowledge, h celestial knowledge. It
connects to something else, doesn't It groups throughout history obsessed
with hidden wisdom with light, like the Free Basins.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it might seem like a jump from a weird
rock in New Mexico to guys and aprons, but there's
a thematic link through the search for higher knowledge as well.
The Freemasons, especially during the Enlightenment in the eighteenth century,
were all about acquiring knowledge scientifically, spiritually, and part of
that explicitly was considering the plurality.
Speaker 1: Of worlds meaning aliens.
Speaker 2: Essentially, yeah, the belief that life wasn't unique to Earth,
that it was likely abundant in the cosmos, and that
wisdom might come from elsewhere. And this wasn't just some
fringe idea, not at all. Look at the founding of
the United States. The sources point out nine of the
fifty six guys who signed the Declaration of Independence were Masons.
Thirteen of the thirty nine who signed the Constitution were Masons.
That's a significant influence.
Speaker 1: So their ideas, their symbols would have filtered into the
new nation.
Speaker 2: Woven write in. Think about Washington, DC's layout, the architecture,
the core Masonic symbols, the square for wisdom and morality,
the compass for individual limits and knowledge. Everywhere that letter
G you often see stands for geometry, or more profoundly,
the grand architect of.
Speaker 1: The universe, the kind of impersonal, universal intelligence behind everything.
Speaker 2: Exactly and where did they get their inspiration? What symbols
did they bring to America? The sphynx, the obelisk, the.
Speaker 1: Pyramid, ancient Egyptian icons.
Speaker 2: Ray, and the most famous one, the all Seeing Eye,
the Eye of Providence sitting right on top of the pyramid,
on the Great Seal on the back of the US
dollar bill.
Speaker 1: So the argument is the founding fathers were using these
ancient symbols because they believe they tapped into some older
higher wisdom guiding light.
Speaker 2: That's the theory that they saw the American project as
being guided by this providence, this universal intelligence, the same
intelligence perhaps that inspired the ancient Egyptians is trying to
connect to that source code, so to speak.
Speaker 1: Okay, but where's the explicit link to well to offworld stuff.
That feels like a big step.
Speaker 2: There is one piece of evidence, really provocative, tucked away
in the Library of Congress. It's a lithograph from eighteen
sixty six. It depicts George Washington as a freemason.
Speaker 1: Okay, standard enough image.
Speaker 2: Probably mostly, but look closely over Washington's shoulder, there's Jacob's ladder.
You know, the biblical story, the latter connecting Earth to Heaven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, angels going up and down, right.
Speaker 2: But in this Masonic version, the latter isn't going up
to clouds or God in the traditional sense. It's ascending
towards a dark, round object in the night sky. And
this object is emitting bright, multicolored lights.
Speaker 1: Seriously, it shows the UFO.
Speaker 2: It looks strikingly like what we'd call UFO today. It's
a visual interpretation suggesting that maybe the ultimate source of
that Masonic light, that enlightenment they were seeking, maybe it
wasn't just divine in the old sense, maybe it was extraterrestrial.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we've gone from messages in code to symbols
in rock to maybe even symbols embedded in national identity.
Now the biggest message board of all the planet itself, exactly.
Speaker 2: We're moving into global geometry now, the idea that ancient
sites weren't just plumped down randomly, but placed according to
some massive, deliberate planetary design.
Speaker 1: How does that work?
Speaker 2: Like lazy lines, sort of related, but more mathematically rigorous.
We're talking about geodesic lines.
Speaker 1: Geodesic Okay, refresh my memory on that simplest.
Speaker 2: Way to think of it. It's the shortest possible path
between two points on a sphere, like stretching a string
tight across a globe. On a flat map, it might
look curved, but on the actual Earth, it's a perfectly
straight line.
Speaker 1: Got it, straight line on a round.
Speaker 2: Surface, right, And this researcher Jim Allison started plowing outing
major ancient sites on a globe and he found something
well bizarre. Three incredibly important, incredibly isolated sites, which one
is the Moai statues on Easter Island way out in
the Pacific, the Inca city of Machupicchu high in the Andes,
and Mohenjo Daro, a major site of the ancient Indus Valley,
civilization in Pakistan. Three corners of the ancient world.
Speaker 1: Okay, what about them?
Speaker 2: They all fall on a single, mathematically precise geodesic line.
Wrap that line around the center of the Earth, and boom,
it hits all three.
Speaker 1: Just those three. That could be a coincidence.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what you'd think initially, three points make a line.
But here's where it gets wild. If you allow for
a tiny margin of ara, like less than one tenth
of one degree, which is basically the width of the
line itself on a global map, that same line also
goes directly through or extremely close to a whole bunch
of other major ancient power centers.
