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Speaker 1: I'll start Toyota Presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester

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and Matt Flynn say.

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Speaker 2: Hester and Hester.

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Speaker 1: From carrying each other to and Natty to carrying each

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other on the air roll from the live from the

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Mercedes Benz Baton Rouge Studio. It's off the bench.

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Speaker 2: All right, Welcome back in nour number three of OTB

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here on one O four five ESPN Baton Rouge. I

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am very excited to catch up with our next guest.

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It is Josh Pate, who is the host of You Guessed,

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The Josh Pate College Football Show. Also he is the

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head coach, offense and defensive coordinator and athletic director for

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the Pate State Frights.

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Speaker 3: Josh, what is going on? Sarah? Glad to have you

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on the show.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad to be here. I don't know why more

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people take that approach. Just fill every single role that way,

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either at a total success or a total failure, and

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not some gray area. I know.

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Speaker 2: We got Billy Napier out here with seventy three blue

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polos in his team picture. He's got a coordinator of

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game changing moments when Billy could just do it all himself.

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Speaker 4: It's look, it's something that I fully plan on sending

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a handwritten letter to every athletic department suggesting we'll see

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if they take it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, So Josh here obviously, like we're oning

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in Louisiana. So we've been following college baseball. Lshue makes

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their run, they win a championship, but pretty soon after

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it's like, okay, well we can see in the distance

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it is football season. It is on the horizon media days.

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We'll be here in a couple of weeks. Like, what

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about for you, Like, are you ready to fully jump in?

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Obviously you do college football year round, but once baseball

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finishes up, it's that last sport of the calendar year

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for the twenty four to twenty five cycle, and now

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it truly does feel like football season.

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Speaker 3: Are you like cannonballing into the deep end?

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Speaker 4: I kind of am, but I was never I never

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viewed the calendar that way. College baseball for me, I mean,

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I know this is really really dirty to say, down

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in your neck woods. The college baseball for me, I've

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always thought of it as the audio bed, if you will,

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sort of the background noise as I'm already getting ready

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for college football, Like I'm watching it, but even when

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I was way, way younger, I always thought of it

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as that's what's on the TV in my room as

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I'm reading Phil Still's magazine or something like that. So

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I'm already in, like I've been in for thirty minutes,

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and now everyone's jumping in and they're complaining about how

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cold the water is, and I'm like, just give it

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a second. You'll like, you'll acclimate, you'll adjust. The worst

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part to me is all this stuff we've been talking about,

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whether it's the house settlement, whether it's the playoff realignment,

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which format is the best? Some of us and I

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assume you guys have done this too, We have talked

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to we're blue in the face about it. And you

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know as well as I do. You'll get up to

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Atlanta in a few weeks for media days and they'll

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be people almost speak as if they are breaking news

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that those are on the agendatory Guys, did you know

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they're going to expand the plus? What do we think

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about it?

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's no question about that. That is absolutely how

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Speaker 2: But as soon as you said Phil Steel magazine, like

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I have to ask you, I got to get your

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grade on this. So in the magazine the last three

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years overall my serious XM show me ej Manuel, Bobby Carpenter.

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He's allowed us to put our all meathead team together

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because look, we're three meatheads, and it's like it's a

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term of endearment. So we get to go like a

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full twenty two, like eleven on offense, eleven on defense.

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college football this year, who would you go with?

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you who we picked after I hear

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Speaker 4: Oh man, it's only it's tough. Let me think. Let

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me think what level did you go? P five or

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Speaker 2: I went, I went power for and I went with

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somebody that's a true If he would have won one

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of his games at the very end of the year,

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we'd be talking about him way more.

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Speaker 4: Well, then you're not talking about Pavi, are you.

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in the running. He actually, Okay, I'll go ahead and

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tell you because they'll give you an idea. We went

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with Haines King Georgia Tech. If he beats Georgia in

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that eight overtime game, I think we're talking about him differently.

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as well, but we went with Haines King because he

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is tougher than a two dollars stake.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what, you're describing their entire team.

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I like what you're saying about King. I feel about

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their entire team, both in terms of identity but recognizability too.

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you're saying it like that, I assume is clause, you know,

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scenario A, Scenario B, they're pretty much the same player,

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end up, you know, winning the coin flip eight overtime whatever.

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sleeper for the ACC Championship. They're talking about him as

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a fringe Heisman contender, and I look at it and

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legitimately think Georgia Tech can compete for the ACC this year.

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a Florida State helmet sticker on that team and you

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just described everything about their returning production and this and that,

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people would be a lot more free and easy to

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pick them to compete and win. It's just they haven't

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seen Georgia Tech do it. So understandably, there's a lot

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of doubt out there in the college football public about that.

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I don't have that doubt. Like I love what Brent

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Key is as a coach. I love that program. That

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team perfectly reflects his identity. Like watching them play, it's

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like watching his thumbprints on a team. And they get

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their biggest two games at home this year and elsewhere.

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should take them seriously.

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Speaker 5: Yet you're talking about Haines King a just a hell

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of a East Texan as well. Yeah he's right there

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from Yeah he's from Longview, Texas and his dad being

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a head coach, just like a tough, tough kid. Josh,

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what's up, man, This is Matt flinn Man. Pleasure to

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talk to you. My mind is always going to go

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towards the quarterbacks, and we just talked about Haines King there.

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But in the summer you're kind of looking for stories

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to talk about. But something popped up pretty good, and

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I'm especially interested in stories about quarterbacks and a positive

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light and doing things the right way. But nor Seller,

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South Carolina quarterback who just came on so strong last year,

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he got a lot of hype going into this year.

