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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly

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video game show here at Geekbursus. I'm your host el.

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Mustnt with me the field of Fields, Taylor, mother freaking field.

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How's it going, my friend, It's going pretty good.

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Speaker 2: You know, just fliming the dream day by day, second

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by second.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a great way to live on. I'm so

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happy for you. That's amazing. Yeah, I'm excited for this episode.

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It's it's gonna be kind of a laid back show.

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One like for the first week in like two months,

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we don't have like a random Nintendo direct that popped

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up very little in the news cycle, so we just

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kind of to go back to the bag, the endless

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bag of topics and what I wanted to do for

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all you, Travis en Kirkland just so happens that year

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here today is to really go through your guys, like

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gaming history from start to finish, your first you know,

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the first game, first colls you ever played, and kind

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of just follow through the eras like the big landmark

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moments and your gaming career leading up to today all

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these years later. So that's what we'll get to a

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little bit later on. But first something that came up

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during our Patreon exclusive episode of our Top ten and

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game ranking of all Time, which actually you can hear

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a bit of that on the side quest feed. There's

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a little preview I put up there. You had brought

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up Stronghold. I believe it's specifically Stronghold Crusader, right, mm hmm, yeah,

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which is which is you know, one of one of

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your favorite games, a game that you really enjoy, have

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lot of installed it for. And then I was like, Okay,

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let's let's bookmark that because I want to talk about

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Stronghold at some point in the future, and now is

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the time to do that because I have I have

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a very short history with Stronghold, nothing like you, but

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I I feel like it is such a random, niche

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game that I wanted to bring it up again because

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back in the day, I think it was Stronghold Too,

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was a PC game that just happened at my happen

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to be at my house. I don't know where it

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came from. I don't remember like being at the store

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and be like, hey, mom and dad, can you buy

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this for me? So it was just one one day

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Strong Old was at my house, stuck it in the

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family computer and downloaded it, booted it up, but then

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after like ten fifteen minutes or something, it it would crash,

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boot it up again, crash. Uh you know, uninstall, reinstall,

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try again tomorrow, you know, plug this thing in backwards,

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do all all the stuff, and it could just it

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was just never working. It would work for like maybe

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twenty minutes and then it would crash. And so it

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was kind of like, oh man, this is like perfect.

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I feel like in that era. I love Lord of

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the Rings and you know, Fable and Elder scrolls and stuff,

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so I have like a fantasy kind of medieval or

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I guess more medieval setting like game that kind of

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looked like roller Coaster Tycoon. I was just another thing

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I played back in the back in that day. I

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was like, oh man, I really really want to play this.

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And then this specific memory I have is one one

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fateful night after trying to play this game for hours

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and it not working. I went to bed, woke up

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the next morning, and my dad was like, oh, actually

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I got the game to work for like two hours straight.

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I just played like a bunch last night, and I

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was like no, and it was never able to replicate that.

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So it was like a one time fluke, and I

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don't know, maybe he lied to me. That's possible too,

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because he's not really a gamer, so I'm kind of

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surprised that he would have sat there and played for

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so long. But anyway, that is my very short history

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of Stronghold. And it's like, now, I'm sure all these

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games are on Steam and they would definitely work on

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my computer and I could go back and cross that off,

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and so it feels like a white whale and I

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kind of just I just forget that it exists. And

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so that's why I was so glad when you brought

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it up on that episode. But yeah, Stronghold, is that

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like have you played other other games or was it

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just Crusader that was kind of the one for you?

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And have you played two specifically?

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Speaker 2: Do you know that I have played two? I also

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did run into issues with that game, so I.

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Speaker 1: Never wonderful, never super poorly optimized or something.

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Speaker 2: It had problems. It had a lot of problems. But

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for me, the first my first foot in the door

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was the original Stronghold and that was when I was

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back in like grade six five, two thousand and six period,

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and I remember my going to my friend's house he

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was playing on computer. I thought this game was just

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so much fun, and we just went into the map

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editor mode and we take turns. I would do one thing,

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he would do one thing, and that said, okay, you

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got your units, his units, and we would just take

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turns clicking and doing like versus battles. It was so

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: And so when my elementary school did a huge garage

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sale for the community in the gym, and I was

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walking around there with my mom and I saw someone

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selling Stronghold for PC for like three bucks, Like, oh

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my gosh, okay, this is my chance to own it.

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computer and play the daylights out of it. And it's

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just one of those games where you have a really

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fun storyline campaign that you can play, and then you've

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got just like builder mode where build your castle in

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this area, and then if you want, like you can

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can set up certain things, and I'm I'm a huge

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sucker for creating scenarios, scenario based gameplay where I can

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set up certain things and I can play out certain things.

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so in here, while you build your castle and build

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all your units, build your farm, your lands, whatever, then

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you can I think it was like f one, you

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hit that and it pops up this menu where you

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can choose what you can customize the invading army that appears.

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can have like all these different things hit like and

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it just it makes the role playing that much more fun.

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at peak Kingdom tier or whatever, I would just hit

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myself with plague and famine and all this stuff and

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then just all the odds against me. And so that's

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that's where it kind of like hit. And then when

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I discovered Strong Crusader a Walmart for eight bucks, like

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three years later, it's like this is even crazier because

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they've got a whole new roster of villains or characters

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that you can verse, a whole bunch of new units,

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which was just awesome, so much fun, and just it

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was just that's the one where Okay, my friends in

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high school we're playing it. We're reversing each other now

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and like online, like it was just such a whole

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new dynamic and those two stand the test of time.

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Those are still really really played now. I would say

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even though they've done Stronghold three, Stronghold Legends, Stronghold Warlords,

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the roster goes on for different Stronghold games, but it

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just doesn't compare to the Stronghold the Crusader.

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Speaker 1: I forget if we talked about this on the episode

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the Top ten one, like did did we talk about

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the fact that because I was just looking up and like,

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Stronghold Crusader got like a definitive edition literally this year

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that that came out.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we talked about it, but yeah,

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it got I have to I want to see and

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look at everything that's included with that. Because Crusaders had

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a few versions. It had like Strong Crusader HD, then

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Extreme Edition came out, and so they've had a few,

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a creative what does that include?

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Speaker 1: I wonder, let's see, yeah, take it take again from that.

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like I don't know that like that Sandbox Nature doing

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that freedom, they habituality to like spawn, which any means

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it's almost like you're designing a little game, right, Like

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I feel like that's like you know, you know kids

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first like game design course or something, which is really

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cool to come up with scenarios like that. I feel

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like I would do that in games back in the

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day where it didn't even have those mechanics where you

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can like send a plaguer yourself. I would just like

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picture things or imagine things or pretend that those things

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are happening. So that kind of feels like the ultimate

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fantasy for especially what I would have been into that

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age too, of just like oh, I can just build

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up like a huge Lord of Rings castle and like

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simulate the Battle of Helm's Deep or whatever and like

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just get super creative with it and all these things. Uh,

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think of another game that has like that level of freedom.

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I guess, but to make it like easy where you

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literally have to click one button and then can like

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spawn in these things, like that's that's really cool, especially

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Speaker 2: It's Yeah, again, there's there's so many cool things that

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Crusader was able to bring. Looking at what they've they

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I can't stress enough Stronghold is a huge part of

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my gaming career, my legacy as a gamer, and just

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looking at it out, they've added a whole bunch of

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new units, which is like, excuse me, I did not

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know this was.

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Speaker 1: Like, were those from an expansion back in the air,

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Speaker 2: New, these are brand new, brand new. They got guys

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on camels now new like combat units like this is

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absolutely sick. And they added new Ai lords. So one

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of the biggest thing.

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Speaker 1: Good reviews for the Definite Division two, which is always

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a good sign.

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Speaker 2: I think I might I might have to pick that

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up because that's what's just sold me right there, the

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new units alone, because.

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Speaker 1: Like twenty five bucks not too bad for like a

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new bad not bad at all.

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Speaker 2: Like the original Stronghold, you get the medieval based units

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like nights nights on horseback, archers, pikeman, spearman, maceman, that

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kind of stuff, crossbowman. When you get to Crusader, it

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got really exciting because then you have those original characters

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or units you can bring in, but then all of

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a sudden it's expanded. You got horse archers, you got assassins,

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you got Arabic so like knights. You got all these

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new characters that they threw in there, which is really exciting.

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the Ai lords too, they make up such a huge

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component of the game. Again with Stronghold one, you got

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the wolf, the pig, the rat, and then you get

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and the snake, and then in Crusader you've got like

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the scorpion, and you've got the like saladein like Richard Lyonhart.

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unique combat tactics that they employ and combat like defensive

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maneuvers too, and unique castle designs, and some of them

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are just such a pain to take on. But again

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Speaker 1: I love that they kind of kept that original style,

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like it still looks like roller coaster tacooon like in

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terms of that art style, rather than like turning it

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into three D, which I know other games in the

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series had, and I think like a Stronghold two is

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like three D graphics, which is probably why it couldn't

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run on my computer back in the day. But it's

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just like that, but like glossed up they have like

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in the Steam page, like a here's what the market

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a little more detail, a little more like shadows and

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you buy this because I want to hear your thoughts

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on this and maybe pick it up myself and get

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm beyond like ecstatic to this, Like I I

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honestly did not know the Definitive Edition was actually a thing.

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I just thought it was just another version of.

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Speaker 1: Crusaders, So sure, yeah, great. And I guess because like

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back then, were you able to do online play with

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your friends or or was it only like that kind

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of as you mentioned where you were just kind of

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you and your friend will one piece. He would be

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a messing around.

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Speaker 2: I think the original Stronghold didn't have it. Stronghold Crusader did.

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It had the ability to go online and connect in lobbies,

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but it was extremely broken. So what you had to

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do was there's a program called game Ranger, which a

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lot of people use it for Age of Mythology connecting online.

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and what game Ranger does is create a server that

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you can connect and play multiplayer battles with. So here

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I am. I get on game Ranger, and my friends

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would get on a game Ranger, and then we'd be

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able to connect in stronghol Crusader lobbies and battle online remotely,

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which was just perfect.

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Speaker 1: Would you ever just like make towns and kingdoms and

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like never actually have combat or anything like you would?

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Would you ever just like sit around for a few

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hours and just make a cool looking kingdom?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I would. Eventually I would get to the point

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where like, oh, you know, I wish that I could

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get into the combat. And that's why the first Stronghold

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was so great, because it's like, oh I can just

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I could I can put in an army to invade

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my lands.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, man, that's great. I uh was a fun

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little rabbit hole was a Stronghold and games like that,

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just the weird little niche pockets, but it's perfect. Anything

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any other thoughts on the Stronghold that you won't share here.

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Speaker 2: The original Stronghold also has a definitive edition, which I

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was aware of, but the Crusader version completely went over

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my head. That one's nineteen bucks.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Yeah, that could be another nice one to

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jump into there. Okay, let's talk about some of the

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games been playing. I feel like for you it's mostly

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more Hell Divers. But anything else or do you want

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to talk more about Hell Divers? Say anything new to share?

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, what else do I have on the

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hell Divers front? Yeah? Because I have not really touched

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any other games. No, it's just been leveling up more,

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ranking up more, and just learning out like specific tactics

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and whatnot, and just you know, mucking around with the

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hive lords and stuff. But I guess we faced off

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the automatons for the first time, so that was a

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very new experience because it was very different from the

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Illuminate and the I can't remember what they're called. The

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IRAQNS is what I'm gonna call them. The Insights of

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the Bugs. Yeah, because one thing that we were dealing

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with was like, okay, like the units are very different.

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You got flamethrower robots that are charging at you and

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blast flames, and then you've got to destroy these bases.

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And these bases have like sniper accurate towers on them,

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which was very difficult to deal with, but it was

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fun to you know, change your arsenal where you plan

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to bring into combat like turrets and everything. Against the bugs,

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it's like, okay, well you can't really do that. Against

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the robots. You might have to pack that portable shield

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and a few other things to really change the game

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a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like they have a similar mentality

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to like their weak spots in terms of like usually

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on their back somewhere there's like something you can hit.

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But I feel like with the bugs, like it's usually

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it's like a feeling like I'm much bigger area, so

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you can be less precise. You really just got to

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be in the right like position, whereas with the robots,

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like not only is it like on their backs, so

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they're not like generally facing that towards you. But then

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it's also like a small little vent or something like that.

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And obviously you can just like bomb them or hit

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them with fire like things that are gonna hit their

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whole body and deal damage, but to like go for

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those precise spots feels it feels a lot more mechanical

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in that way, like you gotta be a lot more precise.

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So I like that little change, and even like the

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change of setting two. The kind of like swamps of

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deg above vibes mixed with robots is like, I don't know,

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a fun kind of fusion there, and so yeah, I

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had a really good time with that. And I also

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feel like the main robots, like the little like fodder ones,

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seemed like super buggy, which is funny because that like

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kind of fits for like these janky little robot aies.

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But like sometimes I would just find like a clump

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of like twenty of them just like glitched out by

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the river, like not doing anything. But then I was like, Okay,

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this is a good chance for me to just get

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twenty clean kills and maybe go for first on the

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leader board and look like I did a lot more

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than I actually did. But yeah, I mean, like the

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scanner uh flying scanner ships like that? Is it a

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terrifying thing that you're kind of always having to watch

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out for them. They just never seem to end and

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it's like they're really hard to kill them, mixing that

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within like all the ground troops and whatnot. So yeah,

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I've been having a good time with Hall Divers's tricky

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because like when I'm playing with you or Travis or whoever,

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it's like I'm the lowest level in the lobby usually,

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so I'm just trying. I feel like I can usually

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stick with it, but i just feel like in terms

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of like strategy, I'm not really there. I'm kind of

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just like a hired gun, Like I'm just a mercenary

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pretty much, whereas you guys are like kind of telling

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me where to go. I'm getting lost all the time.

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But yeah, we definitely had some good matches over the weekend,

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some clutch couple clutch victories, one or two clutch law

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or I think just the one loss, right, But we

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still got some good XP even though we lost. But yeah, no,

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I'm having a great time with the game. Have you

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tried that like the dragon stuff? Because I saw a

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bunch of people complaining about the dragons, which they recently added.

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Speaker 2: I've not faced a dragon. I don't know if you

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count like the flying little guys out of the high No.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look the I think they're I thought they like.

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Speaker 2: Big wire breathing dragon. Yeah, the big big one. I've

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not faced it yet. I'm not sure where to find

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that one.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it. They'd be like a bug in

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the bug world.

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Speaker 2: They are. That's exactly where they are.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, maybe they're like a world event thing you

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have to go, like a specific zone or something. I'm

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not sure.

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Speaker 2: It might be that I've been watching videos and some

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reels and some crazy stuff and like just dealing with

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the big worm, the doing worm, the high lords. That's

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all kind of worms intended. I saw two of them

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in one map, which is pretty crazy. But this guy,

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like it looks like there's submissions where you have like

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a giant tanker unit that you have to escort, and

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so these people were like on it and it was

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just it's huge. It's like an elephant from Halo three.

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And this thing is moving very slowly and then the

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hive lord like comes up from underneath it and launches

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it into the air. It just was pure chaos, absolute chaos.

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Speaker 1: Hell Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess the one good

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thing of me being lower levels. I'm getting a lot

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of xps. I'm leveling up pretty quick, getting some new

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things on lock aways, some good stuff in there. You

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have the mech now, which is really great, super fun

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and super strong. But yeah, no, it's it's I feel like, yeah,

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I'll really satisfying just kind of upgrade tree though there's

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so many things to do and switch out things I have,

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like gun customization, which I got in our last session,

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so I've been doing a little bit of that. So yeah,

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it's it's super good. I think it'll just be kind

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of an evergreen title for us if they will just

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come back to it for years to come, just like

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hopping every once in a while. And right now we're

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playing quite a bit, so yeah, shut it's a hell

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Divers two uh for me. I don't have too much

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new this week. I last week's shared with Kirkland, I

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was playing Tony Hawks three plus four, which came out

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earlier this year, and then I just I just couldn't

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stop playing, So I played all of that and then

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I I've been waiting for this game of going game

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pass for years and it's just not happening. But Tony

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Hawks one plus two because they own that game and studio,

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and they put three plus four on game Pass, so

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I'm like, well, I don't know wber one plus two is,

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but it seems like it's not coming at this point.

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So I was like, fuck it, I'm just gonna finally

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buy this game and Foods on sale on PlayStation. That's

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the only knowing thing is like, I'm playing Tony Hawks

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one plus two and three plus four, and I wish

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it was like, hey man, we're these levels all just

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combined into one game, and you could just boot up

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and have like, oh, here's like thirty levels you can

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play all once. But I got a boot between them

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and now I have them like two separate consoles. So

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I'm just flipping between the consoles trying to get used

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to stuff. And that's what I mentioned to you on

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Discord that I discovered that there was some weird setting

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on my Xbox. I was putting some input leg that

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I don't normally notice, So I don't know if it's

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just a Tony Hawk glitch thing or if it's just

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because that game requires like such quick, precise inputs, and

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that's where I was like noticing it a lot more.

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But I fixed that up and now been having a

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good time kind of getting back into those levels and

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all that. So plowed through both those games and like

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going through them over and again, just doing some of

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the challenges, bonus stuff, having a great time with that.

