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Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, your Dave Silver.
Speaker 2: Now we have Ray with breaking news.
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Speaker 3: Right, starting off with kind of what we ended that
Speaker 3: last hour with talking about the Pacers in the Thunder
Speaker 3: game six night. Obviously Thunder in the lead. Steve's sobing
Speaker 3: for forty bucks back from what's his name, Chris.
Speaker 2: Chris back no more? Oh yeah, right, he's gonna streak
Speaker 2: of losing to me. You're I'm gonna adopt the kai.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna adopt him pretty soon.
Speaker 3: Dave so graciously told me that Halliburtons is expected to
Speaker 3: be to play this tonight.
Speaker 4: Yep, So that that should make it more interesting.
Speaker 5: It should. We'll see how healthy is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean you never know the Thunder, I mean,
Speaker 3: like we were talking about in game two even then
Speaker 3: it was like he played obviously that Thundersilt kind of
Speaker 3: rocked them that game. Yeah, it's gonna be a fun one.
Speaker 3: Diamondbacks played earlier today Toronto. Yeah, beat Toronto nine to five,
Speaker 3: one game under five hundred right now, so that, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe they'll get something started.
Speaker 5: Or maybe not or maybe not that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really expect it, but you gotta you gotta
Speaker 3: try to be optimistic for everybody, and it sis.
Speaker 6: They're just such a difficult team to root for. How
Speaker 6: many seventh and eighth inning blow ups by the bullpen
Speaker 6: this season?
Speaker 5: It happened again the other day.
Speaker 6: It's nice to see they got a big lead but
Speaker 6: then they almost blew it again. Today they were up
Speaker 6: nine to one and they win nine to five, So
Speaker 6: good for them. I guess trade deadline's coming. A lot
Speaker 6: of players could be moving.
Speaker 4: Do you think they're buying or selling?
Speaker 3: I think they're selling. I think that's fair. He made
Speaker 3: Doka the Houston Rockets head coach. You know, it doesn't
Speaker 3: give a number, but it was reported that he signed
Speaker 3: to a long term contract, and.
Speaker 5: He must be pretty good at what he does.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean he took the Celtics to the finals Warriors,
Speaker 3: and I think that was his first year there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then he got that scandal, right, scandal, whatever the scandal.
Speaker 3: Was, and then you know, obviously doing what he did.
Speaker 3: I think it's his second year in Houston.
Speaker 2: Against the for a team that was not very good
Speaker 2: the year before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, got him to the two seed
Speaker 3: at the Warriors on the Ropes. It was Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean I would imagine that he's a he's a pretty
Speaker 3: good coach. Steve Kurtz's son, Nicholas is going to join
Speaker 3: the Warriors coaching staff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, Yeah, I was surprised.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that he was the coach of the
Speaker 2: Santa Cruz the Gli Yeah. Yeah, so someone else moved
Speaker 2: into that spot of the gig and he moved up.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that he was coaching like his dad.
Speaker 2: And it would seem that if I guess that when
Speaker 2: Steve eventually wants to leave, that maybe his son could
Speaker 2: take I would assume. I mean, I was, I don't
Speaker 2: know anything. I don't, but you know, he's moving up.
Speaker 2: And just remember thirty. Remember when these kids are just kids.
Speaker 2: My son's thirty. Your sons are in the thirties, right, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: we're getting old. I'm aging well.
Speaker 5: Though, Well, we could have a you know, the.
Speaker 6: Dave didn't hear me. My ears are going back. Go ahead,
Speaker 6: the Alalman kid. Yeah, that's Rick Allelman's son right as
Speaker 6: the coach of Denver. So there's that whole generational thing
Speaker 6: going here.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 4: No, and there was I think the Jaguars GM.
Speaker 3: I think he's like I think I'm pretty sure he's
Speaker 3: under thirty the gall Yeah.
Speaker 5: Football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because we knew Josh right when Josh
Speaker 2: was Josh, and he was like thirty three when he
Speaker 2: started taking over, like Kentucky and in that group always
Speaker 2: forty five ish forty whatever it is.
Speaker 5: But Nick and Nick is thirty two.
Speaker 6: He's been coaching at Santa Cruz since twenty twenty three,
Speaker 6: so just a couple of years he was, you know,
Speaker 6: like the video coordinator. He kind of did all this
Speaker 6: kind of jobs, going to break it into the business.
Speaker 6: So good for him. You know, he's got a good
Speaker 6: good mentor.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the one thing that that's what Steve has.
Speaker 2: What's when when people talk about Steve Carrer, what's the
Speaker 2: first thing that pops into your mind?
Speaker 5: Go ahead, tell me no, no, no, don't mind, uh class class, No,
Speaker 5: it's a good one.
Speaker 2: Let's good leadership. I'm thinking just affable. He knows people, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, he knows how to handle people. And he's
Speaker 2: in the people business. Oh we all are in the
Speaker 2: people business. Yeah, but he's great at it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, and just the way he handles himself.
Speaker 6: You know, he doesn't throw guys under the bus, self funny,
Speaker 6: self effacing, you know, if there's a problem, you don't
Speaker 6: really know.
Speaker 5: He's just he's as good at.
Speaker 6: It, and he's you know, he's managed some of the
Speaker 6: biggest stars of our time. When you think about the
Speaker 6: Curries and the Durance and Draymond and people like that.
Speaker 2: Well that said, and this is when I brought up
Speaker 2: your have you ever been have you ever.
Speaker 5: Dated a hot shake?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 5: That's kind of when it started.
Speaker 2: Is people say, oh, he wins, he wins because he
Speaker 2: has all these people. You know how difficult it would
Speaker 2: be to manage those egos. It ain't easy, and I
Speaker 2: use ain't just because, but it ain't easy because you
Speaker 2: got dudes who want this and want that and want
Speaker 2: keep them happy.
