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Speaker 1: It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this. Welcome to

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the Gamesticides podcast. This is the podcast where we decide

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everything happening in the world of video games, so you

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never have to think for yourself. I'm your host, Jeff

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grub and with me is Mike Manati. In today's episode,

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Battlefield six is happening, it's coming out, it's launching, the

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baby was a pickment thing, and Mount rushmore of multiplayer

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first person shooters. We will get to all of that

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in due time. First, Mike, how are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I think I'm okay. I feel like I should be sick.

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I feel weird, but I don't feel sick, cause last

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night I felt very sick. I felt the most like,

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oh I'm getting sick. I've ever fell in my life.

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Was just shivering uncontrollably for like ten minutes and had

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a massive headache and then had a hot flash. It's

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like it's like I went through the whole cycle of

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a flu in a few hours and now I'm like fine,

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which is strange. I don't know. I took a nap

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before this, so I still like and that went fine,

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So I don't know. Maybe it's maybe it's nothing, So.

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Speaker 1: You're not like waiting for the other shoe to drop there.

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You're just like maybe it went away, and you're you

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sound still worried about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think because I am worried about that other shoe.

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There might be a shoe still. It might be a

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shoe somewhere dangling above my head.

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Speaker 1: Got to mind the shoe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna smack me in the face, but that's okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm got shoe.

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Speaker 2: House didn't blow up?

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Speaker 1: Was that Christian? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I said, shoe?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the shoe of Damocles. Yes, it hangs heavy over

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the head of our hero Mike Manatti. Hopefully he will

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be able to escape unscathed. Yeah, I look, I'm feeling fine,

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but I can tell the kids are like getting various

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kinds of coals, the colds they got, the minati sneezing happening,

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lots of sneezing constantly over here. Could be allergies, could

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be something else. It is hard to tell. STEP's not

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feeling good. She keeps saying she's not feeling great. So

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I'm sure it will come for me as we we're

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gonna go over. We got a little trip planned this

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weekend for Steph's birthday, so I'm sure I will be

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sick in time for that. Cannot wait. It'll be a

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good time. But you know what, let me time. I'm

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feeling good now, so let's have a good show and

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All right, big topics of the week, Mike, you ready, Okay?

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Battlefield six reviews they're in. This seems like the game's

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doing pretty good, although you want to I guess the

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talking point online. I've noticed this a little bit. IGN

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separated the single player review from the multiplayer review. I

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get it. I understand why you do that because there

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are some people who just want to know how good

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one thing is and how good the other thing is.

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But it is one package, so people are like, this

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is confusing. I don't know, did you see any of this?

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Speaker 2: I did see any this, but now I hear about it,

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I am it is like, yeah, that's weird, Like what

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which one do they put on? Open crik? Do they

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put both of them on there? Let them even out.

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? I mean, but.

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Speaker 2: It's it's also Battlefield campaigns have usually been such a

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nothing burger ever since Bad Company, no one has really

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cared about them. It's easy to dismiss them even though

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they're terrible, but they should still be judged on that.

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They are, they still bother making them part of me.

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I wonders why it seems like they could say themselves

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a whole lot of trouble. It's like a lot of

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traditional sabotaging, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the original Battlefield didn't have a single player campaign,

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right at least?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what Field didn't have. Yeah, that's what a

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Field didn't have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it got maybe maybe got dinged for that, and

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that's why they put it in here. But personally, I

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blame Mikey R O'Leary for this. It's all his fault.

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He just pointed out that this is the way they've

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been doing it for like seven years. I've definitely. I've

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noticed it before. I do wonder like what has happened?

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You know what it is. It's like the game's getting

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good reviews from a bunch of other places, and then

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I think their single player review was lower and like

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shocked some people, and they're like, what's going on here?

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It's just the single player I get like they so

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they feel like the outlier here, and then then then

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that's the excuse, so it becomes a talking point either way.

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Battlefield five seems like it's doing just fine. I played

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some of it today. I didn't do any of like

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the traditional battlefield modes. I did like the close quarters

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combat basically battlefield, but it's call of duty that was

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that was fun. I had a lot of fun playing

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that game that way. I was in there was some

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other journalists, Yeah, some people that kind of went in

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there and he was. They rescued me a couple of times,

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which I appreciated. Came I was getting shot by the

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one other human player on the other team because it's

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a lot of bots right now. Christian, you've been playing

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as well. These reviews sound good to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's there two They're too kind to

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that single player because it's atrocious, is so boring, it's

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such a waste of time. Yeah, to the point is like,

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what do you even what is the point too?

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Speaker 1: How long is it?

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Speaker 3: It's not mentioned. It might be like, I don't know,

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like three hours long. I have no idea. I lost.

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Speaker 4: It's not that it's short. It's short, and it's the

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sake on in Endy he tells you, hey, you want

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to uninstall it?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, hell, yeah, you know, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Still hell yeah, get off by hard drive. Yeah, it's funny,

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it is.

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Speaker 4: It is such a bad it's I don't know, for

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people who wants to know what the story is issues

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all of the sudden, NATO is it's not about America anymore.

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Speaker 3: It's about NATO as a whole.

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Speaker 1: It's about NATO. Yeah, about Rascal's dad. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: All of the sudden, these parks are Mada, This PMC

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shows up and the country is It's like World War three,

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but it's instead of being like, you know, I don't

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know in the Neo Nazis versus No Neo Nazis NATO versus,

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these parks are matter they're fighting for, like controlling the

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security of the countries or whatever.

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Speaker 3: The fuck.

