Speaker 1: Welcome to the one hundred and fifty sixth episode of
Speaker 1: the Supernatural Current Studies podcast.
Speaker 2: So Studiously Paranormal.
Speaker 1: My name is Jas, my name is Jason Knight, host
Speaker 1: of the show, and with me as always is mister Oscar, spector,
Speaker 1: producer extraordinaire and podcast co host Oscar. What has been
Speaker 1: going on since our last our last episode? What was
Speaker 1: our last episode? I'm trying to remember, Oh, you got
Speaker 1: the Yeah, that's the dream Man. That was a kooky
Speaker 1: little episode. The dream scenario guy dreams, right, yeah, the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: dream scenario. I really want to see long Legs. Speaking
Speaker 1: of that's going to be our next view. Is it
Speaker 1: really have you seen it yet? No? No, Okay, it's out.
Speaker 1: It's out. It's out this weekend, that's what. It's not
Speaker 1: out yet. No, I think it's out this weekend. So
Speaker 1: we're recording on a Thursday, So it's coming out. Are
Speaker 1: you going to uh to the movies to see it?
Speaker 1: You know? I actually I would consider that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: avoid the movies like the plague.
Speaker 2: There you do, but I would. Meanwhile, I've gone twice
Speaker 2: this week already.
Speaker 1: Right, you're gonna go on your way home from I saw.
Speaker 2: Kevin Costler's Western movie yesterday.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, wait, all right, we have we have sown.
Speaker 1: So let's back up one second. The last. So, the
Speaker 1: last movies I've seen in the theater were Late Night
Speaker 1: with the Devil.
Speaker 2: That's right, awesome, fantastic. You saw that Despicable movie? Oh no, no,
Speaker 2: that wasn't your Ghostbusters. It's terrible, right, did not like it.
Speaker 1: I like some of the the fanfare, cool from you know,
Speaker 1: being an eighties child, but uh, otherwise garbage. But I
Speaker 1: would go see Long Legs for sure. Yeah, show dream
Speaker 1: snare right. That was our last episode. So we're back.
Speaker 1: What's been going on? It's been about a month. What's
Speaker 1: been going on with Shoe, Well.
Speaker 2: It hasn't been a month's been recorded after that, but
Speaker 2: I will what I will say is that since then,
Speaker 2: the time then shifted. Okay, guys, by the time this
Speaker 2: comes out, there's gonna be other holidays that have passed.
Speaker 2: But in our time period, fourth of July just recently
Speaker 2: passed on.
Speaker 1: This timeline, it did.
Speaker 2: Right, it's a recent thing that just happened. We're in
Speaker 2: it's not even mid July.
Speaker 1: Yet, right, Yeah, last week, last week, last week, not
Speaker 1: basically it was.
Speaker 2: It was exactly last week because we were going to
Speaker 2: record last week, and I'm like, oh, shure, I still
Speaker 2: come over and You're like, it's both of July, bro,
Speaker 2: you just come, I'll hang out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you want to blow shit up and
Speaker 1: get drunk?
Speaker 2: Right right. I did not get drunk, but I would
Speaker 2: say I have fun. I had to hear at Jay's place,
Speaker 2: and for the first time, I think ever, I'm not
Speaker 2: one hundred percent because I don't remember my childhood that well.
Speaker 2: I went to a fireworks store.
Speaker 1: That okay, this was great, so let me just set
Speaker 1: it up a little bit. So we did some barbecuing,
Speaker 1: we were doing some drinking. I had fireworks here, not
Speaker 1: a ton, but yeah, for what we usually get, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a ton. Right. When we were coming home from
Speaker 1: New Orleans, we stopped in southern Illinois and there was
Speaker 1: like a roadside vendor, this cool old dude, and we
Speaker 1: bought a bunch of fireworks, brought him back home. Then
Speaker 1: we went to a place up in Wisconsin bought some more.
Speaker 1: But I like to kind of go back and forth
Speaker 1: with the neighbors, right, like who's got the better shit?
Speaker 1: So I wanted to get all these mortars things that
Speaker 1: opened up really nice flowers and things, and that's just so,
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing, having fun. Kids are lighting shit off.
Speaker 1: And but that wasn't enough. No, no, no, So my
Speaker 1: cousin Cory and Jenny, we're here, Corlando and Bond Quaker
Speaker 1: from listeners who have been with us for years might
Speaker 1: remember them. Corey said we need more. So then you
Speaker 1: guys disappeared. He was like, you want to come with us?
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, sure, like you know, thinking that I've
Speaker 2: been to a fire hoarser and I did, and I
Speaker 2: equally part see why people are jealous of our country
Speaker 2: and why they hate us, and why why they think
Speaker 2: so little of us too. Explain no, just the general
Speaker 2: atmosphere of the people that congregated there, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, what is that like? Explain that?
Speaker 2: No, just very like very midwestern kind of like I
Speaker 2: don't say bluegrass is not right, but like very yeah.
Speaker 1: A little bit. Really it was a very busy.
Speaker 2: It was basically a supermarket. Think of a supermarket, but
Speaker 2: we just firewors everywhere instead of whatever you pick them
Speaker 2: out just like just like a cart. Yeah, I had
Speaker 2: I had a little basket because I only bought a
Speaker 2: couple of things, and uh, it was fun. It was
Speaker 2: like buy one, get one on everything, and then buy one,
Speaker 2: get two on the expensive stuff. So like they were
Speaker 2: just giving the ship like basically giving them out.
Speaker 1: Because this is on fourth of July.
Speaker 2: They got to clean out and your cousin got like
Speaker 2: four hundred dollars worth of stuff, no problem.
Speaker 1: Which is both go. So he yeah, right, doubled it
Speaker 1: doubled up in Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a
Speaker 1: lot I didn't know, like a lot of things I
Speaker 1: didn't know. It required idea, which makes sense and in
Speaker 1: retrospect like, oh yeah there are explosives. I guess you'd
Speaker 1: need some sort of idea or sign of waiver. And
Speaker 1: so that was that was interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was fine otherwise, so it was my
Speaker 2: first time.
Speaker 1: It was cool.
Speaker 2: And then when we blew him up, we held our
Speaker 2: ground with your neighbors.
Speaker 1: Absolutely the stuff Corey brought back, yeah, yes, there was
Speaker 1: some intense stuff.
Speaker 2: You guys couldn't even wait till dark. No, you guys
Speaker 2: were like, just wait till it gets dark, but it's
Speaker 2: getting dark.
Speaker 1: That got eight thirty or nine. That's the one day
Speaker 1: a year I don't feel like a forty seven year old.
Speaker 1: I'm back to like twelve, right, you know, I just
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we also grew up, you know, loving that shit.
Speaker 2: A lot of kids don't do that no more these days.
Speaker 1: So I remember in Bridgeport on the south side. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like it was a war zone. It was
Speaker 1: literally a fucking war zone. Yeah. We had Chinatown. It's
Speaker 1: right on the border of Bridgeport and it kind of
Speaker 1: intermixes with Bridgeport quite a bit. So you had like
Speaker 1: all these Chinese dudes like running around on the ground
Speaker 1: on their bellies, launching bottle rockets at each other and
Speaker 1: at you and at neighbors houses, and there's like a
Speaker 1: war It was literally like a war man. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know we're talking about lines of firecrackers that go
Speaker 1: completely down the entire city block. Yeah, you know, homemade
Speaker 1: shows that that would rival something that like, you know,
Speaker 1: Wrigley Field or Socks Park. It was amazing. So that's
Speaker 1: what I grew up around, and I just loved it.
Speaker 1: And to this day, I have no problem spending money
Speaker 1: on fire X, love blowing them off, Love that my
Speaker 1: kids are into it, you know.
Speaker 2: And he doesn't say you're a kid, your youngest who
Speaker 2: is eleven night. He has almost become like a rare
Speaker 2: kid in the sense that a lot of kids have
Speaker 2: do not go up with firewars the same way, like
Speaker 2: it's being phased out a bit more like for them.
Speaker 2: They enjoyed the parade, they enjoy other aspects, but they're
Speaker 2: usually in bed by night time.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: No not us, no, not us no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: I try to find every scrap of something I can
Speaker 2: blow up. Yes, when I was a kid, and it
Speaker 2: was always in the alleys, it was never we never
Speaker 2: had driveways. So this is a Chicago residency, so there's no driveways,
Speaker 2: and so just an alleys everywhere. We take our bikes
Speaker 2: and we just see other people blow everything up. No
Speaker 2: matter where we go. I need di Russian, pick a Dirrectionian.
Speaker 2: You're gonna see a lot of shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I used to be big in collecting the duds
Speaker 1: the next day.
Speaker 2: Really so again in you try to break them and
Speaker 2: see more.
Speaker 1: Yes, I have a story. So again going back to
Speaker 1: Bridgeport the next day, this war zone, it was like
Speaker 1: a treasure treasure trove for me to find all these duds,
Speaker 1: rockets and you know, shells and whatever was spent you
Speaker 1: know then a lot of these things had these bright,
Speaker 1: colorful packages, and I would just put them in garbage
Speaker 1: bags and bring them home. Yeah, and my dad and
Speaker 1: stuff was like, what are you doing with this shit?
Speaker 1: Get rid of it. One time I collected a bunch
Speaker 1: of duds and things that just fell to the ground,
Speaker 1: and I cracked them open and I dumped out all
Speaker 1: of the gunpowder into a nice pile. My dumb ass.
Speaker 1: And again, I must be my son's age, like eleven,
Speaker 1: twelve years old, maybe even ten. I take a match
Speaker 1: and I'm on my knees and I'm looking over this
Speaker 1: little pile of gunpowder of shit that I took out
Speaker 1: of these fireworks, and I lit a match and I
Speaker 1: put it to that pile right through my face. I
Speaker 1: must have closed my eyes at the last second. It
Speaker 1: could have blinded me. Yeah, I had like sulfur burns
Speaker 1: on my face. I singed, my eyebrows and my eyelashes.
Speaker 1: That thing that flared up must have went two feet
Speaker 1: over my head, damn, and my face was right in it. Oh,
Speaker 1: it was great. I mean, that's what we did. Crazy,
Speaker 1: They don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why the commercials and that the era the
Speaker 2: television were often asked their parents, it's eight pm.
Speaker 1: Do you know where your kids are?
Speaker 2: Nope, nope, judge that's why people had through my parents
Speaker 2: know you have children? You you brought a human I
Speaker 2: did make that trends. So before we get to your
Speaker 2: pyromatic maniac son of yours, I sent you. I send
Speaker 2: you three pictures right now. Yeah, there was an accident
Speaker 2: in Chicago, a fireworks accident with this guy.
Speaker 1: Had that happened to him? Fucking ship Oscar?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Had that happened to him? Not too far from
Speaker 2: where my brother lives, where I used to live in
Speaker 2: the North Side.
Speaker 1: Is that all? Yeah? It is? Oh, this is the
Speaker 1: guy that the mortar uh huh.
Speaker 2: He went over to stand over because it stopped, and
Speaker 2: he went to stand over to see if he could
Speaker 2: relight it, and the mortar went right to his face.
Speaker 1: And that's what happened. There is no head left. I know,
Speaker 1: how did you get these photos? I have a police
Speaker 1: officer front, so I read the because I mean, like you,
Speaker 1: everyone read it. Everyone's reading it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course that's what happens to him though fire
Speaker 2: works like cautionary tail there folks, Oh.
Speaker 1: My god, I know Oscar he's got no fucking head.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to truck you. That's that's a real one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's from the scene.
Speaker 1: Oh mm hmm hmmm. And you know what's really fucking
Speaker 1: crazy is I didn't see these obviously. I saw the
Speaker 1: picture of the dude, right, you know, just just a
Speaker 1: normal kind of normal Yeah, normal kind of skinny looking dude.
Speaker 2: And holy shit, yeah, at least it was instant, I guess, God,
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I mean, this is something you can't even
Speaker 1: describe a picture like this. No, no, you can't. I
Speaker 1: can't believe that it's the dude I read about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I figure you wouldn't know that story. So I don't
Speaker 1: think I want to put these. I mean, we're talking
Speaker 1: about them. There's probably people out there like fucking.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, I don't think we should.
