Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly
video game show here at Geekbursus. I'm your host el.
Mustnt with me the field of Fields, Taylor, mother freaking field.
How's it going, my friend, It's going pretty good.
Speaker 2: You know, just fliming the dream day by day, second
by second.
Speaker 1: That's that's a great way to live on. I'm so
happy for you. That's amazing. Yeah, I'm excited for this episode.
It's it's gonna be kind of a laid back show.
One like for the first week in like two months,
we don't have like a random Nintendo direct that popped
up very little in the news cycle, so we just
kind of to go back to the bag, the endless
bag of topics and what I wanted to do for
all you, Travis en Kirkland just so happens that year
here today is to really go through your guys, like
gaming history from start to finish, your first you know,
the first game, first colls you ever played, and kind
of just follow through the eras like the big landmark
moments and your gaming career leading up to today all
these years later. So that's what we'll get to a
little bit later on. But first something that came up
during our Patreon exclusive episode of our Top ten and
game ranking of all Time, which actually you can hear
a bit of that on the side quest feed. There's
a little preview I put up there. You had brought
up Stronghold. I believe it's specifically Stronghold Crusader, right, mm hmm, yeah,
which is which is you know, one of one of
your favorite games, a game that you really enjoy, have
lot of installed it for. And then I was like, Okay,
let's let's bookmark that because I want to talk about
Stronghold at some point in the future, and now is
the time to do that because I have I have
a very short history with Stronghold, nothing like you, but
I I feel like it is such a random, niche
game that I wanted to bring it up again because
back in the day, I think it was Stronghold Too,
was a PC game that just happened at my happen
to be at my house. I don't know where it
came from. I don't remember like being at the store
and be like, hey, mom and dad, can you buy
this for me? So it was just one one day
Strong Old was at my house, stuck it in the
family computer and downloaded it, booted it up, but then
after like ten fifteen minutes or something, it it would crash,
boot it up again, crash. Uh you know, uninstall, reinstall,
try again tomorrow, you know, plug this thing in backwards,
do all all the stuff, and it could just it
was just never working. It would work for like maybe
twenty minutes and then it would crash. And so it
was kind of like, oh man, this is like perfect.
I feel like in that era. I love Lord of
the Rings and you know, Fable and Elder scrolls and stuff,
so I have like a fantasy kind of medieval or
I guess more medieval setting like game that kind of
looked like roller Coaster Tycoon. I was just another thing
I played back in the back in that day. I
was like, oh man, I really really want to play this.
And then this specific memory I have is one one
fateful night after trying to play this game for hours
and it not working. I went to bed, woke up
the next morning, and my dad was like, oh, actually
I got the game to work for like two hours straight.
I just played like a bunch last night, and I
was like no, and it was never able to replicate that.
So it was like a one time fluke, and I
don't know, maybe he lied to me. That's possible too,
because he's not really a gamer, so I'm kind of
surprised that he would have sat there and played for
so long. But anyway, that is my very short history
of Stronghold. And it's like, now, I'm sure all these
games are on Steam and they would definitely work on
my computer and I could go back and cross that off,
and so it feels like a white whale and I
kind of just I just forget that it exists. And
so that's why I was so glad when you brought
it up on that episode. But yeah, Stronghold, is that
like have you played other other games or was it
just Crusader that was kind of the one for you?
And have you played two specifically?
Speaker 2: Do you know that I have played two? I also
did run into issues with that game, so I.
Speaker 1: Never wonderful, never super poorly optimized or something.
Speaker 2: It had problems. It had a lot of problems. But
for me, the first my first foot in the door
was the original Stronghold and that was when I was
back in like grade six five, two thousand and six period,
and I remember my going to my friend's house he
was playing on computer. I thought this game was just
so much fun, and we just went into the map
editor mode and we take turns. I would do one thing,
he would do one thing, and that said, okay, you
got your units, his units, and we would just take
turns clicking and doing like versus battles. It was so
much fun.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: And so when my elementary school did a huge garage
sale for the community in the gym, and I was
walking around there with my mom and I saw someone
selling Stronghold for PC for like three bucks, Like, oh
my gosh, okay, this is my chance to own it.
So bought it and then put it on my dad's
computer and play the daylights out of it. And it's
just one of those games where you have a really
fun storyline campaign that you can play, and then you've
got just like builder mode where build your castle in
this area, and then if you want, like you can
I guess role play would be kind of it. You
can set up certain things, and I'm I'm a huge
sucker for creating scenarios, scenario based gameplay where I can
set up certain things and I can play out certain things.
I really enjoy doing that, especially with RTS games, and
so in here, while you build your castle and build
all your units, build your farm, your lands, whatever, then
you can I think it was like f one, you
hit that and it pops up this menu where you
can choose what you can customize the invading army that appears.
You can have a plague hit your your community, you
can have like all these different things hit like and
it just it makes the role playing that much more fun.
And so when I would like maximize it be like
at peak Kingdom tier or whatever, I would just hit
myself with plague and famine and all this stuff and
then just all the odds against me. And so that's
that's where it kind of like hit. And then when
I discovered Strong Crusader a Walmart for eight bucks, like
three years later, it's like this is even crazier because
they've got a whole new roster of villains or characters
that you can verse, a whole bunch of new units,
which was just awesome, so much fun, and just it
was just that's the one where Okay, my friends in
high school we're playing it. We're reversing each other now
and like online, like it was just such a whole
new dynamic and those two stand the test of time.
Those are still really really played now. I would say
even though they've done Stronghold three, Stronghold Legends, Stronghold Warlords,
the roster goes on for different Stronghold games, but it
just doesn't compare to the Stronghold the Crusader.
Speaker 1: I forget if we talked about this on the episode
the Top ten one, like did did we talk about
the fact that because I was just looking up and like,
Stronghold Crusader got like a definitive edition literally this year
that that came out.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we talked about it, but yeah,
it got I have to I want to see and
look at everything that's included with that. Because Crusaders had
a few versions. It had like Strong Crusader HD, then
Extreme Edition came out, and so they've had a few,
but the definitive edition because Warlords came out this year too.
I think maybe it was last year, but yeah, this
a creative what does that include?
Speaker 1: I wonder, let's see, yeah, take it take again from that.
But I love what you're talking about there of just
like I don't know that like that Sandbox Nature doing
that freedom, they habituality to like spawn, which any means
it's almost like you're designing a little game, right, Like
I feel like that's like you know, you know kids
first like game design course or something, which is really
cool to come up with scenarios like that. I feel
like I would do that in games back in the
day where it didn't even have those mechanics where you
can like send a plaguer yourself. I would just like
picture things or imagine things or pretend that those things
are happening. So that kind of feels like the ultimate
fantasy for especially what I would have been into that
age too, of just like oh, I can just build
up like a huge Lord of Rings castle and like
simulate the Battle of Helm's Deep or whatever and like
just get super creative with it and all these things. Uh,
So that freedom is is really cool, and I can't
think of another game that has like that level of freedom.
You know, there's like making scenarios and things like that,
I guess, but to make it like easy where you
literally have to click one button and then can like
spawn in these things, like that's that's really cool, especially
back then.
Speaker 2: It's Yeah, again, there's there's so many cool things that
Crusader was able to bring. Looking at what they've they
have here, I'm just flabberg acid because like Stronghold, like
I can't stress enough Stronghold is a huge part of
my gaming career, my legacy as a gamer, and just
looking at it out, they've added a whole bunch of
new units, which is like, excuse me, I did not
know this was.
Speaker 1: Like, were those from an expansion back in the air,
Like they're just these are.
Speaker 2: New, these are brand new, brand new. They got guys
on camels now new like combat units like this is
absolutely sick. And they added new Ai lords. So one
of the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: Good reviews for the Definite Division two, which is always
a good sign.
Speaker 2: I think I might I might have to pick that
up because that's what's just sold me right there, the
new units alone, because.
Speaker 1: Like twenty five bucks not too bad for like a
new bad not bad at all.
Speaker 2: Like the original Stronghold, you get the medieval based units
like nights nights on horseback, archers, pikeman, spearman, maceman, that
kind of stuff, crossbowman. When you get to Crusader, it
got really exciting because then you have those original characters
or units you can bring in, but then all of
a sudden it's expanded. You got horse archers, you got assassins,
you got Arabic so like knights. You got all these
new characters that they threw in there, which is really exciting.
So to see this this is this is huge. And
the Ai lords too, they make up such a huge
component of the game. Again with Stronghold one, you got
the wolf, the pig, the rat, and then you get
and the snake, and then in Crusader you've got like
the scorpion, and you've got the like saladein like Richard Lyonhart.
You got all these characters and they all have very
unique combat tactics that they employ and combat like defensive
maneuvers too, and unique castle designs, and some of them
are just such a pain to take on. But again
here they've added new freakin' a like characters, Like this
is just so exciting, And.
Speaker 1: I love that they kind of kept that original style,
like it still looks like roller coaster tacooon like in
terms of that art style, rather than like turning it
into three D, which I know other games in the
series had, and I think like a Stronghold two is
like three D graphics, which is probably why it couldn't
run on my computer back in the day. But it's
just like that, but like glossed up they have like
in the Steam page, like a here's what the market
or baz Are whatever would have been called looks like
in the original, here's what it looks like now. And
it's like, oh yeah, it's just kind of spruced up
a little more detail, a little more like shadows and
depth to it, but like it's still kind of has
that two D like ice I guess more isometric style.
So uh man, that's super cool. I hope, I hope
I have kind of by bringing this up, I've convinced
you buy this because I want to hear your thoughts
on this and maybe pick it up myself and get
into it as well.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm beyond like ecstatic to this, Like I I
honestly did not know the Definitive Edition was actually a thing.
I just thought it was just another version of.
Speaker 1: Crusaders, So sure, yeah, great. And I guess because like
back then, were you able to do online play with
your friends or or was it only like that kind
of as you mentioned where you were just kind of
you and your friend will one piece. He would be
a messing around.
Speaker 2: I think the original Stronghold didn't have it. Stronghold Crusader did.
It had the ability to go online and connect in lobbies,
but it was extremely broken. So what you had to
do was there's a program called game Ranger, which a
lot of people use it for Age of Mythology connecting online.
A lot of people used it for several different online games,
and what game Ranger does is create a server that
you can connect and play multiplayer battles with. So here
I am. I get on game Ranger, and my friends
would get on a game Ranger, and then we'd be
able to connect in stronghol Crusader lobbies and battle online remotely,
which was just perfect.
Speaker 1: Would you ever just like make towns and kingdoms and
like never actually have combat or anything like you would?
Would you ever just like sit around for a few
hours and just make a cool looking kingdom?
Speaker 2: Yes? I would. Eventually I would get to the point
where like, oh, you know, I wish that I could
get into the combat. And that's why the first Stronghold
was so great, because it's like, oh I can just
I could I can put in an army to invade
my lands.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, man, that's great. I uh was a fun
little rabbit hole was a Stronghold and games like that,
just the weird little niche pockets, but it's perfect. Anything
any other thoughts on the Stronghold that you won't share here.
Speaker 2: The original Stronghold also has a definitive edition, which I
was aware of, but the Crusader version completely went over
my head. That one's nineteen bucks.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Yeah, that could be another nice one to
jump into there. Okay, let's talk about some of the
games been playing. I feel like for you it's mostly
more Hell Divers. But anything else or do you want
to talk more about Hell Divers? Say anything new to share?
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, what else do I have on the
hell Divers front? Yeah? Because I have not really touched
any other games. No, it's just been leveling up more,
ranking up more, and just learning out like specific tactics
and whatnot, and just you know, mucking around with the
hive lords and stuff. But I guess we faced off
the automatons for the first time, so that was a
very new experience because it was very different from the
Illuminate and the I can't remember what they're called. The
IRAQNS is what I'm gonna call them. The Insights of
the Bugs. Yeah, because one thing that we were dealing
with was like, okay, like the units are very different.
