WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:18.280 Coming to you from the dining room table at East 2 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:22.600 Barbary Lane. Welcome to a new episode of Full Circle, 3 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:26.879 the podcast, a weekly visit to our home where we 4 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:31.440 squeeze a few headlines through our decidedly queer lens and 5 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:35.640 see what happens. This episode is brought to you by 6 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:40.679 Decanted jug wine and a list that doesn't exist, but 7 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:43.679 if it did exist, the Democrats wrote it, and while 8 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:47.439 it doesn't exist, Republicans unanimously voted not to share it 9 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:50.320 if it existed, which it does not. 10 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:56.280 I am your host, Charles Tyson Junior. 11 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:59.240 And I'm your host Martha Madrigal. Welcome to the Full 12 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:01.200 Circle tabe. 13 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:03.240 Is that like if I did it? 14 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:10.400 You know what? We're so lost in a sea of words. 15 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:22.760 I'm just you know, you're stupid. It wasn't suicide, No, 16 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:23.319 it was not. 17 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:28.920 He did not kill himself. He did not, I mean 18 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:31.840 his suicide bassassin an actual thing. 19 00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:39.799 Because it is Sunday, July twentieth, here in these Divided 20 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:45.799 States of America. Hi, baby, Hi, honey, how are you? 21 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:51.840 I'm tired? Uh huh really fucking dire. I'm good, I mean, 22 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:57.560 you know, yeah, hanging in Yeah, it's hot out there. 23 00:01:58.120 --> 00:01:58.439 It is. 24 00:01:58.519 --> 00:01:59.319 It's human. 25 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:01.400 It just rained and then I went to let the 26 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:04.040 dog out and my glasses fogged up. 27 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:07.640 It's a sauna outside. Yeah, it's pretty. I mean, things 28 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:10.919 are green and stuff, but all right, it's too warm 29 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:13.759 for it's it's that soupy warm. 30 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:14.400 Yeah. 31 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:19.240 When they say it's not the heat, it's the humidity. This, 32 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:23.439 this is what they mean. Yeah, that's where you walk 33 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:25.080 outside and boil rather than. 34 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:27.520 Fry exactly. 35 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:31.639 Anyway, how are you? 36 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:35.759 I'm all right, my thumb is twitching. 37 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:40.080 Other than that, I'm fine. I guess aching to hitchhike. 38 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:46.479 I don't know what the problem is. I was editing 39 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:50.280 the last episode and my thumb started like twitching, and 40 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:53.759 I'm like, the fuck. That's why they call me old 41 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:56.680 twitchy thumb. They don't. No one calls me that. 42 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:02.479 No. But I guess if it continues. 43 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:06.879 To the point where enough people notice. 44 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:07.639 You could rebrand. 45 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:16.879 Nah, that's okay. We've got animals fighting in the background. 46 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:20.719 I know, I know, because the cat. The cat's just 47 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:23.520 like laying here like I'm not moving, and the dog's 48 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:26.800 trying to antagonize the cat. The cat's like, no, not 49 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:29.599 to die, which is frustrating the dog it's just the 50 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:30.080 whole thing. 51 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:32.960 The dog is trying to play, which antagonizes the cat. 52 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:37.319 It does, it really does. The dog just wants to play. 53 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:40.479 Of course, his idea of playing is running up into 54 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:46.680 your face really really fast. For some reason, cats don't enjoy. 55 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:51.960 Well, these cats don't enjoy it anyway. I'm not sure 56 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:56.639 any word anyway, that's fun at our house. 57 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:59.759 It's the Insane Menagerie. 58 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:04.120 It is kind of yeah, wow, it's dull here. This weekend, 59 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:11.560 we've talked about the weather and narrated the movements of 60 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:15.840 the animals like and made way too big a deal 61 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:19.439 out of a twitching thumb. I think we've I think 62 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:20.720 we've covered the excitement. 63 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:25.000 So by the time you're hearing this episode, we will 64 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:29.439 have released our interview with Flamey Grant. 65 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:33.120 And which was a fun interview yep. 66 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:37.720 And in that same week we released another regular episode, 67 00:04:37.759 --> 00:04:41.480 which is why it came out at a strange time, because. 68 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:45.720 Just you know, it's impossible to keep to a schedule 69 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:49.279 right now. It is other than the work schedule, which 70 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:50.759 obviously comes first. 71 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:53.839 We used to be so like stringent, we had nothing 72 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:55.600 else to do exactly. 