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Speaker 4: It's just so fucking it's bad. It's it's dumb and

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it's boring, and you people shouldn't even check that.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like the opening cut scene is uh,

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kind of just made my eyes glaze over it. So,

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oh my god, is so much nothing here? Uh yeah,

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I mean people are gonna play this game with the multiplayer,

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and that does seem like it's going to deliver. Yeah,

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and I'm you know, like I said, I had fun

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with that. Seems like these review scores are a good

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place for this game to start. I bet it's going

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to do excellent, just even despite like a Call of

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Duty dropping a free week of Black Ops six the

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day before this. I think I's supposed to spot to

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be starting now, even though that's happening to try to

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distract from Battlefield that that Battlefield does.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fine, what I was about to say. Yeah, Yeah,

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I also played the multiplayer a lot, and I mostly

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play against bouts and journalists, which are like kind of bugs. Yeah,

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And yet what I was saying is I really like

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the progression in this game. I don't know, I didn't

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like Field. Yeah, it's just you if you like one

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like one. I was about to say job, because I'm

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thinking for a final fantasippeal. If you like one class,

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you can choose play that class, and you would look

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like a like a specialty for that class and not

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gonna start really like that. If you like, if you

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play in sniper and you are you're one of those

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that instead of like just shooting from far away, you're

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more like moving around guy, and and you might look

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like as an upper rifle that is more like like

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just more movable than just stationary. So it's yeah, it's

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just really good, really good about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm but I don't know how much I've been

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into like a progress like the meta progression sort of

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thing and a multiplayer shooter in like a very long time.

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I remember loving it in Call of Duty four and

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then being like it's really good, yeah, so new right

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exactly yes, and then be like, Okay, they've replicated and

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made this fun and many of the following games maybe

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never the same magic because it wasn't Call of Duty four.

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But I do feel like maybe I'm in the mood

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for something like that, But of course I have to

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dedicate so much time it's hard to hard to justify

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something like that titan Fall two was. I did spend

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a lot of time in that bread lunch, even more

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time in titan Fall one.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, Yeah, tits amazing. But I played so much Tecndfall

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one multiplayer.

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Speaker 1: Yep, good game. All right, let's keep going here. Into

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says it's close to you Pickman videos where Nintendo picture

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short films rather than a game or movie teaser. Mike,

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you called it you basically exactly what you said. I

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think we were like, would you kind of explain it

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like that? I think we were all kind of on

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board with like, oh, that could easily be what this is.

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Let Nintendo stretch their legs with this movie studio production

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company that they acquired. Yeah, so we should expect more

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shorts from from them. So I guess how do you

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feel about this? These first two really just one short

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and where they go from here?

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Speaker 2: I mean, the first one was fine. There was something

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about it that's, like, you know, we said this, it's

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so of that very specific Hollywood CG animated movie style

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that it almost feels like it's zapped out a bit

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of the nintendoness from Pickmen. Sure, even just even just

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the human characters yeah, yeah, the human characters, especially even

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just like the slight manufication of Pickmen. I don't know,

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it was fine. It wasn't like a very ambitious thing,

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you know, a cute thing with Pickman and a baby,

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Uh sure, whatever, But I guess I'm curious to see

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what they do with say, like a Metroid, right are, Like,

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are they also making one that might come out around

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my trod prime for I'm guessing not. But what would

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their take on a Metroid style thing look like? Or

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f zero or we just gonna kind of see more

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of like the you know, kind of the more family

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friendly stuff, the marios. I mean what it was a

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look at these people are do with Zelda style shorts,

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and I guess I'm kind of curious too, Like, Okay,

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I think this is you know, them testing things out,

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but what is the ultimate application of this stuff. Is

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this so Nintendo can make their own in house movies

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or is this to up the cinematics standards for their

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video games. I'm so curious where this is all going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it definitely has a different flavor than

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those original Pickman shorts, which you know, had a very

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interesting story to the creation, like Miamoto used flip note studio.

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the d s I or something on the DSi, So

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he might be that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so he like storyboarded it out using that

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and then had an external studio kind of make that stuff.

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So he basically directed those those shorts. He basically like

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storyboarded them out himself, or at least one of them.

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this space and being like, hey, we're going to make

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one of these things in the style of a Hollywood

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h CGI animation studio. Yeah. I think it's fun. I

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think it's It's clearly something Nintendo did to get attention,

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and it worked. I got a lot of attention. I

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don't need this to be tied to a game. I

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don't need this to be tied to a movie. I

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really love those original Pickman shorts. Watched it a million

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times with my kids. So I think it's fun that

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Nintendo continues to be in this business. I just would

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like to I don't I guess maybe I hope that

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they hit a brisk pace of putting these things out,

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and that would be, I don't know, a welcome thing

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for me. Let's see here. And then Discord response to

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claims that two million ID photos have been acquired by hackers.

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They claim it's not quite exactly that number or government

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IDs necessarily, but let's get into it. Alex Hopley Game Reactor.

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As soon as age verification came out about people worried

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about how their faces could be used not only by

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companies and service providers, but by hackers and those that

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might look to make a quick buck by stealing and

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selling data. Now it seems we've seen the first crack

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in age verification, as it's reported that were around one

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point five terabytes of photos have been stolen from a

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third party customer support system that Discord was using zendesk stuff.

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And these are the photos that like people would take,

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like selfies to prove that their face matched their ID.

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So it is still identifying, you know, a photos or whatever,

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probably something people could do something with, you know. The

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Discord does not admit that government IDs themselves were involved

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in this, but still there's a lot of other various

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kinds of idan information. Hey, I hate this. This is

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something we have to we've started having to deal with

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in Ohio. Have you like seen that Blue Sky thing

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when you go into your DMS being like, hey, verify

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your age. I wonder if that's something that depends on

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your ISP.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I've seen that for Blue Sky.

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I'm trying to feel like if I've seen that or somewhere.

