WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.599 --> 00:00:15.359 What is going on? Clippers fans? 2 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:20.199 Welcome to season four, episode thirty five of Clips and Dip. 3 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:23.800 I am Chuck Mockler, Adam Oslind is here, William Updike 4 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:26.239 is here, and the Clippers have the. 5 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:33.000 Fifth pick in the upcoming NBA Draft. Fantastic news from Mulatto. Today, 6 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:34.320 we're gonna talk that. 7 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:35.520 Way, did that happen today? 8 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:39.079 Happened today? We're gonna talk that. We're gonna talk a 9 00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:42.520 bunch of random stuff as well. But Will Adam oh, 10 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:44.159 thank you for watching Clips and Dip. If you want 11 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:46.200 to watch us, find us at YouTube dot com sash 12 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:48.640 at Clippers podcast. You can find the podcast anywhere you 13 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:53.640 listen to them. Will how are we doing? Clips? A 14 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:55.520 good thing happened to the Clippers today? 15 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:56.520 Is it? 16 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:05.280 We're not doing that? Uh? 17 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:05.599 Yeah? 18 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:08.439 I mean like, look, we all said, uh, if this 19 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:13.719 pick was to convey five, were bust really right? 20 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:17.599 So yeah, I'm feeling pretty good. I'm feeling pretty good. 21 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:23.239 And I honestly, I mean I you can definitely cast. 22 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:26.120 Some doubts on the on the Clippers availability to draft, 23 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:29.359 but like when they have had a lottery level pick, 24 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:33.799 I think the recent track record is pretty decent. 25 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:41.439 It's like, what are the lottery picks recently with Lawrence 26 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:45.680 Frank SGA and that's it. 27 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:52.239 Yeah, one of two. One of two is an m VP, buddy. 28 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:52.920 I was telling. 29 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:55.000 Two time MVP. 30 00:01:55.640 --> 00:01:59.719 I was telling Adam. Today was the first in a 31 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:04.519 real long time that I got texts from people about 32 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:07.000 a good thing that happened to the Clippers. Usually were 33 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:11.000 I'm sure getting some form of you know, sucks to 34 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:13.080 suck type thing when the Clippers lose. But a good 35 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:16.240 thing happened, Adam, we were. We reacted live to the 36 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:19.919 fifth pick the thunder also on the wealth from the Clippers, 37 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:23.000 which is pretty sweet, but are you still riding that 38 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:26.560 high from from winning that the old five? The Fiver, 39 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:27.439 the Lincolner. 40 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:30.599 I went to the gym and had like the easiest 41 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.960 two hundred pull up workout because I was floating out there. 42 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:39.800 I was good. It was light work. No, I'm stoked. 43 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:42.520 I've just there's so much optionality, There's so many different 44 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:47.240 directions to go. Uh. But that flexibility is something everybody 45 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:50.360 covets in the NBA now, and for the Clippers to 46 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:53.240 have some, you know, I beats the zoobots once says 47 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:57.400 like the Clippers can't have nice things. They got a 48 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:00.280 real nice thing today, and partly because of a beats 49 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:03.360 the Zoobots. Who's a blessing to this franchise, and he's 50 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:06.199 gonna do great things for Indiana and Indiana. You know, 51 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:10.120 I watched some of their streams earlier today, not to 52 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:12.280 laugh at them, just to see the reaction. I have 53 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:15.759 nothing against the Pacers. I like the Pacers a lot. Haliburton, 54 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:17.719 you know, I grew up in Sacktown. I thought they 55 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:20.039 never should have trade him. India is gonna be in 56 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:21.960 good shape. They're likely a top four seed in the 57 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:26.039 Eastern Conference next year at worst when they get healthy. 