73 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:58.639 Yeah, it was easy to be strict then we. 74 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:02.319 Had no jobs and outside wasn't outsiding. 75 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:05.720 Right, I mean that's at that point we were meticulous. 76 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:10.600 But now it's kind of like catch as catch can exactly. 77 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:12.319 We got to be able to sit down when we're 78 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:16.079 still awake and have something together to talk about. 79 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:21.519 Yeah. Since we last spoke, we have lost some folks. Well, 80 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:26.000 some folks we lost, and some folks well, yeah, we'll 81 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:29.399 get to them, because lost is too strong of a word. 82 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:34.279 Yeah. Andrew Gibson, who was a poet of love, hope, 83 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:37.680 and gender identity, died at forty. 84 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:40.480 Nine, which is very young. 85 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:45.079 Yeah, since that's my age. A master of spoken word 86 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:49.959 performance gives an insisted that poetry, especially when read aloud 87 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:55.519 to an audience, was a political act. Yes, yeah, here here. 88 00:05:56.399 --> 00:06:01.720 Megan Falley, their wife, confirmed the death. Gibson was among 89 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:05.199 the leading voices in a resurgence of spoken word or 90 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:09.720 slam poetry in the mid two thousandth centered in cafes 91 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:14.480 on college campuses around the country. Yes, they were prolific, 92 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:21.240 publishing seven books along with seven albums, all while touring tirelessly. 93 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:27.360 In twenty twenty three, Governor Jared Pollis of Colorado named 94 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:31.399 Gibson the state's poet laureate work shows were as long 95 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:35.399 as ninety minutes, even with chronic stage fright, a condition 96 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:40.600 addressed in the poem owed to the public panic attack work. Yeah. 97 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:43.639 They are in a documentary called Come See Me in 98 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:49.000 the Good Light Huh Yeah, which is focused on Gibson 99 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:53.199 and Valley during Gibson's long struggle with cancer. It premiered 100 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:55.759 at the Sundance Film Festival in January and won the 101 00:06:55.759 --> 00:07:01.800 Festival Favorite Award. Fabulous grew up in an intensely religious, 102 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:06.680 socially conservative world. Their parents are observant Baptists, and Gibson 103 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:10.160 attended Saint Joseph's College of Maine, the only Roman Catholic 104 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:14.720 institution of higher education in the state. Gibson played basketball 105 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:19.920 on a scholarship, and the team won the States Championship 106 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:24.319 during Gibson's senior year. Yeah. Gibson received a diagnosis of 107 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:28.319 ovarian cancer in twenty twenty one and began chemotherapy, a 108 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:31.560 treatment they spoke openly about in interviews, on stage and 109 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:34.879 in their poetry. I was looking for it. You know 110 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:38.560 this article doesn't have it. But and I know I'm paraphrasing, 111 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.839 but they said, I want to die with stretch marks 112 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:46.519 on my heart. Yes, yeah, prolific right up until the end. 113 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:51.879 And you know, certainly one of the voices of a generation. Indeed, 114 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:57.240 we should never grow out of our astonishment. I love that. Yeah, 115 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:03.600 so much. Rest and power too soon indeed. Also, Connie 116 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:08.839 Francis died this week at eighty seven. Yeah, I had 117 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:10.800 a lot of hits. I was playing some of them 118 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:13.920 for you, like early nineteen sixties. 119 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:16.560 Some I had heard and didn't know her, some I 120 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:17.279 had never heard. 121 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:24.079 Yeah, she was I mean, she was someone I knew 122 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:28.079 about growing up, but you know, came to understand better 123 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:33.200 lately because Joey Joseph's, who was a drag queen I 124 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:37.399 performed with That was Joey's. One of Joey's claims to 125 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:42.080 fame was as a Connie Francis impersonator. Yes, and you know, 126 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:46.320 they they got to know each other actually and became friends. 127 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:48.919 And there are pictures of the two of them together. So, 128 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:54.799 you know, someone who just seemed very approachable, you know, 129 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:58.519 and had friendships with folks we know. I never met her, 130 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:01.519 but yeah. 131 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:04.639 My introduction to the name of Connie France was actually 132 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:12.399 in the Lisa Bonet Show because Denise wanted to sleep 133 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:18.080 outside to get tickets to some show, and her father said, 134 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:22.000 where's the show, and she said, Connie Francis stadium, meeting 135 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:27.080 Connie Mack stadium. Connie that And in one of my 136 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:33.679 favorite movies, The Craft After furs Box, spell worked and 137 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:36.960 they got money because she kind of sort of killed 138 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:40.960 her stepfather and they got insurance money. Her mom bought 139 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:45.240 a jukebox with nothing, but Connie Francis regrets because that's 140 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:47.440 something she always wanted since she was a little girl. 141 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:52.960 In nineteen sixty, she became the first woman to top 142 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:57.360 the Billboard Top one hundred with the bluesy ballad Everybody's 143 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:01.519 Somebody's Full. She had an infin for languages and was 144 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:05.200 one of the first stars to record in multiple dialects. 