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It's going on, Stormy.
Speaker 2: Not much enjoying enjoying the uh the financial markets, but
then that's not much at all. Happy to be here.
Speaker 1: Hey, anybody who anybody who has a little bit in
the financial markets or has some silver coins at home,
is like enjoying life right now? Jay Burden, what's happening?
Speaker 3: Not too much as a as a resident of Virginia
who is, as the kids say, completely and totally broke.
I'm not having a great time. The last couple of
weeks have not been good for me. So uh, at
least somewhere in the world you in store me you're
having a good time.
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, poor you and America. I feel terrible.
Speaker 1: There's I mean, we have a lot of our a
lot of our guys are in Virginia, and yeah, I
mean this can't be good. This, this isn't uh, this
isn't boding well for for the future at all. I mean,
the local local nullification maybe getting its first real honest
test in Virginia coming up for the next you know,
four to six year ors. Ever along the governor thing
is there?
Speaker 2: Oh well, they kind of they didn't they like set
it up to I mean, some of you guys know
this because we talk personally, but I've been looking into
potentially moving there and correct me if I'm wrong, Jay,
But doesn't it kind of look like the setup of
like a thousand year lib t hard Reich.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much. And this is is kind of neatly
ties into, you know, the subject of this podcast, because effectively,
what you have is that the GOP is unwilling to
make changes right to become a real political force, and
the Democrats are playing for keeps. And so there was
sort of speculation for a while in between the election
and you know, span Burger actually coming in, which, by
the way, it turns out I was slandering her. Her
maiden name is Davis, so early life check exonerated her.
She has other problems, of course.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: But effectively, there was a debate going on as to
how serious this woman was gonna was she going to
be was she going to govern as a centrist Democrat?
You know, this is an important area, you know that
we don't want to mess up. Or is she going
to govern like chairman mal And that effectively seems to
be her decision, right Obviously, you know, the two A
stuff has you know, made headlines, but also a lot
of the changes are serious structural changes to elections, to districting,
to the patronage system efectively designed to turn Virginia into
a state like Massachusetts, California, or Illinois within the span
of one election. Right, and incidentally, Stormy when you and
I kind of in you know, in real time, came
up with this idea of the Republican Samson option. We
were talking about just this occurrence, right, what is going
on with Virginia, And of course you and I did
that podcast over Thanksgiving. Right, it's been a little bit.
I wrote an article about it, you know, over the
next couple of weeks. It's been out for a while now,
but that thesis has been born out Right, it seems
to be accurately predicting how things are going. And I
just want to take a victory lap because I've been
I've been getting great comments from it. Right, Perhaps the
funniest is I'm upset that you're right about this because
I know we're never going to stop hearing about it
for the next four years.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think so. I think I think when
it comes to victory lapse. You like me, Well, you know,
mature with age. When you get enough of these, right,
you just don't want to dunk on everybody. You just
want them to stop being fucking stupid. Yeah, so let's
go into I'm just going to get more resentful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, eventually I'll reach a sort of a stage like
Pete where I've just got a cold black heart from
dealing with libertarians on the internet for a decade. But
in all seriousness, right, that term the Republican Samson option.
I assume everyone is familiar with the actual Samson option, right,
Israel's nuclear deterrent, which officially doesn't exist, but if you're here,
you're no doubt convinced that it does. Named after the
character from the Book of Judges, Samson, who you know,
after he is betrayed by his you know, his girlfriend
is He's bound and chained in the Philistine Temple, prays
out to God and then pushes the walls apart, killing
himself and hundreds of Philistines. Obviously, it's sort of become
a byword for a murder suicide. Right, I can't win,
but I'm taking you with me, and so the thesis
and then I'll kick kick this back to you, Stormy
is effectively, this is what the neocons or the establishment
right is doing to the Republican Party. They are sabotaging
any chance of actually getting anything done, of making real
structural changes to the regime, in order to maintain their
relative level of pre eminence on the right. So a
couple examples here, right, This is effectively exactly what's happening
with the whole woke right perch Right, The right is
culturally in the ascendant. Can you listen to any number
of people talk about anecdotes of you know, zoomers at
the gym right saying something that you could only find
on the Unge Reviewer, The Daily Stormer fifteen years ago
has entered popular culture. I mean down to the point
where a Gartha, which is, you know, a fairly obscure concept,
has become a massive meat. Okay, fair enough, everyone making
an agartha edit of Charlie Kirk and George Floyd don't
actually most likely know what they're talking about.
Speaker 2: Back from the UK, and young dudes on the airplane
were calling the airplane food goy.
Speaker 3: Slot exactly right. There's a level of cultural cachet there.
And so if you were a genuine right wing movement,
you'd want to capitalize on that, surely, But instead the
conservative movement has been plunged into this internal purge. I
don't remember if we talked about this stormy we might have,
but it was it was somewhat At the same time.
The purge is at heritage, right, eat the Shabbat dinner
or else you're out, Oh you're Catholic. Exactly, you need
to be purged. And we've seen a lot of language
about effectively purging the youth. The woke right, which I
won't stop talking about, is exactly this mechanism, right, it's
a desire to do exactly what was done during the
battle between the paleo Conservatives and the neo Conservatives thirty
years ago two the sort of serious right, if you will,
and again on first examination, this is baffling. Right, if
you were a genuine political force, why would you want
to do that? You want to win, especially when we've
seen with the Democrats or even towards the Trump administration,
what the consequences of failure are? You get shot, you
get sent to the Hague, you get plunged into a
three thousand year libtard Reich right, the consequences for failure
are steep. But nonetheless, these people, in the most general
use of that word, continue to act in this way.
And here comes right this AMSONOPSI. Effectively, they are going
to kill this thing, kill the party, kill the right,
rather than allow it to fall under the influence of
people they don't like, their enemies. A murder suicide. Obviously,
this has, you know, foreign policy implications. One of the
big reasons that they hate figures like Tucker is the
fact that he is not a fan of the Nation
of Israel. Right, that seems to be the dividing line
as far as other kind of decisions like this. I mean,
look to candidate selection, right when some earl sears in
my state was a horrible candidate that really anyone could
have told you was not going to win.
Speaker 2: And Jemima had a shot exactly.
Speaker 3: Especially in a state where okay, fair enough it went
for Biden into elections or sorry, it went for the
Democrats in the last three I.
Speaker 4: Guess, but.
Speaker 2: Driving the car.
Speaker 3: Also, they had a Republican governor who was massively popular.
And we've seen look to Florida that you can take
a purple leaning blue state and with a confident and
capable Republican leader turn it into a solid red state.
That is doable. We've seen it done. There was not
only no desire to do that, but also a desire
to promote a you know, never Trump anti Confederate statue,
female immigrant of color. Right, Seemingly, this is inexplicable. Again,
look to the promotion of vivek Ramashwami, a state which
with Trump won handily, he is now edging out a
loss to some random Democrat lady. Again, a very similar situation.
So it seems to me that this is a deliberate destruction.
One more point and then I promise I'll kick it
back to you, Stormy or Pete. I'm not trying to
monopolize this or take up all the air in the room.
Someone once said, look to MTG Right Marley Marjorie Taylor Green,
someone who I don't particularly love, but she's announced she's
out of politics, and initially that was sort of confusing. Right, Okay,
she was feuding with President Trump. But there are a
lot of people in the Republican Party that can attack
Trump from the right and do all right. Thomas Massey
is an example. Right, I don't happen to particularly like him.
We have some friends in common, so I'll grant him that.
But he's doing just fine. Right, He's probably gonna soar through,
you know, hit whatever primary challenge is. He seems to
be raising a lot of money and doing well. So
that's a possibility. You can do that. But why does
she leave right? Okay, yeah, she's feuding with Trump. There
are some some threats made to her, but let's be honest,
every politician has this. Well, to me, it seems as
if she's reacting to this same the same trend line
that there's a big setup right to engineer this collapse
and then lay the blame at the feet of the
woke right, the idea that oh we got too radical,
that's what's losing us these elections. We need to return
to the effectively the conservative movement pre MAGA or pre
Trump right, the kind of Mitt Romney types. And it
seems to me, and I'm not the only person to
say this, Sandbatch is actually the one who suggested this
idea to me in a tweet. Was effectively MTG is
removing herself from the field of play.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: How can you blame the woke right if the woke, right,
isn't there. I don't think that's a silver bullet strategy,
but I think it's an interesting indication that other people
are picking up on what you and I are seeing.
Speaker 1: Story.
Speaker 3: But I've been talking for ten minutes, I'll kick it
to you.
Speaker 2: Well, I actually I've actually evolved my thinking on this.
If you view as we're all fans of the Good
Old Boys, Great Podcast, as bog Beef describes conservatives, at
least in America as the Washington generals, right, the people
that are there to lose, but to make a good
show of it. Do you think that the Washington generals
go out there trying their hardest, or they go out
there knowing that their job is to lose, not just
that they're you know, deliberately undermatched, but are actively facilitating
the victory of the clubtrotters right to make it look
like a real show, right, Spice it up out, k fabite.
You know, if you imagine that this thing, the same
dynamic plays out over and over and over again, you're
left with no other conclusion that the Washington generals not
only know that they're there to lose, but they are
there because they are really good at losing. Right, they
are willing participants in the game. Right, it's only you
that then that they're there trying their hardest, but they're
actually there to put on a show. They're actually part
of the show. They are part of the globetrotter show.