58 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:28.080 So it's not the end of the world for them. 59 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:30.439 And I saw their GM came out and apologize to 60 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:34.280 the fans on Twitter, which was wild. To see something 61 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:38.919 like that. Probably tells you he has very good, strong 62 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:41.879 job security actually that he could do something like that, 63 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:44.520 and everybody's like, yeah, you know, it was worth the risk, 64 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:46.639 and we knew they still get their twenty thirty one 65 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:48.879 pick out of it. Right, It's not the end of 66 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:51.280 the world. They have a really good team, So it 67 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:56.240 beats the Zoobots in the eies. Zuo is detonating on 68 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:58.280 the Eastern Conference next year. 69 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:03.639 You mentioned the flex of ability. Joseph Ry Award sent 70 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:06.280 me some thoughts on the on the on the pick, 71 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:09.960 he said he does not want cam Boozer Fair don't 72 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:13.000 think he'll be there at five. However, a young guard 73 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:17.879 and trading Kawhi and Garland are good ideas to him. 74 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:20.680 I don't know about trading both. Will are you it's 75 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:25.240 only been six hours? Are you keep? Do you want 76 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:28.639 to keep the pick? Or do you want Lawrence Frank 77 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:31.000 to try and move something with this pick to get 78 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:34.319 a franchise guy for one last huzzah with Kawhi. We 79 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:36.000 have some trade ideas we're going to talk about too 80 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:39.920 in a second. But are you team keep wait, team 81 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:41.720 keep the pick? Yeah? Or trade? Yes? 82 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:42.800 I'm team keep the pick. 83 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:47.199 The overwhelming sentiment I've seen from Clippers fans. 84 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:47.920 Team keep the pick. 85 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:51.959 I think unless you're unless you're really feeling strongly that 86 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:54.800 you don't like like organizationally, if you if you really 87 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:57.360 don't like what you think is available at five as 88 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:00.680 a potential rebuild. Look, I mean we've about this before. 89 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:03.439 It's a zero sum game. I think to try to 90 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:06.839 get one more glory run out of quiet. And that's 91 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:10.199 to say nothing against where he's at, what he is 92 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:13.839 able to achieve. It's just like, realistically, what we can 93 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:16.399 put around him. I mean, like you look at this 94 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:18.680 league and you look at the direction it's going and 95 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:22.160 the age and sort of the speed, and. 96 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:23.879 You know, like you just look at all these things. 97 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:28.839 We're more than one piece away. And I just so, No, 98 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:33.079 I don't really see a scenario in which that pick 99 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:37.160 gives you this magical piece that somehow unlocks this a 100 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:40.560 title run out of this team as currently constructed. 101 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:46.240 I don't see it. And you seem befuddled by this. 102 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:47.160 You disagree. 103 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:54.199 No, I'm leaning towards keeping the pick the oddest stuff. 104 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:57.160 It's not like you're just giving up that pick to 105 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:06.519 get I said this, I don't care about that stuff. 106 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:11.439 That's for good players, team Dylan Brooks. I want guys 107 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:21.480 that help. Really, that's that's a hot take. I'm a fan, 108 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:25.240 But he's thirty two, and the injury history and how 109 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:27.079 much you're gonna have to give up because there could 110 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:29.240 be a major bidding war and he probably has to 111 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.199 say he wants to come to LA which seems unlikely 112 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:34.560 since he probably wants to be closer to Grease. I 113 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:36.759 just don't know how much of a possibility that is. 114 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:40.759 I was really hoping in the first round the Minnesota 115 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:43.160 Timberwolves are going to lose the Denver Nuggets and probably 116 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:45.519 should have considering all the injuries they had going on, 117 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:48.439 and maybe you can make a run in Anthony Edwards. 118 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:51.720 That's a guy I've been looking at for a couple 119 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:56.639 of seasons now, just seeing how they trend. But I 120 00:06:56.680 --> 00:06:59.319 think as long as kind of what you said there 121 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:03.000 will well if you like a guy at five, as 122 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:04.839 long as you think there's a guy there that can 123 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:08.480 be a star, then you have to take that player 124 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:09.560 in this draft, I think. 125 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:14.920 Yeah. The honest thing that gets me too is he's 126 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:17.399 got next year and then a player option, so I'd 127 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:21.000 assume he wants some kind of extension agreement to where 128 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:24.360 he's going, which terrifies me giving a thirty four year 129 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:26.319 old oh Johanness more years. 