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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Ravera on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to my on the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, your Dave Silver.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we have Ray with breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is Eye on the Ball Breaking news on

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<v Speaker 3>Right, starting off with kind of what we ended that

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<v Speaker 3>last hour with talking about the Pacers in the Thunder

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<v Speaker 3>game six night. Obviously Thunder in the lead. Steve's sobing

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<v Speaker 3>for forty bucks back from what's his name, Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris back no more? Oh yeah, right, he's gonna streak

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<v Speaker 2>of losing to me. You're I'm gonna adopt the kai.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna adopt him pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Dave so graciously told me that Halliburtons is expected to

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<v Speaker 3>be to play this tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, So that that should make it more interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>It should. We'll see how healthy is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I mean you never know the Thunder, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>like we were talking about in game two even then

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<v Speaker 3>it was like he played obviously that Thundersilt kind of

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<v Speaker 3>rocked them that game. Yeah, it's gonna be a fun one.

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<v Speaker 3>Diamondbacks played earlier today Toronto. Yeah, beat Toronto nine to five,

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<v Speaker 3>one game under five hundred right now, so that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe they'll get something started.

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<v Speaker 5>Or maybe not or maybe not that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I really expect it, but you gotta you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>try to be optimistic for everybody, and it sis.

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<v Speaker 6>They're just such a difficult team to root for. How

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<v Speaker 6>many seventh and eighth inning blow ups by the bullpen

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<v Speaker 6>this season?

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<v Speaker 5>It happened again the other day.

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<v Speaker 6>It's nice to see they got a big lead but

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<v Speaker 6>then they almost blew it again. Today they were up

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<v Speaker 6>nine to one and they win nine to five, So

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<v Speaker 6>good for them. I guess trade deadline's coming. A lot

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<v Speaker 6>of players could be moving.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think they're buying or selling?

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're selling. I think that's fair. He made

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<v Speaker 3>Doka the Houston Rockets head coach. You know, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>give a number, but it was reported that he signed

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<v Speaker 3>to a long term contract, and.

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<v Speaker 5>He must be pretty good at what he does.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean he took the Celtics to the finals Warriors,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that was his first year there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, then he got that scandal, right, scandal, whatever the scandal.

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<v Speaker 3>Was, and then you know, obviously doing what he did.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's his second year in Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>Against the for a team that was not very good

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<v Speaker 2>the year before.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know, got him to the two seed

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<v Speaker 3>at the Warriors on the Ropes. It was Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I would imagine that he's a he's a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good coach. Steve Kurtz's son, Nicholas is going to join

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<v Speaker 3>the Warriors coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was, Yeah, I was surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize that he was the coach of the

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Cruz the Gli Yeah. Yeah, so someone else moved

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<v Speaker 2>into that spot of the gig and he moved up.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize that he was coaching like his dad.

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<v Speaker 2>And it would seem that if I guess that when

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<v Speaker 2>Steve eventually wants to leave, that maybe his son could

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<v Speaker 2>take I would assume. I mean, I was, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know anything. I don't, but you know, he's moving up.

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<v Speaker 2>And just remember thirty. Remember when these kids are just kids.

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<v Speaker 2>My son's thirty. Your sons are in the thirties, right, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 2>we're getting old. I'm aging well.

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<v Speaker 5>Though, Well, we could have a you know, the.

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<v Speaker 6>Dave didn't hear me. My ears are going back. Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 6>the Alalman kid. Yeah, that's Rick Allelman's son right as

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<v Speaker 6>the coach of Denver. So there's that whole generational thing

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<v Speaker 6>going here.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>No, and there was I think the Jaguars GM.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's like I think I'm pretty sure he's

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<v Speaker 3>under thirty the gall Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Football.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny because we knew Josh right when Josh

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<v Speaker 2>was Josh, and he was like thirty three when he

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<v Speaker 2>started taking over, like Kentucky and in that group always

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<v Speaker 2>forty five ish forty whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 5>But Nick and Nick is thirty two.

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<v Speaker 6>He's been coaching at Santa Cruz since twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 6>so just a couple of years he was, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>like the video coordinator. He kind of did all this

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<v Speaker 6>kind of jobs, going to break it into the business.

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<v Speaker 6>So good for him. You know, he's got a good

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<v Speaker 6>good mentor.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the one thing that that's what Steve has.

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<v Speaker 2>What's when when people talk about Steve Carrer, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing that pops into your mind?

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, tell me no, no, no, don't mind, uh class class, No,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's good leadership. I'm thinking just affable. He knows people, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he knows how to handle people. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>in the people business. Oh we all are in the

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<v Speaker 2>people business. Yeah, but he's great at it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I mean, and just the way he handles himself.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, he doesn't throw guys under the bus, self funny,

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<v Speaker 6>self effacing, you know, if there's a problem, you don't

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<v Speaker 6>really know.

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<v Speaker 5>He's just he's as good at.

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<v Speaker 6>It, and he's you know, he's managed some of the

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<v Speaker 6>biggest stars of our time. When you think about the

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<v Speaker 6>Curries and the Durance and Draymond and people like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that said, and this is when I brought up

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<v Speaker 2>your have you ever been have you ever.

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<v Speaker 5>Dated a hot shake?

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<v Speaker 5>That's kind of when it started.

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<v Speaker 2>Is people say, oh, he wins, he wins because he

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<v Speaker 2>has all these people. You know how difficult it would

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<v Speaker 2>be to manage those egos. It ain't easy, and I

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<v Speaker 2>use ain't just because, but it ain't easy because you

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<v Speaker 2>got dudes who want this and want that and want

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<v Speaker 2>keep them happy.

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<v Speaker 5>Try it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, the fact that they even gave up

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<v Speaker 6>Durant if you think about it, really, and he's gonna

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<v Speaker 6>gonna be one of the top what ten players of

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<v Speaker 6>all time, you know, and he just you know, the

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<v Speaker 6>chemistry was wrong, and so they just said go elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it it's wrong wherever he goes. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of like, uh, what's it Rogers, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's it's not a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I mean it's it's it's tough call for.