Speaker 5: Try it.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, the fact that they even gave up
Speaker 6: Durant if you think about it, really, and he's gonna
Speaker 6: gonna be one of the top what ten players of
Speaker 6: all time, you know, and he just you know, the
Speaker 6: chemistry was wrong, and so they just said go elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Is it it's wrong wherever he goes. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: that's kind of like, uh, what's it Rogers, I mean,
Speaker 2: there's it's not a coincidence.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean it's it's it's tough call for.
Speaker 3: Durant too, because like, obviously, you know, they make it
Speaker 3: to the finals when he's on the Thunder and then
Speaker 3: you know that gets blown up and he goes to
Speaker 3: the Warriors obviously, and then he goes to the Nets
Speaker 3: and their toe away from beating the Bucks and going
Speaker 3: to the finals there, and then you know, Kyrie was
Speaker 3: doing his old kind of thing, and then after that
Speaker 3: he ends up in in Phoenix, and it's kind of
Speaker 3: like like if anything, I just I really think it's
Speaker 3: just Phoenix that didn't fit well with because it's like,
Speaker 3: I mean, he almost made it, but I mean there
Speaker 3: was external problems with like with Brooklyn and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it just feels.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, well, okay didn't work out with uh with
Speaker 3: Booker speaking to Kevin Duranto, I was actually about to
Speaker 3: bring this up, reported that the three teams he would
Speaker 3: like to go to would be about Kevin Durant.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, because you're talking about Booker.
Speaker 3: Yea, but yeah, the Heat, the Spurs, and the Rockets.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, he'd be, he'd be. I'm not proven enough
Speaker 2: to know those teams. But Rockets that we just talked about,
Speaker 2: I think it's do you want them on your team?
Speaker 5: I don't know, I guess, you know.
Speaker 6: And then we've got the draft coming, so, I mean,
Speaker 6: these teams are gonna around a little bit, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, it's gonna be weird the next month.
Speaker 5: You know, the drafts, what next week, next week, next
Speaker 5: week is so.
Speaker 6: Things are gonna be, you know, switched around their rosters,
Speaker 6: and you know, there's so much movement. I don't know
Speaker 6: who knows how these teams are going to look in
Speaker 6: October when they go to training care.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be a tough call. Oh. I mean
Speaker 4: kind of talked about this one as well.
Speaker 3: With the new team that we're going to have and.
Speaker 4: Dodgers.
Speaker 3: Uh, they asked the immigration agents to leave the stadium
Speaker 3: parking lot, and.
Speaker 4: I think they're outside of.
Speaker 3: The gates, like they just like parked outside of the gates,
Speaker 3: because it's.
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, there's like gates to get into the parking
Speaker 6: they're closed, so people are not getting in, and neither
Speaker 6: is ice.
Speaker 2: Okay, so so where would they go? Where would they
Speaker 2: go to get in the games?
Speaker 5: I couldn't go.
Speaker 6: Their gates are going to eventually open. I'm sure, you know,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna guess. I don't know if there's gonna be.
Speaker 5: We live in a weird time.
Speaker 4: Maybe like a shuttle or something.
Speaker 6: You know, we can laugh about it, but no, I know,
Speaker 6: And these fans are like, you know, do they even
Speaker 6: want to go to the games?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 5: I hear you day we talked about that here. I mean,
Speaker 5: would you want to? It's crazy? It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a wild time. There's not a
Speaker 3: lot going on today, but the Shador Sanders.
Speaker 5: This is a bizarre He's having some problems.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got caught for speeding twice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in one month, in a couple of weeks probably, yeah,
Speaker 5: this it was a couple of days ago. He was
Speaker 5: one hundred and one in.
Speaker 4: Sixty one or sixty uh that was yeah, yeah, and then.
Speaker 5: Two weeks ago he did the other one.
Speaker 2: Don't you this is coming from a guy who partly
Speaker 2: did stuff in Colorado that was show. He's the rug
Speaker 2: because if he's doing here in a privileged type of situation.
Speaker 5: Where the attentions, the newspapers are going to there to.
Speaker 2: Report this stuff, right or the college isn't going to
Speaker 2: cover wink we we've seen this stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, didn't he have a Bentley ter hit some greasy
Speaker 6: car and he.
Speaker 5: Was driving the truck?
Speaker 6: Now they still do a reality show like on YouTube
Speaker 6: the Brothers.
Speaker 5: Is that even going to continue? Well? Up now? Right?
Speaker 4: Because he's you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what would you think? What would you think? I mean,
Speaker 5: what what are you thinking? And he's not such thin
Speaker 5: ice anyway? Right, third or fourth string quarterback?
Speaker 6: You know I was watching, I mean I just was
Speaker 6: joking with some friends just the other day, you know,
Speaker 6: seeing him, you know and training whatever this is the
Speaker 6: o t A is and he's gonna be the starting quarterback.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's getting all the attention. And he messes
Speaker 6: up doing something like this. You know that maybe he
Speaker 6: won't be but he's called golden opportunity.
Speaker 3: You know, the Browns they got some quarterbacks with so
Speaker 3: you know he could you maybe get off.
Speaker 2: So tell me the situation because I don't follow them.
Speaker 2: What's up with what with Watson? He retwards a c O.
Speaker 2: So he's out for the year for sure, because I'm
Speaker 2: only talking about.
Speaker 3: Most like yeah, because he well they were I don't know.
Speaker 3: I remember like it was like a rumor, but like
Speaker 3: nothing ever came of it. There was a there was
Speaker 3: a video I guess he was supposed to have like
Speaker 3: the boot on, you know what I mean, just so
Speaker 3: like not to reaggravate it. And there was like a
Speaker 3: TikTok like a video that he did from posted that
Speaker 3: he had he didn't have it on, so and then
Speaker 3: like shortly after that.
Speaker 2: Is when he was Shortly after that he got rid of.
Speaker 5: The next.
Speaker 4: H No, I think shortly after that he reaggravated. I
Speaker 4: think it was a c.
