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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY Kostin's Me Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Dan, I appreciate it. Six p seven ten

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<v Speaker 2>thirty is the number here still to come of the program.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to go to Hollywood. We are going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the oscars. Odie Henderson joins us from

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<v Speaker 2>the Globe on who should get what? And then our

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<v Speaker 2>conservative friend from the West Coast, Yes, he is the unicorn,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the moderate. Sem Metler joins us from Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all coming up at eleven o'clock and joining us

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<v Speaker 2>right now he's David Alcott, and we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about what's going on with Canada and Mexico. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>are is there going to be a battle at the border, David?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is Trump now looking like a genius because the

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<v Speaker 2>two sides are talking and to just kind of set

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<v Speaker 2>it over everybody. You know, Trump wanted the church twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five percent tariff for Canada twenty five percent of Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Mexico's sending ten grand, ten thousand soldiers to stop

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<v Speaker 2>the drugs, and now Trudeau wants to talk to Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>So where are we at right now with this?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're getting a witness for maybe the first time

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<v Speaker 3>in our lifetime is this very high stakes negotiation poker,

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<v Speaker 3>if you will, And that's what's being played out writing

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<v Speaker 3>in the midst of all these things happening, and something

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<v Speaker 3>is probably should have happened for a long time, but

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<v Speaker 3>become the ministration is getting it done.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is it? Yeah, I mean you have to wait

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<v Speaker 2>and see what happens, obviously, I mean, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see what But he comes out, guns blaring and

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<v Speaker 2>he says that's it. And when I saw, when I

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<v Speaker 2>saw the twenty five percent, I was like, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. Something's got to give. So I'm not surprised

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to China in a minute. But I mean, so,

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<v Speaker 2>what what do you think at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>day happens, Because right now he's talking about the drug

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<v Speaker 2>trade right, which I think is impossible to stop. You

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<v Speaker 2>could have a million soldiers at the border because of

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<v Speaker 2>addiction in America. I don't know if you're or around

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<v Speaker 2>the world. I don't know if you're ever going to

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<v Speaker 2>stop it. But because the cartel are on Mexico right

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I'm concerned, I mean, what's the end

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<v Speaker 2>game here? Does it really work.

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<v Speaker 3>Well with that really high powered negotiation. You've got to

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<v Speaker 3>have this leverage between them because the terriffs aren't really

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<v Speaker 3>the leverage he's playing with that from my standpoint, and

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<v Speaker 3>the real thing is what does Mexico really want out

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<v Speaker 3>of this? What are they Okay, they don't want terrorists,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's going to really impact their ability to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to send imports and explorer supports. But their real

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<v Speaker 3>things that are after is the manufacturing jobs that are

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<v Speaker 3>coming from China. Because the world is changing right now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's such a dramatic fashion, so all those manufacturing jobs

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<v Speaker 3>that we've had across the world are now being focused

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<v Speaker 3>on Canada and Mexico, and that's what they really want.

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<v Speaker 3>All those jobs keep those politicians in power. Getting those

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<v Speaker 3>jobs over those parts of the country are just huge

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<v Speaker 3>for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Do jobs in Mexico help their battle against the drug trade?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yes, that's exactly what the hope is. But there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of intrenched stuff that we have to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to do with the drug The first thing from

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<v Speaker 3>my perspective, is be able to stop the cartel managing

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<v Speaker 3>those things in our own country, in our own forests.

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<v Speaker 3>We've really got to take a look at that first.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you explained so.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, a lot of the drug trade that's being produced,

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<v Speaker 3>or the marijuana use that's legal in our country, from

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<v Speaker 3>my understanding, is that as being actually created in our

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<v Speaker 3>natural forests. People have run into these these places over

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<v Speaker 3>and over again and they're like, hey, why are the

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<v Speaker 3>cartels across the border in our forests actually creating these

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<v Speaker 3>kind of cannabis sanctuaries? And how do we stop those? First?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how do you stop Yeah, because it's legal, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you stop it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Who is running those things? Because a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>cartels aren't, you know, focusing on the different things that

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<v Speaker 3>are making you know, marijuana safer Americans. If we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to use it, let's make sure it's safe and run

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<v Speaker 3>through the proper channels, not being run by an outside

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<v Speaker 3>organization that uses all kinds of wild chemicals and everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean that's true. I mean, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know the cocaine Listen, as long as I've been alive

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<v Speaker 2>that the people, I mean, I've never used it. It

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<v Speaker 2>scares the listen. I'm not a saint by any stretch.

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly drank enough beer to choke a dinosaur. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I think it's all the same, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people that look at alcohol, it's all it's

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<v Speaker 2>all numbing, it's all medication. So but like the cocaine stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>it just won't go away. I mean they Mexico makes

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<v Speaker 2>so much damn money on it, it just will not

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<v Speaker 2>It just will not go away. The addiction is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, there's some conversations about you know that

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<v Speaker 3>Mexico doesn't want to stop the way of that trade either,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's such a big part of the ability to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to pay off debt. So lots of conversations

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to have about it. It's really just

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<v Speaker 3>starting at our borders.

