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let's dive in to today's episode. I like to welcome
back to the show, returning Champion, returning Ist, Returning is Champion,
a lot of I'm honored, man, brother.
Speaker 2: How you doing, man, I'm so good, I'm so good, dude.
Speaker 1: It's been it's been a minute since you've been. I
think last time you were here was right before we
did the Ascension conference together. Dude.
Speaker 2: That was so fun and it was.
Speaker 1: It seems like it was fifteen years ago, but it
was literally this year.
Speaker 2: Time is different, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Time is different.
Speaker 2: It's a very different thing.
Speaker 1: And is it because we're old? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What if there's no weird universal magic thing. We're just
going through midlife crisis constantly, and I'm like, everything's different now.
It's like, yeah, you're forty eight, that's not a weird thing.
And it's not you know, I think about there's a
there's this thing about the Mandela effect. Yes, of course,
you know. Yeah, And it's so funny because there's a
lot of people that believe. And I'm not saying it's
not true. I'm really not, but it's like, you know,
did you know it used to be Berenstein Bears. Now
it's Bernstein or Barnstein Bear.
Speaker 1: It's never Berenstein Berenstein.
Speaker 2: And then and then there was this one. It was like,
did you know Nelson Mandela, Like people think he died
in the eighties. They remember him dying in the eighties.
I don't, And I'm like, no, he was freed from
prison and they had came up and it was like
a funeral procession and it was like the same thing.
And then someone went, did you know Ed McMahon never
worked for a publisher's clearing house?
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's mine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he worked for a competitor.
Speaker 1: Of it, but they never but he never but the
competitor never went door to door. No.
Speaker 2: I remember like the videos of him being like I'm
giving them a check.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it.
Speaker 2: Wasn't the company publishers clearing I just wonder if we're
just getting bad memories because it's forty years ago and
we just can't say I don't remember, so we're just
wou'd rather be like, so the universe changed everything, and
in that change we still remember the old We didn't
switch us completely.
Speaker 1: Well, but going down the big.
Speaker 2: Switches the Berenstein bears, that's the big universe is like, Okay,
let's grew from mean.
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's let's groom. Let's like, is the food
of loom logo have a cornicope?
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that I've heard, this is where we don't
know anything now because I've heard that's the thing I've
heard is that's a siop, that that they did change
it and to make us think that. So we all
just think we're going nuts now. I don't know what's
true at all. But you know what the greatest sentence
we could say from underwear, Yeah, fruit of vollons, like
we're in no cornucopia. We're gonna screw everyone over, right,
and then you'll just be g how about you. There's
a teenage girl. I remember, she wouldn't be I remember
that would be a yeah, she's got to be like fifty. Okay,
so it's a fifty year old if she still had
the teenage girl voice, like she just hadn't graduated from that.
Speaker 1: Everybody, this is just a taste of what you're in
for every time you and if.
Speaker 2: You need to start over, wee can three too. Returning champions,
Turney Champion. I'll cease this here. I still could be
I'm just saying I just love that it's so hard
for us to say I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is this, there's when we went and
I didn't like, I had no idea what we were
going to talk about in this conversation. I have no notes,
know nothing, because that's just the way you and I work.
Speaker 2: It'll be better because of that.
Speaker 1: Of course, and that's how you work. For sure. You
just show up and just like whatever comes comes. But
the whole thing with the Mendela effect and then we'll
move on, is that there's so many different things that
I remember differently, and that I'm not the only one
that remembers differently. Like in Field of Dreams movie quotes,
you know.
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke, I'm your father.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not Luke, I'm your father.
Speaker 2: But in Tommy Boy, Chris Barley says, Luke your father, right,
And so I think everyone grab remembered that.
Speaker 1: All right, So is it is it? Uh? If you
build it, they will come. Uh.
Speaker 2: I remember back then I remember I do remember vividly
back then people quoting it wrong. I remember people saying,
if you build it, he will come as a hilarious
sexual reference.
Speaker 1: And we're talking about Field of Dreams, by the way, everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I remember in like junior high people
saying that if you build it and then you I
watched the movie then and was like, oh, that's not
quite how they said it. So there's a part of
me that's like, yeah, they started saying it wrong then.
And remember, well, I've.
Speaker 1: Had I've had multiple conversations with quantum physicistms.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying no. I'm not saying no as a
major quantum physics person just through experience, obviously, I think
that it's just it, and I'm so I'm not debunking
it as much as just also saying sometimes, also, do
we just remember stuff differently or.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a perfect example. I've always you know,
I remember Jiffy Peanut butter mm okay, you mean Jeff
right now, it's called That's exactly where I was going
with it. I remember there's Skippy and then there's Jeff.
But I in my memory remember Jiffy and there very
possibly could have been that I connect the Jiff and
Skippy together.
Speaker 2: That's no question, more sense than the universe has put
them those two things together.
Speaker 1: Can I be honest with you, Yeah, it's much cooler
if the universe did it.
Speaker 2: That's that's the truth. I mean, seriously, can you name
the woman that did the Skippy commercials a net Funicello?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the eighties. I'm sure now we'll watch some
thing about that.
Speaker 1: It is Betty White. It'll it'll be a.
Speaker 2: Net Funicelli now and they go, oh, you guys argue
about that.
Speaker 1: We'll just thinking that the Mandela effect was put out
by the government to screw with all of us.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't say I think that because I love
the sentence. I don't know. It's the most freeing sentence
in the world.
Speaker 1: It is, you know what.
Speaker 2: There are people that don't want to say it, and
I think.
Speaker 1: Nowadays people are more concerned about just being showing weakness
in any way, shape or form. But in my opinion,
it's not showing weakness, it's showing strength to just go.
I don't know. As a filmmaker, when I'm on a set,
I get asked a thousand different questions by a thousand
different people a day, and sometimes I just go, I
don't know, Yeah, what do you got? Yeah? Because you
don't have all the answers for things, and only a
strong it's only the people who are not comfortable within
their own skin or not or just a little insecure
that will have to have to come up with an
answer for everything, even though they might not know it.
It's much more, it's much stronger for you to just say,
I don't know, let's figure.
Speaker 2: It out, and then if you go really deep. And
that's what I'm so excited to talk about today as
we start to go so who's the one that needs
to look like they know? Like, who's the one that
can't do it wrong? And That's why I'm more and
more as I do this work, I believe almost all
of what are I is is a solution to trauma.
Almost we think it's our personality, like I'm really driven,
or I'm really introverted, or I'm a people pleaser. And
from doing the work I've been doing for the last
fifteen years and literally somewhere between twelve to fifteen thousand
and one on ones, I'm starting to see that the
eye that we create you know. Whatever the story is
and we attach to it, it is not the truth.
And when we protect it, we are missing out on
the essence of what we are. And the more we
connect to the now, you notice the now doesn't like
have like you know, hard facts like this is what's
against this? In fact, the now is this incredible space
that holds space for different perspectives. Right, So like in
the now, a couple could have an argument, and all
an argument is is one person is not seeing the
other ones at the same time, they're not seeing your perspective.
But even if you're they're totally wrong. Seeing their perspective
helps them release it, right, so it gets freed the
second it's seen. So this is really interesting because the
more you connect to the now, the more you realize
you can be a space of possibility and not be
so protective of your I know. And the more you're
in an I know, the more you're protecting actually trauma
that created this character that needs to know, because most
people have wounds from parents that had bigger egos from
a time when we didn't do this work. Even more
and there are people that have like if I don't know,
then I'll be a failure. To my dad. If I
don't know, then I won't be loved. If I don't know,
then my mom will abandon me. If you know, and
then and people a long time ago were taught you
have to know stuff otherwise everything goes to hell in
the New world, I would offer where we're headed. The
more you know, factually, the less room there is for
exploration of going way beyond that.
Speaker 1: And again, through the work I've been doing for years
now and talking to so many people in this space,
I've kind of realized that this only takes you so far.
You've got to be able to feel certain things, and
there has to be a Yes, there's a knowing that
comes in when you feel something. It's so much more
powerful than just the intellectual because to learn the intellectual
aspect of things is I'm gonna say it's easy, but
it's limiting. It's a very limiting thing. We'll be right
back after a word from our sponsor and now back
to the show. But when you have a knowing and
it's hard to quantify it, it's very difficult to quantify.
But you've heard it from near death experiencers who they
are on the other side and they just go I
just knew, I just know who that person is, or
I had a past life experience or a past life regression,
and the second I was in there, I knew who
everybody was before I even knew I can see their faces.
There's elements of that in the mystical, in the esoteric,
that the more you go down into the mystery schools
of ancient times, they weren't playing with just words on
paper or words on stone. They were playing in a
whole other realm much I think, much more developed than
where we are. Yeah, because to get all of this
that we have around us, to get all of the
technology and everything, we've had to gone so deep into
the intellectual in the matter, in the world of the
matter to be able to do this. I mean, in
the last one hundred and fifty years, we've gone farther
than the last six thousand, eight.
Speaker 2: Ten thousand yearsh It's exponential, Which is why I kind
of feel like the next year and the year after
are like you just said, the last one fifty years
was farther than the six thousand before. Imagine if the
next two years is just so much more crazy and
cutting edge that it beats the last one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1: Years, Well, that's going to happen that these next ten.
Speaker 2: Time feels so different.
Speaker 1: You know, let's dive into this, because you're absolutely right.
Time has felt I think basically from I think twenty
twelve was kind of the beginning of it, Yeah, which
was the shift from the Mayan calendar. Twenty sixteen had
a big jump. Obviously there was a lot of political
issues and things that went along in that. But then
twenty twenty showed up. Yes, and man, everything just just
went sh When and I say everything gets ramped up,
it's because every year in the twenties, every year has
been more intense than the year prior. No, I don't
think anyone can argue this. Every year there's some other
new thing there. Either it's the you know what happened
in twenty twenty, Then there's wars, Then there's technology, then
there's AI. This year has been a hell of a run,
you know, natural disasters and assassination attempts and all that.
I mean, it's just been crazy. Something similar to this
happened back in the sixties. If you remember the sixties,
sixty eight, sixty nine, those years were I mean, they
were you know, they JFK. Martin, Luther King, Watergate. It
was another the war, there was another time of just
this insane stuff. And there was a big spiritual spiritual
shift in the sixties. I was the beginning of the
Flower Child and the New Age movement and the spirit
spirituality movement and all that kind of stuff, and then
the seventies and the eighties and the nineties all changed.
Nineties obviously peak peak humanity. And you know where that's from.
You've heard that term, my peak humanity is in the nineties.
That's a term that a lot of people have been
throwing around late. I heard, yeah that like we peaked
that night in the nineties. That was it like that,
it was perfect. It was before the Internet, before social media.
It was like, that was peak time from humanity. I found,
you know, I just heard it. Where it came from.
It's from the Matrix.
Speaker 2: Well and which came out in the nineties.
Speaker 1: Ninety nine, and they said the Matrix the AI picked
that time period, which happened to be when they were
making it. But and they called it peak humanity, and
that's where that from. I thought that was really interesting
as I was just watching the make Sures again because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you should. Ever. Yeah, every few month, of course,
I mean it definitely is. It's it almost feels like
it was made to help us through this time. It's
becoming irrelevant, Yeah, because it's interesting because when you mentioned
twenty twelve, you know that that is a time where
I do remember vividly having almost a new timeline or
in other words, before twenty twelve, maybe even twenty eleven.
Around there, things were more linear. You didn't have this
kind of like different dimension where you'd make a choice
that's not like you and then that puts you almost
on a different path. In other words, the you that
was around before would never make the choice that you
made around twenty ten, twenty eleven, twenty twelve, twenty thirteen.
And the amount of people I know that was like,
that's when I left that old thing. That's when I
quit stand up comedy and had my awakening too, was
in twenty eleven, right, and you were prepping, Yeah, I was,
And that was also the beginning of the identification and
the split of a false Kyle. And I believe that
I believe the more I do this work, and I
think that Daryl would agree with this too, I believe
a lot that the universe mirrors you, like like literally
like when I you know, one time I heard Bashar
talking to someone and then I've been really seeing it
this way. There was a guy asking Bashar about conspiracy
theories and Bashar said, nothing we will do. We know
one thing that will not come through this is the
support of fearful theories. And the guy said, well, what
about like the illuminati bankers and all this stuff? And
he goes, He goes, there will be some people that
believe in that, that are worried about that, that will
see that happen, and there are other people that don't
believe in it or will go to a higher frequency
and I'll never see it. Yep, about that, And so
I thought to myself, So that means that, like, if
this guy stays worried, there's a world where like you
and I are dead already, and in our world he's
fine because it's mirroring me. Now, this might sound like
a crazy thing, but I do want to live as
if that's the case. In other words, what would the
truest highest me do? And so I feel like there
was this weird thing from my perspective where when I
leapt out of my old life and started going inward
and meditating and everything like that. It also felt like
the world started doing it more and more and more,
and the deeper I did it for me felt like
the world's doing it. I don't mean that narcissistically, like
it mirrors me. But you'll notice how many things that
as you see in you come to light. Then the
world also exposed, like some under You'll be like, oh,
there's a pattern of shame and it, oh, like there
was a bunch of child trafficking under this thing. Like
everything that's dark is coming to light. And the reason
that we have a hard time is not that this
stuff is suddenly here. It's that we're seeing it and
our lenses is getting bigger because we want to see it.
And we've made decisions to say, I want the truth
of what I am more than I want a result
that I can control, more than I want people to
like me. That's what my big announcement was on twenty
twenty to myself, I said in a meditation, merge me
with my soul, no matter what the cost. And I've
had some costs, and I'm finding my soul. I'm finding
the costs are only to the ego itself and you know,
so people are like, I want I want to merge
with my soul, but keep my business the same way.
Speaker 1: You know. So this opens up another area of discussion,
which is and this is something I think we as
a society have a problem with comfort.
Speaker 2: Yes, the patterns do.
Speaker 1: Yet we need to be comfortable all the time and
this leans into every aspect. So we have sucked out
of our day to day life any struggle. Now, with
that said, people are like, what are you saying, Alex,
I struggle every day. No, no, no, I'm just saying, as
a general statement, we want things to be easy, we
want things to be convenient, we want things to be comfortable,
and we've built all that in. Our ancestors didn't have.
