WEBVTT 1 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:30.480 Welcome to the one hundred and fifty sixth episode of 2 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:33.920 the Supernatural Current Studies podcast. 3 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:35.960 So Studiously Paranormal. 4 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:40.520 My name is Jas, my name is Jason Knight, host 5 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:46.119 of the show, and with me as always is mister Oscar, spector, 6 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:52.240 producer extraordinaire and podcast co host Oscar. What has been 7 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:56.039 going on since our last our last episode? What was 8 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:58.759 our last episode? I'm trying to remember, Oh, you got 9 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:02.439 the Yeah, that's the dream Man. That was a kooky 10 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:06.040 little episode. The dream scenario guy dreams, right, yeah, the movie. Yeah, 11 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:09.159 dream scenario. I really want to see long Legs. Speaking 12 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:12.120 of that's going to be our next view. Is it 13 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:14.280 really have you seen it yet? No? No, Okay, it's out. 14 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:16.560 It's out. It's out this weekend, that's what. It's not 15 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:18.560 out yet. No, I think it's out this weekend. So 16 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:20.480 we're recording on a Thursday, So it's coming out. Are 17 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:23.280 you going to uh to the movies to see it? 18 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:25.959 You know? I actually I would consider that. Yeah, I 19 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:27.439 avoid the movies like the plague. 20 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:30.519 There you do, but I would. Meanwhile, I've gone twice 21 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:31.120 this week already. 22 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:34.200 Right, you're gonna go on your way home from I saw. 23 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:36.840 Kevin Costler's Western movie yesterday. 24 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:38.959 Okay, wait, wait, all right, we have we have sown. 25 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:41.719 So let's back up one second. The last. So, the 26 00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:44.680 last movies I've seen in the theater were Late Night 27 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:45.159 with the Devil. 28 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:49.400 That's right, awesome, fantastic. You saw that Despicable movie? Oh no, no, 29 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:53.439 that wasn't your Ghostbusters. It's terrible, right, did not like it. 30 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:56.640 I like some of the the fanfare, cool from you know, 31 00:01:56.680 --> 00:02:00.040 being an eighties child, but uh, otherwise garbage. But I 32 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:03.879 would go see Long Legs for sure. Yeah, show dream 33 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:05.959 snare right. That was our last episode. So we're back. 34 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:08.159 What's been going on? It's been about a month. What's 35 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:09.560 been going on with Shoe, Well. 36 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:11.400 It hasn't been a month's been recorded after that, but 37 00:02:11.439 --> 00:02:13.319 I will what I will say is that since then, 38 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:16.400 the time then shifted. Okay, guys, by the time this 39 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:19.280 comes out, there's gonna be other holidays that have passed. 40 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:22.599 But in our time period, fourth of July just recently 41 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:24.159 passed on. 42 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:25.159 This timeline, it did. 43 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:27.960 Right, it's a recent thing that just happened. We're in 44 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:29.639 it's not even mid July. 45 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:34.560 Yet, right, Yeah, last week, last week, last week, not 46 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:35.360 basically it was. 47 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:37.479 It was exactly last week because we were going to 48 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:39.599 record last week, and I'm like, oh, shure, I still 49 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:41.439 come over and You're like, it's both of July, bro, 50 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:42.520 you just come, I'll hang out. 51 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:44.280 I'm like, okay, you want to blow shit up and 52 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:44.759 get drunk? 53 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:48.680 Right right. I did not get drunk, but I would 54 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:51.439 say I have fun. I had to hear at Jay's place, 55 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:55.639 and for the first time, I think ever, I'm not 56 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:57.800 one hundred percent because I don't remember my childhood that well. 57 00:02:58.280 --> 00:02:59.840 I went to a fireworks store. 58 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:03.879 That okay, this was great, so let me just set 59 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:06.840 it up a little bit. So we did some barbecuing, 60 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:11.280 we were doing some drinking. I had fireworks here, not 61 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:15.439 a ton, but yeah, for what we usually get, it 62 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:17.319 wasn't a ton. Right. When we were coming home from 63 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:20.080 New Orleans, we stopped in southern Illinois and there was 64 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:22.240 like a roadside vendor, this cool old dude, and we 65 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:23.960 bought a bunch of fireworks, brought him back home. Then 66 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:26.520 we went to a place up in Wisconsin bought some more. 67 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:28.240 But I like to kind of go back and forth 68 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.000 with the neighbors, right, like who's got the better shit? 69 