WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:04.839 Somethings going to happen? 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What's going to happen? 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:15.519 What? 4 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:28.280 Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode. I got a 5 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:32.280 bunch of us together with another author and very excited 6 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:35.119 to have him on. I've seen him on other shows 7 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:37.520 and I think he has some really impressive, deep shit 8 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:40.439 to talk about. And I think something very interesting about 9 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:42.479 this man as you started at a young age, very 10 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:45.000 lucky in my opinion. But before we get to him, 11 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:48.679 we will introduce some of the other rejects. Lisa the 12 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:51.399 Occult reject med Scientist, How will you? 13 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:55.840 I'm good, I'm good. Thank you for inviting me, Helen 14 00:00:55.920 --> 00:00:59.320 fellow rejects and very excited to hear what Alex Sander 15 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:02.600 is going to be talking about today. Just wanted to 16 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:06.439 plug the occult research into dot org and check us 17 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:09.959 out on Mary Jacks have contributed to that in literary form, 18 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:12.959 so check us out on a cult research institute dot org. 19 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:15.879 Awesome, Thank you very much. Would you like to let 20 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:17.599 anybody know what contact in case I would like to 21 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:19.840 get in touch with you all the podcasts getting. 22 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:25.319 To sure Twitter, so Lese, Lisa. 23 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:28.239 Litome, thank you very much, and Jin the Ninja. What 24 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:30.840 is going on, sir, what is that? 25 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:31.319 Boss? 26 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:33.280 Thank you so much for inviting me on. It's been 27 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:36.680 a little while, but I'm always excited to podcast with 28 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:40.799 you guys. And hello to Lisa, Bennett, Tyrone and Alexander. 29 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:44.079 Of course, I want to plug our episode just dropped 30 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:46.400 on Chat It Down, which I'm pretty proud of, to 31 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:48.519 be honest, because I think we sounded like super tight 32 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:52.640 and cohesive and like we're you know, spending the same message. 33 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:56.280 Magic's real. If you want to check me out, you 34 00:01:56.359 --> 00:01:59.200 can on Twitter woukom Reborn, w k O and g 35 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:02.120 Reborn for the show account at Threshold Saints, which is 36 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:06.439 also the same for IG I'm calling it this week, 37 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:10.919 we're calling it terminally online ocall to audio easin so 38 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:16.840 conversations on metamagic basically, so if you're interested in. 39 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:17.560 That, check me out. 40 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:18.599 Thank you guys. 41 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:22.199 Awesome, Thank you very much, and definitely keep an eye 42 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:24.840 out for he's got another episode dropping with Toby Chappelle 43 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:27.080 for the people who aren't scared. Check that one out. 44 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:30.439 Thank you very much, Jen, and we got Benny joining 45 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:31.800 us today again. What is going on? 46 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:31.960 Sir? 47 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:33.159 It's always a pleasure to have you. 48 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:38.439 Hey, everybody, thanks for having me on Hello Other Rejects, 49 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:46.599 and you can check out my podcast Broadcasting Seeds at 50 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:51.599 all the normal places YouTube and all the audio players 51 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:56.879 that are out there, and then also at broadcasting seeds 52 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.919 dot com and that's probably the best place to get 53 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:03.080 hold of me as well, or on Instagram. Probably do 54 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:07.520 the most on Instagram. 55 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:07.240 So well, thank you very much. Minute and I always 56 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:09.680 appreciate you joining us. And last but not least, we 57 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:11.520 got Tyrone, what is going on my. 58 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:16.360 Mat It was going on everybody, So what's up alex Man. 59 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:19.080 It's been a minute since we talked. Definitely excited to 60 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:21.680 talk to you again. Of course we talked on my 61 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:25.199 show before. On your book. I love your book, great book. 62 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:30.520 Always recommend every thanks, thanks, I appreciate it. Everything that 63 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:32.759 you can find me on is on my website, rebirth 64 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:35.360 at theWord dot com. Thanks for having me on, Nick, 65 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:36.879 because alex is man, He's. 66 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:39.319 Recommends I can highly recommend. 67 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:44.560 Thank you, Thank you, Tyrone. And finally to the man himself, Alexander, 68 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:46.719 please h not even going to try to pronounce your 69 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:50.879 last name, So I guess let everybody know. Let everybody 70 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.520 know what you're dealing and what you're about, and where 71 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:55.639 they can find your book or books. 