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<v Speaker 1>No bread of that areland.

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<v Speaker 2>Sons, no bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Of that are ho bred of that areland.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult

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<v Speaker 3>of Conspiracy and I am the Cajun night Ay Raven Lee,

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<v Speaker 3>and we are continuing on our holiday week pile on

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<v Speaker 3>of all the crazy things and stuff, and believe it

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<v Speaker 3>or not, this episode accidentally will get conspiratorial. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even intend for this to go this way. But today

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<v Speaker 3>we are going to be talking about Kwanza, which is

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<v Speaker 3>an inherently American, specifically African American, but it's inherently an

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<v Speaker 3>American celebration. And then as we are sticking to the

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<v Speaker 3>more you know, American traditions that a lot of Americans

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<v Speaker 3>may not be aware of, we are then gonna go

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<v Speaker 3>to some Native American tribes.

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<v Speaker 4>M h.

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<v Speaker 5>So we're gonna we're gonna touch at least on the

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<v Speaker 5>history of kind of just what some Native American tribes do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm excited to learn about these things. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I I as a side tangent, I started doing some

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<v Speaker 3>more research into some obscure things I never knew about.

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<v Speaker 3>The Iroquois society of the no Face, which is a

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<v Speaker 3>winter solstice celebration thing, and I didn't do too much

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<v Speaker 3>digging into it. We're gonna talk about that one probably

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<v Speaker 3>on the Obscure episode We're gonna do in a minute

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<v Speaker 3>or tomorrow, I should say, But yeah, for today, we

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<v Speaker 3>are going to go to Kwansa and we are going

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<v Speaker 3>to go to a couple of different Native American tribes.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do need to apologize. I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>be wearing a daishiki for this, and I had a source.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a buddy of mine who I told him

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<v Speaker 3>when I was doing He was super about that life.

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<v Speaker 3>I know there's gonna be people that are saying I'm

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<v Speaker 3>appropriating culture. No, I'm an American and there's a specifically

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<v Speaker 3>American holiday, and he was super, super helpful. Actually, he

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<v Speaker 3>was like about that life. But I should admit my

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<v Speaker 3>buddy is a few sizes smaller than me, and this

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<v Speaker 3>would have looked like I was trying to make a

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<v Speaker 3>joke out of the culture, and that's not what my

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<v Speaker 3>intention was. So the flannel is still rocking.

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<v Speaker 5>It happens. Hey, I'm wearing a Crumpuss shirt and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>wearing these awesome earrings that were made for me. But today,

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<v Speaker 5>so there are trees, Christmas trees with skulls on them.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm super happy. So hell, I'm still rocking the theme

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<v Speaker 5>over here. At least of Christmas things. I could throw

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<v Speaker 5>on a Christmas hat.

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<v Speaker 3>I could throw on the Christmas hat. But this episode

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<v Speaker 3>is not going to be about Christmas yet, not like

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<v Speaker 3>this kind of Christmas. So at that point it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of this thing's lost in translation, you know. So it

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<v Speaker 3>is what it is, but we are gonna to get

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<v Speaker 3>into it here, good cult members, and we might as

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<v Speaker 3>well give the shameless plug now for anybody that is

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<v Speaker 3>listening to the show that would like to see the articles,

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<v Speaker 3>the videos and the things and the stuff, and Ravenlee

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<v Speaker 3>and I are gorgeous faces talking about these topics. Then

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<v Speaker 3>the only place you can go to see all this

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<v Speaker 3>would be to go to patreon dot com slash Cult

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<v Speaker 3>Conspiracy Podcast. Over there, there are a few tiers for entry.

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<v Speaker 3>We got that five dollars a month tier where you

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<v Speaker 3>get all these episodes. You get them a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>days in advance, sometimes even a week in advance. You

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<v Speaker 3>get all the video content, you get some of the

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<v Speaker 3>behind the scenes things. We are doing a lot more

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<v Speaker 3>on the Patreon. We are trying to revitalize and retool

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<v Speaker 3>the Patreon. We just did a live Q and A.

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<v Speaker 3>We're showing more behind the scenes things. We may even

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<v Speaker 3>be dropping some exclusive content for certain tiers within the Patreon.

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<v Speaker 3>We we're gonna start sending out some ourach, yeah merch, not.

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<v Speaker 5>Merch, We're gonna so we have a couple things that

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<v Speaker 5>we've decided to do. So we're revitalizing Patreon completely and

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<v Speaker 5>hopefully by the beginning of the year we'll have all

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<v Speaker 5>the tiers set up exactly what we want to do.

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<v Speaker 5>But we're going to have promo boxes for the third

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<v Speaker 5>Eye Open tier and for the Mannic tier, and we're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna have a cool sticker a month, so every month

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<v Speaker 5>will be a different kind of sticker and it will

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<v Speaker 5>be it will be like kind of coo little ones

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<v Speaker 5>that will change every single month. And then we're also

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<v Speaker 5>going to do hopefully potentially merch exclusive merch for certain tiers,

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<v Speaker 5>also have a merch store, and it's gonna be pretty awesome,

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<v Speaker 5>Like we're gonna we're gonna set it all up and

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<v Speaker 5>have a really cool time.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm excited. I am we got you know, Braven

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<v Speaker 3>Lee and I have a different type of let's call

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<v Speaker 3>it esthetic, you know, a different type of artistic flair.

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<v Speaker 3>And I am excited to see what kind of stickers

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna just come up with month to month. That

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<v Speaker 3>should be fun, just saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think between the two of us, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>have some really cool ones. Definitely, probably some skulls for mine,

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<v Speaker 5>Oh for sure, everyone, I'll have a lot of skols

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<v Speaker 5>for mine. But I'm interested to see what you come

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<v Speaker 5>up with, the ones that you like.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a few ideas. Some will be rather lighthearted,

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<v Speaker 3>some will be rather obscene. I don't know. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>we'll figure it out together, you know. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>we're also coming out with more merch as well. We

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<v Speaker 3>are currently looking for a merch store type of situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Some coffee mugs, some hoodies, some T shirts. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>start making this happen in real time. We have had

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<v Speaker 3>with No Ego, hundreds of people ask us where can

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<v Speaker 3>they buy our merch? And we have been slacking for years.

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<v Speaker 5>On this, but well, I mean we did. We did

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<v Speaker 5>go and have some conversations with some people to do merch.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just very expensive up front, and trying to figure

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<v Speaker 5>out how to do a merch store and then actually

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<v Speaker 5>have good quality and where to actually house it, or

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<v Speaker 5>if we're gonna do one of those where you click

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<v Speaker 5>and then it does the automatic thing. It's it's a

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<v Speaker 5>process to learn how to do all that. So we

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<v Speaker 5>are hoping though, by at least the beginning of the year,

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<v Speaker 5>we'll have our tiers set up for Patreon, and we'll

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<v Speaker 5>have a lot more exclusive content and behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 5>Q and as contests run different kind of things to

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<v Speaker 5>where you know it's gonna be a lot more fun

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<v Speaker 5>building a real community within the Patreon So I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if we're gonna throw the discord, because both of us,

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<v Speaker 5>to be honest, are kind of dumb when it comes

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<v Speaker 5>to Discord.

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<v Speaker 3>But I can tease this, at least there will possibly

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<v Speaker 3>be a link to a secret merch store only available

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<v Speaker 3>to Patreon subscribers, the secret store which will have the

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<v Speaker 3>secret star Bey app Uh. Let's say this like there's

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<v Speaker 3>been some quotes, there's been some sayings that have come

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<v Speaker 3>off of this show over the years. We're like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, that's a T shirt. That's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 3>spot where those T shirts are made. And it's not

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<v Speaker 3>something that you would put out on the interwebs for

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<v Speaker 3>the world to see, but for the people that get

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<v Speaker 3>the joke, you know. Yeah, Anyway, like I was saying,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna have these things available on the Patreon here

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<v Speaker 3>very soon, so.

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<v Speaker 5>Like Beetlejuice right then, I'm sorry, Yeah, that sound like

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<v Speaker 5>you did when you were like.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take that as a compliment. I think he's phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 5>Saying it in a bad way. I'm just saying, that's

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<v Speaker 5>what you sound like.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think he did okay at Batman.

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<v Speaker 5>He did. I mean, I didn't think he was terrible

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<v Speaker 5>at Batman. I'll say that better.

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<v Speaker 3>Than Jack Frost. That was just me.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that's a sad movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that. That movie is the reason why I

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<v Speaker 3>still can't listen to Landslide by by Fleetwood Mac without

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<v Speaker 3>getting a little.

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<v Speaker 5>It's pretty emotional movie. I'll say that. To go back

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<v Speaker 5>to your point about Patreon, we are going to be

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<v Speaker 5>doing a lot of things coming up and really trying

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<v Speaker 5>to i don't know, build expand grow our community, grow

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<v Speaker 5>the cult and see how it all plays out.

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<v Speaker 3>What absolutely So with that being said, there are a

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<v Speaker 3>few other tears that you can go to on the page.

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<v Speaker 3>We got that cult member tier right there, like we were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about, then if you want to go to that

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<v Speaker 3>third eye all the way open tier, you will be

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<v Speaker 3>able to join us every Tuesday night for the Cult

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<v Speaker 3>Member lives and you you know you hear the episodes drop.

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<v Speaker 3>Come meet the Spirit Animal himself, Come meet Dougie Blumkin.

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<v Speaker 3>Come meet our resident Jewish correspondent, and our resident trans correspondent,

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<v Speaker 3>our resident furry correspond all these people, all these people.

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<v Speaker 3>As much as people want to say that we are

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<v Speaker 3>a Maga echo chamber, we have a very diverse group

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<v Speaker 3>that would say otherwise, because I throw that out. But

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<v Speaker 3>probably the main reason why people go to patreon dot

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<v Speaker 3>com slash Cult Conspiracy Podcast is because it is the

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<v Speaker 3>only place not only to see the video of all

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<v Speaker 3>these episodes, but it's the only place to hear us.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely yes, that's right. Kick the ads, we know they suck.

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<v Speaker 3>We hate commercials too. We offer exclusively on Patreon commercial

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<v Speaker 3>free listening. That's the best place to go. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>only place to go. So I'm gonna go ahead and

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<v Speaker 3>share the screen at this time. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just off of the Ravenle, do you know anything about

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<v Speaker 3>Kwanza I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually don't know anything about Kwansa. I know you

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<v Speaker 5>said it's an American holiday. I don't know when it

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<v Speaker 5>was started, what it's really about. I'm gonna be honest

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<v Speaker 5>with you. I'm pretty nineive when it comes to this topic.

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<v Speaker 3>So I feel like a lot of Americans, specifically white Americans,

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<v Speaker 3>don't know much about Kwanza. And that's understandable because it

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<v Speaker 3>is a specifically African American holiday. So the background to it,

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<v Speaker 3>it was started in nineteen sixty six by a gentleman

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<v Speaker 3>And basically it was started to be a Pan African celebration,

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<v Speaker 3>a political, a religious. So to be fair, you can

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<v Speaker 3>celebrate Christmas and Kwanza and the two do not conflict

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<v Speaker 3>in any way, shape or form, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a few things, a few symbols that take

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<v Speaker 3>place during this time. It's a seven day holiday. It

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<v Speaker 3>starts the day after Christmas and it goes in until

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<v Speaker 3>the uh I think the first we're gonna learn more

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<v Speaker 3>about it here in a moment. Each day there's a

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<v Speaker 3>candle that is lit. There is some poetry you should

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<v Speaker 3>read or or it's like seen as like the daily thought,

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<v Speaker 3>something you're supposed to contemplate and reflect on this day.

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<v Speaker 3>There is music that you're supposed to listen to, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna actually read about that as well. Earth Wind

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<v Speaker 3>and Fire is on that. So yeah, that's cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's weird. It's not, and I don't mean weird as

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<v Speaker 3>a negative thing. It's I had never really done much

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<v Speaker 3>digging into it, to be honest. The extent of my

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge on Kwanza came from the Proud Family. There was

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<v Speaker 3>an episode where they celebrated Kwansa with this family and

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<v Speaker 3>all that. So for any of our say I.

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<v Speaker 5>Thought it was a Jewish holiday, I'm not gonna lie

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<v Speaker 5>to you. I did for like a hot minute there.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was like a part of Jewish holidays.

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<v Speaker 3>The candle obra would make you think, so right, very

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<v Speaker 3>similar to how the the Hanukkah celebration we just learned

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<v Speaker 3>about has there thing so like you need more. I

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<v Speaker 3>but to your point, the candle lighting, it does kind

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<v Speaker 3>of resonate a certain way that make you think possibly

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<v Speaker 3>this is connected to Judaism. None whatsoever. It is not

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<v Speaker 3>related to Islam, Christendom, Judaism. There is no religious significance

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<v Speaker 3>to Kwanza whatsoever. It is specifically a cultural holiday. So

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<v Speaker 3>I got a quick little vigia here, and we are

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<v Speaker 3>gonna learn about Kwanza together using this video, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna go more into the details of it. And

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<v Speaker 3>then there is some uh con controversial uh some some

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<v Speaker 3>might say conspiratorial things to be said about Kwanza and

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<v Speaker 3>the creator thereof and really oh yeah, yeah again, good

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<v Speaker 3>cult members. Please, if you are somebody that celebrates Kwanza,

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<v Speaker 3>please habarghane to you. Okay, all the things and all

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<v Speaker 3>the stuff. I didn't know anything about this. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know that Marcus Garvey made his appearance into this, which

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't know who Marcus Garvey is, he is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most vehement violent racists against white people

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<v Speaker 3>ever on Earth. I didn't know that. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>that before we got started. I didn't know the creator

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<v Speaker 3>of Kwansa also was arrested and convicted for assaulting two women.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're gonna get to it all. We're gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>to it all because I don't I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>take away from Kwansa itself, because the celebration itself, it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of seems cool. It kind of seems cool. I

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<v Speaker 3>know that I can't celebrate it for multiple reasons, but

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<v Speaker 3>like I respect those that do, you know, and before

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<v Speaker 3>we get to the controversy, I should say that too.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're somebody who celebrates Kwansa, you know, more power

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<v Speaker 3>to you do not. Sometimes you gotta take the good

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<v Speaker 3>with the bad, right like you gotta take the Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>what they did was something good and you could you

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<v Speaker 3>could extrapolate the good from it. And it's not like

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<v Speaker 3>this instant of what happened with him takes away from

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<v Speaker 3>the holiday that he created by any stretch of the

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<v Speaker 3>imagination that actually happened years after. But we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>to it all. Sorry about the tangent on this one,

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<v Speaker 3>but anyway, let's learn about Kwansa together, good cult members.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna start off with this little vigia here. It's

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<v Speaker 3>of Kwansa and also how to celebrate it. Let's learn together.

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<v Speaker 4>Kwansa is a holiday that was started by doctor Malinga

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<v Speaker 4>Krenga in nineteen sixty six. The reason that he felt

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<v Speaker 4>a need to start a brand new holiday was because

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<v Speaker 4>he felt that African Americans that lived outside of the

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<v Speaker 4>continent of Africa were detached from the values and the

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<v Speaker 4>culture of the continent of Africa, and he wanted them

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<v Speaker 4>to feel good about themselves and to have something that

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<v Speaker 4>they could connect to to make their lives better. Kuansa

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<v Speaker 4>is actually derived from a Kiswa hilly word meaning first harvest.

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<v Speaker 4>All through the continent of Africa and many other places,

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<v Speaker 4>people celebrate the harvest. They give thanks for the harvest,

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<v Speaker 4>so Kwansa really means first fruits or harvest time. Quansa

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<v Speaker 4>is not a religious holiday. It's a cultural holiday, which

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<v Speaker 4>means that you can celebrate whatever your tradition is and

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<v Speaker 4>still enjoy Kwansa. Kwansa is observed the day after Christmas,

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<v Speaker 4>which means you could still celebrate Christmas from December twenty

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<v Speaker 4>sixth all the way through January first New Year's Day

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<v Speaker 4>to seven days, so the seven days you're actually celebrating

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<v Speaker 4>and thinking about seven principles. Those seven principles are called

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<v Speaker 4>the Nguza Saba. The seven principles of Kwanza are Omoja unity, kutishagualiyah,

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<v Speaker 4>self determination, Ujima, collective work and responsibility, Ujama cooperative economics,

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<v Speaker 4>Nia purpose, Koumba creativity, and last but not least, Imani faith.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are seven principles that everyone can use to have

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<v Speaker 4>a better life. It doesn't matter if you're African American,

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't matter where you're from. These seven principles will

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<v Speaker 4>help you to be a better human being and also

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<v Speaker 4>help to make the world a better place. The condelabra

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<v Speaker 4>for Kwansa is called a kinnora. It is seven candles

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<v Speaker 4>that represent again the seven principles. So the middle candle

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<v Speaker 4>is black that represents the people. Then you have three

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<v Speaker 4>candles representing the blood, and then three candles that represent

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<v Speaker 4>the earth or the hard work that you do. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that what resonates with people about this holiday is

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<v Speaker 4>that it really is a holiday that makes you look

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<v Speaker 4>within and then connect with the people around you. So

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<v Speaker 4>part of Quanta also is looking at your relationships people

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<v Speaker 4>who you might need to ask forgiveness from people who

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<v Speaker 4>you might need to forgive. The quansa celebration at the

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<v Speaker 4>American Museum of Natural History is literally the largest Quanta

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<v Speaker 4>celebration in the United States. Thousands and thousands of people

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<v Speaker 4>come in to see the Quantsa celebration, and as a storyteller,

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<v Speaker 4>I am just prouded. Every year I look forward to

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<v Speaker 4>coming and sharing with everyone about Quanza.

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<v Speaker 6>We have about ten thousand people that come together to

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<v Speaker 6>celebrate every year with the shows that include performances as

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<v Speaker 6>well as storytelling and teaching about the principles and all

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<v Speaker 6>of the nature of the holiday of Kwansa, as well

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<v Speaker 6>as a popular marketplace that opens for artisans to come

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<v Speaker 6>in tell the wares of the museum for just one day.

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<v Speaker 4>And you see people of every ethnicity, every race, every

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<v Speaker 4>religion coming together to celebrate love, to celebrate culture, to

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<v Speaker 4>celebrate through great and rich contribution of African Americans and

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<v Speaker 4>the African diaspora. What's wonderful about Kwansa for everyone is

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<v Speaker 4>that it gives everyone the opportunity to learn a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more about African American history, which is American history.

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<v Speaker 4>Then we also get the opportunity to be with family

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<v Speaker 4>and share personal stories. So when people of any ethnicity

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<v Speaker 4>come together and they hear these stories, it helps them

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<v Speaker 4>to understand one another better.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to Inside. Addition for the backstory into Kwanza. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of things I should mention here. Kwansa, as

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<v Speaker 3>the traditional holiday here is actually spelled with an extra

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<v Speaker 3>a at the end. Ye that she was talking about

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<v Speaker 3>as first fruit is actually only six letters, so they

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<v Speaker 3>added the seventh letter just to make it seven long,

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<v Speaker 3>as the holiday is seven days long. I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>That's pretty cool. I will say that one, she seems

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<v Speaker 5>like a really awesome person.

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<v Speaker 3>She seems like an awesome story tellers.

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<v Speaker 5>She really want to hang out with her and like

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<v Speaker 5>listen to her, do you stories to Actually, it sounds

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<v Speaker 5>like a fantastic celebration. I really like the seven principles

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<v Speaker 5>in what they represent. It sounds like overall it would

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<v Speaker 5>just be a great holiday for everybody. But also it's

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<v Speaker 5>a really cool holiday to celebrate African American history and

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<v Speaker 5>how they are tying their roots back to Africa and

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<v Speaker 5>doing more unity stuff. Sounds like, you're awesome holiday overall.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, agreed honestly, and I mean especially it makes

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<v Speaker 3>sense that this formed in the nineteen sixties civil rights

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<v Speaker 3>movement was on the rise, and the Black community was

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<v Speaker 3>trying to find a way to redisc cover their roots,

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<v Speaker 3>so to speak. Right, so many of them got brought

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<v Speaker 3>over against their will. They have no idea from what

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<v Speaker 3>tribe they originally came from, what culture they originally came from.

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<v Speaker 3>Blood tests are only so good, and I've seen I

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<v Speaker 3>had a corporal of mind in the Marine Corps. As

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<v Speaker 3>a matter of fact, when I was a PFC. He

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<v Speaker 3>and one of the sergeant majors they did a blood

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<v Speaker 3>test and there was a different type of test they

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<v Speaker 3>could do at the time, based off of some facial

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<v Speaker 3>features and things like this, and they discovered that they

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<v Speaker 3>were actually from the same tribe originally in Africa, like

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<v Speaker 3>at least the predominance in their DNA would show that

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<v Speaker 3>they were from this area. And I thought that was

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<v Speaker 3>really cool. But because there was so much detachment from

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<v Speaker 3>their ancestral history for them to come together and say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, fine, we are going to make our

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<v Speaker 3>own ancestral history. We're gonna base it off of nothing hate.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing that we heard just now had anything to do

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<v Speaker 3>with black superiority, white inferiority, nothing along these lines. If anything,

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<v Speaker 3>it was about community growth and community strengthening, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's awesome, to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the reflection and unity and faith and every I like,

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<v Speaker 5>really liked all the principles. I thought it was wonderful.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm curious to know more about this and how how

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<v Speaker 5>it celebrated. I never even really I mean, I've heard

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<v Speaker 5>about it because I have my neighbor's next door, but

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<v Speaker 5>they they are like Jamaican. She's Jamaican and actually was

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<v Speaker 3>England, and do they celebrate Quanta it's from.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they celebrate Kwanza. Honestly, we celebrate a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of holidays together, so that's why wouldn't be surprised that

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<v Speaker 5>they celebrate Kwanza. They're fantastic. They're like some of my

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<v Speaker 5>favorite people on Earth. I'm so blessed to have them

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<v Speaker 5>as wonderful neighbors. But agreed, Yeah, no, it's definitely a

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<v Speaker 5>It definitely sounds like a great holiday.

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<v Speaker 3>So I tried looking up how many people in America

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<v Speaker 3>celebrate Kwansa. Again, it's a American holiday, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>that there's like some people in Canada, some of African

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<v Speaker 3>descent in Canada that might celebrate it in their own

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<v Speaker 3>way or whatever. But as far as I can tell,

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<v Speaker 3>it is specifically celebrated. It's an American tradition right. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>it was only starting in the nineteen sixties. It is

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<v Speaker 3>not even one hundred years old yet, to be honest

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<v Speaker 3>with you. That being said, depending on the year, it

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<v Speaker 3>says anywhere between five hundred thousand and twelve million people.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a huge gap, very huge gap.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I mean, I mean it's also like, how do

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<v Speaker 3>you celebrate it? Right?

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<v Speaker 5>In?

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<v Speaker 3>What way? Is it? That's like saying, how many of

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<v Speaker 3>you celebrate Christmas? Even if you don't do the whole shebang? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you and your family celebrate the tree? You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Christmas is one of those things though that like,

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<v Speaker 5>some people celebrate parts of it, some people celebrate one

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<v Speaker 5>aspect of it, some people do all the shebang. It

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<v Speaker 5>depends on how It depends on your socioeconomic status, It

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<v Speaker 5>depends on your religious background, it depends on your family's traditions.

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<v Speaker 5>So I mean, obviously this would I feel like, be

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<v Speaker 5>on par with that, But it seems Eric does remind

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<v Speaker 5>me somewhat of Judaism when it comes to like they're

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<v Speaker 5>obviously the candles and what they represent. I'm curious to

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<v Speaker 5>do they have any like weird rules.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but I see what you're saying. When when they

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<v Speaker 3>decided to make this non religious, non political, cultural holiday,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna see some things that he pretty much borrowed

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<v Speaker 3>from a bunch of different other celebrations that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>go in line with the same thinking. But they took

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<v Speaker 3>it and made it their own right, and so that's

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<v Speaker 3>the background of that. But yeah, so the wide birth

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<v Speaker 3>of it. Just like you said, there's so many different

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<v Speaker 3>what level that poll was taken. Is it Well, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're not lighting the candles, then you're not celebrating. Does

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<v Speaker 3>it mean that you do you take these days and

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<v Speaker 3>reflect on the principles. Maybe you don't do the candles,

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<v Speaker 3>but you reflect on the principles. Is that how you

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<v Speaker 3>celebrate quants? And there's no we're gonna get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not many rules. There's a few key items that

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<v Speaker 3>are seen as the standard for lack of better words,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not like some strict adherents where if you

419
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<v Speaker 3>step out of line then the ancestors get mad at you.

420
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<v Speaker 3>By any means again, this will start in sixty six,

421
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<v Speaker 3>so we're gonna read in on it a little bit

422
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<v Speaker 3>more the Guide online. This is from Hayes High School.

