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Speaker 1: It's de risking to have that longevity, you know. I

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know the copper price is at four dollars today, but

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in a year from now, I think it's going to

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be pushing through five dollars again. That would be based

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on several third party reports I've seen from major minors

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around the world, analysts and so on. So I think

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our timing and our current capital position is a weapon

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for us in terms of value preservation, and it gives

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us a chance to drill those extra holes to make

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Speaker 2: The Financial Survival Network now more than network, the Financial

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Survival Network and welcome.

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Speaker 3: This is Financial Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie. Let's

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today we've got an update for you. Sponsor update on

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Copernico Metals. CEO Ivan Bebick is with us. Now. Ivan,

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you know, there's an old saying on Wall Street that

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there are many reasons why insiders sell, but there's only

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one reason why in siders buy. You just have the

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opportunity to pick up some shares in Copernico. And obviously

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it's the ladder and not the former.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you know, it's been a real busy six

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months for us, and we started drilling sombrero back in

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middle of the summer, and we started to learn a

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lot about where this thing could go and what the

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probability of success could be. To be full disclosure, scarns

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are very complex. This is a very large, complex system.

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The scale of it is extremely appealing from an expiration

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point of view. There's a lot of room from a

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major discovery here, but the complexity and the time of

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getting through a lot of those targets is it's going

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to take a minute. We've seen that the most impressive

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part that I've seen so far out of the project,

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besides the twenty meters of half a percent, and we'll

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talk about that, you know, our last press release and

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how important that is going forward for January. It's been

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the vectoring that the technical team and the way they

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been vectoring through each hole. And what we wanted to

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do was take more of a systematic approach and go

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around the horseshoe shape of the scarm that surrounds this

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big intrusion, and we want to find out where is

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the sweetest spot of the system, where should we be

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and what they are is, you know, we need to

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expand our polygon a little bit because we are on

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the edge of some things that we will get access

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to in the coming months but we don't have access

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to yet. But we're also seeing, you know, a lot

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of revelations of where to go look for the sweet spot,

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and that's going to really be the theme of January

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is the follow up on the twenty meters of half

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percent and some of these other areas that we are

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we're drilling into the twenty meters of half a percent.

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and a long strike meaning along a trend that goes

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for quite some area that that targeting will be presented

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here to the marketplace prior to drilling in January. But

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we are right now in our twelfth hole. It's on

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a target called Escondida. This was one of my favorite

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targets of the entire system, and I didn't I was

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there's limited times when you can buy shares, obviously of

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your own company, but I had a window here where

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I could, and I wanted to buy them before we

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drilled this ESCONDI to target and I've got a chance.

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I bought about three hundred and fifty thousand shares here

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in the last day or so, and I plan to

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add more here while I can, because a our price

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is really cheap. The opportunity looks amazing from what we've seen,

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and from a science perspective, it's a matter of time.

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It's not if, it's when. And then we have some

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really robust targets such as the historical drill whole area

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called Furasso that's just north of where we're drilling this

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current hole, that have already demonstrated in eight holes the

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widespread mineralization we're looking for that will get access to

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some point towards the middle of next year. So there's

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a lot of targets that we've learned about. We've learned

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where we are in the system. We're vectoring very intelligently

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towards some of the sweet spots that could really give

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us that kind of market presence that things can go well.

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pound it the equivalent of goal dropped now to nineteen

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hundred announce in state sideways. That is the copper market

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for copper equities. Personally, I see that as an opportunity.

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I'm a speculator, a big speculator. I see it from

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a greed perspective of being really encouraged by the geology.

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perfect with the copper market, and I want to own more,

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and I believe in the team and I believe in

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the project. As far as the next few steps here,

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we're finishing Pole twelve. We'll finish it here in the

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next week before the break here, and we will resume

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drilling in the first week of January, and that's where

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we'll drill the next four or five holes that will

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be a production or a result of all the expiration

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we've done today in the main areas that we're working on.

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But it's been a tough year with the copper price

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and the sentiment shifted. The stocks kind of followed that.

