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<v Speaker 1>One thing about this gene is the invisible and tangibles

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<v Speaker 1>that they have.

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<v Speaker 2>This team is really becoming a family.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's not play one on Tom. Let's win this.

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<v Speaker 4>I love writing me these guys after the show. So

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<v Speaker 4>just thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Give me all your attention, your fire, and not a pisson.

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<v Speaker 6>This is world champion, Dodger, world championing for a small

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<v Speaker 6>soft time.

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<v Speaker 5>They get up people what they want to die to

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<v Speaker 5>A row two is special.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, yeah, it's not a headache.

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<v Speaker 5>One of them. Come, this ball's gone. You ready to go?

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<v Speaker 5>Hell time go to the South.

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<v Speaker 6>Grab your phone to get in on the show called

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<v Speaker 6>eight six six nine eighty seven two five seven.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll go to the show.

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<v Speaker 6>And now your host of Dodger Talk, David.

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<v Speaker 5>Vasse, our second Dodger Talk of the night. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 5>postgame Dodger Talk. The Dodgers hold on for a seven

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<v Speaker 5>to five win in thirteen innings at City Field over

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<v Speaker 5>the Mets. Bad night in New York. The Yankees lost

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<v Speaker 5>to the Rockies, the Knicks lost again to the Pacers,

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<v Speaker 5>They're down two in the Eastern Finals, and the Mets

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<v Speaker 5>losing thirteen innings to the Dodgers. Tonight, seven to five,

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<v Speaker 5>So great, Sorry Gotham, bad night for you tonight, and

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<v Speaker 5>a great night for the West Coast, the best coast,

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<v Speaker 5>the Dodgers holding on for a seven to five win

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<v Speaker 5>in thirteen innings. We have phone lines open at eight, six, six, nine,

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<v Speaker 5>eighty seven, two, five seventy. We're with you until eleven

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<v Speaker 5>thirty tonight on this beautiful Friday night in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know if the Dodgers would have lost this game,

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<v Speaker 5>we would have a full border calls right now. But somehow,

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<v Speaker 5>some way, the phone lines are wide open. We had

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<v Speaker 5>a full border calls for an hour and thirty eight

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<v Speaker 5>minutes this afternoon on raind Lay Dodger Talk and it

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<v Speaker 5>was a great show. It was electric. We kept people accountable.

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<v Speaker 5>We had a great pizza recommendation, and then we had

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<v Speaker 5>another pizza expert call in and really give us some

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<v Speaker 5>high end recommendation. So if you miss that show, you

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<v Speaker 5>can find it on the iHeartRadio app. But usually when

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<v Speaker 5>we do that long of a raind Lay Dodger Talk

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<v Speaker 5>show and it's this late at night on the East Coast,

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<v Speaker 5>we usually say, you know what, just go back to

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<v Speaker 5>the iHeartRadio app and listen to the show there, But

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<v Speaker 5>tonight had so many twists and turns and intriguing plays

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<v Speaker 5>that I felt like we needed to talk about it

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<v Speaker 5>after the game. And even Jose Mota feels that way.

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<v Speaker 5>Jose Mota is going to join us at eleven fifteen,

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<v Speaker 5>and before we get into the wackiness of the ninth

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<v Speaker 5>inning and other things. You know, the Dodgers won this game,

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<v Speaker 5>but it came at a price, a high price. And

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<v Speaker 5>it wasn't just because Tenor Scott blew the save in

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<v Speaker 5>the ninth inning. It was because of the rain. They

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<v Speaker 5>knew rain was in the forecast. We have seen so

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<v Speaker 5>many times when the Dodgers are on the East Coast

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<v Speaker 5>where Major League Baseball and the teams agree, you know what,

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<v Speaker 5>instead of burning your starting pitchers, both Mets and Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 5>As recently as the last road trip in Atlanta, where

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<v Speaker 5>we waited three hours before our first pitch was thrown,

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<v Speaker 5>we could have done the same thing tonight. Rain had

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<v Speaker 5>been talked about. Going back to last week, the sports

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<v Speaker 5>Net LA crew is debating do we go straight to Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 5>do we go to New York? There might be a

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<v Speaker 5>doubleheader because of rain on Friday. Well here it was

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<v Speaker 5>rain on Friday and they said, go ahead, start the game.

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<v Speaker 5>Well they started the game in the third inning. The

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<v Speaker 5>Skies opened up for an hour and thirty eight minutes,

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<v Speaker 5>which burned both Clayton Kershaw and Griffin Canning. The Mets

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<v Speaker 5>bullpen has not been as taxed as the Dodgers. We

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<v Speaker 5>all know that, so this was more costly to the

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<v Speaker 5>Dodgers that they had to cover at the time at

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<v Speaker 5>were going to have to cover ten innings for a

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<v Speaker 5>thirteen inning game. And after Kershaw was stopped because of rain,

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<v Speaker 5>Matt Sower came in to pitch three innings. He did well,

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<v Speaker 5>gave up one and running three innings. Ben Caspirius has

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<v Speaker 5>been a star since last World Series, and tonight no different.

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<v Speaker 5>Three no hit innings for Caspirius with six strikeouts. He

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<v Speaker 5>with a three run lead, and Tanner Scott blew another save.