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<v Speaker 2>First, David, I don't follow you on that. The cocaine

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<v Speaker 2>trade helps the country of Mexico pay off debt.

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<v Speaker 3>So income coming in from that starts to help out

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<v Speaker 3>the economy in those countries, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because the cars will spend money in Mexico, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and then that money transfers up into the government,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and that gets the day off those debts

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<v Speaker 3>and they have huge that's for the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's it. Yeah, So what do you think is

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<v Speaker 2>going on with China? The ten percent there. What's his

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<v Speaker 2>motivation with that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I definitely think that, you know, being in alignments

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<v Speaker 3>to Mexico and Canada are a little easier fixed because

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<v Speaker 3>they want those manufacturing jobs. Those jobs are leaving China

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<v Speaker 3>right now. So what's what's the leverage point? The tariffs

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<v Speaker 3>aren't enough? What does China really want is the question?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the big unknown is what is the trumb

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<v Speaker 3>administration going to be able to give to the Chinese

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<v Speaker 3>folks to be able to pay not do these tariffs

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<v Speaker 3>in place of this And that's still the big question.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but also ten percent if you pass it. Look

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<v Speaker 2>if when teriffs are implemented, it's always passed along to

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<v Speaker 2>the consumer, twenty five percent is a big chunk. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to buy imported goods from China, is

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent a deal breaker?

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's It was twenty five percent for the other

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<v Speaker 3>two right that made it really stand up? Why only

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<v Speaker 3>ten percent for China? And that's an interesting dynamic that

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<v Speaker 3>are really I'll know the answer to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, it just I don't think they have the

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<v Speaker 2>same negotiating Obviously, Trump doesn't have the leverage with China

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<v Speaker 2>that he had with the other two countries, I would agree, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that's something going on there. But because

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<v Speaker 2>as Americans were so damn spoiled, we even when we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the money, we pay for it. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>the credit card companies are killing us, you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>or we're killing ourselves, I should say, But I just

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<v Speaker 2>think goods, you know, ten percent is I think. I

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<v Speaker 2>just think people will pay for it. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what that will do for Trump in that regard.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any angle here that he's doing this to

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<v Speaker 2>create jobs in America?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's exactly what you know of all of

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<v Speaker 3>our apologistically wants how to bring those jobs back to America.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's really about focusing on Okay, if the manufacturing

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<v Speaker 3>is really changing costs globally and starting to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to start fundally focusing in Mexico and Canada, how do

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<v Speaker 3>we continue to bring those jobs here when we have

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<v Speaker 3>a workforce that really doesn't want a lot of those jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>So that becomes our next issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, we do that, then, yeah, that's a problem

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<v Speaker 2>because if you know, when I've talked to people in

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<v Speaker 2>the service industry, for example, Okay, there are people in

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<v Speaker 2>America without jobs that will not work in the service industry. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they refuse to. They'd rather take unemployment or lie. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, do you have to create? And if

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<v Speaker 2>you take a look at companies that are international companies

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<v Speaker 2>and they can make the product cheaper overseas than in America.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a tough it's a tough road ahead

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<v Speaker 2>for the president.

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<v Speaker 3>And now I'm going to say word is probably going

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<v Speaker 3>to get me in troubled with a lot of the listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is where the immigration conversation finally comes down.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, that's a tease, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you about that next because that's a big issue too. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>David Walcott is David Alcott. I'm sorry, David is joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>The book is Sorts of Illumination. Check it out on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 2>What with David Coming up next on WBC.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Garian for day Tonight six four thirty. The author

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<v Speaker 2>of Sorts of Illumination, a book about how to give

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<v Speaker 2>back that feeling of a sense of destiny. David Alcott.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds really.

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<v Speaker 3>Deep, Yes, sir, it is. It's took me a long

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<v Speaker 3>time to write that.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get back to the talk, what exactly is

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<v Speaker 2>it about? Why should I read it?

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<v Speaker 3>So so many of us are are walking through this

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<v Speaker 3>life with a sense of Hey, what went wrong here?

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<v Speaker 3>What's what's this life really about? And that book is

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<v Speaker 3>really thirty five years that I've been really focusing on

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<v Speaker 3>finding out what this place is really about. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>really about finding out how to not change the world necessarily,

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<v Speaker 3>but to change your experience of the world we're having.

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<v Speaker 3>Those people are very successful on this planet then have

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<v Speaker 3>this incredible ability to create their own identity and then

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<v Speaker 3>start really living that life based upon that identity, which

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<v Speaker 3>is very different from how most of us live by

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<v Speaker 3>the whim or reaction to people's events in their lives.