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a lot of holes going in the lab. The predictability

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is not there until you get assays because the erratic

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nature of scarns, you know. And the whole we drilled

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twenty meters of half percent, we thought that was dead

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rock and it ran, and the other part of it

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which didn't run that well, we thought it would run

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much better. I'm fine with that. I'm encouraged by the

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level of understanding from the team and that that big

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look is. In my view, it's getting stronger and we

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now know a lot more of where to go next

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here in the first quarter with the drubber.

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Speaker 3: All right, And I also noticed that you applied to

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expand your drill permits to two hundred holes, so obviously

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there's some plans there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're starting to learn where and how much

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and how big the scale of these targets can be

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based on where we're seeing some really good indications. And

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that's a very very bullish statement by us to take

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on that approach to get those extra pads. We can

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drill two hundred holes. We want to be able to

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accelerate our exploration with drilling, accelerate the answer to a

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discovery in the event that the discovery starts being made,

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and that will certainly put us in that position. So

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we did that because we see the system as being

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very robust. There's a lot of mineralization, there's a lot

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going on. The only caveat has been. It's a bit complex,

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and we're getting through that at a very very good pace.

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and perform in the event that this discovery starts to

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take place and scarings do. They are drill intensive. That's

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well known for anyone who's seen or follow or explored

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for a scaring system, and we just want to be

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ready because time is money, and we're watching our cost

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and we want to make sure we can accelerate when

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it's time to do it, and that would be sometime

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in the middle of next year that we have those permits.

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Second point being our current capital position gives us we

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have about eighteen months of working capital left, takes us

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into May twenty twenty six. This is a phenomenal position

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to be in, especially at four dollars copper, when copper

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equities are much softer and availability of capital for copper

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is at a very deep discount to where people would

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like to get it in the marketplace. And so we're

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going to be continued to be very disciplined with the spending.

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and we're going to breathe very mindful at the pace

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we spend that because we can increase or slow that

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down at any time based on the market conditions. I

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think the biggest thing with a big system like Sombarrows,

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you need capital. We're certainly very well capitalized to drill

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enough holes to get that big answer before we need

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to go back to market for money. The second part

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about it is it's de risking to have that longevity.

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but in a year from now, I think it's going

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to be pushing through five dollars again. That would be

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based on several third party reports I've seen from major

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minors around the world, analysts and so on. So I

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think our timing and our current capital position is a

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weapon for us in terms of value preservation, and it

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gives us a chance to drill those extra holes to

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make that major discovery. So everything's growing a lot better

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than the share price would indicative and be indicative of,

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and just how it's performing in those times, I'm in

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a position to and enable to I take advantage of

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that and I buy more. And that's exactly what I'm

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doing here as we speak on this interview today.

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Speaker 3: Well, clearly a supply of production of copper is at

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a deficit. It's been running that for a while and

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there's nothing out there, no major new minds that are

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going to change that situation. You know, Sombrero from the

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get go has always had a lot of institutional interest.

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increase a lot with their current funding, and obviously Tech

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bought in for nine point nine percent. We've signed several

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c's when Tech was buying in, and there's a lot

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more looking to get familiar with the project because of

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early indications from a science perspective or extremely positive of

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how things are going. And the feedback everyone saying is

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just keep drilling and it's a scarn and we see

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that we're not in a rush to expand our corporate

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shareholder based at this time. We're more of a rush

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to see what the next few holes can do for

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us in the exploration point. I think the most actually

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the most impactful holes we're going to drill so far

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will be the next four holes based on all of

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the data we've collected and where we've moved around the system,

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coming into January, so in extremely encouraging time, any hole

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we drill could be that first revealing major discovery hole.

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from this interview. It's a scarn. You can drill ten

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meters beside the major system and miss it, and you'd

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have to go back and drill further to find it.

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that system could be drilled. Our current drilling to date

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has not taken away anything from the potential scale and opportunity.