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<v Speaker 5>Now I will say this the last game that Tanner

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<v Speaker 5>Scott saved. I don't know what's going on, but I

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<v Speaker 5>rarely see a reliever warm up with one of those

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<v Speaker 5>sleeves on their pitching arm. He took it off when

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<v Speaker 5>he came into the game, and I couldn't see him

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<v Speaker 5>in the bullpen tonight. And also, Tanner Scott has now

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<v Speaker 5>pitched in three games in the last four days. That's

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<v Speaker 5>usually the limit, and we probably won't see him until

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<v Speaker 5>Monday at the earliest in Cleveland. The reality is, and

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<v Speaker 5>I go back to my conversation with Elvis Andrews in Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>Elvis Andrews, as you know, one of the longtime great Rangers,

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<v Speaker 5>a right handed hitter that faced Tanner Scott when he

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<v Speaker 5>was just emerging coming up with the Orioles and dabbling

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<v Speaker 5>with the Marlins. Elvis and Andrews faced him, and we

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<v Speaker 5>were standing right there, right next to the on deck

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<v Speaker 5>circle at Globelize Field as Tanner Scott was dealing to

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<v Speaker 5>the Rangers and got the save that night, but certainly

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<v Speaker 5>was bailed out by his defense. And Andrews even told

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<v Speaker 5>me that fastball is not the same that slider doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>have the same bite. That's not David Vasse talking. That's

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<v Speaker 5>a former, really good Major leaguer that faced that guy.

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<v Speaker 5>And you don't have to be a baseball expert, if

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<v Speaker 5>you watched any of Tanner Scott last year, to realize

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<v Speaker 5>this guy is not the same guy, and is he

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<v Speaker 5>trying to pitch through something. Is it that dead arm

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<v Speaker 5>period that pitchers go through in spring training and sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>at the beginning of the regular season. Because he has

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<v Speaker 5>not looked like the same guy. And if you watch

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<v Speaker 5>the game tonight, the fastball, he had pretty good command

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<v Speaker 5>of it. That's how he got two strikes on virtually

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<v Speaker 5>every hitter he faced. But he couldn't put away McNeil.

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<v Speaker 5>He couldn't put away Tyrone Taylor either. And you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he was very lucky that Juan Soto is moping these days,

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<v Speaker 5>because Juan Soto did not look like Juan Soto in

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<v Speaker 5>that at that or in this game. Soto is over

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<v Speaker 5>tonight with one walk. But nonetheless, that was the one

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<v Speaker 5>out Tanner Scott got, ironically, was Juan Soto. Outside of that,

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<v Speaker 5>he couldn't put hitters away with his slider. His slider

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<v Speaker 5>did not seem good. You know, I mentioned this during

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<v Speaker 5>the Dodger Clubhouse show, going back to my original partner

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<v Speaker 5>on this show, Kevin Kennedy, Rick honeycutt Oral Herscheizer that

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<v Speaker 5>no pitching. They'll describe a pitcher that's not finishing his pitches,

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<v Speaker 5>his secondary pitches as casting, meaning they're just kind of

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<v Speaker 5>flipping it out there. They're not really throwing it with conviction.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not extending their arm. The way they described it

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<v Speaker 5>is it's basically you casting a fishing pole doing it

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<v Speaker 5>that way, and you can't live that way. And it

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<v Speaker 5>felt like I heard their voices in my head as

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<v Speaker 5>I was watching Tanner Scott throw his sliders tonight as

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<v Speaker 5>casting those sliders? Was he holding something back? Third the

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<v Speaker 5>game in four days? Is the arm barking because of that?

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<v Speaker 5>But he's pitching through it because he understands the predicament

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<v Speaker 5>of the Dodger bullpen. I think those are all valley questions.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't just say this guy stinks. He doesn't stink.

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<v Speaker 5>The Dodgers gave him a big contract, and when they did,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody was so jealous and envious and resentful. They signed

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<v Speaker 5>Tanner Scott last year, he was dominant, only had two

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<v Speaker 5>blown saves this year already he has four eight sixty

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<v Speaker 5>six nine eight seven two five seventy is the phone number.

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<v Speaker 5>With all that being said, the Dodgers used eight different

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<v Speaker 5>pitchers tonight to get this win, and we'll see what

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<v Speaker 5>chairs they move on the deck tomorrow to bring in

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<v Speaker 5>a fresh arm to that bullpen. Also, Dave Roberts already

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<v Speaker 5>announced that the scheduled live batting practice throw Otani was

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<v Speaker 5>going to have tomorrow has been pushed back to Sunday

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<v Speaker 5>at the earliest because of how late it is. Right

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<v Speaker 5>now now in New York, eight sixty six nine seven

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<v Speaker 5>to Corey and Santa Clarita. You're on Dodger Talk with

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<v Speaker 5>David vasse Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Corey, Hey, David, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing great. I mean, whoever lost this game tonight

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<v Speaker 5>was not gonna feel great. But I feel like if

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<v Speaker 5>the Dodgers would have lost it, they would have felt

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<v Speaker 5>worse after using as many pitchers as they did and

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<v Speaker 5>Tanner Scott blowing the save in the ninth.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I what I was wondering? I read I

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<v Speaker 2>read an article that we always we as the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 2>always have great pitching and always have we can always

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<v Speaker 2>turn around something we try to fake something. I heard

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<v Speaker 2>that people around Tanner Scott or something. He used to

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<v Speaker 2>nibble at the edges and now he's too much in

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<v Speaker 2>to the strike zone and that might be his downfall.

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<v Speaker 2>He was I think you were talking about it earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>The command is not as good.

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<v Speaker 5>With the slider, it wasn't as good. But I will

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<v Speaker 5>say this, even though he hasn't been as dominant, he's

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<v Speaker 5>not walking as many hitters as he was walking last

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<v Speaker 5>year because he has twenty five strikeouts this year and

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<v Speaker 5>only two walks. Last year he had eighty four strikeouts

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<v Speaker 5>and thirty six walks, So his whip, his walks are

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<v Speaker 5>lower than what they were a year ago. So maybe

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<v Speaker 5>he's trying to figure out whatever the Dodgers have adjusted

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<v Speaker 5>to and he's got to figure it out, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>or go back to his old self because what he

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<v Speaker 5>was doing was working. I like that he's not walking

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<v Speaker 5>hitters despite what he did tonight. But yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>that's part of the equation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I do love that. And I know the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers have a great feel for pictures and they try

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<v Speaker 2>to tweak things here and there. And I read a

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<v Speaker 2>fact that we had the same record two years ago

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<v Speaker 2>through fifty games. Yeah, the first season does matter. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just all.

