Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka. We call it a podcast from
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by Victor Chrysler Dots jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill
Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your
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we spread the word about the by Rich Yeah, Dan's
here in his A Yankee cap, getting ready for a
spring trainings in full.
Speaker 2: I've watched a spring training game of twenty years.
Speaker 1: So that's just fun, especially if you get one in
late February, because you're sort of seeing like Sarasota, Florida
or something, and it's like, yes, yes, life will come
back eventually. But yeah, that's uh, that's kind of fun.
I'd like to start out today, Dan, if you don't mind,
within an apology. And I had to do this, not
to you, not to you, to a listener. I had
said some things on the podcast which will be made
clear in their statement to me. I'll even give you
my statement back to them. A mala yeah, a malacopa. Yes,
that's that's that's pretty good, this person writes, and I
will leave their name out of it. I listened to
every single podcast of Billified since you began. Now Doug
was in here the other day, you and Doug talking
about g LP one's show Your Ignorance. I'll tell you
what I said after you should not throw out your
judgmental opinions. Doug didn't. I did. Saying it's the easy
way out is totally not true for people who truly
are obese. GLP shots have been used and tested for
over twenty years with no long term problem. Some people
may need to take the med for the rest of
their life. GLP is a hormone type peptide that humans
make in their body. But obese people again, I'm gonna
start laughing at it. I'm trying not to. Obese people
don't make enough of it, similar to how diabetics don't
make enough insulin. For people who have fought fat their
whole life, this is life changing, and it also is
anti inflammatory for some. It takes away arthritis or other
chronic problems. Also very helpful for preventing cardiac issues. It's miraculous.
You really sounded defensive to me. I'm still a loyal listener,
but couldn't help. But tell you how really dumb you
sounded tonight. Sorry, And what I said was, I don't
have a problem with anybody using g lp ones because
it came up Doug had gone to turks and caicos,
and I called it turks and fatsos. He's had a
picture and caos, jerks and cankles.
Speaker 3: He uh, he had a uh, he had a picture
of him on the beach.
Speaker 1: But that I mean that belly was like a bowling
ball on it. And I said to him, I go,
you know, it's sort of unfair because and I probably
sounded like even more ignorantive. A friend of his was
getting married, so he was a destination wedding and he
was invited and he went down. Yeah, a lot of
uber light rides for that one. Yeah, and so he yeah,
did he ask if he could fly the plane? I
don't know. I don't know, but I carried people around
all the time. I think he was. Uh. So he
brought up the gop ones and I and I said, yeah,
I think they're great for people to lose weight. I
think anything that's going to help you feel better about yourself,
I have no problem with it, whether it be plastic surgery,
or anything. On a very simple level, I have no
problem with any of that because it's hard enough, right,
The human experience is tough. Yeah, whatever's going to get
you through the day, I'm cool with that. But then
if you ask me my opinion of gop ones, all
I said was, you know, I've noticed since a lot
of celebrities who were out there going big as beautiful
and love me for who I am. I haven't heard that,
And that's all I said. Don't don't don't jump in yet,
don't jump in yet. Hey go, let me finish my thought.
I've said a word. No, I heard you. You're ready.
I know you're ready. But this is where you're smart.
You write it down. So I just said, what happened
to all those people who were telling me, I go,
where's the lizzos? Oh they're skinny now, so it doesn't
fucking matter, like so in a way where you all
full of shit because the golp one's and all I
said about the golp ones and I would say this,
and I'm basing my information on people who had gas
gastric bypass surgery. Does it help you in the short term, yes,
But if you're not disciplined. It's not going to work anyway.
Do you have to stay on shots for the rest
of your life? This person writes that maybe that some
people have to do that. Some people may have to
do that if they're diabetic and it's really working for them,
that's wonderful. I don't want to be giving myself a
shot all the time. But when you used to say
things like, you know, diet and exercise, people would start
fucking jumping up and down at You're going, no, don't
tell me. I come from a big family. Bah bah bah.
Oh Okay, Hey, look, I'm not a chemist. I'm not
a I'm sure you know that. I'm not a doctor.
I'm not a biophysicist. I have no idea what really
goes on. All I know is myself. I did do
one of those extreme diets and I lost weight. I
didn't put anything. I didn't there were drops and some
bullshit like that, but most of it was like seven
hundred calories when I was doing it a day. Yeah,
and it's it's tough, but it worked, and it took
it off very quickly, and it took it off for
a long time. But it's amazing what it does for
your body. And I'm sure the people that are losing
the weight are seeing all the benefits this person who
thank you for listening every day sincerely, or every episode
that this person is also seeing. Right, you lose the weight,
there's probably less pain on the joints, the inflammation goes down.
All those things are wonderful. All I'm saying is it's
like a shortcut to get there. And just like I
was talked about the story of my aunt's husband, his
name is Frank, and my parents when they after the
house burn dad, they rebuilt this really nice house, but
they had a powder room right off the kitchen. And
my aunt and her husband lived in Albany, about an
hour from my mom, and so she would be there
for like, let's say, Easter dinner or whatever, and all
of a sudden, like twenty five minutes after they left,
Frank would come literally running into the house and he'd
go into the bathroom and he would fucking blow it up, dude,
because he over eight. And the thing was like, I'm
sure that feels, pardon the pun, shitty, but and I said,
my father used to say all the time, he would go,
let me be Frank with you. Please don't that's what
my dumb dads. That was his dad, Joe. He was clever,
heways clever. So but the thing was like, I go, okay.
So those guys did it, and some people blew through
it and put weight on and had to have another
surgery or whatever. I'm not sure what's going to happen
with the with the golp ones. If it's working for you, wonderful.
Don't fucking listen to me. But if you ask me
my opinion, and no one really did, I just spit
it out, so let me let me go there. But
if I were asked my opinion, my opinion would be
I'm cautious because it's not giving you, it's not changing
your lifestyle. I've heard people who have tried it. It
didn't really work for them, but the cramping and the
pain was so unbelievable. Maybe there's different ones. I don't know.
It's not something I want to try. Do I need
to lose weight, you bet your sweet ass. I do.
Do I have a plan for it, You bet your
sweet ass. I do. So those are but that's different
to me. Doesn't mean that I'm right, although I think
I am so.
Speaker 2: I love the fact that people listen to the podcast
or any podcasts for that matter. I've always believed and
I learned this lesson in the break room. If you
can't laugh at yourself, you have no right to laugh
at anything else or anybody else, because at some point
it's going to be your turn. How do you handle it?
And you weren't making.
Speaker 1: Fun of this situation. I wasn't trying.
Speaker 2: Everybody's got an opinion on things, and all of a sudden,
when the person who you know gets offended by someone's
opinion lashes. I don't say, lash is out, but gets
angry about that and says you're un educator and all
this other stuff. Okay, well show me the data, and
they kind of did. But it's okay to disagree. Here's
where you're coming from here, Here's.
Speaker 1: What I agree with.
Speaker 2: Okay, ozempic all those drugs they want you on, those
drugs for life.
Speaker 1: Here's what I mean. You ever own a credit card
the credit card company.
Speaker 2: If you could pay for it yourself in cash, you would,
but you don't.
Speaker 1: Why Because you got a credit card, you could pay
it off.
Speaker 2: A little bit at once, and the credit card company
is betting the odds. What are the odds that you
won't pay it all off the time that you will
have to pay a little bit, a little bit, a
little bit more, and a little bit more, a little
bit more, and then they got you on the chain.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It was an experiment that was started in Fresnel, California,
and now it's spread globally. Did the credit card and
like I remember, like when I was a young guitarist,
I went to a guitar center thinking that I had
to have the money in hand.
Speaker 1: Buy the guitar.
Speaker 2: They know you can get financing interest free for twelve months, right,
but then once you hit the twelve months, if you
haven't paid the guitar off, the interest rate was something
like twenty two percent, which is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: So what did I do? Month after month I didn't
have to make any payment.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I'll make it eventually. I'll make
it eventually, and I never did. Eventually had to pay
that plus the interest on it, which was ridiculous. Point
being is they were playing the odds that hey, if
you need credit, guess what they're gonna be able to
milk it. It's the same thing with this. If you
change your lifestyle or.
Speaker 1: If you do the work.
Speaker 2: You won't need to be hooked on this chain. Because
I know a lot of people want to talk about stats.
I know people who've gotten off GLPS and guess what,
they're bigger than they were before they got out.
Speaker 1: That's too big into an accordion, I don't.
Speaker 2: And that's dangerous to what because the drug companies have
played the odds against you, that you're not going to
change your lifestyle.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go back to being what you were before.
But I would say this, too, died an exercise. It's amazing.
When I did do that diet much much better I slept,
how much clearer I thought. So there's stuff in our diet, right,
but it's hard to avoid. You know, I'm tired. I'm
just looking for something quick. So what's quick? Shitty food
is usually yes, not always, but usually and so and
I think too, like exercise isn't just good for your body,
it's good for your mental health. It really is.
Speaker 2: Here's one of the best pills you can take is
your exercise.
Speaker 1: Here's my response, just so you know. And I really
was not trying. I don't like. I don't think you
were trying to be a Joe. I said, and maybe
I said, I was yelling at a little bit and stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a show you tune in for this reason.
Speaker 1: So I said, I appreciate you saying this seriously, and
thank you for riding with billified from day one. That
matters to me. If I came off ignorant or dismissive
about gop meds, that's on me. The last thing, the
last thing I ever want to do is minimize something
that's genuinely life changing for people. I was riffing, not researching.
And those are two different lanes. That said, you understand
that not everyone using the is in the category you describe,
but even those people shouldn't be minimized. Point taken. I
can have opinions without being flippant about someone else's health journey.
Thanks for calling me out. And then I said, uh,
this was really me, not Doug. I don't know why
I feel like I needed to add that, but if you.
Speaker 2: Ever watch a YouTube video with someone who's an influencer,
they have to put the disclaimer.
Speaker 1: For entertainment purpose.
Speaker 2: If you don't have that drilled into your head by now, look,
I can't help you, no, but the thing is like.
Speaker 1: It was my opinion on something that is working for her.
It's this person. This person I didn't what do you
care for? Well, I'm glad they did, because that's what
I want. I want you to be a feel like
you can interact with this show and you can be
heard on this show and we can have discussions on
these things, and that's it. But the biggest look to me,
the the worst thing for humans is uncertainty. Right, So
if I start this diet, I'm uncertain, I could stick
with it. But if I think this drug is going
to do it for me, I'm going to be better
at sticking with it. It's a weird thing, right, And
it would be funny. It would be really interesting to
me if they somewhere did a placebo GLP one thing,
you know, where people didn't have it, but did they
actually they were just injecting it. I feel like I'm
getting better, Well I mean no, but they're losing weight
and they're eating better, and instead of picking up a
bag of chips, they pick up a bag of baby carrots,
whatever that is. I would love to see that because
I do think that there's a little bit a little
bit to that, and that to me would be like
you know, we live in this illusion of control. But
you can control those things, Yes, you can know. That's
the stuff that's that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Now, there are some factors in genetics and biology that
influenced those things. I know people who've like they've been
battling this third entire lives. Their mothers tried to feed
them the best foods and everything else. They just have
that issue, right, it's genetic that does play.
Speaker 1: Upon and this person. This person then responded saying something
like that, Yeah, I come from a fat family. Okay,
there's nothing there's nothing wrong with that. I I don't know.
Speaker 2: By the way, you've seen Charles Barkley recently.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, just something ESPN the other day. Dude, like
he's got to be on that stay. Oh yeah, oh
everybody's on it, but it's all scary.
Speaker 2: Kelly Osbourne looks awful. Well, she lost a lot of weight.
Who's at one ship, Rebel Wilson, she looks terrible. Lizzo
looks awful. Lizzo was the poster child that you were
discussing earlier.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is like that South partly made.
Speaker 2: A whole episode about it. You're too poor to a
fod GLP threes. So we have the other cure Lizzo, which.
Speaker 1: At the time was feeling good about being big.
Speaker 2: Yes her weight Watchers wouldn't even call itself weight Watchers anymore,
was w W And then Bill Mark called him out.
Speaker 1: So why would just call for what it is? Why
don't we have to call it? But that's okay, it's okay, Yeah,
it is okay. You get to a certain point in
your life and if you have kids, you got a
lot of shity food in your house, and it's hard.