72 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:59.159 My book in English is available on Amazon. It's today. 73 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:02.120 Ja Vi has everything already dibbin and I think if 74 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:05.000 you just copy paste my name and surname, you will 75 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:08.599 find it on most of the amazons like US, Canada, 76 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:13.360 Australia and many others. So Dejavic has everything already been 77 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:16.560 and you can find me on many social media jazz 78 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:19.480 as I mentioned, copy paste my name and surname and 79 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:20.920 you will for sure find me. 80 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:26.040 Awesome. Thank you very much, Alexander. At first, I would 81 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:29.439 also like to thank Mike and Dave, especially Dave. He 82 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:32.040 hoped put us together. So that's what's up. Appreciate that, sir. 83 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:35.639 One of the things I guess is before we even 84 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:38.360 kind of get into your stuff. Not take guess to 85 00:04:38.399 --> 00:04:40.879 get too personal with you right away, but I do 86 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:43.399 know from the things I have read, you kind of 87 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:45.160 got into this at a young age, like around I 88 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:49.639 think it said seventeen. There's a great number. How did that? 89 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:52.720 I'm just gonna be honest, How does that happen? Like 90 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:56.319 with it influence from family, friends, school, something on like TV? 91 00:04:56.959 --> 00:05:00.000 How does somebody get into the esoteric or even stuff 92 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.920 like atlantisk correct? At age sirventeen. How did that happen? 93 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:07.720 I mean yes, I would say it was heavily influenced, 94 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:11.800 not maybe by school itself, but by study not only 95 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:14.680 for school, but also for plenty of competitions. 96 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:16.519 And at one point during. 97 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:19.959 My middle high school, I was at the point that 98 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:25.040 there were problems with choosing high school because of the 99 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:27.360 governmental reforms of some kind. 100 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:28.720 It was much. 101 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:31.279 Harder than before to go to a good high school. 102 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:35.959 So in order to be safe, I went on many competitions, 103 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:39.800 including historical one, and it was the historical one that 104 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:44.079 led me to all of this research. And then, as 105 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.160 you mentioned, writing my book at the age of seventeen. 106 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:49.800 So I wrote it at seventeen. Then I ended to. 107 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:54.360 Wait until eighteen years old to publish it. Published then 108 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:57.920 at eighteen in Poland, and then the next year, at nineteen, 109 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:00.800 I translated it myself to English. 110 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:02.759 So this was the journey. 111 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:07.040 And it started because for that kind of competition. 112 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:07.439 I needed to learn. 113 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:10.639 I would say all of the history. Maybe, of course, 114 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:13.120 not all all. I don't want to brag, but I 115 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:18.279 would say the whole picture of how our history is 116 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:22.959 accepted by academias, So from all the even before history prehistory, 117 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:27.639 how minutes, all the evolution up until let's say our species, 118 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:32.680 then through cavemen into first settlements and first city civilizations 119 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:34.040 and so on and so. 120 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:35.519 On up until modern times. 121 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:38.639 And I think that because of that that I acquired 122 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:43.040 this holistic picture. I started questioning things, is it really 123 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:47.560 all we know about their history? Why it couldn't turn 124 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:50.680 out to be different way? How do we know that 125 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:55.519 everything was just as it is portrayed in textbooks and 126 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:58.759 academic books and so on. So I started digging deeper 127 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:01.360 and deeper. First, as I mentioned, from let's say a 128 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:05.480 materialistic point of view, I was very heavily into science, 129 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:09.839 all kinds of science, from biology, physics of course, also 130 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:13.639 into history and stuff like that. And then at some 131 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:18.040 point I went even beyond the materialistic part in matteristic 132 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:24.199 science and went into alternative history, and then into spirituality 133 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:27.439 and everything that is non physical. And I would say that, 134 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:30.879 you know, it was a very fun now looking at it, 135 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:34.639 because I would say that I have two power paths 136 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:37.879 going on at the same time when I started this research. 