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we're expanding our polygon so we can drill more areas

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that we see to be either outcropping obviously robust areas

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that would be very high success rates based on historical drilling,

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or outcrop. And the other part about it is where

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we've drilled around the horseshoe, the polygon, we've pushed up

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outside of our permitted areas. So we're we're expanding our permits,

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we're getting ability to drill more holes, and we have

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some really robust targets that have come out of what

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we drilled so far today, but the vectoring has gone

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at a very very good pace, and a little bit

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more patience is needed, no question, I have no issue

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being patient when you have eighteen months of working capital

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and plenty of drilling capital as part of that budget remaining.

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of tax loss four dollars copper. I think this is

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a very opportunistic time, which is why I decided to

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start buying more and I most certainly believe in that

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and the potential geology and approaching.

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Speaker 3: And since we last spoke, you got your OTCQB listing

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under CPPMF, so it'll make it easier for US people

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in the south here south of the Canada in the

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US to purchase shares.

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Speaker 1: And that was long overdue. We did our best to

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get it as fast as we could. Un Fortunately we're

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at the mercy of the exchange. But we're happy to

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now have a US symbol that's much more easy to

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be ritable access to people to trade on the back

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of how things go forward. If our success starts to

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find us here in the first quarter and we start

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to create the share price performance we're all desiring to

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see out of this project and the discovery starts to happen,

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we will look to upgrade that further to the Nisiamics

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you eventually once we qualify for that, but as we

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I have a very busy first quarter. I'll be attending

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Viereck conference in Zurich as well as the PDAC will

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be presenting there at the core shack some of the

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early core that we've drilled at this project. But as

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far as opportunity and potential upside, this is one of

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the few things out there right now that could be

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quite substantial as far as the discovery is concerned, and

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before the copper market really takes form. So expect a

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lot of news out of us in the first half

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of next year that we'll really set the tone for

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us going into the copper Potential price movements anticipated on

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the second half of next year, as we plan to

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try to be as extremely active as we can, both

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corporately and as well as on the road marketing the

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company and what we're going to see coming out of

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these several pending drill holes that we have coming out

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of the lab here in the next few weeks into January.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited as a shareholder and as far as

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a drill program for twenty twenty twenty five, I assume

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that's taking shape now, and a lot of it's going

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to depend on the results of I guess we're looking

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're currently drilling twelve. We'll be waiting on six

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through twelve to come back by the end of January,

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and then we will have we have the set. We

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have thirty holes funded in our eighteen months of working

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capital remaining, and the next four holes that we drill

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from twelve to thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, they will be

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These will be some of the most paramount holes in

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a project based on what we have access to and

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what we've seen so far and what will really test

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some key thesis points. And then yeah, the rest of

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it's being designed in the moment. We're not going to

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drill past our knowledge, and you know, we're going to

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wait to see how the project and how the market's

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performing so that our treasury stays strong in difficult to

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copper equity markets, which we currently see here in the

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last quarter of this year. But we're just going to

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be mindful. I would expect to be much more formal

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with our plans in January February of the extent of

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the program beyond the next four holes that we drill.

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That they will all determine how aggressive we are with

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the drill bit as well as the market conditions, so

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we don't put ourselves into any kind of a financial

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pressuring kind of scenario. So expect a very discipline approach. Financially,

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But we are super encouraged with the pace of vectoring,

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or the pace of knowledge that we're getting from the

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holes we have drilled. At least from a visual perspective,

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we see a lot of the system starting to make

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sense for us, and we're getting some really, really great

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targets coming out of it. So it's really really exciting,

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and I can't wait to get drilling back in the

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first quarter and can't wait to see how a whole

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twelve goes just south of our puriscal historical holes on

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the same structure of projecting south into the same rock unit,

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the Maral formation that hosts the mineralization at puri Assal,

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So a lot of potential. The big one could be

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in any hole and we're going to keep going and

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see how she goes.

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Speaker 3: All right, that is exciting, So everyone should go over

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Will be following up with you as soon as those

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drill results come out. And happy and healthy New Year

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to you and yours.

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Speaker 1: Five of them, The best of the holidays to everybody,

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celebrate them and yourself carry stay safe and yeah, looking

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forward to a lot of news and this is an

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extremely exciting project at an extremely time and can't wait

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to see the next results.

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Speaker 2: The Financial Survival Network