If you view conservative politics or conservative politicians and commentators
as this, right, not that, not that they are basically
nuking the party to then blame it on us to
then go compete in electoral contest with the Democrats on
their policies, not our policies that have subsequently been purged.
You say, okay, well, are they purging us to run
Mark Levin's style political campaigns from here on out because
they think that those Mark Levin policies will actually beat
Democrats policies when they are compared apples to apples. Do
they believe this? Well, I would say the answer is no, No,
they don't. After thinking about it a lot further and
also basically seeing how the elections in Virginia played out,
It's not so much the fact that Spangenberg won that
was of interest to me. It's what she immediately did
once she won. Right, If you noticed, well, I don't
have to tell you, jacause I know you've noticed, or
son of a bitch, she has basically changed the electoral
infrastructure to guarantee democratic superiority in that place forever. So,
if you view the people in control of American politics
as a political right, they will fund left, they will
fund right, back left, they will back right right. They
don't give a fuck who's in charge as long as
the checks keep going to Israel and anti Semitism slash
hates speed stuff gets squat. Any criticism of that agenda
gets squashed at home here in America, where these people
unfortunately choose to live, as opposed to the nation in
the Middle East that were constantly required to fund. You
don't care who's in office. You don't care whether it's
Joe Biden right or Mitt Romney, because you're set. So
the only thing that you really have to worry about
is somebody sneaking into the Washington generals and actively start
playing the game right. It's not. It's not left versus
right and a fight on the right for control of
the right.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: They know that the right wing is culturally ascendent, not
their right wing but us, and as you know, elucidated
at length in your lovely article about mister David French.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: The thing that they are concerned about is the youth
writ large, and the right is largely what our version
of the right, the actual right wing politics, right right
wing energy, is effectively just the cultural and political expression
of America's youth, the people that have been fucked over
the hardest. It ain't no luxury communism for us. So
you know that they are gaining power through the Washington generals.
So yes, they are going to detonate the Republican Party
in order to blame it on the ascendant right. But
I think the real plan is not only are they
going to purposely lose elections, but they are doing so
with the express intent of having Spangenberg's take that place
instead and then immediately not just because they don't know
if you're them right. You don't know whether you're going
to be successful in purging us right or you're going
to be successful in eradicating our type of politics from
conservative conservatism at large. That's a risk you are going
to be unwilling to take. So the only way to
hedge that risk is to make sure no Republican of
any type ever gets in. So not only are you
going to basically throw the game with winsome earl Sears,
but you are going to make sure that the person
that comes in upon that loss makes it impossible for
any other political party to ever get elected. I think
they're done with pretending to be left and pretending to
be right right. The cancer to them is on the right,
so they're just going to detonate the right and rule
through the left. I don't think they actually want to
rule over the Ashes at all. I don't think they
want to be in charge of the Conservative Party at
the end of this. I think this is detonating the
right right, not just to purge us, but to purge
our vehicle entirely. They're basically nuking it from orbit because
they don't know whether they're going to be successful in
their little MAGUSI a war, right, because the impetus for
all of this comes from a place outside of the
United States. You don't give a fuck because you don't
have to live there, Right, These are people that care
about some other place and are just using America as
the vehicle to care for this other place. So if
you can care for that other place perfectly fine through
Democrat administrations, then why would you even take the risk.
What's most important to you is detonating the right, not
so you can take over the right and then fight
from the right against the you know, the Wokesters. It's
to just detonate the right, nuke all of that political
energy that's there, and basically remove the franchise from all
of us. We're basically not like, we're not allowed to
play politics in Virginia anymore. They've effectively made it illegal.
So it's not only did they throw the election on purpose,
right put a DEI candidate in. There is a refutation
for meanies like us. I bet you that Spangenberg winning
and Spangenberg rolling out things that make it entirely impossible
for a Republican to win at least until the time
that we're fucking sixty years old, will be Joe Biden's
age by the time that setup changes, which is good
enough for them. You said in your article in response
to David French that it wasn't just cutting out the
youth on the right, it was cutting out the youth
period and the right is a reflection of that energy.
So why even bother fucking with it? Right, we'll throw
the elections and we will rule through the Dems, and
first order business as soon as our DEM person gets
elected is to make sure no energy above any type
neoconn or otherwise comes through the right. Ever, again, I
don't think that they plan on being in the House
with us when they bring it down, because they never
were here to begin with.
Speaker 1: Well, it seems to me the you know, the greatest
trick the Devil ever played was to convince people that
national politics was all there was, and it causes people
to take their eyes off the ball of what they
can control, which is local, county, and even state politics.
So while you know, while we're going you know, well
I'm not going to include you guys, but while I'm
getting called a panic in and a black pillar and
everything because Trump is doing all these amazing things for
the country, you lose a state over here, I mean, Virginia,
Fucking the Cavaliers, Virginia. You lose that state. You've already
lost Minnesota, which was when I was growing up, like
all we talked about Minnesota was I mean, that's the
whitest state on the in the country, you know, and
now it's basically Somalia. You know. I assume if they
cut off federal Yeah, if they well, yeah, I mean California.
I mean the Beach Boys were a band. I mean
even if they were a CIA op, I don't care
about that. But the whole fucking the whole subject of
the band's matter was California and how fucking awesome it
was California girls. They weren't talking about freaking Somali girls.
You've watched, You're watching all of these states fall away.
Georgia is going to be next.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: And while you're going yay, look at what Trump's doing, Well,
what's he doing to get to get back these states?
Speaker 2: I think they're going, well, I think they're taking your advice. Yeah,
they're going to do through the states what they can't
do federally. Right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, I've been saying for a while now,
i mean five years, how important local politics is, and
it seems like the only people that were listening were
are fucking ops. Yeah, because I mean Trump, Hey, oh, Greenland, Venezuela.
You know, we're gonna we're gonna control the hemisphere. You
can't even control your own fucking country. You can't even
control the you know, the state of Cavaliers. You can't
even control Minnesota. You can't control California. You can't control
you know, Texas is gonna be Texas can look like
Ontario in five years.
Speaker 4: Um hm.
Speaker 2: And they're doing that through down graphics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know. And you know what Charles s
Badil said on buck Crime. He didn't say it on
buck Crime since again he said it privately, but he's
talked about this before. Is he used to work for
US you know Universe, you know, States Immigration and Custom Service.
So when people are coming into the country, he interviews him.
He worked there for eight years from ninety seven to
two thousand and five, and he left because he was
okaying seventeen people and interviewing seventeen people a day for
eight years to come into the country. And in all that,
all those years, five of them were white. And recently
he saw that, hey things are happening again, let me reapply,
and he got hired back and he quit after four days.
Why is literally nothing has changed? Nothing has changed. And
I mean we're talking where. I won't say where he's working,
you know, the area that he's working, but the area
he's worked he was hired back into. You would think
that people who are working in that d would be
the most enthusiastic about doing the job that Trump says
he once done. But now I mean just panicking black pilling,
you know, as Virginia. I mean if Virginia is basically
going to be I mean, it's been the Nuremberg regime,
but it's the Nuremberg regime on steroids.
Speaker 2: Now they're about to lose Florida.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they can lose Florida. I think
didn't well, I mean with all the laws that were
passed down there against free speech, and you have people
getting door knocked for criticizing Israel on the internet. I mean,
you know that's that's not good. Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Brian Daniels is going to win, man,
I don't think. I don't know. He's getting beaten down
by you know, that fishback guy, which I don't think
he has a chance of winning either, but he does
have a chance of making sure Byron D. I don't think, basically,
I don't. Pete, you lived in Florida, would you say
a vast majority of the non whites in Florida, which
there are infinitely more than there are when there were
when you were here, right, literally COVID. Everyone talks about
like the all the Red state or sorry, the Blue
State runaways that came in. The population of Florida is tripled,
But the only new people I see are fucking South Americans. Like,
I don't see these New York runaways. I see very
few of them in comparison to the amount of basically
you know, third world immigration that I see here. But
the one thing that you probably know about Latin Americans
is they're not too fond of black folks. They will
probably give like, you know, you take the most racist
guy on the right or the caricature of what leftoids
think that right wing opinions are on black people, and
those are actual Latin American people's opinions about black people.
So you're gonna run a black guy for governor in
a state that almost all of the non white votes
are Hispanic because the GOP doesn't give a shit. They're like, oh,
this is a brown black whatever. It just lets you
know that anti like non the person not being white
is the actual impetus for his candidacy, because if it was,
you know, if there was any type of strategy behind it,
you would never run a black guy in Florida for
exactly the reasons I just outlined, which tells you that
it's just more important to them that the guy's not white,
and that you know, anyways.