Speaker 2: Three meals a day. We just didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't have. Many of them did not have. And
there are people around the world obviously who are still
struggling with that. But the Western world, the the you know,
the the not the civilized world, but the whatever that
the world you and I live in, essentially whatever that
word is, we have sucked out all the struggle. We
have sucked out all the adversity. Not saying emotional or
personal things like that. But generally speaking, you know, if
you're listening to this, you probably have three meals a
day probably, you know, again not for everybody, but you
have a roof over your head, you have a car,
you have generally speaking, generally speaking, and there's comfort there
where adversity is what makes us who we are. So
on a spiritual journey. If you study the Masters, there's
not one of them that just skipped to enlightenment. Everyvery
single one of them had major adversities, age, or challenges
to overcome to obtain the realization, the self realization that
they were in search for. Same thing for us now
in the physical world and how we're you know, we'll
talk a little bit about what you've been doing in
the physical world as well a little bit later. But
these challenges I'm starting to realize that, you know, now
people are what are they doing? Ice baths, you know,
sauna's heat. They're trying to create and the younger generations
are going out and doing like you know, iron Man
and marathons because they want it physically, challenge themselves to
do something because they they have a lot of comfort
in their life right that they don't have to and
and the body is not built for that. This body,
this brain, this this experience is built for adversity. And
the only time we ever grow is when we have
something to go against. Yeah, you know, to to a
challenge that we can overcome. Does any of that make
sense to you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, and I would offer there's two kinds of comfort,
there's and there's two kinds of pain. I've discovered. Their
one pain where you face the thing directly and rip
the band aid off and then go to a new frequency.
So a good example of that, in a general sense
would be something like skydiving. Right if someone actually they're scared,
they're scared, they're scared, they do it, they go through
the big fear, but now they're on the other side
and they're no longer a person that would never skydive.
Same with just leaping or moving into your soul or
following your heart. Right, So there's one direct pain that
you can face and then major release happens of the
part of you that has to die that never did that.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So when you're like, if you're someone who has if
you're someone who makes this is just to give an example,
let's say you're someone who's always made twenty thousand a year.
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Speaker 2: You know, there's a good chance that that's because you
have patterns in your body that say, like my family
told me money doesn't grow on trees, I'm not enough whatever.
So the second you finally move towards something that's not
like the family or your story, life has to purge
that part of you, right, life goes. The part of
you that was the family unit dies because you've just
killed it by moving to that higher frequency. Did that
make sense so far?
Speaker 1: It does? But the thing that's interesting about that is
every aspect of our life there is this this cyclical
version of us, and it's there's obviously the big the
big cycle, which is born, live, death, that's the big one. Yeah,
But in the middle of our lives we have little
births and deaths almost every days, every day.
Speaker 2: I think we would have as much in the times
before twenty twelve. By the way, like there, you know
what I mean. You are just aware of yourself as
a small linear timeline, and now the only way to
move forward is through the death of the false self,
which is now becoming times moving so fast, seemingly because
we don't have the timeline that does things predictively. Like you,
if I say to you, like, what are you going
to be doing in April of next year?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding?
Speaker 2: You have no idea? But if I said that to
a guy in nineteen eighty five, he would answer it.
And so the reason that is is because the one
that thinks in terms of time also is dying. There's
an us that holds on to regret, fear, guilt, and shame.
That stuff that it's holding onto is from the past. Yes,
by holding onto it, you're using time, and often their
escape is the future. But we are healing so much
because we have to. In other words, we're moving to
a time where you're either going to addiction yourself into
the ground or you're going to face your regret, your guilt,
your shame, your fears, because life is saying, hey, that
you that lived comfortably isn't you? Though? And just because
you were able to pull it off in nineteen ninety
seven doesn't mean you can now right, And so what
the world doesn't allow you to know? Well, that's and
that's why the other pain is the I'm comfortable, but
deep down I hate myself for doing all this comfortable stuff,
meaning like you ever wake up and go why did
I watch that? You know, like why did I?
Speaker 1: You know, why did I?
Speaker 2: Why did I eat that last night? Why did I?
That's the other pist. So, yes, there's a comfort, but
the light is too bright for that comfort to work.
Anyone that's watching this right has an awareness that's too
high for this comfort to truly be comfortable. In other words,
what was comfortable before.
Speaker 1: It was comfortable before is not comfortable now. Right things
so perfect example is you know I have a lovely
nostalgic remembrance of the eighties and the nineties. Yes, I'm
sure you as well.
Speaker 2: Yes I do, not as much as you yeah, yeah, yeah, yes,
I have a much hart yes yet I mean I
love the eighties and nine My most cutting edge band
is Hall and Oates right like like currently like like
I like eighties and nineties is so yeah.
Speaker 1: So I remember I remember working at a video store. Obviously,
It's one of my favorite times of my life. It
was very pleasurable, all that stuff and playing video games NonStop.
So you know, when we when I wanted to, like
you know, I could afford to buy like a street Fighter. Yeah,
our case, there's you know, there are a few hundred
bucks now, yes, and I got one and I played it, yeah,
and I'm like, it doesn't do it for me anymore.
Speaker 2: So if technology has moved from you know, Super Mario
Brothers and Street Fighter too, I can't tell if this
is a real YouTube video or not. That's what that's
what technology has changed to.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Also, our consciousness and our awareness has changed in the
exact same way. You are more and more aware every
day there's something in your heart that's calling you that
could not reach you before because you were just the
linear thing that was that comfort. So even though we
can grab flipping through Instagram and TikTok, even though we
can be comfortable, we have too much awareness that it's not.
And so you're getting a lot of people working on
getting out of it. You'll see people announce I'm no
longer on social media. I'll go about a week and
then be back. But but you're facing the thing, and
you're going through that first pain of going I'm going
to release the one that needs the comfort to stay
the past story of what I thought I was right.
So the two pains are really a fascinating thing. The
one is I'm going to face the thing. And this
is why I realized there's two comforts too. There's the
comfort of I'm in the third density, surrounding of so
many different things. I have all my you know, addictions,
and so I'm caught in you know. One way we
also can distract ourselves with comfort is seeking truth externally,
meaning like I want to know who the government is.
I want to know who got Charlie Kirk. I want
to know this that is not not important, but it's
almost like what zion is in the matrix and that
you are still saying the highest frequency is to find
the truth externally. We can need to do that in
one way, but you're missing out on the truth of
what you are to me. When we're getting caught in
what's the conspiracy? Even though there's truth in it, I'm
not saying that doesn't need to be seen or brought
to light one way or another. It's the equivalent of
Neo never learning kung fu and just staring back in
the matrix at how manipulative it is and being triggered
by it versus learning to fly right, and so were
missing we're missing out on our powers by grabbing the
egos comfort, but it's killing our soul's comfort. And I
find that my soul's comfort is the opposite. In other words,
you know that I fasted eleven days, right, I literally
had no food for eleven days. Everything changed. By day eight,
I had lost twenty pounds. My vision came back. When
I was done with the fast, I had been one hundred.
My testosterone was six hundred and seventeen. When I was done,
it was onenty twenty eight. I was in a comfort
of literally doing nothing. I literally did nothing. That's all
I have. All you have to It's weird how much
all you have to do is nothing, whether it's meditate,
just fast. It's like you can, you know, put your
diet together and go to the gym every day, or
literally do nothing, and eleven days later, everything changes so
much more than if you had gone to a CrossFit
daily and done all this stuff. And so there's a
way that ego is trying to get to ultimate health.
But the way that my fast was so fascinating and
worked so well was because I said, the reason, the
intention that I had behind it was I want to
get closer to God. It wasn't to get fitter. It
wasn't to get healthier, and then all these blind siding
results happened that I wasn't planning on. So I was
comfortable in just that I wasn't participating in the ego
at construct of the ego's comfort, and I had moments
where my ego would kick in and go, I really
want food, but I wasn't hungry. It was like an
emotion wanted and it was like my childhood wanted food
and I felt safer with my family and a restaurant
wanted food. And then I would just sit and listen
and listen and he died. I mean I watched him
come up, come up, and then I cried him out
like like a child, like it just came out. And
I just felt this power because now my intention to
connect to God was more powerful than the cheeseburger. Then
then the path than the cheeseburger.
Speaker 1: But what the cheese.
Speaker 2: We don't want the cheeseburger as much as what it means,
especially if we're nostalgic, like in the eighties, McDonald's was
less scary than it was now, and the you know,
and you just went there and you weren't checking out
seed oils and stuff, and you were you were really
like just out of my stuff. Yeah, exactly. And so
now when I my number one intention really is to
connect with God, and I find myself having this other comfort,
which is just like I'm fine as is I'm all,
I am just love and we So there's the comfort
of the control, which is the control is ego, like
the ego is not you. And and there's a lot
of people hear my content, well, they fight for the ego.
The ego still matters, and we wouldn't have things built.
But it's like you can give some power to the ego,
but give way more power to this space. Because I
wake up, I listen to silence for quite a while,
and this space will start to bring up the egoic
pattern and if I don't feed it, it dies. And
so I can feed it and have a temporary comfort
that later i'm full of regret that I have or
I cannot feed it, and it permanently falls out. I'm
not saying there's not more, but all of a sudden,
I find there's just a comfort in my existence versus
my You know that I'm that I'm watching a movie.
Speaker 1: And right let me ask you in regards to fasting,
and now I want to try to I want to
try to get into this a little bit more in
the spiritual side of things. Sure you know fasting has
gone through I mean it's in the Vedic world, in
the Hindu world. I mean, fasting is it's part of
you know, all the masters fasted will be right back
after a word from our sponsor, and now back to
the show, whether because they had to, because they had
no food at the time, or they actually did it
on purpose. Buddha was a very big, obviously example of
that of the fasting to my understanding, and this is
the way I'm seeing fasting on a spiritual standpoint. When
you fast, the amount what you put in your body
is very important, the kind of foods you put in mind,
because there's a frequency to the kind of food you
put in your body, regardless of what that is. And
I'm not trying to get into meat or not meat
or any of that that's irrelevant to do that.
Speaker 2: It's not saying be vegan. I'm not saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care, I don't care. You want to
you know, you know, whatever you want to do, you
want to do, but there is a frequency attached to food.
When you remove food completely, it quiets the body completely
because now it's not working because normally, when you eat
three meals a day, your digestive system is working NonStop
basically all the time. You barely have a moment to
rest only when you sleep, and even then it's still
and if you have a late dinner or something like that,
it's going for hours. So you never give it a time.
So I've done fastest before, I've done juice fastest. I've
done a month of juice fasting before, and I've done
weeks and things like that back in the you know,
a decade ago, and I remember what my body felt like.
So as as you start to when you do the fast,
I feel that the frequency in your body changes. Yes,
the frequency in your body changes, yes, because you are
trauma leaves literal trauma. There's a lot of things that
because of the quiet. It's again going back to the quiet. Yeah,
when you can get when you quiet this system down.
And it's not, by the way, it's not that the
body stops working. If anything, it kicks in a thousand
other things which.
Speaker 2: It kicks in key tones. It kicks in your immune system,
it starts to bring.
Speaker 1: It's like it stones all this amazing. Stay, it's amazing.
Speaker 2: What's literally like God saying, just stop interrupting me. It
just stop. Like we've built your skalls.
Speaker 1: We've built the perfect machine. Yeah, stop messing with it. Yeah,
let us do what we're doing. So my point is
that the frequency starts to open up to change when
you start to change. And then let's say you're fasting
and meditating, yeah, actually doing a spiritual practice of some sort,
your frequency starts to rise, yes, to a certain extent,
when you start to rise. And I want to hear
what you think about this. When your frequency rises, just
like a radio station, you're going to start picking up
things that, yes, it was not on that band before
you're on ninety six point five, before you are in
ninety three point t.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you can't get anything higher than that high,
Like it's the high. So really take in this idea
that I was saying earlier about that the you that
you think you are, that that what you call you like,
whatever you think you need in a relationship, whatever your
your goals are dreams. I want to offer this idea
that that idea that you think of as you is
the flip side of a coin that the other side
of a coin is a dark trauma. Like for instance,
I'm a huge achiever, could be so what someone says,
because I can't be a failure when I was five obviously,
and if you if a person felt they failed when
they were five, they got spanked, whatever, they're literally their
body goes into trauma and goes we have to create
a character, right that that can come up with a solution.
So imagine that when you have like a parent walkout
and you're just traumatized from it. You get yelled at,
someone tells you, you know, people tell you there's hell
when you die. These kind of things, right, make a
person feel trauma and the kid, as a child can't
process that trauma. So the kid. What the kid does
is creates a character that we then call I that
whatever it is that was scary, So I'm going to
become a people pleaser. Oh you know, I was spanked,
So I'm going to feel the room and become what
we call it as an mpath. And then people that
are mpaths, they think that they're there for others, but
you're actually in service to protection of self by being
there for others as a preventative from getting spanked again
when you were five. The reason I bring this up
is because that five year old is what's running most
of our lives. It's running your relationships, your business, and
we call that I. And so the most that five
year old from nineteen eighty two can do is nothing
compared to what the actual you that's here can do.
And so most of us create an identity out of
don't hurt me again, because and when I find when
I meditate long enough or when I fast, I'm creating
a field that's so big that the universe goes. Now,
I can show you that wound that I couldn't show
you when you were five. You're too busy and you're
too well, you were too busy, and your solution actually
was successful. Like there were two times my dad spanked
me and it was really bad, and that changed me
and my dad's number one love language I felt was
watching stand up comedy, so I became a comic. I
thought that was my childhood dream. But I actually wonder
if that was me protecting myself from getting hurt or
having dad at least pay attention to me. Now think
about that, I'm thinking it's my dream and then I
had a successful twenties and early thirties as a comic,
so it served a purpose. But it served a purpose
to a point, and eventually there's a part of me
that goes, I want to know more of the truth
of what I am. So I had to leave that thing.
If I kept the comedy, I'm also keeping the trauma
that made me the comic.
Speaker 1: Right. But Kyle, the thing is for you to leave.
I mean, I want people to really understand what you did.
You had an extremely successful stand up career. You were
on your way to being you know, you know, a
household name, you know in many ways, you were in movies,
you had you know, number one comedy specials. Yeah, you
were on your road. And both you and I have
a lot of friends who are comic, so I understand
the mind of a comic, which is terrifying. Yeah it is.
Speaker 2: Well, it's been healed.
Speaker 1: You're good.
Speaker 2: You're good now, it's healing a lot.
