WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:06.919 Big Food and on with. 2 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:08.279 Cliff and Bulbo. 3 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:13.039 These guys are your favorites, so like say subscribe and raid. 4 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:16.120 It five stock and me. 5 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:24.079 Rights on yesterday and listening watching Limb always. 6 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:24.879 Keep its watching. 7 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.399 And now you're hosts Cliff Barrickman and James Bubo Fay. 8 00:00:31.280 --> 00:00:34.560 So all right, roll it. 9 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:35.719 How are you doing? Bobs? 10 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:39.079 Okay, that's go on, Cliff, It's all right, It's all right, 11 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:42.439 So far, so good. Been a busy day already. Not 12 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:46.159 much Bigfoot stuff happening today necessarily, although the shop isn't 13 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:49.159 very busy lately. Been just got a new display up, 14 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.320 kind of a smaller one. Remember back in the day, 15 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:55.399 this is early two thousands. I know you'll remember this, Bobo, 16 00:00:55.439 --> 00:01:00.719 but John Green was offering one hundred thousand dollars on 17 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:04.000 anybody who could replicate the footprints that he personally observed 18 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:08.480 back in the late fifties early sixties. Yeah, yeah, so 19 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:13.439 that to particular his challenge, his written challenge. It was 20 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:16.640 donated to the museum by the Willow Creek Museum. So 21 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:19.079 I got a scan of it and we printed that 22 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:22.319 out and put it up in our entry way in 23 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:25.200 the museum so people can come read about the stuff 24 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:27.799 that John Green personally saw and was willing to give 25 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:32.920 one hundred thousand dollars away if somebody could replicate footprints 26 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:37.599 under the same conditions showing the same features. A hat written, No, 27 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:39.680 this one is typed. This was typed. It was official. 28 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:42.920 It was definitely official. So then, of course, needless to say, 29 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:46.079 nobody ever collected it. That's not to say hoaxes don't happen, 30 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:48.439 of course, but nobody ever collected it. 31 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:51.319 Okay, hold, I like, what are we doing right now? 32 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:53.719 Is this members or is this the main episode? 33 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:53.879 Now? 34 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:55.760 This is the intro for the main episode. 35 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:58.239 Okay. At first of all, I was doing hymns out. 36 00:01:58.280 --> 00:01:59.159 I'm like, wait, what. 37 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:01.280 Was it night yet? 38 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:01.560 No? 39 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:04.719 No, no, so both We're coming up on the end 40 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.359 of the month here that if I remember correctly, don't 41 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:09.159 you have to be in out of your place and 42 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:10.919 in a new place by August first? 43 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:14.000 Yeah? Yeah, we uh, we were out of here. Well, 44 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.199 actually they gave me till the fourth. My walkthrough is 45 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:20.639 on the fourth because it's the weekend. The first is Friday. 46 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:23.800 We can't move in the new place until then, so 47 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:26.319 like they're just going to refurbish it, you know, they're 48 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:28.240 going to strip this place and read you the whole 49 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:30.280 things like it's not it doesn't matter. Then if I'm 50 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:31.360 not here over the weekend, they're not going to do 51 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:33.080 anything with it anyway, So that takes some of the 52 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:37.680 pressure off. Then we did a pre moved plan party Saturday. 53 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:40.560 Crew Tou was out of town, so I had some 54 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:42.080 of the boys come or they were going to help 55 00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:47.439 help move. So we uh watched UFC and kicked out 56 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:50.840 some steaks and had a good time. 57 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:54.639 Have you been nesting in your man cave? Dude? 58 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:57.599 The man cave? I think it's getting freaking ruined. The 59 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:01.639 new place. It's a one her garage and crew just 60 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:04.639 bought that electric car and now she wants to park 61 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:06.759 it in the garage to charge at which I get. 62 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:11.120 Then she's got this big jogging machine whatever treadmill, and 63 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:14.599 then an elliptical machine, and like, dude, it's like going 64 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:17.520 to fill the whole thing like full. So that was 65 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:18.599 gonna be my man cave. 66 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:20.520 This cannot stand. 67 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:22.520 Well, it sounds like you wouldn't stand. You'd be on 68 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:23.599 the elliptical machine. 69 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:26.159 Yeah, maybe not the worst thing. 70 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:29.840 Yeah, the picture, all the imagine, all the exercise will 71 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:31.520 be getting by hanging out in your own man cave. 72 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:34.680 So you're probably in the midst of packing everything up 73 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:35.240 at this moment. 74 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:35.520 Right. 75 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:38.319 Oh, well, crew is donepack and I still got to pack. 76 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:39.599 I'm shocked. 