137 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:42.199 At one point I was so invested into research. I 138 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:45.600 was reading books, you know, like crazy, These are all 139 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:49.040 real and I have plenty of more in my room 140 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:51.279 and read throughout these years. 141 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:54.040 And on one point this. 142 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:58.160 Was like two hands, two paths, and these were all together, 143 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.160 like during one point in my life and I was 144 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:03.879 heavily researching. I would say this was the masculine part, 145 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.360 like heavily research research and you know, get this knowledge. 146 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:07.839 And at the. 147 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:12.040 Same time I would say I had spiritual awakening or 148 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:16.079 something like that, because before that, I would say I 149 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:19.879 was maybe an atheist or agnostic, something in this kind 150 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:24.079 not heavy dog, no, there is nothing beyond physical and 151 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:26.800 something no, but a little bit skeptical. And I would 152 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:30.240 say that partor to the research stuff I started having, 153 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.120 like this was the masculine part, the research, and the 154 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:36.799 feminine part was all the internal things. And you know 155 00:08:36.919 --> 00:08:42.360 plenty of spiritual experiences, dreams that came to be a little. 156 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:43.639 Bit prophetic and stuff like that. 157 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:47.279 So yeah, it was equal experience, as I mentioned, was 158 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:51.200 somewhere between. I would say fifteen sixteen, maybe fourteen. It 159 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:53.960 started at fourteen years old, and it led to me 160 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:54.960 writing my book. 161 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.240 And you know it isn't just you know, a book 162 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:59.759 written by a seventeen year old. No, it's like. 163 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:03.080 Four one hundred and fifty pages in English and about 164 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:07.000 four hundred in Polish in my of course native language. 165 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:09.120 And here I see tire showing this. 166 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:12.000 Book too, and yes, it led me to all of this, 167 00:09:12.159 --> 00:09:16.960 and I continue this journey heavily, heavily and going into 168 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:20.399 more and more discoveries about not only the history as 169 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:23.639 I started with history, but also about the entire universe 170 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:27.799 and maybe even beyond, of course the physical boundaries of 171 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:28.600 the universe. 172 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:34.279 What I guess, I guess maybe to go forward easiest 173 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:36.519 way to go. Well, first off, well, obviously, I mean 174 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:39.960 I'm assuming you're from Poland, yes, yes, okay, all right, 175 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:41.879 all right, so yeah, because I was just getting an 176 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:43.320 idea of like, you know, you had to do these 177 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:47.000 studies for a certain thing. Yeah, I'm just wondering probably 178 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:48.879 a little different than what the United States would expect 179 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:52.679 you to do. I guess going forward, when you started 180 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:55.759 doing this, when you were studying this stuff for whatever reason, 181 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:59.320 was there like a moment where you thought, not like 182 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:01.159 so much of an hour, but I guess, or maybe 183 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:03.320 an a moment something that convinced you was like, wait, 184 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:06.279 there's something weird here, or something didn't seem to add up, 185 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:08.480 or things seemed like different than what you thought that 186 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:10.720 got you into writing this book. 187 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:14.279 I guess I think maybe it was not of this 188 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:17.279 kind as you described it, But I would say it 189 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:20.279 was a little bit to me coming from just being 190 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:23.399 a casual guy, you know, child at this moment, like 191 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:26.159 fourteen fifteen, I was still a child, I need to 192 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:26.600 say that. 193 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:28.519 So I had a really. 194 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.399 Open mind and when you know, I needed to learn 195 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:34.440 this this. I was passionate about learning and reading all 196 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:37.600 of this, but I was from, you know, just being 197 00:10:38.039 --> 00:10:41.440 It's a little bit childish thought, but I think we 198 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:45.080 need it in all areas of our life to just be, 199 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:50.360 you know, childlike, to have childlike curiosity and you know, think, oh, 200 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:54.679 maybe just thinking what if our ancient past didn't turn 201 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:57.399 out to be this way just as they described? How 202 00:10:57.440 --> 00:10:59.919 do we know that you know everything that is this 203 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.960 described in these textbooks, like oh, these were the first settlements, 204 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:04.519 this were the first civilizations? 