Speaker 1: But you walked away and everybody in the business thought
you were insane. Everybody thought you were going to just
like what is he doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was also going through a thing where I
had at one point the next phase of my life
was wanting everyone in the world to know about Tony Robbinson,
wanting everyone to know about their achievement and possibility. And
I went, you know, from an anxiety that was so
horrible to number one special. So the highest I knew
was I want to tell other people they can do this.
The downside to this was I was suddenly this positive
guy doing spiritual stuff in a field of people who
are cynical for a living yes, and so I didn't
know that people would be like, that's are you a
cult leader? Are you a scientologist?
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden my friends that were my
peers were mad at me or you know, thinking I'm crazy.
Speaker 1: And know the feeling.
Speaker 2: And it was and I realized later that was the
next phase of my spiritual journey. In order to get
to the next phase, I had to release control of
what people thought of me.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And that was really huge because I noticed the one
who tries to control what people think of me is
me at five. It's me trying to manage my mom's
opinion of me, or to look good to my dad,
or because in my pattern, if I'm not successful as
a stand up comic, I'm going to get bullied in
high school or beaten by my dad, you know. Like,
so my patterns are the ones that are keeping the
career alive, and instead of me keeping the career alive,
so I don't have to face these things, I'd rather
just heal the wounds and hear what God wants for
me from a higher frequency. So I noticed at one
point that I was feeling not seen by those comics
and also at the same time feeling there's something higher
that's bigger for me. And I don't mean it like
comics are not as big or something. There's tons of
comics that I worked with that I'm so inspired by
and proud of that I knew very well. But now
I'm in this place where I just it doesn't call
to me to go into a comedy club and perform
for a drunk audience nearly as much as to like
hear what's coming through me. And the number one intention
I have on this planet is to know what I
truly am, not know what I am good at, not
know what I can get views for, not know what
I do, not what am I And so that's making
me not ask what do I do? But what's here?
And I'm okay sacrificing. Yeah, maybe I didn't have that career,
but I felt my soul didn't want it. And just
because something looks good to everybody else or just because
at one point it was my dream career doesn't mean
it's always going to be. Like you can truly listen
to your soul and even outlive your dream and like
out and have a new dream following, and it starts
to be not even a dream, Like my dream isn't
what's the next career? My dream is? Like what do
you want to tell me right now? Like how what
a weird concept to what could what if I could
feel good in my soul no matter what I do?
You know, Stop it isn't that weird? Stop it like
what if you know?
Speaker 1: Like are you a cult leader? Are you in scientology?
Speaker 2: There's times where I'm like, I find my heart wants
to be like like just for my soul, like it
was I love to just have a regular job, like
I wouldn't have to even hold space for or do
all this, Like I could just like go shovel bricks
somewhere shovel bricks. See how bad I'd be at it?
I like I'd move bricks and shovel dirt. But I
found it like be like, I bet I'd have like
eight hours a day just moving my body, hearing my heart, Like.
Speaker 1: I promise you sure you're gonna feel it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying that's it. I'm just saying here first,
whatever after, like, I'm not defined by what I do.
And I think one thing that really hurts people is
they're defined by their money or their lack of their
victim story, their achiever, what they do, how many views
they have, how many views they don't have, what what
people think of them. Like, if you are what people
think of you, then then you're screwed because that person
likes you and that person hates you. So what do
I just be like, Hey, I'm great, No, I'm darable
because you're in the room like there's there's it's It's
one of the things about the ego that's so amazing
is it makes no logical sense.
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Speaker 2: If all you have to do is just get closer
to it and look at it, and it's caught. Like,
for instance, there's people that have a pain in their body,
that they're not enough. You know what I asked them,
I asked the ego, okay, just so we know and
can get this person do enough? What do you define enough?
And the ego has to stay vague. It can't answer
because the ego's basis is on that you're not enough,
and the ego only thrives on me making you enough.
But if you finally get enough, then the ego dies.
So it has to keep making not enough be the
thing you are. But if a person says I have
this deep pain that I'm not enough, I will say, okay,
so just so we know. To the ego, when is
she enough? Right is it when she hits a million dollars?
When dad says that, it'll never give you an answer me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The ego isn't based on any reality, and so the
ego loves to complicate things. It loves to say you
will be enough when you have this, but it has
to base everything on your still not and then when
you get this, you will be and then you get it.
But the ego's like, well, I can't die. I'd rather
listen to the now. And this thing that has to
sabotage everything so it can overcome it. I'd rather it die, right,
I would rather just become okay with what I am,
no matter what I'm doing, no matter how famous or
not famous, how good I am at something or not,
because we are basing our life on starting off that
I'm not enough or that I can achieve, so that
I can achieve. And I had an incident happen to
me I told you about in another room. I had
an incident happened to me about a week ago that
really helped me heal something. I was on my way
to a friend of mine JP JP sears. I was
going to his house to shoot a sketch. And I'm
in a turn lane. There's two lanes here on the highway,
two lanes here right. I'm about to turn left, and
in the oncoming turn in my turn lane right is
a guy coming this way. He's passing a semi so
it's a giant Bronco going like one hundred and ten
miles an hour. He's not looking forward, he's looking at
the truck. And I see this thing as coming straight
at me and I'm driving forward. I had to merge
into the back into the other lane to get out
of the sky's way. He almost clipped me. I turn
left and I drive into JP's house and I sit
in the driveway and I just had this moments like
that was so that my whole life almost ended. And
I sat there and I just felt for a second,
and all of a sudden, the space started showing me
people that I know, hearing that I died. It started
showing me like my daughter, my wife, my daughter's mom.
And this was the weirdest thing. And I don't want
this to sound egoic, but it helped remove something in
me that was the opposite of this. I noticed in
that I'll probably be emotional with this, but I noticed
that people cared and they would be sad if I
was gone. And there was this bizarre like revelation that
just went through, like my best friend Justin and JP
finding out and everybody and you and I was just
like feeling they cared. And what's weird is with our ego,
we have a lie in our body that is I
will be enough when I achieved something. I will be
enough when I make the money. And it's predicated on
because no one cares about me now, and there is
a dark tunnel in our bodies. And I will say
especially for men right now too. I'm not saying women
don't have it too, but men have this other world
of they are what they achieve, so when they get
that outcome, that's there, but on a higher conscious level level,
it's still an addiction that covers up the pain inside.
And men also have the shadow of you know, man up,
don't feel your feelings, and so there's like this almost
required to be successful, dark shadow that we can't really
talk about. That just feels like who cares if I die?
Other than they get the money or other than this thing.
They care about that, but they don't care about me.
You know, that's just in It's not blame to anybody,
it's just in order to achieve, I have to be
a joke here first, right, And I felt that wash
away when I felt there would be people that really cared,
and it was in a way humbling because the same
voice that says no one would care also has to
think I'm the best in the world because of my
performance versus that I exist. And so the ego that
thinks I'm better in everyone I have to be look
at me because of my fame or how many views
do I have or do people like me or I
make this money has this shadow but also compares and
thinks it's better then And when I saw that, oh
my gosh, like people would really care if I died,
Like I think there would be people that ki It's like,
it's weird.
Speaker 1: I hate to tell you, so if there would be
a few people that like.
Speaker 2: Here, well, you know what's really embarrassing to say is
there's a thing in my heart that very often doesn't
feel that. And I know that when I work with
my friends and my clients and my world, that we
all have that thing that like like I'm worthless because
the world is so based on achievement and what's happening
outside comparison social media, what people think that there is
a worthless thing and then that's covered up with what
I can do. But your worthiness is your existence. I
don't mean to sound too much like Bashar, but your
worthiness is that you exist. And it's such an f
you to God to say I'm worth something when I
achieve even I have to find my purpose is such
a weird sentence because we forget that our hard moments
were on purpose. Like when you fell off and you
hit a low was on purpose. It resteered you re
awoke you. So I now believe I'm always on purpose
and even when I do something that's a distracting comfort,
I'll learn from it and be like, oh I hate
that I did that. Or if I do something too egoic,
it readjusts you.
Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing that you start looking at you know,
you don't ever see a tree deal with this, never
see an animal deal with like.
Speaker 2: If it had social media and Netflix, it would I.
Speaker 1: Mean it's just I mean, like, am I the good tree?
But I'm not a sequoia? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But imagine if every tree was raised by tree parents
that are like you better be a doctor or a
lawyer and screw your dreams and you know what I mean,
like or just abandoned. You be sucking at making apples.
Speaker 1: And your apples would be sour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd be terrible. And you're sitting there. Do they
like apples? Am I more of a para?
Speaker 1: Is my more of a pear tree? Yeah? Like all
of that ego X stuff, But I really want to
be is an avocado tree? Right?
Speaker 2: That's going to be my dream. And it's like to
rebel against your parents who told you you better be
an apple tree right, like it's just so stupid and
this whole should world is the lie. And I believe
as we go into twenty twenty six that's going to
fall out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's going to be really loud and die.
I think that we're I think we're going through We're
going through such a shift in humanity right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, such a massive every day tomorrow this will feel
like a year ago.
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy. I mean, it was just yesterday twenty
twenty started, just yesterday, just yesterday twenty twenty started, and
I just it just man, it took off like a
freight train and has not let up. I wanted to
ask you before we continue into the twenty I want
to hear your thoughts on twenty twenty. Yeah. Sure, you
were talking about enough, and that is a very powerful idea,
the power, the power of enough, because most of us,
especially in the West, want more and more and more.
Hence why our planet is turning into what it's turning into.
Corporations are doing what they're doing, but specifically I wanted
to hear your thoughts on you know, we have more
billionaires and in our lifetime we will have a trillion
in our lifetime, which sounds insane. Elon's halfway there. What
do you think is happening? Because that's a disease. There's
because when you have a billion dollars, let's just say
you and me each have a billion dollars, that's more
money than a human being, an average human being can
spend in multiple lifetimes, I mean generational wealth. That's why
I love the story of JK. Rowling. She keeps giving
going on the Forbes liston coming off, because she just
keeps giving it away. She's like, the first person to
drop down. I was a billion of but I don't
want to be in a billionaire She's like, hey, you know,
she was on welfare living in a car when she
was writing Harry Potter, so she kind of has an
understanding of what the realities of things are.
Speaker 2: So she's like, I don't need two billion dollars.
Speaker 1: I'll give a billion away. But I'm curious about the
disease of this, I need more and more and more,
the consumption of like I need more, I need more,
I need more. What is happening to not only individuals,
because there are obviously some very famous billionaires out there
who just keep wanting more and wanting more and wanting
more and wanting more as opposed to just like like
perfect example. And I don't want to go too deep
into this, but what's happening with Warner Brothers right now?
Warner Brothers. So Warner Brothers is Netflix. Netflix is buying
Warner Brothers. But then Paramount, the Ellisons, who are billionaires
are doing a hostile trying to do a hostile takeover
of Warner Brothers. And I'm going, what's wrong with you people?
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor
and now back to the show, Like it's just more,
I need more, I need more, I need more constantly.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't know if it's well, one
of the things is it's not truly the highest, but
it's so rewarded that they don't hit the wall. Meaning
like if you're a billionaire and you're in you're a
lot of them grew up in worlds that weren't checked too,
meaning like you and I, if we go off course,
life corrects you and makes you look at yourself and
humbles you if you're grown in these people that are
born to parents that were in these kind of other
secret worlds and different things like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but many of them, but many of them, like
you know.
Speaker 2: Well even separate from that. Yeah, when you if you're
if you're able to keep the good thing coming in
that fills that thing, why do you want to stop?
Then you're not having any reason to look at yourself.
You know, you don't hit a wall, you don't have
to go inward and go is money the only thing?
And it's not until that thing gets hit that we
finally look at the boy inside. I mean millionaires eventually
some not all go to a Buddhist monk for advice, yes,
but the reverse never happens. Right, there's no Buddhist monk going,
I just need the Lamborghini And how do I how
do I eight figure? Like there's none of that?
Speaker 1: How can I grind?
Speaker 2: And I mean I'm enjoyed that. That's funny because it's like.
Speaker 1: That's not it's insane. So that's actually really truly profound.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no Eckhart like need more. It's like now,
not later, you know, like it's just and so we're here.
I'm seeking the highest truth and I would give up
everything for it, right because it's more rewarding. Like I
did say merge me with my soul, no matter what
the cost, and I want my soul and it's better,
And people go, how could you do that? What about
this and this and this? And I say, you don't
get what your soul can do, like you don't get
how miraculous worth it. Like life will take care of
those issues when you are merged with your soul and
the ones that are the billionaires. Often there's no leverage
to ask for that because there's just a constant. If
you're going to Vegas and you hit a slot machine
that keeps paying out, you're not going to walk away
from it. It's when you finally start losing the next
morning that you go, I got to do something with
my life and you leave the casino.
Speaker 1: But that's the adversity we were talking about before. That
was the thing that leaves you a comfort because in
the month it keeps coming in, it's comfortable. It's like
boom boom boom.
Speaker 2: So then wouldn't the low the next day be on
purpose too? For a person? In other words, people think
their purpose is to make as much money as possible
impact people with that money. But sometimes life will throw
a curveball and go you're hitting a slot machine that's losing. Now,
now you're going to go through being that person that
sits and lives at the slot machine for a good
month and loses all your money because I need you
to hit a wall, because your soul asks for deeper.
And some of those billionaires, their soul maybe does does
later in time, maybe their soul will hit something, but
right now their soul isn't asking for deeper, it's asking
for more. And that's the journey they're on. People like
you and I and anyone listening to something like let
of those wouldn't listen to this. In fact, probably my
most triggered audience is is millionaire men. When I say
you're just the now, the guy that's like, I got
ten Porsches in the garage, FU I earned that. I
want to be my accomplishment. And I'm like, yeah, you're
just now now. It's more profound than all you've achieved.
But most people are like, no, I am this doctorate,
I am this eight figures, I am the money. F
you for saying I'm the now. I want to know
how I can get more. I'm going to listen to
the speakers that teach me how to get more and
more and more. That's fine at one point if your
soul wants it, if your soul was meant to you'll
hit a wall and you'll be so happy later you did.
You have to learn stuff on the way, and it's
going to be the death of the wounded you that
needed to get more. But this is why it's funny
to say my purpose is this, because sometimes life will
go I'm going to throw you off this because I
have a higher purpose for you. So I find I'm
always on purpose, whether I'm talking to you on a
big stage, I'm peeing, I'm on a date with my
wife lying down on the couch. It's funny to be like,
your purpose is only this grandiose thing or how you
measure that you've impacted the world that way. But I
think of everything as purpose, Every dark time, every fall
apart with a friend, everything was right.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: It's it's so right that it almost feels like everything
I've ever gone through almost feels scripted. And that's why
I even question. A lot of people would challenge this,
and I just go even farther with it. I even
wonder if there's free will. I know that we make
free will decisions but something in our awareness made us
choose that decision.