Speaker 2: L Okay, so he's not he's not back, so it
Speaker 2: doesn't have the new They have a slew of quarterbacks
Speaker 2: Dylan and from Oregon and the man. I don't get
Speaker 2: why people hate on Gabriel so much. I thought pretty good, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I always thought he was our.
Speaker 4: I mean, played at Oklahoma, played at Oregon.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know what, a lot of games.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe a little bit too much of a gun slinger.
Speaker 3: But you know, that's just how college football is nowadays,
Speaker 3: I think, or it feels.
Speaker 4: That way at least. That's yeah, it's mostly it.
Speaker 5: Give you a little one more thing here.
Speaker 6: I was watching it on TV was the golf because
Speaker 6: this is, you know, the week after the US Yeah,
Speaker 6: so they're they're in Connecticut this week, which is a
Speaker 6: really fun tournament.
Speaker 5: It's huge attendance.
Speaker 6: It's one of the like this in Phoenix, I think,
Speaker 6: are the two most healthy attended events. So Scottie Scheffler
Speaker 6: went out today and shot like eight under after not
Speaker 6: playing all that well at the US Open last week,
Speaker 6: So he's tied for first. If you were watching the
Speaker 6: US Open last week, they were having trouble even breaking par.
Speaker 6: But this course is going to be a little bit easier.
Speaker 6: So two guys were at eight under, Austin eck Wrote
Speaker 6: and then JJ Spond, who was a big hero last
Speaker 6: week with that big long putt to win it.
Speaker 5: He's kind of struggled today like plus three.
Speaker 2: Well he'll we won't know from him for another three
Speaker 2: years because that's kind of the cycle for him, right right.
Speaker 2: He lost his card, came back, so when they go
Speaker 2: to a rena. One of the celebrities playing in a rena. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's in Tahoe. It's a it's I think it's
Speaker 2: in July, like mid July. That's that's step Steph Curry.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And they play at that course right around Lake Tahoe. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 5: I've never been there.
Speaker 4: I always wanting to go to Lake Tahoe.
Speaker 5: Really road trip.
Speaker 2: Let's go go in the Yeah, was that was there?
Speaker 5: Was there last summer? It was cool, It's beautiful.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, like you get so many different like because
Speaker 3: there's people that go like during the summer, and then
Speaker 3: there's people that go during the winter, and it's a
Speaker 3: very different stories.
Speaker 5: Going somewhere I don't like cold. It's one of the
Speaker 5: great ski areas in the country. Yeah, and then I'll
Speaker 5: see you at the Old Lodge, Don't break leg, Heavenly Valley,
Speaker 5: Squad Valley. Yeah, I mean, just drink my old wait
Speaker 5: for you to come down the hills.
Speaker 2: Then not you David be a tall blonde.
Speaker 3: That's that's how it was in Minneapolis one time. Man,
Speaker 3: it was ten degrees.
Speaker 2: Oh well, well you were the final four two than one.
Speaker 2: It was cold in it was cold. It was cold.
Speaker 2: You know, it was really cold.
Speaker 6: I can't remember which was worse, was that or Chicago
Speaker 6: actually in two thousand and five was very cold, Oh Rosemont, Yeah,
Speaker 6: because we were doing the game or the outside.
Speaker 5: The figure about the games.
Speaker 6: I'm just remember myself with order of freezing my you
Speaker 6: know what, it was cool. We would sit in our
Speaker 6: truck and we could listen to the news and we'd
Speaker 6: give ourselves like twenty seconds to get outside and get
Speaker 6: set up and then run back in because it was
Speaker 6: really cold and you couldn't talk.
Speaker 5: I don't remember that a.
Speaker 6: Hard enough time talking in here, right, and it's cold.
Speaker 6: It's cold in here.
Speaker 2: Okay, with that, we'll go and come back and we'll
Speaker 2: get ahold of Fred Harvey Farmer U of a track coach.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Why the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in today Dave Silver
Speaker 2: on the phone. We have coach Fred Harvey of the
Speaker 2: track team. Does it even sound right anymore? You're retired?
Speaker 8: No, it definitely sounds right. So it doesn't go away
Speaker 8: that quickly. And as a matter of fact, he's not
Speaker 8: gonna go away for a lifetime.
Speaker 5: That's true. What's is the coach emeritus? What's that? What's
Speaker 5: that going to be like for you?
Speaker 8: Well, you know, uh, you know, we're actually working through
Speaker 8: that literally as we you know, as we speak, you know, tomorrow,
Speaker 8: hopefully you know, the new director will have in place,
Speaker 8: you know, his his choices for his staff. Uh, some
Speaker 8: that he's definitely going to retain from this present staff
Speaker 8: and uh and there may be a few that you
Speaker 8: know that he that he hires in from outside.
Speaker 5: So Fred, we had you on the show. I had
Speaker 5: you on the show.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe aprilish or late May, maybe May.
Speaker 2: You were by the book and I'm thinking, that's not
Speaker 2: the thread. I know, that's not a friend.
Speaker 5: I know. And then and then.
Speaker 2: You maybe three days four days later, It's announced that
Speaker 2: you're going to be retiring, and I'm thinking, yeah, so,
Speaker 2: how why did you know this was gonna happen?
Speaker 8: Well, you know, I mean honestly, we when I I
Speaker 8: think about back even in September, you know, when uh,
Speaker 8: when we got started with ball training and I had
Speaker 8: my my first a actual you know, head coaches meeting,
Speaker 8: you know, you know with you know, with Desri and
Speaker 8: just talking about you know, you know, my future plans
Speaker 8: and you know, and what I wanted to you know,
Speaker 8: uh do within the program and and more importantly, what
Speaker 8: I want to do with in our community. You know,
Speaker 8: you know, I had a plan then. And as we
Speaker 8: got closer and into the outdoor the indoor outdoor season,
Speaker 8: you know, uh, some things became very very you know
Speaker 8: apparent to me with you know, what my dreams and
Speaker 8: ambitions are. I mean, I love, you know, the University
Speaker 8: of Arizona. You know, Tucson, the southern Arizona community, and
Speaker 8: and I felt that this was a really good time
Speaker 8: for me to one if I'm able to continue to
Speaker 8: have you know, involvement with the UH with athletic uh
Speaker 8: you know department, and that's that's even that's even better
Speaker 8: with the track and field program, that's even you know,
Speaker 8: you know, even better. But I can start, you know,
Speaker 8: do more things which I have always dripped about, you know,
Speaker 8: within the community, you know, with our with our youth programs,
Speaker 8: and you know, that's and that's one of our blueprint
Speaker 8: you know models is you know, is engaging the community.