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<v Speaker 3>Durant too, because like, obviously, you know, they make it

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<v Speaker 3>to the finals when he's on the Thunder and then

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<v Speaker 3>you know that gets blown up and he goes to

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<v Speaker 3>the Warriors obviously, and then he goes to the Nets

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<v Speaker 3>and their toe away from beating the Bucks and going

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<v Speaker 3>to the finals there, and then you know, Kyrie was

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<v Speaker 3>doing his old kind of thing, and then after that

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<v Speaker 3>he ends up in in Phoenix, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like like if anything, I just I really think it's

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<v Speaker 3>just Phoenix that didn't fit well with because it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he almost made it, but I mean there

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<v Speaker 3>was external problems with like with Brooklyn and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it just feels.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, well, okay didn't work out with uh with

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<v Speaker 3>Booker speaking to Kevin Duranto, I was actually about to

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<v Speaker 3>bring this up, reported that the three teams he would

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<v Speaker 3>like to go to would be about Kevin Durant.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, okay, because you're talking about Booker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, but yeah, the Heat, the Spurs, and the Rockets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, he'd be, he'd be. I'm not proven enough

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<v Speaker 2>to know those teams. But Rockets that we just talked about,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's do you want them on your team?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, I guess, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>And then we've got the draft coming, so, I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>these teams are gonna around a little bit, you know

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<v Speaker 6>what I mean, it's gonna be weird the next month.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the drafts, what next week, next week, next

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<v Speaker 6>Things are gonna be, you know, switched around their rosters,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, there's so much movement. I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>who knows how these teams are going to look in

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<v Speaker 6>October when they go to training care.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's gonna be a tough call. Oh. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>kind of talked about this one as well.

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<v Speaker 3>With the new team that we're going to have and.

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<v Speaker 4>Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, they asked the immigration agents to leave the stadium

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<v Speaker 3>parking lot, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're outside of.

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<v Speaker 3>The gates, like they just like parked outside of the gates,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, yeah, there's like gates to get into the parking

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<v Speaker 6>they're closed, so people are not getting in, and neither

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<v Speaker 6>is ice.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so so where would they go? Where would they

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<v Speaker 2>go to get in the games?

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't go.

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<v Speaker 6>Their gates are going to eventually open. I'm sure, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna guess. I don't know if there's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 5>We live in a weird time.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe like a shuttle or something.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, we can laugh about it, but no, I know,

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<v Speaker 6>And these fans are like, you know, do they even

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<v Speaker 6>want to go to the games?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I hear you day we talked about that here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>would you want to? It's crazy? It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a it's a wild time. There's not a

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<v Speaker 3>lot going on today, but the Shador Sanders.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a bizarre He's having some problems.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he got caught for speeding twice.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, in one month, in a couple of weeks probably, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>this it was a couple of days ago. He was

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred and one in.

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<v Speaker 4>Sixty one or sixty uh that was yeah, yeah, and then.

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<v Speaker 5>Two weeks ago he did the other one.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you this is coming from a guy who partly

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<v Speaker 2>did stuff in Colorado that was show. He's the rug

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<v Speaker 2>because if he's doing here in a privileged type of situation.

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<v Speaker 5>Where the attentions, the newspapers are going to there to.

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<v Speaker 2>Report this stuff, right or the college isn't going to

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<v Speaker 2>cover wink we we've seen this stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, didn't he have a Bentley ter hit some greasy

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<v Speaker 6>car and he.

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<v Speaker 5>Was driving the truck?

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<v Speaker 6>Now they still do a reality show like on YouTube

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<v Speaker 6>the Brothers.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that even going to continue? Well? Up now? Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Because he's you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, what would you think? What would you think? I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>what what are you thinking? And he's not such thin

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<v Speaker 5>ice anyway? Right, third or fourth string quarterback?

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<v Speaker 6>You know I was watching, I mean I just was

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<v Speaker 6>joking with some friends just the other day, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>seeing him, you know and training whatever this is the

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<v Speaker 5>I've never been there.

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<v Speaker 5>Really road trip.

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<v Speaker 5>Going somewhere I don't like cold. It's one of the

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<v Speaker 5>see you at the Old Lodge, Don't break leg, Heavenly Valley,

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<v Speaker 5>Squad Valley. Yeah, I mean, just drink my old wait

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<v Speaker 5>for you to come down the hills.

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<v Speaker 2>Then not you David be a tall blonde.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's how it was in Minneapolis one time. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>it was ten degrees.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, well you were the final four two than one.

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<v Speaker 2>It was cold in it was cold. It was cold.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it was really cold.

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<v Speaker 6>because we were doing the game or the outside.

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<v Speaker 5>The figure about the games.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just remember myself with order of freezing my you

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<v Speaker 6>know what, it was cool. We would sit in our

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<v Speaker 6>Hard enough time talking in here, right, and it's cold.

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<v Speaker 6>It's cold in here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, with that, we'll go and come back and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>Steve now went five to two oh four seventy four forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Why the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in today Dave Silver

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone. We have coach Fred Harvey of the

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<v Speaker 2>track team. Does it even sound right anymore? You're retired?

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<v Speaker 8>No, it definitely sounds right. So it doesn't go away

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<v Speaker 8>that quickly. And as a matter of fact, he's not

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<v Speaker 5>That's true. What's is the coach emeritus? What's that? What's

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you know, uh, you know, we're actually working through

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<v Speaker 5>So Fred, we had you on the show. I had

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe aprilish or late May, maybe May.

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<v Speaker 5>I know. And then and then.

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<v Speaker 2>You maybe three days four days later, It's announced that

428
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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be retiring, and I'm thinking, yeah, so,

429
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<v Speaker 2>how why did you know this was gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you know, I mean honestly, we when I I

431
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<v Speaker 8>think about back even in September, you know, when uh,

432
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<v Speaker 8>when we got started with ball training and I had

433
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<v Speaker 8>my my first a actual you know, head coaches meeting,

434
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<v Speaker 8>you know, you know with you know, with Desri and

435
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<v Speaker 8>just talking about you know, you know, my future plans

436
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<v Speaker 8>and you know, and what I wanted to you know,

437
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<v Speaker 8>uh do within the program and and more importantly, what

438
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<v Speaker 8>I want to do with in our community. You know,

439
00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:29.640
<v Speaker 8>you know, I had a plan then. And as we

440
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<v Speaker 8>got closer and into the outdoor the indoor outdoor season,

441
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<v Speaker 8>you know, uh, some things became very very you know

442
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<v Speaker 8>apparent to me with you know, what my dreams and

443
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<v Speaker 8>ambitions are. I mean, I love, you know, the University

444
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<v Speaker 8>of Arizona. You know, Tucson, the southern Arizona community, and

445
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<v Speaker 8>and I felt that this was a really good time

446
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<v Speaker 8>for me to one if I'm able to continue to

447
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<v Speaker 8>have you know, involvement with the UH with athletic uh

448
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<v Speaker 8>you know department, and that's that's even that's even better

449
00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:05.799
<v Speaker 8>with the track and field program, that's even you know,

450
00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:11.119
<v Speaker 8>you know, even better. But I can start, you know,

451
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<v Speaker 8>do more things which I have always dripped about, you know,

452
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<v Speaker 8>within the community, you know, with our with our youth programs,

453
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<v Speaker 8>and you know, that's and that's one of our blueprint

454
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<v Speaker 8>you know models is you know, is engaging the community.