423
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<v Speaker 3>As a matter of fact, shout out to Hayes High

424
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<v Speaker 3>School in Kansas, and the article is actually written this year. Christmas,

425
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<v Speaker 3>Honkah and Kwanza explains the differences. We're gonna jump ahead

426
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<v Speaker 3>here because we already know the differences between Christmas and

427
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<v Speaker 3>Hanukkah and how these are celebrated. We know about this,

428
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<v Speaker 3>but let's get into the quanta conversation. It says, lastly,

429
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<v Speaker 3>as Kwanza, this is the holiday that is probably the

430
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<v Speaker 3>least celebrated in this area and the least well known

431
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<v Speaker 3>among the three discussed in the article. This is likely

432
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<v Speaker 3>due to the fact that, unlike Christmas and Honkah, which

433
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<v Speaker 3>have religious ties, Kwanza is not tied to anyone religion

434
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<v Speaker 3>and is rather a cultural celebration. It is by far

435
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<v Speaker 3>the newest holiday, only found in nineteen sixty six by

436
00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:56.720
<v Speaker 3>doctor Mulana Kurenga. Again, keep a pin in that guy's

437
00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:59.079
<v Speaker 3>name for later. He's pretty much the entire reason for

438
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<v Speaker 3>this whole thing. An activist and professor to reaffirm African

439
00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:07.279
<v Speaker 3>heritage and culture for people with African descent. As a result,

440
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<v Speaker 3>it is most celebrated by African Americans. This week long

441
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<v Speaker 3>non religious celebration is observed from December twenty sixth to

442
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<v Speaker 3>January first, meaning one person can realistically celebrate both Kwansa

443
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<v Speaker 3>and Christmas. The name Kwanza is derived from the Swahili

444
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<v Speaker 3>phrase matunda yakwanza, which means first fruits. And again you

445
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<v Speaker 3>see the Swahili word Kwansa right, there as only six letters,

446
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<v Speaker 3>so they just added the extra a at the end

447
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<v Speaker 3>to make it a seven day things. You could put

448
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<v Speaker 3>it on the candleabra from what I could sell, the

449
00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:38.759
<v Speaker 3>extra a is had to make the word seven letters long,

450
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<v Speaker 3>representing these seven days of Kwansa. Hey. The holiday is

451
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<v Speaker 3>based on African harvesting festivals. During each evening, Kwanza families

452
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<v Speaker 3>light one of the mushuma saba, which is the seven

453
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<v Speaker 3>candles in the knara a candle holder. Oh and I

454
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:54.519
<v Speaker 3>should just go ahead and say this now. If I

455
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<v Speaker 3>butcher the pronunciation of any of these words, please do

456
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<v Speaker 3>not take it as a disrespect or a slight towards

457
00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:03.680
<v Speaker 3>the culture, good celebrators or Kwansa I mean no disrespect.

458
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.559
<v Speaker 3>I speak American English and barely at that. The knara

459
00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:11.720
<v Speaker 3>has one black candle, three red, and three green, representing

460
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<v Speaker 3>the people, the struggle, and the hope for future, respectively.

461
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<v Speaker 3>Each day of Kwansa is dedicated to one of seven

462
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<v Speaker 3>unguza saba principles, being with what you are learned earlier.

463
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<v Speaker 3>Emoja unity, could kuldj chaila gulia? Which is a determination?

464
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<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, got that one? Uh uji yama ujima.

465
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<v Speaker 5>It was terrible. Go ahead, Maybe just read you know what,

466
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<v Speaker 5>just maybe read a determination? Responsibility? Uh you know, principal creativity, faith.

467
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<v Speaker 3>You want me to americanize this American holiday that seems

468
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<v Speaker 3>rather culturally intuitively wrong.

469
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<v Speaker 5>Maybe Nia nia kumba kuumba?

470
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<v Speaker 3>Did you just say kumbaya?

471
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<v Speaker 5>And I was trying to think of how to say kumba?

472
00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:02.519
<v Speaker 5>You know what?

473
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:05.279
<v Speaker 3>Fuck? I can't it is what it is.

474
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<v Speaker 5>I'm terrible even trying to sound out words. I'm trying here.

475
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:10.720
<v Speaker 3>Look I get it, I get it. Anyway, let's get

476
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:14.640
<v Speaker 3>they sure enough did so. Now we're gonna swap over

477
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 3>to the Smithsonian article talking about the seven principles of

478
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:20.839
<v Speaker 3>kwans and this gives us a little more background into it.

479
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:24.279
<v Speaker 3>Also certain foods you're supposed to make on the certain days,

480
00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:28.039
<v Speaker 3>certain literature that you're supposed to pause and reflect on

481
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:31.119
<v Speaker 3>on these specific days, and certain music that you're supposed

482
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:34.319
<v Speaker 3>to listen to on these seven days. Gotta say, some

483
00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:38.160
<v Speaker 3>of these not my jam, some of them slap. I'm

484
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:39.799
<v Speaker 3>just gonna be real with you. I pretty much love

485
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:42.759
<v Speaker 3>anything earth wind and fire. I'll be honest with you.

486
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:46.359
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, let's get into it. The Seven Principles of Kwanza.

487
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<v Speaker 3>Kwanza is a time of learning, family, and celebration. During

488
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:54.039
<v Speaker 3>the week of Kwanza, families and communities come together to

489
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:57.519
<v Speaker 3>share a feast, to honor the ancestors, affirm the bonds

490
00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:01.279
<v Speaker 3>between them, and to celebrate African and African American culture.

491
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<v Speaker 3>You see the light of candle to highlight the principle

492
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:06.720
<v Speaker 3>of that day and to breathe meaning into the principles

493
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.640
<v Speaker 3>with various activities such as reciting the sayings or writings

494
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:15.559
<v Speaker 3>of great Black thinkers and writers, reciting original poetry, African drumming,

495
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:19.640
<v Speaker 3>and sharing of a meal of African diaspora inspired foods.

496
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:22.519
<v Speaker 3>The table is decorated with the essential symbols of Quansas,

497
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:24.839
<v Speaker 3>such as the canara which is the candle holder, the

498
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:29.000
<v Speaker 3>macheka which is the matt mahindi which is corn to

499
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:31.400
<v Speaker 3>represent the children. Put up pen in that one for

500
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:36.519
<v Speaker 3>later as well. Just gonna say that maezo or mazeo

501
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.079
<v Speaker 3>fruit to represent the harvest, zowadi which is gifts. There

502
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:43.079
<v Speaker 3>is a little bit of a gift exchange here, but

503
00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:46.039
<v Speaker 3>from what I could tell, it's nothing. It's not like

504
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Santa Claus gifts. It's more like very small and personalized gifts,

505
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:54.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, just something to you know, give to your

506
00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 3>loved ones, to a celebration type of thing. You know.

507
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<v Speaker 5>I do like that this is a cultural celebration rather

508
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 5>than face space.

509
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:06.079
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty cool, agreed. So again, one might also see

510
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<v Speaker 3>the colors of the Pan African flag, red the struggle,

511
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:12.160
<v Speaker 3>black the people, and green the future, which is again

512
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.599
<v Speaker 3>represented in the candles as well and represented throughout the

513
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:19.200
<v Speaker 3>space and in the clothing worn by participants. These colors

514
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.799
<v Speaker 3>were first proclaimed to be the colors for all people

515
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:26.559
<v Speaker 3>of African diaspora by Marcus Garvey. Again, if you don't

516
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:28.720
<v Speaker 3>know who Marcus Garvey is, I'm not gonna be the

517
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 3>one to tell the kids there's no Santa Claus here,

518
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 3>but uh, he did a lot for people of African descent,

519
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:38.359
<v Speaker 3>not gonna take that away from him. I will also

520
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:46.680
<v Speaker 3>say he was some some might see him as the

521
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:50.720
<v Speaker 3>tiny mustache man of the black community, and I will

522
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:51.279
<v Speaker 3>actually have.

523
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.799
<v Speaker 5>No idea who this is. I'm not Actually, I'm not

524
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 5>gonna lie to you. I was like, who's Marcus.

525
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be honest with That's that's probably a good thing, honestly.

526
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:01.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we're gonna leave it that if it's like the

527
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:03.880
<v Speaker 5>tiny mustache dude, so we're just gonna would have been

528
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<v Speaker 5>in that one and just leave it alone.

529
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:09.519
<v Speaker 3>If you ever seen shirts like a Killer Mike for instance,

530
00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 3>he well, you wouldn't know who that is because you

531
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:12.440
<v Speaker 3>think rap is horrible.

532
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 5>And literally was like, who are we talking about?

533
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Jesus Christ Raven? Okay, Killer Mike is a rap artist.

534
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:22.920
<v Speaker 5>Name a rock band, and I'll be like, okay.

535
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:25.839
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, okay, cap Can Killer Mike is a rap

536
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:29.799
<v Speaker 3>artist who I happened to like his music. And when

537
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:32.720
<v Speaker 3>Trump got elected, he went and did a press conference

538
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.359
<v Speaker 3>with a T shirt saying kill the White Man. This

539
00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:39.480
<v Speaker 3>was a quote from mister Garvey. You can take that

540
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:41.480
<v Speaker 3>to whatever level and depth you'd want to. We're talking

541
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<v Speaker 3>about Kwanza today.

542
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:46.839
<v Speaker 5>You know, Kwansa is a peaceful, it is happy holiday,

543
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:48.119
<v Speaker 5>and that's where we're gonna be staying.

544
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:50.799
<v Speaker 3>That's right. Well for now, we're gonna talk about the

545
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:53.200
<v Speaker 3>founder of a here in a bit anyway, So on

546
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<v Speaker 3>each day of Kwanza, light a candle for that day's

547
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.400
<v Speaker 3>principle in your candle holder or again kenara uh. Now

548
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.559
<v Speaker 3>we're going to go over these umoja, which is unity.

549
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.559
<v Speaker 3>This is day one to strive for and maintain unity

550
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:12.880
<v Speaker 3>in the family, community, nation, and race. The song for

551
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:17.480
<v Speaker 3>reflection is worth his weight in gold from Steel Pulse,

552
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 3>also called Rally Round the Flag. Thought for the Day

553
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:25.799
<v Speaker 3>is from Tony Morrison Beloved, first edition. This is a

554
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 3>poem from nineteen eighty seven, believe it or not, or

555
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:30.200
<v Speaker 3>at least that's the first edition that it was published.

556
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<v Speaker 3>We're not going to read the entire thing, but we

557
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:36.839
<v Speaker 3>can at least tell it. Baby Sugs Holy gives a

558
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.079
<v Speaker 3>sermon in the clearing. This is from this work the Beloved.

559
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Here she said, in this here place we flesh, flesh

560
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.440
<v Speaker 3>that weeps laughs, flesh that dances on bare feet and

561
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:51.880
<v Speaker 3>grass love it, love it hard. Yonder. They do not

562
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.359
<v Speaker 3>love your flesh. They despise it. They don't love your eyes,

563
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:58.680
<v Speaker 3>They just as soon pluck them out. No more do

564
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:01.720
<v Speaker 3>they love your skin on your back, Yonder, they flay it.

565
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:04.599
<v Speaker 3>And oh, my people, they do not love your hands.

566
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:09.680
<v Speaker 3>Those they only use to use, tie, bind, chop off

567
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:12.880
<v Speaker 3>and leave empty. Love your hands, love them, raise them

568
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:16.039
<v Speaker 3>up and kiss them, touch others with them, pat them together,

569
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.720
<v Speaker 3>Stroke them on your face. Because they don't love that either.

570
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.240
<v Speaker 3>You got to love it you and know they ain't

571
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.279
<v Speaker 3>in love with your mouth. Yonder. Out there, they will

572
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.279
<v Speaker 3>see it broken and break it again. What you say

573
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 3>out of it, they will not heat what you scream

574
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.079
<v Speaker 3>from it, they will not hear. I'm not going to

575
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:36.200
<v Speaker 3>read the entire thing, but as you can tell, it

576
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:41.000
<v Speaker 3>is very much of love yourself, because no one else

577
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 3>is going to love you. Obviously, there's a little bit

578
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.400
<v Speaker 3>of some racial tension on this, as you can tell. Anyway,

579
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:58.119
<v Speaker 3>The next one j kuji chaulia, kuji chigulia. How would

580
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.000
<v Speaker 3>you pronounce it? Ah?

581
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:02.359
<v Speaker 5>I have no idea. I guess we should watch the

582
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:04.920
<v Speaker 5>video again. I'm not I'm not gonna I'm not even

583
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.519
<v Speaker 5>gonna try, because there's just no way that I'm going

584
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:08.799
<v Speaker 5>to get this correct.

585
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Again it to any of the celebraties of Kwanza. No

586
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:15.559
<v Speaker 3>disrespect intended, Kujakulie. I don't know, yes, see, I don't know.

587
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:18.920
<v Speaker 5>Look, I can't even get half the words down here correct.

588
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 5>What do you think I'm going to be able to say?

589
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:22.359
<v Speaker 5>It's Swahili, that's very fair.

590
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:27.079
<v Speaker 3>Self determination. Self determination is what we're talking about here,

591
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:31.759
<v Speaker 3>to define ourselves, name ourselves, create for ourselves, and speak

592
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:35.960
<v Speaker 3>for ourselves. The song of reflection here is I am

593
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:38.920
<v Speaker 3>the black gold of the sun by rotary connection and

594
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.480
<v Speaker 3>many Repton Reperton. Rather, the thought of the day comes

595
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:46.920
<v Speaker 3>from Daniel Black the coming this It says from twenty fifteen,

596
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:49.559
<v Speaker 3>but I don't believe that that's the original, But either way,

597
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:52.359
<v Speaker 3>I'll read at least a little bit of it. We

598
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:55.400
<v Speaker 3>didn't know we wouldn't return. We simply believed some terrible

599
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:58.720
<v Speaker 3>calamity had befallen us, that our gods had let tragedy

600
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.559
<v Speaker 3>come because we had not honored them. But we were wrong.

601
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:07.200
<v Speaker 3>We were warriors and hunters, poets and jail poets and

602
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:11.880
<v Speaker 3>jail farmers and soothsayers oh jolly, excuse me, ja l.

603
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 5>I my, I guess I'm really say I thought that

604
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:15.639
<v Speaker 5>I said jail to you twice.

605
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.239
<v Speaker 3>I was like, man, I might be dyslexic. God damn anyway. Okay,

606
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:23.199
<v Speaker 3>So we were magicians and healers, artisans and thinkers, writers

607
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:26.000
<v Speaker 3>and dancers. We were fathers and mothers, sisters and brothers,

608
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:29.239
<v Speaker 3>cousins and kinsmen. We were lovers and we were home.

609
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.920
<v Speaker 3>We loved the land and it loved us. We were

610
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:34.800
<v Speaker 3>black like the land and kissed by the sun. We

611
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:38.400
<v Speaker 3>knew our strengths and our frailities, and we knew much.

612
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:43.079
<v Speaker 3>We knew much needed improvement. But we were home. So

613
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:46.199
<v Speaker 3>that is the thought for the day of self determination.

614
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:53.119
<v Speaker 3>Okay oujima collective work and responsibility to build and maintain

615
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:56.719
<v Speaker 3>our community together and make our communities problems our problems

616
00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:01.679
<v Speaker 3>and solve them together. Okay. Song of Reflection, Yeah, I

617
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.159
<v Speaker 3>like that too. The song for reflection is Sounds of Blackness.

618
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:07.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be honest, I look this one up. I

619
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.400
<v Speaker 3>found like five different versions of songs that called themselves

620
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.159
<v Speaker 3>sounds of Blackness. I do believe that this is the

621
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.679
<v Speaker 3>original from the nineteen sixties, not the one from the

622
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:20.039
<v Speaker 3>nineteen nineties. I'm just gonna throw that out there. But hey,

623
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:21.840
<v Speaker 3>you celebrate what scene you want to.

624
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.039
<v Speaker 5>I mean, this was created in sixty six, so I'm

625
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 5>assuming everything was actually originally made in the sixties, maybe

626
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:32.639
<v Speaker 5>potentially early seventies, not twenty fifteen and twenty ten.

627
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.840
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know how much of this was like

628
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:39.000
<v Speaker 3>written down back when it was founded, or how much

629
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:41.320
<v Speaker 3>of this they kind of you know, adopted over time

630
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:43.280
<v Speaker 3>and made it to what it is today. I honestly

631
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:44.000
<v Speaker 3>couldn't tell you.

632
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.679
<v Speaker 5>I mean, but who adopted it and created more of it?

633
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:49.320
<v Speaker 5>That's I guess what I'm curious about.

634
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I couldn't find anything as far as like who's

635
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:56.719
<v Speaker 3>the authoritative body over the holiday, Like there's no it's

636
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:58.559
<v Speaker 3>not like this is a religious movement.

637
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:00.800
<v Speaker 5>Where well, no, it's a where they say it the

638
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:03.320
<v Speaker 5>American American Heritage.

639
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:05.880
<v Speaker 3>The American Heritage Museum in DC. But even still, that's

640
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:09.199
<v Speaker 3>just the biggest quans of gathering. There's no like figurehead

641
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 3>of quansa that decides what is and is not, uh

642
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:16.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, falling in line. It's again, this is not

643
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.119
<v Speaker 3>like a religious holiday where you would go to a

644
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:20.119
<v Speaker 3>priest or a past or whatever, and they would make

645
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 3>the determination this is a cultural holiday. So just as

646
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:28.119
<v Speaker 3>the culture shifts and formulates and molds in time, quansap

647
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.760
<v Speaker 3>very well might also do the same thing. I don't know, hmm.

648
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:35.679
<v Speaker 5>I wonder if it's like changes depending on your city,

649
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.000
<v Speaker 5>depends on Like I wonder if this is something that

650
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:41.239
<v Speaker 5>just gets like things added.

651
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Into it or maybe so.

652
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 5>I wonder if it was like originally like an outline

653
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.519
<v Speaker 5>and then people have added into it. But then who

654
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.679
<v Speaker 5>is the one's adding into it and who's right now

655
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:55.079
<v Speaker 5>I'm getting confused, Like I want to know. I want

656
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:57.639
<v Speaker 5>to know more of how this is like established or

657
00:36:57.639 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 5>if it changes per people. I wonder if we have

658
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:03.480
<v Speaker 5>anybody in the cult that actually practices, if they could

659
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:05.320
<v Speaker 5>like share some information with us.

660
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:07.480
<v Speaker 3>That would be dope. If you are listening to this,

661
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 3>good cult member, and you would like to tell us

662
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:12.159
<v Speaker 3>how you and your people celebrate your Kwanza, I would

663
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:13.880
<v Speaker 3>love to know. I would love to know, because we're

664
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 3>only going off with the articles and the videos that

665
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:18.840
<v Speaker 3>we have pulled up. If there's more things here that

666
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:22.639
<v Speaker 3>we're just missing out right, please educate us. We don't know.

667
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:24.719
<v Speaker 3>We are lost in a sea of our own caucacity

668
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.559
<v Speaker 3>on this one, i'mna be honest. But that being said,

669
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:32.119
<v Speaker 3>so the main tenants have stayed the same. The seven principles,

670
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:35.280
<v Speaker 3>those don't change. Maybe how someone reflects on these things

671
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:38.679
<v Speaker 3>might alter a bit, but these seven principles themselves don't change.

672
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:43.400
<v Speaker 3>The knara doesn't change, the candle colors don't change, the

673
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:48.000
<v Speaker 3>matt the corn doesn't change. Which again we'll get to

674
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:50.840
<v Speaker 3>that one in a bit. But there's a few key

675
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:55.039
<v Speaker 3>things that is definitely like within the ritual of Quansa,

676
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 3>and then everything else seems to be kind of open

677
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:02.159
<v Speaker 3>into interpretation. Yeah. Anyway, so Sounds of Blackness as a

678
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:04.880
<v Speaker 3>song of reflection for Ujima and the thought of the

679
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:08.519
<v Speaker 3>day is from Isabelle Wilkerson the warmth of other sons,

680
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:13.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, we could read though, Yeah, and this is

681
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:15.400
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. I wonder if some of these reflections

682
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:18.119
<v Speaker 3>kind of came about later on, but the song might

683
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:22.480
<v Speaker 3>be like Cannon, I don't know. Over the decades, perhaps

684
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.039
<v Speaker 3>the wrong questions have been asked about the Great Migration.

685
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Perhaps there's not a question of whether the migrants brought

686
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:30.519
<v Speaker 3>good or ill to the cities they fled or were

687
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:33.800
<v Speaker 3>pushed or pulled to their destinations, but a question of

688
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:36.360
<v Speaker 3>how they summoned the courage to leave in the first place,

689
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.519
<v Speaker 3>or how they found the will to press beyond the

690
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:41.039
<v Speaker 3>forces against them and the faith in a country that

691
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 3>had rejected them for so long. By their actions, they

692
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.360
<v Speaker 3>did not dream the American dream. They willed it into

693
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:51.320
<v Speaker 3>being by a definition of their own choosing. They did

694
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:54.639
<v Speaker 3>not ask to be accepted, but declared themselves the Americans

695
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:57.960
<v Speaker 3>that perhaps few others recognized, but that they had always

696
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:01.039
<v Speaker 3>been deep within their hearts. That one like that on

697
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:07.400
<v Speaker 3>one pretty good. The next one is Ujama cooperative economics.

698
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:09.519
<v Speaker 3>I find that to be interesting that that would be

699
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:12.079
<v Speaker 3>a principle of this holiday. But at the same time,

700
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:15.000
<v Speaker 3>why not, right.

701
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:16.559
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it makes sense to me.

702
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.559
<v Speaker 3>So I've read a couple of things about this on

703
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:25.559
<v Speaker 3>these days. Specifically, you, as a celebrator of Kwanza should

704
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:29.920
<v Speaker 3>look to help local black owned small businesses.

705
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 5>That's what I assumed it meant, was supporting black owned

706
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:38.400
<v Speaker 5>businesses and you know, supporting their people within their own community.

707
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:39.159
<v Speaker 3>For sure, at.

708
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:43.199
<v Speaker 5>Least that's what I are automatically assumed, which you know

709
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:45.840
<v Speaker 5>makes sense, especially like if you have small communities. I

710
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.480
<v Speaker 5>mean hew Chinese community support Chinese people within their communities.

711
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:52.719
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, and like big time, like they shop within

712
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:55.079
<v Speaker 5>all of their communities and they pretty much that's where

713
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:57.960
<v Speaker 5>they stay. So I mean the Jewish people do the

714
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:00.679
<v Speaker 5>same thing. So absolutely it would make to me that

715
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:05.320
<v Speaker 5>this would be a principle of just maintaining orally supporting

716
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.840
<v Speaker 5>their own people within their communities instead of branching out

717
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:10.639
<v Speaker 5>and buying things from other companies.

718
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:14.079
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, so it goes on to say to build and

719
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.920
<v Speaker 3>maintain our own stores, shops and other businesses and to

720
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:22.159
<v Speaker 3>profit from them together. Absolutely. The song for reflection on

721
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.400
<v Speaker 3>this day is We're a Winner by Curtis Mayfield. A

722
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:27.960
<v Speaker 3>banger of a song I should mention thought for the

723
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:32.280
<v Speaker 3>day is from Angela Davis, an autobiography of her. As

724
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:34.960
<v Speaker 3>a matter of fact, this is my first introduction to

725
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.639
<v Speaker 3>class differences among my own people. We were not we worthy,

726
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:42.719
<v Speaker 3>not so poor until my experiences at school. I believe

727
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.280
<v Speaker 3>that everyone else lived the way we did. We always

728
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:47.599
<v Speaker 3>had three good meals a day. I had summer clothes

729
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:51.280
<v Speaker 3>and winter clothes, everyday dresses, and a few Sunday dresses.

730
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:53.920
<v Speaker 3>When holes began to wear through my shoes the soles

731
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:57.320
<v Speaker 3>of my shoes. Although I may have warned them pasteboard

732
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.320
<v Speaker 3>for a short time, we eventually went downtown to select

733
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:03.519
<v Speaker 3>a new pair. The family income was earned by both

734
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:05.719
<v Speaker 3>my mother and father before I was born. My father

735
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:07.960
<v Speaker 3>had taken advantage of his hard earned college degree from

736
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Saint Augustine's in Raleigh, North Carolina, Raleigh rather Ali Yeah Raleigh,

737
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:16.480
<v Speaker 3>to secure a position teaching history at Parker High School.

738
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:20.159
<v Speaker 3>But life was especially difficult during those years. His salary

739
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.719
<v Speaker 3>was close to nothing as money could be, so with

740
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.159
<v Speaker 3>his meager savings, he began to buy a service station

741
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:29.000
<v Speaker 3>in the black section of downtown Birmingham. My mother, who

742
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:31.760
<v Speaker 3>like my father came from a very humble background, also

743
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:34.119
<v Speaker 3>worked her way through college and got a job teaching

744
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:37.800
<v Speaker 3>at the Birmingham Elementary school system. The combined salaries were

745
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.280
<v Speaker 3>nothing to boast about, yet enough to survive on, and

746
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:44.199
<v Speaker 3>much more than was earned by the typical southern black family.

747
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:46.880
<v Speaker 3>They had managed to save enough to buy the old

748
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:49.159
<v Speaker 3>house on the hill, but they had to rent out

749
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:51.880
<v Speaker 3>the upstairs for years to make the mortgage payments. Until

750
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.079
<v Speaker 3>I went to school, I did not know that this

751
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.960
<v Speaker 3>was a stunning accomplishment. Oh, there's a thought for the

752
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 3>day for you now. Nia is purpose to make our

753
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:08.360
<v Speaker 3>collective vocation the building and development of our community in

754
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:12.440
<v Speaker 3>order to restore our people to their traditional greatness. The

755
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:16.239
<v Speaker 3>song for reflection is Higher Ground by the great Stevie Wonder.

756
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:20.000
<v Speaker 3>The thought of the day is Poem about My Rights

757
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.360
<v Speaker 3>by June Jordan. And they actually don't have an excerpt

758
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:23.719
<v Speaker 3>from it, but if you would like to go check

759
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.639
<v Speaker 3>it out, good cult members, please do so. And oh,

760
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:28.840
<v Speaker 3>I forgot to mention there's recipes for each day. Damn it,

761
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:30.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm meant to say something about that.