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:33.319 So I wanted to get all these mortars things that 70 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:36.800 opened up really nice flowers and things, and that's just so, 71 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:39.520 that's what we're doing, having fun. Kids are lighting shit off. 72 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:42.919 And but that wasn't enough. No, no, no, So my 73 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:46.919 cousin Cory and Jenny, we're here, Corlando and Bond Quaker 74 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:50.520 from listeners who have been with us for years might 75 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:56.319 remember them. Corey said we need more. So then you 76 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:58.960 guys disappeared. He was like, you want to come with us? 77 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:01.319 I'm like, yeah, sure, like you know, thinking that I've 78 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:05.240 been to a fire hoarser and I did, and I 79 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:09.039 equally part see why people are jealous of our country 80 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:12.520 and why they hate us, and why why they think 81 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:15.879 so little of us too. Explain no, just the general 82 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:19.319 atmosphere of the people that congregated there, you know. 83 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:22.120 I mean, what is that like? Explain that? 84 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:26.839 No, just very like very midwestern kind of like I 85 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:30.000 don't say bluegrass is not right, but like very yeah. 86 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:33.959 A little bit. Really it was a very busy. 87 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:37.360 It was basically a supermarket. Think of a supermarket, but 88 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:40.079 we just firewors everywhere instead of whatever you pick them 89 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:42.759 out just like just like a cart. Yeah, I had 90 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:44.720 I had a little basket because I only bought a 91 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.839 couple of things, and uh, it was fun. It was 92 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.199 like buy one, get one on everything, and then buy one, 93 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:51.959 get two on the expensive stuff. So like they were 94 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:53.920 just giving the ship like basically giving them out. 95 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:55.480 Because this is on fourth of July. 96 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:57.399 They got to clean out and your cousin got like 97 00:04:57.399 --> 00:04:59.800 four hundred dollars worth of stuff, no problem. 98 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:02.240 Which is both go. So he yeah, right, doubled it 99 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:04.959 doubled up in Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a 100 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:07.959 lot I didn't know, like a lot of things I 101 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:09.879 didn't know. It required idea, which makes sense and in 102 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:12.319 retrospect like, oh yeah there are explosives. I guess you'd 103 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:15.199 need some sort of idea or sign of waiver. And 104 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:16.759 so that was that was interesting. 105 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:20.879 Yeah, so it was fine otherwise, so it was my 106 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:21.360 first time. 107 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:22.439 It was cool. 108 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:26.600 And then when we blew him up, we held our 109 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:27.600 ground with your neighbors. 110 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:31.199 Absolutely the stuff Corey brought back, yeah, yes, there was 111 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:32.079 some intense stuff. 112 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:35.439 You guys couldn't even wait till dark. No, you guys 113 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:37.759 were like, just wait till it gets dark, but it's 114 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:38.199 getting dark. 115 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:41.040 That got eight thirty or nine. That's the one day 116 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:43.079 a year I don't feel like a forty seven year old. 117 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:45.160 I'm back to like twelve, right, you know, I just 118 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:45.439 love it. 119 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:48.519 Yeah, but we also grew up, you know, loving that shit. 120 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:50.800 A lot of kids don't do that no more these days. 121 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:54.959 So I remember in Bridgeport on the south side. Yeah, 122 00:05:55.600 --> 00:06:00.639 it was like it was a war zone. It was 123 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:06.319 literally a fucking war zone. Yeah. We had Chinatown. It's 124 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:09.000 right on the border of Bridgeport and it kind of 125 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:11.920 intermixes with Bridgeport quite a bit. So you had like 126 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:14.279 all these Chinese dudes like running around on the ground 127 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:17.360 on their bellies, launching bottle rockets at each other and 128 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:20.319 at you and at neighbors houses, and there's like a 129 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:23.120 war It was literally like a war man. And uh, 130 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:26.920 you know we're talking about lines of firecrackers that go 131 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:31.959 completely down the entire city block. Yeah, you know, homemade 132 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:35.079 shows that that would rival something that like, you know, 133 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:38.920 Wrigley Field or Socks Park. It was amazing. So that's 134 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:40.879 what I grew up around, and I just loved it. 135 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:44.160 And to this day, I have no problem spending money 136 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:46.439 