130 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:29.680 He's extension eligible now, so basically, if he doesn't get 131 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:31.920 it from Milwaukee, they know if he doesn't take it 132 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:34.240 for Milwaukee, they're trading him. 133 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:39.680 Yeah, I don't I want the excitement of a young, 134 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:45.279 fully homegrown Clippers lottery pick like I love the idea 135 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:48.399 of Wagler being there at five. We get this, we 136 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:52.680 get a larger guard to you know, maybe we don't 137 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:56.360 know the defense. I don't know if he'd be ready 138 00:07:56.360 --> 00:08:00.839 to like start just defensively. But I like the idea 139 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:02.800 of a young guy that can really be you know 140 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:04.680 what I mean, Like we'd have a we'd have a 141 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:07.120 young rook other than Janick, but this would be the 142 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:10.800 fifth pick. Like, I want Waggler, but I don't really 143 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:12.680 know who's gonna fall, because it seems like the only 144 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:16.480 for sure thing is AJ going one. 145 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:24.279 Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised though, if one of Darren Peterson, 146 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:30.319 Cam Boozer or Caleb Wilson might be there at five, 147 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:34.080 because I could see one of those guys dropping. 148 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:37.960 And I think I want Peterson if I mean, that'd 149 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:38.879 be great. Peter. 150 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:41.360 I think I don't think he's getting past Utah though, 151 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:44.039 because I don't think Danny Ainge. They took Ace Bailey 152 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:47.399 when there were concerns there, and remember his agent and 153 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:55.200 that video uncle leave his uncle. Yeah, but I don't 154 00:08:55.240 --> 00:09:00.320 know Cam. I wonder how his game translates, just because 155 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:05.159 if you're playing the four, you have to guard well 156 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:09.759 on the perimeter in today's NBA, and that's really tough. 157 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:15.240 And he's a good enough athlete, right and I don't. 158 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:17.799 Like Yeah, yeah, Joseph said boozer would be bad. 159 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:21.000 So we know that we agreed on that with Joseph 160 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:21.960 last time he was on. 161 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:24.840 Yeah, Joseph does have a direct line to Lawrence Frank. 162 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:28.600 So we will see Will what's your big board? What's 163 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:31.559 what's Updyke's big board? Who's at five for the Clippers? 164 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:35.879 Are you going Wagler? Yeah? 165 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:36.559 I like it. 166 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:40.399 I'll get the jersey, man, I don't know. We got 167 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:42.080 to make sure Carl Tart doesn't get the jersey. 168 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:49.519 Apparently it is Woggler after saying Wagler like fifty times 169 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:55.720 earlier today. But the scrapancy about that. But he didn't 170 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:58.080 have a dunk all of last year, which is a 171 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:01.120 little bit strange for a guy's sick six. And one 172 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.039 of the comps I do have for him. 173 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:05.960 Flag it feels like a red flag. 174 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:10.399 One of the comps I do see a little bit of. 175 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:14.080 Because he's not the best athlete, there's a little bit 176 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:17.399 of Kobe Sanders to his game. Now he's been getting 177 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:22.200 Halliburton SGA comps because of his size and he's still 178 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:24.639 so young. I mean, Kobe Sanders came out at twenty three. 179 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:28.159 He's nineteen. Yeah, and he's gonna put on more size. 180 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:31.000 He's not an athlete though he's not one. 181 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:36.480 He's not a great athlete. I was just told the 182 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:39.960 no dunk thing is surprising. But it's like, you can 183 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:42.679 see he could have dunked it many times and he doesn't. 184 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.559 So it's not like it's not like he can't doug. Yeah, 185 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:50.240 throw it down big man, throw down six cigar man. 186 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:55.360 But like his step back game and there's some just 187 00:10:55.440 --> 00:11:00.080 silky smooth turnaround stuff. I don't know, I do like him, 188 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:04.840 but he was he was number one point fifty in 189 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:07.879 recruit rankings going into last year. Like, he had a 190 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:10.480 meteoric rise at the end of the season, and part 191 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:12.799 of that was because of the lack of athleticism, but 192 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:15.080 he was so good and his shot ended up being 193 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:18.240 so good that now he looks like a top by pick. 194 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:24.080 We're going to do a deeper dive on these prospects, obviously, 195 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:26.279 but yeah, the the. 196 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:29.679 Heads of ESPN have U was getting woggler wogs. 197 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:32.399 I would like to point out log. 198 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:34.320 We could say that anytime he dunked on somebody, which 199 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:34.919 would be rare. 200 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:40.559 But there is as much as it is exciting, Oh 201 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:44.000 we got this new guy to build arounds, and there's 202 00:11:44.039 --> 00:11:47.879 this hope element. Well, after a season or two and 203 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:52.799 you see guys limits sometimes that could end up going 204 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:55.679 very poorly because they're not what you expected them to be, 205 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:58.159 and therefore they can hold back a franchise. So there 206 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:00.879 is a double edged sword to the only most of 207 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:02.960 you guys exactly. 