Speaker 3: Well, and I think that rationally right, you would assume
just a baseline level of human selfishness and self preservation,
setting aside any kind of you know, Republican fantasies about
you know, good governance or whatever. Even if you take
a very cynical view of politicians, you'd assume, well, if
you want to be in charge, and you have all
of the power and money that comes with that, you
would try your best to be in charge. Right that
that's almost so obvious, it's in tautological. But in this
instance we see that there is a higher priority, or
in fact, several higher priorities. Obviously we have, you know,
the foreign policy priorities. This you know, we've all talked
about at length. But another one is the eternal virtue
of diversity, right, the idea of being able to say
the Democrats are the real racists, and apparently that that
fleeting high right of being able to say, oh, you know,
joke's on you. We ran a black person and only
ninety three percent of black people voted against us is
worth throwing away political power? And Stormy, I know you
and I both have been listening and a lot to
Mark Mitchell of Resmusen because he's talking about this incredible
generational divide. Look, housing isn't everything. You know, owning a
home is symbolic of many things more than simply having
a place to stay. It's by one hundred percent. And
what he's talking about is that there's this mass of
young men who are uninterested in, you know, effectively like
we consider like woke politics, who are extremely upset and
don't really care how we fix this right, whether this
is socialism, some kind of right wing authoritarianism, a blend
if you will, of the two. They simply do not care.
And when we're drawing this out, Stormy, we're drawing out,
you know, all of these states which are in very
precarious positions. I don't think it's realistic to look at
this as an actual three thousand year lib Hard Reich right,
the idea that you know, the effectively the country will
be plunged into you know, Letitia James forever because there
are several things working at the same time, which is
one you have an immense graying of all these institutions. Right, sure,
you know it's not like you know, generation acts taken
in total, is you know much to you the right
of the average boomer, and you know, the demographics do
change with each subsequent generation, but fundamentally, like the day
of the pillow is nine and that's a fundamentally destabilizing thing.
And so to me, I see a lot of this,
and this is something that I've been speaking about.
Speaker 2: Well there's your answer to don't don't you want to
stay in power or not? All the people that you're
talking about that are in power, supposedly nominally on the right,
they're not going to be here much longer, So is
that right? But just to hold on to this really
what's driving them? Like can we even ascribe that as
a motive? Because every boomer right or left always responds
with oh, I'll be long dead by then.
Speaker 3: Were quite accurate. But to be honest, and I wonder
if a big part of this, you know, this freak out,
this you know, crackdown, is effectively a realization that this
is a fundamentally unstable system. And this is a desire
to sort of jam through as much as we can
to stay in control. Uh, I'm curious what you guys
think about that.
Speaker 2: Just as a hypothesis, it's basically what I what I
said right prior. I think that they are literally just
going to rule through the left, and what we see
is them destroying the Conservative or you know, basically destroying
the Republican Party. Needs to be thought of as they
are destroying the Republican Party because they plan to rule
from the Democrat one. It's a way to get rid
of all those all those deplorable types. You get rid
of the Maga people, and you get rid of us,
and you basically quarantine them all in a party that
now you've basically destroyed all the political impetus behind, which
would be a disaster if you planned on staying in
the or staying in power ruling through the Republican Party.
But if you plan on ruling through the Democrat Party,
then I mean, can you think of a better outcome? Well,
a previous thesis, we thought that they were going to
commit suicide with us right, that they were staying in
the Temple as they brought it down. But I think
they're just switching to the temple down the street and
then bringing down the temple that we're in.
Speaker 1: Well, it's definitely a temple. The It's exactly what we've
always said, as big an enemy, as a left, as
the rights always the quote unquote right, the Republican Party
of the GOP has always been the enemy. And now
Donald Trump is the head of the GOP. There's no one,
there is no one politically who's coming to save us
if you let Virginia go, if you do nothing to
stop Virginia from being taken by the global forces that
have to that that are taking it now. And I
mean you would think that you would want the areas
that are closest to you. I mean, what did Donald
Trump do? He put troops on the streets and put
troops on the streets of Washington, DC. You would want
to if if you think that you're going to have
this right wing rule, this you know, this Monroe doctrine,
you'd want to be as protected as possible. You'd want
to destroy your enemies locally. First, you wouldn't want you'd
want Maryland to be cleaned up. You'd want Virginia to
be cleaned up. You'd want any of you know, West Virginia,
anything close to there. You'd want you'd want it to
be cleaned up, you'd want it to be on your side.
But you know, when it comes down to it, all
these people who are talking about oh Monroe doctrine, and
we're going it's our hemisphere. What are you doing to
make sure you don't lose in twenty twenty eight because
this is still a country where people vote every four
years for a new president and the legislature is not
doing anything to put to pass laws to make things
more permanent other than executive orders which can be turned
over by the next executive And even if they pass laws,
the laws are not being upheld because judges have to
do that. And you're not doing anything to get these
get these sixty percent of the judges in the DC
district were born in another country. You're not doing anything
to get rid of them. But sure, there are some
financial things that are happening, and yeah, you went to
Davos and you told them how it was going to be.
You told them how other countries are going to look
and they're going to have to be respectful. While at home,
governors look at you and go, fuck you, We're going
to pass a law so you can't do shit here.
Speaker 3: When I think of a really oh sorry, Pete, well no,
but I think that you know, this is a if
we look at both Trump presidencies as an experiment, an
experiment of, you know, the hypothesis that this government is reformable.
So the first one is like, okay, well, Civics class says,
you know, you elect a president and they do stuff
for you. All right, test that out. What doesn't work? Right,
it really doesn't work. They fortify an election, right, kick
him out, try to send him to jail. It's okay,
I have another chance. So we've established seemingly that simply,
you know, getting a president through the door doesn't do anything.
So if we assume that's still possible to reform this thing,
what would you do. Well, you know, you'd want some
sort of agency that you control, both on the law
enforcement and also on the budget side, to go in
with a hatchet right to smash as much of this
stuff as possible. And largely it seems as if that
has been a failure. So it looks as if, quite literally,
there is no Reformings gave it a good shot twice,
each with a different strategy, with upgraded levels of intensity, right,
trying harder and so at a certain point, right, it
seems as if there is no answer within this system.
And to go back to you know, Mitchell Right, I
saw a post from him today and it's funny I
sent him a text afterwards because this is something I've
experienced as well. Pete, no doubt you've seen the same
thing where he's saying, you know, the GOP has no
idea how upset young people are because these young guys
are looking at the exact data we've laid out and
see there's no reforming this. This needs to be smashed.
This needs to be broken apart and story when you
mentioned earlier home ownership is sort of having a stake
in society. That's a very real part of it as well.
You have a group of people with no steak, right,
nothing to lose, no ability to get in a position
where they would have something to lose, and are vast
or rather or fast approaching the realization that there's no
fixing this, that the system as it exists is unfixable
by design. The things that we view as bugs are
in fact features, and it will not allow those you know,
bugs to be patched out. It's a phenomenally unstable city.
Situation for the system to be it setting aside all
the kind of you know, financial management stuff, which is
you know, a conversation for another day. But again, right,
this is not a healthy entity.
Speaker 1: Well, for all the reasons we're laying out, it seems
really odd to me that the people who are buying into, oh,
things are getting better. Trump is out there doing things,
things are you know, things are turning around. Are the
people who know that nothing, that the march of history
has been going downward for a very long time when
it comes especially when it comes to the way we think,
and it's the guys who are really young who are
actually experiencing, you know, the horror of all that, who
are like, yeah, I mean you can't you can't fix this.
You got to do something, to do something else, you
got to tear it all down, you know. There they go, Oh,
why are they Why are they reading Franco? Why are
they read Why are these young guys reading the Austrian painter?
Because they realize something that people who you know, we're
protesting George W. Bush and the wharves you know, twenty
years ago and then protesting you know, we're we're went
lived through the housing crisis and then then live through
quantitative using one, two, and three, And now we're watching
all the prices go up. These are the people who
should know that, no, you don't fix this, You destroy it,
and trying to fix it is just going to make
things worse. You ever have a car that you keep
throwing money into and you keep you fix one thing
and the thing.
Speaker 2: Behind me fun of the jeep project.
Speaker 1: I'm making fun of your jeep project?
Speaker 3: Yes, are you making fun of the land Cruiser storm
he sold me?
Speaker 1: I'm also making fun of the Jaguar that I used
to own.
Speaker 3: Where you fix.
Speaker 1: One thing and the thing behind it breaks. You fix
one thing and the thing behind it breaks. You increase
the performance of you increase the performance of it, and
it starts to tear apart. You know, the suspension. You're
fixing these things that aren't supposed to be fixed. This
is supposed to be broken. It's supposed to be destroyed
and rebuilt. And it seems like the only people who
can figure that out are the people who are are
young and experiencing the worst of it right now, and
the people who are just like and the people who
are just like huffing copium and hopium like twenty four
to seven. And the people who are you know, panic in,
you know, who use terms like PanicIn and black pillar,
and you know, and also you know, just happen to
not ever counter signal a certain Middle Eastern quote unquote democracy.
They're either falling for it or they're in on it
and getting paid to promote this. And because I don't
see how these people who've lived through so much can
look at this and go, oh, yeah, that's how. That's
how you're gonna fix it. You're gonna fix it a
little bit at a time. Yeah, send ice in.
Speaker 2: I need to stock up on gold goats and guns
or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's you. Send ice in. Ice is going
to deport fifty million people. No, that's not the way
fifty million people are going to be deported. Fifty million
people get get deported when you self deport, when you
cause them to self deport, yep. And there's ways that
you do that, you know. And I know that this
is getting to be a tired meme, but it's incredible
that the only thing this fucking government doesn't has never
won its attax is remittances to another fucking country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone that someone that has to just stroke a
seventy thousand dollars tax check next week. I find it
very infuriating that all of these economies can have ten
percent of their total GDP be money siphoned out of
my country that I have to subsidize with tax money.
