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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka. We call it a podcast from

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the Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven

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by Victor Chrysler Dots jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill

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Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your

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pot on. Thank you for telling a friend. That's how

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we spread the word about the by Rich Yeah, Dan's

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here in his A Yankee cap, getting ready for a

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spring trainings in full.

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Speaker 2: I've watched a spring training game of twenty years.

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Speaker 1: So that's just fun, especially if you get one in

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late February, because you're sort of seeing like Sarasota, Florida

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or something, and it's like, yes, yes, life will come

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back eventually. But yeah, that's uh, that's kind of fun.

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I'd like to start out today, Dan, if you don't mind,

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within an apology. And I had to do this, not

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to you, not to you, to a listener. I had

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said some things on the podcast which will be made

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clear in their statement to me. I'll even give you

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my statement back to them. A mala yeah, a malacopa. Yes,

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that's that's that's pretty good, this person writes, and I

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will leave their name out of it. I listened to

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every single podcast of Billified since you began. Now Doug

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was in here the other day, you and Doug talking

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about g LP one's show Your Ignorance. I'll tell you

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what I said after you should not throw out your

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judgmental opinions. Doug didn't. I did. Saying it's the easy

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way out is totally not true for people who truly

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are obese. GLP shots have been used and tested for

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over twenty years with no long term problem. Some people

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may need to take the med for the rest of

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their life. GLP is a hormone type peptide that humans

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make in their body. But obese people again, I'm gonna

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start laughing at it. I'm trying not to. Obese people

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don't make enough of it, similar to how diabetics don't

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make enough insulin. For people who have fought fat their

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whole life, this is life changing, and it also is

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anti inflammatory for some. It takes away arthritis or other

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chronic problems. Also very helpful for preventing cardiac issues. It's miraculous.

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You really sounded defensive to me. I'm still a loyal listener,

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but couldn't help. But tell you how really dumb you

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sounded tonight. Sorry, And what I said was, I don't

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have a problem with anybody using g lp ones because

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it came up Doug had gone to turks and caicos,

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and I called it turks and fatsos. He's had a

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picture and caos, jerks and cankles.

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Speaker 3: He uh, he had a uh, he had a picture

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of him on the beach.

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Speaker 1: But that I mean that belly was like a bowling

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ball on it. And I said to him, I go,

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you know, it's sort of unfair because and I probably

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sounded like even more ignorantive. A friend of his was

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getting married, so he was a destination wedding and he

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was invited and he went down. Yeah, a lot of

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uber light rides for that one. Yeah, and so he yeah,

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did he ask if he could fly the plane? I

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don't know. I don't know, but I carried people around

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all the time. I think he was. Uh. So he

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brought up the gop ones and I and I said, yeah,

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I think they're great for people to lose weight. I

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think anything that's going to help you feel better about yourself,

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I have no problem with it, whether it be plastic surgery,

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or anything. On a very simple level, I have no

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problem with any of that because it's hard enough, right,

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The human experience is tough. Yeah, whatever's going to get

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you through the day, I'm cool with that. But then

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if you ask me my opinion of gop ones, all

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I said was, you know, I've noticed since a lot

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of celebrities who were out there going big as beautiful

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and love me for who I am. I haven't heard that,

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And that's all I said. Don't don't don't jump in yet,

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don't jump in yet. Hey go, let me finish my thought.

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I've said a word. No, I heard you. You're ready.

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I know you're ready. But this is where you're smart.

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You write it down. So I just said, what happened

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to all those people who were telling me, I go,

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where's the lizzos? Oh they're skinny now, so it doesn't

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fucking matter, like so in a way where you all

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full of shit because the golp one's and all I

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said about the golp ones and I would say this,

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and I'm basing my information on people who had gas

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gastric bypass surgery. Does it help you in the short term, yes,

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But if you're not disciplined. It's not going to work anyway.

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Do you have to stay on shots for the rest

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of your life? This person writes that maybe that some

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people have to do that. Some people may have to

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do that if they're diabetic and it's really working for them,

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that's wonderful. I don't want to be giving myself a

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shot all the time. But when you used to say

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things like, you know, diet and exercise, people would start

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fucking jumping up and down at You're going, no, don't

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tell me. I come from a big family. Bah bah bah.

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Oh Okay, Hey, look, I'm not a chemist. I'm not

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a I'm sure you know that. I'm not a doctor.

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goes on. All I know is myself. I did do

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one of those extreme diets and I lost weight. I

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didn't put anything. I didn't there were drops and some

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bullshit like that, but most of it was like seven

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hundred calories when I was doing it a day. Yeah,

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and it's it's tough, but it worked, and it took

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it off very quickly, and it took it off for

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a long time. But it's amazing what it does for

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your body. And I'm sure the people that are losing

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the weight are seeing all the benefits this person who

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thank you for listening every day sincerely, or every episode

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that this person is also seeing. Right, you lose the weight,

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there's probably less pain on the joints, the inflammation goes down.

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like a shortcut to get there. And just like I

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was talked about the story of my aunt's husband, his

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name is Frank, and my parents when they after the

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house burn dad, they rebuilt this really nice house, but

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they had a powder room right off the kitchen. And

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my aunt and her husband lived in Albany, about an

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hour from my mom, and so she would be there

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for like, let's say, Easter dinner or whatever, and all

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go into the bathroom and he would fucking blow it up, dude,

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because he over eight. And the thing was like, I'm

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sure that feels, pardon the pun, shitty, but and I said,

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my father used to say all the time, he would go,

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let me be Frank with you. Please don't that's what

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my dumb dads. That was his dad, Joe. He was clever,

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heways clever. So but the thing was like, I go, okay.

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So those guys did it, and some people blew through

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it and put weight on and had to have another

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surgery or whatever. I'm not sure what's going to happen

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with the with the golp ones. If it's working for you, wonderful.

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Don't fucking listen to me. But if you ask me

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my opinion, and no one really did, I just spit

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it out, so let me let me go there. But

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if I were asked my opinion, my opinion would be

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I'm cautious because it's not giving you, it's not changing

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your lifestyle. I've heard people who have tried it. It

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didn't really work for them, but the cramping and the

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pain was so unbelievable. Maybe there's different ones. I don't know.

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It's not something I want to try. Do I need

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to lose weight, you bet your sweet ass. I do.

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Do I have a plan for it, You bet your

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sweet ass. I do. So those are but that's different

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to me. Doesn't mean that I'm right, although I think

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Speaker 2: I love the fact that people listen to the podcast

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or any podcasts for that matter. I've always believed and

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I learned this lesson in the break room. If you

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can't laugh at yourself, you have no right to laugh

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at anything else or anybody else, because at some point

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it's going to be your turn. How do you handle it?

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And you weren't making.

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Speaker 1: Fun of this situation. I wasn't trying.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's got an opinion on things, and all of a sudden,

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when the person who you know gets offended by someone's

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opinion lashes. I don't say, lash is out, but gets

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angry about that and says you're un educator and all

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this other stuff. Okay, well show me the data, and

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they kind of did. But it's okay to disagree. Here's

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where you're coming from here, Here's.

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Speaker 1: What I agree with.

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Speaker 2: Okay, ozempic all those drugs they want you on, those

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drugs for life.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I mean. You ever own a credit card

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the credit card company.

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Speaker 2: If you could pay for it yourself in cash, you would,

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but you don't.

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Speaker 1: Why Because you got a credit card, you could pay

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it off.

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Speaker 2: A little bit at once, and the credit card company

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is betting the odds. What are the odds that you

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won't pay it all off the time that you will

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have to pay a little bit, a little bit, a

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little bit more, and a little bit more, a little

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bit more, and then they got you on the chain.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: It was an experiment that was started in Fresnel, California,

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and now it's spread globally. Did the credit card and

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like I remember, like when I was a young guitarist,

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I went to a guitar center thinking that I had

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to have the money in hand.

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Speaker 1: Buy the guitar.

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Speaker 2: They know you can get financing interest free for twelve months, right,

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but then once you hit the twelve months, if you

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haven't paid the guitar off, the interest rate was something

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like twenty two percent, which is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: So what did I do? Month after month I didn't

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it eventually, and I never did. Eventually had to pay

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that plus the interest on it, which was ridiculous. Point

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being is they were playing the odds that hey, if

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you need credit, guess what they're gonna be able to

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milk it. It's the same thing with this. If you

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change your lifestyle or.

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Speaker 1: If you do the work.

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Speaker 2: You won't need to be hooked on this chain. Because

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I know people who've gotten off GLPS and guess what,

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they're bigger than they were before they got out.

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Speaker 1: That's too big into an accordion, I don't.

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Speaker 2: And that's dangerous to what because the drug companies have

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played the odds against you, that you're not going to

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change your lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna go back to being what you were before.

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But I would say this, too, died an exercise. It's amazing.

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When I did do that diet much much better I slept,

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how much clearer I thought. So there's stuff in our diet, right,

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but it's hard to avoid. You know, I'm tired. I'm

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just looking for something quick. So what's quick? Shitty food

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is usually yes, not always, but usually and so and

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I think too, like exercise isn't just good for your body,

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it's good for your mental health. It really is.

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Speaker 2: Here's one of the best pills you can take is

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your exercise.

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Speaker 1: Here's my response, just so you know. And I really

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was not trying. I don't like. I don't think you

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were trying to be a Joe. I said, and maybe

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I said, I was yelling at a little bit and stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a show you tune in for this reason.

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Speaker 1: So I said, I appreciate you saying this seriously, and

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thank you for riding with billified from day one. That

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matters to me. If I came off ignorant or dismissive

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about gop meds, that's on me. The last thing, the

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last thing I ever want to do is minimize something

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that's genuinely life changing for people. I was riffing, not researching.

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And those are two different lanes. That said, you understand

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that not everyone using the is in the category you describe,

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but even those people shouldn't be minimized. Point taken. I

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can have opinions without being flippant about someone else's health journey.

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Thanks for calling me out. And then I said, uh,

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this was really me, not Doug. I don't know why

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I feel like I needed to add that, but if you.

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Speaker 2: Ever watch a YouTube video with someone who's an influencer,

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they have to put the disclaimer.

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Speaker 1: For entertainment purpose.

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Speaker 2: If you don't have that drilled into your head by now, look,

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I can't help you, no, but the thing is like.

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Speaker 1: It was my opinion on something that is working for her.

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It's this person. This person I didn't what do you

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care for? Well, I'm glad they did, because that's what

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I want. I want you to be a feel like

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you can interact with this show and you can be

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heard on this show and we can have discussions on

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these things, and that's it. But the biggest look to me,

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the the worst thing for humans is uncertainty. Right, So

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if I start this diet, I'm uncertain, I could stick

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with it. But if I think this drug is going

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to do it for me, I'm going to be better

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at sticking with it. It's a weird thing, right, And

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it would be funny. It would be really interesting to

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me if they somewhere did a placebo GLP one thing,

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you know, where people didn't have it, but did they

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actually they were just injecting it. I feel like I'm

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getting better, Well I mean no, but they're losing weight

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and they're eating better, and instead of picking up a

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bag of chips, they pick up a bag of baby carrots,

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whatever that is. I would love to see that because

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I do think that there's a little bit a little

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bit to that, and that to me would be like

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you know, we live in this illusion of control. But

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you can control those things, Yes, you can know. That's

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the stuff that's that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Now, there are some factors in genetics and biology that

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influenced those things. I know people who've like they've been

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battling this third entire lives. Their mothers tried to feed

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them the best foods and everything else. They just have

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that issue, right, it's genetic that does play.

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Speaker 1: Upon and this person. This person then responded saying something

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like that, Yeah, I come from a fat family. Okay,

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there's nothing there's nothing wrong with that. I I don't know.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you've seen Charles Barkley recently.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, just something ESPN the other day. Dude, like

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he's got to be on that stay. Oh yeah, oh

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everybody's on it, but it's all scary.

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Speaker 2: Kelly Osbourne looks awful. Well, she lost a lot of weight.

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Who's at one ship, Rebel Wilson, she looks terrible. Lizzo

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looks awful. Lizzo was the poster child that you were

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discussing earlier.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is like that South partly made.

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Speaker 2: A whole episode about it. You're too poor to a

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fod GLP threes. So we have the other cure Lizzo, which.

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Speaker 1: At the time was feeling good about being big.

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Speaker 2: Yes her weight Watchers wouldn't even call itself weight Watchers anymore,

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was w W And then Bill Mark called him out.

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Speaker 1: So why would just call for what it is? Why

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don't we have to call it? But that's okay, it's okay, Yeah,

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it is okay. You get to a certain point in

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your life and if you have kids, you got a

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lot of shity food in your house, and it's hard.

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It's hard to not eat the chicken nuggets, and it's

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hard to not eat whatever chips are around and try

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to dive into something. It's tough. And I and I

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did that for the past two years of James since

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here I ballooned way up. So I'm trying, but I

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don't want to do something like that. And I have friends.

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I have a lot of guys I know. And it's

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the thing is like it loose muscle. It's quiet, like

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they don't they don't, they don't say.

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Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, like you see them. You

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haven't seen him while and all of a sudden you

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see him, like two months later.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Doug. Now, it's just what happened to the ug Well,

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see to me waiting for something, Danny waiting for to

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lose the weight. That's about character those do you think

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it builds character? Seven weeks man like you? I was

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one of those.

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Speaker 2: I had eat five hundred calories today, right, and I've

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been able to keep my weight down not to where

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it was, but like within like five to ten pounds. Okay,

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it takes work. You gotta do it every day. And look,

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you got a weigh yourself every day. You can't wait

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a week. You have to do it every day, so

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you know what you're doing daily commitment.

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Speaker 1: I would say that, you know, patience is one thing, right,

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you gotta have some patience. We don't like that. Think

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of people of the DMV. They fucking go crazy.

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Speaker 2: Oh do we live in a non demand world? And

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so with AI it's only getting worse.

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Speaker 1: And you've got I'll say this, I believe this is

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more of a religious term, but I use it a

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lot faith faith that this is gonna work. You gotta

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have a little humility along the way to just kind

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of suck it up and do it, you know, speaking

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of the DMV, I uh oh, no, I have my

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I had a the DMV isn't is interesting. They do

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something now at the DMV that I can't decide if

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it's ingenious or it's torture. I can't decide yet, And

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I'm not kidding. I have my my dad's car and

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I have not registered it. I haven't driven it a ton,

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except for maybe long trips and things, but I haven't

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registered it since I've had it since I don't know,

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like the end of the summer or whatever it was.

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Maybe it was right after he died. So I'm finally like,

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I got to get to the DMV and get this

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registered for New York. I have a New York State

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inspection on there, but I have I did not have

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the tags. So I go to the DMV and you

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got to sign in. Now have you been to the DMV?

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Not recently? All right? You got to sign in on

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an iPad and then they tell you it comes up.

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And I think it's the same for everybody. I was

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hoping to be there as soon as they opened. There

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were things that were unforeseen in my morning. Your whole

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life is unforseeable. Well, I mean I look at it

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this way, yes, but I always have to go. Life's

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never gonna stop going out. Yeah, how are you gonna

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handle it?

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Speaker 2: That's why I like, what do you do your schedule

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every morning?

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Speaker 1: It's like problems? Yeah, well yeah, putting out fires. So

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I get there probably around nine to forty five. They

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opened to day thirty. I get in line, a little

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bit of a line. I get up to the kiosk,

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I sign in. How long do you think? It says

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before my number is going to be called twenty six

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minutes or and they don't do they do not do

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numbers anymore. They take your name. Okay, so you put

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your name in, so you're in Q. You're in Q

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twenty six minutes, No, two and a half hours, So

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you could just leave, go shop, come back. Hang on. Now,

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that's an interesting thing that you do that. This is

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why I can't decide if this is absolute torture or ingenius,

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because what were we always told in different things? Right,

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under promise, over delivered, under promise, over delivered, greatest thing

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in the world. Right, it's gonna take me two and

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a half hours, and it doesn't when.

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Speaker 2: You go to a restaurant, yeah, forty minutes. When they

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cut the time in half.

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Speaker 1: Ooh wow, under right, Yeah, under promise, over delivered. So

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two and a half hours. So I have because my

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dad did not sell this car, he just died, so

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I have a copy of his death certificate, and I

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have I have all the other information that I need,

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and I go up the guards. Sometimes he was answering

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questions for people, so I said to him, Hey, uh,

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do I need anything else? Any other for me? Because

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I don't know? You have to go up to the window. No,

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but there's a window where you can just walk up

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and ask a question. So I go up and a

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woman says to me, how can I help you? I said,

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I said, I'm trying to register her vehicle. I am

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next next to ken, But is there anything else I need?

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Because it was from my dad he's deceased. And she goes, oh, yeah,

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there's another piece of paper you're probably gonna have to have.

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And I said, okay, what is that? I don't know.

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Let me go ask somebody. You think they'd have the answer. Okay,

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it gets better. She comes back and she goes, yeah,

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you need to have another piece of paper. I go

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from where yeah she's like and she looks over and

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the woman says something like from the estate. She goes,

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you need another people piece of paper from the state.

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I go, what exactly is that piece of paper? She's like,

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what do you mean you need a you need something

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from the estate. I go, what is that exactly? I go,

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you're the DMV. You're telling and this is how I

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said it to. I go, you're the DMV. You're telling

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me I need this piece of paper and you can't

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tell me what it is like. I didn't yell like that,

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but and she fucking clipped me off. She goes, you're

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gonna have to wait to get up to the window.

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So now am I gonna be there for two and

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a half hours? So I'm already not super thrilled, and

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I had some other paperwork to fill out, and I'm

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standing there and I'm on the phone. At this point,

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I'm gonna start taking calls. I'm just running, just running

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my day, and all of a sudden, I gotta go.

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They just call my name. It was within twenty minutes.

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Now to your point, what did you say when I

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said two and a half hour.

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Speaker 2: Wait, go shop and maybe come back right So had

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you done that, you would have missed your turn.

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Speaker 1: Here's my thing. They give you. They text because you

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put in your phone number, they text you and link

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for you to check your status. How many people are

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doing that because they leave and they're driving. They're not

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doing that. I go, this is either ingenious or it

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is maybe I should change it too. It's like, it's great,

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but it's also pretty cruel because you told somebody they

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have two and a half hours. Nobody wants to sit

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around the fucking DMV. No, you don't even make it comfortable.

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Could you get a fucking cushion on these chairs? Cheezy

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fucking nothing. Some do this, one didn't. But they're not comfortable.