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<v Speaker 4>Stuff like this.

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<v Speaker 3>People really want to get back to being who they

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<v Speaker 3>really are, creating that sense of destiny. That's the book

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<v Speaker 3>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes a lot of concentration. You have to turn

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<v Speaker 2>out the noise, you really do, because listen, if you

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<v Speaker 2>have to shut out the noise from your relatives, you

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<v Speaker 2>know you got to turn out the noise. Look, you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a guy who left a small town in

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<v Speaker 2>Maine to be a broadcaster in Boston and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody thinks you could have what you're kidding me, You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna shut out the noise. Yeah. Anyways, So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good book. Check it out. Have I read it? No,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know we like Dave all right, So let's

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<v Speaker 2>get back to the tariffs here. You now you just

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned the I word immigration. Is that all? How how

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<v Speaker 2>does this all tie you away?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's interesting because making connections is what we really

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<v Speaker 3>do here at Samurai Success, helping business owners really see

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<v Speaker 3>the connection because connections really help you with comprehension to

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<v Speaker 3>truly understand something so you can apply it. So these

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<v Speaker 3>connections that we're talking about, it's like, how does immigration

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<v Speaker 3>have anything to do with interest rates? Inflation and this

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why when you see some of these graphs

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<v Speaker 3>of the last administration pouring all these immigrants in here,

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<v Speaker 3>is because a lot of the jobs that people just

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<v Speaker 3>hods to call whatever it looks like. And the immigration

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<v Speaker 3>force takes over those jobs, which then lowers that price again.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody wants to do It's a blind demand, and all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, you have a whole labor force now

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<v Speaker 2>More for I'll tell you in my town, the people

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<v Speaker 2>great work. Phenomenal work that that, and they're they're they're excited,

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<v Speaker 2>there's an opportunity to do it. You can't. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>I call, you know, I'll call my contractor immediately he's there. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not cheap, it's fair, but they're doing the work.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how does this how does this How does

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<v Speaker 2>this affect America long term? This work ethic? I talked

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<v Speaker 2>world is in jeopardy. Is that an over statement?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's why you're seeing so much pressure on

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<v Speaker 3>for us, of course, is the demographics. I mean, kids

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<v Speaker 3>today are very different. When it came to us, we

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<v Speaker 3>identified work as our identity who we are, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>our ability to work and make money and do all

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff, and theirs is so different. They're wanting to

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<v Speaker 3>go to work, get a paycheck, and so they can

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<v Speaker 3>go and do some kind of other experience. Their identity

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<v Speaker 3>isn't tied to this.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a student I was teaching Todd at Emerson

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and this person I had connected and with

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<v Speaker 2>I need some time off, and I would what we

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<v Speaker 2>but we have totally. Yeah, we've screwed this generation up.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me add to that mixture of that stuff. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>imagine you're you're a smart kid. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>these kids aren't unintelligent, man.

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<v Speaker 2>They're no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>And so now you're a child, right, and you watch

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<v Speaker 3>your mom and dad come home, or your mom or

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<v Speaker 3>your single tell whatever it is, they come home and

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<v Speaker 3>all they do is complain about work. What do you

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<v Speaker 3>think that teaches us?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Very I mean, seriously, we have done this to ourselves, right,

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<v Speaker 3>We've got to take responsibility for getting back on track.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the misty element.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're right, No, you're absolutely right. They hear us

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's an excellent point. I didn't I didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>about that. I didn't we talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't go on vacation.

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<v Speaker 3>Has been years since I've had a vacation. I never

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<v Speaker 3>have enough and these kids are listening. We have taught

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<v Speaker 3>them exactly to be the kids they are today, the

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we also there's also a feeling that you can

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<v Speaker 2>of the house, or you know, or twenty three or

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four before you're off the payroll. You know. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that's got to stop. You know that that to me,

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<v Speaker 2>that that that that gets a little crazy. Back to

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<v Speaker 2>the I just had this quite on the immigration thing. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats will point out to Obama deported a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people, Biden deported a lot of people, and now

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<v Speaker 2>obviously Trump is you know, running rampant here doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Are those fair comments? Is Trump doing anything differently as

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, it's been again just a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>weeks into his administration kind of stuff, But this is

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<v Speaker 3>which he's following through with so far. Just says I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to start taking the folks that did not go

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<v Speaker 3>into the proper channels and a realistic immigration policy, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to return you back to your countries, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to take them and it's just something we

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<v Speaker 2>Well we haven't seen it to this degree, but past

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<v Speaker 2>administrations are claiming that they did the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe they just didn't publicize it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean this is what he does. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is I mean he's P. T. Barnum. Yeactly, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that this is exactly what he does. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>see the movie The Apprentice? I did unbelievable, very much.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to watch it, people, And I understand it's Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>We understand it's been dramatized and so forth. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do believe the spine is pretty accurate and this guy

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<v Speaker 2>has been did not. I mean the first thing that

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<v Speaker 2>Roy Cohen is deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny. It

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't changed. It hasn't changed, listen, deny, deny, deny, deny.