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The story comes out from his dad that he may

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or may not have turned down eight million dollars NIL

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deals to stay there because his dad said, well, we

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made a commitment. We didn't go there to make a

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bunch of money. Came there to be a student athlete,

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win championships, do things the right way. When you saw

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the story, what is that like? As a quarterback who

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tried to do things the right way? It made me

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feel awesome be a fan of this kid. So what

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do you think about that story? Just like the nil

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mess and when it comes to quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad it came out. They were talking about that

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on campus the spring when I was up there, and

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you know, it's his personal business, so it's his story

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to tell. I'm not, you know when I'm privy to

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that stuff, like I'm not some newsbreaker. But I said, well,

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why why don't you tell that story? That story? It's

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not braggadocious to tell that story. It really helps the

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overall sport to tell that story. I'll tell you another

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one that's done. That is rock Obeck up at Iowa State.

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in ames Iowa to leave the past two years, by

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the way, and he stayed there. Now, you can say

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what you just said, and I wholeheartedly agree with you.

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good and what should as me and Ma always say,

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but also think about how think about how that perspective

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ends up working. You've got what you know what I

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always call penny wise pounds foolish approaches to college football,

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and that is this guy's offering me more. I'm going

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over there, and it just maybe to like a fan,

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that makes sense. Oh, that guy's got to go get

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his money while he can. No It oftentimes doesn't even

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make sense in that vein because at the expense of

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your development, your progression, and your future earnings potentials, you're

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going and chasing sixty thousand extra dollars. And that's great

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in the moment. Sixty k is not going to matter

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to you fifteen sixteen years down the road. But yet,

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having stayed the course, especially at a place that's good

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for you, if you're in a toxic place. That's different

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if you leave a place that's good for you and

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you're the guy saying, hey, I wanted to stay there,

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but I had to make a business decision. Maybe you

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just made the wrong business decision. So I'm glad that

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story went public.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great story. And Josh, don't break news

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here if it's not public. Infert I was trying to

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look for it as well. But he gives up eight

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million to go. Do you know what he's like? His

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takeome is right now with South Carolina.

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Speaker 4: Well, so it was gonna be an eight million over

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two years, So it was gonna be I think about

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a four million per year. He's not making that there,

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but he's making more than half that I think there.

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most places that know what they're doing, they're gonna pay

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on a scale that is in accordance with performance and

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real value. And so he's gonna make good money there.

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enterprise in the state of South Carolina and your CEO

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is a lifelong game talk and he graduated from there,

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and you listen to that story. If you weren't already

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on board with underwriting a huge portion of your ad

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spend this year for Lenora sellers in South Carolina Athletics,

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now you are so in just telling the truth and

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being loyal to a program. He probably made himself even

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more money and got himself closer to that four million

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per year figure by doing that than he ever needed

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to leaving.

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Speaker 5: That's a great Yeah, it is you do things the

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right way, and hopefully it trickles down to other people

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around the country when they see it. And man, I think,

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you know, of course we're everyone's lsu fanc here, but

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a hard time cheering against that kid at least.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that. I think that as you come

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of portal, you know, I think if people handle their

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revenue sharing the right way, you're going to see a

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lot of that roster turn slow down, which is a

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good thing. But I think about now, let's say ten

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fifteen years from now, we're kind of safely removed from

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this era whatever we end up calling this era. And

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the present moment. I think, at any given times, what

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thirty for thirty came out with the Broke documentary about

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how many NFL guys squandered their earnings, and they had

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those guys on camera, and those guys talked about how

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foolish they were and how they wish they had to

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do over. I think fifteen years from now, your transfer

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portal or NIL documentary is going to be pretty heartbreaking

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case by case scenario, of course, when you have guys

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on camera who were taking advantage of and had a

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lot of predatory individuals from the shadows get in their

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ear and tell them all the wrong things, and they

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ended up at three or four different schools, not because

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they needed to, but just because they could and they

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didn't know any better. And now here they are had

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all the potential in the world and they've been done

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playing football for thirteen years. By fifteen years from now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's any question about that.

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Speaker 2: Catching up with Josh Bate here on OTB talking from

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college football, I'll stay with quarterback in the SEC because

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Josh for me one of the storylines that I'm going

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to find highly intriguing once we get to media days

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in Atlanta. When you look at the quarterbacks in the

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SEC LSU, South Carolina, Florida, ou Vandy, like they've got

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quarterbacks that they feel really good about, guys that have

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done it before, guys that have thrived in college football.

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a UGA, A Tennessee, A Texas, an Ole Miss and Alabama,

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and they're going to have first time starters. Now it's

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not to say that they're going to be bad football players, obviously,

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Texas Ole Miss feel really good about their quarterbacks. But

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how much does that change your outlook on the SEC

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knowing that the teams that typically have won the SEC

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in recent years made it cause football playoff or hitting

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reset at quarterback and some of those other teams feel

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really good about quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 4: The added part about that for context for people just

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kind of driving around listening or sitting in the office listening,

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is you would think, with that being the case, the

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odds would look a little different this year, but they don't.

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The odds still look pretty much the same, Like no

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one has any clue what they're going to get from

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gun or Stockton in Georgia. But yet they're right up

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there along with Texas as the face to win the conference.

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Alabama's right up there. No one knows what to expect

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from ty Simpson. And then conversely, you look at DJ Lagway,

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the guy came on really strong at the end of

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the year. Flord is down the board a little bit,

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partly due to schedule, but they're down the board a

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little bit. So it's funny how there's such a benefit

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of the doubt. There's so much equity built up from

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some of these power programs you go beyond the SEC.

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You can say the same about Ohio State right now.

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You can say the same about Oregon right now. No

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one knows what to expect from those qbs, but they're

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up there anyway. They've earned that benefit of the doubt.

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And I'm not saying they haven't. But what if, just

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for a second here, what if you get B level

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quarterback play and nothing better, nothing less from those new guys.

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We did this little exercise on our show the other night.