Speaker 1: That's pretty pretty pretty now, Yeah, this looks like it
Speaker 1: could have been your next door neighbor the garage, right, exactly.
Speaker 1: So many backyards are so many looks like the alley
Speaker 1: we had well waited to rail the show Oscar.
Speaker 2: Who we're talking about fire archs and shit more appropriate
Speaker 2: and it's the only appropriate time to bring that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen. I yeah, I don't even know. There's no head,
Speaker 1: there's no head left, and you'll see it all. Yeahs,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna thank you for sharing that one. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have nightmares on that. Maybe I'll teach you that
Speaker 1: gunpowder before it. But you're so I mean, how wrong,
Speaker 1: how it could have gone? So? Yeah? Right there? Well
Speaker 1: you remember tattoo Joe, Yes, yes, uh, he's a very
Speaker 1: thankfully and he works with his hands as his job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean has an incredibly successful tattoo shop in Chicago,
Speaker 1: the Tat Cave. Go check him out, kid Joe. He
Speaker 1: took one of those mortars and he held the tube
Speaker 1: above his head. What and that the tube exploded and
Speaker 1: he lost his right hand ring, finger and pinky and
Speaker 1: they had to sew it back on the sow, that
Speaker 1: whole fucking chunk back on. Wow. And now that's his hand,
Speaker 1: that was his tattoo hand. Now he's he's still able,
Speaker 1: lucky that, I mean, yeah, he does. They did a
Speaker 1: good job on him. The surgeons did a great job
Speaker 1: on him. The same thing, I mean, held that mortar
Speaker 1: above his head, why don't fucking know? R and the
Speaker 1: he had it on an angle so he didn't the
Speaker 1: mortar didn't leave the tube. Fucking tube exploded, took off
Speaker 1: those two fingers. That's crazy, that's insane. Wow. Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't really get fireworks that are that powerful.
Speaker 2: No, but yeah, crazy.
Speaker 1: And I think it was what's called an X there's
Speaker 1: like one X, two x three X, and they essentially
Speaker 1: shoot up like order half in full sticks of dynamite
Speaker 1: depending on what X you get. And that's what he
Speaker 1: had exploded. So I could only imagine what this poor
Speaker 1: bastard had that took his head off. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: What he had obviously was a legal estate. Probably, yeah,
Speaker 2: I need know to.
Speaker 1: Drink a whiskey.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know that. Uh so, making it hopefully a
Speaker 2: little funnier. Now, your son, after we'd finished everything, you
Speaker 2: went into the pool and you were drunkie. You were
Speaker 2: drunken happy. You warmed up your pool. You went into it.
Speaker 2: You kept saying, okna come in. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: have shorts, and then I was like, that's okay. I
Speaker 2: always forget to bring something. And then your son comes
Speaker 2: out into the backyard. This after we blew up all
Speaker 2: the fireworks, and you were asking me, go find fireworks.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be some. And we did.
Speaker 2: We find a surprisingly amount of little things that we
Speaker 2: could still pop off and.
Speaker 1: Explode, and we did. We did those.
Speaker 2: After we did those, your son took the blowtorch whatever
Speaker 2: we were using and started setting everything on fire. I
Speaker 2: do in the backyard. So what I mean by everything,
Speaker 2: I mean like anything that was the packaging or the
Speaker 2: boxes of where the fireworks came out of.
Speaker 1: He was setting on fire.
Speaker 2: At one point, the chair, one of the chairs of
Speaker 2: launchers was on fire and I was like, I have
Speaker 2: to take it out, and like I stopped it with
Speaker 2: my foot.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: After I did that, twenty minutes later he's setting that
Speaker 2: the remains of what I put out back on fire.
Speaker 1: I found it the next day, and it.
Speaker 2: Kept asking you, like, Dad, can I sit this on fire?
Speaker 2: You're like, no, Dad, can't set this on fire.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: At like twenty times You're like, yeah, fine, go ahead,
Speaker 2: and he score.
Speaker 1: Parenting.
Speaker 2: He wears you down, he wears he down.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I found that mess the next day. I wasn't ilted. Oh,
Speaker 1: there was a lot to clean up, but a lot
Speaker 1: to the pool was fucked. Yeah. It took a new
Speaker 1: hours to clean right, guys.
Speaker 2: He had the pool open, right, and he kept saying, like,
Speaker 2: away from the pooluys, I don't wind anything falling into
Speaker 2: the pool. Of course, things fell into the fucking poole
Speaker 2: so bad.
Speaker 1: One of them went so directly in it. It was
Speaker 1: nothing but comical. Yeah. Yeah, the fourth of July, I
Speaker 1: got blessed America. Ye we needed was a fucking eagle flyover. Man.
Speaker 1: It's funny even though it was last week, Like I
Speaker 1: totally forgot that that happened, like so much has happened since. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just knocked it right out of my head. Missying.
Speaker 2: If it turns out to be an arsonist, we understand everything.
Speaker 1: Give that kid a blowtorch and gunpowder for it. Did
Speaker 1: he help you clean up? The day after? They did
Speaker 1: that night? Later that night, oh, later on that my daughter,
Speaker 1: her boyfriend Nico, they all went out there and they
Speaker 1: took at least one big garbage bag of stuff out
Speaker 1: to the damn the garbage canon. I guess that was
Speaker 1: enough for them, because when I went out the next
Speaker 1: day there was still a ton of shit. No. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were like, we're done. We did we did, assholes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kids are always like that though, for sure. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, no good because I wasn't sure what to
Speaker 1: talk about that fourth of July. Fantastic.
Speaker 2: So if you're feeling when this happened, when this airs
Speaker 2: three thousand years from now, I don't know when.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like September. I'm thinking this should be September.
Speaker 2: When this airs, and you're feeling like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I haven't felt patriotic since last fourth of July.
Speaker 1: Man, that was so long. It was only three months ago. Nope,
Speaker 1: we got you. We're stories got from three months ago. Yeah, wondrous.
Speaker 1: Love it, love it, Oscar. I've got a I've got
Speaker 1: a fun one tonight. I can't wait to see what
Speaker 1: you think, what your opinion is. Okay, I know tonight
Speaker 1: yet again nothing, I didn't tell you anything. So with
Speaker 1: that said, why don't we take a quick break. Let's
Speaker 1: do it, refill our little whiskeys. Yes, and we're back.
Speaker 1: All right, listeners, welcome back to the show. Well, the
Speaker 1: lights are turned down low, the ceremonial candle is lit,
Speaker 1: and the drinks are flowing. Let's start this show, Oscar.
Speaker 1: What are we what are we drinking here? It is
Speaker 1: a whoa? You have the bottle. It is a Calumet
Speaker 1: Farm sixteen year It's pretty good. I like it. I
Speaker 1: like it too. It's the citation. It's named after a
Speaker 1: after a horse, a triple triple crown winning horse citation,
Speaker 1: and it's good one hundred and six proof.
Speaker 2: Do you think the horse's kids get any of the royalties?
Speaker 1: They should? They should, But I know that this it
Speaker 1: smells stronger than but it is smoother when it goes
Speaker 1: down though. Yeah, yeah, it was nice move. I like this.
Speaker 1: And then we had nineteen barrels in this entire batch,
Speaker 1: so it's uh, it was a little pricey. Well, what's
Speaker 1: a little pricey. It was a few hundred. It was
Speaker 1: a celebratory bottle that I bought.
Speaker 2: It's in the outakes, and then you're telling me not
Speaker 2: to put.
Speaker 1: It in it might be so yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1: Oscar trure Falls. Educational institutions schools, right, they're typically regarded
Speaker 1: as safe havens, right, No, not in America, not in Chicago,
Speaker 1: not in America at all. You know that's a good point.
Speaker 2: Should I bring up Columbine and every school after that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, good point. They should be because going off
Speaker 1: right now, they should be safe havens.
Speaker 2: Wait, they definitely should be.
Speaker 1: Parents said their kids to school expecting top notch instruction, structure, safety,
Speaker 1: and even some mild discipline when needed. Okay, school should
Speaker 1: really and Katie and I we really believe this. It
Speaker 1: should be an extension of the home and the home
Speaker 1: and extension of the school, parents and teachers collaborating with
Speaker 1: one another to ensure our kids grow to be well adjusted,
Speaker 1: functioning adults with the skills needed to positively contribute to society. Okay,
Speaker 1: schools should be far removed from tales of witchcraft, demonic possession,
Speaker 1: and paranormal assaults. Right assaults, paranormal assaults. Okay, of course,
Speaker 1: this shit don't belong in schools. Goes without saying, well,
Speaker 1: Harry Potters in schools, fair touche. I'm sorry, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just end this whole thing. Oh yes, but this, yes,
Speaker 1: but yeah, goes without saying. But this is the Supernatural
Speaker 1: Occurrent Studies podcast, where things are never what they seem. Tonight,
Speaker 1: our story takes us down to Miami, Florida, in the
Speaker 1: late nineteen seventies, to the Little Havana neighborhood, where a
Speaker 1: horrifying event took place at a military school called the
Speaker 1: Miami Aerospace Academy. Now, this instant incident, happily referred to
Speaker 1: as the Miami Aerospaith Academy incident, whether it's real or not,
Speaker 1: left the permanent staying on students' staff and emergency responders
Speaker 1: who experienced it. And today, almost forty five years later,
Speaker 1: the story continues to captivate and terrify. And I want
Speaker 1: you to keep in mind that as we go through
Speaker 1: this story, there are many many eyewitnesses that saw firsthand
Speaker 1: what happened and vouch for its authenticity. We're talking police officers, firemen, reporters, teachers,
Speaker 1: not to mention, countless students, and there were even news
Speaker 1: stories written about it. Actually, I left one of those
Speaker 1: articles from the Miami News in the show notes, so
Speaker 1: listeners make sure and check out the show notes for
Speaker 1: this episode. I left quite a few things there for you.
Speaker 1: So this event did happen, It is real. What it was, however,
Speaker 1: is open for debate. Okay, So, in the days leading
Speaker 1: up to Halloween nineteen seventy nine, something inexplicable occurred at
Speaker 1: the Miami Aerospace Academy that defied all rational explanation, something
Speaker 1: that many consider to be the most significant paranormal event
Speaker 1: in the history of the US, or the largest example
Speaker 1: of mass hallucination our country has ever seen. Maybe even
Speaker 1: stranger still is that this thing, this event, whatever it was,
Speaker 1: literally came out of nowhere, and just as quickly as
Speaker 1: the insanity started, it stopped just as fast, and everything
Speaker 1: at the Miami Aerospace Academy went back to normal.
Speaker 2: Kind of okay, not knowing what this is about, never
Speaker 2: heard of the story. I went to Miami this year
Speaker 2: for the first time ever, So that's a little interesting there,
Speaker 2: you go. I definitely didn't what you told me about
Speaker 2: this before. I might have sought this place out, you know,
Speaker 2: I had the Knights free there.
Speaker 1: Oh Miami Nights.
Speaker 2: Yeah, huh, this gets good, This gets I almost want
Speaker 2: to guess, throw guesses, but that's not going to help continue.
Speaker 1: Okay. Now, to understand this story, we must first understand
Speaker 1: a bit about Miami in the nineteen sixties and seventies.
Speaker 2: Fucking hot it is, That's what I'll tell you now.