It's hard to not eat the chicken nuggets, and it's
hard to not eat whatever chips are around and try
to dive into something. It's tough. And I and I
did that for the past two years of James since
here I ballooned way up. So I'm trying, but I
don't want to do something like that. And I have friends.
I have a lot of guys I know. And it's
the thing is like it loose muscle. It's quiet, like
they don't they don't, they don't say.
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, like you see them. You
haven't seen him while and all of a sudden you
see him, like two months later.
Speaker 1: Wow, Doug. Now, it's just what happened to the ug Well,
see to me waiting for something, Danny waiting for to
lose the weight. That's about character those do you think
it builds character? Seven weeks man like you? I was
one of those.
Speaker 2: I had eat five hundred calories today, right, and I've
been able to keep my weight down not to where
it was, but like within like five to ten pounds. Okay,
it takes work. You gotta do it every day. And look,
you got a weigh yourself every day. You can't wait
a week. You have to do it every day, so
you know what you're doing daily commitment.
Speaker 1: I would say that, you know, patience is one thing, right,
you gotta have some patience. We don't like that. Think
of people of the DMV. They fucking go crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh do we live in a non demand world? And
so with AI it's only getting worse.
Speaker 1: And you've got I'll say this, I believe this is
more of a religious term, but I use it a
lot faith faith that this is gonna work. You gotta
have a little humility along the way to just kind
of suck it up and do it, you know, speaking
of the DMV, I uh oh, no, I have my
I had a the DMV isn't is interesting. They do
something now at the DMV that I can't decide if
it's ingenious or it's torture. I can't decide yet, And
I'm not kidding. I have my my dad's car and
I have not registered it. I haven't driven it a ton,
except for maybe long trips and things, but I haven't
registered it since I've had it since I don't know,
like the end of the summer or whatever it was.
Maybe it was right after he died. So I'm finally like,
I got to get to the DMV and get this
registered for New York. I have a New York State
inspection on there, but I have I did not have
the tags. So I go to the DMV and you
got to sign in. Now have you been to the DMV?
Not recently? All right? You got to sign in on
an iPad and then they tell you it comes up.
And I think it's the same for everybody. I was
hoping to be there as soon as they opened. There
were things that were unforeseen in my morning. Your whole
life is unforseeable. Well, I mean I look at it
this way, yes, but I always have to go. Life's
never gonna stop going out. Yeah, how are you gonna
handle it?
Speaker 2: That's why I like, what do you do your schedule
every morning?
Speaker 1: It's like problems? Yeah, well yeah, putting out fires. So
I get there probably around nine to forty five. They
opened to day thirty. I get in line, a little
bit of a line. I get up to the kiosk,
I sign in. How long do you think? It says
before my number is going to be called twenty six
minutes or and they don't do they do not do
numbers anymore. They take your name. Okay, so you put
your name in, so you're in Q. You're in Q
twenty six minutes, No, two and a half hours, So
you could just leave, go shop, come back. Hang on. Now,
that's an interesting thing that you do that. This is
why I can't decide if this is absolute torture or ingenius,
because what were we always told in different things? Right,
under promise, over delivered, under promise, over delivered, greatest thing
in the world. Right, it's gonna take me two and
a half hours, and it doesn't when.
Speaker 2: You go to a restaurant, yeah, forty minutes. When they
cut the time in half.
Speaker 1: Ooh wow, under right, Yeah, under promise, over delivered. So
two and a half hours. So I have because my
dad did not sell this car, he just died, so
I have a copy of his death certificate, and I
have I have all the other information that I need,
and I go up the guards. Sometimes he was answering
questions for people, so I said to him, Hey, uh,
do I need anything else? Any other for me? Because
I don't know? You have to go up to the window. No,
but there's a window where you can just walk up
and ask a question. So I go up and a
woman says to me, how can I help you? I said,
I said, I'm trying to register her vehicle. I am
next next to ken, But is there anything else I need?
Because it was from my dad he's deceased. And she goes, oh, yeah,
there's another piece of paper you're probably gonna have to have.
And I said, okay, what is that? I don't know.
Let me go ask somebody. You think they'd have the answer. Okay,
it gets better. She comes back and she goes, yeah,
you need to have another piece of paper. I go
from where yeah she's like and she looks over and
the woman says something like from the estate. She goes,
you need another people piece of paper from the state.
I go, what exactly is that piece of paper? She's like,
what do you mean you need a you need something
from the estate. I go, what is that exactly? I go,
you're the DMV. You're telling and this is how I
said it to. I go, you're the DMV. You're telling
me I need this piece of paper and you can't
tell me what it is like. I didn't yell like that,
but and she fucking clipped me off. She goes, you're
gonna have to wait to get up to the window.
So now am I gonna be there for two and
a half hours? So I'm already not super thrilled, and
I had some other paperwork to fill out, and I'm
standing there and I'm on the phone. At this point,
I'm gonna start taking calls. I'm just running, just running
my day, and all of a sudden, I gotta go.
They just call my name. It was within twenty minutes.
Now to your point, what did you say when I
said two and a half hour.
Speaker 2: Wait, go shop and maybe come back right So had
you done that, you would have missed your turn.
Speaker 1: Here's my thing. They give you. They text because you
put in your phone number, they text you and link
for you to check your status. How many people are
doing that because they leave and they're driving. They're not
doing that. I go, this is either ingenious or it
is maybe I should change it too. It's like, it's great,
but it's also pretty cruel because you told somebody they
have two and a half hours. Nobody wants to sit
around the fucking DMV. No, you don't even make it comfortable.
Could you get a fucking cushion on these chairs? Cheezy
fucking nothing. Some do this, one didn't. But they're not comfortable.
Matter of fact. I so when I do get up. Now,
I've got a bunch of things. I gotta go back
and forth. I gotta get this, I gotta get that.
I gotta so. But I'm all, it's all. If it's
not in my hands, I can go to the car
and figure this out. So I say to the woman
at one point, Hey, can I sit in this chair?
She goes, oh, it's one of the chairs. Like, well,
we sit in here? She goes, No, that's the guard's chair.
Do not sit in that chair. I don't know where
the guard he is nowhere near this chair, but every
other chair is. So you don't make it comfortable. You
tell people it's two and a half hours. Right. My
buddy Joe Linley comic comes in all of a sudden,
he comes, hey, man, we're talking for a little while.
He's helping his girlfriend to some car, and he goes,
two and a half hours. Man, I go, don't. He goes,
We're just gonna go sit in the car. I go, don't,
I said, because they call you with him, I said,
I think it was twenty minutes for me. Maybe last
I don't even know, but I'm like, it must be
a number of people who just leave. That's fucking cruel.
And I think it says if you missed your turn,
you gotta turn over like you gotta.
Speaker 2: Oh holy shit, it's a weed out.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's right. It's like the cruelest fucking thing.
I go. That was That's why I was torn on it,
and I'm like, I'm glad I didn't pull that. I decided.
I even brought a book that I have to read
for school that i'm a little behind in, so I
was gonna read that and it turned out it was great.
I was home before the two and a half hours
was even up with new tags on and registration. I
felt like, gree, no, this is the Henrietta One. Okay, yeah,
no I don't. I've been to the Henriette One. I
don't go to them. Not that they don't go to
the West Side. I'm just not traveling that. Yeah, you know,
I want convenience that that that's it. But I mean,
you know, it's faith first control, just like with the
diet gop was.
Speaker 2: You got to make sure you have that. Like if
you're on the d m V in a way, you
kind of know that you're going to need a carve
out some time, probably a morning or and after this.
Speaker 1: Yes, I figured I was going to be there. I
was picturing myself because I didn't get there closer to
ten o'clock that I wasn't getting out there to twelve
What time they open eight thirty, twelve thirty or one?
Speaker 2: They're a line when you wouldn't know that because you
weren't there yet. But I wonder if there's like a
line of people, probably I would absolutely trying to get
Springsteen tickets.
Speaker 1: All right, we got a risk bad policy in place.
So then now I've decided that I need to make
the people who are on the other side of the
glass that are helping me my friends. So over, Well,
this one lady.
Speaker 2: Seems like could be a genious.
Speaker 1: You probably did not see Monsters Ink, the kids movie
Do you have nieces and nephews? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I saw the first ten minutes and.
Speaker 1: She and the lady that was like in charge of
the secret people's all right next and she had the
glasses on, but she turned out to be kind of
sweet in a way, like this lady was like that.
She didn't even look up. So and she's grabbed my
paper since she's going through and she's got this and
I think they took my title and didn't give it back.
So I don't know what. I don't know if I
get a new title, I'm a little concerned about that. Yeah,
but anyway, so but I know they scooped it up
in the paperwork. So she's got a Tim McGraw mouse pad, right,
So I go, you like Tim McGraw. Don't you say
anything about my husband? I mean she likes yeah, all right,
So I said, I've seen him a bunch of times.
I were you the lady who grabbed his junk and
faith they'll yelled at him. You show I think, well
that was here. I thought there was one here here
you grab another woman's. Maybe not I thought it was here.
I don't know why I think that, but yes, I
hang on. So that and then so now I have
to go back and fill some other paperwork out, like
I got to do like a next to kin because
thank goodness, the death certificate's sad uh no no legal,
no surviving spouse because my parents are divorced. So I
was glad because I started to go, well, my mom's alive,
and she goes, wait the death certificate. I go great,
So now I gotta go fill out something else. And
I'm over there and she comes up all of a sudden,
like five minutes later and goes, it's my lunch break.
When you're done, just go to the window next to mine.
She knows she has all your stuff, it's all there.
She'll take care of you. And that was it. It was
like it was like smooth sailing. But you know, some
of the people, I can see why you would get
miserable with that. Yeah, I could see why you would
get miserable. But anyway, that's my thing. Waiting reveals character,
whether it's with diets, whether it's with sitting at the
DMV life is the DMV daddy persistence. We just don't
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I always decline, decline, and then I guess it's got cool.
So I don't spend any time looking at it. I should,
but it made me think, like there's a story that
that sort of inspired this part of the conversation here.
But uh, I think as human beings, a lot of
us don't eliminate vices. We just upgrade our operating system.
You know what I'm saying. They I'll try this now.
And it's a weird it's a weird thing. I've always
been a fan of Billy Idol. I remember, like in
high school and stuff, a lot of my buddies went
to see him in concert and ship my friend Jeff
Kotch I think, was in an elevator with him in Albany,
and like at the same hotel or whatever, and he's like,
fucking Billy, I don't Billy reaches out like reaches up
because he's a little guy, goes leaves. But Billy Ida
went on Bill Maher's podcast Club Random, which is an
interesting listen if you've ever had the opportunity, and he
said that he got off Heroin by smoking crack and
I was like, sure, I get it because I think
in like nineteen eighty four, I mean, Billy Idol, there's
a documentary that's coming out. I think it's going to
be I don't know how why the release will be,
but the documentaries, if it's not, it may already be out.
Speaker 2: I'm so behind the documentaries. I want to watch them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I know what you mean, right, because clearly
I have.
Speaker 2: To wait for my wife to go on a vacation
on her own to catch up in all the documentaries
I want to watch. Well, because we can't agree to them.
She won't watch documentaries. I think they're even a music Yeah,
and I think they're fascinating.
Speaker 1: Well, they give you some good information. I would also
say that, you know, like anything, there may be somebody
who's like bent on telling this side of a story.
They're storytellers, yes, and they all do have their own
perspective them maybe, and that's all. That's that's the only
thing you have. Take them with a grain of salt.
But this one is called Billy Idol Should Be Dead.
And I fucking loved the title, and I loved Billy Idol,
and I go, that's amazing. But I mean, Billy Idol
was heroin, like he left the man X came to
the United States to start his solo career, and man
he just talked about and the article I read had
him talking to the Associated Press and the New York
Times and People magazine. He had come here, and he
said his drug use ramped up as his popularity did.
But then he got into heroin and he said, I
didn't always shoot it. I usually snorted it. And then
I don't know why. So heroin was bad. But then
the crack, which is basically freebasing cocaine, is like amazing.
Then he had that motorcycle accent that you like because
I forget, I think his eyes without a face or
I don't remember what the song is. But the video
on MTV all you saw was Billy Idol like in
he was inside picture frames like walking down the hall
and stuff like that. And the reason he was is
he couldn't really stand at the time because as matter
of fact, I am pretty sure it was a white wedding.
