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let's dive in to today's episode. I like to welcome

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back to the show, returning Champion, returning Ist, Returning is Champion,

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a lot of I'm honored, man, brother.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, man, I'm so good, I'm so good, dude.

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Speaker 1: It's been it's been a minute since you've been. I

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think last time you were here was right before we

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did the Ascension conference together. Dude.

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Speaker 2: That was so fun and it was.

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Speaker 1: It seems like it was fifteen years ago, but it

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was literally this year.

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Speaker 2: Time is different, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Time is different.

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Speaker 2: It's a very different thing.

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Speaker 1: And is it because we're old? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What if there's no weird universal magic thing. We're just

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going through midlife crisis constantly, and I'm like, everything's different now.

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It's like, yeah, you're forty eight, that's not a weird thing.

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And it's not you know, I think about there's a

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there's this thing about the Mandela effect. Yes, of course,

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you know. Yeah, And it's so funny because there's a

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lot of people that believe. And I'm not saying it's

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not true. I'm really not, but it's like, you know,

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did you know it used to be Berenstein Bears. Now

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it's Bernstein or Barnstein Bear.

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Speaker 1: It's never Berenstein Berenstein.

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Speaker 2: And then and then there was this one. It was like,

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did you know Nelson Mandela, Like people think he died

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in the eighties. They remember him dying in the eighties.

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I don't, And I'm like, no, he was freed from

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prison and they had came up and it was like

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a funeral procession and it was like the same thing.

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And then someone went, did you know Ed McMahon never

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worked for a publisher's clearing house?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's mine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he worked for a competitor.

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Speaker 1: Of it, but they never but he never but the

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competitor never went door to door. No.

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Speaker 2: I remember like the videos of him being like I'm

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giving them a check.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't the company publishers clearing I just wonder if we're

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just getting bad memories because it's forty years ago and

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we just can't say I don't remember, so we're just

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wou'd rather be like, so the universe changed everything, and

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in that change we still remember the old We didn't

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switch us completely.

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Speaker 1: Well, but going down the big.

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Speaker 2: Switches the Berenstein bears, that's the big universe is like, Okay,

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let's grew from mean.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's let's let's groom. Let's like, is the food

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of loom logo have a cornicope?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now that I've heard, this is where we don't

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know anything now because I've heard that's the thing I've

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heard is that's a siop, that that they did change

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it and to make us think that. So we all

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just think we're going nuts now. I don't know what's

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true at all. But you know what the greatest sentence

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we could say from underwear, Yeah, fruit of vollons, like

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we're in no cornucopia. We're gonna screw everyone over, right,

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and then you'll just be g how about you. There's

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a teenage girl. I remember, she wouldn't be I remember

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that would be a yeah, she's got to be like fifty. Okay,

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so it's a fifty year old if she still had

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the teenage girl voice, like she just hadn't graduated from that.

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Speaker 1: Everybody, this is just a taste of what you're in

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for every time you and if.

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Speaker 2: You need to start over, wee can three too. Returning champions,

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Turney Champion. I'll cease this here. I still could be

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I'm just saying I just love that it's so hard

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for us to say I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, the thing is this, there's when we went and

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I didn't like, I had no idea what we were

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going to talk about in this conversation. I have no notes,

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know nothing, because that's just the way you and I work.

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Speaker 2: It'll be better because of that.

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Speaker 1: Of course, and that's how you work. For sure. You

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just show up and just like whatever comes comes. But

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the whole thing with the Mendela effect and then we'll

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move on, is that there's so many different things that

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I remember differently, and that I'm not the only one

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that remembers differently. Like in Field of Dreams movie quotes,

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Speaker 2: Uh, Luke, I'm your father.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not Luke, I'm your father.

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Speaker 2: But in Tommy Boy, Chris Barley says, Luke your father, right,

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Speaker 1: All right, So is it is it? Uh? If you

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build it, they will come. Uh.

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Speaker 2: I remember back then I remember I do remember vividly

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back then people quoting it wrong. I remember people saying,

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if you build it, he will come as a hilarious

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sexual reference.

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Speaker 1: And we're talking about Field of Dreams, by the way, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I remember in like junior high people

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saying that if you build it and then you I

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quite how they said it. So there's a part of

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me that's like, yeah, they started saying it wrong then.

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Speaker 1: Had I've had multiple conversations with quantum physicistms.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying no. I'm not saying no as a

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major quantum physics person just through experience, obviously, I think

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that it's just it, and I'm so I'm not debunking

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it as much as just also saying sometimes, also, do

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we just remember stuff differently or.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a perfect example. I've always you know,

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I remember Jiffy Peanut butter mm okay, you mean Jeff

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right now, it's called That's exactly where I was going

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with it. I remember there's Skippy and then there's Jeff.

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But I in my memory remember Jiffy and there very

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possibly could have been that I connect the Jiff and

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Skippy together.

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Speaker 2: That's no question, more sense than the universe has put

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them those two things together.

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Speaker 1: Can I be honest with you, Yeah, it's much cooler

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if the universe did it.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the truth. I mean, seriously, can you name

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the woman that did the Skippy commercials a net Funicello?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the eighties. I'm sure now we'll watch some

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thing about that.

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Speaker 1: It is Betty White. It'll it'll be a.

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Speaker 2: Net Funicelli now and they go, oh, you guys argue

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about that.

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Speaker 1: We'll just thinking that the Mandela effect was put out

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by the government to screw with all of us.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't say I think that because I love

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the sentence. I don't know. It's the most freeing sentence

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in the world.

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Speaker 1: It is, you know what.

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Speaker 2: There are people that don't want to say it, and

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Speaker 1: Nowadays people are more concerned about just being showing weakness

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in any way, shape or form. But in my opinion,

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it's not showing weakness, it's showing strength to just go.

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I don't know. As a filmmaker, when I'm on a set,

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I get asked a thousand different questions by a thousand

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different people a day, and sometimes I just go, I

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don't know, Yeah, what do you got? Yeah? Because you

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don't have all the answers for things, and only a

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strong it's only the people who are not comfortable within

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their own skin or not or just a little insecure

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that will have to have to come up with an

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answer for everything, even though they might not know it.

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I don't know, let's figure.

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that's what I'm so excited to talk about today as

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we start to go so who's the one that needs

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to look like they know? Like, who's the one that

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can't do it wrong? And That's why I'm more and

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more as I do this work, I believe almost all

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of what are I is is a solution to trauma.

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eye that we create you know. Whatever the story is

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and we attach to it, it is not the truth.

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the essence of what we are. And the more we

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connect to the now, you notice the now doesn't like

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have like you know, hard facts like this is what's

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against this? In fact, the now is this incredible space

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that holds space for different perspectives. Right, So like in

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the now, a couple could have an argument, and all

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helps them release it, right, so it gets freed the

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that created this character that needs to know, because most

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people have wounds from parents that had bigger egos from

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a time when we didn't do this work. Even more

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then I'll be a failure. To my dad. If I

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don't know, then I won't be loved. If I don't know,

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then my mom will abandon me. If you know, and

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then and people a long time ago were taught you

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the New world, I would offer where we're headed. The

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more you know, factually, the less room there is for

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Speaker 1: And again, through the work I've been doing for years

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there has to be a Yes, there's a knowing that

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comes in when you feel something. It's so much more

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powerful than just the intellectual because to learn the intellectual

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aspect of things is I'm gonna say it's easy, but

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it's limiting. It's a very limiting thing. We'll be right

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it's hard to quantify it, it's very difficult to quantify.

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just knew, I just know who that person is, or

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that the more you go down into the mystery schools

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of ancient times, they weren't playing with just words on

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the intellectual in the matter, in the world of the

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matter to be able to do this. I mean, in

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the last one hundred and fifty years, we've gone farther

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than the last six thousand, eight.

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Speaker 2: Ten thousand yearsh It's exponential, Which is why I kind

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of feel like the next year and the year after

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are like you just said, the last one fifty years

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was farther than the six thousand before. Imagine if the

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next two years is just so much more crazy and

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cutting edge that it beats the last one hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 1: Years, Well, that's going to happen that these next ten.

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Speaker 2: Time feels so different.

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Speaker 1: You know, let's dive into this, because you're absolutely right.

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Time has felt I think basically from I think twenty

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twelve was kind of the beginning of it, Yeah, which

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was the shift from the Mayan calendar. Twenty sixteen had

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a big jump. Obviously there was a lot of political

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issues and things that went along in that. But then

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twenty twenty showed up. Yes, and man, everything just just

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went sh When and I say everything gets ramped up,

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it's because every year in the twenties, every year has

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been more intense than the year prior. No, I don't

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think anyone can argue this. Every year there's some other

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new thing there. Either it's the you know what happened

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in twenty twenty, Then there's wars, Then there's technology, then

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there's AI. This year has been a hell of a run,

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you know, natural disasters and assassination attempts and all that.

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I mean, it's just been crazy. Something similar to this

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happened back in the sixties. If you remember the sixties,

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sixty eight, sixty nine, those years were I mean, they

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were you know, they JFK. Martin, Luther King, Watergate. It

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was another the war, there was another time of just

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this insane stuff. And there was a big spiritual spiritual

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shift in the sixties. I was the beginning of the

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Flower Child and the New Age movement and the spirit

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spirituality movement and all that kind of stuff, and then

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the seventies and the eighties and the nineties all changed.

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Nineties obviously peak peak humanity. And you know where that's from.

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You've heard that term, my peak humanity is in the nineties.

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That's a term that a lot of people have been

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throwing around late. I heard, yeah that like we peaked

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that night in the nineties. That was it like that,

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it was perfect. It was before the Internet, before social media.

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It was like, that was peak time from humanity. I found,

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you know, I just heard it. Where it came from.

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It's from the Matrix.

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Speaker 2: Well and which came out in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: Ninety nine, and they said the Matrix the AI picked

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that time period, which happened to be when they were

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making it. But and they called it peak humanity, and

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that's where that from. I thought that was really interesting

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as I was just watching the make Sures again because.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as you should. Ever. Yeah, every few month, of course,

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I mean it definitely is. It's it almost feels like

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it was made to help us through this time. It's

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becoming irrelevant, Yeah, because it's interesting because when you mentioned

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twenty twelve, you know that that is a time where

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I do remember vividly having almost a new timeline or

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in other words, before twenty twelve, maybe even twenty eleven.

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Around there, things were more linear. You didn't have this

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kind of like different dimension where you'd make a choice

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that's not like you and then that puts you almost

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on a different path. In other words, the you that

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was around before would never make the choice that you

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made around twenty ten, twenty eleven, twenty twelve, twenty thirteen.

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And the amount of people I know that was like,

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that's when I left that old thing. That's when I

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quit stand up comedy and had my awakening too, was

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in twenty eleven, right, and you were prepping, Yeah, I was,

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And that was also the beginning of the identification and

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the split of a false Kyle. And I believe that

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I believe the more I do this work, and I

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think that Daryl would agree with this too, I believe

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a lot that the universe mirrors you, like like literally

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like when I you know, one time I heard Bashar

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talking to someone and then I've been really seeing it

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this way. There was a guy asking Bashar about conspiracy

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theories and Bashar said, nothing we will do. We know

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one thing that will not come through this is the

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support of fearful theories. And the guy said, well, what

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about like the illuminati bankers and all this stuff? And

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he goes, He goes, there will be some people that

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believe in that, that are worried about that, that will

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see that happen, and there are other people that don't

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believe in it or will go to a higher frequency

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and I'll never see it. Yep, about that, And so

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I thought to myself, So that means that, like, if

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this guy stays worried, there's a world where like you

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and I are dead already, and in our world he's

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fine because it's mirroring me. Now, this might sound like

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a crazy thing, but I do want to live as

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if that's the case. In other words, what would the

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truest highest me do? And so I feel like there

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was this weird thing from my perspective where when I

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leapt out of my old life and started going inward

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and meditating and everything like that. It also felt like

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the world started doing it more and more and more,

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and the deeper I did it for me felt like

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the world's doing it. I don't mean that narcissistically, like

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it mirrors me. But you'll notice how many things that

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as you see in you come to light. Then the

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world also exposed, like some under You'll be like, oh,

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there's a pattern of shame and it, oh, like there

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was a bunch of child trafficking under this thing. Like

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everything that's dark is coming to light. And the reason

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that we have a hard time is not that this

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stuff is suddenly here. It's that we're seeing it and

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our lenses is getting bigger because we want to see it.

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And we've made decisions to say, I want the truth

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of what I am more than I want a result

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that I can control, more than I want people to

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like me. That's what my big announcement was on twenty

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twenty to myself, I said in a meditation, merge me

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with my soul, no matter what the cost. And I've

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had some costs, and I'm finding my soul. I'm finding

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the costs are only to the ego itself and you know,

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so people are like, I want I want to merge

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with my soul, but keep my business the same way.

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Speaker 1: You know. So this opens up another area of discussion,

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which is and this is something I think we as

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a society have a problem with comfort.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the patterns do.

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Speaker 1: Yet we need to be comfortable all the time and

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this leans into every aspect. So we have sucked out

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of our day to day life any struggle. Now, with

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that said, people are like, what are you saying, Alex,

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I struggle every day. No, no, no, I'm just saying, as

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a general statement, we want things to be easy, we

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want things to be convenient, we want things to be comfortable,

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and we've built all that in. Our ancestors didn't have.

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Speaker 2: Three meals a day. We just didn't.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have. Many of them did not have. And

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there are people around the world obviously who are still

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struggling with that. But the Western world, the the you know,

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the the not the civilized world, but the whatever that

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the world you and I live in, essentially whatever that

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word is, we have sucked out all the struggle. We

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have sucked out all the adversity. Not saying emotional or

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personal things like that. But generally speaking, you know, if

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you're listening to this, you probably have three meals a

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day probably, you know, again not for everybody, but you

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have a roof over your head, you have a car,

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you have generally speaking, generally speaking, and there's comfort there

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where adversity is what makes us who we are. So

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on a spiritual journey. If you study the Masters, there's

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not one of them that just skipped to enlightenment. Everyvery

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single one of them had major adversities, age, or challenges

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to overcome to obtain the realization, the self realization that

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they were in search for. Same thing for us now

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in the physical world and how we're you know, we'll

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talk a little bit about what you've been doing in

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the physical world as well a little bit later. But

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these challenges I'm starting to realize that, you know, now

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people are what are they doing? Ice baths, you know,

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sauna's heat. They're trying to create and the younger generations

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are going out and doing like you know, iron Man

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and marathons because they want it physically, challenge themselves to

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do something because they they have a lot of comfort

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in their life right that they don't have to and

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and the body is not built for that. This body,

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this brain, this this experience is built for adversity. And

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the only time we ever grow is when we have

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something to go against. Yeah, you know, to to a

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challenge that we can overcome. Does any of that make

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sense to you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, and I would offer there's two kinds of comfort,

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there's and there's two kinds of pain. I've discovered. Their

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one pain where you face the thing directly and rip

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the band aid off and then go to a new frequency.

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So a good example of that, in a general sense

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would be something like skydiving. Right if someone actually they're scared,

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they're scared, they're scared, they do it, they go through

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the big fear, but now they're on the other side

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and they're no longer a person that would never skydive.

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Same with just leaping or moving into your soul or

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following your heart. Right, So there's one direct pain that

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you can face and then major release happens of the

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part of you that has to die that never did that.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So when you're like, if you're someone who has if

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you're someone who makes this is just to give an example,

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let's say you're someone who's always made twenty thousand a year.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a good chance that that's because you

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have patterns in your body that say, like my family

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told me money doesn't grow on trees, I'm not enough whatever.

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So the second you finally move towards something that's not

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like the family or your story, life has to purge

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that part of you, right, life goes. The part of

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you that was the family unit dies because you've just

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killed it by moving to that higher frequency. Did that

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make sense so far?

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Speaker 1: It does? But the thing that's interesting about that is

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every aspect of our life there is this this cyclical

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version of us, and it's there's obviously the big the

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big cycle, which is born, live, death, that's the big one. Yeah,

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But in the middle of our lives we have little

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births and deaths almost every days, every day.

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Speaker 2: I think we would have as much in the times

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before twenty twelve. By the way, like there, you know

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what I mean. You are just aware of yourself as

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a small linear timeline, and now the only way to

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move forward is through the death of the false self,

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which is now becoming times moving so fast, seemingly because

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we don't have the timeline that does things predictively. Like you,

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if I say to you, like, what are you going

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to be doing in April of next year?

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 2: You have no idea? But if I said that to

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a guy in nineteen eighty five, he would answer it.

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And so the reason that is is because the one

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that thinks in terms of time also is dying. There's

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an us that holds on to regret, fear, guilt, and shame.

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That stuff that it's holding onto is from the past. Yes,

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by holding onto it, you're using time, and often their

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escape is the future. But we are healing so much

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because we have to. In other words, we're moving to

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a time where you're either going to addiction yourself into

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the ground or you're going to face your regret, your guilt,

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your shame, your fears, because life is saying, hey, that

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you that lived comfortably isn't you? Though? And just because

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you were able to pull it off in nineteen ninety

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seven doesn't mean you can now right, And so what

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the world doesn't allow you to know? Well, that's and

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that's why the other pain is the I'm comfortable, but

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deep down I hate myself for doing all this comfortable stuff,

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meaning like you ever wake up and go why did

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I watch that? You know, like why did I?

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Speaker 1: You know, why did I?

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Speaker 2: Why did I eat that last night? Why did I?

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That's the other pist. So, yes, there's a comfort, but

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the light is too bright for that comfort to work.

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Anyone that's watching this right has an awareness that's too

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high for this comfort to truly be comfortable. In other words,

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what was comfortable before.

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00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: It was comfortable before is not comfortable now. Right things

474
00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:37,119
so perfect example is you know I have a lovely

475
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:43,160
nostalgic remembrance of the eighties and the nineties. Yes, I'm

476
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:43,960
sure you as well.

477
00:23:44,079 --> 00:23:46,599
Speaker 2: Yes I do, not as much as you yeah, yeah, yeah, yes,

478
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,039
I have a much hart yes yet I mean I

479
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,200
love the eighties and nine My most cutting edge band

480
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,200
is Hall and Oates right like like currently like like

481
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,920
I like eighties and nineties is so yeah.

482
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: So I remember I remember working at a video store. Obviously,

483
00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:04,000
It's one of my favorite times of my life. It

484
00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:07,799
was very pleasurable, all that stuff and playing video games NonStop.

485
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,880
So you know, when we when I wanted to, like

486
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,319
you know, I could afford to buy like a street Fighter. Yeah,

487
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,839
our case, there's you know, there are a few hundred

488
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,000
bucks now, yes, and I got one and I played it, yeah,

489
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:24,200
and I'm like, it doesn't do it for me anymore.

490
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,559
Speaker 2: So if technology has moved from you know, Super Mario

491
00:24:27,559 --> 00:24:29,920
Brothers and Street Fighter too, I can't tell if this

492
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,680
is a real YouTube video or not. That's what that's

493
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,319
what technology has changed to.

494
00:24:35,759 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: Right.

495
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: Also, our consciousness and our awareness has changed in the

496
00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:43,079
exact same way. You are more and more aware every

497
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,359
day there's something in your heart that's calling you that

498
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,880
could not reach you before because you were just the

499
00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:51,759
linear thing that was that comfort. So even though we

500
00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:55,559
can grab flipping through Instagram and TikTok, even though we

501
00:24:55,599 --> 00:24:59,960
can be comfortable, we have too much awareness that it's not.

502
00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:03,240
And so you're getting a lot of people working on

503
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:05,119
getting out of it. You'll see people announce I'm no

504
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,000
longer on social media. I'll go about a week and

505
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,240
then be back. But but you're facing the thing, and

506
00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:12,359
you're going through that first pain of going I'm going

507
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,400
to release the one that needs the comfort to stay

508
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,559
the past story of what I thought I was right.

509
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,160
So the two pains are really a fascinating thing. The

510
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,240
one is I'm going to face the thing. And this

511
00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:25,960
is why I realized there's two comforts too. There's the

512
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,680
comfort of I'm in the third density, surrounding of so

513
00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:32,640
many different things. I have all my you know, addictions,

514
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,079
and so I'm caught in you know. One way we

515
00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:40,559
also can distract ourselves with comfort is seeking truth externally,

516
00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:42,920
meaning like I want to know who the government is.

517
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,039
I want to know who got Charlie Kirk. I want

518
00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:48,200
to know this that is not not important, but it's

519
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,359
almost like what zion is in the matrix and that

520
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,720
you are still saying the highest frequency is to find

521
00:25:54,759 --> 00:25:57,640
the truth externally. We can need to do that in

522
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,200
one way, but you're missing out on the truth of

523
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,720
what you are to me. When we're getting caught in

524
00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:06,400
what's the conspiracy? Even though there's truth in it, I'm

525
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,359
not saying that doesn't need to be seen or brought

526
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,720
to light one way or another. It's the equivalent of

527
00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:14,440
Neo never learning kung fu and just staring back in

528
00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:18,200
the matrix at how manipulative it is and being triggered

529
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,079
by it versus learning to fly right, and so were

530
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:27,160
missing we're missing out on our powers by grabbing the

531
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:31,359
egos comfort, but it's killing our soul's comfort. And I

532
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,000
find that my soul's comfort is the opposite. In other words,

533
00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:38,720
you know that I fasted eleven days, right, I literally

534
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:42,759
had no food for eleven days. Everything changed. By day eight,

535
00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:45,160
I had lost twenty pounds. My vision came back. When

536
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,480
I was done with the fast, I had been one hundred.

537
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,759
My testosterone was six hundred and seventeen. When I was done,

538
00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:56,960
it was onenty twenty eight. I was in a comfort

539
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,359
of literally doing nothing. I literally did nothing. That's all

540
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,000
I have. All you have to It's weird how much

541
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:04,839
all you have to do is nothing, whether it's meditate,

542
00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:08,480
just fast. It's like you can, you know, put your

543
00:27:08,599 --> 00:27:10,799
diet together and go to the gym every day, or

544
00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:14,119
literally do nothing, and eleven days later, everything changes so

545
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,799
much more than if you had gone to a CrossFit

546
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,319
daily and done all this stuff. And so there's a

547
00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:21,559
way that ego is trying to get to ultimate health.

548
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:25,039
But the way that my fast was so fascinating and

549
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:28,799
worked so well was because I said, the reason, the

550
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:30,480
intention that I had behind it was I want to

551
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:33,400
get closer to God. It wasn't to get fitter. It

552
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,960
wasn't to get healthier, and then all these blind siding

553
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,920
results happened that I wasn't planning on. So I was

554
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,079
comfortable in just that I wasn't participating in the ego

555
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,559
at construct of the ego's comfort, and I had moments

556
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,559
where my ego would kick in and go, I really

557
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:53,319
want food, but I wasn't hungry. It was like an

558
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:56,759
emotion wanted and it was like my childhood wanted food

559
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,200
and I felt safer with my family and a restaurant

560
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,160
wanted food. And then I would just sit and listen

561
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,200
and listen and he died. I mean I watched him

562
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:07,960
come up, come up, and then I cried him out

563
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,720
like like a child, like it just came out. And

564
00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:13,880
I just felt this power because now my intention to

565
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,759
connect to God was more powerful than the cheeseburger. Then

566
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,680
then the path than the cheeseburger.