Speaker 1: Miami, specifically Little Havana, where the Aerospace Academy was located,
Speaker 1: was comprised of transplants and exiles from South and Central
Speaker 1: America and the Caribbean, and these people brought with them
Speaker 1: their exotic religions and beliefs, and as a result, Miami,
Speaker 1: the magic city, good show, by the way, had a
Speaker 1: strange allure for the devil. Ritualistic magic was commonplace in
Speaker 1: Little Havana, and it was common knowledge and strongly believed
Speaker 1: that malevolent spirits and demons could and would prey upon
Speaker 1: the weak, the misguided, and the uninitiated. This arcane information
Speaker 1: was passed from elders to the young, and in turn,
Speaker 1: the young brought these beliefs into the streets and into
Speaker 1: the classrooms. One article stated that it wasn't uncommon to
Speaker 1: see little children in Little Havana playing in the streets
Speaker 1: amidst remnants of dark rituals, scattered cigar stubs, cigarette tobacco,
Speaker 1: fruit liquor bottles, flowers, and even severed chicken heads and
Speaker 1: castro pamphlets. Whole Castro comes into this, Oh, in no
Speaker 1: way he does. In the seventies in Miami, are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? Exactly? Yes? Yes, Little Cuba, Little Havana, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't say. Now. Keep in mind, a few years
Speaker 1: before the events at the Aerospace Academy in nineteen seventy three,
Speaker 1: a terrifying film, The Exorcist. You might have heard of
Speaker 1: it was released and sent shivers down the spines of moviegoers.
Speaker 1: A year later, in nineteen seventy four, the Sarasota Tribune
Speaker 1: reported that Miami's Jackson Memorial Hospital treated an astonishing seven
Speaker 1: hundred cases of supposed demonic possession every month, likely a
Speaker 1: direct result of spiritual paranoia brought on by The Exorcist. Wow,
Speaker 1: that movie really fucked people over. It did so much
Speaker 1: to the collective unconscious, absolutely one hundred percent, and I'd
Speaker 1: argue it still does today now. In that same year,
Speaker 1: seventy four, a very spooky incident occurred when a nine
Speaker 1: year old girl standing in a church in Little Havana
Speaker 1: uttered the words I Am Satan in a voice that
Speaker 1: observers swore wasn't her own, terrifying everybody. Then, in seventy six,
Speaker 1: yet another movie centered around a demonic child was released,
Speaker 1: The Omen and in the same year Stephen King's Carry.
Speaker 1: So it's theatrical release. Yeah, a movie about an abused
Speaker 1: and outcast high school girl with unimaginable psychic powers to
Speaker 1: the kinetic powers, Yeah right, good. Then, just a few
Speaker 1: months before the incident at the Aerospace Academy a few
Speaker 1: months before a wildly popular movie about a deep and
Speaker 1: possessed house splashed across the silver screens in July seventy nine.
Speaker 1: And you guess what that is, Amityville. Amityville Horror. That's right.
Speaker 1: So it's safe to say that in the mid to
Speaker 1: late seventies into the eighties, America was in the grip
Speaker 1: of a satanic panic, and places like Little Havana where
Speaker 1: belief in magic and the supernatural and the demonic were
Speaker 1: rooted in the very fabric of a neighborhood. The panic
Speaker 1: grip and the rest of the US only added fuel
Speaker 1: to what would become one of the most mind boggling
Speaker 1: and downright bizarre episodes in American education history. Now, So
Speaker 1: you know, and you could probably imagine, there's a ton
Speaker 1: of unanswered questions when it comes to what actually happened
Speaker 1: at the Miami Aerospace Academy on October twenty fifth, nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy nine, so just a few days before Halloween. Right,
Speaker 1: We're not going to solve anything in this episode, but
Speaker 1: what we do know is that violence, desperation, black magic,
Speaker 1: and an exiled headmaster obsessed with power all mixed together
Speaker 1: into kind of this gumbo and formed this perfect storm,
Speaker 1: a paranormal explosion of epic proportions. So let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Let's get into what happened, and then we'll talk more
Speaker 1: about some of the factors that might have contributed to
Speaker 1: this insane school day. All right, So, at approximately eight
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning on October twenty fifth, nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 1: at the Miami Aerospace Academy, a female student suddenly jumped
Speaker 1: up from her desk and sheered terror and bolted out
Speaker 1: of her classroom and ran screaming down the hall to
Speaker 1: the girl's bathroom. A small group of her friends followed
Speaker 1: after the girl and chased her into that bathroom, worried
Speaker 1: that you know, for their friend's safety and well being. Now,
Speaker 1: once in the girl's bathroom, the group encountered their friend
Speaker 1: in complete hysterics, thrashing around on the bathroom floor while
Speaker 1: shouting over and over, the devil is inside me, the
Speaker 1: devil is inside me. And as if this spectacle wasn't
Speaker 1: creepy enough to the group's absolute horror, their friend levitated
Speaker 1: just lifted right up off the bathroom floor. Now, while
Speaker 1: this nightmare is unfolding in this girl's bathroom. In a
Speaker 1: completely different part of the school, in a completely different classroom,
Speaker 1: two male cadets or students, Remember this is a military
Speaker 1: students are cadets. Two male cadets suddenly jumped up from
Speaker 1: their desk and started beating the shit out of each
Speaker 1: other for absolutely no apparent reason, like they weren't friends
Speaker 1: or anything. Well, they were, that's what kind of weren't rivals?
Speaker 1: Witnesses claim The boys tossed each other around the classroom
Speaker 1: with what was described as superhuman strength, and one cadet
Speaker 1: was actually thrown out of the classroom's second story window
Speaker 1: and he plummeted to the concrete ground below. Not unbelievably,
Speaker 1: this kid got up completely unscathed, and when the teacher
Speaker 1: grabbed him to see if he was okay, the teacher
Speaker 1: said that the kid's eyes were glowing red and that
Speaker 1: he was growling like a wild animal. The kid said,
Speaker 1: leave me alone in a voice that was in his own,
Speaker 1: and he tossed this teacher like a rag doll, and
Speaker 1: then the kid just ran off. Now by this time,
Speaker 1: news of the levitating girl in the bathroom with the
Speaker 1: and this kid that fell out of the window with
Speaker 1: glowing red eyes, growling, tore through the school like wildfire,
Speaker 1: and that was it. From there, this mass, I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was, mass possession, mass hallucination, ripped through
Speaker 1: the school like a tidal wave. Cadets both male and female,
Speaker 1: ran through the halls, screaming, growling, destroying property and claim.
Speaker 1: Witnesses claim literally ripping classroom doors off their hinges in
Speaker 1: just terrifying displays of superhuman strength. Other students crawled through
Speaker 1: the hallways on all fours like hell hounds, it was described,
Speaker 1: while others convulsed and thrashed on the floor as if
Speaker 1: overtaken and possessed by unseen forces. Students that weren't affected
Speaker 1: by this terrifying phenomenon ran from their classmates in pure terror,
Speaker 1: from people who just a short while before were their friends.
Speaker 1: Were normal. Yep, it was pure pandemonium.
Speaker 2: Teachers were affected too.
Speaker 1: No, oh, no, this just affected the students, Okay. Now,
Speaker 1: the police were called. Cops, paramedics, firemen rushed to the scene.
Speaker 1: Emergency personnel said the scene was completely chaotic and they
Speaker 1: likened it to a riot. They said it was a
Speaker 1: parent that a lot of the kids were trying to
Speaker 1: get away from something, and that they seemed to be
Speaker 1: terrified of their fellow classmates. Reports said that kids were
Speaker 1: making wild animal noises and gnashing their teeth. Others ran
Speaker 1: around thrashing violently, and kids who were once friends were
Speaker 1: now acting more like predators in prey.
Speaker 2: It became like survival of the Jungle style kind.
Speaker 1: Of Yeah, it's almost like a Lord of the Flies
Speaker 1: maybe a little. And those who weren't affected by whatever
Speaker 1: this was begged the police and firemen to protect them
Speaker 1: from their classmates. When students we were asked who started
Speaker 1: the riot, multiple students responded simply the devil. Others said
Speaker 1: they didn't know, it just happened. The chaos started around
Speaker 1: eight thirty in the morning, and by about noon that day,
Speaker 1: the affected kids snapped out of it, and just like that,
Speaker 1: the devil exited the Miami era Space Academy, leave them
Speaker 1: behind a lot more questions and answers in a neighborhood
Speaker 1: already prime to believe in the supernatural terrified.
Speaker 2: Okay, so, first, when you were describing the red eyes
Speaker 2: and even the walking reminded me like these was these
Speaker 2: kids affected by Zuel, You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: even felt like Ghostbusters the first one, or like Reggie
Speaker 2: McNeil crawling on the ground Reagan McNeil. I also think
Speaker 2: of like a what's his name? Gallo, the Italian horror filmmaker,
Speaker 2: did movies like Demons with the eyes. He would focus
Speaker 2: a lot on the eyes and stuff. He did a
Speaker 2: lot of movies Italian horror. It's a it's a gentle
Speaker 2: era in the seventies, actually in sixties, seventies to the eighties,
Speaker 2: so he might have made a few movies that looked
Speaker 2: like this a little bit. So it reminds me of
Speaker 2: that also reminds me of like the faculty a little bit,
Speaker 2: but reverse it and so the teachers as the students.
Speaker 1: I like that movie the fact I always liked that movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it doesn't make sense, but it's good.
Speaker 2: When does class start at a thirty then?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, they were already in class sitting down. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Its military said the place start even earlier.
Speaker 1: Good point, good point. Yeah, I didn't see that. For
Speaker 1: me was like nine, you know, when I was this cool?
Speaker 2: Okay, immediately try to think of like what are what
Speaker 2: could be reasons that isn't supernatural?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: That it might be going on here. The first one
Speaker 2: is a hoax. Hard to pull off, hard to be
Speaker 2: a hoax.
Speaker 1: Hard to fall out of a second story.
Speaker 2: Window and be okay, like okay, like he was fine,
Speaker 2: like s I mean, I actually jump off the garage
Speaker 2: roof of my house all the time. But that's not
Speaker 2: two floors, one floor or one No, I guess it
Speaker 2: is one change.
Speaker 1: You're right, does wind ingress? Yeah, No, this was I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. Okay, it gets, it gets.
Speaker 1: There's some possible explanations here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thinking of the power of suggestion of some kind. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know, i'd have to there have to be some
Speaker 2: sort of at least cursory study of Cuban I don't
Speaker 2: think human specifically, because most of them are Catholic, most
Speaker 2: of them are They follow pretty much what we follow here.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a hop skip. Cuba is ninety miles
Speaker 1: away from us. There is that deep rooted belief in right,
Speaker 1: but there's also there's also other stuff.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was trying to think it's some sort of
Speaker 2: suggestive thing. Maybe if we study their their customs and
Speaker 2: or the religion or whatever branch of division or religion
Speaker 2: they're doing, we can surmise them maybe the data is
Speaker 2: significant in some way, or someone religiously meaningful to them died,
Speaker 2: or the opposite, something negative or an omen of some
Speaker 2: kind was sprouted in some way that led them to
Speaker 2: have that power suggestion act out.
Speaker 1: But these are kids. What's the age groups? This is
Speaker 1: an academy that covers from the young to you know,
Speaker 1: high school, elementary to high school like that that far
Speaker 1: because there's there's talk of one kid who is nine
Speaker 1: years old, and then there's also like senior age, so
Speaker 1: at eighteen nineteen. Yeah, seemingly to affect everyone equally and
Speaker 1: not equally like it was. Yeah, yeah, it seemed to
Speaker 1: you know, that's a good question too. None of the
Speaker 1: articles really break it down by students age necessarily.
Speaker 2: I would do immediately statistics like were most of them
Speaker 2: in high school age? Which makes you think like it's
Speaker 2: pubity attached to this in some way, like post previty
Speaker 2: eras when you're more affected.
Speaker 1: There's your Carrie White from Carrie White.
Speaker 2: That's a perfect one. The very opening scene she gets
Speaker 2: gets your period right, he breaks loose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I never really. I mean there's kids that
Speaker 1: they interviewed. There's certain kids that talk about they seem
Speaker 1: to be older like your junior senior, but something bad
Speaker 1: happened to this night.
Speaker 2: And then also I would like try to limit down.
Speaker 2: Were they all Cuban specifically or were they mixed bag?
Speaker 1: And that's what makes it so interesting too. There were
Speaker 1: so many eyewitnesses to this, news stories about it. Something happened,
Speaker 1: but there was never really follow up. As far as
Speaker 1: I could find, any in depth research into this, it
Speaker 1: was either yep, this is what it was. Move on,
Speaker 1: school's gone, it's spoiler, everything's done, it's gone, it's closed.
