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Speaker 2: I mean, I would take everything that came with the
Speaker 2: last really the last eleven and a half months or so, right,
Speaker 2: like the feeling of being back alive, caring again, having
Speaker 2: something to believe in, and then you know, obviously during
Speaker 2: the season getting results that made you feel, you know,
Speaker 2: made you feel as if it was actually working out
Speaker 2: the way you wanted, you were being brought back to
Speaker 2: life like that.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't trade that for anything.
Speaker 2: But there are times where it really hits you as
Speaker 2: far as the sadness that comes with this, right when
Speaker 2: it's all over and you lose in the first round
Speaker 2: the NAA tournament, especially when you're the first team to lose.
Speaker 2: Also when you feel like maybe you didn't deserve to
Speaker 2: be in a position to have to play a team
Speaker 2: like Creating in your first game, it just it just sucks.
Speaker 2: So again, I wouldn't trade it for what we previously had,
Speaker 2: But there are those moments where it hits you hard
Speaker 2: enough to where I think, okay, maybe life was better
Speaker 2: when we were dead. Maybe the inability to feel that
Speaker 2: pain that comes with it all. Being over in March
Speaker 2: was the better end of the deal. I mean, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that it is. I know that is
Speaker 2: that it's not the better end the deal. But there's
Speaker 2: none worse than losing in the tournament. And it's it's
Speaker 2: one thing for just you know, the casuals out there,
Speaker 2: those that that that really they love their team because
Speaker 2: it's their team, but they really prioritize football way more
Speaker 2: and basketball if it's uh, if it's good, cool, if not,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about our offensive line. Like those fans, I'm
Speaker 2: sure they don't like seeing their team lose. But for us,
Speaker 2: like we are not healthy, we're not well. This this
Speaker 2: means way more to us than it should this and
Speaker 2: again I wouldn't have it any other way. And the
Speaker 2: older I get, I guess maybe the more dare I say,
Speaker 2: mature I get, the more I realize.
Speaker 3: This isn't normal.
Speaker 2: This isn't this can't be the way I'm supposed to
Speaker 2: be living. Letting a basketball team that I don't and
Speaker 2: have never played for, impact my sanity, my emotions the.
Speaker 3: Way that it does. It's a beautiful thing, but it's
Speaker 3: also at times.
Speaker 2: A scary thing. But as as many of us have said,
Speaker 2: probably more times than we ever want to in the
Speaker 2: last I don't know, seven eight years. If it was
Speaker 2: gonna kill us, it would have already done it, right,
Speaker 2: we were gonna quit this, we would have already done
Speaker 2: it long ago.
Speaker 3: I mean, we haven't been in the tournament in six years.
Speaker 3: I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 2: I knew that, but i'd to hear that as much
Speaker 2: as I did this week kind of put it in
Speaker 2: perspective how.
Speaker 3: Long it has been for Louisville.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you've made me answer the question and
Speaker 2: give it some thought, I could have said, yeah, twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: you have six years ago. But like you know, I
Speaker 2: guess this run that we had with this team where
Speaker 2: we were alive again and good, it made me not
Speaker 2: think that it had been as long as it had been.
Speaker 2: Let's not talk about the scandals, right, I mean, like
Speaker 2: we've gone through it enough to where and look, when
Speaker 2: you say you know we're victims, you've gone through it.
Speaker 2: I mean you don't know what you're getting. There's no
Speaker 2: contract as a fan. You take what comes with it,
Speaker 2: good or bad, awful, great, whatever, Right, there's no way
Speaker 2: you know and I don't want to act like the
Speaker 2: university and the program have ultimately been victims.
Speaker 3: Players certainly have.
Speaker 2: But you know, obviously some of the stuff that Louisville
Speaker 2: was in trouble for, like regardless of what you agree
Speaker 2: on when it comes to punishment, like, some bad things happened,
Speaker 2: but like fans don't deserve that. We didn't sound off
Speaker 2: on some of that stuff. So if today is, you know,
Speaker 2: as bad as it is as far as what it
Speaker 2: makes you feel, if we can just avoid you know,
Speaker 2: more six year tournament droughts, we can sometime sooner or
Speaker 2: rather than later, break the drought of making the second weekend.
Speaker 2: And if we can avoid scandals or headlines about our
Speaker 2: program that involved sex, like that would be great. That
Speaker 2: even that's an improvement. Right, Like again, long story short,
Speaker 2: today sucked, But if we were ever gonna be numb
Speaker 2: for numb from it or quit it or realize we're
Speaker 2: not getting enough return on the emotional investment, right, we
Speaker 2: put a lot of emotion into this, and I've had
Speaker 2: way more sadness or empty feeling that I've had joy.
Speaker 2: Like if we were going to quit, we would have
Speaker 2: already done it. And I did get a lot of
Speaker 2: joy out of this team really did. And what I
Speaker 2: I mean, I do feel as if as I was
Speaker 2: trying to you know, get a get a grip, as
Speaker 2: they say, mentally, as the season was winding down, as
Speaker 2: we're getting closer to March, that kind of stuff. A
Speaker 2: lot of what I could sense was was you know,
Speaker 2: was was true. This team gave us everything they had.