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<v Speaker 2>And he just got elected again. Not only did he

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<v Speaker 2>he got bounced and then got elected again by deny, deny, deny.

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<v Speaker 2>If people haven't watched it, at you Apprentice, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to watch it. I understand it's a movie, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>some truth to it. Don't you think I would agree? Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just it's just absolutely laughable. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>So what should we look at down the road? What's

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're definitely in you know, is I think the

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<v Speaker 3>going to be dealing with. We're going to be dealing

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<v Speaker 3>with this for a while. And business owners specifically, how

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<v Speaker 3>this affects us is that opportunity really exists in this

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<v Speaker 3>place of chaos. And that's the real message you like

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<v Speaker 3>to share with people, is that, yes, there's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be craziness that you're not used to, that we've never

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<v Speaker 3>seen anything like this before. And yet if you're really,

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<v Speaker 3>really wise about this, you can really take advantage of

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<v Speaker 3>service people in your business. That's the real great message.

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<v Speaker 2>So you see an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>I see a huge opportunity in the next four years,

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<v Speaker 3>huge opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you be a little more specific? I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you can't because you're talking about it in such

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<v Speaker 2>a broad sense, but can you give me some specific

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you can already see that the Wall Street what

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<v Speaker 3>is reacting to today, of course, right the ups and

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<v Speaker 3>downs and things like this. And I will tell you

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<v Speaker 3>every great investor we've ever studied has made more money

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<v Speaker 3>and downturns than they have an upturns. So there's a

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<v Speaker 3>very very interesting perspective right there, this wild roller coaster,

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<v Speaker 3>that there's opportunity in that. You just have to spend time.

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<v Speaker 3>And like you said earlier areas is you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>just break the noise. Why you're being so successful as

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<v Speaker 3>life is you got away from everybody else's chatter about you, Gary,

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to figure out who you are and what

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<v Speaker 3>you want in this lifetime, and that's when opportunity shows

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<v Speaker 2>So Bilo sell high perfect. I mean, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>as old as the hills. But yeah, it's true. Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>that now more than ever. I mean, And that's something

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<v Speaker 2>I tell my son, you know where I go, just

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<v Speaker 2>turn in my kids, Just turn out the noise. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to pay your bills, obviously, but just just just

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<v Speaker 2>turn out, definitely turn out the noise. And my kid,

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<v Speaker 2>my kid at seventeen, was looking at the market. I said, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I go I don't. That's one thing I will tell

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<v Speaker 2>this generation. And I've told my kids, look at the

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<v Speaker 2>stock market. Take any money that you have and start

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<v Speaker 2>investing as soon as you can, because I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how you're going to make extra money. Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how you're going to get ahead. You can get

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<v Speaker 2>into sales and you can make big commissions, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you don't play the stock market from

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<v Speaker 2>when you're eighteen and put them in it, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how people are going to get ahead. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to work overtime? Is there going to be overtime

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<v Speaker 2>with AI? Will there be double overtime for people? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I come from a town where we had a

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<v Speaker 2>paper mill that people with a high school education could

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<v Speaker 2>work double time on Sunday. They were union. That meant

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<v Speaker 2>they made forty dollars an hour on a Sunday. Those

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<v Speaker 2>days are gone, am I right?

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<v Speaker 3>The greats are agreed. Well, you gotta just you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>get for the business owner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you have to people. People have to

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<v Speaker 2>look at them student. Young people have to look at

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<v Speaker 2>themselves as an individual, corporation or entity. Yes, maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>should write a book perfect all right, Well you should

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<v Speaker 2>check it out Source of Illumination. David Arcott Samurai for

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<v Speaker 2>success and I really appreciate you coming on, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>do it again down the road whenever I'm filling in.

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<v Speaker 3>Tom's very okay, I'm great. Thanks for having me on

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<v Speaker 3>the show.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. David Allcott with us here on wb

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<v Speaker 2>some calls to get ahead to ten o'clock. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do some oscars. Baby. You guys know I love the movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom in West Virginia, West Virginia, not Virginia, West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up next on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan on WBZ Boston's news.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio by Garian for Dan tonight six one, seven, two,

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<v Speaker 2>four thirty. I would like to thank Dave Alcott for

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<v Speaker 2>coming on talking about the Taris Taris tariff, Boyd, the

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<v Speaker 2>big thing here is the immigration. That's that is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is getting right after it. He's putting it up

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<v Speaker 2>as a billboard. But as the Democrats have pointed out,

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<v Speaker 2>they've done so in the past, there has to be

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<v Speaker 2>a way to do it with some sort of a system.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think the country has wanted to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't wanted to deal with it. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>have the question about the whole labor force. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>great point. We've raised our kids here in America. There

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<v Speaker 2>are certain jobs they're just too good for. That are

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<v Speaker 2>the people who come into this country and they want

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<v Speaker 2>to make a living and they want to do something

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<v Speaker 2>for their families they're not too proud to take. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to tom in West Virginia, not Virginia. West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you closeer to Pittsburgh?