208 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:05.480 And we're talking honestly, most of them will. 209 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:09.600 Be So I did this project looking at ten years 210 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:12.279 of drafts from two thousand and six to twenty sixteen, 211 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:16.919 and just in the top ten picks, only twenty five 212 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:19.399 of the one hundred guys taken in top ten over 213 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:22.720 ten years became All Stars. Like there's like a twenty 214 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:24.919 five percent chance you were getting an All Stars a 215 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.559 top ten pick, Like, there's just it is much more 216 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:31.000 of a crapshoot than everybody makes it. On draft day 217 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:34.360 or during the lottery, everybody's like everybody's gonna be great, everybody's. 218 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:37.960 Gonna be year nineteen ninety six, it's like, well, let's see, 219 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:44.240 let's chill. It's just the lotto today. 220 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:44.799 Right, we get over our skis a little. 221 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:49.080 Bit, Yes, And I do like that Wogs or whoever 222 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:51.759 comes to the Clippers is not coming as the savior. 223 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:55.039 We are not in a scenario where the pressure of 224 00:12:55.080 --> 00:13:00.759 an entire franchise is on this young player's back. You 225 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:04.480 know what I'm saying. Like it's not an a j situation, 226 00:13:04.519 --> 00:13:07.519 Like it's like you, it's you can you can learn 227 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:09.480 a little bit. We do need you to obviously become 228 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:13.399 a contributor, but you're not the number one. You're not. 229 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:15.840 Your face isn't outside the whole into a dome because 230 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:19.159 you're our only hope for to happen like an okay season. 231 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:23.720 Also, Wagler seems like a nickname that Philip Seymour Hoffman's 232 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:26.240 character would have made up in the film Boogie Nights 233 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:29.480 to impress his friend Dirk Diggler. And uh, I like 234 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:30.559 that aspect a lot. 235 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:34.320 I do like that aspect. That's a good call. The 236 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:36.960 other thing now, because Adam we talked about this a 237 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:40.440 little bit on the stream earlier, is do the Clippers 238 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:44.279 does this change the odds of Kawhi maybe being traded 239 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:46.600 because now we can kind of get into this like 240 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:55.159 ultra soft rebuild thing. ESPN had four Kawhi trade ideas 241 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:59.799 that I wanted to talk about. The first one is 242 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:04.000 one that I think we would all probably reject. Kawhi graph. 243 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:06.799 What is there an infograph? 244 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:08.440 There's not. I mean I could put the Ringer web, 245 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:10.240 I could put ESPN website up, but I don't want 246 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:14.600 to give them any free press. Kawhi to Golden State 247 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:18.519 for which would be Kawhi for Jimmy Butler a twenty 248 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:22.759 twenty seven lotto protected first round pick and a twenty 249 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:27.919 thirty two first round pick Lotto protection is crazy to. 250 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:31.879 Me on that No, no, hanging up the phone. How 251 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:34.679 many years are left on Jimmy's deal? Aren't they still? 252 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:35.559 Like three more years? 253 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:39.360 We look, But here's the thing. Just a twenty twenty 254 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:42.799 seven pick in general doesn't make much sense because if 255 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.840 they're getting Kawhi, they're going to be really good. Like 256 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.200 the lottery protection doesn't matter that much to me, because 257 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:50.159 it's not going to end up being a lottery pick 258 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:50.799 most likely. 259 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:54.039 So he has he has fifty seven million next year 260 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:57.279 and then he's unregided. He's unrestricted, so he is an expired. 261 00:14:57.159 --> 00:14:59.919 Oh okay, he's extension in his deal. 262 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:02.799 Yeah, so that would be I would not like that pick, 263 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:04.600 like you said, just it's like it's not a very 264 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:08.360 good pick in twenty twenty seven. I just died. 265 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:11.399 I would like picks further out, like the twenty thirty two. 266 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:13.159 If they have a twenty thirty I don't know what 267 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:15.759 else they have because Golden State will be taking their 268 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:16.639 medicine eventually. 