So they have to take my money because somebody else
gets to deport money out of the country. Oh and
they get to do it without any tax. The only
deportations that seem to be happening are the dollars being
deported out of my country to everywhere else that the
Deportation Administration doesn't really seem to give a fuck about.
Every major five hundred company is doing mass layoffs and
mass outsourcing at the same time as it's getting big
government contracts, and they get to come to the White
House and get a big pat on the back from
you know, the America first guy, the you know, every
single thing that's all of the savings, all of the
performance that is being chalked up to AI. The layoffs
have nothing to do with AI. Literally zero. Every single
major company in Fortune five hundred that has supposedly laid
off people because of performance of AI has outsourced at
least the same amount, in most cases more jobs and
the people they laid off. Here, it's just outsourcing, it's it.
So this administration is presiding over the largest outsourcing in
the history of fucking globalization since January last January, Like,
you can't buy a house and the administration is actively
sitting by while the largest outsourcing of American jobs happens.
So if you can't have a house, now you can't
have a job, why should anyone support this? Could literally
pick up the phone and say, the government will invest
investigate you for antitrust tomorrow unless you close down all
of your outsourcing and you hire people in America. We
don't care how much it costs, because however much it costs,
the finds that the Justice Department will begin to extract
from you will be twice as high.
Speaker 4: Do it.
Speaker 2: You would take a phone call. Is he that busy?
Is I ran taking up that much of his time? Venezuela, Greenland, whatever?
Actually he could do a conference call with like the
top twenty CEOs at once, tell twenty people at once,
and then by the end of the trading day all
the other CEOs will know what the fuck is up.
You can do it in one phone call.
Speaker 1: The Yeah. Something I was thinking about today is is
like I think, and I think deep down everybody knows
that things are really really bad, and they're choosing like
who they get their content from by how like like
how they feel deep down and how they're willing to
how they're willing to just just be realistic. So like,
I think the people who are realistic and know that,
you know, the only way to fix this and solve it,
or you know, listen is by tearing it all down,
listen to myself, listen and Jay listen to you know,
people in our sphere. And I think there's just a
lot of people who just can't. They aren't willing, they
haven't been willing to accept that fact yet. They don't
know that this system, this administrative state, that this can't
work anymore. They're scared, I mean this could, yeah, and
they're very scared. So they go to other people. The
people who you know, are trying to call out the
black you know, call out the black pillars, or the
people who are saying that you know Trump is you know,
you have no idea what Trump's doing behind the scenes,
and you know how much he's destroying and people in Europe.
I'm sorry, I don't think Trump is destroyed has has
helped to weaken Europe. I think Jerome Powell has helped
to week in Europe, and he didn't have Trump's help
for most of the time he was doing that. But
now you think that they're they're like on the same team.
I mean, maybe it's all k Fabe.
Speaker 2: His DOJ's investigating Powell as we speak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so it's like, okay, so.
Speaker 2: Oh, that must be a real big problem for the
Powell trusters, and that are also Plan trusters. I can
think of a couple of content creators that have boxed
themselves into that corner that may be a little awkward.
Speaker 1: Now, well, if you notice, what they've taken to doing
is attacking you and me. They're they're deflecting away from
the fact that their worlds are colliding and things are
becoming very contradictory in in the narratives that they're trying
to paint.
Speaker 2: H which I mean, that's really what it is. It's
a narrative. All of these are the play and trusters
are basically saying, like you are, you are basically going
against the narrative, all right, the you know, the America
is going to you know, collapse. You know, you know
the bricks fanboys, those guys get mad just as much
when you go against that other narrative. And really the
only people that are just kind of calling balls and strikes,
they're the ones kind of catching the heat. Like we
we wanted to like this administration just as much as
anybody else did. Right, we saw that there were factions,
and now we know which faction won and which faction lost.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were willing to give it a shot, but
it was you know, it's I've said this recently too,
Sam Hyde, was right after Charlie Kirk got shot, you
got two weeks to do something. You If Don Lemon
is not in a fuck in an orange jumpsuit in
a few days, you missed on this opportunity of what
happened in Minneapolis.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And really, when it comes down to it, January twentieth
or twenty first, I can't remember what day Inauguration Day
was last year. If within two weeks you didn't arrest
pretty much everybody who'd been in power in the last
twelve to sixteen years, if you didn't have if you
weren't turning buildings like the State Department building into an
into condos in DC. The State Department now is the
president and three advisors on zoom. That's what the State
Department should be talking to people in other countries on zoom.
If that didn't happen, you didn't do anything, and it's
not going to happen. It's not going to happen. A
little piece here, a little piece there. That's how far
gone this is. You either tear it all down on
day one and rebuild it and make sure that none
of the people who've touched it in the last sixteen
to twenty years. Whoever is responsible for this most recently,
is like they don't have a bank account anymore.
Speaker 2: They need to be in a campus quick or something.
Speaker 1: You're not even serious. You're it's over, it's now's it's
just you know. And then yep, here's one thing the
Trusters don't want to talk about the mid terms. I mean,
Laura Lumer, Larry Lumer is so upset about the midterms.
She's like, why are you don't even talk about like abortion?
You don't want to talk about abortion in a mid
term election year. Yeah, to which Buckley Carlson said, Larry's
not content with all the dead babies in Gaza, he'd
like to He'd like to kill even more here, fen monster.
I mean, it's the midterms are going to be a
bloodbath because people are people don't know the things we know.
They go off of instinct. They look at their receipt
after they've bought groceries, they look at their savings account,
they look at their you know, they look at their
credit card statements, and they're like, I mean, we know
those people of the are monsters, but you know, maybe
something will change financially if we vote for them. Now,
they weren't you gonna have, You're gonna have. You're gonna have.
Speaker 2: Every funds from buying houses, don't you know. Yeah, a
tweet not an executive order. He's not forcing them to divest, right,
so they're still going to own all the ones that
they own. That's if somehow magically the tweet turns into policy,
which it hasn't.
Speaker 1: Well, even if you do sign an executive order, you
have to enforce it. I mean, there are immigration laws
in this fucking country that they can't enforce.
Speaker 2: All of the deportations right have included the numbers of
the people that border patrol has turned away at the border.
So the big inflator, the big deportation numbers that we've
seen the last couple last six months have included the
numbers that the administration has turned away at the border.
They're counting those as deportations. Why would you do that
unless you're trying to hide something. Why are you busting
illegal immigrants right one at a time. Why aren't you
going after the employers. Why wouldn't you do that? That's
just common sense. Anybody that knows anything about this issue
knows that that's the very first thing that you'd have
to do. You have everify. E Verify is already on
the books. You can literally flip a switch. You would
even have to go and bust all these employers up themselves.
Like with people, you could do it remotely. E Verify
is on the books. The technology and the legislation already
is there. You could turn a switch and that would
be that. But he hasn't. And now he's telling us, well, actually,
I take it back. I actually want the I want
the well behaved illegals to stay here because it would
hurt companies. We don't give a fuck about companies. Companies
are hurting us. And one thing I do want to say, Pete,
is I think that people need to understand anybody talking
about the midterms or any of that, or any plan,
trust your period. The thing that blew up the plan,
even if there ever was one, was the Republicans themselves.
All Right, So let's say Donald Trump has the best intentions,
he actually wants to do all the things, and we're
all just wrong about about him. Well, he can't because
only ten percent or twenty percent of his appointees have
been confirmed. It's a year in, it's a year in,
and only twenty percent of the people are in their offices, right,
so that means eighty percent of the government is still
the Biden government. Well who's doing this, Oh, that's actually
Republican leaders in the House and in the Senate. So
they want you to both vote Republican, right, and you're
going to vote for this guy to do all these things,
And then the party that you just voted for turns
around and says, no, we're actually not going to do
any of those things. We think those things would be terrible,
So in fact, we're going to do the opposite. You
don't get to make any you don't get to have
any of your changes, thanks for voting for us. It's
actual Republican leaders keeping eighty percent of the government in
the hands of Joe Biden appointees blocking The reason why
you don't get to have Matt Gates as attorney gener
is remarkably the same reason. Right, Let's just say, well,
then let's say he just does it by executive order
because he can't actually fix any of these agencies. He
can't because his appointments won't get appointed. Well, then what happens.
Let's say he does it by executive order, and it
really this is to your point about like, oh, you
can change the law, but you can't even enforce it. Okay,
you put out an executive order saying that this agency
you don't control, who you don't get to put your
people in, has to do X, Y and Z. Well,
now a judge from Zimbabwe who got her citizenship three
years ago and never renounced her other citizenships. Miss Zimbabwe says, no,
you don't get to have that either. Okay, So if
I vote and the party that I vote for can say, oh,
we're not going to do any of those things that
you want, and then a foreign, foreign or domestic it
really doesn't matter right, then a judge can say, oh, no,
you don't actually get to have any of those things either.