Speaker 8: And I feel so strongly there's things that I can
Speaker 8: do within the community to really help, you know, really
Speaker 8: uh exploit that, you know at the highest level.
Speaker 5: Maybe talk more about that. What what what are your
Speaker 5: plans for the community.
Speaker 6: Where are we going to see you you know, maybe
Speaker 6: away from the track or in the classrooms or what
Speaker 6: are we talking about here?
Speaker 8: Well, one of the things, one of the things, uh,
Speaker 8: you know, and we've had for a lot of years,
Speaker 8: uh you know, is our is our too Sonvely Athletic
Speaker 8: Club and you know, and my wife and I we
Speaker 8: run that run that club. Really she does more of
Speaker 8: the running of the club. And I've been com now
Speaker 8: I'll be a little bit more involved, you know, you know,
Speaker 8: in the day to day you know process of it.
Speaker 8: But she's really the person that to behind that club.
Speaker 8: And it's the largest club in you know, you know,
Speaker 8: in southern Arizona. We we touch you know, uh, every
Speaker 8: community you know that's within a fifty mile radius, and
Speaker 8: uh we have. But my dream has always been when
Speaker 8: I first came to Arizona and having a European style
Speaker 8: professional athletic club, track and field club where we uh
Speaker 8: were able to educate coaches, were able to develop young
Speaker 8: athletes at the ages of seven, you know, to ten,
Speaker 8: but really developing them properly, uh, in terms of preparing
Speaker 8: their bodies for you know, uh you know, you know,
Speaker 8: you know for uh you know, for activity. Uh. And
Speaker 8: then you have a youth uh you know program that
Speaker 8: will you know, that would run agency eleven eleven to fourteen,
Speaker 8: and then after that you have your high school and
Speaker 8: then and then you're in lead athletes from there, but
Speaker 8: bringing them all up through the same system, building that
Speaker 8: real sense of community because you know, track and fields,
Speaker 8: you know, not just still in in Arizona and southern Arizona.
Speaker 8: But in the United States, it's the largest participant sport.
Speaker 8: You know that there is, and I feel strongly that
Speaker 8: you know, there's things that we can do within our
Speaker 8: community to really not just drive that, but you'll make
Speaker 8: it an economic factor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you you showed up.
Speaker 2: I choked about this last time you and I came
Speaker 2: about the same time, maybe eighty seven eighty eight. You
Speaker 2: were the longest tenured coach now left. Uh, as you
Speaker 2: look back, or when you have a chance to look back,
Speaker 2: what are some of the fondest memories you'll have because
Speaker 2: you had a new party. Off the top of the head, no,
Speaker 2: how many all Americans? How many champions? All that stuff?
Speaker 8: You know? Well, you know it's someone I read that
Speaker 8: somewhere honest, that truth. I mean, I I don't know
Speaker 8: how many, but just some of the uh, it's I
Speaker 8: think it's definitely well over one hundred and fifty. You know,
Speaker 8: you know all Americans, you know, national champions and those things.
Speaker 8: But the relationships you know that you have when we
Speaker 8: have you know, thousands of athletes that literally to to
Speaker 8: this moment, the head coach for example at at USC
Speaker 8: you know who's Quincy Wats the head coach you know
Speaker 8: at Georgia. They both just won national titles and you know,
Speaker 8: and I've known them since they were babies and I
Speaker 8: recruited them. And one of the things that when you
Speaker 8: were you know, when you have this retirement party, if
Speaker 8: we don't have an invite, we're going to take that
Speaker 8: very personally, you know, but to be able to build
Speaker 8: those relationships like that. But within our own community here,
Speaker 8: you know, the you know, the the Michael Bates of
Speaker 8: the world, you know, Georgia Moline, who's you know an
Speaker 8: the Arizona athlete who support that the Olympic Games. You
Speaker 8: know Michelle you know uh sco Michelle Johnson. At the time,
Speaker 8: you know, we're you know, all developmental if you will athletes,
Speaker 8: if you will that you know made it to the
Speaker 8: world you know, you know, to the world stages, and
Speaker 8: you know, you can't leave out like a person like
Speaker 8: a Brianna Glenn who you know, you know, start gonna
Speaker 8: she was a top ten team all by herself, you know,
Speaker 8: at the NCAA Championship. But I think the the fondest
Speaker 8: you know memories you know that I have when when
Speaker 8: I look at you know, the you know, the families
Speaker 8: that have been built, you know, with the athlete that
Speaker 8: I've had an opportunity, you know, to have relationships with.
Speaker 8: And that's you know, that's the that's the biggest thing
Speaker 8: for me is that, you know, I always preach this,
Speaker 8: I'm not a god. You know, I can't make you
Speaker 8: the Olympic champion if you don't have the ability. But
Speaker 8: if you're willing to follow up plan and you believe
Speaker 8: in that plan, then I can help you have an
Speaker 8: opportunity at that And and I think the latest you know,
Speaker 8: you know example of that, you know, Zach Eckstein, who
Speaker 8: uh you know was second at the this year's indoor
Speaker 8: Nationals in the outdoor Championships and you know ran one
Speaker 8: of the top ten times, number nine times in the world.