Speaker 2: They weren out of gas. It played really seven guys
Speaker 2: thirty five minutes per game essentially, and they just got
Speaker 2: worn down. They were still waiting towards the end of
Speaker 2: the season, but they weren't as sharp. I mean Louisville
Speaker 2: in January. It's stills have been unknown. We'll never know,
Speaker 2: but I think that team, the way they were playing,
Speaker 2: they could have They could have They could have been
Speaker 2: a lot of teams. Also, the seating was inaccurate for
Speaker 2: Louisville based on what they did with the rest of
Speaker 2: the acc but not getting a win in better than
Speaker 2: Clemson at least gave the committee the chance to to
Speaker 2: put Louisville where they did and then claim it's because
Speaker 2: who have you beat? Right like and again, part of
Speaker 2: me says, well, you know, all you can do is
Speaker 2: play who you play and win. And that's true, but
Speaker 2: also you know, you did have chances. It's just, you know,
Speaker 2: to be Kentucky at roup, even at full strength, easier
Speaker 2: said than done. Same thing with Duke. I mean, Tennessee
Speaker 2: that was a mean, they're a great team. Also that
Speaker 2: was Louisville. Really that's the first time this group had
Speaker 2: ever even faced a team that challenged them in any way.
Speaker 2: But overall, the acc as a whole did hurt Louisville
Speaker 2: because it kept you from, you know, even getting opportunities
Speaker 2: to get wins that could have helped you avoid the
Speaker 2: eight line. But also it didn't you know, it didn't
Speaker 2: it didn't challenge you. And look, maybe the challenge would
Speaker 2: have been a reality check. I don't believe that it
Speaker 2: would have been to where we would have been in
Speaker 2: a position to where Louisville is. You know, I'll just
Speaker 2: say this as a college basketball lunatic, I hate everything
Speaker 2: about being in a league where you get no value
Speaker 2: for beating anybody and you only stand to really be
Speaker 2: dropped down multiple pegs with a potential loss. Like that's
Speaker 2: an existence that I'm not familiar with, and it sucks.
Speaker 2: I'm not blaming the acc for what happened today. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying like that was the ultimate, Like you know,
Speaker 2: there was benefit to it as well, because we won
Speaker 2: a lot of games and we were in a position
Speaker 2: coming off of the traumatic can he payne experience to
Speaker 2: where those wins that used to just be, hey, it's
Speaker 2: another night at the office kind of thing.
Speaker 3: We took great.
Speaker 2: Satisfaction, great joy in it because we hadn't had it
Speaker 2: in a while. But all in all, today just sucked.
Speaker 2: But I still love this group, and I think I
Speaker 2: realized an appreciation for something I never knew that I
Speaker 2: had and may never have known that I would have
Speaker 2: had had it not been for timing and circumstance, meaning
Speaker 2: Louisville being dead and then having a group coming in
Speaker 2: and having success as well as having a clear appreciation
Speaker 2: for being here. So it's over, and it's sad. Louisville
Speaker 2: loses today eighty nine to seventy five. Creighton was just better,
Speaker 2: and we've talked a lot about them as a team
Speaker 2: and what they did today.
Speaker 3: We can continue to do that.
Speaker 2: Obviously, we've been pretty call heavy today and if you
Speaker 2: guys want to give us a call, you can fillow
Speaker 2: two five seventy nine hundred is the number. Just quick,
Speaker 2: just some quick scores and then we'll let you guys here.
Speaker 2: I want you to specifically hear something Terrence Edwards said
Speaker 2: after the game, because I thought he answered a question
Speaker 2: just kind of talking about his experience at Louisville, which
Speaker 2: really just confirms what a lot of us could tell
Speaker 2: is that these guys man, this was this they were
Speaker 2: they were a specially group. But anyways, back to some
Speaker 2: scores from around the NAA tournament. Right now Clemson, Clemson
Speaker 2: is in trouble. Clemson is down thirteen to twenty nine.
Speaker 2: In fact, I'm sorry, thirteen to thirty one to McNee
Speaker 2: State with thirty seconds left in the first half. Clemson
Speaker 2: has thirteen points at halftime.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: Gross Auburn forty one thirty one. They have an early
Speaker 2: second half lead. The second half just started their up
Speaker 2: ten against Alabama State. This is one verse sixteen. I
Speaker 2: don't since an upset here, but clearly not a great
Speaker 2: look for an Auburn team that is playing an inferior
Speaker 2: opponent that they haven't played and maybe at any point
Speaker 2: this year, and they're coming off three or four losses.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're vulnerable. But if you were an
Speaker 2: Auburn fan hoping that today's today, you get right and
Speaker 2: you win by forty to remind you that you were
Speaker 2: a great team.
Speaker 3: But you know, you just played in the SEC.
Speaker 2: So far not so good because now Alabama State has
Speaker 2: counted thirty three forty one, so you know even you know,
Speaker 2: surviving advance obviously, but today's a day where if you
Speaker 2: wanted to doubt Auburn so far, there are some signs
Speaker 2: that maybe you know you were right not to say
Speaker 2: you should have predicted this, but they're getting scored on
Speaker 2: jan I Broom just turned it over. So anyways, Also
Speaker 2: VCU up eight to six early.
Speaker 3: In that one.
Speaker 2: I took VCU. In fact, I got him in the
Speaker 2: sweet sixteen. So yeah, I got them too. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: I actually took them to win this game money line
Speaker 2: in a bed just because I.
Speaker 4: I'd be I did too. You were talking that ball
Speaker 4: yesterday when we went off air. You're very high on VC.
Speaker 3: I talk a little ball. I could talk a little ball.