on fire X, love blowing them off, Love that my 137 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:47.680 kids are into it, you know. 138 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:49.720 And he doesn't say you're a kid, your youngest who 139 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:54.639 is eleven night. He has almost become like a rare 140 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:57.240 kid in the sense that a lot of kids have 141 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:00.240 do not go up with firewars the same way, like 142 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:02.439 it's being phased out a bit more like for them. 143 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:05.160 They enjoyed the parade, they enjoy other aspects, but they're 144 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:06.560 usually in bed by night time. 145 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:07.160 Wow. 146 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:09.319 No not us, no, not us no, no, no, no no. 147 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:11.759 I try to find every scrap of something I can 148 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:13.600 blow up. Yes, when I was a kid, and it 149 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:16.399 was always in the alleys, it was never we never 150 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:20.800 had driveways. So this is a Chicago residency, so there's no driveways, 151 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:23.639 and so just an alleys everywhere. We take our bikes 152 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:25.240 and we just see other people blow everything up. No 153 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:27.040 matter where we go. I need di Russian, pick a Dirrectionian. 154 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:27.959 You're gonna see a lot of shit. 155 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:32.079 Yeah. I used to be big in collecting the duds 156 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:32.879 the next day. 157 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:35.959 Really so again in you try to break them and 158 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:36.480 see more. 159 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:39.399 Yes, I have a story. So again going back to 160 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:42.639 Bridgeport the next day, this war zone, it was like 161 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:45.360 a treasure treasure trove for me to find all these duds, 162 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:50.360 rockets and you know, shells and whatever was spent you 163 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:52.519 know then a lot of these things had these bright, 164 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:54.800 colorful packages, and I would just put them in garbage 165 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:57.399 bags and bring them home. Yeah, and my dad and 166 00:07:57.439 --> 00:07:59.199 stuff was like, what are you doing with this shit? 167 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:02.000 Get rid of it. One time I collected a bunch 168 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:04.399 of duds and things that just fell to the ground, 169 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:07.240 and I cracked them open and I dumped out all 170 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:10.920 of the gunpowder into a nice pile. My dumb ass. 171 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:13.160 And again, I must be my son's age, like eleven, 172 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.120 twelve years old, maybe even ten. I take a match 173 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.920 and I'm on my knees and I'm looking over this 174 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:22.680 little pile of gunpowder of shit that I took out 175 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:25.759 of these fireworks, and I lit a match and I 176 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:30.240 put it to that pile right through my face. I 177 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:32.399 must have closed my eyes at the last second. It 178 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:35.240 could have blinded me. Yeah, I had like sulfur burns 179 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:38.600 on my face. I singed, my eyebrows and my eyelashes. 180 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:42.919 That thing that flared up must have went two feet 181 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:45.879 over my head, damn, and my face was right in it. Oh, 182 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:48.759 it was great. I mean, that's what we did. Crazy, 183 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:49.399 They don't know. 184 00:08:49.720 --> 00:08:53.080 Yeah, that's why the commercials and that the era the 185 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:56.279 television were often asked their parents, it's eight pm. 186 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:57.240 Do you know where your kids are? 187 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:01.960 Nope, nope, judge that's why people had through my parents 188 00:09:02.759 --> 00:09:05.600 know you have children? You you brought a human I 189 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:11.039 did make that trends. So before we get to your 190 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:20.000 pyromatic maniac son of yours, I sent you. I send 191 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:23.440 you three pictures right now. Yeah, there was an accident 192 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:26.039 in Chicago, a fireworks accident with this guy. 193 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:29.159 Had that happened to him? Fucking ship Oscar? 194 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:32.799 Yeah? Had that happened to him? Not too far from 195 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:35.679 where my brother lives, where I used to live in 196 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:36.480 the North Side. 197 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:40.320 Is that all? Yeah? It is? Oh, this is the 198 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:42.000 guy that the mortar uh huh. 199 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:44.159 He went over to stand over because it stopped, and 200 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:45.639 he went to stand over to see if he could 201 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:47.720 relight it, and the mortar went right to his face. 202 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:50.120 And that's what happened. There is no head left. I know, 203 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:52.759 how did you get these photos? I have a police 204 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:56.600 officer front, so I read the because I mean, like you, 205 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:58.159 everyone read it. Everyone's reading it. 206 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:01.440 Yeah, of course that's what happens to him though fire 207 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:03.919 works like cautionary tail there folks, Oh. 208 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:08.879 My god, I know Oscar he's got no fucking head. 209 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:09.320 I know. 210 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:13.960 I don't want to truck you. That's that's a real one. Yeah, 211 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:15.960 that's from the scene. 