567
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: But what the cheese.

568
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,599
Speaker 2: We don't want the cheeseburger as much as what it means,

569
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,680
especially if we're nostalgic, like in the eighties, McDonald's was

570
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:30,160
less scary than it was now, and the you know,

571
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,319
and you just went there and you weren't checking out

572
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:35,200
seed oils and stuff, and you were you were really

573
00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:39,759
like just out of my stuff. Yeah, exactly. And so

574
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,440
now when I my number one intention really is to

575
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,880
connect with God, and I find myself having this other comfort,

576
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,680
which is just like I'm fine as is I'm all,

577
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:53,519
I am just love and we So there's the comfort

578
00:28:53,519 --> 00:28:56,960
of the control, which is the control is ego, like

579
00:28:57,079 --> 00:28:59,640
the ego is not you. And and there's a lot

580
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,480
of people hear my content, well, they fight for the ego.

581
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:05,000
The ego still matters, and we wouldn't have things built.

582
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,400
But it's like you can give some power to the ego,

583
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,839
but give way more power to this space. Because I

584
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,160
wake up, I listen to silence for quite a while,

585
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,000
and this space will start to bring up the egoic

586
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:21,480
pattern and if I don't feed it, it dies. And

587
00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:24,079
so I can feed it and have a temporary comfort

588
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,920
that later i'm full of regret that I have or

589
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,759
I cannot feed it, and it permanently falls out. I'm

590
00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:32,480
not saying there's not more, but all of a sudden,

591
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,240
I find there's just a comfort in my existence versus

592
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,359
my You know that I'm that I'm watching a movie.

593
00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:42,759
Speaker 1: And right let me ask you in regards to fasting,

594
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,559
and now I want to try to I want to

595
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:47,519
try to get into this a little bit more in

596
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:52,359
the spiritual side of things. Sure you know fasting has

597
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:56,079
gone through I mean it's in the Vedic world, in

598
00:29:56,119 --> 00:29:58,359
the Hindu world. I mean, fasting is it's part of

599
00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:02,400
you know, all the masters fasted will be right back

600
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:08,480
after a word from our sponsor, and now back to

601
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:12,960
the show, whether because they had to, because they had

602
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,079
no food at the time, or they actually did it

603
00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:18,799
on purpose. Buddha was a very big, obviously example of

604
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:22,599
that of the fasting to my understanding, and this is

605
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:25,079
the way I'm seeing fasting on a spiritual standpoint. When

606
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:29,160
you fast, the amount what you put in your body

607
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,119
is very important, the kind of foods you put in mind,

608
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,400
because there's a frequency to the kind of food you

609
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,039
put in your body, regardless of what that is. And

610
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:38,839
I'm not trying to get into meat or not meat

611
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,880
or any of that that's irrelevant to do that.

612
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:43,319
Speaker 2: It's not saying be vegan. I'm not saying.

613
00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:45,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care, I don't care. You want to

614
00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:47,039
you know, you know, whatever you want to do, you

615
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:49,240
want to do, but there is a frequency attached to food.

616
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,799
When you remove food completely, it quiets the body completely

617
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:58,000
because now it's not working because normally, when you eat

618
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,279
three meals a day, your digestive system is working NonStop

619
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,519
basically all the time. You barely have a moment to

620
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,400
rest only when you sleep, and even then it's still

621
00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:10,279
and if you have a late dinner or something like that,

622
00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:13,039
it's going for hours. So you never give it a time.

623
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:15,240
So I've done fastest before, I've done juice fastest. I've

624
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,240
done a month of juice fasting before, and I've done

625
00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:20,400
weeks and things like that back in the you know,

626
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:24,279
a decade ago, and I remember what my body felt like.

627
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,359
So as as you start to when you do the fast,

628
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:31,880
I feel that the frequency in your body changes. Yes,

629
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,039
the frequency in your body changes, yes, because you are

630
00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:37,960
trauma leaves literal trauma. There's a lot of things that

631
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:41,640
because of the quiet. It's again going back to the quiet. Yeah,

632
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,200
when you can get when you quiet this system down.

633
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,799
And it's not, by the way, it's not that the

634
00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:49,839
body stops working. If anything, it kicks in a thousand

635
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:50,960
other things which.

636
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:53,119
Speaker 2: It kicks in key tones. It kicks in your immune system,

637
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:53,920
it starts to bring.

638
00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: It's like it stones all this amazing. Stay, it's amazing.

639
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,279
Speaker 2: What's literally like God saying, just stop interrupting me. It

640
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,599
just stop. Like we've built your skalls.

641
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: We've built the perfect machine. Yeah, stop messing with it. Yeah,

642
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,480
let us do what we're doing. So my point is

643
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:17,720
that the frequency starts to open up to change when

644
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,720
you start to change. And then let's say you're fasting

645
00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:23,000
and meditating, yeah, actually doing a spiritual practice of some sort,

646
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,480
your frequency starts to rise, yes, to a certain extent,

647
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,680
when you start to rise. And I want to hear

648
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,599
what you think about this. When your frequency rises, just

649
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,599
like a radio station, you're going to start picking up

650
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:35,680
things that, yes, it was not on that band before

651
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,279
you're on ninety six point five, before you are in

652
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:39,039
ninety three point t.

653
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: Yes, and you can't get anything higher than that high,

654
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:45,559
Like it's the high. So really take in this idea

655
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,119
that I was saying earlier about that the you that

656
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,720
you think you are, that that what you call you like,

657
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:53,440
whatever you think you need in a relationship, whatever your

658
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,440
your goals are dreams. I want to offer this idea

659
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,119
that that idea that you think of as you is

660
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,799
the flip side of a coin that the other side

661
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:04,759
of a coin is a dark trauma. Like for instance,

662
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,400
I'm a huge achiever, could be so what someone says,

663
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,400
because I can't be a failure when I was five obviously,

664
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,640
and if you if a person felt they failed when

665
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,480
they were five, they got spanked, whatever, they're literally their

666
00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:21,640
body goes into trauma and goes we have to create

667
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,880
a character, right that that can come up with a solution.

668
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:28,079
So imagine that when you have like a parent walkout

669
00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:30,799
and you're just traumatized from it. You get yelled at,

670
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,000
someone tells you, you know, people tell you there's hell

671
00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:36,680
when you die. These kind of things, right, make a

672
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,000
person feel trauma and the kid, as a child can't

673
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:43,480
process that trauma. So the kid. What the kid does

674
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,000
is creates a character that we then call I that

675
00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:50,240
whatever it is that was scary, So I'm going to

676
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,839
become a people pleaser. Oh you know, I was spanked,

677
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,200
So I'm going to feel the room and become what

678
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,359
we call it as an mpath. And then people that

679
00:33:57,359 --> 00:34:00,200
are mpaths, they think that they're there for others, but

680
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,680
you're actually in service to protection of self by being

681
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,559
there for others as a preventative from getting spanked again

682
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:08,719
when you were five. The reason I bring this up

683
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,360
is because that five year old is what's running most

684
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,320
of our lives. It's running your relationships, your business, and

685
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,719
we call that I. And so the most that five

686
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,800
year old from nineteen eighty two can do is nothing

687
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,519
compared to what the actual you that's here can do.

688
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,679
And so most of us create an identity out of

689
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,679
don't hurt me again, because and when I find when

690
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,719
I meditate long enough or when I fast, I'm creating

691
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,840
a field that's so big that the universe goes. Now,

692
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,800
I can show you that wound that I couldn't show

693
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,719
you when you were five. You're too busy and you're

694
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,239
too well, you were too busy, and your solution actually

695
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,280
was successful. Like there were two times my dad spanked

696
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,559
me and it was really bad, and that changed me

697
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,760
and my dad's number one love language I felt was

698
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,639
watching stand up comedy, so I became a comic. I

699
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:08,840
thought that was my childhood dream. But I actually wonder

700
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,440
if that was me protecting myself from getting hurt or

701
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,480
having dad at least pay attention to me. Now think

702
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:18,000
about that, I'm thinking it's my dream and then I

703
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:22,199
had a successful twenties and early thirties as a comic,

704
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,960
so it served a purpose. But it served a purpose

705
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,440
to a point, and eventually there's a part of me

706
00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:30,199
that goes, I want to know more of the truth

707
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,360
of what I am. So I had to leave that thing.

708
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,400
If I kept the comedy, I'm also keeping the trauma

709
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,679
that made me the comic.

710
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: Right. But Kyle, the thing is for you to leave.

711
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:43,599
I mean, I want people to really understand what you did.

712
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,519
You had an extremely successful stand up career. You were

713
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:51,360
on your way to being you know, you know, a

714
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,239
household name, you know in many ways, you were in movies,

715
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:57,280
you had you know, number one comedy specials. Yeah, you

716
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,880
were on your road. And both you and I have

717
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,960
a lot of friends who are comic, so I understand

718
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,960
the mind of a comic, which is terrifying. Yeah it is.

719
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 2: Well, it's been healed.

720
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: You're good.

721
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,599
Speaker 2: You're good now, it's healing a lot.

722
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:12,599
Speaker 1: But you walked away and everybody in the business thought

723
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:15,599
you were insane. Everybody thought you were going to just

724
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:16,480
like what is he doing?

725
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was also going through a thing where I

726
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:22,199
had at one point the next phase of my life

727
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,079
was wanting everyone in the world to know about Tony Robbinson,

728
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:28,320
wanting everyone to know about their achievement and possibility. And

729
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,559
I went, you know, from an anxiety that was so

730
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:34,079
horrible to number one special. So the highest I knew

731
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:36,599
was I want to tell other people they can do this.

732
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:41,000
The downside to this was I was suddenly this positive

733
00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:44,039
guy doing spiritual stuff in a field of people who

734
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:46,920
are cynical for a living yes, and so I didn't

735
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,719
know that people would be like, that's are you a

736
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,239
cult leader? Are you a scientologist?

737
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: What is this?

738
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,559
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden my friends that were my

739
00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:59,800
peers were mad at me or you know, thinking I'm crazy.

740
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,079
Speaker 1: And know the feeling.

741
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:04,559
Speaker 2: And it was and I realized later that was the

742
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:08,760
next phase of my spiritual journey. In order to get

743
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,079
to the next phase, I had to release control of

744
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:12,039
what people thought of me.

745
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: Yep.

746
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: And that was really huge because I noticed the one

747
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,159
who tries to control what people think of me is

748
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,719
me at five. It's me trying to manage my mom's

749
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,800
opinion of me, or to look good to my dad,

750
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,920
or because in my pattern, if I'm not successful as

751
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,119
a stand up comic, I'm going to get bullied in

752
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:31,360
high school or beaten by my dad, you know. Like,

753
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:34,960
so my patterns are the ones that are keeping the

754
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:38,440
career alive, and instead of me keeping the career alive,

755
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:40,559
so I don't have to face these things, I'd rather

756
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:42,880
just heal the wounds and hear what God wants for

757
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,199
me from a higher frequency. So I noticed at one

758
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,400
point that I was feeling not seen by those comics

759
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,840
and also at the same time feeling there's something higher

760
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,039
that's bigger for me. And I don't mean it like

761
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:01,239
comics are not as big or something. There's tons of

762
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,000
comics that I worked with that I'm so inspired by

763
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,480
and proud of that I knew very well. But now

764
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:10,239
I'm in this place where I just it doesn't call

765
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,199
to me to go into a comedy club and perform

766
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,679
for a drunk audience nearly as much as to like

767
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:20,000
hear what's coming through me. And the number one intention

768
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:22,000
I have on this planet is to know what I

769
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,039
truly am, not know what I am good at, not

770
00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:27,199
know what I can get views for, not know what

771
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,480
I do, not what am I And so that's making

772
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:34,920
me not ask what do I do? But what's here?

773
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,960
And I'm okay sacrificing. Yeah, maybe I didn't have that career,

774
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,519
but I felt my soul didn't want it. And just

775
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:47,119
because something looks good to everybody else or just because

776
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:50,119
at one point it was my dream career doesn't mean

777
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:52,639
it's always going to be. Like you can truly listen

778
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:55,840
to your soul and even outlive your dream and like

779
00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:59,000
out and have a new dream following, and it starts

780
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,079
to be not even a dream, Like my dream isn't

781
00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:04,000
what's the next career? My dream is? Like what do

782
00:39:04,039 --> 00:39:06,559
you want to tell me right now? Like how what

783
00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:08,880
a weird concept to what could what if I could

784
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,320
feel good in my soul no matter what I do?

785
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,639
You know, Stop it isn't that weird? Stop it like

786
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:16,480
what if you know?

787
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:18,199
Speaker 1: Like are you a cult leader? Are you in scientology?

788
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 2: There's times where I'm like, I find my heart wants

789
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,920
to be like like just for my soul, like it

790
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,519
was I love to just have a regular job, like

791
00:39:26,559 --> 00:39:28,880
I wouldn't have to even hold space for or do

792
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,519
all this, Like I could just like go shovel bricks

793
00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:34,119
somewhere shovel bricks. See how bad I'd be at it?

794
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:37,639
I like I'd move bricks and shovel dirt. But I

795
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:39,400
found it like be like, I bet I'd have like

796
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,280
eight hours a day just moving my body, hearing my heart, Like.

797
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: I promise you sure you're gonna feel it.

798
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying that's it. I'm just saying here first,

799
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:55,039
whatever after, like, I'm not defined by what I do.

800
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:58,119
And I think one thing that really hurts people is

801
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:00,360
they're defined by their money or their lack of their

802
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,119
victim story, their achiever, what they do, how many views

803
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:06,559
they have, how many views they don't have, what what

804
00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:09,159
people think of them. Like, if you are what people

805
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:12,400
think of you, then then you're screwed because that person

806
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:14,440
likes you and that person hates you. So what do

807
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:16,639
I just be like, Hey, I'm great, No, I'm darable

808
00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:19,760
because you're in the room like there's there's it's It's

809
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:22,320
one of the things about the ego that's so amazing

810
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,119
is it makes no logical sense.

811
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

812
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,119
and now back to the show.

813
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 2: If all you have to do is just get closer

814
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,760
to it and look at it, and it's caught. Like,

815
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,280
for instance, there's people that have a pain in their body,

816
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:45,119
that they're not enough. You know what I asked them,

817
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:47,320
I asked the ego, okay, just so we know and

818
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,360
can get this person do enough? What do you define enough?

819
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,480
And the ego has to stay vague. It can't answer

820
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,360
because the ego's basis is on that you're not enough,

821
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,679
and the ego only thrives on me making you enough.

822
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:02,599
But if you finally get enough, then the ego dies.

823
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:04,880
So it has to keep making not enough be the

824
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,360
thing you are. But if a person says I have

825
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,119
this deep pain that I'm not enough, I will say, okay,

826
00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:13,400
so just so we know. To the ego, when is

827
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,920
she enough? Right is it when she hits a million dollars?

828
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,760
When dad says that, it'll never give you an answer me.

829
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

830
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: The ego isn't based on any reality, and so the

831
00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:27,679
ego loves to complicate things. It loves to say you

832
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,760
will be enough when you have this, but it has

833
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,480
to base everything on your still not and then when

834
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:34,639
you get this, you will be and then you get it.

835
00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:37,280
But the ego's like, well, I can't die. I'd rather

836
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:39,639
listen to the now. And this thing that has to

837
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:44,039
sabotage everything so it can overcome it. I'd rather it die, right,

838
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:47,119
I would rather just become okay with what I am,

839
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,440
no matter what I'm doing, no matter how famous or

840
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,280
not famous, how good I am at something or not,

841
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:58,559
because we are basing our life on starting off that

842
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:01,559
I'm not enough or that I can achieve, so that

843
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:04,039
I can achieve. And I had an incident happen to

844
00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:07,519
me I told you about in another room. I had

845
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:11,280
an incident happened to me about a week ago that

846
00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:15,199
really helped me heal something. I was on my way

847
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,840
to a friend of mine JP JP sears. I was

848
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,199
going to his house to shoot a sketch. And I'm

849
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,920
in a turn lane. There's two lanes here on the highway,

850
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,719
two lanes here right. I'm about to turn left, and

851
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,400
in the oncoming turn in my turn lane right is

852
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,039
a guy coming this way. He's passing a semi so

853
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:37,360
it's a giant Bronco going like one hundred and ten

854
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,519
miles an hour. He's not looking forward, he's looking at

855
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:42,800
the truck. And I see this thing as coming straight

856
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,960
at me and I'm driving forward. I had to merge

857
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,840
into the back into the other lane to get out

858
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,400
of the sky's way. He almost clipped me. I turn

859
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:55,039
left and I drive into JP's house and I sit

860
00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:58,360
in the driveway and I just had this moments like

861
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,840
that was so that my whole life almost ended. And

862
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,639
I sat there and I just felt for a second,

863
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,480
and all of a sudden, the space started showing me

864
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:13,599
people that I know, hearing that I died. It started

865
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:19,159
showing me like my daughter, my wife, my daughter's mom.

866
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,360
And this was the weirdest thing. And I don't want

867
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,880
this to sound egoic, but it helped remove something in

868
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,360
me that was the opposite of this. I noticed in

869
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,719
that I'll probably be emotional with this, but I noticed

870
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,559
that people cared and they would be sad if I

871
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:41,519
was gone. And there was this bizarre like revelation that

872
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,880
just went through, like my best friend Justin and JP

873
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:47,440
finding out and everybody and you and I was just

874
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,360
like feeling they cared. And what's weird is with our ego,

875
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,199
we have a lie in our body that is I

876
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,320
will be enough when I achieved something. I will be

877
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:02,000
enough when I make the money. And it's predicated on

878
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:05,119
because no one cares about me now, and there is

879
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,840
a dark tunnel in our bodies. And I will say

880
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:11,039
especially for men right now too. I'm not saying women

881
00:44:11,079 --> 00:44:13,920
don't have it too, but men have this other world

882
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:16,679
of they are what they achieve, so when they get

883
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,360
that outcome, that's there, but on a higher conscious level level,

884
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,599
it's still an addiction that covers up the pain inside.

885
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,719
And men also have the shadow of you know, man up,

886
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,000
don't feel your feelings, and so there's like this almost

887
00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:37,199
required to be successful, dark shadow that we can't really

888
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,320
talk about. That just feels like who cares if I die?

889
00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:45,039
Other than they get the money or other than this thing.

890
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:47,079
They care about that, but they don't care about me.

891
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,239
You know, that's just in It's not blame to anybody,

892
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,880
it's just in order to achieve, I have to be

893
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:59,159
a joke here first, right, And I felt that wash

894
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:04,960
away when I felt there would be people that really cared,

895
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,039
and it was in a way humbling because the same

896
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:13,840
voice that says no one would care also has to

897
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,320
think I'm the best in the world because of my

898
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:22,039
performance versus that I exist. And so the ego that

899
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:24,280
thinks I'm better in everyone I have to be look

900
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,840
at me because of my fame or how many views

901
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,199
do I have or do people like me or I

902
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,280
make this money has this shadow but also compares and

903
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,639
thinks it's better then And when I saw that, oh

904
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:37,960
my gosh, like people would really care if I died,

905
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,000
Like I think there would be people that ki It's like,

906
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:40,840
it's weird.

907
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: I hate to tell you, so if there would be

908
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,039
a few people that like.

909
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: Here, well, you know what's really embarrassing to say is

910
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,760
there's a thing in my heart that very often doesn't

911
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,639
feel that. And I know that when I work with

912
00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:54,679
my friends and my clients and my world, that we

913
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,239
all have that thing that like like I'm worthless because

914
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,239
the world is so based on achievement and what's happening

915
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:08,199
outside comparison social media, what people think that there is

916
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,119
a worthless thing and then that's covered up with what

917
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,519
I can do. But your worthiness is your existence. I

918
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:17,760
don't mean to sound too much like Bashar, but your

919
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,599
worthiness is that you exist. And it's such an f

920
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:23,679
you to God to say I'm worth something when I

921
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,599
achieve even I have to find my purpose is such

922
00:46:26,639 --> 00:46:30,960
a weird sentence because we forget that our hard moments

923
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,840
were on purpose. Like when you fell off and you

924
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,440
hit a low was on purpose. It resteered you re

925
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:40,880
awoke you. So I now believe I'm always on purpose

926
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,400
and even when I do something that's a distracting comfort,

927
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,519
I'll learn from it and be like, oh I hate

928
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:49,679
that I did that. Or if I do something too egoic,

929
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,159
it readjusts you.

930
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,199
Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing that you start looking at you know,

931
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,719
you don't ever see a tree deal with this, never

932
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,400
see an animal deal with like.

933
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: If it had social media and Netflix, it would I.

934
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,559
Speaker 1: Mean it's just I mean, like, am I the good tree?

935
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:07,639
But I'm not a sequoia? Yeah?

936
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: But imagine if every tree was raised by tree parents

937
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,400
that are like you better be a doctor or a

938
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,199
lawyer and screw your dreams and you know what I mean,

939
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:20,159
like or just abandoned. You be sucking at making apples.

940
00:47:20,159 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: And your apples would be sour.

941
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd be terrible. And you're sitting there. Do they

942
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,199
like apples? Am I more of a para?

943
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,559
Speaker 1: Is my more of a pear tree? Yeah? Like all

944
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:31,400
of that ego X stuff, But I really want to

945
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,880
be is an avocado tree? Right?

946
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: That's going to be my dream. And it's like to

947
00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:37,920
rebel against your parents who told you you better be

948
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,079
an apple tree right, like it's just so stupid and

949
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:45,599
this whole should world is the lie. And I believe

950
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:47,320
as we go into twenty twenty six that's going to

951
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,119
fall out.

952
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's going to be really loud and die.

953
00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:54,840
I think that we're I think we're going through We're

954
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,440
going through such a shift in humanity right now.

955
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, such a massive every day tomorrow this will feel

956
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:02,400
like a year ago.

957
00:48:03,159 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy. I mean, it was just yesterday twenty

958
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:11,000
twenty started, just yesterday, just yesterday twenty twenty started, and

959
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:14,000
I just it just man, it took off like a

960
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:19,119
freight train and has not let up. I wanted to

961
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:21,480
ask you before we continue into the twenty I want

962
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,719
to hear your thoughts on twenty twenty. Yeah. Sure, you

963
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,360
were talking about enough, and that is a very powerful idea,

964
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,199
the power, the power of enough, because most of us,

965
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:38,239
especially in the West, want more and more and more.

966
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:41,119
Hence why our planet is turning into what it's turning into.