Speaker 1: So, if I may quote the oracle, yeah, in the matrix, yes,
this exact things like free will. It's like, do you
want do you want this piece of candy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the oracle.
Speaker 1: Yes. He's like, well, if you're an oracle, you should know.
He goes, Oh, I know. He's like, but what going
to scramble your brain is you've already made the decision,
that's already been done. Yeah, you're here to figure out why. Yeah. Yes,
that is such a profound idea because and then you
start pulling back to a bird's eye view of our
soul and our journey and our life. If you do
have a blueprint, a sole blueprint, if you are on
the other side going in this life, I'm going to
be a stand up comic. I'm going to be born
to this. These parents who are going to make me
want to become a stand up comic because I got
to go through all of that. I'm going to become famous.
But then I'm going to reject all of that and
I'm going to go down the spiritual path. Then I'm
going to fasten then talk to this guy nam out
So all of that, right, we're here not to figure out.
And there is free will, There's no question there's a version.
I mean, how you get to point I can get
up and do whatever the hell I want? Right, Yes,
there is free will, but there are and I always
say this, mile markers in our life. And how we
get to those mile markers is up to us. But
there are mile markers that we laid down. So we're
here to figure out why did we put those mile
markers there? Why are we choosing to put our soul
through this? And if you start thinking about your life
that way, holy crap, you.
Speaker 2: Know a way that I actually see it? This is crazy.
I want you to picture that there's a higher me
floating above this me, right or I would be the
higher self. And he's going, He's going, Kyle, I'm here, yes,
And then Kyle gets caught in oh, my stand up
comedy is really successful right now, and he's like, oh
he's shoot, he's all excited about that. He's not paying
attention to me. And then like the Kyle's all egoic
and going like, oh I'm doing I am in comedy,
and this Kyle above is going, Kyle, do you not
hear and it's like, Okay, screw up his comedy career,
make him want to quit it, right, And then I
get over here and then I'm like, Okay, now I'm
a spiritual speaker and I have this stuff. But then
let's say I get caught in the identity of being
a spiritual speaker, and I'm like, I got more views
and I'm doing so great, and look at me as
a spiritual I'm so great. I'm a spirit Kyle's like,
screw up his spiritual career, right, And then you go,
I get in a relationship. Oh, I'm seen by the woman.
She's so great. I'm finally seen. And this Kyle's above going,
he's not paying attention to me. Now she's the answer
to everything, and he's making her his God sabotage that relationship, right,
and and everything is me getting closer to the real
me versus the pattern that has to to make sure
my dad isn't mad at me, or that my you know.
And so like life keeps throwing us off course from
what our ego wanted, and then we got a course
correct and we get closer to it. So if you
picture there's an Alex above you going like that it goes,
throw off the thing, give him an accident. Okay, Kyle's
not paying attention. He's more excited about shooting a sketch
than his life. Make a car almost hit him. You
know what I'm saying, Like, send in the bronco and
the and then Okay, he's now more and okay he's
going to spend the next week crying out of gratitude. Cool,
that dark wound that has to achieve is out. This
is how I'm a little bit seeing life. I'm getting
closer and closer to the real me. And that connection
is more profound and more important to me than making
a certain politician your god, making an outcome your god,
making money your god. Whatever you think is more important
than your soul. If you get too caught in that
and you have an awareness like we do, life will
knock that out of your hand to get you see
that you're okay without it. I think money's the answer
to everything, and you have something in you that wants
to do this thing for real, Like we're on this
planet to get to the truth of what we are.
I'm not here to make the most money. I'm here
to you know what I mean, get to what I
am life will go, Oh you're caught in that egoic thing.
I'm gonna knock it out of you. Now. The people
that are you're talking about like that are the trillionaires
and stuff like that that are that keep going. I
don't know that they're they're they were asking for that.
They might have been like, I'm at a consciousness whor
I want to experience being a trillionaire, and so life's like, okay,
that's yours. I feel like someone like you or I. I.
Did you ever hear the study that was out recently
that's really profound to me. They did a thing I
think I told you about this before. They they took
mice and they made a cherry blossom scent, and when
the mice smelled it, they shocked the mice. Right, they
did it again. Cherry blossom smet the mic. They did
this over and over till the mice were Pavlov's dog conditions.
The scent equals this. Those mice had kids. They didn't
shock the kids, but they put the scent out. The
kids got scared.
Speaker 1: They did.
Speaker 2: Those ones had kids. These ones didn't get shocked, made
the scent. The grandchildren got scared. Five generations I believe.
Speaker 1: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. So that's this is
ancestral trauma.
Speaker 2: So this is what I oweay that I see this
imagine some people might say we're incarnated. Whatever it is,
I totally honor that. I think the reason the world
feels heavy to some people is not because you were
reincarnated from a harder thing. I think many of us
came here from just light and this was the heaviest
planet ever and were exhausted because it's got so much
going on. Like I have people that are like, I'm
so hard at tired of this world. I think I
was reincarnated, And I believe if I was witch burned,
and I'm like no, then this would be like the ritz.
If you're a rich witch burned, I think you came
here from a light. Now what if? What if I
think about my ancestors and just the world before a
long time ago, when we're talking great depression, slavery, vikings,
whatever it is, right and it's going down the line,
and I see this is happening, and you and I go, Okay,
I'm going to be the light worker for all the
traumas that my parents didn't light work from the ancestors before,
and so how am I going to do that? I'm
going to take on my dad's pain, yep, and I'm
going to hold the wounds that he had, and then
as I get older, I'm going to alchemize them right
so that my daughter and future generations don't have to
go do this. So that's so when people are like,
what's my purpose, I really feel that if they're someone
that would follow our content, You're a light worker. You're
here to alchemize pain and move healing to go, you know,
to to make frequencies different. So you know, it's so funny.
My wife Amber and I and my daughter Vivis sometimes
we will go to concerts of enormous nineteen seventies ban vands.
My eight year old daughter has seen the Eagles, Earth
Wind and Fire and Heart and Indigo Girls Melissa Ethridge
and my wife and I also the Elo And I'll
tell you something really, really really weird. We get about
seven eight songs in and we are exhausted, and the
room is full of seventies and eighty year olds who
are bet are their mind that are fine? How come
my wife and I in our forties are more exhausted
than the people in their seventies and eighties. I believe
it's because people like she and I are here transcending
the unconscious crap that our parents didn't transcend, all the
guilt and shame that my dad felt. He didn't go
to anyone and bring it to life. He didn't heal it.
He kind of distracted himself with a TV a lot
and his work. My mom didn't go to therapy and
do the inner healing work, right. I love my mom.
I missed both my parents. My dad passed away three
months ago actually, and I am here taking that pain
that they had and like actually alchemizing it and changing
it so I don't pass the crap that I had
to hold to my daughter. And I believe that's partly
why the room could be full of seventy and eighty
year olds loving every song of the Eagles till the
end of the concert at eleven. They're getting drunk, They're fine.
That's because a lot of those people aren't doing any
inner work on the traumas in their body. They're just
they're just drinking, distracting and going. My wife and I
are exhausted because we're healing ourselves of the wounds that
we collected from the earlier linear lines. Right. So I
find that the more unconscious you are, the more you
can handle this life like and be up late and
do whatever, because you're not facing your traumas, you're not
light working. Yeah, and us people that are doing the work,
I'm like, oh God, I just cried this thing out, like,
oh God, dude, I started b We did an event
this weekend called Out with the Old, In with the Now,
and the premise of the event and it's now a
video that we're offering people that I'm so proud of.
But one of the things we did is we're meditating.
We meditate, we hold the stuff. I noticed that when
I meditate, man, it'll be like some dark stuff comes up,
some pain. I don't know what it is. But the
longer I meditate, the more it finally starts to reveal itself,
all this pain. That pain comes up. Yesterday, I had
a flash I'd never seen before. I'm meditating. I go
about an hour and a half with the audience, Right,
I'm just meditating. I get a flash out of nowhere.
It shows me a very clear vision of me homeless,
and I'm like, I've never had that fear. I've never
I have no idea why that's here. But I then
told my wife about it. My wife Amber, I told
her and I just said, I have this thing that
I feel like this things show up and it showed
me me homeless. And then I said, and how humiliating
that would be to be homeless in front of you?
And then I started crying and I had this subconscious
thing and I was like, I don't know if this
is from a great grandparent that was homeless. I don't
know if it's an egoic construct that had me on
a linear timeline where I was going to be homeless
in the future. But I just healed it. Did that
make sense?
Speaker 1: Like yeah?
Speaker 2: Or it could be a past life, or it could
be a past life, or could be a fear that
was so deep in there. I never knew it was there.
But I cried it out, I released it, and then
guess what, I finished the event And I was so tired.
Why Because I just let go of a ton of
bags that my energy field had been holding for forty
eight years. So that is exhausting to keep dying. It's
like every day. People that are light workers having birth
over and over. We're just going into labor. A woman
who gives labor, she's tired the next day, right, and
so people are like, why am I so tired? All
the way, You'll notice it's mainly conscious people that ask that.
It's because you're literally dying over and over and over
again to your truer self. And our body is just
full of a bunch of false patterns that if we
get in the now, will come to light and dissolve
and disintegrate. And then you get people are like, I
don't know who I am anymore. That's correct. When you
did know who you were, it was a lie. That
was the close of the false self. Just because it's
unfamiliar doesn't mean it's not. You like more and more
when I get closer and closer to it, I don't
know who I am, which means I'm actually who I
really am.
Speaker 1: So if you look back, I mean we were talking,
wasn't that it was amazing? It was amazing When we
were talking earlier before we started recording, you were talking
about looking back at you a different person who used
to be, And you know, I look back at who
I was last year, last, six six months ago, even,
But you really go back and you look twenty years.
It's like I haven't gone to a high school reunion
because I just got nineclined to do so. But I
imagine that if I did go back, you'd see some
of those people. I'm like, oh my god, they haven't changed. Yes,
holy crap. They're the same human being. They're acting the
same way, they're doing the same things. Where I look
back at myself, like I said, six months ago, a
year ago, five years ago, she completely I don't even
recognize that. I don't. I just don't recognize them. And
we're constantly being pushed forward by what we're dealing with
on a daily basis. It's it's it's fascinating to see.
But when you find someone that you meet every once
in a while, you meet someone from your paths, and
you go, man, you you really haven't changed.
Speaker 2: And even though I'm just projecting what I wouldn't want
on them, do you know how sad that is? That
that means they're just holding shame, guilt and regret. Like,
if you're not changing, you're just carrying all this baggage. Now,
the people that are doing that might have a lower awareness,
so they're fine with it. Oh ye, yeah, there's like,
if you're fine being a caterpillar and don't get you
might become a butterfly. You're cool. There's some people whose
awareness literally is did my football team win? And where
are my cheetos?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Good, there are my cheetos?
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I don't have that. And the pain that we feel,
I believe doesn't correlate with where you are as much
as how aware you are from what you're living. That
is where like, the more I meditate, the higher my
awareness goes. So if I live in any way that's
not in accordance with that higher self.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I can think of a lot of people I know
who are very artistic and creative and magical. I can
think of them getting into relationships with people that are
very stagnant and addicted, and very often when that happens,
the aware one who is like an artist and musical
and whatever. I can think of people very close to me.
They are aware, they could be more, but they have to.
You know, A butterfly married to a caterpillar has to
move at the pace of the caterpillar, right, and very
often the butterfly that clips their wings to stay. They
often get sick much bigger than the caterpillar, or they
die early. I believe very much. My mom was very
artistic and creative and was in a relationship that nothing
but love to the guy, but I felt it was
very stagnant for her, and she got sick and ill
and died at sixty nine. And I have a friend
whose mom was so loving and open hearted and married
to an alcoholic and died young. And I just feel
like the more you're aware, if you don't live in
accordance with your awareness, you're going to really suffer. But
the ironic thing is the guys that I just mentioned
that were with those women, They're sitting on the couch, drinking,
gonna live forever. Do you get what I'm saying? Yes,
because their awareness is low, so they're they're not in
the curse of being the butterfly clipping their wings. They're
just chill watching CNN is fine.
Speaker 1: And then that's where I've met a lot of near
death experiencers. Who are those guys mm hmmm and gals
who then all of a sudden had this, Yeah, they
had a near death experience, and that cannot not change
you can't unsee it. And by the way, even when
they come out sometimes you're like, that's just too weird.
I'm not gonna deal with it, and they'll they'll stuff
it down for years, yes, decades, and then then the
sicknesses and then something and then something will eventually pop
that they can't hold onto it anymore. Yeah, I mean,
the the will be right back after a word from
our sponsor and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: They's like, you better go into magic, phil like, you better,
like literally, you're when they'll higher your awarenesses. It's like
you almost have to start living from the frequency of miracles.
You can't. You cannot go back to a three D
world once you've experienced sixth Imagine if Neo got out
of the matrix and it was pushed back in it
and just tried to numb it, like tried to do
what the other character did who wanted to be ex Yeah,
I wanted to do.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: If he can't unsee this now, and so if he's
if he was married to someone inside the matrix who
didn't know, or he tried to do the habits of
inside the matrix, he would get aggressively sick really quickly.
Speaker 1: But remember with Cipher, he actually asks a RaSE my memory.
Speaker 2: Well he has to he has to not know right,
so he could go back if he can have the
ability to have his memory.
Speaker 1: Or he wanted to be the guy who by my
football team win, wear's my cheetahs. Yes, that's what he
didn't want.
Speaker 2: The truth and the message of that is he wouldn't
be able to live there if he had the awareness.
The thing what we don't get is that we're scared
to go to that magical world. But we don't get
it would be a magical war world like like we
have the curse of understanding of a miraculous literal course
and miracles side of the of the veil, and life
wants to do things very different in that frequency. And
so when we know what we know and then go
back to trying to just eat processed food and just
live the life that we're used to from the eighties
or nineties, when we have this thing where we know higher,
that's where that's where all our suffering is.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, man, because I'll tell you how
it feels for me. But we both took leaps to
get where we are today, multiple many, many, many.