455
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<v Speaker 8>And I feel so strongly there's things that I can

456
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<v Speaker 8>do within the community to really help, you know, really

457
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<v Speaker 8>uh exploit that, you know at the highest level.

458
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<v Speaker 5>Maybe talk more about that. What what what are your

459
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<v Speaker 5>plans for the community.

460
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<v Speaker 6>Where are we going to see you you know, maybe

461
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<v Speaker 6>away from the track or in the classrooms or what

462
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<v Speaker 6>are we talking about here?

463
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<v Speaker 8>Well, one of the things, one of the things, uh,

464
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<v Speaker 8>you know, and we've had for a lot of years,

465
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<v Speaker 8>uh you know, is our is our too Sonvely Athletic

466
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<v Speaker 8>Club and you know, and my wife and I we

467
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<v Speaker 8>run that run that club. Really she does more of

468
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<v Speaker 8>the running of the club. And I've been com now

469
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<v Speaker 8>I'll be a little bit more involved, you know, you know,

470
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<v Speaker 8>in the day to day you know process of it.

471
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<v Speaker 8>But she's really the person that to behind that club.

472
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<v Speaker 8>And it's the largest club in you know, you know,

473
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<v Speaker 8>in southern Arizona. We we touch you know, uh, every

474
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<v Speaker 8>community you know that's within a fifty mile radius, and

475
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<v Speaker 8>uh we have. But my dream has always been when

476
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<v Speaker 8>I first came to Arizona and having a European style

477
00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:35.000
<v Speaker 8>professional athletic club, track and field club where we uh

478
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<v Speaker 8>were able to educate coaches, were able to develop young

479
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<v Speaker 8>athletes at the ages of seven, you know, to ten,

480
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<v Speaker 8>but really developing them properly, uh, in terms of preparing

481
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<v Speaker 8>their bodies for you know, uh you know, you know,

482
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<v Speaker 8>you know for uh you know, for activity. Uh. And

483
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<v Speaker 8>then you have a youth uh you know program that

484
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<v Speaker 8>will you know, that would run agency eleven eleven to fourteen,

485
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<v Speaker 8>and then after that you have your high school and

486
00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:06.720
<v Speaker 8>then and then you're in lead athletes from there, but

487
00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:11.240
<v Speaker 8>bringing them all up through the same system, building that

488
00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.519
<v Speaker 8>real sense of community because you know, track and fields,

489
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<v Speaker 8>you know, not just still in in Arizona and southern Arizona.

490
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<v Speaker 8>But in the United States, it's the largest participant sport.

491
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<v Speaker 8>You know that there is, and I feel strongly that

492
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<v Speaker 8>you know, there's things that we can do within our

493
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<v Speaker 8>community to really not just drive that, but you'll make

494
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<v Speaker 8>it an economic factor.

495
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you you showed up.

496
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<v Speaker 2>I choked about this last time you and I came

497
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<v Speaker 2>about the same time, maybe eighty seven eighty eight. You

498
00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:46.640
<v Speaker 2>were the longest tenured coach now left. Uh, as you

499
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<v Speaker 2>look back, or when you have a chance to look back,

500
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<v Speaker 2>what are some of the fondest memories you'll have because

501
00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:53.440
<v Speaker 2>you had a new party. Off the top of the head, no,

502
00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:56.559
<v Speaker 2>how many all Americans? How many champions? All that stuff?

503
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<v Speaker 8>You know? Well, you know it's someone I read that

504
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<v Speaker 8>somewhere honest, that truth. I mean, I I don't know

505
00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:08.319
<v Speaker 8>how many, but just some of the uh, it's I

506
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<v Speaker 8>think it's definitely well over one hundred and fifty. You know,

507
00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:17.039
<v Speaker 8>you know all Americans, you know, national champions and those things.

508
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<v Speaker 8>But the relationships you know that you have when we

509
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<v Speaker 8>have you know, thousands of athletes that literally to to

510
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<v Speaker 8>this moment, the head coach for example at at USC

511
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<v Speaker 8>you know who's Quincy Wats the head coach you know

512
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<v Speaker 8>at Georgia. They both just won national titles and you know,

513
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<v Speaker 8>and I've known them since they were babies and I

514
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<v Speaker 8>recruited them. And one of the things that when you

515
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<v Speaker 8>were you know, when you have this retirement party, if

516
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<v Speaker 8>we don't have an invite, we're going to take that

517
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<v Speaker 8>very personally, you know, but to be able to build

518
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<v Speaker 8>those relationships like that. But within our own community here,

519
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<v Speaker 8>you know, the you know, the the Michael Bates of

520
00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:02.680
<v Speaker 8>the world, you know, Georgia Moline, who's you know an

521
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<v Speaker 8>the Arizona athlete who support that the Olympic Games. You

522
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<v Speaker 8>know Michelle you know uh sco Michelle Johnson. At the time,

523
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<v Speaker 8>you know, we're you know, all developmental if you will athletes,

524
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<v Speaker 8>if you will that you know made it to the

525
00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:18.759
<v Speaker 8>world you know, you know, to the world stages, and

526
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<v Speaker 8>you know, you can't leave out like a person like

527
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<v Speaker 8>a Brianna Glenn who you know, you know, start gonna

528
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<v Speaker 8>she was a top ten team all by herself, you know,

529
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<v Speaker 8>at the NCAA Championship. But I think the the fondest

530
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<v Speaker 8>you know memories you know that I have when when

531
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<v Speaker 8>I look at you know, the you know, the families

532
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<v Speaker 8>that have been built, you know, with the athlete that

533
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<v Speaker 8>I've had an opportunity, you know, to have relationships with.