967
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,840
Corporations are doing what they're doing, but specifically I wanted

968
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,920
to hear your thoughts on you know, we have more

969
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:52,079
billionaires and in our lifetime we will have a trillion

970
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:59,679
in our lifetime, which sounds insane. Elon's halfway there. What

971
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,360
do you think is happening? Because that's a disease. There's

972
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,239
because when you have a billion dollars, let's just say

973
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,559
you and me each have a billion dollars, that's more

974
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:12,400
money than a human being, an average human being can

975
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:19,039
spend in multiple lifetimes, I mean generational wealth. That's why

976
00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:22,960
I love the story of JK. Rowling. She keeps giving

977
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:25,079
going on the Forbes liston coming off, because she just

978
00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:27,559
keeps giving it away. She's like, the first person to

979
00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:29,599
drop down. I was a billion of but I don't

980
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:31,960
want to be in a billionaire She's like, hey, you know,

981
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,400
she was on welfare living in a car when she

982
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,800
was writing Harry Potter, so she kind of has an

983
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,000
understanding of what the realities of things are.

984
00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: So she's like, I don't need two billion dollars.

985
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: I'll give a billion away. But I'm curious about the

986
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,039
disease of this, I need more and more and more,

987
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,760
the consumption of like I need more, I need more,

988
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,960
I need more. What is happening to not only individuals,

989
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,039
because there are obviously some very famous billionaires out there

990
00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:00,880
who just keep wanting more and wanting more and wanting

991
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,880
more and wanting more as opposed to just like like

992
00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:07,440
perfect example. And I don't want to go too deep

993
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,880
into this, but what's happening with Warner Brothers right now?

994
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:14,039
Warner Brothers. So Warner Brothers is Netflix. Netflix is buying

995
00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:18,519
Warner Brothers. But then Paramount, the Ellisons, who are billionaires

996
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,880
are doing a hostile trying to do a hostile takeover

997
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,239
of Warner Brothers. And I'm going, what's wrong with you people?

998
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,480
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

999
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:37,119
and now back to the show, Like it's just more,

1000
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:39,599
I need more, I need more, I need more constantly.

1001
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't know if it's well, one

1002
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,360
of the things is it's not truly the highest, but

1003
00:50:44,519 --> 00:50:47,199
it's so rewarded that they don't hit the wall. Meaning

1004
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,719
like if you're a billionaire and you're in you're a

1005
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,440
lot of them grew up in worlds that weren't checked too,

1006
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:56,199
meaning like you and I, if we go off course,

1007
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,159
life corrects you and makes you look at yourself and

1008
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,119
humbles you if you're grown in these people that are

1009
00:51:03,199 --> 00:51:05,719
born to parents that were in these kind of other

1010
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,719
secret worlds and different things like that.

1011
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, but many of them, but many of them, like

1012
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:10,039
you know.

1013
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,199
Speaker 2: Well even separate from that. Yeah, when you if you're

1014
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,360
if you're able to keep the good thing coming in

1015
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,239
that fills that thing, why do you want to stop?

1016
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:24,000
Then you're not having any reason to look at yourself.

1017
00:51:24,199 --> 00:51:26,440
You know, you don't hit a wall, you don't have

1018
00:51:26,519 --> 00:51:28,800
to go inward and go is money the only thing?

1019
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,400
And it's not until that thing gets hit that we

1020
00:51:32,519 --> 00:51:37,480
finally look at the boy inside. I mean millionaires eventually

1021
00:51:38,199 --> 00:51:42,719
some not all go to a Buddhist monk for advice, yes,

1022
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,280
but the reverse never happens. Right, there's no Buddhist monk going,

1023
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,159
I just need the Lamborghini And how do I how

1024
00:51:50,159 --> 00:51:52,559
do I eight figure? Like there's none of that?

1025
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: How can I grind?

1026
00:51:55,079 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: And I mean I'm enjoyed that. That's funny because it's like.

1027
00:51:59,159 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: That's not it's insane. So that's actually really truly profound.

1028
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:07,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no Eckhart like need more. It's like now,

1029
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,559
not later, you know, like it's just and so we're here.

1030
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,679
I'm seeking the highest truth and I would give up

1031
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,440
everything for it, right because it's more rewarding. Like I

1032
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,320
did say merge me with my soul, no matter what

1033
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,360
the cost, and I want my soul and it's better,

1034
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,079
And people go, how could you do that? What about

1035
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:29,480
this and this and this? And I say, you don't

1036
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,360
get what your soul can do, like you don't get

1037
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,920
how miraculous worth it. Like life will take care of

1038
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,679
those issues when you are merged with your soul and

1039
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,760
the ones that are the billionaires. Often there's no leverage

1040
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,679
to ask for that because there's just a constant. If

1041
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:46,840
you're going to Vegas and you hit a slot machine

1042
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,840
that keeps paying out, you're not going to walk away

1043
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,519
from it. It's when you finally start losing the next

1044
00:52:51,559 --> 00:52:53,400
morning that you go, I got to do something with

1045
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,960
my life and you leave the casino.

1046
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,599
Speaker 1: But that's the adversity we were talking about before. That

1047
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,719
was the thing that leaves you a comfort because in

1048
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,880
the month it keeps coming in, it's comfortable. It's like

1049
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:02,599
boom boom boom.

1050
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:06,599
Speaker 2: So then wouldn't the low the next day be on

1051
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,719
purpose too? For a person? In other words, people think

1052
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,800
their purpose is to make as much money as possible

1053
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,880
impact people with that money. But sometimes life will throw

1054
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,079
a curveball and go you're hitting a slot machine that's losing. Now,

1055
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,760
now you're going to go through being that person that

1056
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,280
sits and lives at the slot machine for a good

1057
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,239
month and loses all your money because I need you

1058
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,000
to hit a wall, because your soul asks for deeper.

1059
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,159
And some of those billionaires, their soul maybe does does

1060
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,239
later in time, maybe their soul will hit something, but

1061
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,039
right now their soul isn't asking for deeper, it's asking

1062
00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:41,760
for more. And that's the journey they're on. People like

1063
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,920
you and I and anyone listening to something like let

1064
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,320
of those wouldn't listen to this. In fact, probably my

1065
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,960
most triggered audience is is millionaire men. When I say

1066
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,239
you're just the now, the guy that's like, I got

1067
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,039
ten Porsches in the garage, FU I earned that. I

1068
00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:58,480
want to be my accomplishment. And I'm like, yeah, you're

1069
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:01,599
just now now. It's more profound than all you've achieved.

1070
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:04,840
But most people are like, no, I am this doctorate,

1071
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,679
I am this eight figures, I am the money. F

1072
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,880
you for saying I'm the now. I want to know

1073
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,400
how I can get more. I'm going to listen to

1074
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:12,840
the speakers that teach me how to get more and

1075
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,440
more and more. That's fine at one point if your

1076
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,159
soul wants it, if your soul was meant to you'll

1077
00:54:18,199 --> 00:54:21,000
hit a wall and you'll be so happy later you did.

1078
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:22,639
You have to learn stuff on the way, and it's

1079
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:24,159
going to be the death of the wounded you that

1080
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,440
needed to get more. But this is why it's funny

1081
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,760
to say my purpose is this, because sometimes life will

1082
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,599
go I'm going to throw you off this because I

1083
00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:35,800
have a higher purpose for you. So I find I'm

1084
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,079
always on purpose, whether I'm talking to you on a

1085
00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:42,239
big stage, I'm peeing, I'm on a date with my

1086
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,719
wife lying down on the couch. It's funny to be like,

1087
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,880
your purpose is only this grandiose thing or how you

1088
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,079
measure that you've impacted the world that way. But I

1089
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:55,199
think of everything as purpose, Every dark time, every fall

1090
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,920
apart with a friend, everything was right.

1091
00:54:58,599 --> 00:54:58,679
Speaker 1: And.

1092
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: It's it's so right that it almost feels like everything

1093
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,519
I've ever gone through almost feels scripted. And that's why

1094
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:08,199
I even question. A lot of people would challenge this,

1095
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,360
and I just go even farther with it. I even

1096
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,519
wonder if there's free will. I know that we make

1097
00:55:13,559 --> 00:55:17,000
free will decisions but something in our awareness made us

1098
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:18,039
choose that decision.

1099
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: So, if I may quote the oracle, yeah, in the matrix, yes,

1100
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,280
this exact things like free will. It's like, do you

1101
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,599
want do you want this piece of candy?

1102
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the oracle.

1103
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,039
Speaker 1: Yes. He's like, well, if you're an oracle, you should know.

1104
00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:38,199
He goes, Oh, I know. He's like, but what going

1105
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,679
to scramble your brain is you've already made the decision,

1106
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:47,239
that's already been done. Yeah, you're here to figure out why. Yeah. Yes,

1107
00:55:47,639 --> 00:55:51,519
that is such a profound idea because and then you

1108
00:55:51,559 --> 00:55:55,239
start pulling back to a bird's eye view of our

1109
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,440
soul and our journey and our life. If you do

1110
00:55:57,519 --> 00:55:59,440
have a blueprint, a sole blueprint, if you are on

1111
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,599
the other side going in this life, I'm going to

1112
00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:02,960
be a stand up comic. I'm going to be born

1113
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,639
to this. These parents who are going to make me

1114
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,440
want to become a stand up comic because I got

1115
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,280
to go through all of that. I'm going to become famous.

1116
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,840
But then I'm going to reject all of that and

1117
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,760
I'm going to go down the spiritual path. Then I'm

1118
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,199
going to fasten then talk to this guy nam out

1119
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,599
So all of that, right, we're here not to figure out.

1120
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,880
And there is free will, There's no question there's a version.

1121
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,079
I mean, how you get to point I can get

1122
00:56:22,159 --> 00:56:23,679
up and do whatever the hell I want? Right, Yes,

1123
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,840
there is free will, but there are and I always

1124
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,360
say this, mile markers in our life. And how we

1125
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,360
get to those mile markers is up to us. But

1126
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,440
there are mile markers that we laid down. So we're

1127
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,400
here to figure out why did we put those mile

1128
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,559
markers there? Why are we choosing to put our soul

1129
00:56:39,679 --> 00:56:42,920
through this? And if you start thinking about your life

1130
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,800
that way, holy crap, you.

1131
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,159
Speaker 2: Know a way that I actually see it? This is crazy.

1132
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,320
I want you to picture that there's a higher me

1133
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:54,159
floating above this me, right or I would be the

1134
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:58,119
higher self. And he's going, He's going, Kyle, I'm here, yes,

1135
00:56:58,159 --> 00:57:00,920
And then Kyle gets caught in oh, my stand up

1136
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,199
comedy is really successful right now, and he's like, oh

1137
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,639
he's shoot, he's all excited about that. He's not paying

1138
00:57:05,639 --> 00:57:09,320
attention to me. And then like the Kyle's all egoic

1139
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,880
and going like, oh I'm doing I am in comedy,

1140
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,079
and this Kyle above is going, Kyle, do you not

1141
00:57:15,159 --> 00:57:18,280
hear and it's like, Okay, screw up his comedy career,

1142
00:57:18,719 --> 00:57:20,719
make him want to quit it, right, And then I

1143
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,440
get over here and then I'm like, Okay, now I'm

1144
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,599
a spiritual speaker and I have this stuff. But then

1145
00:57:24,719 --> 00:57:27,039
let's say I get caught in the identity of being

1146
00:57:27,039 --> 00:57:29,760
a spiritual speaker, and I'm like, I got more views

1147
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,280
and I'm doing so great, and look at me as

1148
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,920
a spiritual I'm so great. I'm a spirit Kyle's like,

1149
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,960
screw up his spiritual career, right, And then you go,

1150
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,719
I get in a relationship. Oh, I'm seen by the woman.

1151
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:42,639
She's so great. I'm finally seen. And this Kyle's above going,

1152
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:44,719
he's not paying attention to me. Now she's the answer

1153
00:57:44,719 --> 00:57:49,800
to everything, and he's making her his God sabotage that relationship, right,

1154
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,400
and and everything is me getting closer to the real

1155
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,039
me versus the pattern that has to to make sure

1156
00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:58,360
my dad isn't mad at me, or that my you know.

1157
00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:02,599
And so like life keeps throwing us off course from

1158
00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:04,960
what our ego wanted, and then we got a course

1159
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,119
correct and we get closer to it. So if you

1160
00:58:07,159 --> 00:58:10,840
picture there's an Alex above you going like that it goes,

1161
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:14,519
throw off the thing, give him an accident. Okay, Kyle's

1162
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:17,599
not paying attention. He's more excited about shooting a sketch

1163
00:58:17,639 --> 00:58:20,480
than his life. Make a car almost hit him. You

1164
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:23,880
know what I'm saying, Like, send in the bronco and

1165
00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:27,840
the and then Okay, he's now more and okay he's

1166
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,800
going to spend the next week crying out of gratitude. Cool,

1167
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,599
that dark wound that has to achieve is out. This

1168
00:58:33,679 --> 00:58:35,800
is how I'm a little bit seeing life. I'm getting

1169
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:40,000
closer and closer to the real me. And that connection

1170
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,639
is more profound and more important to me than making

1171
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,679
a certain politician your god, making an outcome your god,

1172
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,159
making money your god. Whatever you think is more important

1173
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:52,719
than your soul. If you get too caught in that

1174
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,800
and you have an awareness like we do, life will

1175
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,840
knock that out of your hand to get you see

1176
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,239
that you're okay without it. I think money's the answer

1177
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,280
to everything, and you have something in you that wants

1178
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,159
to do this thing for real, Like we're on this

1179
00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:08,800
planet to get to the truth of what we are.

1180
00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:11,119
I'm not here to make the most money. I'm here

1181
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:13,559
to you know what I mean, get to what I

1182
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:17,320
am life will go, Oh you're caught in that egoic thing.

1183
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,000
I'm gonna knock it out of you. Now. The people

1184
00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:23,039
that are you're talking about like that are the trillionaires

1185
00:59:23,039 --> 00:59:25,880
and stuff like that that are that keep going. I

1186
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,840
don't know that they're they're they were asking for that.

1187
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,760
They might have been like, I'm at a consciousness whor

1188
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,880
I want to experience being a trillionaire, and so life's like, okay,

1189
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,840
that's yours. I feel like someone like you or I. I.

1190
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,000
Did you ever hear the study that was out recently

1191
00:59:41,079 --> 00:59:45,119
that's really profound to me. They did a thing I

1192
00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:47,679
think I told you about this before. They they took

1193
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,280
mice and they made a cherry blossom scent, and when

1194
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,840
the mice smelled it, they shocked the mice. Right, they

1195
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,039
did it again. Cherry blossom smet the mic. They did

1196
00:59:57,039 --> 00:59:59,920
this over and over till the mice were Pavlov's dog conditions.

1197
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:04,360
The scent equals this. Those mice had kids. They didn't

1198
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,320
shock the kids, but they put the scent out. The

1199
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:09,760
kids got scared.

1200
01:00:10,639 --> 01:00:11,039
Speaker 1: They did.

1201
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,519
Speaker 2: Those ones had kids. These ones didn't get shocked, made

1202
01:00:14,519 --> 01:00:19,039
the scent. The grandchildren got scared. Five generations I believe.

1203
01:00:20,239 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1204
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:32,079
and now back to the show. So that's this is

1205
01:00:32,119 --> 01:00:33,199
ancestral trauma.

1206
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,639
Speaker 2: So this is what I oweay that I see this

1207
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,519
imagine some people might say we're incarnated. Whatever it is,

1208
01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:42,719
I totally honor that. I think the reason the world

1209
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:45,119
feels heavy to some people is not because you were

1210
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:47,679
reincarnated from a harder thing. I think many of us

1211
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,199
came here from just light and this was the heaviest

1212
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:54,199
planet ever and were exhausted because it's got so much

1213
01:00:54,199 --> 01:00:56,239
going on. Like I have people that are like, I'm

1214
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,239
so hard at tired of this world. I think I

1215
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,920
was reincarnated, And I believe if I was witch burned,

1216
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,719
and I'm like no, then this would be like the ritz.

1217
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,559
If you're a rich witch burned, I think you came

1218
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:08,159
here from a light. Now what if? What if I

1219
01:01:08,199 --> 01:01:11,960
think about my ancestors and just the world before a

1220
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,400
long time ago, when we're talking great depression, slavery, vikings,

1221
01:01:15,559 --> 01:01:18,880
whatever it is, right and it's going down the line,

1222
01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:22,599
and I see this is happening, and you and I go, Okay,

1223
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,960
I'm going to be the light worker for all the

1224
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,119
traumas that my parents didn't light work from the ancestors before,

1225
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,159
and so how am I going to do that? I'm

1226
01:01:33,159 --> 01:01:36,079
going to take on my dad's pain, yep, and I'm

1227
01:01:36,119 --> 01:01:38,480
going to hold the wounds that he had, and then

1228
01:01:38,519 --> 01:01:41,239
as I get older, I'm going to alchemize them right

1229
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,519
so that my daughter and future generations don't have to

1230
01:01:44,519 --> 01:01:47,280
go do this. So that's so when people are like,

1231
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,039
what's my purpose, I really feel that if they're someone

1232
01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:52,920
that would follow our content, You're a light worker. You're

1233
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:58,280
here to alchemize pain and move healing to go, you know,

1234
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,480
to to make frequencies different. So you know, it's so funny.

1235
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:05,719
My wife Amber and I and my daughter Vivis sometimes

1236
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:10,239
we will go to concerts of enormous nineteen seventies ban vands.

1237
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,119
My eight year old daughter has seen the Eagles, Earth

1238
01:02:13,159 --> 01:02:17,119
Wind and Fire and Heart and Indigo Girls Melissa Ethridge

1239
01:02:17,159 --> 01:02:21,239
and my wife and I also the Elo And I'll

1240
01:02:21,239 --> 01:02:25,000
tell you something really, really really weird. We get about

1241
01:02:25,039 --> 01:02:29,000
seven eight songs in and we are exhausted, and the

1242
01:02:29,239 --> 01:02:32,960
room is full of seventies and eighty year olds who

1243
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,519
are bet are their mind that are fine? How come

1244
01:02:37,079 --> 01:02:40,239
my wife and I in our forties are more exhausted

1245
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,719
than the people in their seventies and eighties. I believe

1246
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,880
it's because people like she and I are here transcending

1247
01:02:48,239 --> 01:02:52,320
the unconscious crap that our parents didn't transcend, all the

1248
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,480
guilt and shame that my dad felt. He didn't go

1249
01:02:54,519 --> 01:02:56,559
to anyone and bring it to life. He didn't heal it.

1250
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,360
He kind of distracted himself with a TV a lot

1251
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,639
and his work. My mom didn't go to therapy and

1252
01:03:02,679 --> 01:03:05,400
do the inner healing work, right. I love my mom.

1253
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,360
I missed both my parents. My dad passed away three

1254
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:12,920
months ago actually, and I am here taking that pain

1255
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,239
that they had and like actually alchemizing it and changing

1256
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,000
it so I don't pass the crap that I had

1257
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:23,519
to hold to my daughter. And I believe that's partly

1258
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:26,679
why the room could be full of seventy and eighty

1259
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,079
year olds loving every song of the Eagles till the

1260
01:03:29,159 --> 01:03:31,239
end of the concert at eleven. They're getting drunk, They're fine.

1261
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,840
That's because a lot of those people aren't doing any

1262
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,920
inner work on the traumas in their body. They're just

1263
01:03:36,239 --> 01:03:40,039
they're just drinking, distracting and going. My wife and I

1264
01:03:40,159 --> 01:03:45,119
are exhausted because we're healing ourselves of the wounds that

1265
01:03:45,159 --> 01:03:49,599
we collected from the earlier linear lines. Right. So I

1266
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,880
find that the more unconscious you are, the more you

1267
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,840
can handle this life like and be up late and

1268
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,039
do whatever, because you're not facing your traumas, you're not

1269
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,800
light working. Yeah, and us people that are doing the work,

1270
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,519
I'm like, oh God, I just cried this thing out, like,

1271
01:04:06,119 --> 01:04:09,239
oh God, dude, I started b We did an event

1272
01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:12,400
this weekend called Out with the Old, In with the Now,

1273
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,599
and the premise of the event and it's now a

1274
01:04:16,719 --> 01:04:20,519
video that we're offering people that I'm so proud of.

1275
01:04:21,159 --> 01:04:23,079
But one of the things we did is we're meditating.

1276
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,800
We meditate, we hold the stuff. I noticed that when

1277
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,400
I meditate, man, it'll be like some dark stuff comes up,

1278
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,880
some pain. I don't know what it is. But the

1279
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,559
longer I meditate, the more it finally starts to reveal itself,

1280
01:04:37,079 --> 01:04:40,159
all this pain. That pain comes up. Yesterday, I had

1281
01:04:40,159 --> 01:04:43,599
a flash I'd never seen before. I'm meditating. I go

1282
01:04:43,639 --> 01:04:45,719
about an hour and a half with the audience, Right,

1283
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,199
I'm just meditating. I get a flash out of nowhere.

1284
01:04:49,239 --> 01:04:52,559
It shows me a very clear vision of me homeless,

1285
01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:57,559
and I'm like, I've never had that fear. I've never

1286
01:04:58,159 --> 01:05:02,559
I have no idea why that's here. But I then

1287
01:05:03,639 --> 01:05:05,760
told my wife about it. My wife Amber, I told

1288
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,519
her and I just said, I have this thing that

1289
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,440
I feel like this things show up and it showed

1290
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,559
me me homeless. And then I said, and how humiliating

1291
01:05:13,559 --> 01:05:15,360
that would be to be homeless in front of you?

1292
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,679
And then I started crying and I had this subconscious

1293
01:05:18,719 --> 01:05:20,920
thing and I was like, I don't know if this

1294
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,840
is from a great grandparent that was homeless. I don't

1295
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,079
know if it's an egoic construct that had me on

1296
01:05:26,119 --> 01:05:28,480
a linear timeline where I was going to be homeless

1297
01:05:28,519 --> 01:05:31,039
in the future. But I just healed it. Did that

1298
01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:31,559
make sense?

1299
01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: Like yeah?

1300
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 2: Or it could be a past life, or it could

1301
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,440
be a past life, or could be a fear that

1302
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,920
was so deep in there. I never knew it was there.

1303
01:05:38,639 --> 01:05:42,440
But I cried it out, I released it, and then

1304
01:05:42,519 --> 01:05:45,199
guess what, I finished the event And I was so tired.

1305
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,800
Why Because I just let go of a ton of

1306
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,199
bags that my energy field had been holding for forty

1307
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:57,119
eight years. So that is exhausting to keep dying. It's

1308
01:05:57,159 --> 01:06:00,599
like every day. People that are light workers having birth

1309
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,079
over and over. We're just going into labor. A woman

1310
01:06:03,079 --> 01:06:06,079
who gives labor, she's tired the next day, right, and

1311
01:06:06,159 --> 01:06:08,880
so people are like, why am I so tired? All

1312
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,800
the way, You'll notice it's mainly conscious people that ask that.

1313
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,400
It's because you're literally dying over and over and over

1314
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,159
again to your truer self. And our body is just

1315
01:06:20,199 --> 01:06:22,800
full of a bunch of false patterns that if we

1316
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,719
get in the now, will come to light and dissolve

1317
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,440
and disintegrate. And then you get people are like, I

1318
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,679
don't know who I am anymore. That's correct. When you

1319
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,800
did know who you were, it was a lie. That

1320
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,559
was the close of the false self. Just because it's

1321
01:06:36,639 --> 01:06:40,199
unfamiliar doesn't mean it's not. You like more and more

1322
01:06:40,239 --> 01:06:41,960
when I get closer and closer to it, I don't

1323
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,880
know who I am, which means I'm actually who I

1324
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:45,440
really am.