Speaker 2: Many many handed a new one every few days.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, and now you are. But there are these big,
giant ones I left comedy. Yeah, that was a big
one for you. For me, it was I'm going to
leave my very successful filmmaking podcast to open up a
spiritual one. Yeah, that was a massive It was one
of the biggest risks.
Speaker 2: Which is crazy. I mean you had like Billy Crystal
on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, we had huge Yeah, it was.
It was a and it would I don't know where
it would be now if I would have kept going
down that road. I knew I wasn't fulfilled anymore. Yeah,
to a certain point where like after you've spoken to
eight hundred people about you know, being on set and
you know the hero's journey, you get to a certain
point where you're just like this is this needed more?
I needed more? And then the universe or Connie, my
spiritual guide, calls me and goes, it's time for you
to open up a spiritual podcast. But when I took
this leap, I could not have imagined, even in my
wildest race, where I am right now. Yes, if you
would have told me, I would have said, you're absolutely insane.
Speaker 2: Which is the weirdest thing about what a leap is
is that it's going to kill the frequency that was
trying to see what would happen. In other words, that
you in that first podcast or me and comedy literally
had no idea what was coming. No, and it had
to kill the one that needed to know when we
left and so that we could make room for it.
Where it's like you're you, you have to understand that
it will not show you what's on the other side,
and that way you'll move based on a feeling versus evidence. Right,
does that make sense? Also start to learn how to
move based on a calling versus I can see the
success of the podcast. I see the guarantee of the money,
you know, I see the next partner.
Speaker 1: So you know what's funny is when I was a
younger man, you know, psychics have been around my life
most of my life, and it's cultural with being Latino,
so it was just a thing. And early in my
early twenties, I was I just had to talk to
them constantly because I wanted to know what was coming,
what was coming. I was so fearful, what's coming, What's coming?
When am I going to make it big? When am
I going to do this? That's how I met Connie originally.
What's gonna happen, What's gonna happen, What's gonna happen where now?
I truly don't want to know, like I mean, And
I have a hell of a of a of a
rolodex of mediums, some of the best in the world.
Speaker 2: I never I have not to want up you, but
I have a bunch of psychic larges.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: But my point is, but their mediums is a good start.
Speaker 1: This is christ you. But the point is that I
don't reach out to them because I don't think I
need that anymore. I don't. I honestly don't want to know.
And sometimes I'll get information I'm like, well, this is
what's gonna happen in your show?
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, and that's probably because somewhere in your soul,
you know, the measurement of success externally and financially and
fame isn't the highest calling. I don't care like it's
more like what i'd ask a psychic. Although there is
a joy in just being in surrender and being in
the awe now, but what am I going to release?
What am I going to become? What does God want
for me, but I'll also find out, so.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get there anyway. But so the person that's
looking for that reassurance is someone who's scared and someone
who's fearful because you because if.
Speaker 2: You, which just means almost all of the world is
just scared. Well most of that's this reality thing is
just everyone's scared.
Speaker 1: Everyone's terrified. Everyone's terrified. That's all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but sight interact.
Speaker 1: But that's the point. Every this whole reality is based
on fear. Fear of being eaten by a tiger, fear
being fired, being feared, not being loved, fear. It's all fear. Yeah,
it's the ones who are not living in that world.
You can't have fear without time, that's true. You cannot
have fear without time's true. Yes, because you're only afraid
of what's because you're.
Speaker 2: Not saying what's going to happen right now, right and
when there's someone, when there's actually your house is literally
on fire, there's a gun man, your body actually kicks
in the fight or flight, so you totally don't need
fear at all. In other words, the ability to whatever
fight or flight if someone jumps out at you or
tiger is there or whatever is encoded in your body naturally.
So so I have to think about a tiger potentially
eating Yeah, Like, do you ever have it where you're
you know, you're driving in your car and you're on
the freeway, you turn, you turn back in the car front,
you stopped, and you slam on the brakes. Right now,
your body knew what to do. Now, imagine if you
were given a two month heads up that this moment
was coming. Imagine if you were Oh my god, you'd
be in your head, you'd be in fight or flight,
your body would be getting exhausted. You'd even probably dislodge
the natural ability to stop it because ego is going
to be in charge of it versus your natural fight
or flight that's there and was only needed for two
seconds to slam on the brakes. So fear is this
giant anticipation of what's going to happen, whether you're right
or wrong. And it's also a request for it. In
other words, you're aiming for it. Yes, And I have
a solution by the way to fear it. That's really crazy.
I have done some major work with people and discovered
that there's two ways that the universe is going to
help you with this fear. Whatever your fear is, there's
two ways that's going to help you to do it.
It's either going to make you experience it, because you'll
let go of it once you experience, Like if you're
sitting there going what if we divorce? What if we divorce?
The day after your divorce, you're like, well, that anticipation's done,
so you can let go of bit. But the other
thing is the fear comes from in your body. And
so when I was a younger, I have an eight
year old daughter, and when I was younger, I had
a massive fear that was really in my body that
I would lose her, like in a public place, that
we'd be in a Disneyland or a Costco, which in
itself is horrifying, but that I just look away and
I can't find her. Yeah, man, And I would have
dreams nightly that I lost her. Right one day, I realized,
this fear is coming from within, right, this is it's
coming up. It's coming up because it wants to be seen.
So I decided to in a meditation. This will sound crazy,
but let myself experience that she was taken away. Whatever
it's fearce I'm not trying to manifest it or thinking
it or putting on a vision board. I listen and
it just goes. This is what I'm scared of. It's
a pattern. Scared, it's a pattern. Scared that I'll fail
as a dad, that I do it wrong, that I lost,
It'll be my fault that I don't have my daughter.
I just sat there and listened, and I watched as
I felt it. I literally said, even in the dream
and the vision, goodbye to my daughter. Then I cried
out a false viv that I had been holding onto,
and I released her, and all of a sudden, I
felt like the five year old me that's trying to
keep everything together so I'm not in trouble, died with it,
And all of a sudden I had a presence. And
guess what did that make it more likely for her
to get stolen? No, I'm a million times more present.
I'm not in my egoic. You know the people that
are scared of getting in crashes, and they crash every week.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I have friends that are like, I have a thing
where I'm scared all crash.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: They call me once a week. They just got in
a crash like it's like because your egoic self is
trying to run it and you're not in surrender, and
the surrender you can do it so much more than
the control you. Right, So if you have a fear
something this sounds weird, let it happen.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: The fear just wants to be seen. So you can
either keep repressing it with addictions and distractions and life
will make you see it externally, or you take a
deep breath and you let your deepest fear happen. That
you're homeless, that nobody likes you, that you know you're
attacked by the world, that you die, you will discover
that the one that's scared is holding an avatar of
those things happening. Like in other words, it's like a dream,
like the person in the dream isn't actually you because
the person across is also in your dream. They're all
existing in you. Same with life, you're not actually worried
about the person outside of you doing something. You have
a world inside of you that's a false world that's
trying to die. And if you can get really present
your deepest fears will not just come up and then
you numb it a little. They leave, and all of
a sudden you realize you were not only carrying an
egoic self that was going to fail, you were also
carrying a world. In other words, there's a world that
matches the ego itself. If you have an egoic self
that says, no one's going to like me, you have
a world for that egoic self to not be wrong
where everyone doesn't like. In fact, it'll look for those people,
make it happen. So the more I get really present,
the more fears come up. I just listen to them.
They come to light, they become realized, and they die.
And then all of a sudden, a much more present
means here with God replacing those things and a much
higher powerful thing, and those fears don't exist anymore. Isn't
that nuts?
Speaker 1: It's insane?
Speaker 2: And so you start to realize fear was a false
self that was scared to do it wrong, that would
get spanked or yelled at by mom or whatever, needing
to die. And the reason fear is coming up now
is because it's ready to die. In general, in general,
if you have fear, What most people do is they
numb it, they drink, they put pills in whatever. But
if you let your fear be experienced as you become
a presence with the now, I believe you just purged
a world and a potential timeline that now isn't reality.
And I believe this even happens with external I had
a woman do work with me that she's so worried
that we're gonna have this world war and all these things,
and I let her feel it. She started crying. This
is on my YouTube channel as me working with the
trauma therapist. She says, okay, I can't say I love
you to my daughter, and I let her say that.
I let her and she just sat and cried it out,
and all of a sudden, I believe that she's now
going to see a literal different world, that she's now
not holding that same world out of fear. Like our
ego needs to have the same painful world match it.
You're going to because the number one thing the ego
can't be is wrong, so it has to be right,
so it creates a world that mirrors it. And I
believe as you become present, you purge that world. You
purge that false world, and it's like it's almost like
you're on an elevator and you're passing a floor of
a timeline, and that's my future. But if you keep
being on the elevator and letting it pass, then now
this is my future. Now, this is my future. Most
of us feel the fear and go you guys don't understand,
go to a therapist, talk about it. This is the
fear you're grabbing the floor. And the more you resist
the fear or repress it, the more you're aiming for it.
Speaker 1: Kle do you agree that. I mean, you said this
a couple of times that you have to look for
the answers within, and most people look for answers outside.
Speaker 2: Of yourselves for everything. Yes, so they repress the fear
with the external solution. I'm scared, I'll go broke. Oh good,
I have money. The fear still there, it's just under
the money, right.
Speaker 1: And then so then some of these billionaires are really terrified.
Speaker 2: They are they're totally terrified.
Speaker 1: And I'd imagine like, if you've been broke all your
life and you get a little bit of money, you're
afraid of losing it. Yeah, if you're you've been broke
and then you have twenty billion dollars. I've heard of
that from from people that have worked with that. I've
worked with that've said, I have billionaire clients who are
terrified of everything.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I tower in a sea of eight billion
people that you know.
Speaker 1: And they're terrified of losing twenty half of it, Like,
how can I live with only ten billion dollars? Yeah?
How can I live with only a billion dollars? Like
that's insane.
Speaker 2: They're usually telling someone on food stamps how horrified they are.
Speaker 1: Right, I think it was I forgot. I think it was.
I forgot what the comedian was. I don't know if
it's Chris Rock, but he said he's like it was
Chris Rock. He's like, you know Oprah, right, Oprah's rich,
but if Bill Gates woke up with Oprah money, he'd
kill himself.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, because you're acclimated to oh good, I
am that number. But also there's people that believe money
equals freedom, and what that means is you don't so
I have my freedom externally, So I lose my freedom
if this is taken away. So I got to guard it.
I gotta be protective because I'm so scared because it's
still not me, Like, I'd rather my soul equal freedom,
I'd rather my soul equal safety. I'd rather my sole
equal protection. No one can take that away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you look at the but you look at the
masters man. Even if you look at yogis who are
meditating in a cave, which are it's an extreme version
of this conversation. But they're not afraid of any of that. No,
they're not even afraid of not having food because they
go the universe will provide for me and they and
someone will show up with food or they'll get food.
Speaker 2: Because the idea that you have money means you're enough
doesn't actually make logical sense, right, So what makes sense
that you get to a place where you get your
enoughness is in you. It has to actually be that way,
not just a fun quote that you can get on
a sign at a cracker barrel. I'm saying, like, you
gotta get that.
Speaker 1: The old cockle barrel, the new cracker barrel, the other
one that went back to got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that you got to get that. You yourself has to
be the actual enoughness. And then boy does life mirror that.
Like in other words, if I get that there's some
fluke stories of billionaires, but as you said, they're all
freaking out that they'll lose it anyway. But if you
finally get to I'm enough and money doesn't make me more,
now you're safe for money to show up. I mean,
that's what we want in a relationship. I want to
date someone that's what we think. I want to date
someone who is enough in their wholeness, not someone that's
absolutely codependent on me or can't stand me. I want
someone who is in their enoughness. So imagine the universe
is going when you're enough, I'll take care of everything
right when you're But if your enoughness is in money
or a relationship or a fame or that everyone sees you,
I'm going to ruin that for you because you're you're
indirectly saying that your enoughness is based on something that
was separate from you, which doesn't make any logical sense anyway.
Speaker 1: There's jun Tim Fersush, Yeah, yeah, Tim, so Tim. Tim
a huge fan of Tim's work and what he's done
over the years. His book is one of the reasons
I even started a podcast four Hour work Week. It
was that book changed my life. When I read it
years and years ago, but Tim said something was really
interesting years ago. I never forgot it. He's like, you know,
I was really afraid of, you know, going broke. He
had that fear. And he's a very wealthy man, but
he was afraid of being broke. He's like, I wonder
what would happen if I was broke. So to get
over that fear, he decided to it's an experiment, sleep
on the floor at night. What would happen if I
was homeless. I'll stay in my house, but let's.
Speaker 2: Just it's like on a carpet in a mansion.
Speaker 1: Like don't okay, no, no, but that's literally what he did.
He literally is like, you know, I want to be uncomfortable.
I want to learn how to be a little uncomfortable.
So I'm going to sleep on the floor and I'm
going to eat beans for the week, just canned beans. Okay,
because he does that's the let's see how that's the worst.
Let's say it's the worst I can get. Right now
that I'm sleeping on the floor and eating beans every
day for a week, to prove to myself that it's
gonna be okay, Yes, to prove to myself so great.
Isn't that an amazing idea? Yes, like, you know, what
are you afraid of? Well, let's do that just for
a little bit, to give your ego a taste and go, oh, well,
this isn't that bad.
Speaker 2: You know, even I don't. I don't remember that. I mean,
I read it so long ago. But I'm so curious
if he got to also feel through the shame, like
if someone's you know, there's that, does that really believe
you're homeless? If you came out of.
Speaker 1: Someone who saw you in from high school or something like,
oh what happened?
Speaker 2: I remember Neil Donald Walsh had a movie version of
his book Conversation You probably.
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't have it. There's reasons, but yeah.
Speaker 2: There's just a scene where he's just sitting at a
dumpster like eating a sandwich someone dropped in there, and
I'm crying in my eyes. I know him too. I'm
sure he's yeah, of course, but like you know, you're
just feeling for him, but I'm feeling for the embarrassment,
the shame, the feeling of I didn't provide.
Speaker 1: That was you know, there's when he lived in that
homeless camp. Yeah, that that thing was rough man. Yeah,
like watching that movie with him when he and then
he finally got like he was in like a halfway
house or something when he started writing Conversations with God.
He barely had a job. He had a job, but
barely had enough to do.