Speaker 1: Everyone forgot about it. Basically, no one knows about it.
Speaker 1: Everyone forgot about this.
Speaker 2: I definitely never heard about it.
Speaker 1: And I'll talk about it later. There's a Facebook page. Again,
Speaker 1: check the show notes. I put a link to this
Speaker 1: Facebook page of the Miami Aerospace Academy, like alone, and
Speaker 1: no one on the fucking page talks about it. It's
Speaker 1: like it never happened around it. It's the strangest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was And again, listeners, you can see this on
Speaker 1: the Facebook page. There was a reporter kind of sniffing
Speaker 1: around in this group and asking people, and the people
Speaker 1: get so defensive, why would you bring that up? It's
Speaker 1: all bullshit, blah blah blah. Move on, you know, find
Speaker 1: something better to do with your reporting, report on something real,
Speaker 1: like they flat out deny it.
Speaker 2: Do you think this is a seventies thing?
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: Or like you know, because you.
Speaker 1: Know they say, like these these group of people who
Speaker 1: inhabited Little Havana during that time were prime to believe. Dude,
Speaker 1: America was prime to believe at that time in this stuff.
Speaker 1: We were sure for all the reasons. I quoted your Exorcist,
Speaker 1: You're yeah, you're a Satanic panic, which is called generally
Speaker 1: the Satanic Panic movies and things. So yeah, America was
Speaker 1: prime to believe too, I think. And well, I don't
Speaker 1: want to give away anything right now, right, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: with me so far interested. From the October twenty sixth,
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine Miami News headline, police baffled by kids
Speaker 1: Ouiji riot. The article reads, in part quote, the mass
Speaker 1: hysteria that drove students temporarily berserk at a military style
Speaker 1: private school on West Flagler Street began when several students
Speaker 1: playing with the wigi board suddenly felt that a spirit
Speaker 1: took it over. A teacher said today, everybody just got
Speaker 1: carried away. That was a riot. The teacher, Ileana Vissidio,
Speaker 1: told the Miami News there were girls crying and screaming
Speaker 1: that there was a spirit inside the Wiji board. Police
Speaker 1: said that they were baffled by the outbreak yesterday at
Speaker 1: the Miami Aerospace Academy, which they said led to mass
Speaker 1: hysteria that had students kicking walls, tearing at doors, talking
Speaker 1: of witches, and screaming about demons. The whole school went berserk,
Speaker 1: said Miami police officer Harry Cunnell. End quote. Now I'm
Speaker 1: jumping to another part of the article here. Quote one student,
Speaker 1: Jose Navarro thirteen, a seventh grader, said that during the
Speaker 1: commotion yesterday, everybody felt weak. Me and my friends made
Speaker 1: a cross. He said that students felt that a demon
Speaker 1: or something was around. The article continues quote another student,
Speaker 1: who refused to give her name, said that students sometimes
Speaker 1: play a game in which they chant bloody Mary, bloody Mary,
Speaker 1: bloody Mary. In a dark bathroom. All sorts of things happen,
Speaker 1: she said. Quote. Then the article goes on to quote
Speaker 1: a fireman talking about students lying on the floor in
Speaker 1: a hysterical state and It also mentions a hypnosis session
Speaker 1: going on in a tenth grade science class, and that
Speaker 1: could have been the catalyst to this whole infernal ordeal.
Speaker 1: Very interesting. Now, of course this is out of the article.
Speaker 1: Now this is me, this is my story. Now out
Speaker 1: of the article. Of course, the academy denied any hypnosis
Speaker 1: session was going on right before the event, and the
Speaker 1: Academy's headmaster, its owner, the strange power hungry man I
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, although not by name, a man named Evaristo
Speaker 1: Marina or el Heni Ral. He claimed the whole event
Speaker 1: was politically motivated, that his critics set up the whole
Speaker 1: thing to embarrass him and ruin any chance he had
Speaker 1: at a political career in Miami. So what was it?
Speaker 1: Was it a mass hallucination brought on by a hypnosucession
Speaker 1: gone wrong? Was it El Henny Raw's critics trying to
Speaker 1: sabotage his political career? Did Ougi's spirits overtake the students,
Speaker 1: or did the devil himself pay a short visit to
Speaker 1: the Miami Aerospace Academy back in October seventy nine. Like
Speaker 1: I said earlier, we'll never know what was at the route.
Speaker 1: But again, this did happen. This really happened. So let's
Speaker 1: take a look at a few things. First, let's dig
Speaker 1: a lot deeper into the head of the Miami Aerospace Academy,
Speaker 1: Headmaster Ivaristo Marina el Heni Rau, because there's actually there's
Speaker 1: a lot to this guy. Now. Ivaristo, like most little
Speaker 1: Havana at the time, he was a Cuban exile, and
Speaker 1: the general's goal was to make it big in politics
Speaker 1: here in the States. Just like a lot of Cuban
Speaker 1: exiles who at one time held prominent positions in Cuba, lawyers, doctors,
Speaker 1: police officers, stuff like that. When they got here to America,
Speaker 1: that shit didn't matter. So you had these former lawyers
Speaker 1: and doctors whatever, working as bus boys and manual laborers
Speaker 1: once they got to America. And Iva Wristo was no different.
Speaker 1: You see, in Cuba, President Falencio Batista appointed Eva Risto
Speaker 1: the General Director of Public Order. So here we have
Speaker 1: Ivaisto in his twenties being in charge of Cuba's nightclubs,
Speaker 1: casinos and the police force over there in Cuba. Quite
Speaker 1: a life for a young men, right, money, women, clout,
Speaker 1: and a very real sense of power and authority. Fortunately,
Speaker 1: though disaster loomed. You see, Ivaristo also earned a law
Speaker 1: degree at the University of Havana, where he often found
Speaker 1: himself in heated debates over Marxism with the fellow student
Speaker 1: named Fidel Castro. Now, when Castro formed a revolutionary group
Speaker 1: that would successfully overthrow Patista's government, Ivristo Marina became a target.
Speaker 1: It said that Castro even had a bounty on Marina's head.
Speaker 1: So in nineteen fifty nine, Ivaristo fled Cuba to the
Speaker 1: US with an intense, burning desire to rise to power
Speaker 1: like a phoenix from the ashes, and he carried with
Speaker 1: him the ambition of someone who had lost something huge,
Speaker 1: and he did now again. Like many immigrants, Ivorisco discovered
Speaker 1: that his past position in clout in Cuba meant fuck
Speaker 1: all here in the States, and he was forced to
Speaker 1: take up odd jobs, starting as a busboy and waiting
Speaker 1: tables at Miami's upscale Biltmore Hotel. There he served dinner
Speaker 1: to fellow Cuban politicians seeking refuge, a group known as
Speaker 1: the Cuban Rotary Club of Exiles. When Ivristo's shifts would end,
Speaker 1: he would shut his apron and join in on political discussions.
Speaker 1: Even as a twenty five year old waiter, Ivristo proudly
Speaker 1: declaimed his aspiration to someday become Miami's mayor. However, he
Speaker 1: could only secure a coaching position for soccer at the
Speaker 1: Florida Air Force Academy in Melbourne, associated with the US
Speaker 1: Army's Junior Reserve Officer Training Corpor ROTC, people known as ROTC. Now.
Speaker 1: It was during this low point of waiting tables and
Speaker 1: longing for the grandeur he once had, that Ivristo had
Speaker 1: an idea and saw an opportunity to establish a specialized
Speaker 1: school that would combine Cuban discipline with American military values.
Speaker 1: To fund his idea, Ivristo started a beverage company called
Speaker 1: Iron Beer Soft Drinks, likely inspired by a popular Cuban
Speaker 1: soda with the same name, Iron Beer. To gain credibility,
Speaker 1: he joined the Civil Air Patrol, which is like an
Speaker 1: auxiliary of the United States Air Force, and he rose
Speaker 1: to the rank of lieutenant colonel, but never to rank
Speaker 1: of general, although he would insist his cadets and staff
Speaker 1: refer to him as el Chineyrau the General. In nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty eight, Iveristow sold his beverage company and used those
Speaker 1: profits to establish his academy, and he specifically strategically chose
Speaker 1: the name Aerospace Academy to evoke images of spaceships and astronauts,
Speaker 1: a concept that resonated with the space crazed culture of
Speaker 1: America at the time, and he targeted traditional Hispanic parents
Speaker 1: with his marketing efforts. Iveristow emphasized his belief in the
Speaker 1: importance of command authority, and he revoked any kind of vice,
Speaker 1: saying that since he didn't smoke or drink, his cadets
Speaker 1: wentn't neither, which resonated with neighborhood parents. Everisto, if anything,
Speaker 1: was really a great marketer, and his only unfortunate advice,
Speaker 1: His only unfortunate advice was his hunger thirst for power.
Speaker 1: So in nineteen sixty eight, the Miami Aerospace Academy opened
Speaker 1: its doors. Now, at first, attendance was low. His neighborhood
Speaker 1: parents couldn't afford the sixty five dollars a month tuition,
Speaker 1: which is about four hundred and fifty two dollars in
Speaker 1: today's money, but it wasn't uncommon for Everisto to pay
Speaker 1: for kids to wish out of his own pocket. He
Speaker 1: ran commercials for the academy in South America. He even
Speaker 1: pulled kids out of juvenile detention centers, the quote unquote
Speaker 1: bad kids, and changed their names so neighborhood parents wouldn't
Speaker 1: know the kind of kids their kids were being mixed
Speaker 1: up with. Get the bodies in act like enrollment is up,
Speaker 1: attract more students. It was a ploy. Now it remains
Speaker 1: a mystery how he's able to do this, But Evaristo
Speaker 1: even managed to somehow get a decommissioned US Air Force
Speaker 1: F eighty four fighter jet, a supersonic aircraft that at
Speaker 1: one time ripped through the Korean skies, and he navigated
Speaker 1: it through the streets of Miami during rush hour in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two during the Jets commute. It damaged several
Speaker 1: palm trees and scratched parked cars, and Iveristo mounted that
Speaker 1: jet right on top of the entrance to his academy,
Speaker 1: effectively attracting military obsessed boys and their fascinated fathers. Wow.
Speaker 1: As a side note, later on, cadets would insist that
Speaker 1: this F eighty four was cursed, haunted by the tormented
Speaker 1: soul of a pilot burned alive during battle. Now cursed jet.
Speaker 1: Aside before you knew it. The academy was chock full
Speaker 1: of students, both male and female, kindergarten through twelfth grade,
Speaker 1: with some students paying up to six grand a year
Speaker 1: about fifty two thousand dollars in today's money. Needless to say,
Speaker 1: Eva Wristo and his method of teaching and discipline became
Speaker 1: a hot commodity for parents in Little Havana. Now, like
Speaker 1: all our stories, I did a ton of research for
Speaker 1: this story, and all I can say is if the
Speaker 1: school was strange. It's really hard to put a finger
Speaker 1: on whether or not it was a good place or
Speaker 1: it was a bad place. On one hand, you got
Speaker 1: past students claiming that this was the best place in
Speaker 1: the world, and they credit the Aerospace Academy and Evristo
Speaker 1: Marina for saving their lives, for setting them on the
Speaker 1: right career path, and for doling out the discipline they
Speaker 1: desperately needed. And on the other hand, you have people
Speaker 1: saying the Academy was the worst place in the world.
Speaker 1: They claimed that cadets were oppressed by the institution and
Speaker 1: that they were in constant fear of their teachers and
Speaker 1: of Eva Risto himself, never knowing when a cricket bat
Speaker 1: would be used across their asses for the slightest infraction. Wow.
Speaker 1: Varisto implemented forced haircuts, uniforms, lots of marching, physical abuse, fear, paranoia,
Speaker 1: all the ingredients for breaking down the body, which in
Speaker 1: turn would break down the mind, brainwashing, reprogramming, total control.