205 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:04.960 Is true? 206 00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:07.480 What if it is not true? How do we know 207 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:09.519 about all of this? How do we know that this 208 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:12.600 version of the history is true. At the same time, 209 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:15.919 just a side note, I was also into philosophy of 210 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:19.279 science methodology, so I can later speak about all of 211 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:23.000 that because it's very very complex and verver misunderstood nowadays. 212 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:25.279 But I would say it was a childlike. 213 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:28.720 Curiosity and you know, thinking, oh, just asking you know, 214 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:32.080 simple questions, what if ancient humor was in the first 215 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:34.960 or what if these kind of settlements were in the 216 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:39.159 first or oh I learned that biology that genetically speaking, 217 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:42.840 anatomically modern humans existed for about two hundred thousand years 218 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:45.879 at that time, but nowadays even it is taken back 219 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:49.159 four hundred thousand years. So I was just asking questions, 220 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:54.200 why first civilizations started five thousand years ago and here 221 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:57.320 we've got two hundred or more thousand years of anatomically 222 00:11:57.399 --> 00:12:01.200 modern humans. So what was what was going on there 223 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:04.720 doing all of this like ninety five percent of the 224 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:07.679 timeline of our species. Is it lost or we were 225 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:10.600 just primitive? I was just asking these questions and trying 226 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:16.960 to search, and when there weren't any answers in these 227 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:20.879 sources or in the academia, I started searching. I've seen okay, 228 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:24.000 but most of our ancient answers stores whether famous Plato's 229 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.200 Atlantis or whether ancient Egyptians, ancient Sumerians, ancient Indians, all 230 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:32.960 of these verst civilizations, like I mentioned, thought that they 231 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:34.200 weren't the. 232 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:36.080 First, or that they were much older. 233 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:40.039 So maybe some of the answers to my questions of 234 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:42.840 what if it is all much older, what if it 235 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:46.320 wasn't like that, may lie in these ancient texts. And 236 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:49.799 that's how I went first into the rood of those 237 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:54.240 alternative texts, sources that are very often omitted because. 238 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:56.720 They are mythical or folk or. 239 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:00.080 And stuff and legendary, of course, and then from that 240 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:05.200 I also went into metaphysics, spirituality and so on. So 241 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:07.159 I wouldn't say it was like a ham moment that 242 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:10.480 something isn't right, but more just it started from a 243 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:11.919 curiosity what if it. 244 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:12.799 Isn't like that? 245 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:16.320 And how do you all who wrote these textbooks, and 246 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:20.039 how you all who are proponents of these theories know 247 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:22.679 that these are true? But what if not? What if 248 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:25.639 there was a previous civilization? What if there is something new? 249 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:28.440 That's why I actually started my book not from a 250 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:33.480 historical analysis, but from looking at a modern civilization and 251 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:36.840 how quickly would it decay if there was some kind 252 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:40.720 of a catastrophe, or if just humanity was wiped out 253 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:43.799 and everything was left abandoned. I started with that just 254 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:47.120 you know, with normal you know questions. 255 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:48.279 And trying to find the answers. 256 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.559 And when I tried to found the answers, I found 257 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:56.639 out that the entire story may be completely different than 258 00:13:56.679 --> 00:14:01.120 it's portrayed in the official main extreme narrative. 259 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:07.120 What was it that brought you to Atlantis? Is that Plato? 260 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:11.240 I think what brought me into Atlantis, and I think 261 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:13.919 it was an initial Plata was this question, you know, 262 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:17.600 what if there was something before these first civilizations? And 263 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:19.879 I would say that the first one, because prior to 264 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:24.000 that I was very heavily interested in DNA, genetics, biology. 265 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:27.559 The first thing was this, like at least two hundred 266 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:31.720 thousand years of anatomically modern humans. I've seen some theories that, okay, 267 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:33.879 maybe it's a little bit less, a little bit more, 268 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:38.759 but genetically, you know, almost the same species as as today. 