A right like you may know this, like I funded
a company that was involved in regulatory technology, and a
big part of that company got basically put on hold
because for the very first time in history, a federal
district court judge in Texas passed an injunction for the
entire nation. Right, so basically passed a nationwide and basically
put put down on a nationwide injunction. So a guy
in Texas is now saying he gets to tell everyone
in every other state how they get to interact with
the federal government. And the Supreme Court struck it down right,
said that this is this is not how things are
supposed to work, and then set precedent for it. And
that was a year before Donald Trump got elected. So
all of these, uh, all of these judges basically passing
all these injunctions, you know, the ones that we're making
fun of right now, this judge or that judge basically
gets to you know, basically gets to stop what the
president's doing at a national level. There was already Supreme Court,
the Supreme Court already ruled that that's not how shit
works before Donald Trump even got elected. So not only
is the law is already on the books that they
refused to enforce, the judicial precedents are on the books, right,
So like the judges are basically going against the Supreme
Court in every single one of these and yet Donald
Trump does nothing. The law has been on Donald Trump's
side since before he got in office. So what's the
fucking problem.
Speaker 1: Mister Burden? Stormy and I have been uh been black
pilling over here, you know, because you know, as somebody
said on Twitter, you know, Stormy and I are just
washed up. So we should just step aside and stop talking. Maybe,
uh maybe Burden can come in.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, let's not dismiss that criticism out of hand.
Speaker 5: Uh, but in all seriousness, right, I think this comes
back to this core question of can this system be reformed?
Speaker 3: And in my mind, the answer that is no. We
gave it two shots, really good shots, and it's just
not possible. So it seems as if we can take
that off the mental landscape. Sure, there's better or worse,
there's situations which will be more or less unpleasant for us,
but we're not fixing this at the ballot box, right,
and sure we knew that, right, some of that knew
that some of us, you know, we're more you know,
elitists than others. And we can act very smoke about
that if we want. But fundamentally, this needs to get fixed.
And if it cannot be fixed within the system, it
will be fixed from without. And that comes in two forms,
which is, either someone from another country comes in and
sets up a system, right, you get conquered. That's what
happens to empires, what happens to nations, or there is
a show we say, dramatic reorganization again, something with a
lot of historical precedents to it. And so I think
there's this urge to give into the blackpill that nothing
ever matters, right, that this is an unsolvable problem. That's
not the case, right, These things can be fixed. Many
of these issues are seemingly inconsequential. Right, the idea that
you should just allow people to take money out of
your country and ship it elsewhere, like you can just
say no to that. Apparently the system as it exists cannot.
And so that's the state of play, right, Trump, Orange
Man isn't going to fix this, sorry, but it still
needs to be fixed, right, we live here, we have
a connection to this country, and so chastize elsewhere. I guess.
Speaker 2: I'd like to talk about that. I think, debating whether
or not they're going to blow up the Republican Party.
I think, I mean to our own point is we
already know the answer that they blew up the Republican
Party when they didn't affirm us. They didn't confirm a
single one of the appointees right where they're basically saying like, no,
you don't get any of the changes Senate Republicans or
as of right this very minute, making sure refugees like
those lovely fellows in Minnesota from Somalia, they're making sure
that they get a fresh nine billion dollars in leering
center dollars. It's just it wasn't going to work. It
wasn't So what comes next?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: This is I can I think where the blackpill people
get it incorrect and the people that say that we
or the Black pil people are really just retarded. They
don't know anything. They think that politics can only exist
as it exists now in front of them. Right, So
I think what would be very very useful I think
to you know, yes, the country, but more importantly in
our spheres because of how culturally dominant it is. Is
what really has to come out of it is what
comes next. I think we I mean, we're all fans
of Austrian painter, and I think he basically arrived at
a similar conclusion that you need a cultural movement. Right.
I was having a conversation with a friend. We were
talking about how terrible like European fashion and European culture
has gotten because of the not only the importation of people,
but the exportation of you know, cultural property, intellectual property,
right like Dior uh Chanel, these are like these are
pieces of France and Parisian cultural capital and the fact
that they're bought by a Chinese private equity firm and
basically put out NonStop you know slop and have been
destroyed the same thing with Ferrari, like it like it's
it's all just basically out, you know, sold off to
faceless multinational either pools of capital or multinational corporations.
Speaker 4: And in a.
Speaker 2: Previous time the elites would have rebelled against it, right,
Like if you were to sell your company, if you
were to sell a prestigious fashion brand that is representative
of like France, cultural power to a Chinese conglomerate, you
would face social repercussions. Like right now, none of the
elites in France like it that Ching Chong Chung owns
d or or whatever, or name another Parisian fashion brand,
doesn't really matter, but they do not possess the language
to express their displeasure in it. There isn't any cultural
touchstones where they can say this is disgusting and you
are disgusting for participating in it. Fuck you, you don't
get to come to our parties anymore. Fuck you, you
don't get invited to things anymore. Right penalty is that
these type of people can understand and that you know,
kind of hit them where it hurts because they desperately
need to basically be part of that club. And the
fact that we don't. Mechanism does not exist for our
elites to even shame other elites is a big problem
right right now, most of the Parisian rich people think
it's fucking gross, but they can't say anything because individualism says,
if something's yours, you can sell it to whoever you
want to. One pool of capital is as good as
any other. A Chinese guy is just as good of
an owner as a French guy, there's no language for
them to say, are you fucking retarded? This matters to
us specifically more than it could ever matter to a
Chinese person. A Chinese person is actually incapable of coming
up with a dollar amount that such cultural cachet is worth.
They're not physically worthy of operating this, And I think
that's going to be a hard slog. It will become
easier as things get worse, which I think I'm afraid
they will. But I think without a mass cultural movement,
any political changes impossible now, and I think and I
think Trump actually showed that it's possible.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump did the mass cultural movement part of the
political sorry, part of the the two pointed strategy, but
he didn't do the elite vanguard side. Hitler says, basically,
this has to be done two things at the same time.
It has to be a dedicated vanguard and a mass
cultural movement. And Donald Trump nailed the cultural movement the
first time in twenty sixteen. But when he got in
and just like now, there was no vanguard of loyalists
that was able to just take things over, and he
didn't have the cultural cachet he did in twenty sixteen
to do the rampant type of changes that Pete is
talking about, right, State Department just needs to be fucking closed,
needs to be shot up, right, boarded off and run
off zoom. And now that he's basically running from you know,
L to L, the type of political cachet that he
has is diminished to a point where he couldn't if
he did suddenly realize this, he lost the political capital
to do it right. He can't start just basically doing
the type of moves that we would need him to
do for this thing to stay afloat. So I think
there needs to be a cultural way that younger people
can basically very visibly disengage. Right. They're having it now
in the UK. They're starting to realize it, at least
the Ministry of Defenses. Right, they're starting to insert into
news media that like, oh, if UK citizens were because
of the threat of Russia dodging a draft, right and
not and not, but participating in a draft would come
with extreme extreme penalties. It will be really bad for
you if you don't, If you don't basically come fight
for us, white boy, because Russia is right around the corner, right,
the British government is legitimately very concerned that, since their
intent on starting a war, that the vast majority of
young people will simply laugh as London catches cruise missile
after cruise missile and refuses to and they will refuse
to participate. The reason why tim Walls didn't call the
National Guard to fight back against Ice is because, at
least according to internal communications of the tim Walls government,
they were almost certain that the National Guard would have
sided with Ice against them. Mark from Rasmussen is write
about the level of dissatisfaction in young people in America.
I think we need to give them the language to
express it. It'll be ugly, it'll be vulgar, and it'll
make the boomers really fucking uncomfortable. But I think unless
we give them the ways to communicate it forcefully and assertively,
the only other ways that they're going to be able
to communicate it will be violently and at a point
where things have already progressed past a point of no return.
So I think that not only do we have to
create a cultural environment where this can be expressed, we
need to do it fucking quickly before twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that the The problem is one of
the biggest problems is that, you know, we always said
that boomers believe everything they see on TV. The classic,
the classic tweet by what's his name, Corey Mahler. Never forget,
when you're arguing with a leftist or a boomer, you're
actually arguing with the TV, and TV can't hear what
it does not care. So even if the boomer gets
away from TV and gets away from like regime media,
they actually believe when Trump says, I'm signing this executive
order and this is going to be done. But then
it can't be done, so they go back to, you know,
trusting the plan that oh oh, now, now corporations aren't
going to be able to corporate any are not going
to be able to buy houses. Oh that's awesome, that's awesome.
Oh oh, there is no more communism in Venezuela. That's awesome.
That's awesome. Yeah. Right. You can change the political climate,
but you can't change them. You can't change and it's
not only the Boomers, it's most people, you know, which
is why really considering even considering them is kind of
fool is foolish. It's why you need a small, organized
group that's well funded that makes change because you can't
trust in the average person. The average person doesn't have
the intellect nor the will to do the things that
needs to be done. They need to be told what
to do. They need to be told what to believe,
and they need to be told that this is the
way it's going to be from now on. And you know,
your life is going to be better for you if
you if we do it this way. And if it's
told in a way, if it's told in a way
by people that they you know, if it's told in
a way that they believe that they're you know, they
that somehow they believe it, well, then you know they'll
get out of the way and they'll stop propping up
the other thing. They honestly want things to change. The
problem is is they're putting their faith in people who
aren't going to change them. And the only question now
is is how, who and how is that going to
be changed? And those are answers that at this point
are yeah, best discussed by people off the internet.
Speaker 3: Well said Pete. Unfortunately, gents, I'm gonna have to leave.
I have an interview very soon. But thank y'all so
much for having me against Stormy. Pete, it was great
talking to you. Talk to you guys like that.
Speaker 1: Well, well, Jay, do do plugs before you leave, because
that's really important.