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Is I always expect B level quarterback play from a

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new guy, and it's not because they're not capable of

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AA plus level play. It's just that's the exception, that's

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not the rule. So in order to not let myself

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down and suffer heartbreaking December, what happens to the rest

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of your team? If arch Manning plays at a B level?

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What happens to the rest of my team? If the

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two guys at Bama and Georgia respectively play at a

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B level, Well, they're still capable if they win the

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close games and you know, are plus in the turnover margins,

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they're still capable of winning the league. But what it

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does is it opens the door wide for like a

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Texas A and M to make her run, or like

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we just had a South Carolina to make her run,

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and that normally wouldn't be the case. You'd normally be

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looking at those caliber rosters saying they're probably another year

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or two away, and then you could extrapolate that same

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cinement nationally. What if none of these guys just elevate

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themselves and it really is, you know, a sledgehammer fest

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come playoff time, and you're looking at it saying this

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is just an exception to the rule. In terms of

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the landscape, it really does feel like we're in November

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and there are twelve or fifteen teams that could win

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this thing if they get hot in December.

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Speaker 5: It's a good question because the any championship team, any

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good time team, your quarterback is going to have a

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B game, right, You just can't have a B season

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or you're not going to stand a chance. But every

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quarter and so the team's got to overcome those B games.

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That's why it's the greatest team sport. But Josh, I

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want to talk the With the expanded playoffs, the opening

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game has a little bit less impact than it used

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to on the you know, your chances to make the playoffs,

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make a run. We got two SEC teams going on

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the road week on big matchups Texas at Ohio, State

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of course, LSU at Clemson. What's your opinion of teams

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like this kind of going out of the ordinary and

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scheduling these big matchups on the opening game.

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Speaker 4: Well, I love it independent of anything else because I

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just think that's what the sport should look like. And

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I also love those those games you're mentioning. They're not

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these you know, sanitized neutral site affairs. Either it's someone

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going to someone else's building. That's what this sport is

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supposed to be September through November with very few exceptions,

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So I love that. Now, the obvious context of that

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question is, yeah, but what if you lose while everyone

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else is playing a pree puff and it ends up

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being held against you. Well, that's why I think there's

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been a lot of talk this past few months, especially

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about all the playoffs stuff, But I don't want to

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just overlook something else that's being reported, and that is

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all the talk about recalibrating the selection process and recalibrating

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the criteria and specifically recalibrating how they define strength to schedule.

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And I think that is obviously been born out of

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folks from the SEC and to an extent, the Big

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Ten like yelling at the top of their lungs. Come

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December and the selection process happens, and they're saying, wait,

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why do you guys keep talking about records so much?

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This is college football like in the NFL. Yeah, you

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are what your record says you are. That's one of

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the biggest lies you could tell about college football because

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of the vast disparity in strength to schedule. So you

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guys either need to fix this or we're not scheduling

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these games anymore because trust does we can go schedule

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for Creampuff, take the four and oh and be happy

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to go into conference play. We want to challenge ourselves.

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We want to make the money off the gate that

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we get when we challenge ourselves. We want to offer

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spectacle for the broadcast network that we're in media rights

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fials with. But we're only going to do it if

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you don't even have to reward us for it, but

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don't punish us for it. So I still think we're

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in an era where that's going to change, and I

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think you'll continue to get those games. But just forget

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a US playoff for a second. Just just college football.

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I love it. I mean, that's what I'm supposed to

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be looking forward to this time of year. It's not

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you playing alcorn State all due respect, it's you going

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on the road to Clemson. You it's Ohio State posting Texas.

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It's the man, what are we going to look like?

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I remember thinking this about Miami going to Florida last

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year and then think about that result. It's just college

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football is such a wild card sport, but especially Week

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one of college football, it's a total roll of the dice.

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But in like the most fun way possible.

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Speaker 3: All right, there is Josh Pay good enough to join us.

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Speaker 2: Man, I just got really fired up for I know

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we talked about being on the horizon and it might

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already be here.

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Speaker 5: I love your thoughts on the opening week two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the same way, like, let's go ahead, let's

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play a giant, Let's play a power forward team. I

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do not want to play directional school you either as

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a player, Josh, Man, I really appreciate your time. Look

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forward to our next conversation. Hopefully we can do this

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again in the near future.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, there is Josh Paate, host of The Josh

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Pay College Football Show Sunday Tuesday Thursday, eight pm Eastern Time,

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so seven here locally.

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Speaker 3: You can catch that on YouTube. Does a fantastic job.

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I love his insight. Man. A lot of different things

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to transfer portal week one.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk about some of that Week one stuff

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when we come back. And I know there's some people

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here in this building that want to play directional school

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you and I understand your point, but I'm just telling

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you the all seasons different, and look, LSU has been

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horrendous in season openers they have. It is looked clunky

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as hell. Well, but I do think they're doing something

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this year that is going to help out a little bit. Now,

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once the ball's kicked off, it's all on you, but

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I'm saying, building up to the game, there's something they're

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doing over there that I think is going to help.

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Speaker 3: We'll tell you what that is when we come back

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Speaker 3: Screw sports. Listen to those I was trying to you

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Speaker 2: Did you find a new artist on your road trip,

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somebody you had not really heard of before that found

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Speaker 6: There's one, but I can't remember the name of it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: It was a good song, for sure, but it was

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like a long name. It was like three different words

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change your life, Like the artist's name was like a sentence.

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Speaker 6: So okay, fair enough, But it was mostly just stuff

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that we all.

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Speaker 5: What kind of what genre was it?

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Speaker 6: It was like indie.

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Speaker 3: Coffee house preaching.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't coffeehouse, you know, like the twenty tens, like indie. Yeah,

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maybe alternative a little yeah, but.

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Speaker 5: It was seattle.

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Speaker 3: Like were talking.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: No, it was kind of like killers Ask, which isn't

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really indeed, but it was like a combo.