1325
01:06:45,639 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: So if you look back, I mean we were talking,

1326
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,480
wasn't that it was amazing? It was amazing When we

1327
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,960
were talking earlier before we started recording, you were talking

1328
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,559
about looking back at you a different person who used

1329
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:01,559
to be, And you know, I look back at who

1330
01:07:01,639 --> 01:07:05,840
I was last year, last, six six months ago, even,

1331
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,159
But you really go back and you look twenty years.

1332
01:07:09,239 --> 01:07:12,159
It's like I haven't gone to a high school reunion

1333
01:07:12,559 --> 01:07:16,039
because I just got nineclined to do so. But I

1334
01:07:16,039 --> 01:07:19,000
imagine that if I did go back, you'd see some

1335
01:07:19,079 --> 01:07:21,679
of those people. I'm like, oh my god, they haven't changed. Yes,

1336
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,159
holy crap. They're the same human being. They're acting the

1337
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:30,199
same way, they're doing the same things. Where I look

1338
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,760
back at myself, like I said, six months ago, a

1339
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,519
year ago, five years ago, she completely I don't even

1340
01:07:37,559 --> 01:07:41,840
recognize that. I don't. I just don't recognize them. And

1341
01:07:42,039 --> 01:07:46,079
we're constantly being pushed forward by what we're dealing with

1342
01:07:46,239 --> 01:07:50,760
on a daily basis. It's it's it's fascinating to see.

1343
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,400
But when you find someone that you meet every once

1344
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:54,960
in a while, you meet someone from your paths, and

1345
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,960
you go, man, you you really haven't changed.

1346
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 2: And even though I'm just projecting what I wouldn't want

1347
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,880
on them, do you know how sad that is? That

1348
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,000
that means they're just holding shame, guilt and regret. Like,

1349
01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:13,840
if you're not changing, you're just carrying all this baggage. Now,

1350
01:08:14,119 --> 01:08:17,079
the people that are doing that might have a lower awareness,

1351
01:08:17,119 --> 01:08:19,359
so they're fine with it. Oh ye, yeah, there's like,

1352
01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:21,640
if you're fine being a caterpillar and don't get you

1353
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,439
might become a butterfly. You're cool. There's some people whose

1354
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,359
awareness literally is did my football team win? And where

1355
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:28,039
are my cheetos?

1356
01:08:28,239 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: Oh?

1357
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:29,600
Speaker 2: Good, there are my cheetos?

1358
01:08:30,119 --> 01:08:30,319
Speaker 1: Right.

1359
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 2: I don't have that. And the pain that we feel,

1360
01:08:35,079 --> 01:08:39,680
I believe doesn't correlate with where you are as much

1361
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:44,000
as how aware you are from what you're living. That

1362
01:08:44,199 --> 01:08:46,800
is where like, the more I meditate, the higher my

1363
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,800
awareness goes. So if I live in any way that's

1364
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,720
not in accordance with that higher self.

1365
01:08:52,079 --> 01:08:52,239
Speaker 1: You know.

1366
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 2: I can think of a lot of people I know

1367
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,800
who are very artistic and creative and magical. I can

1368
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,319
think of them getting into relationships with people that are

1369
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,960
very stagnant and addicted, and very often when that happens,

1370
01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:10,000
the aware one who is like an artist and musical

1371
01:09:10,039 --> 01:09:11,840
and whatever. I can think of people very close to me.

1372
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,399
They are aware, they could be more, but they have to.

1373
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,359
You know, A butterfly married to a caterpillar has to

1374
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:20,840
move at the pace of the caterpillar, right, and very

1375
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,520
often the butterfly that clips their wings to stay. They

1376
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,199
often get sick much bigger than the caterpillar, or they

1377
01:09:28,239 --> 01:09:31,319
die early. I believe very much. My mom was very

1378
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:35,000
artistic and creative and was in a relationship that nothing

1379
01:09:35,039 --> 01:09:36,399
but love to the guy, but I felt it was

1380
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,119
very stagnant for her, and she got sick and ill

1381
01:09:39,159 --> 01:09:41,399
and died at sixty nine. And I have a friend

1382
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,800
whose mom was so loving and open hearted and married

1383
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,039
to an alcoholic and died young. And I just feel

1384
01:09:48,039 --> 01:09:50,279
like the more you're aware, if you don't live in

1385
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:54,520
accordance with your awareness, you're going to really suffer. But

1386
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,680
the ironic thing is the guys that I just mentioned

1387
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,840
that were with those women, They're sitting on the couch, drinking,

1388
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,640
gonna live forever. Do you get what I'm saying? Yes,

1389
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,039
because their awareness is low, so they're they're not in

1390
01:10:08,079 --> 01:10:12,119
the curse of being the butterfly clipping their wings. They're

1391
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:14,119
just chill watching CNN is fine.

1392
01:10:14,319 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: And then that's where I've met a lot of near

1393
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,720
death experiencers. Who are those guys mm hmmm and gals

1394
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,239
who then all of a sudden had this, Yeah, they

1395
01:10:22,319 --> 01:10:26,000
had a near death experience, and that cannot not change

1396
01:10:26,039 --> 01:10:28,279
you can't unsee it. And by the way, even when

1397
01:10:28,319 --> 01:10:30,640
they come out sometimes you're like, that's just too weird.

1398
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,720
I'm not gonna deal with it, and they'll they'll stuff

1399
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,720
it down for years, yes, decades, and then then the

1400
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,600
sicknesses and then something and then something will eventually pop

1401
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,119
that they can't hold onto it anymore. Yeah, I mean,

1402
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,920
the the will be right back after a word from

1403
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:52,439
our sponsor and now back to the show.

1404
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 2: They's like, you better go into magic, phil like, you better,

1405
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,079
like literally, you're when they'll higher your awarenesses. It's like

1406
01:11:01,119 --> 01:11:05,079
you almost have to start living from the frequency of miracles.

1407
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,680
You can't. You cannot go back to a three D

1408
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,479
world once you've experienced sixth Imagine if Neo got out

1409
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,239
of the matrix and it was pushed back in it

1410
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,840
and just tried to numb it, like tried to do

1411
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,920
what the other character did who wanted to be ex Yeah,

1412
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:21,479
I wanted to do.

1413
01:11:22,079 --> 01:11:22,279
Speaker 1: You know.

1414
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,159
Speaker 2: If he can't unsee this now, and so if he's

1415
01:11:26,319 --> 01:11:28,600
if he was married to someone inside the matrix who

1416
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,079
didn't know, or he tried to do the habits of

1417
01:11:31,119 --> 01:11:34,760
inside the matrix, he would get aggressively sick really quickly.

1418
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: But remember with Cipher, he actually asks a RaSE my memory.

1419
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,119
Speaker 2: Well he has to he has to not know right,

1420
01:11:42,199 --> 01:11:44,640
so he could go back if he can have the

1421
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:45,840
ability to have his memory.

1422
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 1: Or he wanted to be the guy who by my

1423
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,960
football team win, wear's my cheetahs. Yes, that's what he

1424
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:50,399
didn't want.

1425
01:11:50,399 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 2: The truth and the message of that is he wouldn't

1426
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,920
be able to live there if he had the awareness.

1427
01:11:55,039 --> 01:11:56,640
The thing what we don't get is that we're scared

1428
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,840
to go to that magical world. But we don't get

1429
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,880
it would be a magical war world like like we

1430
01:12:02,079 --> 01:12:05,960
have the curse of understanding of a miraculous literal course

1431
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,560
and miracles side of the of the veil, and life

1432
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:13,159
wants to do things very different in that frequency. And

1433
01:12:13,239 --> 01:12:15,920
so when we know what we know and then go

1434
01:12:16,039 --> 01:12:18,880
back to trying to just eat processed food and just

1435
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,960
live the life that we're used to from the eighties

1436
01:12:21,039 --> 01:12:24,239
or nineties, when we have this thing where we know higher,

1437
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,720
that's where that's where all our suffering is.

1438
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, man, because I'll tell you how

1439
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:34,600
it feels for me. But we both took leaps to

1440
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,560
get where we are today, multiple many, many, many.

1441
01:12:37,399 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: Many many handed a new one every few days.

1442
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, and now you are. But there are these big,

1443
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,920
giant ones I left comedy. Yeah, that was a big

1444
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,319
one for you. For me, it was I'm going to

1445
01:12:48,399 --> 01:12:51,800
leave my very successful filmmaking podcast to open up a

1446
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,399
spiritual one. Yeah, that was a massive It was one

1447
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:55,520
of the biggest risks.

1448
01:12:55,239 --> 01:12:57,199
Speaker 2: Which is crazy. I mean you had like Billy Crystal

1449
01:12:57,239 --> 01:12:57,479
on that.

1450
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, we had huge Yeah, it was.

1451
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,680
It was a and it would I don't know where

1452
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,640
it would be now if I would have kept going

1453
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,199
down that road. I knew I wasn't fulfilled anymore. Yeah,

1454
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,600
to a certain point where like after you've spoken to

1455
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,960
eight hundred people about you know, being on set and

1456
01:13:13,399 --> 01:13:16,920
you know the hero's journey, you get to a certain

1457
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,159
point where you're just like this is this needed more?

1458
01:13:19,239 --> 01:13:22,479
I needed more? And then the universe or Connie, my

1459
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,199
spiritual guide, calls me and goes, it's time for you

1460
01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:27,680
to open up a spiritual podcast. But when I took

1461
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,960
this leap, I could not have imagined, even in my

1462
01:13:32,079 --> 01:13:35,600
wildest race, where I am right now. Yes, if you

1463
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,399
would have told me, I would have said, you're absolutely insane.

1464
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 2: Which is the weirdest thing about what a leap is

1465
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,239
is that it's going to kill the frequency that was

1466
01:13:45,279 --> 01:13:47,319
trying to see what would happen. In other words, that

1467
01:13:47,359 --> 01:13:51,039
you in that first podcast or me and comedy literally

1468
01:13:51,119 --> 01:13:54,520
had no idea what was coming. No, and it had

1469
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,000
to kill the one that needed to know when we

1470
01:13:57,119 --> 01:13:59,640
left and so that we could make room for it.

1471
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:05,159
Where it's like you're you, you have to understand that

1472
01:14:05,239 --> 01:14:08,359
it will not show you what's on the other side,

1473
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,680
and that way you'll move based on a feeling versus evidence. Right,

1474
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,159
does that make sense? Also start to learn how to

1475
01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:18,039
move based on a calling versus I can see the

1476
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,840
success of the podcast. I see the guarantee of the money,

1477
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,119
you know, I see the next partner.

1478
01:14:23,119 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: So you know what's funny is when I was a

1479
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,800
younger man, you know, psychics have been around my life

1480
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,960
most of my life, and it's cultural with being Latino,

1481
01:14:32,359 --> 01:14:34,760
so it was just a thing. And early in my

1482
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,479
early twenties, I was I just had to talk to

1483
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,199
them constantly because I wanted to know what was coming,

1484
01:14:40,279 --> 01:14:42,800
what was coming. I was so fearful, what's coming, What's coming?

1485
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,279
When am I going to make it big? When am

1486
01:14:44,319 --> 01:14:46,279
I going to do this? That's how I met Connie originally.

1487
01:14:47,239 --> 01:14:50,960
What's gonna happen, What's gonna happen, What's gonna happen where now?

1488
01:14:51,039 --> 01:14:53,760
I truly don't want to know, like I mean, And

1489
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:58,039
I have a hell of a of a of a

1490
01:14:58,119 --> 01:15:01,760
rolodex of mediums, some of the best in the world.

1491
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 2: I never I have not to want up you, but

1492
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,159
I have a bunch of psychic larges.

1493
01:15:05,359 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: There you go.

1494
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,279
Speaker 2: But my point is, but their mediums is a good start.

1495
01:15:13,399 --> 01:15:16,520
Speaker 1: This is christ you. But the point is that I

1496
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,960
don't reach out to them because I don't think I

1497
01:15:20,039 --> 01:15:22,439
need that anymore. I don't. I honestly don't want to know.

1498
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,800
And sometimes I'll get information I'm like, well, this is

1499
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:25,800
what's gonna happen in your show?

1500
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, and that's probably because somewhere in your soul,

1501
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:33,279
you know, the measurement of success externally and financially and

1502
01:15:33,359 --> 01:15:37,560
fame isn't the highest calling. I don't care like it's

1503
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:41,640
more like what i'd ask a psychic. Although there is

1504
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,760
a joy in just being in surrender and being in

1505
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,039
the awe now, but what am I going to release?

1506
01:15:46,079 --> 01:15:48,640
What am I going to become? What does God want

1507
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:50,880
for me, but I'll also find out, so.

1508
01:15:51,239 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: You're gonna get there anyway. But so the person that's

1509
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,920
looking for that reassurance is someone who's scared and someone

1510
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,000
who's fearful because you because if.

1511
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,239
Speaker 2: You, which just means almost all of the world is

1512
01:16:01,359 --> 01:16:04,279
just scared. Well most of that's this reality thing is

1513
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:05,399
just everyone's scared.

1514
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 1: Everyone's terrified. Everyone's terrified. That's all the time.

1515
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but sight interact.

1516
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 1: But that's the point. Every this whole reality is based

1517
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,560
on fear. Fear of being eaten by a tiger, fear

1518
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:19,199
being fired, being feared, not being loved, fear. It's all fear. Yeah,

1519
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,840
it's the ones who are not living in that world.

1520
01:16:23,039 --> 01:16:26,760
You can't have fear without time, that's true. You cannot

1521
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,319
have fear without time's true. Yes, because you're only afraid

1522
01:16:29,319 --> 01:16:30,239
of what's because you're.

1523
01:16:30,119 --> 01:16:33,039
Speaker 2: Not saying what's going to happen right now, right and

1524
01:16:33,079 --> 01:16:35,760
when there's someone, when there's actually your house is literally

1525
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,720
on fire, there's a gun man, your body actually kicks

1526
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,760
in the fight or flight, so you totally don't need

1527
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,560
fear at all. In other words, the ability to whatever

1528
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,399
fight or flight if someone jumps out at you or

1529
01:16:46,399 --> 01:16:50,119
tiger is there or whatever is encoded in your body naturally.

1530
01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:52,479
So so I have to think about a tiger potentially

1531
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,600
eating Yeah, Like, do you ever have it where you're

1532
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,560
you know, you're driving in your car and you're on

1533
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,359
the freeway, you turn, you turn back in the car front,

1534
01:16:59,399 --> 01:17:02,439
you stopped, and you slam on the brakes. Right now,

1535
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,960
your body knew what to do. Now, imagine if you

1536
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,760
were given a two month heads up that this moment

1537
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,720
was coming. Imagine if you were Oh my god, you'd

1538
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,560
be in your head, you'd be in fight or flight,

1539
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,319
your body would be getting exhausted. You'd even probably dislodge

1540
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:20,880
the natural ability to stop it because ego is going

1541
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,119
to be in charge of it versus your natural fight

1542
01:17:24,199 --> 01:17:26,800
or flight that's there and was only needed for two

1543
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,279
seconds to slam on the brakes. So fear is this

1544
01:17:30,399 --> 01:17:34,680
giant anticipation of what's going to happen, whether you're right

1545
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,279
or wrong. And it's also a request for it. In

1546
01:17:37,279 --> 01:17:40,239
other words, you're aiming for it. Yes, And I have

1547
01:17:40,279 --> 01:17:42,760
a solution by the way to fear it. That's really crazy.

1548
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:48,119
I have done some major work with people and discovered

1549
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,600
that there's two ways that the universe is going to

1550
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,199
help you with this fear. Whatever your fear is, there's

1551
01:17:55,239 --> 01:17:56,359
two ways that's going to help you to do it.

1552
01:17:56,359 --> 01:17:58,720
It's either going to make you experience it, because you'll

1553
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,720
let go of it once you experience, Like if you're

1554
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,079
sitting there going what if we divorce? What if we divorce?

1555
01:18:03,159 --> 01:18:06,039
The day after your divorce, you're like, well, that anticipation's done,

1556
01:18:06,279 --> 01:18:08,640
so you can let go of bit. But the other

1557
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,319
thing is the fear comes from in your body. And

1558
01:18:11,359 --> 01:18:13,439
so when I was a younger, I have an eight

1559
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,279
year old daughter, and when I was younger, I had

1560
01:18:16,319 --> 01:18:19,920
a massive fear that was really in my body that

1561
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,359
I would lose her, like in a public place, that

1562
01:18:22,399 --> 01:18:25,920
we'd be in a Disneyland or a Costco, which in

1563
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,039
itself is horrifying, but that I just look away and

1564
01:18:29,079 --> 01:18:31,000
I can't find her. Yeah, man, And I would have

1565
01:18:31,119 --> 01:18:35,760
dreams nightly that I lost her. Right one day, I realized,

1566
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,680
this fear is coming from within, right, this is it's

1567
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,359
coming up. It's coming up because it wants to be seen.

1568
01:18:42,119 --> 01:18:45,479
So I decided to in a meditation. This will sound crazy,

1569
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,439
but let myself experience that she was taken away. Whatever

1570
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,279
it's fearce I'm not trying to manifest it or thinking

1571
01:18:52,319 --> 01:18:54,760
it or putting on a vision board. I listen and

1572
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,680
it just goes. This is what I'm scared of. It's

1573
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,159
a pattern. Scared, it's a pattern. Scared that I'll fail

1574
01:18:59,199 --> 01:19:00,880
as a dad, that I do it wrong, that I lost,

1575
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,760
It'll be my fault that I don't have my daughter.

1576
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,479
I just sat there and listened, and I watched as

1577
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,239
I felt it. I literally said, even in the dream

1578
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,239
and the vision, goodbye to my daughter. Then I cried

1579
01:19:14,319 --> 01:19:17,479
out a false viv that I had been holding onto,

1580
01:19:18,159 --> 01:19:21,119
and I released her, and all of a sudden, I

1581
01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:24,359
felt like the five year old me that's trying to

1582
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,119
keep everything together so I'm not in trouble, died with it,

1583
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,720
And all of a sudden I had a presence. And

1584
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,680
guess what did that make it more likely for her

1585
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,359
to get stolen? No, I'm a million times more present.

1586
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,560
I'm not in my egoic. You know the people that

1587
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,920
are scared of getting in crashes, and they crash every week.

1588
01:19:42,399 --> 01:19:42,560
Speaker 1: You know.

1589
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:44,399
Speaker 2: I have friends that are like, I have a thing

1590
01:19:44,399 --> 01:19:45,319
where I'm scared all crash.

1591
01:19:45,399 --> 01:19:45,600
Speaker 1: Dude.

1592
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,279
Speaker 2: They call me once a week. They just got in

1593
01:19:47,319 --> 01:19:50,720
a crash like it's like because your egoic self is

1594
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,479
trying to run it and you're not in surrender, and

1595
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,920
the surrender you can do it so much more than

1596
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,960
the control you. Right, So if you have a fear

1597
01:20:00,199 --> 01:20:02,319
something this sounds weird, let it happen.

1598
01:20:04,039 --> 01:20:06,520
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1599
01:20:10,159 --> 01:20:11,720
and now back to the show.

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01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:17,119
Speaker 2: The fear just wants to be seen. So you can

1601
01:20:17,159 --> 01:20:20,520
either keep repressing it with addictions and distractions and life

1602
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,560
will make you see it externally, or you take a

1603
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,319
deep breath and you let your deepest fear happen. That

1604
01:20:26,399 --> 01:20:29,800
you're homeless, that nobody likes you, that you know you're

1605
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,960
attacked by the world, that you die, you will discover

1606
01:20:33,119 --> 01:20:35,800
that the one that's scared is holding an avatar of

1607
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,760
those things happening. Like in other words, it's like a dream,

1608
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,960
like the person in the dream isn't actually you because

1609
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,239
the person across is also in your dream. They're all

1610
01:20:45,279 --> 01:20:49,039
existing in you. Same with life, you're not actually worried

1611
01:20:49,039 --> 01:20:51,920
about the person outside of you doing something. You have

1612
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:55,960
a world inside of you that's a false world that's

1613
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,560
trying to die. And if you can get really present

1614
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,159
your deepest fears will not just come up and then

1615
01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:03,800
you numb it a little. They leave, and all of

1616
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,800
a sudden you realize you were not only carrying an

1617
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,520
egoic self that was going to fail, you were also

1618
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,600
carrying a world. In other words, there's a world that

1619
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,399
matches the ego itself. If you have an egoic self

1620
01:21:15,399 --> 01:21:17,199
that says, no one's going to like me, you have

1621
01:21:17,319 --> 01:21:19,880
a world for that egoic self to not be wrong

1622
01:21:20,199 --> 01:21:22,840
where everyone doesn't like. In fact, it'll look for those people,

1623
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,880
make it happen. So the more I get really present,

1624
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,119
the more fears come up. I just listen to them.

1625
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:33,239
They come to light, they become realized, and they die.

1626
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:35,840
And then all of a sudden, a much more present

1627
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:40,119
means here with God replacing those things and a much

1628
01:21:40,199 --> 01:21:44,119
higher powerful thing, and those fears don't exist anymore. Isn't

1629
01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:44,600
that nuts?

1630
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:45,359
Speaker 1: It's insane?

1631
01:21:45,399 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 2: And so you start to realize fear was a false

1632
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,359
self that was scared to do it wrong, that would

1633
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,479
get spanked or yelled at by mom or whatever, needing

1634
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,079
to die. And the reason fear is coming up now

1635
01:21:55,159 --> 01:21:58,239
is because it's ready to die. In general, in general,

1636
01:21:58,319 --> 01:22:00,800
if you have fear, What most people do is they

1637
01:22:01,359 --> 01:22:03,680
numb it, they drink, they put pills in whatever. But

1638
01:22:04,199 --> 01:22:07,800
if you let your fear be experienced as you become

1639
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,119
a presence with the now, I believe you just purged

1640
01:22:11,159 --> 01:22:15,199
a world and a potential timeline that now isn't reality.

1641
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,920
And I believe this even happens with external I had

1642
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,439
a woman do work with me that she's so worried

1643
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,840
that we're gonna have this world war and all these things,

1644
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,479
and I let her feel it. She started crying. This

1645
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,439
is on my YouTube channel as me working with the

1646
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,840
trauma therapist. She says, okay, I can't say I love

1647
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,600
you to my daughter, and I let her say that.

1648
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,079
I let her and she just sat and cried it out,

1649
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,840
and all of a sudden, I believe that she's now

1650
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,159
going to see a literal different world, that she's now

1651
01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:45,119
not holding that same world out of fear. Like our

1652
01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:48,840
ego needs to have the same painful world match it.