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But yeah, it's annoying, it's stupid. I don't see how

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it's protecting or helping anybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean my thing and I talked about

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this on Games Mornings, is this is a This sort

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of thing has happened in the past where they try

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to put on strict government and applied or required age

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requirements onto various industries, various communications industries, and that is

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always in the past been ruled a violation of the

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First Amendment. This clearly is just that it is, you know,

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I shouldn't have to prove to anyone that I am

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an adult so that I can communicate with other adults,

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that is yeah. And the idea then that these this

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stuff can be hacked, well, of course it can, and

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of course we're here, but but we don't have to

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like even get to that point to point out this

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this sucks. Should not be required and it's abridging my

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right to free speech and probably shouldn't have it in

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the first place. It seems like it might get worse

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with this sort of thing, just because, uh, this is

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going to quickly spread. You know, Ohio is just one

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state that has it. There, this is a there's similar

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stuff in Virginia, there's similar stuff in Mississippi, similar stuff

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throughout various places in Europe. Maybe maybe it's just the UK,

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but maybe some other places in Europe. And it's really

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just kind of the start. Like many the compliance has

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only just begun, so you know, Discord might be doing this,

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but then it's going to be Microsoft and Sony and

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Nintendo and all these other companies that might have to

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record a similar stuff in the future. And so there's

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just gonna be these treasure tropes of data sitting around

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and h that stuff's going to be very valuable to hackers.

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One point five terabytes of photos people can do, like

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especially if you can tie that to other people's names

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and identities. Yeah, you could do a lot with that.

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Speaker 4: They've been posting the photos already. They're like, it's fucked up,

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Like this is messed up. In Europe is also fucked up.

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But they have other ways to corroberate. I s my

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friends from Europe. They say that, oh, I bought this

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game like five, like over five years ago, and because

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you have to be like over thirteen to buy the game,

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that way you can check lit. You don't have to

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send your ID type stuff. It shouldn't happen, but maybe

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like find another way so people don't have to share

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the goddamn government ID with you.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if something has.

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Speaker 1: There's like some sites and I can't remember if it's

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like Twitter or YouTube or something where it's like we

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are monitoring your behavior and we can kind of tell

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if you're an old fuck or not. And if you

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if we can tell if you're old, you're probably gonna

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be fine. But if there's a question, we might require

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you to give us an ID. Now, if you engage

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with like gaming videos on YouTube, that probably triggers it.

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That's been a thing recently. Yeah, this this things and

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discord say, hey, it was this third party platform we're using,

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but I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You got to take responsibility for this stuff right, so

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what I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's the big stuff that we have written down here, Mike. Uh,

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just overall, how you're feeling about the you know, gaming

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right now? About going into the holidays with a bunch

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of games to play Boy. There's been like someone will

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pointed out, like there's a bunch of stuff about the

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Hit Game Pass, which you know a lot of people

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are canceling, but those games will come out in other ways.

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I might play them on PC. It's just kind of

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been a NonStop onslot of game releases and kind of

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a NonStop onslot of various kinds of bad news for

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these companies who make games. How are you feeling overall?

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Speaker 2: I feel good, but yeah, you know, I feel like

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I'm doing okay. Some stuff is popping up, like appslom

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that wasn't necessarily super on my radar then got really

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good views. It's this beat them up. I like that genre,

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so definitely want to go check that out. I'm making

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good progress with Silent Hill. F there's a bit of like, Okay,

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what's coming out that I think I do really care about.

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I want to try Ninja Guide in four you know,

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I gotta try the new Pokemon even though it's like

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that that's a game that doesn't feel real to me

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for some reason, like that's not a game coming out

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next week. Shut up what you're talking about. It's really weird. Yeah, yeah,

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and it absolutely is. I still what's what's kind of

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getting to be the most are the big rbgs that

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I want to still play, like you know, say, Tactics

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Chows in the Sky that remake, and it's like, oh boy,

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finding some everthing, and then even the Dragon Quest remixer

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coming out relatively soon, and I'm very excited about the

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Dragon Quest one into HG two D so those I'm

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probably certainly making time for. I've definitely had a point

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TDY too, because I am still playing it and I've

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been playing it kind of, you know, like a run

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or two just on my computer every day, and every

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time I feel like, oh, little guilty, but I'm like, huh,

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I do want to play. This. Part of me is

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wondering how much even want to really care about Battlefield

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six because I don't. I don't know the fact that

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I was bad at the beta, which is more of

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a me problem than the games where I'm like, well

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then who.

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Speaker 1: Cares any excuse to skip on a game right now,

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right like that's how where I'm at, Like any excuse,

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give me an excuse, and I'll skip on on it.

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I'll have five other options right away, including things that

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came out of nowhere like absolom. So, yeah, I get it.

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You know, I'll handle the quick look of Battlefield six mics.

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You don't need to worry about it. Yeah, yeah, I

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got you back. So someone pointed out there was Alarmo news.

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I didn't even see this Kirby in the forgott the

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Land is coming to Nintendo's soundclock colon Alarmo. I still

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have my alarmo plug Dan, how about you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I still use it. So I was

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kind of wondering when we were going to get another

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one of these, actually, So I'll be pretty happy to

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check out some Kirby sounds for sure. I'll I've been

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doing the same one for too long now. I've been

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relying on just the specific Mario Kart eight Deluxe one

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that is the Cloudy Top or whatever restract that kind

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of does the you know, galaxy theme. But waking up

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to that with too much that I'm where I'm gonna

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start resenting that song. So I have to switch it

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up anyways.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, that's so. That's always a worry. Although I

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had Cruising Blast. Yeah, Cruisse Blast is my theme song

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for a real long time. Uh And I never grew

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to resent that song, Mike, and I never could.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I resented it immediately.

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Speaker 4: Can you fuck with that thing and put like weirdsh

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it on it? Like the I don't know, like they cheers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure someone's hacked it by now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be pretty funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of I think it's an SD card

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slaughter a USB porta.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, if it has an car, you're going to

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destroy that ship right away? Is you know who they are?

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Speaker 1: All right? That? You know? That does? Are the big topics.

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We don't have to prolong anything. We're getting plenty of

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super chats and we can talk about what the people

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want to talk about. Let's take a break. We'll come

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right back and do that. We're back, let's get into

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the super chats. Mike, go ahead and take it away,

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all right.

