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BA sports in this segment. How about a little update

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on the BYU women's basketball team. They are taking on

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the number two seed right now Kansas UH and that

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tipped off at I believe three pm Mountain time. It's

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in Wichita, Kansas, so a little bit of a home

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court advantage I guess for the Kansas Jayhawks women's team.

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You can check out the game on ESPN, U and UH.

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Right now Kansas is a leading the game, and they

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lead the series two, I, five and oh most recent

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meetings this year, and so BYU hopefully finding a way

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to survive in advance. They're down three right now now

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in the start of the third quarter thirty one, twenty

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eight and haven't been able to really hit shots there

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at least they're they're three or four from the charity stripe,

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but they're thirty five percent from the field, twenty three

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percent from the three point line. But they're in striking distance,

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no doubt about it. We're gonna welcome at our guests

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should too. Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in,

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my man, Jody Geennessy, formerly of the des Red News

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and covering byu Utah perhaps as well as the Utah Jazz. Jody,

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how you living? Man? Give me updates?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Ben, good to be on with you man. Yeah,

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I'm doing well, so I appreciate you having me on.

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It's been a minute.

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite Twitter follows as well, Jody. Have

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you gotten anybody ticked off at you on Twitter recently?

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That seems to be a staple, you poking the bear

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a little bit. You know.

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Speaker 1: Today I said, Hey, I'm excited to hop lock on

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to sports radio with my man Ben Krittle, and I

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asked for suggestions of what I say, and I even

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said I'd give you a credit perhaps if they gave

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me something worthwhile to say or something worthwhile to mock.

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I only had one response, and it was my friend

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Brady Freddy from Utah. He says, well, whatever you say,

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it's going to make people mad. And then I like this.

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He says, I heart you, my fiend. I don't know

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if he meant friend or fiend, but both were.

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Speaker 2: Well, apparently you're getting people angry with political posts. That

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was the most recently, I think March twenty six. It's

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got fifty thousand interactions.

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Speaker 1: Jody, I was just it was pretty milk toast as well.

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I just, you know, I said, you know, it's just

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it's only jerry mandering depending on which party does it.

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You know, if the other party does it, it's jerry mandering.

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If your party does it, then it was necessary and

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constitutionally correct. So wow, that was a Yeah, that was

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's interesting. So like this is interesting

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because like obviously you were you're phenomenal at what you did,

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right and in covering sports, and and obviously you were

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on beats and other things and colle this etctera. Maybe

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you're you're you're foray, you just haven't you haven't gone

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into it yet, but maybe it's uh it's on the

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political side of things. You really want to draw a

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line in the sand to get people debating talk politics

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or on social media or in the written content piece.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's if I mentioned by you or Utah

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then that, or if I mentioned anything conservative or happen

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to tease the liberals a little bit, both of those

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subjects just go nuts. And it's usually generally the same

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people who are coming after me and telling me how

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big of a moron and how I was called dole,

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what happened to you, Jody, And I actually would like

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to know that as well.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this is who you've always been. It's just you were.

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had to kind of funnel you down a path like, hey,

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you can only write about this, but in reality, this

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is who you've always been.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I like having fun growing up there as a

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family called the Staples. In fact, I ran into them.

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They came to my mom's funeral last week and great friends.

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We were the Byu family. They were the Utah family

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on the on the road and on our Street and

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we just go back and forth, just fun, tongue in cheek,

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just he's you know, and there were friends and nothing

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was ever mean spirited. Every time I make a Utah joke,

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it's intended with that same spirit, and it's never received

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that way on Twitter. Holy cow. But yeah, we had

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a good laugh about the Uau Utah rivalry the other

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day at my mom's funeral. And I love the stapleas

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they need some help on who.

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Speaker 2: They root for.

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Speaker 1: They think we need help on who we root for.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, wow, Hey, I'm sorry, I had no idea.

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I didn't know that you lost your mother, Jody. I mean,

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obviously sports is to kind of like escape from it

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all escapism of athletics and sports and things that nature.

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But I'm glad you were able to reunite with with family, friends,

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and hopefully it was a wonderful celebration of life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my two brothers are pretty funny. I think I'm

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funny sometimes too, So we had a fun time celebrating

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my mom's life and maybe poke in front of her.

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I'm sure we're going to get a scolding at when

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it's our time we are reunited in heaven. She'll be

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like why did you mention that? But she's a great lady.

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She I wrote a Utah Jazz book a few years

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ago at the end of my tenure.

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Speaker 2: There, and.

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Speaker 1: I had the privilege of dedicating the book, and I

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dedicated it to Utah Jazz funds, especially my home team,

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and I mentioned her first and said that she's always

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who passed away a long time ago. He was the

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one who got me into sports, and he loved the

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jazz and by U and one of his flaws is

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that he was a Miami Dolphins fan and not a

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Dealers fan like me. But we we worked with that.