Speaker 5: It's almost like you know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes you know. I mean, I do feel like
Speaker 2: my assessment of the acc unfortunately was right because Louisville
Speaker 2: losing today, I don't think was because you know, today,
Speaker 2: really today didn't have a lot to do with the
Speaker 2: ACC as far so you played. I mean, you could
Speaker 2: make the claim that they didn't have anybody to challenge
Speaker 2: them to where they weren't as prepared, like that's that's
Speaker 2: the case. But like I like, Louisville's best win being
Speaker 2: Clemson doesn't mean that they're anything.
Speaker 3: Rather they're great, bad whatever.
Speaker 2: It just was a real eye opener for me because
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I'd never believe Clemson
Speaker 2: was that good, and.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: That was you know that that so far, the ACC
Speaker 2: not looking so good as far as the two teams
Speaker 2: that got in outside of Duke in Carolina, who of
Speaker 2: course had to use to play in game.
Speaker 5: Well, you know what is looking good your your sports
Speaker 5: betting account you hit last night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I uh, that's got that's gotta alleviate something, yep.
Speaker 2: And it's been and it's great. It's what's keeping me
Speaker 2: alive and interested in the tournament. And uh, you know,
Speaker 2: if anything, I'll chalk that up as another benefit from
Speaker 2: the awful experience is because I really had to lean
Speaker 2: into the whole betting thing when it comes to not
Speaker 2: having a team to cheer for in the tournament. And
Speaker 2: now my team's gone, and and you know, I had
Speaker 2: a fun season and now I can just turn shift
Speaker 2: turn strictly to you know, wagering. So anyways, real quick,
Speaker 2: we'll get well, we will get to the phone lines
Speaker 2: in just one second. But I do want you guys
Speaker 2: to hear this from Terrence said words, just because I.
Speaker 3: Believe that it it. It's worth hearing, for sure.
Speaker 2: But also I mean, I just think if you're somebody
Speaker 2: that that is like me, and if you're not, that's okay.
Speaker 2: We can all feel different. That's fine. Nobody can trust me.
Speaker 2: You can feel whatever way you want to feel, think
Speaker 2: whatever you want to think. But I didn't have any
Speaker 2: ability to be mad or disappointed today. I'm disappointed in
Speaker 2: the result, but not disappointed in this team or the staff.
Speaker 2: I just I appreciate everything about them. And today you know,
Speaker 2: wasn't their day.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't because they laid an egg or they
Speaker 3: were you know, complacent. I just think they were. They
Speaker 3: were added, they were on e and they played a
Speaker 3: team today that will clearly beat you.
Speaker 2: If that's the case, and they as far as the
Speaker 2: adversity this team hit today.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: This season they hit a lot of it, but they
Speaker 2: did hit something today that didn't happen this year, that
Speaker 2: a nineteen to four run go against them, which I
Speaker 2: think would make anybody shell shocked. And I you know,
Speaker 2: I think the announcers use that word as far as
Speaker 2: she you know, saying they were shell shocked, and maybe
Speaker 2: they were, but I think that would happen to a
Speaker 2: lot of teams. We haven't talked about it yet, but
Speaker 2: we'll get to Pat Kelsey's technical on the other side.
Speaker 2: But here's Terrence Edwards real quick here for those of
Speaker 2: you that haven't heard this. This was This was after
Speaker 2: the game him just asked kind of about this experience.
Speaker 3: Is one year at the University of Louisville.
Speaker 6: I can say this season is remembered for all the
Speaker 6: games combined, from from the beginning the adversity we faced
Speaker 6: early in the year with the losses and some of
Speaker 6: my key players go down in the in the year,
Speaker 6: and then and this team just rallied together and never
Speaker 6: had an excuse of anything. We went to practice, it
Speaker 6: was no excuse and it was the next man up mentality.
Speaker 6: I've never been a part of nothing like that. And
Speaker 6: and I'm walking away from this with a good attitude
Speaker 6: and the things that coach p K brought to me
Speaker 6: in my life, and I think it's gonna help me
Speaker 6: be a better father and and moving forward, I know
Speaker 6: I'm fine going into this pro thing because all the
Speaker 6: adversity I faced this year and and my life just
Speaker 6: gonna make me better.
Speaker 2: I mean that, that's that's exactly what I mean. Everything
Speaker 2: he said there, I mean I wouldn't have I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have been able to predict his answer. But I think
Speaker 2: the connection that you felt for this team despite them
Speaker 2: only being here one year, is because you could tell
Speaker 2: that they they had every opportunity to have excuses, they
Speaker 2: had excuses, legitimate excuses, but they don't. They didn't have any.
Speaker 2: There was no level of that even entering their brain.
Speaker 2: And you could tell you a Tumps forgot that they
Speaker 2: were missing Coren Johnson in case in Bryor.
Speaker 3: And I think it's.
Speaker 2: Because they, you know, they were just appreciabve to be
Speaker 2: here and they were locked in and we've had people
Speaker 2: around here using excuses when they really weren't any justifiable
Speaker 2: excuses to be in a position that we were in
Speaker 2: at that time. So love these guys. Hate that it's over.
Speaker 2: Back to the pone lines. Five x two, five seven one.
Speaker 2: Seventy nine hundred is the number. Let's welcome in, Dave, Dave,
Speaker 2: you're on Sports Talk seventy ninety.
Speaker 3: What's happening.