Speaker 1: Oh really like what?
Speaker 2: Okay, buckle up? The Giza Plateau in Egypt, the Nauzga
lines in Peru, the massive Temple complex in Cambodia, the
ancient Sumerian city of Er in Mesopotamia, Petra, the city
carved from rock and Jordan, Persepolis, the ceremonial capital of
ancient Persia.
Speaker 1: Well whoa well hold on Giza, Nasca, and Korwat Er.
These are, like the a list of ancient mysteries, all
on the same straight line around the Earth.
Speaker 2: Pretty much give it, take that tiny fraction of a degree.
We're talking about the most significant, complex, often astronomically aligned
sites of the ancient world, all tracing this one specific
path across the globe.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have to push back here a little. How
sure are we this isn't just cherry picking sites. If
you take any fifteen major sites, couldn't you find some
line that connects a few of them, especially if you
allow a margin of error? What makes this alignment special?
Speaker 2: That's a fair challenge. The sources that promote Allison's work
address this. They argue the selection wasn't random. They focused
on sites known for massive construction, complex engineering, or clear
astronomical significance, not just any old ruin, and the precision
across such a vast distances is the key. Statisticians have
looked at the probability of this many major, widely separated
sites lining up this accurately just by chance. The odds
are well astronomical vanishingly small.
Speaker 1: So the implication is what it wasn't chance, it was planned.
Speaker 2: That's the conclusion they draw. Such precision on a global
scale suggests someone had a planetary perspective, someone capable of
flight or at least working from incredibly accurate global maps.
How could ancient cultures supposedly disconnect it thousands of years
and miles apart, all decide to build the most sacred
places along this one specific and visible line unless.
Speaker 1: They were all working from the same blueprint or being
guided by the same architects.
Speaker 2: Or they inherited a map, a map left by some
earlier maybe global civilization that understood geodesics, maybe even understood
Earth's energy grid. Perhaps that line isn't just geometrically significant,
maybe it has specific energetic properties.
Speaker 1: Okay, mind slightly blown. If we zoom in from the
global line to the sites themselves you mentioned astronomical alignments earlier.
Giza is the classic example.
Speaker 2: Right, Absolutely, everyone knows the three Great Pyramids, but their
layout isn't random relative to each other. They perfectly mirror
the three belt stars of the constellation Orion.
Speaker 1: I've heard that. How exact is it?
Speaker 2: It's incredibly specific. Orion's belt has two bright stars in
a line and a third star Mintaca that's slightly dimmer
and offset just a bit. The Giza pyramids match that exactly,
two large pyramids on a diagonal and the third Mencar's
pyramid slightly smaller and offset from that line, just like
the stars.
Speaker 1: To do that, Yeah, you'd need pretty advanced astronomy and
surveying skills, right, especially forty five hundred.
Speaker 2: Years ago according to the standard historical timeline. Yes, skills
they supposedly didn't have. And Giza isn't alone this pattern
mapping constellations onto the landscape. It shows up elsewhere too.
Speaker 1: What else.
Speaker 2: The sources point to the ancient city of Tiotuwacan near
modern Mexico City. The layout of its the main pyramids,
like the massive pyramid of the Sun, aligns with the
Pleiades star cluster and other celestial points. You see similar
principles in the layout of ancient Hopee villages in the
American Southwest, mapping Orion and other constellations, and even in
Neolithic England at the Thornborough Henges, three giant circular earthworks
in a line that also mimic Orion's belt.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, Egypt, Mexico, American Southwest England, that's a whitebread pattern.
It really does suggest some kind of shared cosmological blueprint,
doesn't it.
Speaker 2: It's hard to dismiss it as coincidence. When you see
it repeated across cultures and continents like that, it points
towards a shared knowledge base, a unified worldview guiding these
massive construction projects worldwide, and intelligent designs.
Speaker 1: Speaking of shared designs, what about those stone spheres, the
perfectly round ones.
Speaker 2: Ah, Yes, the giant stone balls, another global mystery. These things.
Monolithic spheres have been found on literally every continent except Antarctica.
Geologists argue about some of them maybe natural erosion, but
many are just too perfectly spherical to be natural. They
look artificial.
Speaker 1: The most famous ones are from Coastareacan.
Speaker 2: Right, definitely found back in the nineteen thirties by workers
for the United Fruit Company. They were clearing dense jungle
near the Dickstelta and just started uncovering hundreds of them.
Speaker 1: Hundreds. How big are they?
Speaker 2: They? Very hugely. Some are small, just a few inches across.