That doesn't matter. I don't know. I am pretty sure
that Billy Idol was up for a role in Terminator two,
and because of the motorcycle accident, he couldn't do the
required running. I'm almost positive that that's a real thing. Okay,
I'm pretty sure that that's what happened. And I haven't
listened to Bill Maher's podcast. If it comes out on that,
I wouldn't be surprised. But I mean, he even said
here like I'm lucky I've kept a brain because some
people went brain dead and some people ended up in
jail forever. And he I think here he was talking
to the Associated Press and he said, imagine if it
was today, if I was doing what I was back
then today, I would be dead because I would have
run into fen mal Oh. Yeah, of course, right. But
it's like we got this thing in our brain. We
want stimulation and reward, and so you know, and I
have heard I've been told that the first the heroin
high is the most euphoric high. Ever, and then after
that you just keep tracing that feeling, and that's where
a lot of people kind of kind of lose their stuff.
But I go, you know, Billy Idol's heroin to crack,
and I'm thinking, I know people who have traded vices.
You know, bad eating for smoke smoking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the most common one.
Speaker 1: Well, the bad eating for smoking or vice vice versa.
I gotta stop smoking, so then bad eat badly and
I can put on a lot of weight. So I'm
not fried. I'm not gonna do a g O P one.
I'm going back to cigarettes.
Speaker 2: Hey, look, I switched from ruffles to triskets, and I
gotta tell you, man, this has been great.
Speaker 1: But it's like, I don't know. And then Billy Idol
says that he's California sober. Now I'm not even California's sober.
I think it is. We're used like Buffalo sober, like
that movie. No. I think California sober is like where
you don't do anything, but you do weed, okay, or
maybe you dabble a little bit in drugs but you
don't maybe you don't drink. Could be I don't know
what California sober. It just sounds like it was made
by some surfer. Dude goes, hey, man, here's the way
he gets a movie. You know what I mean? Drug
rehab designed by a surfer. Uh yeah, I don't I'm going.
Is Billy Idle the only guy who could ever say
I got clean by doing crack? He's seventy he's still live.
I know, Billy Idol should be dead. Well, it's amazing.
Speaker 2: Well, Keith Richards is the ultimate exact I know, you know.
And then you got the guy Bob Weir who was
like in his eighties it was a health.
Speaker 1: Nut, yeah, and ended up dying. Well, I mean, like
what you cross eighty seven? He was seventy nine. Okay, yeah,
it was there, and you get up there.
Speaker 2: All bets are off a lot of things.
Speaker 1: All bets are off, sure, I guess, but you try
to do your best to do whatever. But then sometimes,
you know, disease and things gets in there. I was
thinking of another one. Porn in place of promiscuity.
Speaker 2: There's a well, there's a they call in cells. Guys
who can't get can't get laid. Yeah, so they just
watch porn in jo and so that's that's why.
Speaker 1: That's how they you know, No, but I'm saying, let's
say you were a very promiscuous person. Oh, instead of
going out, they just maybe you found somebody. But but
you always have that little bit of an urge, like
it's the it's like the heroin, it's the vagina.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure that there's like lots of like well, okay,
we worked with a guy Tommy, who told us that
in England there used to be a health tip put
together by the government that says, trade Guinness for whiskey.
It's considered a health tip. Well because they had less calories. Right,
But that's like, you know, it's like trading.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you traded one evil one evil for another.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Partying all of a sudden, now I can't you know,
I'm not going to the clubs. Am I hanging out
with this crowd anymore. I become a CrossFit junkie. That's
my new party crowd. But I mean, I get healthier.
Speaker 2: But I mean I think that people who rip on people,
because there's a crowd of people who do this, right,
people who trade a bad vice for a good habit
like working out or Christianity or faith or something. There's
a group of people say, oh, you're just trading one
addiction for another. No, you're actually like upgrading your life.
One is healthy one isn't.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's like a vice necessarily. Maybe, but
I mean you, I mean, if you have an addictive personality,
you may as well channel that into something that's positive,
that's good, that's reinforcing, not something that is destructive.
Speaker 1: No, I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying.
But then there are there's always, like with any addiction,
sometimes there's a fall from grace, you know what I mean.
Oh yeah, relapse, Yeah, relapse. But yes, I will say
that I here's the thing that here's something that will
probably get me another scolding from a listener. I don't.
I'm not a big believer that addiction is a disease.
I'm with you on that one. And I don't mean
to sound mean to anybody. Whatever is going to make
your life better. You have a loved one that's going
through some stuff and you want to call it a
disease and they're trying to get help. Fine, it doesn't matter.
I'm just looking at this more like clinically sort of.
I think it's a mask for something else. There's a
lot of pain, a lot of trauma somewhere in your
life that you're avoiding because this is a wonderful escape.
You don't think about anything when you're high, you know
what I mean. You just you can't. You laugh, you
feel good, your body feels good, you say things that
are funny if you're drinking, you know what I mean,
depending on what you're using. And I think that that
becomes like the mask for the real pain. And so
when somebody goes from partying to the gym or all
of a sudden, somebody becomes like uber christian like almost
like feels like they're overdoing it to a certain extent, like,
oh they weren't aren't there three months ago, and now
they're baptized and they're handing out the panther. It does
feel like you're not dealing with whatever the issue is.
You found something else to mask that pain, to keep
you away from the pain, right, It keeps me away
from the pain except for those quiet moments. And that's
where I think a lot of times, when it's just
you and your thoughts, that's where I think a lot
of people stumble, and that's where things like rehab and
any cognitive stuff that you get through there is wonderful
and it can help people, and it has helped people.
It's proven, you know, even the twelve step program it worked, right,
it worked. Yes, So that's fine. It's probably the biggest
group therapy you're ever going to see anywhere, and it's
open and anybody can go in. But I just that's
my thought on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't like wake up one morning and go,
you know what, Man, I've never done this, but I
feel like the urge to smoke cigarettes.
Speaker 1: Yeah why, I don't know, I just feel like smoke it.
I think I just I got deserged.
Speaker 2: Like it's like, it's it's an acquired taste addiction. Okay, Hey,
it's an acquired sure taste. And if you have that personality, yeah,
you can get hooked. Okay, but let's not call it
a disease necessarily.
Speaker 1: Can we like examine the person first and we judge
the vice, right, we judge the vice and we say
these things, but we don't look at the underlying hunger
of it. What is that hunger? That thing that what
are you trying to? What void are you trying to fill.
And by the way, uh yeah, I think there's sex addicts.
I really do. I think there's people who could be
just like in the Hunt. It's and I don't know
what that is. It's like, is it power? Is that
what it is? In some way that I can influence
someone to sleep with me and then move on to
someone else, and then move on to someone else, like
or sleep with me for a while and then I
get bored and you know, I'm gonna go somewhere else
and I don't know, I have no idea, but and
that's where I go. Well, then if you trade it
for porn, well at least maybe have the guilt that
comes with the other one, and you don't necessarily feel
bad about yourself. And a lot of times maybe you're
staying out of places that you're also inebriated or whatever.
Speaker 2: That also leads to another set of problems. Yes altogether, Yes,
you know, Yes, I mean I think that I don't
like when I mean I think there's an underlying cause
for everything. There always will be. We're human, We're flawed. Okay,
So where are you going to channel your inner aggression
or inner rage or innert.
Speaker 1: What's your outlet, right, and it could be one or
two avenues.
Speaker 2: It could be destructive or productive, right, And so I'm
a believer in net time, no extra time. In other words,
now I don't have let me put to you this way.
I don't have kids, so I could get away with
a lot more of this. But I think spending time
with your kids is always quality time by point. In
other words, when you're not sleeping, you're doing something productive.
Like I have a tough time just sitting down and
just watching television. I gotta be doing something I feel productive,
you know. That's just. And then when I feel like.
Speaker 1: I've earned the right to watch, always show it that
I'll do that. You get a little reward, right, you know, and.
Speaker 2: Then we're once you've accomplished that goal, you reward yourself immediately.
But something that's not destructive. And I don't like when
because I think losers are the ones who say.
Speaker 1: You just traded one vice for another.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's the case. We all are
prone to some type of addiction. Choose your choose your pain.
Speaker 1: Go back to what I choose your pay for. We
don't eliminate vices, We just upgrade our operating system. But
that would be an upgrade, right, right if you went
from partying and club hopping and bed hopping to becoming
a CrossFit person. Okay, right, that's a better thing. You know,
I just don't want to hear it. Now. Here's what happens. Now.
Speaker 2: The next thing is okay, because those addictions, like according
to people who who counsel, and you're heading in that
direction counsel people with addictions of problems. Let's say you're
that bed hopping person, womanized or whatever, then you become
the CrossFit person instead. Okay, let's say you're that person
you become cross Then also, you've got this amazing body
and now more and more women are flocking to So
now how do you deal.
Speaker 1: With the fact that all of a sudden, now the
attraction finds you. But I go home or or well
that's the thing. I'm sure I start fishing in the
in the uh CrossFit hole. There you go. Yeah, but
still like you got you still have to fight that
urge work. Yeah, like wall jumps, bitch, you.
Speaker 2: Have to kill that flesh every single day. Yeah, it's
a daily battle. It's a daily battle.
Speaker 1: Here's something else, because you sort of touched on it
with Keith Richards. You've got how do some people survive
such reckless lives and other people are dead at twenty
eight and maybe didn't even live a reckless I think
about that. It's so weird. Yeah, it's a very very weird,
weird thing. I I because, and I'm sure like that's
where I go. People must get very very upset about that. Well,
you know, one guy gets to party for thirty years
and he's still alive at seventy, and it's bad for
I don't. I mean, look Billy Idol. I think there
were times where he was like turning blue and people
saved his life by throwing him like in an ice
bath or something like that. I don't know fuck about
what they did, but he's still here right, and everything
seems to be okay. And yet then there's other people
who lived lives that they went to the gym and
did all that. And that's where sometimes my stupid head goes,
fuck it. I'm just going first, because where none of
us survive, might as well have fun. And that's not
always a great choice sort of thing. But I do
I think about these guys, I go, would you rather
have lived? This? Really exciting life that got you to
let's say seventy or eighty and or do you want
to be the guy that was a teetotaler by the
book let a very boring life, really struggle with his
boring life. Didn't want to be but it was just
disciplined and d and then regimended and then you die
somewhere around the same age. I go, I'd rather be
the other guy. I'd rather that.
Speaker 2: It depends on how you want to be remembered.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true legacy you want to leave, I know.
But here's the bad part that I was thinking. This
is something that I go, fucking Billy Idol, how fucking
cool is this guy? How fucking cool is this guy?
Almost died a couple of times motorcycle action. It's always
that rebellion, always pushing agains stuff. And then I go,
what if that were my kid, I'd be out of
my mind, be out of my mind. It's always cool
when somebody else's well. But I mean, like Billy Idol,
you made it seventy man, cool, motherfucker? What's going on? Right?
Speaker 2: And that would be why parents were probably less scared.
I mean they were scared for him. I don't know
a lot of rock stars come from these broken homes,
and they all had these stories.
Speaker 1: He said there was a I think it was him
that said there was a lot of tragedy early in
the life. I don't know. I want to see this documentary.
Billy Idol should be Dead? Could be good?
Speaker 2: It sounds incredibly fascinating.
Speaker 1: Well, it does because you're seeing somebody who I mean
a lot of Billy Idol songs. Actually, when he's sang
a ballad, he sounded pretty good. He could you know,
Oh yeah, he had a hit about ten years ago.
It's like, this is Billy Idol. It was and it
was on like a local station like p x Y.
Oh really yeah, it was like it was like it
was like a it was on a pop station. I
don't know.
Speaker 2: But it all depends on your motivation, Like what is
motivating you? What do you want to be remembered for?
Speaker 1: What? What is getting you up in the morning? What
is it?
Speaker 2: What is motivating you? Yeah, for me, it's like I'm
gonna face Jesus someday.
Speaker 1: But see that's you and then and Billy Idols like, yeah,
I'm gonna face him too. But right now, to a
line off a hooker's ass groupie's tits. I don't know.
I mean, but do you feel fulfilled after that? No,
you don't feel peel filfilled. You do in the moment.
Stop asking stupid questions, you know. Answer.
Speaker 2: You're the guy who, like it, gets into philosophic philosophical discussions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm teasing you. Yeah, I'm teasing you. Well, yes,
look like by Rick Flair.