77 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:42.120 Okay, So her stuff is all in boxes and taking 78 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:45.000 her stuff's taken care of, and yours is waiting to 79 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:45.680 be taken care of. 80 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:48.680 I got some trash bags and then just throw stuff 81 00:03:48.680 --> 00:03:49.719 in there in a good role. 82 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:51.319 There you go. 83 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:53.840 All right, Well, then I boxed. I boxed all my 84 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:56.439 books up and got those into the storage unit cause 85 00:03:56.479 --> 00:04:00.319 we got a climate controls storage unit. I keep most 86 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:01.680 of my books and stuff, and they are a lot 87 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:07.360 of camping gear and chainsaws and malls and gas jugs 88 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:08.439 and all that kind of stuff. 89 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:12.400 Gas jugs in a storage unit, Yep. 90 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:13.639 They like them in there. 91 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:18.360 Yeah, you like them in there in case it does 92 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:19.720 go up there's no evidence left. 93 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:22.959 Yeah, no, I keep the empty ones in there. 94 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:25.519 Maybe by the end of August, you'll be all situated 95 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:27.920 in a new house, have a new office area, scanner, 96 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:32.680 all going, podcast station, new life, new bobs. That's the 97 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:36.480 hoe nice, that's cool. Are you going to be working 98 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:38.040 back at the school that's coming year? Do you think 99 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:40.319 or no, yep, I'm going back. 100 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:41.240 Yeah. 101 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:43.079 Once they get you, it's hard to let go. 102 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:45.639 It wouldn't be that hard to let go. 103 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:50.600 Okay, before we hop into our guest today, I want 104 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:52.240 everybody to know that I'm going to be out in Ohio. 105 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:56.759 This coming weekend, August seventh through tenth is the Hawking 106 00:04:56.839 --> 00:05:00.839 Hills Bigfoot Festival. It's going to be at the Vinton 107 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:04.519 County Fairgrounds in MacArthur, Ohio. I think most of the 108 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:06.959 events actually free, which is kind of cool. I think 109 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:08.759 you had to pay maybe see the speakers or something. 110 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:11.439 But there's tons of vendors. There's gonna be like a 111 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:14.600 night hike. Apparently Tom Powell's going to be out there, 112 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:18.240 a lot of other bigfoot folks, Charlie I know, Charlie 113 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:20.000 Raymond and Steve Coles are going to be out there, 114 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:23.879 some various podcasters. It should be a really, really good time. 115 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:25.839 And of course this is the third or fourth year 116 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:28.480 of the event, and it's ridiculous. Every year it keeps 117 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:31.240 growing and growing and growing. It's grown so much actually, 118 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:34.240 they've had to move it to a new location, which 119 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:35.839 is why it's gonna be at the Fairgrounds of Vinton 120 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:41.160 County Fairgrounds in MacArthur, Ohio this coming weekend. Come on 121 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:45.240 out and say hi, Come on out and say whatever 122 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:46.519 you want to me. If you're a pigeon, you can 123 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:48.519 go at me and I'll do it right back at you. 124 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:50.360 It's going to be a good time. Hopefully I'll see 125 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:54.639 you out there. But speaking of Ohio, let's go ahead 126 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:57.360 and talk to our guests today. Of course, we have 127 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:00.399 a return visitor today. Are at the Lovely Intellent, Mark 128 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:03.600 Dwerth from out in Ohio. He's the organizer of the 129 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:06.079 Ohio Bigfoot Conference and a bunch of other stuff. He's 130 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:09.519 a regular speaker at local events and libraries near him. 131 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:11.839 He's out in the woods all the time because of 132 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.480 his living, of course, and what let's just jump right 133 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:15.759 into it. Mark, how are you doing today? 134 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:16.000 Sir? 135 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:16.639 Hello? 136 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:17.079 Mark? 137 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:18.439 What's going on? Bobs? 138 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:19.720 How are you good? 139 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:19.959 Man? 140 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:20.279 Good? 141 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:21.160 Thanks? 142 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:21.959 Great? 143 00:06:22.600 --> 00:06:24.360 Thanks for coming on the show again. Mark. Has been 144 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:26.439 a couple of years now, I think since we've had 145 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:28.720 you on. I think what's new out in Ohio? 146 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:33.439 Oh? Just the weather? I mean, it's been an amazing 147 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:37.439 year here in Ohio. We had a very average normal 148 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:41.759 winter which led into a very very kind of a 149 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:45.519 traditional old time spring where we had lots and lots 150 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:48.639 of rain going out throughout all of spring, and a 151 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:53.759 very few of those really warm weekends or weekdays during 152 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:56.639 spring that we've been having over the last five six years. 