Speaker 3: Fine, fine, uh to My primary output is the Jay
Burden Show. You can find me on Apple, Spotify, YouTube,
multiple conversations with both of these guys. You can also
find me on The Inquisition every once in a while.
And again, Pete, thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 1: Of course, thank you, Jay. Take care of yourself.
Speaker 4: See y'all.
Speaker 1: All right, Stormy. I was hoping I was hoping that
that mister Burden would stay around because and I was
hoping that he was going to be the one who
would drive us into you know, white pill territory. But
it seems that mister Burdon agrees with us.
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily disagree that there's a a big white
pill in this. I really don't.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean, it's a what we understand that
there is a white pill in this, and we understand
that it's not black pilling. It's only black pilling to
people who aren't serious people. But they're either not serious people,
they're not serious thinkers, or they're being paid and they're
there if they were to take a different route and
to change their mind, it would affect their income. I
have done that so many times, where I've changed my
mind about something and saw something in a different way
and started talking about it, and then watch the subscribers
leave if my income go down, I just don't even
think about it anymore. I mean, fuck it. I'm just
going to be who I am, and if people don't
want to subscribe on substack or I don't care, I
don't care. I'm just going to say what's on my mind.
I'm going to say how I see things, and if
I'm wrong about it, maya kulpa and I'll you know,
here's the thing people don't understand. I think you and
I want Trump to do and to succeed in the
things that he has talked about and the people around
him have talked about. We just don't see it happening
because he hasn't set up the mechanism and the he
hasn't set up the team. He hasn't set up the
force that would be needed to do this. We want
him to succeed. We wanted him to be who we
wanted him to be. But now it's but now it's
obvious that I mean, I mean, if they lose the
mid terms, which I'm they're almost certainly going to, it's
going to be two years of impeaching Trump.
Speaker 2: Yep. And also, like historically, the party that comes to
power in a.
Speaker 6: Presidential election, right is usually always the party that loses
the fucking subsequent midterms Historically, like that history, Donald Trump
was going to have a rough rough time in the midterms.
Speaker 2: Based on like just the electoral history of the last
one hundred years, right, So us saying that Donald Trump
is likely going to lose the midterms is just historical analysis.
It could have been Kamala Harris in the fucking White
House and she would have probably lost the midterms, because
that's usually how it goes.
Speaker 1: Right, And then the people and then and then the
people who you know, were like, who wish Kamala Harris
would have won? Because oh oh people, people were starting
to check out of the system, and now Trump's brought
him back into the system. People weren't checking out of
the system. I mean a nice I mean, that's a
good story, bro, But they weren't checking out of the system,
you know, and they'd be upset because because Republicans were
going to We're going to take the midterms and be like, no, no,
these same people, they don't understand it's not it's the
fucking system yep.
Speaker 2: And the problem with the problem with our country versus
all the other historicals, right, Like why let's say a
hypothetical organized you know, coup or regime change you know
would work in all these other countries is because power
is descent, is centralized, and usually just the capital city.
It's all just you know, a handful of people and
maybe twenty city blocks. But if you could basically blow
DC off the face of the map, and you would
not destroy the US government, wouldn't destroy the regime. It
would just continue to people.
Speaker 1: People call, people want to talk about revolution all the time,
and it's like, first, where do you go? Don't be retarded?
Second of all, what's what's the head of the snake?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly where do you even got? It's it's diffused
to a point where it's become synonymous. Is power in
the building of the Congress? Know who's the what is who?
Who works there? Well, congressmen and senators? Well, are they
the ones writing the laws? No lobbyists do? Well? Who
tells the lobbyists what to do literally every like every
corporate Like you would have to invade every corporate head
you have to seize every corporate headquarters, you know, every
state capital. Like the problem of a federal lize system
actually means that things like we see in other countries
that a lot of people you know, base their political
thinking on, doesn't work here. And this is why I
think it has to be a cultural revolution to a
really significant extent, right, Like it needs to be culturally
expressed that a certain subset of the population, white guys
below the age of fifty are done. We're out, and
not just you know, hypothetically, but like we're not funding
this anymore because who funds the system we do, who
fights in the wars we do, who enforces the governance
we do? Right, it's not a bunch of You can't
h one be the national Guard. You can't h one
be the police force, even though some major cities have tried.
You just can't, I think, until you basically get cultural
revolt from I mean, I wish it wasn't so crude
as just white guys under fifty, but that's really what
it has to be. And I don't think we're actually
that far off if you look at guys like Tucker
and his brother, I mean, even old krusty Steve Bannon
is basically saying like, well, why would I pay taxes
to this? Why would I participate in this? Most importantly,
why should my kids? Like I don't want to have
my kids living with me at fifty or at forty.
And the opposition to this dies more and more every day.
Every year there's seven percent less boomers than there was
the year before. So pretty soon it's just going to
be guys like you know, white guys under fifty. Until
there is an actual racial consciousness, I think we're in
big trouble because once you have a racial consciousness, elector
politics doesn't matter. There is no more left or right.
Is this good for white people? Is this bad for
white people? Okay, well then we're doing this. Oh but
that's socialist. Like all the political left and right bullshit
only matters in a homogeneous population. If it's a multiracial
population that you don't have left and right politics anymore.
You just have racial politics. That's it. It seems the
young guys, like the guys in their twenties, and a
lot of guys in their thirties, and actually some of
the guys in their forties I talked to, both men
and women have started thinking about things racially at a
certain number, Like we're talking about you're talking about with
the boomers, right, it doesn't matter what you try and
tell them. They are basically controlled by popular culture. Their
opinions are just popular cultural opinions that are basically told
to them.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: That is always going to be a large subset of
the population at all age groups. So until you're the
one making the culture, you basically have a large subset
of the nation being automatons that somebody else has the
remote to. Until you have the remote to the automatons,
you're not going to have any type of clean political change.
You only can have the messy kind. That's not a
white pill, you as shit, Sorry my pad.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's you know, culture is downstream from race. Yeah,
that's what That's what it comes to.
Speaker 2: Well, in George floyd Land, they were just saying, like,
we need to awaken black racial consciousness so they could
put it to work. We need to do the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think more and more people are starting to
talk about that, and you know it's going to take
a you know, leadership class, to talk to, you know,
an elite class, an elite cadre, to really start pushing
that forward. It's going to take money. I was listening
to young mister Burden and Dave the Distributist. They have
an episode coming out. It's not public yet, but you know,
I subscribed to mister Burden, so I've already listened to it.
And David's Mister Distributists made a good, good point. He said,
you know, when when all these things were being defunded
by us A, I d you knew that it wasn't
this wasn't serious because that money should have been earmarked
to send to pro white, pro America, you know, pro
heritage American groups so that they could get to work.
The right doesn't know how to do patronage the you know,
I mean the right, I mean, huh in many cases
the right, but the left just you know, you have
leftists like what's the guy from Linkedink.
Speaker 2: Ten percent of fucking the US economy is people that
work in inngos.
Speaker 1: Reid Hoffman gives money to anyone, anyone who's a revolutionary.
He funnels money today. He's one of the biggest enemies
to uh to Heritage America that's on the planet right now.
They'll give money to anybody who hates Heritage Americans. Yet
there are people with a lot of money on our
side who they are. I guess that they at this
point just are looking for a return on investment. And
I don't know what that means. Is that monetary or
is it culturally, because you can start to build a
you know, a separate culture, the kind of culture you're
talking about, if you can build organizations and if you
can if you have kind of money to avoid lawfare.
But that's not I guess nobody's hurting enough yet, or
they just really don't care, or as like you said,
maybe a lot of these people are just going to
go down with the GOP and yeah, do what do
what they did, do what they did in Virginia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like the strategy of taking down the GOP,
you know, only works if the people you're using the
strategy against stay in the GOP, right, But if everybody
I'm talking at a voter level did what Marjorie Taylor
Green did, like no, fuck you people, then it doesn't work.
If you say no, it's actually you guys that have
basically made this unviable vehicle. You guys can have it.
I don't think I don't think that we need to
do politics the same way that they do. I also
I don't even actually think that when it comes to funding,
because of the people involved, right, like the fact that
it is in all of our best interest, you could
probably have just as much impact or more with far
less money, but you need some, right Like, basically they're
it takes so much more energy and capital to push something,
you know, against people's own self interest, against people's own nature.
But when you're going with the current, it takes a
lot less, right Like, just think of like let's just
we'll use like elections and campaign dollars for instance, Right,
all campaign dollars do, all campaign donations. All Miriam Adelson
does is she just buys ads. The reason that Republicans
take her money is so they have money to campaign
because for a very long time, American politics has basically
been about who has the most money, who is spending
the most money. The reason why things have been going
blue for such a long time is because the Democrats
always spent more money. Democrat donors always donated more money.
Where does that money go? It goes into ads. Ads
for who the boomers that watch TV. There's less and
less of those every day. No Internet native person is
swayed by ads. Nobody even looks at them. They care
like you will do far more damage ratio ing vivet
Ramaswami than he will. He can ever spend campaign dollars.
So it's very very cheap for us to make impacts,
and it's very very expensive for them. So I mean
the guys in our we're call them belief system. Maybe
they're not like in our thing, guys that are spiritually
where we are. We don't need all of your money.
We just need a small amount of it from a
couple of you. Because nobody in the country actually wants
to be replaced. Nobody wants like these things are incredibly unpopular.