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<v Speaker 4>Ye? No, I'm in Pocahontas County, the most rural county

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<v Speaker 4>in West Virginia. My mother grew up here. I grew

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<v Speaker 4>up in Foxboro, Massachusetts. I'm a retired member of the

427
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<v Speaker 4>IVW Local one oh three in Boston. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>speaking of Maine, two towns i've worked in Mattawaska nineteen

429
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<v Speaker 4>eighty nine Fraser Paper and the other one in Waterville, Maine.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll think of that name. In nineteen ninety you never

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<v Speaker 4>worked at.

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<v Speaker 2>You never worked in Rumford? Huh?

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<v Speaker 4>No, that was International Paper, if I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Rumford was Oxford Paper Company, which later became Boise

435
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<v Speaker 2>Cascade International was in j.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, Well, anyway, and I do remember the

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<v Speaker 4>strike in Jay Maine. B b ian K went in

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<v Speaker 4>and they did a construction expansion as well as a

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<v Speaker 4>paperworker's strike, and they busted the union.

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<v Speaker 3>There.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a union man. I never crossed a picket line.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you understand me? Yes or no?

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<v Speaker 2>I understand you too. I'm a union man as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I remember that very well. So here's the point.

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<v Speaker 4>Number one. As far as these free trade agreements, I

446
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<v Speaker 4>remember in nineteen ninety two with Bill Clinton and the

447
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<v Speaker 4>little guy who was the Secretary of Labor. It will

448
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<v Speaker 4>come to me Robert Reich, three of them said, all

449
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<v Speaker 4>three of them said three things for union slobs like me.

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<v Speaker 4>One it will create good paying jobs in America. Two,

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<v Speaker 4>it'll cut down an illegal immigration coming to America from Mexico.

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<v Speaker 4>Three it will cut down an illegal immigration. None of

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<v Speaker 4>those predictions ever came true.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm lost. I'm losing something when you said it,

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<v Speaker 2>What is it?

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<v Speaker 4>NaSTA? Come on, man, I got a brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Beck, dude, you ma'am, no, listen, I'm not in

458
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<v Speaker 2>the mood. I'm not in the mood for this crap.

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<v Speaker 2>You have something to say. I didn't understand what you

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<v Speaker 2>were saying. I simply asked the question, if you can't

461
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<v Speaker 2>be polite, I don't want to deal with you softer. Fine,

462
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<v Speaker 2>I do a brain. I didn't know what you were

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, smart ask so I apologize. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 2>NAFTA, Yes, American tree.

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<v Speaker 4>And none of those predictions came true? Did they too?

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<v Speaker 4>Did they come true? You? Now? Next? Okay? Now, free

468
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<v Speaker 4>trade with China? What were we told back then on

469
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<v Speaker 4>National Public Radio with the intellectuals of Boston, Oh, if

470
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<v Speaker 4>we do free, if we do most favored trading with China,

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<v Speaker 4>And this was include the esteem senator from Boston or Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 4>John Kerry. Most favorite trading with China will give us

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<v Speaker 4>great jobs in America which didn't happen, China will become

474
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<v Speaker 4>more of a democracy, which did not happen, and China

475
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<v Speaker 4>will be less likely to build up their military. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry. I don't have a college degree. I'm a

477
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<v Speaker 4>license electrician. That's my claim to fame. None of those

478
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<v Speaker 4>predictions came through. And and the smart people in New

479
00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:08.119
<v Speaker 4>England called people like me that work for a living morons.

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<v Speaker 4>And I voted for Donald Trump, whether her these listeners

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<v Speaker 4>like it or not.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm not going to call you a moron.

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<v Speaker 4>None of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

485
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<v Speaker 4>I've been called hang on, I've been called a moron

486
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<v Speaker 4>on National Public radio in Boston. That's not your fight.