145 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:08.399 Her title song from the nineteen sixty one movie Where 146 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:15.360 the Boys Are was released in seven different languages, English, German, French, Italian, Japanese, Neapolitan, 147 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:22.440 and Spanish. Work Yeah Yeah. Her popularity waned in the 148 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.480 mid sixties as acts like The Beatles and Bob Dylan 149 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:29.519 overtook the pop charts. Yeah well, I told you. Kind 150 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:33.200 of the British invasion was, you know, sort of demise 151 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:38.000 of that kind of music. But yeah, certainly a star 152 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:42.159 and by every account I ever heard, you know, a 153 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:46.960 gracious woman. Yes, she certainly had some lows and exhilarating 154 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:51.440 eighes and a long life. So Connie Francis gone at 155 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:52.440 eighty seven. 156 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:54.480 God bless her. 157 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:55.919 Yeah, risdom peace. 158 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:00.759 And that closes the portion of where we keep like 159 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:02.799 and care about that died. 160 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:10.480 Heritage Foundation founder Edwin is it Fueldner? I believe Fulner 161 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:15.639 or Fulner whatever, dead at eighty three. If only he 162 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:21.120 had taken his foundation with him, right, Yeah, anyway, he's gone. 163 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:26.000 The Heritage Foundation, who sponsored Project twenty twenty five. 164 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:29.279 Yeah, that's then. That's then. 165 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:32.919 I shortened the mom's Maybey quote earlier. I just said 166 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:33.440 he's dead. 167 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:40.279 Good exactly, yeah, exactly. Nothing good to say about the man, 168 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:44.440 nothing good to say about his work, and talk about 169 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:48.919 a life not well lived exactly. Yeah, rest in hell last, 170 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:49.360 but not. 171 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:52.919 Least well at least. 172 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:57.279 Last and least Yeah. Evangelical preacher John MacArthur dies at 173 00:11:57.320 --> 00:12:00.720 eighty six. I only mention it to say good he did. 174 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:05.080 Hopefully hell is as hot as he says. Yeah. 175 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:09.639 He led Grace Community Church in the Los Angeles neighborhood 176 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.240 of Sun Valley for more than five decades. His ministry 177 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:19.360 announced his death on social media. Bye deuces hoe mm hmmm. 178 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:26.200 He made news during the coronavirus pandemic for flouting health 179 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:29.679 orders by holding indoor services for hundreds of congregants and 180 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:36.080 refusing to enforce masking and physical distancing requirements. Yeah. Yeah, 181 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:37.679 another champion of idiocy. 182 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:40.519 Champion of idiocy. 183 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:46.159 Yeah, allegedlate non denominational congregation. I guess that just I 184 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.879 think that just means they're not under anyone's authority, so 185 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:52.240 they can come up with even crazier shit, right I will. 186 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:57.360 Yeah, Like I'm a church because I say I am, 187 00:12:57.399 --> 00:12:59.360 so stop asking me for tax money. 188 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:06.159 Something like uh huh mm hmmm. Yeah, so nothing good 189 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:09.559 to say. Nope, another one's going though. You know it's 190 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:18.759 a start, babbit, Yeah, Jesus yep, going from the planet. Finally. Hey, 191 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:20.320 that's what I got. 192 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:24.960 Right, Yeah, Well, why don't we go on a little break. 193 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:29.080 Let's take a little break and uh we'll come back 194 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:32.080 with some good news just to show us out. Here's 195 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:34.440 Connie Francis with where the boys are. 196 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:50.759 We'll be right back the boys. Someone ways me smile 197 00:13:51.000 --> 00:14:04.000 and face, a warm too, arms to hold Me tender world, 198 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:06.679 the boy. 199 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:10.720 Much. 200 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:22.879 He's walking down some street and town and don't. 201 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:25.120 Know, he's looking there. 202 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:54.639 And we're back, We're back. It is worth noting that 203 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:58.440 that is such a gay song. I mean some have 204 00:14:58.519 --> 00:14:59.840 called it the gay national anthem. 