You got flamethrower robots that are charging at you and
blast flames, and then you've got to destroy these bases.
And these bases have like sniper accurate towers on them,
which was very difficult to deal with, but it was
fun to you know, change your arsenal where you plan
to bring into combat like turrets and everything. Against the bugs,
it's like, okay, well you can't really do that. Against
the robots. You might have to pack that portable shield
and a few other things to really change the game
a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like they have a similar mentality
to like their weak spots in terms of like usually
on their back somewhere there's like something you can hit.
But I feel like with the bugs, like it's usually
it's like a feeling like I'm much bigger area, so
you can be less precise. You really just got to
be in the right like position, whereas with the robots,
like not only is it like on their backs, so
they're not like generally facing that towards you. But then
it's also like a small little vent or something like that.
And obviously you can just like bomb them or hit
them with fire like things that are gonna hit their
whole body and deal damage, but to like go for
those precise spots feels it feels a lot more mechanical
in that way, like you gotta be a lot more precise.
So I like that little change, and even like the
change of setting two. The kind of like swamps of
deg above vibes mixed with robots is like, I don't know,
a fun kind of fusion there, and so yeah, I
had a really good time with that. And I also
feel like the main robots, like the little like fodder ones,
seemed like super buggy, which is funny because that like
kind of fits for like these janky little robot aies.
But like sometimes I would just find like a clump
of like twenty of them just like glitched out by
the river, like not doing anything. But then I was like, Okay,
this is a good chance for me to just get
twenty clean kills and maybe go for first on the
leader board and look like I did a lot more
than I actually did. But yeah, I mean, like the
scanner uh flying scanner ships like that? Is it a
terrifying thing that you're kind of always having to watch
out for them. They just never seem to end and
it's like they're really hard to kill them, mixing that
within like all the ground troops and whatnot. So yeah,
I've been having a good time with Hall Divers's tricky
because like when I'm playing with you or Travis or whoever,
it's like I'm the lowest level in the lobby usually,
so I'm just trying. I feel like I can usually
stick with it, but i just feel like in terms
of like strategy, I'm not really there. I'm kind of
just like a hired gun, Like I'm just a mercenary
pretty much, whereas you guys are like kind of telling
me where to go. I'm getting lost all the time.
But yeah, we definitely had some good matches over the weekend,
some clutch couple clutch victories, one or two clutch law
or I think just the one loss, right, But we
still got some good XP even though we lost. But yeah, no,
I'm having a great time with the game. Have you
tried that like the dragon stuff? Because I saw a
bunch of people complaining about the dragons, which they recently added.
Speaker 2: I've not faced a dragon. I don't know if you
count like the flying little guys out of the high No.
Speaker 1: I mean, look the I think they're I thought they like.
Speaker 2: Big wire breathing dragon. Yeah, the big big one. I've
not faced it yet. I'm not sure where to find
that one.
Speaker 1: I feel like it. They'd be like a bug in
the bug world.
Speaker 2: They are. That's exactly where they are.
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, maybe they're like a world event thing you
have to go, like a specific zone or something. I'm
not sure.
Speaker 2: It might be that I've been watching videos and some
reels and some crazy stuff and like just dealing with
the big worm, the doing worm, the high lords. That's
all kind of worms intended. I saw two of them
in one map, which is pretty crazy. But this guy,
like it looks like there's submissions where you have like
a giant tanker unit that you have to escort, and
so these people were like on it and it was
just it's huge. It's like an elephant from Halo three.
And this thing is moving very slowly and then the
hive lord like comes up from underneath it and launches
it into the air. It just was pure chaos, absolute chaos.
Speaker 1: Hell Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess the one good
thing of me being lower levels. I'm getting a lot
of xps. I'm leveling up pretty quick, getting some new
things on lock aways, some good stuff in there. You
have the mech now, which is really great, super fun
and super strong. But yeah, no, it's it's I feel like, yeah,
I'll really satisfying just kind of upgrade tree though there's
so many things to do and switch out things I have,
like gun customization, which I got in our last session,
so I've been doing a little bit of that. So yeah,
it's it's super good. I think it'll just be kind
of an evergreen title for us if they will just
come back to it for years to come, just like
hopping every once in a while. And right now we're
playing quite a bit, so yeah, shut it's a hell
Divers two uh for me. I don't have too much
new this week. I last week's shared with Kirkland, I
was playing Tony Hawks three plus four, which came out
earlier this year, and then I just I just couldn't
stop playing, So I played all of that and then
I I've been waiting for this game of going game
pass for years and it's just not happening. But Tony
Hawks one plus two because they own that game and studio,
and they put three plus four on game Pass, so
I'm like, well, I don't know wber one plus two is,
but it seems like it's not coming at this point.
So I was like, fuck it, I'm just gonna finally
buy this game and Foods on sale on PlayStation. That's
the only knowing thing is like, I'm playing Tony Hawks
one plus two and three plus four, and I wish
it was like, hey man, we're these levels all just
combined into one game, and you could just boot up
and have like, oh, here's like thirty levels you can
play all once. But I got a boot between them
and now I have them like two separate consoles. So
I'm just flipping between the consoles trying to get used
to stuff. And that's what I mentioned to you on
Discord that I discovered that there was some weird setting
on my Xbox. I was putting some input leg that
I don't normally notice, So I don't know if it's
just a Tony Hawk glitch thing or if it's just
because that game requires like such quick, precise inputs, and
that's where I was like noticing it a lot more.
But I fixed that up and now been having a
good time kind of getting back into those levels and
all that. So plowed through both those games and like
going through them over and again, just doing some of
the challenges, bonus stuff, having a great time with that.
And then I went to a used game store and
picked up some other Tony Hawkins from back in the
day that I never really played. So Thug two is
the main one I've been playing there, which is a
big blind spot for me because I love Tonyox Undergrounds,
one of my favorite games of all time, and it
is my favorite game in the series, and so it's
weird that I've never played the sequel, which is it's
just a weird game. I don't know if you know
much about Tony Koks Underground too, but that game was
pretty much like pretty much a crossover with Jackass, Like
you have all the people from Jackass in there, well
not all of them, like Johnny Knox was not in there,
but you get like we mean and benmar Jare and
BAM's dad and all this stuff, and like the story
is very jackassy, or they're just going around like doing
stupid stuff like destroying things and whatnot. So I feel
like it's very much getting away from that pro skater
gameplay of just like really intense game skateboarding mechanics, like
you're grabbing tomatoes and like throwing them at bowls to
go get them to the attack people and all this
crazy stupid stuff. Unfortunately, the game is like, so it's
an original Xbox game. I'm playing on three sixty, so
it works, but it's like kind of laggy. Apparently this
game is just like not it's like one of the
few games that's just like not really optimized that well,
like if you played specifically on the three sixty. So
it's a little bit laggy. But I've still been playing
through a bunch of that. So yeah, I'm just on
a big Tony Hawk kick right now, which has been
really fun. Uh, and yeah, I'm gonna keep playing some
more one plus two, three plus four, And I think
what I'm gonna do because this is the thing I've
seen streamers do and like other content creators, is they
celebrate October. So the month of October they just do
some Tony Hawk content and so I think I'm gonna
do the same. I'm gonna do a Tony Hawk ranking
rank my top twenty five favorite levels or something, so
look forward to that in the coming weeks. People put
that probably has a little solo episode out on the
side quest feed. So yeah, it's been really funn to
get back in Tony Hawk. Ands. It's weird because like
a couple of weeks ago, like the New Skate came
out in like early Access, and I don't really get
interested in playing that until it's like one point zho.
But just between three plus four come out this year Skate.
It's like, I don't know, maybe a bit of a
skateboarding renaissance. There's a couple of big skateboarding games that
look pretty cool too that are coming out soon. So yeah,
just that you know, we're gonna talk about your gaming eras,
and I feel like for me, skateboarding games were like
a big part of a couple of airing you know,
gaming eras in my life, but that hasn't been the
case for like at least a decade. It's been a while,
so it's kind of fun to get back in there,
and especially Tony Hawk, which is how Arcadie it is
and over the top and crazy and whatnot. So that's
been really fun. And like, I haven't played a lot
of those maps before, so it's all kind of even
though the remakes of earlier games, the games I'd never
really played back in the day, so it's kind of
all fresh and new, and the remakes are good and
they look great and all that. So just having a
ton of fun with some some Tony Hawk stuff hopefully
can bring some of that up on the twenty four
Hours Dream this year, because we did that last year,
I think for a little bit, but I was so
rusty and now I'm a freaking god, so now I
want to show off my skills in the room. Yeah,
looking forward to that. Yeah, that's pretty much it though.
Other than that, I have played nothing else, I don't think.
Yeah I did. I released a Hollow Night bonus episode
for anyone who missed that, doing some spoiler thoughts on
Hollo of Night. I've finished that game now, or at
least one of the endings I finished, So yeah, you
can go check out all of that. I think what
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she goes. So we'll be right back. Okay, we are
back here with Taylor Field. So Taylor kind of sprung
this on you but mere hours ago. So it's not
like we've been, you know, making a documentary of your
gaming career for the last three months and we're ready
to unveil it. It's a little off the cuff, even
though it said as I said, it's something I've been
wanting to do for a bit here, but I kind
of want to learn about you and I want the
audience to get a chance to learn more about you,
and you're just I don't know when you think about
your time with video games, maybe you don't think about
this stuff the way I do, but I'm always overthinking
these things. I don't know when you think about your
life and gaming, is there like distinct eras for you,
or like were you really into these kinds of games
back in the day. Now you don't play those at all,
and now these days you played different things and you
did then. I don't know, do you do you think
about that at all? Or is it kind of just
been one long, slowly transitioning thing throughout your whole life.
Speaker 2: Ah my goodness, It's it's transitioned. But I feel like
where I'm at now, it's something that has just kind
of come full circle. And I'm still going back and
playing old titles like Oh, I'll go back and I'll
play Hello Reach, go back and play old Luigi's Mansion,
you know, Yeah, Stronghold Bar, Sunshine and just old classics
that really were nostalgically pleasing for me, that kind of stuff,
And I just it's just comes from a place where
I like the newer renditions and the sequels and whatnot,
But those newer ones necessarily aren't just scratching my itch.
I mean, they scratch part of it. But there's just
certain things that those old ones. I like, I could
go and I could get Mario Odyssey, but I have
the ability to pop on on Sunshine on my switch.
I'm gonna do Sunshine instead of Honestly, I don't have
much of a calling for that. So that's an example
for sure.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Okay, take me back then rewind the tape.
Do you have a very first gaming memory, the first
game you played, or the first game that you remember
seeing maybe like a fanily member play or like, I
don't know, we're an at arcade obviously we weren't really
around in the big arcade era, just based on our age.
But I don't know what is your first gaming memory
if you have one.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I remember my older brother he had
a Nintendo sixty four, and then I remember going over
to my friend's house once after elementary school ended, and
he had a Nintendo sixty four and it was Donkey Kong.
Donkey Kong was one of the earliest ones that we played. Okay, Oh,
there was other stuff that my brother had. My brother
had other consoles too, like.
Speaker 1: He had.
Speaker 2: Like Atari, so where I was like some really old stuff.
But I can't remember that that well. I just I
have a faint memory of the room being very dark
in one of his old houses with him. He this
is when he had his first kid, his wife, and
I was in the living room, but it was dark
and the screen was just black and white. But it
was like it wasn't Pong. Maybe it was. It was
another game, but it was something old school. It wasn't
on the N sixty four. But that's one of the
oldest memories I have.