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Speaker 2: First off from Simon from Saskatchewan. I never realized that

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ballin wonder or Wonderland is also a co op game.

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Has to be local though, is danaware of this, Ohio

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co op co op makes it somehow worse to play.

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What the hell is the co op in ballin Wonder?

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Speaker 1: Now, I feel like it's like a like a like

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an assist mode, but I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw like there's two us world, It's not

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like there's two of those fuckers running around, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so that would be a nightmare. Now, great,

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now there's two of them. I could I couldn't handle that,

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but hey, if there is, maybe maybe we'll find a

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reason to play that, for play the co op mode

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for Blake Club or something. Eventually that game will be

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on Blake Club in one form or another, and we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Us are maybe surprised it's not already. Simon's back says,

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I love to see a competition stream between Giant Bomb

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and Nexlander. However, you two and Dan must play against Alex.

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If he beat Alex, would he retaliate?

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, yeah, I I never want to do

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anything that might upset Alex, But I also think Alex

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would not be a poor sport about any such thing.

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He's a grown man and can handle anything. So no,

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I think we'd be just fine.

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Speaker 2: And now correct says, I forgot about Outer Worlds two

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coming out this month, and Devil Finds Keeper coming out

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next Friday, Ninja Guid and Forest also this month. Somehow, guy,

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outer Worlds two is what I actually do keep forgetting about.

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I was much more excited for a vow than Outer

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Worlds two for some reason. I don't know if that's

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a weird thing or what. Oder World's two could be

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a very good game. It's Acidian making one of those

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you know, you know, the whole thing with the other

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one's as basically fall out, and this one will be that,

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but probably even bigger and closer to that. I'm curious

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how people will receive this one, because you know about

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definitely kind of came and went a bit and I

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liked it, but even like I think my opinion of

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it was a bit higher than it is right now.

470
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,200
Even it seems like other people started out a lower

471
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,400
place than I did with that one. But uh, I

472
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,440
don't know. People liked Outer world one, and you know,

473
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,480
I don't hear something. They don't hear it too much,

474
00:23:25,519 --> 00:23:27,119
but they did, especially when you go back and look

475
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,839
at those twenty nineteen Game of the yearless like I

476
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,599
do what are you expecting from Outer World two.

477
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,839
Speaker 1: I think I'm expecting it to be like a much

478
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,720
better version about a world to one. I think it's

479
00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:39,160
going to realize a lot more, and I think it's

480
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,599
probably going to maintain itself throughout the experience a little

481
00:23:41,599 --> 00:23:43,880
bit better than Outer Worlds one did. I think that's

482
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,880
the reason why it becomes an afterthought for a lot

483
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,640
of people, is it had a hot start the game itself,

484
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,720
Like literally playing the game starts off really like hot

485
00:23:52,759 --> 00:23:55,160
and just like, oh, this is good stuff, and then

486
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,400
it just doesn't maintain that and by the end it's like, Okay,

487
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,279
this game went from a strong eight down to a

488
00:24:00,319 --> 00:24:03,720
seven or whatever. And I bet they will have the

489
00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:06,400
time and where withal in the budget now being you know,

490
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,960
fully under Microsoft this entire time with a game that

491
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,559
that Microsoft probably believes end because the first one did

492
00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:16,200
really well and now Private Division is not not publishing it,

493
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,000
it is Microsoft money. My guess would be that this

494
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,039
is a little bit better than that game was, or

495
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,039
quite a bit. It's gonna be noticeably better. All those games,

496
00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:26,400
all three of those games, those are the ones I

497
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,000
was talking about. The game pass games. You can see

498
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,759
why they're like, now is the time to raise the

499
00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:32,759
prices because there's gonna be all these games and then

500
00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:36,839
Call of Duty soon after that. It just feels. It

501
00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:39,119
feels bad when it when it's when it's so obvious

502
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,880
like that, like you don't I'm not gonna want to

503
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,880
miss this month on game Pass. Here's a bunch of

504
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,880
reasons why it's worth this thirty dollars. Right, that's that's

505
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,079
three games and then Call of Duty next month. Yeah,

506
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,640
that's a bummer. Boy.

507
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,319
Speaker 2: I think I had no idea that Keeper from Double

508
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,759
Find was coming out even this year. Gosh, that's coming out.

509
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:03,559
Speaker 1: Another one that, like I saw the trailer I filed,

510
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,480
was like, oh, I'm excited about that. Looks like my

511
00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:09,200
kind of shit a little bit. Uh, No one's talking

512
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,599
about it so and really they're not even talking about

513
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,839
it yet, so we'll see. I'm looking forward to playing

514
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,880
it though. Okay.

515
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:22,519
Speaker 2: Then next one here is from it to Morales. He says, one,

516
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:25,480
I mostly play physical games, but when Xbox was giving

517
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,359
out games through games with gold Bus the introduction and

518
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,359
game passed sales, I did accumulate a small digital library. Now,

519
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,119
with the price increase, I cancel Game Pass. Part two

520
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,039
but I still get EMO notifications for on game or

521
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,200
for games on sale. Is it even worth buying games

522
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,480
on Xbox at this point? Well, I still have access

523
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:46,640
next year. I don't think you're gonna lose access to

524
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,000
your Xbox And so is that how that works? You

525
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,960
know about more than me.

526
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:55,039
Speaker 1: Jeff, So no, no, Or you're like, well, I lose

527
00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:58,279
access next year. So you lose access if you don't

528
00:25:58,319 --> 00:26:00,519
buy the game. But if you're buying the game, even

529
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,799
with the discount on game Pass, you'll still own the

530
00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:06,960
game even if your game Pass laps is at that point.