534
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<v Speaker 8>And that's you know, that's the that's the biggest thing

535
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<v Speaker 8>for me is that, you know, I always preach this,

536
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<v Speaker 8>I'm not a god. You know, I can't make you

537
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<v Speaker 8>the Olympic champion if you don't have the ability. But

538
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<v Speaker 8>if you're willing to follow up plan and you believe

539
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<v Speaker 8>in that plan, then I can help you have an

540
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<v Speaker 8>opportunity at that And and I think the latest you know,

541
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:12.559
<v Speaker 8>you know example of that, you know, Zach Eckstein, who

542
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:15.480
<v Speaker 8>uh you know was second at the this year's indoor

543
00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:20.400
<v Speaker 8>Nationals in the outdoor Championships and you know ran one

544
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<v Speaker 8>of the top ten times, number nine times in the world.

545
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:27.000
<v Speaker 8>I mean he was a walk on hurdler from you know, uh,

546
00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:31.519
<v Speaker 8>you know, from Chandler, Arizona. I have to give his

547
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<v Speaker 8>school due respect with the Perry High School. I keep

548
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.079
<v Speaker 8>I keep saying that he went to Desert Vesta, but

549
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.599
<v Speaker 8>that's where his coach was at. So I mean those

550
00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:45.160
<v Speaker 8>I mean, just that opportunity and just you know, wanting

551
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<v Speaker 8>to just think the you know, the community of you

552
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:52.079
<v Speaker 8>know of a sub Arizona Tucson of just giving me

553
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<v Speaker 8>this opportunity to be here this long and have an impact.

554
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<v Speaker 5>Somehow. I can see you being in LA and a

555
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:01.039
<v Speaker 5>years at the Olympics.

556
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<v Speaker 6>Do you think you'll have a role with maybe Team

557
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:05.640
<v Speaker 6>USA or or something out there?

558
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:11.119
<v Speaker 8>Well, well, well, my role in uh in twenty eight Uh,

559
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:15.119
<v Speaker 8>it has to be with me coaching an athlete. That's

560
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.960
<v Speaker 8>that's what that's what I want. I'm definitely gonna have

561
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:23.319
<v Speaker 8>you know one you know, you know, some type of

562
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<v Speaker 8>a role.

563
00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:24.279
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

564
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<v Speaker 8>You know they're in southern uh, you know, southern California.

565
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<v Speaker 8>And then part of what that's going to be, have

566
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<v Speaker 8>no idea whatsoever, but my Baptist way of having a

567
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:38.279
<v Speaker 8>role as one getting getting one of my athletes, you know,

568
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:40.759
<v Speaker 8>into the Olympic Games competing.

569
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<v Speaker 2>Could you you were here my time more than thirty

570
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<v Speaker 2>five years? Could you have left maybe for another place,

571
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:49.279
<v Speaker 2>but you wanted to stay here?

572
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<v Speaker 8>Oh? Absolutely? And it's it's we were with my wife

573
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:56.799
<v Speaker 8>and I in a couple of other coaches are having

574
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<v Speaker 8>this conversation literally just recently, you know, Uh so I

575
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:04.400
<v Speaker 8>interviewed uh, you know, in succession, I interviewed at Texas Tech.

576
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 8>I interviewed at at Tennessee, then Alabama. I interviewed out

577
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:16.160
<v Speaker 8>there for the head coaching job. I went out twice

578
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 8>for you know, technically two interviews and then the USC job.

579
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<v Speaker 8>You know, I'll never forget that man. Pat Hayden was

580
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 8>literally on his vacation and he landed in Hawaii. I

581
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<v Speaker 8>had told him before he before he left, that I

582
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:38.279
<v Speaker 8>wasn't interested in taking the USC job, and he says, okay,

583
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:40.799
<v Speaker 8>well just think about it. I'm going on vacation. He

584
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:44.079
<v Speaker 8>lands in UH in Hawaii and he calls me, he's

585
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.720
<v Speaker 8>are you sure you won't take the position? You know?

586
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:50.559
<v Speaker 8>And yeah, I'm what I want to do with my

587
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:55.160
<v Speaker 8>life and in my community. It's it's here in Arizona.

588
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.359
<v Speaker 8>It's uh it's in southern Arizona. I couldn't be the

589
00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:01.759
<v Speaker 8>same person that I am, quite frankly, you know, if

590
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:05.599
<v Speaker 8>I'm coaching at USC. And he absolutely respected that.

591
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:07.400
<v Speaker 5>Interesting.

592
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:10.720
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so the programs in good hands with the new coach.

593
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:12.759
<v Speaker 5>I assume you're on board.

594
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<v Speaker 8>With that, yeah, you know, and and and the UH

595
00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 8>I did. The interesting thing about it is that you

596
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:21.960
<v Speaker 8>went to about six degrees of separation, you know, his

597
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:27.440
<v Speaker 8>mentor and a person that truly influenced his life. Uh

598
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:31.160
<v Speaker 8>As the director he's going was was a coach teammate

599
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:34.680
<v Speaker 8>with me at cal Poly Slo. I'll send you a

600
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:38.279
<v Speaker 8>letter that that he wrote to the to the Mustang

601
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.880
<v Speaker 8>Daily Times or whatever the school newspaper was when I left.

602
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.480
<v Speaker 8>They didn't they didn't have the funding, the you know,

603
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:49.640
<v Speaker 8>the pay you know, coaches other than the head coach

604
00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:53.759
<v Speaker 8>at UH cal Poly. And so his mentor, Dave Tanelli,

605
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:57.759
<v Speaker 8>was the head coach at you know, uh at Virginia

606
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:00.960
<v Speaker 8>Tech for a number of years and really mentored him.