Speaker 1: Were you playing the Atari or were you just like
like it was just on and I was, I was
playing it.
Speaker 2: I was definitely playing it. And I remember playing a
little bit of Mario Party two on his N sixty four.
He had he had some of that. I can't remember
which one, but it was a very very long time
ago when things got real, though, I'd say maybe a
little bit before that even too. I mean, my dad
had Wolfenstein three D on the floppy and then he
had Flight sim on the Floppy two. So I played
a lot of that. That was a lot of fun.
But afterwards, when things got very real, that would have
been would have been the the the Ness era.
Speaker 1: So well, yeah, yeah, because because I mean, and the
orders could be all but like interesting that like N
sixty four is maybe a first Marrior but then N
E s So how does that? How does that?
Speaker 2: So? Yeah? N sixty four and then my first console
would have been game Boy Color and it would have
been the Purple One. And for that I had Pokemon Blue.
I had Mario Tennis, and I remember I had a
Mega Man game as well that was a lot of fun,
But Pokemon Blue is what I played my heart out of.
Speaker 1: I played you remember what Mega min Mega Man game
that was.
Speaker 2: Oh mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Let me take a look and see. Uh yeah, I
don't know what's on that console for Mega Man games.
Speaker 2: I remember the cartridge is like translucent because it was
for Game Boy Color.
Speaker 1: Mmm, it looks like there was five Okay. I think
they kind of looks like maybe they like remakes of
like some some of the ne E S S and
E S games which mad like there was a lot
of games like that, Like I think, uh, Donkey Kong
Right had kind of had that situation too, where they
had like Donkey Kong Land Right, which was like a
which were like remakes of like the Donkey Kong Country games.
But just like on the game Boy version, so like
a little bit turned down. So maybe just I guess
it would been it would have been one two three
or five one two three, four or five maybe Mega
Man Extreme two, Mega an Extreme too.
Speaker 2: Pretty confident. This this is it, This looks like it.
It was it. This is like triggering serious memory.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a great boxer yeah Extreme two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the gameplay just it's triggering me, especially I can't
remember who this character is, but he's got like the
hair or she's got the hair. Not sure what what
character that is, but yeah, there's just yeah, m well
memory jog, holy smokes, memories.
Speaker 1: No, that's good. That's what I'm hoping for here. I'm
hoping to find some weird spots that you haven't thought
about or that I haven't come up on the podcast before.
Speaker 2: This was so the game Boy.
Speaker 1: That was the first thing you owned, though, Like this
is taylor Fields, yeah, Tom.
Speaker 2: Taylor Fields, taylor Field's console. Nothing entertainment wise, TV wise yet,
just the handheld. And so when my cousin and he
my cousin, my aunt, they were living with they live
with my grandma and my grandpa at the time, and
I'd always go over there for like two weeks for
summer vacation stuff like that, and that's when he got
the nests. Okay, this is cool, so we played it.
We're playing. Mario was the big one. The original Mario
was like the big, big one that's on the character.
Sorry to share with duck Hunt.
Speaker 1: Just to confirm. This is after the Atarian sixty four stuff.
Speaker 2: This is after all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I love I love this kind of weird
reverse order of Nintendo like that, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: We didn't get stuff like the new new stuff, and
my cousin eventually started to get stuff like new New,
but like his introduction, like I think it was my
grandma and grandpa like got the Nintendo Entertainment System.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's similar for me in though,
the sense that Likens was my first console and to
me as a kid, that felt like, oh, this is
what a video game is. But it's like the n
sixty four I think was already released at that time.
That's just like when I was getting a console, or
like the NCP four it was just about to release,
so completely skipping the SNS not didn't have a game
Boy yet, so it's like, yeah, obviously, just based on
where we are born, some of these things are thrown off.
But anyway, I love that you've experienced three D gaming.
Obviously Wolfenstein as well, well. I think that was kind
of like a faux three D, right, Like it's kind
of the two D images that kind of move around
and look three D. Yeah, yeah, okay, so you've experienced
three D gaming and now we're going back to two
D gaming with the Game Boy and then the nes.
Speaker 2: Yes, I never went to the Super Nintendo. That was
one that skipped and I never had the same for
for it, like it just never any draw and never
anything like that.
Speaker 1: But have you have you with the Intended Switch Online?
Done any digging into that or is it? Are you
just like nah, i missed that, and you know it's
not I'm not gonna fill that hole.
Speaker 2: It's not a hole I want I gotta fill. Yeah,
I got other things.
Speaker 1: I'll fill someone else can fill that hole.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, But with you with the Nests, it
was Mario and Duck Hunt shared on the same cartridge
that staple and then Oh Bill and Ted's Adventure. My
cousin got that game, which was super well, we would
play it and not have a single clue what we
were doing. But that was a lot of fun. And
then there was Jaws that we played on there and
what other stuff was there. There was a couple other
games for sure, but that was definitely like Mario was
the main one, and we would just play that for
hours trying to see how far we could get. And
that's why to this day, I will I'm so thankful
it's on the switch because I will go and I'll
just I'll play it. I'll sit in like an hour
or two, just really thoroughly enjoying it. I've made it, yes,
So at this point I like to just like speed
run it and just try and get through the levels
as fast as possible. But it's just it's so much
fun finding out where the new like Extra Life mushrooms are,
just the secret passages. I know where the secret passages are,
and that's a lot of fun when you can skip
the worlds and whatnot. But yeah, that game just holds
a special place in my heart for sure. With that
after especially because my grandma would play it too. That
was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Nice did you do that? Did you play duck Hunt
at all? Because I had that cartridge too, but I've
never actually played duck Hunt. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, we had the gun accessory and so we
definitely would play that a lot. That was a lot
of fun, but not as often as we'd be playing Mario.
Speaker 1: Mario was definitely the Yeah, yeah, I never had the gun,
so I don't know. I mean, it was a hand
me down NS came from a pawn shop or I
don't know where the heck it came from, so I
just didn't have the gun with it. But yeah, I
feel like as a kid, I didn't think about, like,
what is this other game on this cartrige that I have?
Were just kind of messed around, But I was just
looking up some screenshots of Bill and Ted's excellent adventure
Goddamn love love the art for that. That's oh yeah,
that was great. But I can definitely see getting lost,
like not know what's going on, but still just like
like that was me with the Alien three game. I
had on anys no idea what was ever happening, but
it was still like thrilling for some reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what kept pulling us to
that game. So I think maybe these the art style.
But yeah, it was just such a such an experience.
Speaker 1: One that had you seen Jaws or we just you
were just playing Jaws.
Speaker 2: Oh. We we had seen Jaws at this point. We
were familiar with it, and so the game was It
was interesting because you have the map and you move
around on the boat and then you just hit these
spots where now you're a diver and you're under the
water and you're just moving left and right, up and
down the shark comes and stuff like that. So it's
it's very very arcadie. But that's fine. Yeah, I wish
I could remember some other games that we had on there,
but I I can't really.
Speaker 1: Any other like like a Metroid or a Zelda, like
any other like big Nintendo IP character games that you
can call or was it like I feel like License
Games was definitely like a big one back in the day.
And sounds like you obviously had a couple of those.
Speaker 2: Racing game maybe did you have a racing game Excite Bike? Yeah,
that was oh and punch Out that was another one too.
That was a lot of fun. And I remember we
we got far but we couldn't beat this one boss
and my uncle she come he would visit every once
in a while, and he went to my grandparents' house
and he's like, here, let me, let me hop on there.
And he hops on there and just schools the like kicks.
These guys ass like, oh my gosh, like uncle's is
low key, just pulling the skills out, just taking down
the bosses that me and my cousin could take out
and punch out. It was great.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's Mike Tyson that you could never beat
or was it someone else?
Speaker 2: It might have been. I think he's the boss in there. Yeah,
it might have been. To be honest. Between that and
Excite Bike, I'm glad I remember those because those were
definitely two that we we did play. Punch Out was
a lot I remember, just button mashing, trying to get
your character to like a little Mac to get back up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, yeah, that was.
Speaker 2: Just a lot of button mashing, a lot of fun. Yeah,
Oh my goodness. As far as Zelda goes, I can't
remember if we had the game on Ness. I want
to say we did, but we didn't touch.
Speaker 1: It a lot.
Speaker 2: I ended up getting for game Boy ADVANCESP. I got
the original Legends out there for Ness, but on the
game Boy version and I played the dside of that
beat it loved it. It was fantastic. And Game Boy
Advances P. That was my next step into gaming. Okay,
for whatever reason, my mom just like took me to
Walmart bought me the purple game Boy Dances P. I
guess the cobalt blue one, which I still have, and
I love that so much. And that was just my
next step into there. And so with that, I got
Pokemon Sapphire, went hard on the Pokemon Sapphire, and then
I got, uh, what else? A sonic game? And I
got a bionical game.
Speaker 1: Two.
Speaker 2: That's just there's so much.
Speaker 1: It was a bionical game, just like a two side
scroll and beat them up kind of.
Speaker 2: Nope, No, uh, what game was it? I'll get a
title here for you. It was. Is this it? At
least three specific?
Speaker 1: There was a Lego one, Lego Bionical, I don't think,
I mean it looks like a Touring Adventures? Was it
just bionical the game?
Speaker 2: It was not a torn Adventures? That's the two D
one okay?
Speaker 1: Is it Lego Bonicle? Are you coogle that one might be?
Let me look up some because that one looks like
it has a more isometric style to it, which.
Speaker 2: Is exactly what the game had. It was definitely not
two d oh. I think it was Lego Bionical. It
looks like let's.
Speaker 1: See which chet does not really look like a Lego
game when you think about Lego.
Speaker 2: But oh no, this looks different.
Speaker 1: Oh there's also Bionical Heroes, apparently.
Speaker 2: Bionical Heroes, which is different. Yeah, Bionicle Heroes for game
Boy Advance. So I got that one for GameCube, which
was just fantastic shadows.
Speaker 1: There are so many freaking biomicals on this console. Maze
of Shadows, no that I love the art of this
game though. Maze of Shadows looks great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Maze of Shadows is different. Oh, which one was
it Bionical? It was a me touring game?
Speaker 1: Hmm, game Boy, are you sure it wasn't an original
game Boy game that you were playing this one?
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. Oh oh, this cartridge looks familiar. Ah.
Speaker 1: By the way, do you still have all this stuff
or do you or you just kind of have remnants
of the games that you own as a kid.
Speaker 2: I still have a few of these games, maybe the
Lego Bicle game, Like some of the gameplay looks different,
but maybe it is just Lego Boncle. Oh yeah this okay,
here I'll share my screen so you can see what
what I found Binocle me touring game.
Speaker 1: So the this is definitely the one that oh god damn,
I love the colors of this.
Speaker 2: This one was just like the Be's knees. I had
so much fun with this.
Speaker 1: This is one of those games that like because because
you know, the original Game Boy Advance like before they
had the SP, like didn't have the back light on
the screen, so it's really hard to see ship. This
game feels like, okay, let's make this game extremely bright,
so people who don't have the SP can like see
this game. But when you have an SP, it's probably
just like making your eyes bled in the best way possible.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh this is just bringing me
back holy smokes. So yeah, this game is absolute. It's fantastic.
It's just so fantastic.
Speaker 1: And and sorry, I wanted to want to go back
quickly to the Game Boy which Pokemon it was a
blue that you said you.
Speaker 2: Had Pokemon game Pokemon blue for the game Boy Pocket
or game Boy Color, and then Pokemon Sapphire for.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing Blue like you love Blue, like you were
a Pokemon fan back then, or was it more with
Advance where you became like a huge, a bigger.
