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<v Speaker 1>I Billy Cunningham the Great America to go to. REGs

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball kicks off tonight in Detroit and they have its

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<v Speaker 1>three game set there before they come home. And some

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<v Speaker 1>have said this will be a preview of the World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>That might be a little bit over your skis. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time the Reds played Detroit, Bob Casolini was

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<v Speaker 1>not the owner of the ball club. Johnny bench edn't

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<v Speaker 1>beond born yet. It was nineteen forty when the Reds

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Tigers in seven games to win the World

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<v Speaker 1>Series after losing to the Yankees in nineteen thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I have lots of historical references, but more importantly, at

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<v Speaker 1>the last several hours, in fact, beginning yesterday, Israel began

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<v Speaker 1>an attack, an air attack against Iran. And it's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>to watch the formation of this. How long it's been

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<v Speaker 1>going on. And probably no one in the America knows

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<v Speaker 1>more about air attacks than Lieutenant General Richard Newton. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the News Nation's senior national security contributor. He has been

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<v Speaker 1>in command of B two B one Operation Fleets. He's

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<v Speaker 1>in the military for about thirty years or so. Had

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<v Speaker 1>a General Richard Newton, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>And first of all, of course, you were not involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the planning by the Israeli Air Force and what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing in a general way once the well, once

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<v Speaker 1>the radar stations were taken out about six or seven

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<v Speaker 1>months ago, kind of give us your thought on what

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<v Speaker 1>your counterparts in the Israeli Air Force had been planning

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<v Speaker 1>the last several weeks and about the execution. Also, well, Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>good to be with you, and thank you again for

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<v Speaker 1>having me. As you reported, Israel launched a sweeping strike

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<v Speaker 1>against Iranian targets yesterday. We'll get into that here in

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<v Speaker 1>just a second. All the while, I would remind our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners that shortly thereafter they also fend it off about

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred Iranian drones that tried a counter attack. But

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<v Speaker 1>really those drones practically never even left Iranian airspace. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was a sweeping strike by Israel, frankly, very remarkable,

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<v Speaker 1>very successful. First went after and much like you alluded to,

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<v Speaker 1>on October twenty sixth, Israel launched another attack against Iran,

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<v Speaker 1>this one fast forward. It's right out of that playbook.

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<v Speaker 2>But here in June of twenty twenty five, they first

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<v Speaker 2>went after more Iranian air defenses than they went after

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<v Speaker 2>their command and control. They also went after Iranian leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>This time they struck and killed the Iranian Revolutionary guardcourt commander.

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<v Speaker 2>They also went after the chief of the Iranian military,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a tantamount to going after our chairman of

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<v Speaker 2>the Joint Chiefs Staff. They killed the head of the

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<v Speaker 2>Iranian Air Force and so forth. And then they've also

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<v Speaker 2>made some strikes, more strike against Iraning missile capabilities. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was quite an evening last night. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that they're got They're not gonna let up. I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's more to follow in the coming hours as

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<v Speaker 2>arguments prevails over the Mideast, and probably in the coming

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<v Speaker 2>days as well.

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<v Speaker 1>General Newton, so many questions, so little time I learned.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched one of your counterparts this morning, General Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Keene with Fox News, talking about these drones, and I

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<v Speaker 1>discovered that to launch a drone from Iran takes about

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<v Speaker 1>eight to ten hours for the drone to reach Tel Aviv.

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<v Speaker 1>They go very slow. And when you say they probably

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get out of Iranian airspace, who took them down.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that would be the Israeli Air force. They launched

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred aircraft last night. They've got F thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>and F fifteens and other aircraft. They also have plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of air defense capabilities themselves, but it's unlikely that they

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<v Speaker 2>got anywhere near Israel. Now, that's not for Israel to

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<v Speaker 2>take their eye offoot ball, because the first and foremost

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister Nyaho, just like President Trump, protecting the American people,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Yah who is very focused on protecting the

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli people as bestie pop they can, and so it

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<v Speaker 2>will provoke a response from Iran. They still have some

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<v Speaker 2>modicum of capabilities to strike into Israel as well as

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<v Speaker 2>to strike American force. We have about forty five thousand

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<v Speaker 2>troops in the Mideast, but I don't think they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do so. I think Iran has been now deterred

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<v Speaker 2>from at least striking against the United States because the

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump's very clear declarations that if they go against

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, are forty five thousand troops in the region.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got plenty of firepower to counter attack. But nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a developing operation with Israel or not a