205 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:02.759 On sure, I would go that far, but that's born 206 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:04.279 this way exactly. 207 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:08.799 But can you picture you know what that song meant 208 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:10.279 to closeted gay man. 209 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:12.480 I mean you played it for me earlier today. I 210 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:15.320 mean I've heard the song fourteen sixty, but you played 211 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:18.039 it earlier and I listened to it through that lens 212 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:19.919 and I'm like, okay, I get it. 213 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:23.720 Yeah, he's out there in the crowd. Yeah you can do. 214 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:27.519 I mean you know that that resonated with gay men 215 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:32.240 waiting impatiently. Of course, Yeah, I get it, of course, 216 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:35.600 And it was. The song was written by Neil Sedaka 217 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:40.639 and Howard Greenfield. Howard Greenfield was widely known as a 218 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:43.360 gay man, and he wrote the lyrics oh well then 219 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:48.440 just saying yeah, I mean he had a partner, Yeah, 220 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:49.759 he had a husband. 221 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:51.759 So he was just like, I'm gonna write this song 222 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:52.720 here girls saying. 223 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:56.840 This kind of ya. Sadaka wrote the music, he wrote 224 00:15:56.840 --> 00:16:00.759 the lyrics, and she was an ally. She was an 225 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:04.840 ally of the community. I mean, you know, never never 226 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:08.000 quite achieved the fame she might have given her her 227 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:12.519 beautiful voice for whatever reason, but she was absolutely an 228 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:16.320 advocate for domestic violence and for the community. And that 229 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:22.000 song resonates yes with a lot of queers. So yeah, 230 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:23.840 I don't know if this is part about that one. 231 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:25.639 I don't know if this part about sucking dick in 232 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:27.600 the alley is appropriate. Oh shit, I didn't mean to 233 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:33.919 give you that copy. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're seeing this person. 234 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:37.360 Waits for me. The rest is implied. 235 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:42.120 I'm meant to give you the be sheet, not the 236 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:47.000 A sheet, my bag, girl. I'm sorry. 237 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:51.559 So there was good news. 238 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:53.440 This amazing. 239 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:59.159 Castor Somanya queer runner, won a legal victory against the 240 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:04.279 World Athletics sports policy. They tried to make her undergo 241 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:09.759 medication or surgery to reduce her testosterone levels. Because this 242 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:13.720 is what happens. And again we've said and it's been 243 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:16.960 proven time time again. You know, cis women are also 244 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:20.920 going to pay for this attack on trans women. Yep, 245 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:26.599 she is a perfect example. The European Court of Human 246 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:31.720 Rights has ruled fifteen to two in partial favor of 247 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:36.160 queer says gender Olympic gold medalist runner Castor Somonia in 248 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:40.000 her appeal against the Swiss Court of Arbitration for Sports 249 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:44.640 twenty nineteen decision upholding a World Athletics policy banning her 250 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.839 from competing in women's events unless she took medication or 251 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:53.359 received surgery to reduce her naturally high testosterone levels. Nobody 252 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:56.599 did this to Michael Phelps, but I'm just let's keep going. 253 00:17:57.359 --> 00:17:59.480 Well, he's a sis, white male, so there's nothing wrong 254 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:00.920 with him, of course. 255 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:02.880 Except they said, you know so, they said that the 256 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:07.480 Swiss court's ruling lacked rigorous judicial review, no shit, and 257 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:10.680 they awarded her about ninety four thousand dollars from Switzerland 258 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:14.359 for costs and expenses. They didn't rule on whether World 259 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:18.240 Athletics policy is discriminatory, which, of course it is right. 260 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:22.160 The case, which she has been fighting for over seven years, 261 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:26.440 which effectively ended her running career, will now return to 262 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.920 the Swiss Federal Court in the western city of Lasan Lausan. 