1653
01:22:49,239 --> 01:22:51,199
You're going to because the number one thing the ego

1654
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,039
can't be is wrong, so it has to be right,

1655
01:22:55,119 --> 01:22:56,920
so it creates a world that mirrors it. And I

1656
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,119
believe as you become present, you purge that world. You

1657
01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:02,720
purge that false world, and it's like it's almost like

1658
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,439
you're on an elevator and you're passing a floor of

1659
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,960
a timeline, and that's my future. But if you keep

1660
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,520
being on the elevator and letting it pass, then now

1661
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,560
this is my future. Now, this is my future. Most

1662
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,960
of us feel the fear and go you guys don't understand,

1663
01:23:16,079 --> 01:23:18,000
go to a therapist, talk about it. This is the

1664
01:23:18,039 --> 01:23:20,840
fear you're grabbing the floor. And the more you resist

1665
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,199
the fear or repress it, the more you're aiming for it.

1666
01:23:24,119 --> 01:23:27,119
Speaker 1: Kle do you agree that. I mean, you said this

1667
01:23:27,199 --> 01:23:29,960
a couple of times that you have to look for

1668
01:23:30,039 --> 01:23:35,560
the answers within, and most people look for answers outside.

1669
01:23:35,039 --> 01:23:38,319
Speaker 2: Of yourselves for everything. Yes, so they repress the fear

1670
01:23:39,039 --> 01:23:41,640
with the external solution. I'm scared, I'll go broke. Oh good,

1671
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,560
I have money. The fear still there, it's just under

1672
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:44,760
the money, right.

1673
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,399
Speaker 1: And then so then some of these billionaires are really terrified.

1674
01:23:47,399 --> 01:23:49,319
Speaker 2: They are they're totally terrified.

1675
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:52,279
Speaker 1: And I'd imagine like, if you've been broke all your

1676
01:23:52,279 --> 01:23:55,319
life and you get a little bit of money, you're

1677
01:23:55,359 --> 01:23:58,479
afraid of losing it. Yeah, if you're you've been broke

1678
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:02,720
and then you have twenty billion dollars. I've heard of

1679
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,640
that from from people that have worked with that. I've

1680
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:09,199
worked with that've said, I have billionaire clients who are

1681
01:24:10,319 --> 01:24:13,239
terrified of everything.

1682
01:24:13,359 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, I tower in a sea of eight billion

1683
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,000
people that you know.

1684
01:24:17,199 --> 01:24:21,239
Speaker 1: And they're terrified of losing twenty half of it, Like,

1685
01:24:22,119 --> 01:24:24,479
how can I live with only ten billion dollars? Yeah?

1686
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,439
How can I live with only a billion dollars? Like

1687
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:26,960
that's insane.

1688
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,039
Speaker 2: They're usually telling someone on food stamps how horrified they are.

1689
01:24:30,159 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 1: Right, I think it was I forgot. I think it was.

1690
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:35,319
I forgot what the comedian was. I don't know if

1691
01:24:35,319 --> 01:24:38,720
it's Chris Rock, but he said he's like it was

1692
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,960
Chris Rock. He's like, you know Oprah, right, Oprah's rich,

1693
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,359
but if Bill Gates woke up with Oprah money, he'd

1694
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:47,319
kill himself.

1695
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:52,079
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, because you're acclimated to oh good, I

1696
01:24:52,119 --> 01:24:55,920
am that number. But also there's people that believe money

1697
01:24:55,920 --> 01:25:00,079
equals freedom, and what that means is you don't so

1698
01:25:00,319 --> 01:25:03,640
I have my freedom externally, So I lose my freedom

1699
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,239
if this is taken away. So I got to guard it.

1700
01:25:06,279 --> 01:25:08,920
I gotta be protective because I'm so scared because it's

1701
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,119
still not me, Like, I'd rather my soul equal freedom,

1702
01:25:12,279 --> 01:25:14,760
I'd rather my soul equal safety. I'd rather my sole

1703
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,159
equal protection. No one can take that away.

1704
01:25:17,319 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you look at the but you look at the

1705
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,079
masters man. Even if you look at yogis who are

1706
01:25:22,159 --> 01:25:24,840
meditating in a cave, which are it's an extreme version

1707
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:29,600
of this conversation. But they're not afraid of any of that. No,

1708
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,479
they're not even afraid of not having food because they

1709
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,600
go the universe will provide for me and they and

1710
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,800
someone will show up with food or they'll get food.

1711
01:25:37,119 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: Because the idea that you have money means you're enough

1712
01:25:40,199 --> 01:25:44,920
doesn't actually make logical sense, right, So what makes sense

1713
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,640
that you get to a place where you get your

1714
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,520
enoughness is in you. It has to actually be that way,

1715
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,439
not just a fun quote that you can get on

1716
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,000
a sign at a cracker barrel. I'm saying, like, you

1717
01:25:54,079 --> 01:25:55,479
gotta get that.

1718
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: The old cockle barrel, the new cracker barrel, the other

1719
01:25:58,880 --> 01:25:59,760
one that went back to got it.

1720
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that you got to get that. You yourself has to

1721
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:09,600
be the actual enoughness. And then boy does life mirror that.

1722
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,399
Like in other words, if I get that there's some

1723
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,680
fluke stories of billionaires, but as you said, they're all

1724
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,079
freaking out that they'll lose it anyway. But if you

1725
01:26:17,239 --> 01:26:20,239
finally get to I'm enough and money doesn't make me more,

1726
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,760
now you're safe for money to show up. I mean,

1727
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,920
that's what we want in a relationship. I want to

1728
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:26,920
date someone that's what we think. I want to date

1729
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:32,439
someone who is enough in their wholeness, not someone that's

1730
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,520
absolutely codependent on me or can't stand me. I want

1731
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,640
someone who is in their enoughness. So imagine the universe

1732
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,039
is going when you're enough, I'll take care of everything

1733
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,079
right when you're But if your enoughness is in money

1734
01:26:44,159 --> 01:26:48,199
or a relationship or a fame or that everyone sees you,

1735
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,840
I'm going to ruin that for you because you're you're

1736
01:26:51,119 --> 01:26:54,359
indirectly saying that your enoughness is based on something that

1737
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,960
was separate from you, which doesn't make any logical sense anyway.

1738
01:26:58,319 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 1: There's jun Tim Fersush, Yeah, yeah, Tim, so Tim. Tim

1739
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:06,279
a huge fan of Tim's work and what he's done

1740
01:27:06,319 --> 01:27:08,640
over the years. His book is one of the reasons

1741
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,920
I even started a podcast four Hour work Week. It

1742
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,399
was that book changed my life. When I read it

1743
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:18,119
years and years ago, but Tim said something was really

1744
01:27:18,199 --> 01:27:21,479
interesting years ago. I never forgot it. He's like, you know,

1745
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,680
I was really afraid of, you know, going broke. He

1746
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,119
had that fear. And he's a very wealthy man, but

1747
01:27:28,159 --> 01:27:30,119
he was afraid of being broke. He's like, I wonder

1748
01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:33,359
what would happen if I was broke. So to get

1749
01:27:33,399 --> 01:27:37,319
over that fear, he decided to it's an experiment, sleep

1750
01:27:37,359 --> 01:27:40,319
on the floor at night. What would happen if I

1751
01:27:40,359 --> 01:27:42,920
was homeless. I'll stay in my house, but let's.

1752
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 2: Just it's like on a carpet in a mansion.

1753
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,119
Speaker 1: Like don't okay, no, no, but that's literally what he did.

1754
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,680
He literally is like, you know, I want to be uncomfortable.

1755
01:27:52,319 --> 01:27:54,319
I want to learn how to be a little uncomfortable.

1756
01:27:54,399 --> 01:27:56,319
So I'm going to sleep on the floor and I'm

1757
01:27:56,319 --> 01:27:59,880
going to eat beans for the week, just canned beans. Okay,

1758
01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:02,279
because he does that's the let's see how that's the worst.

1759
01:28:02,359 --> 01:28:04,119
Let's say it's the worst I can get. Right now

1760
01:28:04,359 --> 01:28:07,600
that I'm sleeping on the floor and eating beans every

1761
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:11,640
day for a week, to prove to myself that it's

1762
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:15,159
gonna be okay, Yes, to prove to myself so great.

1763
01:28:15,279 --> 01:28:18,199
Isn't that an amazing idea? Yes, like, you know, what

1764
01:28:18,199 --> 01:28:20,720
are you afraid of? Well, let's do that just for

1765
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:25,079
a little bit, to give your ego a taste and go, oh, well,

1766
01:28:25,119 --> 01:28:26,039
this isn't that bad.

1767
01:28:26,119 --> 01:28:29,319
Speaker 2: You know, even I don't. I don't remember that. I mean,

1768
01:28:29,359 --> 01:28:32,079
I read it so long ago. But I'm so curious

1769
01:28:32,079 --> 01:28:35,199
if he got to also feel through the shame, like

1770
01:28:35,239 --> 01:28:38,600
if someone's you know, there's that, does that really believe

1771
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,399
you're homeless? If you came out of.

1772
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,560
Speaker 1: Someone who saw you in from high school or something like,

1773
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:43,359
oh what happened?

1774
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,079
Speaker 2: I remember Neil Donald Walsh had a movie version of

1775
01:28:47,119 --> 01:28:50,239
his book Conversation You probably.

1776
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't have it. There's reasons, but yeah.

1777
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 2: There's just a scene where he's just sitting at a

1778
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,399
dumpster like eating a sandwich someone dropped in there, and

1779
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,000
I'm crying in my eyes. I know him too. I'm

1780
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:05,119
sure he's yeah, of course, but like you know, you're

1781
01:29:05,159 --> 01:29:08,680
just feeling for him, but I'm feeling for the embarrassment,

1782
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,319
the shame, the feeling of I didn't provide.

1783
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,079
Speaker 1: That was you know, there's when he lived in that

1784
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:17,800
homeless camp. Yeah, that that thing was rough man. Yeah,

1785
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,399
like watching that movie with him when he and then

1786
01:29:20,399 --> 01:29:22,520
he finally got like he was in like a halfway

1787
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,239
house or something when he started writing Conversations with God.

1788
01:29:25,239 --> 01:29:27,520
He barely had a job. He had a job, but

1789
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:28,319
barely had enough to do.

1790
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,199
Speaker 2: And isn't remember of that part too, when he started

1791
01:29:30,199 --> 01:29:32,319
getting a job at the radio and then they saw

1792
01:29:32,399 --> 01:29:35,279
him with another homeless guy that was harassing them. Now

1793
01:29:35,319 --> 01:29:36,920
there was there's a scene where he starts to get

1794
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,840
a job at a radio station and they start to

1795
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:41,560
like him, and he's kind of tricked them that he's

1796
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,119
not homeless, right, and then they're at a restaurant. He's

1797
01:29:44,119 --> 01:29:46,920
sitting outside and he sees the woman that hired him,

1798
01:29:47,359 --> 01:29:49,800
and then like a homeless person comes in and is

1799
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,439
drunk and inappropriate with her, and he loses his job,

1800
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:57,239
and then later writes Conversations with God. So that thing

1801
01:29:57,279 --> 01:30:01,479
that he almost got might have almost him from from

1802
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:02,760
getting conversations.

1803
01:30:02,279 --> 01:30:04,199
Speaker 1: Because he had to go he had to go through

1804
01:30:04,239 --> 01:30:06,239
that in order to get to the point where he

1805
01:30:06,279 --> 01:30:10,520
starts yelling at God, yes, we'll be right back after

1806
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:17,279
a word from our sponsor and now back to the show.

1807
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,520
Speaker 2: You feel that like so like It threw him off

1808
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,079
course because it was taken him to conversations with God.

1809
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,119
If he had just got the radio, he had just

1810
01:30:26,119 --> 01:30:28,239
got a studio apartment, been good enough, but we wouldn't

1811
01:30:28,279 --> 01:30:29,760
have all read conversations with God.

1812
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: So you know the story of you know my story

1813
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,159
of like the dark Time, the darkest time in my

1814
01:30:35,199 --> 01:30:38,279
life with the movie right the would you the mob movie?

1815
01:30:38,359 --> 01:30:43,079
I do? But remind me so, I'm twenty and anyone

1816
01:30:43,279 --> 01:30:44,760
if they want to watch, they can read the book

1817
01:30:45,039 --> 01:30:47,640
or listen to it on next level sol TV. I

1818
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,000
was twenty six, got hired by an ex mobster to

1819
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,920
tell a story of his life, and then it was

1820
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,520
a twenty million dollar movie. I spent the year with

1821
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,560
him at a racetrack that's where our production offices were.

1822
01:31:00,079 --> 01:31:01,800
He threatened my life on a daily basis. By the

1823
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:03,680
time I realized what was going on, I was in

1824
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,920
and I couldn't get out because of fear, and I

1825
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:07,880
was life. It was the most traumatic.

1826
01:31:08,039 --> 01:31:10,199
Speaker 2: Well, you were like, I can't if I get him out,

1827
01:31:10,199 --> 01:31:11,319
If I get out, I'll be killed.

1828
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, the threatening, life threatening conversation. So I

1829
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,319
was like going to work with Joe Pesci from goodfellas,

1830
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,439
like one day, like one moment, he is the funniest,

1831
01:31:21,159 --> 01:31:23,800
greatest guy to be hanging around with. Are you Am

1832
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:25,640
I a clown? Am I clown? How do I amuse you?

1833
01:31:26,279 --> 01:31:28,199
It was that and I was not at twenty six

1834
01:31:28,279 --> 01:31:32,239
prepared for any of that wow mentally anything. So I

1835
01:31:32,319 --> 01:31:36,399
was basically just basically Hamburger meet for a year and

1836
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,039
then to add to kind of add a little bit

1837
01:31:39,039 --> 01:31:41,880
more flavor to it. Then I I'm being flown out

1838
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,800
to La and I'm meeting, you know, the producers of

1839
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:49,119
the matrix. I'm meeting the biggest, you know, billion dollar producers.

1840
01:31:49,119 --> 01:31:51,960
I'm meeting the biggest movie stars in the world at

1841
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,239
their houses about being in this project. So like Hollywood

1842
01:31:55,239 --> 01:31:56,760
took them here. I'm at the Chateau my mom. I'm

1843
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:59,640
at the Ivy, I'm at Spago. I'm doing all. I'm

1844
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,840
twenty I'm going along this insane ride for a year,

1845
01:32:04,079 --> 01:32:09,439
going back and forth, back and forth, and while my

1846
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,760
life is being threatened till finally at the very end

1847
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:13,319
of it, and I'm not.

1848
01:32:13,319 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 2: Getting paid well if at all.

1849
01:32:15,319 --> 01:32:18,600
Speaker 1: So I'm like just you know, just money, money, money

1850
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,880
out in credit card, credit card, credit card, till finally

1851
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:22,720
he lets me go. At the end, He's like, you know,

1852
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:24,159
a kid's not gonna work out. I'm gonna have to

1853
01:32:24,239 --> 01:32:26,840
let you go. And then I'm just tossed into the

1854
01:32:27,159 --> 01:32:29,960
just tossed into the world, a shell of who I

1855
01:32:30,079 --> 01:32:34,079
used to be. Might imagine being so close to your dreams,

1856
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,199
being this close to the biggest movie star in the

1857
01:32:37,199 --> 01:32:39,479
world at the time, saying hey, I want to work

1858
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,880
with you, and it's gone. That's like worse than not

1859
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,560
ever getting in the room at all. So going through

1860
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,920
that whole I mean, right, I'd rather have not dated

1861
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,720
the hot girl, like I don't want to. I didn't

1862
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:53,760
want to, you know, I didn't want to have that experience,

1863
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:55,880
you know what I mean. So you're in that world.

1864
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:59,159
So then I'm thrown out into the world. I'm broke,

1865
01:33:00,239 --> 01:33:04,239
my girlfriend leaves me, my dog dies. I mean, it's

1866
01:33:04,319 --> 01:33:05,920
like it was like all sorts of I mean, it

1867
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,680
was like I was at the lowest point of my life.

1868
01:33:09,399 --> 01:33:11,800
And though I never felt I was going to go

1869
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,760
homeless because I have a family who loves me, but

1870
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:16,520
I kept all of this from them. They didn't know

1871
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,760
until I read wrote the book seventeen years later. Did

1872
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:23,079
they realized what happened, and I was three days away

1873
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:27,640
from signing bankruptcy paperwork because I had to protect myself.

1874
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,159
I had to. So this is my Neil Donald Walsh

1875
01:33:30,199 --> 01:33:34,760
moment where I'd literally sit down in my house and

1876
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:38,920
I yell out to God and I go, I want

1877
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,720
to pay my debts, but if you don't help me

1878
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,720
get a job because I couldn't get work. It was

1879
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:48,039
so bad, dude, I went back to Hollywood Video. I'm

1880
01:33:48,079 --> 01:33:50,920
a professional, I've been I'm twenty seven at this point.

1881
01:33:51,119 --> 01:33:53,000
I went back to Hollywood Video to become a video

1882
01:33:53,039 --> 01:33:54,880
store clerk because that's the only thing on my resume

1883
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:56,319
that I could do.

1884
01:33:56,399 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 2: Because I was bad that I feel relieved for you, Like,

1885
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:00,600
I'm just like, oh, that sounds like a great job.

1886
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean it would have been, but I would have.

1887
01:34:03,159 --> 01:34:05,239
I went back to the Hollywood Video and I put it

1888
01:34:05,279 --> 01:34:08,119
because I needed a job anything, and I couldn't get

1889
01:34:08,119 --> 01:34:08,960
a job as an editor.

1890
01:34:09,119 --> 01:34:11,159
Speaker 2: Do you know I worked at a Hollywood Video also.

1891
01:34:11,239 --> 01:34:12,399
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm sure you did.

1892
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:16,279
Speaker 2: I didn't. They rejected me, They rejected quality. It was

1893
01:34:16,319 --> 01:34:17,640
not Hollywood anyway.

1894
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,239
Speaker 1: So anyway, so I went there, so I got really

1895
01:34:20,279 --> 01:34:23,119
bad for me. I yelled out to him. I'm like,

1896
01:34:23,119 --> 01:34:24,680
I want to pay my debts, but if you don't

1897
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:26,239
help me, I'm going to sign this paperwork because I

1898
01:34:26,279 --> 01:34:30,680
need to save myself. I need to protect myself. And

1899
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,079
the next day, I get a call from my very

1900
01:34:33,079 --> 01:34:36,279
first boss who gave me my internship, and he goes, hey, Alex,

1901
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,880
they're looking for an editor up in West Palm Beach.

1902
01:34:41,159 --> 01:34:43,399
I already told him about you. Just show up with

1903
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:48,119
your reel and waiting to talk to you. I drove

1904
01:34:48,199 --> 01:34:52,399
up there with a reel show it got the job. Wow,

1905
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,560
And I was a freelancer. Then I got another job

1906
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:58,920
a week later, doing another freelance job, and then I

1907
01:34:59,119 --> 01:35:01,399
slowly started to work my way out of that hole.

1908
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:03,039
Speaker 2: And like I said, I'll work, but.

1909
01:35:03,039 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: I need help. And that was the first time in

1910
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:09,279
my life that I realized, oh, there's someone else watching it,

1911
01:35:09,319 --> 01:35:11,880
because it was just yes, it was just it was

1912
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,359
too much. And then that started the chain of events

1913
01:35:14,399 --> 01:35:18,119
that I eventually left that job and then opened up

1914
01:35:18,159 --> 01:35:20,920
my own post production company and then started doing my

1915
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:22,760
own shows and I did my first movie and I

1916
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:23,439
started doing all this.

1917
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 2: Kind of stuff.

1918
01:35:24,119 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 1: But it all started from that moment. Wow, And if

1919
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,279
I wouldn't have gone through that trauma, which then, by

1920
01:35:29,279 --> 01:35:31,479
the way, held I held onto that trauma for seventeen

1921
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:34,000
years that I didn't know I was. I pushed it

1922
01:35:34,079 --> 01:35:38,239
so far down that I didn't realize I had that

1923
01:35:38,319 --> 01:35:40,600
I had done that until I wrote the book and

1924
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:44,119
all of it came back up. All of it came

1925
01:35:44,159 --> 01:35:46,680
back up, and I was like crying while I was writing,

1926
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:49,159
and I'm like, oh my god. And then I started

1927
01:35:49,159 --> 01:35:51,079
looking like, oh, this is why every single time I

1928
01:35:51,079 --> 01:35:53,279
got in the room and I almost got a movie

1929
01:35:53,279 --> 01:35:55,920
made the way I wanted to it fall apart. It

1930
01:35:56,319 --> 01:35:59,600
was constant. It's constant decade of that decade to almost

1931
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,079
two decade that I was like, bo, I'm in the room,

1932
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:04,479
you know, the feeling, I'm in the room. I'm good

1933
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:06,560
enough to be in the room. Why am I not?

1934
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,199
Why does something keep stopping me?

1935
01:36:09,359 --> 01:36:10,600
Speaker 2: What's the point of this?

1936
01:36:11,359 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 1: And that's what it was. I was. I had. I

1937
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,920
would not let go of that pain that was like fear.

1938
01:36:17,279 --> 01:36:21,199
Making a movie is painful, yeah, on a subconscious level,

1939
01:36:21,239 --> 01:36:23,520
but on the outside, I was always wanting to make it.

1940
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 2: You know, I I would offer, you know, one thing

1941
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:30,319
that I've learned from doing the work internally and with

1942
01:36:30,359 --> 01:36:34,359
my clients. Is that one of the number one things.

1943
01:36:34,399 --> 01:36:36,159
And first of all, almost every one of my clients

1944
01:36:36,199 --> 01:36:38,920
is an EmPATH. Like they're you know, narcissists don't do

1945
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:39,840
inner work, right.

1946
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're generally narcissist don't generally maybe I should give

1947
01:36:42,199 --> 01:36:43,880
a little bit instead of taking everything.

1948
01:36:44,279 --> 01:36:48,079
Speaker 2: Right, there's no like every every EmPATH I'm trying to

1949
01:36:48,079 --> 01:36:50,239
get them to receive. You don't do that to a narcissist.

1950
01:36:50,279 --> 01:36:51,239
Speaker 1: They've been right.

1951
01:36:51,359 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 2: So people that watch this just know you're probably an EmPATH, right.

1952
01:36:56,439 --> 01:37:01,119
And the number one thing I find is the as

1953
01:37:01,239 --> 01:37:03,600
the belief that's in them that we got to work

1954
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:06,600
on is I have to do it all myself. Because

1955
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:09,239
an EmPATH ends up in a relationship, usually with a narcissist,

1956
01:37:09,359 --> 01:37:12,520
or they end up just they became that way because

1957
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:14,159
they got to take care of everyone else. So they

1958
01:37:14,199 --> 01:37:16,600
know what people feel. So they do all the stuff

1959
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:18,520
and they do it all themselves, and they're also the

1960
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,119
most resentful no one helps them. They're the ones that

1961
01:37:21,239 --> 01:37:22,800
they both say, I got to do it all myself,

1962
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,880
and then no one helps them. The number one thing

1963
01:37:25,159 --> 01:37:29,680
I have empaths say is this literally and it breaks patterns.