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<v Speaker 2>one and none more to follow.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the bunker Buster bombs that we have,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am I correct to say the Israelis don't

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<v Speaker 1>have them since they don't have a delivery system like

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<v Speaker 1>a B one or a B two, because it's too

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<v Speaker 1>heavy for F thirty five. Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>That is correct. What we've got in place actually in

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<v Speaker 2>Diego Garcia as we speak Bill is several E two

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<v Speaker 2>stealth bombers. I happen to be the first stealth bomber

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<v Speaker 2>squadron commander, and I can attest that the B two

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<v Speaker 2>can carry two of those bunker busses. They're thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>pound bombs, highly accurate. We call it the GBU fifty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the ones that can really go deep into deep

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<v Speaker 2>earth penetrated weapon capability. The Iranians, especially in the Tons

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<v Speaker 2>and other nuclear facilities, but especially in the Tons, have

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<v Speaker 2>put multi story nuclear weapons development capabilities in the ground

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<v Speaker 2>about two hundred feet deep. They've also been lined with

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<v Speaker 2>three foot walls. And the only thing that can really

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<v Speaker 2>go and take those out are these thirty thousand pound bombs,

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<v Speaker 2>two of which can be delivered by one B two.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't been called on yet, but they're sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>in Dieo Garcia about twenty one hundred miles away, and

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<v Speaker 2>we could certainly hold those targets at risk. But back

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<v Speaker 2>to Israel, they've done a very effective job in the times.

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<v Speaker 2>They would have more work to do at other nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>development facilities around Iran, and that's why I'm thinking the

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<v Speaker 2>next page of their playbook will be to go after

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<v Speaker 2>more nuclear sites.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the ability to Iran to do a

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<v Speaker 1>conventional attack on Israel, is it fair to say that

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<v Speaker 1>that's impossible? When I think of a conventional attack, I

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<v Speaker 1>think of ground forces, I think of air forces. They

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<v Speaker 1>can do shall we say hesbla hamas? So we have

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand terrorists walks across our southern border when Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden was in office. God knows what they're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it fair to say that Iran at this point

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<v Speaker 1>it's in such terrible shape it cannot launch an attack

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<v Speaker 1>on Israel. And as it did twice with hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>missiles and also drums, is Iran right now kind of naked.

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<v Speaker 2>As they did back in October first, And that was

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<v Speaker 2>Israel's response back on the twenty sixth of October Israel District.

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<v Speaker 2>Iran has for years rated not with its own standing

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<v Speaker 2>army although it has a pretty good terrorist organization inside

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<v Speaker 2>its army called the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>really what they've operated ground forces is through proxies as

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<v Speaker 2>you alluded to, built has Blood of the North and

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<v Speaker 2>Lebanon Loss in g the Houthis in Yemen and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>Do not have a standing army that can really invade

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<v Speaker 2>another nation, especially Israel. But they do have still some

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<v Speaker 2>ballistic missile capabilities left and they can still use and

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<v Speaker 2>put in harms way Israel and Israeli people. They also

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<v Speaker 2>have a very extensive drowne capability, but again with Israel's

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<v Speaker 2>Iron dome and so forth, very effective. But Israel's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to let up on the gas at all in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of both offensive action against Israel but also defensive

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<v Speaker 2>action to protect Israeli people. And I think that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to find to be in the next coming

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<v Speaker 2>days or weeks and so forth. But again, the threat

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<v Speaker 2>is still there with Iran principally however, and their abilities

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<v Speaker 2>still to build nuclear weapons. That's really the key here.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only does it put Israeli threat, it also puts

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<v Speaker 2>other Golf allies and Arab nations at thread. Also that

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<v Speaker 2>you know Saudi's Jordan Cutter. They don't want Iran to

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<v Speaker 2>have a nuclear weapon much less the Israel does. But

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<v Speaker 2>also having a nuclear weapon in the hands of the

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<v Speaker 2>Iran puts US national security interests at risk as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So again I think the cards are streat beginning to

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<v Speaker 2>stack up against Iran here, but we're going to see

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<v Speaker 2>more activity by Israel in the coming days.