Speaker 8: I mean he was a walk on hurdler from you know, uh,
Speaker 8: you know, from Chandler, Arizona. I have to give his
Speaker 8: school due respect with the Perry High School. I keep
Speaker 8: I keep saying that he went to Desert Vesta, but
Speaker 8: that's where his coach was at. So I mean those
Speaker 8: I mean, just that opportunity and just you know, wanting
Speaker 8: to just think the you know, the community of you
Speaker 8: know of a sub Arizona Tucson of just giving me
Speaker 8: this opportunity to be here this long and have an impact.
Speaker 5: Somehow. I can see you being in LA and a
Speaker 5: years at the Olympics.
Speaker 6: Do you think you'll have a role with maybe Team
Speaker 6: USA or or something out there?
Speaker 8: Well, well, well, my role in uh in twenty eight Uh,
Speaker 8: it has to be with me coaching an athlete. That's
Speaker 8: that's what that's what I want. I'm definitely gonna have
Speaker 8: you know one you know, you know, some type of
Speaker 8: a role.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 8: You know they're in southern uh, you know, southern California.
Speaker 8: And then part of what that's going to be, have
Speaker 8: no idea whatsoever, but my Baptist way of having a
Speaker 8: role as one getting getting one of my athletes, you know,
Speaker 8: into the Olympic Games competing.
Speaker 2: Could you you were here my time more than thirty
Speaker 2: five years? Could you have left maybe for another place,
Speaker 2: but you wanted to stay here?
Speaker 8: Oh? Absolutely? And it's it's we were with my wife
Speaker 8: and I in a couple of other coaches are having
Speaker 8: this conversation literally just recently, you know, Uh so I
Speaker 8: interviewed uh, you know, in succession, I interviewed at Texas Tech.
Speaker 8: I interviewed at at Tennessee, then Alabama. I interviewed out
Speaker 8: there for the head coaching job. I went out twice
Speaker 8: for you know, technically two interviews and then the USC job.
Speaker 8: You know, I'll never forget that man. Pat Hayden was
Speaker 8: literally on his vacation and he landed in Hawaii. I
Speaker 8: had told him before he before he left, that I
Speaker 8: wasn't interested in taking the USC job, and he says, okay,
Speaker 8: well just think about it. I'm going on vacation. He
Speaker 8: lands in UH in Hawaii and he calls me, he's
Speaker 8: are you sure you won't take the position? You know?
Speaker 8: And yeah, I'm what I want to do with my
Speaker 8: life and in my community. It's it's here in Arizona.
Speaker 8: It's uh it's in southern Arizona. I couldn't be the
Speaker 8: same person that I am, quite frankly, you know, if
Speaker 8: I'm coaching at USC. And he absolutely respected that.
Speaker 5: Interesting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so the programs in good hands with the new coach.
Speaker 5: I assume you're on board.
Speaker 8: With that, yeah, you know, and and and the UH
Speaker 8: I did. The interesting thing about it is that you
Speaker 8: went to about six degrees of separation, you know, his
Speaker 8: mentor and a person that truly influenced his life. Uh
Speaker 8: As the director he's going was was a coach teammate
Speaker 8: with me at cal Poly Slo. I'll send you a
Speaker 8: letter that that he wrote to the to the Mustang
Speaker 8: Daily Times or whatever the school newspaper was when I left.
Speaker 8: They didn't they didn't have the funding, the you know,
Speaker 8: the pay you know, coaches other than the head coach
Speaker 8: at UH cal Poly. And so his mentor, Dave Tanelli,
Speaker 8: was the head coach at you know, uh at Virginia
Speaker 8: Tech for a number of years and really mentored him.
Speaker 8: And when I look at it's crazy. I interviewed him
Speaker 8: for my throws position when I hired you know, coach
Speaker 8: uh you know Lucas who's with us right now, you know,
Speaker 8: And there are things about you know, you know McKay
Speaker 8: Luka is McKay, his his coaching technique, you know that
Speaker 8: I felt really fit the population of the athletes that
Speaker 8: we had better. Not that he was necessarily a better
Speaker 8: coach than you know than uh, you know, coach Jobbs,
Speaker 8: but his personality fit the population that we had. Ironically enough,
Speaker 8: now this gentleman, I think he's gonna be a much
Speaker 8: better to rest her, quite frankly, than just an individual coach,
Speaker 8: because I think his his his drive and his and
Speaker 8: his desire to build programs, you know, your goals go wait,
Speaker 8: go beyond just uh an individual event area, and I
Speaker 8: think that's what you know, we're looking at. To answer
Speaker 8: your question, is he going to be great here? Time's
Speaker 8: gonna tell mean, heck, we we don't know. I mean
Speaker 8: we we we hire coaches, you know, in all areas
Speaker 8: with the expectation that they fit our model and that
Speaker 8: they're going to be able to you know, uh do
Speaker 8: and exploit the things that we want the you know,
Speaker 8: the number one thing is that he has a He
Speaker 8: has definitely have the true passion and a love for
Speaker 8: you know, for the sport. And now just a matter
Speaker 8: of you know, how do you how do you know,
Speaker 8: you know, adapt yourself into you know this you know,
Speaker 8: you know this environment here it's two times different, you know,
Speaker 8: and it's different in a very exciting way because we
Speaker 8: are a true college you know experience.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, no question, no question. Okay, So enough of
Speaker 2: that stuff. Let's get to the important stuff. How do
Speaker 2: you like Rogers going to your team?
Speaker 8: Oh, I'll tell you what you know, uh, and I'm
Speaker 8: not a man on an island other than people who
Speaker 8: are Roger haters, you know, all that all that guy
Speaker 8: needs to be able to do is put the ball
Speaker 8: where the heck it needs to be at. You know,
Speaker 8: we don't need him running anything other than the offense.
Speaker 8: You know, I think that I think that he's gonna bring.
Speaker 8: I think he's gonna bring a lot to the table.