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<v Speaker 5>Differences, Corey. The differences this year. The Dodgers are redlining.

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<v Speaker 5>They're pitching, and there's not a lot of reinforcements in

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<v Speaker 5>the bullpen right now. It's not even about the starting staff,

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<v Speaker 5>because they are gonna get glass Now back, They are

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<v Speaker 5>going to get Blake Snell back. But are you certain

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<v Speaker 5>they're going to get Evan Phillips back? Are you certain

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<v Speaker 5>they're gonna get Blake Trenning back? And you know you

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<v Speaker 5>can't make a trade between now and the trade deadline

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<v Speaker 5>until probably forty eight hours for a difference maker.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with with Trinan and Phillips, that form and that elbow.

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<v Speaker 2>That scares me.

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<v Speaker 5>But well, all of it scares me because right now

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<v Speaker 5>they've thrown more innings than any other bullpen out there.

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<v Speaker 5>Coming into the game tonight, they had thrown two hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and fourteen innings. Add ten more to that. They're up

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<v Speaker 5>to two twenty four now. So that's the concerning part.

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<v Speaker 5>The Dodgers have mastered the regular season, but right now

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<v Speaker 5>they're in a very dangerous fought with their pitching, and

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<v Speaker 5>they're facing really good teams and they cannot afford to

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<v Speaker 5>have what happened tonight happened too often. Thanks for the

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<v Speaker 5>phone call Corey, appreciate it. Eight sixty six nine eighty

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<v Speaker 5>seven two five seventy is the phone number. Another play

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<v Speaker 5>obstruction on Max Munsey in the bottom of the fourth inning.

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<v Speaker 5>to be kind of like what Mike Pereira is for

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<v Speaker 5>Fox in the NFL, to explain the rules and the

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<v Speaker 5>because what he said, yes, was the rule, but that's

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<v Speaker 5>not what took place. Trip Gibson was not trailing Starling Marte.

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<v Speaker 5>Marte had more than enough daylight to see taoscar Hernandez

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<v Speaker 5>make that catch. That was an overzealous umpire inserting himself

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<v Speaker 5>where he did not need to insert himself. Eight sixty

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go out to Sarquise since Santa Clarita, you're on

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<v Speaker 5>Dodger Talk with David vasse Hi Sarquise.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, how you doing, Dave. Yeah, you just kind of

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<v Speaker 7>took everything I was gonna say. That call was so bad.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just hoping going forward, these umpires don't kind of

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even know why. That was in the back

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<v Speaker 5>of his mind. And by the way, when Andy Pa

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<v Speaker 5>in the thirteenth Dino Ebol was making a point to

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<v Speaker 5>Trip Gibson and saying, hey, if you're gonna call obstruction

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<v Speaker 5>on Muncie, this guy's standing in the same spot. And

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<v Speaker 5>so Dina I wasn't letting it go even in the

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I saw that, and I agree with you, and

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<v Speaker 7>I just hope this doesn't become a normal thing where umpires,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, take it upon themselves to, you know, get

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<v Speaker 7>these rules out of their hat. It's a rule, I

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<v Speaker 7>get it, but it happens all the time. If you're

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<v Speaker 7>didn't call this, then you know.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't I disagree with you. It doesn't happen all

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<v Speaker 5>the time. It doesn't happen all the time, and it

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<v Speaker 5>didn't happen that time either. I mean, Munsey was just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of there, he was close to the bag. He

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't even on the bag. That was I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>why Trip Gibson decided to make that call, But it

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't happen all the time. It just doesn't. And he

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<v Speaker 5>was maybe Trip Gibson was out of position. How about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Just because he couldn't see Taoscar make the catch doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>And my second point, Dave, is this, Juan Soto is

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<v Speaker 7>going to go down as the worst free agent signing

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<v Speaker 7>in the history of baseball for two reasons. Number one,

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<v Speaker 7>the size of the contract, obviously the biggest contracts in history.

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<v Speaker 7>And number two, his attitude. Terrible attitude, terrible teammate. I

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<v Speaker 7>think the Mets got what they deserve. That's all I got.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, all right, Sarkiz, thank you for the phone call. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know about the attitude or you know. The

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<v Speaker 5>it seems like by all reports, and right now he's

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<v Speaker 5>not playing with a lot of joy, and certain players

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<v Speaker 5>number one, he's not a good outfielder, I don't care

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<v Speaker 5>what anybody will tell you, and he's not going to

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<v Speaker 5>that doesn't generate the revenue that Otani generates, and he's

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<v Speaker 5>only going to be a dh Part of the reason

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<v Speaker 5>that Otani is who Otani is is not only is

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<v Speaker 5>he a great baseball player, but he's an attraction. Wan

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<v Speaker 5>Soto is not an attraction. I'm sorry. This was just

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<v Speaker 5>an ego buy by Steve Cohen to say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to take this guy away from the Yankees.

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<v Speaker 5>And Jorge Castillo, who covers the Yankees and Mets for ESPN,

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<v Speaker 5>joined us on the Off Days Show yesterday and basically

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<v Speaker 5>said Juan Soto wanted to go back to the Yankees

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<v Speaker 5>for seven hundred plus million dollars, but his family pushed

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<v Speaker 5>him to sign with the Mets and take a larger contract,

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<v Speaker 5>even though he preferred to stay in pinstripes. So obviously

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<v Speaker 5>there's some disconnect there and we'll see where it goes.