212 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:27.080 Oh mm hmm hmmm. And you know what's really fucking 213 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:29.440 crazy is I didn't see these obviously. I saw the 214 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:32.000 picture of the dude, right, you know, just just a 215 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:34.919 normal kind of normal Yeah, normal kind of skinny looking dude. 216 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:41.360 And holy shit, yeah, at least it was instant, I guess, God, 217 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:41.759 I hope. 218 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:47.039 So, yeah, I mean, this is something you can't even 219 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:49.639 describe a picture like this. No, no, you can't. I 220 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:52.440 can't believe that it's the dude I read about. Yeah, 221 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:54.320 I figure you wouldn't know that story. So I don't 222 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:56.000 think I want to put these. I mean, we're talking 223 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:57.919 about them. There's probably people out there like fucking. 224 00:10:57.799 --> 00:10:59.559 Oh yeah, No, I don't think we should. 225 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:04.080 That's pretty pretty pretty now, Yeah, this looks like it 226 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:07.440 could have been your next door neighbor the garage, right, exactly. 227 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:10.799 So many backyards are so many looks like the alley 228 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:16.720 we had well waited to rail the show Oscar. 229 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.000 Who we're talking about fire archs and shit more appropriate 230 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:21.720 and it's the only appropriate time to bring that up. 231 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:27.399 Yeah, listen. I yeah, I don't even know. There's no head, 232 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:31.679 there's no head left, and you'll see it all. Yeahs, 233 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:33.879 I'm not gonna thank you for sharing that one. I'm 234 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:36.799 gonna have nightmares on that. Maybe I'll teach you that 235 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:41.080 gunpowder before it. But you're so I mean, how wrong, 236 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:44.639 how it could have gone? So? Yeah? Right there? Well 237 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:51.159 you remember tattoo Joe, Yes, yes, uh, he's a very 238 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:54.360 thankfully and he works with his hands as his job. Yeah, 239 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:58.639 I mean has an incredibly successful tattoo shop in Chicago, 240 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:02.960 the Tat Cave. Go check him out, kid Joe. He 241 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:06.039 took one of those mortars and he held the tube 242 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:10.519 above his head. What and that the tube exploded and 243 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:15.480 he lost his right hand ring, finger and pinky and 244 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:17.039 they had to sew it back on the sow, that 245 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:20.919 whole fucking chunk back on. Wow. And now that's his hand, 246 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:23.759 that was his tattoo hand. Now he's he's still able, 247 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:27.039 lucky that, I mean, yeah, he does. They did a 248 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:28.759 good job on him. The surgeons did a great job 249 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:30.519 on him. The same thing, I mean, held that mortar 250 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.960 above his head, why don't fucking know? R and the 251 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:36.080 he had it on an angle so he didn't the 252 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:40.039 mortar didn't leave the tube. Fucking tube exploded, took off 253 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:45.759 those two fingers. That's crazy, that's insane. Wow. Yeah, we don't. 254 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:47.960 We don't really get fireworks that are that powerful. 255 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:52.240 No, but yeah, crazy. 256 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:55.159 And I think it was what's called an X there's 257 00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:58.360 like one X, two x three X, and they essentially 258 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:02.039 shoot up like order half in full sticks of dynamite 259 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:04.759 depending on what X you get. And that's what he 260 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:08.320 had exploded. So I could only imagine what this poor 261 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:10.039 bastard had that took his head off. I don't know, 262 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:10.559 I don't know. 263 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:13.600 What he had obviously was a legal estate. Probably, yeah, 264 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:14.120 I need know to. 265 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:14.919 Drink a whiskey. 266 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:22.159 Yeah you know that. Uh so, making it hopefully a 267 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:25.519 little funnier. Now, your son, after we'd finished everything, you 268 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:27.240 went into the pool and you were drunkie. You were 269 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:29.960 drunken happy. You warmed up your pool. You went into it. 270 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:31.960 You kept saying, okna come in. I'm like, I don't 271 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:34.360 have shorts, and then I was like, that's okay. I 272 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:37.639 always forget to bring something. And then your son comes 273 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:40.600 out into the backyard. This after we blew up all 274 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:43.000 the fireworks, and you were asking me, go find fireworks. 