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Matter of fact. I so when I do get up. Now,

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I've got a bunch of things. I gotta go back

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and forth. I gotta get this, I gotta get that.

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I gotta so. But I'm all, it's all. If it's

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not in my hands, I can go to the car

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and figure this out. So I say to the woman

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at one point, Hey, can I sit in this chair?

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She goes, oh, it's one of the chairs. Like, well,

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we sit in here? She goes, No, that's the guard's chair.

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Do not sit in that chair. I don't know where

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the guard he is nowhere near this chair, but every

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other chair is. So you don't make it comfortable. You

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tell people it's two and a half hours. Right. My

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buddy Joe Linley comic comes in all of a sudden,

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he comes, hey, man, we're talking for a little while.

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He's helping his girlfriend to some car, and he goes,

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two and a half hours. Man, I go, don't. He goes,

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We're just gonna go sit in the car. I go, don't,

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I said, because they call you with him, I said,

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I think it was twenty minutes for me. Maybe last

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I don't even know, but I'm like, it must be

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a number of people who just leave. That's fucking cruel.

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And I think it says if you missed your turn,

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you gotta turn over like you gotta.

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Speaker 2: Oh holy shit, it's a weed out.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's right. It's like the cruelest fucking thing.

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I go. That was That's why I was torn on it,

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and I'm like, I'm glad I didn't pull that. I decided.

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I even brought a book that I have to read

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for school that i'm a little behind in, so I

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was gonna read that and it turned out it was great.

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I was home before the two and a half hours

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was even up with new tags on and registration. I

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felt like, gree, no, this is the Henrietta One. Okay, yeah,

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no I don't. I've been to the Henriette One. I

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don't go to them. Not that they don't go to

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the West Side. I'm just not traveling that. Yeah, you know,

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I want convenience that that that's it. But I mean,

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you know, it's faith first control, just like with the

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diet gop was.

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Speaker 2: You got to make sure you have that. Like if

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you're on the d m V in a way, you

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kind of know that you're going to need a carve

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out some time, probably a morning or and after this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I figured I was going to be there. I

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was picturing myself because I didn't get there closer to

469
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,720
ten o'clock that I wasn't getting out there to twelve

470
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,839
What time they open eight thirty, twelve thirty or one?

471
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,039
Speaker 2: They're a line when you wouldn't know that because you

472
00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:41,799
weren't there yet. But I wonder if there's like a

473
00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:45,119
line of people, probably I would absolutely trying to get

474
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,119
Springsteen tickets.

475
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,799
Speaker 1: All right, we got a risk bad policy in place.

476
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,720
So then now I've decided that I need to make

477
00:23:51,759 --> 00:23:53,400
the people who are on the other side of the

478
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,079
glass that are helping me my friends. So over, Well,

479
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,160
this one lady.

480
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,519
Speaker 2: Seems like could be a genious.

481
00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: You probably did not see Monsters Ink, the kids movie

482
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,759
Do you have nieces and nephews? Yeah?

483
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: I saw the first ten minutes and.

484
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,279
Speaker 1: She and the lady that was like in charge of

485
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,359
the secret people's all right next and she had the

486
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,400
glasses on, but she turned out to be kind of

487
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,880
sweet in a way, like this lady was like that.

488
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,119
She didn't even look up. So and she's grabbed my

489
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,319
paper since she's going through and she's got this and

490
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,119
I think they took my title and didn't give it back.

491
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,640
So I don't know what. I don't know if I

492
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,880
get a new title, I'm a little concerned about that. Yeah,

493
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,480
but anyway, so but I know they scooped it up

494
00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:39,920
in the paperwork. So she's got a Tim McGraw mouse pad, right,

495
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,720
So I go, you like Tim McGraw. Don't you say

496
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:49,480
anything about my husband? I mean she likes yeah, all right,

497
00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:51,720
So I said, I've seen him a bunch of times.

498
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,880
I were you the lady who grabbed his junk and

499
00:24:53,960 --> 00:25:01,319
faith they'll yelled at him. You show I think, well

500
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,640
that was here. I thought there was one here here

501
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,960
you grab another woman's. Maybe not I thought it was here.

502
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,759
I don't know why I think that, but yes, I

503
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:13,559
hang on. So that and then so now I have

504
00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:15,640
to go back and fill some other paperwork out, like

505
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,079
I got to do like a next to kin because

506
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:25,440
thank goodness, the death certificate's sad uh no no legal,

507
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,079
no surviving spouse because my parents are divorced. So I

508
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,240
was glad because I started to go, well, my mom's alive,

509
00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:36,759
and she goes, wait the death certificate. I go great,

510
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,240
So now I gotta go fill out something else. And

511
00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:43,200
I'm over there and she comes up all of a sudden,

512
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,680
like five minutes later and goes, it's my lunch break.

513
00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:47,799
When you're done, just go to the window next to mine.

514
00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:51,000
She knows she has all your stuff, it's all there.

515
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,200
She'll take care of you. And that was it. It was

516
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,559
like it was like smooth sailing. But you know, some

517
00:25:57,599 --> 00:25:59,200
of the people, I can see why you would get

518
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,880
miserable with that. Yeah, I could see why you would

519
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,720
get miserable. But anyway, that's my thing. Waiting reveals character,

520
00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:08,160
whether it's with diets, whether it's with sitting at the

521
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,599
DMV life is the DMV daddy persistence. We just don't

522
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,160
like the uncertainty of it all. We're always in a hurry.

523
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,160
It's got to take a take every day in uh,

524
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,400
we will take a moment. Do you ever know somebody

525
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,559
who traded one vice for another vice to get off

526
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:30,359
the first vice and they're really vices? Yes, yeah, okay,

527
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:34,160
all right, we will get into that right after this. Ever,

528
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,119
look at your wall and think, hmmm, that hole definitely

529
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,119
wasn't there yesterday, Or maybe your faucet's got a drip

530
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,920
that's slowly driving you into madness. That's when you got

531
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:51,160
to call my buddies at Mac of All Trades because

532
00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:53,519
it's your home and if you don't have the skills

533
00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:56,240
to fix it yourself, go to the people who do.

534
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,000
And trust me, there's nobody better than Mac of All Trade.

535
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:04,599
They do everything. Leaky faucett, they got it, Drafty windows

536
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:08,920
and doors done, electrical plumbing, carpentry sure, full kitchen or

537
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,200
bathroom model. Oh yeah, they'll do that too, from patching

538
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,279
the hole that someone made by definitely not slamming the door,

539
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,920
to transforming your entire space. Mack of All Trades gets

540
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,079
it done quickly and the right way. Stop putting up

541
00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:25,880
with cold drafts and half finished to do list. Give

542
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,119
them a call at five eight five two zero two

543
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,319
ninety two eighteen, or find them online at macofolltrades dot net.

544
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,759
Get started on that to do list today, Mac of

545
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:48,880
All Trades, No job too small. My phone off dated

546
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,839
is operating system the other day on son Yeah, and

547
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,960
I always decline, decline, and then I guess it's got cool.

548
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,400
So I don't spend any time looking at it. I should,

549
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:06,599
but it made me think, like there's a story that

550
00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:10,480
that sort of inspired this part of the conversation here.

551
00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:16,240
But uh, I think as human beings, a lot of

552
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,640
us don't eliminate vices. We just upgrade our operating system.

553
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:21,799
You know what I'm saying. They I'll try this now.

554
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,279
And it's a weird it's a weird thing. I've always

555
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:31,200
been a fan of Billy Idol. I remember, like in

556
00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:33,839
high school and stuff, a lot of my buddies went

557
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,759
to see him in concert and ship my friend Jeff

558
00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:38,240
Kotch I think, was in an elevator with him in Albany,

559
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:42,079
and like at the same hotel or whatever, and he's like,

560
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,400
fucking Billy, I don't Billy reaches out like reaches up

561
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,759
because he's a little guy, goes leaves. But Billy Ida

562
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:55,720
went on Bill Maher's podcast Club Random, which is an

563
00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,640
interesting listen if you've ever had the opportunity, and he

564
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:06,960
said that he got off Heroin by smoking crack and

565
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,000
I was like, sure, I get it because I think

566
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,319
in like nineteen eighty four, I mean, Billy Idol, there's

567
00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:17,000
a documentary that's coming out. I think it's going to

568
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:19,000
be I don't know how why the release will be,

569
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,599
but the documentaries, if it's not, it may already be out.

570
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,759
Speaker 2: I'm so behind the documentaries. I want to watch them.

571
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I know what you mean, right, because clearly

572
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:29,640
I have.

573
00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: To wait for my wife to go on a vacation

574
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:33,680
on her own to catch up in all the documentaries

575
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,079
I want to watch. Well, because we can't agree to them.

576
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,640
She won't watch documentaries. I think they're even a music Yeah,

577
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,720
and I think they're fascinating.

578
00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: Well, they give you some good information. I would also

579
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:46,319
say that, you know, like anything, there may be somebody

580
00:29:46,319 --> 00:29:49,519
who's like bent on telling this side of a story.

581
00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:52,960
They're storytellers, yes, and they all do have their own

582
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,599
perspective them maybe, and that's all. That's that's the only

583
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,880
thing you have. Take them with a grain of salt.

584
00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:59,839
But this one is called Billy Idol Should Be Dead.

585
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,000
And I fucking loved the title, and I loved Billy Idol,

586
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:07,839
and I go, that's amazing. But I mean, Billy Idol

587
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:13,119
was heroin, like he left the man X came to

588
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:16,319
the United States to start his solo career, and man

589
00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:20,880
he just talked about and the article I read had

590
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,440
him talking to the Associated Press and the New York

591
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,480
Times and People magazine. He had come here, and he

592
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:31,079
said his drug use ramped up as his popularity did.

593
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,640
But then he got into heroin and he said, I

594
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,079
didn't always shoot it. I usually snorted it. And then

595
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,559
I don't know why. So heroin was bad. But then

596
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:46,160
the crack, which is basically freebasing cocaine, is like amazing.

597
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,640
Then he had that motorcycle accent that you like because

598
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,880
I forget, I think his eyes without a face or

599
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:56,160
I don't remember what the song is. But the video

600
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,000
on MTV all you saw was Billy Idol like in

601
00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:02,000
he was inside picture frames like walking down the hall

602
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:04,000
and stuff like that. And the reason he was is

603
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,480
he couldn't really stand at the time because as matter

604
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:09,400
of fact, I am pretty sure it was a white wedding.

605
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,079
That doesn't matter. I don't know. I am pretty sure

606
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,200
that Billy Idol was up for a role in Terminator two,

607
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,480
and because of the motorcycle accident, he couldn't do the

608
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:26,559
required running. I'm almost positive that that's a real thing. Okay,

609
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,799
I'm pretty sure that that's what happened. And I haven't

610
00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:32,079
listened to Bill Maher's podcast. If it comes out on that,

611
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:35,519
I wouldn't be surprised. But I mean, he even said

612
00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:39,960
here like I'm lucky I've kept a brain because some

613
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,720
people went brain dead and some people ended up in

614
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:46,759
jail forever. And he I think here he was talking

615
00:31:46,759 --> 00:31:49,079
to the Associated Press and he said, imagine if it

616
00:31:49,119 --> 00:31:51,799
was today, if I was doing what I was back

617
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:54,680
then today, I would be dead because I would have

618
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:59,000
run into fen mal Oh. Yeah, of course, right. But

619
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:02,200
it's like we got this thing in our brain. We

620
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,119
want stimulation and reward, and so you know, and I

621
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,759
have heard I've been told that the first the heroin

622
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,440
high is the most euphoric high. Ever, and then after

623
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,000
that you just keep tracing that feeling, and that's where

624
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:18,960
a lot of people kind of kind of lose their stuff.

625
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:22,119
But I go, you know, Billy Idol's heroin to crack,

626
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,319
and I'm thinking, I know people who have traded vices.

627
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,839
You know, bad eating for smoke smoking.

628
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the most common one.

629
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: Well, the bad eating for smoking or vice vice versa.

630
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,640
I gotta stop smoking, so then bad eat badly and

631
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,519
I can put on a lot of weight. So I'm

632
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:41,960
not fried. I'm not gonna do a g O P one.

633
00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:43,319
I'm going back to cigarettes.

634
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:46,119
Speaker 2: Hey, look, I switched from ruffles to triskets, and I

635
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:47,799
gotta tell you, man, this has been great.

636
00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:53,319
Speaker 1: But it's like, I don't know. And then Billy Idol

637
00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:56,880
says that he's California sober. Now I'm not even California's sober.

638
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,720
I think it is. We're used like Buffalo sober, like

639
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:04,359
that movie. No. I think California sober is like where

640
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,640
you don't do anything, but you do weed, okay, or

641
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,640
maybe you dabble a little bit in drugs but you

642
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,000
don't maybe you don't drink. Could be I don't know

643
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:15,480
what California sober. It just sounds like it was made

644
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,720
by some surfer. Dude goes, hey, man, here's the way

645
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:22,559
he gets a movie. You know what I mean? Drug

646
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:27,559
rehab designed by a surfer. Uh yeah, I don't I'm going.

647
00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:30,079
Is Billy Idle the only guy who could ever say

648
00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:34,920
I got clean by doing crack? He's seventy he's still live.

649
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,920
I know, Billy Idol should be dead. Well, it's amazing.

650
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,279
Speaker 2: Well, Keith Richards is the ultimate exact I know, you know.

651
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:40,839
And then you got the guy Bob Weir who was

652
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:42,279
like in his eighties it was a health.

653
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: Nut, yeah, and ended up dying. Well, I mean, like

654
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,759
what you cross eighty seven? He was seventy nine. Okay, yeah,

655
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,960
it was there, and you get up there.

656
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,839
Speaker 2: All bets are off a lot of things.

657
00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:53,039
Speaker 1: All bets are off, sure, I guess, but you try

658
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:55,680
to do your best to do whatever. But then sometimes,

659
00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:57,920
you know, disease and things gets in there. I was

660
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:03,240
thinking of another one. Porn in place of promiscuity.

661
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,759
Speaker 2: There's a well, there's a they call in cells. Guys

662
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:11,400
who can't get can't get laid. Yeah, so they just

663
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,679
watch porn in jo and so that's that's why.

664
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: That's how they you know, No, but I'm saying, let's

665
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,639
say you were a very promiscuous person. Oh, instead of

666
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,679
going out, they just maybe you found somebody. But but

667
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,000
you always have that little bit of an urge, like

668
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:29,000
it's the it's like the heroin, it's the vagina.

669
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure that there's like lots of like well, okay,

670
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,119
we worked with a guy Tommy, who told us that

671
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:38,760
in England there used to be a health tip put

672
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,360
together by the government that says, trade Guinness for whiskey.

673
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:45,679
It's considered a health tip. Well because they had less calories. Right,

674
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:47,519
But that's like, you know, it's like trading.

675
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you traded one evil one evil for another.

676
00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:55,119
Speaker 1: Yeah. Partying all of a sudden, now I can't you know,

677
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:56,719
I'm not going to the clubs. Am I hanging out

678
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:01,360
with this crowd anymore. I become a CrossFit junkie. That's

679
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,639
my new party crowd. But I mean, I get healthier.

680
00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:09,519
Speaker 2: But I mean I think that people who rip on people,

681
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:11,400
because there's a crowd of people who do this, right,

682
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,760
people who trade a bad vice for a good habit

683
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:20,320
like working out or Christianity or faith or something. There's

684
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,039
a group of people say, oh, you're just trading one

685
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:25,679
addiction for another. No, you're actually like upgrading your life.

686
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,079
One is healthy one isn't.

687
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: I agree.

688
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: I don't think that's like a vice necessarily. Maybe, but

689
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,960
I mean you, I mean, if you have an addictive personality,

690
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:37,920
you may as well channel that into something that's positive,

691
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,519
that's good, that's reinforcing, not something that is destructive.

692
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: No, I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying.

693
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,960
But then there are there's always, like with any addiction,

694
00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:49,519
sometimes there's a fall from grace, you know what I mean.

695
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:54,400
Oh yeah, relapse, Yeah, relapse. But yes, I will say

696
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,800
that I here's the thing that here's something that will

697
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,559
probably get me another scolding from a listener. I don't.

698
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,679
I'm not a big believer that addiction is a disease.

699
00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:07,159
I'm with you on that one. And I don't mean

700
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:10,280
to sound mean to anybody. Whatever is going to make

701
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,679
your life better. You have a loved one that's going

702
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,760
through some stuff and you want to call it a

703
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,320
disease and they're trying to get help. Fine, it doesn't matter.

704
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:22,519
I'm just looking at this more like clinically sort of.

705
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,639
I think it's a mask for something else. There's a

706
00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:30,119
lot of pain, a lot of trauma somewhere in your

707
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:34,280
life that you're avoiding because this is a wonderful escape.

708
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,199
You don't think about anything when you're high, you know

709
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:39,360
what I mean. You just you can't. You laugh, you

710
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,199
feel good, your body feels good, you say things that

711
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,719
are funny if you're drinking, you know what I mean,

712
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,880
depending on what you're using. And I think that that

713
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:48,920
becomes like the mask for the real pain. And so

714
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,960
when somebody goes from partying to the gym or all

715
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,639
of a sudden, somebody becomes like uber christian like almost

716
00:36:56,679 --> 00:36:59,239
like feels like they're overdoing it to a certain extent, like,

717
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,599
oh they weren't aren't there three months ago, and now

718
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:07,000
they're baptized and they're handing out the panther. It does

719
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:09,960
feel like you're not dealing with whatever the issue is.

720
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,480
You found something else to mask that pain, to keep

721
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:14,760
you away from the pain, right, It keeps me away

722
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,199
from the pain except for those quiet moments. And that's

723
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,440
where I think a lot of times, when it's just

724
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:23,480
you and your thoughts, that's where I think a lot

725
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,960
of people stumble, and that's where things like rehab and

726
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:29,880
any cognitive stuff that you get through there is wonderful

727
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,239
and it can help people, and it has helped people.

728
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,360
It's proven, you know, even the twelve step program it worked, right,

729
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:39,400
it worked. Yes, So that's fine. It's probably the biggest

730
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,840
group therapy you're ever going to see anywhere, and it's

731
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,840
open and anybody can go in. But I just that's

732
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:47,639
my thought on it.

733
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't like wake up one morning and go,

734
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,320
you know what, Man, I've never done this, but I

735
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,280
feel like the urge to smoke cigarettes.

736
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,519
Speaker 1: Yeah why, I don't know, I just feel like smoke it.