1964
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,720
Like I worked with the guy yesterday on our Out

1965
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,000
with the Old, In with the Now course, I had

1966
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:38,439
this guy say he was like he was talking about

1967
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,760
his problems and I literally had to make him say

1968
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,319
these words, and I meant to the universe, but I

1969
01:37:43,359 --> 01:37:47,319
had him say please help me, like literally just the

1970
01:37:47,359 --> 01:37:50,239
act of please help me. And I watched as just

1971
01:37:50,399 --> 01:37:54,840
that like brought some energetic shift where some higher frequency

1972
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:56,640
open them up and the one that has to do

1973
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:59,159
it all himself had to die a little bit. And

1974
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:01,920
I didn't do this for me, but I'm like, literally,

1975
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,159
it's like it's almost like empaths want help, but they

1976
01:38:05,199 --> 01:38:07,640
it kills their pattern that does it all themselves. So

1977
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:09,760
it's like they're going into the surgery room but they're

1978
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:11,560
trying to run it and they are one foot out

1979
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:15,239
and they don't receive. They don't receive right. And the

1980
01:38:15,359 --> 01:38:18,800
you that was probably kicking butt with the but also

1981
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:22,119
in this bizarre position with the mob, you know did

1982
01:38:22,119 --> 01:38:23,800
it all yourself and has to do it right, and

1983
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,239
you hold it all and the second you were about

1984
01:38:26,279 --> 01:38:29,560
to sign bankruptcy papers and you ask God that was

1985
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,439
that was a like that's in the song that was

1986
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:36,319
a cold and a broken hallelujah. You know the song Hallelujah,

1987
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:39,119
Like it's like they I love that song because they

1988
01:38:39,119 --> 01:38:44,800
say it's not it's not somebody. It's not a cry

1989
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:47,079
you hear at night. It's not somebody who's seen the light.

1990
01:38:47,399 --> 01:38:49,319
It's a cold and it's.

1991
01:38:49,079 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 1: A broken hallelujah.

1992
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:57,039
Speaker 2: What are they saying, Oh, it's that you get God

1993
01:38:57,079 --> 01:38:59,680
when you're in that low you have and it's and

1994
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,079
it's down to Okay, I'm going to go through this

1995
01:39:02,199 --> 01:39:05,000
humiliating thing. It's humiliating to my character and pattern that

1996
01:39:05,039 --> 01:39:06,760
says who I am is what I achieve and how

1997
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:09,479
much money I make and my success. So I'm going

1998
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:11,439
to ask God. And by asking God, I'm going to

1999
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:16,000
kill the one who's identified with I am this bankruptcy

2000
01:39:16,039 --> 01:39:19,680
paperwork or my solution to it. When you surrendered, you

2001
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:23,359
killed the one who was identified with that, which made

2002
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:27,479
room for the energetic response because if you were going

2003
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:32,279
to sign that paperwork, you were heading towards that because

2004
01:39:32,279 --> 01:39:35,520
that was what you were identified as. So that one

2005
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:39,000
was about to sign the paperwork, and had you not

2006
01:39:39,159 --> 01:39:41,279
asked for God, I truly believe there's a good chance

2007
01:39:41,279 --> 01:39:44,920
you wouldn't have got the call because that guy is

2008
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,520
not able to receive money because the ego was in

2009
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:50,399
charge of making the money, not God. And the second

2010
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:53,840
you went God, help me come in here, you were

2011
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:58,520
letting your control of your money situation die and you

2012
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:02,600
handed it to God. And that's why everything is given

2013
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:03,119
to God.

2014
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 1: To me. Will be right back after a word from

2015
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:13,000
our sponsor, and now back to the show.

2016
01:40:15,119 --> 01:40:18,199
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, this relationships falling apart? God, would you help

2017
01:40:18,239 --> 01:40:19,800
me with this? God might show up by being like

2018
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,119
I'm going to actually knock it out quicker.

2019
01:40:22,199 --> 01:40:24,640
Speaker 1: Right, like sometimes like a little bit mercy.

2020
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've had times where I'm like, this friendship's falling apart, God,

2021
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:29,319
could you help me? And God's like, yeah, I'm gonna

2022
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:33,119
make them disappear instantly. And then you go, oh, I

2023
01:40:33,199 --> 01:40:37,079
actually didn't like them. Like I've noticed something really interesting.

2024
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:40,600
The people in my life that I'm worried will leave

2025
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:43,880
my life are all people that when they do, I'm relieved.

2026
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 1: The people that's beautiful.

2027
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:48,520
Speaker 2: Isn't that weird? The people you're worried will fall or

2028
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,720
they might judge you, that's because you know they judge you,

2029
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:52,079
and they do, you know, they have problems with you,

2030
01:40:52,159 --> 01:40:55,920
interesting because like I would never feel like Alex has

2031
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:57,560
a problem with me, and if we do, will talk

2032
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:00,279
about it absolutely. But I just know, like in a

2033
01:41:00,359 --> 01:41:02,119
not weird way, you love all of me. And I

2034
01:41:02,159 --> 01:41:03,800
have some friends that I just know that I would

2035
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,800
never worry that they don't like me. But the ones

2036
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:10,840
that I'm listening about are people that eventually it's like, actually, no,

2037
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,359
it's good. It's like Tina Turner worried Ike is mad

2038
01:41:13,399 --> 01:41:15,880
at her. It's like, it's good. When he's gone, you're

2039
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:19,119
gonna be You'll be more successful. It's gonna work out

2040
01:41:19,159 --> 01:41:20,960
for you to Yeah, and he's not around. But isn't

2041
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:23,760
that story fascinating? And by the way, in my life,

2042
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:25,760
I have a thing called the Ike and Tina Turner

2043
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,720
test for people watching. If you don't know, I take

2044
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,680
Ike Turner was who Tina Turner was originally with both

2045
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,560
as a husband and a musician. I Turner presented to

2046
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,359
Tina Turner, You're lucky to have me, right, He kept

2047
01:41:37,399 --> 01:41:39,520
all the money and said, you're nothing without.

2048
01:41:39,319 --> 01:41:41,000
Speaker 1: Definition of a beast relationship.

2049
01:41:41,359 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 2: And all the whole position is you're you're lucky to

2050
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,119
have me, but you can look at nothing without me.

2051
01:41:46,159 --> 01:41:47,039
Speaker 1: You're yeah, you're not.

2052
01:41:47,279 --> 01:41:50,159
Speaker 2: You're nothing without me. And there's this thing that happens.

2053
01:41:50,199 --> 01:41:52,039
I've had people in my life that tell me that.

2054
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:54,079
I've had people come in and tell me you got

2055
01:41:54,119 --> 01:41:55,800
to market this way and you need to do it

2056
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,479
this way, and you're nothing without me. And then they

2057
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:01,479
position themselves as they have Kyle Cec. They're on my stage,

2058
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:03,720
they're doing all this stuff, and I realized, oh, they

2059
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:07,119
need me. You get what I'm saying, and and I go,

2060
01:42:07,319 --> 01:42:10,560
I needed Tina. Yeah, Ike needed Tina. Tina did not

2061
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:14,079
need was being abused at one point so much that

2062
01:42:14,199 --> 01:42:18,039
she finally let that low be I'm going to leave this.

2063
01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:21,039
Even though she didn't have the foresight we have of

2064
01:42:21,079 --> 01:42:23,159
what she was going to be. She just saw she's

2065
01:42:23,279 --> 01:42:26,840
leaving the fame of Proud Mary and Ike and Tina Turner,

2066
01:42:27,079 --> 01:42:29,199
and she had no idea what she'd be next. But

2067
01:42:29,319 --> 01:42:32,119
she left. And when she left, she said to the judge,

2068
01:42:32,159 --> 01:42:33,880
I don't want any money, I just want the name.

2069
01:42:34,239 --> 01:42:37,640
And then in that leap, she became Tina f and

2070
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:41,960
Turner and I collapsed. So I have in my thing

2071
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,520
when people are like, oh, you're nothing without me, I

2072
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:46,600
think to myself, would I become Tina Turner if I

2073
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,960
left this person? Like, I what was this like? Am

2074
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,960
I holding up the ike energy that makes me think

2075
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:56,800
that I'm you know? And really the people that have

2076
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,560
left my life were people that actually had intense control

2077
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:01,840
over me and wanted me to be what they wanted

2078
01:43:02,079 --> 01:43:04,600
and were mad at me that I wasn't what they wanted.

2079
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:07,640
And when I finally let go, like I was just free,

2080
01:43:08,239 --> 01:43:09,800
and then all of a sudden, they say, oh, I

2081
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:11,159
didn't want you in my life, and then they're just

2082
01:43:11,399 --> 01:43:14,720
talking about me more. It's just like, oh, like I

2083
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,479
see like I did. Yeah, Like I like she was

2084
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:18,119
nothing without me.

2085
01:43:18,399 --> 01:43:19,359
Speaker 1: I don't well her.

2086
01:43:19,399 --> 01:43:21,279
Speaker 2: So there's what's love got to do with That's proven

2087
01:43:21,279 --> 01:43:21,560
you wrong.

2088
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:23,560
Speaker 1: So so when when she did, what's love got to

2089
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:27,800
do with it? She was like I think, wasn't she forty?

2090
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,319
Speaker 2: Yes? She was like forty. I think more than that,

2091
01:43:30,399 --> 01:43:32,359
Like when she I mean she died at like.

2092
01:43:32,359 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 1: Eighty no, yeah, So that means in the.

2093
01:43:34,399 --> 01:43:36,279
Speaker 2: Forty in the eighties, she was forty.

2094
01:43:36,359 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 1: She was at least forty. Yeah, And to be a

2095
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:43,399
pop star star in the eighties, yeah, at forty is

2096
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:46,039
it's unheard of. Yeah, it's just unheard of.

2097
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:49,159
Speaker 2: What she did and became so legendary in that release.

2098
01:43:49,319 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 1: And then then that one song did it for her.

2099
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:54,199
But then she just had this career that would not yeah,

2100
01:43:54,359 --> 01:43:56,800
give up, right, And there's a scene in that movie

2101
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:58,760
What's Love Got to Do with It? If you guys,

2102
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:01,880
if people haven't seen it, it's an amazing film with

2103
01:44:02,119 --> 01:44:06,119
Larry Fishburne is Ike. Yeah, and then Angela Bassaid is

2104
01:44:06,199 --> 01:44:09,640
Dina when she's about to go on and this is

2105
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:12,720
a it's a very crucial moment. It's the moment she's

2106
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:16,560
going to do a live version of what at the

2107
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:19,119
Grammys or something of What Dreams at the end exactly,

2108
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:22,000
And she's in the dressing room and Ike shows up

2109
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:26,560
and it's like this final test, are you? And he

2110
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:28,960
had a gun and he had a gun with him,

2111
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:30,680
like I'm going to take.

2112
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:33,279
Speaker 2: You out there. It's her final it's.

2113
01:44:33,119 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 1: Her final test because if she cracks, then it's all

2114
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:41,079
for nothing. It's all for nothing. If she cracks, then.

2115
01:44:41,039 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 2: I fear can get her.

2116
01:44:42,039 --> 01:44:45,159
Speaker 1: But he had the gun there and he was threatening

2117
01:44:45,159 --> 01:44:46,960
her and he's like, what are you going to do?

2118
01:44:47,079 --> 01:44:49,479
And she just stood up to him.

2119
01:44:49,199 --> 01:44:51,520
Speaker 2: And what then he just you can kill me, Ike

2120
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:52,000
if you want.

2121
01:44:52,079 --> 01:44:56,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm already I'm already gone. I'm already done. It's over.

2122
01:44:57,039 --> 01:45:00,000
And she walked right by him and went back on stage.

2123
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,960
She sung her heart out just thinking about it.

2124
01:45:03,039 --> 01:45:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had no idea how spiritual that movie is.

2125
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:07,560
Speaker 1: That is and then she and she became a Buddhist

2126
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:09,840
and she found a lot of help in Buddhism to

2127
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,760
get into her She found that was her path. Dude.

2128
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:14,720
Speaker 2: I saw her live when she was like seventy, and

2129
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:17,359
it was unbelievable. She was like, she was incredible. But

2130
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:21,960
that is this that was her leaving the energetic weight

2131
01:45:22,239 --> 01:45:25,720
that a past her would take on and stay in

2132
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,520
a relationship with someone like Ike Turner, Like she had

2133
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,279
an energetic field that told her in her twenties probably

2134
01:45:31,319 --> 01:45:33,920
that she's not worth that much and so that would

2135
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,239
keep her in that thing. But when she made the

2136
01:45:36,319 --> 01:45:40,359
leap that her died too. And that's why she started

2137
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,039
despite the fact she had all that abuse, all that trauma,

2138
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:46,000
she started getting younger and younger as she got older

2139
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:46,760
and older.

2140
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, it's amazing. That's why I.

2141
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:52,119
Speaker 2: Think that, you know, dude, when we're recording this right now.

2142
01:45:52,159 --> 01:45:54,720
It's three days after Dick Van Dyke's one hundredth birthday.

2143
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:56,720
I don't know if you knows that. Yes, and Dick

2144
01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:00,640
Van Dyke, who's just been light in love, so you know,

2145
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:04,079
I've looked it up, had battled with major alcoholism, all

2146
01:46:04,159 --> 01:46:07,039
kinds of dark shadows, huge, but then let go of

2147
01:46:07,079 --> 01:46:09,479
it and got freer. And that blew my mind because

2148
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:12,199
like I think that we think like illness and crhosis

2149
01:46:12,199 --> 01:46:15,000
of the liver and darkness is from alcohol. It is,

2150
01:46:15,239 --> 01:46:18,079
but I think more it's from frequency. I think I

2151
01:46:18,119 --> 01:46:22,239
think that he you can heal yourself vibrationally. And I

2152
01:46:22,279 --> 01:46:25,079
believe that he always was truly a light and probably

2153
01:46:25,159 --> 01:46:27,000
just got stuck in hard times like we all go

2154
01:46:27,079 --> 01:46:31,760
through that dark numming soul. And and he's still dancing

2155
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:36,159
and moving around and happy, joy and and and I

2156
01:46:36,199 --> 01:46:38,279
don't know where he is when this is out, but

2157
01:46:38,319 --> 01:46:40,760
I'm just blown away that you know, he hit a

2158
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:44,359
hundred and and so you can measure it's not like, oh,

2159
01:46:44,399 --> 01:46:46,199
he had the perfect he never drank.

2160
01:46:46,359 --> 01:46:48,640
Speaker 1: Or you know, he had a rough, had rough today

2161
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:51,600
it's vibrational. I really believe we were just talking about

2162
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:54,279
there's two directors right now who are making two movies.

2163
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:59,039
Clint Easwood's directing a movie right now and mel Brooks

2164
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,119
is direct Space Balls too, like Mien to late nineties,

2165
01:47:03,119 --> 01:47:04,439
both the Thing ninety six.

2166
01:47:04,279 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 2: Both of them. Yeah, that's that's crazy.

2167
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 1: It's insane.

2168
01:47:08,319 --> 01:47:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is so bad. I can't sit through an

2169
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:15,079
Eagles concert like forty eight.

2170
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:18,319
Speaker 1: Sorry, So I wanted to I wanted to get your

2171
01:47:18,359 --> 01:47:21,159
take man on twenty twenty six, because we've been talking

2172
01:47:21,239 --> 01:47:24,920
a lot about energy and fibration and frequency and what

2173
01:47:25,199 --> 01:47:27,199
you know, holding onto the past and fear and all

2174
01:47:27,199 --> 01:47:29,399
this kind of stuff on a that and we've been

2175
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:32,159
talking about on a micro level, on the personal level,

2176
01:47:32,199 --> 01:47:37,039
but on a macro level. Yeah, bird's eye view of humanity. Yeah,

2177
01:47:37,119 --> 01:47:41,800
everything we're talking about is it completely is related to

2178
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:44,640
the contr the collective.

2179
01:47:45,239 --> 01:47:47,239
Speaker 2: So the way that I see it, I don't have

2180
01:47:47,359 --> 01:47:49,920
like the predictions like and then this country will take

2181
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,920
over and war. I have it much more like I

2182
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,000
really love to look at the individual and then what

2183
01:47:55,039 --> 01:47:59,079
the macro is as an individual level. So I believe

2184
01:47:59,359 --> 01:48:02,840
that in the past, almost everything that was going on

2185
01:48:03,199 --> 01:48:07,000
was based on false meaning, Like it's false that you

2186
01:48:07,039 --> 01:48:10,399
are what you achieve. It's false that the government has

2187
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:14,760
pure intentions. It's false that, yeah, right, And so what

2188
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:18,680
is happening is the lens of truth. Right, even certain

2189
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:22,399
ways of spirituality that were helpful, could be extra nice,

2190
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:26,000
but burying some truth, meaning like there's some negative energies

2191
01:48:26,039 --> 01:48:28,640
in there. But if you just think positive, we got yeah, yeah,

2192
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:32,159
but there's truth. There's the negative energy stem from abuse

2193
01:48:32,239 --> 01:48:34,680
that's still being held in the body. So this needs

2194
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:36,680
to come to light because it's not what you are.

2195
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,960
So a lot of what you are was designed to

2196
01:48:39,039 --> 01:48:40,960
cover up your trauma. A lot of what you are

2197
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:43,359
was I don't want to look at this. But the

2198
01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:47,600
lens of light is so profound right now that it is,

2199
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:50,279
It is shining deep in your heart and your soul,

2200
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:52,760
and it is saying I got to get everything out

2201
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:56,319
of here. That's not true, that everything. So the idea

2202
01:48:56,359 --> 01:48:58,560
that I'm not enough has to go, The idea that

2203
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,680
I am what I achieve has to go, The idea

2204
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:02,880
that I should be even able to stare into the

2205
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:05,920
future has to go. And the light is almost doubling

2206
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:09,279
every day, not literally, but it's so exponential, yes, that

2207
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:13,760
you cannot act from or be what is false. So

2208
01:49:14,319 --> 01:49:16,399
if you're in a relationship that doesn't align with your

2209
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:18,960
soul and you keep doing it, it'll just be so

2210
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:22,600
freaking heavy. If you're wanting to eat, if your soul

2211
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:24,640
wants to eat healthy, you could eat one chip and

2212
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:27,159
be like, why did I do that? Like going off

2213
01:49:27,239 --> 01:49:31,840
course at all is just going to be so loudly heavy. Yep.

2214
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:33,720
The next thing you got to know is you have

2215
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:37,159
to take in the idea of something really crazy. You're

2216
01:49:37,239 --> 01:49:40,319
just the now. You have to start getting I am

2217
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:44,199
this field, not the one that's against the field. You'll

2218
01:49:44,239 --> 01:49:46,479
notice the number one thing your ego is scared of

2219
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:50,000
is the truth. It's based on falseness. So when you

2220
01:49:50,399 --> 01:49:53,079
say to someone you're not the ten Porsches in your garage,

2221
01:49:53,079 --> 01:49:56,439
they're triggered, But that is still the truth. You're more

2222
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:59,520
than that. You're an infinite, magical being and you're here

2223
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:03,520
to explo that. So imagine that the lens right now

2224
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:06,640
of God is so you can't help it. And you'll

2225
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:09,960
notice that the more you listen to the now, like literally,

2226
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,000
the more you just wake up and listen to silence

2227
01:50:12,039 --> 01:50:14,520
for a while, the more it will start bringing up

2228
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:17,600
the falseness, not only the falseness in you, but the

2229
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:20,279
falsest and that we'll get intuit of. Oh, I see

2230
01:50:20,279 --> 01:50:23,840
that politician is actually phony. I can feel like our

2231
01:50:24,119 --> 01:50:29,439
authenticity meters are so high. We spot phoniness everywhere, right, yes, yes,

2232
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:33,319
And it's just like there's no ability for anything phony,

2233
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:35,399
just one. You can see it in the eyes or

2234
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:37,359
the way that someone talks. You can just feel it.

2235
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,399
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

2236
01:50:45,039 --> 01:50:46,960
and now back to the show.

2237
01:50:48,359 --> 01:50:52,600
Speaker 2: You can sense truth. You can sense when anyone's lying now, right, But.

2238
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 1: Twenty years ago you couldn't. Fifty years ago you couldn't.

2239
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:57,319
Speaker 2: And you didn't even see through narcissism in the same

2240
01:50:57,319 --> 01:50:59,159
literally one hundred and fifty years ago, there was stake

2241
01:50:59,199 --> 01:50:59,840
oil salesmen.

2242
01:51:00,119 --> 01:51:02,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you would never be like, oh, yeah, that's

2243
01:51:02,279 --> 01:51:05,319
that's your right. Here's cancer right, Like it's like it's

2244
01:51:05,359 --> 01:51:07,479
just true, that's just true. He just said it, that

2245
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:10,399
was it. Yeah. But our BS meter has has gotten

2246
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:12,279
much more tuned.

2247
01:51:12,039 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, and so you'll notice that you have

2248
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,720
to align with You'll notice that the truest thing is

2249
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:25,800
this space. This now I find is just spending every

2250
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:28,960
day now, deleting things that I truly thought I was

2251
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:32,279
an hour before, and I am finding that the energy

2252
01:51:32,279 --> 01:51:35,319
field that is false is dying to the now. So

2253
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:38,680
it sounds like vague nothing stuff to the ego, But

2254
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:41,359
this is everything to the soul when you wake up.

2255
01:51:41,399 --> 01:51:43,439
What I would offer people is when you wake up,

2256
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:47,079
really listen to silence before you grab the phone, even

2257
01:51:47,119 --> 01:51:49,000
before you check in with other people. Maybe give your

2258
01:51:49,039 --> 01:51:51,239
partner a kiss or something, and go sit and listen,

2259
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:55,880
listen for like a while before you do something. Almost

2260
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:59,119
all of your what do I do even comes from trauma.

2261
01:51:59,199 --> 01:52:01,279
In other words, almost what do I do so the

2262
01:52:01,319 --> 01:52:04,079
house doesn't fall apart so people don't not like me.

2263
01:52:04,159 --> 01:52:07,119
The more you listen to what is here, the more

2264
01:52:07,159 --> 01:52:09,319
it shows you those were patterns. You're about to run

2265
01:52:09,359 --> 01:52:12,000
your day from a pattern of what do I do?

2266
01:52:12,079 --> 01:52:14,720
That's fixing things that God would like to demolish anyway

2267
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:16,439
to get you to the truth of what you are anyway,

2268
01:52:17,079 --> 01:52:19,760
So the more you listen to silence, the more it

2269
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:23,880
will bring up and delete the false self. And then

2270
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:25,239
you don't do what do I do?

2271
01:52:25,319 --> 01:52:25,560
Speaker 1: You do?