275 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:44.240 It's gotta be some. And we did. 276 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.480 We find a surprisingly amount of little things that we 277 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:47.480 could still pop off and. 278 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:49.759 Explode, and we did. We did those. 279 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:53.679 After we did those, your son took the blowtorch whatever 280 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:57.200 we were using and started setting everything on fire. I 281 00:13:57.240 --> 00:14:00.000 do in the backyard. So what I mean by everything, 282 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:03.360 I mean like anything that was the packaging or the 283 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:06.200 boxes of where the fireworks came out of. 284 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:07.679 He was setting on fire. 285 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:10.799 At one point, the chair, one of the chairs of 286 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:13.799 launchers was on fire and I was like, I have 287 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.279 to take it out, and like I stopped it with 288 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:16.679 my foot. 289 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:17.120 Thank you. 290 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:19.960 After I did that, twenty minutes later he's setting that 291 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:22.559 the remains of what I put out back on fire. 292 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:24.799 I found it the next day, and it. 293 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:26.679 Kept asking you, like, Dad, can I sit this on fire? 294 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:28.399 You're like, no, Dad, can't set this on fire. 295 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:28.559 No. 296 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:30.919 At like twenty times You're like, yeah, fine, go ahead, 297 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:31.840 and he score. 298 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:33.559 Parenting. 299 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:36.320 He wears you down, he wears he down. 300 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:40.320 Yeah. I found that mess the next day. I wasn't ilted. Oh, 301 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:42.080 there was a lot to clean up, but a lot 302 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:45.000 to the pool was fucked. Yeah. It took a new 303 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:46.960 hours to clean right, guys. 304 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:49.679 He had the pool open, right, and he kept saying, like, 305 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:51.480 away from the pooluys, I don't wind anything falling into 306 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:54.279 the pool. Of course, things fell into the fucking poole 307 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:54.679 so bad. 308 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:59.919 One of them went so directly in it. It was 309 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:03.759 nothing but comical. Yeah. Yeah, the fourth of July, I 310 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:08.399 got blessed America. Ye we needed was a fucking eagle flyover. Man. 311 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:13.519 It's funny even though it was last week, Like I 312 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:17.440 totally forgot that that happened, like so much has happened since. Yeah, 313 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:19.559 it just knocked it right out of my head. Missying. 314 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:22.360 If it turns out to be an arsonist, we understand everything. 315 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.480 Give that kid a blowtorch and gunpowder for it. Did 316 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:29.159 he help you clean up? The day after? They did 317 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:32.559 that night? Later that night, oh, later on that my daughter, 318 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:35.279 her boyfriend Nico, they all went out there and they 319 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:37.600 took at least one big garbage bag of stuff out 320 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:40.480 to the damn the garbage canon. I guess that was 321 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:42.159 enough for them, because when I went out the next 322 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:44.000 day there was still a ton of shit. No. Yeah, 323 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:49.000 they were like, we're done. We did we did, assholes. Yeah, 324 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:53.759 that's kids are always like that though, for sure. But yeah, 325 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:55.480 you know, no good because I wasn't sure what to 326 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:58.879 talk about that fourth of July. Fantastic. 327 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:01.279 So if you're feeling when this happened, when this airs 328 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:03.200 three thousand years from now, I don't know when. 329 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:06.559 I'm thinking like September. I'm thinking this should be September. 330 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:09.759 When this airs, and you're feeling like, oh my god, 331 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:12.120 I haven't felt patriotic since last fourth of July. 332 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:15.080 Man, that was so long. It was only three months ago. Nope, 333 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:20.159 we got you. We're stories got from three months ago. Yeah, wondrous. 334 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:23.120 Love it, love it, Oscar. I've got a I've got 335 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:25.279 a fun one tonight. I can't wait to see what 336 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:28.639 you think, what your opinion is. Okay, I know tonight 337 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:33.639 yet again nothing, I didn't tell you anything. So with 338 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:35.759 that said, why don't we take a quick break. Let's 339 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:39.480 do it, refill our little whiskeys. Yes, and we're back. 340 00:16:39.759 --> 00:17:12.680 All right, listeners, welcome back to the show. Well, the 341 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:17.680 lights are turned down low, the ceremonial candle is lit, 342 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:22.880 and the drinks are flowing. Let's start this show, Oscar. 