Speaker 8: I don't think they're getting enough to be a super
Speaker 8: Bowl team. I'm sorry, I'm a fan, you know that,
Speaker 8: But the reality of it, there's my god, I think
Speaker 8: he makes us a lot better.
Speaker 6: You'll be able to travel a little bit more, maybe
Speaker 6: go see some more games that usually get out there
Speaker 6: like you know occasionally.
Speaker 17: Right.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, so one of the you know, uh first
Speaker 8: individuals who actually text me when my retirement was posted,
Speaker 8: the very first person actually was Greg Burns, you know,
Speaker 8: and you know, he's just been one of my favorite
Speaker 8: peak mentors in my life. You know, ever, of Emanuel
Speaker 8: Cedric Gencioboui who hired me here, but his very he
Speaker 8: remembered just clearly that one of my bucket lists when
Speaker 8: I retire is to hit the major you know, collegiate
Speaker 8: football stadiums and the NFL stadiums in Alabama was number
Speaker 8: one on my lists because when I interviewed there, the
Speaker 8: very first place I went, I didn't go to the
Speaker 8: athletic Director's office. I went to the Bear Bryant Museum
Speaker 8: and at that point they were tearing down the track
Speaker 8: and they were making the track into an RV park
Speaker 8: for football, and says I have a spot for you. Well,
Speaker 8: I'll be there, my friend.
Speaker 2: So did he Was he the one that did the
Speaker 2: interviewing to be the new coach?
Speaker 5: Or was that before he got there?
Speaker 8: That way before I remember a Bob Bakraft Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: So Bob Bockrock was the was the a D at
Speaker 8: that point at Alabama when I interview Wow he was?
Speaker 2: I got here on the show a few years ago.
Speaker 8: Yep, he was. He was doctor Dempsey, no man, and
Speaker 8: he said no really well.
Speaker 5: He was that guy.
Speaker 2: So so did what what made you say no to him?
Speaker 2: Or did it come to that point?
Speaker 8: Well? You know, and so when you look at financially,
Speaker 8: it was a much different scenario, you know. But Tucson
Speaker 8: and the Southern Arizona community, for me, if this that
Speaker 8: was it, I mean I made enough money. I make
Speaker 8: enough money where you know, we're not getting filthy rich.
Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't have the basketball contract by
Speaker 8: me stretch of the imagination, you know. But we're living
Speaker 8: well enough where you know, all my kids went to
Speaker 8: school here.
Speaker 13: You know.
Speaker 8: My son works in the I T department right now.
Speaker 8: My my daughter got her masked here just recently, you know,
Speaker 8: from l r N Marketing, and she's she's working at
Speaker 8: you know, at Banner you know, uh, you know with uh,
Speaker 8: you know, in the marketing department you know there. And
Speaker 8: then my middle daughter got our degree at psychology here
Speaker 8: and now she's a family therapist you know, out in
Speaker 8: Georgia and so so Tucson and Arizona, the southern Arizona community.
Speaker 8: It's it's it's my family, and I just yeah, I
Speaker 8: have a dream and I have this vision as to
Speaker 8: what you know, I say, our sport and that you know,
Speaker 8: the sport of you know, of track and field, you know,
Speaker 8: can be given the opportunity. And so now that you
Speaker 8: know I'm not necessarily restricted by some n c A rules,
Speaker 8: there's a lot of other things that I think I
Speaker 8: can do within the community to really explode you know
Speaker 8: what we're capable of doing, you know, with national championships.
Speaker 8: You know that we can bring to you know, to
Speaker 8: this unity. That would be something really special.
Speaker 5: Very nice.
Speaker 2: Let me say this, I'll probably never reached retirement age
Speaker 2: because I'm doing what I'm doing. But you and Dave,
Speaker 2: Dave's retired, he has nothing to do. But you guys
Speaker 2: should go fishing.
Speaker 5: We should. We got some stories, We got some stories
Speaker 5: we can tell each other.
Speaker 13: Right.
Speaker 8: Well, ironically enough, he's he's up at Jim Click's rent
Speaker 8: as we speak. He's probably not doing a heck of
Speaker 8: a lot of fishing, but that he's definitely has his
Speaker 8: feed up in that beautiful Uh. I like to call
Speaker 8: it a cabin, but it's it's a little beyond the cabin.
Speaker 5: Who are you talking about? Real quick? Dave Murray? Oh
Speaker 5: Dave Burry, No, yeah, yeah, no, ok. Yeah.
Speaker 2: In fact, I was going to text you about him,
Speaker 2: but I was saying, Dave Silver, my boy here right here,
Speaker 2: because he's retired.
Speaker 8: Ah well, yeah, well he knows, he knows all the stories.
Speaker 8: He brought all the stories from Sanuel's.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: Did you guys go back to Oh yeah, I mean yeah,
Speaker 6: we were there. We were there at the same time.
Speaker 6: Oh that's what I got here first, and all of
Speaker 6: a sudden here comes Fred walking through McHale. Wait a second.
Speaker 6: It's one of the one of the great like Forrest
Speaker 6: Gump stories.
Speaker 5: You know it was.
Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. Okay, well bred, always could talk to you.
Speaker 2: Enjoy your time. We'll probably talk to you again when
Speaker 2: Rogers is screwing up the Steelers.
Speaker 8: Well, oh don't don't. Don't count on that one. We
Speaker 8: are the Steeler.
Speaker 5: They'll miss it up on their own. I get it.
Speaker 5: Thank you man.
Speaker 8: You well my pleasure.
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Speaker 1: I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports
Speaker 1: fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to tying the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Dave Silver, You're Ray.
Speaker 2: We got about twelve minutes ish. You just want to
Speaker 2: call please do five two zero four, one, six, seventy
Speaker 2: four to forty.
Speaker 5: What do you have in tonight's game? What do you think? YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2: I guess liv put out a little pole there Coastal
Speaker 2: Carolina or the LSU.
Speaker 4: Or an asteroid.
Speaker 5: We're an astroid. We're an asteroid in both of them,
Speaker 5: the asteroids. So she said that's not so.