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<v Speaker 1>US Air Force Lieutenant General Richard Newton retired. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as ballistic missiles and drones, for those who may be uninitiated,

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<v Speaker 1>as I understand that a drone can take eight to

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<v Speaker 1>ten hours to reach Israel, which is non effective, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be shot down. Ballistic missiles are a different animal. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you explain how long it would take for a ballistic

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<v Speaker 1>missile to go from Iran to televis.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a relatively short range for a ballistic missile,

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<v Speaker 2>probably within within minutes. Uh and and that's but able

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<v Speaker 2>to defeat a ballistic missile launch, you will first with

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<v Speaker 2>exquisite intelligence and surveillance and reconnaissance from Israel. Uh, We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be able to detect them actually putting the missiles on

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<v Speaker 2>the launchers. Then you'll actually if it fires off you'll

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<v Speaker 2>see the heat emanated from the launch itself from the

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<v Speaker 2>uh launch site in Iran. That gives Israeli forces plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of time, even though it's just within you know, several

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<v Speaker 2>minutes of being able to strike Israel. But that in

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<v Speaker 2>the calculus of not only detecting but defeating the ballistic

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<v Speaker 2>missile leaving the launch pad in Iran, that's that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good amount of time for Israel to react and to

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<v Speaker 2>destroy those incoming blistic missiles. Much like we saw the

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<v Speaker 2>largest missile attack, blistic missile attack, and drone attack ever

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<v Speaker 2>in the Mid East occurred on October first, when in

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<v Speaker 2>Iran those three hundred plus ballistic missiles and drones from

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<v Speaker 2>Iran and Israel, and very few struck Israel because of

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<v Speaker 2>their extensive, high and capable iron dome air defense system.

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<v Speaker 2>And you would expect the same if Iran even contemplates

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<v Speaker 2>striking against Israel. One more point, if I may build,

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<v Speaker 2>is that back on that October twenty sixth strike, as

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<v Speaker 2>you alluded to several months or so ago, Israel not

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<v Speaker 2>only took out it's you know, a lot of Iranian capabilities,

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<v Speaker 2>their air defense capabilities, they also took out a very

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<v Speaker 2>large portion of their ballistic missiles capabilities that you alluded to,

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<v Speaker 2>and so not only the operational missiles, but the production

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<v Speaker 2>of those missiles. So Iran is back up against the

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<v Speaker 2>wall here. And that's why the timing of this strike

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<v Speaker 2>last night, now knowing that the International Atomic Energy Agency

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<v Speaker 2>declared that Iran is within a few days or so

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<v Speaker 2>of actually being able to build a nuclear bomb, and

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister Ninian who reported they were going to be

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<v Speaker 2>nine of them, but also the fact is that they

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<v Speaker 2>took out their defenses back on October twenty six, even

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<v Speaker 2>more so last night. They took out their blissing missile

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<v Speaker 2>capability back on October twenty six, even more last night

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<v Speaker 2>has really put Iran up against the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as getting a nuclear weapon, one does not

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<v Speaker 1>need to marry it with a missile. One could if

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<v Speaker 1>Iran had the desire, in fact, has some have said,

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps they have nuclear bombs right now, they could

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<v Speaker 1>put it onto a barge, onto a truck and somehow

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<v Speaker 1>get it to Israel and detonate it. But unless you

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate the capability of making atomic weapons and atomic bombs,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact they would marry with a missile, certainly North

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<v Speaker 1>Korea has done it. They supposedly have thirty to fifty

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear tip missiles aimed at US. But as far as Iran,

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<v Speaker 1>is it fair to say with a nuclear weapon they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have to need a missile to kill six million

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<v Speaker 1>Jews in Israel, which is what they say they want

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I actually take a little bit of issue with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, really, what you there's one thing, you're right

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<v Speaker 2>to have nuclear weapons capabilities, but I think also key

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<v Speaker 2>is a delivery system, just to be able to park

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<v Speaker 2>it and put it into a barge, as you allude to.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, nothing is you know, impossible in that regard,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think really in order to have a credible

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<v Speaker 2>the nuclear weapon itself with a hiding enriched uranium military

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<v Speaker 2>grade uranium, but you also have to have a delivery

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<v Speaker 2>means to deliver that weapon system or and so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's it's, as you know, a dirty bomb

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<v Speaker 2>per se. Nothing is out of question here, but really,

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<v Speaker 2>buy and large the capability that Iran would need to

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<v Speaker 2>really put Israel in harm's way with a nuclear bomb,

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<v Speaker 2>is that also that nuclear delivery system and that's principally

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<v Speaker 2>going to be on a ballistic missile. We see that

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<v Speaker 2>happening now with in North Korea and other adversaries. But

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<v Speaker 2>that that's really the extent of it. And that's why Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why they went after their blissing missile development capability

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<v Speaker 2>as well as a delivery of the blissing missile itself

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<v Speaker 2>with a warhead on top of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, as far as what's going to occur in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>God only knows. The references to what Iran could do,

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<v Speaker 1>it could not do. One thing I found amazing. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the walkie talkie and the PAGR explosions in hesblah.