Speaker 2: And isn't remember of that part too, when he started
getting a job at the radio and then they saw
him with another homeless guy that was harassing them. Now
there was there's a scene where he starts to get
a job at a radio station and they start to
like him, and he's kind of tricked them that he's
not homeless, right, and then they're at a restaurant. He's
sitting outside and he sees the woman that hired him,
and then like a homeless person comes in and is
drunk and inappropriate with her, and he loses his job,
and then later writes Conversations with God. So that thing
that he almost got might have almost him from from
getting conversations.
Speaker 1: Because he had to go he had to go through
that in order to get to the point where he
starts yelling at God, yes, we'll be right back after
a word from our sponsor and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: You feel that like so like It threw him off
course because it was taken him to conversations with God.
If he had just got the radio, he had just
got a studio apartment, been good enough, but we wouldn't
have all read conversations with God.
Speaker 1: So you know the story of you know my story
of like the dark Time, the darkest time in my
life with the movie right the would you the mob movie?
I do? But remind me so, I'm twenty and anyone
if they want to watch, they can read the book
or listen to it on next level sol TV. I
was twenty six, got hired by an ex mobster to
tell a story of his life, and then it was
a twenty million dollar movie. I spent the year with
him at a racetrack that's where our production offices were.
He threatened my life on a daily basis. By the
time I realized what was going on, I was in
and I couldn't get out because of fear, and I
was life. It was the most traumatic.
Speaker 2: Well, you were like, I can't if I get him out,
If I get out, I'll be killed.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, the threatening, life threatening conversation. So I
was like going to work with Joe Pesci from goodfellas,
like one day, like one moment, he is the funniest,
greatest guy to be hanging around with. Are you Am
I a clown? Am I clown? How do I amuse you?
It was that and I was not at twenty six
prepared for any of that wow mentally anything. So I
was basically just basically Hamburger meet for a year and
then to add to kind of add a little bit
more flavor to it. Then I I'm being flown out
to La and I'm meeting, you know, the producers of
the matrix. I'm meeting the biggest, you know, billion dollar producers.
I'm meeting the biggest movie stars in the world at
their houses about being in this project. So like Hollywood
took them here. I'm at the Chateau my mom. I'm
at the Ivy, I'm at Spago. I'm doing all. I'm
twenty I'm going along this insane ride for a year,
going back and forth, back and forth, and while my
life is being threatened till finally at the very end
of it, and I'm not.
Speaker 2: Getting paid well if at all.
Speaker 1: So I'm like just you know, just money, money, money
out in credit card, credit card, credit card, till finally
he lets me go. At the end, He's like, you know,
a kid's not gonna work out. I'm gonna have to
let you go. And then I'm just tossed into the
just tossed into the world, a shell of who I
used to be. Might imagine being so close to your dreams,
being this close to the biggest movie star in the
world at the time, saying hey, I want to work
with you, and it's gone. That's like worse than not
ever getting in the room at all. So going through
that whole I mean, right, I'd rather have not dated
the hot girl, like I don't want to. I didn't
want to, you know, I didn't want to have that experience,
you know what I mean. So you're in that world.
So then I'm thrown out into the world. I'm broke,
my girlfriend leaves me, my dog dies. I mean, it's
like it was like all sorts of I mean, it
was like I was at the lowest point of my life.
And though I never felt I was going to go
homeless because I have a family who loves me, but
I kept all of this from them. They didn't know
until I read wrote the book seventeen years later. Did
they realized what happened, and I was three days away
from signing bankruptcy paperwork because I had to protect myself.
I had to. So this is my Neil Donald Walsh
moment where I'd literally sit down in my house and
I yell out to God and I go, I want
to pay my debts, but if you don't help me
get a job because I couldn't get work. It was
so bad, dude, I went back to Hollywood Video. I'm
a professional, I've been I'm twenty seven at this point.
I went back to Hollywood Video to become a video
store clerk because that's the only thing on my resume
that I could do.
Speaker 2: Because I was bad that I feel relieved for you, Like,
I'm just like, oh, that sounds like a great job.
Speaker 1: I mean it would have been, but I would have.
I went back to the Hollywood Video and I put it
because I needed a job anything, and I couldn't get
a job as an editor.
Speaker 2: Do you know I worked at a Hollywood Video also.
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm sure you did.
Speaker 2: I didn't. They rejected me, They rejected quality. It was
not Hollywood anyway.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so I went there, so I got really
bad for me. I yelled out to him. I'm like,
I want to pay my debts, but if you don't
help me, I'm going to sign this paperwork because I
need to save myself. I need to protect myself. And
the next day, I get a call from my very
first boss who gave me my internship, and he goes, hey, Alex,
they're looking for an editor up in West Palm Beach.
I already told him about you. Just show up with
your reel and waiting to talk to you. I drove
up there with a reel show it got the job. Wow,
And I was a freelancer. Then I got another job
a week later, doing another freelance job, and then I
slowly started to work my way out of that hole.
Speaker 2: And like I said, I'll work, but.
Speaker 1: I need help. And that was the first time in
my life that I realized, oh, there's someone else watching it,
because it was just yes, it was just it was
too much. And then that started the chain of events
that I eventually left that job and then opened up
my own post production company and then started doing my
own shows and I did my first movie and I
started doing all this.
Speaker 2: Kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But it all started from that moment. Wow, And if
I wouldn't have gone through that trauma, which then, by
the way, held I held onto that trauma for seventeen
years that I didn't know I was. I pushed it
so far down that I didn't realize I had that
I had done that until I wrote the book and
all of it came back up. All of it came
back up, and I was like crying while I was writing,
and I'm like, oh my god. And then I started
looking like, oh, this is why every single time I
got in the room and I almost got a movie
made the way I wanted to it fall apart. It
was constant. It's constant decade of that decade to almost
two decade that I was like, bo, I'm in the room,
you know, the feeling, I'm in the room. I'm good
enough to be in the room. Why am I not?
Why does something keep stopping me?
Speaker 2: What's the point of this?
Speaker 1: And that's what it was. I was. I had. I
would not let go of that pain that was like fear.
Making a movie is painful, yeah, on a subconscious level,
but on the outside, I was always wanting to make it.
Speaker 2: You know, I I would offer, you know, one thing
that I've learned from doing the work internally and with
my clients. Is that one of the number one things.
And first of all, almost every one of my clients
is an EmPATH. Like they're you know, narcissists don't do
inner work, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're generally narcissist don't generally maybe I should give
a little bit instead of taking everything.
Speaker 2: Right, there's no like every every EmPATH I'm trying to
get them to receive. You don't do that to a narcissist.
Speaker 1: They've been right.
Speaker 2: So people that watch this just know you're probably an EmPATH, right.
And the number one thing I find is the as
the belief that's in them that we got to work
on is I have to do it all myself. Because
an EmPATH ends up in a relationship, usually with a narcissist,
or they end up just they became that way because
they got to take care of everyone else. So they
know what people feel. So they do all the stuff
and they do it all themselves, and they're also the
most resentful no one helps them. They're the ones that
they both say, I got to do it all myself,
and then no one helps them. The number one thing
I have empaths say is this literally and it breaks patterns.
Like I worked with the guy yesterday on our Out
with the Old, In with the Now course, I had
this guy say he was like he was talking about
his problems and I literally had to make him say
these words, and I meant to the universe, but I
had him say please help me, like literally just the
act of please help me. And I watched as just
that like brought some energetic shift where some higher frequency
open them up and the one that has to do
it all himself had to die a little bit. And
I didn't do this for me, but I'm like, literally,
it's like it's almost like empaths want help, but they
it kills their pattern that does it all themselves. So
it's like they're going into the surgery room but they're
trying to run it and they are one foot out
and they don't receive. They don't receive right. And the
you that was probably kicking butt with the but also
in this bizarre position with the mob, you know did
it all yourself and has to do it right, and
you hold it all and the second you were about
to sign bankruptcy papers and you ask God that was
that was a like that's in the song that was
a cold and a broken hallelujah. You know the song Hallelujah,
Like it's like they I love that song because they
say it's not it's not somebody. It's not a cry
you hear at night. It's not somebody who's seen the light.
It's a cold and it's.
Speaker 1: A broken hallelujah.
Speaker 2: What are they saying, Oh, it's that you get God
when you're in that low you have and it's and
it's down to Okay, I'm going to go through this
humiliating thing. It's humiliating to my character and pattern that
says who I am is what I achieve and how
much money I make and my success. So I'm going
to ask God. And by asking God, I'm going to
kill the one who's identified with I am this bankruptcy
paperwork or my solution to it. When you surrendered, you
killed the one who was identified with that, which made
room for the energetic response because if you were going
to sign that paperwork, you were heading towards that because
that was what you were identified as. So that one
was about to sign the paperwork, and had you not
asked for God, I truly believe there's a good chance
you wouldn't have got the call because that guy is
not able to receive money because the ego was in
charge of making the money, not God. And the second
you went God, help me come in here, you were
letting your control of your money situation die and you
handed it to God. And that's why everything is given
to God.
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Speaker 2: Like, Okay, this relationships falling apart? God, would you help
me with this? God might show up by being like
I'm going to actually knock it out quicker.
Speaker 1: Right, like sometimes like a little bit mercy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've had times where I'm like, this friendship's falling apart, God,
could you help me? And God's like, yeah, I'm gonna
make them disappear instantly. And then you go, oh, I
actually didn't like them. Like I've noticed something really interesting.
The people in my life that I'm worried will leave
my life are all people that when they do, I'm relieved.
Speaker 1: The people that's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Isn't that weird? The people you're worried will fall or
they might judge you, that's because you know they judge you,
and they do, you know, they have problems with you,
interesting because like I would never feel like Alex has
a problem with me, and if we do, will talk
about it absolutely. But I just know, like in a
not weird way, you love all of me. And I
have some friends that I just know that I would
never worry that they don't like me. But the ones
that I'm listening about are people that eventually it's like, actually, no,
it's good. It's like Tina Turner worried Ike is mad
at her. It's like, it's good. When he's gone, you're
gonna be You'll be more successful. It's gonna work out
for you to Yeah, and he's not around. But isn't
that story fascinating? And by the way, in my life,
I have a thing called the Ike and Tina Turner
test for people watching. If you don't know, I take
Ike Turner was who Tina Turner was originally with both
as a husband and a musician. I Turner presented to
Tina Turner, You're lucky to have me, right, He kept
all the money and said, you're nothing without.
Speaker 1: Definition of a beast relationship.
Speaker 2: And all the whole position is you're you're lucky to
have me, but you can look at nothing without me.
Speaker 1: You're yeah, you're not.
Speaker 2: You're nothing without me. And there's this thing that happens.
I've had people in my life that tell me that.
I've had people come in and tell me you got
to market this way and you need to do it
this way, and you're nothing without me. And then they
position themselves as they have Kyle Cec. They're on my stage,
they're doing all this stuff, and I realized, oh, they
need me. You get what I'm saying, and and I go,
I needed Tina. Yeah, Ike needed Tina. Tina did not
need was being abused at one point so much that
she finally let that low be I'm going to leave this.
Even though she didn't have the foresight we have of
what she was going to be. She just saw she's
leaving the fame of Proud Mary and Ike and Tina Turner,
and she had no idea what she'd be next. But
she left. And when she left, she said to the judge,
I don't want any money, I just want the name.
And then in that leap, she became Tina f and
Turner and I collapsed. So I have in my thing
when people are like, oh, you're nothing without me, I
think to myself, would I become Tina Turner if I
left this person? Like, I what was this like? Am
I holding up the ike energy that makes me think
that I'm you know? And really the people that have
left my life were people that actually had intense control
over me and wanted me to be what they wanted
and were mad at me that I wasn't what they wanted.
And when I finally let go, like I was just free,
and then all of a sudden, they say, oh, I
didn't want you in my life, and then they're just
talking about me more. It's just like, oh, like I
see like I did. Yeah, Like I like she was
nothing without me.
Speaker 1: I don't well her.
Speaker 2: So there's what's love got to do with That's proven
you wrong.
Speaker 1: So so when when she did, what's love got to
do with it? She was like I think, wasn't she forty?
Speaker 2: Yes? She was like forty. I think more than that,
Like when she I mean she died at like.
Speaker 1: Eighty no, yeah, So that means in the.
Speaker 2: Forty in the eighties, she was forty.
Speaker 1: She was at least forty. Yeah, And to be a
pop star star in the eighties, yeah, at forty is
it's unheard of. Yeah, it's just unheard of.
Speaker 2: What she did and became so legendary in that release.
Speaker 1: And then then that one song did it for her.
But then she just had this career that would not yeah,
give up, right, And there's a scene in that movie
What's Love Got to Do with It? If you guys,
if people haven't seen it, it's an amazing film with
Larry Fishburne is Ike. Yeah, and then Angela Bassaid is
Dina when she's about to go on and this is
a it's a very crucial moment. It's the moment she's
going to do a live version of what at the
Grammys or something of What Dreams at the end exactly,
And she's in the dressing room and Ike shows up
and it's like this final test, are you? And he
had a gun and he had a gun with him,
like I'm going to take.
Speaker 2: You out there. It's her final it's.
Speaker 1: Her final test because if she cracks, then it's all
for nothing. It's all for nothing. If she cracks, then.
Speaker 2: I fear can get her.
Speaker 1: But he had the gun there and he was threatening
her and he's like, what are you going to do?
And she just stood up to him.
Speaker 2: And what then he just you can kill me, Ike
if you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm already I'm already gone. I'm already done. It's over.
And she walked right by him and went back on stage.
She sung her heart out just thinking about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had no idea how spiritual that movie is.
Speaker 1: That is and then she and she became a Buddhist
and she found a lot of help in Buddhism to
get into her She found that was her path. Dude.
Speaker 2: I saw her live when she was like seventy, and
it was unbelievable. She was like, she was incredible. But
that is this that was her leaving the energetic weight
that a past her would take on and stay in
a relationship with someone like Ike Turner, Like she had
an energetic field that told her in her twenties probably
that she's not worth that much and so that would
keep her in that thing. But when she made the
leap that her died too. And that's why she started
despite the fact she had all that abuse, all that trauma,
she started getting younger and younger as she got older
and older.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, it's amazing. That's why I.
Speaker 2: Think that, you know, dude, when we're recording this right now.
It's three days after Dick Van Dyke's one hundredth birthday.