Speaker 2: Poke Advances where I became more of the Pokemon fan
like I had with Blue. My save didn't work, so
I could never save my progress, but I'd always keep
playing Regard, I remember, yeah, And at that time too,
the cards were popping off, so I had a collection
of cards. It was just really really exciting. And so
I knew when I got my new game Boy that
I wanted to get it. So I saved up my money.
I had to save up like thirty five bucks as
a kid, and I managed to get the enough and
bought Sapphire from YOUB Games back in the day, no
box or anything. It was a used version that had
little shuffled all the use game Boy Advance games in there,
and so picked that up, and uh, yeah, it was
just it was fantastic. I played so much of that game.
It's unbelievable. Done pretty much everything that you can do
in it. Hell yeah, and that's probably the most play
game on my game Boy Vance sp actually that makes sense.
So but after that, it was the next thing that
popped up was the game cube, and it was my
cousin that got it. And for for what he got,
he got yeah Sunshine. This was after I think I
told the story when we were in thrifty Foods was
the grocery store down on the coast, and they had
or no, it was quality Foods, sorry, quality foods. They
had a whole area with like an indoor ball pit,
and then's like ceertvs and multiple game cubes and so
we're playing it and my cousin was like, oh, same
cousin that we played Nests with, It's like, oh, I want,
I want this game. It was Mario Sunshine. So his
dad ended up buying him for his birthday game cube.
So when I would go over there, we'd be playing
Luigi's Mansion, Mario Sunshine, Melee. What was the other one
he had? I think I shared with you the Donkey
Kong Conga Beat one, so he had those drums too,
And then what else did he have?
Speaker 1: Party Sports Hazelda.
Speaker 2: Mario Party seven he got later on, And that's why
that game was a huge sweet spot for me. Is
my favorite legend Mario Party because I just the time
playing it with him and just the satisfaction of just
everything and it's just that game just it speaks to
my heart. I love that game so very much. Zelda's
He Got wind Waker. We played a lot of wind
Waker together. That was a lot of fun. I remember
just playing into like the wee hours, just doing bucking around,
trying to do stuff. Usually it was just uh, dealing
with the what was the island? It was the first
time you get to like the Bird's Island.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's like dragon Roost. There's uh yeah, not
dragon Roost. It was again on set on outset island.
Speaker 2: No, not outset, it was like the where you had
to avoid the search lights and whatnot barrel and so
I got there. Yeah, we just spent so much time
there and then I remember my cousin getting further. When
I went back home, I was like, yeah, we have
to go back to that island, Like, oh my god.
So there's there's a lot of fun, a lot of
fun there. And on top of that, what else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think, like, because you've mentioned a
lot of single player things, so I'm thinking other than
Melee and Mario Party seven, Like I guess Double Dash, right,
you would have played that as well.
Speaker 2: No, we never got the Double Dash enough the Double Dash.
It was mostly just the single player ones and we
would just be switching taking turns, alternate a.
Speaker 1: Any license games in that in that era that you had, like, uh,
I don't know, you know. Obviously Simpsons Hitting Run was
a big one, but like the Incredibles game and anything
random like that. Anything.
Speaker 2: There was a Cars that we played a little bit,
but other than that, I can't really think of.
Speaker 1: Okay, it was mostly just like these main heavy hitters. Okay,
fair enough. The other one yeah, sorry, go ahead, Yeah
it's gonna I was actually gonna rewint, which I keep
doing this, but I don't really rewind a little bit
back to game Boy Advance just to see if we
can do any more mining theres because I love it
so much. Obviously, Pokemon, Lego, Bionicle, what else? What else
do you remember anything? I think mainstays once you play.
Obviously Pokemon was your most played, But can you remember
the other ones that you would have had.
Speaker 2: There was a F Zero game that I played.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I played a lot of that one, and then Sonic
the Hedgehog three specifically, I think I have I had
a Risk Battleships game. For some reason, I love playing
Risk on that. That was a lot of fun. Ah
what else? Oh, yes, I also had Super Mario World. Yes,
I had Super Mario World on there. And I know
that was originally a Super Nintendo game at the time,
of course I didn't know. But when it I got it. Uh,
I got it for Game Boy Advance SP. I had
just like that was just the Bee's knees I had.
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone had that on game Boy evans
like that game. I feel like had a I mean
it was already a big game, but like had a
bigger surgeence with being handheld. There.
Speaker 2: Oh here, I'll show you something sec Oh.
Speaker 1: I always love seeing things.
Speaker 2: I was digging through, uh because we did a garage sale.
We're cleaning up and everything like that, and I had
the game cartridge in like my with my other game stuff.
But when I was digging through, I found the box.
I found the box for my Game Boy Vance SP,
which is as all the old manuals. And then I
found the box.
Speaker 1: For Oh nice, that's a clean looking box man. That
thing is it is? It got a little a little.
Speaker 2: Like bent there, but like honestly, you know, the box
is like, it's not bad, it's I kind of I
feel like that's very non Zelda color palette and I
kind of love it for that, like red black and
red black white and then like a gold highlight is
very cool.
Speaker 1: I like that a lot. Yeah, and so that's the
original Zelda, like just on Game Boy Advance pretty much.
Speaker 2: This is the come on game, the original Zelda on
game Boy Advance.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: I think I can get the game out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had, I had, Oh nice, that looks great. Yeah,
the ny S collection I think I had, like the
Donkey Kong like any S collection one of that. I
guess it was like a little series they were doing.
But I had what did I have? I had a
Link to the Past and Minish Cap on game Boy Advance.
Those are the Zelda's. I was a good one. Yeah, nice, okay, okay,
so sorry that was the game Boy Advance into the
game Cube and sorry in this era, like any other
PC games that are popping up, are you doing any
You're ripping up mini clip dot com? Or is that
with that that a later? Is your dad playing any
other Wolvenstein's like an anything else going on in that time?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was there was the flash Games Mini clip
addicting games. Those were two two big ones, and that was, yeah,
what what we're playing?
Speaker 1: There was trying to remember like the names of those
games because they're all just very They're almost like little
dreams lost the time, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like there was obviously tanks and there's like an
archery game where you can take to shoot the arrow and.
Speaker 1: I remember that game. That game was great. Yeah, I
don't really forgot about that game. What the heck was
that game?
Speaker 2: There was another one, Helly Attack. This one I played
a lot of. I'm gonna share my screen, You're gonna
kick out of this. This one is clip hellys. So
it's called Helly Attack.
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you were just downloading something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Second, I was like, Elliott, dude, this is yes, yes,
you have unlocked this for me. You know, Okay, this
is crazy. So maybe about a year ago, me and Kirklin,
we're talking about Metal Slug and I was like, I
don't think I've ever played Metal Slug, but there was
a game I would play on a freaking flash game
website that was pretty much a Metal Slug knockoff, but
I couldn't figure out what it was and he named
like five or six, and I was like, these look similar,
but not quite it. This is exactly it. So thank
you for helping me freaking put this puzzle piece together,
because I have been desperately trying to find the name
of this game. So thank you. I mean if I
did one or two, but that is that is a
great throwback right there. Oh yeah, I love this game.
This game is so good.
Speaker 2: It was all the rage back in elementary school, holy
smokes with my friends. It was just it's so good.
The different weapons that you get, just taking down the
helicopters and whatnot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the other one, Bowman two specifically, I
guess is what it was called, which is, yeah, you
just have the two people standing there and then it
like they get progressively further apart, right, and then like
of course it's a flash game, so it's super violent.
Blood's I mean violent in the sense that there's blood everywhere, blood,
little red spurts flying out. But yeah, that one as well,
that's another core memory. Just don't locked there. I haven't
thought about that game in fifteen years, but I played
that all the time. I feel like that's that's how
we would do on the flash game websites. It's like
you do your rounds, you know. It's like, Okay, I'm
gonna play literally five minutes of this game five minutes
of that, which is funny enough like what I often
do now with like Xbox and having what's it called
quick resume or you can quickly switch between games. I
feel like I do a bit more of that now
in game Pass. I'm like, just I'll just download a
bunch of things. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna sit down tonight.
I'm gonna try like four different games out and see
which one I want to stick with. So I haven't
really made that connection before, but it kind of feels
like a flash gamy sort of way to experience video games.
So yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show you a another game, this one. I
should dig it out and see if I could find it.
Today's Age. It's a gun defense game, except there's a twist.
It's it's got a theme. Oh I'm scared, and this
is a flash game. This wash I've never seen this one.
This one is near to me. This is uh Mario,
I'm seeing stuff. Yeah, So basically like you just gotta
you pick your gun and you just keep clicking them
like the bad guys to take them out before they
just show your tower. So much fun.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness this Yeah, I would have absolutely devoured
this as a as a child. Super Mario Castle Shooter,
that's a that's a great name. It reminds me of
a game I played on the Wii. It was like
one of those Wei Shop like cheap, cheap o little
games where it was called Defend Your Castle, where just
a cat literally just your castle, and like it was
using the Wii motion controls where you would aim at
the little guys who are kind of approaching your castle,
similar to that thing, and you just picked them up
and like chuck them with the with the we remount,
just like throwing people all around. And then you'd like
get upgrades, you get archers, you get major's. I think
you would upgrade units that kind of stuff. Uh so, yeah,
very much reminds me of of that kind of thing.
A lot of games like that back in the day.
Did you ever play Crimson Warfare, because that one I've
brought to Kirkland and he doesn't. I've seen Village a
few times. Wait what it was a flash game?
Speaker 2: Sorry, Crimson Skies Crimson Sky.
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa physical physical of this flash game?
Which I would buy some if that was a thing
that people did, like Collector's Edition of Helly Attack too.
I was thinking, you're talking about but yeah, do you
know Crimson Warfare? Have you Have you played that one all?
Because I feel like that was you would have really
enjoyed that game.
Speaker 2: I think Crimson Warfare, I am not familiar with.
Speaker 1: This, Okay, similar idea. It's like, I guess, kind of
tower to fancy. It's like an RTS but like boiled
down to like really based mechanics. But anyway, I like
to bring that one up.
Speaker 2: There was another game that I enjoyed playing. It was
called Adventure Quest.
Speaker 1: Adventure Quest I had.
Speaker 2: These weird things called frog yards in there. It was.
Speaker 1: It was, Oh, I do remember adventure Quest. Yeah, wow,
that's definitely a throwback. I fig. I feel like I
remember seeing more ads for it all just all over
every website back in the day. But I don't actually
know if I've played it, and maybe I would just
see the ads one million times.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of ads for it.
Speaker 1: Did you ever play Did you ever play this flash
game that was like you're the kind of like an
Indiana Jones looking guy, and it's like an isometric uh,
like an Egyptian temple kind of thing, and you're like
walking through this temple kind of solving puzzles, dodging things,
picking up items. I can't remember the name of it,
and I've been trying to search for it for years
and haven't been able to find it.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't sound fail. It sounds familiar, but I
can heck if I could think game yeah, Okay, okay, good.
Speaker 1: So that was in that same air too. Of course,
that makes sense. We last left off of the GameCube.
Where are we going next? After game?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So after playing The Living Daylights at the GameCube,
this is where things kind of turned back to PC
a little bit. Okay, so my dad got newer. He's
always been like newer computers. In high school, he had
two gaming rigs, one really really good one you know
at the time, quad core everything like that. It was
this thing was aces, but before we got into that part,
it was it was like his business computer. But it
was still really really good. Like I said, He's always
one that was always having like the latest high desktop.
So with this it was Stronghold making its entry, and
then the other stuff was, oh, what was the other thing?