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<v Speaker 1>Something happened last night. Allegedly there was a powwow all

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<v Speaker 1>the Iranian top leaders military leaders, you referenced them a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes ago, and somehow Israel, according to one source

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a news nation said that the Israel Israelis

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<v Speaker 1>arranged a meeting unbeknownst to the Iranians, to have the

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<v Speaker 1>Iranian military leadership all get together last night and then

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<v Speaker 1>somehow they were all killed. Explain how that can happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's extraordinary, I mean it is You're spot on

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<v Speaker 2>what they did with the Pagers back to the HESBO

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<v Speaker 2>leadership some months or so go was remarkable. But now

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<v Speaker 2>fast forward to last night or over the last several days,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Israel was it was the top commanders on

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<v Speaker 2>carried out specific activities you know. Uh, it was their

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence to understand where these air force leaders are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be, what type of meetings they were going to

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<v Speaker 2>be held, and actually compelled them to meet. And so

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<v Speaker 2>they used they used that information bill to actually influence

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<v Speaker 2>their behavior to stay on at the meeting. And then

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<v Speaker 2>once they got to the point where they were going

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<v Speaker 2>to meet, they stayed the meeting. That's when they took

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<v Speaker 2>them out. It's another remarkable capability that Israel has, not

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<v Speaker 2>only in terms of their Air force, and there's really

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<v Speaker 2>but their ability to really ratchet up with the intelligence

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<v Speaker 2>and their special operations capability makes them a significantly formal

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<v Speaker 1>General Newton is unbelievable with the Pagers all set off together,

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<v Speaker 1>but then in adition that they had walkie talkies that

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<v Speaker 1>have been used for years that were weaponized unbeknownst to

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<v Speaker 1>the Hesbala in Lebanon, and after after they used the

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<v Speaker 1>pagers to disable six to eight hundred Hesbela leadership by

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<v Speaker 1>blowing off a part of their hip of their arm

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<v Speaker 1>many were killed. They then waited until someone said with Hesblo,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll quit using the pagers, start using those walkie talkies.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had those for years, and then Israel set those off.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like and now they're afraid to turn on their

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<v Speaker 1>air condition or the television set. They don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>turn on the radio. Unfortunately, it's incredible that they have

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<v Speaker 1>that capability, and we don't know at this point the

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<v Speaker 1>Iranian leadership where they're taken out by a missile or

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<v Speaker 1>by announce of lead in the back of the head,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing. Like you said, they're unwilling now

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<v Speaker 2>to even turn on their phones. Now they're even unwilling

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<v Speaker 2>to meet. Uh, you know, it's really you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>gathering that they took out the Iranian Air Force leaders.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Israel last night took out also the

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<v Speaker 2>Iranian chiefs staff of the Air Force, but also the

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<v Speaker 2>Iranian chief of their drone force, and so they're taking

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<v Speaker 2>them out one by one. So the whole enterprise effort

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<v Speaker 2>by Israel with their F thirty five, their F fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>Strike Eagles, and now all the way down to encouraging

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a portion of their military leaders to meet

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<v Speaker 2>and then take them out. That's extraordinary. So again this

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<v Speaker 2>silver folding Bill, It's like I said, this is we're

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<v Speaker 2>not here in the end of the ninth endy of

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<v Speaker 2>the World Series and we're going to you know, pop

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<v Speaker 2>champagne court. No, we're in the middle of the season

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<v Speaker 2>right now to put in a baseball binacuar. But Israel's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to let up. They're still going to be

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<v Speaker 2>going for the fences, and I think the United States

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<v Speaker 2>ought'll be supporting them and doing so.

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<v Speaker 1>Lieutenant General Richard Newton, once again senior contributor to News Nation,

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<v Speaker 1>Assistant Chief of Staff of the Air Force, been in

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<v Speaker 1>it for about thirty years. Thanks for coming on the

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham Show. I'm honored America has produced individuals like you,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you for your service to this nation. Thank you, General,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm honored to keep serving in my best all our

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<v Speaker 2>listeners there in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless America. Thank you very much. Let's continue with more,

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<v Speaker 1>and there you have it. Imagine Israel setting up a powwow,

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<v Speaker 1>unbeknownst to the Iranians of their top military leadership, and

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<v Speaker 1>then killing them all. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred

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