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And then I went to a used game store and

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picked up some other Tony Hawkins from back in the

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day that I never really played. So Thug two is

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the main one I've been playing there, which is a

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big blind spot for me because I love Tonyox Undergrounds,

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one of my favorite games of all time, and it

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is my favorite game in the series, and so it's

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weird that I've never played the sequel, which is it's

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just a weird game. I don't know if you know

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much about Tony Koks Underground too, but that game was

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pretty much like pretty much a crossover with Jackass, Like

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you have all the people from Jackass in there, well

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not all of them, like Johnny Knox was not in there,

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but you get like we mean and benmar Jare and

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BAM's dad and all this stuff, and like the story

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is very jackassy, or they're just going around like doing

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stupid stuff like destroying things and whatnot. So I feel

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like it's very much getting away from that pro skater

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gameplay of just like really intense game skateboarding mechanics, like

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you're grabbing tomatoes and like throwing them at bowls to

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go get them to the attack people and all this

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crazy stupid stuff. Unfortunately, the game is like, so it's

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an original Xbox game. I'm playing on three sixty, so

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it works, but it's like kind of laggy. Apparently this

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game is just like not it's like one of the

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few games that's just like not really optimized that well,

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like if you played specifically on the three sixty. So

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it's a little bit laggy. But I've still been playing

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through a bunch of that. So yeah, I'm just on

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a big Tony Hawk kick right now, which has been

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really fun. Uh, and yeah, I'm gonna keep playing some

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more one plus two, three plus four, And I think

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what I'm gonna do because this is the thing I've

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seen streamers do and like other content creators, is they

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celebrate October. So the month of October they just do

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some Tony Hawk content and so I think I'm gonna

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do the same. I'm gonna do a Tony Hawk ranking

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rank my top twenty five favorite levels or something, so

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look forward to that in the coming weeks. People put

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that probably has a little solo episode out on the

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side quest feed. So yeah, it's been really funn to

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get back in Tony Hawk. Ands. It's weird because like

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a couple of weeks ago, like the New Skate came

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out in like early Access, and I don't really get

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interested in playing that until it's like one point zho.

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But just between three plus four come out this year Skate.

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It's like, I don't know, maybe a bit of a

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skateboarding renaissance. There's a couple of big skateboarding games that

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look pretty cool too that are coming out soon. So yeah,

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just that you know, we're gonna talk about your gaming eras,

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and I feel like for me, skateboarding games were like

477
00:20:46,799 --> 00:20:48,640
a big part of a couple of airing you know,

478
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,640
gaming eras in my life, but that hasn't been the

479
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,599
case for like at least a decade. It's been a while,

480
00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:54,119
so it's kind of fun to get back in there,

481
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,319
and especially Tony Hawk, which is how Arcadie it is

482
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,039
and over the top and crazy and whatnot. So that's

483
00:20:59,079 --> 00:21:00,599
been really fun. And like, I haven't played a lot

484
00:21:00,599 --> 00:21:02,440
of those maps before, so it's all kind of even

485
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,440
though the remakes of earlier games, the games I'd never

486
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,839
really played back in the day, so it's kind of

487
00:21:05,839 --> 00:21:08,039
all fresh and new, and the remakes are good and

488
00:21:08,079 --> 00:21:10,599
they look great and all that. So just having a

489
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,000
ton of fun with some some Tony Hawk stuff hopefully

490
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,440
can bring some of that up on the twenty four

491
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,119
Hours Dream this year, because we did that last year,

492
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,920
I think for a little bit, but I was so

493
00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:21,799
rusty and now I'm a freaking god, so now I

494
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,920
want to show off my skills in the room. Yeah,

495
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,000
looking forward to that. Yeah, that's pretty much it though.

496
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,519
Other than that, I have played nothing else, I don't think.

497
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,880
Yeah I did. I released a Hollow Night bonus episode

498
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for anyone who missed that, doing some spoiler thoughts on

499
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,880
Hollo of Night. I've finished that game now, or at

500
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,079
least one of the endings I finished, So yeah, you

501
00:21:43,079 --> 00:21:44,720
can go check out all of that. I think what

502
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we'll do is take a quick break before we get

503
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into Taylor's history. Hear'ing going to thank our Patron producers

504
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505
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506
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507
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508
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509
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510
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and we do it every month, so every time is

511
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a good time to join. Check it out. But if

512
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you're not on Patron, you gotta listen to some ads.

513
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I'm so sorry about that, but that's just the way

514
00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:24,640
she goes. So we'll be right back. Okay, we are

515
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:31,400
back here with Taylor Field. So Taylor kind of sprung

516
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,839
this on you but mere hours ago. So it's not

517
00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:36,319
like we've been, you know, making a documentary of your

518
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,519
gaming career for the last three months and we're ready

519
00:22:38,519 --> 00:22:40,240
to unveil it. It's a little off the cuff, even

520
00:22:40,279 --> 00:22:41,920
though it said as I said, it's something I've been

521
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,599
wanting to do for a bit here, but I kind

522
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,920
of want to learn about you and I want the

523
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,640
audience to get a chance to learn more about you,

524
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,440
and you're just I don't know when you think about

525
00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:51,440
your time with video games, maybe you don't think about

526
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,839
this stuff the way I do, but I'm always overthinking

527
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,279
these things. I don't know when you think about your

528
00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,000
life and gaming, is there like distinct eras for you,

529
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,279
or like were you really into these kinds of games

530
00:23:02,279 --> 00:23:03,839
back in the day. Now you don't play those at all,

531
00:23:04,039 --> 00:23:05,880
and now these days you played different things and you

532
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,039
did then. I don't know, do you do you think

533
00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:09,319
about that at all? Or is it kind of just

534
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,799
been one long, slowly transitioning thing throughout your whole life.

535
00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: Ah my goodness, It's it's transitioned. But I feel like

536
00:23:20,519 --> 00:23:22,799
where I'm at now, it's something that has just kind

537
00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:25,200
of come full circle. And I'm still going back and

538
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,039
playing old titles like Oh, I'll go back and I'll

539
00:23:28,079 --> 00:23:32,799
play Hello Reach, go back and play old Luigi's Mansion,

540
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,880
you know, Yeah, Stronghold Bar, Sunshine and just old classics

541
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:42,640
that really were nostalgically pleasing for me, that kind of stuff,

542
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,440
And I just it's just comes from a place where

543
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:47,200
I like the newer renditions and the sequels and whatnot,

544
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,160
But those newer ones necessarily aren't just scratching my itch.

545
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,640
I mean, they scratch part of it. But there's just

546
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,839
certain things that those old ones. I like, I could

547
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,000
go and I could get Mario Odyssey, but I have

548
00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:01,039
the ability to pop on on Sunshine on my switch.

549
00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:03,119
I'm gonna do Sunshine instead of Honestly, I don't have

550
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,200
much of a calling for that. So that's an example

551
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,039
for sure.

552
00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Okay, take me back then rewind the tape.

553
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,319
Do you have a very first gaming memory, the first

554
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,440
game you played, or the first game that you remember

555
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,799
seeing maybe like a fanily member play or like, I

556
00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:20,160
don't know, we're an at arcade obviously we weren't really

557
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,079
around in the big arcade era, just based on our age.

558
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,160
But I don't know what is your first gaming memory

559
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:26,960
if you have one.

560
00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:34,319
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I remember my older brother he had

561
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,359
a Nintendo sixty four, and then I remember going over

562
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,440
to my friend's house once after elementary school ended, and

563
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,079
he had a Nintendo sixty four and it was Donkey Kong.

564
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:50,440
Donkey Kong was one of the earliest ones that we played. Okay, Oh,

565
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,720
there was other stuff that my brother had. My brother

566
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:54,400
had other consoles too, like.

567
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Speaker 1: He had.

568
00:24:56,519 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: Like Atari, so where I was like some really old stuff.

569
00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:02,920
But I can't remember that that well. I just I

570
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,839
have a faint memory of the room being very dark

571
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,119
in one of his old houses with him. He this

572
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,799
is when he had his first kid, his wife, and

573
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,480
I was in the living room, but it was dark

574
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:16,799
and the screen was just black and white. But it

575
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,920
was like it wasn't Pong. Maybe it was. It was

576
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,640
another game, but it was something old school. It wasn't

577
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,720
on the N sixty four. But that's one of the

578
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,599
oldest memories I have.

579
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: Were you playing the Atari or were you just like

580
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,960
like it was just on and I was, I was

581
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:32,440
playing it.

582
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 2: I was definitely playing it. And I remember playing a

583
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,680
little bit of Mario Party two on his N sixty four.

584
00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:39,400
He had he had some of that. I can't remember

585
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,519
which one, but it was a very very long time

586
00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:48,440
ago when things got real, though, I'd say maybe a

587
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,400
little bit before that even too. I mean, my dad

588
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,599
had Wolfenstein three D on the floppy and then he

589
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,079
had Flight sim on the Floppy two. So I played

590
00:25:56,079 --> 00:25:59,240
a lot of that. That was a lot of fun.

591
00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:03,240
But afterwards, when things got very real, that would have

592
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:09,480
been would have been the the the Ness era.

593
00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:13,799
Speaker 1: So well, yeah, yeah, because because I mean, and the

594
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,599
orders could be all but like interesting that like N

595
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,319
sixty four is maybe a first Marrior but then N

596
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,440
E s So how does that? How does that?

597
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: So? Yeah? N sixty four and then my first console

598
00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:28,200
would have been game Boy Color and it would have

599
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,240
been the Purple One. And for that I had Pokemon Blue.

600
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,640
I had Mario Tennis, and I remember I had a

601
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,559
Mega Man game as well that was a lot of fun,

602
00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:39,000
But Pokemon Blue is what I played my heart out of.

603
00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: I played you remember what Mega min Mega Man game

604
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:41,759
that was.

605
00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: Oh mm hmm.

606
00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: Let me take a look and see. Uh yeah, I

607
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,839
don't know what's on that console for Mega Man games.

608
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: I remember the cartridge is like translucent because it was

609
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,440
for Game Boy Color.

610
00:27:04,519 --> 00:27:08,279
Speaker 1: Mmm, it looks like there was five Okay. I think

611
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:10,319
they kind of looks like maybe they like remakes of

612
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,880
like some some of the ne E S S and

613
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,400
E S games which mad like there was a lot

614
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,000
of games like that, Like I think, uh, Donkey Kong

615
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,839
Right had kind of had that situation too, where they

616
00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:23,240
had like Donkey Kong Land Right, which was like a

617
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,039
which were like remakes of like the Donkey Kong Country games.

618
00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:27,960
But just like on the game Boy version, so like

619
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,880
a little bit turned down. So maybe just I guess

620
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,759
it would been it would have been one two three

621
00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:36,680
or five one two three, four or five maybe Mega

622
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,319
Man Extreme two, Mega an Extreme too.

623
00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 2: Pretty confident. This this is it, This looks like it.

624
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:49,119
It was it. This is like triggering serious memory.

625
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:55,559
Speaker 1: Oh that's a great boxer yeah Extreme two.

626
00:27:57,039 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, the gameplay just it's triggering me, especially I can't

627
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,240
remember who this character is, but he's got like the

628
00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:05,440
hair or she's got the hair. Not sure what what

629
00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:08,880
character that is, but yeah, there's just yeah, m well

630
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,200
memory jog, holy smokes, memories.

631
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,279
Speaker 1: No, that's good. That's what I'm hoping for here. I'm

632
00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:17,160
hoping to find some weird spots that you haven't thought

633
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,640
about or that I haven't come up on the podcast before.

634
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,279
Speaker 2: This was so the game Boy.

635
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: That was the first thing you owned, though, Like this

636
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,000
is taylor Fields, yeah, Tom.

637
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:30,279
Speaker 2: Taylor Fields, taylor Field's console. Nothing entertainment wise, TV wise yet,

638
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:34,680
just the handheld. And so when my cousin and he

639
00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:37,279
my cousin, my aunt, they were living with they live

640
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:39,319
with my grandma and my grandpa at the time, and

641
00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:40,799
I'd always go over there for like two weeks for

642
00:28:40,839 --> 00:28:43,920
summer vacation stuff like that, and that's when he got

643
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:47,000
the nests. Okay, this is cool, so we played it.

644
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:51,200
We're playing. Mario was the big one. The original Mario

645
00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:52,799
was like the big, big one that's on the character.

646
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,599
Sorry to share with duck Hunt.

647
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,519
Speaker 1: Just to confirm. This is after the Atarian sixty four stuff.

648
00:28:58,519 --> 00:28:59,279
Speaker 2: This is after all that.

649
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I love I love this kind of weird

650
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:04,480
reverse order of Nintendo like that, that's amazing.

651
00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:07,079
Speaker 2: We didn't get stuff like the new new stuff, and

652
00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:09,920
my cousin eventually started to get stuff like new New,

653
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,359
but like his introduction, like I think it was my

654
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,759
grandma and grandpa like got the Nintendo Entertainment System.

655
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's similar for me in though,

656
00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:20,400
the sense that Likens was my first console and to

657
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,079
me as a kid, that felt like, oh, this is

658
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,200
what a video game is. But it's like the n

659
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,000
sixty four I think was already released at that time.

660
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,960
That's just like when I was getting a console, or

661
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,920
like the NCP four it was just about to release,

662
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,640
so completely skipping the SNS not didn't have a game

663
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,119
Boy yet, so it's like, yeah, obviously, just based on

664
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,599
where we are born, some of these things are thrown off.

665
00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:39,880
But anyway, I love that you've experienced three D gaming.

666
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,319
Obviously Wolfenstein as well, well. I think that was kind

667
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:45,200
of like a faux three D, right, Like it's kind

668
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,759
of the two D images that kind of move around

669
00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:50,440
and look three D. Yeah, yeah, okay, so you've experienced

670
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,359
three D gaming and now we're going back to two

671
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,200
D gaming with the Game Boy and then the nes.

672
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,759
Speaker 2: Yes, I never went to the Super Nintendo. That was

673
00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:00,680
one that skipped and I never had the same for

674
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,920
for it, like it just never any draw and never

675
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,640
anything like that.

676
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: But have you have you with the Intended Switch Online?

677
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,920
Done any digging into that or is it? Are you

678
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:10,680
just like nah, i missed that, and you know it's

679
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,000
not I'm not gonna fill that hole.

680
00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:14,599
Speaker 2: It's not a hole I want I gotta fill. Yeah,

681
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:15,960
I got other things.

682
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: I'll fill someone else can fill that hole.

683
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:21,559
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, But with you with the Nests, it

684
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,359
was Mario and Duck Hunt shared on the same cartridge

685
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,920
that staple and then Oh Bill and Ted's Adventure. My

686
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,920
cousin got that game, which was super well, we would

687
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,960
play it and not have a single clue what we

688
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,079
were doing. But that was a lot of fun. And

689
00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:41,599
then there was Jaws that we played on there and

690
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,400
what other stuff was there. There was a couple other

691
00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:48,200
games for sure, but that was definitely like Mario was

692
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,920
the main one, and we would just play that for

693
00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:53,359
hours trying to see how far we could get. And

694
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,039
that's why to this day, I will I'm so thankful

695
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:58,759
it's on the switch because I will go and I'll

696
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:00,759
just I'll play it. I'll sit in like an hour

697
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:04,680
or two, just really thoroughly enjoying it. I've made it, yes,

698
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,759
So at this point I like to just like speed

699
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:08,400
run it and just try and get through the levels

700
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,880
as fast as possible. But it's just it's so much

701
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,519
fun finding out where the new like Extra Life mushrooms are,

702
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:19,119
just the secret passages. I know where the secret passages are,

703
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:20,519
and that's a lot of fun when you can skip

704
00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:23,640
the worlds and whatnot. But yeah, that game just holds

705
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,640
a special place in my heart for sure. With that

706
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,200
after especially because my grandma would play it too. That

707
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:31,039
was a lot of fun.

708
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,359
Speaker 1: Nice did you do that? Did you play duck Hunt

709
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,200
at all? Because I had that cartridge too, but I've

710
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,559
never actually played duck Hunt. I don't know why.

711
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,359
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, we had the gun accessory and so we

712
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,200
definitely would play that a lot. That was a lot

713
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,519
of fun, but not as often as we'd be playing Mario.

714
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: Mario was definitely the Yeah, yeah, I never had the gun,

715
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,519
so I don't know. I mean, it was a hand

716
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:54,599
me down NS came from a pawn shop or I

717
00:31:54,599 --> 00:31:56,000
don't know where the heck it came from, so I

718
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:58,160
just didn't have the gun with it. But yeah, I

719
00:31:58,279 --> 00:32:00,599
feel like as a kid, I didn't think about, like,

720
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,240
what is this other game on this cartrige that I have?

721
00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:05,559
Were just kind of messed around, But I was just

722
00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:08,240
looking up some screenshots of Bill and Ted's excellent adventure

723
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:11,000
Goddamn love love the art for that. That's oh yeah,

724
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:13,039
that was great. But I can definitely see getting lost,

725
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,160
like not know what's going on, but still just like

726
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,119
like that was me with the Alien three game. I

727
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,480
had on anys no idea what was ever happening, but

728
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:21,200
it was still like thrilling for some reason.

729
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what kept pulling us to

730
00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:25,880
that game. So I think maybe these the art style.