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Speaker 5: Artist.

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Speaker 6: It was a male artist. Rivers will know.

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Speaker 3: Artic monkeys.

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Speaker 6: It's three words.

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Speaker 8: I'm trying to think of somebody to compare them to.

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Speaker 3: All Right, it's okay, we'll find out the answer. We'll

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get there.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk opening games here. I want to

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go around the room. I want to get everybody's there.

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I want to get everybody's opinion on this opening game

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against a big time Marque opponent. I love it as

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a player. That's what I wanted. I wanted somebody to

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look at and say, we got to be ready. We

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don't have time to wait because we've got this team.

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I think we we broke it down the other day.

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I think, uh, three of our four years, three my

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four you were here five. Three of my four years

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we played a Power four opponent in the opening game,

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and the one year we didn't, we played one in

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game number two I believe, because then we go ulled

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then Arizona I think in six maybe.

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Speaker 3: So I loved it.

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Speaker 2: It gave me an opportunity to like just see who

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I was going to play, know that they were, you know,

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doing some of the same things, they had, some of

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the same athletes that we had, and it was always

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something that I felt like helped me prepare for the

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first game. Now we all know that LSU is zero

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for five in their last five season openers. It has

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been Mississippi State when you were playing a defense that

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you never should against a Mike Leach offense.

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Speaker 3: You should never play that defense.

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Speaker 2: Right, They're going to hit another crosser as we're having

478
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,240
this conversation, and then the next season you go to

479
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,720
the Rose Bowl and they run counter right up. You

480
00:23:50,759 --> 00:23:55,599
know what, right, Zach Charbonay just hit another counter. Florida

481
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,480
State back to back years. Right, we all know the

482
00:23:57,519 --> 00:24:01,680
first game in New Orleans debacle. I mean, special teams,

483
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,240
multiple kicks block, just a hot mess, Okay, and then

484
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,039
you got the next year. Laforesa just beat you the

485
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,680
next year, right, I mean you had some momentum, you

486
00:24:09,759 --> 00:24:11,680
had an opportunity. You don't put the ball in the

487
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,599
end zone, they just beat you. And then last year

488
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,519
right USC they made the plays you did not, Okay,

489
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,680
So it's been a lot of different ways. It's been

490
00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:24,720
different coaches, it's been different players. This year, I think

491
00:24:24,759 --> 00:24:28,160
it's a point of emphasis over at the OPS building

492
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,920
to make it a big deal and not hide from it,

493
00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:33,799
where I don't know that that's been the case in

494
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,519
years past. I don't know how they handled it, but

495
00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:38,960
I've noticed like there's a lot of one to zero

496
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,279
right all across the building.

497
00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:42,519
Speaker 3: There's a lot of Clemson.

498
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 2: There's a lot of like messages to what is in

499
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,079
front of you and not trying to shy away from it.

500
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,759
And that might sound so elementary, it might sound like,

501
00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:54,039
oh my god, why does that because it's just the

502
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,720
constant reminder for players and coaches as you're getting ready,

503
00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:02,359
you don't have time time to wait around and figure

504
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:02,680
it out.

505
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,319
Speaker 3: You got to get it figured out.

506
00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:08,559
Speaker 5: Like an athlete psyche who the phone was going off,

507
00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:12,119
Sorry people, but then on silent an athlete psyche is.

508
00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:15,839
I'm not gonna say they were delicate, but it's very

509
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,400
malleable from what it coach. That's why a coach, especially

510
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,640
the college Elmos is so important. How they get your

511
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,759
mind right, how they prepare you. And I remember like

512
00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:24,279
when we used to open up and this is no

513
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,400
shot at anybody, but like when we used to open

514
00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:29,279
up with Ull or whoever, it was those types of

515
00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:32,640
games in the off season, when you're hot and sweaty

516
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,640
running one tens and you're leaning on the person next

517
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,160
to you, you're fighting, you're sweating, you're bleeding with your

518
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,680
brothers all off season. Having something to focus on is

519
00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:47,920
so important. Hey, I remember when we'd have those games

520
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,920
that weren't big, it was you know, what do you

521
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,720
think Florida's doing right now? You would talk about other

522
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:55,319
teams that were looking.

523
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: Past that, and this is not Look, we're not like

524
00:25:57,759 --> 00:26:00,799
sitting trying to draw bombs and have shape. We never

525
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,519
were like what do you think ULL's doing right now?

526
00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:05,839
Speaker 3: Just that didn't happen, but it did.

527
00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: What do you think Mississippi State's doing right now? What

528
00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:11,359
do you think Oregon State's doing right now? Like in

529
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,319
some of our openers, Yep, you never heard it when

530
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,240
it was you know, a group of five school.

531
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, And Josh brought up such a good point, and

532
00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:19,839
there's so many like butterfly effects to decisions made on

533
00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:23,240
expanding the playoffs, changing the rules of the playoffs, all

534
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:28,359
that stuff, because I do not want to lose the

535
00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:32,160
opening day big game. And that is exactly what's gonna

536
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,039
happen if they make it strictly record wins and losses.

537
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:37,440
Blah blah blah. You can truly with a twelve person

538
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:42,920
playoff ruin your season by scheduling these big games. Then

539
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,039
you're gonna see people just shy away from them. I

540
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,240
don't think that's gonna happen. I want to keep seeing

541
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:50,519
them as an athlete, as a player, As a former player,

542
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,359
I did not want to play the smaller schools. I

543
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,039
hated those games. I hated them. People can be like, oh,

544
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,359
it's so stat patter looks good, blah blah blah. Get

545
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:03,920
the guaranteed win, so what. I hate it not playing

546
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:07,519
the top competition just the same. It was hard to

547
00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:08,039
get up for it.