487
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<v Speaker 4>I'm just telling you, as well as other low rated

488
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<v Speaker 4>AM radio stations, from progressive nonprofit radio stations in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's the point. None of those predictions that we

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<v Speaker 4>were told in the Boston Globe and the New York

491
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<v Speaker 4>Times ever came true. And somehow I'm a bad person

492
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<v Speaker 4>because I disrespect my union leadership telling me, oh no,

493
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<v Speaker 4>Kamala Harris is going to be the new messiah to

494
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<v Speaker 4>the working man in this time country? Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 4>And as far as immigration is concerned, I don't begrudge

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<v Speaker 4>any person coming to this country for a better life. However,

497
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<v Speaker 4>when you have people that are coming here in desperation,

498
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<v Speaker 4>that are being exploited by employers. And it was the

499
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<v Speaker 4>unions back in the nineties that pushed Everify that both

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<v Speaker 4>the Republicans and the Democrats would not pass. You know

501
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<v Speaker 4>what am I told on? When someone's urinating on my

502
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<v Speaker 4>leg and telling me it's not raining from either side

503
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<v Speaker 4>of the political aisle, somehow I'm stupid. You've got to

504
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<v Speaker 4>be kidding me. I want people to come from this

505
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<v Speaker 4>to this country. I don't care if they're from Africa, Asia,

506
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<v Speaker 4>Central America, or whoever. Number One, I want them vetted.

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<v Speaker 4>Number two, I want them to be screen medically. As

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<v Speaker 4>my first wife that I met in nineteen eighty three,

509
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<v Speaker 4>she was from eighty she was quarantined for a week

510
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<v Speaker 4>in a hotel in Miami to make sure she didn't

511
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<v Speaker 4>have communicable diseases. That was before age. And they used

512
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<v Speaker 4>to do that at Ellis Island. And somehow I'm a racist,

513
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<v Speaker 4>according to the National Public radio crowd for me saying that, well,

514
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<v Speaker 4>maybe we should quarantine these people. And need I remind

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<v Speaker 4>you that during the pandemic with Joe Biden in twenty

516
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<v Speaker 4>twenty one, they let people in the southern border that

517
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<v Speaker 4>were not required to get the vaccines, as were people

518
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<v Speaker 4>in public service in this country that had to get

519
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<v Speaker 4>the vaccine or face firing. What am I missing? You

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<v Speaker 4>tell me where I'm wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what I do agree with you on is there

522
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<v Speaker 2>needs to be a better system on how people come

523
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<v Speaker 2>into the country. There's no doubt about that. Okay, there's

524
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<v Speaker 2>no question, And I know and I don't understand why

525
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<v Speaker 2>it hasn't been undertaken by either party. I really don't

526
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<v Speaker 2>to me, they'd like to use it as a political plank.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they want.

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<v Speaker 4>Ronald Reagan in nineteen ninety six or eighty six, excuse me,

529
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<v Speaker 4>when he passed amnesty for mostly European immigrants, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of them from Ireland. Back then, the deal was, we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to secure our border and we're going to fix

532
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<v Speaker 4>our immigration with regards to feeding up people that are

533
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<v Speaker 4>here that aren't criminals or whatever. Okay, neither party has

534
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 4>done that. And look at the Republicans. You have mint

535
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<v Speaker 4>Romney Republicans that want cheap labor from south of the border.

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<v Speaker 4>And God bless those people. Okay, they work very hard.

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<v Speaker 4>I would never ever put down someone from Ecuador or wherever. Okay,

538
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:04.359
<v Speaker 4>they work very hard as the same people as as

539
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:09.400
<v Speaker 4>other ethnic groups do. But they want cheap labor. The

540
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:13.279
<v Speaker 4>Democrats want cheap votes. It's not hard to figure out.

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<v Speaker 4>And what Joe Biden did over the last three and

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<v Speaker 4>a half years of his administration h w COVID four years.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, while COVID was going on, no, get as

544
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<v Speaker 4>many people in here as possible, and hopefully we can

545
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<v Speaker 4>make them citizens to have a political domination of those

546
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:39.279
<v Speaker 4>people will be dependent on government. Please tell me where

547
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<v Speaker 4>I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>That backfired. Well, I'll tell you that backfire on Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate the phone call. Tom. Let's go to John

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<v Speaker 2>and Foxbrog. John, you're up on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 5>They can hear me.

552
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<v Speaker 2>I can hear you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I just had a disagreement. How build their developer

554
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<v Speaker 5>contractor in regards to you went undocumented coming in doing

555
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<v Speaker 5>the landscape. And I think it's a misnomer because right now,

556
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<v Speaker 5>with the labor shortage, the people that are coming in

557
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<v Speaker 5>charge just as much, if not more than American citizens

558
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<v Speaker 5>to do. But the problem is they're not insured and

559
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<v Speaker 5>a lot of times they get an accident. And I

560
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<v Speaker 5>can and I can speak firsthand. I never hired anybody subcontractor. Wise,

561
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<v Speaker 5>I won't let anybody in the properties because well, five

562
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<v Speaker 5>years ago, I had a guy that's working for me

563
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<v Speaker 5>from Brazil, real good kid, he's trying to get his papers,

564
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<v Speaker 5>doing everything in the right way, but most of his

565
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:47.720
<v Speaker 5>cousins were here illegally. And what they were doing was

566
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<v Speaker 5>there were any money that they made, they were sending

567
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<v Speaker 5>back to Brazil.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>The cousin was trying to do it the right way,

570
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<v Speaker 5>but what happened was two of their cousins gotten accidents.