737
00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:01,679
I think I just I got deserged.

738
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,639
Speaker 2: Like it's like, it's it's an acquired taste addiction. Okay, Hey,

739
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,400
it's an acquired sure taste. And if you have that personality, yeah,

740
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,440
you can get hooked. Okay, but let's not call it

741
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,599
a disease necessarily.

742
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: Can we like examine the person first and we judge

743
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,920
the vice, right, we judge the vice and we say

744
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:23,800
these things, but we don't look at the underlying hunger

745
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,719
of it. What is that hunger? That thing that what

746
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,920
are you trying to? What void are you trying to fill.

747
00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:32,280
And by the way, uh yeah, I think there's sex addicts.

748
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,159
I really do. I think there's people who could be

749
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,880
just like in the Hunt. It's and I don't know

750
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,440
what that is. It's like, is it power? Is that

751
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,639
what it is? In some way that I can influence

752
00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:45,639
someone to sleep with me and then move on to

753
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,159
someone else, and then move on to someone else, like

754
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,920
or sleep with me for a while and then I

755
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,559
get bored and you know, I'm gonna go somewhere else

756
00:38:53,639 --> 00:38:56,320
and I don't know, I have no idea, but and

757
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,039
that's where I go. Well, then if you trade it

758
00:38:58,119 --> 00:39:00,800
for porn, well at least maybe have the guilt that

759
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,159
comes with the other one, and you don't necessarily feel

760
00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:05,280
bad about yourself. And a lot of times maybe you're

761
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,480
staying out of places that you're also inebriated or whatever.

762
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: That also leads to another set of problems. Yes altogether, Yes,

763
00:39:13,039 --> 00:39:15,960
you know, Yes, I mean I think that I don't

764
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,320
like when I mean I think there's an underlying cause

765
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,159
for everything. There always will be. We're human, We're flawed. Okay,

766
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,760
So where are you going to channel your inner aggression

767
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,400
or inner rage or innert.

768
00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:34,159
Speaker 1: What's your outlet, right, and it could be one or

769
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:34,719
two avenues.

770
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,639
Speaker 2: It could be destructive or productive, right, And so I'm

771
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:41,280
a believer in net time, no extra time. In other words,

772
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,559
now I don't have let me put to you this way.

773
00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:44,840
I don't have kids, so I could get away with

774
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,280
a lot more of this. But I think spending time

775
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,000
with your kids is always quality time by point. In

776
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:53,039
other words, when you're not sleeping, you're doing something productive.

777
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:55,239
Like I have a tough time just sitting down and

778
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,440
just watching television. I gotta be doing something I feel productive,

779
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,079
you know. That's just. And then when I feel like.

780
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:03,599
Speaker 1: I've earned the right to watch, always show it that

781
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:06,719
I'll do that. You get a little reward, right, you know, and.

782
00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: Then we're once you've accomplished that goal, you reward yourself immediately.

783
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,400
But something that's not destructive. And I don't like when

784
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,360
because I think losers are the ones who say.

785
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: You just traded one vice for another.

786
00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:20,159
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's the case. We all are

787
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:25,920
prone to some type of addiction. Choose your choose your pain.

788
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,599
Speaker 1: Go back to what I choose your pay for. We

789
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:31,719
don't eliminate vices, We just upgrade our operating system. But

790
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,920
that would be an upgrade, right, right if you went

791
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,480
from partying and club hopping and bed hopping to becoming

792
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:42,800
a CrossFit person. Okay, right, that's a better thing. You know,

793
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:44,800
I just don't want to hear it. Now. Here's what happens. Now.

794
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:48,559
Speaker 2: The next thing is okay, because those addictions, like according

795
00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:53,039
to people who who counsel, and you're heading in that

796
00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:56,079
direction counsel people with addictions of problems. Let's say you're

797
00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:58,920
that bed hopping person, womanized or whatever, then you become

798
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,840
the CrossFit person instead. Okay, let's say you're that person

799
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,679
you become cross Then also, you've got this amazing body

800
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,000
and now more and more women are flocking to So

801
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:08,480
now how do you deal.

802
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: With the fact that all of a sudden, now the

803
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,159
attraction finds you. But I go home or or well

804
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:15,239
that's the thing. I'm sure I start fishing in the

805
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,400
in the uh CrossFit hole. There you go. Yeah, but

806
00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:20,400
still like you got you still have to fight that

807
00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:22,639
urge work. Yeah, like wall jumps, bitch, you.

808
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: Have to kill that flesh every single day. Yeah, it's

809
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,719
a daily battle. It's a daily battle.

810
00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: Here's something else, because you sort of touched on it

811
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:36,119
with Keith Richards. You've got how do some people survive

812
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:41,519
such reckless lives and other people are dead at twenty

813
00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:44,480
eight and maybe didn't even live a reckless I think

814
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:48,719
about that. It's so weird. Yeah, it's a very very weird,

815
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:53,760
weird thing. I I because, and I'm sure like that's

816
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,239
where I go. People must get very very upset about that. Well,

817
00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:00,880
you know, one guy gets to party for thirty years

818
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,800
and he's still alive at seventy, and it's bad for

819
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:09,159
I don't. I mean, look Billy Idol. I think there

820
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:13,440
were times where he was like turning blue and people

821
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,159
saved his life by throwing him like in an ice

822
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,639
bath or something like that. I don't know fuck about

823
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:21,039
what they did, but he's still here right, and everything

824
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:24,840
seems to be okay. And yet then there's other people

825
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,800
who lived lives that they went to the gym and

826
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,400
did all that. And that's where sometimes my stupid head goes,

827
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:36,000
fuck it. I'm just going first, because where none of

828
00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:39,599
us survive, might as well have fun. And that's not

829
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:41,880
always a great choice sort of thing. But I do

830
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,239
I think about these guys, I go, would you rather

831
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,840
have lived? This? Really exciting life that got you to

832
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,960
let's say seventy or eighty and or do you want

833
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,480
to be the guy that was a teetotaler by the

834
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:59,360
book let a very boring life, really struggle with his

835
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,239
boring life. Didn't want to be but it was just

836
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,840
disciplined and d and then regimended and then you die

837
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:07,599
somewhere around the same age. I go, I'd rather be

838
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:08,840
the other guy. I'd rather that.

839
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,159
Speaker 2: It depends on how you want to be remembered.

840
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: Well, that's true legacy you want to leave, I know.

841
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:16,519
But here's the bad part that I was thinking. This

842
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:19,800
is something that I go, fucking Billy Idol, how fucking

843
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,920
cool is this guy? How fucking cool is this guy?

844
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,440
Almost died a couple of times motorcycle action. It's always

845
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,519
that rebellion, always pushing agains stuff. And then I go,

846
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,679
what if that were my kid, I'd be out of

847
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,440
my mind, be out of my mind. It's always cool

848
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,840
when somebody else's well. But I mean, like Billy Idol,

849
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,159
you made it seventy man, cool, motherfucker? What's going on? Right?

850
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:42,119
Speaker 2: And that would be why parents were probably less scared.

851
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:45,239
I mean they were scared for him. I don't know

852
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,760
a lot of rock stars come from these broken homes,

853
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,920
and they all had these stories.

854
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: He said there was a I think it was him

855
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,039
that said there was a lot of tragedy early in

856
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:57,159
the life. I don't know. I want to see this documentary.

857
00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,920
Billy Idol should be Dead? Could be good?

858
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,599
Speaker 2: It sounds incredibly fascinating.

859
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,039
Speaker 1: Well, it does because you're seeing somebody who I mean

860
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,639
a lot of Billy Idol songs. Actually, when he's sang

861
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:10,559
a ballad, he sounded pretty good. He could you know,

862
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:12,599
Oh yeah, he had a hit about ten years ago.

863
00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:14,480
It's like, this is Billy Idol. It was and it

864
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:16,599
was on like a local station like p x Y.

865
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,440
Oh really yeah, it was like it was like it

866
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,400
was like a it was on a pop station. I

867
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:20,719
don't know.

868
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: But it all depends on your motivation, Like what is

869
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,679
motivating you? What do you want to be remembered for?

870
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: What? What is getting you up in the morning? What

871
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:27,920
is it?

872
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: What is motivating you? Yeah, for me, it's like I'm

873
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,119
gonna face Jesus someday.

874
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: But see that's you and then and Billy Idols like, yeah,

875
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,400
I'm gonna face him too. But right now, to a

876
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,280
line off a hooker's ass groupie's tits. I don't know.

877
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,239
I mean, but do you feel fulfilled after that? No,

878
00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:49,559
you don't feel peel filfilled. You do in the moment.

879
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:52,079
Stop asking stupid questions, you know. Answer.

880
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:55,559
Speaker 2: You're the guy who, like it, gets into philosophic philosophical discussions.

881
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:58,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm teasing you. Yeah, I'm teasing you. Well, yes,

882
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,599
look like by Rick Flair.

883
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 2: Rick Flair said he they asked how he was with,

884
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,719
and he gave the number, and it was like it

885
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:05,760
was a he was a huge number.

886
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:06,159
Speaker 1: I remember.

887
00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 2: He goes, ain't that terrible? Yeah, and he goes, that's

888
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,800
not a happy thought. Yeah, he goes, I can't go

889
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,159
to bed alone and that's not a happy thought.

890
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

891
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,039
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the guy who was called the man

892
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,360
more than any other guy.

893
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:24,039
Speaker 1: But what what's driving that? Right? What's driving you know?

894
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,559
Speaker 2: Rick Flair's original name was Fred Phillips. He was adopted,

895
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:29,400
he was stolen. He was he was adopted, but he

896
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,719
was a stolen Yeah, he had no desire stolen.

897
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 1: I think he was.

898
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: He was like stolen like in other words, he was

899
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,039
one of those like babies on the black market.

900
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: What Yeah, get the fuck out of here what went?

901
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,320
Wait a second, you gotta get him on this podcast.

902
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,239
I need to have this conversation if you if you can.

903
00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: Get him on, like he probably charged an arm and

904
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,760
a leg. He goes through that money like whiskey believe.

905
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: But but Rick Flair was was stolen.

906
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:57,039
Speaker 2: I think it's I think he was stolen. His original

907
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:58,079
name was Fred Phillips.

908
00:45:58,599 --> 00:45:59,639
Speaker 1: This sounds like an accountant.

909
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: His brother, actually his biological brother, reached out to him

910
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,480
and he wanted nothing to do with him.

911
00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:06,519
Speaker 1: He was Richard Fleer.

912
00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 2: He was adopted and I don't know if that had

913
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,880
something to do with it. But you want talk about

914
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,320
a guy who should have been dead by now many times? Yeah,

915
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,840
Rick Flair is like the Keith Richards of Rustley. Oh,

916
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,239
by the way, in the physical toil on your body,

917
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,920
your body, that was like playing seven football. Yeahs I

918
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,280
get that three hundred days of a year. But I mean,

919
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:28,719
but he was people have come out in fact after

920
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,960
the first document so ESPA did the thirty for thirty

921
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,199
on him, and he didn't like what was said about

922
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,239
him in his own documentary, so he went to NBC

923
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,880
or Peacock and then they did another one which was

924
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,000
more favorable to Rick Flair, right, okay, but even his

925
00:46:41,039 --> 00:46:42,880
own son in law who tried doing a podcast with him,

926
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,599
because I can't even work with my own father in law.

927
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: I can't do it. Well. Is it because he's he's

928
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,320
just all over the place. He's just always gotta be drinking.

929
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: He's always got to be partying.

930
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: He's always got to be on the go, right.

931
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,559
Speaker 2: And if you see Rick Flair, like, he don't look good, okay,

932
00:46:57,599 --> 00:46:59,920
but he's still he's still alive and he's still with it.

933
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,119
But the thing about Rick was that he the guys

934
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:06,199
like Triple H and Sean Michael said, I don't think

935
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,519
Rick Flair and Richard Fleer have ever had a conversation.

936
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: In other words, he's lived this gimmick for so long

937
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,599
he doesn't know he really is that well, I would

938
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:17,800
say that that problem that sounds like it's a lifelong thing.

939
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,000
I'll just throw this out there. I don't want to

940
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:26,599
upset anybody, but there is a there's a lot of

941
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,280
trauma in babies. Like babies suffer trauma, and the one

942
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,440
thing that you're supposed to do as a parent is

943
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:41,000
make them realize it's okay to cry for no reason. Like,

944
00:47:41,159 --> 00:47:43,119
don't you know what I mean? And and that when

945
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:46,639
we try to quiet a baby, we're actually going against

946
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,719
their natural adjustment system and we're trying to get them

947
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,800
to sort of conform. And then that's not a good

948
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,400
thing to be doing, like you pick up you know,

949
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,719
that kind of thing, because the message is being sent.

950
00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:00,840
Whether or not we believe that can actually get it,

951
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,199
it's being proven that it can. But here's where I

952
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,840
was going to go. One of the things that is

953
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,519
considered trauma and you need, like if you have a child,

954
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:11,800
come in and you need to do a bad you

955
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,679
got to get a background is adoption. It's considered a trauma.

956
00:48:18,039 --> 00:48:20,800
And I could see that and you feel so bad

957
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,360
because a hundred percent one hundred percent. And that's the

958
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,519
thing is like I I hesitated to even say this

959
00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:34,639
because it sounds like, well, they're babies. They don't they

960
00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:38,039
don't even speak, they won't remember this. And trauma is

961
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:41,239
in your nervous system. It's not in your brain. It's

962
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,039
in your nervous system, and it can be there forever

963
00:48:44,119 --> 00:48:47,280
and ever and ever, and a lot of times there's

964
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:51,639
we don't know that. And so with babies, you can think, ah,

965
00:48:51,639 --> 00:48:54,000
they'll get overady. You don't remember that, but it it

966
00:48:54,119 --> 00:48:57,039
goes in your nervous system. So and it is that

967
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,800
separation from the parent. Now, it doesn't mean the primary

968
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,199
caregiver couldn't be an adopted mom or even an adopted dad.

969
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,719
It doesn't mean that at all. You just have to really,

970
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,519
it's just another step. You got to be more consistent

971
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:13,760
and a little more aware. I was unaware of any

972
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,280
of this, but I'm reading this book and it's like wow,

973
00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:18,440
And I know people who have put a child up

974
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,679
for adoption, and I know people who have been adopted,

975
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,760
and I would never want to make them feel badly

976
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,519
about any of that stuff because and they're probably going

977
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,119
full shit. But maybe I don't know. I'm just telling

978
00:49:29,159 --> 00:49:31,199
you that there are these theories out there that have

979
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,880
been studied, and that's one of them. And as you said,

980
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,480
it kind of makes sense if you think about it,

981
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:41,519
not having given a child up for adoption and not

982
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:44,960
having been adopted. I have no idea, you know, but

983
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,320
I'm with you. There's a lot of times where a

984
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,880
kid better than an orphanage better than you know, if

985
00:49:53,039 --> 00:49:55,320
for some people, abortion is a terrible thing, and so

986
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,719
this is a way, right and I don't like saying

987
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:05,199
it because I have known people who tried so hard

988
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,400
to have a child biologically and they couldn't do it,

989
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,239
so they adopted because they just had so much love.

990
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,599
They wanted to love these kids and that's all they

991
00:50:15,639 --> 00:50:17,559
wanted to do. They just want to be a loving parent.

992
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,559
That's cool, Yes, I agree, but you don't want to

993
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:27,320
tell them, by the way, ah, just spitballing here, there

994
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,840
might be some trauma in that job because you adopted them, right,

995
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,199
Nobody wants to fucking hear that. I was like, oh

996
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:33,960
my god, this almost feels like something I need to

997
00:50:34,039 --> 00:50:35,320
keep secret, but it is to me.

998
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of like it goes without saying.

999
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:38,119
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1000
00:50:38,159 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: Maybe I've talked to too many adopted people, but the

1001
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,280
common thread is that, yeah, my parents gave me up.

1002
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:47,199
Speaker 1: It very well. Uh boyt And just that alone, right

1003
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,400
to say it in that way sounds pretty bad. Who

1004
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,840
wants to be rejected before they even had a chance

1005
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,280
to have a personality, right, you know what I mean?

1006
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,599
That's tough. That's really tough. Yeah. I haven't talked to

1007
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,280
enough adopted people too in that manner, In that manner

1008
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,480
to say you know, but I that coulda be your

1009
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,679
next project. It would be an interesting study. I'll tell

1010
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,519
you that, it would be a really interesting study for sure,

1011
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:17,840
because I know people who have I know of people

1012
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,159
who have found their biological parents later on and have

1013
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,480
built really wonderful relationships with the biological parent. And I

1014
00:51:26,519 --> 00:51:30,079
do wonder if, in some way, just going with the

1015
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:33,400
theory that the traumas in the nervous system, was there

1016
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,320
always this wondering like I don't really fit in here,

1017
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,599
or I don't really look like them, or I don't

1018
00:51:39,639 --> 00:51:42,440
you understand what I'm saying? Yes, like, so why am

1019
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:47,159
I hereing? What happened? Who didn't? Who did not want me? Right?

1020
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,840
Because how else can you say it?

1021
00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:51,039
Speaker 2: And then on the flip side, I was told that

1022
00:51:51,079 --> 00:51:54,159
in the sixties and the fifties, sixties, seventies, and eighties,

1023
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,639
when you adopted a child, they would put you in

1024
00:51:56,679 --> 00:52:00,719
a family that looked most like you. I wanted families

1025
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,280
to look alike. So if you were Italian, they put

1026
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,360
you in I'm not joking, they would put you in

1027
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,800
an Italian family, huh. If you were if you were

1028
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,880
irish or redheaded, they would put you in a family

1029
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:10,920
that looked kind of like you.

1030
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,599
Speaker 1: I wonder if I was a redheaded Italian because I

1031
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:14,719
had a friend who was a redheaded.

1032
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,079
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know a couple Yeah from the north.

1033
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:22,159
Speaker 1: You get Chris Bartolomeo, who was a redd Italian. Uh oh,

1034
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:26,840
I don't know. I mean I get why people would

1035
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,239
do that so that way there would be questions or

1036
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,400
all that stuff. You know what I mean. I always

1037
00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:35,360
love who is the comic this is terrible? But we

1038
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,960
have a friend who adopted someone a child of that

1039
00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:41,679
was not of the same race as them, right, and

1040
00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:46,400
this comic goes, yeah, man, anytime, like you know, a

1041
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,559
kid has one of those meltdowns on the playground and

1042
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:52,480
you're you know, or you're in the mall and they

1043
00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:54,719
just wanted the ice cream and they're screaming and yelling,

1044
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,519
they're crying, and you just scoop them up and just

1045
00:52:56,519 --> 00:53:00,000
start running for the door. I always think I'm gonna

1046
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:04,119
get tackled by security because I'm of a different And

1047
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,480
it just made me laugh just because you could see, right,

1048
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:11,440
and there's so much judgment about fucking everything, you know,

1049
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:12,920
we all got opinions on. Uh.