153 00:06:56.680 --> 00:07:00.040 And so a lot of people were quite unhappy that 154 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:03.399 there wasn't super warm weather in the spring. But then 155 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:06.680 as summer rolled around in mid July, we started hitting 156 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:09.959 in the nineties again, and you know, then not getting rain. 157 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:12.519 And now we're like in what I would say the 158 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:15.920 dog days this summer, where it seems like every evening 159 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:18.920 there's a chance of a thunderstorm somewhere around and it 160 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:21.959 might rain here, might rain there, And so of course 161 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:24.319 it spikes the humidities and then you have a lot 162 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:27.480 of humidity in the air. No, everything's doing good. I mean, 163 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:30.160 I can't be happier on this year. 164 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.160 Well, you pretty much have your thumb on the pulse 165 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:35.879 of the Bigfoot thing out in Ohio in general. Do 166 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:38.800 you notice any correlation between any of these weather patterns 167 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:42.079 that you're talking about and sasquatch reports. And I only 168 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:44.560 bring that up because Moneymaker, when he lived out in Ohio, 169 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:47.199 he would comment about these real, real hot days and 170 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:49.839 how he thought that that changed the behaviors of the 171 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:53.079 sasquatches and where they chose to hang out. 172 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:57.720 Well, I would most definitely agree. What we find in 173 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:00.560 Ohio is that if you get these real long, hot 174 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:05.000 stretches of summer that depletes the water sources in the 175 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:08.160 small creeks and any little feeders to any of the rivers, 176 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:11.560 it forces all the larger mammals and everything to get 177 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:14.439 closer to the rivers and lakes, which of course, in 178 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:16.560 turn is going to force the bigfoots to do the 179 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:20.519 same thing, especially if they're hunting deer and turkeys in 180 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:25.079 different other wildlife that the state has to offer. So yeah, 181 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:28.639 most definitely the heat the summer can play a big 182 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:31.319 role in determining where they're going to be located at. 183 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:33.840 And like last year when we had that big drought 184 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.200 for about three weeks, I mean, if we did get 185 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:39.879 any sighting reports, there were always by a big body 186 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:40.320 of water. 187 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:42.840 That's hilarious. You guys had a three week drought. 188 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:44.600 I'm just not here. 189 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:46.639 We'll be talking to years out here. It's just funny 190 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:47.919 hearing from Ohio. 191 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:51.039 Yeah, and the funny thing is is that we did 192 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:53.360 have a three week drought, but I mean the whole 193 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:57.039 rest of the of the year, especially previously to that drought, 194 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:59.840 we had tons of water. So where we truly in 195 00:08:59.879 --> 00:09:03.240 a drought, No, we just had a three week period 196 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:05.360 where we weren't getting any rain. 197 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:08.159 So a lot of these dammed up rivers. Something I've 198 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:09.879 noticed out here for a number of years, and I 199 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:12.039 don't know why, if there's a correlation, or if there's 200 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:14.159 even a real strong correlation, but it's just something I've 201 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:16.240 kind of picked up, I guess over the years, is 202 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:19.519 that a lot of siding reports come from right underneath 203 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:22.960 reservoirs that are dammed up for whatever reason. I don't 204 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.879 know if if it's because those river valleys underneath the 205 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:28.480 reservoirs are pretty deep and you know, not a lot 206 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:30.399 of people go into them because they're focused on the 207 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:32.480 lake themselves, or what. Do you see that same sort 208 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:33.360 of thing out in Ohio? 209 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.320 Oh yeah, yeah, most definitely, because when the reservoirs were created, 210 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:40.559 they were created to make a deep fishing or boating 211 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:44.159 or recreation type lake. And yes, all those little feeders 212 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:47.000 that are feeding in on all the different sides, they 213 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:50.000 become kind of just left, you know, left to left 214 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:52.360 a pasture, and no one goes around there anymore because 215 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:54.600 they're too busy up on the main body of waters. 216 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:57.200 So yeah, most definitely. And plus I mean, and I 217 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:59.440 don't know how it is up by by you guys, 218 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:03.200 but I truly feel that the bigfoots in Ohio, they 219 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:06.279 definitely follow those dry creek beds are the semi wet 220 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:08.440 creek beds to and from food source. 