Roller Coaster Tycoon two that was out of the Cereal
Box remember when Kellogg's was doing that whole thing, battleships
that and everything like that. So got that. I played
a lot of Roller Coaster Tycoon too, and then what
else was there? I know, like Halo Combat evolved everything
that came a few years later, much much later. What
was the other thing that I was playing on there though?
Tactics Serena Online. That was another thing too before that
game was like quality that was so much fun. Run Escape, Yeah,
there's definitely run Escape. Okay, I never was. I was
never like a World of Warcraft kind of guy. Run
Escape was definitely one for me. And that's one that
I've gone. You know, you never quit, you just take
breaks exactly, and that that's one especially because my my
older my younger cousin from uh the son of the
uncle who was aces at punch Out. Both his sons,
my cousins were in the RuneScape. My younger cousin who
played on the Gamecuban go and visit what he played it,
but he never got into it. But my other cousins
playing it. That was a lot of fun. So we'd,
you know, play and muck around on there and and whatnot.
But what was the other one though? Oh, my goodness, gracious, Oh,
I thought of it earlier and I made a mental
note to remember it, but I forgot.
Speaker 1: You might you might think of it later. It's fine,
we can it might come. Yeah, I can come back
to it back. Okay. So the PC era, the PC.
Speaker 2: Era, yeah, and that one it dominated for quite some time,
just because I mean, there was there was really fun
games to be played here. So after that, though, I remember,
I ended up getting a game cube, but that was
at the tail end of it, like Walmart was blowing
them out, and my mom went and got me one
with Animal Crossing, which that was another one my cousin
and I played a lot on his GameCube was Animal Crossing.
And then my sister also got me a GameCube, so
it doubled down. I got two, and so one of
them was returned. The one with Animal Crossing was returned
in favor of the one my sister got me, which
came with Star Fox' Assault. So played the heck out
of that. Eventually I went and bought Animal crossing a
few months later. Yeah, but yeah, that's so that's where
things kind of got really really juicy for me when
I got my GameCube, because I was playing a lot
more like the Nintendo games Mario Sunshine and Luigi's Mansion, Melee.
I already knew what I wanted because I played it
at my cousin's house, so I knew exactly the titles
that I needed to get and have in my collection
and played like tons and tons of it nice. So
that was great, And then it wasn't before long that
my cousin upgraded to the Nintendo Wii. Uh. I've had
the Wii off and on, like, I've probably bought about
three times and I've sold sold them every time after
a few months. Like it's just it's cool, well last,
but it's not something I need long term, really fair enough, Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's probably why they sold to many of them,
because people were buying them and selling them.
Speaker 2: Buying them and saw them. Yeah. My cousin though, like
he always kept his and that was a lot of
fun because he had yeah Brawl which we played a
hecked on a brawl. No Maria parties on here, but
we did play. Oh what was that one? We play
with tanks?
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of tanks. I love tank time.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And then on top of that, he had
another game called Endless Ocean, which they released a third
one for the Switch, which I do want to try
Endless Ocean one and two, but particularly the first one.
It was just what a wonderful experience that was. And
me and him played that hours and hours and hours
on end. It was a great time. Yeah. What else
was there? Though? I can't think of too many other
things that come to mind with the Wii?
Speaker 1: But were you did you? Were you a fan? Not
a fan? Or neutral on motion controls?
Speaker 2: Back then, I didn't like it, and I thought that
that's where we were going to be going, and I
just was not a fan of it really, right, Okay,
It wasn't before long where my next console upgrade was
an Xbox three sixty and I remember my my mom
she knew I wanted it and so put money aside,
and I remember getting it from best Buy and that
was the one that came with Assassin's Creed because best
Buy had a bundle going on where they include Assassin's
Creed and on top of that, they also included Viva Panyada,
but it was a fifty to fifty bundle that also
had Legoaniana Jones in the same pack as well. Okay, yeah,
so I got those with my Xbox three sixty and yeah,
just I never played Viva Panada Panada or Legoia Jones.
I was just playing Assassin's Creed. Eventually just got other
games call Duty and everything, and that's kind of where
things branched out over there. I guess I should have
said though and emphasized right before I got the Xbox,
that's when I started playing Palo Combat evolved religiously on
the game and computer six Vegas religiously.
Speaker 1: As well, sho Era a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah, so that's when these kind
of really popped off. And uh, it's our strategy games go.
Uh Seven Kingdoms Conquest, which I have actually I had
it around here somewhere, Seven Kingdoms Conquest. But bah, it's
a good RTS game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard of this series, but I've never played
it myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a lot of fun. It's a good time.
Speaker 1: Is it STRONGHOLDI or like more it looks like more fantasy.
Speaker 2: It's more fantasy, very different from Stronghold, very very different.
The other thing that I was playing to was oh,
what was it called Active War direct Action? Really really
like that one, and I wanted to play High Treason
because that one had like naval gameplay in there too,
or mechanics, which seem pretty cool. But there was a
new one that Age of Singularity I think it's called,
and that one I bought a year or two ago.
I don't think I have it installed right now, but
it's on my Steam account, and yeah, that's just I like. Again.
Age of Active War direct Action was great because again
I'm doing the role play thing. You have your map
and you can pick between a few different factions. I
think I just like playing as the US Army and
so basically in these scenarios I would create, you set
up oil refineries, and eventually when the oil refinery drains
all the oil out, there's no more money that can
be made, so you can run out of money and
you gotta defere your enemy before them. But it's cool
because all the units are singular, like single units, not
squad based or anything like that, so you can get
you can do like a fleet like a hundred helicopters.
I don't know if there was a unit cap, because
I didn't ever find it. I would just be buying.
But you can take prisoners of war, put them in prison,
and then you can generate income from that, and so
I would do that so that even though the oil
drives up, I can still keep on building units and fighting,
and so you I would. I'd love to role play
where you'd get like, oh, what are those what are
those things called? With the like a plane, but with
the props of helicopter. Why am I drawing a blank? Uh,
it's a transport helicopter.
Speaker 1: Big helicopter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big helicopter. I would load my ground units in there,
and I would you know, I know they're gonna die,
and I know it's not strategically like the best thing
to do, but just for the role play satisfaction, moving
my units behind enemy lines, drop them down, and just
have my units like run out and just like you
could put them on rooftops of buildings when troops are
going down below and they'd be firing like you could.
Just there was so much depths to that game. It
was a lot of fun, and especially because they had
air units different helicopters, apache helicopters and stuff that could
go into battle. There was a lot of role play
ability in that game, which made it very, very enjoyable
for me.
Speaker 1: I love it. I've ever heard of that game, but
I just know there's some guy on Steam who has
like five thousand hours in this game and he still
plays it religiously to this very day.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yes, absolutely, and a game that got
close well I'm five thousand hours. I don't know, maybe
Star Wars Empire War. That's when that entered and oh
my gosh, that's also a time when Star Wars Battlefront
entered my life too and whatnot. But Empire War was
like the Krem to the Crim still is the Krem
to the Krim. And I wish that that got a
definitive edition. Oh my gosh, I would just I would
immediately keel over if they announced a definitive edition for
that game. But I can't even keep track of how
much time I put into that because before Steve, it
was my hard copy, which I still have, and just
playing hours and hours and hours of that, tons of online,
tons of online and then again tons of just role
playing and setting up just different scenarios and space battles
and everything like that.
Speaker 1: Like that you're hitting different themes of like medieval or
like Star Wars fantasy or like the military, like kind
of realistic military stuff, but like kind of I don't know,
definitely obviously a through line between all that. But I
like that you kind of had various genres that you
were interested in. I think that's cool.
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot and it's definitely refined, and it's
it's something that's kind of refined into just going into
Star Wars. That's just where it kind of it ultimately
would end up.
Speaker 1: And so in this era though, like pretty clearly split
like playing a lot of PC, playing a lot of
three sixty and kind of just flip slopping back and forth.
Speaker 2: The PC kind of slowed down a little bit once
I got the Xbox. But this is time too when
I would be going over to my dad's house now,
and so he had the PCs in back of my
mom house. That's where the Xbox wascha. So yeah, yeah,
when i'd be at my dad's it'd be just a
lot of Rainbow six. I remember. So weekends after school,
I'd skip school early on Fridays, you know, like twelve
o'clock would come like, all right, I'm walking to my dad's,
like a forty minute walk get to my dad's. My
dad's that you know, he's doing his work, his business,
self employed, landscaping whatever. I got my own key going there,
and I'm on the computer and I'm gaming and I
having a good time. And then that night my aunt saying,
Aunt that, you know, my cousin lived at my grandparents house.
My aunt would be going off to do whatever, so
she'd bring my cousin over, drop my cousin off. And
my dad has multiple gaming computers. So now we're landing up.
We're doing the land party, my dad, me, my cousin.
We're on Halo, and this is where we're putting the
disc in the one computer, load it up, take out
the disc, next computer, next computer, and then we're all
online and we're all playing. We're just having a hell
of a good time. So between Halo to Active Ward
Direct Action was another one, Rainbow six and especially seven
Kingdom's Conquest. These are all games that we were all
lanning up and playing, and so my cousin would be
there sometimes he spend the night and we'd just be
playing well into the night, and it would just be
so much freaking fun. Oh my gosh, some of the
happiest game moments of my life.
Speaker 1: I love that. That's a beautiful pocket of time because
that's very reminiscent of me and my cousin doing the
same thing, especially as you mentioned, like your cousin would
like maybe stay over for like two weeks in the summer,
Like the same thing with my cousin from Vancouver would
come down and yeah, we would just we'd watch water
Boy endlessly and then we would just game endlessly. And
I don't know how we did it all, but we
somehow did. Speaking of doing it all, let's do a
quick ad break and we'll be right back to get
some more info on Taylor's gaming history. Okay, we are back,
So transition more to the three sixty era. Obviously Assassin's Creed,
Like you start with the first one, right, and then
I'm guessing you're kind of getting every entry that comes
out at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every entry one. I Assassin's Creed two was kind
of like, I think it was a year later after
I got my Xbox three sixty, and so that was
all the hype getting that and again getting No, I
don't think I was getting every call of Maybe I
was getting every Call of duty because I got World
of War and then One for two. I didn't get
Monoor for three, but that came out way later. That
was tied with Battlefield three, which I got Battlefield three instead,
right right, So I but I was still like Black
Ops Black Ops two and just kind of riding that
that train. So other Xbox three sixty games though that
I got. Yeah, the three sixty eight was just great
because there were so many different like movie tie in
games like Iron Man two, an absolute stellar freaking movie
adaptation game, Like I really really enjoy that Transformers Dark
Side of the Moon.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, those Transformers games were killing it in that era.
Speaker 2: Like oh yeah, super good, right, so good. So between
those and a few other like zany titles, yeah I was.
I was definitely having a blast in the three sixty era.
I've sunk so many hours into that console and it
still got it upstairs. It still runs great.
Speaker 1: So Gears as well.
Speaker 2: Right at that time, Gears was after the fact, I
was more on the Halo train. When Gears three came out,
I bought it opening day, played the Daylights, I have it,
really liked it, and I didn't even play Gears one
or two yet at this point, but after playing Gears
three and loving it, it's like, okay, so I went
back and I think I've beaten Gears one and two twice.
Uh Gear, No, all of them. Gears one to three
I've beaten. I've beaten twice. And then Judgment I've beaten once.
That was a smaller spin off with with Baird and
then yeah, Gears four beaten that. Gears five not completed
it yet, but yeah, the like the the original Gears games, Yeah,
it was definitely later. Halo was definitely just taking a
lot of my time and I never got into the
multiplayer a lot. For me, it was the storyline. The
storyline is what just I fell in love with so
so much that character, just like Assassin's Creed. Just fell
in love with that, that storyline.