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<v Speaker 5>But we don't want to see Jan Soto take off

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<v Speaker 5>until he leaves LA next week, because he certainly doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>look like the player we saw in twenty nineteen with

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<v Speaker 5>the Nationals. He certainly doesn't look like the player that

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<v Speaker 5>we saw with the Yankees. We kind of saw lapses

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<v Speaker 5>like this with the Padres. He didn't seem like he

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<v Speaker 5>was fitting in really well there. So we've seen this

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<v Speaker 5>version of Juan Soto and it doesn't usually go well.

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<v Speaker 5>Eight six six nine eighty seven two five seventy is

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<v Speaker 5>the phone number Dodgers hold on for a seven to

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<v Speaker 5>five win in thirteen innings tonight at City Field over

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<v Speaker 5>the Mets. And by the way, I know the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 5>we're talking to Boris and Soto about being involved in

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<v Speaker 5>signing for him. Uh, if they signed Juan Soto, does

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<v Speaker 5>that mean they don't sign Tioscar Hernandez. Because if I'm

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<v Speaker 5>rather have Juan Soto or Tioscar Hernandez on my team

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<v Speaker 5>in a team sport, not just home run derby or

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<v Speaker 5>in a vacuum, I would take eight nine ti Oscar

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<v Speaker 5>Hernandez is over eight or nine Jan Sotos eight six

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go out to Bob and Malibu. Hi, Bob, you're

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<v Speaker 5>on Dodger Talk.

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<v Speaker 8>Uncle Dave.

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<v Speaker 3>Always good to be with you, Man.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Bob. What do you got well?

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, big thanks to you, Colin and Dwayne

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<v Speaker 3>for sticking out a long day.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate you guys doing that for all and

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<v Speaker 3>calling fans and Colin he of course. Man absolutely had

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<v Speaker 3>a chance to hear from Eric Carros a while back,

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<v Speaker 3>and he talked about baseball and he talked about the

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<v Speaker 3>grind and what you guys are doing is part of

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<v Speaker 3>coaching staff, everybody. So thanks, Man, appreciate you guys doing

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, thank you, Bob. What'd you think about the game tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>It was a wild game, man. You know, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>agree with you more. There was a lot of twists

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<v Speaker 3>and turns to this game. I don't think it was

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<v Speaker 3>a textbook game by any any means whatsoever. I think

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<v Speaker 3>my biggest question for you is, and you've been talking

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<v Speaker 3>it up, it's been a wild week of calls for

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<v Speaker 3>you too, man, Like you said, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>all this love for Taylor and Barnes that hasn't been

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<v Speaker 3>there in years popped out of the woodwork. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you've even got a guy arguing pizza with you earlier, man.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's been a while to be on the callboard

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<v Speaker 3>for you too, man. But my question is, you know

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<v Speaker 3>where does the pitching go from from here? Like, what

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<v Speaker 3>do we do with the bullpen tomorrow? Does your man

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<v Speaker 3>also get a call in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens now?

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<v Speaker 4>Dave?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Frosso main, I don't know the last time Frosso pitched.

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<v Speaker 5>I gotta look that up. Is it justin Roblesky? I

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<v Speaker 5>gotta look when the last time he pitched. Because they're

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<v Speaker 5>it tomorrow, but they may need to use it on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, they need an arm. They need an arm,

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<v Speaker 5>and they need more importantly, Bob, Tony Gonsolin to be

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<v Speaker 5>Tony Gonsolin that we have grown to know and go

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<v Speaker 5>at least six innings tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Agree. Agree, He's got to show up. He's got to

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<v Speaker 3>give us some depth, he's got to get some run

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<v Speaker 3>support put in his mind at ease a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>so he can go a little deeper into the game,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just to get a little bit of linked

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<v Speaker 3>out of some starting pitching, which we desperately need. I

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<v Speaker 3>agree with you, Ben, but it's interesting to me to

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<v Speaker 3>see how they're gonna play it. Like you said, who

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<v Speaker 3>are they going to move up the ladder? The Dodgers

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<v Speaker 3>are really good at making those moves. Thank goodness, who

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<v Speaker 3>moments notice and really get in the game and be competitive. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>kudos to Ben Casparius once again. The guy has proven

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<v Speaker 5>Man, no doubt, he broke up, he broke out last

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<v Speaker 5>year in Game four of the World Series. He came

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<v Speaker 5>to spring training just as good as he was, if

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<v Speaker 5>not better than last year. And like he has told

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<v Speaker 5>me on many occasions, he just doesn't want to go

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<v Speaker 5>back to Oklahoma City. He doesn't care if he starts,

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<v Speaker 5>he doesn't care if he closes, he doesn't care if

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<v Speaker 5>he comes in after an hour and thirty eight minute

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<v Speaker 5>rain delay. He just wants to be up here. And

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<v Speaker 5>you could tell he has that passion and toughness that

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<v Speaker 5>it takes to be in that role. Eight six six

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go out to Irvine. Brandon, You're on Dodger Talk.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi Brandon, Hello.

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<v Speaker 4>David, Big Panny, yours first time calling that you do

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<v Speaker 4>a great show. I think thank you brand Over talking

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<v Speaker 4>about you're welcome. Talking about Soto Hernandez, you're right dead on,

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent, much better player all the way around,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's paid a fraction of what Soto makes. But

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<v Speaker 4>my main reason for calling is this pitching is you've

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<v Speaker 4>been talking about is really scary to me as a

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<v Speaker 4>lifelong fan. We had like ten pitchers on the d

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<v Speaker 4>l or ten guys that we know their names, Emmitt

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<v Speaker 4>she and I can't even think of the other guy

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<v Speaker 4>last year that's been out for like a year. He

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<v Speaker 4>did really good for us until he blew his arm out.