263 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:36.359 There it is today my patients in this journey has 264 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:39.160 been rewarded with a result that will pave the way 265 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:42.519 for all athletes human rights to be protected. We hope, 266 00:18:43.359 --> 00:18:47.640 she said in a statement following the ruling. World Athletics, 267 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:51.960 the body that regulates international track and field competitions, issued 268 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:55.240 a rule in twenty nineteen requiring participants in the women's 269 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:58.640 four hundred, eight hundred meter and fifteen hundred meter races 270 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:01.680 to have a low level of testosterone in their bodies 271 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:05.359 and to want togo six months of hormone therapy if 272 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:12.680 their natural testosterone levels are high. Why to try to 273 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:18.759 make sense of torturing trans women? Why that's why to 274 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:21.799 try to make sense of this. We don't have the 275 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:29.559 natural I mean, yeah, anyway anyway, because they can't make 276 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:31.440 sense of any of it. You know, some people do 277 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:34.480 have a naturally, you know, different set of hormones that 278 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:41.119 does not it's what they naturally walk around with. But 279 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:45.720 if you're gonna fuck around and keep saying, you know, 280 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:49.960 hormones matter, and this matters, and that matters, and that, 281 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:52.839 I mean I understood it where we're concerned, I get it, 282 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:57.000 you know. And and but the athletes who were complying 283 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:00.319 with the rules, likely atomas are being stripp to their 284 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:04.319 metals by cowards like you know pen. It's like indiference 285 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:05.599 to this tyrant. 286 00:20:05.759 --> 00:20:09.559 If you're creating these arbitrary rules based on nonsense and 287 00:20:09.599 --> 00:20:12.799 shit that's not actually real, then you find yourself hopping 288 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:15.359 from foot to foot trying to like find ways to 289 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:19.480 support the damn rules, and nobody benefits and nobody wins. 290 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:22.799 Maybe that's the point we're trying to eliminate happiness. 291 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:29.680 Yeah, she has x y chromosomes rather than the typical 292 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:35.920 XX pairing a natural variant. She has undescended gonuts that 293 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:40.559 she didn't know she had until two thousand and nine, 294 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:44.400 and they want her in order to continue racing as 295 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:47.039 a woman. She was told she needed to have surgery 296 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:48.359 to remove them. 297 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:50.119 So does that make her intersex? 298 00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:53.720 She was yeah, okay, she was healthy, loved her body, 299 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:58.240 and it had made her champion. Why must I go 300 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:01.759 and mutilate it to conform to someone else's rules. She 301 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:05.440 did not to take medication to artificially lower her body's 302 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:09.359 natural testosterone levels in order to meet world athletics requirements. 303 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:12.839 She began to feel sick almost as soon as she 304 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:14.400 started taking the medication. 305 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:18.400 I was gonna ready to say, because that's not what 306 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.720 she should be doing for her body, right. 307 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:23.359 Because a well and a twenty twenty Human Rights Watch 308 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:26.839 report found that what female athletes from Africa and Asia 309 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:32.359 have disproportionately been subjected to sex testing, gender verification, or 310 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:37.880 femininity testing. She has rejected the intersects label to describe 311 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:42.279 her bodily condition. I've been called a hermaphrodite. I had 312 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:45.599 to walk back out into the world with this thing 313 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:49.160 hanging around my neck. I wasn't oblivious to the stairs 314 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:52.240 and whispers from other runners. I wasn't going to take 315 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:56.359 on an identity that did not fit my soul because 316 00:21:56.359 --> 00:21:59.400 some doctors had taken my blood and images of my organs. 317 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:05.759 I was not amaphrodite or anything other than a woman. Yes, 318 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:09.599 but if we're talking about what we mean by intersex, yes, 319 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:12.640 this is what we mean. The hermaphrodite is a very 320 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:15.880 well that's at dated term anywhere, derogatory term rate. I 321 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:18.039 wouldn't use that word, but to say that you know 322 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:25.200 she was born intersex. Yeah, there's with sex characteristics generally 323 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:28.000 considered both male and female. Yes, that is that is 324 00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:33.079 the definition. You know, It's not about identifying us, it's 325 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:36.359 that's the definition, right, Yeah. 326 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:39.119 That being I said, she feels in her soul that 327 00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:41.519 she is a woman, said, damn it, she's a woman, you. 328 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:46.799 Know, and clearly has you know, that's how that corresponding 329 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:52.680 body parts. She just has a little extra, right exactly. Yeah, yeah, 330 00:22:52.880 --> 00:23:01.160 And and then you know, we have to have these ridiculous, invasive, 331 00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:02.839 disgusting discussion. 332 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:05.759 One could argue, that's how you would describe trans people, 333 00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:07.599 men and women with a little extra. 334 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:11.519 That's how I describe. 335 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:14.359 Doesn't sound like a bad thing to me. 336 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:15.519 I am more than a woman. 