2272
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:27,560
Speaker 2: What is being called for me to do? Or what's

2273
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:29,760
God telling me? To do, and that will take you

2274
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:33,520
to a much more ascended frequency that does things that

2275
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:36,640
expand your soul versus that does things to stop things

2276
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:40,279
from falling apart that are actually supposed to fall apart. Right,

2277
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:42,439
And so the more you listen to silence, the more

2278
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:44,720
some things that we're going to fall apart externally will

2279
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:47,840
fall apart internally that will actually fix. There won't be

2280
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:49,880
a trigger if it falls apart, but often it'll suddenly

2281
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:52,039
come to you. If you're like your money story, right

2282
01:52:52,079 --> 01:52:54,159
the second you prayed and said please help me, you

2283
01:52:54,239 --> 01:52:56,159
let go of the pattern that was in control. You

2284
01:52:56,159 --> 01:52:57,800
ask God, and all of a sudden the money came.

2285
01:52:58,399 --> 01:53:03,399
So imagine that in the twenty twenty six you will

2286
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:07,319
really be exhausted if you keep moving from the false

2287
01:53:07,359 --> 01:53:11,399
self who's here to become something in order to prove

2288
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:13,960
your parents that you were something from a long time ago.

2289
01:53:14,199 --> 01:53:17,479
You're not even the family unit anymore, meaning like it's

2290
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:20,039
you and God. And then you bring that to the

2291
01:53:20,079 --> 01:53:21,760
family because a lot of people think who I am

2292
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:24,680
as my childhood, so they're just either being what their

2293
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:27,359
parents told them to be or the rejection of their parents,

2294
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:29,439
and by being the rejection of your parents, you're still

2295
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:32,279
holding onto them. This is really interesting. If you live

2296
01:53:32,319 --> 01:53:35,319
your life trying to not be your parent, I've seen

2297
01:53:35,359 --> 01:53:37,279
it proved over and over and over, you will be

2298
01:53:37,319 --> 01:53:40,600
the exact same parent, but on the opposite way. Right,

2299
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:43,880
Like I did an event on a product of mine

2300
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,720
called Your Soul is Not for Sale. I worked with

2301
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:50,479
this guy and I had said, you will become if

2302
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:52,720
you want to not be your parent, you will become

2303
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:55,239
just like them, but in an opposite way. And a

2304
01:53:55,279 --> 01:53:57,159
guy challenged me, and he goes, I got to say,

2305
01:53:57,199 --> 01:53:59,680
my dad never paid attention to me. He never said

2306
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:02,079
I love you. You know. It just made me feel

2307
01:54:02,119 --> 01:54:04,760
so unseen. And he said, and I tell my kids,

2308
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:06,680
I tell them I love that. I'll give them hugs

2309
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:08,199
in front of their friends. I'll tell them they don't

2310
01:54:08,239 --> 01:54:11,520
know how good they have it. He literally said this,

2311
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,279
And I said, so, let me get the straight.

2312
01:54:13,079 --> 01:54:15,199
Speaker 1: So it's reinforcing what you're saying.

2313
01:54:15,319 --> 01:54:18,359
Speaker 2: You literally are telling me when you tell your kids

2314
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:20,159
you don't know how good you have it, your love

2315
01:54:20,239 --> 01:54:24,000
comes with guilt, right, you're telling you you're making your

2316
01:54:24,039 --> 01:54:26,119
love for them about you and not that you love them,

2317
01:54:26,159 --> 01:54:28,119
and you make them uncomfortable, and hug them in front

2318
01:54:28,159 --> 01:54:30,359
of their friends when they don't want it. You're exactly

2319
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:32,760
your fun though it is fun. I mean it is

2320
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:36,079
fun to torture your children, yes, But the more we

2321
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:38,920
live a life of going don't be them, then you

2322
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:41,680
have to hold what them is in your field and

2323
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:43,920
you're and instead let go of what they are. Forgive

2324
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:46,159
your parents, release them. They have nothing to do with

2325
01:54:46,199 --> 01:54:49,800
your journey. Now you're grown up and your God's kid.

2326
01:54:50,159 --> 01:54:52,239
You got to not just be the wound. You could

2327
01:54:52,239 --> 01:54:55,079
still go visit them on holidays, but your God's kid,

2328
01:54:55,439 --> 01:54:59,479
not your parents' egos kid. And so we're here to

2329
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:01,560
listen to the now, and it will start to purge

2330
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:04,039
the idea that you were the wounds of your parents

2331
01:55:04,119 --> 01:55:06,840
that you picked up or your solution to your parents,

2332
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:09,600
you know, and you will become the now. And so

2333
01:55:10,239 --> 01:55:13,279
it is very important in twenty twenty six that people

2334
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:16,439
move intentionally with source and don't just let it throw

2335
01:55:16,479 --> 01:55:19,920
their ego around until they're exhausted and fall apart and

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01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:23,279
sick or ill or whatever distracted sick or ill?

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that because you were talking about ourbs

2338
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:30,760
meters and authenticity is such a we're so heightened right now?

2339
01:55:31,239 --> 01:55:33,720
Is that why you think that religion is taking so

2340
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:37,720
many hits lately? Oh, the last ten years, like organized

2341
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:41,640
religions and all all versions of it, people are starting

2342
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:42,399
to see the cracks.

2343
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's so interesting. I noticed something really profound. I

2344
01:55:47,119 --> 01:55:50,680
noticed that there was an old style of religion that's

2345
01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:54,119
different than what is happening now. Let me explain. In

2346
01:55:54,199 --> 01:55:57,239
the fifties and sixties, a lot of times Christians were

2347
01:55:57,319 --> 01:55:59,640
I hate Elvis and that's the devil's.

2348
01:55:59,359 --> 01:56:02,279
Speaker 1: Music and the don't Yeah, they couldn't shoot his hips. Yeah,

2349
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:07,039
they could have show his hips because they were gyrating, right, right,

2350
01:56:07,319 --> 01:56:08,880
But it actually made it worse when they didn't show it,

2351
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:13,159
because then your imagination, right, they didn't and so it

2352
01:56:13,239 --> 01:56:15,800
was actually dirtier but they didn't show it. Yeah.

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01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:21,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, And in that time that it was all based

2354
01:56:21,279 --> 01:56:23,720
on shame. You're going to hell, your sexuality is evil

2355
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:28,119
be Yeah. So my wife, her dad is a pastor,

2356
01:56:29,119 --> 01:56:33,760
and she grew up hearing shame about sexuality all this stuff.

2357
01:56:34,199 --> 01:56:36,520
How ironic is this? Like if you take the course

2358
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:40,840
and miracles, you know you now she now almost opens

2359
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:44,479
her heart to an expansive Jesus that helps her heal

2360
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:48,159
the Jesus that shames her. Do you get what I'm saying,

2361
01:56:48,239 --> 01:56:51,760
Like in this time, she's opening her heart helping out Jesus,

2362
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:54,279
and Jesus wipes away the one that makes her feel

2363
01:56:54,279 --> 01:56:56,399
like she's evil and bad and going to hell to do.

2364
01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 1: But but the thing is, and this is such a

2365
01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:03,439
great quote, no one ever left Christianity because of Jesus's teachings.

2366
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:07,359
Speaker 2: Right, they left for Paul. But that's another conversation. Well,

2367
01:57:07,399 --> 01:57:10,439
it's because at one point even that our consciousness is

2368
01:57:10,479 --> 01:57:13,880
so high that you're going that doesn't make logical sense.

2369
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:16,159
Like you're telling me, like Luis Cike had a joke,

2370
01:57:16,199 --> 01:57:18,439
he goes, you're telling me this kid that like lied

2371
01:57:18,479 --> 01:57:22,479
about a cran goes in these roommates with Hitler. You

2372
01:57:22,479 --> 01:57:24,920
know what I'm saying, like right meat and stuff like that. Yeah,

2373
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:30,159
And I feel very much like to in a scary

2374
01:57:30,239 --> 01:57:32,840
way warn a kid you're going to Hell is so abusive.

2375
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:36,439
My daughter is My daughter is scared when a guy

2376
01:57:36,479 --> 01:57:39,279
opens his eyes big in Willy Wonka or you know,

2377
01:57:39,359 --> 01:57:41,680
she's got her elf on the shelf and we moved them.

2378
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:44,039
She believes it. Like to tell her, Yeah, I want

2379
01:57:44,079 --> 01:57:45,880
you to go to bed and sleep and think you're

2380
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:50,359
going to burn forever. If anything, that is just craziness.

2381
01:57:50,439 --> 01:57:53,000
And I have a video on YouTube it's just called

2382
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:55,560
God and it says the most important conversation. It's me

2383
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:58,359
having dialogue with a woman that has a God that's

2384
01:57:58,359 --> 01:58:00,840
so mad at her and scared and have her realized

2385
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:04,479
like this now is actually what I see as God.

2386
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:06,960
It would love to help you heal the one that

2387
01:58:07,039 --> 01:58:09,359
was made to control us and make us scared and

2388
01:58:09,439 --> 01:58:10,840
keep it Like, but isn't.

2389
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Speaker 1: It interesting you a raised Christian? No, okay, but you

2390
01:58:14,479 --> 01:58:17,560
know obviously a good amount about Christianity somewhat somewhat right.

2391
01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:19,560
But you know there's a Bible. Yeah, I've heard of it.

2392
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:22,680
You've heard of it, right, Yeah, hotel exactly. And there's

2393
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:24,560
an Old Testament in a New Testament.

2394
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:27,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. Those are two very different gods. Yeah.

2395
01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 1: One is terrifying, Yeah, he is. He's a he's egocentric,

2396
01:58:32,159 --> 01:58:37,279
he's abusive, he plays games. Ye, he's he's like insecure.

2397
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,359
There's a bunch of that. And then in the new one,

2398
01:58:41,239 --> 01:58:43,279
it's like a lot NICER's a much well, it's a

2399
01:58:43,319 --> 01:58:47,399
much nicer God. And Jesus never ever talks about that God. Right,

2400
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:50,920
he never praised to yahweh. It's a two different it's

2401
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:51,399
just fast.

2402
01:58:51,439 --> 01:58:54,640
Speaker 2: And I always think this too, like if the idea

2403
01:58:55,279 --> 01:59:00,640
is the way into heaven is literally just say Jesus, then.

2404
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 1: What happens to everybody? The Buddhists.

2405
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 2: I wanted to imagine a speaker holding an event and saying,

2406
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:10,319
you need to say the only way to something is me,

2407
01:59:11,039 --> 01:59:13,760
and if you don't, I burn you, and you better

2408
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:17,399
love me because I burn you if you don't. You know,

2409
01:59:18,079 --> 01:59:20,279
Aaron Abke said on an interview I had with him,

2410
01:59:20,279 --> 01:59:23,159
He just said, is it free will? If you're threatened?

2411
01:59:23,199 --> 01:59:23,399
Speaker 1: Hell?

2412
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:25,239
Speaker 2: Like, in other words, if you're if I go in

2413
01:59:25,359 --> 01:59:27,239
to your house with a gun and say give me

2414
01:59:27,279 --> 01:59:28,720
all your money and you give it to me, I

2415
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:31,039
like it was this free will? They gave me this money.

2416
01:59:31,079 --> 01:59:34,319
It's like, No, that was fear right, and we're a

2417
01:59:34,359 --> 01:59:35,159
spiritual gun.

2418
01:59:35,199 --> 01:59:36,439
Speaker 1: You're holding a spiritual gun.

2419
01:59:36,239 --> 01:59:39,199
Speaker 2: To their head, right, You're you're not. My free will

2420
01:59:39,239 --> 01:59:40,960
isn't based on you've scared the crap out of me

2421
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:43,359
to do it. It's based on a calling. And I

2422
01:59:43,439 --> 01:59:48,000
believe that that. You know, I was working with the guy.

2423
01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:50,880
Oh I told you this part. I've just realized we

2424
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:54,359
did this. But like, the real connection to God feels

2425
01:59:54,399 --> 01:59:56,960
way better than what Earth is offering.

2426
01:59:57,760 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 1: What the stories that they've been told.

2427
01:59:59,119 --> 02:00:02,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I mean, like when you're going inward and

2428
02:00:02,039 --> 02:00:04,960
you're healing, you realize your love no matter what, that's God.

2429
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:09,079
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

2430
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:14,000
and now back to the show.

2431
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:19,520
Speaker 2: God says, God's God, Real God says, to give me

2432
02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:23,359
your shame, give me your regret. I will heal you.

2433
02:00:23,439 --> 02:00:26,640
I will undo you from that habit. I will release

2434
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:28,960
your guilt. Just let me hear it, let me look

2435
02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:32,199
at it with you. That's a personal relationship with God,

2436
02:00:32,279 --> 02:00:35,279
and that, to me is where I get the truth right.

2437
02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:37,880
Speaker 1: Because this is the thing that fascinates me about this

2438
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:41,079
conversation is that we're talking about a god now and

2439
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:44,039
there's all these arguments over the last let's say, two

2440
02:00:44,079 --> 02:00:47,079
thousand years, twenty five hundred years, right, But prior to that,

2441
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:52,720
there were gods prior in humanity and multiple gods.

2442
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, lost the gods.

2443
02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:57,199
Speaker 1: Who are just around for I mean we're talking about

2444
02:00:57,199 --> 02:01:00,640
thousands and thousands of years. Well, what happened to them? Right?

2445
02:01:01,079 --> 02:01:04,399
What happened because there was just for that time, that's

2446
02:01:04,439 --> 02:01:07,520
my point. There was someone in Egypt talking about the

2447
02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:11,119
raw sun god Raw, and then Isis and all these

2448
02:01:11,159 --> 02:01:13,039
other different gods were there, and then there were people

2449
02:01:13,039 --> 02:01:16,520
in Greece talking about Zeus. And then before Zeus there

2450
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:19,600
were the Titans, you know, and then you know Apollo

2451
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:23,039
and all that. So there was arguments done with them. Yeah,

2452
02:01:23,039 --> 02:01:26,079
that's the thing. There was arguments constantly throughout human history.

2453
02:01:26,319 --> 02:01:28,039
Speaker 2: Pretty unpopular to be like I'm going to pray to

2454
02:01:28,119 --> 02:01:31,439
Zeus today, like Zeus is my there is I'm sure

2455
02:01:31,439 --> 02:01:34,199
somebody out there who does pray to Zeus right now,

2456
02:01:34,439 --> 02:01:35,039
you know, and there.

2457
02:01:35,079 --> 02:01:38,439
Speaker 1: But that's the thing that drives me insane about this

2458
02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:42,439
is that, like, well, no one like just right now

2459
02:01:42,479 --> 02:01:45,720
the current story that we're all watching and talking about

2460
02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:48,600
are the the let's say, all the religions that are

2461
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:50,359
out there right now, all the gods that we've been

2462
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:53,880
told about, you know, But there were gods before, and

2463
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:56,319
there'll be gods later. Do you think in twenty thousand

2464
02:01:56,399 --> 02:01:59,920
years we're gonna be talking about Jesus or Mohammad or

2465
02:02:00,119 --> 02:02:03,399
or boot Up maybe and maybe if we if we

2466
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:05,800
if we don't recycle ourselves if we don't go through

2467
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:10,880
another kyloclysm like you know, uh Atlantis and we start again, right,

2468
02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:13,680
you know, and and then it's just another rehash of

2469
02:02:13,720 --> 02:02:15,840
the same story, just told differently. Because I don't know

2470
02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:17,720
if you know this or not. There's about I think

2471
02:02:17,720 --> 02:02:19,840
it was twelve. I'm gonna actually do some more research

2472
02:02:19,880 --> 02:02:22,319
on this. Twelve to fifteen other gods who have the

2473
02:02:22,359 --> 02:02:25,760
same origin story. Wow, as as Jesus. I'm not kidding,

2474
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:26,399
that's crazy.

2475
02:02:26,920 --> 02:02:28,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about there.

2476
02:02:28,399 --> 02:02:31,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's they born of a yeah, born of

2477
02:02:31,439 --> 02:02:35,119
a virgin. Later they did die. All that tuff. This

2478
02:02:35,199 --> 02:02:37,319
is this is fact. This has been out to do.

2479
02:02:37,319 --> 02:02:40,039
Speaker 2: A bit about. I read the Bible and it said

2480
02:02:40,119 --> 02:02:42,039
God said, let there be light, and I was thinking,

2481
02:02:42,039 --> 02:02:44,119
I'm sure he did, but who was he talking to.

2482
02:02:45,199 --> 02:02:48,000
Wasn't he by himself? Like I don't stand alone in

2483
02:02:48,039 --> 02:02:51,960
my kitchen, Let there be cheesy macaroni. And then I

2484
02:02:52,039 --> 02:02:54,960
make it and I tasted. I'm like, and it was good.

2485
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:57,600
I approve of my macaroni.

2486
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:01,319
Speaker 1: But it's true.

2487
02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:05,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's but I think there's a lot of I mean,

2488
02:03:05,479 --> 02:03:10,359
I think we're here now to actually have a really adventurous,

2489
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:16,479
true expansive through experience relationship with God that we can't

2490
02:03:16,520 --> 02:03:19,159
get too caught on which invisible man, and that was

2491
02:03:19,239 --> 02:03:22,920
told to us versus you can feel it and and

2492
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:25,560
I just feel it through my expansion. I feel it

2493
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:29,199
through the choices I make, because they're batting a thousand

2494
02:03:29,239 --> 02:03:32,479
at being right. I've had times where I ignored what

2495
02:03:32,680 --> 02:03:35,319
my soul said, where I kept someone in my life

2496
02:03:35,359 --> 02:03:37,720
that my soul was like, that's not a good person

2497
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:39,720
for you, and I was just like, just shut up,

2498
02:03:40,079 --> 02:03:43,319
true voice. And then it's like, all right, I'll let them.

2499
02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:44,880
I'll let them get screwed over.

2500
02:03:45,359 --> 02:03:45,840
Speaker 1: Would you know?

2501
02:03:46,359 --> 02:03:47,880
Speaker 2: So that's that's God to me.

2502
02:03:48,159 --> 02:03:52,079
Speaker 1: Would you agree that most of us, I'm not gonna

2503
02:03:52,119 --> 02:03:54,600
say most of us. I think all of us are

2504
02:03:55,119 --> 02:03:57,159
confused as hell of why the hell we're down here.

2505
02:03:57,520 --> 02:03:59,560
We're trying to do the best job we can and

2506
02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:02,479
figure things out. And when someone comes to you with

2507
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:05,920
a story that kind of makes sense that you can

2508
02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:09,119
grab on too and hold on. That gives you a

2509
02:04:09,159 --> 02:04:13,199
sense of security. But to be out there free. As

2510
02:04:13,199 --> 02:04:17,199
we're discussing which more people are becoming that awakened and thinking,

2511
02:04:17,279 --> 02:04:19,920
let's look inside, because when you're doing all of that,

2512
02:04:19,960 --> 02:04:22,119
there's nothing to hold on to you. Yeah, you're holding

2513
02:04:22,159 --> 02:04:25,680
on to you, Yes, and that's terrifying for most people.

2514
02:04:25,720 --> 02:04:30,039
Speaker 2: Well, and it's you know, you're you're gonna say, I

2515
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:35,079
find that you start realizing this one hundred percent is

2516
02:04:35,119 --> 02:04:38,439
about my healing. Meaning like the ego goes. I got

2517
02:04:38,479 --> 02:04:40,359
to change them, and it's when they change. And I

2518
02:04:40,359 --> 02:04:42,479
think there's a type of Christian that says everyone that

2519
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:45,279
doesn't say this thing is bad. You're bad. You're bad,

2520
02:04:45,319 --> 02:04:47,439
you're bad, because that's just well, they're in security and

2521
02:04:47,439 --> 02:04:50,880
they're not necessarily going. You know, I can think of

2522
02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:53,520
people that do that. That person's evil. That person's evil,

2523
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:58,119
but they're living all seven sins all day, eating terribly.

2524
02:04:58,199 --> 02:04:58,720
You know whatever.

2525
02:04:58,840 --> 02:05:00,880
Speaker 1: If you watch if you watch an art ghosts and

2526
02:05:00,920 --> 02:05:03,520
you see and you see the assassin drug dealer going

2527
02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:07,920
to church going right, that drives me insane. The mafia

2528
02:05:07,960 --> 02:05:10,880
guys like yeah, you know, you can't like what it says.

2529
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:13,000
Speaker 2: If you don't have to live a certain way, just

2530
02:05:13,079 --> 02:05:15,800
do that and you're going you go kill people and

2531
02:05:15,840 --> 02:05:18,359
you're in Like, I don't want to be in that heaven.

2532
02:05:19,159 --> 02:05:23,239
It's just it's just full of the people you here

2533
02:05:23,279 --> 02:05:24,439
with Gandhi not good.

2534
02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2535
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:30,399
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, meanwhile, Gandhi's in hell because he lived it. That's

2536
02:05:30,399 --> 02:05:33,039
true what I'm saying, Like, so Gandhi, m okay, they're

2537
02:05:33,039 --> 02:05:35,840
all in hell because they lived it versus said it.

2538
02:05:37,119 --> 02:05:39,199
You know what I'm saying, and then you just should

2539
02:05:39,239 --> 02:05:42,399
judge everybody, no, the ones that are really I'm gonna

2540
02:05:42,399 --> 02:05:44,479
find the love in me, even in the hardest people

2541
02:05:44,479 --> 02:05:46,439
to love. I'm going to go and heal. I'm gonna

2542
02:05:46,439 --> 02:05:49,680
have conversations with people about it. I'm gonna gonna listen

2543
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:52,640
to I'm gonna also understand why other people are that way.

2544
02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:55,520
I'm gonna heal my trauma. I'm going to face stuff.

2545
02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:57,920
I'm gonna stop bringing all my addictions in and listen

2546
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:00,279
to what hire has for me. I find that you

2547
02:06:00,319 --> 02:06:02,439
start to feel heaven on earth if you follow that,

2548
02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:04,640
and then I'm not too subscribed if needing to know

2549
02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:07,359
what happens when you die, because I'm curious about the

2550
02:06:07,399 --> 02:06:10,039
life I'm in. I'd rather look at the next forty

2551
02:06:10,119 --> 02:06:13,760
years versus what happens after it, you know, and really

2552
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:17,000
go I'm here to live so that living in my

2553
02:06:17,079 --> 02:06:22,720
highest truth is my relationship with God, and it does

2554
02:06:22,840 --> 02:06:27,520
miracles like Course in Miracles is accurate, that interprets the

2555
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:31,600
Bible correctly. To me, Course in Miracles is the most truth.

2556
02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:35,359
Love based makes sense logically. And you'll notice that the

2557
02:06:35,359 --> 02:06:38,439
people that follow that are very loving and happy, and

2558
02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:40,720
the ones that are so glued to the old way

2559
02:06:41,199 --> 02:06:45,159
are angry and stuck and mean and aging and addicted,

2560
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:45,760
you know.

2561
02:06:46,279 --> 02:06:48,840
Speaker 1: And so isn't that interesting though, because yet that is

2562
02:06:49,199 --> 02:06:52,079
well obviously and I'm sure you've heard this before that

2563
02:06:52,159 --> 02:06:54,600
you know, the Bible was created by Rome and Rome,

2564
02:06:55,119 --> 02:06:57,520
you know, and the Constantine and all that stuff and all.

2565
02:06:57,560 --> 02:07:00,760
It's just stories, man, It's just stories thrown together. Other Yeah,

2566
02:07:00,760 --> 02:07:02,880
it didn't make any sense where there's a.