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<v Speaker 5>That was Gavin Stone. He made more starts for the

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<v Speaker 5>Dodgers last year than any other pitcher. He made thirty

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<v Speaker 5>starts for the Dodgers last year, and he blew out

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<v Speaker 5>his shoulder. That's the difference between this year. Hold up,

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<v Speaker 5>that's the difference between last year and this year. You

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<v Speaker 5>had river Ryans, you had Gavin Stones, you had guys

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<v Speaker 5>like that you could tap into, and this year you

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<v Speaker 5>just don't have that. I mean, the Dodgers really needed

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<v Speaker 5>Bobby Miller to make to make the next step, and

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<v Speaker 5>he hasn't taken that next step, at least right now.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's a part of this season that a lot

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<v Speaker 4>You took the name out of my brain, which is

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<v Speaker 4>Rever Ryan. What's up with him? Is he coming back

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<v Speaker 4>anytime this year? Any word on him?

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<v Speaker 5>No? No, He had Tommy John surgery. He blew out

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<v Speaker 5>towards the end of last year, so that's a fourteen

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<v Speaker 4>And what about him?

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<v Speaker 5>Emit Shean had Tommy John surgery early last year in

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<v Speaker 5>assignments if he already hasn't, and the Dodgers expect him

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<v Speaker 5>to be back in the second half of the season. Okay, that,

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<v Speaker 5>but all that doesn't help them right now. They need

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<v Speaker 5>help right now. They don't need help in June or July.

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<v Speaker 5>They need help right now. That's the concerning part.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right about that. Well, I think if we can

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<v Speaker 4>go on, like you said, we're probably not going to

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<v Speaker 4>make any big moves until the trade deadline or closer

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<v Speaker 4>to it. But my thing is, if we could start

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<v Speaker 4>having those conversations, I think we're gonna need a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of people, especially with Evan Phillips being a question mark

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<v Speaker 4>and trying and being a question mark. We can't get

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<v Speaker 4>to the end of the season and have you know,

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<v Speaker 4>bullpen sessions in playoff games a week.

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<v Speaker 2>We got away with.

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<v Speaker 4>It last year, but I don't think we should keep

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<v Speaker 4>rolling those dice. But I just want to thank you

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<v Speaker 4>for letting me speak my mind, David, and uh and

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<v Speaker 4>I want to hear what you have to say about

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<v Speaker 4>what I just said.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, I think we had the conversation. Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 5>Brandon eight sixty six nine eighty seven two five seventy

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<v Speaker 5>is the phone number. We're gonna take a time out

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<v Speaker 5>here on Dodger Talk when we come back. More of

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<v Speaker 5>your phone calls. Also, we're gonna check in with Jose Mota,

440
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<v Speaker 5>who's doing double duty as well. He called in during

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<v Speaker 5>the rain delays show. He's gonna check in next get

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<v Speaker 5>his thoughts on some of the calls in this game

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<v Speaker 5>and just how the Dodgers navigate moving forward. The Dodgers

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<v Speaker 5>hold on for a seven to five win in thirteen

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<v Speaker 5>innings on AM five to seventy LA Sports.

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<v Speaker 6>On air at AM five to seventy, online at AM

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<v Speaker 6>five seventy LA sports dot com, and available by podcast

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<v Speaker 6>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 5>This is Dodger Talk with David Bassing. The pitch, the.

450
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<v Speaker 6>Oscar rips it bear down the line into the left

451
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<v Speaker 6>field corner. Here comes Will Smith. Finally somebody breaks through

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<v Speaker 6>and they wear Dodger Blue.

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<v Speaker 5>Ta Oscar Hernandez for the second straight game, coming up

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<v Speaker 5>with the biggest hit of the night. Remember at Dodger

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<v Speaker 5>Stadium two nights ago, a go ahead three run home

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<v Speaker 5>run Tonight, ta Oskar her and As to the rescue

457
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<v Speaker 5>in the thirteenth inning with a basit to drive in

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<v Speaker 5>Will Smith from second base. The Dodgers would tack on

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<v Speaker 5>another run and beat the Mets in thirteen Tonight seven

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<v Speaker 5>to five Dodger Talk postgame edition after a rain delay

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<v Speaker 5>edition earlier this afternoon. We're going to the bottom of

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<v Speaker 5>the hour. We have three lines open. We'll get back

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<v Speaker 5>to your phone calls in just a moment, but first.

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<v Speaker 6>It's time to go around the horn with Jose Mota.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Jose Mota, we talked about it during the

466
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<v Speaker 5>rain delay. The Dodgers had to cover more innings than

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<v Speaker 5>we anticipated. How do they navigate the next couple of

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<v Speaker 5>games in New York and even the rest of this

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<v Speaker 5>road trip considering the bullpen again had to cover ten

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<v Speaker 5>innings tonight.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, David standard answers. They got through tonight, so let's

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<v Speaker 8>see what happens from here on. Hopefully there's some reinforcement

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<v Speaker 8>coming up soon. But man, you gotta plow the job

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<v Speaker 8>by Soured going out there is doing their job intervening.

475
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<v Speaker 8>I mean, Torito came in a hard spot and got

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<v Speaker 8>through that middle of the order. But Dave, let's wait

477
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<v Speaker 8>till tomorrow, see what kind of moves are made and

478
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<v Speaker 8>see what was available and go from there. Attorney, they

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<v Speaker 8>did a good job holding back to top to the

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<v Speaker 8>middle of the order of the Mets tonight, and we're

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<v Speaker 8>at team to play so well at home.