571
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<v Speaker 5>We want to cut there at Kelley's tend to no

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<v Speaker 5>more clear through on one of the machines that they

573
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<v Speaker 5>weren't supposed to be operating. And what they did was

574
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<v Speaker 5>the fourth homeowner got sued because the guy that had

575
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<v Speaker 5>hired them on the job didn't have insurance. So the

576
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<v Speaker 5>other thing too, is like I've got to go to

577
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<v Speaker 5>classes for all my license, construction supervisor's license, every license,

578
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<v Speaker 5>real estate license, you know, I have to pay assurance,

579
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<v Speaker 5>my liabilities, all that stuff. The advantage is they don't

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<v Speaker 5>have the licenses. Okay, Right, So my cousin's very left.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never been a political person in my life. I

582
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<v Speaker 5>didn't like Bush. I don't have a favorite team. In

583
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<v Speaker 5>other words, Okay, so I played in the middle. My

584
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.599
<v Speaker 5>cousin's a building. He's really far left, and he's like, well,

585
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<v Speaker 5>they need work, And I'm like, Michael, would you hire

586
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<v Speaker 5>him to frame a house, you know, for your mother

587
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<v Speaker 5>in law? You wouldn't because they don't have a license,

588
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<v Speaker 5>so they don't have the education or even you know,

589
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<v Speaker 5>the schooling of the licenses. Uh, to know the codes

590
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<v Speaker 5>in other worlds, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, and you're right, no, I understand it because

592
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<v Speaker 2>I better you're.

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<v Speaker 5>Not to interrupted. But the other thing too, is it's

594
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<v Speaker 5>like you're treating these people like the slave labor. Like

595
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<v Speaker 5>they're coming in and it' it's like, okay, well they're

596
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<v Speaker 5>so cheap and might as well just have them just

597
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<v Speaker 5>to clean out toilets and you know, pick crop. It's

598
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<v Speaker 5>not like that anymore anyway. It's very intelligent. And the

599
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<v Speaker 5>thing is, you know, I like Trump since I was

600
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<v Speaker 5>a kid, because I was a developer, okay, and he's

601
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<v Speaker 5>a businessman. I have this argument all the time. I'd

602
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<v Speaker 5>rather have the guy that's ability, that that runs businesses

603
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<v Speaker 5>and writes checks, you know, pays millions and millions of

604
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<v Speaker 5>dollars in real estate taxes. I own a lot of

605
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<v Speaker 5>properties too. Those those corporations employed people which go to

606
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<v Speaker 5>work and pay taxes. It's very different than administration. All

607
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<v Speaker 5>the politicians they don't make a creat anything in the

608
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<v Speaker 5>ostilium when they take that tax pay money like the

609
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<v Speaker 5>ntos that they've bring these people that they're supposed to

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<v Speaker 5>be non government employees, they're all getting kickbacks into the administration.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's the other scope of.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like this.

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<v Speaker 5>If you ever saw the movie star phase when Fidel

614
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<v Speaker 5>Castro emptied out the prisons and all that stuff, that's

615
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<v Speaker 5>in the smallest skill. Those are only thousands of people.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know because I owned property in South Beach

617
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<v Speaker 5>and it was a good thing that worked for me,

618
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<v Speaker 5>because that crime wave destroyed Miami and Self Beach back then,

619
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<v Speaker 5>you couldn't give property away. Then when the psycho reverted

620
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<v Speaker 5>back and all the hard working Cubans that came here

621
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<v Speaker 5>from a communist country that wanted to work, they didn't

622
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<v Speaker 5>want those drug deals in there. So imagine all the

623
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<v Speaker 5>people from two hundred countries coming in, all the gang leaders,

624
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<v Speaker 5>all this. They had three cousins die of vatanyl overdoses.

625
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<v Speaker 5>I'm talking about first hand experiences. Now, this is like,

626
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<v Speaker 5>this is like the Mario boat lift on steroids.

627
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<v Speaker 2>You I'm trying to follow you, dude. You just gave

628
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<v Speaker 2>me a ton to think about. So to wrap it up,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have a solution.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the solution is going on right now. You steal

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<v Speaker 5>the border, so you go. So you have one politician

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<v Speaker 5>Tonya the board is okay, and you know, we can't

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<v Speaker 5>do anything. And Donald Trump comes in, he's been for

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<v Speaker 5>a week, and they shut ninety three percent of it down.

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<v Speaker 5>Let them come in the right way, right, So they

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<v Speaker 5>would say, well, what's the right way do it? Like

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<v Speaker 5>my friend Willie who was from Brazil, he didn't want

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<v Speaker 5>to come in. And here's the other thing too, is

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<v Speaker 5>all the cousins weren't wealthy. They all had hev T cards.