This is why they have to rig the fucking voting
laws almost immediately. If you thought a majority of people
agree with you, you wouldn't have to rig shit. I think
this is going to be solving the several problems at once,
and I don't think any of those problems are solved
by plan trusting. I think these candidates and these people
in political office need to be told every waking. Second,
how unpopular their actions are. I mean, the one thing
that the left is really good at is fucking organizing,
getting people's faced. People on the right just can't be bothered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny when we do episodes like this or
have conversations. I can always tell the people who have
no idea what they're what we're doing, because the first
question that they'll comment, who is this for? Who's this
conversation for? Well, obviously if you're asking that question, it
wasn't for you, and the fact that you were expecting
a conversation just for you, that's a problem. Probably not
on the team, But yeah, I mean, it's it's gotten
to the point where what if people really understand go
back and listen to the beginning of this and understand
what happened in Virginia this week and how the only
way that you can explain it if you're the GOP
is that you did it on purpose. Then you'll understand
that there is no what Donald Trump is doing is
not going to solve this problem. You know, Virginia just
basically you have a lived, hardreak.
Speaker 2: Now and from what we heard from people in Virginia politics,
not only was this not an accident, but other well
way more qualified candidates tried to step up and were
basically told their political future would be ruined unless they
sat down, and that was by GOP leadership. So it's
not an accident that Jamaican aunt Jemima was the governatorial
candidate put on by the Republicans. It wasn't because there
was no one else, or that she was the lieutenant
governor and the most likely successor to Youngkin the Republican
party apparatus. I don't know whether it was national. I
think it was basically told anybody else that wanted to
step that was trying to step up far more qualified candidates,
that their political careers would be crushed if they didn't
bow out and shut up. So it's not even a hypothesis, bro,
Like you're spot on when you say that this is
one hundred percent deliberate.
Speaker 1: And you know, when does it come to your state?
Speaker 2: Mm?
Speaker 1: Because that's what you're that's what you're looking at.
Speaker 2: That was a red state, it turned permanent blue in
what three years? Yeah, Texas would be that.
Speaker 1: I mean, and it had problems before and you know,
but I think that that Jay did a good job
on a recent episode of his podcast, A Camera what
it was, but saying that the fact that Youngkin got
elected was kind of probably an accident. It just so
happened that you had the Laddin County stuff and you
had there were it got people to the polls who
wouldn't normally, you know, wouldn't normally have even really cared
about a good innatorial election. But now, yeah, I mean,
it's it's exactly where. It's exactly where they wanted it
to be. It's where the regime wanted it to be,
this regime that's been in charge for one hundred years,
and it is obvious that that's where the GOP wants
it to be. We've over and over and over again,
conservatives are not your friend. The GOP is not your friend.
Thinking that Donald Trump was going to go in there
and change the GOP was ludicrous. The system needed to
be torn down and really.
Speaker 2: All his appointees.
Speaker 1: The one thing that could have that could have signaled,
that should have signaled that maybe maybe something huge was
happening was Doge and Doze was the first thing that
was attacked and abandoned. When that happened, you had to
know nothing's changing. Now you have you know, the people
that we talked about earlier who are stuck in this
you know thing where they're like, you got to trust
a plan, bro, Trump's out there. But also Trump is
attacking their guy, Jerme Powell. They're looking at all this
foreign policy stuff that Trump going to the World Economic
Orum and things that are coming out of Trump's mouth,
and things that are being done internationally, and that's that's
that's where their focus is. Their focus is the enemy.
Is that enemy over there? And Trump seems to be
attacking that enemy over the city of London. Well, let's
just use that as an example. I'm just pulling that
out of my ass. Trump's attacking them. Okay, what about Virginia?
What about Minnesota? What about California? What about Sexas, what
about Florida? I mean, this is literally like having a
foreign policy of going to war in other countries while
your country's burning down.
Speaker 2: And he ran on anti foreign interventionism of any type.
He campaigned on ending the Ukraine War, getting out of NATO.
Now he's NATO's friend, and he's Vladimir Putin's enemy or whatever,
it doesn't matter, right, he cares more about Iranian protesters
than Americans, right, he cares about more about Iranian protesters
free speech, but not Peter Brimelow's. He cares more about
Iranian protesters free speech, all right, than anyone in the
state of Florida or all of those kids on campus. Right.
That white girl that literally had the only arrest Pam
Bond He's ever made was that poor white girl that
yelled at that Zionist in a college, right, the full
force of the US government came down on her. I do.
Speaker 1: Well, she arrested two people from the church thing, and
then the obvious fed who was running the whole thing,
the white guy, the white guy who was who you know,
it looks like a gun tuber, Yeah, who will probably
be released because I mean it's I think the guy
is just an op There's Don Lemony. Oh no, Don
Lemon's not going to jail. No, that's not gonna happen.
Don Lemon is part of the machine.
Speaker 2: Yep. Like he hasn't made it safe for like it
is as illegal, say, to have our opinions now as
it was under Biden, Right, Like I personally, you can
have two theories. One is that Trump doesn't care and
it's all kind of cynical, right, or that it's not
cynical and he actually is in charge. If he is
in charge and is not basically being let around by
the note, then the man is too old to understand
what time it is. The man holding up all of
his appointments in the Senate is ninety. Donald Trump is eighty.
What fucking eighty year old knows about anything going on
in this country right now? None? Like, honestly, it's not.
It shouldn't surprise anyone that the system is irreformable. Everyone
in it is fucking over sixty. How could any of
them possibly know what's going on? Right? Just like Corey Maler,
Just like that Corey Moller tweet says, right like, oh well,
you can't argue with the boomers incapable of them to
understand things like they physically can't get it. Okay? Are
the boomers an elected office somehow immune from this? If
the plan trusting types, the types that say I'm an
asset for the city of London, or I'm an anti
American Chinese agent or whatever, if they think.
Speaker 1: That, but that is, let me answer, let me interrupt you.
You said that, Keep the thought, Keep the thought. You're
being accused of being an asset for the City of
London and they say that an ironically. But then when
you say, well, this person's obviously being paid by Israel
and a pack and everything like that, they're like, why
are you talking about? You know, oh, this conspiracy theory.
Israel lives rent free in your head. City of London
doesn't live rent free in your head?
Speaker 2: Yeah, how much do I talk about them? Come on,
what's more likely somebody who makes all of their money
from getting people to believe their narratives on the internet,
or someone that not only doesn't make any money doing
any of this, but has only things to lose from
doing it, because unlike saying things are the City of
London having my Israel conspiracies rent free in my head?
Well not just in my head, they're coming out of
my mouth, and that has professional costs and risks and
actual bad things can happen to me.
Speaker 1: I asked once, whoever got canceled for criticizing the city
of London or talking about the city of London.
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln response, you got that was a real answer.
I can look it up.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what we're dealing with.
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting, you know how, like the left
can only think of things in Marvel movies. I actually
think a large portion of the people that think that
they're engaging in politics from the right, I think they're
no different right like the one like the reason why
you can't have you can't help but trust the plan
is because there needs to be a good guy and
he needs to be winning in the end, and everything
needs to be okay. Because if Trump fixes everything, the
superhero defeats the bad guy, none of the people of
you know, Gotham City or whatever have to do anything
right the superhero fixed it all. They don't have to
do anything. And also, nothing scary is going to happen.
There's no hardship to be faced. Nothing is basically asked
of them. Where Like if you didn't believe in this,
you would be a profectly worried, and you'd be a
hell of a lot more solemn about what's coming down
the pike because you would know that it's going to
require a tremendous amount of sacrifice from you personally, that
the only thing that's going to fix anything is sacrifice
from you personally. These plan trusters are just basically spiritual boomers.
Most of them are boomers. They want to be told
the nice story and they want to get all the
things without having to do anything for it. They just
wanted to be taken care of for them. Well, look,
how well that's got us. Why would your plan trusting
be any different? When have you ever in the last
three of the last hundred years just had everything work
out for you without having to do anything for it.
When has it ever worked out in history? Well, like
Donald Trump cares about you personally, the guy.
Speaker 1: It's truly the de radicalization methods that people warned about. Oh,
if Donald Trump gets elected, people on the right are
going to be de radicalized. These you know, and that
never happens to any of us, even though we know
we preferred Trump over over Harris. But I mean, these
are the people who are actually pushing that and are
actually accomplishing it. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: It's what the Soviets did. The Soviets would have been
crushed overnight. Right, They're incredibly unpopular, the Bolsheviks incredibly unpopular,
and they basically had no support outside of Moscow. So
how did they How did they bring on under heel
a place so big as the fucking country of Russia
occupies eight motherfucking time zones. How is this possible? Because
there is a trillion more peasants that were armed, most
of them armed. You had to be armed living out
in the fucking Siberian wilderness. How is it that a
small amount of Bolsheviks centered in Moscow took over the
whole country. Well, because they first took over the newspapers,
and they would publish story after story after story about
this miraculous white Army general that was just rolling over
the Red Armies, just victory after victory after victory, right,
the reds on the run here, Red's on the run there,
until one day the Red Army would roll into your
village and he'd be like, wait, how the fuck are
you here? You guys are defeated already. You guys have
been pushed back everywhere. They created this white Army hero,
this white Army general, and told the story of victory
after victory after victory because they knew it was the
only thing that would keep people at their homes in
their seats, because why do anything. This Red Army general
or this white army general's got everything all stitched up.