221 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.440 So when you talk about the food sources, have you 222 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:16.360 personally observed with your own eyes signs of sasquatch foraging 223 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:17.679 and can you describe them if you have? 224 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:20.519 You know? And when I say foraging, I had a 225 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:24.879 report back in nineteen ninety six. It was it was 226 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:28.600 the winner of ninety six. It was over in Columbiana County, 227 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:32.120 which is east central Ohio, and it was pretty close 228 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:34.440 to an air area where there were a bunch of 229 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:38.080 sighting reports. There was a bunch of vocalizations recorded and 230 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:43.879 things like that. And I happened to decide to go 231 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:47.879 down below this property why some other investigators were still 232 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:50.200 talking with the witnesses, because I noticed there was a 233 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:54.399 small trailer on the property below this property that set 234 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.639 up on this big knoll. And when I went and 235 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:59.720 talked to the lady of the property and I just simply, 236 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.720 you know, if she had seen any prowlers around in 237 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:05.559 the summer. And of course she said, oh, yeah, I 238 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:08.320 saw that, sob and I told him to get off 239 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:10.039 my property and I was going to shoot him with 240 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:12.799 my gun. And I go, really, I go, what did 241 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:15.159 he say? She goes, he just growled and walked away. 242 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:18.159 And I said, well, what do you mean growl? She goes, yeah, 243 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:19.840 he kind of just made like a growl sound, and 244 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:22.120 he turned in when he left. He didn't leave my 245 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:25.600 property toward the road. He went back into the woods. 246 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:28.879 But she had no clue. But anyways, I got permission 247 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:31.720 to take a look around on her property, and lo 248 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:34.399 and behold, we were back on this one section and 249 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:36.879 there was snow on the ground because this was February, 250 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:42.600 and there was an area maybe about twelve foot diameter 251 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:47.399 of an area where there was deer here, hair spread everywhere, 252 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:51.879 like in this strange circular pattern. And as we were 253 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:54.159 looking around, it's like, well, where are the bones, where's 254 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:57.799 the body? We couldn't find anything. And then lo and behold, 255 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:00.840 I see like a hoof sticking out under a like 256 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:03.679 some briar bushes, and when I went to put my 257 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:05.799 hand on the hoof to thinking I was just going 258 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:08.399 to pull the hoof itself out, it was the whole deer. 259 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:11.840 And I ended up pulling three deer from out underneath 260 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:16.159 this brier patch. They were all frozen solid. The only 261 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:19.320 thing wrong with them where their backs were snapped, and 262 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:22.159 it was almost like these things were they were being 263 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:27.679 stored underneath these briers in the snow, and that whatever 264 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:30.360 had eaten whatever I mean, I'm going to say this 265 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:32.159 was a deer that was eating because it was it 266 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:36.600 was obviously deer hair that they were obviously having a 267 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:39.799 feeding at this location, and it was just right below 268 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:42.399 the property that was having all these sightings in all 269 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:46.840 these vocalizations, so I assumed that that was a bigfoot 270 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:47.279 doing that. 271 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.279 As far as feeding on the deer, kind of what 272 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:52.879 parts of the deer seemed fed. 273 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:58.200 Upon, well, the three frozen deers, the only thing noticeable 274 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:01.759 on there were their backs. Spines were like literally snapped 275 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:04.960 tongues hanging out, but they had they did not touch 276 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:09.279 anything on these three deer. The deer that had been consumed, 277 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:11.879 judging by all the hair that was there, we could 278 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.799 not find anything like. There were no bones scattered, nothing. 279 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:19.799 It was just a totally circular, twelve foot diameter, circular 280 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:22.799 pattern of deer hair spread all over the place like 281 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:26.279 something had been eating. And so we presumed there was 282 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:28.879 another deer that was taken and that they had eaten 283 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:31.279 this one, and that maybe the critters came along and 284 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:33.039 cleaned up the mess. 285 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:35.720 So that this might be. Maybe you didn't notice at 286 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:38.320 the time, maybe it did. When you say the back 287 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:41.879 was broken on these three deer, were they broken in 288 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:45.039 about the same spot or could he describe how the 289 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:45.840 back was broken? 290 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:48.200 I would say from the base of the neck to 291 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:51.159 the to the backbone itself. It was roughly about six 292 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:53.799 inches back and it was very consistent on all three 293 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:56.120 of them. It looked like something got their hands on 294 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:57.919 it and literally just snapped the spine. 