607
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.200
<v Speaker 8>And when I look at it's crazy. I interviewed him

608
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:09.039
<v Speaker 8>for my throws position when I hired you know, coach

609
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:12.640
<v Speaker 8>uh you know Lucas who's with us right now, you know,

610
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:17.519
<v Speaker 8>And there are things about you know, you know McKay

611
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 8>Luka is McKay, his his coaching technique, you know that

612
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:27.000
<v Speaker 8>I felt really fit the population of the athletes that

613
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:29.960
<v Speaker 8>we had better. Not that he was necessarily a better

614
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.039
<v Speaker 8>coach than you know than uh, you know, coach Jobbs,

615
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:39.400
<v Speaker 8>but his personality fit the population that we had. Ironically enough,

616
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<v Speaker 8>now this gentleman, I think he's gonna be a much

617
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<v Speaker 8>better to rest her, quite frankly, than just an individual coach,

618
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:53.279
<v Speaker 8>because I think his his his drive and his and

619
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 8>his desire to build programs, you know, your goals go wait,

620
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:02.640
<v Speaker 8>go beyond just uh an individual event area, and I

621
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 8>think that's what you know, we're looking at. To answer

622
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 8>your question, is he going to be great here? Time's

623
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Speaker 8>gonna tell mean, heck, we we don't know. I mean

624
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:16.880
<v Speaker 8>we we we hire coaches, you know, in all areas

625
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:20.640
<v Speaker 8>with the expectation that they fit our model and that

626
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.200
<v Speaker 8>they're going to be able to you know, uh do

627
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:26.839
<v Speaker 8>and exploit the things that we want the you know,

628
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.279
<v Speaker 8>the number one thing is that he has a He

629
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.799
<v Speaker 8>has definitely have the true passion and a love for

630
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:36.160
<v Speaker 8>you know, for the sport. And now just a matter

631
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<v Speaker 8>of you know, how do you how do you know,

632
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:41.799
<v Speaker 8>you know, adapt yourself into you know this you know,

633
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:46.000
<v Speaker 8>you know this environment here it's two times different, you know,

634
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 8>and it's different in a very exciting way because we

635
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<v Speaker 8>are a true college you know experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, no question, no question. Okay, So enough of

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff. Let's get to the important stuff. How do

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<v Speaker 2>you like Rogers going to your team?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, I'll tell you what you know, uh, and I'm

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<v Speaker 8>not a man on an island other than people who

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<v Speaker 8>are Roger haters, you know, all that all that guy

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<v Speaker 8>needs to be able to do is put the ball

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<v Speaker 8>where the heck it needs to be at. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>we don't need him running anything other than the offense.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I think that I think that he's gonna bring.

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<v Speaker 8>I think he's gonna bring a lot to the table.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think they're getting enough to be a super

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<v Speaker 8>Bowl team. I'm sorry, I'm a fan, you know that,

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<v Speaker 8>But the reality of it, there's my god, I think

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<v Speaker 8>he makes us a lot better.

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<v Speaker 6>You'll be able to travel a little bit more, maybe

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<v Speaker 6>go see some more games that usually get out there

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<v Speaker 6>like you know occasionally.

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<v Speaker 17>Right.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, yeah, so one of the you know, uh first

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<v Speaker 8>individuals who actually text me when my retirement was posted,

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<v Speaker 8>the very first person actually was Greg Burns, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and you know, he's just been one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 8>peak mentors in my life. You know, ever, of Emanuel

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<v Speaker 8>Cedric Gencioboui who hired me here, but his very he

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<v Speaker 8>remembered just clearly that one of my bucket lists when

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<v Speaker 8>I retire is to hit the major you know, collegiate

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<v Speaker 8>football stadiums and the NFL stadiums in Alabama was number

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<v Speaker 8>one on my lists because when I interviewed there, the

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<v Speaker 8>very first place I went, I didn't go to the

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<v Speaker 8>athletic Director's office. I went to the Bear Bryant Museum

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<v Speaker 8>and at that point they were tearing down the track

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<v Speaker 8>and they were making the track into an RV park

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<v Speaker 8>for football, and says I have a spot for you. Well,

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<v Speaker 8>I'll be there, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>So did he Was he the one that did the

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<v Speaker 2>interviewing to be the new coach?

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<v Speaker 5>Or was that before he got there?

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<v Speaker 8>That way before I remember a Bob Bakraft Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>So Bob Bockrock was the was the a D at

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<v Speaker 8>that point at Alabama when I interview Wow he was?

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<v Speaker 2>I got here on the show a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 8>Yep, he was. He was doctor Dempsey, no man, and

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<v Speaker 8>he said no really well.

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<v Speaker 5>He was that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So so did what what made you say no to him?

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<v Speaker 2>Or did it come to that point?

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<v Speaker 8>Well? You know, and so when you look at financially,

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<v Speaker 8>it was a much different scenario, you know. But Tucson

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<v Speaker 8>and the Southern Arizona community, for me, if this that

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<v Speaker 8>was it, I mean I made enough money. I make

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<v Speaker 8>enough money where you know, we're not getting filthy rich.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know. I don't have the basketball contract by

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<v Speaker 8>me stretch of the imagination, you know. But we're living

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<v Speaker 8>well enough where you know, all my kids went to

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<v Speaker 8>school here.

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<v Speaker 13>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>My son works in the I T department right now.

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<v Speaker 8>My my daughter got her masked here just recently, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>from l r N Marketing, and she's she's working at

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<v Speaker 8>you know, at Banner you know, uh, you know with uh,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, in the marketing department you know there. And

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<v Speaker 8>then my middle daughter got our degree at psychology here

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<v Speaker 8>and now she's a family therapist you know, out in

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<v Speaker 8>Georgia and so so Tucson and Arizona, the southern Arizona community.

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<v Speaker 8>It's it's it's my family, and I just yeah, I

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<v Speaker 8>have a dream and I have this vision as to

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<v Speaker 8>what you know, I say, our sport and that you know,

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<v Speaker 8>the sport of you know, of track and field, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>can be given the opportunity. And so now that you

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<v Speaker 8>know I'm not necessarily restricted by some n c A rules,

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<v Speaker 8>there's a lot of other things that I think I

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<v Speaker 8>can do within the community to really explode you know

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<v Speaker 8>what we're capable of doing, you know, with national championships.

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<v Speaker 8>You know that we can bring to you know, to

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<v Speaker 8>this unity. That would be something really special.

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<v Speaker 5>Very nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me say this, I'll probably never reached retirement age

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm doing what I'm doing. But you and Dave,

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<v Speaker 2>Dave's retired, he has nothing to do. But you guys

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<v Speaker 2>should go fishing.