I don't know if you knows that. Yes, and Dick
Van Dyke, who's just been light in love, so you know,
I've looked it up, had battled with major alcoholism, all
kinds of dark shadows, huge, but then let go of
it and got freer. And that blew my mind because
like I think that we think like illness and crhosis
of the liver and darkness is from alcohol. It is,
but I think more it's from frequency. I think I
think that he you can heal yourself vibrationally. And I
believe that he always was truly a light and probably
just got stuck in hard times like we all go
through that dark numming soul. And and he's still dancing
and moving around and happy, joy and and and I
don't know where he is when this is out, but
I'm just blown away that you know, he hit a
hundred and and so you can measure it's not like, oh,
he had the perfect he never drank.
Speaker 1: Or you know, he had a rough, had rough today
it's vibrational. I really believe we were just talking about
there's two directors right now who are making two movies.
Clint Easwood's directing a movie right now and mel Brooks
is direct Space Balls too, like Mien to late nineties,
both the Thing ninety six.
Speaker 2: Both of them. Yeah, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is so bad. I can't sit through an
Eagles concert like forty eight.
Speaker 1: Sorry, So I wanted to I wanted to get your
take man on twenty twenty six, because we've been talking
a lot about energy and fibration and frequency and what
you know, holding onto the past and fear and all
this kind of stuff on a that and we've been
talking about on a micro level, on the personal level,
but on a macro level. Yeah, bird's eye view of humanity. Yeah,
everything we're talking about is it completely is related to
the contr the collective.
Speaker 2: So the way that I see it, I don't have
like the predictions like and then this country will take
over and war. I have it much more like I
really love to look at the individual and then what
the macro is as an individual level. So I believe
that in the past, almost everything that was going on
was based on false meaning, Like it's false that you
are what you achieve. It's false that the government has
pure intentions. It's false that, yeah, right, And so what
is happening is the lens of truth. Right, even certain
ways of spirituality that were helpful, could be extra nice,
but burying some truth, meaning like there's some negative energies
in there. But if you just think positive, we got yeah, yeah,
but there's truth. There's the negative energy stem from abuse
that's still being held in the body. So this needs
to come to light because it's not what you are.
So a lot of what you are was designed to
cover up your trauma. A lot of what you are
was I don't want to look at this. But the
lens of light is so profound right now that it is,
It is shining deep in your heart and your soul,
and it is saying I got to get everything out
of here. That's not true, that everything. So the idea
that I'm not enough has to go, The idea that
I am what I achieve has to go, The idea
that I should be even able to stare into the
future has to go. And the light is almost doubling
every day, not literally, but it's so exponential, yes, that
you cannot act from or be what is false. So
if you're in a relationship that doesn't align with your
soul and you keep doing it, it'll just be so
freaking heavy. If you're wanting to eat, if your soul
wants to eat healthy, you could eat one chip and
be like, why did I do that? Like going off
course at all is just going to be so loudly heavy. Yep.
The next thing you got to know is you have
to take in the idea of something really crazy. You're
just the now. You have to start getting I am
this field, not the one that's against the field. You'll
notice the number one thing your ego is scared of
is the truth. It's based on falseness. So when you
say to someone you're not the ten Porsches in your garage,
they're triggered, But that is still the truth. You're more
than that. You're an infinite, magical being and you're here
to explo that. So imagine that the lens right now
of God is so you can't help it. And you'll
notice that the more you listen to the now, like literally,
the more you just wake up and listen to silence
for a while, the more it will start bringing up
the falseness, not only the falseness in you, but the
falsest and that we'll get intuit of. Oh, I see
that politician is actually phony. I can feel like our
authenticity meters are so high. We spot phoniness everywhere, right, yes, yes,
And it's just like there's no ability for anything phony,
just one. You can see it in the eyes or
the way that someone talks. You can just feel it.
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Speaker 2: You can sense truth. You can sense when anyone's lying now, right, But.
Speaker 1: Twenty years ago you couldn't. Fifty years ago you couldn't.
Speaker 2: And you didn't even see through narcissism in the same
literally one hundred and fifty years ago, there was stake
oil salesmen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you would never be like, oh, yeah, that's
that's your right. Here's cancer right, Like it's like it's
just true, that's just true. He just said it, that
was it. Yeah. But our BS meter has has gotten
much more tuned.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, and so you'll notice that you have
to align with You'll notice that the truest thing is
this space. This now I find is just spending every
day now, deleting things that I truly thought I was
an hour before, and I am finding that the energy
field that is false is dying to the now. So
it sounds like vague nothing stuff to the ego, But
this is everything to the soul when you wake up.
What I would offer people is when you wake up,
really listen to silence before you grab the phone, even
before you check in with other people. Maybe give your
partner a kiss or something, and go sit and listen,
listen for like a while before you do something. Almost
all of your what do I do even comes from trauma.
In other words, almost what do I do so the
house doesn't fall apart so people don't not like me.
The more you listen to what is here, the more
it shows you those were patterns. You're about to run
your day from a pattern of what do I do?
That's fixing things that God would like to demolish anyway
to get you to the truth of what you are anyway,
So the more you listen to silence, the more it
will bring up and delete the false self. And then
you don't do what do I do?
Speaker 1: You do?
Speaker 2: What is being called for me to do? Or what's
God telling me? To do, and that will take you
to a much more ascended frequency that does things that
expand your soul versus that does things to stop things
from falling apart that are actually supposed to fall apart. Right,
And so the more you listen to silence, the more
some things that we're going to fall apart externally will
fall apart internally that will actually fix. There won't be
a trigger if it falls apart, but often it'll suddenly
come to you. If you're like your money story, right
the second you prayed and said please help me, you
let go of the pattern that was in control. You
ask God, and all of a sudden the money came.
So imagine that in the twenty twenty six you will
really be exhausted if you keep moving from the false
self who's here to become something in order to prove
your parents that you were something from a long time ago.
You're not even the family unit anymore, meaning like it's
you and God. And then you bring that to the
family because a lot of people think who I am
as my childhood, so they're just either being what their
parents told them to be or the rejection of their parents,
and by being the rejection of your parents, you're still
holding onto them. This is really interesting. If you live
your life trying to not be your parent, I've seen
it proved over and over and over, you will be
the exact same parent, but on the opposite way. Right,
Like I did an event on a product of mine
called Your Soul is Not for Sale. I worked with
this guy and I had said, you will become if
you want to not be your parent, you will become
just like them, but in an opposite way. And a
guy challenged me, and he goes, I got to say,
my dad never paid attention to me. He never said
I love you. You know. It just made me feel
so unseen. And he said, and I tell my kids,
I tell them I love that. I'll give them hugs
in front of their friends. I'll tell them they don't
know how good they have it. He literally said this,
And I said, so, let me get the straight.
Speaker 1: So it's reinforcing what you're saying.
Speaker 2: You literally are telling me when you tell your kids
you don't know how good you have it, your love
comes with guilt, right, you're telling you you're making your
love for them about you and not that you love them,
and you make them uncomfortable, and hug them in front
of their friends when they don't want it. You're exactly
your fun though it is fun. I mean it is
fun to torture your children, yes, But the more we
live a life of going don't be them, then you
have to hold what them is in your field and
you're and instead let go of what they are. Forgive
your parents, release them. They have nothing to do with
your journey. Now you're grown up and your God's kid.
You got to not just be the wound. You could
still go visit them on holidays, but your God's kid,
not your parents' egos kid. And so we're here to
listen to the now, and it will start to purge
the idea that you were the wounds of your parents
that you picked up or your solution to your parents,
you know, and you will become the now. And so
it is very important in twenty twenty six that people
move intentionally with source and don't just let it throw
their ego around until they're exhausted and fall apart and
sick or ill or whatever distracted sick or ill?
Speaker 1: Do you believe that because you were talking about ourbs
meters and authenticity is such a we're so heightened right now?
Is that why you think that religion is taking so
many hits lately? Oh, the last ten years, like organized
religions and all all versions of it, people are starting
to see the cracks.
Speaker 2: Well, it's so interesting. I noticed something really profound. I
noticed that there was an old style of religion that's
different than what is happening now. Let me explain. In
the fifties and sixties, a lot of times Christians were
I hate Elvis and that's the devil's.
Speaker 1: Music and the don't Yeah, they couldn't shoot his hips. Yeah,
they could have show his hips because they were gyrating, right, right,
But it actually made it worse when they didn't show it,
because then your imagination, right, they didn't and so it
was actually dirtier but they didn't show it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And in that time that it was all based
on shame. You're going to hell, your sexuality is evil
be Yeah. So my wife, her dad is a pastor,
and she grew up hearing shame about sexuality all this stuff.
How ironic is this? Like if you take the course
and miracles, you know you now she now almost opens
her heart to an expansive Jesus that helps her heal
the Jesus that shames her. Do you get what I'm saying,
Like in this time, she's opening her heart helping out Jesus,
and Jesus wipes away the one that makes her feel
like she's evil and bad and going to hell to do.
Speaker 1: But but the thing is, and this is such a
great quote, no one ever left Christianity because of Jesus's teachings.
Speaker 2: Right, they left for Paul. But that's another conversation. Well,
it's because at one point even that our consciousness is
so high that you're going that doesn't make logical sense.
Like you're telling me, like Luis Cike had a joke,
he goes, you're telling me this kid that like lied
about a cran goes in these roommates with Hitler. You
know what I'm saying, like right meat and stuff like that. Yeah,
And I feel very much like to in a scary
way warn a kid you're going to Hell is so abusive.
My daughter is My daughter is scared when a guy
opens his eyes big in Willy Wonka or you know,
she's got her elf on the shelf and we moved them.
She believes it. Like to tell her, Yeah, I want
you to go to bed and sleep and think you're
going to burn forever. If anything, that is just craziness.
And I have a video on YouTube it's just called
God and it says the most important conversation. It's me
having dialogue with a woman that has a God that's
so mad at her and scared and have her realized
like this now is actually what I see as God.
It would love to help you heal the one that
was made to control us and make us scared and
keep it Like, but isn't.
Speaker 1: It interesting you a raised Christian? No, okay, but you
know obviously a good amount about Christianity somewhat somewhat right.
But you know there's a Bible. Yeah, I've heard of it.
You've heard of it, right, Yeah, hotel exactly. And there's
an Old Testament in a New Testament.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Those are two very different gods. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One is terrifying, Yeah, he is. He's a he's egocentric,
he's abusive, he plays games. Ye, he's he's like insecure.
There's a bunch of that. And then in the new one,
it's like a lot NICER's a much well, it's a
much nicer God. And Jesus never ever talks about that God. Right,
he never praised to yahweh. It's a two different it's
just fast.
Speaker 2: And I always think this too, like if the idea
is the way into heaven is literally just say Jesus, then.
Speaker 1: What happens to everybody? The Buddhists.
Speaker 2: I wanted to imagine a speaker holding an event and saying,
you need to say the only way to something is me,
and if you don't, I burn you, and you better
love me because I burn you if you don't. You know,
Aaron Abke said on an interview I had with him,
He just said, is it free will? If you're threatened?
Speaker 1: Hell?
Speaker 2: Like, in other words, if you're if I go in
to your house with a gun and say give me
all your money and you give it to me, I
like it was this free will? They gave me this money.
It's like, No, that was fear right, and we're a
spiritual gun.
Speaker 1: You're holding a spiritual gun.
Speaker 2: To their head, right, You're you're not. My free will
isn't based on you've scared the crap out of me
to do it. It's based on a calling. And I
believe that that. You know, I was working with the guy.
Oh I told you this part. I've just realized we
did this. But like, the real connection to God feels
way better than what Earth is offering.
Speaker 1: What the stories that they've been told.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I mean, like when you're going inward and
you're healing, you realize your love no matter what, that's God.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: God says, God's God, Real God says, to give me
your shame, give me your regret. I will heal you.
I will undo you from that habit. I will release
your guilt. Just let me hear it, let me look
at it with you. That's a personal relationship with God,
and that, to me is where I get the truth right.
Speaker 1: Because this is the thing that fascinates me about this
conversation is that we're talking about a god now and
there's all these arguments over the last let's say, two
thousand years, twenty five hundred years, right, But prior to that,
there were gods prior in humanity and multiple gods.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lost the gods.
Speaker 1: Who are just around for I mean we're talking about
thousands and thousands of years. Well, what happened to them? Right?
What happened because there was just for that time, that's
my point. There was someone in Egypt talking about the
raw sun god Raw, and then Isis and all these
other different gods were there, and then there were people
in Greece talking about Zeus. And then before Zeus there
were the Titans, you know, and then you know Apollo
and all that. So there was arguments done with them. Yeah,
that's the thing. There was arguments constantly throughout human history.
Speaker 2: Pretty unpopular to be like I'm going to pray to
Zeus today, like Zeus is my there is I'm sure
somebody out there who does pray to Zeus right now,
you know, and there.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing that drives me insane about this
is that, like, well, no one like just right now
the current story that we're all watching and talking about
are the the let's say, all the religions that are
out there right now, all the gods that we've been
told about, you know, But there were gods before, and
there'll be gods later. Do you think in twenty thousand
years we're gonna be talking about Jesus or Mohammad or
or boot Up maybe and maybe if we if we
if we don't recycle ourselves if we don't go through
another kyloclysm like you know, uh Atlantis and we start again, right,
you know, and and then it's just another rehash of
the same story, just told differently. Because I don't know
if you know this or not. There's about I think
it was twelve. I'm gonna actually do some more research
on this. Twelve to fifteen other gods who have the
same origin story. Wow, as as Jesus. I'm not kidding,
that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's they born of a yeah, born of
a virgin. Later they did die. All that tuff. This
is this is fact. This has been out to do.
Speaker 2: A bit about. I read the Bible and it said
God said, let there be light, and I was thinking,
I'm sure he did, but who was he talking to.
Wasn't he by himself? Like I don't stand alone in
my kitchen, Let there be cheesy macaroni. And then I
make it and I tasted. I'm like, and it was good.
I approve of my macaroni.
Speaker 1: But it's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's but I think there's a lot of I mean,
I think we're here now to actually have a really adventurous,
true expansive through experience relationship with God that we can't
get too caught on which invisible man, and that was
told to us versus you can feel it and and
I just feel it through my expansion. I feel it
through the choices I make, because they're batting a thousand
at being right. I've had times where I ignored what
my soul said, where I kept someone in my life
that my soul was like, that's not a good person
for you, and I was just like, just shut up,
true voice. And then it's like, all right, I'll let them.
I'll let them get screwed over.
Speaker 1: Would you know?
Speaker 2: So that's that's God to me.
Speaker 1: Would you agree that most of us, I'm not gonna
say most of us. I think all of us are
confused as hell of why the hell we're down here.