Speaker 2: Rick Flair said he they asked how he was with,
and he gave the number, and it was like it
was a he was a huge number.
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 2: He goes, ain't that terrible? Yeah, and he goes, that's
not a happy thought. Yeah, he goes, I can't go
to bed alone and that's not a happy thought.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the guy who was called the man
more than any other guy.
Speaker 1: But what what's driving that? Right? What's driving you know?
Speaker 2: Rick Flair's original name was Fred Phillips. He was adopted,
he was stolen. He was he was adopted, but he
was a stolen Yeah, he had no desire stolen.
Speaker 1: I think he was.
Speaker 2: He was like stolen like in other words, he was
one of those like babies on the black market.
Speaker 1: What Yeah, get the fuck out of here what went?
Wait a second, you gotta get him on this podcast.
I need to have this conversation if you if you can.
Speaker 2: Get him on, like he probably charged an arm and
a leg. He goes through that money like whiskey believe.
Speaker 1: But but Rick Flair was was stolen.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think he was stolen. His original
name was Fred Phillips.
Speaker 1: This sounds like an accountant.
Speaker 2: His brother, actually his biological brother, reached out to him
and he wanted nothing to do with him.
Speaker 1: He was Richard Fleer.
Speaker 2: He was adopted and I don't know if that had
something to do with it. But you want talk about
a guy who should have been dead by now many times? Yeah,
Rick Flair is like the Keith Richards of Rustley. Oh,
by the way, in the physical toil on your body,
your body, that was like playing seven football. Yeahs I
get that three hundred days of a year. But I mean,
but he was people have come out in fact after
the first document so ESPA did the thirty for thirty
on him, and he didn't like what was said about
him in his own documentary, so he went to NBC
or Peacock and then they did another one which was
more favorable to Rick Flair, right, okay, but even his
own son in law who tried doing a podcast with him,
because I can't even work with my own father in law.
Speaker 1: I can't do it. Well. Is it because he's he's
just all over the place. He's just always gotta be drinking.
Speaker 2: He's always got to be partying.
Speaker 1: He's always got to be on the go, right.
Speaker 2: And if you see Rick Flair, like, he don't look good, okay,
but he's still he's still alive and he's still with it.
But the thing about Rick was that he the guys
like Triple H and Sean Michael said, I don't think
Rick Flair and Richard Fleer have ever had a conversation.
Speaker 1: In other words, he's lived this gimmick for so long
he doesn't know he really is that well, I would
say that that problem that sounds like it's a lifelong thing.
I'll just throw this out there. I don't want to
upset anybody, but there is a there's a lot of
trauma in babies. Like babies suffer trauma, and the one
thing that you're supposed to do as a parent is
make them realize it's okay to cry for no reason. Like,
don't you know what I mean? And and that when
we try to quiet a baby, we're actually going against
their natural adjustment system and we're trying to get them
to sort of conform. And then that's not a good
thing to be doing, like you pick up you know,
that kind of thing, because the message is being sent.
Whether or not we believe that can actually get it,
it's being proven that it can. But here's where I
was going to go. One of the things that is
considered trauma and you need, like if you have a child,
come in and you need to do a bad you
got to get a background is adoption. It's considered a trauma.
And I could see that and you feel so bad
because a hundred percent one hundred percent. And that's the
thing is like I I hesitated to even say this
because it sounds like, well, they're babies. They don't they
don't even speak, they won't remember this. And trauma is
in your nervous system. It's not in your brain. It's
in your nervous system, and it can be there forever
and ever and ever, and a lot of times there's
we don't know that. And so with babies, you can think, ah,
they'll get overady. You don't remember that, but it it
goes in your nervous system. So and it is that
separation from the parent. Now, it doesn't mean the primary
caregiver couldn't be an adopted mom or even an adopted dad.
It doesn't mean that at all. You just have to really,
it's just another step. You got to be more consistent
and a little more aware. I was unaware of any
of this, but I'm reading this book and it's like wow,
And I know people who have put a child up
for adoption, and I know people who have been adopted,
and I would never want to make them feel badly
about any of that stuff because and they're probably going
full shit. But maybe I don't know. I'm just telling
you that there are these theories out there that have
been studied, and that's one of them. And as you said,
it kind of makes sense if you think about it,
not having given a child up for adoption and not
having been adopted. I have no idea, you know, but
I'm with you. There's a lot of times where a
kid better than an orphanage better than you know, if
for some people, abortion is a terrible thing, and so
this is a way, right and I don't like saying
it because I have known people who tried so hard
to have a child biologically and they couldn't do it,
so they adopted because they just had so much love.
They wanted to love these kids and that's all they
wanted to do. They just want to be a loving parent.
That's cool, Yes, I agree, but you don't want to
tell them, by the way, ah, just spitballing here, there
might be some trauma in that job because you adopted them, right,
Nobody wants to fucking hear that. I was like, oh
my god, this almost feels like something I need to
keep secret, but it is to me.
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of like it goes without saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe I've talked to too many adopted people, but the
common thread is that, yeah, my parents gave me up.
Speaker 1: It very well. Uh boyt And just that alone, right
to say it in that way sounds pretty bad. Who
wants to be rejected before they even had a chance
to have a personality, right, you know what I mean?
That's tough. That's really tough. Yeah. I haven't talked to
enough adopted people too in that manner, In that manner
to say you know, but I that coulda be your
next project. It would be an interesting study. I'll tell
you that, it would be a really interesting study for sure,
because I know people who have I know of people
who have found their biological parents later on and have
built really wonderful relationships with the biological parent. And I
do wonder if, in some way, just going with the
theory that the traumas in the nervous system, was there
always this wondering like I don't really fit in here,
or I don't really look like them, or I don't
you understand what I'm saying? Yes, like, so why am
I hereing? What happened? Who didn't? Who did not want me? Right?
Because how else can you say it?
Speaker 2: And then on the flip side, I was told that
in the sixties and the fifties, sixties, seventies, and eighties,
when you adopted a child, they would put you in
a family that looked most like you. I wanted families
to look alike. So if you were Italian, they put
you in I'm not joking, they would put you in
an Italian family, huh. If you were if you were
irish or redheaded, they would put you in a family
that looked kind of like you.
Speaker 1: I wonder if I was a redheaded Italian because I
had a friend who was a redheaded.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know a couple Yeah from the north.
Speaker 1: You get Chris Bartolomeo, who was a redd Italian. Uh oh,
I don't know. I mean I get why people would
do that so that way there would be questions or
all that stuff. You know what I mean. I always
love who is the comic this is terrible? But we
have a friend who adopted someone a child of that
was not of the same race as them, right, and
this comic goes, yeah, man, anytime, like you know, a
kid has one of those meltdowns on the playground and
you're you know, or you're in the mall and they
just wanted the ice cream and they're screaming and yelling,
they're crying, and you just scoop them up and just
start running for the door. I always think I'm gonna
get tackled by security because I'm of a different And
it just made me laugh just because you could see, right,
and there's so much judgment about fucking everything, you know,
we all got opinions on. Uh.
Speaker 2: Well, my grandfather's a very famous story of my family.
But my grandfather, he would drink wine all the time,
made it himself, threw his own grapes, made his own wine.
Sunday dinner comes around. The whole family's around this before
I was born. Okay, so we had had a cousin
named Veto. He was adopted. It's Italian and he's adopted.
Speaker 1: So he's asking my grandfather, So grand Granpa, where are
we from? Grandfather? So what do this?
Speaker 2: By the third question, I think my grandfather just wanted
to keep drinking. He goes, well, what do you care?
Speaker 4: You're adopted? Grandma said. The whole family went to bed
angry that night.
Speaker 1: Was he Yeah, my cousin told me this story.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we were all we were embarrassed for him. Yeah,
he was adopted. Okay, but he didn't know. He knew,
Oh he did, he knew. But the point is is
that you know, you don't what do you care? You're adopted?
Like you don't want to.
Speaker 1: Us You're outside again. He knew he was adopted.
Speaker 2: That was the way my grandfather handled it. But how
about I'm tired of answering your questions. That's what tricked
my wine and watched Barney.
Speaker 1: Miller even in the Godfather. Right, Yeah, Tom Hagen was
taken in. But Hagen was taken in. But was he
adopted or just taken in? He was taken in.
Speaker 2: He wasn't adopted according to the book, Uh, taken in
as a child. He was taken in as a child. Yeah,
Sonny knew him, but he kept the same name. Don
Corleon did not want him to forget his heritage, so
he was You know, there's even Eliza's It's easy for
you to say, Tom, you're not he's not your father.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's much a father to me, is you? And Mike? Yeah? Right? Right?
But then why the Avengers is shooting? Yes?
Speaker 2: Remember so he wasn't officially adopted, but they took him in, right.
Speaker 1: But and you can see that too. And I think
like there are sayings that often say anybody can uh
be a dad, but it takes a real man to
be a father.
Speaker 2: Yes, then he fool the grant couldn't have a baby
that takes him.
Speaker 1: Oh man, you self edited. My goodness, We'll take a
moment just since we're on these human vice things. You
ever look around and wonder who want the car next
to me? And what are they on? Ever, No, I'm serious.
Do you ever like who's say the car next to
me and what are they on?
Speaker 2: I just out of curiosity, not what are they on,
but like, well, what's going on?
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i do listen fuck, fuck oh, YEAH i. FORGOT i
forget WHAT i. Say you know WHAT i. Mean it's
been like that my whole. LIFE i SOMETIMES i don't
know What i've said on the air off the. Air
right when we were in radio, CONVERSATIONS i HAD i
had no. Idea, uh but we're talking about like, here
we talked about the d M, v we talked ABOUT, gps,
right we talked About Billy idol and you know all his,
vices that he's still alive at Seventy Billy idol should be.
Speaker 2: Dead, Well but they tell you when you get off,
heroin they put you on. Methadone, yeah that's the next level.
Speaker 1: Down, yeah you. Know so maybe then he was out of.
Something but even that's, addictive of course it. IS i,
mean freebasing cocaine is fairly similar to. CRACK i think
the rock has. Crystallized the other maybeat something. Else but
that's How Richard pryor burned himself up pretty? Bad is?
Speaker 2: That how Like Ricky nelson died their freebasing cocaine on a. Plane,
yeah they caught fire and the plane.
Speaker 1: Crashed, luna, listen WILL i should not have? It that's
so so it's. Terrible can't please every?
Speaker 2: Once oh, yeah, gosh we.
Speaker 1: Doing but did you ever sit at a red light
and look around and, GO i wonder how sober everybody
in the other cars really are at this?
Speaker 2: Moment sobriety not at the red light WHEN i see,
him like driving back and forth in between lanes and stupid, stuff, yes,
okay or like if it's snowing, out But peter's, Side,
no they're in a.
Speaker 1: Hurry but if you got somebody who's like gripped the
wheel there just straight, AHEAD i always go for the
coco bottle. Glasses well not the coke boild. Glasses, yes
well that's a h that's somebody who shouldn't probably, too
which is, accurate by the, Way BUT i Always and
then you look over at somebody else and you, go
either they just left yoga or a felony because they're, sweaty,
stringy you know WHAT i, mean they're like AND i
can never. Tell and the REASON i bring this up
is there was a headline WHERE i read that a
lady had a headlight. Out they pull her. Over she
had like expired license or. Something so now they search
the car and they find like a ton of meth
and a ton of cocaine and other, stuff and they.
Go you never know who you're on the road. With
you could be on the road with the family and
that's going To, wegmans and you could be on the
road with someone who's delivered meth in cocaine, somewhere and
you are on the road with those. People you just.
KNOW i remember at like five, o'clock because we since
we worked odd, hours never really were on the road
when there was real, traffic right, Right you missed Those.
Speaker 2: When alex did the traffic reports for, us she, goes
there's no traffic on the road, today and you And
tommy opened.
Speaker 1: Up wait a, Minute wait a, minute there's always.
Speaker 2: Traffic as long as there's a car, somewhere there's traffic.
Speaker 1: The. Top, george hear. This it's we were. Awful we were.
Awful what she meant was no traffic, delays but she
didn't say no, traffic no, traffic cars are off the.
Road i'm going. Listening this is.
Speaker 2: Your turn to try to turn four nine into the
autobod because nobody is.