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<v Speaker 5>We should. We got some stories, We got some stories

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<v Speaker 5>we can tell each other.

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<v Speaker 13>Right.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, ironically enough, he's he's up at Jim Click's rent

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<v Speaker 8>as we speak. He's probably not doing a heck of

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of fishing, but that he's definitely has his

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<v Speaker 8>feed up in that beautiful Uh. I like to call

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<v Speaker 8>it a cabin, but it's it's a little beyond the cabin.

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<v Speaker 5>Who are you talking about? Real quick? Dave Murray? Oh

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<v Speaker 5>Dave Burry, No, yeah, yeah, no, ok. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I was going to text you about him,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was saying, Dave Silver, my boy here right here,

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<v Speaker 2>because he's retired.

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<v Speaker 8>Ah well, yeah, well he knows, he knows all the stories.

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<v Speaker 8>He brought all the stories from Sanuel's.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you guys go back to Oh yeah, I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>we were there. We were there at the same time.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh that's what I got here first, and all of

736
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<v Speaker 6>a sudden here comes Fred walking through McHale. Wait a second.

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<v Speaker 6>It's one of the one of the great like Forrest

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<v Speaker 6>Gump stories.

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<v Speaker 5>You know it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was unbelievable. Okay, well bred, always could talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy your time. We'll probably talk to you again when

742
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<v Speaker 2>Rogers is screwing up the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, oh don't don't. Don't count on that one. We

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<v Speaker 8>are the Steeler.

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<v Speaker 5>They'll miss it up on their own. I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you man.

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<v Speaker 8>You well my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I have a great day, you too. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you guys. Thank you With Fred, I won't take a

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<v Speaker 2>break real quick and come back. If you're an Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly

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<v Speaker 2>forty years.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Waiting streaming live on the Ihearts Radio AB. This is

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<v Speaker 1>I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to tying the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Dave Silver, You're Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>We got about twelve minutes ish. You just want to

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<v Speaker 2>call please do five two zero four, one, six, seventy

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<v Speaker 2>four to forty.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you have in tonight's game? What do you think? YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess liv put out a little pole there Coastal

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina or the LSU.

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<v Speaker 4>Or an asteroid.

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<v Speaker 5>We're an astroid. We're an asteroid in both of them,

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<v Speaker 5>the asteroids. So she said that's not so.

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<v Speaker 2>After watching the game and LSU winning, and I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>how in the hell did this happened? But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>things happen in weird ways, I asked Lev, and I

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<v Speaker 2>have to go to the textass and what.

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<v Speaker 5>Makes him a good coach? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>It was because you know what he's doing doesn't just

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<v Speaker 2>happen by accident. You said, money. But even if you

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<v Speaker 2>have good teams, look at the teams that didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>Make it too right? Have money? Well, I think that

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<v Speaker 5>was a big story.

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<v Speaker 6>Kind of the storyline when he left here was that

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<v Speaker 6>he was going to get so much more more to himself.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, it's like, how do you you know, how do

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<v Speaker 5>you combat that? And LSU has a good program? Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and they always have.

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<v Speaker 2>So he responded to be I won't say what he

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<v Speaker 2>said because he was joking, of course, but he's an

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<v Speaker 2>intense dude, extremely thorough and passionate and a great motivator

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, you have good players and not always

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<v Speaker 2>good players play well forever, and and he and he

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<v Speaker 2>gets them to play hard apparently, and he's probably very

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<v Speaker 2>intense and and that was part of his first part.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's just kind of like an intense dude that

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<v Speaker 2>they play hard for.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>It was kind of interesting when we're talking to Ryan

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<v Speaker 6>Radkey earlier. He was he made some comment that we

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<v Speaker 6>didn't really jump back on about how he was saying

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<v Speaker 6>how some of the college baseball teams that he's been

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<v Speaker 6>watching don't play the game the right way.

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<v Speaker 5>That wasn't quite sure what he meant.

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<v Speaker 6>By that necessarily, other than yeah, we've see the errors

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<v Speaker 6>and we see things happening. Yeah, maybe you don't see

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<v Speaker 6>in you know, higher level baseball. Yeah, but no, that's

847
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<v Speaker 6>a good that's a good point. I heard that too.

848
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:11.480
<v Speaker 2>The other thing that I thought was very interesting and

849
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:14.639
<v Speaker 2>very accurate was the teams aren't winning, they're losing.

850
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:19.519
<v Speaker 5>They're losing. Yeah, yeah again. And then we talked about

851
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:19.920
<v Speaker 5>this too.

852
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.480
<v Speaker 2>They lost their way into or the other team lost

853
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:24.719
<v Speaker 2>their way into Arizona.

854
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:25.719
<v Speaker 5>Get into the term.

855
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, making pitching decisions, whether it's that

856
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:34.320
<v Speaker 6>or just you know, just strange moves defensively or or

857
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:35.119
<v Speaker 6>not making a move.

858
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 5>I mean, those are.

859
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:38.440
<v Speaker 6>Things that coaches have to do, and I guess maybe whatever,

860
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:41.760
<v Speaker 6>maybe if they just aren't being done the same way

861
00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:42.679
<v Speaker 6>professional coaches.

862
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:45.480
<v Speaker 5>Because you and I covered him and we can go

863
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:45.800
<v Speaker 5>through this.

864
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:49.039
<v Speaker 2>I asked him about Johnson, But let me ask you

865
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.719
<v Speaker 2>about lut When I asked you about lu what do

866
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 2>you think his secret sauce boy?

867
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:56.840
<v Speaker 6>I mean, he did know how to make the right

868
00:42:56.880 --> 00:42:58.960
<v Speaker 6>moves and get the right players. I used to always

869
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.440
<v Speaker 6>hear these stories. He probably kind of reported it that

870
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:03.679
<v Speaker 6>way as well as that, like when Luton needed somebody,

871
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.199
<v Speaker 6>he got that person. Like when he needed to fill

872
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.679
<v Speaker 6>a hole on those rosters, Hey, I need a six

873
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 6>seven big guy who can get some rebounds, doesn't have

874
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:12.519
<v Speaker 6>to be a big score.

875
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.639
<v Speaker 5>And he would go get Michael or somebody. Yeah, he

876
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:18.079
<v Speaker 5>took a Davidson. Yeah, he just kept sticking these guys

877
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:19.880
<v Speaker 5>in and was yeah, perfect.