548
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: Ye try to explain that from your perspective as a quarterback,

549
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,960
because I try to say it like if we were

550
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,559
playing Fresno State, Like in my mind, I was doing

551
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,160
the same exact routine, I was watching the same amount

552
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,839
of tape, I was doing all the same things, but

553
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,160
in reality, I was not, because if we were playing

554
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,400
Auburn or Florida or Alabama or whoever it was, let

555
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,440
me watch this third down package, Hey, let me watch

556
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,359
his blitz pick up.

557
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,759
Speaker 3: Hey, let me watch his short yardage goal line situation.

558
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,279
Speaker 2: And you just organically found yourself doing more, staying later,

559
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,039
having more conversations, and you weren't trying to.

560
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: It's just that's the way it happened.

561
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's something to be said for just like the

562
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,440
you did the practice schedules the same. The coaches do

563
00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:51,319
a great job of trying to keep the schedule like

564
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,559
the exact same, and you never you never try to

565
00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:59,200
think that Alabama game is bigger than Fresno State or

566
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,960
Louisiana Tech. But it is, and you feel there's a

567
00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:05,920
there's an unsaid knowledge there that no one has.

568
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: The time I got fired up, I got fired up

569
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,559
good dogs to play louis Antech because look, my my

570
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,880
wife's dad, uncle, my mom, her mom, she had a

571
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,880
cousin on the team. My best friend in the world

572
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:19,759
was on the team. So I was a little fired

573
00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:21,799
up for that one. But that was because of circumstance,

574
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,759
not because of who it was.

575
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, Daniel and the chatter are saying like some

576
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,440
sort of combination of BCS algorithm and committee like the

577
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:35,079
BCS system. To me, probably with a twelve man team.

578
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: Like a twelve man I say, the only problem with

579
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:37,839
the VCS was it was.

580
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 5: Just two teams, right even with even when they expanded

581
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,640
a four, probably pretty darn good.

582
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,759
Speaker 2: That's why I don't understand why in college baseball we

583
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:48,160
always talk about RPI and Jay Johnson comes on this

584
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:48,960
show all the time.

585
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 3: RPI our prawer, here's why we did this.

586
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: Uh, when we have Matt McMahon or Kim Molky on,

587
00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:55,400
it's like we talk about the net and we talked

588
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,599
about the kN palm. We talk about all these systems

589
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,440
that we have, and we don't have that in football anymore.

590
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,119
But if we add it back to the old BCS

591
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,319
system and we had at least a ranking, and I'm

592
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:07,559
not even saying that you don't have a committee, now,

593
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,079
I would trust the old BCS system, But if you

594
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:12,799
want to throw a human element back into it, at

595
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,279
least if we had a BCS system or rank them

596
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:18,599
whenever we go to sixteen one through sixteen, and then

597
00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:20,920
if that committee put nineteen in over sixteen.

598
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:23,559
Speaker 3: Then that would really you know, raise some hell.

599
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:26,799
Speaker 2: But you would have this metric that the coaches like

600
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,599
they could use and they when it comes to scheduling,

601
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:32,559
like there's a strength of schedule component that goes into

602
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,480
the algorithm.

603
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:38,039
Speaker 3: Then you would have more teams scheduling like LSU does.

604
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, make it, make it black and white at least

605
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:44,400
on how the power rankings are there. And then of

606
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,000
course there's a little bit you know, there's going to

607
00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:48,960
always going to be a human element to everything, because

608
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,079
I'm sure it would take in consideration to like coaches,

609
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:54,279
bulls and a peoples and all that stuff, like those

610
00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:56,599
things would be those things would be in there. But

611
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,960
I think just some sort of clear struck sure. But please,

612
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:03,640
for the love of God, don't take don't make it

613
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:08,480
completely one hundred percent about record, because as a college

614
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:11,640
football fan, as a fan of good football and just

615
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:14,119
being excited for the for the preseason and the lead

616
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,160
up on everything, Man, don't don't they will take away

617
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,079
those big games if you make it about that. If

618
00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:24,079
you make one loss ruin an entire year, you always say, yeah, well,

619
00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:27,480
twelve teams, like you still control your own destiny, which

620
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:28,279
is great. There was.

621
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: I mean, was it the year that Michigan won the

622
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:32,160
Natty A couple of years ago, they didn't play a

623
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:34,960
Power for team in the non con Yeah, I'm pretty

624
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,799
sure right, they play.

625
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, because that was the that was the Jim Harball suspension.

626
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:42,240
Not remember they basically let hit Michigan pick which games

627
00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:45,279
he was suspended, and it was like bowling Green and

628
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,960
Acron and teams like that. Yeah, because they didn't have

629
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:54,559
any Power five non conference and they won the Natty.

630
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,480
That's why, in my opinion, strength of schedule doesn't matter

631
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:58,960
in the current format that we have.

632
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,559
Speaker 3: It doesn't. No, it doesn't.

633
00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:02,359
Speaker 7: You go ten and two, you're one of the top

634
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,200
three teams in your conference, You're making the playoffs.

635
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:04,599
Speaker 5: That's it.

636
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 8: Uh.

637
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 5: Power for championship games, should you be penalized?

638
00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: We've had some.

639
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: I mean Georgia two years ago, Alabama in the SEC

640
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,200
championship game, they don't get in, then they beat the

641
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:21,920
hell out of Florida State in the Orange Bold to

642
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,480
prove a point.

643
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 7: And then this year flip it SMU was not penalized.

644
00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:30,680
They lost that conference game to Clemson. They both get in,

645
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,000
so we've seen it both ways.

646
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 5: They wanted what they just wanted sun shmiw SCHMIW. Yeah.

647
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:40,519
I don't think if you if you make the conference

648
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:45,200
championship in a power in the top ones, top conferences,

649
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,880
you should not be penalized for that. You shouldn't be

650
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,880
kicked out of the playoffs.