2567
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:06,079
Speaker 2: Lot of details like like but yeah, but a lot

2568
02:07:06,119 --> 02:07:09,600
of but a lot of holes in the plot. Yeah,

2569
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:11,800
a lot of hole. But if I I'm just saying,

2570
02:07:12,119 --> 02:07:16,680
if I spoke to you and was like, hey, Alex,

2571
02:07:16,720 --> 02:07:18,760
I'm Kyle, and this is Amber, and just so you know,

2572
02:07:18,840 --> 02:07:22,720
Amber Begat Stephanie, and she begat Ella and she Begat

2573
02:07:22,760 --> 02:07:26,680
and You're just like, nice to meet you Amber. And

2574
02:07:26,760 --> 02:07:28,800
she built a thing and it took nine cubits and

2575
02:07:28,840 --> 02:07:31,520
four cubits and six two by fours and there were

2576
02:07:32,399 --> 02:07:37,359
just what happened with the arc? Like like there's a

2577
02:07:37,359 --> 02:07:39,520
lot of detail, Like it's like we got the home

2578
02:07:39,560 --> 02:07:41,479
depot measurements of some of.

2579
02:07:41,399 --> 02:07:42,079
Speaker 1: This the arc.

2580
02:07:42,239 --> 02:07:44,479
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I guess for anyone that goes,

2581
02:07:44,520 --> 02:07:46,760
how many cubits was the arc? Really?

2582
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:49,800
Speaker 1: You know? And how did the lions stay next to

2583
02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:50,479
the lambs?

2584
02:07:51,439 --> 02:07:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2585
02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 1: In the same place? You know.

2586
02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:57,439
Speaker 2: You know it's weird because I I I'm sure we'll

2587
02:07:57,520 --> 02:07:59,319
go to hell for mocking. And I don't mean to be,

2588
02:07:59,399 --> 02:08:02,640
but like I do have serious questions, like so you're

2589
02:08:02,680 --> 02:08:06,039
telling me he got two wasps and knew what was

2590
02:08:06,079 --> 02:08:08,600
female like it was.

2591
02:08:09,039 --> 02:08:12,199
Speaker 1: In sex were never discussed. It was a mammal only scenario.

2592
02:08:12,319 --> 02:08:16,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, the oceans, that was fine. I don't burs sumber.

2593
02:08:16,399 --> 02:08:19,359
It's not all the birds, right, I just I'm just curious.

2594
02:08:19,439 --> 02:08:23,680
I just think the gathering process when you're at like, God,

2595
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:27,399
we need two more okay, we had two regular mice.

2596
02:08:27,439 --> 02:08:28,399
We need snow mice.

2597
02:08:29,399 --> 02:08:30,880
Speaker 1: We have a leopard? Do we need a snow leopard?

2598
02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:34,159
Speaker 2: More cubits and you're all capable of bating? Right?

2599
02:08:34,239 --> 02:08:37,119
Speaker 1: And then and then and there was no hanky panky

2600
02:08:37,119 --> 02:08:37,560
in the arc.

2601
02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the one's doing. Yeah, Like, there's no snow

2602
02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:42,319
leopard with a normal letter eating because he just ate.

2603
02:08:42,680 --> 02:08:46,039
There goes our sheep. Yeah, there goes our sheep. We

2604
02:08:46,079 --> 02:08:47,000
had we.

2605
02:08:46,920 --> 02:08:48,960
Speaker 1: Had two sheep, but we have some lamas, so we're good.

2606
02:08:49,399 --> 02:08:53,479
Like it's it's such an interesting idea, And then you

2607
02:08:53,520 --> 02:08:56,399
look at the whole concept of the Noah arc myth,

2608
02:08:57,079 --> 02:08:59,600
and every single culture in the world talks of a

2609
02:08:59,640 --> 02:09:03,920
great ful Yes, So all of a sudden, it's there's

2610
02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:08,000
so many holes in the plot of traditional religions in

2611
02:09:08,199 --> 02:09:09,439
so so many ways.

2612
02:09:09,520 --> 02:09:13,119
Speaker 2: I just feel like we're I just feel like we're

2613
02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:18,600
not here to control others and we're here to offer

2614
02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:21,840
a space of an experience and learn love. I believe

2615
02:09:21,840 --> 02:09:24,279
we're here to learn love. Yes, we're here to learn love.

2616
02:09:24,279 --> 02:09:27,439
And even though even though we're making these jokes, I

2617
02:09:27,520 --> 02:09:29,960
still am working on even feeling love for the people

2618
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:32,600
we're talking about, right, Like of finding me, there's a

2619
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:35,600
in every one of us, there's an injured child that

2620
02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:38,399
was a beautiful five year old that went through a

2621
02:09:38,399 --> 02:09:42,000
bunch of trauma, and we're here to find that. And

2622
02:09:43,439 --> 02:09:46,079
I believe we have learned love it one way, like

2623
02:09:46,119 --> 02:09:48,640
I got the thing I wanted. I've learned to learn

2624
02:09:48,720 --> 02:09:50,960
love for positive feelings. I've learned to learn love for

2625
02:09:51,000 --> 02:09:54,680
people I have things in common with the real powers.

2626
02:09:54,760 --> 02:09:56,439
Can I learn to love people that I would have

2627
02:09:56,479 --> 02:10:00,399
perceived of as enemies. Can I learn love for the

2628
02:10:00,479 --> 02:10:02,680
shame in my body? Because when I learn love for

2629
02:10:02,760 --> 02:10:05,840
the shame, it leaves. Can I learn love for guilt

2630
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:09,039
in my body regret? Can I love my entire past,

2631
02:10:09,079 --> 02:10:11,560
even parts of it I hate? Can I love that

2632
02:10:11,640 --> 02:10:13,920
I hate it until it goes That's what love does,

2633
02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:15,960
because love dissolves it.

2634
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:19,359
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

2635
02:10:23,000 --> 02:10:24,239
and now back to the show.

2636
02:10:26,399 --> 02:10:29,600
Speaker 2: And the only factor of what keeps something dark in

2637
02:10:29,640 --> 02:10:31,800
your body is it's not seen. And to me, seeing

2638
02:10:31,880 --> 02:10:34,319
it is loving it. The greatest love there is is

2639
02:10:34,399 --> 02:10:39,159
understanding someone, understanding deeper what's in here, and understanding your partner,

2640
02:10:39,239 --> 02:10:41,760
your friends, right. And when people do a one on

2641
02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:43,399
one with me, I do a hot seat with them,

2642
02:10:43,439 --> 02:10:46,279
and all I do is just understand deeper. And the ego,

2643
02:10:46,319 --> 02:10:48,560
as I said, always has to make no sense. And

2644
02:10:48,600 --> 02:10:51,199
if I ask the ego direct questions, it's scared because

2645
02:10:51,239 --> 02:10:53,479
it's seen. It's the man behind the curtain, and its

2646
02:10:53,479 --> 02:10:55,560
whole thing was it stayed dark and hidden, and it

2647
02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:58,279
was kind of this kaiser SoSE that's going around. But

2648
02:10:58,319 --> 02:11:00,560
when I keep asking it, Okay, how happens if you

2649
02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:02,680
do do it wrong? You know it goes well, then

2650
02:11:02,680 --> 02:11:04,760
no one will love me? And okay, what happens if that?

2651
02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:07,680
And then I start making and go, okay, tell the pattern.

2652
02:11:07,960 --> 02:11:09,760
I love you even if no one loves me. They

2653
02:11:09,800 --> 02:11:12,319
start crying and you start to realize the love of

2654
02:11:12,439 --> 02:11:16,560
seeing deeper. That's all love is is seeing and hearing

2655
02:11:16,640 --> 02:11:19,880
and being interested in deeper. I want to know what's

2656
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:23,119
in here, what drives you. That's love. And then someone

2657
02:11:23,159 --> 02:11:27,159
feels truly seen, they feel so loved. And so I'm

2658
02:11:27,319 --> 02:11:30,920
in the business of loving my shame, my guilt, being

2659
02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:32,920
a space for people that have a lot of shame,

2660
02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:36,680
that made mistakes, that hate themselves, and just letting them

2661
02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:38,399
know I don't care if they were in jail, Like

2662
02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:40,800
you know, we aren't going to heal this with you

2663
02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:44,239
shaming yourself, right, No one has ever shamed themselves into

2664
02:11:44,319 --> 02:11:46,920
a ton of change. In fact, if let's say someone

2665
02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:49,960
has a porn addiction, this is what they do a

2666
02:11:49,960 --> 02:11:52,119
lot of times they have the porn addiction and then

2667
02:11:52,119 --> 02:11:54,159
they go, Okay, I'm going to never do it, and

2668
02:11:54,359 --> 02:11:56,119
I'm not someone I'm so bad to do it, I

2669
02:11:56,159 --> 02:11:59,159
shame myself. Well, now you're saying the only way out

2670
02:11:59,199 --> 02:12:02,239
of this addiction. Now you're saying that you put yourself

2671
02:12:02,239 --> 02:12:04,199
into shame prison, and the only way out of it

2672
02:12:04,239 --> 02:12:07,359
is to go back to porn. Right, So you can't

2673
02:12:07,439 --> 02:12:11,079
use shame to do it. You use ascension, You use forgiveness,

2674
02:12:11,159 --> 02:12:14,560
You use that you're you're more than that. You use

2675
02:12:14,640 --> 02:12:17,399
that it was a pattern that you forgive, that needed

2676
02:12:17,439 --> 02:12:22,760
that that addiction. And so love transcends patterns. Love changes

2677
02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:26,199
the person, right, And so the more we learn to

2678
02:12:26,239 --> 02:12:29,439
love not just you know, my football team or the

2679
02:12:29,479 --> 02:12:32,039
people I have in common with or whatever, but all

2680
02:12:32,119 --> 02:12:34,600
that is, the more you alchemize all that is, and

2681
02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:37,199
the more you'll see the world change. And you'll see

2682
02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:41,520
even that horrible politician you hate, or that you know

2683
02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:44,520
mother in law that never understands. I watch as I

2684
02:12:44,640 --> 02:12:47,680
heal wounds with opposite people. The next thing I know,

2685
02:12:47,720 --> 02:12:51,039
they're calling me right like they'll they'll call and apologize,

2686
02:12:51,079 --> 02:12:53,800
or they'll call and forgive or whatever, and you start

2687
02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:58,479
to realize like, Okay, that person was in here. And

2688
02:12:58,520 --> 02:13:00,960
when I find enough love for the person that I

2689
02:13:01,119 --> 02:13:03,720
was hating, I was at war with me. Now all

2690
02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:05,520
of a sudden I heal it. I have it happen

2691
02:13:05,600 --> 02:13:08,159
all the time, that all of a sudden that issue

2692
02:13:08,239 --> 02:13:12,359
changes externally. So that's love, and that love is the

2693
02:13:12,399 --> 02:13:14,439
love of God. And that love of God to me

2694
02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:16,319
isn't about good versus evil.

2695
02:13:16,880 --> 02:13:17,319
Speaker 1: It goes.

2696
02:13:17,399 --> 02:13:20,039
Speaker 2: I love even evil so that it stops being evil

2697
02:13:20,439 --> 02:13:22,439
because what made it evil was no one saw it.

2698
02:13:22,880 --> 02:13:25,720
Speaker 1: But can you tell people if what you're doing where

2699
02:13:25,760 --> 02:13:27,399
they can find you in your amazing works.

2700
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:29,760
Speaker 2: I have so much stuff coming out well. I've been

2701
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:33,640
really enjoying making courses and making them unreal affordable. I

2702
02:13:33,680 --> 02:13:36,880
did a course recently on regret. It's called regret alchemy,

2703
02:13:37,039 --> 02:13:39,880
grieving the life you didn't get to live. I believe

2704
02:13:39,960 --> 02:13:42,039
very much that even if we love our life now,

2705
02:13:42,239 --> 02:13:45,039
we very often use it to interrupt regret, meaning like

2706
02:13:45,159 --> 02:13:48,520
regret wants to say, Man, I really miss the life

2707
02:13:48,560 --> 02:13:50,960
that I could have had. But I shouldn't feel that

2708
02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:52,640
way because I have a kid and I wouldn't have it,

2709
02:13:52,680 --> 02:13:54,920
and that shuts up the feeling and so the regret

2710
02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:58,279
stays there. So we made a beautiful course called Regret Alchemy,

2711
02:13:58,319 --> 02:14:00,800
Grieving the life you didn't get to live. That one

2712
02:14:00,880 --> 02:14:03,239
people can pay whatever they want other than a nine

2713
02:14:03,279 --> 02:14:05,560
dollars minimum, but it's a full course. They can pay

2714
02:14:05,600 --> 02:14:08,239
it of another course called boundaries, and the course I

2715
02:14:08,279 --> 02:14:10,399
was telling you about called Out with the Old, In

2716
02:14:10,520 --> 02:14:13,880
with the Now. That one is another insane course that

2717
02:14:13,920 --> 02:14:15,560
I could have made a thousand, but I made it

2718
02:14:15,600 --> 02:14:19,760
twenty dollars. And also I'm working with my guy to

2719
02:14:20,439 --> 02:14:25,119
your people. Can people watching this can go into go

2720
02:14:25,159 --> 02:14:28,600
to kylecas dot com slash courses and you'll see all

2721
02:14:28,640 --> 02:14:31,159
of my courses at one price. If you put Soul

2722
02:14:31,680 --> 02:14:34,880
from Next Level Soul in, the prices go down dramatically.

2723
02:14:35,359 --> 02:14:36,560
Speaker 1: So it's I.

2724
02:14:36,479 --> 02:14:37,960
Speaker 2: Don't know what the price will be. That's why I'm

2725
02:14:37,960 --> 02:14:40,359
not saying what it is, but they'll be almost nothing

2726
02:14:40,680 --> 02:14:43,159
to get courses that are like you know, like boundaries

2727
02:14:43,319 --> 02:14:45,159
was one ninety nine that one I know will make

2728
02:14:45,199 --> 02:14:47,760
it fifty nine. That's a two day course on boundaries

2729
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:51,800
that mpaths need this course more than anything because mpaths

2730
02:14:51,800 --> 02:14:53,800
have a hard time boundary and because of that, they

2731
02:14:53,800 --> 02:14:55,760
disconnect themselves from their soul and they don't know how

2732
02:14:55,800 --> 02:14:58,079
much they're losing, how much money in everything. So go

2733
02:14:58,119 --> 02:15:02,720
to kylecas dot com courses and also just follow me

2734
02:15:02,760 --> 02:15:06,720
on Instagram. I'm on there the most. But yeah, I

2735
02:15:06,720 --> 02:15:10,079
am going to be feeling and going deep and on

2736
02:15:10,159 --> 02:15:13,079
fire in twenty twenty six. So I'm so excited to

2737
02:15:13,079 --> 02:15:16,479
work with your audience. I believe in being the real

2738
02:15:16,520 --> 02:15:20,439
thing the most that I can and helping people see

2739
02:15:20,439 --> 02:15:21,199
that they are too.

2740
02:15:21,800 --> 02:15:24,520
Speaker 1: And the courses that we're doing in Mastery are really

2741
02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:26,960
something very very special that we're going to be doing

2742
02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:29,960
for Next Level Soul and for people who have Next

2743
02:15:30,039 --> 02:15:33,359
Level SOULTV. And I'm so excited. And then, of course

2744
02:15:33,920 --> 02:15:38,359
if they haven't already, you were. You were one of

2745
02:15:38,359 --> 02:15:40,399
the very first people I reached out to when I

2746
02:15:40,520 --> 02:15:43,399
decided to launch Next Level Soul TV and said, hey, man,

2747
02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:45,920
do you got some cool stuff that we can put

2748
02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:49,840
on there? And you've been so beautiful and giving and

2749
02:15:49,880 --> 02:15:53,239
you gave us a Love Rising, which is love nine

2750
02:15:53,439 --> 02:15:54,520
hours something like that.

2751
02:15:54,520 --> 02:15:57,119
Speaker 2: That's me at the Dolby Theater. Yeah, thirty four hundred

2752
02:15:57,159 --> 02:16:00,199
people a nine hour event. It was a two day event.

2753
02:16:00,159 --> 02:16:02,520
Speaker 1: And we have it's luck as it was shot, so

2754
02:16:02,600 --> 02:16:03,920
Beautiful's like a Netflix special.

2755
02:16:03,960 --> 02:16:05,920
Speaker 2: It's crazy, it's beautiful.

2756
02:16:06,119 --> 02:16:08,039
Speaker 1: And your lovely little girls in there too. She makes

2757
02:16:08,039 --> 02:16:08,720
a little cameo.

2758
02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:10,039
Speaker 2: Dude, you know what's so funny?

2759
02:16:10,119 --> 02:16:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was there when it happened.

2760
02:16:11,600 --> 02:16:14,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were there when this happened. There's two parts

2761
02:16:14,359 --> 02:16:17,000
of that Vivi thing. So this was shot when my

2762
02:16:17,079 --> 02:16:20,880
daughter was one year old and I had her on

2763
02:16:20,960 --> 02:16:22,199
my shoulders at one point.

2764
02:16:22,199 --> 02:16:23,800
Speaker 1: It's a thumbnail. It's one of the thumbails.

2765
02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:26,439
Speaker 2: And she comes out and I'm showing her the theater

2766
02:16:26,520 --> 02:16:29,159
and I said, I, I said to the audience. I said,

2767
02:16:29,159 --> 02:16:31,560
I just want to show her this one day, to

2768
02:16:31,600 --> 02:16:33,719
show her she was on stage at the Dolby Theater.

2769
02:16:34,559 --> 02:16:37,280
So you call me and we're talking about this course,

2770
02:16:37,360 --> 02:16:39,399
and then you said have you put Next Level Soul

2771
02:16:39,479 --> 02:16:41,159
TV on? And I was just like no, And I

2772
02:16:41,159 --> 02:16:44,000
put it up on my TV and I see the

2773
02:16:44,079 --> 02:16:46,680
chapters and my daughter, who's eight now, is sitting there

2774
02:16:47,000 --> 02:16:48,639
and one of the chapters is her as a baby,

2775
02:16:48,680 --> 02:16:52,079
and she goes, Dad, is that me? And I go yeah,

2776
02:16:52,120 --> 02:16:55,479
And so we click it and I say to her,

2777
02:16:55,639 --> 02:16:58,120
I'm going to show you you on the stage and

2778
02:16:58,159 --> 02:17:00,520
she's watching that moment with you on the It was

2779
02:17:00,719 --> 02:17:04,239
so amazing full circle and she was shocked. She's like

2780
02:17:04,280 --> 02:17:06,079
she couldn't believe she was in front of that many people.

2781
02:17:06,760 --> 02:17:08,920
And my team also was showing me a clip they

2782
02:17:08,920 --> 02:17:13,399
were considering using for Instagram. They made a short. There's

2783
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:17,000
a moment where I say, I say, I'm talking about

2784
02:17:17,399 --> 02:17:20,159
we are triggered by things outside of us because it's

2785
02:17:20,159 --> 02:17:22,760
triggering things inside of us. And this was the time

2786
02:17:22,799 --> 02:17:25,159
where I don't remember why, I was twenty eighteen, but

2787
02:17:25,159 --> 02:17:27,360
there was a new story about people being being separated

2788
02:17:27,399 --> 02:17:29,280
from their parents. It might have been in Syria or

2789
02:17:29,280 --> 02:17:32,440
something like that, and I say, kids are very scared

2790
02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:35,879
to be separated from their parents, and that one moment,

2791
02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:40,440
Vivi from the side goes ah, like she literally only

2792
02:17:40,559 --> 02:17:43,319
yelled out when I said kids being separated from their parents.

2793
02:17:43,879 --> 02:17:46,440
It was so miraculous to just like turn over and

2794
02:17:46,479 --> 02:17:49,559
the camera turns over and she's there making noise, but

2795
02:17:49,639 --> 02:17:52,360
she didn't make noise that interrupted a point that didn't

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have a point about kids in their parents. And I

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just think that the higher you go up, the more

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synchronistic things get. Yes, when you start seeing miracles everywhere

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versus your agenda that it needs to be your weird way,

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that is nothing compared to what God has for you.

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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely absolutely. So we have Love Rising, we have

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the Limitation Game, which is another event that you gave us.

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We have a bunch of your meditations yes on there

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as well. And we have your film The Illusion of Money, Yes,

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which I love, love that pretty's. I love your opening

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when it just feels yeah, you're just like, so yeah,

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do we keep going?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very proud of that movie. We just made

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it and then it was just in things and I'm like,

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I kind of use twenty twenty and beyond to introvert

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and heal myself, and so we never took the time

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to shop around it. And I think it could have

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been a huge hit on Netflix or something, but instead

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it's on next level soul.

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Speaker 1: It's it's nice. We're supposed to be saved for that,

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and it has been. My friend has been. And we

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also have your short film how was it? How evolved

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people are?

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Speaker 2: How enlightened peoplege genius? Yes, genius. Well I did a

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sketch like that. I don't know if you ever saw it.

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Maybe yeah, six years ago, is it things? Yeah? How

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enlightened families argue yes, because it's really weird. The more

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you go up in awareness, how funny an argument is

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because you're just not owning the awareness. You know, like

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if you've studied Byron Katie or you know, done inner work,

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you get that your anger is your stuff. So it's

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really funny to picture. So how would enlighten people? Road rage?

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So that sketches on there, But like, yes, I go,

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I go for a parking spot, JP takes it and

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I go, this is so annoying because I'm under the

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illusion that that parking spot was mine because I was

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sitting there and I'm I go and yell at him,

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and I'm like, I'm under the illusion I should be

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somewhere other than now, but right now is the only

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place there is. And people are joining and like, hey,

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you know, I need significance, so I'm going to join this,

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and I'm addicted to drama, so I'm going to stick

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around and like it's so fun because and that got

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three point five million views on my Instagram page.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. We had a meditation bundle there. We put

2842
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that in made the meditation Bundle twenty dollars and thousands went,

2843
02:20:06,680 --> 02:20:09,600
and so it's awesome. And yeah, so they get two

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of us. We're like both. There's two places you can go, yes, right,

2845
02:20:13,959 --> 02:20:16,399
Kyle cs dot com slash Courses and Next Level Soul

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02:20:16,479 --> 02:20:19,680
Seed TV. Yeah, and I'm honored to just be in.

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I'm only about collaboration and not competition, manute. We give

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to each other absolutely, overflow.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, my friend, Kyle, It's always a pleasure. Yeah,

2850
02:20:29,639 --> 02:20:34,799
having you here, and now that you're in Austin's, I

2851
02:20:34,840 --> 02:20:36,680
feel that there's going to be more and more of

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us doing stuff together.

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Speaker 2: I love it here so much, man, I love the community.

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I love being here. There's just it's so freeing to

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be here. And I love that I'm just down the

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street from you now. It's great to see you, brothers. Man,

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you're a good guy.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, brother. I appreciate you for being here and

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for everything you're doing to awake in this planet. Man.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you you too, brother.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

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If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll

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