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Speaker 1: But she wasn't the biggest sports time. But when I

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started covering the Utah Jazz Beat, she started reading everything

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I wrote, and she would like text me and she's like,

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I hope the jazz keep Gobier that's what she called him,

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and and Heyward, and I sure liked this group. And

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she would complain to me about the rockets and the

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spurs and the referees and yeah, that was that was

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some fun times to see Patty Guinness. He turned into

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Speaker 2: Love it man. Well, like I said, it's important that

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we have our sports right, Uh, you know when when

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all the real stuff it's we can have a little

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bit of escapism and and have some entertainment while we're

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at it. Jody, give us a little update. Where are

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you working? What are you doing? Do you this covering

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teams and writing about sports at all? I do?

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Speaker 1: I miss it a lot, and I still I still

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find ways to write here and there for the Probo

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So I've actually I've been away from the Desert News

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for a few years. And now I do communications and

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public relations for a health professions university called Rocky Mountain

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University in the old Noble Tower here in Provo. So

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we have an undefeated football team, unlike the other team

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in Provo, but we don't have sports, but we do

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have a mascot. Anyway, I enjoy that. It's it's not

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quite as as exciting as as b y U are

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covering sports and by U and the jazz and whatnot.

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we have a lot of athletic trainers and people like that.

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Colby Clawson who's now overseas athletic training for BYU. He's

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a Rocky Mountain alum. So the first you can take

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the sports writer out of out of the media market,

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but you can't take the sports writer out of out

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of me. So we did Alumni in Sports as our

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Kansas athletic trainer. And so I still write about sports.

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Speaker 2: I love it well. I think you should at least

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every once in a while write about it. I think

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you know, a column with Jody Gennessy. I think we

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could all like if I said, hey, I need you

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to write a column this week. I give you two days.

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What do you going to pontificate on in the world

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of BUE sports, in the world of jazz, where would

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you go? What would you say? What would your thesis be? Jody?

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Speaker 1: Right now, you know everybody is talking about BYU lacrosse.

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Now I'm just gonna I think that they do have

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a big game. It gets Utah Alley on Friday Night

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one versus too. But Obviously, the big question right now

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directly with BYU is how how their basketball season was

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a bit disappointing and how they didn't go further into

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the NCAA tournament. But now everybody's turning their sights on

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the NBA draft and where's aja devots are going to go?

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if he ended up with he got Jazz? So I

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Speaker 2: It might if I.

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Speaker 1: Wanted to rankle some people's feathers or whatever that saying is,

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I might write about the football ticket situation because I

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know my son is kind of upset that Dad didn't

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get thee tickets. But before I could even get a

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chance to they were gone. So I think is the

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hottest top coming up?

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Speaker 2: Look, I like, let's approach both of these. Okay, So

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the Jazz have a what a ten and a half

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percent chance of getting the number one overall pick. We

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all know the history of the Utah Jazz and the lottery,

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and to say the least, it hasn't been fortuitous for

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the Utah Jazz or the New Orleans Jazz for that reason.

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What was it nineteen eighty two. They did end up

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picking Dominique Wilkins first overall, third pick or sorry, first round,

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third overall. They ended up having to trade that one

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because Dominique probably didn't want to play in Utah due

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to whatever reason. They got thorough though in the eighty

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three that was a great pick in the first round.

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John Stockton first round, sixteenth overall. It doesn't seem like

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they've ever really had great draft slots. They got cal

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Ma Malone first pick or sorry, first round, thirteenth overall,

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and eighty five and that ushered in I think a

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pretty good era for the Utah Jazz, etc. But you know,

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are you telling me there's a good chance do you

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think somehow the puppeteers of the NBA bestow upon the

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Jazz finally the lottery pick that has a void them

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for so long in their history, never had they received

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such a blessing. But aj loves BYU, he loves the

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state of Utah. His parents live in Utah. My conspiracy theories,

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this is all puppeteered, Okay, This is all leading up

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to a lottery pick, first overall lottery pick that goes

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to the Utah Jazz. And Tony Jones said he said,

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within three years the Utah Jazz win a championship if

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they get aj Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well, hey, Tony, he's the man, so we we we

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aren't seeing eyed eye on everything. He has Isaiah Thomas

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above John Stockton on his pecking order, and obviously I

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have reversed there. So if Tony is a pretty good

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basketball mind, so yeah, that's there's a lot there. I

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would have thought that maybe the Jazz would get the

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benefit of the doubt and maybe some strings pulled in

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their direction. But then Adam Silver went ahead and find

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them five thousand dollars for when you think a game

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earlier this season.