762
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.880
<v Speaker 5>I just saw that. I was like, wait, there's a recipe.

763
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:36.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So the first day, well, let's backtrack here, umoja

764
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:40.840
<v Speaker 3>the day, the recipe should involve dates, figs and milk.

765
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:46.360
<v Speaker 3>All right, So the next one kuji chuk guliyah. Yeah. Uh.

766
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:52.719
<v Speaker 3>That day's recipe should include seasoned olives yum ujima. The

767
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:58.159
<v Speaker 3>third day, the recipe should include Caribbean soirel solid.

768
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:01.599
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what that is, actually sorrel.

769
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:05.320
<v Speaker 3>I've had in foods, but now like being asked about it,

770
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:08.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't actually know. So we're gonna we're gonna look

771
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:10.559
<v Speaker 3>this up. I want to say, is it like fat.

772
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:12.039
<v Speaker 5>Uh?

773
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:12.280
<v Speaker 4>No?

774
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.760
<v Speaker 3>No, no, I'm sorry a tangy lemon lemony herb like

775
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:20.079
<v Speaker 3>remix uh Kesota using cooking for salads, soups, and sauces,

776
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 3>known for its bright sour flavor. I've had it, yeah,

777
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:24.360
<v Speaker 3>I I've had it before.

778
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:26.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah no, I've had it. I just didn't know what

779
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:31.119
<v Speaker 5>that was. So I was like, okay, so we learned something.

780
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:33.880
<v Speaker 3>New every day we do indeed, So yeah, Caribbean sorrel

781
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:37.159
<v Speaker 3>should be used in the third day oujama Uh. This

782
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:42.840
<v Speaker 3>should include pink party punch. Hell yeah, I don't know

783
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.320
<v Speaker 3>what it is, but like fuck yeah, I like the

784
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 3>way they're going here. Man, all right, so nia it

785
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:53.320
<v Speaker 3>should involve salted pecans. Hell yeah. I do like that.

786
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:56.119
<v Speaker 5>They have children activities too for every day as well, So.

787
00:43:56.199 --> 00:44:00.079
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty cool. There's like coloring books, there's games you

788
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:02.199
<v Speaker 3>could play with your kids to teach them more about it.

789
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:07.400
<v Speaker 3>It's this is a real cultural and community holiday and

790
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:08.400
<v Speaker 3>that's awesome.

791
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:10.719
<v Speaker 5>So like they could all that's really cool that they

792
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:13.199
<v Speaker 5>have a palm to read, a song to listen to,

793
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:16.559
<v Speaker 5>and a recipe to cook and children activities so that

794
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:22.360
<v Speaker 5>they're strengthening their fem Wow, I can talk family unity absolutely,

795
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:23.920
<v Speaker 5>so I think this is wonderful.

796
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Actually, so now the next day kumba, which is creativity

797
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:32.159
<v Speaker 3>to all to do always as much as we can

798
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:35.119
<v Speaker 3>to leave our community more beautiful and beneficial than when

799
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.119
<v Speaker 3>we inherited it. I mean, how can how can you

800
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:39.599
<v Speaker 3>come against that? Right?

801
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:41.639
<v Speaker 5>You can't argue against this at all. I mean every

802
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:43.239
<v Speaker 5>principle so far has been wonderful.

803
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:46.639
<v Speaker 3>So absolutely. The song for reflection on this day is

804
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:51.239
<v Speaker 3>Africa by the great John Coltrane, and the thought for

805
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:56.519
<v Speaker 3>the day is from Leroy Jones Amre Baraka Blues people,

806
00:44:56.760 --> 00:44:59.679
<v Speaker 3>Negro music in White America. It was a song from

807
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 3>nineteen seen sixty three. Uh, I'm not going to try

808
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:06.960
<v Speaker 3>to actually I'll read a little bit of it. How

809
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:09.760
<v Speaker 3>did it do this? What was so powerful and desperate

810
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:14.039
<v Speaker 3>in this music that guaranteed its continued existence? This is

811
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:16.559
<v Speaker 3>what pushed me. But as it began to get into

812
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:19.559
<v Speaker 3>the history of music, I found that it was impossible

813
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:22.199
<v Speaker 3>without at the same time getting deeper into the history

814
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.559
<v Speaker 3>of the people. That is what the history of the

815
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:29.760
<v Speaker 3>Afro American people as text as tail, as story, as exposition, narrative,

816
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 3>or what have you, that the music was the score,

817
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:38.360
<v Speaker 3>the actually expressed, creative, orchestrated, vocalized, hummed, chanted, blown, scattered

818
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.800
<v Speaker 3>colary confirmed confirmation rather of the history, and that one

819
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 3>could go from one to the other, actually from the

820
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:50.679
<v Speaker 3>inside to the outside or reverse and be talking about

821
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:53.960
<v Speaker 3>the same thing. That music was explaining the history, as

822
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:57.639
<v Speaker 3>the history was explaining the music, that both were expressions

823
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:02.119
<v Speaker 3>of and reflections of the people. I like it, And

824
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:05.119
<v Speaker 3>for the record, I do love traditional blues music one

825
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:05.719
<v Speaker 3>hundred percent.

826
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:08.280
<v Speaker 5>Blues is wonderful music.

827
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:10.480
<v Speaker 3>So it is I actually really like that.

828
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:14.320
<v Speaker 5>I think it's really interesting how music has been one

829
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.199
<v Speaker 5>of those things that even in like the worst of times,

830
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:20.400
<v Speaker 5>people will always find a way to use music to

831
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.679
<v Speaker 5>lift their spirits or release to keep going, depending on

832
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:26.599
<v Speaker 5>you know what scenario and stuff. But music is one

833
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:28.639
<v Speaker 5>of those things that it seems just inherent to people

834
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:30.599
<v Speaker 5>always agreed.

835
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Agreed one hundred percent, especially when you're talking about blues music,

836
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.679
<v Speaker 3>because you could see how that transferred from nineteen forties

837
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.920
<v Speaker 3>and fifties and sixties blues to even into the seventies, eighties,

838
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:44.039
<v Speaker 3>and nineties. Basically, look at BB King, I understand he

839
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 3>is the King of blues music. But you look at

840
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:48.599
<v Speaker 3>his first album he ever cut, as opposed to the

841
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:51.480
<v Speaker 3>last album he ever cut, and you could watch the

842
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:54.719
<v Speaker 3>transition of music, and that could be used as a

843
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:58.239
<v Speaker 3>litmus test almost to see the transfer of culture, honestly,

844
00:46:58.760 --> 00:46:59.239
<v Speaker 3>And I love it.

845
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:01.679
<v Speaker 5>I like the I like the line from the inside

846
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:05.639
<v Speaker 5>to the outside and reverse. Yeah, I definitely that definitely

847
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.400
<v Speaker 5>resonates with me, at least when I was thinking of blues,

848
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 5>That's what I think about. I used to listen to

849
00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:14.519
<v Speaker 5>blues all the time, actually with my grandma on the

850
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:15.159
<v Speaker 5>way to school.

851
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:18.320
<v Speaker 3>And you know that's another thing too. We talk about

852
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:20.119
<v Speaker 3>music a good bit, right, And there's music.

853
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:22.639
<v Speaker 5>We've talked a lot about music in the last few weeks.

854
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.079
<v Speaker 5>Sorry everybody, I.

855
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:27.440
<v Speaker 3>Am not gonna apologize for that whatever, Okay, but hear

856
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:31.079
<v Speaker 3>me out. There's music that can be mass produced and

857
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:34.679
<v Speaker 3>cookie cutter as hell. Rock music can do that. Look

858
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:40.079
<v Speaker 3>at any of the pop punk music from our teenage years.

859
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:42.079
<v Speaker 3>They all pretty much are saying the same thing.

860
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:44.159
<v Speaker 5>The same way. I mean, there's a lot of music

861
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:45.639
<v Speaker 5>that can match each other.

862
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Rap music absolutely, country music, absolutely all of them. They

863
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:54.360
<v Speaker 3>can be cookie cuttered and fake. You can't fake blues.

864
00:47:55.559 --> 00:48:01.440
<v Speaker 5>No Blues is a soulful, spiritual journey. Yes, every single

865
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:05.400
<v Speaker 5>person sounds different from each other. Now, they might have

866
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:08.320
<v Speaker 5>the same kind of tone esque and kind of like

867
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:13.119
<v Speaker 5>the similarities might be somewhat there, but every single blues

868
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:16.280
<v Speaker 5>artist sounds at least somewhat different from each other.

869
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:19.440
<v Speaker 3>There's a song from David allen Coe and I know

870
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:21.719
<v Speaker 3>it's really weird to bring him up as they're talking

871
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 3>about Kwanza because he was a out, out, loud and

872
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:27.760
<v Speaker 3>proud racist. But hear me out here.

873
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:29.400
<v Speaker 5>I don't know who that. I don't know that. I'm

874
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:30.199
<v Speaker 5>terrible with names.

875
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:32.280
<v Speaker 3>It's like traditional country singer.

876
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:35.039
<v Speaker 5>Okay, like hearing the music, I will know.

877
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.119
<v Speaker 3>But you ever heard Long Hard Ride?

878
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:38.639
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

879
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:42.360
<v Speaker 3>Do you know the sounds a country song? Yeah, So

880
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:44.760
<v Speaker 3>basically the story of this song is he gets in

881
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 3>a car. He's like trying to hitchhike down the road.

882
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:48.360
<v Speaker 3>He's got his guitar and on his back and he's

883
00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:51.760
<v Speaker 3>trying to make it to Nashville. Right this this old

884
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.159
<v Speaker 3>nineteen fifties Cadillac pulls up and he gets in the

885
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:57.480
<v Speaker 3>car and he realizes, like something's a little different about

886
00:48:57.480 --> 00:48:59.760
<v Speaker 3>this ride, and the dude driving is asking is like,

887
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:01.840
<v Speaker 3>so you're a singer, huh, well, can you make folks

888
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 3>cry when you play and sing? Can you? Can you

889
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:05.599
<v Speaker 3>play the blues?

890
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:06.440
<v Speaker 5>Right?

891
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:08.599
<v Speaker 3>Can you? Can you in those strings? Can you make

892
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:11.960
<v Speaker 3>folks feel what you feel inside? Because if you're trying to,

893
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:13.719
<v Speaker 3>if you're a big star bound, I'm gonna say it's

894
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:16.159
<v Speaker 3>a long, hard ride. That's the overall principle of it.

895
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:18.880
<v Speaker 3>But my point is blues is something that you have

896
00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:22.719
<v Speaker 3>to make the folks listening feel what you're feeling in

897
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.639
<v Speaker 3>your heart. If you fake it, you are not going

898
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:28.400
<v Speaker 3>to be a blues player. Sorry, this is not gonna happen.

899
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:33.000
<v Speaker 5>I agree, I totally agree, and I like the the

900
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:38.480
<v Speaker 5>whole thing about it. Definitely definitely represents blues, especially during

901
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:40.559
<v Speaker 5>that time as well in nineteen sixty three.

902
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, the recipe for the day of Kumba needs

903
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:52.280
<v Speaker 3>to involve molasses water. Okay, I do not like molasses.

904
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:54.920
<v Speaker 3>You don't like barbecue sauce.

905
00:49:56.039 --> 00:50:00.960
<v Speaker 5>I do like sauce, but like the It depends on

906
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:04.280
<v Speaker 5>the flavor of it. But like the molasses, molasses flavor

907
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:08.000
<v Speaker 5>is not not my geam. I'm not gonna lie.

908
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:11.400
<v Speaker 3>I love the smell of it. I don't know if

909
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:13.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't really cook with a lot, and I got

910
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:16.920
<v Speaker 3>it so working at the sugar refiner like I used to,

911
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:20.360
<v Speaker 3>that is that's essentially what the differences between brown sugar

912
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 3>and white sugar.

913
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:22.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

914
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.639
<v Speaker 3>Right, So for anybody who doesn't know, you take raw sugar,

915
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:26.960
<v Speaker 3>you cook it, you boil it out, and then you

916
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:29.519
<v Speaker 3>separate the molasses from the white sugar, and then that

917
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:32.000
<v Speaker 3>white sugar gets dried out and granulated, and that is

918
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:35.400
<v Speaker 3>what when it's like, you know, crystallized sugar, that's all

919
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:37.519
<v Speaker 3>it is. There's no chemicals, there's no bleach, none of

920
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:38.679
<v Speaker 3>these things. You're just cooking it.

921
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Right.

922
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:42.199
<v Speaker 3>The molasses then gets extracted and it goes into a

923
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.599
<v Speaker 3>lighter and darker molasses and it gets sprayed back onto

924
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:47.960
<v Speaker 3>the white sugar, and that's where we get brown sugar from.

925
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:50.880
<v Speaker 3>That's that's all that is. But the molasses itself can

926
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:52.039
<v Speaker 3>also be so yeah, that's it.

927
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:56.960
<v Speaker 5>Man. I feel, you know, I feel like I am

928
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:59.440
<v Speaker 5>intelligent until i I'm on this show and then I'm.

929
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.920
<v Speaker 3>Like note, and most people don't know that. Most people

930
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:04.079
<v Speaker 3>think that brown sugar has grown a different way, and

931
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:06.400
<v Speaker 3>it's like no, no, it's just white sugar different.

932
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:06.559
<v Speaker 4>Wait.

933
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:09.119
<v Speaker 5>Honestly, I just thought it was maybe cooked slightly different,

934
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:11.480
<v Speaker 5>or there was like a different chemical process to it.

935
00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:13.920
<v Speaker 3>That's I didn't know until I started working there and

936
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:16.880
<v Speaker 3>then had to work on the sprayers that sprayed the

937
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:20.480
<v Speaker 3>molasses on the brown sugar line. I'm like, wait what, No, Like, yeah,

938
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:22.360
<v Speaker 3>you ever seen it the sort of light brown sugar

939
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:23.920
<v Speaker 3>and dark brown And I'm like, dark brown.

940
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:24.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

941
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:27.280
<v Speaker 3>He's like, yeah, the dark brown just got sprayed three times.

942
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:30.159
<v Speaker 3>That's the difference. The light brown just got sprayed once.

943
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:34.559
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, that's it's just molasses dipped sugar. He's like, yep,

944
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:36.360
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea.

945
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:40.599
<v Speaker 5>Wow, well man, we just learned all sorts of knowledge tonight. Guys.

946
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'd be like that, you know. I hope, I

947
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:44.960
<v Speaker 3>hope that the people listening to the Colt Conspiracy are

948
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 3>all learning something along the way, you know, me and

949
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:48.320
<v Speaker 3>them are.

950
00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:50.079
<v Speaker 5>Learning together about molasses.

951
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:52.800
<v Speaker 3>But again, that was what I was gonna say, is

952
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:56.199
<v Speaker 3>I love the smell of it. I hated fucking with

953
00:51:56.320 --> 00:52:00.440
<v Speaker 3>it because it is so sticky and it's solidified and

954
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:03.960
<v Speaker 3>it's oh my god, that was the worst. Oh, especially

955
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.000
<v Speaker 3>with my beard and my long hair. If I had

956
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:07.519
<v Speaker 3>to work on something and something sprayed me.

957
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.440
<v Speaker 5>Like, I'm I fucking smell really weird a lot.

958
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:13.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm just saying like, if I'm get sprayed with molasses,

959
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:16.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm going home, dude, Like, I'm not gonna sit here

960
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:19.440
<v Speaker 3>and let this shit just congeal and solidify. Now, I

961
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.000
<v Speaker 3>gotta go home and break a molasses chunk out of

962
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:24.639
<v Speaker 3>my beard in the shower later. Fuck off. So like anyway,

963
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:28.519
<v Speaker 3>it was so many fun memories and so many knots

964
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:29.960
<v Speaker 3>of fun. But that's how it is when you have

965
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:34.159
<v Speaker 3>an industrial job, I suppose anyway. The next one is

966
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:38.639
<v Speaker 3>imani or faith to believe with all our hearts in

967
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:42.119
<v Speaker 3>our people and the righteousness and victory of our struggle.

968
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.000
<v Speaker 3>I like it. The song for reflection is keep your

969
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:49.599
<v Speaker 3>Head to the Sky by the ever great Earth, Wind

970
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:50.000
<v Speaker 3>and Fire.

971
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:53.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh queen like the entire article to be pumped about this.

972
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:58.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's a great song. For the record. The

973
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:02.199
<v Speaker 3>thought for the Day is a poem for for My

974
00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:08.000
<v Speaker 3>People by Margaret Walker. And today's recipes should include spicy vinegar.

975
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 3>I have never heard of spicy vinegar.

976
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:14.639
<v Speaker 5>Neither have I. But I'm actually very surprised that my

977
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:17.920
<v Speaker 5>Angelou isn't one of the people that they mentioned in

978
00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:22.519
<v Speaker 5>this all her story is I don't know if people

979
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:27.119
<v Speaker 5>have actually looked into her entire story. Her story is insane, honestly,

980
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.840
<v Speaker 5>how she came about, everything that happened to her, how

981
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:33.840
<v Speaker 5>she even became a poet, and how she even became

982
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:38.159
<v Speaker 5>a writer. Just the entire thing start to finish was

983
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:41.639
<v Speaker 5>just crazy. What she went through. I agree, and that's

984
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:45.639
<v Speaker 5>I actually really love my Angelou, But the I forget

985
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:49.199
<v Speaker 5>how or why I ended up looking into her entire background.

986
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:51.039
<v Speaker 5>I think my kid was doing a report on her

987
00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:53.519
<v Speaker 5>and we did a whole deep dive on her, and

988
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:55.679
<v Speaker 5>I didn't even know half of the stuff that she

989
00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:57.880
<v Speaker 5>went through, even to become the writer that she was.

990
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:02.079
<v Speaker 3>Well, she was, yeah, lot of a lot of licks

991
00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:04.840
<v Speaker 3>to get there, a very very hard ard we went through.

992
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:07.280
<v Speaker 5>She went through a lot of shit. She is one

993
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:11.599
<v Speaker 5>tough cookie. And also she did a lot of crazy stuff,

994
00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:15.280
<v Speaker 5>like all around the world. She was a singer. She

995
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:19.239
<v Speaker 5>did she performed all over the place. She had an

996
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:20.440
<v Speaker 5>insane background.

997
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 3>She had a very uh, I don't want to say

998
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.840
<v Speaker 3>iconic voice, but it definitely stood out from a crowd.

999
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:26.800
<v Speaker 3>So to hear that she was doing singing. I was like,

1000
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:28.400
<v Speaker 3>you know what, I could see it.

1001
00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:32.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, like her background and singing was she traveled

1002
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:37.159
<v Speaker 5>all over Europe and did that and she I forget.

1003
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to like misspeak because it's been a

1004
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:41.519
<v Speaker 5>while since I read it, so, but just looking to

1005
00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:44.239
<v Speaker 5>her background of what happened to her as a child

1006
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:47.679
<v Speaker 5>and when she lived and then when she decided to

1007
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:51.320
<v Speaker 5>move she moved into the city, and what happened then,

1008
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:53.719
<v Speaker 5>and then how she ended up faking her papers to

1009
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:56.199
<v Speaker 5>be able to work, and then all this. There's a

1010
00:54:56.280 --> 00:54:58.599
<v Speaker 5>lot of stuff that happened to her. She went through

1011
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:02.360
<v Speaker 5>a lot of shit, and it definitely reflected in her writing.

1012
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:04.239
<v Speaker 5>And I just loved a lot of her stuff, to

1013
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:04.719
<v Speaker 5>be honest with.

1014
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:07.639
<v Speaker 3>You, agreed. And that's also why I have a real

1015
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:12.320
<v Speaker 3>hard time hearing people whine about the situations that they

1016
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:16.960
<v Speaker 3>find themselves in. I'm just saying, and this isn't even

1017
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:19.440
<v Speaker 3>towards any community or anything like that. When you hear

1018
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:23.159
<v Speaker 3>these stories of people that truly suffered and truly like

1019
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:28.679
<v Speaker 3>persevered and pushed through and became these cultural icons and

1020
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:31.480
<v Speaker 3>worth millions and millions and all these things, and you

1021
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:33.880
<v Speaker 3>see where they came from. And it's like, and I'm

1022
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:36.840
<v Speaker 3>sorry you're bitching because because why now what you got

1023
00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:37.159
<v Speaker 3>going on?

1024
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:42.280
<v Speaker 5>It's it's I mean, that's but everybody deals with trauma differently. Yeah,

1025
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:47.199
<v Speaker 5>what it deals with circumstances differently. How you're raised your

1026
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:50.920
<v Speaker 5>own you know how you handle emotions. If you are

1027
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 5>raised with people that don't know how to handle emotions,

1028
00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:57.280
<v Speaker 5>then you don't learn how to emotionally regulate yourself. And

1029
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:01.119
<v Speaker 5>it depends on the situations. I mean, every person, five

1030
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:02.960
<v Speaker 5>people could be in the same room and it all

1031
00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:05.480
<v Speaker 5>experienced the same traumatic event, and every single one of

1032
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:07.760
<v Speaker 5>them is going to compartmentalize and handle it and have

1033
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:12.599
<v Speaker 5>PTSD or whatever from that same traumatic event, completely different

1034
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:16.320
<v Speaker 5>to the other four people. So I don't want to

1035
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:18.840
<v Speaker 5>take away from people's experiences, you know, I think that

1036
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:22.639
<v Speaker 5>there is a lot of the older generation that seems

1037
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:25.400
<v Speaker 5>to have endured so much more.

1038
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:29.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah and Putt Yeah.

1039
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.679
<v Speaker 5>I think they just had a grit to not give up.

1040
00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:35.440
<v Speaker 5>And her story is one of those. Just even listening

1041
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:38.320
<v Speaker 5>to her first twelve years of life. Yeah, and she

1042
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:42.000
<v Speaker 5>actually put I think it's her stepfather, her father. Oh,

1043
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:45.920
<v Speaker 5>I can't I don't want to misspeak and that somebody

1044
00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:50.039
<v Speaker 5>one or the other one of the two sexually assaulted

1045
00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:51.840
<v Speaker 5>her and she actually spoke up I think at the

1046
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:55.159
<v Speaker 5>age of eight twelve, eight to yeah, somewhere around there.

1047
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:57.960
<v Speaker 5>I and she she did a lot, a lot of

1048
00:56:58.000 --> 00:56:59.960
<v Speaker 5>things happened to her. Not just that, but she would

1049
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:02.880
<v Speaker 5>tormented in her town because she was one of a

1050
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:05.159
<v Speaker 5>handful of black people, if not like one of like

1051
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:07.800
<v Speaker 5>a three or four. They own like a little gas station.

1052
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:11.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah and yeah, she went through a lot of things.

1053
00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:15.400
<v Speaker 5>So and then there's an interview you can watch about

1054
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:18.000
<v Speaker 5>her going back. They actually take her back to the

1055
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:20.920
<v Speaker 5>town where she originally was from, and she hadn't been

1056
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:23.400
<v Speaker 5>back in a long time. It was an interesting to

1057
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:27.679
<v Speaker 5>watch somebody because she was all recording what she was

1058
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:29.840
<v Speaker 5>really going through, step by step as she's seeing all

1059
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:32.639
<v Speaker 5>of these things and talking with them through this is

1060
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:35.000
<v Speaker 5>where I was beat up, this is where like these

1061
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:37.719
<v Speaker 5>boys attacked me, this is what happened to me here,

1062
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:39.800
<v Speaker 5>and stuff like that. And then you look at her

1063
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:42.760
<v Speaker 5>writing and what she did for the African American community,

1064
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:46.719
<v Speaker 5>and it's just like she's just such a pioneer I

1065
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:51.519
<v Speaker 5>think overall in for women in general, but also for

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00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:52.519
<v Speaker 5>the Black community.

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00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:55.519
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely and agreed. I don't know why none of her

1068
00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:57.880
<v Speaker 3>writing is a part of the reflections of Kwanza.

1069
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:00.320
<v Speaker 5>But again I would think she, honestly it would be

1070
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:03.440
<v Speaker 5>one of the biggest people in this because of everything

1071
00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:05.440
<v Speaker 5>that she went through. But hey, I have no idea

1072
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.599
<v Speaker 5>who's making who's adding this in and stud But overall

1073
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:12.920
<v Speaker 5>it looks like just a fun celebration. It it looks

1074
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:13.880
<v Speaker 5>super awesome.

1075
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:18.320
<v Speaker 3>And again, like we said, maybe this does adjust in time. Right,

1076
00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Maybe every year they come out with different reflections and

1077
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:24.079
<v Speaker 3>they posted on to the media's and the things. Maybe

1078
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:26.840
<v Speaker 3>some of these things are exactly as they always have been.

1079
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:29.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I couldn't really find anything on that.