269 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:42.200 Of course, everything is changing constantly, even our bodies are 270 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:46.279 changing for the generations from each you know, person, from 271 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:49.840 each father to each son. However, I thought that you know, 272 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:54.080 genetically almost the same. And also this thing that led 273 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:56.840 to the beginning of our species was also I would 274 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:00.919 say a miracle, because it was so improbable to occur that, 275 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:03.960 you know, how did it occur? So this was the 276 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:08.320 first and then I started searching the sources, not initially 277 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:10.879 Plato's Atlantis, but I was starting searching these sources. 278 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:11.919 The sources. 279 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:15.799 I thought to myself that, you know, ancient ancestories, whether 280 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:20.840 from Egypt, Summer or other civilizations, were much closer to 281 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:24.679 those prehistoric times that we are today, so maybe they 282 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:28.080 knew something that we nowadays do not know. And I 283 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.200 thought to myself, Okay, everything is decaying, so maybe plenty 284 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:35.000 of stuff were lost. And then apart from sources from 285 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:39.679 these first civilizations like the musical kings lists from Egypt 286 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:43.279 and the famous Sumerian wines, then I came into Plato 287 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:46.759 and his tale of Atlantis, that was at that time 288 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:51.120 completely i would say forgotten, because this trend of lost civilizations, 289 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:54.120 I wouldn't say was popular in Poland at that time. 290 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:57.240 And I was like, okay, there is something more and 291 00:15:57.320 --> 00:15:59.679 more going on, and I was searching and searching for 292 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:03.200 other their sources of lots civilizations just like Atlantis, like 293 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.799 famous mul and Mouria, or either some local folk about 294 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:10.679 that there was something before that, or if al Klo 295 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:15.720 concerning cataclysmic events like the Great Flood, and that's how 296 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:17.440 it initially started. 297 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:23.399 Does anybody have any questions for him? Before keep going? 298 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:25.639 Sure, I'll ask a quick question. 299 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:26.559 I caught you. 300 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:30.080 Alexander on Igo is really impressed because simply because this 301 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:33.200 is something that we play with, especially from Nick's influence 302 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:36.000 on the show, is that, like a lot of what 303 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:41.919 is described in these older ancient texts are actually experiences 304 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:45.960 of consciousness or maybe magical experiences. And you kind of 305 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:49.399 said that the same similar thing, at least like the 306 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:52.279 ideas that exactly we don't have to hold on to 307 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:57.480 that we was caring mythologies and we can just you know, 308 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:00.600 forge our own sort of like experiences with the same tax. 309 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:06.920 So would you say, sorry, yes, continue. 310 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:10.920 I just meant that, how would you describe what you believe? 311 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:14.920 What I believe? 312 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:18.440 I would say from the beginnings, I from all of 313 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.279 my personal experiences and my research that I mentioned, I 314 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:24.839 would say that there is something, of course beyond the 315 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:25.799 physical realm. 316 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:28.599 Maybe I don't know what is. 317 00:17:28.519 --> 00:17:31.480 Exactly that, but I deeply believe that there is something 318 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:36.599 beyond the physical realm. And I think that our consciousness 319 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:40.640 or consciousness is just like a modern trending name something 320 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:43.880 in us some people may call it self spirit, maybe 321 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:48.079 there is a whole science to describing these particular things 322 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:51.359 inside us. I think that there is something beyond physical 323 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:55.119 in us that may survive our death or maybe before 324 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:58.880 our life. I do not say that everything about our 325 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:01.279 incorredation and stuff like that is true, but I think 326 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:04.160 that there is something beyond us, and I think that 327 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:08.200 it manifests here in physical realm. And I also did 328 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:11.599 a little bit of research about how you know events, 329 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:15.400 how history can be actually aligned and can be a 330 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:21.240 manifestation of something above the physical realm, and how just 331 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:24.359 by calculating, for instance, the cycles of time and cycles 332 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:28.000 in history, we can show that, okay, there is something 333 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:34.119 more than just randomness as portrayed by biology and modern scientism, 334 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:37.279 that okay, we are just a materialism of course, that 335 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:40.039 we are just biological machines. So I do not believe 336 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:43.839 in that. I wouldn't say I'm of a particular faith. 