Others are enormous, over six feet in diameter, weighing up
to fifteen tons, perfectly round.
Speaker 1: Fifteen tons on Earth? Did they make them so round
and move them?
Speaker 2: That's the million dollar question. The material is usually super
hard rock, like granite or basalt. The official archaeological explanation
involves rudimentary tools, maybe other stones used as hammers, lots
of patient grinding. But to get that level of near
perfect sphericity, some din y ate less than point two
percent from a true sphere using just stone tools, it
seems almost impossible. The labor of the precision.
Speaker 1: It's staggering and moving a fifteen ton perfectly round ball through.
Speaker 2: Jungle exactly, and analysis shows the rock itself, the basalt
or granite, often wasn't even local to where the spheres
were found. It had to be quarried miles away, sometimes
over fifty miles, and then transported across really rough terrain mountains, rivers,
swamps before they even started shaping it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so why, yeah, what were they for? Did the
Jakish people leave any records?
Speaker 2: Knew no written records from that culture about the spheres.
Local legends, though, they attribute them to Tara, the god
of Sunder. Supposedly he made giant blowpipes and shot the
spheres out to fight off hurricanes or giants.
Speaker 1: Thunder gods with blowpipes making giant stone.
Speaker 2: Balls sounds mythological, right, But ancient astronaut theorists look at
that story and ask, what if that's a distorted memory
of actual technology. What if the ancestors saw some kind
of spherical craft or witnessed a technological process for shaping
or moving these huge stones, and described it the only
way they could, as the actions of a powerful god.
Speaker 1: It can expect to that idea you mentioned earlier with
Easter Island, the Moai heads, which are on that same globe.
Speaker 2: They were associated with mana, right energy.
Speaker 1: Exactly Mana, this concept of spiritual power, life force, sacred
energy that can reside in objects or places. The theory goes,
maybe these perfectly shaped spheres, like the precisely aligned pyramids,
weren't just art or markers. Maybe there's shape, their material,
their placement. Maybe it was about harnessing or manipulating some
kind of energy, or maybe they were part of a
global grid system easily recognizable markers from the air. We've
talked about messages in code, messages and symbols, messages written
across the planet's geometry. Now let's talk about messages or
maybe technologies that might be hidden deliberately, possibly right under
the ground, protected by secrecy and power.
Speaker 2: Let's head to Alaska, Ah, the Alaska Triangle, that whole
huge area between Anchorage Juno and barrel. It's kind of reputation,
hasn't it, Like the Bermuda Triangle, but with snow.
Speaker 1: Definitely. It's notorious for weirdness. Magnetic compasses going haywire, strange
lights in the sky, planes vanishing without a trace, and
tons of UFO sightings. And right in the middle of
this is Mount Hayes.
Speaker 2: Mount Hayes, Yeah, a really remote, inaccessible peak and for
decades it's been a major hot spot for UFO reports.
People consistently reporting strange craft flying around the mountain doing
maneuvers that defy physics.
Speaker 1: Okay, spooky mountain stories, but does it go beyond that?
Speaker 2: Oh, it goes way beyond campfire tales. Things got really
serious in nineteen ninety five when certain CIA documents were declassified.
These documents revealed that Mount Hayes was a primary target
for a top secret US government program called Project Stargate.
Speaker 1: Stargate wasn't that the remote viewing program?
Speaker 2: The psychic spies, That's the one During the Cold War
the military was trying to use people with supposed psychic
abilities remote viewers to spy on Soviet bases and technologies
see things from afar.
Speaker 1: And they pointed these psychic spies at Mount Hayes.
Speaker 2: Why that's the mystery. But the most famous, most successful
remote viewer in the program, a guy named Pat Price,
focused intensely on Mountain and what he reported seeing it
was chilling.
Speaker 1: What did he claim he saw?
Speaker 2: He didn't just see rocks and ice. He described in
detail a massive alien underground base located deep beneath Mount Hayes.
Speaker 1: An alien base, seriously.
Speaker 2: That's what he reported. He drew sketches, tubes, tunnels, huge
rooms filled with sophisticated computers and weird geographical monitoring equipment,
and even more disturbing, he claimed he saw strange humanoid.
Speaker 1: Creatures like Grays, like the.
Speaker 2: Classic Grays, Yeah, working alongside human personnel people he believed
were US military or intelligence officers inside this hidden underground facility.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a massive claim.
Speaker 2: What happened to Price, Well, Price apparently started getting really nervous,
he felt like he'd seen too much, that he was
being watched, and then tragically, in nineteen seventy five, not
long after his last remote viewing sessions targeting that base, yeah,
he died very suddenly, very mysteriously in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: How mysteriously story.