651
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:53,039
Speaker 2: Uh, all right, when we come back, We've got Brett

652
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:55,079
inside the bay U four chat and wants to know

653
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,960
about your feelings during two thousand and seven whenever we

654
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:02,240
started to find out, Oh no, they're going to mess

655
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:03,480
up and let us back in this thing.

656
00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:04,119
Speaker 5: Let's go.

657
00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: I think I've told that story plenty times before. We'll

658
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,440
get Flynn's side.

659
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 5: I also want to bring up, just to quick some

660
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,079
snippets on maybe one of the most impactful athletes of

661
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,160
all time that is doing some things right now that

662
00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:18,960
is crazy.

663
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,119
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll have all that for you when we come

664
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:21,720
back here on.

665
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,119
Speaker 1: Off the bench.

666
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:29,079
Speaker 2: All right, speaking of champions speaking of playoff rankings, teams

667
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:30,839
they get to the finish line, how about the team

668
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,680
over at Tommy's Windows, doors and siding.

669
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:35,359
Speaker 3: The website is go Tommy's.

670
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,759
Speaker 2: That is g E A U X Tommy's as Tommy

671
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:40,559
with a Y, Go Tommy's dot Com where They just

672
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,880
won Best Windows in the City of Baton Rouge, and

673
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,200
that is in The Advocate twenty twenty five.

674
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,759
Speaker 3: The first time to them, not the first time they've

675
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:52,160
won an award. They have a lot of banners. Oh

676
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:57,960
they basically they look like the New York Games Intimidator.

677
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,519
Speaker 5: So website look at that. Unbelievable as well.

678
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:03,759
Speaker 2: And you know what, just like the Intimidator, they got

679
00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:05,799
to add. They got to add to the website because

680
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:07,599
they don't even have their twenty twenty five up yet.

681
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:09,799
Speaker 3: Always winning awards. Go Tommy's that god.

682
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, go to their website, see the gallery, see the testimonials.

683
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,759
Reliable company, the good people. They're gonna do right, make

684
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:20,599
your house more injury efficient, great products, go to Go

685
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:23,279
Tommies dot com two two five, two five oh eight eight.

686
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:35,319
Speaker 1: Eight, two thousand and seven Champs Purple and Gold to

687
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,160
the Core. This is off the Bench with Hester and Flynn,

688
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,759
Matt and Rouge's go to for all things Louisiana sports.

689
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:47,359
Speaker 2: Not you, man, I feel you inside the Bay four chat,

690
00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:50,240
he says, Damn Jake. You know the Braves won fourteen

691
00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:55,359
straight NLS championships and you go with the Yankees It's

692
00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:55,920
a good point.

693
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,119
Speaker 3: We didn't finish.

694
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: You know, thirteen of those got one in nine before

695
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,160
the Braves won the last one a couple of years ago.

696
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,599
And I'm still hurt by Jim Larrets. Man couldn't do

697
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:10,679
that again if he tried. Man couldn't do that again

698
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,719
hit that home run if he had one hundred more attempts.

699
00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:15,239
I'm one of those people that hope nothing but bad

700
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,840
things sometimes for Jim Larrets. I'm gonna be honest with you,

701
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,039
same thing I say about Mitch Williams and Lenny Dyksha

702
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:24,519
and rest in peace, Darren Dalton and that whole Phillies

703
00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:25,039
crew as well.

704
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,519
Speaker 3: So good point. Good point.

705
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: Not you man, you were blabbering about something. Yeah, I

706
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,119
don't think something about athletes.

707
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really wanted to talk about like we doesn't

708
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,280
probably get the headlines down here on many of the shows,

709
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,440
or definitely this show, but we really need to start

710
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,800
paying attention to one of the more more impactful I'm

711
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,440
not gonna say the greatest, but probably one of the greatest,

712
00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:54,159
have one of the greatest impacts in their sport in

713
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,079
the history of sports for what they're doing. That's the

714
00:34:58,159 --> 00:35:01,360
one Caitlin Clark. We're gonna bring up w n B

715
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,679
A talk about just for a minute right here, all right,

716
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,760
I does not know that that's where you were going.

717
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,119
You didn't, all right. I was scrolling, all right, So

718
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,440
I was scrolling. I was scrolling. I brought up golf, and.

719
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: We're going to break up like tennis or cycling.

720
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Speaker 5: We're going to bring up cycling in a couple of weeks.

721
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,039
N B A no, no, w n B A. All right,

722
00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:26,480
So I want you I'm going to tell you some stats,

723
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:27,920
and I want you to think of an athlete that

724
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,920
has a has had a bigger, bigger positive bigger, a bigger.

725
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,239
If you're going to crack out everything, I'm rested for now,

726
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,599
it's gonna be like a nine hour show. It's uh,

727
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,239
there's nobody that's had a bigger impact or.

728
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:51,599
Speaker 3: Sorry, oh good good, I'm good. I'm sorry. I apologize.

729
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 5: Are y'all laughing at the w n B A no, A.

730
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,199
Speaker 3: Little bit of a bigger.

731
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,039
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of both for me, because I mean, look,

732
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:00,239
I mess up boards all time.