Speaker 2: After watching the game and LSU winning, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: how in the hell did this happened? But you know,
Speaker 2: things happen in weird ways, I asked Lev, and I
Speaker 2: have to go to the textass and what.
Speaker 5: Makes him a good coach? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It was because you know what he's doing doesn't just
Speaker 2: happen by accident. You said, money. But even if you
Speaker 2: have good teams, look at the teams that didn't.
Speaker 5: Make it too right? Have money? Well, I think that
Speaker 5: was a big story.
Speaker 6: Kind of the storyline when he left here was that
Speaker 6: he was going to get so much more more to himself.
Speaker 5: Sure, it's like, how do you you know, how do
Speaker 5: you combat that? And LSU has a good program? Yeah, right,
Speaker 5: and they always have.
Speaker 2: So he responded to be I won't say what he
Speaker 2: said because he was joking, of course, but he's an
Speaker 2: intense dude, extremely thorough and passionate and a great motivator
Speaker 2: because you know, you have good players and not always
Speaker 2: good players play well forever, and and he and he
Speaker 2: gets them to play hard apparently, and he's probably very
Speaker 2: intense and and that was part of his first part.
Speaker 2: And he's just kind of like an intense dude that
Speaker 2: they play hard for.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: It was kind of interesting when we're talking to Ryan
Speaker 6: Radkey earlier. He was he made some comment that we
Speaker 6: didn't really jump back on about how he was saying
Speaker 6: how some of the college baseball teams that he's been
Speaker 6: watching don't play the game the right way.
Speaker 5: That wasn't quite sure what he meant.
Speaker 6: By that necessarily, other than yeah, we've see the errors
Speaker 6: and we see things happening. Yeah, maybe you don't see
Speaker 6: in you know, higher level baseball. Yeah, but no, that's
Speaker 6: a good that's a good point. I heard that too.
Speaker 2: The other thing that I thought was very interesting and
Speaker 2: very accurate was the teams aren't winning, they're losing.
Speaker 5: They're losing. Yeah, yeah again. And then we talked about
Speaker 5: this too.
Speaker 2: They lost their way into or the other team lost
Speaker 2: their way into Arizona.
Speaker 5: Get into the term.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, making pitching decisions, whether it's that
Speaker 6: or just you know, just strange moves defensively or or
Speaker 6: not making a move.
Speaker 5: I mean, those are.
Speaker 6: Things that coaches have to do, and I guess maybe whatever,
Speaker 6: maybe if they just aren't being done the same way
Speaker 6: professional coaches.
Speaker 5: Because you and I covered him and we can go
Speaker 5: through this.
Speaker 2: I asked him about Johnson, But let me ask you
Speaker 2: about lut When I asked you about lu what do
Speaker 2: you think his secret sauce boy?
Speaker 6: I mean, he did know how to make the right
Speaker 6: moves and get the right players. I used to always
Speaker 6: hear these stories. He probably kind of reported it that
Speaker 6: way as well as that, like when Luton needed somebody,
Speaker 6: he got that person. Like when he needed to fill
Speaker 6: a hole on those rosters, Hey, I need a six
Speaker 6: seven big guy who can get some rebounds, doesn't have
Speaker 6: to be a big score.
Speaker 5: And he would go get Michael or somebody. Yeah, he
Speaker 5: took a Davidson. Yeah, he just kept sticking these guys
Speaker 5: in and was yeah, perfect.
Speaker 2: And he was one of those guys that fundamentals it
Speaker 2: was the John Wooden. John wouldn't get him better as
Speaker 2: basketball players get him to play the game correctly. So yeah,
Speaker 2: what'd you say? Well, how did you describe him? Just
Speaker 2: the guy who found the right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, he basically found the right
Speaker 6: guys in those positions and just.
Speaker 5: Guys played hard for him. Guys played hard for him.
Speaker 2: There are times when they probably got tired of him,
Speaker 2: but they also played hard for him.
Speaker 6: His connections to Wooden you probably know even better than
Speaker 6: we ever got to see. But there was obviously you know,
Speaker 6: he he idolized him. You know, he used his coaching,
Speaker 6: His practice routine was I think copied from Wooden.
Speaker 5: And remember there was a couple of times where Wooden
Speaker 5: actually came doun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they tried to shield him from everybody when they
Speaker 2: came down. I know, I don't did you get a
Speaker 2: chance to no, No, But he came up the ramp
Speaker 2: in the car and blah blah blah, just trying to
Speaker 2: make everything that was one of his later later in
Speaker 2: life things, right before he passed.
Speaker 5: I mean, that was it was amazing, you know, I
Speaker 5: mean it's a legend. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's funny because when they first when they won the
Speaker 2: title ninety seven and I did my first book, and
Speaker 2: part of it I says, I got to get ahold
Speaker 2: of John Wooden.
Speaker 5: How am I gonna do this? And I did? And
Speaker 5: he called me back.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I get people who don't call me back
Speaker 2: in this town, and Judd would everyone. So when people
Speaker 2: don't call me back, what the hell I even got?
Speaker 2: Judd wouldn't to come me back, and you don't call
Speaker 2: me back? How does that work? Good example?
Speaker 6: I mean yeah, I mean he was obviously who he
Speaker 6: is the Wizard of Westwood or whatnot. But then you know,
Speaker 6: then to have Walt Bill Walton come a few years later,
Speaker 6: and you know, he would talk about him and he
Speaker 6: you know, he talked about Luke and Luke. I mean
Speaker 6: it was just an interesting, you know, dynamic damn all
Speaker 6: those guys together.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what about Dick Telly? What was his secret sauce?
Speaker 6: I think he had the players respect and they really
Speaker 6: enjoyed playing for him. That's kind of how I picked
Speaker 6: on as a as a media member. You could tell
Speaker 6: them the players just talked about him like, you know,
Speaker 6: they were here in college. He was like their their
Speaker 6: dad in a way, you know, he was he cared
Speaker 6: about them. And later again later in life, you saw
Speaker 6: these guys come back and they just tell stories about
Speaker 6: how he was such a good leader and then they
Speaker 6: really appreciated that.