337 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:46.160 I do not support a particular faith. 338 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:47.200 But I think that. 339 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:52.880 There are some golden nuggets and plenty of religions or 340 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:56.839 spiritual beliefs, and I think that there is something above us, 341 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:00.519 like some kind of source, universe, God, whatever you may 342 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:01.119 call it. 343 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:09.720 So Alexander, I I've been wondering because I've been looking 344 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:13.640 in the stuff like like Adams calendar and stuff like that, 345 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:22.400 what sites or artifacts are like, how do you say 346 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:27.079 the smoking like a smoking gun that mainstream or archaeology 347 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:29.279 refuses to acknowledge. 348 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:34.839 In your opinion, I would say that the biggest smoking 349 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:38.279 goun is gobekly tape that is commonly accepted to be 350 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:41.839 like from Averver prehistoric periods of at least twelve thousand 351 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:45.079 years ago. But why for me is a smoking gown 352 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:49.200 because it completely shattered the old not maybe partim but 353 00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:54.200 old opinions on history. Because when theories of Atlantes or 354 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:59.960 previous civilizations were like in the seventies, fifties or eighties 355 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.680 of the previous century, I found that the biggest skepticism 356 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:07.599 of them from mainstream archaeology and history was, you know, 357 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:10.880 these things cannot be let's say, ten thousand years old 358 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:14.960 or more, because we know from historical records that humans 359 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:19.759 were not capable of creats that creating such megalodic things 360 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:23.440 back then. But then at the end of nineties of 361 00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:27.119 the previous century, we found gobeically tape, and I think 362 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:30.359 it is and it was the smokey is gun because 363 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:33.759 you know, now it's all shattered. You cannot just deny 364 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:38.680 any theory of let's say, pre Ice Age or Ice 365 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.079 Age civilizations because. 366 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:43.880 You know, you just do not have any evidence. Okay. 367 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:48.240 Also, lack of evidence isn't the evidence for absence. That's 368 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:51.440 another thing. But you know, this was a common argument 369 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:54.160 back then. But now this argument is lost. We see 370 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:57.960 that there were builders at Gobeicle Tape, so people twelve 371 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:00.599 thousand years ago or even more, because they're or more 372 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:04.640 things to the Gobecle Tape side still buried beneath and 373 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:08.640 maybe older than what we have than the days that 374 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:12.359 we have now. And I think that now you know, 375 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:14.920 if you just say, oh, this may be from ten 376 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:17.839 thousand years ago or twelve thousand years ago, and maybe 377 00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:21.400 we're still speculating, you cannot say, oh, it cannot be 378 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:24.240 because humans were not capable of that, because we have 379 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:27.039 an example of Gobechle Tape that they were. But I 380 00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:30.279 would say another, but I think this is the biggest 381 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:33.440 smoking gun. I would say that another clue to this question, 382 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:36.440 and to go in this route of Gobechle Tape, and 383 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:40.119 the biggest thing would be the megalodic architecture of the 384 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:43.519 biggest polygonal huge blocks that can be found in plenty 385 00:21:43.519 --> 00:21:46.680 of the places on the entire earth, like the famous 386 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:49.920 sax Si Woman in Peru and many sites. Because it's 387 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:53.160 not only in Cusco sax Si Woman in per that 388 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:56.640 we find these polygonal walls, but also similar walls can 389 00:21:56.680 --> 00:21:59.880 be found on Easter Island, which is of course nearby Peru, 390 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.200 so maybe someone traveled there. But then you have Europe 391 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:06.480 in Italy, in Greece, and then you have in Egypt. 392 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:10.160 For instance, the Ausulian is very similar, maybe not with 393 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:13.720 that many angles like the polygonal walls of Cusco. However, 394 00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:21.200 for instance, the fundamental blocks of the Third Permit of Giza, 395 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:24.279 the mencar One is also very very similar, and you 396 00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:27.640 can point to at least a few similarities. 397 00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:30.759 Because you may be skeptic that, okay, huge blocks. 398 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:33.200 People were using them because you know, they were the 399 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:36.279 best for building biggest buildings, and maybe you know they 400 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:37.359 cut them similarly. 401 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:38.759