Speaker 7: Pat Kelsey? I really liked the gad But do you
Speaker 7: know that he now is zero five and the NCUBLEA
Speaker 7: tournament play. I mean, that can't a concern.
Speaker 2: But Dave, but Dave, Dave, Dave, and you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's not a good record. But you have to keep
Speaker 2: in mind when Pat Kelsey was going to the Ncublea
Speaker 2: tournament and losing, he was a fifteen seed or a
Speaker 2: fourteen seed or a thirteen seed playing top seed. So
Speaker 2: like the expectation for Pat Kelsey to win NCUBLEA tournament
Speaker 2: games at the schools he was at. I mean, you
Speaker 2: never want to lose, but like we're talking to him
Speaker 2: being twenty point underdogs in those games. So today, again
Speaker 2: he had his first tournament game where he was the
Speaker 2: better seed, he was the favorite, and he lost. But
Speaker 2: I don't look at any I think when you're coaching
Speaker 2: at that level, and I've said this before. A lot
Speaker 2: of these guys win a couple of games, get a
Speaker 2: new job, and they end up proving to be guys
Speaker 2: who benefited from a fluke run. Happens all the time,
Speaker 2: and yet coach programs still make the mistake of hiring
Speaker 2: those guys. I'm way more impressed with you if you're
Speaker 2: taking team to the dance every year because you have
Speaker 2: no margin for air. You have to win your conference
Speaker 2: tournament and regular season. I mean you have you don't
Speaker 2: have to win your regular season, but like you've got
Speaker 2: to only be good in your league, you got to
Speaker 2: win your tournament. So today again not a good not
Speaker 2: a good day for Louisville for sure, but the tournament
Speaker 2: losses for Kelsey don't care at all about just my opinion,
Speaker 2: and I'm actually happy that he's been there as many
Speaker 2: times as he has it both win through Ben Charleston.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well you make some great points, but thank you today.
Speaker 7: I thought they lost the game in the first half. Yeah,
Speaker 7: because the defense they just it seemed like they went
Speaker 7: they were shell shocked by all those screens and they
Speaker 7: weren't defending. I mean they didn't they really. I thought
Speaker 7: the defense got better in the in January and February.
Speaker 7: But you know, the last couple of games, like Duke
Speaker 7: in the second half and today the especially the first hand,
Speaker 7: but their defense just wasn't there.
Speaker 2: No, I know, you're right, Dave, the defense l flat
Speaker 2: and you mentioned them kind of here. Here's what I
Speaker 2: think happened all year, actually not all towards the end
Speaker 2: of the year, and then in the postseason, even against
Speaker 2: the teams you played in the ACC, is that when
Speaker 2: you watch enough of Louisville, you realize, you know, they've
Speaker 2: got some guys that are tough defenders, and if you
Speaker 2: just try to, like you know, dare them to stop you.
Speaker 2: That's a good recipe for Louisville because they've got some
Speaker 2: guys that are smart defenders that are physical. But if
Speaker 2: you get Louisville moving a lot defensively, that's where they're vulnerable.
Speaker 2: And today Creighton took advantage of that to where at
Speaker 2: times they were just kind of running all over the
Speaker 2: place because they weren't used to seeing as much movements
Speaker 2: as Creighton does in the half court.
Speaker 3: And that's that's a credit to Creighton. They're well coached, they.
Speaker 2: Run some really good stuff, and I think Louisville even
Speaker 2: at times, was prepared for a couple of the things
Speaker 2: they did, but they just they couldn't stop it. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Another thing, though, Nick, was that technical foul. Yeah, that
Speaker 7: was the that's the wrong time. I mean a year,
Speaker 7: We'll just I fuck that was I thought that was big.
Speaker 7: But anyway, it's been a great season. And you know
Speaker 7: Kenny Payne's excuse, he was dealt a bad hand. I
Speaker 7: have to left every time I think about it. But anyway, I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna thanks Dave. I appreciate the call. Let's get to
Speaker 3: a quick break.
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side and we'll talk
Speaker 2: about the technical I mean, I don't have any strong
Speaker 2: opinions on it. I don't want to see it as
Speaker 2: if I'm about to share something i've been I've been
Speaker 2: holding back. I mean, it wasn't ideal to get it.
Speaker 2: I think he got it when he wasn't expecting it,
Speaker 2: because it sounds like he I mean, it sounds like
Speaker 2: he probably felt like he maybe had free reign. I
Speaker 2: don't know because he I mean, what he got a
Speaker 2: technical for was technically being on the floor, not what
Speaker 2: he said. But I think it was a build up
Speaker 2: thing all right quick break, we'll come back on the
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Speaker 2: I do think our previous caller, who Dave who mentioned
Speaker 2: the Pat Kelsea technical because it's something that I don't
Speaker 2: think really had any true impact on the outcome of
Speaker 2: this game. And I don't really have any strong feelings
Speaker 2: on although you know I don't. I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 2: was his first technical of the season as as Louisville's
Speaker 2: head coach. And I don't know if the I mean,
Speaker 2: the call was terrible, and I don't really feel like
Speaker 2: this was a game where the I mean I do
Speaker 2: I mean again, this is just maybe me from the
Speaker 2: from the Louisville side of it. I do think there
Speaker 2: were times where they were getting the benefit of a
Speaker 2: bump where we weren't. But again, they they clearly the
Speaker 2: numbers show they're a team that knows how to defend
Speaker 2: you without fouling because they fit fewer come out they
Speaker 2: commit fewer fouls than anybody in the country. But the
Speaker 2: technical he was hot, and I.