733
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 5: Sure well, it's kind of like a combination of like

734
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,760
big deal and bigger. So I just got like kind

735
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,800
of Yeah, I'm a little list exic. It's fine. Sorry, sorry,

736
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:11,079
I want you to think of an athletes have a

737
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:15,440
bigger impact on their game. So, before she got to

738
00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:18,719
the WNBA, and we're talking about like the ESPN National

739
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,800
Game for the WNBA was averaging like three hundred and

740
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,719
ninety four thousand viewers. Her rookie year, they averaged one

741
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,880
point one to nine million on it, which is like

742
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,119
a two hundred and two percent drop. Twenty two of

743
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,079
her games exceeded a million people in viewership. Of that

744
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:40,000
she was televised her debut is like two point one

745
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:44,800
three million. In comparison, their games were one point one

746
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:47,960
eight million average viewers. Every other team was three hundred

747
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,559
and ninety four thousand viewers. And then again in twenty

748
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:53,320
twenty five, like they aired one of her games on ABC,

749
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,039
two point two million was the average viewership of that game,

750
00:36:57,079 --> 00:37:03,519
It like spiked to like two point eight million. And

751
00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:05,760
then when she was hurt, the average for this season

752
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,440
has been one point eight million viewership. Now it's like

753
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:12,719
a fifty something percent jump from last year, but when

754
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,039
she got hurt and she wasn't playing, it dropped over

755
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:18,960
fifty percent to like eight hundred thousand viewers. So you

756
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:22,800
go from one person playing getting amazing ratings, which they

757
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,840
had never done. They averaged two years before over three

758
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,400
hundred thousand viewers. Now they're averaging one point eight and

759
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,079
then when she gets hurt, it drops back down over

760
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,400
fifty five percent. Now, tell me if there is an

761
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,000
athlete has that has ever had an impact on their

762
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:42,880
particular sport, like Caitlin Clark has an appreciate and she's

763
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,599
not even leading the league in a lot of things,

764
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,679
Like you see the threes, she's not even top three

765
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,360
and threes, like average threes made per game, like she's

766
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,320
leading the league or tied for like assists or something.

767
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,639
She's playing great, and she's like leading and like all

768
00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:57,280
Star picks and all that stuff. Not saying that, but

769
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,320
like having that sort of impact and not even like

770
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,719
and she's famous for three's not even leading the league

771
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:03,840
in average threes per game.

772
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Speaker 3: I would.

773
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: Burden Magic the NBA was struggling a little bit. That's

774
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,519
a combo. It's not one singular person. It's the only

775
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:16,159
one I can kind of. When burd and Magic had

776
00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:19,559
their rivalry and they were going back and forth, Lakers Celtics,

777
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,000
the NBA needed them badly.

778
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: They had to have them. And that's really I don't

779
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:26,800
know if y'all have another one.

780
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,159
Speaker 2: That's the only one, maybe Sosa Maguire in their home

781
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,360
run race that they had, right they were going back

782
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,239
and forth to try to beat Roger Merris's single season record.

783
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,000
That kind of saved baseball after the baseball strike in

784
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:43,039
the early nineties. But that was because of circumstance, right,

785
00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:45,239
it was because you had to strike. Baseball was a

786
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,840
little boring at the time, and here come these two

787
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,840
guys who may or may not have been on pds,

788
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:52,199
who cares, are hitting the ball far and it was fun.

789
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,280
But like to your point, all those have been tandem.

790
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,000
Hasn't been singular.

791
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 6: There's one little the only thing I can think of.

792
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 8: And maybe this is just me because I'm not like

793
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,320
a big golf follower, but one that I like. I

794
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,639
don't know what it was like before him, but Tiger

795
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:15,000
Woods kind of put golf, and I don't know, it's a.

796
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,559
Speaker 3: Good one, so Tiger would be Tiger still has it, Yeah,

797
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,119
long time.

798
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 7: He's kind of doing it now golf like since standpoint,

799
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,000
Scotty's kind of but he's bringing a lot of eyeballs too,

800
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:30,159
because you always want to see that one dominant guy

801
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,119
like to her point, like I mean, after Tiger got old,

802
00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:35,559
like Scott, he's kind of the next guy that's bringing

803
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:36,079
everybody in.

804
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 8: I just didn't really know anything about golf until Tiger

805
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:42,599
Woods was a thing. Like I was kind of young

806
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,559
whenever that whole scandal happened. But like I that's the

807
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:49,199
only thing that I ever really knew.

808
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,159
Speaker 2: About it was the only thing I knew was Hal

809
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,599
Sutton and David Toms for from report, and I watched

810
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:54,360
them when they played.

811
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 5: I mean, it was a middle aged white dude sport

812
00:39:57,039 --> 00:39:58,559
from whoever played it or watched it.

813
00:39:58,679 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: Really.

814
00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 5: I remember I would have it on when I was

815
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,199
grown up and it was so boring. But then when

816
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,960
Tiger came on, I was like, all right, I can

817
00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:07,719
watch this for sure, and he made such like his

818
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,199
impact probably great greater than the Caitlin impact. This is

819
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,760
a very short term situation, but that is like when

820
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,280
you have the top like fifty golfers playing right now

821
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,119
that all like gush over tiger Woods, like Scotti Scheffler.

822
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:26,679
You're seeing Warrabbit's got tiger Wood shoes on, Like that's

823
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,239
like that's the impact he had.

824
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I like for golf, now you kind of know

825
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:35,719
more of the people, like I know Jordan's Spee, Scottie

826
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:39,960
and Brooks, Kapika or I don't even know if it's Kapika.

827
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 6: I don't even that's what I'm saying, like I've only

828
00:40:41,519 --> 00:40:42,559
ever seen it, but.

829
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, or maybe even like tennis when Pete Sampras and

830
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:49,519
Agustine maybe I was Andre.

831
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you were one of the other uh MESSI

832
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,360
had a big impact on the MLS, right, Yeah, I've

833
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,239
been like yeah, but.

834
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: To your point, like nobody to what you're talking about

835
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,800
with Kaitlyn Clark, nobody when he comes with.

836
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:04,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, you all kind of like poke fun of me

837
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,320
for like bringing it up, but like it's a real.

838
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,119
Speaker 3: Now, that's a real had nothing to do with it

839
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,039
was the word you made it.

840
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:13,039
Speaker 5: Well. I mispronound sports all the time, I know, but.

841
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:15,159
Speaker 2: It's funny because then you kept saying it right, but

842
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,559
it still sounded like it was wrong.

843
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:19,559
Speaker 3: Just what made it fun exactly?