Speaker 2: He was in public, someone supposedly bumped into him, he
felt a sharp pain. The next morning, he had severe
convulsions and died really quickly. Official cause was listed as
a heart attack, but the circumstances were weird, and the
cover up angle comes in how What really fuels the
suspicion is how his death was handled. Apparently the hospital
didn't even notify his wife initially, and they had his
body immediately cremated. No autopsy allowed, no chance for an
independent investigation into the cause of death. That speed, that
lack of transparency, It makes his claims about the base
seem a lot more credible. Doesn't it like someone wanted
to silence him and erase any evidence fastest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sequence of events is deeply suspicious. It adds
a lot of weight to the idea stumbled onto something real,
something highly.
Speaker 2: Classified, and the Alaskan weirdness doesn't stop there. Fast forward
to nineteen ninety two, there was a big underground nuclear
test conducted by China. Seismic instruments all over the world
picked up the shockwaves as expected, but some of those instruments,
particularly those monitoring the region around Mount Denali, which is
about one hundred and thirty miles southwest of Mount Hayes.
They picked up something else, an anomaly in the seismic data, something.
Speaker 1: Structural beneath Denali. What did it look like?
Speaker 2: The data suggested a massive artificial pyramidal object buried deep
beneath the mountain. It's become known as the Dark Pyramid.
Speaker 1: A pyramid under a mountain in Alaska. How big.
Speaker 2: The descriptions based on that seismic data are incredible. They
say it's a distinct structure, maybe five hundred and fifty
feet tall, buried about one hundred and fifty feet below
the surface, made of some kind of black stone. And
get this, roughly twice the size of the Great Pyramid
of Giza.
Speaker 1: Twice the size of Giza hidden under Denali. That's staggering.
Is there any more evidence for this besides seismic blips?
Speaker 2: This is where Linda Milton how comes back in. She
interviewed anonymous sources, including one man whose father was supposedly
a high level electrical engineer for a major US corporation.
This engineer was allegedly recruited for a top secret project
well me guess involving the pyramids exactly The father told
his son years later that he was taken to this
underground structure beneath Alaska. His job, along with others, was
to install equipment to monitor and somehow manage the massive
amounts of energy being emitted from the pyramid.
Speaker 1: Itself admitted energy? How much?
Speaker 2: According to what the father told his son, they were
measuring energy coming off this black pyramid structure sufficient to
power the entire country of Canada.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not just energy, it's practically unlimited free energy
hidden the way.
Speaker 2: If true? Yeah, and that's where the narrative shifts firmly
into hidden technology and a potential cover up. That kind
of energy output, combined with the extreme secrecy, Price's death,
the structure's bizarre nature, it all points towards something world
changing being deliberately kept under wraps, possibly alien tech, possibly
ancient advanced human tech. The sources, how interviewed claimed that
revealing this structure, proving its existence and its power source,
would completely shatter our understanding of history. It would force
us to accept that maybe there was a glas global,
highly advanced industrialized civilization here long before us, a civilization
that left behind these power plants.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, if advanced technology is the key. Let's loop
back to some of those ancient sites we talked about.
Could some of those megalists, the giant stone structures be
more than just monuments. Could they be functional like devices?
Speaker 2: That's a growing area, I thought, Yeah. Geologists will tell
you all matter vibrates, rocks have frequencies, and the type
of rock matters. Stones contain minerals. Quartz and granite is piezoelectric,
meaning it generates electricity under pressure. Basalt, which we saw
on the Olmec heads and the Costa Rican spheres, is
rich in iron and magnesium, making it highly magnetic.
Speaker 1: So the ancients weren't just picking random rocks. They were
choosing specific materials for specific properties.
Speaker 2: It seems increasingly likely the choice of stone was deliberate,
maybe even technological, not just artistic or based on what
was available. Look those giant Oleneck heads, again carved from
volcanic basalt, highly magnetic. Researchers went over them with magnetometers
and found strong magnetic anomalies, but not just randomly scattered.
The magnetic fields were strongest and most focused right on
specific facial features, the nose, the cheats, the naval area,
on some statues, like the.
Speaker 1: Sculptors knew where the magnetism was strongest and worked around
it exactly.
Speaker 2: It suggests they understood the magnetic properties of the stone
and deliberately shaped the statue to enhance or focus those fields.
Speaker 1: Why so, what's the theory? Why focus the magnetism intent?
Speaker 2: Astronaut theorists propose something pretty radical. Maybe these weren't just sculptures.
Maybe these massive, hard to carve magnetic rocks were chosen
to be data storage.
Speaker 1: Devices, storing data in rock using magnetism.