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<v Speaker 5>They were living in a multi family house with forty

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<v Speaker 5>people in the house. Okay, right, so that's what they do.

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<v Speaker 5>So here's the thing. You know, the last cause said, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know it's good because you know you don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to get rid of these workers because you know they're cheap.

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<v Speaker 5>That's number one. That's wrong. That's not even true because

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<v Speaker 5>you're paying them just as much money. Okay. But but

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<v Speaker 5>but the problem is you're paying them as much money,

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<v Speaker 5>and then they're not paying taxes. Okay, they're living for free,

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<v Speaker 5>right all right, and they're getting food stamps and all that.

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<v Speaker 5>I have the biggest time in the world. I have

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<v Speaker 5>people living down the street for me in one of

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<v Speaker 5>the motels. I wish I own the motels you get

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<v Speaker 5>seventy year contracts. They're all filled up with mostly Hatians

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<v Speaker 5>over here. I'm I'm in stopping shop one day. They

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<v Speaker 5>don't even speak English. Some of them. They're the nicest

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<v Speaker 5>people in the world because they're families. I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 5>about like, they're not drug dealers. I have the cashier

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<v Speaker 5>arguing because the young woman's had diapers and it was

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<v Speaker 5>late at night, and the lady's like, oh, you can't

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<v Speaker 5>pay for that on this I just looked out my

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<v Speaker 5>credit card. I handed it right, right, right, and then

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<v Speaker 5>I gave him right home. I don't want to see

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<v Speaker 5>anybody heard. But the biggest thing is it's just it's

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<v Speaker 5>all political and it's a headaches, you know why.

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<v Speaker 2>John. The bottom line, as we wrap it up, and

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate your passion and your insight, and you've been

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<v Speaker 2>a very good caller, is the truth always lies somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle. And one of the topics I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to discuss in the next few days when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in for Dan is why do we have to

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<v Speaker 2>be a country of extremes. We either go far to

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<v Speaker 2>the left or far to the right. Now, what you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about is reasonable. You're talking about an immigration system

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<v Speaker 2>where people can come into the country legally, be properly insured,

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<v Speaker 2>and become part of the workforce. We've put people on

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<v Speaker 2>the moon, we have cured diseases, and for some reason

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<v Speaker 2>we can't do it. And the truth always lies somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle. You don't want to be you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be inhumane to people, but you you have

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<v Speaker 2>to have a system, so there's some sense of sanity.

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<v Speaker 2>And for some reason this country doesn't want to do it.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, let me tell you why they don't want to

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<v Speaker 5>do it, because each party wants to be in control.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, John and John, I gotta break John. But

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<v Speaker 2>you're absolutely right, John, it's a political plank. And to

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<v Speaker 2>wrap it up, you're right because they had a bipartisan agreement.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump decided to run. He told his cronies, don't pass

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<v Speaker 2>the bipartisan agreement because he wanted to use it as

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<v Speaker 2>a political plank to run. Absolutely neither neither party wants

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<v Speaker 2>a solution agreed because it's not that hard. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>that hard. Common sense generally solves the problem. But then

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<v Speaker 2>if you have common sense, problems get solved and people

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<v Speaker 2>don't have anything to run on we agree on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta take a break. Uh, we're gonna talk my movies.

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<v Speaker 2>At ten. We're gonna get rid of it was very soon.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be done with the real stuff and get

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<v Speaker 2>into the make belief stuff. You're on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Garian for Dan tonight. Very passionate discussions this evening

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<v Speaker 2>regarding immigration, regarding the tariffs. I was just telling Rob

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks the wizard on the other side of the glass.

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<v Speaker 2>We have CNN and Fox News on in the studio,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm paraphrasing here, but across the screen on CNN

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<v Speaker 2>when they were talking about Trump and Canada and Mexico

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<v Speaker 2>negotiating dropping the tariffs. If Canada is this of Mexico,

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<v Speaker 2>you know since ten thousand people of the board, soldiers

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<v Speaker 2>of the border, CNN said Trump backs off charges or

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<v Speaker 2>tariff plans. And then Fox is like Canada and Mexico

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<v Speaker 2>h crumbles to Trump something among those lines. Uh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>where we're at. I mean, people just believe what they

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<v Speaker 2>want to believe. That's how they want to look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to give Trump credit if he pulls this off.

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<v Speaker 2>He got people to the table. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you could have a million soldiers at the border, if

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to stop the drug trade. I'm not optimistic

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<v Speaker 2>about that. But Trump's got people moving. Musk scares the

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<v Speaker 2>hell out of me. I don't know what the hell

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing running around Washington. I hope he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>any real power. That guy worries me a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>But so far during the second term with Trump, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a man of action that is indisputable. Okay, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go to the movies. We're gonna talk about the oscars

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<v Speaker 2>coming up with Odie Henderson at the Globe. Right here

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<v Speaker 2>on WBZ. Following the news