878
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:24.440
<v Speaker 2>And he was one of those guys that fundamentals it

879
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:26.920
<v Speaker 2>was the John Wooden. John wouldn't get him better as

880
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:30.400
<v Speaker 2>basketball players get him to play the game correctly. So yeah,

881
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.199
<v Speaker 2>what'd you say? Well, how did you describe him? Just

882
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:33.320
<v Speaker 2>the guy who found the right.

883
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:36.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, he basically found the right

884
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:37.719
<v Speaker 6>guys in those positions and just.

885
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:40.400
<v Speaker 5>Guys played hard for him. Guys played hard for him.

886
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:42.239
<v Speaker 2>There are times when they probably got tired of him,

887
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:44.159
<v Speaker 2>but they also played hard for him.

888
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:48.519
<v Speaker 6>His connections to Wooden you probably know even better than

889
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:51.039
<v Speaker 6>we ever got to see. But there was obviously you know,

890
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:54.079
<v Speaker 6>he he idolized him. You know, he used his coaching,

891
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:58.920
<v Speaker 6>His practice routine was I think copied from Wooden.

892
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:01.320
<v Speaker 5>And remember there was a couple of times where Wooden

893
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:02.159
<v Speaker 5>actually came doun.

894
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:05.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they tried to shield him from everybody when they

895
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:07.639
<v Speaker 2>came down. I know, I don't did you get a

896
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:09.760
<v Speaker 2>chance to no, No, But he came up the ramp

897
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:11.639
<v Speaker 2>in the car and blah blah blah, just trying to

898
00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:14.320
<v Speaker 2>make everything that was one of his later later in

899
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.280
<v Speaker 2>life things, right before he passed.

900
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:18.079
<v Speaker 5>I mean, that was it was amazing, you know, I

901
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 5>mean it's a legend. Yeah.

902
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:23.679
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because when they first when they won the

903
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:25.880
<v Speaker 2>title ninety seven and I did my first book, and

904
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 2>part of it I says, I got to get ahold

905
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:28.119
<v Speaker 2>of John Wooden.

906
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:29.760
<v Speaker 5>How am I gonna do this? And I did? And

907
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:30.760
<v Speaker 5>he called me back.

908
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:33.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, I get people who don't call me back

909
00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:35.599
<v Speaker 2>in this town, and Judd would everyone. So when people

910
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:37.400
<v Speaker 2>don't call me back, what the hell I even got?

911
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Judd wouldn't to come me back, and you don't call

912
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:41.440
<v Speaker 2>me back? How does that work? Good example?

913
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.199
<v Speaker 6>I mean yeah, I mean he was obviously who he

914
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:47.000
<v Speaker 6>is the Wizard of Westwood or whatnot. But then you know,

915
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 6>then to have Walt Bill Walton come a few years later,

916
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:52.559
<v Speaker 6>and you know, he would talk about him and he

917
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:55.360
<v Speaker 6>you know, he talked about Luke and Luke. I mean

918
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:58.320
<v Speaker 6>it was just an interesting, you know, dynamic damn all

919
00:44:58.320 --> 00:44:59.079
<v Speaker 6>those guys together.

920
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so what about Dick Telly? What was his secret sauce?

921
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:10.760
<v Speaker 6>I think he had the players respect and they really

922
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:13.559
<v Speaker 6>enjoyed playing for him. That's kind of how I picked

923
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:15.639
<v Speaker 6>on as a as a media member. You could tell

924
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.480
<v Speaker 6>them the players just talked about him like, you know,

925
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.920
<v Speaker 6>they were here in college. He was like their their

926
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.519
<v Speaker 6>dad in a way, you know, he was he cared

927
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:28.079
<v Speaker 6>about them. And later again later in life, you saw

928
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:30.440
<v Speaker 6>these guys come back and they just tell stories about

929
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:32.960
<v Speaker 6>how he was such a good leader and then they

930
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:34.280
<v Speaker 6>really appreciated that.

931
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:36.000
<v Speaker 5>Right right, And we talked to Rich about him a

932
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:36.719
<v Speaker 5>couple of days ago.

933
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:38.599
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean x'es and o's. I don't know, you know,

934
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:41.800
<v Speaker 6>we don't know. Defense if you look at the statistics,

935
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.880
<v Speaker 6>was unbelievable and good assistance that those guys were great. Yeah,

936
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:48.159
<v Speaker 6>and you know, even you know Larry Smith had some

937
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:51.519
<v Speaker 6>great assistance before him. There were some good those guys

938
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:54.039
<v Speaker 6>kind of and they were as much a part of

939
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:55.199
<v Speaker 6>the story as the head coaches.

940
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:57.159
<v Speaker 2>A whatt about Larry because I didn't cover Larry.

941
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:00.280
<v Speaker 6>Hard nosed came out of the beautcham Beckler fan family

942
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:01.920
<v Speaker 6>and Michigan, so.

943
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:02.480
<v Speaker 4>It has that.

944
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:05.079
<v Speaker 5>So they they played hard for what was this?

945
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:06.920
<v Speaker 6>They played hard for him, and they were they were

946
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:10.079
<v Speaker 6>like not sure like Finesse. Maybe maybe I'm wrong, but

947
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:12.760
<v Speaker 6>you know they were they were were tough. That's the

948
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 6>proverbial lunch pale dudes. You know, the the god the

949
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:20.719
<v Speaker 6>Rickey Huntley is the gimme.

950
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:24.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, didn't mess around. I mean, you know it was

951
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:25.159
<v Speaker 5>it was.

952
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:28.159
<v Speaker 6>It was a different style of football anyway. It wasn't

953
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.440
<v Speaker 6>as wide open as as we as we're used to now.

954
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.679
<v Speaker 6>But you know they had the perfect defense. I mean,

955
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:35.760
<v Speaker 6>those Hunley brothers when they came in, and there were

956
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:37.199
<v Speaker 6>some others that came from.

957
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:38.920
<v Speaker 5>The coach.

958
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:41.000
<v Speaker 2>He coached football, he coached itself and then he went

959
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:45.199
<v Speaker 2>to uh the Tankerverdy Jobbs, those type just dudes.