531
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,759
I think for me, the troubling thing will be like

532
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,920
if you buy anything that has any sort of multiplayer

533
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,880
component and then you want to play that online at

534
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,440
some point, but you want to cancel game Pass, and

535
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,640
it's like, well, I want to play online, so I

536
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,400
need some sort of version of Xbox Live. So I'm

537
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,880
at least paying ten dollars per month, and it's at

538
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,119
that point maybe I should be paying more, and I

539
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,720
just don't want to have that conversation with myself usually,

540
00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:33,039
so it's like I'm going to go to the place

541
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:36,640
where multiplayer is free and try to get my library

542
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,359
built up. Over there and not worry about it. It's

543
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,200
that is not to say that you should have any

544
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,640
concerns about these games going away. I certainly do not

545
00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:48,759
feel that way. Microsoft will want to run a service

546
00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:52,079
in a store long after they're out of the hardware business,

547
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,319
and those games will be available and one way or another,

548
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,079
whether that's just cloud or for you to download on

549
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,000
PC or something like that, or you know, their new

550
00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:04,039
console that is a PC underneath.

551
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: Maybe Jess Murdoch says, the video game industry is on fire,

552
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,640
the world about to explode. Meanwhile, Giant Bomb, now watch

553
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,079
this drive. Love you guys. I love Golfleek. Thank you Jess.

554
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,079
Have you been joining golf weleek rab? Was there everything

555
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:18,799
you're hoping for?

556
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it's like you know me, I always want

557
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,640
to do more and more and more. But we got

558
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,200
the stuff we have done has been a lot of fun.

559
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,880
I feel like we did get quite a few streams

560
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,839
out of it. There's still more fun to be had tomorrow.

561
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,319
And yeah, it does feel like a little bit of

562
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,559
a ray of sunshine as all this other stuff is happening.

563
00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:36,359
And I do I think that is a strength of

564
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,440
Giant Bomb. Is that we don't have to be necessarily

565
00:27:39,519 --> 00:27:43,279
tied to the latest new release. The stuff that, like

566
00:27:43,319 --> 00:27:46,200
the things that make us makes our streams and our

567
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:49,119
site special, is not necessarily like that. We're going to

568
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,680
get the hottest new coverage. We often will. We'll be there.

569
00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:54,680
We're excited about new games, but a place where people

570
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,480
can sort of retreat and get away from some of

571
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,680
this noise and not have to worry about what shitty

572
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,920
thing you doing, what shitty thing E is doing, what

573
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,920
shitty thing Microsoft and Activision are all doing. You can

574
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,960
just come hang out here. We can play good games

575
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,640
that we know are fun and kind of hit. That

576
00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:14,720
vibe of people hanging out and you know, ribbing each other.

577
00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:17,640
It's god. Yeah, okay, we're doing good stuff over at

578
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:18,960
Giant Bond. People should be a part of it.

579
00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:23,759
Speaker 2: Seven golf them streams already, we should have two more.

580
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:25,319
At least.

581
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 4: It's called with Friends in the Table because that's a

582
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,279
fun golf game.

583
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: Golf of friends. That's that's the UPF. That's what we're

584
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,160
into with your friends. Golf with your friends golf. Yes,

585
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,559
thank you, I keep forgetting that it's golf with your friends.

586
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:44,039
Speaker 2: Yes, I will never forgive you I'll tell you what

587
00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:46,079
I think. We certainly had more golf team streams and

588
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,279
we had B theme streams during B week.

589
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:50,759
Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. Yeah, it turns out there's more

590
00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:51,400
golf games.

591
00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:53,039
Speaker 2: Turns out there's more golf games.

592
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

593
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: Next up is lex LETI and your coreredations for what

594
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,319
to play with my six button mega driving short ns

595
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,880
O A boy freelancing at the moment. It's a thing

596
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,160
right now. Yeah, I bet that's rough, and sorry about that,

597
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,519
but absolutely, I mean, like, how many of the nsks

598
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:10,799
even really have How many of those were the six

599
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:13,440
button games? Street Fighters on there? I think? So, yeah, play.

600
00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:18,519
Speaker 1: Comics Zone any game with the six but you can.

601
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:21,279
Speaker 2: But like I assume, Lex, what's some to see the

602
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:23,519
magic of the six button controller? Like some you know?

603
00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:25,759
Speaker 1: But I mean, like game go play a modern street

604
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:28,279
Fighter using that street Fighter collection?

605
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:32,279
Speaker 2: Oh you could do that, huh? That would actually probably

606
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:33,000
feel pretty good?

607
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

608
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, get street Fighter six. Yeah, get get the Cap

609
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:43,000
Gum Fighting collection too, and play Cap versus S and

610
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:44,720
K two. But if you want to play something on

611
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,039
n s O, Comic Zone actually was a six button game. Now,

612
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:51,640
I bet you will not like Comic Zone, but most

613
00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:52,880
people try it anyways.

614
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not great.

615
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,799
Speaker 2: I like it. It's I like, it's not great. No,

616
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:02,759
it's a game that presents as a beat them up

617
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:07,519
and it's it's actually almost more like an inventory adventure game.

618
00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:10,880
Like it's actually weird. Yes, you don't really get that.

619
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,200
It looks awesome.

620
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:14,359
Speaker 1: Though, Yes, it's a fantastic yes, and again I like

621
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,119
it all right.

622
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: Next up here is from excuse Me Hilliard Hendrix. I

623
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:23,559
bought Especially in thirty three on GG and moved my

624
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,759
game pass save over to it. If Microsoft's new pricing

625
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:30,599
is too high to sday, I do want to just

626
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:33,200
exactly what the numbers are, like, what the damage is

627
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,319
over a game pass, if if Disney Plus or lost

628
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:41,079
reportedly like one point five million subscribers for you know,

629
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,160
their bullshit and you got raising the price like this,

630
00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:47,279
and just kind of the bad year Xbox has been

631
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:51,799
having in general, I just wonder what exactly that number

632
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,720
is going down to.