Speaker 1: Considering you loved, you know, just coming up with scenarios
and kind of the role play stuff. Did you ever
mess around on like Forge mode a lot. Did you
make maps or just I don't know, with your cousin
just I don't know, screwing around role playing Rydom scenarios.
Speaker 2: My cousin. This is a point where where he was
always ahead and getting like the newest console. I feel
like this is where it transitioned, because now I was
the one getting the newer consoles in the newer games,
and he wasn't keeping up even now, like, hey, let's
let's play this game. Let's boot up, and he's like,
oh no, I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna be
playing like Assassin's Creed Unity or something like. He's playing
like the older ones. Like man, like you should be
hopping on here, So let's play Warzone together, Like we
got the ability now to play together, so let's play
like these newer games. But he's like, ah, no, I'm
completing the other the other game first, Like you know,
that's fair. He's a completionist. So yeah, at this point
with Forge, I would have been not dabbling in it
too too much. I've only really in depthely done one
Forge map, and that was where I created hangar bays
in the air above Forge Island. I put stuff down
below some ford like if you're on the ground, you
could have a battle, and it's like a base and
a base and whatnot. But then hovering I put these
repulsor lips underneath and made it like a cargo ship
floating there stationary. And so I had the hangar bays,
like the one way shields that you can go through,
and there was like a secret entrance you can get
into the ship with. But then I put Banshee's in
there and stuff. So it was like a hangar bay
with aircraft and you could fly out of just it
was a lot of fun. But yeah, it wasn't something
I was religiously kind of exploring or getting into too much.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, cool, okay. So that we're still in the
three sixty era, where are we going next?
Speaker 2: After three sixty it would be probably Xbox well no, no, no,
maybe by Nintendo three DS. Actually yeah, three DS. That
was a very newer purchase. Picked that up from Future Shop,
and I remember getting Smash Bros On On there. What
else did they have. I didn't get a Mario Maker,
but I got Mario Bros. I got into some of
the newer Pokemon games. I guess I completely forgot to
mention the Nintendo DS that I also got before that.
That would have been that would have been early three sixty.
Speaker 1: No, I mean it came out time it came out
like before the WE came out, I think, right.
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I don't remember the dates, but I did.
I did jump in on that, and it was not
right when the then DS had come out. It was
definitely like half point to.
Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe you were deep into the WEI at
that point. Yeah, maybe even in your PC. Probably not
in your PC era. I feel like those kind of
conflict with each other, maybe.
Speaker 2: I think so. I just know that I went onto
the d S and I got fire emblem, a bunch
of Pokemon titles Heart Gold, Soil Silver that was the
main or heart just sorry, just heart gold. I got? Ah,
what else did I get?
Speaker 1: Did you have any like weird gimmicky touchscreen thing is
like brain big brain brain age.
Speaker 2: I didn't jump on any of that. I My DS
was like exclusively a Pokemon, Pokemon machine and Mario and
then the one fire emblem. Yeah that's that's pretty much it, Okay, okay,
three three DS wise, it was pretty much the same
thing Pokemon and uh and yeah nothing nothing third party
or nothing extra on top of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you on like three DS, you weren't picking
up any weird like shop like small little five dollars
games or anything like that.
Speaker 2: No. I think the only thing I bought on the
E shop on my DS maybe it was my three
DS was the Mario Lost Levels, which I really like that.
That was like the Super Mario Bros. Two that was
released in Japan. Yea, it was just the levels are brutal, brutal,
but I love that. I love that challenge, especially in
that like old, like familiar art style of the original
Mario game. But just all these new levels, it just
felt like expansion deals. Yeah, just so exhilarating.
Speaker 1: Lost the time and then they brought it back. Yeah,
that's cool, okay Xbox one.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, Xbox one. I remember this is when I
started my job at Target, and so I had a
lot of disposable income and got that console when it launched.
I got the Day one Xbox One.
Speaker 1: I like that now, sorry, just to get it personally.
Now now I entered the picture. Now I know who
you are, and now I can kind of trace a
little bit in real time, like, oh yeah, I can
remember these areas now. But that's right, absolutely hit the
meeting point of geekers.
Speaker 2: So with this console, I yeah, I got it day
one at launch and so I got a I think
I still have it somewhere. It's a steel case. And
then it was your sixty days of Xbox, your year
Xbox membership on like a steal card, and it had
the code on the back. Okay, and this is your
day one Xbox Live code for Xbox Live for the year.
And then I got an achievement as well for like
day one that I was like zero gamer score, but
it's on It's on somewhere on my account, I guess.
And what else. There's a few other things that was
really really cool for it. My Xbox One controller had
day one engraved on it, which is pretty cool that
I think I got. I think I got rid of
it though with the Xbox One because I didn't have
much of a need for it. Yeah, yeah, my Xbox One.
I ended up trading it in towards an Xbox the slim,
the smaller white one, and I remember having issues with
that because I got the new Resident Evil and I
got a capture card and so I was going to
record gameplay. Ruben came over and the HDMI fuzzed out
on the back of the Xbox, which was just brutal.
So luckily I had it under warranty. I filled up
the information on that Microsoft's website, so I sent the
Xbox via ups back to the Microsoft. They fixed it,
and then like three weeks later, they sent it back
to me, gave me the console and it worked like
a charm. It was wonderful to have the Xbox back.
Speaker 1: And so would you do in those three weeks? Were
you playing a three DS again or are you just like.
Speaker 2: I think, I was just on the computer, you know,
doing and doing whatever I did. I eventually get a
wei U during this period of time as well, and
again that this would have been the tail end of
it too, But Mario Maker Smash like it was just
there's a lot of hype surrounding these games. And Poke
and Tournament too, that was another big one as well.
Speaker 1: Sorry the Resident Evil? Was that was that seven? Or
was that it have been six at the time?
Speaker 2: That was seven?
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I guess that's games older than I My
memory thinks it is, but I guess it. Yeah, I
was an Xbox one era thing, so.
Speaker 2: I feel like it was still relatively new. But eb
games did like a I feel like it was like
nineteen bucks or nine bucks, and it was still like
usually seventy dollars, but I got it for like Black
Friday deal, so it was a really really good deal.
I was super stoked off on that bargain and playing
it with Ruben was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: And I feel like because you also would like at
some point in this eras like Outlast and Dying Light, right,
so maybe a bit of like a horror theme. You're
more into, like interested in the horror stuff for a
little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this it's tricky to know exactly where this kind
of would would sprout. And I've always had an interest
with with horror games because probably my first one that
I ever got involved with. And I forgot to mention
this during the PC era earlier on it was my
dad got a game called Fear. Yeah, first encounter. Uh oh,
first encounter? What does it stand for? Something? Response? I
can't remember what the A was.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fear hmm, yeah, I don't remember.
Speaker 2: There was a there's a girl in there called Alma
and she was basically salt right, that's the one. That's
the one.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is a three sixty play for me.
I feel like it was like a blockbuster three sixty.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it definitely was. Yeah, for three sixty two,
my dad got Fear one. In Fear two, he got
Fear one, and I remember he would just go to
be Games and come back with all like the big
PC boxes with the disks inside of all these new
PC games you get excited about and and play them.
And so Fear the girl Alma that was in there,
just terrifying this little girl that the this Weapons division
was experimenting on because she had psychic powers instead of
trying to get her to like control things and whatnot.
A user as a weapon and then you're just you're
kind of like a psychic soldier. So you're seeing this
like demon girl appear every once in a while. Freaky game,
but that was that one that put me through.
Speaker 1: I really want to revisit that, I because I feel
like that's not a series other than you, like, people
don't talk about that. It's like forgotten to time a bit,
like who even developed Fear.
Speaker 2: And there's three games. There's Fear one, two, and three,
and then there's Uh.
Speaker 1: That we're all kind of in the same era, right.
Speaker 2: Fear three came out much later.
Speaker 1: I want to say, oh, yeah, this was a freaking
Monolith game. Wasn't it like the middle Shadow of War people?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they have a really they have a really
interesting they made a tron game all sorts of like
just a very interesting history when you look back at it.
But yeah, Fear is in there in there as well,
or at least Fear one in two.
Speaker 2: Three, I think like could be a different studio.
Speaker 1: They also did Condemned, which is like a big horror.
Speaker 2: S oh I played the Condemned. Yeah, I remember going
to my friend's house and he had the Condemned and
that was wild. Yeah, but yeah, horror, So horror games
have always been kind of an interest in. Yeah, Dying
Light Outlast for sure. Those were some peak ones on
on three six or sorry on on Xbox one?
Speaker 1: Did you ever sorry? Was had you ever encountered a
Resident Evil before that point, like growing up in your life?
Or was seven actually like your first one you played?
Speaker 2: That was the first one. Yeah, I never got into
it really at all. I played I think it was
five or six briefly, like a few minutes with Rubin.
Speaker 1: And going back, sorry three sixty one more time because
I'm thinking of like, like Resident Evil five was a
big co op game. Army of two like, were you
and your cousin playing that stuff or at that point
was your cousin already kind of a little bit less
frequently playing the game?
Speaker 2: He didn't have the three sixty when I got the
three sixty. He got the three sixty Elite. Uh okay,
kind of the tail end of things. Army of two
played that at my friends. NHL was a big one
on the three sixties pension. So NHL eleven, I remember
we my friends were playing the daylights out of that game.
Oh my gosh, we were just going hard. That was great.
And I remember when the next one came out after that,
NHL thirteen. Sorry, we would skip a year, so even
though twelve was the next one, we would skip that
and just get thirteen because we knew every year that
they were coming out. Yea, So NHL has a huge part,
a huge soft spot in my gaming past for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh I guess. So we didn't bring the Strikers back
in the day GameCube, Yep, yep, Strikers, that's what okay.
I feel like we were forgetting a multiplayer one and
that that was okay.
Speaker 2: That's one that my my cousin didn't get. So for Christmas,
my Grandma and grandpa put the gifts out and he
got a couple random gifts and then I randomly got
this Mario Strikers game and he didn't get it. He
was definitely jealous. I was like, this so crazy.
Speaker 1: Wait was that when you didn't have a game cube yet?
But he did later on when you had your GameCube? Now, okay,
both had game cubes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And for whatever reason, my grandparents got me this
Mario game that he didn't have, and he was super
jealous that. I, dude, a video game for Christmas was
like always a treat.
Speaker 1: I feel like that was kind of rare. Usually, I
feel like my parents would go for like something that
was physically bigger in a box or something, but that
was always like, Oh you could tell too. You're like, oh,
I'm either getting a DVD or a game right now,
and I hope the game, Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh you remind me to another PC game back in
the day. But this was when Elementary School was another
binycle game. It was the movie tie in game by
Uncle Mask of Light, and this this game superseded the
movie in so many ways. It did so many other things,
like the final battle against Makuda was wild, but going
to different chorros of Mattanui and just being able to
like face the bull rock and face the rock She
The one of the most difficultest of all time boss
battles was playing as Onua and Nuva and then facing
the the rock she boss battle and uh In there
was just brutal. But again, lava surfing is Tahoo Nuva
taking out a rak sheet who's got the mask of
light like they're oh so crazy. I remember my dad
could never complete it. It drove him nuts trying to
do the lava surfing and even too like flying as
like lewa in uh you have you have to you
have there's like what was it called. It was, oh,
a guck go bird. So you have a guck go
bird in front of Leewa. I know the words flying,
So as the guckle bird flies, as Leewan knew, you
have to like fly, but his fly wasn't permanent. It
would just last about four seconds and then he would fall.