1050
00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: Well, my grandfather's a very famous story of my family.

1051
00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:19,119
But my grandfather, he would drink wine all the time,

1052
00:53:19,159 --> 00:53:21,599
made it himself, threw his own grapes, made his own wine.

1053
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,679
Sunday dinner comes around. The whole family's around this before

1054
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,639
I was born. Okay, so we had had a cousin

1055
00:53:26,679 --> 00:53:29,639
named Veto. He was adopted. It's Italian and he's adopted.

1056
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: So he's asking my grandfather, So grand Granpa, where are

1057
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:33,679
we from? Grandfather? So what do this?

1058
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: By the third question, I think my grandfather just wanted

1059
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,199
to keep drinking. He goes, well, what do you care?

1060
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:42,519
Speaker 4: You're adopted? Grandma said. The whole family went to bed

1061
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:43,440
angry that night.

1062
00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:47,679
Speaker 1: Was he Yeah, my cousin told me this story.

1063
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,119
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we were all we were embarrassed for him. Yeah,

1064
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:54,239
he was adopted. Okay, but he didn't know. He knew,

1065
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,400
Oh he did, he knew. But the point is is

1066
00:53:56,519 --> 00:53:59,079
that you know, you don't what do you care? You're adopted?

1067
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,079
Like you don't want to.

1068
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 1: Us You're outside again. He knew he was adopted.

1069
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 2: That was the way my grandfather handled it. But how

1070
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,599
about I'm tired of answering your questions. That's what tricked

1071
00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:10,320
my wine and watched Barney.

1072
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: Miller even in the Godfather. Right, Yeah, Tom Hagen was

1073
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,039
taken in. But Hagen was taken in. But was he

1074
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:18,239
adopted or just taken in? He was taken in.

1075
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 2: He wasn't adopted according to the book, Uh, taken in

1076
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,519
as a child. He was taken in as a child. Yeah,

1077
00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:28,199
Sonny knew him, but he kept the same name. Don

1078
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,960
Corleon did not want him to forget his heritage, so

1079
00:54:31,039 --> 00:54:33,920
he was You know, there's even Eliza's It's easy for

1080
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,599
you to say, Tom, you're not he's not your father.

1081
00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's much a father to me, is you? And Mike? Yeah? Right? Right?

1082
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,800
But then why the Avengers is shooting? Yes?

1083
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 2: Remember so he wasn't officially adopted, but they took him in, right.

1084
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: But and you can see that too. And I think

1085
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:52,119
like there are sayings that often say anybody can uh

1086
00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:54,880
be a dad, but it takes a real man to

1087
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:55,320
be a father.

1088
00:54:55,559 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 2: Yes, then he fool the grant couldn't have a baby

1089
00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:58,800
that takes him.

1090
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: Oh man, you self edited. My goodness, We'll take a

1091
00:55:04,519 --> 00:55:07,639
moment just since we're on these human vice things. You

1092
00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:11,559
ever look around and wonder who want the car next

1093
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:17,079
to me? And what are they on? Ever, No, I'm serious.

1094
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:19,360
Do you ever like who's say the car next to

1095
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:20,239
me and what are they on?

1096
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 2: I just out of curiosity, not what are they on,

1097
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,320
but like, well, what's going on?

1098
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: Okay? I wonder what's going on? Mane? Okay, all right,

1099
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:29,039
we'll get into that right after this. If the new

1100
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:31,880
year has you saying I did not sign up for this,

1101
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:36,039
like a worker's comp case, social security disability, or a

1102
00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:39,559
personal injury claim, don't try to google lawyer your way

1103
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:43,360
through it. Go to Connors and Farris. They have offices

1104
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,719
in Buffalo, New York City, Syracuse, and Rochester and they'll

1105
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,159
get back to you within twenty four hours. Yeah, so

1106
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,320
even when you're stress scrolling at two am, you can

1107
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,880
call two six to two COMP, tell them a little

1108
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,719
bit about what's going on in your life, and within

1109
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,679
twenty four hours one of their attorneys will get back

1110
00:56:01,679 --> 00:56:04,639
to you. You'll talk to real lawyers who will explain

1111
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:09,280
things in plain English, not legal mumbo jumbo. Workers comp,

1112
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:15,280
social security disability, personal injury complicated. Absolutely something you should

1113
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:21,119
handle alone. Nope, Connors and Ferris, experienced, responsive and committed

1114
00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:25,000
to serving you better. Called two six' two. Comp helps

1115
00:56:25,039 --> 00:56:40,079
available right now my friend just send me, somebody just

1116
00:56:40,159 --> 00:56:43,320
send me A Darth vader holding againness and it says Hello.

1117
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,239
Darkness my old friend t. Shirts WELL i just, Bought,

1118
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:53,360
yeah BUT i bought. HM i was debating for a,

1119
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:58,639
while LIKE i, go this is, unhealthy debating DO i

1120
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:01,280
get the black shirt or DO i get the green?

1121
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,719
Shirt SO i, Thought i'm really only gonna wear it

1122
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,119
For Saint Patrick's day because he's kind of like Silly

1123
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:09,079
warrior walking around with a whol Of dogs's my old.

1124
00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:12,559
FRIEND i, mean it's, funny it's a conversation. Piece. Uh

1125
00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:15,480
SO i did buy the green, one and he said

1126
00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:17,079
it to, me AND i, SAID i just bought a

1127
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:19,280
shirt For Saint Patrick's. Day with that, saying he, GOES

1128
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,880
i do listen fuck, fuck oh, YEAH i. FORGOT i

1129
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,679
forget WHAT i. Say you know WHAT i. Mean it's

1130
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:28,960
been like that my whole. LIFE i SOMETIMES i don't

1131
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,000
know What i've said on the air off the. Air

1132
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,079
right when we were in radio, CONVERSATIONS i HAD i

1133
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:38,239
had no. Idea, uh but we're talking about like, here

1134
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,599
we talked about the d M, v we talked ABOUT, gps,

1135
00:57:40,639 --> 00:57:46,679
right we talked About Billy idol and you know all his,

1136
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,599
vices that he's still alive at Seventy Billy idol should be.

1137
00:57:49,639 --> 00:57:51,079
Speaker 2: Dead, Well but they tell you when you get off,

1138
00:57:51,079 --> 00:57:54,079
heroin they put you on. Methadone, yeah that's the next level.

1139
00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:58,079
Speaker 1: Down, yeah you. Know so maybe then he was out of.

1140
00:57:58,159 --> 00:58:01,079
Something but even that's, addictive of course it. IS i,

1141
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:06,039
mean freebasing cocaine is fairly similar to. CRACK i think

1142
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:08,239
the rock has. Crystallized the other maybeat something. Else but

1143
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,400
that's How Richard pryor burned himself up pretty? Bad is?

1144
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,079
Speaker 2: That how Like Ricky nelson died their freebasing cocaine on a. Plane,

1145
00:58:15,239 --> 00:58:16,679
yeah they caught fire and the plane.

1146
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:22,679
Speaker 1: Crashed, luna, listen WILL i should not have? It that's

1147
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,920
so so it's. Terrible can't please every?

1148
00:58:26,039 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: Once oh, yeah, gosh we.

1149
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: Doing but did you ever sit at a red light

1150
00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:39,119
and look around and, GO i wonder how sober everybody

1151
00:58:39,159 --> 00:58:40,880
in the other cars really are at this?

1152
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: Moment sobriety not at the red light WHEN i see,

1153
00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:49,760
him like driving back and forth in between lanes and stupid, stuff, yes,

1154
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,639
okay or like if it's snowing, out But peter's, Side,

1155
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:53,119
no they're in a.

1156
00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: Hurry but if you got somebody who's like gripped the

1157
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,920
wheel there just straight, AHEAD i always go for the

1158
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,119
coco bottle. Glasses well not the coke boild. Glasses, yes

1159
00:59:02,239 --> 00:59:05,840
well that's a h that's somebody who shouldn't probably, too

1160
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:14,199
which is, accurate by the, Way BUT i Always and

1161
00:59:14,199 --> 00:59:15,760
then you look over at somebody else and you, go

1162
00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:22,360
either they just left yoga or a felony because they're, sweaty,

1163
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:24,400
stringy you know WHAT i, mean they're like AND i

1164
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,599
can never. Tell and the REASON i bring this up

1165
00:59:26,639 --> 00:59:29,360
is there was a headline WHERE i read that a

1166
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,079
lady had a headlight. Out they pull her. Over she

1167
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,840
had like expired license or. Something so now they search

1168
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,360
the car and they find like a ton of meth

1169
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,320
and a ton of cocaine and other, stuff and they.

1170
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,719
Go you never know who you're on the road. With

1171
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,079
you could be on the road with the family and

1172
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:49,599
that's going To, wegmans and you could be on the

1173
00:59:49,679 --> 00:59:53,000
road with someone who's delivered meth in cocaine, somewhere and

1174
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:54,840
you are on the road with those. People you just.

1175
00:59:54,920 --> 01:00:01,000
KNOW i remember at like five, o'clock because we since

1176
01:00:01,039 --> 01:00:04,000
we worked odd, hours never really were on the road

1177
01:00:04,639 --> 01:00:08,280
when there was real, traffic right, Right you missed Those.

1178
01:00:08,239 --> 01:00:10,599
Speaker 2: When alex did the traffic reports for, us she, goes

1179
01:00:10,639 --> 01:00:12,400
there's no traffic on the road, today and you And

1180
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:13,159
tommy opened.

1181
01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:16,599
Speaker 1: Up wait a, Minute wait a, minute there's always.

1182
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:22,239
Speaker 2: Traffic as long as there's a car, somewhere there's traffic.

1183
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: The. Top, george hear. This it's we were. Awful we were.

1184
01:00:29,519 --> 01:00:33,239
Awful what she meant was no traffic, delays but she

1185
01:00:33,239 --> 01:00:36,840
didn't say no, traffic no, traffic cars are off the.

1186
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,360
Road i'm going. Listening this is.

1187
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,159
Speaker 2: Your turn to try to turn four nine into the

1188
01:00:43,199 --> 01:00:45,159
autobod because nobody is.

1189
01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:48,039
Speaker 1: Around, well NOW i have done that on the uh

1190
01:00:48,599 --> 01:00:53,119
you know Loop? No? Uh what is it called out

1191
01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:56,239
toward The Ontario State? Parkway? Yes is? That is that

1192
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,719
The Ontario State parkway out by the. Lake. YES i

1193
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,559
went out there and a guy portia but it was, manual,

1194
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,039
Okay AND i was just fucking. Flying and THEN i

1195
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:08,280
needed to come down real.

1196
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 2: Quick AND i gotta be careful out. There there's a

1197
01:01:10,039 --> 01:01:11,800
lot of swamp. Land you might end up in.

1198
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: The, no, no, no, NO i was. Fine he just, said opening,

1199
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,679
up so you don't have to tell me.

1200
01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:20,119
Speaker 2: Twice wasn't It Billy moran who once, said you're not

1201
01:01:20,159 --> 01:01:21,159
as good as you think you.

1202
01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: Are all the. TIME i said that all the, time

1203
01:01:23,519 --> 01:01:26,840
and my sons remind me. THAT i say to them,

1204
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,199
often do you know as good as you? Think your?

1205
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,440
Dad not as good AS i once? Was BUT i

1206
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,519
always think like human beings are operating with with like secret.

1207
01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:41,599
Lives oh, YEAH i Mean i'm. Not maybe MAYBE i

1208
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:44,360
shouldn't say. Secret that's that's not that's like are you

1209
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,000
the person you are at home when you're out in? Public? Yeah,

1210
01:01:48,039 --> 01:01:50,159
well think about the basest.

1211
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: Form of yourself at? Home are you that person in?

1212
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,880
Public of course not, no But i'll change. It hidden,

1213
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,199
lives hidden, lives, okay the.

1214
01:01:58,239 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: Thing parts of ourselves that we. Hot.

1215
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah you don't see me scratching my belly button in public,

1216
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:03,880
often But i'll do at.

1217
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:09,679
Speaker 1: Home, oky what's? That but how normal someone looks versus

1218
01:02:09,719 --> 01:02:13,920
what they're carrying could be completely surprising and. Shocking AND

1219
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:14,880
i will tell you the.

1220
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:20,039
Speaker 2: MORE J simpson, right perfect, EXAMPLE j perfect.

1221
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: Example now he ain't.

1222
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,199
Speaker 2: Kidding he ran for two thousand yards in nineteen seventy.

1223
01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:26,719
Speaker 1: Three is a buffalo. Bill he didn't killed. NOBODY i

1224
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:32,719
just saw a comic On TikToker. SOMEWHERE i WISH i

1225
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:39,320
got this guy's. Name and he, goes you, know, ABORTION

1226
01:02:40,159 --> 01:02:43,559
i MEAN i could see the argument against, it AND

1227
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:46,480
i can see the argument for. It he, goes let

1228
01:02:46,519 --> 01:02:52,079
me give you an. Example young woman has a, baby

1229
01:02:52,119 --> 01:02:54,400
decides to have the. Baby NOW i put it up for.

1230
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,400
Adoption but it's like the nineteen. Forties it's the late nineteen,

1231
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:03,880
forties and and you, know she. Does this baby gets was,

1232
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,400
born and he gets has grown, up and it becomes

1233
01:03:07,559 --> 01:03:10,519
like an amazing athlete and it sets all kinds of.

1234
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:13,559
Records he goes to THE nfl and it's all kinds of,

1235
01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:17,880
records and then afterwards becomes very popular as a. Sportscaster

1236
01:03:18,239 --> 01:03:21,119
it gets onto, movies it gets onto all that, stuff

1237
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,480
and you're, going, yeah this is why you shouldn't have.

1238
01:03:24,519 --> 01:03:26,280
Abortion but that.

1239
01:03:26,159 --> 01:03:31,039
Speaker 5: Person turned out to be Oh Ja, sipson and he

1240
01:03:31,079 --> 01:03:37,239
goes and THERE i kinda, go, well the, abortion we

1241
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,079
won't have any of these, problems you, know which is,

1242
01:03:40,199 --> 01:03:41,920
terrible but it's a funny.

1243
01:03:42,519 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: Joke and WHAT i think sometimes is the greatest thing

1244
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:50,719
about comedy is that you can show our flawed, selves

1245
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,000
or even our flawed thinking if you do it, well

1246
01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:57,920
you know WHAT i, mean or taking two things that

1247
01:03:58,039 --> 01:04:03,599
just wouldn't be together and and you just gotta you,

1248
01:04:03,639 --> 01:04:05,840
know join them together in some. WAY i just think

1249
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,519
that sometimes comedy could be the greatest teacher of, things

1250
01:04:09,639 --> 01:04:12,119
or even the greatest lesson in Ourseln, GOD i think that.

1251
01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:15,719
WAY i should Probably nick get buy of that, way you.

1252
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,320
Know but that was, funny like you, know, no, really,

1253
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,760
glad really, Good i'll turn you know WHAT i? Mean

1254
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,679
and so, RIGHT i, mean, look how rare is? That

1255
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:30,559
It's it's a very very very very rare. Thing here's

1256
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:33,320
the REASON i asked this. Question this lady gets, popped, Right,

1257
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,360
okay big, deal not the first, time not going to

1258
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,639
be the last. Time, well WHAT i wonder, is and

1259
01:04:38,679 --> 01:04:41,159
you brought this up with like the golp ones and

1260
01:04:41,159 --> 01:04:43,920
what did you say about golp ones and the pharmaceutical

1261
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,039
Company they want to keep you hooked for? Life? Okay

1262
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:51,000
SO I i look at AND i better living through

1263
01:04:51,079 --> 01:04:55,159
chemistry right. Now sometimes it's a. Tool if you are

1264
01:04:55,199 --> 01:05:01,039
a personal. Squire there Are barry Bods berry, bonds ask

1265
01:05:01,079 --> 01:05:12,320
for forgiveness, later very. Bonds it's, joke, Right but, okay

1266
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,199
so if these and some of, Them i'll, say your.

1267
01:05:16,199 --> 01:05:19,480
Tools let's say you're somebody who's, uh you got a bad,

1268
01:05:19,519 --> 01:05:22,559
temper quick, temper and it hasn't served you well for a.

1269
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:26,719
While don't look at me like, that and don't look

1270
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,440
at me like. That and let's say they put you

1271
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:34,920
on a low dose OF ssr one or what do

1272
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:35,400
they call, them.

1273
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: Yes, Inhibitors, okay s SR s that s s all,

1274
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:43,599
right thank. You and since you're taking the master's, Classes

1275
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,079
i'm telling, you, Well i'm just put on the stuff

1276
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:47,400
SO i.

1277
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,679
Speaker 1: Know, okay, okay. Okay did it? Help? Yes and it

1278
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,920
gives you a little bit of a cushion to actually

1279
01:05:53,159 --> 01:05:56,079
absorb something before you react to, it, yes which is always,

1280
01:05:56,079 --> 01:05:59,039
better not for temper but for other. Stuff, yes, okay for.

1281
01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:01,159
Whatever But i'm saying for someone who's got a quick,

1282
01:06:01,199 --> 01:06:03,800
tiper that could be, it and that's better living through.

1283
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,559
Chemistry that's. GREAT i don't even call it. THAT i

1284
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:09,159
would say that's a tool to help you be the

1285
01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:11,840
best you could. Be, yes nothing wrong with. That but

1286
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,360
then there's some all these other things where like it's

1287
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,599
pain medication and he probably really needed it and maybe

1288
01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:19,400
you get a diggor to do, it BUT i, go

1289
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,760
but you're getting behind the wheel of the fucking car

1290
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,920
and sharing the road with. Me and WHAT i started

1291
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,199
to say earlier was when you AND i not on

1292
01:06:26,239 --> 01:06:28,519
the roads at the time of traffic and you brought Up.