He's taking care of all the bad guys for you,
nothing to worry about. You're all set. Those poor stupid Reds.
They're getting clobbered everywhere, left, right and center, and you
flip from page after page of news article after news
article about these victories until one day there's a knock
at your door and there's a commissar and with an
NKVD attachment, and they're gonna line up you and your
family and shoot you and roll you into a ditch.
And you'll be surprised as fuck, because according to the newspaper,
those guys were finished, mopped up, no threat at all.
People stay at home. They didn't think that they had.
They were told they didn't have to do anything. They
had to trust the plan. This white army general taking
care of it for you. He's a hero. The bad
guys are getting clobbered, nothing to worry about. The Reds
actively put that out and for two years, this fake
story dragged on, This fake hero went on, you know,
swinging from victory to victory. The Reds pushed back, hanging
on by a thread. And that's how long it took
them to stitch up the country, every single village they
went into. Surprised as fuck. How could this be true.
How could you be here? How is this possible? You're
defeated already. Trust the plan is just Operation Trust. Trust
the plan is just Donald Trump instead of that white
Army general. Because they need, above all things, for you
to think that it's all taken care of, all right.
This is why both enemies and friends will promote this bullshit, right,
because the friendly people are soothed by it, right, They
don't want like they want this just as much as
you want this for someone to come and take care
of it all for you. Donald Trump's sorting it all out.
Don't worry. The future is not bleak in fact, all right,
it's American revival or a Golden Age two point zero.
You don't have to worry about any economic turmoil coming
your way because you're getting Golden Age, buddy, don't worry.
That's what it is. And I could be wrong, sure,
But if I'm wrong, then you've won already. I don't
think you feel like you've won. You wouldn't be worried,
you wouldn't be listening to Pete and I.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they know deep down that they haven't
won anything, and that they're literally at the planned trusting
stage where the operation trusting. Yeah, it's yeah, it's well,
I don't think there's anything else that we're going to
we're going to say that. I'll that'll add to this.
So yeah, yeah, man, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's silver.
Speaker 1: Silver just went over one hundred and three dollars an ounce.
It looks there is no breaks on Yeah, it looks
like there's no breaks on that.
Speaker 2: No, there's nothing because there's been no resistance passed like
seventy right, and now once like basically above it is
all air. Once you break to a new high and
there's no other basically barriers above it, it shoots up
very very fast. It can also come down very very fast.
But what you needed was a big psychological thing, right,
a psychologically like you can have price support lines and
you can have psychological support lines. This is why it
was a big deal that bitcoin broke one hundred thousand, right.
The number one hundred thousand didn't really mean anything, right,
There was actually more support at ninety two thousand or
ninety seven thousand, and there wasn't one hundred. But it's psychological.
Once it broke through one hundred thousand dollars, it broke
through a support line that existed only in people's heads. Right,
silver passing one hundred is the exact same thing, just
going the other direction. So it has a lot more
sticking power above one hundred than any technical indicator will show.
So I imagine things are gonna get really fucking interesting
because of the arbitrage that this opens up. What is
a what is silver certificates? Now? What is uh? What
is SLV.
Speaker 1: At SLV.
Speaker 4: Is ninety one ninety two?
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see what silver Shanghai?
Speaker 2: What is silver Shanghai price? Right now? Okay, this is
gonna be this is actually what I want to say. Okay,
Shanghai Metals Market silver price two A because Shanghai settles
in dollars or sorry, settles in physical rather okay about units. Oh,
don't make me do that. Ah, all right, you're gonna
give it to me in yen per kilogram, yen per
dollars per kilogram? Okay, how many real? Quick? Bear with me.
This will be worth it ounces in a kilogram? Thirty
five point two seven?
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 2: Okay, so we have thirty five seventy four? Bye it
buye thirty five point two seven. Yeah, it's over one
hundred on the Shanghai spot, that's interesting. And silvers at
ninety that's interesting. So that means that if you were
to buy a silver certificate, let's say, and all you
have to do is convert that silver certificate to physical,
you can take that physical, walk your ass to Shanghai
and get ten dollars more fifteen more, right, so one
silver ounce that is not really a huge motive to
do that. But if you do one hundred million dollars
worth of silver that extra fifteen percent, that's fifteen million
bucks just from taking your silver from here to there.
If you're doing a billion dollars, that's one hundred and
fifty million dollars for free, just removing your silver from
London to Shanghai. This is gonna if this spread WI
this spread already, if this was like a five dollars spread,
I would say this is a big problem. But a
fifteen dollars spread, that's enough motivation because like if it's
a five dollars spread, that's only enough motivation for people
that are basically megabanks, all right, I just people moving
billions and billions of dollars at ten dollars. You know, now,
this isn't arbitrage you know, but window that is large
enough for like investment banks, big guys. But at fifteen dollars,
this is now an opportunity for any fucking mid size
hedge fund. I mean, I think what the year to
date on the Nasdaq is what seventeen percent something like that?
Or sorry, p five hundreds up, but seventeen percent last year? Actually,
what was it? What did the SMP closed out up?
Because basically to parallel this, uh.
Speaker 1: SMP's up fifty seven percent year to date?
Speaker 2: What is it? What's the one year? Because yeah, the
base seven last seven, seven point nine to six.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait a minute, I'm sorry, all the year
to date is up point eight three percent one year
thirteen percent.
Speaker 2: Thirteen percent. Right, so just by moving silver from point
A to point b, you make more money in percentage
points then the SMP did all last year fifteen percent.
Especially if you borrow money, so you've got a billion dollars,
you can borrow another billion. Now you just made thirty percent,
So you borrow two billion plus your billion. Right now
you're making about fifteen plus fifteen fifteen forty five percent.
You see what I mean a little bit of leverage
and moving silver out of London in physical because Shanghai
settles in physical, right, in order to get those prices right,
the difference between one hundred and five or whatever it
is and ninety, you have to actually bring the fucking metal.
So that's exactly what people are going to start doing,
not people, but investment funds because now it's hugely profitable
and it's no risk, right, because that's just the difference
in how much it's worth over here for how much
it's over there. You don't need an investment thesis, you
don't need to worry about any countertraite like nothing. All
you have to do is move. This is going to
drain the London bullion market so fucking fast. Why would
anybody keep any metal there at all when just bringing
that metal to Shanghai means you get fifteen percent more
for free. I'd be borrowing money to buy more silver
just to bring it there. You could make what you
made all last year. You can make that in a trip, right,
like you know, buy your silver or you know, we've
got one hundred million dollars for this silver bet that
I'm gonna make. Okay, well, let me borrow another one
hundred million, because you're not worried about it. You're just
buying the metal, right, You're not actually worried about the
price of the metal. You're worried about the spread between
this exchange and that exchange, because if the price goes
down in silver, that just means the price goes down
correspondently in Hong Kong or sorry, in Shanghai, but the
spread between the two numbers is going to be the same.
Oh God, this is this. It's going to accelerate rapidly,
especially now that it's over one hundred.
Speaker 1: Breaks. This man, well, it's no breaks, no breaks on
that train.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not this the silver just keep on
going up that's exciting at all. But it's the people
that were stuck on the other side. Right. There's a
reason that silver sp sorry SLV kept on getting whacked, right,
Like it would shoot up and then it would just
get whacked in one big red candle, down ten percent
or down fifteen percent, something like that.
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 2: That's because there is a very large investment institution that
is somehow caught on the other side of this trade
getting short squeezed. Right, think of think game stop with
silver bullion instead. That's what's happening right now, and the
fucking Chinese silver market is basically turning that up on steroids.
There is a very large financial institution that is getting
its fucking face ripped off because they were the ones
trying to suppress the price of silver back down. I
think it's I have my bets on who it is,
but I wouldn't be surprised if it's HSBC or Deutsche Bank.
My money is on HSBC, at least that's what I've heard.
It's not JP Morgan. I mean, anybody that says it's
JP Morgan that's on the other side of this trade
is retarded. JP Morgan controls ninety five percent of the
entire precious metals bullion market. It can't get caught out
on the fucking wrong side of a trade because it
makes the market. But HSBC Hong Kong does not. Like
I don't know, man. I think in the next two
to three months, a lot of fucking things are gonna
break a lot, which may be interesting because the economic
catalyst may give us what the political catalysts seem to
not be able to. The only reason that things are
going to keep on tuggling along is because nothing else
has changed. But if other things start to change rapidly,
like let's say the economic situation, it changes the calculus involved, right,
Like you don't get Hitler without you know, with just
the degeneracy of Wymar, with just the prostitution, the pornography.
You only got Hitler because you had that plus the
economic like basically economic terror. I don't think just the
cultural destruction of America is enough. And I think this
is how you solve the other big problem because boomers
get to be comfy. But if the finances get fucked,
so does that comfort There is no benefit by staying
on the team, staying on the reservation. I think it's
the same thing with the UK and Europe. I don't think.
I think there's a lot more pain that has to happen.
Speaker 1: Let's leave it there and we'll pick it up again soon.
Maybe we'll pick it up on the Inquisition on on Monday, yeah, man,
and we'll have a trainfo then yeah, I'll wait left
you stop recording, Okay, all right, take care man, waiterby.
Thank you