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Speaker 2: Look, can I give you my theory on this Jody like,

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I think it's all a bunch of orchestra. I think

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it's orchestra, and I think this is Hey, well I

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find him for tanking, you know. So then when he

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does get the pick overall first overall pick, did Jazz

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get a j No one can come back and say, hey,

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this is all conspiracy theories. But I'm out ahead of it.

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I know how the propaganda machine works.

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Speaker 1: This is brilliant, man.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're right. I love this little plot twist.

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Speaker 2: You got going with this, well, are you a conspiracy theorist?

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I wasn't a conspiracy theorist still twenty twenty. Are you

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one now? I am, but I wasn't before.

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Speaker 1: I am not one. But there have been some really

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shady things in the NBA draft, Yeah, really shady. I

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have several big time picks that were traded and then

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that team ends up getting the number one pick the

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next year, most notably recently the Dallas Maverick's getting rid

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of Don Chic and one of the stupidest trades ever.

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But you know, he end up with number one pick.

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So yeah, the Jazz have just been the opposite. They've

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been this model franchise for so many years where they

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refused I mean, they wouldn't even come close to saying tank,

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you know, and to their detriment, they would try to win,

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and even on years or like I remember Jerry Sloan,

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he should have tanked and he still pulled out forty

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two wins. Should have been coaching the year that year

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after Stockton retired, but continuing on tod until recently they

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finally decided, hey, this is the only realistic way we

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can get some top tier talent, and they got a

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Bailey last year, even though the lottery draft didn't favor them.

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His agent helped them out more than anything by being

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a knucklehead and keeping him away from teams.

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Speaker 2: But ACEH.

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Speaker 1: Bailey is a nice player. So I hope AJ ends

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up here in Utah. He would be like the perfect

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He's the missing link for them, the missing piece, and

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I just you know, I didn't get to see him

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play in person, which was really a bummer for me

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this year. But when I watched Lebron James earlier, you know,

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fifteen years ago or so, when I was covering the NBA,

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I would watch him and I was down low on

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the core and it just felt like the court was

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too small for Lebron. I don't know if you've ever

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had that sense, but when I see AJ playing, I

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get a similar sense. He's just so big and so athletic.

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He's not as muscular as Lebron. Obviously, he can cover space.

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He's got that long leg span, white wingspan as well.

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He just can get around. He's got such good footwork.

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He's so big, and he's clever too, So he looks

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a little funky out there sometimes, but then he like

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make this amazing move and he's got so many tools.

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I yeah, I think he's the the no brainer number

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one pick. I know that Peterson and Boozer getting a

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lot of love as well, and you can make some

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arguments for him, but AJ is the man in my book.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, AJ is gonna go first overall. I mean, he's gritty,

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he's competitive, he's uh, you know, he's not injury prone.

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Like I just don't think there's any negative. He's got

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some dog in him too, so you can build a

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you can build an organization around AJ. In my opinion's

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still young, no doubt, but extremely talented and hard working,

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willing to do the lonely work. In my opinion, we

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got Jody Gettessy on the Lion Cougar Sports ESPN The

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fan Talk in some world of BYU Sports. You mentioned

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the ticket issue. You said you would write a column

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about the tickets. What's going on? Why would you? Why

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would you delve into this? You're gonna get a call

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from the SID Why you Why are you throwing the

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ticket scandal into the column?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my my son, my seventeen year old. He's a

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big boy. You fan, He's like dad, you gotta get

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season tickets for US next year. And so I looked

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into it and I thought, oh, maybe I'll join the

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Cougar Club. And I was going to join one of

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the lower tiers. And if I had joined that and pop,

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you know, three hundred bucks or whatever it was going

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to be, I wouldn't even I still wouldn't even get

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a chance to buy season tickets. So look, I get

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the bigger donors are going to get more opportunity to

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buy a bunch of tickets, and I respect that, and

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actually I agree with that, Like twelve, I think it's

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the top level for the athletic Director's circle or whatever

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it is. But I think at some point they're letting

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these these they have these people that you know, they're

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great great great grandfathers help Uyu build the football stadium

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right after bringing young got here, and they're still like

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grandfathered in and they're getting half the seats. And then

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I think they need to limit it to four seats

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instead of six or eight, just get more people an

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opportunity to buy tickets. And I don't know, it's just

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a little frustrating. I get it's a good problem to

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have for the program. Overall, you've got this exciting product.