Speaker 3: Do believe that.
Speaker 2: It was more of a build up than anything that
Speaker 2: was particularly said at the time, because he was more
Speaker 2: fiery after the technical. Like what he did after getting
Speaker 2: the tea, I think was way more deserving of a
Speaker 2: tea than the first he as far as just seeing him. Now,
Speaker 2: what we don't know is what he said. He claims
Speaker 2: to have have have said something he should not have
Speaker 2: said that led to it, and.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: That that'll get you. But I was talking to to
Speaker 2: somebody that was that was behind the bench during the game,
Speaker 2: and when I asked, you know what what because I thought, honestly,
Speaker 2: he got a quick trigger. But what I didn't realize
Speaker 2: is apparently he was. He was working that specific official
Speaker 2: during the entire game, maybe more maybe maybe he's doing
Speaker 2: that like any coach does during a game, and it
Speaker 2: just hit a breaking point. But he might have said
Speaker 2: something after that call, because when they called the foul
Speaker 2: on Hadley, I mean, that was that was a bad call.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it had an impact in
Speaker 2: the outcome, and and I'm not even sure had they
Speaker 2: not called it what it would have changed at all.
Speaker 2: But it might have been a breaking point for Kelsey
Speaker 2: as far as him just losing it and maybe crossing
Speaker 2: a line, as far as what was said, and the
Speaker 2: ref just you know, his breaking point of like, all right,
Speaker 2: you're getting teed up. You need to know you can't
Speaker 2: keep you know, talking to.
Speaker 3: Me that way.
Speaker 2: Although I do love and this is what makes us crazy,
Speaker 2: the ref who teed him up.
Speaker 3: And I don't even know his name.
Speaker 2: Apparently somebody's pulled up like you know, pictures of him
Speaker 2: on the internet, social media, and he's a Nebraska fan,
Speaker 2: which you may thinking, what the hell's that matter.
Speaker 3: I did say this either yesterday or the day before.
Speaker 2: Creighton basketball is rare because they have a humongous basketball
Speaker 2: fan base. They're top like top five in the country
Speaker 2: in attendance. And it's because you know, all those the
Speaker 2: billions of people who go to Nebraska football games that
Speaker 2: don't care about Nebraska basketball because Nebraska basketball's never won
Speaker 2: a tournament game.
Speaker 3: Like quite literally, it's a weird state.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Nebraska has Nebraska football fans and creating basketball fans, So like,
Speaker 2: you know, do with that what you will. But again,
Speaker 2: today's officiating, I mean, I don't. I do not think
Speaker 2: Louisville lost today because the refs cost him the game.
Speaker 2: But here's pat when being asked about the technical overall.
Speaker 5: Can you just talk us through kind of the situation
Speaker 5: there at the end of the game.
Speaker 4: You seem to be frustrated, what led to the technical
Speaker 4: and kind of what were you kind of displeased within
Speaker 4: that moment.
Speaker 6: I got frustrated and said something I shouldn't have said,
Speaker 6: and he teed me up.
Speaker 5: You know, far less.
Speaker 6: Than an ideal time to get a technical.
Speaker 5: I realize that so.
Speaker 6: Is what it is.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I've not heard anybody or really even
Speaker 2: seen anybody that I, you know, communicate with or that
Speaker 2: I follow on any of the social media platforms that
Speaker 2: has expressed any level of like concern about the direction
Speaker 2: of the program and the guy that's leading it, which
Speaker 2: I mean, even if I did, it wouldn't change anything
Speaker 2: for me, because you know, you can find it.
Speaker 3: I mean, if I look hard enough, I would find it.
Speaker 2: It's just, you know, even after today's result, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure anybody can can can feel as if one of
Speaker 2: the issues for little basketball right now is the guy
Speaker 2: coaching them. But I think even today, for me, you know,
Speaker 2: I think they were I disagree with one of our
Speaker 2: callers earlier said we weren't prepared for for what Creighton did.
Speaker 2: There's a difference in being prepared for it, and you know,
Speaker 2: just simply like, I don't feel like Creighton got a
Speaker 2: lot today that we gave them, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: I don't think that that Louisville was asleep at the
Speaker 2: wheel and clearly just miss scouted this team. I think
Speaker 2: what happened was early on and maybe in fact, I
Speaker 2: think they missed early shots that I mean, that was
Speaker 2: my worry. Is that, all right, you can't keep giving
Speaker 2: them those open looks? Can you Like? That's like, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't keep doing that. That seems to be an it.
Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't take that risk. And
Speaker 2: then they started making some of the open looks they
Speaker 2: were getting, and sometimes maybe it was just okay, they
Speaker 2: got lost on a switch. But Creighton did a lot.
Speaker 2: As we talked about just a moment ago. Creighton moves
Speaker 2: constantly and they in Kuckburnner first guy, as big as
Speaker 2: he is in the half court, he's always moving. There's
Speaker 2: not a lot of stationary stuff, which can really, you know,
Speaker 2: be an issue for teams that haven't seen it. And
Speaker 2: I think a lot of teams that Louis Wille played
Speaker 2: this year, in even teams they beat, like they didn't
Speaker 2: do that, and had they done it, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: the result would have been different.
Speaker 3: I doubt it.
Speaker 2: But here's what it comes down to, and I said
Speaker 2: this to start the show. Louislle did not take advantage
Speaker 2: of weaknesses that that Creighton had.