1080
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:32.559
<v Speaker 3>All right, So now we are going to go to

1081
00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:35.519
<v Speaker 3>history dot Com from the History Channel to learn a

1082
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:39.280
<v Speaker 3>little bit more about Kwanza. All right. So, doctor Milana Karenga,

1083
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:42.760
<v Speaker 3>professor and Chairman of Black Studies at California State University,

1084
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Long Beach, created Kwansa in nineteen sixty six. After the

1085
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Watts riots in Los Angeles, Doctor Karenga searched for ways

1086
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:53.000
<v Speaker 3>to bring the African Americans together as a community. He

1087
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:57.320
<v Speaker 3>founded You Are Us, a cultural organization and started to

1088
00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:03.280
<v Speaker 3>research African first fruit harvest celebrations. Korenga combined aspects of

1089
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:07.400
<v Speaker 3>several different harvest celebrations, such as those of the Ashanti

1090
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:10.280
<v Speaker 3>and those of the Zulu, to form the basis of

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00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:13.719
<v Speaker 3>the week long holiday. Kwanza twenty twenty four, which that's

1092
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:17.400
<v Speaker 3>when this article was listed, begins on Thursday, December twenty

1093
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:20.360
<v Speaker 3>sixth and will last through Wednesday, January first, or of

1094
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:23.840
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five, So that was posted last year. But anyway,

1095
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:26.519
<v Speaker 3>like we said earlier, the name Kwanza is derived from

1096
00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:30.280
<v Speaker 3>the phrase matunda Yakwanza, which means first fruits in Swahili.

1097
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:34.159
<v Speaker 3>Each family celebrates Kwanza in its own way, but celebrations

1098
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:39.639
<v Speaker 3>often include songs and dances, African drums, storytelling, poetry reading,

1099
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:42.960
<v Speaker 3>and a large traditional meal. On each of the seven nights,

1100
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:45.280
<v Speaker 3>the family gathers and a child lights one of the

1101
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:48.559
<v Speaker 3>candles on the kenaro, which is the candle holder. Then

1102
00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:52.239
<v Speaker 3>one of the seven principles is discussed. The principles called

1103
00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Naguzo Saba seven principles are values of African culture which

1104
00:59:57.440 --> 01:00:01.760
<v Speaker 3>contribute to building and reinforcing community among African Americans. Like

1105
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:04.639
<v Speaker 3>we talked about. It also has seven basic symbols which

1106
01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:08.480
<v Speaker 3>represent the values and concepts reflective of African culture. An

1107
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:12.679
<v Speaker 3>African feast called a Kamaru or Karamu rather is hailed

1108
01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:17.000
<v Speaker 3>on December thirty first, so the night before the final day,

1109
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:19.679
<v Speaker 3>there's a massive feast that takes place.

1110
01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:21.079
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah.

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01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:24.880
<v Speaker 3>The candle lighting ceremony each evening provides the opportunity to

1112
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:28.239
<v Speaker 3>gather and discuss the meaning of Kwanza. The first night,

1113
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:31.039
<v Speaker 3>the black candle in the center is lit, which is

1114
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:35.519
<v Speaker 3>to represent the black community or the people itself, and

1115
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:39.360
<v Speaker 3>the principle of umoja or unity is discussed. One candle

1116
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:42.599
<v Speaker 3>is lit each evening and the appropriate principle is discussed.

1117
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.880
<v Speaker 3>So we already talked about the seven principles. And you know,

1118
01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:48.039
<v Speaker 3>as a matter of fact, here's how you pronounce that word,

1119
01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:54.239
<v Speaker 3>since people want to come as ji chagu li yahkuji

1120
01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:59.760
<v Speaker 3>kuji chaguliya, kuji chaguliyah. Okay, I did say it right.

1121
01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:02.199
<v Speaker 3>One of those times I gave like eight pronunciations. I'm

1122
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:03.360
<v Speaker 3>sure one of those is accurate.

1123
01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:07.280
<v Speaker 5>Hell yeah, oh man, So is it an order in

1124
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:09.360
<v Speaker 5>which they have to because three of them are red,

1125
01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:10.360
<v Speaker 5>three of them are green.

1126
01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:13.159
<v Speaker 3>Ye, so is it like back and forth?

1127
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:16.039
<v Speaker 5>Is it like all three on then all green? Like

1128
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:16.760
<v Speaker 5>how does it go?

1129
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:21.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't actually know, I'm gonna be honest, although all

1130
01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:24.599
<v Speaker 3>the iconographies that I've seen of them are either all

1131
01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:27.039
<v Speaker 3>of them lit or like the three reds and the

1132
01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:31.039
<v Speaker 3>black in the middle, So I think it goes black first, red, red, red, green,

1133
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:34.880
<v Speaker 3>green green. But earlier we saw one of these candilabras

1134
01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:36.960
<v Speaker 3>and the they were kind of stagger pattern.

1135
01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:38.960
<v Speaker 5>So I don't actually know that I saw they were

1136
01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:41.800
<v Speaker 5>like they were. It was like red green, red green

1137
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:42.480
<v Speaker 5>kind of a thing.

1138
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:44.519
<v Speaker 3>I do know that the black one is lit the

1139
01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:46.440
<v Speaker 3>first night, and that is like for sure the way

1140
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:47.559
<v Speaker 3>that goes down, and.

1141
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:49.239
<v Speaker 5>That was for sure in the middle.

1142
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:52.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I'm but that same candilabry where was staggered,

1143
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:53.880
<v Speaker 3>the black one was on the far end.

1144
01:01:56.280 --> 01:01:58.280
<v Speaker 5>So I well, I mean the all the other ones

1145
01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:01.400
<v Speaker 5>that we saw in the in the little clip and

1146
01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:04.079
<v Speaker 5>the other photos were the black women is in the middle,

1147
01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:06.719
<v Speaker 5>which would make most sense to me it being in

1148
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:08.679
<v Speaker 5>the middle. But I'm just wondering if there's any like

1149
01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:11.719
<v Speaker 5>rules around it, or you know, is this is kind

1150
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:13.559
<v Speaker 5>of like you to decide with the way that you

1151
01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:13.920
<v Speaker 5>want to.

1152
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:17.159
<v Speaker 3>Do it, I honestly have no idea. But anyway, so

1153
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:20.199
<v Speaker 3>aside from our butchering of the pronunciations here, we did

1154
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:23.239
<v Speaker 3>already talk about the seven principles. Now let's go in

1155
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:28.519
<v Speaker 3>on these seven symbols. So Mazao, which means the crops,

1156
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:31.840
<v Speaker 3>which would be fruits and nuts and vegetables, symbolizes work

1157
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:34.920
<v Speaker 3>in the basis of the holiday. It represents the historical

1158
01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:37.840
<v Speaker 3>foundation of Kwanza, the gathering of the people that is

1159
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:43.159
<v Speaker 3>patent or patterned after African harvest festivals, in which joy, sharing, unity,

1160
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.599
<v Speaker 3>and thanksgiving are the fruits of collective planning and work.

1161
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Since the family is the basic social and economic center

1162
01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:54.960
<v Speaker 3>of every civilization, the celebration bonded family members, reaffirming their

1163
01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:58.239
<v Speaker 3>commitment and responsibility to each other. In Africa, the family

1164
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:02.199
<v Speaker 3>may have included several generations of two or more nuclear families,

1165
01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:06.320
<v Speaker 3>as well as distant relatives. When it says nuclear families,

1166
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:08.360
<v Speaker 3>keep in mind, depending on which section of Africa you're

1167
01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:10.239
<v Speaker 3>talking about, that can mean a lot of different things.

1168
01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:14.000
<v Speaker 3>But neither here nor there. Ancient Africans didn't care how

1169
01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:16.519
<v Speaker 3>large the family was, but there was only one leader,

1170
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:19.639
<v Speaker 3>the oldest male of the strongest group. For this reason,

1171
01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:23.559
<v Speaker 3>an entire village may have been composed of one family. Again,

1172
01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:27.119
<v Speaker 3>that very much varies tribe to tribe. Because there are

1173
01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:30.880
<v Speaker 3>some matriarchal tribes in Africa. We should throw that out.

1174
01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:34.119
<v Speaker 3>But per Kwanza, this is how they do it, so anyway,

1175
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:38.880
<v Speaker 3>But there was only one leader, the oldest male of

1176
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:41.039
<v Speaker 3>the strongest group. For this reason, the entire village may

1177
01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:43.920
<v Speaker 3>have been composed of one family. The family was a

1178
01:03:44.119 --> 01:03:47.360
<v Speaker 3>limb of a tribe that shared common customs, cultural traditions,

1179
01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:52.119
<v Speaker 3>and political unity, and were supposedly descendant from a common ancestor.

1180
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:55.559
<v Speaker 3>The tribe lived by traditions that provide a community or

1181
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:59.880
<v Speaker 3>continuity and identity. Tribal laws often determine the value system

1182
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:05.880
<v Speaker 3>laws and customs encompassing birth, adolescents, marriage, parenthood, maturity, and death,

1183
01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:11.000
<v Speaker 3>though are through personal sacrifice and hard work. The farmers

1184
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:14.159
<v Speaker 3>sowed seeds that brought forth new plant life to feed

1185
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:17.239
<v Speaker 3>the people and other animals of the earth to demonstrate

1186
01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:21.199
<v Speaker 3>their Maysao celebrants of quans of place, nuts, fruits and

1187
01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:26.480
<v Speaker 3>vegetables representing work on the macheka. Speaking of the mcheka,

1188
01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:29.920
<v Speaker 3>this is what they call the place matt Okay, and

1189
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:34.079
<v Speaker 3>it's typically a woven tapestry that is of the black

1190
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:39.159
<v Speaker 3>red or black red and green colors. So moving on here,

1191
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:43.079
<v Speaker 3>the macheka made from straw or cloth comes directly from

1192
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:47.199
<v Speaker 3>Africa and expresses history, culture and tradition. And we've talked

1193
01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:49.639
<v Speaker 3>about that too, Raven Lee. As far as from an

1194
01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:56.199
<v Speaker 3>anthropology standpoint, tapestries and how certain cloths are woven has

1195
01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:58.360
<v Speaker 3>a lot to say about the culture from which they

1196
01:04:58.440 --> 01:04:58.800
<v Speaker 3>come from.

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01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:03.400
<v Speaker 5>Correct, Yeah, Yeah, it's one of those things of what

1198
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:07.039
<v Speaker 5>they how they weave it, what types of materials they use,

1199
01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:10.960
<v Speaker 5>how they tell their stories in it, and even how

1200
01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:14.719
<v Speaker 5>the women spin the depends on like what they're they're using,

1201
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:18.039
<v Speaker 5>but say spin spoons to silk, like you have the

1202
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:20.719
<v Speaker 5>whole silk trade and everything like that. But there's a

1203
01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:24.360
<v Speaker 5>whole method and tradition about how they do it, and

1204
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:28.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, how they make some of the material in

1205
01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:31.800
<v Speaker 5>and of itself, Like way back in the day was

1206
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:35.519
<v Speaker 5>like the women using their piss to actually help break

1207
01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:37.719
<v Speaker 5>it down and said, there's a whole tradition of how

1208
01:05:37.760 --> 01:05:41.559
<v Speaker 5>to like work it into the into the fibers and

1209
01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:46.800
<v Speaker 5>things to be able to create the tapestries or any

1210
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:49.400
<v Speaker 5>of you know, like kilts or things like that. That way,

1211
01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:53.559
<v Speaker 5>there's a whole like backstory to a lot of different

1212
01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:58.119
<v Speaker 5>types of tapestries and different types of clothing material and

1213
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:01.159
<v Speaker 5>cloth and things like this, and so that it holds

1214
01:06:01.159 --> 01:06:03.280
<v Speaker 5>a lot of significant meaning in many cultures.

1215
01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:08.239
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, so continuing on here, it symbolizes the historical and

1216
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:11.480
<v Speaker 3>traditional foundation for us to stand on and build our lives,

1217
01:06:11.559 --> 01:06:15.199
<v Speaker 3>because today stands on our yesterdays, just as the other

1218
01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:19.519
<v Speaker 3>symbols stands on the macheka. In nineteen sixty five, James

1219
01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Baldwin wrote quote for history is not merely something to

1220
01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:25.719
<v Speaker 3>be read, and it does not refer merely or even

1221
01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:29.280
<v Speaker 3>principally to the past. On the contrary, the great force

1222
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:31.719
<v Speaker 3>of history comes from the facts that we carry it

1223
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:35.960
<v Speaker 3>within us are consciously controlled by it in many ways,

1224
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:38.960
<v Speaker 3>and history is literally present in all that we do.

1225
01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:42.599
<v Speaker 3>It could scarcely be otherwise, since it is to history

1226
01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:45.719
<v Speaker 3>that we owe our frames of reference, our identities, and

1227
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:51.000
<v Speaker 3>our aspirations. End quote. During Kwansa, we study, recall, and

1228
01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:53.719
<v Speaker 3>reflect on our history and the role we are to

1229
01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:57.199
<v Speaker 3>play as a legacy to the future. Ancient societies made

1230
01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:02.159
<v Speaker 3>mats from straw or dried seams of rains sewed and reaped. Collectively,

1231
01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:05.639
<v Speaker 3>the weavers took the stalks and created household baskets and mets.

1232
01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:09.599
<v Speaker 3>Today we buy makeeka that are made from kintake cloth,

1233
01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:13.519
<v Speaker 3>African mudcloth, and other textiles from various areas of the

1234
01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:19.440
<v Speaker 3>African continent. The mishuma, I think that's how you pronounce mishuma, saba,

1235
01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:26.960
<v Speaker 3>the vibunzi, the mazeo, the kawate, the kikombi, chau mojo,

1236
01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:32.039
<v Speaker 3>and the knara are placed directly on the makeka. So

1237
01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:35.000
<v Speaker 3>everything that I just listed that I tried to get

1238
01:07:35.039 --> 01:07:38.360
<v Speaker 3>the pronunciations right on. Those are those things. That's the candles,

1239
01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:42.039
<v Speaker 3>the candelabra, the corn, the cup, all these things. So

1240
01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:44.920
<v Speaker 3>we're going down that list now. But all of these items,

1241
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:48.760
<v Speaker 3>these seven critical pieces, are all put on this mat,

1242
01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:50.559
<v Speaker 3>which is a piece in and of itself.

1243
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:55.239
<v Speaker 5>Okay, there is actually quite a few places to be

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<v Speaker 5>able to buy authentic things that were made in after

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<v Speaker 5>Africa that actually help a lot of the people. There's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of mission groups just it depends on what

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01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:07.519
<v Speaker 5>they are, but there's a lot of groups that you're

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01:08:07.559 --> 01:08:10.480
<v Speaker 5>able to buy from that the profits go directly to

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<v Speaker 5>the people. I actually own several bowls that were hand woven.

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01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:18.039
<v Speaker 5>I own a couple bags that were created. Some jewelry

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01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:22.399
<v Speaker 5>as well that went directly to these women that were struggling,

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01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:25.039
<v Speaker 5>that had large families and stuff, or there's something happened

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01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:27.600
<v Speaker 5>to their husbands and it was it's a part of

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01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:33.279
<v Speaker 5>the women's run missionary organization and stuff, and that's one

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01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:35.199
<v Speaker 5>way to help a lot of African people. They have

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of different types of organizations and being able

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01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:42.960
<v Speaker 5>to buy this stuff directly from them instead of buying

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01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:45.680
<v Speaker 5>a third party or you know, created in China and

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01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:48.880
<v Speaker 5>slapped a label on it saying, hey, this is authentic

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<v Speaker 5>when it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say, if you're going to buy something from

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01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Africa directly, do your research and make sure that you're

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<v Speaker 3>not buying it from an African version of a sweatshop,

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<v Speaker 3>because that absolutely does take place as well. But there are,

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<v Speaker 3>to Ravenlee's point, real organizations that are out there to

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<v Speaker 3>put this money where it actually belongs, rather than into

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01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:10.479
<v Speaker 3>the pocket of the quote unquote nonprofit that's paying their

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01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:13.119
<v Speaker 3>workers actual pennies. It's a mess.

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<v Speaker 5>There's actually some people on social media too that you

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01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:22.199
<v Speaker 5>can find that have real organizations that are from there,

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01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:25.560
<v Speaker 5>that live there and that do support the one woman

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<v Speaker 5>that has the orphanage where she has my god, I

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01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:33.760
<v Speaker 5>think it's like sixty people, sixty children pretty much. I

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<v Speaker 5>mean it's girls like twenty one and under that she supports.

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<v Speaker 5>She was also a child bride and was raped and

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01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:42.880
<v Speaker 5>had all this different stuff happen to her, and she

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01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:46.239
<v Speaker 5>ended up having several kids of her own. Her entire

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01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:50.520
<v Speaker 5>story is insane, Like she has an entire village she's

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01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:54.640
<v Speaker 5>pretty much created just for women refugees, but it's actually

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<v Speaker 5>mainly children. To be honest with you, I mean, I

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01:09:57.079 --> 01:10:00.640
<v Speaker 5>consider a sixteen year old still a child. But she's

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01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:02.520
<v Speaker 5>one of those people. And they create a ton of

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01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:05.760
<v Speaker 5>textiles and different things like that that people are able

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01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:07.560
<v Speaker 5>to buy from. So if people are looking for a

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01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:10.359
<v Speaker 5>way to help at least children or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 5>I suggest going and do your due diligence and research.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. Next on the table on the mat would be

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<v Speaker 3>the the Bunzi ear of corn corn and this put

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01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:28.720
<v Speaker 3>a pin in for later y'all, just so we're clear.

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<v Speaker 3>The stalk of corn represents fertility and symbolizes that through

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01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:35.479
<v Speaker 3>the reproduction of children, the future hopes of the family

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01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:38.520
<v Speaker 3>are brought to life. One ear is called abunzi and

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01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:42.239
<v Speaker 3>two or more ears is called mahindi. Each ear symbolizes

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<v Speaker 3>a child in the family, and thus one ear is

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<v Speaker 3>placed on the makeka for each child in the family.

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<v Speaker 3>If there are no children in the home, two ears

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<v Speaker 3>are still set on the makeeka. Because each person is

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<v Speaker 3>responsible for the children of the community. During Kwanzam, we

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<v Speaker 3>take the love and nurturance that was heaped on us

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<v Speaker 3>as children and selflessly return it to all children, especially

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01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:08.920
<v Speaker 3>the helpless, homeless, loveless ones in our community. Thus, the

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<v Speaker 3>Nigerian proverb it takes a whole village to raise a

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01:11:11.800 --> 01:11:15.399
<v Speaker 3>child is realized in this symbol, since raising a child

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01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:18.479
<v Speaker 3>in Africa was a community affair involving the tribal village

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01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:21.920
<v Speaker 3>as well as the family. Good habits of respect for

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<v Speaker 3>self and others, discipline, positive thinking, expectations, compassion, empathy, charity,

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01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:31.079
<v Speaker 3>and self direction are learned in childhood from parents, from peers,

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01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:34.520
<v Speaker 3>and from experiences. Children are essential to Kwanzam for they

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01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:37.199
<v Speaker 3>are the future, the seed bearers that will carry cultural

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01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:40.359
<v Speaker 3>values and practices into the next generation. For this reason,

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01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:44.439
<v Speaker 3>children are cared for communally and individually within a tribe,

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01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:48.359
<v Speaker 3>a tribal village. The biological family was ultimately responsible for

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01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:50.840
<v Speaker 3>raising its own children, but every person in the village

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01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:55.199
<v Speaker 3>was responsible for the safety and welfare of all the children. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I like that a lot, and that's interesting to use corn,

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<v Speaker 5>though I wouldn't have thought that that is inherent to fertility.

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<v Speaker 3>Not just to fertility, but to Africa. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>start poking holes in that.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to get into it, but I'm just specifically fertility.

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01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:19.000
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't think that's not the first yeah vegetable that

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01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:22.640
<v Speaker 5>I would think that is out of pocket for fertility.

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01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:27.560
<v Speaker 5>Just I thought that was an interesting choice for that representation.

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01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:29.960
<v Speaker 5>But I do actually like the entire thing that they

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01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:32.840
<v Speaker 5>talked about because it does take a whole village to

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01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:37.319
<v Speaker 5>raise child, well, it should take a village, and that's

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01:12:37.359 --> 01:12:41.680
<v Speaker 5>where I think Americans are going really off the beaten path,

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01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:46.359
<v Speaker 5>awry from what it takes to actually be fulfilling the

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01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:47.399
<v Speaker 5>children's needs.

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<v Speaker 3>So I agree, and yeah, it's it's just it's the

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<v Speaker 3>symbol itself and what it represents. I do like corn

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01:12:55.359 --> 01:12:57.239
<v Speaker 3>would not have been a choice that I made if

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01:12:57.319 --> 01:13:00.840
<v Speaker 3>it's an African American holiday, but again put a pin

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<v Speaker 3>in it. We're gonna talk about it here in a

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01:13:02.359 --> 01:13:07.520
<v Speaker 3>bit anyway, Okay. Masumba or Mashumah Saba the seven candles,

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<v Speaker 3>and we talked about this earlier here. The candles are

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<v Speaker 3>ceremonial objects with two primary purposes to recreate symbolically, the

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01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:16.960
<v Speaker 3>sun's power and to provide light. The celebration of fire

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01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:19.359
<v Speaker 3>through the candle burning is not limited to one particular

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01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:23.640
<v Speaker 3>group or country. It occurs everywhere. Masuma Saba are seven candles,

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01:13:23.680 --> 01:13:26.560
<v Speaker 3>three red, three green, one black. The black candle symbolizes

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01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:29.359
<v Speaker 3>the unity, the basis of the success, and is lit

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01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:32.119
<v Speaker 3>on December twenty sixth, the first night. The three green

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01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:37.000
<v Speaker 3>candles representing Nia, Ujima and Imani are placed to the

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01:13:37.279 --> 01:13:40.880
<v Speaker 3>on the or Yeah placed to the right of Emoja candle. Okay,

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01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:44.479
<v Speaker 3>so there is an order of precedence order. Yeah, Okay,

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01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:47.720
<v Speaker 3>we learn it together, good cult members, while the three

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<v Speaker 3>red candles representing Kuji, Chakuliyah, Yeah, Ujama and Kumba are

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01:13:53.840 --> 01:13:57.800
<v Speaker 3>placed on the left of it during Kwanza. During Kwanza,

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01:13:58.279 --> 01:14:00.359
<v Speaker 3>I think it's supposed to be one candle represents one

1351
01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:03.479
<v Speaker 3>principle is lit each day, then the other candles are

1352
01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:06.359
<v Speaker 3>relt to give off more light and vision. The number

1353
01:14:06.399 --> 01:14:10.039
<v Speaker 3>of candles burning also indicate the principle that is being celebrated.

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01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:13.239
<v Speaker 3>The illuminating fire of the candles is a basic element

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01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:16.960
<v Speaker 3>of the universe, and every celebration and festival includes fire

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01:14:17.079 --> 01:14:20.359
<v Speaker 3>in some form. It's very true. Fire's mystique, like the sun,

1357
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:24.239
<v Speaker 3>is irresistible and can destroy or create with its mesmerizing, frightening,

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01:14:24.439 --> 01:14:29.399
<v Speaker 3>mystifying power. Mishu Masaba symbolics. Colors are from the red,

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01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:33.439
<v Speaker 3>black and green flag Bendhara created by Marcus Carvey. The

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01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:37.359
<v Speaker 3>colors also represent African gods. Red is the color of Shango,

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01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:40.439
<v Speaker 3>the Euroba god of fire, thunder and lightning, who lives

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01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:42.800
<v Speaker 3>in the clouds and sends down his thunderbolt whenever he

1363
01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:46.239
<v Speaker 3>is angry or offended. It also represents the struggle for

1364
01:14:46.279 --> 01:14:50.079
<v Speaker 3>self determination and freedom by people of color. Black is

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01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:53.520
<v Speaker 3>the people the earth, the source of life, representing hope, creativity,

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01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:58.039
<v Speaker 3>and faith, and denoting messages than the opening and closing

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01:14:58.079 --> 01:15:01.840
<v Speaker 3>of the doors. Green, since the earth that sustains our

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01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:06.239
<v Speaker 3>lives and provides hope, divination, employment, and the fruits of

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01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:08.520
<v Speaker 3>the harvest. So there we go.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So as long as they have the candles, doesn't

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01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:14.680
<v Speaker 5>matter what order they burn it in, as long as

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01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:18.880
<v Speaker 5>it's the amount of burning candles for which principle I

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01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:19.279
<v Speaker 5>think so.

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<v Speaker 3>But it did say that there was this on this

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01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:24.039
<v Speaker 3>side and this on the other side, So yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So, I mean, it just seems to me, I think

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01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:29.760
<v Speaker 5>they're going to burn one side then the other. But

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01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:32.319
<v Speaker 5>I guess maybe to each their own.

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01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:34.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe they go left right, maybe they stagger it.

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01:15:35.479 --> 01:15:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, you know. All right, So next canara,

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01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:42.720
<v Speaker 3>which is the candle holder itself, the candelabra, if you will.

1382
01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:45.319
<v Speaker 3>The canar is the center of the Kwanza setting and

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01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:48.840
<v Speaker 3>represents the original stalk from which we came our ancestry.

1384
01:15:49.159 --> 01:15:53.039
<v Speaker 3>The canar can be can be shaped straight lines, semicircles,

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01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:55.960
<v Speaker 3>or spirals. You know, a spiral worm will look pretty dope.