1293
01:06:28,519 --> 01:06:33,440
ALEX i remember being, like not far from where we're

1294
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,599
sitting right now at a traffic, light just around five,

1295
01:06:37,639 --> 01:06:40,039
o'clock AND i looked to my right and there is

1296
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:45,840
a guy drinking a. Beer plain this. Day he probably

1297
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:50,480
was more sober than anybody leaving a. Bar and by the,

1298
01:06:50,519 --> 01:06:52,960
way a lot of people, go if you have that third,

1299
01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:55,719
drink leave immediately because it's going to take a while

1300
01:06:55,719 --> 01:06:57,360
to get in your, system and if you get pulled,

1301
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,559
over you'll probably blow under and you can keep going

1302
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:03,519
home and. Recover but this guy. Was it's illegal to

1303
01:07:03,679 --> 01:07:06,960
drink and, drive and he. Was he was drinking a

1304
01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:10,119
beer in plane. SIDE i remember looking at LIKE i

1305
01:07:10,159 --> 01:07:11,760
had to do a double take. Him it was he

1306
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,440
was behind, Me it was in my rearview. MIRROR i,

1307
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:14,960
went what the fun AND i had to see it

1308
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,880
WAS i think it was a Mults AND i was,

1309
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:21,960
like holy, shit holy, shit, right and you go, OH.

1310
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 2: I Think i've seen, ACTUALLY i Think i've actually seen

1311
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,440
people driving on the way to the, podcast like those

1312
01:07:27,679 --> 01:07:30,840
big forty ouncers in the. Car, WELL i Think i've

1313
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,280
told you about, it like the first year we were

1314
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,159
doing the. Podcast, yeah five six o'clock in the.

1315
01:07:34,199 --> 01:07:37,039
Speaker 1: Afternoon, yeah guy's drinking one of those pounder. Cans, YEAH

1316
01:07:37,079 --> 01:07:39,679
i don't. Care, yeah driving. Amaze and by the, way

1317
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,840
it Wasn't. Kevin it's it's probably no worse than drinking

1318
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,679
a diet coke in terms of. Distractability AND i would

1319
01:07:46,679 --> 01:07:49,599
assume that's the first. One so they're not, drunk, right

1320
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:52,800
so THEY i, mean you would get it for open

1321
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,920
container and you probably that would just usurp, everything even

1322
01:07:57,039 --> 01:07:59,239
whatever YOUR bac. IS i don't, know unless you have

1323
01:07:59,239 --> 01:08:01,440
a really good, attorney we could probably argue. THAT i

1324
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,039
have no, Idea BUT i do wonder with like all

1325
01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:06,760
the pharmaceutical, companies is you sally want to get you

1326
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,679
hooked on something so now you need it whatever it,

1327
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:14,400
is or like. It you know you're we don't, know

1328
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,760
people doc, SHOP i need, THIS i need, this AND

1329
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,880
i need, this and they and the two doctors or

1330
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,760
three doctors, whatever don't know anybody. Else by the, way

1331
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,319
you could like they could mail it to you now,

1332
01:08:24,359 --> 01:08:30,800
Too go To roman, yeah gets go to. Hymns do

1333
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,880
you have a history? Depression, yes you might want to try, This,

1334
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,720
okay sign me. Up, Great, yeah that's how it, works,

1335
01:08:36,039 --> 01:08:38,239
Right and it might BE i don't, know maybe it's.

1336
01:08:38,279 --> 01:08:40,239
OKAY i have no. Idea i'm Not i'm not. Trying

1337
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:42,159
i'm just, saying, LIKE i just. Wonder WHEN i look,

1338
01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:45,800
AROUND i, go you got a phone in? There m.

1339
01:08:46,039 --> 01:08:49,079
H and he also could be on. SOMETHING i THINK

1340
01:08:49,119 --> 01:08:51,119
i just want to get, home, yes you, KNOW i,

1341
01:08:51,119 --> 01:08:53,279
MEAN i just. Please it's like fucked.

1342
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 2: Up it's fucked, up and that that happens more than

1343
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,039
you think or more than you want to. Believe and

1344
01:08:59,079 --> 01:09:02,800
by the grace Of, god they're staying between the lines usually.

1345
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,119
Speaker 1: Yes right or a lot of times right, exactly and

1346
01:09:06,119 --> 01:09:08,399
that that was all or you know people now with.

1347
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:12,399
Weed some some people just, oh, dude that is taking

1348
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:17,960
a little gummy and you know they're doing thirty five and.

1349
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 2: Well megan McCain came out, Yesterday john McCain's, daughter and

1350
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,039
she used to be on The view of, course and

1351
01:09:22,079 --> 01:09:24,960
she says she she regrets pushing for the legalization of

1352
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:29,239
marijuana because of that very. Reason really that, like now

1353
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:33,600
we have created a generation of. Zombies but we can't

1354
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:35,760
tell if that because, like you could smell alcohol at

1355
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:36,399
somebody you've been.

1356
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: Drinking, oh you can smell. Weed, Wow i'll smell. Weed you, can't, Like, oh, god,

1357
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,600
gummy you. Can't. DUDE i went To wegmans the other.

1358
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:44,760
Day i'm standing in the.

1359
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,119
Speaker 2: CHECKOUT i like the like the five items are less and.

1360
01:09:47,119 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: DUDE i could smell the. Weed, okay did you? People did?

1361
01:09:50,079 --> 01:09:52,079
You now here's the. Thing, now you got to turn

1362
01:09:52,079 --> 01:09:56,239
that into a. Game you got to guess before you

1363
01:09:56,279 --> 01:09:58,800
find the. Person you got to guess what they're. Buying

1364
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:02,720
that'll be a, creaky, right if you smell the weed

1365
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,800
and you're at a grocery, store you got to guess

1366
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,880
what's in that person's. Cart you gotta. Look it's got

1367
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:12,600
to be, like you, Know, dorito's and it's got to

1368
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,760
be some kind of, pizza pizza, logs anything that's quick and.

1369
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:22,279
Easy hey, Man oh, yeah, definitely somebody put in the.

1370
01:10:22,359 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 2: Microwaves by the, WAY i got told by a guy

1371
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,960
over the weekend how much he misses what you're doing

1372
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,720
at the courthouse and the funeral home game with the tanning,

1373
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:36,039
Beds i'm The christmas songs to the waffle houses because

1374
01:10:36,079 --> 01:10:38,039
nobody does that stuff for they bow.

1375
01:10:38,199 --> 01:10:42,039
Speaker 1: Wow now not in this. Area, no, NO i. Understand

1376
01:10:42,119 --> 01:10:45,880
and somebody mocked. Us somebody mocked. Us somebody mocked. Us

1377
01:10:46,039 --> 01:10:49,479
somebody brought up the podcast on a radio show at one.

1378
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,239
Speaker 2: Point oh really yeah here in.

1379
01:10:51,319 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: Town, yes, okay just, Really i'm aware of these, things,

1380
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,600
okay and they, said oh, yeah still doing bits from

1381
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,239
twenty years. Ago was, like, well maybe they got a.

1382
01:11:01,239 --> 01:11:04,039
POINT i never said anything to anybody because it didn't

1383
01:11:04,079 --> 01:11:06,319
really bother. Me it just made me. Think it. Did

1384
01:11:06,399 --> 01:11:08,640
it made me, think AND i, thought, well maybe that's

1385
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,279
not what's. There but they're, funny and you know, what fuck.

1386
01:11:12,319 --> 01:11:14,000
IT i think we bring it.

1387
01:11:14,039 --> 01:11:16,119
Speaker 2: Back people like.

1388
01:11:16,199 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 1: It it's. Funny you worked, Now i'll ask. You you

1389
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:20,640
don't really have time to do.

1390
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:26,039
Speaker 2: It i'll make time to do, it, DUDE i will make.

1391
01:11:26,079 --> 01:11:28,760
Time we got to get a burner phone, though for

1392
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:33,359
the tanning bed bit and the waffle house. Bit, okay

1393
01:11:33,399 --> 01:11:35,960
but once you do at the, COURTHOUSE i could do

1394
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:36,520
that at any.

1395
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,279
Speaker 1: TIME i got to carve out some time that. Way.

1396
01:11:38,319 --> 01:11:41,760
Now now see here's the problem because it would be

1397
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,920
you AND i in here, Right SO i don't want

1398
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,640
to know whether they're going to. Go oh do we

1399
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:52,119
want to do it? Live? Yeah so you're thinking the bed,

1400
01:11:52,199 --> 01:11:54,760
live but you're thinking the tanning beds, live.

1401
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: Yes because because when we, tape that's when women are.

1402
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,039
Tanning somebody set that tanning bit The Golden tans in The.

1403
01:12:01,079 --> 01:12:04,239
Speaker 1: South how's a, taker? Wregg how CAN i help? You

1404
01:12:04,319 --> 01:12:07,840
it's Golden NOW i have family members that own a tanning,

1405
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:13,199
salon AND i think they're going away for a. While

1406
01:12:15,159 --> 01:12:15,880
there were still.

1407
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 2: There, yeah we look up the funeral home in town

1408
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,479
like we used. To then we look up the tanning

1409
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,319
bed and we you, know we we we missed an

1410
01:12:22,319 --> 01:12:24,239
opportunity Because Golden.

1411
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:27,079
Speaker 1: Tans we came up with this, idea.

1412
01:12:27,079 --> 01:12:29,319
Speaker 2: Though you didn't come up with somebody else did, No

1413
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:29,960
you did.

1414
01:12:30,199 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 1: No but there's no way that it came up sober

1415
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,680
whoever came up with. That you came up with the,

1416
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,520
IDEA i don't. Think So i'm with. YOU i don't

1417
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,039
it Was it Wasn't, tommy it was you or, me

1418
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,520
or you got it from. Somebody, well What i'm, saying

1419
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,479
is wherever the idea. Originated i'm not looking for. Credit

1420
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,800
that wasn't my point or Even i'm just saying it

1421
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:53,159
couldn't have come from sober human things like. That no,

1422
01:12:53,159 --> 01:12:58,720
NOBODY i don't. Know, right somebody with a lot of

1423
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,640
emotional baggage is no longer drinking and just looking for an.

1424
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:06,399
Escape we're gonna fuck with people and call The i'm

1425
01:13:06,399 --> 01:13:09,319
willing to do. That i'll get a burner. Phone all,

1426
01:13:09,399 --> 01:13:11,560
Right i'll get a burner. Phone we can we can do.

1427
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,720
THAT i HAVE i have a whole system.

1428
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:21,199
Speaker 2: Out ivanus is dead and we need to get the body.

1429
01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: That we need to get the body some. Color can

1430
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,359
we put it in? There, yeah you can bring it around,

1431
01:13:26,399 --> 01:13:28,840
back but make it like a half. Hour remember they

1432
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,960
used to they would say, That i'd be willing to do.

1433
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,199
That like what if we did it? Monthly not every

1434
01:13:35,279 --> 01:13:37,439
not every? Time We, yeah we get do it like

1435
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,000
once a, month once a, month we do one or the.

1436
01:13:40,039 --> 01:13:44,319
Other i'm in AND i and, here what kind of

1437
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,640
jack is in your? Phone you have a different what

1438
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,159
do you you have To is it the same thing

1439
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:54,880
as is this? Though? No? Oh because all, right BECAUSE

1440
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,079
i have wireless mics that that the receiver goes into your.

1441
01:13:58,079 --> 01:14:00,079
Speaker 2: Phone oh, yeah, NO i have the same, JACK i

1442
01:14:00,119 --> 01:14:02,399
have a Different, WELL i think the iPhone is a

1443
01:14:02,399 --> 01:14:02,680
little bit.

1444
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,039
Speaker 1: Different that's, okay we can figure it. Out, yeah well either.

1445
01:14:06,079 --> 01:14:09,840
WAY I i have two sets from when before iPhone

1446
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,319
switched everything anybody n AND i just bought other ones

1447
01:14:13,319 --> 01:14:17,079
AND i love. THEM i use them all the, time

1448
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,000
so they're. Great uh, yeah let's do it once a.

1449
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,159
Month once a month we bring back what you doing

1450
01:14:23,159 --> 01:14:26,199
at the. Courthouse the following, month we would do the tanning.

1451
01:14:26,279 --> 01:14:29,199
Speaker 2: Bed, game but then the waffle. House Waffle house is

1452
01:14:29,239 --> 01:14:33,439
more of a holiday thing Though Christmas carrol's and they'd

1453
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,119
have to bet whether we finish them or.

1454
01:14:35,159 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: Not it Was. Juice juice was telling like one of our.

1455
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,039
Speaker 2: Buddies oh bad because who moved to town after like

1456
01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:47,000
you you were no longer part of that. Show and

1457
01:14:47,039 --> 01:14:49,039
he was telling about all the stuff we. Did, oh the,

1458
01:14:49,039 --> 01:14:50,760
gate the sting in the park.

1459
01:14:52,079 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: In Genesee. VALLEY i gotta tell, you that was a

1460
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,079
that was a big. One that was a that was

1461
01:14:57,159 --> 01:14:59,520
kind of an eye opener for. Me, YEAH i felt really,

1462
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,880
bad AND i THINK i told my kid about that

1463
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,640
And he's, like why would you feel? Bad he, goes

1464
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,600
that guy could be you, know, yeah fucking his family

1465
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:08,880
and all, that And i'm, like, yeah but what you're

1466
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,960
not seeing is why is he doing. It he's unfulfilled

1467
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,239
in some way and always probably has been a closeted

1468
01:15:15,279 --> 01:15:20,479
homosexual Who now you're right or you're, right this is

1469
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,439
all built on there's a whole. FAMILY i come crashing,

1470
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:25,640
down you. Know grandpa's.

1471
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 2: Gay just told me that he worked with a guy

1472
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:33,079
who he got caught In Genesee Valley park and the

1473
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,600
reason they caught it was because each of the cars

1474
01:15:36,039 --> 01:15:37,239
have like a tracking.

1475
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: System.

1476
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,520
Speaker 2: And so he, goes, YEAH i took a short, cut

1477
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,199
and they looked at the. Back there there's no short,

1478
01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:45,600
cut there's no customers in that.

1479
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,359
Speaker 1: Area and then they looked at they.

1480
01:15:47,319 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 2: Found the sheets in the back of the, car on

1481
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:50,079
the back of the.

1482
01:15:50,119 --> 01:15:56,159
Speaker 1: Truck, well, yeah what we're talking about is there was

1483
01:15:56,199 --> 01:16:02,039
A we found out that there was download hookups happening

1484
01:16:02,119 --> 01:16:04,720
in the area, parks and people would back in to

1485
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,840
indicate that they were they turn they turned their cruising lights, on,

1486
01:16:08,079 --> 01:16:11,920
right And i'm. Ready so we decided we would, go

1487
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,479
and we would because we saw a lot of this on,

1488
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,319
craigslist people talking about their hooks up in the. Park

1489
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,399
and we decided who is going to be, hotter me Or.

1490
01:16:21,399 --> 01:16:24,680
Tommy and the way we would determine who was hotter

1491
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:29,960
is who can, attract who track the, most or who

1492
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:34,239
would get somebody the. Fastest and a, guy shirtless guy

1493
01:16:34,279 --> 01:16:36,199
rolled up on a bicycle To tommy like it's like

1494
01:16:36,199 --> 01:16:39,039
thirty five degrees, out like there was like a little

1495
01:16:39,079 --> 01:16:41,399
smoke pell he was not. Shirtless he was in a

1496
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:42,039
short sleeve.

1497
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,359
Speaker 2: Shirt in a short sleeve shirt And spandex BIKE. Spanx yeah,

1498
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,239
right just looking to get his rocks.

1499
01:16:47,239 --> 01:16:50,239
Speaker 1: Off yeah. Yep then another guy hit On. Phil and

1500
01:16:50,359 --> 01:16:52,319
that's the guy that always made ME i felt bad

1501
01:16:52,319 --> 01:16:56,159
about because that guy said Because phil said to, Him

1502
01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:00,279
i'm waiting for my. Wife he, goes, HEY i want

1503
01:17:00,319 --> 01:17:02,760
to take a, Walk and it was an older, gentleman

1504
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,520
would you like to take a walk in the? Woods

1505
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,039
would you like to it sounds so fucking. Creepy would

1506
01:17:08,039 --> 01:17:09,680
you like to take a walk because they had paths and,

1507
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:16,479
Stuff And phil, said oh, No he, goes uh, Uh

1508
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,000
i'm married and he held up his hand like that

1509
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,239
to show the, ring and the other, guy the older

1510
01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:25,520
man goes, simp so AM I and Then phil, said,

1511
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,840
no my wife's on our. Way we're gonna walk the

1512
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,199
dogs in the, park WHICH i thought was like really

1513
01:17:30,279 --> 01:17:32,000
quick thinking on his, part BECAUSE i think some people

1514
01:17:32,079 --> 01:17:35,840
might get really. Nervous but that WAS I i remember

1515
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,640
BECAUSE i saw the. GUY i THINK i was Watching.

1516
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 2: Phil yeah you, were you were like perched up.

1517
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,119
Speaker 1: Top, YEAH i was. SOMEWHERE i was BECAUSE i watched

1518
01:17:43,119 --> 01:17:44,239
this whole, thing AND i remember see.

1519
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 2: Taping it WAS, i, yes you were. Taping we had

1520
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,359
to take the video down because people got.

1521
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 1: UPSET i don't remember. That, yeah, REALLY jt made us

1522
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:54,000
take the.

1523
01:17:54,119 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 2: Video he thought it was, brilliant but he made us

1524
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,359
take the video that we put it on the website

1525
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,159
Because phil, goes, yeah listen TO.

1526
01:17:59,239 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 1: Cmf expo some gays On.

1527
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,520
Speaker 2: Tuesday so the, Label so the label on the website

1528
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,479
made it sound, like you, know we were like just

1529
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,880
bashing people for for being. Gay that was we were

1530
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:14,600
talking about finding people, undercover you know At Genesee Valley.

1531
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: Park, no we weren't even trying to, expose not even exposing.

1532
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:18,800
People there was my.

1533
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:22,119
Speaker 2: Camera you had like one of those like, yeah, special

1534
01:18:23,119 --> 01:18:25,319
you could tape with your cell. Phone they had these

1535
01:18:25,319 --> 01:18:28,760
special cameras that we were able to, use but handheld,

1536
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,399
cameras you're able to tape. Stuff you, Know you've been

1537
01:18:30,399 --> 01:18:33,079
able to tape thirty minutes of. Video and you were

1538
01:18:33,119 --> 01:18:36,960
Taping phil getting picked, up, right and then you drove By,

1539
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,920
phil gave him a thumbs up like you were proud of,

1540
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,960
them and then drove off because you lived around the

1541
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,159
corner And phil sat in.