343 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:24.400 What are we what are we drinking here? It is 344 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:27.119 a whoa? You have the bottle. It is a Calumet 345 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.440 Farm sixteen year It's pretty good. I like it. I 346 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:33.400 like it too. It's the citation. It's named after a 347 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:37.000 after a horse, a triple triple crown winning horse citation, 348 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:39.359 and it's good one hundred and six proof. 349 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:42.400 Do you think the horse's kids get any of the royalties? 350 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:46.240 They should? They should, But I know that this it 351 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:48.519 smells stronger than but it is smoother when it goes 352 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:51.400 down though. Yeah, yeah, it was nice move. I like this. 353 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:54.839 And then we had nineteen barrels in this entire batch, 354 00:17:54.880 --> 00:17:58.000 so it's uh, it was a little pricey. Well, what's 355 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:01.599 a little pricey. It was a few hundred. It was 356 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:04.559 a celebratory bottle that I bought. 357 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:08.160 It's in the outakes, and then you're telling me not 358 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:08.519 to put. 359 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:13.440 It in it might be so yeah, there we go. 360 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:22.519 Oscar trure Falls. Educational institutions schools, right, they're typically regarded 361 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:26.400 as safe havens, right, No, not in America, not in Chicago, 362 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:29.240 not in America at all. You know that's a good point. 363 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:31.279 Should I bring up Columbine and every school after that? 364 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:35.839 Yeah? Yeah, good point. They should be because going off 365 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:38.440 right now, they should be safe havens. 366 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:39.680 Wait, they definitely should be. 367 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:47.200 Parents said their kids to school expecting top notch instruction, structure, safety, 368 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:52.880 and even some mild discipline when needed. Okay, school should 369 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:56.079 really and Katie and I we really believe this. It 370 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:58.400 should be an extension of the home and the home 371 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:01.920 and extension of the school, parents and teachers collaborating with 372 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:05.160 one another to ensure our kids grow to be well adjusted, 373 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:12.160 functioning adults with the skills needed to positively contribute to society. Okay, 374 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:18.480 schools should be far removed from tales of witchcraft, demonic possession, 375 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:24.359 and paranormal assaults. Right assaults, paranormal assaults. Okay, of course, 376 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:27.279 this shit don't belong in schools. Goes without saying, well, 377 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:33.319 Harry Potters in schools, fair touche. I'm sorry, I'm gonna 378 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:35.799 just end this whole thing. Oh yes, but this, yes, 379 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:39.119 but yeah, goes without saying. But this is the Supernatural 380 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:44.880 Occurrent Studies podcast, where things are never what they seem. Tonight, 381 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:48.160 our story takes us down to Miami, Florida, in the 382 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:52.960 late nineteen seventies, to the Little Havana neighborhood, where a 383 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:58.160 horrifying event took place at a military school called the 384 00:19:58.200 --> 00:20:06.559 Miami Aerospace Academy. Now, this instant incident, happily referred to 385 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:12.119 as the Miami Aerospaith Academy incident, whether it's real or not, 386 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:17.960 left the permanent staying on students' staff and emergency responders 387 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:22.880 who experienced it. And today, almost forty five years later, 388 00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:27.799 the story continues to captivate and terrify. And I want 389 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:29.440 you to keep in mind that as we go through 390 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:35.319 this story, there are many many eyewitnesses that saw firsthand 391 00:20:35.559 --> 00:20:43.240 what happened and vouch for its authenticity. We're talking police officers, firemen, reporters, teachers, 392 00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:47.119 not to mention, countless students, and there were even news 393 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:49.920 stories written about it. Actually, I left one of those 394 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:52.759 articles from the Miami News in the show notes, so 395 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:55.039 listeners make sure and check out the show notes for 396 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:57.559 this episode. I left quite a few things there for you. 397 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:03.759 So this event did happen, It is real. What it was, however, 398 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:09.960 is open for debate. Okay, So, in the days leading 399 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:15.440 up to Halloween nineteen seventy nine, something inexplicable occurred at 400 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:20.960 the Miami Aerospace Academy that defied all rational explanation, something 401 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:25.559