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01:15:56.239 --> 01:15:58.960
<v Speaker 3>As long as these seven candles are separate and distinct

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01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:02.960
<v Speaker 3>like a candlelabra. Canaras are made from all kinds of materials,

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01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:06.520
<v Speaker 3>and many celebrants create their own from fallen branches, wood,

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01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:10.640
<v Speaker 3>or other natural materials. The kannara symbolize the ancestors who

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01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:13.920
<v Speaker 3>were once earthbound, understand the problems of human life and

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01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:17.239
<v Speaker 3>are willing to protect their progeny from danger, evil and

1392
01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:21.239
<v Speaker 3>mistakes or progeny, I should say. In African festivals, the

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01:16:21.319 --> 01:16:25.039
<v Speaker 3>ancestors are remembered and honored. The mishu masaba are placed

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01:16:25.199 --> 01:16:29.239
<v Speaker 3>in the canara. Okay, now we get to the Unity Cup,

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01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:35.439
<v Speaker 3>the Kikombe che Umaja Unity Cup, the Kacombe che Umaja,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the last time I'm going to say from

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01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:39.319
<v Speaker 3>this point or I'm just gonna call it. Unity Cup

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01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:41.600
<v Speaker 3>is a special cup that is used to perform the

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01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:47.760
<v Speaker 3>libation or tombiko ritual during the Cokaramu feast on the

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01:16:47.880 --> 01:16:52.079
<v Speaker 3>sixth day of Kwanza. In many African societies, libation are

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01:16:52.239 --> 01:16:55.399
<v Speaker 3>poured for the living dead, whose souls stay with the

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01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:59.520
<v Speaker 3>earth they tilled. The Ebo of Nigeria believe that the

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01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:03.199
<v Speaker 3>drink that to drink the last portion of a libation

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01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:07.359
<v Speaker 3>is to invite the wrath of the spirits and the ancestors. Consequently,

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01:17:07.520 --> 01:17:10.159
<v Speaker 3>the last part of the libation belongs to the ancestors.

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01:17:10.640 --> 01:17:15.000
<v Speaker 3>During the Kamaru feasts or Karamu feast, the Unit cup

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01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:17.840
<v Speaker 3>is passed to family members and guests who drink from

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01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:21.600
<v Speaker 3>it to promote unity. Then the eldest person presents present

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01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:25.399
<v Speaker 3>poors the libation, usually water, juice, or wine, in the

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01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:28.920
<v Speaker 3>direction of the four winds north, south, east, and west

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01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:32.680
<v Speaker 3>to honor the ancestors. The eldest asks the gods and

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01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:36.079
<v Speaker 3>ancestors to share in the festivities and in return to

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01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:38.680
<v Speaker 3>bless all the people who are not at the gathering.

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01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:41.800
<v Speaker 3>After asking for the blessing, the elder pours the libation

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01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:46.720
<v Speaker 3>on the ground and the group says Amen okay. Large

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01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:50.840
<v Speaker 3>quansa gatherings may operate just a communion service in most churches,

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01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:54.359
<v Speaker 3>for which it is common for celebrants to have individual

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01:17:54.439 --> 01:17:57.039
<v Speaker 3>cups and to drink the libation together as a sign

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01:17:57.079 --> 01:17:59.840
<v Speaker 3>of unity. Several families may have a cup that is

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01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:03.560
<v Speaker 3>specifically for the ancestors, and everyone else has his or

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01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:06.359
<v Speaker 3>her own, and the last few ounces of the libation

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01:18:06.520 --> 01:18:09.199
<v Speaker 3>are poured into the cup four of the hosts of

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01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:12.359
<v Speaker 3>hosts or hostess, who SIPs it and then hands it

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01:18:12.439 --> 01:18:14.640
<v Speaker 3>to the oldest person in the group, who asks for

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01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:16.800
<v Speaker 3>the blessing. Okay, so.

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<v Speaker 5>The only thing I thought about was one for the homies.

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<v Speaker 3>The same but I didn't want to say it because okay,

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01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:28.520
<v Speaker 3>with a Quansa celebration and that seems yeah a bit.

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01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:30.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, but I was just thinking about how, like,

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01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:33.760
<v Speaker 5>you know, everybody leaves that little bit in the bottom

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01:18:33.800 --> 01:18:36.279
<v Speaker 5>of the cup and like, you know, pour it out

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01:18:36.319 --> 01:18:37.960
<v Speaker 5>for one for the homies kind of thing, and I

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01:18:38.079 --> 01:18:39.840
<v Speaker 5>was like, fuck, I don't want to be that person.

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01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:42.920
<v Speaker 5>But like, also, are we all thinking when we were

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01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:45.560
<v Speaker 5>listening to that, because that's definitely what I thought about.

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<v Speaker 3>That is absolutely what I thought about when I was

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01:18:47.479 --> 01:18:50.720
<v Speaker 3>reading this. So basically, pouring one out for the homies

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01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:54.479
<v Speaker 3>doesn't only go back to just cultural things. That's a

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01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Quansa thing. So here we are, we've been celebrating Kwanza

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01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:00.439
<v Speaker 3>and we didn't even know it. I guess it's a joke.

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01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:04.199
<v Speaker 3>That's a joke, y'all, Calm down, calm down, But yeah,

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01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:06.199
<v Speaker 3>apparently you're supposed to pour some out to all the

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01:19:06.279 --> 01:19:08.960
<v Speaker 3>four wins. Then they all as they're talking about to

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01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:12.239
<v Speaker 3>the gods, then they say amen. Thought that was kind

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01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:15.439
<v Speaker 3>of interesting, but again, hey why not? Why not? You know,

1446
01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:20.640
<v Speaker 3>next is Zawati and this would be the gifts when

1447
01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:23.199
<v Speaker 3>we celebrate Amani on the seventh day of Kwanza, we

1448
01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:27.920
<v Speaker 3>give meaningful zawati, which is gifts to encourage growth, self determination,

1449
01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:32.039
<v Speaker 3>achievement and success. We exchange gifts with members of our

1450
01:19:32.079 --> 01:19:36.760
<v Speaker 3>immediate family, especially the children, to promote or reward accomplishments

1451
01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:40.720
<v Speaker 3>and commitments kept, as well as with our guests. Handmade

1452
01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:44.640
<v Speaker 3>gifts are encouraged to promote self determination, purpose and creativity

1453
01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:48.000
<v Speaker 3>and to avoid the chaos of shopping and conspicuous consumption

1454
01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:52.560
<v Speaker 3>during the December holiday season. Respect a family may spend

1455
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:57.039
<v Speaker 3>the year making kenaros a or may create cards, dolls,

1456
01:19:57.239 --> 01:20:00.840
<v Speaker 3>or makeekas to give to their guests. Accepting a gift

1457
01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:04.359
<v Speaker 3>implies a moral obligation to fulfill the promise of the gift.

1458
01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:07.840
<v Speaker 3>It obliges the recipient to follow the training of the host.

1459
01:20:08.359 --> 01:20:12.079
<v Speaker 3>The gift cements social relationships, allowing the receiver to share

1460
01:20:12.119 --> 01:20:15.000
<v Speaker 3>the duties and the rights of a family member. Accepting

1461
01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:17.520
<v Speaker 3>a gift makes the receiver part of the family and

1462
01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:21.520
<v Speaker 3>promotes umoja. So there we have. This is basically the

1463
01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:24.119
<v Speaker 3>over under of the kowanza.

1464
01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:27.000
<v Speaker 5>Which it came from a book. At the very end

1465
01:20:27.039 --> 01:20:30.000
<v Speaker 5>it said that it came from the actual book.

1466
01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:32.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is an excerpt from the book The Complete

1467
01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Quansa Celebration or Celebrating Our Cultural Harvest from copyright nineteen

1468
01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:40.319
<v Speaker 3>ninety five by Dorothy Wimbush Riley.

1469
01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:44.680
<v Speaker 5>That's interesting, so they added new stuff into it if

1470
01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:47.880
<v Speaker 5>it came if the majority came from the excerpt of

1471
01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:51.520
<v Speaker 5>nineteen ninety five, then they added in newer relevant stuff

1472
01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:55.880
<v Speaker 5>from twenty fifteen, twenty ten. So maybe it is shifting

1473
01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:57.119
<v Speaker 5>and changing with the culture.

1474
01:20:57.479 --> 01:21:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Nothing about this talked about recipes, talked about songs, talked

1475
01:21:01.039 --> 01:21:03.560
<v Speaker 3>about it, talked about how there was reading, and there

1476
01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:05.479
<v Speaker 3>was dances and songs and stuff, but it didn't give

1477
01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:09.920
<v Speaker 3>like specific songs to reflect on or excerption, specific authors

1478
01:21:09.960 --> 01:21:12.279
<v Speaker 3>and things like this. So it's very bay.

1479
01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:14.640
<v Speaker 5>This is the basis, Like, this is the basis of

1480
01:21:14.720 --> 01:21:17.720
<v Speaker 5>what they do, Like this is what we celebrate and

1481
01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:21.119
<v Speaker 5>how we celebrate. And then what we read earlier was

1482
01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:26.119
<v Speaker 5>the more modern interpretation of how to continuously grow it

1483
01:21:26.199 --> 01:21:28.319
<v Speaker 5>and keep it within the culture and shift it as

1484
01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:29.159
<v Speaker 5>time goes on.

1485
01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Very possibly could be it. So now we get to

1486
01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:39.960
<v Speaker 3>the darker side of Kwansa. All right, and I'm gonna

1487
01:21:39.960 --> 01:21:43.079
<v Speaker 3>say this, this was the nicer article that I could

1488
01:21:43.119 --> 01:21:47.880
<v Speaker 3>find to talk about this. The person who founded Kwanza.

1489
01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Although there was a lot of great things that this

1490
01:21:51.279 --> 01:21:57.000
<v Speaker 3>gentleman accomplished, there was some controversy surrounding him. I found

1491
01:21:57.039 --> 01:22:01.920
<v Speaker 3>an article from a HBC if anybody doesn't know, historically

1492
01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:08.199
<v Speaker 3>Black college who basically was shitting on Kwanza as being

1493
01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:11.159
<v Speaker 3>completely fake. He even pointed out the fact that why

1494
01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:14.279
<v Speaker 3>is corn on the altar? Corn is not even indigenous

1495
01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:17.039
<v Speaker 3>to Africa? Like why why would you have that on

1496
01:22:17.159 --> 01:22:21.119
<v Speaker 3>an African celebration thing like this? And like you had mentioned, Raven,

1497
01:22:21.159 --> 01:22:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand why corn is used as the fertility

1498
01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:27.079
<v Speaker 3>thing of all the things, Why wouldn't you choose eight

1499
01:22:27.199 --> 01:22:30.880
<v Speaker 3>like yams that is from Africa and you can find

1500
01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:32.600
<v Speaker 3>those in America and put it on that. I don't,

1501
01:22:33.079 --> 01:22:35.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't know.

1502
01:22:35.560 --> 01:22:39.239
<v Speaker 5>It just seemed like an odd to me. When I

1503
01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:41.960
<v Speaker 5>think of fertility, I don't think of corn. But you

1504
01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:43.119
<v Speaker 5>know that's just me.

1505
01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:46.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean corn was It's only indigenous to one spot

1506
01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:49.640
<v Speaker 3>on Earth, and that's North America, and I guess you

1507
01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:52.479
<v Speaker 3>could say South America too, but more specifically the Latin

1508
01:22:52.520 --> 01:22:57.439
<v Speaker 3>American section. I don't, I don't know why that is

1509
01:22:57.479 --> 01:23:00.119
<v Speaker 3>what's being used. But at the same time, it's not

1510
01:23:00.279 --> 01:23:03.279
<v Speaker 3>about the item itself. It is about what it symbolizes,

1511
01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:06.840
<v Speaker 3>and at that point, it could be any arbitrary thing

1512
01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:10.680
<v Speaker 3>that they decide to use for Kwansa to you know,

1513
01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:14.239
<v Speaker 3>be the identifying marker. So why not, corn, I guess

1514
01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:17.039
<v Speaker 3>it's whatever right now.

1515
01:23:17.079 --> 01:23:19.159
<v Speaker 5>Sure, pomegranates make more sense.

1516
01:23:19.239 --> 01:23:22.239
<v Speaker 3>But okay, you know, but that's that's a Greek thing

1517
01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:23.920
<v Speaker 3>that you're talking about right now. I know it's a

1518
01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:27.680
<v Speaker 3>great thing, and to some honey would have seemed like

1519
01:23:27.720 --> 01:23:33.199
<v Speaker 3>a much better option, right to some you know, wine,

1520
01:23:33.359 --> 01:23:34.039
<v Speaker 3>I who know.

1521
01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:35.319
<v Speaker 5>It's gonna say grapes.

1522
01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:40.279
<v Speaker 3>Grapes make a lot of sense. I don't know. I

1523
01:23:40.319 --> 01:23:42.439
<v Speaker 3>don't know why they decided to go with that, but

1524
01:23:42.640 --> 01:23:43.880
<v Speaker 3>that is what they decide to go with.

1525
01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:47.199
<v Speaker 5>There is a darker side to this, and hopefully this

1526
01:23:47.319 --> 01:23:51.600
<v Speaker 5>doesn't detract from the positive, says Kwanza. But also, you know,

1527
01:23:51.680 --> 01:23:55.479
<v Speaker 5>when we we are talking about celebrations, we are digging

1528
01:23:55.560 --> 01:23:58.880
<v Speaker 5>into all the different sides and how people are celebrating

1529
01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:01.439
<v Speaker 5>in the history of these things. So I hope this

1530
01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:04.880
<v Speaker 5>shedding light on this darker side that you're gonna tell

1531
01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:08.039
<v Speaker 5>us about isn't going to be taken poorly.

1532
01:24:08.159 --> 01:24:11.520
<v Speaker 3>By people. It shouldn't be because this is not Jacob's

1533
01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:15.520
<v Speaker 3>opinion and it shouldn't and nothing about what we're about

1534
01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:17.199
<v Speaker 3>to talk about should take away from all of the

1535
01:24:17.319 --> 01:24:20.560
<v Speaker 3>really cool things we just learned about Kwansa. Okay, that

1536
01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:26.000
<v Speaker 3>being said, keep in mind in nineteen sixty six, take

1537
01:24:26.399 --> 01:24:29.159
<v Speaker 3>a little mental walk about what was going on during

1538
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:32.680
<v Speaker 3>this timeframe. Right civil rights was going on, The Black

1539
01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:36.159
<v Speaker 3>Panther Party was being pushed heavily. And then your guy here,

1540
01:24:36.399 --> 01:24:41.560
<v Speaker 3>the good doctor that created Kwanza, He developed US, which

1541
01:24:41.800 --> 01:24:45.279
<v Speaker 3>was seen as the counterbalance to the Black Panther Party.

1542
01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:49.800
<v Speaker 3>One of them predominantly carried weapons, had a very They

1543
01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:52.479
<v Speaker 3>were trying to be an intimidating force. The other was not.

1544
01:24:53.119 --> 01:24:56.000
<v Speaker 3>The US movement was trying to be a communal and

1545
01:24:56.199 --> 01:24:59.479
<v Speaker 3>family gathering type of situation to be seen as a

1546
01:24:59.640 --> 01:25:03.720
<v Speaker 3>very positive thing for the community as a whole. With

1547
01:25:03.880 --> 01:25:08.560
<v Speaker 3>that being said, it's understood that he was also an

1548
01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:16.119
<v Speaker 3>FBI plant. That should that what Krenga was absolutely an

1549
01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:21.640
<v Speaker 3>FBI plant, and that's been confirmed. But there's there's backstories

1550
01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:24.680
<v Speaker 3>to this because the Black Panthers at this time also

1551
01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:27.439
<v Speaker 3>had plants that were on their side of things to

1552
01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:31.520
<v Speaker 3>try to see if these were homegrown terrorist organizations or not. Right,

1553
01:25:31.600 --> 01:25:34.119
<v Speaker 3>And again, you gotta keep mind in sixty six, the

1554
01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:36.760
<v Speaker 3>government was looking for anything they could start pointing the

1555
01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:39.159
<v Speaker 3>finger out and saying, Ah, that's the bad guy. You

1556
01:25:39.239 --> 01:25:42.079
<v Speaker 3>see what I'm saying here. Yeah, So we're gonna skip

1557
01:25:42.119 --> 01:25:44.159
<v Speaker 3>ahead a little bit because the author kind of goes

1558
01:25:44.319 --> 01:25:48.159
<v Speaker 3>into his own personal take on this, but you know,

1559
01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:51.880
<v Speaker 3>we'll pick up here it says, you know what not.

1560
01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:55.439
<v Speaker 3>I discovered Kwanza while attending Pomona College, separated for the

1561
01:25:55.560 --> 01:25:58.000
<v Speaker 3>first time from my family in the black Pentecostal church

1562
01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:00.039
<v Speaker 3>I had attended at least three times a week. I

1563
01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:03.600
<v Speaker 3>craved black culture. There were fewer than ten African American

1564
01:26:03.640 --> 01:26:07.279
<v Speaker 3>students in my cohort, and I felt culturally isolated. Soul

1565
01:26:07.359 --> 01:26:10.960
<v Speaker 3>food launches offered through the Office of Black Student Affairs

1566
01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:14.199
<v Speaker 3>or a weekly source of comfort. Then I was introduced

1567
01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:16.880
<v Speaker 3>to the year in celebration that had been created for

1568
01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:21.319
<v Speaker 3>black people by a black man. Muallana Kurenga unveiled Kwansa

1569
01:26:21.359 --> 01:26:23.479
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen sixty six to fill the gaps where the

1570
01:26:23.640 --> 01:26:27.159
<v Speaker 3>US had failed African Americans. Set against the backdrop of

1571
01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:30.319
<v Speaker 3>the Civil rights movement, The seven day celebration urged African

1572
01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:36.000
<v Speaker 3>American communities to define and uplift themselves. Kurenga designed seven principles.

1573
01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:40.399
<v Speaker 3>We already talked about them. The unity, self determination, collective

1574
01:26:40.479 --> 01:26:44.800
<v Speaker 3>work and responsibility, cooperative opera, economics, purpose, creativity, and faith.

1575
01:26:45.159 --> 01:26:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Each principle correlated to a specific day and symbol to

1576
01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:52.800
<v Speaker 3>be celebrated. December twenty sixth to January first. Kwansa beckons

1577
01:26:52.880 --> 01:26:55.479
<v Speaker 3>us to the heights of our humanity, petitioning us to

1578
01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:59.680
<v Speaker 3>imagine ourselves and our communities in ways white American culture

1579
01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:05.479
<v Speaker 3>can and will not okay. Kwanto was attracted particularly because

1580
01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:10.000
<v Speaker 3>it was fubu for us by us, a cultural celebration

1581
01:27:10.159 --> 01:27:13.960
<v Speaker 3>that was distinctly ours, untainted by white supremacy. It was

1582
01:27:14.039 --> 01:27:17.680
<v Speaker 3>an annual reminder that hashtag black lives matter. Before the

1583
01:27:17.720 --> 01:27:21.520
<v Speaker 3>hashtag emerged, it felt pristine until I suddenly it was

1584
01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:25.760
<v Speaker 3>suddenly sullied for me. Two years ago, more than a

1585
01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:28.600
<v Speaker 3>decade after college, I was commissioned to write about the

1586
01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:31.800
<v Speaker 3>history of Kwanza. That's when I learned that Korenga had

1587
01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:36.720
<v Speaker 3>been convicted of heinous felonies, though he denied the allegations.

1588
01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:39.439
<v Speaker 3>In nineteen seventy, he and three other members of the

1589
01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:43.960
<v Speaker 3>US Organization, a black nationalist group based in la imprisoned

1590
01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:48.560
<v Speaker 3>and assaulted two female members of their own organization. Trial

1591
01:27:48.640 --> 01:27:51.159
<v Speaker 3>testimony revealed that the women had been whipped with cords,

1592
01:27:51.279 --> 01:27:54.920
<v Speaker 3>beaten with batons, seared with irons while naked in an

1593
01:27:54.960 --> 01:27:58.039
<v Speaker 3>effort to elicit confessions that they were conspiring against him.

1594
01:27:58.479 --> 01:28:02.199
<v Speaker 3>Those confessions never Materie realized. Karenga served a few years

1595
01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:05.039
<v Speaker 3>in prison and later went to get his doctorate and teach.

1596
01:28:07.720 --> 01:28:13.920
<v Speaker 3>So now, wow, okay, yeah, Like I said, he went

1597
01:28:14.119 --> 01:28:16.439
<v Speaker 3>on and did a lot of amazing things for the

1598
01:28:16.520 --> 01:28:19.479
<v Speaker 3>black community, and I'm not taken away from that, but

1599
01:28:19.680 --> 01:28:24.920
<v Speaker 3>at that time, he in nineteen seventy, when this court

1600
01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:28.239
<v Speaker 3>case was finally heard, and justice, I don't believe justice

1601
01:28:28.359 --> 01:28:32.600
<v Speaker 3>was served personally, because this is the kindest version of

1602
01:28:32.680 --> 01:28:33.800
<v Speaker 3>this story that I could find.

1603
01:28:35.359 --> 01:28:39.359
<v Speaker 5>It's the not kind version. I mean, clearly, I mean beaten,

1604
01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:44.159
<v Speaker 5>assaulted these women for glad knows how many days.

1605
01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:48.119
<v Speaker 3>It Some say it was an evening, some say it

1606
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:51.600
<v Speaker 3>was days. Some say there was other types of assault

1607
01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:55.680
<v Speaker 3>that was done. Some say that that's all propaganda. I

1608
01:28:56.640 --> 01:29:03.960
<v Speaker 3>you know. So essentially, here's the layout here, and I'm

1609
01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:08.800
<v Speaker 3>not giving you the context to diminish the atroses this

1610
01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:12.680
<v Speaker 3>guy committed to these two innocent women. But here's the backstory.

1611
01:29:13.359 --> 01:29:16.119
<v Speaker 3>The Black Panthers had already put out a hit on

1612
01:29:16.319 --> 01:29:21.199
<v Speaker 3>him at this point, and allegedly he had retaliated by

1613
01:29:21.279 --> 01:29:23.279
<v Speaker 3>putting a hit out on a couple of these other

1614
01:29:23.479 --> 01:29:26.439
<v Speaker 3>individuals from the Black Panthers. What I'm saying right now

1615
01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:29.640
<v Speaker 3>cannot be cooperated. It really really depends on the source

1616
01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:32.159
<v Speaker 3>you look into. But we know for sure that the

1617
01:29:32.359 --> 01:29:35.279
<v Speaker 3>FBI was watching him, and the FBI was watching the

1618
01:29:35.319 --> 01:29:40.720
<v Speaker 3>Black Panthers. This is before he was a confirmed FBI plant.

1619
01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:43.880
<v Speaker 3>At this point in time, he was still, as you know,

1620
01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:49.159
<v Speaker 3>as much of a brother of the movement as anybody.

1621
01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:52.359
<v Speaker 3>And this was after he found a Kwanza. Keep that

1622
01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:55.840
<v Speaker 3>in mind. He found it in sixty six. In seventy

1623
01:29:55.960 --> 01:29:58.159
<v Speaker 3>is when he did these things.

1624
01:29:58.239 --> 01:29:58.840
<v Speaker 5>Loss of shit.

1625
01:29:59.079 --> 01:30:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, he knew that the FBI was watching him.

1626
01:30:03.279 --> 01:30:05.880
<v Speaker 3>There was also some letters written to him by some

1627
01:30:06.359 --> 01:30:09.159
<v Speaker 3>quote unquote anonymous sources telling him he needs to calm down,

1628
01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:12.199
<v Speaker 3>very similar to how Martin Luther King Jr. Got some

1629
01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:17.319
<v Speaker 3>letters written to him from the FBI. So he was

1630
01:30:17.399 --> 01:30:20.479
<v Speaker 3>making enough waves to where the government took notice. And

1631
01:30:20.560 --> 01:30:24.640
<v Speaker 3>these two women, who were also loyal followers of him

1632
01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:32.880
<v Speaker 3>and the US organization, they thought were FBI spies and

1633
01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:39.359
<v Speaker 3>they were torturing them to get confessions. There was nothing

1634
01:30:39.439 --> 01:30:42.960
<v Speaker 3>to confess. These women had no ties to the FBI.

1635
01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:49.720
<v Speaker 3>And he was a bit crazy for this one after

1636
01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:53.800
<v Speaker 3>he got out of jail, A bit, a lot, a lot.

1637
01:30:53.920 --> 01:30:57.800
<v Speaker 3>These women were beaten, like most of the reports I

1638
01:30:57.880 --> 01:30:59.760
<v Speaker 3>find would say within an inch of their lives, they were,

1639
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:05.439
<v Speaker 3>and they were whipped. They were beaten with batons, not

1640
01:31:05.640 --> 01:31:08.479
<v Speaker 3>like little twigs, not like a switch like, No, with sticks,

1641
01:31:08.560 --> 01:31:14.239
<v Speaker 3>like with proper closet dowels. Bones are broken, hair was

1642
01:31:14.319 --> 01:31:18.079
<v Speaker 3>ripped out. I've heard possible rape. I don't know. I

1643
01:31:18.199 --> 01:31:21.640
<v Speaker 3>don't know, because again it depends on the source. But

1644
01:31:21.800 --> 01:31:25.880
<v Speaker 3>like I said, this is the kindest account that I

1645
01:31:25.920 --> 01:31:28.439
<v Speaker 3>could find on the internet. And we didn't need to

1646
01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:32.720
<v Speaker 3>bring it up because later on Karrenga himself did in

1647
01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:36.520
<v Speaker 3>fact work for the FBI. Perhaps that was a part

1648
01:31:36.560 --> 01:31:38.560
<v Speaker 3>of the plea deal to why he only served a

1649
01:31:38.720 --> 01:31:40.199
<v Speaker 3>few years in prison for this.