1542
01:18:44,399 --> 01:18:48,520
Speaker 1: GUESH i was over in. PICTURE i don't. Remember, yeah

1543
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,920
this was this was, oh, yeah this was in The pittsford.

1544
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,680
Area this was in oh it was, yeah because we're

1545
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,479
doing different. Mills, yeah we were doing different. PARKS i

1546
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,399
used to go running through there AND i would see

1547
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,439
out all. Right but the point, was, YEAH i wasn't

1548
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,159
to expose anybody or even make fun of. Them it

1549
01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:10,199
was honestly to see what BECAUSE i always, said, uh

1550
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,640
you should be flattered if someone of the same sex

1551
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:17,119
hits on you, that because that's like real, flattery, right

1552
01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:19,840
you kind of. Know and remember there was the kid

1553
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:24,000
upstairs who SAID i was his old older man. Crush, yeah,

1554
01:19:24,079 --> 01:19:27,239
yeah he was in the he was in the.

1555
01:19:27,239 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 2: Military and then they did a bit where he was

1556
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:33,159
going to, Massage, uh somebody in the off was It

1557
01:19:33,199 --> 01:19:36,239
moose or somebody like with like ky jelly or.

1558
01:19:36,279 --> 01:19:39,199
Speaker 1: Something, okay, yeah and then he wanted but he came

1559
01:19:39,239 --> 01:19:39,840
in and.

1560
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 2: He told you you were his.

1561
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,520
Speaker 1: Crush. Yeah, yeah you're my older man crushed is what he.

1562
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,039
Said and he was, Yeah AND i, Said i'm. Flattered

1563
01:19:46,039 --> 01:19:47,359
AND i think everybody THOUGHT i was going to get

1564
01:19:47,359 --> 01:19:50,239
super uncomfortable and stuff BECAUSE i had talked about being

1565
01:19:50,319 --> 01:19:53,439
molested or, whatever AND i wasn't uncomfortable at. ALL i

1566
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,039
actually found it. Flattery so when we went out to the,

1567
01:19:56,079 --> 01:19:59,800
park it wasn't it wasn't to necessarily. MOCK i guess

1568
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:04,800
you could in some way say you weren't there for good, intentions,

1569
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,960
okay but we were there to see who was, hotter

1570
01:20:08,119 --> 01:20:10,640
who's gonna get hit? ON i. DIDN'T i don't remember

1571
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,640
the video part of, that AND i know the camera

1572
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,239
you're talking, about And i'm vaguely, remember BUT i don't

1573
01:20:15,239 --> 01:20:17,560
even remember that getting up on the website or any of. That.

1574
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,039
Ship that's that's kind of bad because you wouldn't want

1575
01:20:20,039 --> 01:20:23,560
to expose somebody that. Way that's like your, boy you're

1576
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,359
opening yourself up to a. Lawsuit BUT i felt bad

1577
01:20:26,399 --> 01:20:28,800
for the old guy BECAUSE i remember seeing this really

1578
01:20:29,159 --> 01:20:32,680
like he just looked like a happy, grandpa well, dressed

1579
01:20:33,239 --> 01:20:37,000
looked like he had, money had a nice. Car he is,

1580
01:20:37,159 --> 01:20:41,600
retired probably living living his best life once in a

1581
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:45,960
while getting his ball streamed in the. Woods that's ALL

1582
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,840
i was. Saying it's happened from maple zyrum to use.

1583
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,520
It But i'm, like oh, Man SO i felt bad

1584
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,920
BECAUSE i AS i looked at, it AND i and

1585
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,960
you know, ME I i JUST i think things, sometimes

1586
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,079
MAYBE i think differently than other. People BUT i thought about.

1587
01:21:03,079 --> 01:21:06,920
IT i, go, boy this poor guy could never be

1588
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:13,119
truly who he is because it was not accepted by.

1589
01:21:13,159 --> 01:21:16,880
Society so you went with the societal. Norms you got,

1590
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,199
Married you stayed and stayed and stayed until you get

1591
01:21:20,199 --> 01:21:21,920
to a point in your life where you, go who

1592
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,399
gives a fuck? ANYMORE i gotta be, ME i GOTTA

1593
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:28,359
i gotta live my. Life and yet now there's a

1594
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,399
wife and you, know and a forty year marriage and

1595
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,760
careers and kids and colleges and family memories and all

1596
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:38,920
this shit that you you're playing with. Kerosene. Motherfucker in my,

1597
01:21:39,039 --> 01:21:42,399
mind you, know in your parents and that would be

1598
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,199
something that could really destroy and you could bring something.

1599
01:21:46,239 --> 01:21:49,399
Home yeah, right bring a disease. Home and you don't

1600
01:21:49,399 --> 01:21:51,520
want to do that. Either, anyway that's all the stuff we.

1601
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:56,279
Did let's bring these bits. Back. WELL i think that

1602
01:21:56,359 --> 01:21:58,439
what you're doing at the courthouse was. Fun it. WAS

1603
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,880
i thought those were. Funny it was because you would

1604
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:04,439
ask a bunch of random questions like you know how

1605
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,960
many what's heavier pound of bricks a pound of? Wood,

1606
01:22:07,079 --> 01:22:09,439
yeah all these silly little. Things and then the last

1607
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:11,880
thing would be what you're doing at the courthouse and

1608
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,239
we'd have to guess were they there to support somebody

1609
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:17,039
who was in? Court were they there to answer a?

1610
01:22:17,159 --> 01:22:19,239
Charge and what was the third? Thing so we always

1611
01:22:19,279 --> 01:22:19,439
had a.

1612
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 2: Third child support was always child aliphon he was always

1613
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,439
a big. One or custody that was always.

1614
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,560
Speaker 1: Something oh got. It you would get some of the

1615
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:28,000
most oh.

1616
01:22:28,039 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: Gosh and then and then the other game they like

1617
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,680
was child. Support price is? Right the best was with like.

1618
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,119
Speaker 1: Oh child oh, god there was a fucking. Fight, yeah

1619
01:22:36,159 --> 01:22:37,560
remember the guys sort fights all the.

1620
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,560
Speaker 2: Time because WHAT i would do IS i WOULD i

1621
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,760
would manipulate the. GAME i go, okay say you got

1622
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:44,560
it like the first guy who called.

1623
01:22:45,079 --> 01:22:48,119
Speaker 1: Would all, right this is my dumb, idea and it, was,

1624
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,199
yes so if you're paying child, support, right and so

1625
01:22:52,239 --> 01:22:53,840
we would give you a. Price if you were willing

1626
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:55,800
to do, This you come, on and you have to

1627
01:22:55,840 --> 01:23:00,399
tell us how much you're, paying either, monthly, week bi

1628
01:23:00,399 --> 01:23:03,880
weekly or? Monthly, right how much you? Pay and then

1629
01:23:04,199 --> 01:23:06,800
what do we have to? Do they did give us the, no, no, no,

1630
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:11,079
no THAT'S i got it. Wrong, yes you had to

1631
01:23:11,079 --> 01:23:14,960
tell us when you, paid, weekly bi weekly or, monthly,

1632
01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:17,399
right how many kids you, had and how long you

1633
01:23:17,399 --> 01:23:20,359
were married for and what your job. Is, yes and

1634
01:23:20,399 --> 01:23:24,760
then out of that we would we would guess how

1635
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,720
much you're. Paying listeners would guess how much you think

1636
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,359
without going, over without going? Closer what was?

1637
01:23:31,399 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 2: This so we give the first guy the tickets because

1638
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,000
he was the, subject and then the other three had

1639
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:37,720
to battle it out like it was the price is.

1640
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,319
Right so the two, guys the one whoever, won would be.

1641
01:23:41,399 --> 01:23:43,880
Happy the guy who was on first would be. Happy

1642
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:45,680
the other two guys would be swearing at each. Other

1643
01:23:46,039 --> 01:23:48,079
go come, on that's, bullcrip because you know What i'd

1644
01:23:48,079 --> 01:23:51,199
pay it, Right AND i got six. Kids and you know,

1645
01:23:51,279 --> 01:23:53,199
what that's BULL i, MEAN i had to KEEP i

1646
01:23:53,199 --> 01:23:55,119
had to hit the dump button so many times because

1647
01:23:55,159 --> 01:23:56,600
these guys would be like m f at each.

1648
01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:01,319
Speaker 1: Other Oh, GOD i forgot about this because we brought.

1649
01:24:01,319 --> 01:24:03,319
Speaker 2: It we brought their res attention that morning show boot.

1650
01:24:03,319 --> 01:24:04,840
Camp we, said, hey we took it up to another.

1651
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,680
Level you leave everybody out on the line and they

1652
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:08,720
all start swearing at each.

1653
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:15,239
Speaker 1: Other we did some interesting things back. Then, yeah that's interesting.

1654
01:24:15,279 --> 01:24:17,840
Things all, Right, well, UH i got one more for.

1655
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,000
You all, right we'll take a. BREAK i GOT i got.

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01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:27,600
ONE i this is a it's a it's a. Dilemma

1657
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,840
it's A maral. Dilemma this is really A maral. Dilemma

1658
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,680
and AND i am pulling it out of a current.

1659
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:42,159
Situation But I'm i'm curious as to how you would

1660
01:24:42,199 --> 01:24:46,600
see this versus How i'm not even sure HOW i see.

1661
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,680
It i'm not SURE i understand, it But i'm not

1662
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:55,560
sure THAT i can actually wrap my endorsement around. It so,

1663
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,680
okay all, right we'll get to that right after. This,

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Speaker 6: Com go, ahead what was the show that, like uh

1689
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said that we're doing bits from twenty years?

1690
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,399
Speaker 1: Ago i'm not telling, You, Okay i'm not telling. Me

1691
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:27,039
it doesn't. Matter, well why why why is this eating

1692
01:26:27,079 --> 01:26:29,319
at your? Brain i'm just? Curious why is it eating

1693
01:26:29,319 --> 01:26:31,800
at your? Brain i'm just. Curious, funny it's fucking. Funny,

1694
01:26:32,399 --> 01:26:34,560
Yeah i'll tell y'all off. Air and it's not who

1695
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:38,840
you think it. Is this is Sax. Squatch we had

1696
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,960
somebody in the studio earlier this week who saw Sax.

1697
01:26:43,319 --> 01:26:46,720
Squatch guy just put on a cost and went out

1698
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:48,600
in the whist start of the pandemic and started playing

1699
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:53,000
songs with packing. Tracks now he's. Selling he's selling out small.

1700
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,960
Clubs it's like fucking, outrageous.

1701
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,359
Speaker 2: Brilliant It sometimes the, smallest the superst ideas are the

1702
01:26:58,399 --> 01:26:59,159
best ideas on.

1703
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: Er why is this bothering you so? Much? Curious, no

1704
01:27:03,199 --> 01:27:05,039
it's bogging you BECAUSE i can tell what it. Is,

1705
01:27:05,119 --> 01:27:06,319
oh it's not. Bugging i'm.

1706
01:27:06,359 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 3: Curious who's the show who's The because IF i say,

1707
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:14,199
something IF i, LIKE i could throw out any random,

1708
01:27:14,279 --> 01:27:16,640
name And i'm thinking That.

1709
01:27:18,239 --> 01:27:21,520
Speaker 1: I'll be ninety percent accurate if you, go oh, yeah those,

1710
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,439
guys that's What i'm.

1711
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,520
Speaker 2: Sinking, YEAH i would BECAUSE i, KNOW i, know and

1712
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,520
there was no show that, touchdowns all.

1713
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,520
Speaker 1: Right AND i don't say that to be. ARROGANT i

1714
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,439
say that because it's the. Truth all.

1715
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:38,119
Speaker 2: RIGHT i still have people coming up to be telling me, today, yeah.

1716
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 1: How much they missed that. Show it was a great.

1717
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:43,640
Show it. Was it was a really good, show and

1718
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,000
it's it's a wonderful thing to have had, that and

1719
01:27:46,039 --> 01:27:48,439
it's wonderful for people to recognize. THAT i think that's really.

1720
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,920
Awesome BUT i think it's fun to do this once a.

1721
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,640
Month i'm like really excited about. IT i really. Am but,

1722
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:58,119
look if you can't tell ME i really want to

1723
01:27:58,119 --> 01:28:00,119
go to the, courthouse well that's What i'm, Saying, like

1724
01:28:00,119 --> 01:28:01,600
if you can't get to the Christ Vice president of

1725
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:07,640
The United States Bill, clinton now there is going to

1726
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,000
be a piece of me now THAT i As i'm

1727
01:28:10,039 --> 01:28:12,520
older and STUFF i. GO i don't want people to

1728
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:16,119
think like we're mocking the ignorance of, people AND i

1729
01:28:16,159 --> 01:28:18,920
guess we are in a. Way all we're doing is

1730
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:19,359
sticking a.

1731
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 2: Mic it's it's, like there's a viral video going around

1732
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,520
about the education Of. America somebody went down a spring

1733
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,439
break because spring break has been going on this past

1734
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:30,239
week and next, week, okay and they're interviewing women who

1735
01:28:30,239 --> 01:28:35,279
are in, college asking them, basic basic questions and they

1736
01:28:35,359 --> 01:28:39,840
can't answer them. Properly they're basic Governmental like this is

1737
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,279
like ten o'clock in the. Morning they're on a.

1738
01:28:41,319 --> 01:28:46,239
Speaker 1: Beach did you ever hear of a? Hangover they're like giglin.

1739
01:28:46,359 --> 01:28:48,159
Speaker 2: Laughing if you're, hungover, man you're not out of the.

1740
01:28:48,159 --> 01:28:51,560
Speaker 1: Beach girl? Break can you give a pretty girl? Break it's, Bad,

1741
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:52,199
billy it's.

1742
01:28:52,279 --> 01:28:57,359
Speaker 2: Bad so, like, look if you can't answer some basic, questions.

1743
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: It kind of just you, know we never really used.

1744
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,319
Speaker 2: It remember they made it like hand him like disclosure.

1745
01:29:01,319 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 1: Sheets they had a, Sign.

1746
01:29:04,359 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah we're not gonna use your, name but could you

1747
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,560
sign this, place which was so.

1748
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,520
Speaker 1: Stupid oh, well they were covered of the. DRAFT i.

1749
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:16,359
Don't it was an interesting time because people were getting

1750
01:29:16,359 --> 01:29:18,920
tagged for different. Stuff you, know there were things that

1751
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:24,800
were once deemed okay and then double On tandra to

1752
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,119
talk about a blowjob or sex or some kind of

1753
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,439
insertion which is banned by THE fcc to talk about

1754
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:37,199
on radio unlessons for educational or. Purposes, RIGHT i think

1755
01:29:37,319 --> 01:29:40,319
like you could get a Doctor ruth to do something

1756
01:29:40,359 --> 01:29:44,000
because it was more clinical or. Doctor what was the Show? Drew,

1757
01:29:44,119 --> 01:29:46,760
Yeah drew did the uh what was the name of that?

1758
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,680
Show it was a late night, show lone yea Love, life,

1759
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,840
right so they got it they could get away with.

1760
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,840
It and then ALSO i Think loveline was on during

1761
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,760
what's called what was the Blue, zone which was after ten.

1762
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,199
Pm i'm pretty sure you could Almost.

1763
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,359
Speaker 2: Yeah between ten and, six you could get away with saying.

1764
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 1: YEAH i think it was five.

1765
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,399
Speaker 2: Six you want to know why WHEN i work With

1766
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:10,000
beth And chet they were on at five and he

1767
01:30:10,039 --> 01:30:12,079
goes And check, goes, Hey, beth we could swear until six.

1768
01:30:12,119 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 1: O'clock oh, okay Because i's a.

1769
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 2: Joke he wouldn't do, That Check walker And Beth adams

1770
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:16,359
would never do.

1771
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,399
Speaker 1: That but that was that was a. JOKE i really

1772
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:22,079
thought it was ten of. Five well, whatever BUT i

1773
01:30:22,159 --> 01:30:24,560
like this and don't let, that don't let that this

1774
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:24,720
is a.

1775
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:26,560
Speaker 2: Bother i'm just curious of who it, is BECAUSE i

1776
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,680
would love to make fun of their. Shows i'm pretty

1777
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,520
sure there's only so many there's always so many pins

1778
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:32,399
left standing from our.

1779
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:35,359
Speaker 1: Era so that's Why i'm kind of, like, well this

1780
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:39,720
pin isn't exactly standing this this this. Pin if we're

1781
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:41,800
going to refer to the person as a, pin it's.

1782
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,920
Wobbled it's wobbled a. Lot, oh it's. Wobbled it's not

1783
01:30:45,079 --> 01:30:46,840
it's not who you think it. Is, OKAY i don't

1784
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:51,159
think you even know this person on a personal. Level, Okay,

1785
01:30:51,399 --> 01:30:53,079
Yeah ord just got back to me AND i was, like,

1786
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,960
okay now he still did it for a, while and

1787
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,760
THEN i was, like, yeah maybe, RIGHT i just slowed.

1788
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:01,680
DOWN i don't. KNOW i want to bring it. Back.

1789
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,439
Though they're. FUN i like. FUN i love, FUN i

1790
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:07,359
love having. FUN i love all this. Stuff but here's

1791
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:13,680
kind of a serious. Thing h end of life and the.

1792
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:19,039
Life you've got a loved one and they are just.

1793
01:31:19,159 --> 01:31:23,960
Miserable their body's deteriorating and, deteriorating and they say to, You, danny,

1794
01:31:24,079 --> 01:31:27,640
yeah pull the plug or in any way that you

1795
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:32,039
can get me someone who can just let me drift

1796
01:31:32,119 --> 01:31:34,520
off and be. Gone, oh my father was like begging for. It,

1797
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:36,399
yeah AND i think a lot of times too yet

1798
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,880
enough morphine to choke everybody in the, room, Right so

1799
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:40,960
and a lot of times still up to morphine just

1800
01:31:41,039 --> 01:31:43,319
to give you a. Pieceful he was still, going, yeah,

1801
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,239
right so that's what here's the oxy cotton will do to,

1802
01:31:47,319 --> 01:31:50,039
you by the, way you build up a. Tolerance.