Speaker 1: Around, well NOW i have done that on the uh
you know Loop? No? Uh what is it called out
toward The Ontario State? Parkway? Yes is? That is that
The Ontario State parkway out by the. Lake. YES i
went out there and a guy portia but it was, manual,
Okay AND i was just fucking. Flying and THEN i
needed to come down real.
Speaker 2: Quick AND i gotta be careful out. There there's a
lot of swamp. Land you might end up in.
Speaker 1: The, no, no, no, NO i was. Fine he just, said opening,
up so you don't have to tell me.
Speaker 2: Twice wasn't It Billy moran who once, said you're not
as good as you think you.
Speaker 1: Are all the. TIME i said that all the, time
and my sons remind me. THAT i say to them,
often do you know as good as you? Think your?
Dad not as good AS i once? Was BUT i
always think like human beings are operating with with like secret.
Lives oh, YEAH i Mean i'm. Not maybe MAYBE i
shouldn't say. Secret that's that's not that's like are you
the person you are at home when you're out in? Public? Yeah,
well think about the basest.
Speaker 2: Form of yourself at? Home are you that person in?
Public of course not, no But i'll change. It hidden,
lives hidden, lives, okay the.
Speaker 1: Thing parts of ourselves that we. Hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah you don't see me scratching my belly button in public,
often But i'll do at.
Speaker 1: Home, oky what's? That but how normal someone looks versus
what they're carrying could be completely surprising and. Shocking AND
i will tell you the.
Speaker 2: MORE J simpson, right perfect, EXAMPLE j perfect.
Speaker 1: Example now he ain't.
Speaker 2: Kidding he ran for two thousand yards in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 1: Three is a buffalo. Bill he didn't killed. NOBODY i
just saw a comic On TikToker. SOMEWHERE i WISH i
got this guy's. Name and he, goes you, know, ABORTION
i MEAN i could see the argument against, it AND
i can see the argument for. It he, goes let
me give you an. Example young woman has a, baby
decides to have the. Baby NOW i put it up for.
Adoption but it's like the nineteen. Forties it's the late nineteen,
forties and and you, know she. Does this baby gets was,
born and he gets has grown, up and it becomes
like an amazing athlete and it sets all kinds of.
Records he goes to THE nfl and it's all kinds of,
records and then afterwards becomes very popular as a. Sportscaster
it gets onto, movies it gets onto all that, stuff
and you're, going, yeah this is why you shouldn't have.
Abortion but that.
Speaker 5: Person turned out to be Oh Ja, sipson and he
goes and THERE i kinda, go, well the, abortion we
won't have any of these, problems you, know which is,
terrible but it's a funny.
Speaker 1: Joke and WHAT i think sometimes is the greatest thing
about comedy is that you can show our flawed, selves
or even our flawed thinking if you do it, well
you know WHAT i, mean or taking two things that
just wouldn't be together and and you just gotta you,
know join them together in some. WAY i just think
that sometimes comedy could be the greatest teacher of, things
or even the greatest lesson in Ourseln, GOD i think that.
WAY i should Probably nick get buy of that, way you.
Know but that was, funny like you, know, no, really,
glad really, Good i'll turn you know WHAT i? Mean
and so, RIGHT i, mean, look how rare is? That
It's it's a very very very very rare. Thing here's
the REASON i asked this. Question this lady gets, popped, Right,
okay big, deal not the first, time not going to
be the last. Time, well WHAT i wonder, is and
you brought this up with like the golp ones and
what did you say about golp ones and the pharmaceutical
Company they want to keep you hooked for? Life? Okay
SO I i look at AND i better living through
chemistry right. Now sometimes it's a. Tool if you are
a personal. Squire there Are barry Bods berry, bonds ask
for forgiveness, later very. Bonds it's, joke, Right but, okay
so if these and some of, Them i'll, say your.
Tools let's say you're somebody who's, uh you got a bad,
temper quick, temper and it hasn't served you well for a.
While don't look at me like, that and don't look
at me like. That and let's say they put you
on a low dose OF ssr one or what do
they call, them.
Speaker 2: Yes, Inhibitors, okay s SR s that s s all,
right thank. You and since you're taking the master's, Classes
i'm telling, you, Well i'm just put on the stuff
SO i.
Speaker 1: Know, okay, okay. Okay did it? Help? Yes and it
gives you a little bit of a cushion to actually
absorb something before you react to, it, yes which is always,
better not for temper but for other. Stuff, yes, okay for.
Whatever But i'm saying for someone who's got a quick,
tiper that could be, it and that's better living through.
Chemistry that's. GREAT i don't even call it. THAT i
would say that's a tool to help you be the
best you could. Be, yes nothing wrong with. That but
then there's some all these other things where like it's
pain medication and he probably really needed it and maybe
you get a diggor to do, it BUT i, go
but you're getting behind the wheel of the fucking car
and sharing the road with. Me and WHAT i started
to say earlier was when you AND i not on
the roads at the time of traffic and you brought Up.
ALEX i remember being, like not far from where we're
sitting right now at a traffic, light just around five,
o'clock AND i looked to my right and there is
a guy drinking a. Beer plain this. Day he probably
was more sober than anybody leaving a. Bar and by the,
way a lot of people, go if you have that third,
drink leave immediately because it's going to take a while
to get in your, system and if you get pulled,
over you'll probably blow under and you can keep going
home and. Recover but this guy. Was it's illegal to
drink and, drive and he. Was he was drinking a
beer in plane. SIDE i remember looking at LIKE i
had to do a double take. Him it was he
was behind, Me it was in my rearview. MIRROR i,
went what the fun AND i had to see it
WAS i think it was a Mults AND i was,
like holy, shit holy, shit, right and you go, OH.
Speaker 2: I Think i've seen, ACTUALLY i Think i've actually seen
people driving on the way to the, podcast like those
big forty ouncers in the. Car, WELL i Think i've
told you about, it like the first year we were
doing the. Podcast, yeah five six o'clock in the.
Speaker 1: Afternoon, yeah guy's drinking one of those pounder. Cans, YEAH
i don't. Care, yeah driving. Amaze and by the, way
it Wasn't. Kevin it's it's probably no worse than drinking
a diet coke in terms of. Distractability AND i would
assume that's the first. One so they're not, drunk, right
so THEY i, mean you would get it for open
container and you probably that would just usurp, everything even
whatever YOUR bac. IS i don't, know unless you have
a really good, attorney we could probably argue. THAT i
have no, Idea BUT i do wonder with like all
the pharmaceutical, companies is you sally want to get you
hooked on something so now you need it whatever it,
is or like. It you know you're we don't, know
people doc, SHOP i need, THIS i need, this AND
i need, this and they and the two doctors or
three doctors, whatever don't know anybody. Else by the, way
you could like they could mail it to you now,
Too go To roman, yeah gets go to. Hymns do
you have a history? Depression, yes you might want to try, This,
okay sign me. Up, Great, yeah that's how it, works,
Right and it might BE i don't, know maybe it's.
OKAY i have no. Idea i'm Not i'm not. Trying
i'm just, saying, LIKE i just. Wonder WHEN i look,
AROUND i, go you got a phone in? There m.
H and he also could be on. SOMETHING i THINK
i just want to get, home, yes you, KNOW i,
MEAN i just. Please it's like fucked.
Speaker 2: Up it's fucked, up and that that happens more than
you think or more than you want to. Believe and
by the grace Of, god they're staying between the lines usually.
Speaker 1: Yes right or a lot of times right, exactly and
that that was all or you know people now with.
Weed some some people just, oh, dude that is taking
a little gummy and you know they're doing thirty five and.
Speaker 2: Well megan McCain came out, Yesterday john McCain's, daughter and
she used to be on The view of, course and
she says she she regrets pushing for the legalization of
marijuana because of that very. Reason really that, like now
we have created a generation of. Zombies but we can't
tell if that because, like you could smell alcohol at
somebody you've been.
Speaker 1: Drinking, oh you can smell. Weed, Wow i'll smell. Weed you, can't, Like, oh, god,
gummy you. Can't. DUDE i went To wegmans the other.
Day i'm standing in the.
Speaker 2: CHECKOUT i like the like the five items are less and.
Speaker 1: DUDE i could smell the. Weed, okay did you? People did?
You now here's the. Thing, now you got to turn
that into a. Game you got to guess before you
find the. Person you got to guess what they're. Buying
that'll be a, creaky, right if you smell the weed
and you're at a grocery, store you got to guess
what's in that person's. Cart you gotta. Look it's got
to be, like you, Know, dorito's and it's got to
be some kind of, pizza pizza, logs anything that's quick and.
Easy hey, Man oh, yeah, definitely somebody put in the.
Speaker 2: Microwaves by the, WAY i got told by a guy
over the weekend how much he misses what you're doing
at the courthouse and the funeral home game with the tanning,
Beds i'm The christmas songs to the waffle houses because
nobody does that stuff for they bow.
Speaker 1: Wow now not in this. Area, no, NO i. Understand
and somebody mocked. Us somebody mocked. Us somebody mocked. Us
somebody brought up the podcast on a radio show at one.
Speaker 2: Point oh really yeah here in.
Speaker 1: Town, yes, okay just, Really i'm aware of these, things,
okay and they, said oh, yeah still doing bits from
twenty years. Ago was, like, well maybe they got a.
POINT i never said anything to anybody because it didn't
really bother. Me it just made me. Think it. Did
it made me, think AND i, thought, well maybe that's
not what's. There but they're, funny and you know, what fuck.
IT i think we bring it.
Speaker 2: Back people like.
Speaker 1: It it's. Funny you worked, Now i'll ask. You you
don't really have time to do.
Speaker 2: It i'll make time to do, it, DUDE i will make.
Time we got to get a burner phone, though for
the tanning bed bit and the waffle house. Bit, okay
but once you do at the, COURTHOUSE i could do
that at any.
Speaker 1: TIME i got to carve out some time that. Way.
Now now see here's the problem because it would be
you AND i in here, Right SO i don't want
to know whether they're going to. Go oh do we
want to do it? Live? Yeah so you're thinking the bed,
live but you're thinking the tanning beds, live.
Speaker 2: Yes because because when we, tape that's when women are.
Tanning somebody set that tanning bit The Golden tans in The.
Speaker 1: South how's a, taker? Wregg how CAN i help? You
it's Golden NOW i have family members that own a tanning,
salon AND i think they're going away for a. While
there were still.
Speaker 2: There, yeah we look up the funeral home in town
like we used. To then we look up the tanning
bed and we you, know we we we missed an
opportunity Because Golden.
Speaker 1: Tans we came up with this, idea.
Speaker 2: Though you didn't come up with somebody else did, No
you did.
Speaker 1: No but there's no way that it came up sober
whoever came up with. That you came up with the,
IDEA i don't. Think So i'm with. YOU i don't
it Was it Wasn't, tommy it was you or, me
or you got it from. Somebody, well What i'm, saying
is wherever the idea. Originated i'm not looking for. Credit
that wasn't my point or Even i'm just saying it
couldn't have come from sober human things like. That no,
NOBODY i don't. Know, right somebody with a lot of
emotional baggage is no longer drinking and just looking for an.
Escape we're gonna fuck with people and call The i'm
willing to do. That i'll get a burner. Phone all,
Right i'll get a burner. Phone we can we can do.
THAT i HAVE i have a whole system.
Speaker 2: Out ivanus is dead and we need to get the body.
Speaker 1: That we need to get the body some. Color can
we put it in? There, yeah you can bring it around,
back but make it like a half. Hour remember they
used to they would say, That i'd be willing to do.
That like what if we did it? Monthly not every
not every? Time We, yeah we get do it like
once a, month once a, month we do one or the.
Other i'm in AND i and, here what kind of
jack is in your? Phone you have a different what
do you you have To is it the same thing
as is this? Though? No? Oh because all, right BECAUSE
i have wireless mics that that the receiver goes into your.
Speaker 2: Phone oh, yeah, NO i have the same, JACK i
have a Different, WELL i think the iPhone is a
little bit.
Speaker 1: Different that's, okay we can figure it. Out, yeah well either.
WAY I i have two sets from when before iPhone
switched everything anybody n AND i just bought other ones
AND i love. THEM i use them all the, time
so they're. Great uh, yeah let's do it once a.
Month once a month we bring back what you doing
at the. Courthouse the following, month we would do the tanning.