Speaker 3: And I think.
Speaker 2: The reason that they either chose not to or just
Speaker 2: weren't able to was because you simply have to account
Speaker 2: for the big, towering presence they have that is Ryan
Speaker 2: Colchbrinner and you know, you don't have anything close to him, right,
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to utilize multiple different guys at the
Speaker 2: same time, Like you can't like there's nobody you can
Speaker 2: just you know, single handedly match up with him. And
Speaker 2: I don't think he did anything today where like, well,
Speaker 2: you can't give this giant a clean look like I
Speaker 2: think he you know, the argument, I guess more so
Speaker 2: would be, how did he end up around the rim
Speaker 2: with such a good look? Well, if he's around the rim,
Speaker 2: what's not a good look.
Speaker 3: Who's gonna you know, who's going to.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, be up there to to really challenge
Speaker 2: him at the rim. Your best bet is to get him,
Speaker 2: get him out of his comfort zone to where he's
Speaker 2: winded to you know, physically push him around to where
Speaker 2: he's he's not on balance, and he just starts missing
Speaker 2: shots around the rim that you start to think, man,
Speaker 2: how could somebody seven to two not make that? And
Speaker 2: lild wasn't able to do that? And again, was it
Speaker 2: or so because they didn't prioritize that as as a
Speaker 2: key to the game, or because they just weren't able
Speaker 2: to I think.
Speaker 3: The the clear.
Speaker 2: I mean, again, you wouldn't want to go full court
Speaker 2: press and really just you know, challenge a team to
Speaker 2: have more stamina than you, because again you are short
Speaker 2: as it is. And Rain Smith was not able to
Speaker 2: go today. I mean, Rain made a three, but man, like,
Speaker 2: he was so not himself in any way, and it
Speaker 2: wasn't even about like what he was doing with his leg,
Speaker 2: with his ankle, It was just everything about his movement.
Speaker 2: You know, here I am playing, you know, body language expert,
Speaker 2: but like he clearly wasn't comfortable out there. And I'm
Speaker 2: not saying he was in excruciating pain, but I believe
Speaker 2: that they put Rain out there, not because they felt
Speaker 2: like they needed him to make five threes. I mean,
Speaker 2: that would have been ideal, and you always know that
Speaker 2: at any moment he can do that. But I think
Speaker 2: they just realize everybody else offensively for us is a
Speaker 2: bigger concern for the opposing team defensively if he is
Speaker 2: on the floor. So you know, I just think today
Speaker 2: to not be able to speed them up and turn
Speaker 2: them over when they are insanely turnover prone was a
Speaker 2: real I mean, was a huge factor in today's game,
Speaker 2: one of the many factors, of course, And I think
Speaker 2: that's the one thing I do have a real complain about,
Speaker 2: is that, like I don't think when you know when
Speaker 2: you're when you have proven to be a pretty good
Speaker 2: team defensively, and this team turns it over more than
Speaker 2: anybody in the country, or the point guard does. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: the point guard turns it over more than anybody in
Speaker 2: the country. I don't really know how why that wasn't
Speaker 2: something in the first like ten minutes that that you know,
Speaker 2: you saw any real like it should have been something
Speaker 2: you exploited. And not only did they not, I didn't
Speaker 2: really see anything that made me feel like they were
Speaker 2: trying to turn Ashworth over and what happens in basketball,
Speaker 2: Like a lot of things in life, if you've got
Speaker 2: a well established identity, good or bad, you can you
Speaker 2: can you can ride some momentum and live in a
Speaker 2: different world. And I think this Creighton team, you know,
Speaker 2: once they started making a lot of open shots and
Speaker 2: once Ashworth was never once. Once the first ten to
Speaker 2: twelve minutes of the game go by, and he's not uncomfortable, right,
Speaker 2: he's not turning it over, He's not, you know, uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Then you know he's not thinking about being turnover prone.
Speaker 2: He's playing loose, and he's making tough shots, shots that
Speaker 2: were well defended. So it really comes down to this.
Speaker 2: The first half run that Creyton went on, I mean
Speaker 2: that was the ultimate factor in the game. Louisville had
Speaker 2: never had a run against him like that, against anybody
Speaker 2: they played, and it was the perfect storm for Creighton
Speaker 2: because you know, they weren't you know, Louisville was missing shots.
Speaker 2: They did make some uncharacteristic mistakes, but more than anything,
Speaker 2: Creighton took advantage of Louisville in that run. Again, I
Speaker 2: don't even have the shot charted in front of me,
Speaker 2: but I do feel like in that run, Louisville missed
Speaker 2: some shots that they either should have made, could have made,
Speaker 2: or they simply altered their shot because they were worried
Speaker 2: about Caulkbrinner. That led to Creighton getting some open looks
Speaker 2: and transition where they cash in. And again, you know,
Speaker 2: some will say, well, it's luck they shot out of
Speaker 2: their rear end they did in a way, but also
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. When you play for Creighton and you are
Speaker 2: a player of that caliber for a team like that,
Speaker 2: if you're getting healthy, sometimes really good looks, you can't
Speaker 2: be surprised when they make that.
Speaker 3: In fact, you need to be.
Speaker 2: If they get good, clean looks, you should be thinking
Speaker 2: that you're blessed if they miss it. And that's not
Speaker 2: to say you left over a lethal shooter. That's just
Speaker 2: because you know, like, don't give somebody who like they're
Speaker 2: some of the guys who made shots today for Creighton.