731
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,359
But yeah, it was just such a such an experience.

732
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: One that had you seen Jaws or we just you

733
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,400
were just playing Jaws.

734
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: Oh. We we had seen Jaws at this point. We

735
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,759
were familiar with it, and so the game was It

736
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:40,680
was interesting because you have the map and you move

737
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,880
around on the boat and then you just hit these

738
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,039
spots where now you're a diver and you're under the

739
00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:46,720
water and you're just moving left and right, up and

740
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:49,519
down the shark comes and stuff like that. So it's

741
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:53,759
it's very very arcadie. But that's fine. Yeah, I wish

742
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:56,240
I could remember some other games that we had on there,

743
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:58,559
but I I can't really.

744
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:02,319
Speaker 1: Any other like like a Metroid or a Zelda, like

745
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:05,799
any other like big Nintendo IP character games that you

746
00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:08,640
can call or was it like I feel like License

747
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,440
Games was definitely like a big one back in the day.

748
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,400
And sounds like you obviously had a couple of those.

749
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:18,039
Speaker 2: Racing game maybe did you have a racing game Excite Bike? Yeah,

750
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:23,240
that was oh and punch Out that was another one too.

751
00:33:23,359 --> 00:33:25,680
That was a lot of fun. And I remember we

752
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,200
we got far but we couldn't beat this one boss

753
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:31,640
and my uncle she come he would visit every once

754
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,240
in a while, and he went to my grandparents' house

755
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:37,599
and he's like, here, let me, let me hop on there.

756
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:40,359
And he hops on there and just schools the like kicks.

757
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,440
These guys ass like, oh my gosh, like uncle's is

758
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,599
low key, just pulling the skills out, just taking down

759
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:48,400
the bosses that me and my cousin could take out

760
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,759
and punch out. It was great.

761
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:52,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's Mike Tyson that you could never beat

762
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:53,319
or was it someone else?

763
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,119
Speaker 2: It might have been. I think he's the boss in there. Yeah,

764
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,200
it might have been. To be honest. Between that and

765
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,160
Excite Bike, I'm glad I remember those because those were

766
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,359
definitely two that we we did play. Punch Out was

767
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,400
a lot I remember, just button mashing, trying to get

768
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,119
your character to like a little Mac to get back up.

769
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,079
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, yeah, that was.

770
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:18,199
Speaker 2: Just a lot of button mashing, a lot of fun. Yeah,

771
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:24,920
Oh my goodness. As far as Zelda goes, I can't

772
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,039
remember if we had the game on Ness. I want

773
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:29,639
to say we did, but we didn't touch.

774
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:30,079
Speaker 1: It a lot.

775
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: I ended up getting for game Boy ADVANCESP. I got

776
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:36,559
the original Legends out there for Ness, but on the

777
00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:39,159
game Boy version and I played the dside of that

778
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:43,639
beat it loved it. It was fantastic. And Game Boy

779
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:47,199
Advances P. That was my next step into gaming. Okay,

780
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:50,079
for whatever reason, my mom just like took me to

781
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:53,320
Walmart bought me the purple game Boy Dances P. I

782
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,519
guess the cobalt blue one, which I still have, and

783
00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:59,320
I love that so much. And that was just my

784
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,679
next step into there. And so with that, I got

785
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,480
Pokemon Sapphire, went hard on the Pokemon Sapphire, and then

786
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:11,599
I got, uh, what else? A sonic game? And I

787
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:12,800
got a bionical game.

788
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:13,039
Speaker 1: Two.

789
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: That's just there's so much.

790
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,159
Speaker 1: It was a bionical game, just like a two side

791
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:19,400
scroll and beat them up kind of.

792
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: Nope, No, uh, what game was it? I'll get a

793
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:38,079
title here for you. It was. Is this it? At

794
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:39,760
least three specific?

795
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: There was a Lego one, Lego Bionical, I don't think,

796
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:49,760
I mean it looks like a Touring Adventures? Was it

797
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,199
just bionical the game?

798
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: It was not a torn Adventures? That's the two D

799
00:35:57,559 --> 00:35:58,840
one okay?

800
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,159
Speaker 1: Is it Lego Bonicle? Are you coogle that one might be?

801
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,960
Let me look up some because that one looks like

802
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,320
it has a more isometric style to it, which.

803
00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: Is exactly what the game had. It was definitely not

804
00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:21,880
two d oh. I think it was Lego Bionical. It

805
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,840
looks like let's.

806
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: See which chet does not really look like a Lego

807
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,320
game when you think about Lego.

808
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: But oh no, this looks different.

809
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: Oh there's also Bionical Heroes, apparently.

810
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:44,639
Speaker 2: Bionical Heroes, which is different. Yeah, Bionicle Heroes for game

811
00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:47,239
Boy Advance. So I got that one for GameCube, which

812
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,760
was just fantastic shadows.

813
00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: There are so many freaking biomicals on this console. Maze

814
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,599
of Shadows, no that I love the art of this

815
00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:00,559
game though. Maze of Shadows looks great.

816
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, Maze of Shadows is different. Oh, which one was

817
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,599
it Bionical? It was a me touring game?

818
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: Hmm, game Boy, are you sure it wasn't an original

819
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,119
game Boy game that you were playing this one?

820
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:26,519
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. Oh oh, this cartridge looks familiar. Ah.

821
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,039
Speaker 1: By the way, do you still have all this stuff

822
00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:32,960
or do you or you just kind of have remnants

823
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,840
of the games that you own as a kid.

824
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: I still have a few of these games, maybe the

825
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,400
Lego Bicle game, Like some of the gameplay looks different,

826
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,360
but maybe it is just Lego Boncle. Oh yeah this okay,

827
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,960
here I'll share my screen so you can see what

828
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:55,719
what I found Binocle me touring game.

829
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:02,679
Speaker 1: So the this is definitely the one that oh god damn,

830
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:04,199
I love the colors of this.

831
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:07,079
Speaker 2: This one was just like the Be's knees. I had

832
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,960
so much fun with this.

833
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,599
Speaker 1: This is one of those games that like because because

834
00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:15,519
you know, the original Game Boy Advance like before they

835
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:17,559
had the SP, like didn't have the back light on

836
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,599
the screen, so it's really hard to see ship. This

837
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,679
game feels like, okay, let's make this game extremely bright,

838
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,960
so people who don't have the SP can like see

839
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,159
this game. But when you have an SP, it's probably

840
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:30,880
just like making your eyes bled in the best way possible.

841
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:33,559
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh this is just bringing me

842
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:39,039
back holy smokes. So yeah, this game is absolute. It's fantastic.

843
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,199
It's just so fantastic.

844
00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:43,079
Speaker 1: And and sorry, I wanted to want to go back

845
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:45,760
quickly to the Game Boy which Pokemon it was a

846
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:46,559
blue that you said you.

847
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 2: Had Pokemon game Pokemon blue for the game Boy Pocket

848
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,599
or game Boy Color, and then Pokemon Sapphire for.

849
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,519
Speaker 1: I'm guessing Blue like you love Blue, like you were

850
00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:57,480
a Pokemon fan back then, or was it more with

851
00:38:57,559 --> 00:39:00,000
Advance where you became like a huge, a bigger.

852
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: Poke Advances where I became more of the Pokemon fan

853
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:06,719
like I had with Blue. My save didn't work, so

854
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,280
I could never save my progress, but I'd always keep

855
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,239
playing Regard, I remember, yeah, And at that time too,

856
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,960
the cards were popping off, so I had a collection

857
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,039
of cards. It was just really really exciting. And so

858
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:20,000
I knew when I got my new game Boy that

859
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:21,559
I wanted to get it. So I saved up my money.

860
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:23,280
I had to save up like thirty five bucks as

861
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,920
a kid, and I managed to get the enough and

862
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,360
bought Sapphire from YOUB Games back in the day, no

863
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,480
box or anything. It was a used version that had

864
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,840
little shuffled all the use game Boy Advance games in there,

865
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,880
and so picked that up, and uh, yeah, it was

866
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:42,239
just it was fantastic. I played so much of that game.

867
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,960
It's unbelievable. Done pretty much everything that you can do

868
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:49,320
in it. Hell yeah, and that's probably the most play

869
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,239
game on my game Boy Vance sp actually that makes sense.

870
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:55,599
So but after that, it was the next thing that

871
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:58,280
popped up was the game cube, and it was my

872
00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:01,079
cousin that got it. And for for what he got,

873
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:03,920
he got yeah Sunshine. This was after I think I

874
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,880
told the story when we were in thrifty Foods was

875
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,159
the grocery store down on the coast, and they had

876
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,199
or no, it was quality Foods, sorry, quality foods. They

877
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,119
had a whole area with like an indoor ball pit,

878
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,239
and then's like ceertvs and multiple game cubes and so

879
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,559
we're playing it and my cousin was like, oh, same

880
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:21,880
cousin that we played Nests with, It's like, oh, I want,

881
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,119
I want this game. It was Mario Sunshine. So his

882
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:26,599
dad ended up buying him for his birthday game cube.

883
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:29,440
So when I would go over there, we'd be playing

884
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:38,719
Luigi's Mansion, Mario Sunshine, Melee. What was the other one

885
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:41,400
he had? I think I shared with you the Donkey

886
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,960
Kong Conga Beat one, so he had those drums too,

887
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:49,079
And then what else did he have?

888
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: Party Sports Hazelda.

889
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: Mario Party seven he got later on, And that's why

890
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,159
that game was a huge sweet spot for me. Is

891
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:02,840
my favorite legend Mario Party because I just the time

892
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,599
playing it with him and just the satisfaction of just

893
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:08,760
everything and it's just that game just it speaks to

894
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,320
my heart. I love that game so very much. Zelda's

895
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,679
He Got wind Waker. We played a lot of wind

896
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,320
Waker together. That was a lot of fun. I remember

897
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,079
just playing into like the wee hours, just doing bucking around,

898
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:27,000
trying to do stuff. Usually it was just uh, dealing

899
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:30,360
with the what was the island? It was the first

900
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,719
time you get to like the Bird's Island.

901
00:41:33,639 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's like dragon Roost. There's uh yeah, not

902
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,039
dragon Roost. It was again on set on outset island.

903
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: No, not outset, it was like the where you had

904
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,280
to avoid the search lights and whatnot barrel and so

905
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,440
I got there. Yeah, we just spent so much time

906
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,559
there and then I remember my cousin getting further. When

907
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:53,800
I went back home, I was like, yeah, we have

908
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,360
to go back to that island, Like, oh my god.

909
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,760
So there's there's a lot of fun, a lot of

910
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,960
fun there. And on top of that, what else.

911
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think, like, because you've mentioned a

912
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,000
lot of single player things, so I'm thinking other than

913
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:14,679
Melee and Mario Party seven, Like I guess Double Dash, right,

914
00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:15,920
you would have played that as well.

915
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:20,039
Speaker 2: No, we never got the Double Dash enough the Double Dash.

916
00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:22,199
It was mostly just the single player ones and we

917
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,360
would just be switching taking turns, alternate a.

918
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: Any license games in that in that era that you had, like, uh,

919
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:32,719
I don't know, you know. Obviously Simpsons Hitting Run was

920
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,159
a big one, but like the Incredibles game and anything

921
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:36,199
random like that. Anything.

922
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,199
Speaker 2: There was a Cars that we played a little bit,

923
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:43,639
but other than that, I can't really think of.

924
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: Okay, it was mostly just like these main heavy hitters. Okay,

925
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,480
fair enough. The other one yeah, sorry, go ahead, Yeah

926
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:53,639
it's gonna I was actually gonna rewint, which I keep

927
00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:55,320
doing this, but I don't really rewind a little bit

928
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,800
back to game Boy Advance just to see if we

929
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,559
can do any more mining theres because I love it

930
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:03,719
so much. Obviously, Pokemon, Lego, Bionicle, what else? What else

931
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,440
do you remember anything? I think mainstays once you play.

932
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,679
Obviously Pokemon was your most played, But can you remember

933
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,800
the other ones that you would have had.

934
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: There was a F Zero game that I played.

935
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:18,039
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.

936
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: I played a lot of that one, and then Sonic

937
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:25,880
the Hedgehog three specifically, I think I have I had

938
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:30,519
a Risk Battleships game. For some reason, I love playing

939
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:34,920
Risk on that. That was a lot of fun. Ah

940
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:46,960
what else? Oh, yes, I also had Super Mario World. Yes,

941
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,599
I had Super Mario World on there. And I know

942
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:53,039
that was originally a Super Nintendo game at the time,

943
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:56,199
of course I didn't know. But when it I got it. Uh,

944
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,519
I got it for Game Boy Advance SP. I had

945
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:02,440
just like that was just the Bee's knees I had.

946
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone had that on game Boy evans

947
00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:07,920
like that game. I feel like had a I mean

948
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,159
it was already a big game, but like had a

949
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:11,559
bigger surgeence with being handheld. There.

950
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,599
Speaker 2: Oh here, I'll show you something sec Oh.

951
00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: I always love seeing things.

952
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: I was digging through, uh because we did a garage sale.

953
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,119
We're cleaning up and everything like that, and I had

954
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:32,239
the game cartridge in like my with my other game stuff.

955
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,320
But when I was digging through, I found the box.

956
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:36,880
I found the box for my Game Boy Vance SP,

957
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:39,000
which is as all the old manuals. And then I

958
00:44:39,039 --> 00:44:40,159
found the box.

959
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:47,119
Speaker 1: For Oh nice, that's a clean looking box man. That

960
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:53,320
thing is it is? It got a little a little.

961
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: Like bent there, but like honestly, you know, the box

962
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,039
is like, it's not bad, it's I kind of I

963
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:59,119
feel like that's very non Zelda color palette and I

964
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:01,400
kind of love it for that, like red black and

965
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:04,840
red black white and then like a gold highlight is

966
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:05,519
very cool.

967
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:10,199
Speaker 1: I like that a lot. Yeah, and so that's the

968
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,119
original Zelda, like just on Game Boy Advance pretty much.

969
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: This is the come on game, the original Zelda on

970
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:19,960
game Boy Advance.

971
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:20,559
Speaker 1: Cool.

972
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: I think I can get the game out.

973
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had, I had, Oh nice, that looks great. Yeah,

974
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,719
the ny S collection I think I had, like the

975
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,039
Donkey Kong like any S collection one of that. I

976
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:33,440
guess it was like a little series they were doing.

977
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,119
But I had what did I have? I had a

978
00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:39,840
Link to the Past and Minish Cap on game Boy Advance.

979
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:46,639
Those are the Zelda's. I was a good one. Yeah, nice, okay, okay,

980
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:48,559
so sorry that was the game Boy Advance into the

981
00:45:48,599 --> 00:45:52,559
game Cube and sorry in this era, like any other

982
00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:54,519
PC games that are popping up, are you doing any

983
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:56,840
You're ripping up mini clip dot com? Or is that

984
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,960
with that that a later? Is your dad playing any

985
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,760
other Wolvenstein's like an anything else going on in that time?

986
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was there was the flash Games Mini clip

987
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:14,719
addicting games. Those were two two big ones, and that was, yeah,

988
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:15,960
what what we're playing?

989
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:18,199
Speaker 1: There was trying to remember like the names of those

990
00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:20,480
games because they're all just very They're almost like little

991
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:21,960
dreams lost the time, you know.

992
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:26,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like there was obviously tanks and there's like an

993
00:46:26,639 --> 00:46:29,920
archery game where you can take to shoot the arrow and.

994
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: I remember that game. That game was great. Yeah, I

995
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,239
don't really forgot about that game. What the heck was

996
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:34,599
that game?

997
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: There was another one, Helly Attack. This one I played

998
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,679
a lot of. I'm gonna share my screen, You're gonna

999
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:56,280
kick out of this. This one is clip hellys. So

1000
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,519
it's called Helly Attack.

1001
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,679
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you were just downloading something.

1002
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1003
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: Second, I was like, Elliott, dude, this is yes, yes,

1004
00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:12,400
you have unlocked this for me. You know, Okay, this

1005
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:15,480
is crazy. So maybe about a year ago, me and Kirklin,

1006
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,119
we're talking about Metal Slug and I was like, I

1007
00:47:18,119 --> 00:47:20,159
don't think I've ever played Metal Slug, but there was

1008
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:22,559
a game I would play on a freaking flash game

1009
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:24,840
website that was pretty much a Metal Slug knockoff, but

1010
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,840
I couldn't figure out what it was and he named

1011
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,559
like five or six, and I was like, these look similar,

1012
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:32,320
but not quite it. This is exactly it. So thank

1013
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,119
you for helping me freaking put this puzzle piece together,

1014
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:38,079
because I have been desperately trying to find the name

1015
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:40,559
of this game. So thank you. I mean if I

1016
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:43,119
did one or two, but that is that is a

1017
00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:46,199
great throwback right there. Oh yeah, I love this game.

1018
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,119
This game is so good.

1019
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:51,079
Speaker 2: It was all the rage back in elementary school, holy

1020
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:53,719
smokes with my friends. It was just it's so good.

1021
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,280
The different weapons that you get, just taking down the

1022
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,639
helicopters and whatnot.