Speaker 2: Bed, game but then the waffle. House Waffle house is
more of a holiday thing Though Christmas carrol's and they'd
have to bet whether we finish them or.
Speaker 1: Not it Was. Juice juice was telling like one of our.
Speaker 2: Buddies oh bad because who moved to town after like
you you were no longer part of that. Show and
he was telling about all the stuff we. Did, oh the,
gate the sting in the park.
Speaker 1: In Genesee. VALLEY i gotta tell, you that was a
that was a big. One that was a that was
kind of an eye opener for. Me, YEAH i felt really,
bad AND i THINK i told my kid about that
And he's, like why would you feel? Bad he, goes
that guy could be you, know, yeah fucking his family
and all, that And i'm, like, yeah but what you're
not seeing is why is he doing. It he's unfulfilled
in some way and always probably has been a closeted
homosexual Who now you're right or you're, right this is
all built on there's a whole. FAMILY i come crashing,
down you. Know grandpa's.
Speaker 2: Gay just told me that he worked with a guy
who he got caught In Genesee Valley park and the
reason they caught it was because each of the cars
have like a tracking.
Speaker 1: System.
Speaker 2: And so he, goes, YEAH i took a short, cut
and they looked at the. Back there there's no short,
cut there's no customers in that.
Speaker 1: Area and then they looked at they.
Speaker 2: Found the sheets in the back of the, car on
the back of the.
Speaker 1: Truck, well, yeah what we're talking about is there was
A we found out that there was download hookups happening
in the area, parks and people would back in to
indicate that they were they turn they turned their cruising lights, on,
right And i'm. Ready so we decided we would, go
and we would because we saw a lot of this on,
craigslist people talking about their hooks up in the. Park
and we decided who is going to be, hotter me Or.
Tommy and the way we would determine who was hotter
is who can, attract who track the, most or who
would get somebody the. Fastest and a, guy shirtless guy
rolled up on a bicycle To tommy like it's like
thirty five degrees, out like there was like a little
smoke pell he was not. Shirtless he was in a
short sleeve.
Speaker 2: Shirt in a short sleeve shirt And spandex BIKE. Spanx yeah,
right just looking to get his rocks.
Speaker 1: Off yeah. Yep then another guy hit On. Phil and
that's the guy that always made ME i felt bad
about because that guy said Because phil said to, Him
i'm waiting for my. Wife he, goes, HEY i want
to take a, Walk and it was an older, gentleman
would you like to take a walk in the? Woods
would you like to it sounds so fucking. Creepy would
you like to take a walk because they had paths and,
Stuff And phil, said oh, No he, goes uh, Uh
i'm married and he held up his hand like that
to show the, ring and the other, guy the older
man goes, simp so AM I and Then phil, said,
no my wife's on our. Way we're gonna walk the
dogs in the, park WHICH i thought was like really
quick thinking on his, part BECAUSE i think some people
might get really. Nervous but that WAS I i remember
BECAUSE i saw the. GUY i THINK i was Watching.
Speaker 2: Phil yeah you, were you were like perched up.
Speaker 1: Top, YEAH i was. SOMEWHERE i was BECAUSE i watched
this whole, thing AND i remember see.
Speaker 2: Taping it WAS, i, yes you were. Taping we had
to take the video down because people got.
Speaker 1: UPSET i don't remember. That, yeah, REALLY jt made us
take the.
Speaker 2: Video he thought it was, brilliant but he made us
take the video that we put it on the website
Because phil, goes, yeah listen TO.
Speaker 1: Cmf expo some gays On.
Speaker 2: Tuesday so the, Label so the label on the website
made it sound, like you, know we were like just
bashing people for for being. Gay that was we were
talking about finding people, undercover you know At Genesee Valley.
Speaker 1: Park, no we weren't even trying to, expose not even exposing.
People there was my.
Speaker 2: Camera you had like one of those like, yeah, special
you could tape with your cell. Phone they had these
special cameras that we were able to, use but handheld,
cameras you're able to tape. Stuff you, Know you've been
able to tape thirty minutes of. Video and you were
Taping phil getting picked, up, right and then you drove By,
phil gave him a thumbs up like you were proud of,
them and then drove off because you lived around the
corner And phil sat in.
Speaker 1: GUESH i was over in. PICTURE i don't. Remember, yeah
this was this was, oh, yeah this was in The pittsford.
Area this was in oh it was, yeah because we're
doing different. Mills, yeah we were doing different. PARKS i
used to go running through there AND i would see
out all. Right but the point, was, YEAH i wasn't
to expose anybody or even make fun of. Them it
was honestly to see what BECAUSE i always, said, uh
you should be flattered if someone of the same sex
hits on you, that because that's like real, flattery, right
you kind of. Know and remember there was the kid
upstairs who SAID i was his old older man. Crush, yeah,
yeah he was in the he was in the.
Speaker 2: Military and then they did a bit where he was
going to, Massage, uh somebody in the off was It
moose or somebody like with like ky jelly or.
Speaker 1: Something, okay, yeah and then he wanted but he came
in and.
Speaker 2: He told you you were his.
Speaker 1: Crush. Yeah, yeah you're my older man crushed is what he.
Said and he was, Yeah AND i, Said i'm. Flattered
AND i think everybody THOUGHT i was going to get
super uncomfortable and stuff BECAUSE i had talked about being
molested or, whatever AND i wasn't uncomfortable at. ALL i
actually found it. Flattery so when we went out to the,
park it wasn't it wasn't to necessarily. MOCK i guess
you could in some way say you weren't there for good, intentions,
okay but we were there to see who was, hotter
who's gonna get hit? ON i. DIDN'T i don't remember
the video part of, that AND i know the camera
you're talking, about And i'm vaguely, remember BUT i don't
even remember that getting up on the website or any of. That.
Ship that's that's kind of bad because you wouldn't want
to expose somebody that. Way that's like your, boy you're
opening yourself up to a. Lawsuit BUT i felt bad
for the old guy BECAUSE i remember seeing this really
like he just looked like a happy, grandpa well, dressed
looked like he had, money had a nice. Car he is,
retired probably living living his best life once in a
while getting his ball streamed in the. Woods that's ALL
i was. Saying it's happened from maple zyrum to use.
It But i'm, like oh, Man SO i felt bad
BECAUSE i AS i looked at, it AND i and
you know, ME I i JUST i think things, sometimes
MAYBE i think differently than other. People BUT i thought about.
IT i, go, boy this poor guy could never be
truly who he is because it was not accepted by.
Society so you went with the societal. Norms you got,
Married you stayed and stayed and stayed until you get
to a point in your life where you, go who
gives a fuck? ANYMORE i gotta be, ME i GOTTA
i gotta live my. Life and yet now there's a
wife and you, know and a forty year marriage and
careers and kids and colleges and family memories and all
this shit that you you're playing with. Kerosene. Motherfucker in my,
mind you, know in your parents and that would be
something that could really destroy and you could bring something.
Home yeah, right bring a disease. Home and you don't
want to do that. Either, anyway that's all the stuff we.
Did let's bring these bits. Back. WELL i think that
what you're doing at the courthouse was. Fun it. WAS
i thought those were. Funny it was because you would
ask a bunch of random questions like you know how
many what's heavier pound of bricks a pound of? Wood,
yeah all these silly little. Things and then the last
thing would be what you're doing at the courthouse and
we'd have to guess were they there to support somebody
who was in? Court were they there to answer a?
Charge and what was the third? Thing so we always
had a.
Speaker 2: Third child support was always child aliphon he was always
a big. One or custody that was always.
Speaker 1: Something oh got. It you would get some of the
most oh.
Speaker 2: Gosh and then and then the other game they like
was child. Support price is? Right the best was with like.
Speaker 1: Oh child oh, god there was a fucking. Fight, yeah
remember the guys sort fights all the.
Speaker 2: Time because WHAT i would do IS i WOULD i
would manipulate the. GAME i go, okay say you got
it like the first guy who called.
Speaker 1: Would all, right this is my dumb, idea and it, was,
yes so if you're paying child, support, right and so
we would give you a. Price if you were willing
to do, This you come, on and you have to
tell us how much you're, paying either, monthly, week bi
weekly or? Monthly, right how much you? Pay and then
what do we have to? Do they did give us the, no, no, no,
no THAT'S i got it. Wrong, yes you had to
tell us when you, paid, weekly bi weekly or, monthly,
right how many kids you, had and how long you
were married for and what your job. Is, yes and
then out of that we would we would guess how
much you're. Paying listeners would guess how much you think
without going, over without going? Closer what was?
Speaker 2: This so we give the first guy the tickets because
he was the, subject and then the other three had
to battle it out like it was the price is.
Right so the two, guys the one whoever, won would be.
Happy the guy who was on first would be. Happy
the other two guys would be swearing at each. Other
go come, on that's, bullcrip because you know What i'd
pay it, Right AND i got six. Kids and you know,
what that's BULL i, MEAN i had to KEEP i
had to hit the dump button so many times because
these guys would be like m f at each.
Speaker 1: Other Oh, GOD i forgot about this because we brought.
Speaker 2: It we brought their res attention that morning show boot.
Camp we, said, hey we took it up to another.
Level you leave everybody out on the line and they
all start swearing at each.
Speaker 1: Other we did some interesting things back. Then, yeah that's interesting.
Things all, Right, well, UH i got one more for.
You all, right we'll take a. BREAK i GOT i got.
ONE i this is a it's a it's a. Dilemma
it's A maral. Dilemma this is really A maral. Dilemma
and AND i am pulling it out of a current.
Situation But I'm i'm curious as to how you would
see this versus How i'm not even sure HOW i see.
It i'm not SURE i understand, it But i'm not
sure THAT i can actually wrap my endorsement around. It so,
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Speaker 6: Com go, ahead what was the show that, like uh
said that we're doing bits from twenty years?
Speaker 1: Ago i'm not telling, You, Okay i'm not telling. Me
it doesn't. Matter, well why why why is this eating
at your? Brain i'm just? Curious why is it eating
at your? Brain i'm just. Curious, funny it's fucking. Funny,
Yeah i'll tell y'all off. Air and it's not who
you think it. Is this is Sax. Squatch we had
somebody in the studio earlier this week who saw Sax.
Squatch guy just put on a cost and went out
in the whist start of the pandemic and started playing
songs with packing. Tracks now he's. Selling he's selling out small.
Clubs it's like fucking, outrageous.
Speaker 2: Brilliant It sometimes the, smallest the superst ideas are the
best ideas on.
Speaker 1: Er why is this bothering you so? Much? Curious, no
it's bogging you BECAUSE i can tell what it. Is,
oh it's not. Bugging i'm.
Speaker 3: Curious who's the show who's The because IF i say,
something IF i, LIKE i could throw out any random,
name And i'm thinking That.
Speaker 1: I'll be ninety percent accurate if you, go oh, yeah those,
guys that's What i'm.
Speaker 2: Sinking, YEAH i would BECAUSE i, KNOW i, know and
there was no show that, touchdowns all.
Speaker 1: Right AND i don't say that to be. ARROGANT i
say that because it's the. Truth all.
Speaker 2: RIGHT i still have people coming up to be telling me, today, yeah.
Speaker 1: How much they missed that. Show it was a great.
Show it. Was it was a really good, show and
it's it's a wonderful thing to have had, that and
it's wonderful for people to recognize. THAT i think that's really.
Awesome BUT i think it's fun to do this once a.
Month i'm like really excited about. IT i really. Am but,
look if you can't tell ME i really want to
go to the, courthouse well that's What i'm, Saying, like
if you can't get to the Christ Vice president of
The United States Bill, clinton now there is going to
be a piece of me now THAT i As i'm
older and STUFF i. GO i don't want people to
think like we're mocking the ignorance of, people AND i
guess we are in a. Way all we're doing is
sticking a.
Speaker 2: Mic it's it's, like there's a viral video going around
about the education Of. America somebody went down a spring
break because spring break has been going on this past
week and next, week, okay and they're interviewing women who
are in, college asking them, basic basic questions and they
can't answer them. Properly they're basic Governmental like this is
like ten o'clock in the. Morning they're on a.
Speaker 1: Beach did you ever hear of a? Hangover they're like giglin.
Speaker 2: Laughing if you're, hungover, man you're not out of the.
Speaker 1: Beach girl? Break can you give a pretty girl? Break it's, Bad,
billy it's.