633
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:55,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think people are just looking for an extit

634
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:59,079
ramp and that gave it to them, and it's like, okay,

635
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:02,720
this is the use I need to move my gaming

636
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:06,319
life to another platform and PC is right there and

637
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,400
a lot of these games do have cross saves. Expedition

638
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,720
thirty three certainly does so. Yeah, I bet the numbers

639
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,119
are maybe even surprisingly high. Uh not that they've lost

640
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,960
all of their business or anything, and they could recover

641
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,480
a little bit, but it doesn't feel like it's gonna

642
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,920
be a great recovery. If there is one.

643
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,559
Speaker 2: Really my turning point, I don't think you know that

644
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,160
turning point, but like, definitely where it was full on

645
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,720
bummer state with Xbox for me was the cancelation of

646
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,200
Perfect Dark. I din't't care that much about Perfect Dark.

647
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,480
There's something about them promoting and talking about that game

648
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:39,599
and all the smoke they blew up our asses about

649
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,680
that forever to just be like, well, I'm.

650
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: Like what I agree?

651
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:47,799
Speaker 2: What do you mean you're not gonna see that through?

652
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,200
I found that pathetic and bizarre.

653
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:54,559
Speaker 1: I yes, I definitely was a straw that was breaking

654
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:58,240
the camel's back for me of like, you know, you're

655
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,519
making all these huge investments, and you starting a new

656
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:02,440
studio and you're going to see it through, and you're working,

657
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:04,680
you're paying Crystal and Amics to come in here, and

658
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,079
and this game looks cool in this trailer, even if

659
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:09,519
it is smoking merrors. Maybe there's a chance that this

660
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,279
is the vision. I'm I'm all for it, let's go,

661
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,960
and you guys can't even see it through.

662
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,599
Speaker 2: It's sub bummer if it's like, wow, it just wasn't

663
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:19,279
working out, Like, well, you should have made sure that

664
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:20,559
works a little.

665
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:23,599
Speaker 1: Bit, like you should treat it as like it's not

666
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,799
an option for failure like you should. Yeah, and the

667
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:27,680
fact that you think it's a failure is an option

668
00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:29,880
to like just cancel. It says to me that we're

669
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,559
not really You're not serious about this, and I don't

670
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:34,400
need to be really thinking about you all that much.

671
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:40,119
Speaker 4: Then, remember remember when he was Phil was, Yeah, I

672
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,960
only wait to get out after the the Vampire game,

673
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:45,039
the bad Vampire game.

674
00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:46,279
Speaker 3: There was the Red Fall.

675
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 4: He was the only way I was to make a

676
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,000
lot of good games and then just.

677
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,759
Speaker 3: Streat up going canceling games. Now it's just what happened

678
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:54,920
with that.

679
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,279
Speaker 1: Well, the only way out of out of that game

680
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,119
of Red Fall was to spend a lot of money

681
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:02,920
on Ai. Actually is what it turned out to be.

682
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,119
Speaker 2: Yeah bye, Redfall was that like one of the like

683
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,799
it's not just one turning point, but that was one

684
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:10,440
of the other big turning points, wasn't it.

685
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it's just like one bad domino after

686
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:16,079
another where you know, like you write anything any one

687
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:18,400
of these things in a vacuum, it's like kind of whatever.

688
00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:21,880
But that and Starfield not working out and price increases

689
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,000
and game pass price increases.

690
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:26,599
Speaker 2: And being a big hit and yeah, yes, yeah, yeah,

691
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,839
one thing after the other, and then yeah, the like

692
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:32,119
selling off the Hi Fi Rush studio and all that

693
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,799
just adds up to being the kind of a rotten

694
00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:37,119
smell around all of it that people are like, you know,

695
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:39,920
convinced me to come join the party, and it's like, actually,

696
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,519
everything's telling you, like this party stinks a little bit.

697
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: Yep.

698
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: Next up here is from oh Grug regarding the Giant

699
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,440
Bambathon and or Extra Life. How much will it cost

700
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,240
to make Jan eat one hot dog? You just start

701
00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:56,119
saving money now if this is a thing.

702
00:33:57,319 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: I do not want anyone to get sick from eating

703
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:05,440
too much at any of these things. So five thousand

704
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:06,400
dollars per hot dogs?

705
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: What I'm gonna say, Okay, that makes sense. That'll be

706
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,960
the price of them in a couple of years here

707
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,280
but everywhere else, Yeah, man, Political humor Wiley Dickett says,

708
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,599
I've been giving Microsoft by money since the early days

709
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,840
of Xbox Life Gold. The suck cost fallacy is real.

710
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:26,000
Even after the price increases, I'm struggling to just give

711
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:29,039
up on them and cancel. Yeah, well, everyone seems so

712
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:31,280
soured on it. You know, We've had a lot of

713
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,559
people on here who bid an Xbox fans for a bit,

714
00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:36,320
and they seem they seemed kind of just fed up

715
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,119
with it. Did you do? You know, are there any

716
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,840
like super Xbox faithful still or is everyone kind of

717
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:44,880
resigned to the fate here a little bit?

718
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,679
Speaker 1: There's definitely still going to be faithful out there, and

719
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,599
but they are like even the faithful are asking questions.

720
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:54,360
They're even the faithful are like, yo, uh, you know,

721
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,519
why should I buy this next game? Or why should

722
00:34:57,559 --> 00:34:59,880
I do this? Like Microsoft tell me? And then x

723
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,719
Box sort of like doesn't say anything or just keeps

724
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,960
doing things the way they've been doing it. So I

725
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,480
think even among the faithful that it is a more

726
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:11,159
difficult and difficult time than ever to maintain the faith.

727
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:17,679
Speaker 2: Brian zero zero says, if you can ignore BDS game

728
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,400
pass increase has removed the incentive of beating one or

729
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,079
two games a month for the value prospects tough proposition

730
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,239
at the moment.