Speaker 1: There are even rumors of sexual abuse. Just an incredibly
Speaker 1: negative environment to some right now. As I mentioned, there's
Speaker 1: a Facebook page called Miami Aerospace Academy nineteen sixty eight
Speaker 1: to nineteen seventy eight, and you can see academy alums
Speaker 1: talking about their experiences at the school and honestly, what
Speaker 1: they say it's all over the board. Interesting though interestingly
Speaker 1: though they say very little about that day the devil
Speaker 1: supposedly took over the school back in October seventy nine,
Speaker 1: And again I left a link to the aerospace alum
Speaker 1: Facebook page in the show notes. Check it out for
Speaker 1: yourselves and see what you think. Now. As for the
Speaker 1: teachers under Everisto's employee, I read that he didn't even
Speaker 1: hire accredited teachers. Instead, he in general because he hired
Speaker 1: non accredited teachers quote unquote teachers so we could better
Speaker 1: control them. Everisto called these people his colonels and majors,
Speaker 1: and they wound up being more like his henchmen and
Speaker 1: hench women, doling out harsh punishments to cadets at whim.
Speaker 1: When questioned about his hiring practices, Everisto expressed his reservations
Speaker 1: about bringing in actual certified teachers from the state of Florida,
Speaker 1: claiming that they might be homosexual, an idea that deeply
Speaker 1: infuriated him. He made it clear in his school that
Speaker 1: the mission is to help students combat communism, drugs, and
Speaker 1: what he referred to as homosexualism. Everisto, even when as
Speaker 1: far is installing microphones in the school bathrooms wow, and
Speaker 1: conducting inspections every five minutes to ensure no homosexualism. It's
Speaker 1: not even a word. I don't think was going down
Speaker 1: in his bathrooms. That's how serious he was about this stuff.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Is serious way to hate, right, yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and please, I'm not saying that every teacher at the
Speaker 1: Miami Aerospace Academy was bad or that they were abusing
Speaker 1: cadets because they weren't. A lot of kids and their
Speaker 1: families actually loved the academy, with some students going on
Speaker 1: to join the military, some became doctors and lawyers, one
Speaker 1: became a respected journalist, and one actually joined the space industry.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is that most of the stories I've
Speaker 1: read really emphasize the callousness of the staff and the
Speaker 1: abuse and Ivoristo's insatiable thirst for power. One former cadet
Speaker 1: compared the power hungry headmaster to former US President Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and his uncrunchable thirst for power and control. Take
Speaker 1: that ho you will, right, that's the cadets thought, not mine.
Speaker 1: It was even whispered among the cadets that eva Risto
Speaker 1: Marina was a practicing Santero, a male practitioner of Santaia,
Speaker 1: and many accused him of practicing black magic to try
Speaker 1: and conjure his way into political power. It was reported
Speaker 1: that on occasion, students found dead chickens and other symbols
Speaker 1: of ceremonial magic lying around campus.
Speaker 2: Like on the outside and the inside.
Speaker 1: Oh I don't know, Okay, they're just around campus, it said,
Speaker 1: Was this the proof that eva Risto was practicing some
Speaker 1: sort of black magic to force his way into Miami politics?
Speaker 1: Who knows?
Speaker 2: Some of this feels kind of like, uh also Haitian
Speaker 2: like da voodoo stuff. Oh chicken bones. And you think
Speaker 2: chickens were used a lot at least voodoo in general,
Speaker 2: like they're part of it in the culturals. Like, guys,
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's actually true, don't know for sure.
Speaker 2: I think of witch doctors, you know, from that from
Speaker 2: that land and that era, not just Haiti, mind you,
Speaker 2: but America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that. Now, whatever was happening
Speaker 1: with ceremonial magic and dead chickens, it didn't work because
Speaker 1: when Ivristo ran for Miami City Commissioner in nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: two and in the process diverted Academy profits to pay
Speaker 1: for his campaign, Ivaisto ultimately failed, and as a result,
Speaker 1: the Miami Aerospace Academy was forced to file bankruptcy in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, although it continued to operate for several
Speaker 1: more years. Right Actually, Iveristo would launch many failed attempts
Speaker 1: at a political career, and with each attempt, his money
Speaker 1: and his attention were divided, diverted further and further away
Speaker 1: from the Academy and away from upholding the Academy's mission
Speaker 1: of cadet betterment. Instead, we have reports of physical and
Speaker 1: sexual abuse, a frightened and repressed cadet population, a power
Speaker 1: hungry headmaster that may be practicing black magic, and there's
Speaker 1: rampant miss management and lack of funds. We're in a
Speaker 1: bad situation here, a powder keg, some might say, just
Speaker 1: to give you an idea of where Ivristo's mind was.
Speaker 1: Immediately after the explosive incident in October nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 1: when he was questioned by reporters, Ivristo dressed in pristine white,
Speaker 1: which is eerily reminiscent of how Centeo's dress, by the way.
Speaker 1: When questioned, he vehemently refuted any notion of supernatural involvement
Speaker 1: in the riot, dismissing the claims with an air of annoyance,
Speaker 1: and he said, quote such matters have no place within
Speaker 1: these walls his genuine concern. His genuine concern, however, seemed
Speaker 1: to stem not from the welfare of the children in
Speaker 1: his charge, but from the potential impact on his political aspirations.
Speaker 1: Paranoia tinged Evristo's words as he spoke about the event. Quote,
Speaker 1: someone has manipulated the children, a calculated ploy in the
Speaker 1: final week before the election to undermine me over time
Speaker 1: and from years of neglect, the grim reality of the
Speaker 1: Miami Aerospace Academy school building were finally laid bare. An
Speaker 1: investigative expose a by the Miami Herald unveiled a shocking truth.
Speaker 1: The Miami Aerospace Academy existed with them within a realm
Speaker 1: untethered by regulation, unbirded by licensing, bereft of accreditation, and
Speaker 1: devoid of supervision. Two city investigators ventured inside the academy's
Speaker 1: decaying walls, and what they discovered was a landscape of
Speaker 1: object squalor. For example, children resorted to bathing and bathtubs
Speaker 1: tainted by the repugnant presence of backed up feces. There
Speaker 1: was rampant accusations of abuse and rape. One female cadet
Speaker 1: claimed she became pregnant as a result of being raped,
Speaker 1: and one cadet died by drug overdose. It was discovered
Speaker 1: that one teacher quote unquote was a proud member of
Speaker 1: the Nazi Party, and a student whose name was changed
Speaker 1: was discovered to be a convicted murderer. What turns out,
Speaker 1: a boy named Clarence Carr, who had been convicted ten
Speaker 1: years probation for shooting his father in the head three
Speaker 1: times while he slept. Instead of the judge sentencing the
Speaker 1: kid to an official correctional facility, Car was instead sent
Speaker 1: to the Miami Aerospace Academy, whereas tuition was paid by
Speaker 1: a mysterious Hungarian benefactor. What go figure. And Clarence car
Speaker 1: was a chief bully at the academy along with a
Speaker 1: number of other students, and he would be charged with
Speaker 1: sexual assault, including that of an innocent six year old boy.
Speaker 1: And really it's because of this Miami Herald expose and
Speaker 1: that the disgusting things it uncovered that the Miami Aerospace
Speaker 1: Academy ultimately closed its doors in August nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 2: It's a long time from that point though, from the
Speaker 2: incident today now ultimately.
Speaker 1: Ivaristo Marina Elhenira died in two thousand and nine at
Speaker 1: the age of seventy nine, having never realized his political
Speaker 1: aspirations except for a brief position as the head of
Speaker 1: Miami Dade Fireboard, and his arch nemesis Fidel Castro, lived
Speaker 1: for another seven years. Yep Castro died in November twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: Evaristo was buried with a folded Aerospace Academy flag, and
Speaker 1: he will be remembered as el chenial, So what the
Speaker 1: hell happened here? Remember, there were tons of witnesses to
Speaker 1: this mass chaos event, including police, paramedics, firemen, members of
Speaker 1: the press. Here's where it really gets weird up until now. You,
Speaker 1: unfortunately have a story that's been heard before. A strict school,
Speaker 1: questionable management, troubled kids, corporal punishment. That kind of pushes
Speaker 1: the envelope. What's different about the Miami Aerospace Academy is
Speaker 1: apparently the teachers introduced the cadets to the occult, like
Speaker 1: taught occult practices in class without anyone's permission. And again
Speaker 1: it's rumored that al Kenny Rold himself practiced black magic.
Speaker 1: The theory is cadets began using stuff they learned in class,
Speaker 1: the Ouiji board, tarot cards, pendulums, and other vessels of
Speaker 1: the occult as a means of coping with and escaping
Speaker 1: the daily drudge of academy life. The students yearned to
Speaker 1: escape from the torment, and to do so, they sought
Speaker 1: solace in the realms of the supernatural and the occult.
Speaker 1: Just to give you an idea of how ingrained the
Speaker 1: occult the cadets into the occult, the cadets were. Check
Speaker 1: out the show notes and take a look at the
Speaker 1: Academy's nineteen seventy nine yearbook cover. That'll show you how
Speaker 1: into the stuff they are. The yearbook cover is jet black,
Speaker 1: and it's adorned with a foreboding twelve pointed star encircled
Speaker 1: by astrological signs and this other arcane symbology. It's crazy,
Speaker 1: and it really gives the insight into what the students
Speaker 1: were thinking and feeling back in seventy nine when this happened.
Speaker 1: Take a look. It's it's crazy, like that's their gearbook.
Speaker 1: So think about it. We have this intensely negative environment.
Speaker 1: You have a cadet populace that came from very religious,
Speaker 1: superstitious backgrounds. The cadets themselves are oppressed, they're angry. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of pent up fear and rage from being abused.
Speaker 1: Now you add this occult ingredient and you quite possibly
Speaker 1: have a recipe for disaster. Were the cadets at the
Speaker 1: Miami Aerospace Academy unknowingly weaponizing themselves using the school's negative
Speaker 1: atmosphere and the occult to revolt against their oppressors, And
Speaker 1: don't forget this shit, hit the fan on October twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: less than a week from Halloween, the time of the
Speaker 1: year that ancient Celts believed the veil between our world
Speaker 1: and the spirit world was the thinnest. Is that a coincidence?
Speaker 1: Did the cadets somehow punch a hole through that veil?
Speaker 1: Or did they open a portal and as a result,
Speaker 1: negative entities poured through and temporarily took up residents inside
Speaker 1: willing cadets of voluntary or involuntary mass possession? Or was
Speaker 1: this an instance of mass hallucination? In a Discovery Plus
Speaker 1: documentary I watch called The Devil's Academy documentary about the
Speaker 1: Miami Aerospace Academy incident, it was explained that on the
Speaker 1: night of October twenty fourth, so the night before the incident,
Speaker 1: a bunch of Aerospace Academy cadets got together for a
Speaker 1: house party. There's all these kids who share same trauma,
Speaker 1: have very similar backgrounds and spiritual upbringings, beliefs, and they're
Speaker 1: all pretty much in the same mindset. Now, at some
Speaker 1: point during the night at that party, the kids start
Speaker 1: messing with the cult stuff. Now, sidebar, I've done this
Speaker 1: shit too when I was a kid at you know,
Speaker 1: group sleepovers and stuff, fucking out, pups that hops that
Speaker 1: Uiji board, were doing stiff as a board, light as
Speaker 1: a feather. We're telling ghost stories, right, so I get it.
Speaker 1: One point during the night, the kids start messing with
Speaker 1: this occult stuff. Some are conducting seances, some are doing
Speaker 1: the Ouiji board, others are doing tarot. Girls are in
Speaker 1: the bathroom. They're trying to fucking do bloody Mary, which
Speaker 1: I've never done, by the way. To this day, it's
Speaker 1: said that as the night wore on, the kids started
Speaker 1: behaving really strange, acting paranoid, afraid of their own shadows,
Speaker 1: and they even began physically fighting with each other for
Speaker 1: no apparent reason. It's like something was building taking hold.