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<v Speaker 5>Jose, Obviously you've been around baseball your whole life. You've

483
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<v Speaker 5>heard the term casting pitches. Am I seeing? Am I

484
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<v Speaker 5>describing what I'm seeing? Do you feel like Tanner Scott

485
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<v Speaker 5>is not extending his pitches, not pitching with conviction? Do

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<v Speaker 5>you feel like he's casting his pitches? Is that part

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<v Speaker 5>of the reason why he has blown four saves this year?

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<v Speaker 8>That's part of the reason why. Yes, the names you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean Rick Huneycutt Oral, but I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 8>back to something that Clayton Kershaw told me back in

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<v Speaker 8>twenty twenty two when he says, I need to rip

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<v Speaker 8>the slider. I need to really rip it. Something he

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<v Speaker 8>learned from somebody else, Jake Arietta, And that is what

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<v Speaker 8>we're not seeing Tanner Scott doing it consistent basis. There's

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<v Speaker 8>some very good sliders that he throws. But I think

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<v Speaker 8>overall day, I'll tell you one thing, and watching his

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<v Speaker 8>his heat map and the strike zone and the quadrants.

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<v Speaker 8>If he's an even lesser velocity, say ninety five ninety six,

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<v Speaker 8>or he can go ninety seven ninety eight, but it

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<v Speaker 8>seems like if he's around the knees. That slider could

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<v Speaker 8>be a little mediocre and steal cut people out anytime

502
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<v Speaker 8>he elevates. That's why lefties are getting him because when

503
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<v Speaker 8>he elevates is a straight fastball, and then the slider

504
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<v Speaker 8>doesn't have that bite. I mean, there's no reason to

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<v Speaker 8>see a guy with that kind of arm who dominated

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<v Speaker 8>i mean totally embarras lefties last year to allow her

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<v Speaker 8>to average over three forty against lefties this season. And

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<v Speaker 8>it has to be a lot with the height and

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<v Speaker 8>when he's pitching, maybe he's overthrowing him. There's something that

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<v Speaker 8>we don't know about, but certainly that ripping effect that

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<v Speaker 8>Kersher has talked to me about is not there on

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<v Speaker 8>a consistent basis, and teams know that if we see that,

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<v Speaker 8>Believe me, teams pay attention to that. And when they

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<v Speaker 8>see pitches above the zone, which is also an indicator

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<v Speaker 8>from a lot of hitting coaches to say he comes

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<v Speaker 8>up around the zone. In fact, watch your warm up

517
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<v Speaker 8>and see what he does in warm ups, and that'll

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<v Speaker 8>tell you a lot of what's happening with him. If

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<v Speaker 8>he's finishing off nicely and down on the zone is

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<v Speaker 8>very unhittable because everything looks pretty much the same when

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<v Speaker 8>he's up on the zone, it just doesn't look the same.

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<v Speaker 5>Well have you noticed as well the walks are down,

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<v Speaker 5>and the caller was very observing, is what is the

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<v Speaker 5>connection between how the Dodgers got him to be more

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<v Speaker 5>in the strike zone and the fastball velocity being a

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<v Speaker 5>tick down on average from last year.

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<v Speaker 8>A lot of times is adapting to a philosophy and

528
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<v Speaker 8>something that's been implemented here with the Dodgers. And if

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<v Speaker 8>it's that feel zone little bit more with your stuff,

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<v Speaker 8>that takes a little bit of time. If he came

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<v Speaker 8>from the school of the Marlins and before that the

532
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<v Speaker 8>Oils and went to the Potters last year. But if

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<v Speaker 8>his em all has been pitched around the edges, go

534
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<v Speaker 8>to the edges and spread the zone, that leads to

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<v Speaker 8>success and at the same time, it leads to more walks.

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<v Speaker 8>So if it leads to more walks, and even though

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<v Speaker 8>you allow lessons and you pitch and he's pitched, it's

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<v Speaker 8>still gonna be pitching with a lot of traffic. And

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<v Speaker 8>that's something you do not want to see your closer

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<v Speaker 8>do now as a full time closer for this team,

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<v Speaker 8>and the high leverage games is going to be playing

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<v Speaker 8>against in this division. I will prefer to see him

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<v Speaker 8>more strikes than being around the edges, because you do

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<v Speaker 8>that against some of these lineups and before you know it,

545
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<v Speaker 8>one ball, one pitch up of the zone, a wild pitch,

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00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 8>one play that may's going to cost you more. So

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<v Speaker 8>that's where I can go today, just thinking about perhaps

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<v Speaker 8>something that's been implemented against philosophy that he's not. He

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<v Speaker 8>is getting used to, but for sure, to me, it's

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<v Speaker 8>going to be about pitching down in the zone more

551
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<v Speaker 8>often than pitching upstairs, so when he pitches up fairs,

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<v Speaker 8>it's more effective.

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<v Speaker 5>Jose Mota is joining us after the Dodgers beat the

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<v Speaker 5>Mets in thirteen innings tonight, seven to five. All right, Hose,

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<v Speaker 5>let's go back to the play that everybody's talking about,

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<v Speaker 5>and not in a good way. For third base umpire

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<v Speaker 5>Trip Gibson, what did you make about that obstruction call.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to say that cost the Dodgers winning

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<v Speaker 5>this game in nine innings, but certainly a run's a

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<v Speaker 5>run and that run should not have scored.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to.

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<v Speaker 8>Observe that because it's a play that doesn't happen very

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<v Speaker 8>often and at times as a defender, you are taught

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<v Speaker 8>in DMFL. Hey, you know what, if you can just

565
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<v Speaker 8>get around the area to not allow they got to

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<v Speaker 8>get a great look and maybe jump the call and

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<v Speaker 8>jump the play. So go ahead and do it. But

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<v Speaker 8>what I saw was a lot of daylight. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>you and I were talking during the game, and I

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<v Speaker 8>did not. The biggest indicator is if you see the

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<v Speaker 8>runner either leaning back or leaning forward too much, that's

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<v Speaker 8>your indication as an umpire, you know what, he can't

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<v Speaker 8>see the play. But that was not the case at all.