Speaker 2: Bad so, like, look if you can't answer some basic, questions.
Speaker 1: It kind of just you, know we never really used.
Speaker 2: It remember they made it like hand him like disclosure.
Speaker 1: Sheets they had a, Sign.
Speaker 2: Yeah we're not gonna use your, name but could you
sign this, place which was so.
Speaker 1: Stupid oh, well they were covered of the. DRAFT i.
Don't it was an interesting time because people were getting
tagged for different. Stuff you, know there were things that
were once deemed okay and then double On tandra to
talk about a blowjob or sex or some kind of
insertion which is banned by THE fcc to talk about
on radio unlessons for educational or. Purposes, RIGHT i think
like you could get a Doctor ruth to do something
because it was more clinical or. Doctor what was the Show? Drew,
Yeah drew did the uh what was the name of that?
Show it was a late night, show lone yea Love, life,
right so they got it they could get away with.
It and then ALSO i Think loveline was on during
what's called what was the Blue, zone which was after ten.
Pm i'm pretty sure you could Almost.
Speaker 2: Yeah between ten and, six you could get away with saying.
Speaker 1: YEAH i think it was five.
Speaker 2: Six you want to know why WHEN i work With
beth And chet they were on at five and he
goes And check, goes, Hey, beth we could swear until six.
Speaker 1: O'clock oh, okay Because i's a.
Speaker 2: Joke he wouldn't do, That Check walker And Beth adams
would never do.
Speaker 1: That but that was that was a. JOKE i really
thought it was ten of. Five well, whatever BUT i
like this and don't let, that don't let that this
is a.
Speaker 2: Bother i'm just curious of who it, is BECAUSE i
would love to make fun of their. Shows i'm pretty
sure there's only so many there's always so many pins
left standing from our.
Speaker 1: Era so that's Why i'm kind of, like, well this
pin isn't exactly standing this this this. Pin if we're
going to refer to the person as a, pin it's.
Wobbled it's wobbled a. Lot, oh it's. Wobbled it's not
it's not who you think it. Is, OKAY i don't
think you even know this person on a personal. Level, Okay,
Yeah ord just got back to me AND i was, like,
okay now he still did it for a, while and
THEN i was, like, yeah maybe, RIGHT i just slowed.
DOWN i don't. KNOW i want to bring it. Back.
Though they're. FUN i like. FUN i love, FUN i
love having. FUN i love all this. Stuff but here's
kind of a serious. Thing h end of life and the.
Life you've got a loved one and they are just.
Miserable their body's deteriorating and, deteriorating and they say to, You, danny,
yeah pull the plug or in any way that you
can get me someone who can just let me drift
off and be. Gone, oh my father was like begging for. It,
yeah AND i think a lot of times too yet
enough morphine to choke everybody in the, room, Right so
and a lot of times still up to morphine just
to give you a. Pieceful he was still, going, yeah,
right so that's what here's the oxy cotton will do to,
you by the, way you build up a. Tolerance.
Speaker 2: Yeah my, father, well he had a surgery in ninety
nine or two thousand and, four like he's rotator cuff
and they, go, heir try these pain pills and he
just kept taking them for a. Year we had no
idea the, effect none of. Us we thought they were pain.
Pills we didn't know what oxyconton. Was nobody did, right,
right it was hill billy, heroin and.
Speaker 1: He was hilly. Heroin it is so. True so but
would you be you be okay with someone realizing like
they're never going to be the person they. Were this
is and And i'm saying, That i'm asking this because
you have a strong, faith very very strong, faith and
you're a very you're very devote to, that, right you're
devoted to. That, YES i shouldn't say, devote you're. DEVOTED
i Trust. Christ, Yes so all things in. Time but if,
that if you're watching, THIS i, mean would you be
okay in a way if someone SAID i need to
it's so, PAINFUL i. Can't i'll give you an. EXAMPLE i.
Speaker 2: WOULD i would pray for a quick. EXIT i would
have a tough. Time now here's the. Thing if there
was a D nr situation right WHERE i do not
resuscitate is. Different, yeah that's like if you go, under
don't try to like pound on my chest to bring me. Back, Right,
okay that's not a suicide. Situation that is like that
is just you, know letting the Body.
Speaker 1: Dan can you say unlive? Themselves, yeah that's a big. Thing. Now,
well because you can't say suicide on social, media they flag. It,
YEAH i. Know so the people say unlive. Themselves it's
just sounds so weird.
Speaker 2: Alive but as far as like actually like speeding the,
Process i'd have a tough time doing.
Speaker 1: That in, FACT i. Wouldn't, Okay, OKAY i go to
my Sister. Steph your. Turn Well i'll give you an
example of somebody THAT i have heard people talk about
as though it were an unliving themselves, situation AND i.
DISAGREE i think that this person could just see long
term what was going to, happen and that Is Robin,
williams and he Had louis body, disease which is, awful
and Or louis body, Dementia louis body, dementia WHICH i
think your whole body. Forgets it's like it's Like.
Speaker 2: Alzheimer's Accept alzheimer's will kill you a lot quicker Than
louis body. Davenia right, NOW i, believe oh, Gosh Ched
turner has it right, now. Okay And sophia from The Golden,
girls remember, her the Old. Lady, yeah she died of.
That they went to visit her before a year before she.
Died she didn't remember who any of them were and
still lingered another.
Speaker 1: Right AND i don't think That, robin who was probably
one of the most prolific charismats that you have ever,
seen and when he was on cocaine it was even,
wilder you. Know And Bobby, slayton WHO i just showed
my son a bit Of bobby's THAT i think COULD
i Texted, BOBBY i, GO i just found a piece
of you on YouTube from twenty five years. Ago AND
i think this shit still holds. Up it's like so
relatable and Even jamison was, laughing and it was certainly
not aimed to. Him it was more about married couples
and blah blah blah. Blah but it was his whole.
Style and he would say to you all the time
that there was something About, robin Because robin was accused
of ripping off other, comics and he, goes he didn't
like write down in your. Joke he just absorbed so
much stuff that when he, started he would just be
spitballing and he, GOES i REMEMBER i was doing AN
hbo special AND i, Go, robin don't do this. Joke or,
no Maybe robin was doing it and he did the
joke on AN hbo special and he's like he just he.
Goes you couldn't even really get mad at, him but people.
Were but my point with this is that he was
going downhill and it's an awful way to. Go AND
i don't think that you want to be remembered that.
WAY i would also think. This you don't want to
be a burden to. Somebody you don't want to have
somebody wiping your, ass you. KNOW i, mean there is
the letting go when when people say you have to
let go let go of. Things let. Go you're literally,
letting literally letting go of everything in your life as
you approach the. End your ability to get to the,
bathroom your ability to shower. Yourself you're gonna have somebody.
Else sometimes it's a stranger that's going to be showering.
You you got to let that. Off that's real, pride
that's real. Humiliation AND i think for some people that it's, like,
No i'm not doing that, right so you unlive. Yourself,
well here's the situation where it's, different the results the.
SAME i think they don't know, exactly but there is
a guy who was a football coach in a small
TOWN i believe in The, south and he was accused
OF i don't know that he ever had physical, contact
But i'm pretty sure he sent text of his junk
to a sixteen year old at the school and it
was being talked about around the library table and somebody overheard,
it and SO i don't know how if they got
a hold of. IT i don't know if there was
proof of. This, so, yeah the headline is, missing excuse,
me it Was virginia sends The south Missing virginia football
Coach Travis turner allegedly sexted explicit photos to a sixteen
year old. Girl he's forty, six married father of, three
and allegedly sent the, DISTURBING x rated messages over a
three month. Stretch he was the head coach at a high.
School first came the, accusation then police became. Involved, okay
he has been missing Since november of twenty twenty. Five. Missing.
Okay last scene walking into the woods with a. Gun
you think he became the.
Speaker 2: Sasquatch, Nopeophone, okay that's why he went to a gorilla
costuo started playing the.
Speaker 1: Sacks, nope, okay, nope.
Speaker 2: You think he he probably alive to.
Speaker 1: Himself that's What i'm. Thinking that's What i'm. Thinking that
makes the most. Sense but hang, On, however according to this,
article that the day he did, that the police were
on their way to his. HOUSE i believe to arrest.
Speaker 7: Them i'm pretty sure that the WAY i read the,
article it said that. Disappeared, okay the.
Speaker 1: Forty six my father have vanished late late last year
as they were on the way to grill him over
child porn and exploitation. Accusations that so they were Allegedly
that makes it sound like he knew they were, coming
and they were on their way, now and he just
went into the. Woods how would he know they were.
Coming they usually don't call for an. Invite, yeah somebody
tip them off. Inside so here's here's here's my. Question
if you are in this, situation AND i would never
endorse on a live in, YOURSELF i would, think well,
ME i GUESS i just did by saying if you're
at the very. End but if you're an able, bodied
a forty something year old father of three kids who's
the esteemed high school football, COACH i wouldn't encourage you
to go on alive. Yourself, however this is an accusation
that could absolutely have you lose everything in your. Life
and WHEN i say, EVERYTHING i mean your kids may
never talk to you. Again, right there's a. Chance, yeah,
definitely your, Wife you're gonna wind up going through a.
Divorce everybody's gonna find out about it because it's a small,
town your, parents everybody's, there and you're just in that,
moment the police are on their way and you go
into the, woods And i'm, thinking like you, said he
was tipped. Off but it wouldn't surprise me if there
was somebody who just really liked this. Guy another like
a police. Officer that's a small.
Speaker 2: Town one of the police officers may have been someone
who grew up with.
Speaker 1: Him oh it could, be or it could also be
somebody on his coaching staff call him up and, go, hey,
MAN i just want to let you know they're on the.
Way and what if he said to this guy because he,
vanished it's impossible to. Vanish how far could he have? Gone,
well it's impossible to just. VANISH i, mean it'd be
nice if this guy, was you, know down trying to
get some sixteen year old tail In brazil or. Something right,
Now well look at, That but, NO i don't think
that it was last seeing with the, gun and no one.
Knows So i'm wondering if he said to the police, Officer, hey,
Listen i'm going up to the tree stand in the,
woods he, goes And i'm gonna unlive. Myself they're gonna
be looking on the. Ground they're not going to find.
Me come get my, Body come get. Me EVENTUALLY i
would find. Me they haven't so unless it was so,
cold but It's, virginia they haven't had you know WHAT i. Mean, yeah,
right so you come get me and just just get
rid of. Me just get rid of. ME i want to.
Disappear i'm leaving the. Planet would you do? It? No, See,
NO i THINK i. MIGHT i might. Go, YEAH i get,
IT i get. It this is a tough one to deal.
With you would lose. Everything it would be. Hard could lose.
Speaker 2: Everything, No, dan the odds are you. Would but it's
not what a hundred you.
Speaker 1: Need if your name smeared to the, mud your kid's
getting teased at, school all this, shit it's not like
they're not going to if you're. Gone, well, no you
might get a little. Sympathy you might GET i, know
your dad, Disappeared LIKE i know this, stuff BUT i
don't believe it, happened you know What i'm. Saying, yeah
if there's a trial and there's, proof all of a,
sudden it's kind of puts a whole. Thing. Now the
bad part is that allegedly the parents of the, girl
the family are saying this was going on and the
school pushed it off so they could get through the.
Playoffs that's that's that's totally, yeah that makes total. Sense
The Southern.
Speaker 2: School, yes, YES i think they're going to put this
off until we, lose they said something, like.
Speaker 1: WELL i, mean, dude that's what happened At. Michigan yes
With Corona. Moore, yeah can just get through the.
Speaker 2: Season because as soon as they lost To Ohio, state
all of a, sudden Prominent michigan alumni in, media we're getting, Texts, oh,
yeah this is this is going to get.
Speaker 1: Ugly, yeah but like what they're, like what are you talking? About? Now,
look there are people that are are called. Maps do
you know what a map?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 1: Yeah you? Do what is?
Speaker 2: It they're called minor attracted.
Speaker 1: Persons right, NOW i have Said i'm not sure that
this guy was a minor attracted, person and and just
on on the. DEFENSE a lot of times it doesn't
say he worked at the, school doesn't say. That but
many it's like a teacher who also picks up some.