1650
01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:45.239
<v Speaker 5>I mean I could see it. I could see them

1651
01:31:45.279 --> 01:31:47.800
<v Speaker 5>coming to him and being like, hey, look, you have

1652
01:31:47.880 --> 01:31:50.119
<v Speaker 5>to serve something because on paper, we have to make

1653
01:31:50.159 --> 01:31:53.399
<v Speaker 5>it look like there's some justice was served and now

1654
01:31:53.479 --> 01:31:54.600
<v Speaker 5>you're in our pocket.

1655
01:31:56.159 --> 01:31:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Which he later on did help the FBI try to

1656
01:32:00.960 --> 01:32:05.359
<v Speaker 3>wrangle in and shut down certain chapters of the Black

1657
01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Panther Party, which was no skin off of his nose

1658
01:32:08.680 --> 01:32:14.239
<v Speaker 3>because he hated the Black Panthers anyway. So turning snitch

1659
01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:18.840
<v Speaker 3>to go against your already enemy and you get off

1660
01:32:19.199 --> 01:32:21.359
<v Speaker 3>with a way lesser sentence. I think he only served

1661
01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:24.720
<v Speaker 3>like three years for these two assaults. Wow.

1662
01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:32.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So maybe somebody better could like revitalize Kwansee name

1663
01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:33.079
<v Speaker 5>it something else.

1664
01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:37.439
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know it is revitalized, if nothing else. People

1665
01:32:37.479 --> 01:32:40.560
<v Speaker 3>are still celebrating. It's somewhere. Some estimates are saying twelve

1666
01:32:40.640 --> 01:32:44.880
<v Speaker 3>million people every year celebrated. So although this guy did

1667
01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:48.319
<v Speaker 3>some crazy, heinous shit, it didn't take away from all

1668
01:32:48.359 --> 01:32:50.760
<v Speaker 3>of the amazing things that we talked about that Kwanza

1669
01:32:50.840 --> 01:32:56.159
<v Speaker 3>represents for the community itself. Right, the author continues to say,

1670
01:32:56.199 --> 01:32:58.640
<v Speaker 3>my stomach lurches I read about the trial and his conviction.

1671
01:32:58.760 --> 01:33:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Kurengo has found guilty of violence against black women. How

1672
01:33:02.039 --> 01:33:05.359
<v Speaker 3>could Quansa's inventor be that person? What did it mean

1673
01:33:05.399 --> 01:33:08.159
<v Speaker 3>about the celebration I had embraced. Why did no one

1674
01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:10.479
<v Speaker 3>talk about his history? And I couldn't help but wonder

1675
01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:15.199
<v Speaker 3>if Karenga's history was elighted because Kwansa's viability was deemed

1676
01:33:15.239 --> 01:33:19.680
<v Speaker 3>more important than Black women's safety. The discovery felt like

1677
01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:21.960
<v Speaker 3>a personal loss and a loss for black culture, and

1678
01:33:22.079 --> 01:33:25.039
<v Speaker 3>it left me with a dilemma to embrace Kwansa or not.

1679
01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:28.279
<v Speaker 3>In ways, it's similar to the dilemma faced by those

1680
01:33:28.319 --> 01:33:30.920
<v Speaker 3>who admire the work of an artist who have been

1681
01:33:30.960 --> 01:33:34.239
<v Speaker 3>accused of a sexual assault or harassment in the hashtag

1682
01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:37.560
<v Speaker 3>me too era, should we continue to admire the work

1683
01:33:37.640 --> 01:33:43.239
<v Speaker 3>of a person who has done unconscious ofble things. Last year,

1684
01:33:43.439 --> 01:33:45.520
<v Speaker 3>the author did not celebrate Kuwansa. But this year I

1685
01:33:45.560 --> 01:33:48.479
<v Speaker 3>will again light the candles every night starting December twenty sixth.

1686
01:33:48.920 --> 01:33:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Kwansa's originator may have a dark side, but the holiday

1687
01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:54.119
<v Speaker 3>itself is a beacon. My yearning for it is a

1688
01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:57.479
<v Speaker 3>sign that it fulfills its goals. It reminds African Americans

1689
01:33:57.520 --> 01:34:01.239
<v Speaker 3>of their crucial connection to each other. I have to

1690
01:34:01.319 --> 01:34:04.720
<v Speaker 3>agree with that, and I'm not saying that this is

1691
01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:07.079
<v Speaker 3>the same as like the hashtag me too, movement, like

1692
01:34:07.680 --> 01:34:11.520
<v Speaker 3>especially like listening to p Ditty's music. Now knowing things

1693
01:34:11.560 --> 01:34:14.640
<v Speaker 3>about Diddy, No, I can't listen to his music anymore.

1694
01:34:14.920 --> 01:34:19.800
<v Speaker 3>It resonates different for me personally. But that's also because

1695
01:34:20.720 --> 01:34:24.159
<v Speaker 3>nothing that, nothing of his music resonated with my soul

1696
01:34:24.640 --> 01:34:26.720
<v Speaker 3>to a level that was like filling a void or

1697
01:34:26.760 --> 01:34:28.800
<v Speaker 3>anything like. It was just you know, something to bobbyr

1698
01:34:28.800 --> 01:34:30.720
<v Speaker 3>Head too, as you're driving down the road. It's not

1699
01:34:30.840 --> 01:34:33.920
<v Speaker 3>a big loss for me for Kwanza, for anybody who

1700
01:34:33.960 --> 01:34:40.359
<v Speaker 3>does celebrate Kwanza, it shouldn't take away from the communal grouping,

1701
01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:44.239
<v Speaker 3>right and for all these seven principles, which again going

1702
01:34:44.279 --> 01:34:46.359
<v Speaker 3>down the list of these seven principles is something that

1703
01:34:46.600 --> 01:34:49.960
<v Speaker 3>everybody of every race, of every socioonomic background, for with

1704
01:34:50.039 --> 01:34:53.079
<v Speaker 3>every religion, whatever. If you apply these to your life,

1705
01:34:53.239 --> 01:34:55.600
<v Speaker 3>you will be a better person as a result. I

1706
01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:56.960
<v Speaker 3>think we can all agree with that.

1707
01:34:57.079 --> 01:34:59.079
<v Speaker 5>I do you agree with her when she said that?

1708
01:34:59.199 --> 01:35:02.840
<v Speaker 5>I think that is very true, at least to the

1709
01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:06.920
<v Speaker 5>principles of it. I don't know if I personally, if

1710
01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:11.079
<v Speaker 5>I was of African American background, if I would want

1711
01:35:11.159 --> 01:35:15.720
<v Speaker 5>to participate in a holiday in which he actually harmed

1712
01:35:17.319 --> 01:35:22.159
<v Speaker 5>black women and to that level, and that hate like, yeah,

1713
01:35:22.279 --> 01:35:25.640
<v Speaker 5>to be that that horrible. I don't know personally if

1714
01:35:25.680 --> 01:35:28.439
<v Speaker 5>I would want to celebrate something that's attached to that person.

1715
01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:32.359
<v Speaker 5>But I mean, to each your own and the I mean,

1716
01:35:32.560 --> 01:35:37.079
<v Speaker 5>the holiday itself sounds fantastic in everything that we've read.

1717
01:35:37.199 --> 01:35:42.319
<v Speaker 5>But I don't know if I wanted to associate myself

1718
01:35:42.399 --> 01:35:43.119
<v Speaker 5>with something like that.

1719
01:35:43.359 --> 01:35:46.159
<v Speaker 3>That's just me. I get it. I get it. But again,

1720
01:35:46.640 --> 01:35:50.079
<v Speaker 3>the author says, I decided that hating Coranga's crimes didn't

1721
01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:53.920
<v Speaker 3>or Kerenga's crimes didn't mean abandoning the good that he accomplished.

1722
01:35:54.159 --> 01:35:57.800
<v Speaker 3>The US Organization or the US Organization's nineteen sixties petitions

1723
01:35:57.880 --> 01:36:01.000
<v Speaker 3>for black study courses in US colleges and universities is

1724
01:36:01.119 --> 01:36:04.439
<v Speaker 3>one reason those classes existed for me to take in college.

1725
01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:09.520
<v Speaker 3>His emphasis on Ujama cooperative economics the fourth principle is

1726
01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:13.479
<v Speaker 3>why I quote unquote by black whenever possible. Quanta calls

1727
01:36:13.479 --> 01:36:16.359
<v Speaker 3>on African Americans to see one another and uplift one another,

1728
01:36:16.560 --> 01:36:19.840
<v Speaker 3>something we particularly need right now. It beckons us to

1729
01:36:19.960 --> 01:36:23.640
<v Speaker 3>the heights of our humanity, petitioning us to imagine ourselves

1730
01:36:23.680 --> 01:36:26.279
<v Speaker 3>in our communities in ways white American culture cannot and

1731
01:36:26.359 --> 01:36:29.319
<v Speaker 3>will not. We need to acknowledge Kerenga's full story, but

1732
01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:32.000
<v Speaker 3>it shouldn't tarnish the value and beauty of the holiday

1733
01:36:32.039 --> 01:36:34.520
<v Speaker 3>that promotes collective action for the collective good.

1734
01:36:35.840 --> 01:36:38.680
<v Speaker 5>And so it's truly I think it's well written, yeah,

1735
01:36:38.680 --> 01:36:42.159
<v Speaker 5>and and holds really good points. So I mean, I

1736
01:36:42.600 --> 01:36:46.840
<v Speaker 5>think it's just a personal choice for whoever actually participates

1737
01:36:46.880 --> 01:36:50.760
<v Speaker 5>in Kwanzaah, I do agree that you know, this does

1738
01:36:50.960 --> 01:36:54.920
<v Speaker 5>help their community and help strengthen it. And yeah, I

1739
01:36:54.960 --> 01:36:57.960
<v Speaker 5>think it's great. I agree the holiday. Let me let

1740
01:36:58.039 --> 01:37:00.319
<v Speaker 5>me refreeze the holiday.

1741
01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:03.239
<v Speaker 3>Right right right, And I mean other articles that I've

1742
01:37:03.279 --> 01:37:08.079
<v Speaker 3>found that were shitting on Korenga himself, although it's deserved,

1743
01:37:08.720 --> 01:37:13.479
<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent deserved, they also decided to take jabs

1744
01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:16.720
<v Speaker 3>at Kwansa as a holiday and basically say that it's

1745
01:37:16.760 --> 01:37:19.520
<v Speaker 3>all fake, it's all made up. He just stole something

1746
01:37:19.560 --> 01:37:21.439
<v Speaker 3>from this group and this group and threw it together.

1747
01:37:21.520 --> 01:37:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Why is corn on the table? Why we got jewish

1748
01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:27.199
<v Speaker 3>looking candles? And it was and also written by black authors.

1749
01:37:27.239 --> 01:37:30.359
<v Speaker 3>I should mention, but I didn't want that to be

1750
01:37:30.479 --> 01:37:32.960
<v Speaker 3>the vibe as they're talking about Kwanza, because there are

1751
01:37:33.039 --> 01:37:36.119
<v Speaker 3>so many awesome things about this holiday. But I also

1752
01:37:36.199 --> 01:37:40.000
<v Speaker 3>couldn't especially how this is the cult of conspiracy. We

1753
01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:42.439
<v Speaker 3>do need to mention the fact that Krenga was working

1754
01:37:42.680 --> 01:37:45.479
<v Speaker 3>with the FBI after his arrest for the assault on

1755
01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:49.199
<v Speaker 3>two women that he thought was FBI agents, which again,

1756
01:37:49.279 --> 01:37:51.479
<v Speaker 3>if you want to do your own research into the

1757
01:37:52.319 --> 01:37:59.640
<v Speaker 3>incident itself, this was the kindest quotes that I could find,

1758
01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:03.119
<v Speaker 3>for it goes as far as your imagination wants it

1759
01:38:03.199 --> 01:38:07.000
<v Speaker 3>to go, depending on the author. And he absolutely was

1760
01:38:07.199 --> 01:38:11.039
<v Speaker 3>an FBI plant designated to help them shut down factions

1761
01:38:11.079 --> 01:38:14.479
<v Speaker 3>of the Black Panther Party which went against the Black culture.

1762
01:38:14.920 --> 01:38:17.920
<v Speaker 3>And so it's as talking about the cult of conspiracy here.

1763
01:38:18.880 --> 01:38:22.439
<v Speaker 3>There were some absolute conspiratorial connections on this, but Kwansa itself,

1764
01:38:22.600 --> 01:38:24.159
<v Speaker 3>as far as I can tell, as not anything of

1765
01:38:24.199 --> 01:38:28.000
<v Speaker 3>the conspiratorial nature. It is something of a non religious,

1766
01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:32.640
<v Speaker 3>cultural cultural holiday, and I think it does in fact

1767
01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:35.560
<v Speaker 3>reach out to the best of the community, and I

1768
01:38:35.800 --> 01:38:40.880
<v Speaker 3>like it. I do anyway. Next Good Cult Members, we

1769
01:38:40.960 --> 01:38:44.199
<v Speaker 3>are going to be talking about Christmas across Native America

1770
01:38:44.279 --> 01:38:46.960
<v Speaker 3>and we are going to talk about some more more

1771
01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:49.920
<v Speaker 3>obscure tribes on the next episode. But for this one,

1772
01:38:50.319 --> 01:38:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Raven Lee actually did a little bit of research into these.

1773
01:38:53.159 --> 01:38:58.279
<v Speaker 5>This is this kind of just a general overview of

1774
01:38:59.159 --> 01:39:02.920
<v Speaker 5>just kind of how Christmas is celebrated in Native American tribes,

1775
01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:07.000
<v Speaker 5>kind of like how it came about. It's it's not

1776
01:39:07.119 --> 01:39:10.479
<v Speaker 5>a super deep dive there, you know, there was a

1777
01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:13.880
<v Speaker 5>lot of information if we dove relled deep into it,

1778
01:39:14.119 --> 01:39:16.880
<v Speaker 5>right of some of the different things and aspects that

1779
01:39:16.960 --> 01:39:21.239
<v Speaker 5>they do. But overall, a lot of people don't celebrate

1780
01:39:21.399 --> 01:39:24.560
<v Speaker 5>Christmas in the same sense, obviously because it is a

1781
01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:29.279
<v Speaker 5>Christian holiday, and how Christianity was kind of forced fed

1782
01:39:29.439 --> 01:39:33.359
<v Speaker 5>down their throats by not everyone. You know, some people

1783
01:39:33.439 --> 01:39:36.600
<v Speaker 5>converted wanting you know, wanting to convert themselves, but a

1784
01:39:36.720 --> 01:39:40.319
<v Speaker 5>lot of them their traditions were erased and eradicated for sure,

1785
01:39:40.359 --> 01:39:42.920
<v Speaker 5>and they suffered a lot, you know, so they aren't

1786
01:39:42.920 --> 01:39:46.520
<v Speaker 5>really keen on celebrating Christmas in and of itself, but

1787
01:39:47.399 --> 01:39:51.039
<v Speaker 5>Winter Solstice is more or less what they've always celebrated,

1788
01:39:51.399 --> 01:39:54.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, seeing with a lot of cultures around the world,

1789
01:39:54.079 --> 01:40:00.439
<v Speaker 5>and so the Smithsonian there was like several Native Watch

1790
01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:04.319
<v Speaker 5>McCall it websites and they all kind of reference back

1791
01:40:04.399 --> 01:40:07.119
<v Speaker 5>to this particular article over and over again. So I

1792
01:40:07.239 --> 01:40:08.399
<v Speaker 5>was like, you know what, I'll just pull up the

1793
01:40:08.479 --> 01:40:11.960
<v Speaker 5>actual Smithsonian article instead of just you know, keep referencing

1794
01:40:12.039 --> 01:40:12.800
<v Speaker 5>back and forth to it.

1795
01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:16.000
<v Speaker 3>So no doubt way, they're so pretty and I love

1796
01:40:16.079 --> 01:40:19.119
<v Speaker 3>their earrings. Yeah, I will say, And this is not

1797
01:40:19.479 --> 01:40:23.159
<v Speaker 3>my taking an opportunity to take a jab at the Catholics.

1798
01:40:23.239 --> 01:40:25.880
<v Speaker 3>But hear me out here. If you listen back to

1799
01:40:25.960 --> 01:40:29.159
<v Speaker 3>our Thanksgiving episode and we talked about King Phillip's War,

1800
01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:36.279
<v Speaker 3>there were Iroquois that or Iroquois that became uh, praying Indians.

1801
01:40:36.720 --> 01:40:39.640
<v Speaker 3>They were Indians that were not forced converted. They converted

1802
01:40:39.680 --> 01:40:41.720
<v Speaker 3>out of their own free will, and they were welcomed

1803
01:40:41.720 --> 01:40:45.800
<v Speaker 3>with open arms by the settlers. This being said, there

1804
01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:49.800
<v Speaker 3>is at least as far as American history is concerned,

1805
01:40:49.840 --> 01:40:53.039
<v Speaker 3>there is a clear dividing line between which groups forced

1806
01:40:53.159 --> 01:40:56.880
<v Speaker 3>conversions i e. The Jesuits at the schoolhouses that the

1807
01:40:57.079 --> 01:41:00.720
<v Speaker 3>Native children were forced to go to, and the Puritans

1808
01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:05.359
<v Speaker 3>and Protestants, and how they converted the native population. One

1809
01:41:05.439 --> 01:41:07.960
<v Speaker 3>of these was through kindness, and one of these was

1810
01:41:08.039 --> 01:41:11.159
<v Speaker 3>at gunpoint. Do your own history to find out who

1811
01:41:11.279 --> 01:41:14.560
<v Speaker 3>did what. I'm just gonna say, we can't lump all

1812
01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:16.439
<v Speaker 3>of them into the same grouping. But yes to your point,

1813
01:41:16.560 --> 01:41:19.079
<v Speaker 3>raven Lee. Some of them were, some of them were

1814
01:41:19.600 --> 01:41:22.479
<v Speaker 3>very much of their own fruition, some of them very

1815
01:41:22.560 --> 01:41:25.640
<v Speaker 3>much were not. That is absolutely a fact, all right.

1816
01:41:25.720 --> 01:41:28.439
<v Speaker 3>So reading in from the Smithsonian magazine here. For the

1817
01:41:28.520 --> 01:41:31.560
<v Speaker 3>last few years, Native friends have shared their Christmas plans

1818
01:41:31.600 --> 01:41:35.239
<v Speaker 3>and traditions with Smithsonian voices. This year we have updated

1819
01:41:35.279 --> 01:41:39.039
<v Speaker 3>the story with new photographs and quotes. The introduction of

1820
01:41:39.119 --> 01:41:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Christianity to the Americans and the origins of Christmas can

1821
01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:47.600
<v Speaker 3>be controversial to native circles. Europeans knowingly replaced native people's

1822
01:41:47.680 --> 01:41:50.119
<v Speaker 3>existing spiritual beliefs with the beliefs taught in the Bible,

1823
01:41:50.479 --> 01:41:54.479
<v Speaker 3>cruelly and brutally often accompanied or cruelty and brutality rather

1824
01:41:54.640 --> 01:41:59.760
<v Speaker 3>often accompanied this introd indoctrination. Yet it is also true

1825
01:41:59.800 --> 01:42:03.000
<v Speaker 3>that some tribes, families, and individuals embrace the Bible and

1826
01:42:03.239 --> 01:42:08.079
<v Speaker 3>Jesus teachings voluntarily. This complicated history is reflected here. All

1827
01:42:08.159 --> 01:42:11.319
<v Speaker 3>throughout Indian country, native people have gathered in churches, missions,

1828
01:42:11.439 --> 01:42:13.600
<v Speaker 3>and temples to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ by

1829
01:42:13.640 --> 01:42:17.960
<v Speaker 3>singing carols and hymns in their native language. In some churches,

1830
01:42:18.039 --> 01:42:20.720
<v Speaker 3>the story of Jesus Birth is recited in native languages.

1831
01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:24.439
<v Speaker 3>That's cool. Some Native churches also host Nativity plays using

1832
01:42:24.560 --> 01:42:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Natives settings and actors to reenact the birth of Jesus

1833
01:42:28.039 --> 01:42:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Christ among Catholics. Christmas Eve Mass traditionally begins in Indian

1834
01:42:32.720 --> 01:42:35.920
<v Speaker 3>communities at midnight and extends into the early hours of

1835
01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Christmas Day. In Tippis Hogans and houses, the Native American Church,

1836
01:42:41.800 --> 01:42:45.840
<v Speaker 3>or the NAC, members also hold Christmas Services ceremonies that

1837
01:42:45.920 --> 01:42:49.439
<v Speaker 3>begin on Christmas Eve and go all night until Christmas morning.

1838
01:42:49.880 --> 01:42:52.920
<v Speaker 3>And I will say this about the NAC. They may

1839
01:42:53.119 --> 01:42:58.359
<v Speaker 3>hold true to Christian beliefs, but they still blend them

1840
01:42:58.479 --> 01:43:03.399
<v Speaker 3>with their ancestral Native customs and cultures. For instance, the

1841
01:43:03.520 --> 01:43:06.960
<v Speaker 3>sharing of communal peyote. Even though the NAC is a

1842
01:43:07.079 --> 01:43:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Christian denomination. When they do their massive like things, everybody,

1843
01:43:13.640 --> 01:43:16.359
<v Speaker 3>including the small children will get their spoonful of peyote.

1844
01:43:16.840 --> 01:43:19.760
<v Speaker 3>So keep in mind, they're still holding true to their

1845
01:43:19.800 --> 01:43:22.359
<v Speaker 3>traditions as much as they can. So that's good things.

1846
01:43:24.079 --> 01:43:28.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's see. Continuing on, music played in an important part

1847
01:43:28.640 --> 01:43:32.000
<v Speaker 3>in converting Native people, establishing their practice of worship, and

1848
01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:35.000
<v Speaker 3>teaching them how to celebrate the Christmas season. Perhaps the

1849
01:43:35.119 --> 01:43:38.600
<v Speaker 3>earliest North American Christmas Carol was written in the why

1850
01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:46.520
<v Speaker 3>a dote y undot language of the Huron winded people. Okay, Jesus,

1851
01:43:47.399 --> 01:43:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Jesus ahtaniah Yeah, Jesus.

1852
01:43:51.600 --> 01:43:53.119
<v Speaker 5>He is born. This is why I didn't want to

1853
01:43:53.159 --> 01:43:53.399
<v Speaker 5>read it.

1854
01:43:53.600 --> 01:43:58.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks Dick. Popularly known as Noel Huron or the

1855
01:43:58.279 --> 01:44:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Huron Carol, is said by oral traditions to have been

1856
01:44:01.279 --> 01:44:05.039
<v Speaker 3>written in sixteen forty three by the Jesuit priest Jean

1857
01:44:05.159 --> 01:44:10.439
<v Speaker 3>de bre beauf Okay. In contemporary times, traditional powow singing

1858
01:44:10.520 --> 01:44:13.880
<v Speaker 3>groups have rearranged Christmas songs to appeal to native audiences.

1859
01:44:14.199 --> 01:44:17.479
<v Speaker 3>I do love powow music, like the drums in.

1860
01:44:17.479 --> 01:44:21.319
<v Speaker 5>The same fantastic. I have a girlfriend of mine that

1861
01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:26.640
<v Speaker 5>I think lives in Wyoming, and she she's high, like

1862
01:44:26.800 --> 01:44:29.239
<v Speaker 5>her family's high up, and I believe in a tribe.

1863
01:44:29.640 --> 01:44:33.079
<v Speaker 5>But she makes traditional moccasins for all different sizes, mainly

1864
01:44:33.159 --> 01:44:37.039
<v Speaker 5>she makes them for children, and her daughter just went

1865
01:44:37.119 --> 01:44:40.279
<v Speaker 5>to her first powowt and oh my god, it's so cute.

1866
01:44:40.359 --> 01:44:40.760
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

1867
01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:43.239
<v Speaker 5>But I have actually quite a few friends that are Native,

1868
01:44:43.359 --> 01:44:47.720
<v Speaker 5>and I just absolutely think that all of their different

1869
01:44:47.800 --> 01:44:50.199
<v Speaker 5>tribes are so fascinating and they have some of the

1870
01:44:50.319 --> 01:44:54.880
<v Speaker 5>best culture, and I just love listening to their dances

1871
01:44:54.920 --> 01:44:56.920
<v Speaker 5>and the way they sing and everything that they do

1872
01:44:57.159 --> 01:44:57.920
<v Speaker 5>is so awesome.

1873
01:44:58.479 --> 01:45:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Shoot, I want to go. I want to get some moccasins.

1874
01:45:03.800 --> 01:45:06.600
<v Speaker 5>I mean, if you're you, I don't know if you're

1875
01:45:06.640 --> 01:45:08.479
<v Speaker 5>recognized by the tribe, but if.

1876
01:45:08.319 --> 01:45:10.359
<v Speaker 3>You are, you can. You have to be recognized. My

1877
01:45:10.439 --> 01:45:12.760
<v Speaker 3>money ain't green enough, asshole.

1878
01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:15.119
<v Speaker 5>You have to be recognized by the tribe. You have

1879
01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:18.079
<v Speaker 5>to have your certification to be able to attend a powow.

1880
01:45:18.279 --> 01:45:21.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, not to attend a pow wow, to participate,

1881
01:45:21.279 --> 01:45:23.880
<v Speaker 3>you got to, but you can show up as a spectator.