1023
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the other one, Bowman two specifically, I

1024
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:05,199
guess is what it was called, which is, yeah, you

1025
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,000
just have the two people standing there and then it

1026
00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:09,800
like they get progressively further apart, right, and then like

1027
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:11,920
of course it's a flash game, so it's super violent.

1028
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,400
Blood's I mean violent in the sense that there's blood everywhere, blood,

1029
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,360
little red spurts flying out. But yeah, that one as well,

1030
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,199
that's another core memory. Just don't locked there. I haven't

1031
00:48:21,199 --> 00:48:23,480
thought about that game in fifteen years, but I played

1032
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:25,840
that all the time. I feel like that's that's how

1033
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,760
we would do on the flash game websites. It's like

1034
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,039
you do your rounds, you know. It's like, Okay, I'm

1035
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:32,880
gonna play literally five minutes of this game five minutes

1036
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,880
of that, which is funny enough like what I often

1037
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,599
do now with like Xbox and having what's it called

1038
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:40,559
quick resume or you can quickly switch between games. I

1039
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:41,800
feel like I do a bit more of that now

1040
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,199
in game Pass. I'm like, just I'll just download a

1041
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,719
bunch of things. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna sit down tonight.

1042
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,599
I'm gonna try like four different games out and see

1043
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,159
which one I want to stick with. So I haven't

1044
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,199
really made that connection before, but it kind of feels

1045
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:55,480
like a flash gamy sort of way to experience video games.

1046
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:57,239
So yeah, I love that.

1047
00:48:57,679 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show you a another game, this one. I

1048
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,000
should dig it out and see if I could find it.

1049
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:12,840
Today's Age. It's a gun defense game, except there's a twist.

1050
00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:17,960
It's it's got a theme. Oh I'm scared, and this

1051
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,840
is a flash game. This wash I've never seen this one.

1052
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,159
This one is near to me. This is uh Mario,

1053
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,760
I'm seeing stuff. Yeah, So basically like you just gotta

1054
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,840
you pick your gun and you just keep clicking them

1055
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,480
like the bad guys to take them out before they

1056
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,079
just show your tower. So much fun.

1057
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness this Yeah, I would have absolutely devoured

1058
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,840
this as a as a child. Super Mario Castle Shooter,

1059
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,400
that's a that's a great name. It reminds me of

1060
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,440
a game I played on the Wii. It was like

1061
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,960
one of those Wei Shop like cheap, cheap o little

1062
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,760
games where it was called Defend Your Castle, where just

1063
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,639
a cat literally just your castle, and like it was

1064
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,960
using the Wii motion controls where you would aim at

1065
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,920
the little guys who are kind of approaching your castle,

1066
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,960
similar to that thing, and you just picked them up

1067
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000
and like chuck them with the with the we remount,

1068
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,280
just like throwing people all around. And then you'd like

1069
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,920
get upgrades, you get archers, you get major's. I think

1070
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,159
you would upgrade units that kind of stuff. Uh so, yeah,

1071
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,679
very much reminds me of of that kind of thing.

1072
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,679
A lot of games like that back in the day.

1073
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,960
Did you ever play Crimson Warfare, because that one I've

1074
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,599
brought to Kirkland and he doesn't. I've seen Village a

1075
00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:25,760
few times. Wait what it was a flash game?

1076
00:50:26,679 --> 00:50:30,079
Speaker 2: Sorry, Crimson Skies Crimson Sky.

1077
00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa physical physical of this flash game?

1078
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,400
Which I would buy some if that was a thing

1079
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,559
that people did, like Collector's Edition of Helly Attack too.

1080
00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:42,239
I was thinking, you're talking about but yeah, do you

1081
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,800
know Crimson Warfare? Have you Have you played that one all?

1082
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,760
Because I feel like that was you would have really

1083
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:47,440
enjoyed that game.

1084
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,599
Speaker 2: I think Crimson Warfare, I am not familiar with.

1085
00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: This, Okay, similar idea. It's like, I guess, kind of

1086
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,199
tower to fancy. It's like an RTS but like boiled

1087
00:50:57,199 --> 00:51:00,159
down to like really based mechanics. But anyway, I like

1088
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:00,880
to bring that one up.

1089
00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: There was another game that I enjoyed playing. It was

1090
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:07,840
called Adventure Quest.

1091
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:10,559
Speaker 1: Adventure Quest I had.

1092
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: These weird things called frog yards in there. It was.

1093
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: It was, Oh, I do remember adventure Quest. Yeah, wow,

1094
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:21,039
that's definitely a throwback. I fig. I feel like I

1095
00:51:21,039 --> 00:51:23,440
remember seeing more ads for it all just all over

1096
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,559
every website back in the day. But I don't actually

1097
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:28,800
know if I've played it, and maybe I would just

1098
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,880
see the ads one million times.

1099
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,559
Speaker 2: There were a lot of ads for it.

1100
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: Did you ever play Did you ever play this flash

1101
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,519
game that was like you're the kind of like an

1102
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:41,599
Indiana Jones looking guy, and it's like an isometric uh,

1103
00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:44,199
like an Egyptian temple kind of thing, and you're like

1104
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,639
walking through this temple kind of solving puzzles, dodging things,

1105
00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:50,920
picking up items. I can't remember the name of it,

1106
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,440
and I've been trying to search for it for years

1107
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,559
and haven't been able to find it.

1108
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 2: But it doesn't sound fail. It sounds familiar, but I

1109
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,199
can heck if I could think game yeah, Okay, okay, good.

1110
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: So that was in that same air too. Of course,

1111
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,880
that makes sense. We last left off of the GameCube.

1112
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,480
Where are we going next? After game?

1113
00:52:07,559 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? So after playing The Living Daylights at the GameCube,

1114
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,599
this is where things kind of turned back to PC

1115
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,800
a little bit. Okay, so my dad got newer. He's

1116
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,719
always been like newer computers. In high school, he had

1117
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:28,440
two gaming rigs, one really really good one you know

1118
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:32,280
at the time, quad core everything like that. It was

1119
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:37,760
this thing was aces, but before we got into that part,

1120
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,679
it was it was like his business computer. But it

1121
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,239
was still really really good. Like I said, He's always

1122
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,159
one that was always having like the latest high desktop.

1123
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,519
So with this it was Stronghold making its entry, and

1124
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:57,599
then the other stuff was, oh, what was the other thing?

1125
00:52:58,519 --> 00:53:01,280
Roller Coaster Tycoon two that was out of the Cereal

1126
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,320
Box remember when Kellogg's was doing that whole thing, battleships

1127
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,519
that and everything like that. So got that. I played

1128
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:11,280
a lot of Roller Coaster Tycoon too, and then what

1129
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:16,199
else was there? I know, like Halo Combat evolved everything

1130
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:21,159
that came a few years later, much much later. What

1131
00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:23,960
was the other thing that I was playing on there though?

1132
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,280
Tactics Serena Online. That was another thing too before that

1133
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:37,559
game was like quality that was so much fun. Run Escape, Yeah,

1134
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:40,599
there's definitely run Escape. Okay, I never was. I was

1135
00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:43,199
never like a World of Warcraft kind of guy. Run

1136
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,480
Escape was definitely one for me. And that's one that

1137
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,800
I've gone. You know, you never quit, you just take

1138
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:55,760
breaks exactly, and that that's one especially because my my

1139
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,880
older my younger cousin from uh the son of the

1140
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,280
uncle who was aces at punch Out. Both his sons,

1141
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,119
my cousins were in the RuneScape. My younger cousin who

1142
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:09,840
played on the Gamecuban go and visit what he played it,

1143
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,159
but he never got into it. But my other cousins

1144
00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:13,599
playing it. That was a lot of fun. So we'd,

1145
00:54:13,639 --> 00:54:17,239
you know, play and muck around on there and and whatnot.

1146
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:27,280
But what was the other one though? Oh, my goodness, gracious, Oh,

1147
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,719
I thought of it earlier and I made a mental

1148
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:34,840
note to remember it, but I forgot.

1149
00:54:35,559 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 1: You might you might think of it later. It's fine,

1150
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,280
we can it might come. Yeah, I can come back

1151
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,559
to it back. Okay. So the PC era, the PC.

1152
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 2: Era, yeah, and that one it dominated for quite some time,

1153
00:54:48,199 --> 00:54:50,400
just because I mean, there was there was really fun

1154
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,920
games to be played here. So after that, though, I remember,

1155
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,559
I ended up getting a game cube, but that was

1156
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:58,599
at the tail end of it, like Walmart was blowing

1157
00:54:58,599 --> 00:55:00,920
them out, and my mom went and got me one

1158
00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:03,480
with Animal Crossing, which that was another one my cousin

1159
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,599
and I played a lot on his GameCube was Animal Crossing.

1160
00:55:06,119 --> 00:55:09,159
And then my sister also got me a GameCube, so

1161
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,599
it doubled down. I got two, and so one of

1162
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:16,440
them was returned. The one with Animal Crossing was returned

1163
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:18,280
in favor of the one my sister got me, which

1164
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,159
came with Star Fox' Assault. So played the heck out

1165
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:24,760
of that. Eventually I went and bought Animal crossing a

1166
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,280
few months later. Yeah, but yeah, that's so that's where

1167
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,880
things kind of got really really juicy for me when

1168
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,880
I got my GameCube, because I was playing a lot

1169
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:39,039
more like the Nintendo games Mario Sunshine and Luigi's Mansion, Melee.

1170
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,400
I already knew what I wanted because I played it

1171
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,639
at my cousin's house, so I knew exactly the titles

1172
00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:45,400
that I needed to get and have in my collection

1173
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:48,880
and played like tons and tons of it nice. So

1174
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,719
that was great, And then it wasn't before long that

1175
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:57,400
my cousin upgraded to the Nintendo Wii. Uh. I've had

1176
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,599
the Wii off and on, like, I've probably bought about

1177
00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:03,400
three times and I've sold sold them every time after

1178
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,000
a few months. Like it's just it's cool, well last,

1179
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:10,840
but it's not something I need long term, really fair enough, Okay.

1180
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's probably why they sold to many of them,

1181
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,320
because people were buying them and selling them.

1182
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:19,079
Speaker 2: Buying them and saw them. Yeah. My cousin though, like

1183
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:20,559
he always kept his and that was a lot of

1184
00:56:20,599 --> 00:56:24,320
fun because he had yeah Brawl which we played a

1185
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:27,880
hecked on a brawl. No Maria parties on here, but

1186
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:33,840
we did play. Oh what was that one? We play

1187
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:34,639
with tanks?

1188
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of tanks. I love tank time.

1189
00:56:37,679 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And then on top of that, he had

1190
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,880
another game called Endless Ocean, which they released a third

1191
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,840
one for the Switch, which I do want to try

1192
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,400
Endless Ocean one and two, but particularly the first one.

1193
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,519
It was just what a wonderful experience that was. And

1194
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:53,559
me and him played that hours and hours and hours

1195
00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:59,400
on end. It was a great time. Yeah. What else

1196
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:02,199
was there? Though? I can't think of too many other

1197
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,039
things that come to mind with the Wii?

1198
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,559
Speaker 1: But were you did you? Were you a fan? Not

1199
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:09,599
a fan? Or neutral on motion controls?

1200
00:57:09,679 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 2: Back then, I didn't like it, and I thought that

1201
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,599
that's where we were going to be going, and I

1202
00:57:13,679 --> 00:57:16,440
just was not a fan of it really, right, Okay,

1203
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,480
It wasn't before long where my next console upgrade was

1204
00:57:21,519 --> 00:57:26,920
an Xbox three sixty and I remember my my mom

1205
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:31,280
she knew I wanted it and so put money aside,

1206
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,199
and I remember getting it from best Buy and that

1207
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,400
was the one that came with Assassin's Creed because best

1208
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,159
Buy had a bundle going on where they include Assassin's

1209
00:57:38,199 --> 00:57:44,320
Creed and on top of that, they also included Viva Panyada,

1210
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,400
but it was a fifty to fifty bundle that also

1211
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:50,719
had Legoaniana Jones in the same pack as well. Okay, yeah,

1212
00:57:51,199 --> 00:57:54,679
so I got those with my Xbox three sixty and yeah,

1213
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,440
just I never played Viva Panada Panada or Legoia Jones.

1214
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,360
I was just playing Assassin's Creed. Eventually just got other

1215
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,079
games call Duty and everything, and that's kind of where

1216
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:07,199
things branched out over there. I guess I should have

1217
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,239
said though and emphasized right before I got the Xbox,

1218
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,840
that's when I started playing Palo Combat evolved religiously on

1219
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,480
the game and computer six Vegas religiously.

1220
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: As well, sho Era a little bit.

1221
00:58:22,519 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah, so that's when these kind

1222
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,559
of really popped off. And uh, it's our strategy games go.

1223
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:35,639
Uh Seven Kingdoms Conquest, which I have actually I had

1224
00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:41,440
it around here somewhere, Seven Kingdoms Conquest. But bah, it's

1225
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,480
a good RTS game.

1226
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard of this series, but I've never played

1227
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:44,800
it myself.

1228
00:58:45,039 --> 00:58:47,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a lot of fun. It's a good time.

1229
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: Is it STRONGHOLDI or like more it looks like more fantasy.

1230
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: It's more fantasy, very different from Stronghold, very very different.

1231
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,559
The other thing that I was playing to was oh,

1232
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:05,760
what was it called Active War direct Action? Really really

1233
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,280
like that one, and I wanted to play High Treason

1234
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,360
because that one had like naval gameplay in there too,

1235
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,400
or mechanics, which seem pretty cool. But there was a

1236
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,840
new one that Age of Singularity I think it's called,

1237
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,519
and that one I bought a year or two ago.

1238
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,079
I don't think I have it installed right now, but

1239
00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:34,719
it's on my Steam account, and yeah, that's just I like. Again.

1240
00:59:35,159 --> 00:59:37,960
Age of Active War direct Action was great because again

1241
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,599
I'm doing the role play thing. You have your map

1242
00:59:40,719 --> 00:59:43,239
and you can pick between a few different factions. I

1243
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,679
think I just like playing as the US Army and

1244
00:59:46,719 --> 00:59:49,840
so basically in these scenarios I would create, you set

1245
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,239
up oil refineries, and eventually when the oil refinery drains

1246
00:59:54,239 --> 00:59:56,079
all the oil out, there's no more money that can

1247
00:59:56,119 --> 00:59:58,119
be made, so you can run out of money and

1248
00:59:58,119 --> 01:00:00,480
you gotta defere your enemy before them. But it's cool

1249
01:00:00,519 --> 01:00:02,880
because all the units are singular, like single units, not

1250
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,840
squad based or anything like that, so you can get

1251
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,639
you can do like a fleet like a hundred helicopters.

1252
01:00:08,679 --> 01:00:10,320
I don't know if there was a unit cap, because

1253
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,159
I didn't ever find it. I would just be buying.

1254
01:00:12,199 --> 01:00:14,960
But you can take prisoners of war, put them in prison,

1255
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,760
and then you can generate income from that, and so

1256
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,440
I would do that so that even though the oil

1257
01:00:19,519 --> 01:00:22,039
drives up, I can still keep on building units and fighting,

1258
01:00:22,679 --> 01:00:24,760
and so you I would. I'd love to role play

1259
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,360
where you'd get like, oh, what are those what are

1260
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,840
those things called? With the like a plane, but with

1261
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:37,119
the props of helicopter. Why am I drawing a blank? Uh,

1262
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,639
it's a transport helicopter.

1263
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:40,639
Speaker 1: Big helicopter.

1264
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, big helicopter. I would load my ground units in there,

1265
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,440
and I would you know, I know they're gonna die,

1266
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,559
and I know it's not strategically like the best thing

1267
01:00:47,639 --> 01:00:49,960
to do, but just for the role play satisfaction, moving

1268
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,559
my units behind enemy lines, drop them down, and just

1269
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:54,480
have my units like run out and just like you

1270
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,280
could put them on rooftops of buildings when troops are

1271
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,119
going down below and they'd be firing like you could.

1272
01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:01,480
Just there was so much depths to that game. It

1273
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:03,920
was a lot of fun, and especially because they had

1274
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,599
air units different helicopters, apache helicopters and stuff that could

1275
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:09,960
go into battle. There was a lot of role play

1276
01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:13,000
ability in that game, which made it very, very enjoyable

1277
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:13,239
for me.

1278
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: I love it. I've ever heard of that game, but

1279
01:01:16,199 --> 01:01:17,960
I just know there's some guy on Steam who has

1280
01:01:18,039 --> 01:01:19,719
like five thousand hours in this game and he still

1281
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,960
plays it religiously to this very day.

1282
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yes, absolutely, and a game that got

1283
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,360
close well I'm five thousand hours. I don't know, maybe

1284
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,400
Star Wars Empire War. That's when that entered and oh

1285
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,719
my gosh, that's also a time when Star Wars Battlefront

1286
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,760
entered my life too and whatnot. But Empire War was

1287
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,639
like the Krem to the Crim still is the Krem

1288
01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:46,239
to the Krim. And I wish that that got a

1289
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,360
definitive edition. Oh my gosh, I would just I would

1290
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,199
immediately keel over if they announced a definitive edition for

1291
01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:56,480
that game. But I can't even keep track of how

1292
01:01:56,599 --> 01:02:00,599
much time I put into that because before Steve, it

1293
01:02:00,679 --> 01:02:03,320
was my hard copy, which I still have, and just

1294
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,880
playing hours and hours and hours of that, tons of online,

1295
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,480
tons of online and then again tons of just role

1296
01:02:10,519 --> 01:02:13,440
playing and setting up just different scenarios and space battles

1297
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,079
and everything like that.