731
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:30,199
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's like if people, which you know, everyone

732
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,360
can make their own decision about BDS, and that's the

733
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:36,119
call to boycott Microsoft due to their involvement in the

734
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,480
genocide in Israel, which Microsoft has backed off of to

735
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:44,719
a certain degree, but BDS has not lifted the boycott call. Yeah, Like,

736
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,559
you have to like be so dedicated kind of to

737
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,599
just playing game pass games at this point to get

738
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:51,440
your money's worth. And there's a lot of other games

739
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,360
happening in other places now that you can sustain your

740
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,400
gaming habit through just game pass games. Again, there's many

741
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,639
coming out, Like it's they have done a lot to

742
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:03,039
still make it feel valuable. I don't know if it

743
00:36:03,039 --> 00:36:07,480
feels this valuable that it just starts bucking up against U, Like, oh,

744
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,840
you are asking me to really sort of shepherd this

745
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,159
subscription service so that I feel like I'm getting my

746
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:17,079
money's worth instead of being something that you can kind

747
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:19,559
of just forget about. You kind of can't forget about

748
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:22,480
game Pass. You have to be actively engaged with it,

749
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:24,320
and then that makes it so much easier to be like, well,

750
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,440
then I'm really noticing when I'm not paying getting my

751
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,360
thirty dollars a month worth, So I should just get

752
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,360
out of here. And I think a lot of people

753
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,320
are gonna feel that way.

754
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: Ky related to this, Wiley Jacket says, what finally sold

755
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,440
me is the knowledge that I can get a lot

756
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,159
of value from Steam with thirty dollars a month. And yeah,

757
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:40,559
I mean even if it's not you know, like a

758
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:42,840
big sales month like this is on Steam, there's gonna

759
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,280
be enough sales that, Yeah, thirty bucks will get you

760
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,039
games that you can buy. And I know, like Steam

761
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:51,119
ownership isn't the same as physical owning, but it's more

762
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:51,800
of an ownership.

763
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, game pass is yeah, and it's effectively like, yes,

764
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,960
we get it, I get it, I get it. But

765
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,840
when people say I want to my games, usually they're

766
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,880
fine with what Steam is offering up. And if you

767
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,199
want your physical games compared to that, that's fine too,

768
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,599
of course, but uh boy, Steam Steam deals are really

769
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:11,800
good and people that is like that continues to be

770
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,760
something that you hear is people who come to PC

771
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,639
or they get a Steam deck, like, hey, these Steam

772
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:17,800
sales they really make a difference.

773
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,599
Speaker 2: Hey, gosh, I mean my library and Steam has been

774
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:24,000
getting just gigantic. I picked you know, I pick up,

775
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:26,559
I pick up just weird little games or any sales anymore.

776
00:37:26,599 --> 00:37:30,039
They transport fever too. Some day I want to build

777
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:34,039
montail lines, right, I can't right now, every but that

778
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:39,199
sounds like a nice thing to do someday. Yep, all right,

779
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,840
that's sorry, that's uh, that's it. That's it for now

780
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,239
with the super chats. Got one more, we got more,

781
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:51,559
all says, I can't heat yo, guys, BC. My boyfriend

782
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,119
listen to the radio while he drives. But I'm watching

783
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:57,119
and love everything you do. Sorry, I'm kind of drunk.

784
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,000
Hell yeah, we love to hear it. Have a good

785
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,440
good night. I have a good night. You're gonna You're

786
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,840
doing great. Hang in there, enjoy whatever's on the radio. Oh,

787
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,320
I can't hear you, guys because my boyfriend once I

788
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,840
get it. Yeah, don't worry the break.

789
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: You read exactly what was written there, Mike. You didn't

790
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,480
do anything wrong.

791
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: You're fine, that's right. I did my best. Yeah, I

792
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,199
hope you have a great night on ye kind of

793
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,719
like the race. Do you have a like a local

794
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,199
radio station that you listen to sometimes?

795
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: So I have been and always will be an m PR.

796
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:29,280
I just keep.

797
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 2: You like my friends are you. We might have been

798
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,679
friends in high school. They all listen to you. That's

799
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,719
smart case listening to NPR. Uh. We have a mixed

800
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,480
channel here. I like it because it's like they'll play

801
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:44,599
classic rock, but they will still play their new stuff.

802
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:47,559
So I kind of have some idea what sure, yeah,

803
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:49,480
I think, which is like, you know, I want to know.

804
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:51,559
I want to still kind of know what the big

805
00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:52,519
hits right now are.

806
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, that's usually what it is. It's like

807
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,480
I am MPR, will like give me mostly down the

808
00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:00,519
middle stuff and all, you know, not always but good enough,

809
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:02,880
and then there's usually something interesting on. I like a

810
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,559
lot of their other shows.

811
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: All right, that's it for now. I just want to

812
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,800
spend them more super chats. We will read them for

813
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,440
the end of the show. Thank you so much, everybody.

814
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: All right, let's take another quick break. We'll get set up.

815
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,960
We're going to do a mount rushmore of first person

816
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:25,280
shooter multiplayer games. We'll get into that right after this. Okay,

817
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,360
we are back. Game mess decides Mike Manatti. He's actually no,

818
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:33,559
he's there, he's over there and I'm Jeff Grebb right here. Yeah,

819
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:36,920
I figured it out. Mount Rushmore of first person shooter

820
00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:42,280
multiplayer games, Mike, you know Battlefield six is here. I,

821
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,480
like I said, I was enjoying it. I think this

822
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:47,760
was an interesting one just because there's so many like obvious,

823
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,039
like strong eras and I'm gonna be curious to see

824
00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:53,519
how much do we actually represent that on our Mount

825
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,039
Rushmore or if we go a little bit deeper for

826
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:59,719
various reasons, I don't know. But where do you think

827
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,599
we shoul start with first person shooter multiplayer games?