1882
01:45:24.279 --> 01:45:26.399
<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm not trying to participate. I don't know the

1883
01:45:26.520 --> 01:45:28.399
<v Speaker 3>dances of the songs, the language, any of that stuff.

1884
01:45:28.479 --> 01:45:31.239
<v Speaker 3>But no, just to own a pair of moccasins and

1885
01:45:31.279 --> 01:45:34.560
<v Speaker 3>wear them around the house like loafers. She I've found

1886
01:45:34.640 --> 01:45:38.840
<v Speaker 3>some by Oneida and these are traditionally made the same

1887
01:45:38.880 --> 01:45:42.600
<v Speaker 3>way that the Oneida tribe made them. But they're so expensive.

1888
01:45:42.640 --> 01:45:46.359
<v Speaker 3>Harrison Ford consistently wears a pair. If you ever see

1889
01:45:46.399 --> 01:45:48.840
<v Speaker 3>him out and about in town, and he's wearing these moccasins.

1890
01:45:50.039 --> 01:45:51.640
<v Speaker 3>That's this one brand, And I.

1891
01:45:51.680 --> 01:45:54.880
<v Speaker 5>Want one honestly, I honestly could probably reach out to

1892
01:45:54.960 --> 01:45:57.560
<v Speaker 5>her and ask her and like, you know, commission her

1893
01:45:57.640 --> 01:46:02.000
<v Speaker 5>for him, because her beadwork is so phenomenal. Oh my gosh,

1894
01:46:02.279 --> 01:46:05.359
<v Speaker 5>oh I love looking and she did these really cool

1895
01:46:05.399 --> 01:46:07.640
<v Speaker 5>ones for her daughter for the pow Wow Yeah, and

1896
01:46:07.800 --> 01:46:11.000
<v Speaker 5>it's such intricate little details in the bead work. It's

1897
01:46:11.479 --> 01:46:12.359
<v Speaker 5>absolutely awesome.

1898
01:46:12.439 --> 01:46:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So yeah, I wouldn't want anything with the bead

1899
01:46:14.079 --> 01:46:15.960
<v Speaker 3>work because it's sitting for pow wow us. This is

1900
01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:18.960
<v Speaker 3>for like me, like hunting in the woods or walking

1901
01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:20.600
<v Speaker 3>around the house or something like that. It would be

1902
01:46:20.680 --> 01:46:23.680
<v Speaker 3>like as bare bones they come so like perhaps, oh.

1903
01:46:23.640 --> 01:46:26.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but she, yeah, she does that. And then actually

1904
01:46:26.319 --> 01:46:29.479
<v Speaker 5>one of my best friends, one of my honestly, she

1905
01:46:29.640 --> 01:46:33.239
<v Speaker 5>probably is my oldest best friend. Actually she is Native

1906
01:46:33.239 --> 01:46:39.520
<v Speaker 5>American and she actually she made the traditional board. So

1907
01:46:39.640 --> 01:46:43.239
<v Speaker 5>when she had her baby, she one of her kids,

1908
01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:45.880
<v Speaker 5>they actually did like the whole ceremonies and all this

1909
01:46:45.960 --> 01:46:50.800
<v Speaker 5>stuff for her being pregnant and her now ex but

1910
01:46:51.079 --> 01:46:55.000
<v Speaker 5>he is like high up in the tribe itself, and

1911
01:46:55.279 --> 01:46:57.960
<v Speaker 5>she brought over because our kids were only like a

1912
01:46:58.000 --> 01:47:01.319
<v Speaker 5>few months apart, and she brought over the actual like backpack,

1913
01:47:01.439 --> 01:47:04.079
<v Speaker 5>the traditional wearing and stuff, and she showed me how

1914
01:47:04.119 --> 01:47:06.439
<v Speaker 5>to do all the laces and how how it is,

1915
01:47:06.640 --> 01:47:09.600
<v Speaker 5>and she gave me all sorts of like so she actually,

1916
01:47:09.800 --> 01:47:11.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, I got to use it and pack around

1917
01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:13.239
<v Speaker 5>my kidne it and stuff, and it was it was

1918
01:47:13.319 --> 01:47:16.079
<v Speaker 5>really cool. It was It's really cool to learn about stuff,

1919
01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:18.800
<v Speaker 5>and I constantly am asking questions and like, what does

1920
01:47:18.880 --> 01:47:21.760
<v Speaker 5>this to, what's this? Yeah, it's it's really awesome to

1921
01:47:21.800 --> 01:47:23.920
<v Speaker 5>be able to have people that are close to me

1922
01:47:24.039 --> 01:47:26.640
<v Speaker 5>that have such rich cultures and be able to learn

1923
01:47:26.720 --> 01:47:28.199
<v Speaker 5>so many different backgrounds of people.

1924
01:47:28.560 --> 01:47:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. Continuing on to the article, it says a humorous

1925
01:47:32.600 --> 01:47:36.560
<v Speaker 3>example is War Scouts n d N Twelve Days of

1926
01:47:36.640 --> 01:47:41.159
<v Speaker 3>Christmas from their album Red Christmas. Native solo artists also

1927
01:47:41.239 --> 01:47:46.039
<v Speaker 3>performed Christmas classics in native languages. Ronda Head Cree, for example,

1928
01:47:46.319 --> 01:47:51.279
<v Speaker 3>has recorded Old Oh, Holy Night, and johna mashby Lumbee

1929
01:47:51.399 --> 01:47:56.600
<v Speaker 3>and tuscarro roh Yeah has recorded Winter Wonderland in a jibway. Oh,

1930
01:47:56.680 --> 01:48:00.520
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of cool. Native communities host traditional trap dances,

1931
01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:03.680
<v Speaker 3>round dances, and powwows on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day,

1932
01:48:03.800 --> 01:48:07.359
<v Speaker 3>all among the Pueblo Indians of the Southwest, special dances

1933
01:48:07.439 --> 01:48:11.720
<v Speaker 3>take place, such as Buffalo eagle, antelope, turtle, and harvest dances.

1934
01:48:12.039 --> 01:48:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Well that's cool to see, right. The eight Northern Pueblos

1935
01:48:17.720 --> 01:48:22.560
<v Speaker 3>of New Mexico perform Los Mati Mada Chinez. Yeah, a

1936
01:48:22.680 --> 01:48:27.119
<v Speaker 3>special dance drama mixing North American, Moorish, Spanish and Pueblo cultures,

1937
01:48:27.359 --> 01:48:30.119
<v Speaker 3>which takes place on Christmas Eve along with a pine

1938
01:48:30.239 --> 01:48:35.079
<v Speaker 3>torch procession. Ah, I bet that thing go up. Oh wow,

1939
01:48:35.079 --> 01:48:37.159
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of really cool pictures here too. For

1940
01:48:37.279 --> 01:48:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Native artisans, this is traditionally the busy season as they

1941
01:48:40.760 --> 01:48:44.720
<v Speaker 3>prepare special Christmas gift items. Artists and crafts people across

1942
01:48:44.800 --> 01:48:50.680
<v Speaker 3>the country create beadwork, woodwork, jewelry, clothing, basketry, pottery, sculptures, paintings,

1943
01:48:50.840 --> 01:48:54.439
<v Speaker 3>leather work and featherwork for special Christmas sales and art

1944
01:48:54.560 --> 01:48:57.319
<v Speaker 3>markets that are open to the public. For seventeen years,

1945
01:48:57.359 --> 01:49:00.560
<v Speaker 3>the National Museum of the American Indian annually holds It's

1946
01:49:00.560 --> 01:49:03.640
<v Speaker 3>a Native Art Market in New York and Washington a

1947
01:49:03.720 --> 01:49:07.319
<v Speaker 3>few weeks before Christmas, which I got to say, when

1948
01:49:07.359 --> 01:49:10.199
<v Speaker 3>we went to DC, I'm so pissed that the government

1949
01:49:10.279 --> 01:49:11.840
<v Speaker 3>was still shut down. We couldn't go because that's one

1950
01:49:11.840 --> 01:49:12.720
<v Speaker 3>of my favorite museums.

1951
01:49:14.239 --> 01:49:17.159
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, that you were going to get all those Smithsonians. Yeah,

1952
01:49:17.960 --> 01:49:18.359
<v Speaker 5>that's all.

1953
01:49:18.439 --> 01:49:20.439
<v Speaker 3>I mean, We're gonna have to make another trip one day,

1954
01:49:21.199 --> 01:49:22.399
<v Speaker 3>I know, in order.

1955
01:49:22.319 --> 01:49:25.720
<v Speaker 5>We have the tribes in Washington and so a lot

1956
01:49:25.760 --> 01:49:28.760
<v Speaker 5>of them come down and they sell at different markets

1957
01:49:28.800 --> 01:49:31.439
<v Speaker 5>and stuff. I have, actually, I think of worn one

1958
01:49:31.560 --> 01:49:34.239
<v Speaker 5>set already on the colt but I have quite a

1959
01:49:34.319 --> 01:49:39.840
<v Speaker 5>few earring sets that are handbeaded, beautiful earrings, because I

1960
01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:42.079
<v Speaker 5>just I love them and I want to support the community.

1961
01:49:42.239 --> 01:49:47.159
<v Speaker 3>So absolutely. In many communities and homes, Christian customs are

1962
01:49:47.199 --> 01:49:50.439
<v Speaker 3>interwoven with Native culture as a means of expressing Christmas

1963
01:49:50.520 --> 01:49:53.560
<v Speaker 3>in a uniquely native way. The importance of giving is

1964
01:49:53.640 --> 01:49:56.319
<v Speaker 3>a cultural tradition among most tribes. Even in times of

1965
01:49:56.399 --> 01:49:59.840
<v Speaker 3>famine and destitution, Native people have made sure their families,

1966
01:49:59.840 --> 01:50:02.880
<v Speaker 3>the old, and orphans were taken care of. This mindset

1967
01:50:02.960 --> 01:50:07.119
<v Speaker 3>prevails into the present. Gift giving is appropriate whenever a tribal,

1968
01:50:07.199 --> 01:50:10.560
<v Speaker 3>social or ceremonial gathering takes place. You know, that's actually

1969
01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:13.239
<v Speaker 3>very important to all the native tribes. As a matter

1970
01:50:13.239 --> 01:50:16.920
<v Speaker 3>of fact. Most famously, when the Irish potato famine took place,

1971
01:50:17.399 --> 01:50:22.000
<v Speaker 3>the Choctaw Tribe sent Ireland five hundred dollars. That was

1972
01:50:22.079 --> 01:50:25.039
<v Speaker 3>all they could afford to give at that moment. There

1973
01:50:25.119 --> 01:50:29.239
<v Speaker 3>is a massive monument to the Choctaw Nation in Ireland

1974
01:50:29.319 --> 01:50:31.760
<v Speaker 3>right now. It's five feathers and when I say massive,

1975
01:50:31.800 --> 01:50:36.560
<v Speaker 3>like they're huge metal feathers that are up And basically

1976
01:50:36.600 --> 01:50:40.159
<v Speaker 3>the Choctaw tribe knew nothing of Ireland, but they heard

1977
01:50:40.199 --> 01:50:42.199
<v Speaker 3>through the grapevine that there was a potato famine and

1978
01:50:42.279 --> 01:50:44.840
<v Speaker 3>that these people were starving to death. So they pulled

1979
01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:47.880
<v Speaker 3>a collection of whatever they could and sent five hundred

1980
01:50:47.920 --> 01:50:50.960
<v Speaker 3>dollars to Ireland to help.

1981
01:50:51.920 --> 01:50:55.720
<v Speaker 5>I didn't even know that. That's crazy, especially five hundred

1982
01:50:55.760 --> 01:50:59.760
<v Speaker 5>dollars back then. Yeah, that's so much money. And for

1983
01:50:59.800 --> 01:51:02.000
<v Speaker 5>them to not even know them or have any part

1984
01:51:02.039 --> 01:51:04.720
<v Speaker 5>of them, especially everything that was going on, that's so

1985
01:51:04.960 --> 01:51:07.119
<v Speaker 5>kind to do that. I didn't even know that. That's

1986
01:51:07.439 --> 01:51:08.359
<v Speaker 5>I would love to see that.

1987
01:51:08.680 --> 01:51:11.239
<v Speaker 3>I am very proud of my choctawl heritage if anybody

1988
01:51:11.319 --> 01:51:13.279
<v Speaker 3>didn't know, and it's not a lot I'm not. I

1989
01:51:13.319 --> 01:51:16.439
<v Speaker 3>don't have like the card, although I think I could

1990
01:51:16.560 --> 01:51:19.880
<v Speaker 3>get it like a little Member of the Choctaw Nation

1991
01:51:20.239 --> 01:51:23.520
<v Speaker 3>identification card, but I haven't gone through the process yet.

1992
01:51:24.119 --> 01:51:27.279
<v Speaker 3>But but yeah, they're If you look at the Choctaw history,

1993
01:51:27.279 --> 01:51:29.600
<v Speaker 3>it's really cool. And their story of the original vampire,

1994
01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:32.079
<v Speaker 3>which is where mosquitoes come from, it's a really cool story.

1995
01:51:32.199 --> 01:51:35.840
<v Speaker 5>But anyway, honestly, I didn't, I haven't. I don't know

1996
01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:39.159
<v Speaker 5>how much Blackfoot we have in us, so I'm I'm

1997
01:51:39.159 --> 01:51:41.359
<v Speaker 5>gonna have to reach out to family members and see.

1998
01:51:41.560 --> 01:51:43.439
<v Speaker 5>But I guess according to you, I don't know a

1999
01:51:43.520 --> 01:51:48.399
<v Speaker 5>bunch about Blackfoot, But according to you, apparently we're a

2000
01:51:48.439 --> 01:51:49.359
<v Speaker 5>little bit salty.

2001
01:51:49.800 --> 01:51:54.560
<v Speaker 3>It looks a little bit shit. They're known as one

2002
01:51:54.640 --> 01:51:57.840
<v Speaker 3>of the if not the meanest tribe. Take that with

2003
01:51:57.960 --> 01:51:59.399
<v Speaker 3>whatever grain assault you need, you know.

2004
01:51:59.479 --> 01:52:01.000
<v Speaker 5>What I'm here for it.

2005
01:52:01.319 --> 01:52:04.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm about to say what you're You're gonna come combat

2006
01:52:04.119 --> 01:52:04.439
<v Speaker 3>me on this?

2007
01:52:04.680 --> 01:52:09.119
<v Speaker 5>Oh no, I'm like, if I have more in me

2008
01:52:09.239 --> 01:52:12.800
<v Speaker 5>than I thought, like, first off, okay, that's pretty cool.

2009
01:52:14.399 --> 01:52:19.359
<v Speaker 5>Second off, I am not pissed that, like potentially, however

2010
01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:22.079
<v Speaker 5>much I have in me, the tribe that I come

2011
01:52:22.159 --> 01:52:25.720
<v Speaker 5>from is like some survely bastards that like to like

2012
01:52:25.840 --> 01:52:30.039
<v Speaker 5>some warfare. That's just you know, shocking. I don't. I

2013
01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:31.479
<v Speaker 5>don't know how I ever came about that.

2014
01:52:31.680 --> 01:52:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Now, yeah, I don't know. I also got a little

2015
01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:37.079
<v Speaker 3>bit of hacksaw on me. We cut anything anyway, moving on.

2016
01:52:37.560 --> 01:52:41.720
<v Speaker 3>In the same way, traditional native foods are prepared, I

2017
01:52:41.800 --> 01:52:46.199
<v Speaker 3>couldn't resist. And this is dumb. It's funny. It's funny.

2018
01:52:47.119 --> 01:52:48.680
<v Speaker 5>You do you feel good about you?

2019
01:52:48.880 --> 01:52:49.039
<v Speaker 4>I do?

2020
01:52:49.359 --> 01:52:52.600
<v Speaker 5>I do? I actually I feel real good about yourself.

2021
01:52:52.920 --> 01:52:55.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, you gotta make the jokes when you can,

2022
01:52:55.600 --> 01:53:00.279
<v Speaker 3>you know. In the same way, traditional native food foods

2023
01:53:00.279 --> 01:53:08.119
<v Speaker 3>are prepared for this special occasion, salmon, wileye, shellfish, moose, venison, elk, mutton, geese, duck, rabbit,

2024
01:53:08.359 --> 01:53:13.560
<v Speaker 3>wild rice, collar, greens, squash, pine nuts, corn soup, red

2025
01:53:13.640 --> 01:53:17.479
<v Speaker 3>and green chili, stews, bread pudding, pueblo bread, peky bread,

2026
01:53:17.920 --> 01:53:22.319
<v Speaker 3>bannock or fry bread, tortillas, berries, roots, and native teas

2027
01:53:22.560 --> 01:53:24.560
<v Speaker 3>are just a few of That's not just a few,

2028
01:53:24.640 --> 01:53:27.399
<v Speaker 3>that's a whole list of the things that come to mind.

2029
01:53:27.720 --> 01:53:31.720
<v Speaker 3>Individual tribes and Indian organizations sponsor Christmas dinners for their

2030
01:53:31.800 --> 01:53:35.399
<v Speaker 3>elders and communities prior to Christmas. Tribal service groups and

2031
01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:39.039
<v Speaker 3>warrior societies visit retirement homes and shelters provide meals for

2032
01:53:39.159 --> 01:53:43.359
<v Speaker 3>their tribe members on Christmas day. Hell, yeah, that's awesome.

2033
01:53:43.760 --> 01:53:46.399
<v Speaker 3>Many tribes begin their Christmas meal by putting out a

2034
01:53:46.520 --> 01:53:51.319
<v Speaker 3>feast plate or spirit dish for loved ones who passed away.

2035
01:53:51.600 --> 01:53:54.279
<v Speaker 3>As a special Christmas day of feasting. A prayer is

2036
01:53:54.359 --> 01:53:57.319
<v Speaker 3>rendered and food offerings are placed outside of the home

2037
01:53:57.399 --> 01:54:00.239
<v Speaker 3>on a plate or in the sacred fire for relatives

2038
01:54:00.239 --> 01:54:02.880
<v Speaker 3>who are no longer with us. The respect is that

2039
01:54:02.960 --> 01:54:06.439
<v Speaker 3>you allow your remembrances those who have passed to eat first.

2040
01:54:07.159 --> 01:54:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Many are experience or yeah, many are experiencing their first

2041
01:54:10.680 --> 01:54:15.359
<v Speaker 3>Christmas without a loved one. Wow. Alternatively, some natives do

2042
01:54:15.439 --> 01:54:18.680
<v Speaker 3>not celebrate Christmas, but use this seasonal opportunity to celebrate

2043
01:54:18.720 --> 01:54:22.960
<v Speaker 3>the winter solstice. Yet others in northern plains are honoring

2044
01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:26.000
<v Speaker 3>their relatives with a memorial horse ride called Dakota thirty

2045
01:54:26.039 --> 01:54:29.720
<v Speaker 3>eight plus two. On December twenty sixth, eighteen sixty two,

2046
01:54:30.239 --> 01:54:34.319
<v Speaker 3>at Fort Snelling, Minnesota, in Dakota Country, thirty eight Dakota

2047
01:54:34.399 --> 01:54:37.960
<v Speaker 3>men were hung all at once. This Yeah, I remember

2048
01:54:38.039 --> 01:54:41.800
<v Speaker 3>reading about this. This is the largest recorded mass execution

2049
01:54:41.960 --> 01:54:46.439
<v Speaker 3>in US history. And how Some natives in the Minnesota,

2050
01:54:46.800 --> 01:54:51.039
<v Speaker 3>Mni Soda and the Dakotas observe this time of year

2051
01:54:51.520 --> 01:54:54.760
<v Speaker 3>each December tenth, riders set out to traverse three hundred

2052
01:54:54.760 --> 01:54:58.479
<v Speaker 3>and thirty miles between Lower Brulai South Dakota and conclude

2053
01:54:58.560 --> 01:55:04.520
<v Speaker 3>on December twenty sixth in monk Mankato, Minnesota. Okay, wow,

2054
01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:10.760
<v Speaker 3>so yeah, Abe Lincoln basically gave the go ahead on

2055
01:55:10.920 --> 01:55:16.039
<v Speaker 3>this mass execution in eighteen sixty two. There's some controversy

2056
01:55:16.079 --> 01:55:18.920
<v Speaker 3>around it, and I'm not you could look into it

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01:55:18.960 --> 01:55:21.840
<v Speaker 3>if anybody's curious, But yeah, these thirty eight men were

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01:55:22.720 --> 01:55:25.680
<v Speaker 3>mass hung all at the same time. There was actually

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01:55:25.680 --> 01:55:28.199
<v Speaker 3>special gallows that were made. Few hundred the.

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<v Speaker 5>Two hundred people were arrested and then he chose he

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01:55:31.399 --> 01:55:33.479
<v Speaker 5>picked like thirty eight out of the two hundred and

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01:55:33.680 --> 01:55:36.199
<v Speaker 5>eighteen or something like that. Yeah, and then those were

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01:55:36.199 --> 01:55:36.479
<v Speaker 5>the ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yep, yep, that's what I thought. We just talked

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01:55:38.800 --> 01:55:40.640
<v Speaker 3>about that a couple episodes ago. I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 5>That was on the Thanksgiving episode. Yep, marifion that so

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01:55:44.119 --> 01:55:47.239
<v Speaker 5>I was like, I know, this story I just interesting.

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01:55:47.720 --> 01:55:51.000
<v Speaker 5>It's really cool though, how they take everything to their

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01:55:51.079 --> 01:55:54.640
<v Speaker 5>elderly and the retirement homes, and I like that. I

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01:55:54.920 --> 01:55:58.680
<v Speaker 5>like all the other traditions of culture or cultures that

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01:55:59.039 --> 01:56:02.399
<v Speaker 5>celebrate their loved ones that have passed with setting out

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01:56:02.439 --> 01:56:05.560
<v Speaker 5>of food or setting a prayer, lighting candles or something

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01:56:05.600 --> 01:56:08.079
<v Speaker 5>like that. I've always thought that was such a wonderful

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01:56:08.760 --> 01:56:11.000
<v Speaker 5>thing to do and be able to remember your loved

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01:56:11.039 --> 01:56:12.239
<v Speaker 5>ones that were here at one point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, And I mean hell, even the veteran community

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01:56:15.520 --> 01:56:19.720
<v Speaker 3>does that, right If any any chowh or any veteran gathering,

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01:56:20.239 --> 01:56:24.000
<v Speaker 3>or or any veteran organizational gathering, you'll see the table

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01:56:24.079 --> 01:56:27.800
<v Speaker 3>set out, the lemon, the salt, the plate, the pow

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01:56:28.039 --> 01:56:30.520
<v Speaker 3>n I A like. That's that's the thing that a

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01:56:30.600 --> 01:56:34.800
<v Speaker 3>lot of cultures, specifically warrior cultures do to acknowledge those

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01:56:34.840 --> 01:56:36.960
<v Speaker 3>that are not with us. So I get down on

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01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:37.800
<v Speaker 3>the Catholics do that.

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01:56:38.279 --> 01:56:41.760
<v Speaker 5>No, No, the Christians don't either, don't they not?

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01:56:41.960 --> 01:56:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Really? Per Christian liturgy, you wouldn't set anything out for

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01:56:48.119 --> 01:56:50.279
<v Speaker 3>your loved one that's not there, because your loved one

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01:56:50.479 --> 01:56:52.800
<v Speaker 3>is seen to be in a better place where they

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01:56:52.880 --> 01:56:56.319
<v Speaker 3>have no want for food or drink or anything like that.

2089
01:56:57.640 --> 01:57:01.640
<v Speaker 3>But again, talking about war your cultures and societies like this,

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01:57:02.039 --> 01:57:05.279
<v Speaker 3>or those that honor the spirits of their loved ones

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01:57:05.319 --> 01:57:08.800
<v Speaker 3>that have passed, it's a thing that you'll see for sure.

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01:57:10.520 --> 01:57:10.960
<v Speaker 5>Interesting.

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01:57:11.640 --> 01:57:15.760
<v Speaker 3>According to the Urban Indian Health Commission, nearly seven out

2094
01:57:15.760 --> 01:57:19.039
<v Speaker 3>of every ten American Indians and Alaska Natives. I don't

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01:57:19.039 --> 01:57:21.199
<v Speaker 3>know why they would put those as different things, but okay,

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01:57:22.359 --> 01:57:25.359
<v Speaker 3>two point eight million people live in or near cities

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01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:28.640
<v Speaker 3>that and that number is growing. During the Christmas holidays,

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01:57:28.680 --> 01:57:31.640
<v Speaker 3>many urban Natives travel back to their families, reservations, and

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01:57:31.720 --> 01:57:36.439
<v Speaker 3>communities to reconnect and reaffirm tribal bonds. They open presents

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01:57:36.479 --> 01:57:39.119
<v Speaker 3>and have big family meals like any other American Christian.

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01:57:39.720 --> 01:57:42.039
<v Speaker 3>This year we ask our native friends how important is

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01:57:42.159 --> 01:57:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Christmas to you? Here are some answers preceded by the

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01:57:44.680 --> 01:57:47.439
<v Speaker 3>locations that they were submitted from net.