960
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, look at that. Look for Jay Jobbins wound up,

961
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:50.280
<v Speaker 6>you know, becoming you know, great guy, super tough, just

962
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.480
<v Speaker 6>tough dudes. Yeah, and they had a lot of guys

963
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:52.719
<v Speaker 6>like that.

964
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:53.159
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure.

965
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:55.159
<v Speaker 6>I'm sure they've got some really good stories that happened

966
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:55.760
<v Speaker 6>behind the scenes.

967
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.559
<v Speaker 2>I have I have my show with the pregame show

968
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:01.880
<v Speaker 2>with the Oja and uh who else.

969
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 5>Well, the Phoenix God. How could irons?

970
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:08.039
<v Speaker 6>Those dudes are just tough dudes. You know, I think

971
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:10.760
<v Speaker 6>that's a book for you too. Yeah, I should do

972
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.000
<v Speaker 6>something about those guys. The good old days of that

973
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.639
<v Speaker 6>eighties era of football, especially when they were on probation

974
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:18.159
<v Speaker 6>and they kind of had a chip on their shoulder,

975
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:20.519
<v Speaker 6>you know, and they're still sending guys in the NFL.

976
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:23.719
<v Speaker 6>Wricky gets picked in the first you know, number seven

977
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:24.119
<v Speaker 6>or whatever.

978
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 5>He was from rags to riches.

979
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:27.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there were some. There were some tough guys and

980
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:29.599
<v Speaker 6>a lot of them very successful.

981
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:37.920
<v Speaker 2>What about what about coach Kendall kind of lush and

982
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:39.280
<v Speaker 2>they played hard because they respect that.

983
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:40.480
<v Speaker 5>A lot of them, you know, they came from that

984
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:41.239
<v Speaker 5>generation too.

985
00:47:41.400 --> 00:47:44.880
<v Speaker 6>He was a college star in Minnesota, plays in the Pro.

986
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:46.880
<v Speaker 6>So he had he had some bat he had some

987
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:50.480
<v Speaker 6>things he could talk about the real I don't know

988
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.440
<v Speaker 6>what's the word history that he could say, you know what,

989
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:54.199
<v Speaker 6>I did play in the major leagues. Yeah, you know,

990
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:57.719
<v Speaker 6>I kind of know how to get there. That's why

991
00:47:57.719 --> 00:47:59.599
<v Speaker 6>we're talking last week. A lot of the comparisons were

992
00:47:59.599 --> 00:47:59.920
<v Speaker 6>the same.

993
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:00.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

994
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:02.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I played in the majors. I was an All

995
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 6>American Minnesota. Yeah, and I think the players respected that.

996
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.039
<v Speaker 6>You know, he was a legitimate coach.

997
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:08.400
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

998
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.119
<v Speaker 2>I know, you don't cover him now. And Sean, I

999
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:14.239
<v Speaker 2>don't even know how to describe how Sean did it.

1000
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:17.800
<v Speaker 2>But Tommy, Yeah, you from Afar, from Afar, what do

1001
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:20.480
<v Speaker 2>you think or you wouldn't know because you're not.

1002
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:26.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he just comes off as being uh, he's not

1003
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:28.519
<v Speaker 6>going to fly off the handle. He's pretty right.

1004
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the anti Sean Sean. Yeah, no, that's part

1005
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:34.199
<v Speaker 2>of it. But I think that they like his style.

1006
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:36.679
<v Speaker 2>They like his style on and off the court because

1007
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:37.920
<v Speaker 2>he's just another dude.

1008
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:38.760
<v Speaker 5>He's a dude.

1009
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:41.960
<v Speaker 2>And I just did a story on him for for

1010
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:44.280
<v Speaker 2>for BIS Tucson for his Father of the Year thing

1011
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:46.360
<v Speaker 2>and I even said to this question, it says, uh

1012
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:49.000
<v Speaker 2>to me, Tommy, just from the sideline that you come

1013
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.360
<v Speaker 2>off as a guy as a parent, as a parent

1014
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:54.760
<v Speaker 2>is you're not You're not demanding on your kids, uh,

1015
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.039
<v Speaker 2>and they love you for it. You give them a

1016
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:00.280
<v Speaker 2>free reign, but if they screwed up, you'd be on them.

1017
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:02.519
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's how his style he kind of

1018
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:04.639
<v Speaker 2>agreed with. That's how his style with his kid, with

1019
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.599
<v Speaker 2>the players, I'm gonna give you the ball. You guys

1020
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:11.679
<v Speaker 2>are gonna practice these free, free wheeling plays, blah blah blah,

1021
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:13.400
<v Speaker 2>have fun, but don't screw it.

1022
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:16.239
<v Speaker 5>Up when you can. You can tell that's his personality.

1023
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:18.360
<v Speaker 5>That's you know exactly it we see it exactly.

1024
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:20.119
<v Speaker 6>I don't know him like you know him, so i'm

1025
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:22.320
<v Speaker 6>you know, we see it that way, and we don't

1026
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:23.000
<v Speaker 6>we don't panic.

1027
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:25.320
<v Speaker 5>You know, he looks like he's under control.

1028
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:25.760
<v Speaker 4>Sure.

1029
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:28.199
<v Speaker 6>There was a good piece I think Bruce wrote about

1030
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:30.599
<v Speaker 6>it in the Star today about the fam. All the

1031
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:33.400
<v Speaker 6>whole family's going off to Europe for this basketball thing

1032
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:34.800
<v Speaker 6>that he's I mean, the grand kid's going.

1033
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:37.519
<v Speaker 5>Little baby's got them on the plane. But that's where

1034
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:37.760
<v Speaker 5>they are.

1035
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:39.480
<v Speaker 2>To me, that was part of that story where they

1036
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:43.079
<v Speaker 2>grew up traveling the world and and and now they

1037
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:45.599
<v Speaker 2>enjoy because their their parents did this for them.

1038
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:49.440
<v Speaker 5>You got to go just about okay, thanks you Dave.

1039
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, Dave, you're not in tomorrow, right, but I think

1040
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.679
<v Speaker 2>I might have Jay, If not Jay, somebody else. Right.

1041
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:57.599
<v Speaker 2>You're in tomorrow, Okay, Cool, you might have an NBA

1042
00:49:57.719 --> 00:49:58.599
<v Speaker 2>champion tomorrow.

1043
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:00.360
<v Speaker 5>We might Okay, Thanks buddy,