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<v Speaker 8>Starting Mark is standing on the bad He is totally

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<v Speaker 8>just you know, straight and narrow, just watching for task,

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<v Speaker 8>and so he had enough to see it. Now, the

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<v Speaker 8>interpretation he gave was because a play was so close

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<v Speaker 8>to the play, you can go ahead and implement that play.

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<v Speaker 8>But at the same time, that's why later in the

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<v Speaker 8>game he does not make a call like that, even

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<v Speaker 8>though you know Eagles pointing at it and Max months

582
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<v Speaker 8>he's pointing at it because there's no play of the plate.

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<v Speaker 8>But it's one where I think he missed it that

584
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<v Speaker 8>there's no doubt about it. If there's enough day that

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<v Speaker 8>you can also make an adjustment. As a base runner

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<v Speaker 8>to make sure that he scored that run too.

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<v Speaker 5>What did you make of Dino hammering home that point

588
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<v Speaker 5>when tai Oscar Hernandez tagged up and scored in the

589
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.839
<v Speaker 5>thirteenth inning on the PA Haz fly ball, Dino was

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<v Speaker 5>in Trip Gibson's ear all the way while they were

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<v Speaker 5>reviewing Hayes Sun Kim being being safer out. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>you we saw it on the broadcast that Dino was

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<v Speaker 5>obviously in Trick Gibson's ear, probably still talking about that call.

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<v Speaker 8>And probably trying to get an explanation why that one

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<v Speaker 8>was different. And as I mentioned before, because there's no

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<v Speaker 8>play at the plate to go out there and say

597
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 8>that was a major fact in that play scoring when

598
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.400
<v Speaker 8>I was going in a close play. But I think overall,

599
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.359
<v Speaker 8>Dino is soul. Where we're talking about base running during

600
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<v Speaker 8>our rendela and here it is again coming up, you

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<v Speaker 8>have to just put it in the part and explanation.

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<v Speaker 8>Next months, he got next flash and himself in the

603
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.359
<v Speaker 8>dugout from Trip Gibson. So those are pleasure because they

604
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<v Speaker 8>don't happen very often. You want to have a clear

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<v Speaker 8>interpretation as to what he saw what you can prevent,

606
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<v Speaker 8>but certainly know that you did nothing around the fielder,

607
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.799
<v Speaker 8>and as a base coach, also for you for your

608
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<v Speaker 8>base runners to be aware if that happens, what to

609
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<v Speaker 8>look for, what to call for from when I'm part

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<v Speaker 8>of going.

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<v Speaker 5>Forward, all right, Jose, thanks for staying up late with us.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for doing double duty tonight, and we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 5>you tomorrow after game two of this series.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a pleasure. I hope you'll get some pizza somewhere

615
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:36.119
<v Speaker 8>because we were talking about pizza before the game.

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<v Speaker 5>Show.

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<v Speaker 8>Go on and get some pizza.

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<v Speaker 5>You deserve some late night pizza now, right, Jose, After

619
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<v Speaker 5>that game you just oh why not?

620
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:43.359
<v Speaker 4>It was a win.

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<v Speaker 5>We celebrate, all right, Hose, you too. We'll talk to

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<v Speaker 5>you tomorrow. Thanks. Jose Mota part of the Dodgers Spanish

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<v Speaker 5>radio broadcast and certainly knows the game really well and

624
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 5>love tapping into Jose after every game here on Dodger Talk.

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<v Speaker 5>Eight six six seven two seventy is the phone number.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's take a couple of more calls before we say goodnight.

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<v Speaker 5>Gotta go to Marco who's listening in Alberta, Canada. Marco,

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<v Speaker 5>how you doing. You're on Dodger Talk. Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, David vessaid, no way you're gonna I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to follow Mota. I can't give you any more input

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<v Speaker 1>than that.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, come on, You're a Canadian, you could do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen. I've been a longtime fan of you and of

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<v Speaker 1>course the Dodgers. I wanted just to express that. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you've always been good with keeping that balance between being

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<v Speaker 1>objective and also being a Dodger fan. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know who taught me right growing up listening

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<v Speaker 5>to Vin Scully. He never lets you know that he

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<v Speaker 5>was cheering. That's just kind of the staple of what

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<v Speaker 5>we grew up with in Los Angeles. When it comes

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<v Speaker 5>to broadcasters, Vince Scully, Bob Miller, Chick Hern, we all

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<v Speaker 5>knew they wanted their teams to win, but they never

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<v Speaker 5>let it be overtally obvious on the broadcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that makes that makes a lot of sense. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for that. Again. Being up here in Canada, I

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<v Speaker 1>get connected through iHeartRadio. I listened to or I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to you, and uh, you know, I miss it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still with you. I'm concerned a bit about the injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm concerned about the bullpen but you know, at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that we're better than the boat the Blue Jays,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the team up here that uh yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know up here. Yeah, that's what I see up here.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyways, a lot worse, right, you could be the Blue Jays.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anyway, I just want to thank you, and I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to give you a top five

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<v Speaker 1>just because I'm a I'm from the eighties and I

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<v Speaker 1>just want you to give me, give you you to

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<v Speaker 1>give me my thoughts. So Steve Sachs or Herscheizer, Mike Piazza,

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<v Speaker 1>Kirshaw and I'll talk. He's got to be in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking eighties and up Those are my top five,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Those are yours.