COACHING a lot of times in, football it's the gym, guy,
right the gym. Teacher, NOW i remember a high school
gym teacher saying to, me AND i was an, adult
that he's, like you gotta be really careful he, goes
because like if you're sitting at the edge of the
bleachers and you, know you're just checking off the attendance
while the kids go through a stretching. Container some of
the girls will come over and he, goes they actually
like put their breast like on your on your, shoulder
on your shoulder and press, in and he, Goes you've
got to be really. Careful but you can see where
some guys we're, like, god, damn, baby you're. Good you
know WHAT i. Mean that's it's. Terrible it's. TERRIBLE i.
Know i'm not trying to endorse. This i'm just saying.
That he even said you got to like really mind
your p's and q's and go back. Up you have
to back. Up but he's, like you never want to
like put yourself in a situation where you were almost
brought into something where you accidentally brushed, again reduced.
Speaker 2: The risk class all those things you have To, yeah
teach you about personal, space crazy, stuff, Right so never
be alone with the, kid so they never give them
a ride.
Speaker 1: Home my point in saying this is he may not
have been a minor attracted. PERSON a lot of times
minor attracted people are are attracted. To there there was
allegedly WHAT i, mean like a. Pedophile well that's me
you have to. Be you can be a minor attracted
person and never act on. It, OKAY i see, You
so that wouldn't be a, pedophile that's All i'm. Saying, Okay,
WELL i guarantee that you AND i know people we
don't know, it but they're minor attracted. Persons, weird but
they've never done yet whether they we wouldn't won't do? It,
yeah right now there. Are there was a thing called THE,
nambla The National association Of Man Boy. Love.
Speaker 2: YEAH i thought that was fake With South park did
an episode about.
Speaker 1: That oh, no it was. Real, YEAH i, KNOW i, know,
Yeah and they're, saying was this is? Disgusting all? Right
SHOULD i say sex before eight before it's too? Late
and they don't mean the, time, Right, Okay so that
was that was their. Thing AND i remember my dad
when he was working with the. Center he was, yeah,
yes but it was not the national, one but. Okay
and their purpose was to work with the family and
the kids that were left. Behind his friend was a
therapist or a social, worker a licensed social, worker and
he wanted to work with the kids and the family
that was left behind because all mom and dad's attention
go on the missing child and what happens in the,
home and then what happens when the kid comes. Back
and it Was Stephen stainer who at fifteen When Timothy
white was abducted by the same guy And stephen was
no longer the. Interest stephen turned them. In he had
seen himself on milk carts and, everything but the guy
had brainwashed him and bottom gifts and treated them well
other THAN i don't, Know friday, night date. NIGHT i
don't know what it was, called but you understand What i'm, saying,
right not to make light of. That but so Then
stephen comes home and it's like the family only remembers
the seven or eight year old boy that, left so
they start treating him like, that and it was a
really difficult thing for. Them and THEN i know they
were trying to study for a while And stephen wound
up being killed in a motorcycle. Accident SO i don't
that kind OF i can't study that. Now but the
minor attractive person stuff IS i have, said where if
we go with the argument that you are born this,
way whatever, way that is, right If i'm somebody who's
attracted to the same, sex right many times there are
certain religions and things that have said how. Bad that is?
Right how wrong that is my Grandmother my grandmother Was.
Catholic they did, that, Okay, oh and she was very
very vocal about all that. Stuff, now let's say you're
a minor attractive, person but you're born that. Way if
you're born to be attracted to the same sex or,
whatever and you kind of can't control, that it's just
innate in. You could The maps thing be innate in,
you but it's just so bad in society you would
fucking ruin someone like you know What i'm. Saying so
Here's i'm. NOT i don't find this. FUNNY i have
suggested this many. Times we now HAVE, ai and we
HAVE ai robots and. Things what if we gave the
maps an eight year old version that looks like an Eight.
Speaker 2: Oh, Geez.
Speaker 1: I'm, Asking AND i know this sounds, funny But i'm
asking from a very ethical. Standpoint maybe they're brilliant contributors
to society. Taxpayers are you straight? Neighbors keep their non
immaculate so? Wonderful and oh my, god have you had
their upside down pineapple cake At christmas? Time? Phenomenal i'm just,
saying never.
Speaker 2: Want to give a?
Speaker 1: Map, yes a. Robot, yes an eight year old. Robot
you got your don't, know not an eight year old
robot looks like an eight year old. Human well that's, well,
yeah will be a. Robot yeah it's not a real, person,
right it's a. Robot But i'm not saying you said
eight year old. ROBOT i not the.
Speaker 2: ROBOT i don't believe that would work BECAUSE i believe
that they, get, like like anything, else they would get
sick of that and then.
Speaker 1: Go for the real. Thing, OKAY i just.
Speaker 2: Wondering remember our first conversation about about addictions and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1: Earlier, yeah that you can't, like like his alcohol is
really a. Disease this map is really a, Disease? Billy
or is it a?
Speaker 2: Perversion? Yeah well they were born that. Way well then
you got to be born. Again AND i know people
do want to hear.
Speaker 1: That but, Hey i'm just. SAYING i, mean that was.
It that was. All that was. All that's just my.
Thought i've had that thought for a while BECAUSE i,
GO i understand the logic behind, That thank. YOU i
thought so.
Speaker 2: Too people understand the logic behind, communism but it's a
terrible idea and it's been.
Speaker 1: TESTED i don't think this is a terrible. IDEA i
think this is an idea, that with the world we
live in, today might actually be beneficial in some. FASHION
i don't. Know it's, like, hey let's give a heroin
addict some heroin because a clean. Needle, yeah because you,
KNOW i didn't say. THAT i know what you're. DOING
i know what you're.
Speaker 2: Saying it like apples to, apples.
Speaker 1: Or or if you get arrested as a, map do
we just have a prison for the maps where we, Go,
hey you want to have some fun, Today what are
you doing two? O'clock meet me over at The so
it's so. Prison weren't going to let lose a bunch
of eight year old robots and see what. Happened oh
What i'm just, saying like in, theory in, theory just, Theory,
damn that's ALL i. Mean it's like. This IF i
see a guy walking into the woods by himself with a,
Gun i'm not thinking he's going to meditate or he
could be. Hunting, yep, yep certainly the kind of going
not not a meditation, retreat but this. GUY i was just,
wondering because shame is a brutal. Emotion it, is and
this guy you would deny or whatever or, deflect but
at some point the truth catches up with. You and
the worst part to me in all of this is
his kids are left without the proverbial. Closure i'm not
sure if you really want. It you would always want
to be. Remembered AND i think that was kind of
maybe if this guy did off, himself that it was
the driving thought behind. HIM i don't want my kids
to go through.
Speaker 2: THAT i remember WHEN Oj simpson was driving down the
four h five with al colleagues Or Al collins was driving,
him and he was riding and my father said. This he,
goes this sounds. Awful i'm fourteen years old WATCHING oj
right and he got THE Nba finals in the small
box and my father, goes it might be better off
if he just did away with.
Speaker 1: Himself, YEAH i, mean can you write to undertand.
Speaker 2: The logic it sounds on paper like it makes.
Speaker 1: Sense, Yes but OH j got free and didn't see that.
Speaker 2: COMING i wonder what life would have been like had
he done.
Speaker 1: THAT i.
Speaker 2: WONDER i, mean clearly we wouldn't have never had the,
trial we would have never have had all the backlash
that went with the, trial, RIGHT i, mean then.
Speaker 1: What happens to the family of The goldberg family in
The Browns goldberg was THE tv show forgive, me but
The goldman, family, right who just by like was not,
targeted she was. Targeted he happened to be just be
there right, there you, know for whatever the thing. WAS
i don't even, think LIKE i think it was alleged
they were having an. AFFAIR i don't think there was
any of. THAT i think he was just knew her
had become friendly in some way and was bringing back
sunglass that she had. Left maybe maybe THEN i say
it out, loud MAYBE i don't think.
Speaker 2: SO i think there was something going on. There BUT
i mean because he was, very he was very somebody
said they were the most non divorced divorced couple you'd ever.
Meet but but there's a lot going on that. DAY
i remember that day, too everything that went on in
my life that, day because it was such a monumental.
Happening BUT i remember my father having that, conversation AND
i think it's okay to talk about those things and
bring them. UP i wish we would talk more about
stuff like, That as uncomfortable as it, IS i wish
we would exchange more ideas like, that to have the
freedom to discuss these. Things that doesn't MEAN i agree with,
them like that idea you just, had because that's how
we get to the bottom of better ideas instead of
just keeping them to.
Speaker 1: Ourselves that's what you're.
Speaker 2: Saying, no, No i'm SAYING i could see the, logical you.
Speaker 1: Know But i'm, saying LIKE i still like me so.
Speaker 2: Serious, no, no, no but that's BUT i wish we
could have more nuanced discussions like. That but people don't
want to have those. Conversations and and and my thing, was,
honestly if we can have that conversation on the, RADIO
i don't.
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't that we just. Did i'm not. SURE
i don't. KNOW i don't think about. THAT i don't even.
Think we don't feel like that. Anymore i'm just, thinking,
look you, know, no that's a good.
Speaker 2: Point we're talking earlier of all the stupid. Stuff we
not stupid fun. Stuff wed, yeah you, know, yes on the,
radio on the, radio and it's, like but think about
stuff you can't do.
Speaker 1: Anymore, WELL i a good, POINT i would say. That
but my my thing that originally brought this up is
if this football, coach AND i was a police officer
who knew. Him MAYBE i would tip him off and
MAYBE i would go get the body AND i WOULD
i would literally have him, disappear and it would be
a struggle for me BECAUSE i think that there's no
closure at this. Point, wow there's no.
Speaker 4: Closure i'm having a trial and all this stuff and
having get wrapped up by now would do.
Speaker 2: Process, instead we got a situation where.
Speaker 1: Well it's, guilt, RIGHT i, mean shame and, guilt or
maybe the guy just Wasn't who, Knows maybe he could
have been in a bad state of mind at that
moment and not not done, that and maybe that's not what.
Happened maybe somebody met him the pack of the. Woods he,
Goes i'm just going to bring a. Gun they're gonna
THINK i killed myself and get me out of. HERE
i have no. Idea uh, OH i, know was he?
Disappeared AND i would think most likely he did he did.
Speaker 2: That but at this, point if you're the police department
and somebody went in the, woods AND i mean then
you'd find, tracks you'd find, blood you'd find little clues
here and, there, Right so, well unless they just like
go maybe the police department was all in on.
Speaker 1: It they would come in to catch. You, yeah so
you may want to die on your. Shield yeah, right,
YEAH i mean it's almost like you, KNOW i think
there were was It japan where they would erry Carry, yeah,
Yeah Kama kazi, pops, Wow Kama kazi. Pilots but also
or was it even back In roman? Times they would
throw themselves literally with the phrase.
Speaker 2: For Yourselves saul in The bible he threw himself on his,
sword AND.
Speaker 1: I think it was very popular In roman.
Speaker 2: Times, yeah or like, well they talked about the end
Of godfather too when spoiler, alert they're sitting there With
pantagial because of visits a Jail Tom hagen and we
talked about, yeah and he goes when a.
Speaker 1: When a, uh when a coup against the emperor. Failed what?
Speaker 2: Happened oh, yeah they went, home they opened up their,
veins and often times they had a party before they did,
it and their families were taken care.
Speaker 1: Of this sounds like that could have been that kind of. Situation,
YEAH i, COULD i. Could and and sad but interesting
nonetheless to, me like just the, behind, yes not the story, itself,
no of, course, tragic the logic but the but the
the the reaction to, it it, was it was just.
DIFFERENT i hadn't really heard of, that AND i, THOUGHT
i wish that hadn't. Happened, YES i get. That you
know what a lot of people will say the difference
between sinners and saints is, behavior AND i think that
the difference between sinners and saints in real life is
one of the truth catches up and then we get
to see who's what you, know.
Speaker 2: Then we find out we're all, sinners not, Me yeah we.
Speaker 1: Are the real difference is when the truth catches up to.
You that's. All, Oh danny's always fun and good to see.
You yeah you, Too stay, strong stay focused and, There.
BILLY i like our nuanced. Conversations, YES i enjoy. That
next week we talk about, well you know, what maybe
that's the first one we do next. WEEK i could
we could do that or make up part OF. Hiv
he sounds. Dead we need to proud up the meat a.
Little oh For Dan, Morella Bill, Moran we'll see you next. Time,
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