1298
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: Like that you're hitting different themes of like medieval or

1299
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,800
like Star Wars fantasy or like the military, like kind

1300
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,079
of realistic military stuff, but like kind of I don't know,

1301
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:27,280
definitely obviously a through line between all that. But I

1302
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,440
like that you kind of had various genres that you

1303
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:31,760
were interested in. I think that's cool.

1304
01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:35,079
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot and it's definitely refined, and it's

1305
01:02:35,159 --> 01:02:38,760
it's something that's kind of refined into just going into

1306
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,000
Star Wars. That's just where it kind of it ultimately

1307
01:02:42,039 --> 01:02:42,840
would end up.

1308
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: And so in this era though, like pretty clearly split

1309
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:47,880
like playing a lot of PC, playing a lot of

1310
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,559
three sixty and kind of just flip slopping back and forth.

1311
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,679
Speaker 2: The PC kind of slowed down a little bit once

1312
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,519
I got the Xbox. But this is time too when

1313
01:02:56,519 --> 01:02:58,199
I would be going over to my dad's house now,

1314
01:02:58,239 --> 01:02:59,719
and so he had the PCs in back of my

1315
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:05,159
mom house. That's where the Xbox wascha. So yeah, yeah,

1316
01:03:05,199 --> 01:03:07,159
when i'd be at my dad's it'd be just a

1317
01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:10,840
lot of Rainbow six. I remember. So weekends after school,

1318
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,840
I'd skip school early on Fridays, you know, like twelve

1319
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,039
o'clock would come like, all right, I'm walking to my dad's,

1320
01:03:16,199 --> 01:03:18,000
like a forty minute walk get to my dad's. My

1321
01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:20,559
dad's that you know, he's doing his work, his business,

1322
01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:24,280
self employed, landscaping whatever. I got my own key going there,

1323
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,199
and I'm on the computer and I'm gaming and I

1324
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,639
having a good time. And then that night my aunt saying,

1325
01:03:29,679 --> 01:03:33,480
Aunt that, you know, my cousin lived at my grandparents house.

1326
01:03:34,159 --> 01:03:36,880
My aunt would be going off to do whatever, so

1327
01:03:37,159 --> 01:03:40,679
she'd bring my cousin over, drop my cousin off. And

1328
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,440
my dad has multiple gaming computers. So now we're landing up.

1329
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,239
We're doing the land party, my dad, me, my cousin.

1330
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,159
We're on Halo, and this is where we're putting the

1331
01:03:49,159 --> 01:03:51,480
disc in the one computer, load it up, take out

1332
01:03:51,519 --> 01:03:53,920
the disc, next computer, next computer, and then we're all

1333
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,280
online and we're all playing. We're just having a hell

1334
01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:00,679
of a good time. So between Halo to Active Ward

1335
01:04:00,719 --> 01:04:06,400
Direct Action was another one, Rainbow six and especially seven

1336
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,920
Kingdom's Conquest. These are all games that we were all

1337
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,920
lanning up and playing, and so my cousin would be

1338
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,079
there sometimes he spend the night and we'd just be

1339
01:04:14,159 --> 01:04:16,400
playing well into the night, and it would just be

1340
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,679
so much freaking fun. Oh my gosh, some of the

1341
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:21,320
happiest game moments of my life.

1342
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,639
Speaker 1: I love that. That's a beautiful pocket of time because

1343
01:04:24,639 --> 01:04:27,199
that's very reminiscent of me and my cousin doing the

1344
01:04:27,199 --> 01:04:29,360
same thing, especially as you mentioned, like your cousin would

1345
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,639
like maybe stay over for like two weeks in the summer,

1346
01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:33,840
Like the same thing with my cousin from Vancouver would

1347
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,599
come down and yeah, we would just we'd watch water

1348
01:04:37,679 --> 01:04:40,000
Boy endlessly and then we would just game endlessly. And

1349
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,480
I don't know how we did it all, but we

1350
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:44,760
somehow did. Speaking of doing it all, let's do a

1351
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,840
quick ad break and we'll be right back to get

1352
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:54,519
some more info on Taylor's gaming history. Okay, we are back,

1353
01:04:54,719 --> 01:04:58,480
So transition more to the three sixty era. Obviously Assassin's Creed,

1354
01:04:58,559 --> 01:05:00,800
Like you start with the first one, right, and then

1355
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,519
I'm guessing you're kind of getting every entry that comes

1356
01:05:03,519 --> 01:05:04,559
out at this point.

1357
01:05:05,199 --> 01:05:08,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, every entry one. I Assassin's Creed two was kind

1358
01:05:08,239 --> 01:05:10,000
of like, I think it was a year later after

1359
01:05:10,039 --> 01:05:12,800
I got my Xbox three sixty, and so that was

1360
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,840
all the hype getting that and again getting No, I

1361
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,559
don't think I was getting every call of Maybe I

1362
01:05:19,639 --> 01:05:21,559
was getting every Call of duty because I got World

1363
01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:24,599
of War and then One for two. I didn't get

1364
01:05:24,639 --> 01:05:27,719
Monoor for three, but that came out way later. That

1365
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,719
was tied with Battlefield three, which I got Battlefield three instead,

1366
01:05:31,199 --> 01:05:34,239
right right, So I but I was still like Black

1367
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,880
Ops Black Ops two and just kind of riding that

1368
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,480
that train. So other Xbox three sixty games though that

1369
01:05:40,519 --> 01:05:45,119
I got. Yeah, the three sixty eight was just great

1370
01:05:45,159 --> 01:05:47,480
because there were so many different like movie tie in

1371
01:05:47,559 --> 01:05:52,199
games like Iron Man two, an absolute stellar freaking movie

1372
01:05:52,199 --> 01:05:56,199
adaptation game, Like I really really enjoy that Transformers Dark

1373
01:05:56,239 --> 01:05:57,320
Side of the Moon.

1374
01:05:57,239 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, those Transformers games were killing it in that era.

1375
01:06:00,159 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: Like oh yeah, super good, right, so good. So between

1376
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,599
those and a few other like zany titles, yeah I was.

1377
01:06:06,679 --> 01:06:09,159
I was definitely having a blast in the three sixty era.

1378
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,760
I've sunk so many hours into that console and it

1379
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,559
still got it upstairs. It still runs great.

1380
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,679
Speaker 1: So Gears as well.

1381
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 2: Right at that time, Gears was after the fact, I

1382
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:23,760
was more on the Halo train. When Gears three came out,

1383
01:06:24,039 --> 01:06:27,719
I bought it opening day, played the Daylights, I have it,

1384
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,000
really liked it, and I didn't even play Gears one

1385
01:06:31,079 --> 01:06:33,079
or two yet at this point, but after playing Gears

1386
01:06:33,079 --> 01:06:34,719
three and loving it, it's like, okay, so I went

1387
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:39,119
back and I think I've beaten Gears one and two twice.

1388
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,199
Uh Gear, No, all of them. Gears one to three

1389
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:46,199
I've beaten. I've beaten twice. And then Judgment I've beaten once.

1390
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,880
That was a smaller spin off with with Baird and

1391
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:55,119
then yeah, Gears four beaten that. Gears five not completed

1392
01:06:55,159 --> 01:06:59,920
it yet, but yeah, the like the the original Gears games, Yeah,

1393
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,639
it was definitely later. Halo was definitely just taking a

1394
01:07:02,639 --> 01:07:04,679
lot of my time and I never got into the

1395
01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:07,840
multiplayer a lot. For me, it was the storyline. The

1396
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,039
storyline is what just I fell in love with so

1397
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:13,800
so much that character, just like Assassin's Creed. Just fell

1398
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,679
in love with that, that storyline.

1399
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,239
Speaker 1: Considering you loved, you know, just coming up with scenarios

1400
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,360
and kind of the role play stuff. Did you ever

1401
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,480
mess around on like Forge mode a lot. Did you

1402
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,760
make maps or just I don't know, with your cousin

1403
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,440
just I don't know, screwing around role playing Rydom scenarios.

1404
01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: My cousin. This is a point where where he was

1405
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:35,719
always ahead and getting like the newest console. I feel

1406
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,280
like this is where it transitioned, because now I was

1407
01:07:39,519 --> 01:07:42,159
the one getting the newer consoles in the newer games,

1408
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,280
and he wasn't keeping up even now, like, hey, let's

1409
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,440
let's play this game. Let's boot up, and he's like,

1410
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,599
oh no, I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna be

1411
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:54,119
playing like Assassin's Creed Unity or something like. He's playing

1412
01:07:54,159 --> 01:07:56,760
like the older ones. Like man, like you should be

1413
01:07:57,119 --> 01:07:59,559
hopping on here, So let's play Warzone together, Like we

1414
01:07:59,639 --> 01:08:02,199
got the ability now to play together, so let's play

1415
01:08:02,239 --> 01:08:03,880
like these newer games. But he's like, ah, no, I'm

1416
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,079
completing the other the other game first, Like you know,

1417
01:08:06,199 --> 01:08:11,280
that's fair. He's a completionist. So yeah, at this point

1418
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:16,960
with Forge, I would have been not dabbling in it

1419
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,199
too too much. I've only really in depthely done one

1420
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:24,720
Forge map, and that was where I created hangar bays

1421
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,439
in the air above Forge Island. I put stuff down

1422
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,159
below some ford like if you're on the ground, you

1423
01:08:29,159 --> 01:08:30,680
could have a battle, and it's like a base and

1424
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,359
a base and whatnot. But then hovering I put these

1425
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:36,279
repulsor lips underneath and made it like a cargo ship

1426
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,800
floating there stationary. And so I had the hangar bays,

1427
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,439
like the one way shields that you can go through,

1428
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,439
and there was like a secret entrance you can get

1429
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,640
into the ship with. But then I put Banshee's in

1430
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,479
there and stuff. So it was like a hangar bay

1431
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,479
with aircraft and you could fly out of just it

1432
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,880
was a lot of fun. But yeah, it wasn't something

1433
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,239
I was religiously kind of exploring or getting into too much.

1434
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:03,119
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, cool, okay. So that we're still in the

1435
01:09:03,119 --> 01:09:06,520
three sixty era, where are we going next?

1436
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: After three sixty it would be probably Xbox well no, no, no,

1437
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,800
maybe by Nintendo three DS. Actually yeah, three DS. That

1438
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,920
was a very newer purchase. Picked that up from Future Shop,

1439
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:31,039
and I remember getting Smash Bros On On there. What

1440
01:09:31,239 --> 01:09:34,239
else did they have. I didn't get a Mario Maker,

1441
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:36,239
but I got Mario Bros. I got into some of

1442
01:09:36,239 --> 01:09:39,560
the newer Pokemon games. I guess I completely forgot to

1443
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,720
mention the Nintendo DS that I also got before that.

1444
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:48,680
That would have been that would have been early three sixty.

1445
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:55,119
Speaker 1: No, I mean it came out time it came out

1446
01:09:55,319 --> 01:09:57,399
like before the WE came out, I think, right.

1447
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:02,319
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I don't remember the dates, but I did.

1448
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,039
I did jump in on that, and it was not

1449
01:10:04,199 --> 01:10:06,760
right when the then DS had come out. It was

1450
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,560
definitely like half point to.

1451
01:10:09,279 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe you were deep into the WEI at

1452
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:16,000
that point. Yeah, maybe even in your PC. Probably not

1453
01:10:16,039 --> 01:10:17,560
in your PC era. I feel like those kind of

1454
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,359
conflict with each other, maybe.

1455
01:10:19,399 --> 01:10:22,199
Speaker 2: I think so. I just know that I went onto

1456
01:10:22,279 --> 01:10:26,119
the d S and I got fire emblem, a bunch

1457
01:10:26,199 --> 01:10:28,600
of Pokemon titles Heart Gold, Soil Silver that was the

1458
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:32,159
main or heart just sorry, just heart gold. I got? Ah,

1459
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,000
what else did I get?

1460
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:40,279
Speaker 1: Did you have any like weird gimmicky touchscreen thing is

1461
01:10:40,359 --> 01:10:42,439
like brain big brain brain age.

1462
01:10:43,159 --> 01:10:46,239
Speaker 2: I didn't jump on any of that. I My DS

1463
01:10:46,319 --> 01:10:51,039
was like exclusively a Pokemon, Pokemon machine and Mario and

1464
01:10:51,079 --> 01:10:54,600
then the one fire emblem. Yeah that's that's pretty much it, Okay, okay,

1465
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,039
three three DS wise, it was pretty much the same

1466
01:10:57,119 --> 01:11:01,359
thing Pokemon and uh and yeah nothing nothing third party

1467
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,000
or nothing extra on top of that.

1468
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you on like three DS, you weren't picking

1469
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,399
up any weird like shop like small little five dollars

1470
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:09,479
games or anything like that.

1471
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,119
Speaker 2: No. I think the only thing I bought on the

1472
01:11:12,119 --> 01:11:14,760
E shop on my DS maybe it was my three

1473
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:20,680
DS was the Mario Lost Levels, which I really like that.

1474
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,760
That was like the Super Mario Bros. Two that was

1475
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:28,760
released in Japan. Yea, it was just the levels are brutal, brutal,

1476
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,439
but I love that. I love that challenge, especially in

1477
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,840
that like old, like familiar art style of the original

1478
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,000
Mario game. But just all these new levels, it just

1479
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,359
felt like expansion deals. Yeah, just so exhilarating.

1480
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,399
Speaker 1: Lost the time and then they brought it back. Yeah,

1481
01:11:42,399 --> 01:11:44,640
that's cool, okay Xbox one.

1482
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 2: Then yeah, Xbox one. I remember this is when I

1483
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,279
started my job at Target, and so I had a

1484
01:11:51,319 --> 01:11:56,439
lot of disposable income and got that console when it launched.

1485
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,319
I got the Day one Xbox One.

1486
01:12:00,159 --> 01:12:02,279
Speaker 1: I like that now, sorry, just to get it personally.

1487
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,319
Now now I entered the picture. Now I know who

1488
01:12:05,359 --> 01:12:07,039
you are, and now I can kind of trace a

1489
01:12:07,039 --> 01:12:08,760
little bit in real time, like, oh yeah, I can

1490
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,560
remember these areas now. But that's right, absolutely hit the

1491
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,279
meeting point of geekers.

1492
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:19,279
Speaker 2: So with this console, I yeah, I got it day

1493
01:12:19,279 --> 01:12:23,760
one at launch and so I got a I think

1494
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:28,640
I still have it somewhere. It's a steel case. And

1495
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,039
then it was your sixty days of Xbox, your year

1496
01:12:31,319 --> 01:12:34,359
Xbox membership on like a steal card, and it had

1497
01:12:34,399 --> 01:12:36,439
the code on the back. Okay, and this is your

1498
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:40,560
day one Xbox Live code for Xbox Live for the year.

1499
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,600
And then I got an achievement as well for like

1500
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,920
day one that I was like zero gamer score, but

1501
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,359
it's on It's on somewhere on my account, I guess.

1502
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,760
And what else. There's a few other things that was

1503
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:55,680
really really cool for it. My Xbox One controller had

1504
01:12:56,039 --> 01:12:59,720
day one engraved on it, which is pretty cool that

1505
01:13:00,119 --> 01:13:02,319
I think I got. I think I got rid of

1506
01:13:02,399 --> 01:13:04,239
it though with the Xbox One because I didn't have

1507
01:13:04,319 --> 01:13:09,000
much of a need for it. Yeah, yeah, my Xbox One.

1508
01:13:09,079 --> 01:13:13,960
I ended up trading it in towards an Xbox the slim,

1509
01:13:14,279 --> 01:13:18,520
the smaller white one, and I remember having issues with

1510
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,479
that because I got the new Resident Evil and I

1511
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,520
got a capture card and so I was going to

1512
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:29,239
record gameplay. Ruben came over and the HDMI fuzzed out

1513
01:13:29,319 --> 01:13:31,800
on the back of the Xbox, which was just brutal.

1514
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,880
So luckily I had it under warranty. I filled up

1515
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,840
the information on that Microsoft's website, so I sent the

1516
01:13:39,039 --> 01:13:44,279
Xbox via ups back to the Microsoft. They fixed it,

1517
01:13:44,359 --> 01:13:46,159
and then like three weeks later, they sent it back

1518
01:13:46,159 --> 01:13:48,000
to me, gave me the console and it worked like

1519
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,760
a charm. It was wonderful to have the Xbox back.

1520
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: And so would you do in those three weeks? Were

1521
01:13:54,039 --> 01:13:55,800
you playing a three DS again or are you just like.

1522
01:13:56,279 --> 01:13:58,159
Speaker 2: I think, I was just on the computer, you know,

1523
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,560
doing and doing whatever I did. I eventually get a

1524
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,399
wei U during this period of time as well, and

1525
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,279
again that this would have been the tail end of

1526
01:14:06,319 --> 01:14:12,000
it too, But Mario Maker Smash like it was just

1527
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,439
there's a lot of hype surrounding these games. And Poke

1528
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,079
and Tournament too, that was another big one as well.