But behind the guckle bird it created draft, so you
have to follow behind the gugle bird sharp turns goal
around his Yeah, fucking nightmare. But again these are the
these are the games like they were challenges back then,
and I just it's a whole, a whole different tier
like games nowadays. There are challenges and there's certain things
where I can't even keep up with it. Mario Karr
World World, like the Wall Riding. My brain isn't there yet,
but I want to see those kids try and fucking
follow the guckle Bird and Bionical. That ship's fucking difficult, man.
Speaker 1: But especially because you're you probably have like an old
controller and it's like, yeah, kind of gonky and those
games especially Okay, well I was gonna say, especially when
you're flying around stuff, that's when a game would be
lagging out or like the frame rate would drop, which
you know, if you're done had to really tie in PC.
Maybe that wasn't a concern, but I feel like those
kind of things, like when you're having to move quickly
and the game starts like you know, it's like, well,
I now, but that's just kind of kind of what
happens there. Yeah, yeah, sorry, quick dtour is like I'm
thinking maybe three sixty era, like were you you ever
a mobile phone game?
Speaker 2: Guy?
Speaker 1: That were you playing? Ripping up the app store, playing
all sorts of stuff on there. Yeah, it's kind of
like the flash games of the of the that era ring.
Speaker 2: That's exactly it. So I got my iPod Touch two
and seven eleven. That's what I meant to say. Yeah,
angry birds. What was the other one? Honestly, there's some
that I've kept on my phone this whole time. Fruit Ninja.
I still got fruit and Ninja on yeah on my phone.
What else do I have? Fruit inj is really changed? Changed?
Doodle Jump, Doodle Jump yep, class jump on there too?
That Jeff Packed joy Ride Scooter rat on a scooter?
Do you know that one?
Speaker 1: Ride on a scooter or a rat rat rat on
a scooter? Do I know?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I never played that one. I played that looks classic.
What is it called? It was called bike race.
Speaker 2: I think I'm not familiar with bike.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I don't look at if you google bike race.
I I'm curious if you, like you would recognize that logo.
It's very much the same thing. There's a bike but
this one was one where you would have your friends
list on there and you would challenge I know it now, Yeah,
you would challenge a friend and so you know, it
would give you a random level and then you would
compete it compete in the level, and then it wasn't
like live multiplayer. But then you you know, your time
would get sent older your friend they would raise the level,
and then whoever you know had the better time wins
that round. I forget exactly how the scoring all worked out,
but I just remember like the metagame of that, and
like once you got super deep in the game, you
couldn't lock the ghost bike, and the ghost bike like
your character couldn't like fall anymore, so you could do
crazy things where like you could get one wheel to
like just land on like a part of the line,
which is like the kind of course, and then you
could like kind of hack through the level a little bit.
But it was like obviously an intentional bike is just
a super late game one. But then we had to
be like, okay, guys, no ghost bike. We have to
go back to like regular bike here. So that one,
that one in stick Man Golf was the other like
asymmetrical multiplayer ones that me and my friends would play
a lot of where it's like, yeah, you just you
do a thing, you challenge your friend and they have
to do the same thing, like whenever they're on their phone.
The next time very good, like in between class kind
of games, quick, quick to pick up, but people got
super into them. That was a good times.
Speaker 2: The other game to Draw Something that was a big one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, that that's a huge one for sure.
Speaker 2: I miss that. I love to.
Speaker 1: Now we do like jack Box I guess, which is
like kind of in that pocket.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they don't really have I mean there's spin
offs of it. I should look at getting something similar.
That was so much fun.
Speaker 1: That must be like still in the app store. That
came was huge, don't.
Speaker 2: I don't see draw Something, but I see these other
spinoffs on that people.
Speaker 1: Do, like the Scrabble one like that, like they just
you know, quick little games of scrabble. Yeah, by the way,
is it is it? Is it weird for me to
put draw something on my backlog account? Like is that
a weird game to log as? I? I don't think
so cool, it's pretty iconic. It was because I've there's
like five new things I've put on my backlog that
I totally forgot about. So we're finding some good gold here.
Speaker 2: And you have Plans versus Zombies, which we've talked about.
That was definitely a big one.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, So uh, once again unstructured. We're going all
sorts of over the place. But I think that that's perfect.
So back to Xbox one. You have your we you
in this era, but Xbox one? Any other big games there?
Or are we moving moving?
Speaker 2: This is where it starts to get into like the
main titles like yeah, newer stores, battlefronts, uh, newer called Duties,
all that sort of stuff. It got to a point
where here, okay, the WEU was at its end of
its life cycle. We had done the switch conference, you know,
the game cube's most notable features, the handle, all that stuff,
but geek verse and yeah, we're now well into geek
verse now. Yeah, And so at this point I traded.
Speaker 1: The what was up before the series X What Xbox
was that Xbox one, x Xbox one, S Xbox They
didn't have an elite for that, right, all they might have.
I thought it was just Xbox one X and S
I swear and then the Slim on top of that,
which you already talked about, the Slim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Xbox three, sixty, Xbox one, and so the Xbox okay, yeah,
so okay, okay, okay, the Xbox one. I upgraded to
the Xbox one S and the Xbox One S. Wow.
That can't be right, No, no, no.
Speaker 1: This can you feel like there's one missing? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Because wow? So the Series X was twenty twenty. Okay,
so yeah that was graded. What the heck? I feel
like the Series X is newer than that.
Speaker 1: Well, so remind me, x you had Xbox One like
the original one, and then you had the Slim and
then inn S or slim in s the same thing.
Speaker 2: So I went from three sixty to Xbox one. Then
after that the next gen was Xbox Series X, and
then I went from Xbox Series X within the same
gen to Xbox One S or sorry no, no, I'm getting confused.
Sorry yeah, yeah, this the way they labeled this stupid
guide here. Oh my god. Okay, so I had three
sixty upgraded to Xbox One. From Xbox One, I went
to Xbox one S, and then Xbox one S. I
upgraded to the Xbox Series X. So within the same
generation of the one gen, I went from Xbox one
to the one.
Speaker 1: That's and I think sometimes they don't always list the
slims because sometimes the slim even just becomes the new
basic skew right, and they're like phase old one like
for PlayStation and stuff too. So so but okay, so
you had two separate Xbox ones and then moved up
to the series X. Obviously traded that in because there
wasn't really a reason.
Speaker 2: To keep exactly, and EB Games does pretty good trade
in stuff. They were a bit finicky here where we
live with the I think they have bylaws for trading
consoles games. So I had to go to West Colinea
actually do the trade. Was kind of funny. Yeah, and
that's where I did my wi U trade up towards
my switch as well.
Speaker 1: During that games is regretting making that purchase off your hands?
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. Yeah. At the time where I had
my my Xbox one, I think I had bought my
p S three at that time too, and that's where
I got my I got Skyrim for PS three, I
bought the Uncharted Trilogy, played.
Speaker 1: The Charge Why Skyrim on PS three. I liked why not?
Why not PC? Okay, you liked Controller?
Speaker 2: Well, I played the heck out of Oblivion and beat
Oblivion on PC. Yeah like that. And so by this
time I was like, well I don't have my like,
I don't have a newer gaming rig that can really
handle these newer games like Skyrim. So console was the
easiest way to go about it. And when I looked
at the controller for Xbox, I always feel like that
was I'm biased because I think that's much more intuitive
controller and I just feel so good in the hands.
But when I was looking at my cousin playing Skyrim
and seeing the level of organization and spells and just
how to manage and just navigating the menu, there's a
lot going on. I'd look at the PlayStation control and thought,
this controller seems like it's easier to keep things organized.
It's more rigid, but in a rigid way that you
can actually catalog and just easily pull from different areas
like really quickly and do things. And so that's where
I ended up going about it. And so I've done everything.
Speaker 1: So what else was on the PSDB that you were playing?
Speaker 2: I charted one through two and three meg which was
pretty crazy. That was a super online experience. And I
bought PlayStation Move and I bought like the gun attachment
and everything, so I had a lot of fun with
that motion sensor stuff for a little bit. What else
did I get? Infamous one, Infamous two, Those were a
lot of fun Aliens Clonal Marines got that on PlayStation
as well, not on Xbox.
Speaker 1: And because obviously you're coming to this late, so like
these things are cheap, I'm assuming it islike get a
few of these things.
Speaker 2: I bought brand new Aliens Clone Marines bought new on
Charted three. I bought the Collector's editions. I got like
the whole bunch of extra fancy things with that. Warhawk
was another one.
Speaker 1: There's a I remember that the Hawk.
Speaker 2: That was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Checking the shelf, it's.
Speaker 2: On the shelf behind me. I got all the games
so nice so called four that was a big one
for that was exclusive nice and Resistance. Resistance was another one.
I really enjoyed. Resistance Fall of Man was the first one.
I think there were three of them, which again Hell
Divers gives me some resistance vice because some of the
armor looks like the helmets and the gear that you
get in Resistance, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, that's like a bigger because I think I
forgot that you even had a PS three. But yeah,
that's like that was a pretty big era then. I
guess you were playing a lot of games in that time.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I took advantage, but like good, yeah, so
that again, that kind of it fizzled off once I
got more INTI I mean, one.
Speaker 1: Not to dump on the Xbox One, but I feel
like you kind of maybe needed to supplement that a
bit just because that console. They weren't churning out hits
every every month on the Xbox one era, right, so
you kind of had to go elsewhere a little bit.
So I liked that. For most people that was PS four,
but for you it was like, you know what, I
missed the PS three then to go back and check
out that bad boy. So that's cool. That's that's a
nice little pocket there. I don't feel like I knew
much about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really really nice. And again to like
my my aunt that lived here, so when I would
go and visit her, she had a PS three. She
also had a game cube and so that's actually where
I got to play mark Art Double Dashes because she
had a Cube. And then I remember she gave me
a whole bunch of GameCube games. Oh sorry, this is stuff.
The more you talk about it, just this is.
Speaker 1: What I'm so glad this happened, and this is exactly
what I wanted. This purpose what was it called GameCube game?
Can you describe it?
Speaker 2: Hack Tack and TAC two. Yeah, she gave me both
of those games, which those were a lot of freaking
fun for GameCube. And she gave me a bunch of
other GameCube games, like It's just a whole bunch and
like two Orange GameCube controllers too, which is really really
awesome the best. And yeah, so there there was that.
And then yeah, her playing PlayStation three. That's okay. She
she had uncharted too, And but so I was there
and I played Uncharted too. I thought, okay, this is
actually a lot of fun. And that's what kind of
put my interest out there to get a PS three
eventually and get those games.
Speaker 1: Gotcha. Okay. One thing that Tack reminded me of And
I don't even know if this is accurate attack, but
you've always been a dinosaur guy. I no dinosaur games,
I feel like you've mentioned.
Speaker 2: Yet, No tur Rock, no nothing.
Speaker 1: They just never you never sought them out. They never
happened upon upon you. What happened there? Why do you
think you as a big dinosaur guy, why do you
think you never sought that out? I guess I don't
even know what like the iconic dinosaur games are. Maybe
that's the reason. Maybe they aren't, just like it hasn't
been mined super successful, So a lot.
Speaker 2: Of Jurassic Park games for sure. But yeah, it's just something. Yeah,
I never necessarily hopped onto. If they were in games
that I played, then that's that's great. I know Starbucks
Adventures Dinosaur Haven, but I never I never got into adventures.
My cousin was into adventures. I was into assault. Yeah, no,
I just I still I just love dinosaurs. But I
think probably the first one that I got would have
been Drass. It was a Telltale game Jurassic Park. I
think it was. It is called the Telltale Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and that would have been Xbox Game.
Speaker 2: One era three sixty.
Speaker 1: I have it for that's older thought, okay, cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that game is brutal and it's so much fun.