Speaker 2: Early on, they got good looks. They're there to make
Speaker 2: those shots, that's why they're there, and they made them.
Speaker 2: They got confident and then they started making shots that
Speaker 2: were really tough. So Louisville offensively was impacted by cok Brenner.
Speaker 2: That led to them being vulnerable to create and getting
Speaker 2: those good looks, and they cashed in in a major
Speaker 2: way also defensively, And I don't feel like this happened
Speaker 2: as much, but it definitely stands out as one of
Speaker 2: those things that that that's memorable. From that first half
Speaker 2: run that was a disaster. Louisville either just didn't get
Speaker 2: a rebound or they were prioritizing keeping Cockbrinner from from
Speaker 2: eating the glass that it led to either a long
Speaker 2: rebound or a loose ball tap out of the off
Speaker 2: the off the shot off the miss to where they
Speaker 2: got other looks like that. I mean, that's what they
Speaker 2: at one point went seven to nine from three, and
Speaker 2: Louisvill dug themselves a hole that you I mean, yes,
Speaker 2: they did have a They did have clearly, you know,
Speaker 2: some some wins this year where they were coming from behind,
Speaker 2: but this was different. And this was in Sibil, a
Speaker 2: tournament against the team that regardless if you believe Creighton's
Speaker 2: good or not, I mean teams that lose in situations
Speaker 2: when when they are up by that much, that's like
Speaker 2: a major red flag about you, right, Like more often
Speaker 2: than not, teams who lose. I mean, let me see
Speaker 2: what Craton's biggest lead was, I mean it was twenty,
Speaker 2: right at least It's so so Louisville led for forty
Speaker 2: two seconds of the game. I'm sorry, No, Louisville led
Speaker 2: for two minutes and ten seconds of the game. They
Speaker 2: trailed for thirty seven minutes and eight seconds. They it
Speaker 2: was tied for forty two seconds, So biggest.
Speaker 5: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: It's not showing me the either way. Whatever the biggest
Speaker 2: lead was, it was at least twenty I believe. Maybe
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, but yeah, so let's see. I love STAB
Speaker 2: broadcast because it gives you so many stats that are valuable,
Speaker 2: but being able to find them is a real pain
Speaker 2: in the ass. But let's just say the biggest lead
Speaker 2: is twenty. If you're a team that is losing twenty
Speaker 2: point leads in not just losing them, but losing the
Speaker 2: game like that probably means one of two things. You're
Speaker 2: not very good at winning, which again, would you know
Speaker 2: be the factor in you being a good or bad team.
Speaker 2: But it also, I think means that you either might
Speaker 2: have been good or you're falling apart. So like once
Speaker 2: you bury yourself, that deep good luck no matter who
Speaker 2: you are winning also Louisville digging out of a hole
Speaker 2: with no rain Smith as far as like him being
Speaker 2: anything close to who he is and just who you
Speaker 2: are as a team, when you've been able to put
Speaker 2: yourself in the position with really maximizing every ouch you
Speaker 2: can get out of seven guys, it's just, you know,
Speaker 2: that's where the game, that's where the game was lost.
Speaker 2: It was and I actually think in the second half strategically,
Speaker 2: Louiville did some good things encountered and and and it
Speaker 2: just was too big of a hole to climb out of.
Speaker 2: And you're never gonna be just I mean, you're never
Speaker 2: gonna be completely I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm sure Creighton's had games where they couldn't score, but.
Speaker 2: You know, the scenario where you go on big enough
Speaker 2: runs to eliminate that lead just didn't.
Speaker 3: It just wasn't realistic.
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to build Creighton up as some goliath,
Speaker 2: but I honestly think that you know, they're the They're
Speaker 2: the last team that you want to you want to
Speaker 2: see when you're an eight seed, and they have a
Speaker 2: guy that really, no matter who you are in college basketball,
Speaker 2: you're gonna change some variables of your identity when that
Speaker 2: guy is your opponent, because nobody you play gives you
Speaker 2: that he's Zach Edy. But the diet version. How about
Speaker 2: this score. There's fifteen minutes left in McNee State is
Speaker 2: beating Clemson forty to sixteen. Quick break, stick around right
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Speaker 2: My upset special in the sweet sixteen was VCU, and
Speaker 2: they got off to a good start. They're now down
Speaker 2: seven to BYU, which isn't the end of the world.
Speaker 2: But VCU is a team that I believe that their
Speaker 2: ability to slow you down and lock you up would
Speaker 2: make them a good candidate to take down this BYU team.
Speaker 2: But now that BYUS found some offense, I'm not as
Speaker 2: confident because VC you can't get behind too much. They
Speaker 2: don't have the offensive weapons or firepower to go on
Speaker 2: some kind of big runs. So anyways, uh, let me
Speaker 2: start here in our final segment of the four o'clock hour,
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Speaker 2: about Thorden' zero Sports Talk seven ninety. So obviously today's
Speaker 2: been a different show than usual, mostly just really a
Speaker 2: long postgame show, really a funeral, a celebration of life,
Speaker 2: more so, I should say for this group because they're special.
Speaker 2: But we'll try to, you know, keep this thing on track.
Speaker 2: I can't believe it's almost five o'clock. I feel like
Speaker 2: I need more time today just to you know, get
Speaker 2: an extended therapy session, because that's what I use this for.
Speaker 3: I love doing what I do. It's a blessing.