1803
01:31:50,119 --> 01:31:52,159
Speaker 2: Yeah my, father, well he had a surgery in ninety

1804
01:31:52,279 --> 01:31:55,319
nine or two thousand and, four like he's rotator cuff

1805
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:58,840
and they, go, heir try these pain pills and he

1806
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:00,399
just kept taking them for a. Year we had no

1807
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,800
idea the, effect none of. Us we thought they were pain.

1808
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,960
Pills we didn't know what oxyconton. Was nobody did, right,

1809
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:08,720
right it was hill billy, heroin and.

1810
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:12,199
Speaker 1: He was hilly. Heroin it is so. True so but

1811
01:32:12,359 --> 01:32:15,600
would you be you be okay with someone realizing like

1812
01:32:16,039 --> 01:32:18,600
they're never going to be the person they. Were this

1813
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,800
is and And i'm saying, That i'm asking this because

1814
01:32:22,279 --> 01:32:25,600
you have a strong, faith very very strong, faith and

1815
01:32:26,039 --> 01:32:29,039
you're a very you're very devote to, that, right you're

1816
01:32:29,079 --> 01:32:31,399
devoted to. That, YES i shouldn't say, devote you're. DEVOTED

1817
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:35,199
i Trust. Christ, Yes so all things in. Time but if,

1818
01:32:35,239 --> 01:32:37,199
that if you're watching, THIS i, mean would you be

1819
01:32:37,319 --> 01:32:39,439
okay in a way if someone SAID i need to

1820
01:32:40,279 --> 01:32:44,119
it's so, PAINFUL i. Can't i'll give you an. EXAMPLE i.

1821
01:32:44,199 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 2: WOULD i would pray for a quick. EXIT i would

1822
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,479
have a tough. Time now here's the. Thing if there

1823
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,880
was a D nr situation right WHERE i do not

1824
01:32:51,039 --> 01:32:53,640
resuscitate is. Different, yeah that's like if you go, under

1825
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,479
don't try to like pound on my chest to bring me. Back, Right,

1826
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,720
okay that's not a suicide. Situation that is like that

1827
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:01,680
is just you, know letting the Body.

1828
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 1: Dan can you say unlive? Themselves, yeah that's a big. Thing. Now,

1829
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:10,560
well because you can't say suicide on social, media they flag. It,

1830
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:14,159
YEAH i. Know so the people say unlive. Themselves it's

1831
01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:15,239
just sounds so weird.

1832
01:33:18,039 --> 01:33:24,079
Speaker 2: Alive but as far as like actually like speeding the,

1833
01:33:24,159 --> 01:33:26,039
Process i'd have a tough time doing.

1834
01:33:26,159 --> 01:33:29,279
Speaker 1: That in, FACT i. Wouldn't, Okay, OKAY i go to

1835
01:33:29,319 --> 01:33:32,359
my Sister. Steph your. Turn Well i'll give you an

1836
01:33:32,399 --> 01:33:36,600
example of somebody THAT i have heard people talk about

1837
01:33:37,279 --> 01:33:41,520
as though it were an unliving themselves, situation AND i.

1838
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:45,279
DISAGREE i think that this person could just see long

1839
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:49,000
term what was going to, happen and that Is Robin,

1840
01:33:49,039 --> 01:33:53,199
williams and he Had louis body, disease which is, awful

1841
01:33:53,399 --> 01:33:56,800
and Or louis body, Dementia louis body, dementia WHICH i

1842
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:58,960
think your whole body. Forgets it's like it's Like.

1843
01:33:59,039 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 2: Alzheimer's Accept alzheimer's will kill you a lot quicker Than

1844
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:06,159
louis body. Davenia right, NOW i, believe oh, Gosh Ched

1845
01:34:06,199 --> 01:34:09,439
turner has it right, now. Okay And sophia from The Golden,

1846
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,520
girls remember, her the Old. Lady, yeah she died of.

1847
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,159
That they went to visit her before a year before she.

1848
01:34:14,279 --> 01:34:15,960
Died she didn't remember who any of them were and

1849
01:34:16,159 --> 01:34:17,399
still lingered another.

1850
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 1: Right AND i don't think That, robin who was probably

1851
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:25,079
one of the most prolific charismats that you have ever,

1852
01:34:25,199 --> 01:34:27,199
seen and when he was on cocaine it was even,

1853
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:31,840
wilder you. Know And Bobby, slayton WHO i just showed

1854
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,319
my son a bit Of bobby's THAT i think COULD

1855
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,520
i Texted, BOBBY i, GO i just found a piece

1856
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,520
of you on YouTube from twenty five years. Ago AND

1857
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,319
i think this shit still holds. Up it's like so

1858
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:43,680
relatable and Even jamison was, laughing and it was certainly

1859
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:45,479
not aimed to. Him it was more about married couples

1860
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,239
and blah blah blah. Blah but it was his whole.

1861
01:34:47,279 --> 01:34:49,119
Style and he would say to you all the time

1862
01:34:49,159 --> 01:34:52,680
that there was something About, robin Because robin was accused

1863
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,399
of ripping off other, comics and he, goes he didn't

1864
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:57,760
like write down in your. Joke he just absorbed so

1865
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,840
much stuff that when he, started he would just be

1866
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:04,039
spitballing and he, GOES i REMEMBER i was doing AN

1867
01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:07,800
hbo special AND i, Go, robin don't do this. Joke or,

1868
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,279
no Maybe robin was doing it and he did the

1869
01:35:10,359 --> 01:35:14,079
joke on AN hbo special and he's like he just he.

1870
01:35:14,159 --> 01:35:16,079
Goes you couldn't even really get mad at, him but people.

1871
01:35:16,119 --> 01:35:18,960
Were but my point with this is that he was

1872
01:35:19,039 --> 01:35:21,920
going downhill and it's an awful way to. Go AND

1873
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,359
i don't think that you want to be remembered that.

1874
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,399
WAY i would also think. This you don't want to

1875
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,479
be a burden to. Somebody you don't want to have

1876
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,920
somebody wiping your, ass you. KNOW i, mean there is

1877
01:35:34,359 --> 01:35:37,000
the letting go when when people say you have to

1878
01:35:37,119 --> 01:35:40,239
let go let go of. Things let. Go you're literally,

1879
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:44,279
letting literally letting go of everything in your life as

1880
01:35:44,319 --> 01:35:47,199
you approach the. End your ability to get to the,

1881
01:35:47,239 --> 01:35:50,039
bathroom your ability to shower. Yourself you're gonna have somebody.

1882
01:35:50,079 --> 01:35:52,439
Else sometimes it's a stranger that's going to be showering.

1883
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:55,640
You you got to let that. Off that's real, pride

1884
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:58,720
that's real. Humiliation AND i think for some people that it's, like,

1885
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:02,479
No i'm not doing that, right so you unlive. Yourself,

1886
01:36:03,039 --> 01:36:10,399
well here's the situation where it's, different the results the.

1887
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:16,479
SAME i think they don't know, exactly but there is

1888
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:20,880
a guy who was a football coach in a small

1889
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:28,640
TOWN i believe in The, south and he was accused

1890
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:34,039
OF i don't know that he ever had physical, contact

1891
01:36:35,119 --> 01:36:37,840
But i'm pretty sure he sent text of his junk

1892
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,960
to a sixteen year old at the school and it

1893
01:36:42,079 --> 01:36:48,199
was being talked about around the library table and somebody overheard,

1894
01:36:48,239 --> 01:36:52,399
it and SO i don't know how if they got

1895
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:53,600
a hold of. IT i don't know if there was

1896
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:58,600
proof of. This, so, yeah the headline is, missing excuse,

1897
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:02,439
me it Was virginia sends The south Missing virginia football

1898
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:07,359
Coach Travis turner allegedly sexted explicit photos to a sixteen

1899
01:37:07,399 --> 01:37:14,039
year old. Girl he's forty, six married father of, three

1900
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:21,760
and allegedly sent the, DISTURBING x rated messages over a

1901
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:25,720
three month. Stretch he was the head coach at a high.

1902
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:33,560
School first came the, accusation then police became. Involved, okay

1903
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:41,319
he has been missing Since november of twenty twenty. Five. Missing.

1904
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:46,119
Okay last scene walking into the woods with a. Gun

1905
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,159
you think he became the.

1906
01:37:51,279 --> 01:37:55,640
Speaker 2: Sasquatch, Nopeophone, okay that's why he went to a gorilla

1907
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:56,520
costuo started playing the.

1908
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 1: Sacks, nope, okay, nope.

1909
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,319
Speaker 2: You think he he probably alive to.

1910
01:38:01,399 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 1: Himself that's What i'm. Thinking that's What i'm. Thinking that

1911
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,920
makes the most. Sense but hang, On, however according to this,

1912
01:38:07,119 --> 01:38:13,119
article that the day he did, that the police were

1913
01:38:13,319 --> 01:38:16,760
on their way to his. HOUSE i believe to arrest.

1914
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:23,399
Speaker 7: Them i'm pretty sure that the WAY i read the,

1915
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:27,560
article it said that. Disappeared, okay the.

1916
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,720
Speaker 1: Forty six my father have vanished late late last year

1917
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:33,840
as they were on the way to grill him over

1918
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:40,119
child porn and exploitation. Accusations that so they were Allegedly

1919
01:38:40,279 --> 01:38:44,079
that makes it sound like he knew they were, coming

1920
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:46,279
and they were on their way, now and he just

1921
01:38:46,359 --> 01:38:49,920
went into the. Woods how would he know they were.

1922
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:54,039
Coming they usually don't call for an. Invite, yeah somebody

1923
01:38:54,079 --> 01:38:59,000
tip them off. Inside so here's here's here's my. Question

1924
01:39:01,159 --> 01:39:04,840
if you are in this, situation AND i would never

1925
01:39:05,279 --> 01:39:08,439
endorse on a live in, YOURSELF i would, think well,

1926
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:10,720
ME i GUESS i just did by saying if you're

1927
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:13,760
at the very. End but if you're an able, bodied

1928
01:39:14,399 --> 01:39:17,520
a forty something year old father of three kids who's

1929
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:24,039
the esteemed high school football, COACH i wouldn't encourage you

1930
01:39:24,079 --> 01:39:27,880
to go on alive. Yourself, however this is an accusation

1931
01:39:28,119 --> 01:39:32,479
that could absolutely have you lose everything in your. Life

1932
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:34,319
and WHEN i say, EVERYTHING i mean your kids may

1933
01:39:34,399 --> 01:39:37,720
never talk to you. Again, right there's a. Chance, yeah,

1934
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:39,720
definitely your, Wife you're gonna wind up going through a.

1935
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:42,239
Divorce everybody's gonna find out about it because it's a small,

1936
01:39:42,279 --> 01:39:45,399
town your, parents everybody's, there and you're just in that,

1937
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,159
moment the police are on their way and you go

1938
01:39:48,319 --> 01:39:50,920
into the, woods And i'm, thinking like you, said he

1939
01:39:51,039 --> 01:39:54,399
was tipped. Off but it wouldn't surprise me if there

1940
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:58,159
was somebody who just really liked this. Guy another like

1941
01:39:58,199 --> 01:39:59,439
a police. Officer that's a small.

1942
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:02,119
Speaker 2: Town one of the police officers may have been someone

1943
01:40:02,159 --> 01:40:02,640
who grew up with.

1944
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 1: Him oh it could, be or it could also be

1945
01:40:05,079 --> 01:40:07,720
somebody on his coaching staff call him up and, go, hey,

1946
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,640
MAN i just want to let you know they're on the.

1947
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:13,600
Way and what if he said to this guy because he,

1948
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,880
vanished it's impossible to. Vanish how far could he have? Gone,

1949
01:40:18,199 --> 01:40:20,600
well it's impossible to just. VANISH i, mean it'd be

1950
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,279
nice if this guy, was you, know down trying to

1951
01:40:23,319 --> 01:40:25,279
get some sixteen year old tail In brazil or. Something right,

1952
01:40:25,319 --> 01:40:28,680
Now well look at, That but, NO i don't think

1953
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,720
that it was last seeing with the, gun and no one.

1954
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:36,680
Knows So i'm wondering if he said to the police, Officer, hey,

1955
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:41,319
Listen i'm going up to the tree stand in the,

1956
01:40:41,399 --> 01:40:46,319
woods he, goes And i'm gonna unlive. Myself they're gonna

1957
01:40:46,319 --> 01:40:48,239
be looking on the. Ground they're not going to find.

1958
01:40:48,279 --> 01:40:53,640
Me come get my, Body come get. Me EVENTUALLY i

1959
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,960
would find. Me they haven't so unless it was so,

1960
01:40:58,199 --> 01:41:02,640
cold but It's, virginia they haven't had you know WHAT i. Mean, yeah,

1961
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:07,560
right so you come get me and just just get

1962
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:09,680
rid of. Me just get rid of. ME i want to.

1963
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:15,880
Disappear i'm leaving the. Planet would you do? It? No, See,

1964
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:18,399
NO i THINK i. MIGHT i might. Go, YEAH i get,

1965
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:20,680
IT i get. It this is a tough one to deal.

1966
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:24,279
With you would lose. Everything it would be. Hard could lose.

1967
01:41:24,319 --> 01:41:29,600
Speaker 2: Everything, No, dan the odds are you. Would but it's

1968
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:30,800
not what a hundred you.

1969
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 1: Need if your name smeared to the, mud your kid's

1970
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,720
getting teased at, school all this, shit it's not like

1971
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,199
they're not going to if you're. Gone, well, no you

1972
01:41:38,279 --> 01:41:41,319
might get a little. Sympathy you might GET i, know

1973
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:44,279
your dad, Disappeared LIKE i know this, stuff BUT i

1974
01:41:44,359 --> 01:41:46,560
don't believe it, happened you know What i'm. Saying, yeah

1975
01:41:47,199 --> 01:41:49,840
if there's a trial and there's, proof all of a,

1976
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:53,000
sudden it's kind of puts a whole. Thing. Now the

1977
01:41:53,079 --> 01:41:57,039
bad part is that allegedly the parents of the, girl

1978
01:41:57,159 --> 01:42:00,319
the family are saying this was going on and the

1979
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:03,760
school pushed it off so they could get through the.

1980
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:08,560
Playoffs that's that's that's totally, yeah that makes total. Sense

1981
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:09,359
The Southern.

1982
01:42:09,359 --> 01:42:11,560
Speaker 2: School, yes, YES i think they're going to put this

1983
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,279
off until we, lose they said something, like.

1984
01:42:16,079 --> 01:42:18,359
Speaker 1: WELL i, mean, dude that's what happened At. Michigan yes

1985
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:22,359
With Corona. Moore, yeah can just get through the.

1986
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 2: Season because as soon as they lost To Ohio, state

1987
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:31,439
all of a, sudden Prominent michigan alumni in, media we're getting, Texts, oh,

1988
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:32,880
yeah this is this is going to get.

1989
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:36,079
Speaker 1: Ugly, yeah but like what they're, like what are you talking? About? Now,

1990
01:42:36,319 --> 01:42:39,560
look there are people that are are called. Maps do

1991
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:40,279
you know what a map?

1992
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 2: Is?

1993
01:42:42,319 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 1: Yeah you? Do what is?

1994
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 2: It they're called minor attracted.

1995
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:51,079
Speaker 1: Persons right, NOW i have Said i'm not sure that

1996
01:42:51,199 --> 01:42:53,880
this guy was a minor attracted, person and and just

1997
01:42:54,159 --> 01:42:56,840
on on the. DEFENSE a lot of times it doesn't

1998
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,399
say he worked at the, school doesn't say. That but

1999
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:03,079
many it's like a teacher who also picks up some.

2000
01:43:03,199 --> 01:43:06,680
COACHING a lot of times in, football it's the gym, guy,

2001
01:43:07,039 --> 01:43:10,800
right the gym. Teacher, NOW i remember a high school

2002
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:12,920
gym teacher saying to, me AND i was an, adult

2003
01:43:13,279 --> 01:43:15,439
that he's, like you gotta be really careful he, goes

2004
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,000
because like if you're sitting at the edge of the

2005
01:43:18,079 --> 01:43:22,039
bleachers and you, know you're just checking off the attendance

2006
01:43:22,039 --> 01:43:24,399
while the kids go through a stretching. Container some of

2007
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,000
the girls will come over and he, goes they actually

2008
01:43:27,119 --> 01:43:30,039
like put their breast like on your on your, shoulder

2009
01:43:30,119 --> 01:43:32,399
on your shoulder and press, in and he, Goes you've

2010
01:43:32,399 --> 01:43:34,920
got to be really. Careful but you can see where

2011
01:43:35,159 --> 01:43:38,359
some guys we're, like, god, damn, baby you're. Good you

2012
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:41,840
know WHAT i. Mean that's it's. Terrible it's. TERRIBLE i.

2013
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:43,680
Know i'm not trying to endorse. This i'm just saying.

2014
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:46,880
That he even said you got to like really mind

2015
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:48,920
your p's and q's and go back. Up you have

2016
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:50,640
to back. Up but he's, like you never want to

2017
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:55,319
like put yourself in a situation where you were almost

2018
01:43:55,439 --> 01:44:01,279
brought into something where you accidentally brushed, again reduced.

2019
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,239
Speaker 2: The risk class all those things you have To, yeah

2020
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:07,479
teach you about personal, space crazy, stuff, Right so never

2021
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,039
be alone with the, kid so they never give them

2022
01:44:10,079 --> 01:44:10,399
a ride.

2023
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:13,680
Speaker 1: Home my point in saying this is he may not

2024
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:15,960
have been a minor attracted. PERSON a lot of times

2025
01:44:16,039 --> 01:44:19,199
minor attracted people are are attracted. To there there was

2026
01:44:20,399 --> 01:44:24,239
allegedly WHAT i, mean like a. Pedophile well that's me

2027
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,840
you have to. Be you can be a minor attracted

2028
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,840
person and never act on. It, OKAY i see, You

2029
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:35,399
so that wouldn't be a, pedophile that's All i'm. Saying, Okay,

2030
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:38,319
WELL i guarantee that you AND i know people we

2031
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:43,920
don't know, it but they're minor attracted. Persons, weird but

2032
01:44:44,039 --> 01:44:46,439
they've never done yet whether they we wouldn't won't do? It,

2033
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:51,239
yeah right now there. Are there was a thing called THE,

2034
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:56,359
nambla The National association Of Man Boy. Love.

2035
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 2: YEAH i thought that was fake With South park did

2036
01:44:58,960 --> 01:44:59,760
an episode about.