I should play that game again. It's so hilarious playing
out the different storylines. But yeah, I don't think other
than that, what other games? I guess There was Drastic
World Evolution that I got on the Xbox One. Played
a good hefty amount of.
Speaker 1: That, and then well, okay, now I'm just thinking about
this because we were just about to get into Xbox
Series X. But I guess you would have had to
switch first, right, because that can be twenty eighteen or no,
twenty seventeen even yeah, versus the twenty twenty of.
Speaker 2: The X's that's right. I didn't get the switch right away.
I remember people saying like, oh, you know it's hard
to get yeah, yeah, yeah. But I went into with
my we you.
Speaker 1: To trade in It's like, yeah, we got switches, Like okay, cool.
Speaker 2: I got the switch, but I got that first because yes,
I still had my one S at the time. And
then I remember going to EB Games and because I
remember sitting at work in the office, I had my
phone opened up in the queue and I had my computer,
my work computer open up in the queue. Trying to
get in line to get an Xbox Series X was
not happening. So I just walked into TB Games like hey,
do you got any and like, yeah, we we got
some you can order. I was like, oh, perfect, So
I ended up getting one of those cool in person.
Speaker 1: Nice So what is the Yeah, I guess what are
the iconic switch games for you? Then?
Speaker 2: What was the Time Continuer Poken tournament for sure, Mario Maker,
Mario Kart, Yeah, but probably mostly just poken tournaments. I
think that one was just the Be's Knees. I love
that game so much.
Speaker 1: M hm cool. Okay, does that take us into the
Series X then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say we're at the Series X now, which
I mean, my my library is kind of calmed down
at this point because most of the games that I
have were all for Xbox One, and so with the
Series X, it's just newer Call of Duty iterations. Still
every Call of Duty to let's come out at this
point except ghosts. What else was there? Yeah? Star Wars
games usually always getting Star Wars games. I haven't beaten Outlaws,
but it's still you know, any Star Wars game. I'm
gonna try it. I want to play it, experience it.
What else was there?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like, because yeah, Series X five years
ago now for you, is there a differentiation in like
eras within that or has that just kind of been
the Series X has been kind of one era because
obviously you just got to switch to But I feel
like you really have only played like Mario Kart World
on there, so I feel like that is still yet
to be written in terms of what that means for
you in the long term, or do you have like
differentiations of like your series X era early era, we're
five years deep, maybe a couple of years away from
the next one, because I feel like right now to me,
between Hell Divers, between you know, Call of Duty, war Zone,
whether it's us even doing like Outlast Trials or Texas Chainsaw,
like I feel like to me, it seems like most
of your game time these days is like it's like
a social thing for you. It's like a social multiplayer
like that's kind of where your focus is, and then
you're kind of hitting up some of the nostalgia hits,
like you've kind of talked about there. That's that's how
I think of you currently. And has that kind of
been the case for all of the series X era,
would you say earlier.
Speaker 2: On for well, yeah, for the Xbox One S Era,
it was definitely a lot more single player stuff and whatnot.
But now with the series acts, I think you're right,
it's a lot more of a social kind of setting.
I'd say that I like to engage with I would
love to have the ability and the time to go
through and do like single player games, but usually for
the most part, when I put a single player game in,
I will pass out. I'm just so tired. It's just
it sucks because I'd love to be able to just
explore those stories and play more of those games, but
I just can't. But when I play social games usually
like I'm engaging, I'm talking, you know, it keeps me awake,
and I have a lot of fun playing with you guys.
That's just one of the highlights. Because at any point
in time, like I said, I can go and I
could put on a single player game. I could be
eighty years old and I could play a single player game. True,
But you know, to play with my friends, it's just
like I'm back in high school, Lari live in some
of the best gaming days of my life, and so
to people play with you guys, it's just it's fantastic.
Call Duty was one I never thought I would get
to experience that again. And for years, not just a
small little like vacation time, like it was years. We've
just been going hard on multiple Call of Duties in
war Zone and that has just been a dream come true.
And yeah, all the other games that you said that
we've done very social, like Texas Chancel Ofmascer, Rocket League,
all these different things, and again now Hell Divers. It's
just and absolutely fantastic. So I'm very much into the social, social,
online multiplayer games. Friday the thirteenth, I'm gonna shoot that
out too, because that was a real big one too,
and Travis got into that first, and you know, I
followed suit with him onto that and Jazz is such
a legendary game, and so that's one I'm looking forward to.
The new Michael Myers Halloween one, also biophonic, because I'm
hoping they do something good with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean that takes us today, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Coach to Fire Emblem, Mario Kart World, that's
what's about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess because the director happened last week. You
weren't on the side Quest episode talking about it, but yeah,
anything in there that got you super super Jazz, anything
that you're like, oh, I'm picking that up day one?
Speaker 2: No, I mean they ended on a new Fire Emblem title, correct, Yeah,
are you interested in that? It's interesting, but I don't
think I'm gonna be off to the races and getting
it right away. I caught that there was more Resident Evil,
which is pretty cool, but I'm not going to necessarily
hop on that either. My main disappointment is that there's
no new main Mario game, which I would have liked.
I would love to again, I want some Mario Tennis.
Fever is cool, but I don't It's not what I'm
gonna get right away, so I don't know. I would
like something with a little bit more. I don't know, zest,
I don't need a new Smash Pros. I'm happy with
the Smash Pros that we got that's, you know, still good,
and Mario Kart is great, but yeah, just give me,
give me a you got Donkey Kong. So I'm just
being greedy. Really, I'd like a new Luigi's Mansion. I'd
like a new Mario those those are the kind of
things that speak to me, or a new main Pokemon
game and not the one that's like, yeah, Ditto Adventures
or whatever that was called.
Speaker 1: So would Mario Maker fill that void for you? Would
you be thrilled with that?
Speaker 2: I'd be you very thrilled with that. Mario Maker would
definitely be one that that I would get behind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that it's bound to happen, But
considering it's Mario's fortieth anniversary and they didn't announce it. It
makes me think that they weren't cooking that up. But
I don't know that the fortieth Mario stuff was a
little disappointed in general. But that's I don't know.
Speaker 2: The pot has over boiled and water is spilling everywhere
and smoke is steaming. That's that's how I felt.
Speaker 1: Jesus, Wow, what is this world description? Like?
Speaker 2: Sorry, they just they they did a good job at
getting up you know, some excitement by oh Mario this,
Mario that, but like getting that Yoshi game not for me,
you know, but to each his own. I'm sure someone's
gonna be happy with that. And what was the other
stuff that they they showed?
Speaker 1: What was the other Well, the biggest thing that they said,
the biggest way to sober this is the Mario movie.
So if you're a gamer, get in line.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be waiting to play that on my my
switch to No, I don't think so, because yeah, you
can't put a disc.
Speaker 1: In that bad boy. They don't have YouTube or Netflix
on there like they used to once once upon a time, right,
or maybe they have YouTube. I don't even think they
have YouTube anymore.
Speaker 2: They had the Netflix app on the Wii. That's right.
They didn't do that on the Wii.
Speaker 1: You know, they had on the the we you I remember,
that's how I watched Netflix, I think back in the
time originally for a minute there and yeah, the Switch
never got a Netflix think it had a YouTube app.
I think I might even be wrong about that. I
might be thinking about three. Yes, I don't even know
if I'm right with that, but uh yeah, and then yeah,
don't forget that. There's there's uh the racing bib for
the for the Tokyo Marathon or whatever. So that's a
big thing. You know, if you're gonna go to the
Mario Museum in Japan, the ticket special ticket, So come on, tay,
these thing's okay, mar Galaxy, Mario Galaxy. I guess that's
what they wanted you to do. Get the remakes or
not even remakes, but re releases of Galaxy one and two.
Speaker 2: So I have to commit and indulge a little bit
more into the first Galaxy.
Speaker 1: I guess you have that.
Speaker 2: I do have it. I do have it. So if that,
you know, if i'd be that and it satisfies my
ish that maybe I will drop some Coin and get
Mara Galaxy too, but we'll see.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, obviously, as we've discussed in this conversation, there's
many games that we kind of went back to. Oh
forgot about this, Oh forgot about that. We went back
and had little tangents anything else off the top of
your head right now that you're like, oh, we forgot
to mention this, there's this era, this genre, anything we
haven't talked about yet. Obviously, this in theory could be
a multiple hour long conversation. But any big points that
we haven't struck yet.
Speaker 2: Let me look around my room.
Speaker 1: I can't think of a console. I can't think of
a console that I think you would have forgotten. I
think we've been pretty thorough at this point.
Speaker 2: I did. I did get an original Xbox after. This
was after three sixty period, like time this might have been. No,
this is during three sixty. This was much later. Got
original Xbox one. I think my mom got it from
like the not a pawn shop, thrift store something like that,
brought home and so I started clicking original three sixty
original Xbox games, which I do have quite a few
of them still. I think I sent a photo to
the chat I had like Ninja Gaiden and a few
other titles for original Xbox Marwind a few Ghost recon
titles too, so there's there's a few that I have
for it. I don't know what happened to it, though,
and I'm quite sad that I've I've never been able
to find it. I've always kept it in this certain
like tote bag, and I have the tote bag, but
it's not in there, and I don't know what happened
to it. So I'm I'm kind of sad about that
because I.
Speaker 1: Wish you've like moved recently, so normally that's when those
things would get misplaced. That's strange. Yeah, you've rub into
a rot or not or something you leaved at Ruben's
house and then he moved.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean if anything. Yeah, I just
no idea, no idea what happened with it?
Speaker 1: Right? Strange, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: I can't think of anything else.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: I used to have a much bigger video game collection.
My library was huge. But it's something that I you know,
I simmered down, garbed a lot of the games, sold
a lot of the games, and when I back in
twenty ten, when I worked at the movie theater. For
some reason, I just kept her seats. So I'd be going,
like every paycheck, you know, back then, you're making I
think I was making seven to fifty an hour. It
was low, low, low, low, brutal, but you know, every
paycheck was good. It was like three hundred and fifty bucks.
Oh my god. So I was going to EB.
Speaker 1: Games and I was buying Helly games.
Speaker 2: I was doing the wrong shit. Kids, if you're listening,
don't do that. Don't do what Uncle Taylor did. Just
put your money into RSPs. Save that shit, go to school.
So I kept all the re seats, and I remember
after one year, my mom was like, yeah, clean your room.
So she was helping me clean up my room and
I was going through and I had this big stack
wad of re seats. I want to say it was
like up like three thousand dollars of just like video game.
Speaker 1: Wow. I really don't think I want to know how
much money I've spent on video games over the years.
It's probably no ft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think that you're gonna make a difference and
you're gonna stop, but you don't. Yeah, you buy hell
Divers too.
Speaker 1: You buy, like I said, this weekend I went to
the used game store and bought like five Tony Hok
games that I don't need, so that's definitely relatable. Thankfully,
I did have credit at that store at least, so
I didn't technically spend money if you want to use
that kind of math, you know, But anyway, that's how
it works. Taylor, this was great. I feel like we
really found some good hidden secret pockets, things that have
never come up before. I learned a lot about you.
I'm sure the fans that's too. I think you learned
a little bit about yourself, remembering some things you thought
you forgot. You know, a long bott we can't remember
what I haven't forgotten or whatever that line he says
in the movie is. So this was really great. Thank
you so much for joining me. As I said, I
definitely want to do this with Kirkland and Travis at
some point too. I think it would be fun to
go through and hear their history as well. But I
hope everyone enjoyed something a little different here on side Quest.
Let me know if you want to get more of these,
And yeah, thank everyone for listening. We will be back
again next week. Have a good one. Bye.