We're trying to do the best job we can and
figure things out. And when someone comes to you with
a story that kind of makes sense that you can
grab on too and hold on. That gives you a
sense of security. But to be out there free. As
we're discussing which more people are becoming that awakened and thinking,
let's look inside, because when you're doing all of that,
there's nothing to hold on to you. Yeah, you're holding
on to you, Yes, and that's terrifying for most people.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's you know, you're you're gonna say, I
find that you start realizing this one hundred percent is
about my healing. Meaning like the ego goes. I got
to change them, and it's when they change. And I
think there's a type of Christian that says everyone that
doesn't say this thing is bad. You're bad. You're bad,
you're bad, because that's just well, they're in security and
they're not necessarily going. You know, I can think of
people that do that. That person's evil. That person's evil,
but they're living all seven sins all day, eating terribly.
You know whatever.
Speaker 1: If you watch if you watch an art ghosts and
you see and you see the assassin drug dealer going
to church going right, that drives me insane. The mafia
guys like yeah, you know, you can't like what it says.
Speaker 2: If you don't have to live a certain way, just
do that and you're going you go kill people and
you're in Like, I don't want to be in that heaven.
It's just it's just full of the people you here
with Gandhi not good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, meanwhile, Gandhi's in hell because he lived it. That's
true what I'm saying, Like, so Gandhi, m okay, they're
all in hell because they lived it versus said it.
You know what I'm saying, and then you just should
judge everybody, no, the ones that are really I'm gonna
find the love in me, even in the hardest people
to love. I'm going to go and heal. I'm gonna
have conversations with people about it. I'm gonna gonna listen
to I'm gonna also understand why other people are that way.
I'm gonna heal my trauma. I'm going to face stuff.
I'm gonna stop bringing all my addictions in and listen
to what hire has for me. I find that you
start to feel heaven on earth if you follow that,
and then I'm not too subscribed if needing to know
what happens when you die, because I'm curious about the
life I'm in. I'd rather look at the next forty
years versus what happens after it, you know, and really
go I'm here to live so that living in my
highest truth is my relationship with God, and it does
miracles like Course in Miracles is accurate, that interprets the
Bible correctly. To me, Course in Miracles is the most truth.
Love based makes sense logically. And you'll notice that the
people that follow that are very loving and happy, and
the ones that are so glued to the old way
are angry and stuck and mean and aging and addicted,
you know.
Speaker 1: And so isn't that interesting though, because yet that is
well obviously and I'm sure you've heard this before that
you know, the Bible was created by Rome and Rome,
you know, and the Constantine and all that stuff and all.
It's just stories, man, It's just stories thrown together. Other Yeah,
it didn't make any sense where there's a.
Speaker 2: Lot of details like like but yeah, but a lot
of but a lot of holes in the plot. Yeah,
a lot of hole. But if I I'm just saying,
if I spoke to you and was like, hey, Alex,
I'm Kyle, and this is Amber, and just so you know,
Amber Begat Stephanie, and she begat Ella and she Begat
and You're just like, nice to meet you Amber. And
she built a thing and it took nine cubits and
four cubits and six two by fours and there were
just what happened with the arc? Like like there's a
lot of detail, Like it's like we got the home
depot measurements of some of.
Speaker 1: This the arc.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I guess for anyone that goes,
how many cubits was the arc? Really?
Speaker 1: You know? And how did the lions stay next to
the lambs?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: In the same place? You know.
Speaker 2: You know it's weird because I I I'm sure we'll
go to hell for mocking. And I don't mean to be,
but like I do have serious questions, like so you're
telling me he got two wasps and knew what was
female like it was.
Speaker 1: In sex were never discussed. It was a mammal only scenario.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the oceans, that was fine. I don't burs sumber.
It's not all the birds, right, I just I'm just curious.
I just think the gathering process when you're at like, God,
we need two more okay, we had two regular mice.
We need snow mice.
Speaker 1: We have a leopard? Do we need a snow leopard?
Speaker 2: More cubits and you're all capable of bating? Right?
Speaker 1: And then and then and there was no hanky panky
in the arc.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the one's doing. Yeah, Like, there's no snow
leopard with a normal letter eating because he just ate.
There goes our sheep. Yeah, there goes our sheep. We
had we.
Speaker 1: Had two sheep, but we have some lamas, so we're good.
Like it's it's such an interesting idea, And then you
look at the whole concept of the Noah arc myth,
and every single culture in the world talks of a
great ful Yes, So all of a sudden, it's there's
so many holes in the plot of traditional religions in
so so many ways.
Speaker 2: I just feel like we're I just feel like we're
not here to control others and we're here to offer
a space of an experience and learn love. I believe
we're here to learn love. Yes, we're here to learn love.
And even though even though we're making these jokes, I
still am working on even feeling love for the people
we're talking about, right, Like of finding me, there's a
in every one of us, there's an injured child that
was a beautiful five year old that went through a
bunch of trauma, and we're here to find that. And
I believe we have learned love it one way, like
I got the thing I wanted. I've learned to learn
love for positive feelings. I've learned to learn love for
people I have things in common with the real powers.
Can I learn to love people that I would have
perceived of as enemies. Can I learn love for the
shame in my body? Because when I learn love for
the shame, it leaves. Can I learn love for guilt
in my body regret? Can I love my entire past,
even parts of it I hate? Can I love that
I hate it until it goes That's what love does,
because love dissolves it.
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Speaker 2: And the only factor of what keeps something dark in
your body is it's not seen. And to me, seeing
it is loving it. The greatest love there is is
understanding someone, understanding deeper what's in here, and understanding your partner,
your friends, right. And when people do a one on
one with me, I do a hot seat with them,
and all I do is just understand deeper. And the ego,
as I said, always has to make no sense. And
if I ask the ego direct questions, it's scared because
it's seen. It's the man behind the curtain, and its
whole thing was it stayed dark and hidden, and it
was kind of this kaiser SoSE that's going around. But
when I keep asking it, Okay, how happens if you
do do it wrong? You know it goes well, then
no one will love me? And okay, what happens if that?
And then I start making and go, okay, tell the pattern.
I love you even if no one loves me. They
start crying and you start to realize the love of
seeing deeper. That's all love is is seeing and hearing
and being interested in deeper. I want to know what's
in here, what drives you. That's love. And then someone
feels truly seen, they feel so loved. And so I'm
in the business of loving my shame, my guilt, being
a space for people that have a lot of shame,
that made mistakes, that hate themselves, and just letting them
know I don't care if they were in jail, Like
you know, we aren't going to heal this with you
shaming yourself, right, No one has ever shamed themselves into
a ton of change. In fact, if let's say someone
has a porn addiction, this is what they do a
lot of times they have the porn addiction and then
they go, Okay, I'm going to never do it, and
I'm not someone I'm so bad to do it, I
shame myself. Well, now you're saying the only way out
of this addiction. Now you're saying that you put yourself
into shame prison, and the only way out of it
is to go back to porn. Right, So you can't
use shame to do it. You use ascension, You use forgiveness,
You use that you're you're more than that. You use
that it was a pattern that you forgive, that needed
that that addiction. And so love transcends patterns. Love changes
the person, right, And so the more we learn to
love not just you know, my football team or the
people I have in common with or whatever, but all
that is, the more you alchemize all that is, and
the more you'll see the world change. And you'll see
even that horrible politician you hate, or that you know
mother in law that never understands. I watch as I
heal wounds with opposite people. The next thing I know,
they're calling me right like they'll they'll call and apologize,
or they'll call and forgive or whatever, and you start
to realize like, Okay, that person was in here. And
when I find enough love for the person that I
was hating, I was at war with me. Now all
of a sudden I heal it. I have it happen
all the time, that all of a sudden that issue
changes externally. So that's love, and that love is the
love of God. And that love of God to me
isn't about good versus evil.
Speaker 1: It goes.
Speaker 2: I love even evil so that it stops being evil
because what made it evil was no one saw it.
Speaker 1: But can you tell people if what you're doing where
they can find you in your amazing works.
Speaker 2: I have so much stuff coming out well. I've been
really enjoying making courses and making them unreal affordable. I
did a course recently on regret. It's called regret alchemy,
grieving the life you didn't get to live. I believe
very much that even if we love our life now,
we very often use it to interrupt regret, meaning like
regret wants to say, Man, I really miss the life
that I could have had. But I shouldn't feel that
way because I have a kid and I wouldn't have it,
and that shuts up the feeling and so the regret
stays there. So we made a beautiful course called Regret Alchemy,
Grieving the life you didn't get to live. That one
people can pay whatever they want other than a nine
dollars minimum, but it's a full course. They can pay
it of another course called boundaries, and the course I
was telling you about called Out with the Old, In
with the Now. That one is another insane course that
I could have made a thousand, but I made it
twenty dollars. And also I'm working with my guy to
your people. Can people watching this can go into go
to kylecas dot com slash courses and you'll see all
of my courses at one price. If you put Soul
from Next Level Soul in, the prices go down dramatically.
Speaker 1: So it's I.
Speaker 2: Don't know what the price will be. That's why I'm
not saying what it is, but they'll be almost nothing
to get courses that are like you know, like boundaries
was one ninety nine that one I know will make
it fifty nine. That's a two day course on boundaries
that mpaths need this course more than anything because mpaths
have a hard time boundary and because of that, they
disconnect themselves from their soul and they don't know how
much they're losing, how much money in everything. So go
to kylecas dot com courses and also just follow me
on Instagram. I'm on there the most. But yeah, I
am going to be feeling and going deep and on
fire in twenty twenty six. So I'm so excited to
work with your audience. I believe in being the real
thing the most that I can and helping people see
that they are too.
Speaker 1: And the courses that we're doing in Mastery are really
something very very special that we're going to be doing
for Next Level Soul and for people who have Next
Level SOULTV. And I'm so excited. And then, of course
if they haven't already, you were. You were one of
the very first people I reached out to when I
decided to launch Next Level Soul TV and said, hey, man,
do you got some cool stuff that we can put
on there? And you've been so beautiful and giving and
you gave us a Love Rising, which is love nine
hours something like that.
Speaker 2: That's me at the Dolby Theater. Yeah, thirty four hundred
people a nine hour event. It was a two day event.
Speaker 1: And we have it's luck as it was shot, so
Beautiful's like a Netflix special.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: And your lovely little girls in there too. She makes
a little cameo.
Speaker 2: Dude, you know what's so funny?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was there when it happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were there when this happened. There's two parts
of that Vivi thing. So this was shot when my
daughter was one year old and I had her on
my shoulders at one point.
Speaker 1: It's a thumbnail. It's one of the thumbails.
Speaker 2: And she comes out and I'm showing her the theater
and I said, I, I said to the audience. I said,
I just want to show her this one day, to
show her she was on stage at the Dolby Theater.
So you call me and we're talking about this course,
and then you said have you put Next Level Soul
TV on? And I was just like no, And I
put it up on my TV and I see the
chapters and my daughter, who's eight now, is sitting there
and one of the chapters is her as a baby,
and she goes, Dad, is that me? And I go yeah,
And so we click it and I say to her,
I'm going to show you you on the stage and
she's watching that moment with you on the It was
so amazing full circle and she was shocked. She's like
she couldn't believe she was in front of that many people.
And my team also was showing me a clip they
were considering using for Instagram. They made a short. There's
a moment where I say, I say, I'm talking about
we are triggered by things outside of us because it's
triggering things inside of us. And this was the time
where I don't remember why, I was twenty eighteen, but
there was a new story about people being being separated
from their parents. It might have been in Syria or
something like that, and I say, kids are very scared
to be separated from their parents, and that one moment,
Vivi from the side goes ah, like she literally only
yelled out when I said kids being separated from their parents.
It was so miraculous to just like turn over and
the camera turns over and she's there making noise, but
she didn't make noise that interrupted a point that didn't
have a point about kids in their parents. And I
just think that the higher you go up, the more
synchronistic things get. Yes, when you start seeing miracles everywhere
versus your agenda that it needs to be your weird way,
that is nothing compared to what God has for you.
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely absolutely. So we have Love Rising, we have
the Limitation Game, which is another event that you gave us.
We have a bunch of your meditations yes on there
as well. And we have your film The Illusion of Money, Yes,
which I love, love that pretty's. I love your opening
when it just feels yeah, you're just like, so yeah,
do we keep going?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very proud of that movie. We just made
it and then it was just in things and I'm like,
I kind of use twenty twenty and beyond to introvert
and heal myself, and so we never took the time
to shop around it. And I think it could have
been a huge hit on Netflix or something, but instead
it's on next level soul.
Speaker 1: It's it's nice. We're supposed to be saved for that,
and it has been. My friend has been. And we
also have your short film how was it? How evolved
people are?
Speaker 2: How enlightened peoplege genius? Yes, genius. Well I did a
sketch like that. I don't know if you ever saw it.
Maybe yeah, six years ago, is it things? Yeah? How
enlightened families argue yes, because it's really weird. The more
you go up in awareness, how funny an argument is
because you're just not owning the awareness. You know, like
if you've studied Byron Katie or you know, done inner work,
you get that your anger is your stuff. So it's
really funny to picture. So how would enlighten people? Road rage?
So that sketches on there, But like, yes, I go,
I go for a parking spot, JP takes it and
I go, this is so annoying because I'm under the
illusion that that parking spot was mine because I was
sitting there and I'm I go and yell at him,
and I'm like, I'm under the illusion I should be
somewhere other than now, but right now is the only
place there is. And people are joining and like, hey,
you know, I need significance, so I'm going to join this,
and I'm addicted to drama, so I'm going to stick
around and like it's so fun because and that got
three point five million views on my Instagram page.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. We had a meditation bundle there. We put
that in made the meditation Bundle twenty dollars and thousands went,
and so it's awesome. And yeah, so they get two
of us. We're like both. There's two places you can go, yes, right,
Kyle cs dot com slash Courses and Next Level Soul
Seed TV. Yeah, and I'm honored to just be in.
I'm only about collaboration and not competition, manute. We give
to each other absolutely, overflow.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, my friend, Kyle, It's always a pleasure. Yeah,
having you here, and now that you're in Austin's, I
feel that there's going to be more and more of
us doing stuff together.
Speaker 2: I love it here so much, man, I love the community.
I love being here. There's just it's so freeing to
be here. And I love that I'm just down the
street from you now. It's great to see you, brothers. Man,
you're a good guy.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, brother. I appreciate you for being here and
for everything you're doing to awake in this planet. Man.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you you too, brother.
Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.
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