2037
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:02,039
Speaker 1: That oh, no it was. Real, YEAH i, KNOW i, know,

2038
01:45:02,359 --> 01:45:07,039
Yeah and they're, saying was this is? Disgusting all? Right

2039
01:45:07,239 --> 01:45:10,840
SHOULD i say sex before eight before it's too? Late

2040
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:14,560
and they don't mean the, time, Right, Okay so that

2041
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:17,560
was that was their. Thing AND i remember my dad

2042
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:22,039
when he was working with the. Center he was, yeah,

2043
01:45:23,159 --> 01:45:25,800
yes but it was not the national, one but. Okay

2044
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:28,800
and their purpose was to work with the family and

2045
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:31,399
the kids that were left. Behind his friend was a

2046
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:34,000
therapist or a social, worker a licensed social, worker and

2047
01:45:34,039 --> 01:45:36,279
he wanted to work with the kids and the family

2048
01:45:36,319 --> 01:45:38,319
that was left behind because all mom and dad's attention

2049
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:41,079
go on the missing child and what happens in the,

2050
01:45:41,159 --> 01:45:45,279
home and then what happens when the kid comes. Back

2051
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:50,079
and it Was Stephen stainer who at fifteen When Timothy

2052
01:45:50,119 --> 01:45:53,399
white was abducted by the same guy And stephen was

2053
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:57,359
no longer the. Interest stephen turned them. In he had

2054
01:45:57,399 --> 01:45:59,439
seen himself on milk carts and, everything but the guy

2055
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:02,960
had brainwashed him and bottom gifts and treated them well

2056
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:07,279
other THAN i don't, Know friday, night date. NIGHT i

2057
01:46:07,319 --> 01:46:10,000
don't know what it was, called but you understand What i'm, saying,

2058
01:46:10,119 --> 01:46:12,439
right not to make light of. That but so Then

2059
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:14,840
stephen comes home and it's like the family only remembers

2060
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:16,399
the seven or eight year old boy that, left so

2061
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:17,920
they start treating him like, that and it was a

2062
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:21,039
really difficult thing for. Them and THEN i know they

2063
01:46:21,079 --> 01:46:22,880
were trying to study for a while And stephen wound

2064
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:26,000
up being killed in a motorcycle. Accident SO i don't

2065
01:46:26,279 --> 01:46:29,640
that kind OF i can't study that. Now but the

2066
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:34,479
minor attractive person stuff IS i have, said where if

2067
01:46:35,159 --> 01:46:38,399
we go with the argument that you are born this,

2068
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:44,000
way whatever, way that is, right If i'm somebody who's

2069
01:46:44,359 --> 01:46:48,319
attracted to the same, sex right many times there are

2070
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:54,119
certain religions and things that have said how. Bad that is?

2071
01:46:54,319 --> 01:46:57,000
Right how wrong that is my Grandmother my grandmother Was.

2072
01:46:57,159 --> 01:47:01,479
Catholic they did, that, Okay, oh and she was very

2073
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,399
very vocal about all that. Stuff, now let's say you're

2074
01:47:06,039 --> 01:47:08,600
a minor attractive, person but you're born that. Way if

2075
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,720
you're born to be attracted to the same sex or,

2076
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:14,840
whatever and you kind of can't control, that it's just

2077
01:47:15,079 --> 01:47:18,800
innate in. You could The maps thing be innate in,

2078
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:22,479
you but it's just so bad in society you would

2079
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:26,079
fucking ruin someone like you know What i'm. Saying so

2080
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:30,359
Here's i'm. NOT i don't find this. FUNNY i have

2081
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:36,359
suggested this many. Times we now HAVE, ai and we

2082
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:41,359
HAVE ai robots and. Things what if we gave the

2083
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:46,199
maps an eight year old version that looks like an Eight.

2084
01:47:46,159 --> 01:47:48,399
Speaker 2: Oh, Geez.

2085
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm, Asking AND i know this sounds, funny But i'm

2086
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:57,800
asking from a very ethical. Standpoint maybe they're brilliant contributors

2087
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:02,520
to society. Taxpayers are you straight? Neighbors keep their non

2088
01:48:03,239 --> 01:48:07,319
immaculate so? Wonderful and oh my, god have you had

2089
01:48:07,359 --> 01:48:11,119
their upside down pineapple cake At christmas? Time? Phenomenal i'm just,

2090
01:48:11,199 --> 01:48:12,079
saying never.

2091
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:13,840
Speaker 2: Want to give a?

2092
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:18,159
Speaker 1: Map, yes a. Robot, yes an eight year old. Robot

2093
01:48:18,239 --> 01:48:20,520
you got your don't, know not an eight year old

2094
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:24,399
robot looks like an eight year old. Human well that's, well,

2095
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,000
yeah will be a. Robot yeah it's not a real, person,

2096
01:48:27,319 --> 01:48:29,359
right it's a. Robot But i'm not saying you said

2097
01:48:29,359 --> 01:48:31,119
eight year old. ROBOT i not the.

2098
01:48:31,199 --> 01:48:33,239
Speaker 2: ROBOT i don't believe that would work BECAUSE i believe

2099
01:48:33,319 --> 01:48:35,199
that they, get, like like anything, else they would get

2100
01:48:35,199 --> 01:48:36,079
sick of that and then.

2101
01:48:36,039 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 1: Go for the real. Thing, OKAY i just.

2102
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 2: Wondering remember our first conversation about about addictions and stuff

2103
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:42,119
like that.

2104
01:48:42,279 --> 01:48:44,560
Speaker 1: Earlier, yeah that you can't, like like his alcohol is

2105
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:47,840
really a. Disease this map is really a, Disease? Billy

2106
01:48:48,239 --> 01:48:48,720
or is it a?

2107
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 2: Perversion? Yeah well they were born that. Way well then

2108
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,119
you got to be born. Again AND i know people

2109
01:48:54,119 --> 01:48:54,640
do want to hear.

2110
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:58,640
Speaker 1: That but, Hey i'm just. SAYING i, mean that was.

2111
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:00,760
It that was. All that was. All that's just my.

2112
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:02,399
Thought i've had that thought for a while BECAUSE i,

2113
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:07,920
GO i understand the logic behind, That thank. YOU i

2114
01:49:08,039 --> 01:49:08,359
thought so.

2115
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 2: Too people understand the logic behind, communism but it's a

2116
01:49:12,039 --> 01:49:13,159
terrible idea and it's been.

2117
01:49:13,239 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 1: TESTED i don't think this is a terrible. IDEA i

2118
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:19,000
think this is an idea, that with the world we

2119
01:49:19,119 --> 01:49:22,039
live in, today might actually be beneficial in some. FASHION

2120
01:49:22,199 --> 01:49:23,840
i don't. Know it's, like, hey let's give a heroin

2121
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:27,640
addict some heroin because a clean. Needle, yeah because you,

2122
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,279
KNOW i didn't say. THAT i know what you're. DOING

2123
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:31,000
i know what you're.

2124
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:32,520
Speaker 2: Saying it like apples to, apples.

2125
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 1: Or or if you get arrested as a, map do

2126
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:38,000
we just have a prison for the maps where we, Go,

2127
01:49:38,399 --> 01:49:40,079
hey you want to have some fun, Today what are

2128
01:49:40,079 --> 01:49:43,039
you doing two? O'clock meet me over at The so

2129
01:49:43,159 --> 01:49:45,039
it's so. Prison weren't going to let lose a bunch

2130
01:49:45,039 --> 01:49:48,279
of eight year old robots and see what. Happened oh

2131
01:49:49,319 --> 01:49:53,680
What i'm just, saying like in, theory in, theory just, Theory,

2132
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:56,119
damn that's ALL i. Mean it's like. This IF i

2133
01:49:56,159 --> 01:49:58,119
see a guy walking into the woods by himself with a,

2134
01:49:58,159 --> 01:50:02,359
Gun i'm not thinking he's going to meditate or he

2135
01:50:02,399 --> 01:50:07,039
could be. Hunting, yep, yep certainly the kind of going

2136
01:50:07,279 --> 01:50:10,680
not not a meditation, retreat but this. GUY i was just,

2137
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:17,039
wondering because shame is a brutal. Emotion it, is and

2138
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:23,079
this guy you would deny or whatever or, deflect but

2139
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:27,319
at some point the truth catches up with. You and

2140
01:50:29,119 --> 01:50:30,960
the worst part to me in all of this is

2141
01:50:31,039 --> 01:50:34,680
his kids are left without the proverbial. Closure i'm not

2142
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:37,239
sure if you really want. It you would always want

2143
01:50:37,279 --> 01:50:39,600
to be. Remembered AND i think that was kind of

2144
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:41,880
maybe if this guy did off, himself that it was

2145
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:46,800
the driving thought behind. HIM i don't want my kids

2146
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:47,199
to go through.

2147
01:50:47,279 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 2: THAT i remember WHEN Oj simpson was driving down the

2148
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:52,600
four h five with al colleagues Or Al collins was driving,

2149
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:54,920
him and he was riding and my father said. This he,

2150
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:57,720
goes this sounds. Awful i'm fourteen years old WATCHING oj

2151
01:50:58,399 --> 01:51:01,479
right and he got THE Nba finals in the small

2152
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:04,920
box and my father, goes it might be better off

2153
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:05,920
if he just did away with.

2154
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:09,520
Speaker 1: Himself, YEAH i, mean can you write to undertand.

2155
01:51:09,159 --> 01:51:12,640
Speaker 2: The logic it sounds on paper like it makes.

2156
01:51:13,079 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 1: Sense, Yes but OH j got free and didn't see that.

2157
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 2: COMING i wonder what life would have been like had

2158
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:21,640
he done.

2159
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:22,399
Speaker 1: THAT i.

2160
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:26,119
Speaker 2: WONDER i, mean clearly we wouldn't have never had the,

2161
01:51:26,159 --> 01:51:28,159
trial we would have never have had all the backlash

2162
01:51:28,239 --> 01:51:30,960
that went with the, trial, RIGHT i, mean then.

2163
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:36,399
Speaker 1: What happens to the family of The goldberg family in

2164
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:38,640
The Browns goldberg was THE tv show forgive, me but

2165
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:42,239
The goldman, family, right who just by like was not,

2166
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:46,079
targeted she was. Targeted he happened to be just be

2167
01:51:46,159 --> 01:51:49,199
there right, there you, know for whatever the thing. WAS

2168
01:51:49,279 --> 01:51:51,079
i don't even, think LIKE i think it was alleged

2169
01:51:51,119 --> 01:51:53,399
they were having an. AFFAIR i don't think there was

2170
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:56,920
any of. THAT i think he was just knew her

2171
01:51:57,199 --> 01:51:59,560
had become friendly in some way and was bringing back

2172
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:02,800
sunglass that she had. Left maybe maybe THEN i say

2173
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:04,000
it out, loud MAYBE i don't think.

2174
01:52:04,039 --> 01:52:06,359
Speaker 2: SO i think there was something going on. There BUT

2175
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:09,000
i mean because he was, very he was very somebody

2176
01:52:09,039 --> 01:52:11,960
said they were the most non divorced divorced couple you'd ever.

2177
01:52:12,079 --> 01:52:15,039
Meet but but there's a lot going on that. DAY

2178
01:52:15,079 --> 01:52:16,800
i remember that day, too everything that went on in

2179
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:18,920
my life that, day because it was such a monumental.

2180
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:22,600
Happening BUT i remember my father having that, conversation AND

2181
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:25,560
i think it's okay to talk about those things and

2182
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:27,880
bring them. UP i wish we would talk more about

2183
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,800
stuff like, That as uncomfortable as it, IS i wish

2184
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:32,960
we would exchange more ideas like, that to have the

2185
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,359
freedom to discuss these. Things that doesn't MEAN i agree with,

2186
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,960
them like that idea you just, had because that's how

2187
01:52:38,079 --> 01:52:41,479
we get to the bottom of better ideas instead of

2188
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:42,159
just keeping them to.

2189
01:52:42,199 --> 01:52:44,279
Speaker 1: Ourselves that's what you're.

2190
01:52:44,279 --> 01:52:47,600
Speaker 2: Saying, no, No i'm SAYING i could see the, logical you.

2191
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:49,359
Speaker 1: Know But i'm, saying LIKE i still like me so.

2192
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:51,279
Speaker 2: Serious, no, no, no but that's BUT i wish we

2193
01:52:51,319 --> 01:52:56,000
could have more nuanced discussions like. That but people don't

2194
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,560
want to have those. Conversations and and and my thing, was,

2195
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:01,359
honestly if we can have that conversation on the, RADIO

2196
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:02,039
i don't.

2197
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:04,560
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't that we just. Did i'm not. SURE

2198
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:06,800
i don't. KNOW i don't think about. THAT i don't even.

2199
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:08,640
Think we don't feel like that. Anymore i'm just, thinking,

2200
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:10,000
look you, know, no that's a good.

2201
01:53:10,039 --> 01:53:12,199
Speaker 2: Point we're talking earlier of all the stupid. Stuff we

2202
01:53:12,359 --> 01:53:14,800
not stupid fun. Stuff wed, yeah you, know, yes on the,

2203
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:16,880
radio on the, radio and it's, like but think about

2204
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:17,600
stuff you can't do.

2205
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:21,239
Speaker 1: Anymore, WELL i a good, POINT i would say. That

2206
01:53:22,039 --> 01:53:24,479
but my my thing that originally brought this up is

2207
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:28,399
if this football, coach AND i was a police officer

2208
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:31,560
who knew. Him MAYBE i would tip him off and

2209
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:33,840
MAYBE i would go get the body AND i WOULD

2210
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,000
i would literally have him, disappear and it would be

2211
01:53:36,079 --> 01:53:38,920
a struggle for me BECAUSE i think that there's no

2212
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:40,800
closure at this. Point, wow there's no.

2213
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 4: Closure i'm having a trial and all this stuff and

2214
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:44,960
having get wrapped up by now would do.

2215
01:53:45,119 --> 01:53:47,560
Speaker 2: Process, instead we got a situation where.

2216
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 1: Well it's, guilt, RIGHT i, mean shame and, guilt or

2217
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:53,399
maybe the guy just Wasn't who, Knows maybe he could

2218
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:55,279
have been in a bad state of mind at that

2219
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:58,520
moment and not not done, that and maybe that's not what.

2220
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:00,840
Happened maybe somebody met him the pack of the. Woods he,

2221
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:02,319
Goes i'm just going to bring a. Gun they're gonna

2222
01:54:02,319 --> 01:54:04,279
THINK i killed myself and get me out of. HERE

2223
01:54:04,399 --> 01:54:06,760
i have no. Idea uh, OH i, know was he?

2224
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:08,800
Disappeared AND i would think most likely he did he did.

2225
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 2: That but at this, point if you're the police department

2226
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:13,079
and somebody went in the, woods AND i mean then

2227
01:54:13,159 --> 01:54:16,239
you'd find, tracks you'd find, blood you'd find little clues

2228
01:54:16,279 --> 01:54:20,560
here and, there, Right so, well unless they just like

2229
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:23,520
go maybe the police department was all in on.

2230
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:26,239
Speaker 1: It they would come in to catch. You, yeah so

2231
01:54:26,399 --> 01:54:29,479
you may want to die on your. Shield yeah, right,

2232
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:32,880
YEAH i mean it's almost like you, KNOW i think

2233
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:36,079
there were was It japan where they would erry Carry, yeah,

2234
01:54:36,199 --> 01:54:39,520
Yeah Kama kazi, pops, Wow Kama kazi. Pilots but also

2235
01:54:40,399 --> 01:54:42,760
or was it even back In roman? Times they would

2236
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:45,720
throw themselves literally with the phrase.

2237
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 2: For Yourselves saul in The bible he threw himself on his,

2238
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:50,039
sword AND.

2239
01:54:50,359 --> 01:54:52,079
Speaker 1: I think it was very popular In roman.

2240
01:54:52,119 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 2: Times, yeah or like, well they talked about the end

2241
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:57,279
Of godfather too when spoiler, alert they're sitting there With

2242
01:54:57,319 --> 01:54:59,439
pantagial because of visits a Jail Tom hagen and we

2243
01:54:59,479 --> 01:55:01,319
talked about, yeah and he goes when a.

2244
01:55:01,359 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 1: When a, uh when a coup against the emperor. Failed what?

2245
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:08,159
Speaker 2: Happened oh, yeah they went, home they opened up their,

2246
01:55:08,239 --> 01:55:10,279
veins and often times they had a party before they did,

2247
01:55:10,319 --> 01:55:12,119
it and their families were taken care.

2248
01:55:12,159 --> 01:55:14,760
Speaker 1: Of this sounds like that could have been that kind of. Situation,

2249
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:19,119
YEAH i, COULD i. Could and and sad but interesting

2250
01:55:19,439 --> 01:55:26,479
nonetheless to, me like just the, behind, yes not the story, itself,

2251
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:29,439
no of, course, tragic the logic but the but the

2252
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:33,880
the the reaction to, it it, was it was just.

2253
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:35,800
DIFFERENT i hadn't really heard of, that AND i, THOUGHT

2254
01:55:36,199 --> 01:55:39,680
i wish that hadn't. Happened, YES i get. That you

2255
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:41,640
know what a lot of people will say the difference

2256
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:46,560
between sinners and saints is, behavior AND i think that

2257
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:51,800
the difference between sinners and saints in real life is

2258
01:55:52,119 --> 01:55:54,960
one of the truth catches up and then we get

2259
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:56,800
to see who's what you, know.

2260
01:55:57,720 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 2: Then we find out we're all, sinners not, Me yeah we.

2261
01:56:01,079 --> 01:56:04,199
Speaker 1: Are the real difference is when the truth catches up to.

2262
01:56:04,239 --> 01:56:08,640
You that's. All, Oh danny's always fun and good to see.

2263
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:13,840
You yeah you, Too stay, strong stay focused and, There.

2264
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:16,680
BILLY i like our nuanced. Conversations, YES i enjoy. That

2265
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:21,399
next week we talk about, well you know, what maybe

2266
01:56:21,439 --> 01:56:23,520
that's the first one we do next. WEEK i could

2267
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:25,479
we could do that or make up part OF. Hiv

2268
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:28,600
he sounds. Dead we need to proud up the meat a.

2269
01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:32,920
Little oh For Dan, Morella Bill, Moran we'll see you next. Time,

2270
01:56:33,159 --> 01:56:36,159
California baby and things Of God worth is a land up.

2271
01:56:36,239 --> 01:56:39,399
Opportunity for, me is just a curse that judging make

2272
01:56:39,479 --> 01:56:41,159
us feel w