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<v Speaker 5>So this is what I was talking about. So this

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01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:54.039
<v Speaker 5>talks about it's people from different parts of the country

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01:57:54.119 --> 01:57:57.199
<v Speaker 5>and they kind of just share light of if they

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01:57:57.880 --> 01:57:59.800
<v Speaker 5>celebrate or not. I don't know if you really want

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01:57:59.840 --> 01:58:02.399
<v Speaker 5>to read into that, but it's just different places that

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01:58:02.560 --> 01:58:05.640
<v Speaker 5>kind of Some of them say that family is important,

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01:58:05.760 --> 01:58:07.720
<v Speaker 5>some of them say that they don't celebrate at all.

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01:58:07.880 --> 01:58:10.159
<v Speaker 5>Some of them say that Christmas is for the children.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it just depends on where it's at. So

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<v Speaker 5>that's kind of the end of what I was going

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<v Speaker 5>to put on that article.

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01:58:17.039 --> 01:58:18.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I mean we don't really have to dig into

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01:58:18.920 --> 01:58:20.239
<v Speaker 3>it if you don't want to, but I mean it

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01:58:20.640 --> 01:58:21.000
<v Speaker 3>does go.

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01:58:22.039 --> 01:58:24.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean you can. It's just it's just different

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01:58:24.600 --> 01:58:27.960
<v Speaker 5>people talking about their different family experiences. It's not like

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01:58:28.039 --> 01:58:30.399
<v Speaker 5>speaking for the entire tribe of each location.

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01:58:31.600 --> 01:58:32.359
<v Speaker 4>So yeah.

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01:58:32.920 --> 01:58:35.720
<v Speaker 3>And I guess that's also they'd be like asking a

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01:58:35.800 --> 01:58:40.119
<v Speaker 3>group of you know, people from all over the country

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01:58:40.199 --> 01:58:42.640
<v Speaker 3>how they celebrate Christmas. You're going to get a wide

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01:58:42.720 --> 01:58:43.199
<v Speaker 3>variety of.

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01:58:43.239 --> 01:58:48.399
<v Speaker 5>Answers, right, I mean, hell, like as one street just

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01:58:49.279 --> 01:58:52.760
<v Speaker 5>just in town, like in a subdivision, as one single street,

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01:58:53.079 --> 01:58:56.479
<v Speaker 5>how do you celebrate Christmas? Every single person is going

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01:58:56.600 --> 01:58:57.800
<v Speaker 5>to say something different.

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01:58:58.119 --> 01:59:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I guess it's really good living test of

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01:59:01.159 --> 01:59:04.279
<v Speaker 3>how Native tribesmen celebrate.

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01:59:04.159 --> 01:59:05.720
<v Speaker 5>Its kind of why. I just you know, it's just

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01:59:05.960 --> 01:59:08.640
<v Speaker 5>there's people that are like one reservation is in Idaho,

2134
01:59:08.840 --> 01:59:12.319
<v Speaker 5>ones in like Colorado, and it's just one particular person's

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01:59:12.479 --> 01:59:15.399
<v Speaker 5>opinion on it. And I just felt like it wasn't

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01:59:15.439 --> 01:59:18.720
<v Speaker 5>really representing each tribe into the fullest.

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01:59:18.840 --> 01:59:21.000
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, And it's it's not like that it says

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01:59:21.199 --> 01:59:23.279
<v Speaker 3>like if this person holds some sort of position of

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01:59:23.359 --> 01:59:25.079
<v Speaker 3>power within the tribe or on the rest.

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01:59:25.119 --> 01:59:29.199
<v Speaker 5>Just random people that submitted their their knowledge in Yeah yeah,

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01:59:29.279 --> 01:59:29.479
<v Speaker 5>so we.

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01:59:29.479 --> 01:59:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Could bypass that all right, So now we are going

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01:59:31.840 --> 01:59:36.159
<v Speaker 3>to shift over to Native News online warrior journalism defending

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01:59:36.319 --> 01:59:41.079
<v Speaker 3>tribal sovereignty. Hell yeah, Okay, the winter Solstice begins a

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01:59:41.239 --> 01:59:44.880
<v Speaker 3>season of storytelling and ceremony. Okay.

2146
01:59:45.319 --> 01:59:48.840
<v Speaker 5>At this website has so much good information and a

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01:59:48.960 --> 01:59:54.199
<v Speaker 5>lot of good articles about Native American practices, about their culture,

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01:59:54.319 --> 01:59:55.520
<v Speaker 5>what's happening with them right.

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01:59:55.479 --> 01:59:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Now, what they've been through.

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01:59:58.039 --> 02:00:00.560
<v Speaker 5>It's really a very informative website.

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02:00:01.520 --> 02:00:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, I like it. So in the northern hemisphere,

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02:00:05.760 --> 02:00:08.920
<v Speaker 3>December twenty first will be the year's day of least sunlight,

2153
02:00:09.279 --> 02:00:12.039
<v Speaker 3>when the sun takes its lowest, shortest path across the

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02:00:12.079 --> 02:00:15.119
<v Speaker 3>sky north of the Arctic Circle. It will be the

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02:00:15.239 --> 02:00:18.720
<v Speaker 3>midpoint of the period of darkness when even twilight doesn't

2156
02:00:18.760 --> 02:00:22.319
<v Speaker 3>reach the horizon as we did before the solar eclipse

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02:00:22.359 --> 02:00:24.840
<v Speaker 3>in August. This December, we ask our Native friends to

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02:00:24.920 --> 02:00:29.000
<v Speaker 3>share traditions they've heard about Winter Solstice. Their answers highlight

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02:00:29.119 --> 02:00:32.239
<v Speaker 3>winter as a time of storytelling. Interesting, So this is

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<v Speaker 3>actually written from what I could tell in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is from the Ajibwe, Minnesota Chippewa Chippewa tribe. Yeah.

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02:00:40.560 --> 02:00:43.640
<v Speaker 3>This description of winter in many Native communities was prepared

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02:00:43.840 --> 02:00:46.800
<v Speaker 3>by the Indian Land Tenure Foundation Lessons of Our Land

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02:00:46.880 --> 02:00:50.439
<v Speaker 3>as background for teachers. Very good. Like many events in

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02:00:50.479 --> 02:00:53.840
<v Speaker 3>American Indian culture, there is a proper time and place

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02:00:53.880 --> 02:00:57.279
<v Speaker 3>for all activities. Traditional storytelling is reserved for the winter

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02:00:57.439 --> 02:01:00.760
<v Speaker 3>months for many tribes. This was a practice choice given

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that during the other seasons people were busy growing, gathering,

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02:01:03.840 --> 02:01:06.439
<v Speaker 3>and hunting food. It was in the winter, with the

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02:01:06.600 --> 02:01:09.840
<v Speaker 3>long dark evenings, the snow and wind blowing outside, that

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02:01:10.000 --> 02:01:13.199
<v Speaker 3>telling stories was a way to entertain and teach the children.

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02:01:13.640 --> 02:01:17.159
<v Speaker 3>Another reason is that many traditional stories contain animal characters.

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02:01:17.479 --> 02:01:20.199
<v Speaker 3>To be respectful, people waited until the winter when the

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02:01:20.279 --> 02:01:23.159
<v Speaker 3>animals hibernate or become less active, so they cannot hear

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02:01:23.199 --> 02:01:24.560
<v Speaker 3>themselves being talked about.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, hell yeah, I thought that was super cute. I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, man, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I get it, especially if they A lot

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02:01:31.640 --> 02:01:34.439
<v Speaker 3>of the Native tribes believe that their language is something

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<v Speaker 3>that resonates with the animals, So you want to be

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02:01:37.720 --> 02:01:40.960
<v Speaker 3>talking about the bear when the bear is out and about.

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<v Speaker 5>Right numbers like okay, thanks.

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02:01:43.800 --> 02:01:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Now as you're talking about like wind howling and blowing outside,

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02:01:48.000 --> 02:01:50.800
<v Speaker 5>the wind is blowing so strong right now? Is it

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<v Speaker 5>at night?

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<v Speaker 6>It is?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So it's like it's past midnight here for us,

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02:01:55.199 --> 02:01:59.600
<v Speaker 5>and it is howling like it sounds like wolves outside.

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02:02:00.880 --> 02:02:02.720
<v Speaker 5>I keep thinking it's going to get picked up on

2191
02:02:02.920 --> 02:02:06.520
<v Speaker 5>the on the microphone because it's so loud. I was like,

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02:02:06.760 --> 02:02:09.920
<v Speaker 5>is there a draft somewhere in my house? Is that far?

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02:02:10.039 --> 02:02:10.359
<v Speaker 3>So good?

2194
02:02:10.880 --> 02:02:14.000
<v Speaker 5>As as we're sitting here doing that, I was just like, man,

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02:02:14.119 --> 02:02:16.399
<v Speaker 5>it is it is howlin outside for sure.

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02:02:16.880 --> 02:02:20.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it'd be like that. So anyway, continuing, it says

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02:02:20.439 --> 02:02:22.800
<v Speaker 3>to have a storyteller tell you a story is like

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02:02:22.840 --> 02:02:26.119
<v Speaker 3>receiving a gift. To be respectful, a gift of tobacco

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02:02:26.399 --> 02:02:30.279
<v Speaker 3>is offered to the storyteller before the story begins. Good good.

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02:02:30.640 --> 02:02:33.279
<v Speaker 3>The storyteller will often take the tobacco outside and place

2201
02:02:33.319 --> 02:02:36.840
<v Speaker 3>it on the earth as an offering to the spirits

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02:02:36.880 --> 02:02:39.079
<v Speaker 3>of the story. Now where I thought that next part

2203
02:02:39.199 --> 02:02:41.680
<v Speaker 3>was going? But all right, fair enough, you know, save

2204
02:02:41.720 --> 02:02:43.279
<v Speaker 3>the lungs for other things.

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02:02:43.880 --> 02:02:45.640
<v Speaker 5>You want me to read these ones if you would

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02:02:45.720 --> 02:02:50.520
<v Speaker 5>like to, Okay, seeing Carlos Apache, Arizona. This reminds me

2207
02:02:50.600 --> 02:02:53.399
<v Speaker 5>when I was young, my grandfather would ask a really

2208
02:02:53.520 --> 02:02:57.520
<v Speaker 5>old man to come to come visit. We would eat dinner,

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02:02:57.720 --> 02:03:01.359
<v Speaker 5>they would visit, smoke, and then my grandpa would bundle bundle,

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02:03:02.000 --> 02:03:04.399
<v Speaker 5>would put a bundle on his feet. Soon he would

2211
02:03:04.479 --> 02:03:06.960
<v Speaker 5>start to telling stories most of the night.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good. I like that one.

2213
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<v Speaker 5>Now, so Chunk Nation of Wisconsin is the next one.

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02:03:14.000 --> 02:03:17.000
<v Speaker 5>We have to wait for the winter moon and there

2215
02:03:17.479 --> 02:03:20.000
<v Speaker 5>has to be snow on the mother Earth for those stories.

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02:03:21.000 --> 02:03:22.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh, very cool.

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02:03:22.680 --> 02:03:25.119
<v Speaker 5>Yes, they actually have to wait and tell snow is

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02:03:25.239 --> 02:03:31.159
<v Speaker 5>happening before they can even start their stories. Blackfoot, Blackfoot, Calgary, Alberta.

2219
02:03:31.840 --> 02:03:33.000
<v Speaker 5>People come from Alberta.

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02:03:33.319 --> 02:03:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Your people come from very cold climb as you got

2221
02:03:35.800 --> 02:03:40.479
<v Speaker 3>Norway and Alberta, and then you'll ended up in Louisiana.

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02:03:41.159 --> 02:03:43.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, well, I am French too, like a

2223
02:03:43.960 --> 02:03:47.079
<v Speaker 5>good amount of French. So Francis are the same with

2224
02:03:47.199 --> 02:03:49.159
<v Speaker 5>snow and stories. That's all it says.

2225
02:03:50.119 --> 02:03:53.439
<v Speaker 3>Basically, they wait until there's snow on the ground before

2226
02:03:53.520 --> 02:03:55.359
<v Speaker 3>they sit around the fire and listen to the old

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02:03:55.399 --> 02:03:56.319
<v Speaker 3>man tell the stories.

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<v Speaker 5>Very cool. I'm gonna butcher that Omakumakuma Coma, Cuma Pablo Pueblo,

2229
02:04:04.279 --> 02:04:09.319
<v Speaker 5>New Mexico Pueblo. Yeah, the winter solstice marks the new

2230
02:04:09.399 --> 02:04:15.840
<v Speaker 5>year in Kuma at the time mark at the time

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02:04:15.920 --> 02:04:19.479
<v Speaker 5>with ceremonies not privy to the public. It is also

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02:04:19.600 --> 02:04:28.039
<v Speaker 5>the time for hama ha ha hamaha ha ha maha maha. Okay,

2233
02:04:28.520 --> 02:04:32.119
<v Speaker 5>storytelling of the coyote, stories of heroes, stories of animals,

2234
02:04:32.199 --> 02:04:35.119
<v Speaker 5>sharing of knowledge. My parents said that when you call

2235
02:04:35.640 --> 02:04:43.399
<v Speaker 5>Hamama hama maha, people will arrive with pinon pignon nuts

2236
02:04:43.479 --> 02:04:46.239
<v Speaker 5>gathered in the fall that are roasted and shared.

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02:04:47.199 --> 02:04:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Interesting, So the whole chestnuts roasting on an open fire.

2238
02:04:50.359 --> 02:04:54.239
<v Speaker 3>Bit that that has its own, you know, thing through

2239
02:04:54.359 --> 02:04:56.680
<v Speaker 3>the through the customs and cultures, which I mean to

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<v Speaker 3>be fair nuts are more of a wintertime thing. So

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02:04:59.840 --> 02:05:01.840
<v Speaker 3>so that makes sense. Okay.

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02:05:02.079 --> 02:05:07.399
<v Speaker 5>So we have oh man, that is that is a word?

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02:05:07.840 --> 02:05:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Hamaha? Oh oh the pass yep passamaquote.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a New England tribe. I'm not gonna lie to

2245
02:05:17.920 --> 02:05:20.760
<v Speaker 5>you being dyslexic and then trying to actually read some

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02:05:20.840 --> 02:05:21.439
<v Speaker 5>of these words.

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02:05:21.479 --> 02:05:23.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, oh, there's no way you could be

2248
02:05:23.600 --> 02:05:27.159
<v Speaker 3>dyslexic and read the native tribes names. That's impossible.

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02:05:27.239 --> 02:05:29.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm kind of like

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02:05:29.279 --> 02:05:31.039
<v Speaker 5>shoe is it is.

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<v Speaker 3>A all right, So this is the passa Macati out

2252
02:05:36.000 --> 02:05:38.159
<v Speaker 3>of New England. I hope I said that right.

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<v Speaker 5>In traditional calendars in Northeast, the solstice is always marked

2254
02:05:43.199 --> 02:05:47.239
<v Speaker 5>for my folks. It's a sign that the frost Yep,

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02:05:47.279 --> 02:05:51.479
<v Speaker 5>we gotta gotta do the page turn. Yeah, the frost

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02:05:51.640 --> 02:05:56.119
<v Speaker 5>giants will be returning to the north. Especially pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>The New England native tribes have frost giants in their low.

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02:06:00.520 --> 02:06:02.800
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea. I thought that was specifically a

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02:06:02.880 --> 02:06:03.439
<v Speaker 3>Nordic thing.

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<v Speaker 5>H I didn't actually know that either. But you remember

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02:06:07.760 --> 02:06:10.119
<v Speaker 5>right that the Vikings were the first ones to make

2262
02:06:10.239 --> 02:06:13.760
<v Speaker 5>contact with tribes here in North America.

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02:06:14.039 --> 02:06:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that was in Canada.

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02:06:16.159 --> 02:06:19.159
<v Speaker 5>No, but the but they landed in Canada and they

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<v Speaker 5>came down into America, damn, near like halfway to Virginia.

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<v Speaker 5>They found remains of settlements and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Very true.

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<v Speaker 5>It could be that they actually cross cultures and they

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<v Speaker 5>had some you know, traditions potentially bleed over.

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<v Speaker 3>Very possible. Okay, let's see.

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<v Speaker 5>The I'm gonna let you do that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Asiny Boyne sue the Sioux tribe I know of.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know like what clan that is. So that

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<v Speaker 3>a boy as Sydney boyne blonde, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 5>We just be butchering everything tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>The Sioux tribe of South Dakota. Here we go, go ahead,

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02:07:00.439 --> 02:07:04.640
<v Speaker 3>the wanna yet to or winter time for gathering ken

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<v Speaker 3>sassa or red willow bark while the thunder is gone.

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<v Speaker 5>Interesting, Okay, wintertime for gathering the red willow bark while

2280
02:07:16.880 --> 02:07:18.079
<v Speaker 5>the thunder is gone.

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<v Speaker 3>So they gather the red willow bark during the winter.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why specifically that, but that is a

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<v Speaker 3>thing for this.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll have to look into that more, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So now this is the seal Selks s y I

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<v Speaker 3>l X Silks Okay, Washington State and British Columbia. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you want to read this one or me?

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<v Speaker 5>What I know is that it marks the point in

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02:07:48.119 --> 02:07:51.680
<v Speaker 5>time when our winter ceremonies can be held. My grandmother

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02:07:51.840 --> 02:07:55.479
<v Speaker 5>sometimes held her first ceremony of the winter at this

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02:07:55.720 --> 02:07:59.680
<v Speaker 5>powerful time. We have winter dance, ceremonies, prayers for the

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02:07:59.760 --> 02:08:03.439
<v Speaker 5>new year to come, for the berries roots, four leggeds,

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02:08:04.079 --> 02:08:07.600
<v Speaker 5>four legs, four leggeds, like yeah, four leggeds. I was

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<v Speaker 5>right the first time, okay, and the fish, the four

2295
02:08:10.640 --> 02:08:16.239
<v Speaker 5>food chiefs, prayers for our families and ourselves. There are songs, dancing, feasting,

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02:08:16.359 --> 02:08:19.439
<v Speaker 5>and giveaways. This is held during the evening and can

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02:08:19.520 --> 02:08:22.319
<v Speaker 5>go all night depending on the number of sacred singers

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02:08:22.640 --> 02:08:26.680
<v Speaker 5>who come to share. The ceremonies are called winter dances

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<v Speaker 5>or my grandfather also called them Chinook dances in our

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<v Speaker 5>territory to the south, in Washington State aroundnessipline discipline. My

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<v Speaker 5>grandfather told me one dance ceremony lasting ten nights in

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<v Speaker 5>a row. Yo, that's pretty intense.

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<v Speaker 3>They'd be getting down ten nights of ceremony just for

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02:08:51.319 --> 02:08:54.840
<v Speaker 3>one dance ceremony. All right, Yeah, so I like to

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02:08:54.920 --> 02:08:55.720
<v Speaker 3>throw down, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 5>I did have a quick one though. From the Apache culture,

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<v Speaker 5>marking the time of renewal and return of the light

2308
02:09:04.840 --> 02:09:08.880
<v Speaker 5>missed during the season often features stories of survival, of importance,

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02:09:09.640 --> 02:09:12.960
<v Speaker 5>and gathering as a community to share resources and knowledge.

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<v Speaker 5>Traditions during the wintertime include storytelling sessions to be passed

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<v Speaker 5>down with wisdom and knowledge, ceremonies to honor ancestors and

2312
02:09:22.199 --> 02:09:25.640
<v Speaker 5>reflect on the past year, community gatherings to strengthen the

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02:09:25.760 --> 02:09:31.319
<v Speaker 5>bonds and celebrate one another and reinforce the idea of

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<v Speaker 5>winter while the time is a time of rest and

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02:09:34.880 --> 02:09:37.640
<v Speaker 5>also a critical part of the seasonal cycle that prepares

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02:09:37.680 --> 02:09:40.720
<v Speaker 5>the community for renewal of the spring. So there's a

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02:09:40.760 --> 02:09:43.000
<v Speaker 5>lot of different tribes and stuff. You have to go

2318
02:09:43.119 --> 02:09:45.760
<v Speaker 5>to each tribe to break down what they actually believe in,

2319
02:09:45.920 --> 02:09:48.159
<v Speaker 5>what they do, and things like that. But I kind

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<v Speaker 5>of just wanted to briefly touch on Native Americans just

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<v Speaker 5>because they you know, because we were talking about a

2322
02:09:54.920 --> 02:09:57.279
<v Speaker 5>Black holiday as well, and so I wanted to kind

2323
02:09:57.319 --> 02:09:58.920
<v Speaker 5>of touch on other American holidays.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely is a inherently American holiday. As a matter of fact,

2325
02:10:04.039 --> 02:10:07.199
<v Speaker 3>I only found a few scant sources to find that

2326
02:10:07.319 --> 02:10:10.479
<v Speaker 3>anybody in Canada was celebrating it. So I don't know,

2327
02:10:10.880 --> 02:10:14.920
<v Speaker 3>perhaps it's gone more international. I can't find anything to

2328
02:10:15.000 --> 02:10:17.479
<v Speaker 3>say so, But because we were talking about, you know,

2329
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<v Speaker 3>tis the season, and in this week we're gonna be

2330
02:10:19.560 --> 02:10:21.640
<v Speaker 3>talking about a lot of different holidays and celebrations from

2331
02:10:21.680 --> 02:10:24.159
<v Speaker 3>around the world, Kwansa being an American one, we did

2332
02:10:24.279 --> 02:10:27.199
<v Speaker 3>want to take a moment to acknowledge Native American customs

2333
02:10:27.239 --> 02:10:30.560
<v Speaker 3>and cultures, some surrounding Christmas, some surrounding just the winter

2334
02:10:31.119 --> 02:10:34.920
<v Speaker 3>solstices and this time of year in general. Tomorrow's episode

2335
02:10:34.960 --> 02:10:36.880
<v Speaker 3>we are going to be talking into more of the

2336
02:10:37.039 --> 02:10:41.279
<v Speaker 3>obscure celebrations and things of the customs and cultures and

2337
02:10:41.359 --> 02:10:44.079
<v Speaker 3>things and stuff. So I find this to be a

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02:10:44.159 --> 02:10:46.520
<v Speaker 3>good transitional episode, Like.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really excited about that. That's like the one I'm

2340
02:10:49.159 --> 02:10:52.159
<v Speaker 5>looking forward to the absolute most. Oh yeah, because there's

2341
02:10:52.199 --> 02:10:56.720
<v Speaker 5>a lot of different celebration There's some that are really

2342
02:10:57.000 --> 02:11:00.479
<v Speaker 5>there's like fifteen of them that are pretty bizarre. But

2343
02:11:00.600 --> 02:11:04.960
<v Speaker 5>there is a lot of different cultures that celebrate Christmas

2344
02:11:05.039 --> 02:11:09.039
<v Speaker 5>in different ways or winter Solstice, and they obviously have

2345
02:11:09.239 --> 02:11:11.399
<v Speaker 5>changed through the times. So I was really pumped to

2346
02:11:11.439 --> 02:11:15.159
<v Speaker 5>get into that history and different cultures and stuff like

2347
02:11:15.239 --> 02:11:17.600
<v Speaker 5>that in the backgrounds and so yeah, this is a

2348
02:11:17.640 --> 02:11:20.199
<v Speaker 5>good segue to go. You know, Native American tribes will

2349
02:11:20.199 --> 02:11:24.119
<v Speaker 5>be mentioned, probably as most likely, but there's definitely a

2350
02:11:24.279 --> 02:11:29.960
<v Speaker 5>lot of interesting historical backgrounds into the quote unquote Christmas.

2351
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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, So as we wrap up this episode, good cult

2352
02:11:33.600 --> 02:11:36.840
<v Speaker 3>members or talking about gift giving, multiple tribes, multiple cultures,

2353
02:11:36.880 --> 02:11:39.079
<v Speaker 3>hell even Kwanza and if you would like to get

2354
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<v Speaker 3>your family member a good gift. Silver and gold is

2355
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<v Speaker 3>a really good gift as well as a good investment

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<v Speaker 3>to give your loved ones or yourself. And the best

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<v Speaker 3>place to get your starting the buying and selling of

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<v Speaker 3>gold and silver, boy, you would be to go to

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, it is a good investment. To your

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<v Speaker 3>financial advisor, your account in your CPA, who's ever handling

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<v Speaker 3>your retirement and ask them if they think that this

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<v Speaker 3>is a wise investment. I promise you they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you at least a portion of your retirement portfolio

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<v Speaker 3>needs to be invested in precious metals. Right now, silver

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<v Speaker 3>is over sixty dollars an ounce. When we started this

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<v Speaker 3>sponsorship with the seven K Company, it was a little

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<v Speaker 3>over thirty dollars an ounce. In one year, it's doubled

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<v Speaker 3>in price. That's only going to continue to go up

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<v Speaker 3>because that's the way this goes. While it's still affordable.

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<v Speaker 3>Get some for yourself. Cocsilver dot Com is the best

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<v Speaker 3>like we are, learning about the libations that you might

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<v Speaker 3>have during Kwanza, or perhaps the tobacco that is being

2377
02:12:41.199 --> 02:12:44.039
<v Speaker 3>handed over in some of these native tries for these stories.

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<v Speaker 3>about this episode. What do you think about Kwanza, What

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<v Speaker 3>do you think about some of these native tribes? What

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<v Speaker 5>The rest of you.

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<v Speaker 3>thank you. Everybody's already gone done so. With all of

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<v Speaker 3>this being said, good cult members, hamar Ghane, Happy holidays,

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<v Speaker 3>Merry Christmas. And this was another Buke episode of the

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<v Speaker 5>And I am the Cage of Night amazingly, and there's

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