Speaker 2: How think about modern tech? In twenty seventeen, IBM made
a breakthrough storing huge amounts of data like hundreds of
gigabytes per square inch on magnetic tape. That tape works
because it's coded in tiny magnetic particles oriented in patterns
to represent data zeros and ones. Again basically, okay, So
if we can use microscopic magnetic particles today, could an
advanced ancient civilization have used the natural large scale magnetic
properties within basalt may be manipulated with some kind of
lost nanotechnology to encode vast amounts of information directly into
these monumental stones.
Speaker 1: Information encoded in the magnetic fields of giant stoneheads. That's
out there but intriguing. What about Egypt any tech theories
there beyond the alignments.
Speaker 2: Let's look at Abu symbol, the giant temple complex built
by Ramses the second around twelve forty four BC, famous
for those four colossal sixty four foot statues of Ramseys
seated outside, and.
Speaker 1: The solar alignment thing right where the sun shines deep
inside on.
Speaker 2: Certain days exactly twice a year with pinpoint astronomical accuracy
February twenty second. In October twenty second, supposedly Rams's coronation
and birth dates, the rising sun penetrates one hundred and
eighty five feet into the temple's inner sanctuary, and for
just about twenty minutes it illuminates the statues of the
gods deep inside, leaving only the god of the underworld
in shadow.
Speaker 1: That's incredible engineering just to get the light, right.
Speaker 2: It is, but it goes further. What if it wasn't
just symbolic. What if the temple, the statues, the percase alignment.
What if they functioned as a kind of receiver or
a transmitter transmitter of what cosmic energy? Life force? That
mana concept again, the idea is that these structures were
designed using sacred geometry and celestial timing to literally draw
down energy from the Sun from the cosmos and maybe
amplify or radiate it out into the surrounding area, not
just commemorating the Pharaoh, but actively harnessing power the engineering
needed to achieve that light alignment. Factoring in three thousand
years of the Earth's wobble, it's almost beyond belief for
the supposed tools they had. Hashtag tag outro.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, we have covered a lot of ground today.
Started with a message beamed into space.
Speaker 2: Coded in simple binary yeah okay, and then possibly answered
years later in a field in England.
Speaker 1: Then we looked at symbols carved in rock, repeated all
over the world, maybe hinting at a shared ancient knowledge,
even of things like DNA.
Speaker 2: That recurring double helix motif yeah, and this strange roswell
rock connecting a modern discovery to an older crop circle.
Speaker 1: And in the sheer scale of the global geometry, these
incredibly significant ancient sites all lined up on one path
around the Earth.
Speaker 2: A path that seems mathematically impossible to achieve by chance,
suggesting a global plan, maybe an aerial perspective.
Speaker 1: Plus the celestial blueprints Giza, Tiatuwacan, mapping the.
Speaker 2: Stars in the ground, and finally delving into these potentially
hidden structures. The base under Mount Hayz that Pat Price
claimed to see, the mysterious dark pyramid under.
Speaker 1: Denali, the idea that maybe some ancient megaliths, the Olmac heads,
the Abu simple statues weren't just monuments but sophisticated devices
for energy or data storage.
Speaker 2: It paints a picture, doesn't it a picture of possible
intelligent design, recurring patterns and maybe advanced technology woven through
millennia across the entire globe.
Speaker 1: And it's fascinating how these ideas weren't just fringe thoughts.
You brought up. The founding Fathers, the Mason's, powerful influential
people deeply interested in ancient wisdom, esoteric symbols, the possibility
of guidance from somewhere else, incorporating the Egyptian symbols right
into the heart of American identity.
Speaker 2: That search for light for higher knowledge seems to be
a constant thread. And the evidence we discussed from Alaska,
the secrecy around Project Stargate, Price's death, the pyramid claims.
It suggests that maybe modern powerful groups are still grappling
with and maybe covering up evidence of something extraordinary, superior technology.
Speaker 1: Perhaps, so wrapping this all up, what does this mean
for you listening right now? If even some of this
is true, If these mystery, the messages, the geometry, the
structures actually point towards something that forces us to completely
rethink human history.
Speaker 2: To accept the possibility of a global, technologically advanced civilization
long before recorded history, one that maybe left us clues, warnings,
maybe even technology.
Speaker 1: How does that change how you look at the world,
at history, at science, at those ancient symbols you see
in museums or you know, on your dollar bill. Does
it make you see them differently?
Speaker 2: If the story of humanity isn't quite the closed book
we thought it was, If the deepest secrets might be
written not just in texts, but in the planet's geography,
in the magnetism of stones, in hidden structures, what does
that open up? What chapter might you want to explore next?