1529
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: Sorry the Resident Evil? Was that was that seven? Or

1530
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,199
was that it have been six at the time?

1531
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:23,079
Speaker 2: That was seven?

1532
01:14:24,119 --> 01:14:28,039
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I guess that's games older than I My

1533
01:14:28,119 --> 01:14:29,880
memory thinks it is, but I guess it. Yeah, I

1534
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,359
was an Xbox one era thing, so.

1535
01:14:32,319 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: I feel like it was still relatively new. But eb

1536
01:14:35,159 --> 01:14:37,600
games did like a I feel like it was like

1537
01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:41,199
nineteen bucks or nine bucks, and it was still like

1538
01:14:41,319 --> 01:14:43,800
usually seventy dollars, but I got it for like Black

1539
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,159
Friday deal, so it was a really really good deal.

1540
01:14:46,199 --> 01:14:49,760
I was super stoked off on that bargain and playing

1541
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,800
it with Ruben was a lot of fun.

1542
01:14:52,079 --> 01:14:54,359
Speaker 1: And I feel like because you also would like at

1543
01:14:54,359 --> 01:14:57,760
some point in this eras like Outlast and Dying Light, right,

1544
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,520
so maybe a bit of like a horror theme. You're

1545
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,119
more into, like interested in the horror stuff for a

1546
01:15:02,119 --> 01:15:02,520
little bit.

1547
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, this it's tricky to know exactly where this kind

1548
01:15:06,399 --> 01:15:09,359
of would would sprout. And I've always had an interest

1549
01:15:09,399 --> 01:15:13,039
with with horror games because probably my first one that

1550
01:15:13,079 --> 01:15:14,640
I ever got involved with. And I forgot to mention

1551
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,640
this during the PC era earlier on it was my

1552
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:23,920
dad got a game called Fear. Yeah, first encounter. Uh oh,

1553
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:28,319
first encounter? What does it stand for? Something? Response? I

1554
01:15:28,319 --> 01:15:29,479
can't remember what the A was.

1555
01:15:30,119 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fear hmm, yeah, I don't remember.

1556
01:15:37,399 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 2: There was a there's a girl in there called Alma

1557
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,920
and she was basically salt right, that's the one. That's

1558
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:44,279
the one.

1559
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is a three sixty play for me.

1560
01:15:47,079 --> 01:15:49,239
I feel like it was like a blockbuster three sixty.

1561
01:15:49,399 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it definitely was. Yeah, for three sixty two,

1562
01:15:53,159 --> 01:15:55,319
my dad got Fear one. In Fear two, he got

1563
01:15:55,359 --> 01:15:57,079
Fear one, and I remember he would just go to

1564
01:15:57,159 --> 01:15:58,880
be Games and come back with all like the big

1565
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,800
PC boxes with the disks inside of all these new

1566
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,800
PC games you get excited about and and play them.

1567
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,920
And so Fear the girl Alma that was in there,

1568
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,399
just terrifying this little girl that the this Weapons division

1569
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,319
was experimenting on because she had psychic powers instead of

1570
01:16:14,319 --> 01:16:16,399
trying to get her to like control things and whatnot.

1571
01:16:16,399 --> 01:16:18,840
A user as a weapon and then you're just you're

1572
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,439
kind of like a psychic soldier. So you're seeing this

1573
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,600
like demon girl appear every once in a while. Freaky game,

1574
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,640
but that was that one that put me through.

1575
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,079
Speaker 1: I really want to revisit that, I because I feel

1576
01:16:29,079 --> 01:16:31,880
like that's not a series other than you, like, people

1577
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,319
don't talk about that. It's like forgotten to time a bit,

1578
01:16:34,399 --> 01:16:36,359
like who even developed Fear.

1579
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 2: And there's three games. There's Fear one, two, and three,

1580
01:16:39,039 --> 01:16:41,279
and then there's Uh.

1581
01:16:41,119 --> 01:16:44,319
Speaker 1: That we're all kind of in the same era, right.

1582
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 2: Fear three came out much later.

1583
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: I want to say, oh, yeah, this was a freaking

1584
01:16:51,119 --> 01:16:55,000
Monolith game. Wasn't it like the middle Shadow of War people?

1585
01:16:56,159 --> 01:16:56,520
Speaker 2: Really?

1586
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they have a really they have a really

1587
01:17:00,039 --> 01:17:06,079
interesting they made a tron game all sorts of like

1588
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:08,960
just a very interesting history when you look back at it.

1589
01:17:09,039 --> 01:17:10,720
But yeah, Fear is in there in there as well,

1590
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,319
or at least Fear one in two.

1591
01:17:13,119 --> 01:17:15,319
Speaker 2: Three, I think like could be a different studio.

1592
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: They also did Condemned, which is like a big horror.

1593
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,039
Speaker 2: S oh I played the Condemned. Yeah, I remember going

1594
01:17:20,079 --> 01:17:22,039
to my friend's house and he had the Condemned and

1595
01:17:22,079 --> 01:17:28,399
that was wild. Yeah, but yeah, horror, So horror games

1596
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,840
have always been kind of an interest in. Yeah, Dying

1597
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:36,800
Light Outlast for sure. Those were some peak ones on

1598
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,119
on three six or sorry on on Xbox one?

1599
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: Did you ever sorry? Was had you ever encountered a

1600
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,560
Resident Evil before that point, like growing up in your life?

1601
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,359
Or was seven actually like your first one you played?

1602
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 2: That was the first one. Yeah, I never got into

1603
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,880
it really at all. I played I think it was

1604
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,079
five or six briefly, like a few minutes with Rubin.

1605
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: And going back, sorry three sixty one more time because

1606
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,680
I'm thinking of like, like Resident Evil five was a

1607
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,640
big co op game. Army of two like, were you

1608
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,520
and your cousin playing that stuff or at that point

1609
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,479
was your cousin already kind of a little bit less

1610
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:12,640
frequently playing the game?

1611
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:16,039
Speaker 2: He didn't have the three sixty when I got the

1612
01:18:16,039 --> 01:18:20,760
three sixty. He got the three sixty Elite. Uh okay,

1613
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:25,319
kind of the tail end of things. Army of two

1614
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,119
played that at my friends. NHL was a big one

1615
01:18:28,119 --> 01:18:31,760
on the three sixties pension. So NHL eleven, I remember

1616
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,760
we my friends were playing the daylights out of that game.

1617
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,600
Oh my gosh, we were just going hard. That was great.

1618
01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:41,279
And I remember when the next one came out after that,

1619
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,920
NHL thirteen. Sorry, we would skip a year, so even

1620
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,000
though twelve was the next one, we would skip that

1621
01:18:48,119 --> 01:18:50,039
and just get thirteen because we knew every year that

1622
01:18:50,079 --> 01:18:54,279
they were coming out. Yea, So NHL has a huge part,

1623
01:18:54,359 --> 01:18:57,239
a huge soft spot in my gaming past for sure.

1624
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,560
Speaker 1: Oh I guess. So we didn't bring the Strikers back

1625
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,159
in the day GameCube, Yep, yep, Strikers, that's what okay.

1626
01:19:03,359 --> 01:19:05,199
I feel like we were forgetting a multiplayer one and

1627
01:19:05,239 --> 01:19:07,039
that that was okay.

1628
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:11,239
Speaker 2: That's one that my my cousin didn't get. So for Christmas,

1629
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,640
my Grandma and grandpa put the gifts out and he

1630
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,159
got a couple random gifts and then I randomly got

1631
01:19:18,199 --> 01:19:21,399
this Mario Strikers game and he didn't get it. He

1632
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,840
was definitely jealous. I was like, this so crazy.

1633
01:19:24,079 --> 01:19:27,039
Speaker 1: Wait was that when you didn't have a game cube yet?

1634
01:19:27,039 --> 01:19:30,319
But he did later on when you had your GameCube? Now, okay,

1635
01:19:30,359 --> 01:19:31,399
both had game cubes.

1636
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And for whatever reason, my grandparents got me this

1637
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,199
Mario game that he didn't have, and he was super

1638
01:19:36,319 --> 01:19:38,760
jealous that. I, dude, a video game for Christmas was

1639
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:39,680
like always a treat.

1640
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,359
Speaker 1: I feel like that was kind of rare. Usually, I

1641
01:19:41,359 --> 01:19:43,319
feel like my parents would go for like something that

1642
01:19:43,359 --> 01:19:45,680
was physically bigger in a box or something, but that

1643
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,439
was always like, Oh you could tell too. You're like, oh,

1644
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,439
I'm either getting a DVD or a game right now,

1645
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,039
and I hope the game, Oh yeah, for sure.

1646
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,119
Speaker 2: Oh you remind me to another PC game back in

1647
01:19:56,159 --> 01:19:58,800
the day. But this was when Elementary School was another

1648
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,479
binycle game. It was the movie tie in game by

1649
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,680
Uncle Mask of Light, and this this game superseded the

1650
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,560
movie in so many ways. It did so many other things,

1651
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,640
like the final battle against Makuda was wild, but going

1652
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:17,239
to different chorros of Mattanui and just being able to

1653
01:20:17,279 --> 01:20:19,720
like face the bull rock and face the rock She

1654
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,840
The one of the most difficultest of all time boss

1655
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,319
battles was playing as Onua and Nuva and then facing

1656
01:20:27,399 --> 01:20:31,279
the the rock she boss battle and uh In there

1657
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:35,119
was just brutal. But again, lava surfing is Tahoo Nuva

1658
01:20:35,279 --> 01:20:37,199
taking out a rak sheet who's got the mask of

1659
01:20:37,279 --> 01:20:40,319
light like they're oh so crazy. I remember my dad

1660
01:20:40,319 --> 01:20:43,159
could never complete it. It drove him nuts trying to

1661
01:20:43,159 --> 01:20:46,520
do the lava surfing and even too like flying as

1662
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:51,920
like lewa in uh you have you have to you

1663
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:55,600
have there's like what was it called. It was, oh,

1664
01:20:56,279 --> 01:20:57,800
a guck go bird. So you have a guck go

1665
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,600
bird in front of Leewa. I know the words flying,

1666
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,359
So as the guckle bird flies, as Leewan knew, you

1667
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,800
have to like fly, but his fly wasn't permanent. It

1668
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,239
would just last about four seconds and then he would fall.

1669
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,600
But behind the guckle bird it created draft, so you

1670
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,800
have to follow behind the gugle bird sharp turns goal

1671
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:22,399
around his Yeah, fucking nightmare. But again these are the

1672
01:21:22,399 --> 01:21:25,279
these are the games like they were challenges back then,

1673
01:21:25,359 --> 01:21:29,319
and I just it's a whole, a whole different tier

1674
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,800
like games nowadays. There are challenges and there's certain things

1675
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,760
where I can't even keep up with it. Mario Karr

1676
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,680
World World, like the Wall Riding. My brain isn't there yet,

1677
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,439
but I want to see those kids try and fucking

1678
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,680
follow the guckle Bird and Bionical. That ship's fucking difficult, man.

1679
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 1: But especially because you're you probably have like an old

1680
01:21:48,039 --> 01:21:51,479
controller and it's like, yeah, kind of gonky and those

1681
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,319
games especially Okay, well I was gonna say, especially when

1682
01:21:54,319 --> 01:21:56,479
you're flying around stuff, that's when a game would be

1683
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,479
lagging out or like the frame rate would drop, which

1684
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,239
you know, if you're done had to really tie in PC.

1685
01:22:00,359 --> 01:22:02,399
Maybe that wasn't a concern, but I feel like those

1686
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,359
kind of things, like when you're having to move quickly

1687
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,920
and the game starts like you know, it's like, well,

1688
01:22:07,039 --> 01:22:09,359
I now, but that's just kind of kind of what

1689
01:22:09,399 --> 01:22:15,399
happens there. Yeah, yeah, sorry, quick dtour is like I'm

1690
01:22:15,399 --> 01:22:17,479
thinking maybe three sixty era, like were you you ever

1691
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,279
a mobile phone game?

1692
01:22:19,279 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 2: Guy?

1693
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 1: That were you playing? Ripping up the app store, playing

1694
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,880
all sorts of stuff on there. Yeah, it's kind of

1695
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,399
like the flash games of the of the that era ring.

1696
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:33,239
Speaker 2: That's exactly it. So I got my iPod Touch two

1697
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:39,199
and seven eleven. That's what I meant to say. Yeah,

1698
01:22:39,279 --> 01:22:46,000
angry birds. What was the other one? Honestly, there's some

1699
01:22:46,159 --> 01:22:50,640
that I've kept on my phone this whole time. Fruit Ninja.

1700
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,920
I still got fruit and Ninja on yeah on my phone.

1701
01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:00,359
What else do I have? Fruit inj is really changed? Changed?

1702
01:23:01,359 --> 01:23:06,039
Doodle Jump, Doodle Jump yep, class jump on there too?

1703
01:23:07,039 --> 01:23:12,600
That Jeff Packed joy Ride Scooter rat on a scooter?

1704
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:13,600
Do you know that one?

1705
01:23:14,039 --> 01:23:17,039
Speaker 1: Ride on a scooter or a rat rat rat on

1706
01:23:17,079 --> 01:23:19,680
a scooter? Do I know?

1707
01:23:20,079 --> 01:23:20,159
Speaker 2: No?

1708
01:23:20,239 --> 01:23:25,159
Speaker 1: I never played that one. I played that looks classic.

1709
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,640
What is it called? It was called bike race.

1710
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 2: I think I'm not familiar with bike.

1711
01:23:33,279 --> 01:23:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I don't look at if you google bike race.

1712
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,800
I I'm curious if you, like you would recognize that logo.

1713
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,119
It's very much the same thing. There's a bike but

1714
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,159
this one was one where you would have your friends

1715
01:23:44,159 --> 01:23:48,119
list on there and you would challenge I know it now, Yeah,

1716
01:23:48,279 --> 01:23:50,439
you would challenge a friend and so you know, it

1717
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,560
would give you a random level and then you would

1718
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,239
compete it compete in the level, and then it wasn't

1719
01:23:55,279 --> 01:23:58,399
like live multiplayer. But then you you know, your time

1720
01:23:58,399 --> 01:24:01,359
would get sent older your friend they would raise the level,

1721
01:24:01,359 --> 01:24:03,199
and then whoever you know had the better time wins

1722
01:24:03,199 --> 01:24:05,479
that round. I forget exactly how the scoring all worked out,

1723
01:24:06,319 --> 01:24:08,000
but I just remember like the metagame of that, and

1724
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:09,479
like once you got super deep in the game, you

1725
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,279
couldn't lock the ghost bike, and the ghost bike like

1726
01:24:11,359 --> 01:24:14,039
your character couldn't like fall anymore, so you could do

1727
01:24:14,079 --> 01:24:16,520
crazy things where like you could get one wheel to

1728
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,600
like just land on like a part of the line,

1729
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,520
which is like the kind of course, and then you

1730
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,600
could like kind of hack through the level a little bit.

1731
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,399
But it was like obviously an intentional bike is just

1732
01:24:24,399 --> 01:24:26,119
a super late game one. But then we had to

1733
01:24:26,159 --> 01:24:27,800
be like, okay, guys, no ghost bike. We have to

1734
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,920
go back to like regular bike here. So that one,

1735
01:24:31,279 --> 01:24:33,560
that one in stick Man Golf was the other like

1736
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,000
asymmetrical multiplayer ones that me and my friends would play

1737
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:38,680
a lot of where it's like, yeah, you just you

1738
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,479
do a thing, you challenge your friend and they have

1739
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,439
to do the same thing, like whenever they're on their phone.

1740
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:47,039
The next time very good, like in between class kind

1741
01:24:47,039 --> 01:24:49,159
of games, quick, quick to pick up, but people got

1742
01:24:49,159 --> 01:24:51,319
super into them. That was a good times.

1743
01:24:53,119 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 2: The other game to Draw Something that was a big one.

1744
01:24:56,119 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, that that's a huge one for sure.

1745
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:00,600
Speaker 2: I miss that. I love to.

1746
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 1: Now we do like jack Box I guess, which is

1747
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,000
like kind of in that pocket.

1748
01:25:06,079 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, they don't really have I mean there's spin

1749
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,319
offs of it. I should look at getting something similar.

1750
01:25:14,359 --> 01:25:15,319
That was so much fun.

1751
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,520
Speaker 1: That must be like still in the app store. That

1752
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:18,399
came was huge, don't.

1753
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,319
Speaker 2: I don't see draw Something, but I see these other

1754
01:25:20,359 --> 01:25:21,640
spinoffs on that people.

1755
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 1: Do, like the Scrabble one like that, like they just

1756
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,399
you know, quick little games of scrabble. Yeah, by the way,

1757
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,720
is it is it? Is it weird for me to

1758
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,760
put draw something on my backlog account? Like is that

1759
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,880
a weird game to log as? I? I don't think

1760
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,840
so cool, it's pretty iconic. It was because I've there's

1761
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,760
like five new things I've put on my backlog that

1762
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:44,720
I totally forgot about. So we're finding some good gold here.

1763
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 2: And you have Plans versus Zombies, which we've talked about.

1764
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:51,680
That was definitely a big one.