337 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:21.599 Ah, come on, Aliah, Actually that was the bee gees, 338 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:22.039 I think. 339 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:28.680 But yeah, well it's also okay, but yeah, yeah, I 340 00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:32.920 mean people come in all these variants and always have 341 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:36.599 and always will, you know. But we we want to 342 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:41.279 shove this world into the binary so fucking hard and say, 343 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:44.559 you know, and all this anyway. We have a story 344 00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:47.319 a little bit later on in Nonsense about you know, 345 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:50.720 just how much these fucking idiots actually do support women 346 00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:52.799 in sports. 347 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:54.759 You know, would have made like made this whole case 348 00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:58.119 go by smoother or quicker and a lot less expensively. 349 00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:01.119 What minding their own fucking business. 350 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:04.440 Oh my god, So often, you know, so often, and 351 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:07.039 it's just, you know, the people who act like they 352 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:13.720 care don't give a spit about women's running. Anyway, she 353 00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:17.480 got money and good on her exactly, and you know, 354 00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:20.440 we'll see where this goes. We'll just see where this goes. 355 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:25.000 Let's see what else they got. 356 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:30.279 So Boston unveils a new park honoring the slain trans 357 00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:36.240 woman who inspired the Trans Day of Remembrance. The Rita 358 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:40.480 Hester Community Green was designed to be a quote joyful, 359 00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:46.240 inclusive space made for connection and year round fun. I 360 00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:52.880 like it, yeah, Rita Hester is the park's namesake, and. 361 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:57.400 It's located in Allston Yards where Hester lived. Yes, when 362 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:00.880 in nineteen ninety she was stabbed to death in her park. Yes, 363 00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:04.440 she was thirty four years old. The killer has never 364 00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:09.440 been found shocker. Her death inspired the creation of the 365 00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:13.240 International Trans Day of Remembrance. A plaque at the park 366 00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:17.359 reportedly reads, after Rita's life was tragically taken in an 367 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:21.680 act of violence. Her legacy inspired the Transgender Day of Remembrance, 368 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:27.720 observed worldwide every November twenty. The day honors the lives 369 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:32.480 lost to anti transgender violence and reaffirms a global commitment 370 00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:36.240 to kindness and equality. I like it. 371 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:37.960 It's a legacy for you, though. 372 00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:42.599 Yeah, you know, at this point in history, this is 373 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:47.160 more important than ever. Notable is that earlier this year 374 00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:50.839 that Boston City Council voted twelve to one in favor 375 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:54.680 of a resolution declaring the capital city a sanctuary for 376 00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:59.680 LGBTQ plus people, meaning it will not enact anti LGBTQ 377 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:04.200 plus policies or comply with federal demands to do so work. 378 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:09.279 The resolution codifies LGBTQ plus protection at the local level 379 00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:14.319 and denounces policies that will undermine access to essential gender 380 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:19.480 affirming healthcare, reproductive services, and HIV AIDS prevention and treatment. 381 00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:24.680 So good all the way around, indeed, and uh yeah, 382 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:29.000 but on them, I like it. 383 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:30.359 It's next. 384 00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:36.160 I gotta chuckle out of Norwegian daughter of Norwegian princess. 385 00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:42.160 Becomes Did you tell that to Countries? 386 00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:44.319 I don't think I've ever told it on the podcast 387 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:50.880 Countries first royal to come out. Let's do the story 388 00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:55.160 for maud Angelica Bain earned the title of Bravest Women 389 00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:58.799 in Norway in twenty twenty, and she continues to exact 390 00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:02.279 that bravery. The daughter of a Norwegian princess has become 391 00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:04.799 the first member of the country's royal family to come 392 00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:08.240 out as a member of the LGBTQ plus community. In 393 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.440 an Instagram post, twenty two year old Maud, the daughter 394 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:17.079 of Martha Louise of Norway, granddaughter of King Harold and 395 00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:21.359 Queen Sonya, fifth in line to the throne, identified herself 396 00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:25.240 as bisexual while wishing her followers a happy Pride. Work 397 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:29.160 all right. She shared photos of herself at a Pride 398 00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:31.400 celebration decked head to toe in the colors of the 399 00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:32.599 bisexual flag. 400 00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:36.359 Happy Pride from a bisexual person, she wrote, According to 401 00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:41.359