295 00:13:58.639 --> 00:13:59.279 Very interesting. 296 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:04.720 Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo. 297 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:12.960 We'll be right back after these messages. 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The reports 335 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:11.279 were a couple of them were of bigfoots crossing the 336 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:14.360 road in front of cars at dusk. Another one was 337 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:17.080 along the Buckeye Trail, which is a trail system that 338 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:21.039 goes all throughout the greater state of Ohio. It goes 339 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:24.360 around like a big circle around the state. And it 340 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:27.399 was hikers on the Buckeye Trail had what they saw 341 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:31.559 in a rainstorm, they heard some movement in front of them. 342 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:34.120 They spooked out what they said was a large hair 343 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:38.480 cover creature. Obviously it was raining quite hard with lightning 344 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:42.799 and thunder and they obviously they kind of walked up 345 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:45.000 pretty close to it. It must have not heard them 346 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:49.120 coming because of all the storming, and it spooked the thing. 347 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:51.919 The thing crossed the trail and quickly went up a 348 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:54.879 hill side up an embankment, out of site, very quickly. 349 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:58.480 But it scared them to the point where instead of 350 00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:01.440 continuing going straight, they went the mile back to where 351 00:17:01.480 --> 00:17:03.840 their car was parked because they didn't want to continue. 352 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:06.920 And that happened. Oh, that was just about a month ago. 353 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:08.440 And how did you hear about that? 354 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:12.759 I heard about it because I was doing some work 355 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:17.319 with someone that maintains the Buckeye Trail in the state, 356 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:21.440 and he happened to see I had a bigfoot shirt 357 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:25.640 on and he's like, oh, wow, cool, he said he 358 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:28.359 was bigfoot. I said, yeah, I said, there's been settings 359 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:30.400 around the Buckeye trade. He goes, oh, you heard about 360 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:32.240 that one. I go, what are you talking about? There's 361 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:34.640 the one that happened a few weeks ago over near 362 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:37.480 in Harrison County. I don't want to say the name 363 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:41.079 of the name of the lake. And I said, oh, really, 364 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:43.160 tell me more. And you know, he sat down and 365 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:45.599 we talked in he got me in contact with the 366 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:49.000 people that actually had the sighting, and and yeah, because 367 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:51.119 it's kind of funny because people do talk about it 368 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:53.640 along that trail, but most people talk about it in 369 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:56.920 a very jokingly fashion. I it's just you know, bs, 370 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:59.680 there's nothing true about it. There were three witnesses on 371 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:02.279 this that saw this thing, and you know, obviously it 372 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:05.559 was quite large in sizing. It had scared them out 373 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:07.720 of there. And you know, people that hiked the Buckeye Trail, 374 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:10.240 especially that section of the state, they're not I wouldn't 375 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:13.079 call them wimpy hikers because it's pretty rugged out there. 376 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:15.640 Now, you have a you have a job of course 377 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:17.200 that kind of puts you out in the woods all 378 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:19.559 the time. You're interested in large trees in the area, 379 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:22.799 and you're doing some surveys from an understand that that 380 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:27.119 sort of thing. When you're out in the woods surveying 381 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:30.480 these trees and recording them and what and whatnot. How 382 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:35.319 often do you either encounter sign of sasquatches or stories 383 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:37.759 of sasquatch from save property owners? And how do you 384 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:40.599 get that how do you get that information without you know, 385 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:42.319 like scaring the witnesses off. 386 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:45.240 You know, and typically what it is is that you 387 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:47.839 know me, I'm so excited about the tree for our 388 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:51.880 trees for example, that I just literally go, you know, 389 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:55.400 hog wild on these properties, you know, evaluating their trees 390 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:58.240 and everything like that. But I typically I like to 391 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:00.799 wear bigfoot shirts when I'm out in the woods. So 392 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:03.200 I might have an NABC shirt, I might have an 393 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:05.640 Ohio Bigfoot conference. I might have a you know, a 394 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:08.480 Bigfoot and Beyond pick. And of course then I get 395 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:11.440 these property owners. They'll say, hey, I noticed your your 396 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:14.319 shirt and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's cool. And 397 00:19:14.359 --> 00:19:16.400 he goes, oh they have museums like that. I'm like, 398 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:18.200 oh yeah yeah. And I tell him about it and 399 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:20.559 everything like that. And then then of course they get 400 00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:22.640 around to saying, hey do you do you really think 401 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:27.039