Speaker 2: Tried never to take it for granted, but I mean
Speaker 2: it when I say it, if I didn't have this
Speaker 2: platform to, you know, just at least, you know, talk
Speaker 2: through it with myself and with you, I mean, I
Speaker 2: kind of feel like I'm I'm I bit like I
Speaker 2: wish you guys had something like this because it's helped me.
Speaker 2: Because I can tell you the feeling and the feeling
Speaker 2: and the emotion I had today before the game. That
Speaker 2: can't be good for my expectation, the expectance for my life.
Speaker 2: It's not normal. Nobody should be should be the way
Speaker 2: I was before this game today because it's just not normal.
Speaker 2: But anyways, something that I'm annoyed by and then something
Speaker 2: I love as we wrap up the four o'clock hour. Clemson,
Speaker 2: I mean, they're getting their ass kicked. They're down forty
Speaker 2: three to twenty four with thirteen minutes left. They're a
Speaker 2: five seed, They're against McNee state. That will lead to
Speaker 2: everybody claiming Louisville lost to Creighton because the ACC was
Speaker 2: ass as I say oftentimes, and I'm in the wrong world,
Speaker 2: the wrong industry when it comes to this fact that
Speaker 2: never gets said but is something undoubtable. Both things can
Speaker 2: be true. You don't have to be one way or
Speaker 2: the other. The ACC was awful Louisville had they played
Speaker 2: other teams today, had they had a healthy Rainsmith, like,
Speaker 2: it's all what it could have should have. But like
Speaker 2: the loss today doesn't mean Louisville had the season they
Speaker 2: had that and that they're really a bad team now.
Speaker 2: I also can't claim that you know today's results makes
Speaker 2: you sure that they needed to be at least a
Speaker 2: six seed. I mean, I still believe that. But either way,
Speaker 2: Clemson and I don't like. Look, when I think about
Speaker 2: the ACC being the way that it is. Let me
Speaker 2: be honest with you. It's not just because the teams
Speaker 2: that you know used to be consistently good, sometimes consistently great.
Speaker 3: It's not just because they suck.
Speaker 2: Fact, the big, real red flag about the ACC falling
Speaker 2: apart is that Clemson's good because they're not good.
Speaker 3: They're not supposed to be good. Look at them. I
Speaker 3: got Brad.
Speaker 2: We had somebody call in the other day complaining that
Speaker 2: I mispronounced their coach's name. It wasn't intentional, it was
Speaker 2: because it's Clemson, I mean, and they got the five seed.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't mean to pile on. Maybe maybe
Speaker 2: it's just because I'm in a mood because of what
Speaker 2: happened today. But when the the biggest concern about the
Speaker 2: ACC isn't anything other than Clemson has now the last
Speaker 2: two years been the best, second to best, second or
Speaker 2: third best team in the league, right, I mean, that's
Speaker 2: not sustainable. Brown Well, Brown l whatever the hell his
Speaker 2: name is. He was at Clemson when the ACC was
Speaker 2: in a different place, and he was lucky to keep
Speaker 2: his job. I'm projecting, aren't I I'm just making I'm
Speaker 2: making valid points, but I'm just picking on Clemson because.
Speaker 3: We lost.
Speaker 5: Who the hell?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean if if if we had
Speaker 2: McNee state, we might have lost two. But they I
Speaker 2: mean again, when I watch Louisville beat Clemson, look, I
Speaker 2: I love my team. I want whatever however it happens.
Speaker 2: I want the best more and I wanted to succeed.
Speaker 2: But I'm also real with with like what I see
Speaker 2: when Louisville beat Clemson in the ACC semis I thought
Speaker 2: they beat a team that was good but nowhere near
Speaker 2: like like to me, that's that's a team that in
Speaker 2: even the decent years of the ACC, they're the fifth
Speaker 2: or sixth best team at best.
Speaker 5: Yeah, at best?
Speaker 2: I mean, like who who you worried about on Clemson.
Speaker 2: I mean, they've got Hunter, who's a solid player, but
Speaker 2: like who you worried about on their team? And again
Speaker 2: here I am talking crap about a team that just
Speaker 2: you know that that you know in fact, this that's
Speaker 2: what sucks is they're actually they got a seed that
Speaker 2: we probably deserved over them as far as you know,
Speaker 2: like we swept them. And yes they did beat Kentucky
Speaker 2: and they beat Duke and those wins have value, but
Speaker 2: all the other there are a lot of other metrics
Speaker 2: that favored Louisville, and they also didn't have. They also
Speaker 2: had bad losses that Louisville didn't have. So again I'm projecting.
Speaker 2: I'm just being, you know, being a jerk. But they're
Speaker 2: getting killed, you know, speaking of getting killed, have you
Speaker 2: seen the Gonzaga Georgia score?
Speaker 5: No, I haven't.
Speaker 3: Do you want to hear it?
Speaker 5: Of course I do. Maybe I've been paying attention.
Speaker 3: We are at the under twelve in Gonza Zaga Georgia.
Speaker 3: Gonzaga is winning twenty seven to three. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: So again ask you. We'll see what happens. But the
Speaker 3: SEC deserved a lot of the love. They got nearly
Speaker 3: all of it.
Speaker 2: But I think that the teams that got the benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt for catching a good team or a
Speaker 2: great team on and off night, they got in based
Speaker 2: off that, and it'll prove out that those.
Speaker 3: Teams weren't very good either.
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