Speaker 1: What was it? By the morning of October twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine, the day of the recipe, was in
Speaker 1: place for shit to go down. You got these kids
Speaker 1: who are not okay, who've been regularly messing with the occult,
Speaker 1: and you have the intense events from the night before
Speaker 1: at the party. Kids go to class on the twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: still freaked out from the previous night, and as the
Speaker 1: story goes, a teacher overhears how freaked out the kids are,
Speaker 1: So she decides she's gonna try and hypnotize some of
Speaker 1: those students effort to calm them, including one of the
Speaker 1: girls that played Bloody Mary in the bathroom at the
Speaker 1: house party the night before. Now everyone's already in this
Speaker 1: susceptible state of mind. They're ready to believe, they believe,
Speaker 1: and this teacher tries digging into the psyche of an
Speaker 1: already traumatized teenage girl. Now, mind you, she's not a
Speaker 1: licensed hypnotherapist, likely not even a licensed teacher. Right, this
Speaker 1: girl freaks out, thinks she's under attack by demons, bolts
Speaker 1: to the bathroom, followed by a group of her concerned friends.
Speaker 1: She falls to the floor, screams at the devil's inside her.
Speaker 1: Her friends claim she levitates, and from there everyone suffers
Speaker 1: a temporary mass hallucination. So in this case, it's not
Speaker 1: actual portals and demons, but rather the power of suggestion
Speaker 1: impressed upon susceptible minds, minds that are ripe to believe
Speaker 1: demonic possession is not only real, it's happening. After all.
Speaker 1: It is a long held belief that quote unquote, demonic
Speaker 1: possession can yield strategic advance serving as a means for
Speaker 1: individuals with little power, in this case, angry suppressed students
Speaker 1: cadets to indirectly protest against their circumstances and the powers
Speaker 1: that be, while engaging in behaviors that would be wholly
Speaker 1: unacceptable under normal circumstances, in this case, running through the halls,
Speaker 1: destroying property, being violent, snarling, fighting, and acting like literal
Speaker 1: possessed animals. In this context, it wasn't Spirits or the Devil.
Speaker 1: It was the Miami Aerospace Academy cadets on a subconscious level,
Speaker 1: revolting and expressing their extreme discontent towards an oppressive regime
Speaker 1: that was exerting total control over them. Mix in some
Speaker 1: deep rooted old world beliefs and elements of the occult
Speaker 1: and boom perfect storm.
Speaker 2: So it almost feels like as a combination of factors. Now,
Speaker 2: the school was in disarray before the event. It's already
Speaker 2: been for like it's like.
Speaker 1: Six years, already for a very long time, right, bankruptcy before.
Speaker 2: So long for it to go down by the way,
Speaker 2: just something different, I don't know, maybe the school.
Speaker 1: Tuition, Maybe even Resto knew the right people back then.
Speaker 1: You can shake a hand, make a promise, sign a
Speaker 1: piece of paper.
Speaker 2: That's why so many killers got away with stuff too,
Speaker 2: And you know, it's just so much easier. So it
Speaker 2: almost feels like this is like a like a like
Speaker 2: some sort of giant prank almost or not prank that's
Speaker 2: maybe like a hybrid between a prank and like a
Speaker 2: call to action against or maybe not even against a
Speaker 2: helldo specifically, but the school there and that they, I mean,
Speaker 2: they must notice is in shambles. They must know how
Speaker 2: terrible it is. They must know these teachers are awful,
Speaker 2: terrible or they're really weird. And they must know that
Speaker 2: their other students, friends of theirs, are getting either raped
Speaker 2: or blasted or you know, beaten up or the other
Speaker 2: or they're doing it right, like it can't be great
Speaker 2: for years.
Speaker 1: They must know this.
Speaker 2: Imagine growing up in there from K to twelve in there,
Speaker 2: there's enough of time in there for a couple of
Speaker 2: students to be that far in right now, combine that
Speaker 2: with the event of nineteen seventy nine, I'm thinking it
Speaker 2: could be you put some drugs in here too, that
Speaker 2: could work. I'm thinking that it's like it's almost like
Speaker 2: their version of resisting right, resisting the institution that they're
Speaker 2: stuck in that they're fighting power man. Yeah, it is
Speaker 2: a little bit like that, but they have like actual grievances,
Speaker 2: you know, the agrievances of being that the school fucking
Speaker 2: socks they're training us terrible. They probably won't say like that,
Speaker 2: but you know they would just say, fuck this place,
Speaker 2: fucking hand it out, fuck your teachers, and why not
Speaker 2: use the only thing that they that they.
Speaker 1: Know is like weaponize the occult.
Speaker 2: Weaponize the occult, which is what they were taught there.
Speaker 2: Why were they taught this? Yeah, we don't know this.
Speaker 1: I know, but I don't know this. It's such a
Speaker 1: weird thing. So but then you know it's not bullshit
Speaker 1: because the fucking yearbook is a cult, the gothic thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I wish I could pull it up. I'll
Speaker 1: lose my spots in my No, no, I'll show you
Speaker 1: you and listeners again, go to the show notes. Look
Speaker 1: at this cover of the yearbook. You know, the cover
Speaker 1: of my yearbook. One of the students drew like it
Speaker 1: was a Catholic school. They drew some like Roman scene
Speaker 1: from like you know, back in the Roman times. So
Speaker 1: I'm really cool, that's what we had. You know this
Speaker 1: if you see it at first jet Black.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's really rare. You don't see that ever.
Speaker 1: And it looks like the symbols chemical romance there. It's
Speaker 1: the strangest thing. So you know, there was a cult
Speaker 1: ship going down. That's that's the evidence right there. White
Speaker 1: teachers were doing. And again I don't want to slander
Speaker 1: all the teachers at this place.
Speaker 2: First of all, fuck them. They're not there anymore. They're
Speaker 2: mostly dead.
Speaker 1: Now it's okay, Well I don't know if they're mostly dead.
Speaker 1: It's only seventy nine, but still.
Speaker 2: Right, not everyone's terrible, I'm sure, but like we don't know.
Speaker 2: Obviously the good ones didn't win out.
Speaker 1: All you hear is about is the bad good point. Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: So that's a very curious question. There's no way to
Speaker 2: dig into that. But I'm curious why why that?
Speaker 1: Why? How? How? And why? Most is like a joke
Speaker 1: so I could tell you, Like, so, when I was
Speaker 1: in high school, yeah, I was into this shit. Man.
Speaker 1: There was a couple of us who after school would
Speaker 1: do a wigi board in the halls of my Catholic
Speaker 1: high school. Okay, okay, and in the halls, not like
Speaker 1: the library and tables, the halls clear out, we sit
Speaker 1: down and we pressed out this Wiji board. This is
Speaker 1: fucking totally true. And one time one of the brothers,
Speaker 1: Golden God, thinks Golden I forgot his last name. Damn it,
Speaker 1: that's terrible. He came up to us and he's like
Speaker 1: fucking knowing, and you know, then he doing there, buddy.
Speaker 1: He sat with us and he talked to us about
Speaker 1: this stuff, and we got into some really good conversations.
Speaker 1: We kind of grew relationship from there. You know. Okay,
Speaker 1: we did We did do shit like this in school.
Speaker 1: In a Catholic school. We were doing this.
Speaker 2: I mean not every day, I mean if it was
Speaker 2: going to happen somewhere, And a Catholic school kind of
Speaker 2: makes sense, don't you think, because they would believe, you know,
Speaker 2: that stuff, maybe not believe it, but also yes, believe
Speaker 2: it more likely than a public school.
Speaker 1: I think it was the It was the we were
Speaker 1: doing something.
Speaker 2: This is this is dangerous, But that's your version of
Speaker 2: dangerous is Catholic because it connects to Catholicism. Like a
Speaker 2: dangerous version of that in a public school is getting
Speaker 2: your girl from pargnan.
Speaker 1: We're doing drugs joining the gang.
Speaker 2: Well this is my case, of course, this is how
Speaker 2: I grew up in my school, That's what was happening.
Speaker 2: But I remember I did both. I did both Catholic
Speaker 2: high school and regular public school. That could I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's the difference. Is the bad boy in you
Speaker 2: and a Catholic school is bringing out the Wiji board.
Speaker 1: No, maybe it's not so some other shit, but.
Speaker 2: I'm sure, yeah, maybe it's not so out of bounce.
Speaker 1: I guess my point is just right, it's not so
Speaker 1: out of bounds because we did it. You know. The
Speaker 1: other thing I wanted to mention too, about mass hallucination
Speaker 1: or mass something, that these these sleepovers we would have
Speaker 1: when we were and this is in grammar school, we
Speaker 1: would do the whole stiff as a board, light as
Speaker 1: a feather thing. And I swear to you listeners, Oscar
Speaker 1: on a holy Bible, that shit works, That fucking shit works.
Speaker 1: We took this kid, Chris, I probably shouldn't say his
Speaker 1: last name, fuck him. I am Chris moda Chinese kid,
Speaker 1: big dude. He was a big kid, not skinny by
Speaker 1: any means, large child, And we did the stiff as
Speaker 1: a board thing, light as a feather there were people
Speaker 1: at his shoulders, people at his hips, and people at
Speaker 1: his ankles on each side, right, and do you chant
Speaker 1: the whole stiff is the board lighters of everything? And
Speaker 1: we lifted that fat fuck up? Yeah, it really fucking
Speaker 1: works with two fingers. Yeah. Wow, So what's happening there?
Speaker 1: Is that a whole group? So it's not hallucination because
Speaker 1: or was it? Did it really happen? So here's my question.
Speaker 2: I was gonna bring that up too, like what is
Speaker 2: what is a mass hallucination?
Speaker 1: Like? Is there documented stuff on this? Yeah? Absolutely? Okay,
Speaker 1: can you give me an example of that? Maybe everyone
Speaker 1: else Satama medrig Or where where visions of Mary came
Speaker 1: to tons of people? The people? Okay, yeah, that does happen?
Speaker 1: And he absolute? I actually want to do an episode
Speaker 1: on those. What kind of visions? How do you explain that?
Speaker 2: How does how do people that obviously don't believe in
Speaker 2: this explain that away?
Speaker 1: You can't, You can't. What is a mass? Then you
Speaker 1: get into the crux of what is a mass?
Speaker 2: What is then I'm asking you and what is a
Speaker 2: mass of lit? Did they all drink the bad water?
Speaker 2: Is that what happened?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's you. I'm saying, it's.
Speaker 2: Like when you go to what's that really famous California
Speaker 2: hippie concert thing people go to Coachella. When you go
Speaker 2: to Coachello Joshua Tree, it makes sense they're all taking
Speaker 2: a lot of drugs. I think it's a pretty request
Speaker 2: set to going in there, based on I've met a
Speaker 2: few people that go there almost annually. And yes, the
Speaker 2: exit they look exactly like the way you think they
Speaker 2: would look like. It's so uncanny, how how dead on
Speaker 2: they are anyway, And and I'm not surprised, Like I'm
Speaker 2: not as surprised obviously, maybe I shouldn't be. If a
Speaker 2: massive people that are I don't say hardcore, you know,
Speaker 2: religious believers, but just say religious believers can have a
Speaker 2: mass hallucination of the Virgin Mary and the same capacity
Speaker 2: as all these people are fucking tripping at Joshua Tree,
Speaker 2: and a lot of them I trip on the same
Speaker 2: thing when they're watching the same light show. Right, makes sense.
Speaker 2: I guess I can. I can correlate those two things.
Speaker 2: What is going on in the school? I think I might.
Speaker 2: I might be down for that being an explanation considering
Speaker 2: these kids all grow up catholic as fuck. South America
Speaker 2: is catholic as fuck.
Speaker 1: People.
Speaker 2: You don't bring you don't bring your atheism down there.
Speaker 1: Me wrong.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna nowadays and I gonna kick you on anything,
Speaker 2: but they're not gonna like you, and they might even
Speaker 2: tell you that's just the way it is.
Speaker 1: Well, then your parents have an issue with you for
Speaker 1: years and years because you're you don't build, you're not Catholic.