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Klanie Sataki's an amazing coach. You got Bear, You've got

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all these great things are happening at UA football. So

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that's a good thing. But I think the more people

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you get involved, get their butts in the seats, I

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think that's going to be better for the program overall,

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rather than getting letting so many There's so few people

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buy so many tickets, So that's one of the frustrating

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things for a lot of fans and possibly for me

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as well. I'm used to being up in the press box,

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you know, but now I have a kid that I

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can't bring with me to the press box and got

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to find a way to get him in the seats

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as well. So yeah, I don't know what the right

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answer is. I know DUAU probably mimics what a lot

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of other big time programs do, and so they're not

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doing anything nefarious by any means. But I think maybe

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some serious conversations have to end. They're probably already ongoing,

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and maybe they've already happened, but maybe expanding the stadium

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it's time for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do see that. I do see it sequencing

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out that way. I think I think what they'll do

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is they'll they'll revamp it, remodel, at restructure at et cetera.

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They could do a standing room only portion for the

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time being. I don't know what the fire code says

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or allows in that regard. You could do a standing

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room only area that allows people to kind of watch

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from the balconies, et cetera. But even that's limited. But

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one of the things I brought up tell me, I

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feel like this idea, it's a gift and kind merit allocation.

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So like, Okay, if you don't have the money to

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buy a bunch of you know, to buy your way

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into access, what if but you have time and you

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have a skill set. You know, for instance, Jodi Gannesstry

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wants to allocate his time and resources and talents to

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the building up of Brigham Young University. You can sign

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an NDA, right, you can sign an NDA and and

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aid and support and you know what, whatever it may

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be your your skill set, you know, maybe a crew

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gift and kind cougar club points. You know, you can

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nallocate ten fifteen hours a week to the athletic department

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with your respective skill set, and you a crew per hour,

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a certain amount of dollared points does that make sense?

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And you could probably you know what I mean. Like,

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if you don't have the money, let us work for it.

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Let us work our way up. You know, maybe I

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want to be an usher for the football game. Don't

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pay me, Just give me Cougar Club points, you know

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what I mean. Give me the Cougar Club points. You

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know what I mean. Let me.

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Speaker 1: They might be yelling at me, Hey, hot dog man,

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turn around, tell me hot dog stop watching the game.

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Speaker 2: No, I like that.

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Speaker 1: I have a big box of unsold jazz books that

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I could I could donate. Maybe that could give me

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a little bit of a.

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Speaker 2: Cooper Club points.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they can open up more seats

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for Here's one thing I know. This year they do

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have seven home games, which is because of that order

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dam game. They need their big time program. Now do

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seven games every single season? Play like the other boys,

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you know, just do that. Get more opportunities. Maybe they

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have one game where they don't let season ticket holders go,

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they just open it up for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Hey would I would love to see it. I'm all

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about the ideas. So if you've got great ideas, let

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me know. One last thing, Jody. In the world of

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b a sports. I don't know if you saw this,

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but b weave baseball finding a way to hit dingers

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walk off home runs two of them, I believe. Over

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the weekend versus Oklahoma State. Are the Batcats back? Are

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they ready, finally, hopefully ready and willing to compete in

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the Big twelve and win some baseball games?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I saw that. In fact, my son loves baseball too,

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So we're gonna be heading over there to Miller Stadium.

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That's a beautiful place to beautiful venue. And I love

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the they had to walk off catch there in the

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outfield against the youth.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Utah's new, really cool stadium as well. So I know

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there's a bunch of Big twelve teams at five and

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four and by US four and five, and so there's

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a logjam in the middle. But they've got Yeah, they've

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got a nice team. They kind of had a few

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years where they were down in the dumps, but it

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looks like they're they're coming back, and they got some

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pop in their bat and some nice pictures. So that

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would be really fun because they have a nice legacy.

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Big Twelves are a tough team, but they do get

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a lot of I don't know, five six teams into

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the World Series, so let's hope that they keep on going.

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That's fun. We need some stuff to cheer about in

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the spring.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it. Amen to that, Jody. Always appreciate

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our time together. Glad you're able to hop on for

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the little world to BYU Sports and can't wait for

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your column. Can't wait for that that that independent contractor column.

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Wherever you want to write it, I'll you post it,

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I'll retweet it, I'll read it, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it gets me some Cougar Club bucks and doesn't

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get me banned from the stadium.

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Speaker 2: So there you go, like, hey, just just allox. It's like, look,

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I'm really I'm late, willing and ready to do press

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releases for Sugar Club points. Whatever it is that you needed, Skid,

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you could totally do it.

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Speaker 1: I want if nothing else, I want some Bend bucks.

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So there we go.

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Speaker 2: I'll take you out to dinner, man, I'll help you

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on your quest for a little bit of side hustle. Jody,

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we said please, We appreciate your brother, Thanks as always

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for hopping on and talking to some ball with us today.

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Speaker 1: Have me back anytime, Ben, good chat.

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Speaker 2: With you, buddy, all right, appreciate you, Jody Gennessy, Ladies

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