269 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:19.960 Yes, agreed, Yeah, Courage assigned the two year contract. We 270 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:23.039 can assume the window is probably till about twenty twenty nine. 271 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:28.200 The other one Kawhi to Detroit, which would be Kawhi 272 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.720 plus a twenty twenty nine second round pick from Memphis 273 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:34.240 or Portland. We have like the slew of those four 274 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:40.200 Duncan Robinson, Karris LeVert, Ron Holland, the second twenty twenty 275 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:43.759 seven first round pick from Detroit, twenty twenty nine first 276 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:47.240 round pick from Detroit, and then a second round pick 277 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:50.919 via Memphis and Memphis gets Paul Reid. 278 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:55.279 That was a lot on the screen. 279 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:58.279 Yeah, this one I might need on the screen. Sorry, 280 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:02.720 we do have the cap of abilities. Everyone's going to 281 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:08.159 get to see our breakdowns, which you're very professional, so 282 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:12.600 it's highlighted there. It's I like the picks aspect of this. 283 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:14.639 It's a twenty twenty seven first round pick, which isn't 284 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:19.039 the great, but then twenty twenty nine unprotected. You guys 285 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:20.799 also have this breakdown email. 286 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.159 Still be good unless there's like right. 287 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:25.960 Or something that year. Why can't I find it? 288 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:27.000 Did you send it to him? 289 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:28.679 I'm serious. 290 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:31.519 It has shared with two people. I'm sharing it on 291 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:34.000 the screen. You guys have editor permissions. 292 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:35.919 I'm glad you gave everyone our emails. 293 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:46.200 Now you have editor permissions. Yeah, this I don't know. 294 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:49.399 And like Duncan Robins, it's it's again, it's it's probably 295 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:51.039 not the best the best package. 296 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:55.039 I just don't love those two first round picks. They're 297 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:57.240 going to be late first round picks. With Detroit. They 298 00:16:57.240 --> 00:17:02.960 have Kate Cunningham and he's twenty four. Yes, I don't look. 299 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:04.000 I don't hate it. 300 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:07.119 Of course, but it's not It doesn't feel like a oh, 301 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:08.759 they gotta do this one. 302 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:11.400 Yeah, I'm not compelled. I'm not moved. 303 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:19.559 Adam is unmoved, Kawhi to Houston, Kawhi and Brook for Alprin, Sengoon, 304 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:22.240 Reed Shepherd and Steven Adams. 305 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:24.240 That's a no for me. 306 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:27.480 I want no part of having Darius Garland and Reed 307 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:31.839 Shepherd on the same team that it's you're the guard 308 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:35.279 rotation is brutal defensively. 309 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:38.200 And like, I I don't want Alprinsting Singun on my team. 310 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:40.480 I like, I love watching him play basketball, but there's 311 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:42.680 like a hard ceiling on what you can do with 312 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:45.680 that kind of center in the playoffs. 313 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:46.799 You're not wrong. 314 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:52.400 I'm higher on Shngoon than that, but I just don't like. 315 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:55.839 Two point zero like it, dude, It's like the same thing. 316 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:59.240 If you're not a good defensive center, I don't think 317 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:00.240 that you can go very far. 318 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:07.240 Yeah, I just well tell me this, like is going 319 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:10.720 to be able to hit three pointers? Because if he 320 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:13.640 can play power forward next to Yannick, I'm feel a 321 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:14.240 little bit better. 322 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:17.359 How much power forward is you played? 323 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:22.640 But there's no there's no draft pick there there's no Yeah, well. 324 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:23.920 That's what I'm saying. You have to be in love 325 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:26.079 with the player haul on that, and I'm I'm just not. 326 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:27.359 Yeah, no, that's fair. 327 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:32.400 And then the final option Kawhi to Miami, which would 328 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:34.559 which I can see. Miamis said they're going to try 329 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:36.960 and make a push for like any superstar possible. 330 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:41.319 They have telegraph things. They're helping the business. 