1765
01:25:52,039 --> 01:25:56,199
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, So uh, once again unstructured. We're going all

1766
01:25:56,239 --> 01:25:58,039
sorts of over the place. But I think that that's perfect.

1767
01:25:58,079 --> 01:26:00,159
So back to Xbox one. You have your we you

1768
01:26:00,279 --> 01:26:04,000
in this era, but Xbox one? Any other big games there?

1769
01:26:04,399 --> 01:26:07,000
Or are we moving moving?

1770
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,239
Speaker 2: This is where it starts to get into like the

1771
01:26:09,279 --> 01:26:14,920
main titles like yeah, newer stores, battlefronts, uh, newer called Duties,

1772
01:26:15,319 --> 01:26:17,279
all that sort of stuff. It got to a point

1773
01:26:17,279 --> 01:26:19,039
where here, okay, the WEU was at its end of

1774
01:26:19,039 --> 01:26:22,800
its life cycle. We had done the switch conference, you know,

1775
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,239
the game cube's most notable features, the handle, all that stuff,

1776
01:26:26,239 --> 01:26:30,920
but geek verse and yeah, we're now well into geek

1777
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:35,600
verse now. Yeah, And so at this point I traded.

1778
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:44,119
Speaker 1: The what was up before the series X What Xbox

1779
01:26:44,199 --> 01:26:50,720
was that Xbox one, x Xbox one, S Xbox They

1780
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:55,159
didn't have an elite for that, right, all they might have.

1781
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,439
I thought it was just Xbox one X and S

1782
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:02,840
I swear and then the Slim on top of that,

1783
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:09,079
which you already talked about, the Slim.

1784
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:17,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Xbox three, sixty, Xbox one, and so the Xbox okay, yeah,

1785
01:27:17,319 --> 01:27:23,800
so okay, okay, okay, the Xbox one. I upgraded to

1786
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:29,800
the Xbox one S and the Xbox One S. Wow.

1787
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,199
That can't be right, No, no, no.

1788
01:27:32,119 --> 01:27:35,119
Speaker 1: This can you feel like there's one missing? Yeah?

1789
01:27:35,119 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 2: Because wow? So the Series X was twenty twenty. Okay,

1790
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,840
so yeah that was graded. What the heck? I feel

1791
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:44,640
like the Series X is newer than that.

1792
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,319
Speaker 1: Well, so remind me, x you had Xbox One like

1793
01:27:47,359 --> 01:27:50,399
the original one, and then you had the Slim and

1794
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,079
then inn S or slim in s the same thing.

1795
01:27:53,399 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 2: So I went from three sixty to Xbox one. Then

1796
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:00,119
after that the next gen was Xbox Series X, and

1797
01:28:00,159 --> 01:28:02,359
then I went from Xbox Series X within the same

1798
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:08,000
gen to Xbox One S or sorry no, no, I'm getting confused.

1799
01:28:08,039 --> 01:28:12,000
Sorry yeah, yeah, this the way they labeled this stupid

1800
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:17,439
guide here. Oh my god. Okay, so I had three

1801
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:21,520
sixty upgraded to Xbox One. From Xbox One, I went

1802
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:25,159
to Xbox one S, and then Xbox one S. I

1803
01:28:25,279 --> 01:28:28,760
upgraded to the Xbox Series X. So within the same

1804
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,560
generation of the one gen, I went from Xbox one

1805
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:32,159
to the one.

1806
01:28:32,359 --> 01:28:35,520
Speaker 1: That's and I think sometimes they don't always list the

1807
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,960
slims because sometimes the slim even just becomes the new

1808
01:28:38,199 --> 01:28:40,640
basic skew right, and they're like phase old one like

1809
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:44,000
for PlayStation and stuff too. So so but okay, so

1810
01:28:44,039 --> 01:28:47,239
you had two separate Xbox ones and then moved up

1811
01:28:47,239 --> 01:28:49,279
to the series X. Obviously traded that in because there

1812
01:28:49,279 --> 01:28:50,279
wasn't really a reason.

1813
01:28:50,039 --> 01:28:54,079
Speaker 2: To keep exactly, and EB Games does pretty good trade

1814
01:28:54,119 --> 01:28:56,079
in stuff. They were a bit finicky here where we

1815
01:28:56,159 --> 01:28:59,199
live with the I think they have bylaws for trading

1816
01:28:59,359 --> 01:29:02,760
consoles games. So I had to go to West Colinea

1817
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:07,279
actually do the trade. Was kind of funny. Yeah, and

1818
01:29:07,319 --> 01:29:09,840
that's where I did my wi U trade up towards

1819
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,199
my switch as well.

1820
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 1: During that games is regretting making that purchase off your hands?

1821
01:29:18,239 --> 01:29:21,279
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. Yeah. At the time where I had

1822
01:29:21,319 --> 01:29:24,439
my my Xbox one, I think I had bought my

1823
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:28,479
p S three at that time too, and that's where

1824
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,920
I got my I got Skyrim for PS three, I

1825
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,079
bought the Uncharted Trilogy, played.

1826
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 1: The Charge Why Skyrim on PS three. I liked why not?

1827
01:29:36,199 --> 01:29:38,119
Why not PC? Okay, you liked Controller?

1828
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 2: Well, I played the heck out of Oblivion and beat

1829
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,000
Oblivion on PC. Yeah like that. And so by this

1830
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,079
time I was like, well I don't have my like,

1831
01:29:45,359 --> 01:29:47,319
I don't have a newer gaming rig that can really

1832
01:29:47,359 --> 01:29:50,199
handle these newer games like Skyrim. So console was the

1833
01:29:50,199 --> 01:29:52,359
easiest way to go about it. And when I looked

1834
01:29:52,359 --> 01:29:54,560
at the controller for Xbox, I always feel like that

1835
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,359
was I'm biased because I think that's much more intuitive

1836
01:29:57,359 --> 01:29:59,159
controller and I just feel so good in the hands.

1837
01:29:59,399 --> 01:30:01,880
But when I was looking at my cousin playing Skyrim

1838
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:06,119
and seeing the level of organization and spells and just

1839
01:30:06,159 --> 01:30:08,560
how to manage and just navigating the menu, there's a

1840
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,520
lot going on. I'd look at the PlayStation control and thought,

1841
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,960
this controller seems like it's easier to keep things organized.

1842
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,439
It's more rigid, but in a rigid way that you

1843
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:21,720
can actually catalog and just easily pull from different areas

1844
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,479
like really quickly and do things. And so that's where

1845
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:28,279
I ended up going about it. And so I've done everything.

1846
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,319
Speaker 1: So what else was on the PSDB that you were playing?

1847
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:37,319
Speaker 2: I charted one through two and three meg which was

1848
01:30:37,359 --> 01:30:41,000
pretty crazy. That was a super online experience. And I

1849
01:30:41,039 --> 01:30:43,760
bought PlayStation Move and I bought like the gun attachment

1850
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:45,359
and everything, so I had a lot of fun with

1851
01:30:45,399 --> 01:30:50,319
that motion sensor stuff for a little bit. What else

1852
01:30:50,359 --> 01:30:54,239
did I get? Infamous one, Infamous two, Those were a

1853
01:30:54,239 --> 01:30:59,880
lot of fun Aliens Clonal Marines got that on PlayStation

1854
01:31:00,159 --> 01:31:01,800
as well, not on Xbox.

1855
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 1: And because obviously you're coming to this late, so like

1856
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,600
these things are cheap, I'm assuming it islike get a

1857
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:07,319
few of these things.

1858
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 2: I bought brand new Aliens Clone Marines bought new on

1859
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,560
Charted three. I bought the Collector's editions. I got like

1860
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:22,439
the whole bunch of extra fancy things with that. Warhawk

1861
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:23,159
was another one.

1862
01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: There's a I remember that the Hawk.

1863
01:31:25,399 --> 01:31:26,520
Speaker 2: That was pretty cool.

1864
01:31:35,399 --> 01:31:37,279
Speaker 1: Checking the shelf, it's.

1865
01:31:37,119 --> 01:31:39,119
Speaker 2: On the shelf behind me. I got all the games

1866
01:31:39,159 --> 01:31:43,279
so nice so called four that was a big one

1867
01:31:43,279 --> 01:31:50,840
for that was exclusive nice and Resistance. Resistance was another one.

1868
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,880
I really enjoyed. Resistance Fall of Man was the first one.

1869
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,960
I think there were three of them, which again Hell

1870
01:31:57,039 --> 01:31:59,159
Divers gives me some resistance vice because some of the

1871
01:31:59,239 --> 01:32:01,680
armor looks like the helmets and the gear that you

1872
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:03,600
get in Resistance, which is pretty cool.

1873
01:32:04,119 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, that's like a bigger because I think I

1874
01:32:09,039 --> 01:32:10,760
forgot that you even had a PS three. But yeah,

1875
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:12,079
that's like that was a pretty big era then. I

1876
01:32:12,119 --> 01:32:13,720
guess you were playing a lot of games in that time.

1877
01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:19,199
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I took advantage, but like good, yeah, so

1878
01:32:19,239 --> 01:32:21,439
that again, that kind of it fizzled off once I

1879
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,560
got more INTI I mean, one.

1880
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,079
Speaker 1: Not to dump on the Xbox One, but I feel

1881
01:32:26,079 --> 01:32:27,880
like you kind of maybe needed to supplement that a

1882
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:30,920
bit just because that console. They weren't churning out hits

1883
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,359
every every month on the Xbox one era, right, so

1884
01:32:33,399 --> 01:32:34,840
you kind of had to go elsewhere a little bit.

1885
01:32:35,159 --> 01:32:37,880
So I liked that. For most people that was PS four,

1886
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:39,119
but for you it was like, you know what, I

1887
01:32:39,119 --> 01:32:41,279
missed the PS three then to go back and check

1888
01:32:41,279 --> 01:32:43,399
out that bad boy. So that's cool. That's that's a

1889
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:45,640
nice little pocket there. I don't feel like I knew

1890
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:46,560
much about it.

1891
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:49,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really really nice. And again to like

1892
01:32:49,239 --> 01:32:52,319
my my aunt that lived here, so when I would

1893
01:32:52,359 --> 01:32:55,960
go and visit her, she had a PS three. She

1894
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,000
also had a game cube and so that's actually where

1895
01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,640
I got to play mark Art Double Dashes because she

1896
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,640
had a Cube. And then I remember she gave me

1897
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:05,600
a whole bunch of GameCube games. Oh sorry, this is stuff.

1898
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:07,960
The more you talk about it, just this is.

1899
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,119
Speaker 1: What I'm so glad this happened, and this is exactly

1900
01:33:10,119 --> 01:33:14,359
what I wanted. This purpose what was it called GameCube game?

1901
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:18,079
Can you describe it?

1902
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:22,319
Speaker 2: Hack Tack and TAC two. Yeah, she gave me both

1903
01:33:22,359 --> 01:33:24,520
of those games, which those were a lot of freaking

1904
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,359
fun for GameCube. And she gave me a bunch of

1905
01:33:26,359 --> 01:33:29,319
other GameCube games, like It's just a whole bunch and

1906
01:33:29,319 --> 01:33:32,439
like two Orange GameCube controllers too, which is really really

1907
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:36,439
awesome the best. And yeah, so there there was that.

1908
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:40,399
And then yeah, her playing PlayStation three. That's okay. She

1909
01:33:40,399 --> 01:33:42,399
she had uncharted too, And but so I was there

1910
01:33:42,399 --> 01:33:43,960
and I played Uncharted too. I thought, okay, this is

1911
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,359
actually a lot of fun. And that's what kind of

1912
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:48,239
put my interest out there to get a PS three

1913
01:33:48,279 --> 01:33:49,439
eventually and get those games.

1914
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,079
Speaker 1: Gotcha. Okay. One thing that Tack reminded me of And

1915
01:33:53,159 --> 01:33:55,000
I don't even know if this is accurate attack, but

1916
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,319
you've always been a dinosaur guy. I no dinosaur games,

1917
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,039
I feel like you've mentioned.

1918
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 2: Yet, No tur Rock, no nothing.

1919
01:34:04,359 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: They just never you never sought them out. They never

1920
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,560
happened upon upon you. What happened there? Why do you

1921
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,399
think you as a big dinosaur guy, why do you

1922
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:17,920
think you never sought that out? I guess I don't

1923
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,680
even know what like the iconic dinosaur games are. Maybe

1924
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:24,079
that's the reason. Maybe they aren't, just like it hasn't

1925
01:34:24,079 --> 01:34:26,159
been mined super successful, So a lot.

1926
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:32,279
Speaker 2: Of Jurassic Park games for sure. But yeah, it's just something. Yeah,

1927
01:34:32,319 --> 01:34:36,800
I never necessarily hopped onto. If they were in games

1928
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:39,399
that I played, then that's that's great. I know Starbucks

1929
01:34:39,399 --> 01:34:43,560
Adventures Dinosaur Haven, but I never I never got into adventures.

1930
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:48,960
My cousin was into adventures. I was into assault. Yeah, no,

1931
01:34:49,039 --> 01:34:51,319
I just I still I just love dinosaurs. But I

1932
01:34:51,319 --> 01:34:53,760
think probably the first one that I got would have

1933
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:59,720
been Drass. It was a Telltale game Jurassic Park. I

1934
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:01,760
think it was. It is called the Telltale Jurassic Park.

1935
01:35:02,199 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and that would have been Xbox Game.

1936
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:09,039
Speaker 2: One era three sixty.

1937
01:35:09,279 --> 01:35:12,159
Speaker 1: I have it for that's older thought, okay, cool.

1938
01:35:12,399 --> 01:35:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that game is brutal and it's so much fun.

1939
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:18,439
I should play that game again. It's so hilarious playing

1940
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:23,520
out the different storylines. But yeah, I don't think other

1941
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,960
than that, what other games? I guess There was Drastic

1942
01:35:26,079 --> 01:35:30,039
World Evolution that I got on the Xbox One. Played

1943
01:35:30,079 --> 01:35:31,560
a good hefty amount of.

1944
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 1: That, and then well, okay, now I'm just thinking about

1945
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,039
this because we were just about to get into Xbox

1946
01:35:38,079 --> 01:35:40,680
Series X. But I guess you would have had to

1947
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:45,800
switch first, right, because that can be twenty eighteen or no,

1948
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,359
twenty seventeen even yeah, versus the twenty twenty of.

1949
01:35:48,359 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 2: The X's that's right. I didn't get the switch right away.

1950
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,359
I remember people saying like, oh, you know it's hard

1951
01:35:53,399 --> 01:35:55,079
to get yeah, yeah, yeah. But I went into with

1952
01:35:55,079 --> 01:35:55,680
my we you.

1953
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,119
Speaker 1: To trade in It's like, yeah, we got switches, Like okay, cool.

1954
01:35:58,319 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 2: I got the switch, but I got that first because yes,

1955
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:05,520
I still had my one S at the time. And

1956
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,399
then I remember going to EB Games and because I

1957
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,560
remember sitting at work in the office, I had my

1958
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:15,159
phone opened up in the queue and I had my computer,

1959
01:36:15,359 --> 01:36:17,079
my work computer open up in the queue. Trying to

1960
01:36:17,119 --> 01:36:20,520
get in line to get an Xbox Series X was

1961
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:24,720
not happening. So I just walked into TB Games like hey,

1962
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,800
do you got any and like, yeah, we we got

1963
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:28,359
some you can order. I was like, oh, perfect, So

1964
01:36:28,399 --> 01:36:31,600
I ended up getting one of those cool in person.

1965
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:36,239
Speaker 1: Nice So what is the Yeah, I guess what are

1966
01:36:36,239 --> 01:36:37,760
the iconic switch games for you? Then?

1967
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:42,279
Speaker 2: What was the Time Continuer Poken tournament for sure, Mario Maker,

1968
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:50,079
Mario Kart, Yeah, but probably mostly just poken tournaments. I

1969
01:36:50,079 --> 01:36:52,119
think that one was just the Be's Knees. I love

1970
01:36:52,159 --> 01:36:53,039
that game so much.

1971
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,640
Speaker 1: M hm cool. Okay, does that take us into the

1972
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:57,600
Series X then.

1973
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say we're at the Series X now, which

1974
01:37:03,079 --> 01:37:05,159
I mean, my my library is kind of calmed down

1975
01:37:05,199 --> 01:37:07,079
at this point because most of the games that I

1976
01:37:07,199 --> 01:37:10,239
have were all for Xbox One, and so with the

1977
01:37:10,279 --> 01:37:13,920
Series X, it's just newer Call of Duty iterations. Still

1978
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,600
every Call of Duty to let's come out at this

1979
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:22,359
point except ghosts. What else was there? Yeah? Star Wars

1980
01:37:22,399 --> 01:37:26,840
games usually always getting Star Wars games. I haven't beaten Outlaws,

1981
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,039
but it's still you know, any Star Wars game. I'm

1982
01:37:29,039 --> 01:37:31,279
gonna try it. I want to play it, experience it.

1983
01:37:33,239 --> 01:37:34,840
What else was there?