844
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: I will I've told this story with Taylor and Laundry

845
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,000
in the room, but I'll tell it with you.

846
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:27,559
Speaker 3: So my father in law, who played in the NFL.

847
00:41:27,639 --> 00:41:30,159
Speaker 2: His brother played a decade plus in the NFL, my

848
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:32,039
brother in law who played college football. They've both been

849
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:35,039
a tunne of LSU games, so they've seen crazy atmospheres.

850
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 5: Right.

851
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: They went to the Masters one year and they followed

852
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:44,360
Tiger and they said, it's not even close. The best feeling,

853
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,039
the most electricity they've ever felt in a sporting event.

854
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:50,199
And again they've been everywhere they've seen everything. Was the

855
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,199
crowd following Tiger Woods to Augusta. They said it was

856
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,039
you couldn't even compare it to anything.

857
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,639
Speaker 5: Yes, oh my god, all Tiger fans, that was such

858
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:03,719
a you for to day watching them do that. I

859
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,199
can only imagine what it was like walking through that seat.

860
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: I said, it was incredible. They said it didn't matter

861
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:11,840
where they've been, what they had seen, nothing compared to that.

862
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:16,440
So to your point, all right, the show is only

863
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:23,199
going to get biggerer as we continue to deal. We'll

864
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,440
wrap it up when we come back here, OTB, I mean,

865
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,159
trust me, just give me enough time and I'll say

866
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:32,079
a word that does not exist, all right, Something that

867
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:37,760
does exists is doci words see exactly letters why you

868
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,280
should go for dose And no matter what you're doing

869
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,159
Tiger fans, if you're sitting there and you're tailgating for

870
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,280
a baseball run, if you're watching the last out in Omaha,

871
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,800
if you're getting ready, you know, to watch a game

872
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,760
in Clemson, South Carolina. You're in the parking lot, tailgating,

873
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,840
whatever it is. Do Sekis always brings the flavor, the

874
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:59,159
vibes and the victory energy. So you should go for

875
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,320
dose and joy a dose sequis, which is the gold

876
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,320
standards a beer.

877
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,159
Speaker 5: All right, let's hump day today. We got a national

878
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,239
championship celebration. We got a new intimidator company. Go to

879
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,159
your local wherever you like to buy groceries, beer, whatever

880
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,880
it is. Go get some do sacquis. Start icing it down. Now,

881
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,440
have some cold fresh Mexican logger. Slice up some limes.

882
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,440
Get ready to roll. Cheer on the tigers tonight. Celebrate

883
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:25,920
them with doseaquies. Go for dose.

884
00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:36,119
Speaker 1: Tigers, turn talkers. This is off the bench. I'm going

885
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,400
back to five or five.

886
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:45,679
Speaker 3: If it's a seven hour flys or forty five minute drive.

887
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:52,039
Speaker 1: In my imgination, new ways and line on your side

888
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,679
with your runs between your thighs.

889
00:43:58,599 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 5: Come swere.

890
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:08,599
Speaker 3: Master stop be dropped little bit wacky, waited for that song.

891
00:44:08,639 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 5: That's the song you wanted to wait for.

892
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: You've never heard five of five by Monkeys.

893
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,679
Speaker 5: I mean, but like, there's a lot of great songs

894
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,679
up there. Yeah, and this is one of This was

895
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,760
not a bat drop. It's a bad song.

896
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: This is I hate target Monkeys couldn't be me.

897
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:26,039
Speaker 5: I hate the way I pronounced words.

898
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 2: Dude, are you being Are you gonna getivity fine it?

899
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:31,440
We will have a kangaroo court, my man, and we'll

900
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,559
throw sensitivity fine right up on that board.

901
00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 5: See if I ever try to lead a segment again,

902
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,559
I can't deal with this Matt song Like, this is

903
00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:42,880
what I get for carry in the show. That's right back, hurts.

904
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: Kangaroo courts going up tomorrow. I'm getting your list every

905
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:54,920
every time you heard something, it's gonna be a sensitivity fine.

906
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 6: Five dollars, five dollars scenes reasonable.

907
00:44:59,000 --> 00:44:59,599
Speaker 3: We'll put it in a.

908
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:02,679
Speaker 2: Pot at the end of the month, we'll put it

909
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,440
all together and we'll go have a little OTB lunch

910
00:45:06,039 --> 00:45:07,360
on the kangaroo court.

911
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: It feels like you're gonna be paying.

912
00:45:10,119 --> 00:45:14,519
Speaker 5: For it even really know what you're talking about right now?

913
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: You know, like a kangaroo court is in the NFL,

914
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,480
Like I didn't.

915
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 5: Have that a fine system. Yeah, kangaroo court.

916
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 3: That's what we did.

917
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:24,079
Speaker 2: Like everybody came up in the room, came up with

918
00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:26,679
the fines. It was like a handclap was because they

919
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,840
hopped up. There was a kangaro Never heard that before. No,

920
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:32,519
I've heard what you like, you talked about it, but

921
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:33,559
I just kind of went with it.

922
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,559
Speaker 6: Y'all. That video real quick, we have like fifteen seconds.

923
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:40,280
That video of Joe Burrow throwing a baseball gave me

924
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:40,679
the egg.

925
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:48,199
Speaker 3: Somebody was like, whoa also never adjust it was shocked.

926
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 6: Gave me the eck.

927
00:45:49,199 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: It was shocking.

928
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I promise you will break down the fells trade tomorrow.

929
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,159
Join us tomorrow morning, OTB.

930
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: Have a good off the bench.

931
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Speaker 6: We have two I mean they traded wait, what what

932
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,480
was it? They traded CJ. McCollum for a younger CJ.

933
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 2: They literally got my column for Jordan blind They kind

934
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,719
of did, Yeah, we'll get Jordan's take on it maybe tomorrow.

935
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