Speaker 1: Well they don't know that. I thought they did and
Speaker 1: they hated that. Move on. Sorry, no, you're fine. They
Speaker 1: listen to you, I hope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's uh, there's a you know, at the
Speaker 2: very least some like nothing super lapsed. But yes, they
Speaker 2: would have a problem with that though. Yeah, uh so
Speaker 2: I guess I can buy that as a reason. My
Speaker 2: first thinking was like I was going down to grow,
Speaker 2: like is this some sort of like a renegade thing, like, uh,
Speaker 2: they're they're they're boycotting this thing that officially not like
Speaker 2: the French do, but like hating on this thing, like
Speaker 2: a hardcore version, a metal version even like hating on
Speaker 2: their school and chap because of what's going on. But no,
Speaker 2: I mean I'm trying to buy that and I can't.
Speaker 2: I don't buy it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's thert of thing too about that theory is
Speaker 1: that and it's a good theory, just as good as any.
Speaker 1: If you read the Facebook page, you don't get that
Speaker 1: feeling that it was so bad where the kids had
Speaker 1: to whether consciously or unconsciously, weaponize themselves with the occult
Speaker 1: and then it just exploded.
Speaker 2: You don't get people wear rose colored glasses one decades pass.
Speaker 1: You know that.
Speaker 2: That's interesting And also like again, it's because it's the seventies,
Speaker 2: because it's Florida, and because it's like I don't know
Speaker 2: how the teachers were demographically speaking, but they must be.
Speaker 1: From the area. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's just say they are combine all that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're gonna they're not gonna talk about it. They're gonna
Speaker 2: be like a World War two dad coming home from
Speaker 2: the war and not for telling you a single goddamn
Speaker 2: thing that happen to them over the war, for this
Speaker 2: whole life. It's gonna be like that. I'm not surprised
Speaker 2: by that. People try hard to forget shit like that.
Speaker 1: That's a good Yeah, you got a point. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like to the people we're still up.
Speaker 2: There, but not as much these days, for sure. We're
Speaker 2: much more open about that kind of thing. Yeah, nowadays,
Speaker 2: for the last twenty thirty years, but seventies, Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: in it. I'm not surprised by that.
Speaker 1: Well, then you get the whole angle of Evaristo in
Speaker 1: his quest for power and his you know, supposed just
Speaker 1: hardcore practices, corporal punishment, practicing black magic. Does that have
Speaker 1: anything to do with it? Is this a top down hallucination?
Speaker 2: Is this a I mean, I'd be interested. I'd be
Speaker 2: interested to like see what kind of figure he was
Speaker 2: seen at at the school. You mix the corporate punishment
Speaker 2: with the cult of any kind or religious of any kind.
Speaker 2: You can see, like you know, and children are very
Speaker 2: they're super pressurable from impressionable. Sorry, yes, And on top
Speaker 2: of that, you know they're going through a lot of things,
Speaker 2: not just hormones and so many things. Can see them
Speaker 2: freaking out about that kind of thing and worried that
Speaker 2: there's there headmaster is a.
Speaker 1: Kin occultis you know? I wouldn't be surprised, and that
Speaker 1: could lead into a mass hallucination thing. Mass hallucination is
Speaker 1: basically like mob rule, right, but in a different way
Speaker 1: because when you get to blot up in a in
Speaker 1: a mob rule, right, in a mob setting, like everyone's doing,
Speaker 1: where the first guy throws that first, that first bottle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's that group think that yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, and I fires everyone up. You do the same
Speaker 2: thing with a group of dogs. Do you see that
Speaker 2: happening too?
Speaker 1: Think there's parallels between mass hallucination and like groupthink and
Speaker 1: mob rule.
Speaker 2: Because we always, you know, we can always say oh yeah,
Speaker 2: my brol that's totally thing everyone knows, that's the thing
Speaker 2: that can happen, right, that's why the cops are worried
Speaker 2: when there's a protest.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also right, leave alone.
Speaker 2: And there's been examples in this country alone, which is
Speaker 2: not a very country, yeah, where that happens. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: don't what other explanations are there in the internet or
Speaker 2: do you have any other like possible explanations or theories.
Speaker 1: I mean, the only only thing I could think of
Speaker 1: is like you said, well, what was in the water
Speaker 1: you know? Right? Why you know? And if the building
Speaker 1: is in disrepair and it's it's becoming doc is there
Speaker 1: like rusting the water whens and ship Yeah? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's you know, one thing they always talk about
Speaker 1: in paranormal investigations, is you know, black mold could cause
Speaker 1: hallucinations and visuals and stuff like that, you know, prolonged
Speaker 1: exposure of that stuff. You know.
Speaker 2: I've been watching watching this show called Evil Love It.
Speaker 2: Oh yah, also my season two We're Religious.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know how many seas. I know, there's
Speaker 2: a lot. I start watching and I like binging it
Speaker 2: kind of like in the background. It's really fun. But
Speaker 2: that show does a lot of work, tries to do
Speaker 2: a lot of work as show you the the completely
Speaker 2: scientific explanation to things, right, and they do a lot
Speaker 2: of things. And that one guy, the tech guy, especially
Speaker 2: like he's really good at at least so far, he's
Speaker 2: been really good at being the scully and explaining it away, like, Nope,
Speaker 2: it's that you're just watching that makes that noise to night. Nope,
Speaker 2: it's the black mold in this thing. I was like, wow, okay, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean maybe that could explain why it affected some group
Speaker 1: of students. Is the building still there? No? Right, No,
Speaker 1: the building's gone. The building has gone.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine I have a picture of it? Break
Speaker 2: in there? Man, I mean, we're not going on.
Speaker 1: H Yeah, that's the only thing I can really think
Speaker 1: of is that there's something something in the water. I
Speaker 1: don't know, something in the atmosphere, you know.
Speaker 2: I had another thought, is that, Okay, so who ever
Speaker 2: a I'll tended out, did he or I hate him personally,
Speaker 2: but he built that building or was it there already
Speaker 2: that I don't know. I'd be curious to find out
Speaker 2: because one of my when you were telling the story
Speaker 2: and you were describing a lot more about him, I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: he's clearly a big part of it. I was thinking
Speaker 2: that this is like a resident evil kind of thing,
Speaker 2: where like it builds like an a ABD mansion and everyone
Speaker 2: in it like a part of something. It's like almost
Speaker 2: like thirteen Ghosts two, that's a very like the building
Speaker 2: itself is part of the occult, right that brings out
Speaker 2: the ghost Like is it like like a consecratic gown,
Speaker 2: like it's is he fucking with everyone? Is it like
Speaker 2: built in such in such a way, like like the
Speaker 2: building again in Ghostbusters that's built to bring in zool right?
Speaker 2: You think of that was like, what kind of building
Speaker 2: is this?
Speaker 1: That's so curious? It was, right, purpose I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, ask him much credit probably if it
Speaker 1: existed or if he had it built that I don't know.
Speaker 2: Although I don't, I don't do. I completely buy that
Speaker 2: Castro would from Cuba because he had had a lot
Speaker 2: of influence in Florida, ship town of influence that he
Speaker 2: squashed all of his political witches. I won't be surprised
Speaker 2: at all that he saw his motherfucker. He's like, you
Speaker 2: can stay in that fucking school. You're not getting further
Speaker 2: than that. And every time he tried to raise money
Speaker 2: or whatever, he had his guy squashed it. Now could
Speaker 2: it be him? That could have been his influence? The
Speaker 2: political stuff led to this insanity what happened in seventy nine?
Speaker 2: You mean as a as a way to write, as
Speaker 2: a way to demean him, to sabotage him. So think
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: One students were Patsy's almost in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, that's that's also slightly possible. I still
Speaker 2: buy the Macesteria more. But that's possible, it should be said.
Speaker 1: I guess, I just I really think there's something to
Speaker 1: be said about teenage angst. Yes, the paranormal abuse that
Speaker 1: was a ball Afreid wires control headmaster and that could that.
Speaker 1: I think it could just be a powder keg. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And whether they actually summon something knowingly or unknowingly, or
Speaker 1: it was just a mental break for a couple hours,
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't say which, but I could see
Speaker 1: it happen. I could see something like that exploding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, the mental break mass hallucination thing sounds.
Speaker 1: Like, especially you got the night before they're partying and
Speaker 1: doing all this crazy. They're coming into school, they're scared,
Speaker 1: they're they're primed and ready to go. Man, Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It would have been could have been in
Speaker 1: the ground floor there, yeah, yeah, it would have been
Speaker 1: cool to see that kid who got up off that
Speaker 1: second window got off off the ground. You know it
Speaker 1: was his eyes really glowing red. Did he really throw
Speaker 1: a teacher or throw the student to throw each other
Speaker 1: like rag dolls?
Speaker 2: Right, like rag dolls like superhuman thing that bugging the
Speaker 2: doors off the hinges?
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I don't know. We'll never know. Unfortunately, no, no,
Speaker 1: may you read that Facebook page. You're not figuring anything out.
Speaker 1: And it's so largely forgotten too, like no one really
Speaker 1: knows about this one.
Speaker 2: It can't be. I mean, it's gottay, it's gotta be students.
Speaker 2: They are adults now that remember yeah, yeah, yeah on
Speaker 2: that group.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. But and why they don't talk about it,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Is that there is that their version of Waco or Vietnam,
Speaker 2: like they just try to forget it. Something horrible happened. Good,
Speaker 2: you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucks, there's no answer. But it's also the seventies,
Speaker 2: like it really that that era.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I know it's seventy nine, like, oh, so close to eighties,
Speaker 2: but it's the seventies. It sucks, man, there's no camera,
Speaker 2: no nothing, there's no way to Oh.
Speaker 1: My god, could you imagine today, there'd be videos everywhere
Speaker 1: this stuff? See that? Yeah, but interesting story. Yes, I
Speaker 1: never heard of this. It's crazy. That's something that just happened. Good.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you liked it. Glad I've been sitting there.
Speaker 2: It would make a cool movie, I think, so. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know how you ended. You have to give it.
Speaker 2: You have to pick a reason, you have to make
Speaker 2: up your own.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. The trend today is you know Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Oh make up your own mind. Moviegoer, you lazy fuck.
Speaker 1: Oh a lot of movies do that. I hate that.
Speaker 1: Give me an ending.
Speaker 2: I like some of those, some of those, some of
Speaker 2: those work.
Speaker 1: Well, bring me home. You could do it. You could
Speaker 1: do that right, But you're right, a lot of them
Speaker 1: don't do it right. Yeah. So you could get away
Speaker 1: doing the Miami Aerospace Academy and just leave a cliffhanger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: figure it out yourselves. Ye, lazy fucks makes me sewing.
Speaker 1: I took this two hour ride with you. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're just gonna lead me somewhere stranded. No,
Speaker 1: bring me home, man, bring me Why did it happen?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Who are these people? That's what I got.
Speaker 1: That's fun. Good. I'm glad you're like, I'm glad.
Speaker 2: We this ve been supernatural. It's been a while, it has.
Speaker 2: I mean, we did the I mean the last one
Speaker 2: was a little supernatural, but this one's a little more wheel.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The last one was more whimsical, kind of this one. Yeah, supernatural.
Speaker 1: You're good. It's been a while. I like this one. Good, good,
Speaker 1: good good. I don't know what the next ones are
Speaker 1: gonna be. We're gonna have some more supernatural.
Speaker 2: State tun Oh wait, I would say, previously next time
Speaker 2: on the S O S it's it's still not the name?
Speaker 2: Was that shows?
Speaker 1: Not? Then? Where are we the Supernatural Occurring Studies podcast?
Speaker 1: What s A West stand for? Yeah? I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: Okay, you better, but you guys like, am I getting
Speaker 2: this name?
Speaker 1: I can't. It was the last episode of the one
Speaker 1: before that where when made a joke when you say yeah, no, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna finish my whiskey. I don't know about you.
Speaker 1: I'm about to oscar take us home. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: to get there. I was like the bear we're watching
Speaker 1: the new season. It's such a good show, like it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I just finished it last night? Oh you did?
Speaker 1: Was it? Was it good to? I liked it? Yes?
Speaker 1: I did. I'm liking it so far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really liking it. It's nothing bad to say
Speaker 2: about it. Necessarily, I would say the third season is
Speaker 2: probably the worst. It's not the worst, isn't because they're
Speaker 2: all amazing. It's still amazing. It's just third place.