Speaker 5: Right right, And we talked to Rich about him a
Speaker 5: couple of days ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean x'es and o's. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 6: we don't know. Defense if you look at the statistics,
Speaker 6: was unbelievable and good assistance that those guys were great. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and you know, even you know Larry Smith had some
Speaker 6: great assistance before him. There were some good those guys
Speaker 6: kind of and they were as much a part of
Speaker 6: the story as the head coaches.
Speaker 2: A whatt about Larry because I didn't cover Larry.
Speaker 6: Hard nosed came out of the beautcham Beckler fan family
Speaker 6: and Michigan, so.
Speaker 4: It has that.
Speaker 5: So they they played hard for what was this?
Speaker 6: They played hard for him, and they were they were
Speaker 6: like not sure like Finesse. Maybe maybe I'm wrong, but
Speaker 6: you know they were they were were tough. That's the
Speaker 6: proverbial lunch pale dudes. You know, the the god the
Speaker 6: Rickey Huntley is the gimme.
Speaker 5: Yeah, didn't mess around. I mean, you know it was
Speaker 5: it was.
Speaker 6: It was a different style of football anyway. It wasn't
Speaker 6: as wide open as as we as we're used to now.
Speaker 6: But you know they had the perfect defense. I mean,
Speaker 6: those Hunley brothers when they came in, and there were
Speaker 6: some others that came from.
Speaker 5: The coach.
Speaker 2: He coached football, he coached itself and then he went
Speaker 2: to uh the Tankerverdy Jobbs, those type just dudes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, look at that. Look for Jay Jobbins wound up,
Speaker 6: you know, becoming you know, great guy, super tough, just
Speaker 6: tough dudes. Yeah, and they had a lot of guys
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 5: I'm sure.
Speaker 6: I'm sure they've got some really good stories that happened
Speaker 6: behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: I have I have my show with the pregame show
Speaker 2: with the Oja and uh who else.
Speaker 5: Well, the Phoenix God. How could irons?
Speaker 6: Those dudes are just tough dudes. You know, I think
Speaker 6: that's a book for you too. Yeah, I should do
Speaker 6: something about those guys. The good old days of that
Speaker 6: eighties era of football, especially when they were on probation
Speaker 6: and they kind of had a chip on their shoulder,
Speaker 6: you know, and they're still sending guys in the NFL.
Speaker 6: Wricky gets picked in the first you know, number seven
Speaker 6: or whatever.
Speaker 5: He was from rags to riches.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there were some. There were some tough guys and
Speaker 6: a lot of them very successful.
Speaker 2: What about what about coach Kendall kind of lush and
Speaker 2: they played hard because they respect that.
Speaker 5: A lot of them, you know, they came from that
Speaker 5: generation too.
Speaker 6: He was a college star in Minnesota, plays in the Pro.
Speaker 6: So he had he had some bat he had some
Speaker 6: things he could talk about the real I don't know
Speaker 6: what's the word history that he could say, you know what,
Speaker 6: I did play in the major leagues. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: I kind of know how to get there. That's why
Speaker 6: we're talking last week. A lot of the comparisons were
Speaker 6: the same.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I played in the majors. I was an All
Speaker 6: American Minnesota. Yeah, and I think the players respected that.
Speaker 6: You know, he was a legitimate coach.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know, you don't cover him now. And Sean, I
Speaker 2: don't even know how to describe how Sean did it.
Speaker 2: But Tommy, Yeah, you from Afar, from Afar, what do
Speaker 2: you think or you wouldn't know because you're not.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he just comes off as being uh, he's not
Speaker 6: going to fly off the handle. He's pretty right.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the anti Sean Sean. Yeah, no, that's part
Speaker 2: of it. But I think that they like his style.
Speaker 2: They like his style on and off the court because
Speaker 2: he's just another dude.
Speaker 5: He's a dude.
Speaker 2: And I just did a story on him for for
Speaker 2: for BIS Tucson for his Father of the Year thing
Speaker 2: and I even said to this question, it says, uh
Speaker 2: to me, Tommy, just from the sideline that you come
Speaker 2: off as a guy as a parent, as a parent
Speaker 2: is you're not You're not demanding on your kids, uh,
Speaker 2: and they love you for it. You give them a
Speaker 2: free reign, but if they screwed up, you'd be on them.
Speaker 2: And I think that's how his style he kind of
Speaker 2: agreed with. That's how his style with his kid, with
Speaker 2: the players, I'm gonna give you the ball. You guys
Speaker 2: are gonna practice these free, free wheeling plays, blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: have fun, but don't screw it.
Speaker 5: Up when you can. You can tell that's his personality.
Speaker 5: That's you know exactly it we see it exactly.
Speaker 6: I don't know him like you know him, so i'm
Speaker 6: you know, we see it that way, and we don't
Speaker 6: we don't panic.
Speaker 5: You know, he looks like he's under control.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 6: There was a good piece I think Bruce wrote about
Speaker 6: it in the Star today about the fam. All the
Speaker 6: whole family's going off to Europe for this basketball thing
Speaker 6: that he's I mean, the grand kid's going.
Speaker 5: Little baby's got them on the plane. But that's where
Speaker 5: they are.
Speaker 2: To me, that was part of that story where they
Speaker 2: grew up traveling the world and and and now they
Speaker 2: enjoy because their their parents did this for them.
Speaker 5: You got to go just about okay, thanks you Dave.
Speaker 2: Well, Dave, you're not in tomorrow, right, but I think
Speaker 2: I might have Jay, If not Jay, somebody else. Right.
Speaker 2: You're in tomorrow, Okay, Cool, you might have an NBA
Speaker 2: champion tomorrow.
Speaker 5: We might Okay, Thanks buddy,