1984
01:37:35,039 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 1: Do you feel like, because yeah, Series X five years

1985
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:41,119
ago now for you, is there a differentiation in like

1986
01:37:41,399 --> 01:37:43,920
eras within that or has that just kind of been

1987
01:37:44,319 --> 01:37:46,000
the Series X has been kind of one era because

1988
01:37:46,039 --> 01:37:48,000
obviously you just got to switch to But I feel

1989
01:37:48,039 --> 01:37:50,000
like you really have only played like Mario Kart World

1990
01:37:50,039 --> 01:37:51,600
on there, so I feel like that is still yet

1991
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,359
to be written in terms of what that means for

1992
01:37:53,399 --> 01:37:55,920
you in the long term, or do you have like

1993
01:37:55,960 --> 01:38:00,239
differentiations of like your series X era early era, we're

1994
01:38:00,279 --> 01:38:02,399
five years deep, maybe a couple of years away from

1995
01:38:02,399 --> 01:38:04,479
the next one, because I feel like right now to me,

1996
01:38:05,359 --> 01:38:11,039
between Hell Divers, between you know, Call of Duty, war Zone,

1997
01:38:11,039 --> 01:38:15,600
whether it's us even doing like Outlast Trials or Texas Chainsaw,

1998
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,399
like I feel like to me, it seems like most

1999
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:19,720
of your game time these days is like it's like

2000
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,039
a social thing for you. It's like a social multiplayer

2001
01:38:22,079 --> 01:38:23,920
like that's kind of where your focus is, and then

2002
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:25,920
you're kind of hitting up some of the nostalgia hits,

2003
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,239
like you've kind of talked about there. That's that's how

2004
01:38:28,279 --> 01:38:29,800
I think of you currently. And has that kind of

2005
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:31,359
been the case for all of the series X era,

2006
01:38:31,399 --> 01:38:33,680
would you say earlier.

2007
01:38:33,319 --> 01:38:39,199
Speaker 2: On for well, yeah, for the Xbox One S Era,

2008
01:38:39,319 --> 01:38:41,880
it was definitely a lot more single player stuff and whatnot.

2009
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:43,640
But now with the series acts, I think you're right,

2010
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:46,520
it's a lot more of a social kind of setting.

2011
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:50,199
I'd say that I like to engage with I would

2012
01:38:50,279 --> 01:38:53,039
love to have the ability and the time to go

2013
01:38:53,119 --> 01:38:56,239
through and do like single player games, but usually for

2014
01:38:56,279 --> 01:38:58,079
the most part, when I put a single player game in,

2015
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,279
I will pass out. I'm just so tired. It's just

2016
01:39:01,399 --> 01:39:03,000
it sucks because I'd love to be able to just

2017
01:39:03,039 --> 01:39:05,279
explore those stories and play more of those games, but

2018
01:39:05,319 --> 01:39:08,359
I just can't. But when I play social games usually

2019
01:39:08,399 --> 01:39:11,880
like I'm engaging, I'm talking, you know, it keeps me awake,

2020
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,359
and I have a lot of fun playing with you guys.

2021
01:39:14,399 --> 01:39:17,960
That's just one of the highlights. Because at any point

2022
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,319
in time, like I said, I can go and I

2023
01:39:20,319 --> 01:39:22,880
could put on a single player game. I could be

2024
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,319
eighty years old and I could play a single player game. True,

2025
01:39:25,399 --> 01:39:28,079
But you know, to play with my friends, it's just

2026
01:39:28,119 --> 01:39:29,920
like I'm back in high school, Lari live in some

2027
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:31,960
of the best gaming days of my life, and so

2028
01:39:32,119 --> 01:39:34,399
to people play with you guys, it's just it's fantastic.

2029
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:36,800
Call Duty was one I never thought I would get

2030
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,680
to experience that again. And for years, not just a

2031
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:45,239
small little like vacation time, like it was years. We've

2032
01:39:45,279 --> 01:39:47,319
just been going hard on multiple Call of Duties in

2033
01:39:47,359 --> 01:39:49,239
war Zone and that has just been a dream come true.

2034
01:39:49,279 --> 01:39:50,800
And yeah, all the other games that you said that

2035
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:54,199
we've done very social, like Texas Chancel Ofmascer, Rocket League,

2036
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:59,800
all these different things, and again now Hell Divers. It's

2037
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:05,159
just and absolutely fantastic. So I'm very much into the social, social,

2038
01:40:05,239 --> 01:40:08,279
online multiplayer games. Friday the thirteenth, I'm gonna shoot that

2039
01:40:08,319 --> 01:40:09,920
out too, because that was a real big one too,

2040
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,680
and Travis got into that first, and you know, I

2041
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,119
followed suit with him onto that and Jazz is such

2042
01:40:16,359 --> 01:40:18,840
a legendary game, and so that's one I'm looking forward to.

2043
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:22,720
The new Michael Myers Halloween one, also biophonic, because I'm

2044
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,600
hoping they do something good with that.

2045
01:40:25,359 --> 01:40:30,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean that takes us today, doesn't it.

2046
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:39,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Coach to Fire Emblem, Mario Kart World, that's

2047
01:40:39,119 --> 01:40:39,880
what's about it.

2048
01:40:40,359 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess because the director happened last week. You

2049
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:46,119
weren't on the side Quest episode talking about it, but yeah,

2050
01:40:46,159 --> 01:40:48,520
anything in there that got you super super Jazz, anything

2051
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,760
that you're like, oh, I'm picking that up day one?

2052
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:56,399
Speaker 2: No, I mean they ended on a new Fire Emblem title, correct, Yeah,

2053
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:59,760
are you interested in that? It's interesting, but I don't

2054
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,319
think I'm gonna be off to the races and getting

2055
01:41:02,319 --> 01:41:05,239
it right away. I caught that there was more Resident Evil,

2056
01:41:05,279 --> 01:41:08,439
which is pretty cool, but I'm not going to necessarily

2057
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:11,319
hop on that either. My main disappointment is that there's

2058
01:41:11,359 --> 01:41:13,560
no new main Mario game, which I would have liked.

2059
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:19,760
I would love to again, I want some Mario Tennis.

2060
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,439
Fever is cool, but I don't It's not what I'm

2061
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:25,479
gonna get right away, so I don't know. I would

2062
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:29,760
like something with a little bit more. I don't know, zest,

2063
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,439
I don't need a new Smash Pros. I'm happy with

2064
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:34,520
the Smash Pros that we got that's, you know, still good,

2065
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,279
and Mario Kart is great, but yeah, just give me,

2066
01:41:37,319 --> 01:41:40,720
give me a you got Donkey Kong. So I'm just

2067
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:43,439
being greedy. Really, I'd like a new Luigi's Mansion. I'd

2068
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:45,520
like a new Mario those those are the kind of

2069
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:48,520
things that speak to me, or a new main Pokemon

2070
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:52,359
game and not the one that's like, yeah, Ditto Adventures

2071
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:53,680
or whatever that was called.

2072
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:58,079
Speaker 1: So would Mario Maker fill that void for you? Would

2073
01:41:58,520 --> 01:41:59,159
you be thrilled with that?

2074
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 2: I'd be you very thrilled with that. Mario Maker would

2075
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:05,079
definitely be one that that I would get behind.

2076
01:42:05,159 --> 01:42:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that it's bound to happen, But

2077
01:42:09,079 --> 01:42:12,119
considering it's Mario's fortieth anniversary and they didn't announce it. It

2078
01:42:12,079 --> 01:42:15,079
makes me think that they weren't cooking that up. But

2079
01:42:15,279 --> 01:42:17,800
I don't know that the fortieth Mario stuff was a

2080
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,319
little disappointed in general. But that's I don't know.

2081
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 2: The pot has over boiled and water is spilling everywhere

2082
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,520
and smoke is steaming. That's that's how I felt.

2083
01:42:28,039 --> 01:42:31,119
Speaker 1: Jesus, Wow, what is this world description? Like?

2084
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:34,399
Speaker 2: Sorry, they just they they did a good job at

2085
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,640
getting up you know, some excitement by oh Mario this,

2086
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:40,000
Mario that, but like getting that Yoshi game not for me,

2087
01:42:40,399 --> 01:42:42,039
you know, but to each his own. I'm sure someone's

2088
01:42:42,039 --> 01:42:44,359
gonna be happy with that. And what was the other

2089
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:46,239
stuff that they they showed?

2090
01:42:47,399 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 1: What was the other Well, the biggest thing that they said,

2091
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:51,880
the biggest way to sober this is the Mario movie.

2092
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,000
So if you're a gamer, get in line.

2093
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 2: You're gonna be waiting to play that on my my

2094
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,920
switch to No, I don't think so, because yeah, you

2095
01:42:58,920 --> 01:42:59,800
can't put a disc.

2096
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,520
Speaker 1: In that bad boy. They don't have YouTube or Netflix

2097
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:04,640
on there like they used to once once upon a time, right,

2098
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:06,000
or maybe they have YouTube. I don't even think they

2099
01:43:06,039 --> 01:43:06,760
have YouTube anymore.

2100
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 2: They had the Netflix app on the Wii. That's right.

2101
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:09,920
They didn't do that on the Wii.

2102
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,399
Speaker 1: You know, they had on the the we you I remember,

2103
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:14,439
that's how I watched Netflix, I think back in the

2104
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:18,319
time originally for a minute there and yeah, the Switch

2105
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,720
never got a Netflix think it had a YouTube app.

2106
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,640
I think I might even be wrong about that. I

2107
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:24,279
might be thinking about three. Yes, I don't even know

2108
01:43:24,359 --> 01:43:29,279
if I'm right with that, but uh yeah, and then yeah,

2109
01:43:29,319 --> 01:43:32,640
don't forget that. There's there's uh the racing bib for

2110
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:35,479
the for the Tokyo Marathon or whatever. So that's a

2111
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:36,880
big thing. You know, if you're gonna go to the

2112
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:41,479
Mario Museum in Japan, the ticket special ticket, So come on, tay,

2113
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:46,479
these thing's okay, mar Galaxy, Mario Galaxy. I guess that's

2114
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:48,399
what they wanted you to do. Get the remakes or

2115
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:51,159
not even remakes, but re releases of Galaxy one and two.

2116
01:43:51,279 --> 01:43:53,560
Speaker 2: So I have to commit and indulge a little bit

2117
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,119
more into the first Galaxy.

2118
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:57,039
Speaker 1: I guess you have that.

2119
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:59,079
Speaker 2: I do have it. I do have it. So if that,

2120
01:43:59,359 --> 01:44:01,760
you know, if i'd be that and it satisfies my

2121
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,239
ish that maybe I will drop some Coin and get

2122
01:44:04,239 --> 01:44:05,960
Mara Galaxy too, but we'll see.

2123
01:44:06,119 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, obviously, as we've discussed in this conversation, there's

2124
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:11,840
many games that we kind of went back to. Oh

2125
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:13,640
forgot about this, Oh forgot about that. We went back

2126
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:15,880
and had little tangents anything else off the top of

2127
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:17,680
your head right now that you're like, oh, we forgot

2128
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,319
to mention this, there's this era, this genre, anything we

2129
01:44:20,359 --> 01:44:23,680
haven't talked about yet. Obviously, this in theory could be

2130
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:27,960
a multiple hour long conversation. But any big points that

2131
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:29,199
we haven't struck yet.

2132
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:32,680
Speaker 2: Let me look around my room.

2133
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 1: I can't think of a console. I can't think of

2134
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:38,640
a console that I think you would have forgotten. I

2135
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:40,840
think we've been pretty thorough at this point.

2136
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:45,640
Speaker 2: I did. I did get an original Xbox after. This

2137
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:50,640
was after three sixty period, like time this might have been. No,

2138
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,239
this is during three sixty. This was much later. Got

2139
01:44:53,279 --> 01:44:58,000
original Xbox one. I think my mom got it from

2140
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:01,479
like the not a pawn shop, thrift store something like that,

2141
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,880
brought home and so I started clicking original three sixty

2142
01:45:05,199 --> 01:45:08,439
original Xbox games, which I do have quite a few

2143
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:10,840
of them still. I think I sent a photo to

2144
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:14,199
the chat I had like Ninja Gaiden and a few

2145
01:45:14,239 --> 01:45:21,560
other titles for original Xbox Marwind a few Ghost recon

2146
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:23,840
titles too, so there's there's a few that I have

2147
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:27,720
for it. I don't know what happened to it, though,

2148
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:29,720
and I'm quite sad that I've I've never been able

2149
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:31,399
to find it. I've always kept it in this certain

2150
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:35,359
like tote bag, and I have the tote bag, but

2151
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:38,399
it's not in there, and I don't know what happened

2152
01:45:38,399 --> 01:45:41,319
to it. So I'm I'm kind of sad about that

2153
01:45:41,359 --> 01:45:41,680
because I.

2154
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:45,279
Speaker 1: Wish you've like moved recently, so normally that's when those

2155
01:45:45,319 --> 01:45:49,359
things would get misplaced. That's strange. Yeah, you've rub into

2156
01:45:49,399 --> 01:45:51,079
a rot or not or something you leaved at Ruben's

2157
01:45:51,079 --> 01:45:51,920
house and then he moved.

2158
01:45:52,239 --> 01:45:56,239
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean if anything. Yeah, I just

2159
01:45:57,119 --> 01:45:58,920
no idea, no idea what happened with it?

2160
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:02,039
Speaker 1: Right? Strange, Yeah, but.

2161
01:46:02,039 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 2: I can't think of anything else.

2162
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 1: Really.

2163
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:09,279
Speaker 2: I used to have a much bigger video game collection.

2164
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:13,359
My library was huge. But it's something that I you know,

2165
01:46:13,399 --> 01:46:16,720
I simmered down, garbed a lot of the games, sold

2166
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:18,920
a lot of the games, and when I back in

2167
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:21,199
twenty ten, when I worked at the movie theater. For

2168
01:46:21,239 --> 01:46:24,319
some reason, I just kept her seats. So I'd be going,

2169
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:27,520
like every paycheck, you know, back then, you're making I

2170
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:29,359
think I was making seven to fifty an hour. It

2171
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:33,119
was low, low, low, low, brutal, but you know, every

2172
01:46:33,119 --> 01:46:35,960
paycheck was good. It was like three hundred and fifty bucks.

2173
01:46:36,039 --> 01:46:38,119
Oh my god. So I was going to EB.

2174
01:46:38,119 --> 01:46:40,119
Speaker 1: Games and I was buying Helly games.

2175
01:46:40,159 --> 01:46:43,039
Speaker 2: I was doing the wrong shit. Kids, if you're listening,

2176
01:46:43,279 --> 01:46:46,000
don't do that. Don't do what Uncle Taylor did. Just

2177
01:46:46,079 --> 01:46:49,680
put your money into RSPs. Save that shit, go to school.

2178
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:53,039
So I kept all the re seats, and I remember

2179
01:46:53,079 --> 01:46:55,479
after one year, my mom was like, yeah, clean your room.

2180
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,039
So she was helping me clean up my room and

2181
01:46:57,119 --> 01:46:59,119
I was going through and I had this big stack

2182
01:46:59,239 --> 01:47:02,119
wad of re seats. I want to say it was

2183
01:47:02,159 --> 01:47:05,399
like up like three thousand dollars of just like video game.

2184
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:08,319
Speaker 1: Wow. I really don't think I want to know how

2185
01:47:08,359 --> 01:47:11,640
much money I've spent on video games over the years.

2186
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:13,199
It's probably no ft.

2187
01:47:13,399 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think that you're gonna make a difference and

2188
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:21,119
you're gonna stop, but you don't. Yeah, you buy hell

2189
01:47:21,199 --> 01:47:21,920
Divers too.

2190
01:47:22,159 --> 01:47:23,800
Speaker 1: You buy, like I said, this weekend I went to

2191
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:25,880
the used game store and bought like five Tony Hok

2192
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:30,159
games that I don't need, so that's definitely relatable. Thankfully,

2193
01:47:30,159 --> 01:47:31,840
I did have credit at that store at least, so

2194
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:35,479
I didn't technically spend money if you want to use

2195
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:39,680
that kind of math, you know, But anyway, that's how

2196
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,079
it works. Taylor, this was great. I feel like we

2197
01:47:42,199 --> 01:47:44,960
really found some good hidden secret pockets, things that have

2198
01:47:45,039 --> 01:47:47,000
never come up before. I learned a lot about you.

2199
01:47:47,039 --> 01:47:49,359
I'm sure the fans that's too. I think you learned

2200
01:47:49,399 --> 01:47:51,920
a little bit about yourself, remembering some things you thought

2201
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:54,800
you forgot. You know, a long bott we can't remember

2202
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:56,880
what I haven't forgotten or whatever that line he says

2203
01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,840
in the movie is. So this was really great. Thank

2204
01:47:59,880 --> 01:48:01,880
you so much for joining me. As I said, I

2205
01:48:02,079 --> 01:48:05,079
definitely want to do this with Kirkland and Travis at

2206
01:48:05,079 --> 01:48:06,479
some point too. I think it would be fun to

2207
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:08,880
go through and hear their history as well. But I

2208
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:12,279
hope everyone enjoyed something a little different here on side Quest.

2209
01:48:12,359 --> 01:48:13,760
Let me know if you want to get more of these,

2210
01:48:14,119 --> 01:48:16,439
And yeah, thank everyone for listening. We will be back

2211
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:49,119
again next week. Have a good one. Bye.