Speaker 1: I get you. I was reading an article the other
Speaker 1: day and I don't remember if you if you remember
Speaker 1: last time we were here talking, we were talking about
Speaker 1: the bear and I said, I believe it's based off
Speaker 1: Al's You said that, yes, and I read an article
Speaker 1: it did say that it is nice. Yeah, good show
Speaker 1: interviewed a vampire really good on AMC. Yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: haven't watched it.
Speaker 2: No, I heard good things, but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: It's on HBO, right.
Speaker 1: We want you on AMC. Oh, you have AMC plus.
Speaker 1: We has AMC plus. I don't even remember someone has it.
Speaker 1: We got it.
Speaker 2: I've never met a person that had it.
Speaker 1: We pay for our own Netflix and Hulu. Now I
Speaker 1: thought you did already. What were you using?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but now they have they locked down that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they made it a lot more difficult. But Netflix anyway,
Speaker 1: and Severro's been caught before. He had to pay a
Speaker 1: big fine for uh have you ever heard about this? No,
Speaker 1: the fucking Cobbler the uh huh yeah, Adam Sandler movie,
Speaker 1: that piece of ship movie. I've never seen it.
Speaker 2: It looked terrible.
Speaker 1: He I think it was like five or six thousand
Speaker 1: dollars he had to pay because he downloaded it, and
Speaker 1: he was caught by his internet service provider. By Comcast's
Speaker 1: years ago obviously whatever. Yeah, whenever the came out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was caught for a fucking cobbler. So when Netflix
Speaker 1: started getting little iffy, I didn't want anything to happen
Speaker 1: to him. So we just fine, will pay the eight
Speaker 1: dollars a month. Fuckers, it's more than that. I don't Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even know, Like that's the highest one right now?
Speaker 1: Netflix is I think so well, I don't know. Rob
Speaker 1: pays it. Oh you use use it? Well?
Speaker 2: We all share, everyone fucking does. Yeah, we all share
Speaker 2: a lot. Like between Roth and me. We he has
Speaker 2: like three or four. I have my own two or
Speaker 2: three that I pay for that he has access to.
Speaker 2: I use your shutter, right, your shutter is a big one.
Speaker 2: Everyone loves the shutter.
Speaker 1: Did do you have Hulu? I do? Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: could use her Hulu.
Speaker 2: I do have Hulu. Oh yeah, we have nearly everything.
Speaker 2: I don't have Pekaka. That's still when I had to
Speaker 2: ask year and I canceled it.
Speaker 1: We have it. Don't know where we're getting it from,
Speaker 1: but we got okay, you got.
Speaker 2: Its fly from us some deal I know, like we
Speaker 2: like Spotify and that company know or or because Italia
Speaker 2: has it. There's always they always combined things.
Speaker 1: Oh, speaking of Spotify, did I tell you how you
Speaker 1: got the job? Yes? Did? I was here? Yes? So
Speaker 1: she got a job in Starbucks. They give her a
Speaker 1: free premium version of Spotify. Yeah, they do. I had
Speaker 1: I had one when I was working there. It's so cool,
Speaker 1: Like just little things like that. She's like, I don't
Speaker 1: have to pay the eighteen bucks more the better help.
Speaker 2: No, it's not a different one. There's like a lot
Speaker 2: of sites you can use the free all Sketchers. You
Speaker 2: get like sixty percent off on shoes or something. Really yeah,
Speaker 2: if we have to go natural sketchers.
Speaker 1: I know. Today they went out Katie and Talia and
Speaker 1: her friends here from out of town, and they went
Speaker 1: to Starbucks and Ty's like, ah, I have a I
Speaker 1: work here. I work for Starbucks. And she got almost
Speaker 1: like ten dollars off the order and she felt so great.
Speaker 1: Yea yeah, oh yeah, And like the little Spotify thing
Speaker 1: now she could save. I think she's a white girl,
Speaker 1: definitely any love it. But she gets to save like
Speaker 1: eighteen bucks a month. To her, that's that's huge. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: being able to save eighteen bucks a month for Spotify
Speaker 1: whatever it is. How much it is. Damn, I don't
Speaker 1: pay for someone else pays for money.
Speaker 2: But you were paying for whatever was paying for it
Speaker 2: was paying for hers too.
Speaker 1: No, Tali, she would put it on her Apple account,
Speaker 1: got it. I think she did through Apple. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: she got bid a couple of times she didn't have
Speaker 1: the money in there. Then it bounced and then yeah
Speaker 1: she kids learn, they learn. But yeah, just a bunch
Speaker 1: of benefits through Starbucks. It. I was really unproud for her. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think me too, honestly. Yeah, yeah, so it's it's
Speaker 1: just funny. It's funny. But anyway, sorry I rambled. No,
Speaker 1: it's fine. It makes great outtics. I didn't listen to
Speaker 1: the outtakes all the all the outtakes from the.
Speaker 2: From the first one, there was a lot of them.
Speaker 2: I cut it down on the second one.
Speaker 1: On the Dream, Yes, dream that okay, Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to listen to him to.
Speaker 2: I just actually only put so much in there. I
Speaker 2: basically put not all, but most of our Game of
Speaker 2: Thrones talk.
Speaker 1: Oh really, did you watch it house the Dream? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Red Dragon and the gold Dude, I realize how
Speaker 1: bigxis vagar Aimon drives Vegar Yes, oh, so Vegar is
Speaker 1: the biggest.
Speaker 2: Vega is the biggest. He has the biggest what uh?
Speaker 2: And may List was so bad ass.
Speaker 1: Though, And that was the one that Corliss was on.
Speaker 2: No, Rainus was on. Corliss is her husband.
Speaker 1: The last name is Cordless.
Speaker 2: Oh my, what's his first name?
Speaker 1: I can't remember her first They calling him.
Speaker 2: Corda is the first name. Okay, I got that wrong.
Speaker 1: No, their last name is Rainus.
Speaker 2: Raynie is her name, Maylis is her dragon, the red dragon,
Speaker 2: and the sunfire is guns. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it
Speaker 2: was sad. You know, in the bug it's supposed to
Speaker 2: have golden fire. Really they didn't put golden fire, Like
Speaker 2: I don't I kind of want to see that. But
Speaker 2: that was cool though. It's a cool battle.
Speaker 1: They must have some big budgets man. Oh they have
Speaker 1: a lot of massive budgets to do. When when Vigar came,
Speaker 1: when you finally saw it, well, first of all, when
Speaker 1: he came up out of the forest.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he was like, dude, slow your rolling, and he goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just the moss hanging off them and ship, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do this. But then when he first came sailing
Speaker 1: across the sky, man, Yes, there's no way any of
Speaker 1: these guys stand a chance, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, you know, for a second, may List looked
Speaker 2: like because Mayless is also considered to be the not
Speaker 2: anymore but the fastest dragon in that era. Oh okay,
Speaker 2: so you think that you know you can if you
Speaker 2: hit the underside right, and if you or as soon
Speaker 2: as it turns away, you can actually high tail it
Speaker 2: back to Dragonstone. I mean you got the king right, right,
Speaker 2: you could? But no, she I think she not not saying,
Speaker 2: had a death wish but maybe a little bit and
Speaker 2: decided to stay instead of run. And then Vigo came
Speaker 2: up out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: God, and then when they're blowing fire on each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have favorite characters, I mean a lot
Speaker 2: of them are gonna die. Don't get used to it,
Speaker 2: and you don't get used to anybody.
Speaker 1: There was quite I mean a bunch of there's a
Speaker 1: lot of good stuff that happened in that episode.
Speaker 2: Man, I mean, do you think what do you think
Speaker 2: is happening with Damon?
Speaker 1: The dreams? Oh right, because he isn't Haron Hall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the ghosts of hearing.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are saying it could be the
Speaker 2: ghost of heron Hall, right, or it could be children
Speaker 2: of the Forest because Harron Hall hair in the black
Speaker 2: the guy who built Harron Hall when it was before burned,
Speaker 2: he cut down a lot of warward trees.
Speaker 1: Right and wasn't his. But where did I read this?
Speaker 1: Somewhere in his bed that he was sleeping in was
Speaker 1: made out of wear wood or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe so, yeah, And it was on and
Speaker 2: then one of his visions, and I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's in the castle or not. I'm not one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: There was a giant wereword tree there and in his
Speaker 2: first vision the episode before and and then also there's
Speaker 2: that maister witch lady the River's girl.
Speaker 1: Now yeah, who uh.
Speaker 2: Some people are are saying that it's Melissandra when she
Speaker 2: was young.
Speaker 1: No, because is really old right right? Right? Because when
Speaker 1: that wasn't the when the necklace has gone.
Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, but like super old, she's like one
Speaker 2: hundreds of years old. It could be from this era.
Speaker 1: We don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that. By the way,
Speaker 2: that's not in the book. That would be cool. Or
Speaker 2: if she's if she's not, she could be a witch
Speaker 2: with different alterior motives. So we don't know, maybe giving him,
Speaker 2: giving Damon like food that's making him, you know, having
Speaker 2: his visions and stuff.
Speaker 1: We don't know. For good oil, we don't know. She
Speaker 1: did give him something, Yeah, she did blatantly. Yeah.
Speaker 2: People online were saying that it looks just like the
Speaker 2: substance that Brand took in Game of Thrones. I forgot
Speaker 2: which what scene, but it was it was relating to
Speaker 2: his visions.
Speaker 1: Really do people get so deep they?
Speaker 2: I know, that's why they do the work for me.
Speaker 2: I just go read what they Oh yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: what do I?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So here and wasn't here in hall like the biggest.
Speaker 2: It's it's still like considered to be the biggest stronghold.
Speaker 2: It's just useless because the egg on the Conqueror came
Speaker 2: in with the black dread the dragon he had drag
Speaker 2: that that puts vague or the shame maybe or on
Speaker 2: the same size maybe and came in and like yeah
Speaker 2: you like, yeah, he sees this in Pendeuricrable fortress, which
Speaker 2: is awesome at the time, and he just burns the
Speaker 2: whole thing like they burned him alive, and everyone's burnt
Speaker 2: alive in there.
Speaker 1: That's why it looks like that. It just burns from.
Speaker 2: Above and just burnt everything down, very cool, and that
Speaker 2: became the curse. Like no one can hold that place anymore.
Speaker 2: Everyone who tries dies. I mean the Strongs died in
Speaker 2: the big fire last year. Now that wasn't that wasn't
Speaker 2: like fate. It was done on purpose.
Speaker 1: But like that there right, which they say, that's why
Speaker 1: all the ghosts are there. Yeah, the nearest love her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's getting into it now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's great.
Speaker 2: Imagine she had gone instead of Rainus because Rainus volunteered too.
Speaker 1: She wanted to, they convinced her not to, and of
Speaker 1: course what's allison. Yes, she drank the little.
Speaker 2: Abortion, milk of the pop no, milk of the poppy,
Speaker 2: the moon tea, boon tea. Right, yeah so she yeah,
Speaker 2: kind of hypocritical a little yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 1: And her her suitor is out there on the road.
Speaker 1: What's the name again, hold Kristen Cole, Chris Christian, he's
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: He had a sound plan if a gun hadn't like
Speaker 2: you know, trumped in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah he got he got drunken.
Speaker 2: And Aimon took advantage too.
Speaker 1: I mean, man, so what do you think about that?
Speaker 1: Do you think, do you think a gun is dead?
Speaker 2: Well, I know the truth. Do you want me to
Speaker 2: tell you the truth?
Speaker 1: Okay, because it sure looked like a Aimond was going
Speaker 1: in for the kill. Okay, what do you think? Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Nice Jay. If I was listening to the outtakes, you
Speaker 2: just snorted a line.
Speaker 1: Did one of my busting rails of my basement? Whiskey
Speaker 1: and Cocaine. Yep, that's a Johnny Cat song. Uh, Cocaine blues,
Speaker 1: Cocain Blues.
Speaker 2: I want to say, that's not called Whiskey and Cocaine.
Speaker 2: I was like trying to think of the title. That's
Speaker 2: not one of his titles. Okay, they ready for account
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we could uncork and port Yeah, while we're
Speaker 1: drinking