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<v Speaker 5>Those are Alberta, Canada, and they all are really good players.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you're gonna tell me they are the top

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<v Speaker 5>five players since nineteen eighty to wear a Dodger uniform,

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<v Speaker 5>I would disagree with a couple of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and that would be okay. I will say

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<v Speaker 1>Sacks only because I literally I was a second baseman

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<v Speaker 1>and sax was he was it. I'm still number three now.

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<v Speaker 1>Hershi so was the Bulldog. Piata was just during the

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<v Speaker 1>during the A low time. I think he was a

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<v Speaker 1>big piece of that team. Kershaw, you can't deny it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Otani at this point, I mean, he's gonna be,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, those are yours. I love hearing that, Marco, I

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<v Speaker 5>love it. Those are yours, And that's really cool. Those

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<v Speaker 5>are your top five favorite players, and there's been so

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<v Speaker 5>many since nineteen eighty it would be tough to squeeze

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<v Speaker 5>five guys in it, but those are yours. Maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 5>do that one night. We'll ask everybody who their top

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<v Speaker 5>five is eight sixty six, nine eighty seven, two five

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<v Speaker 5>seventy is the phone number, not the top five greatest

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<v Speaker 5>since nineteen eighty, but who your top five are since

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen eighty. I think that's that's special to you because

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<v Speaker 5>there has been so many great players that have put

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<v Speaker 5>on the Dodger uniform, not only since you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>Boys of Summer in Brooklyn or when they moved to

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<v Speaker 5>LA but even just from nineteen eighty or just from

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen ninety. I know the team's success wasn't there from

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen ninety to about, you know, nineteen ninety seven, but

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<v Speaker 5>there's been some good players and good teams between ninety

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<v Speaker 5>and two thousand and thankfully, this is the golden Age

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<v Speaker 5>of Dodger Baseball. And that says a lot considering how

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<v Speaker 5>many good decades there's been, how many good players there

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<v Speaker 5>been and teams. When history looks back at the La Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 5>they're gonna look back at twenty thirteen, uh and on

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<v Speaker 5>from when the Dodgers really dominated Major League Baseball and

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<v Speaker 5>had the greatest success sustained success in the franchise's history.

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<v Speaker 5>Gotta take one more phone call before we say goodnight.

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<v Speaker 5>Long Beach has a special place in my heart. No,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not Doug Crecorian. It's Emma. Emma walk us off tonight.

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<v Speaker 8>In Long Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, David, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing great, Emma. What do you got for us?

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<v Speaker 7>I have a question for you, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Now tell me. Is this the umpire from tonight, the

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<v Speaker 2>catcher of the main Empire catcher Empire?

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<v Speaker 8>Was he the same umpire that threw out Walker Buehler.

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<v Speaker 2>The other day?

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<v Speaker 5>No, that was Mike Esterbrook. That was not Trip Gibson. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>so two umpires made news in a matter of four

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<v Speaker 5>days in not a good way. So no, that was

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<v Speaker 5>not the same umpire. Thanks for the phone call, Emma.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a good way to end the show. And look,

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<v Speaker 5>I will say this, I grew up listening to Chick

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<v Speaker 5>Hern Vince Scully, and one of them used to say

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<v Speaker 5>that if you know the umpire or referees name, and

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<v Speaker 5>I believe it was Chick this is something Chick Hern

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<v Speaker 5>would say if well, the fans know the referees name

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<v Speaker 5>means that they're not doing a great job. The referees

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<v Speaker 5>and umpires should be nameless. But when you start hearing

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<v Speaker 5>their names like Joe West, Angel Hernandez, Trip Gibson, Mike Esterbrook,

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<v Speaker 5>that means they're putting themselves too much in the spotlight

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<v Speaker 5>instead of just calling the games. That'll do it for

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<v Speaker 5>us tonight, Aunt Dodger talking by the way, I will

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<v Speaker 5>say this, umpires have a thankless job. They all do

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<v Speaker 5>a great job. They'd try to do their best. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not saying that they are trying to steal the spotlight,

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<v Speaker 5>but sometimes they're human and emotions get the best of

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<v Speaker 5>them and so you can understand that. But I think

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<v Speaker 5>every umpire referee in the NFL, NBA hockey got to

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<v Speaker 5>realize that the fans are not there to see them

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<v Speaker 5>they're there to see the players, and that falls in

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<v Speaker 5>the category of Mike Esterbrook, who really had a short

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<v Speaker 5>fuse throwing out Walker Buehler the other night in Boston. Tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 5>Tony Gonsolin will be on the moundies two and zero

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<v Speaker 5>with an ERA of four to zero five. The Dodgers

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<v Speaker 5>need a big start from Gonsolin considering how many pitchers

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<v Speaker 5>they use tonight. He's going up against David Peterson, who's

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<v Speaker 5>two and two with an ERA of two to eighty six.

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<v Speaker 5>Morongo Casino Dodgers on Deck begins at three o'clock tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 5>with first pitch at four fifteen. Thanks to Colin Ye

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<v Speaker 5>who's had a long day in our Burbank studios. Thanks

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<v Speaker 5>to Dwayne McDonald who had a long night at City

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<v Speaker 5>Field in New York, and thanks thanks to you for listening.

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<v Speaker 5>We got two Dodger Talk shows if you want a

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<v Speaker 5>podcast on Saturday or late into the morning, we have

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<v Speaker 5>our rain Delay Dodger Talk Hour and thirty eight minute

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<v Speaker 5>rain Delay in the third inning today and of course

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<v Speaker 5>you can find this show on the iHeartRadio app radio

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<v Speaker 5>app as well. Once again, the final score tonight from

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<v Speaker 5>City Field, the Dodgers beat the Mets seven to five

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<v Speaker 5>and thirteen innings. Fox Sports Radio is next. Have a

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<v Speaker 5>great rest of your night. See you