331 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:43.519 Yeah, they're the opposite of the Clippers, where they're like, 332 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:46.039 there's no leaks because we are telling you exactly what 333 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:50.640 we're going to try and do. Anton Kawhi and Chris Dunn. 334 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:55.200 So Joseph Haardi likes it for Tyler Hero Andrew Wiggins 335 00:18:55.559 --> 00:19:00.559 twenty thirty unprotected first, twenty thirty two unprotected first. 336 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:06.880 Did you've seen Tyler Heroes contract? I don't know. Tyler 337 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:12.359 Hero with back, I think you'd have to move Darius 338 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:15.000 Garland if you do this, well, I don't know if 339 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:15.960 I like him. 340 00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:19.319 He's on a he's an Expiring Heroes in Expiring. 341 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:23.200 Oh, so he's due, he's he. 342 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:25.519 Makes thirty three million next year, and then he's unrestricted 343 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:27.000 in twenty seven eight. 344 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:30.680 So you get the privilege of either like re signing 345 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:32.200 him or just letting him walk. 346 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:35.359 And and A twenty thirty unprotected first and A twenty 347 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:37.000 thirty two unprotected first. 348 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:40.799 Twenty thirty that's kind of spicy. 349 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:42.160 That's not bad. 350 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:47.039 It's kind of spicy. Thing is that heat are so unpredictables? 351 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:47.880 Isn't terrible? 352 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:51.400 Like this is like, yeah, they are. 353 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:54.960 They're a team though that would like those could end 354 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:57.759 up both being like the fourteenth pick both pigs. 355 00:19:58.000 --> 00:19:59.599 Yeah, exactly, you can move. 356 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:03.480 Not go to bottom out. They're not that type of franchise. 357 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:09.440 And we also have to consider the new draft rules coming, yes, 358 00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:14.720 like if they're flattening things to this degree trying to 359 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:16.880 gauge whether or not how high of a pick it 360 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:21.839 could be when everybody is going to have the same odds, Yeah, 361 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:23.680 that completely changed the equation. 362 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:25.200 Oh yeah. 363 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:28.519 Also the heat being in the getting a lottery pick 364 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:30.759 this year was the first time in seven years. 365 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:36.000 That's crazy. Yeah, so none of I none of these 366 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:40.240 are like, none of these are make the deal right now. 367 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:43.960 Like honestly, if you just worked it, the Warriors. 368 00:20:43.559 --> 00:20:46.559 Would be willing to to like tinker with that, like 369 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:50.759 the future lot of situation. Like, well, that's just kind 370 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:52.880 of interesting because those picks are the most attracted to me. 371 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:55.200 But you bringing up the flattening of the lottery odds 372 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:56.799 also kind of throws a wrench in the whole. 373 00:20:56.599 --> 00:20:58.880 Time because it's also like the Clippers kind of put 374 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:00.680 the screws to the Pacers when it came to the 375 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:04.440 pick protections because the Pacers wanted it full lot of protected. 376 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:09.000 It no deal, no deal Warriors. 377 00:21:09.880 --> 00:21:13.480 If the Warriors instead of going twenty twenty seven, they 378 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:17.480 own their twenty twenty nine pick, if you went twenty 379 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:24.160 twenty nine and twenty thirty two, I'd be interested, Yeah. 380 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:28.079 I would be all right with that. The heat one 381 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:28.799 is intriguing. 382 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:32.119 But I want khalil ware from them. 383 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:36.200 Yeah. Yeah, But they love him, don't they do? 384 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:39.480 They know he's good and has the kind of weird. 385 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:40.640 Like I feel like he had such a good start 386 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:42.160 to the season and then he just kind of kind 387 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:47.359 of disappeared. The other the only other rumor right now, 388 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:54.880 per Brett Siegel, who's never wrong, was reporting Cam Johnson 389 00:21:54.920 --> 00:22:01.680 to the Clippers with sure Klai, no, not for Kwhy 390 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:07.440 let me see if I can find Cam Johnson bread. 391 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:13.160 All right, he's expiring after this year. 392 00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:15.079 He's expiring. 393 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:16.839 Twenty three million. 394 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:20.200 Yeah, so like I don't know, sign and trade or 395 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:24.440 whatever or you do the hell because I don't know 396 00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:27.359 if they do a hard reset, because you could trade, 397 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:32.200 like I mean, Bogie and Brooke. It's two expirings. 398 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:33.640 Why is Denver doing this? 399 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:38.279 No, That's what I'm saying. I don't know. Seagull stress 400 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:44.000 may potential move is hinged on Leonard, But if the 401 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:46.240