828
00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:06,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, gosh, there's a lot of places to go. Cho

829
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,000
Call Duty four is the first one that really does

830
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:13,960
pop in my mind. Yeah, I feel like still has

831
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:17,639
established the modern way we play almost all of these games,

832
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,000
right with the progression and everything like that. It feels like, yeah,

833
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:25,159
which we're still in a Call of Duty for multiplayer

834
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:25,920
shooter world.

835
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I am there with you. I would point out, like, yeah,

836
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,400
even as this is the one that was dominant that

837
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:38,559
even as the next sort of phase of first person

838
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:41,599
shooter multiplayer games came about with like Fortnite and PUBG,

839
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,440
Call of Duty didn't really wane. It just sort of

840
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:47,079
joined the party and had its own first person shooter

841
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,119
Battle Royale game, which is not how it's worked before.

842
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:54,039
It's like, no Call Duty replaced Halo or whatever. We'll

843
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:55,719
get to many of those, but I'm gonna just throw

844
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,360
out counter Strike just because it feels like it should

845
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,599
be the second game mentioned here, at least as far

846
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:02,480
as I'm concerned.

847
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:03,119
Speaker 2: I was there.

848
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: I was there a gand off Gandolf.

849
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:07,599
Speaker 2: I was there when all that I mean, I was

850
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:10,920
playing games is Classic constantly. I was like one of

851
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,400
my first really big online multiplayer shooters, and then all

852
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,920
of a sudden, I was like, Oh, there's this new one,

853
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,239
and what's playing counter Strike now? And I was like, well,

854
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,079
that's like this is pretty fun too. Actually, it's still

855
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,719
almost Burson me out. I think I said before that

856
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,760
counter Strike is a game I played a lot of

857
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,320
in nineteen ninety nine, and it still is just kind

858
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,639
of basically.

859
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: It's yeah game. It's still that game. Absolutely. Yeah.

860
00:41:33,039 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: Every time I play it again, I do get like

861
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,480
a little weird, like, boy, other people are still just

862
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:39,679
doing this. Thank you Elli Miracle for the five gift. Yeah,

863
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:41,000
thank you, by the way, appreciate that.

864
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 4: Thank you, Mike, you do you do you have the

865
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,960
like lamb party scene for counter Strike like we did

866
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:50,880
have here, like you know ne Bracil all of this.

867
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was definitely some of that. I don't know

868
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,280
if it was like as big culturally as it might

869
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,599
have been in some other countries, but it definitely existed.

870
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:00,159
Speaker 2: I mean that was like the big moat, like you know,

871
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,159
this was still you know, dial up modem eirh those

872
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,719
It was kind of like in that transition period it

873
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,960
was this one was, but it was.

874
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: Still most Yeah, I'm sure it was like ninety per

875
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,360
dial up modem even even there, you know, a few

876
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,039
years into it. All right, what elsewhere where do you

877
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:15,280
want to go?

878
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: Oh?

879
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? Anything else? Christian?

880
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,039
Speaker 3: No, No, you just remember that it was so huge.

881
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:21,199
Speaker 4: I remember my dad she was dropping me on the

882
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,719
like in summer, dropping me on the in the like

883
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,920
the land cafe. She was like for eight hours, strangees,

884
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:29,440
he will go to the guy paying Look at my son.

885
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:32,400
There's he's gonna be here for eight hours. His shoes county,

886
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:35,400
try to play contrit try all day. Yeah, good memories,

887
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:36,719
all right?

888
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:37,679
Speaker 1: Where you want to go next? Mike?

889
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: Uh, which halo would you do? Would you do? Halo one,

890
00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:44,039
which was which was big on a land sense, or

891
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:47,119
Halo two, which was, you know, when the first big

892
00:42:47,559 --> 00:42:50,280
console online multiplayer games.

893
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: I think I would still do Combat Evolved, just because

894
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:56,280
that's the one where it's like, it was like so

895
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,639
popular that it became like, hey, we can plug this

896
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:04,679
thing into our ethernet port here at college and we

897
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,199
could play against each other here on this this intranet.

898
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,119
And just kind of hearing stories like that something I

899
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:13,239
never really did, but hearing stories like that, I was

900
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,480
always like, Okay, yeah, that's that's how you know a

901
00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:17,559
game is really popping off when people are going to

902
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:20,199
those links and everyone sort of knows that this is

903
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:23,239
something you can do with this game. HULD. You know,

904
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:28,280
like certainly Halo two with Xbox Live is probably also

905
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,039
worth considering for this list. But I do think, like

906
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:33,639
if we're talking about the online shooter, like the shooter

907
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:38,199
that like exists because online it probably is still Call

908
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,039
of Duty four. But I know that's not maybe not

909
00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:43,320
the conversation or maybe not everyone would agree with that.

910
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,840
But I don't know, what do you think I.

911
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: Could see the other way, because you know, I mean,

912
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,039
Halo two launching Xbox Live is it's Yeah, it was huge.

913
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:55,800
It was feeling less important recently, right, but you know,

914
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,039
of course Live was a big deal. And you know,

915
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,000
basically all the Soul online stuff we have today is

916
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:04,119
in that style. It's in that mold.

917
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like the Halo one still like figured

918
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,800
out playing a multiplayer shooter on a console, like.

919
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:13,559
Speaker 2: And I did, what are you talking about?

920
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,159
Speaker 1: Right? Are you gonna take are you gonna take this seriously?

921
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,119
Or are you gonna just go?

922
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: Halo is a very big deal. So I think we

923
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:26,639
put we can put both of them for now if

924
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:28,920
we want to. Yeah, let's let's put both for now. Okay,

925
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:33,000
Halo Combat involved Halo two.

926
00:44:34,159 --> 00:44:36,519
Speaker 1: I okay, I have a question. You asked me a question,

927
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,760
A question for you? Uh Quick three or Unreal Tournament?

928
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,960
And obviously obviously we have preferences, but like I'm Mount Rushmore,

929
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:45,480
what are you thinking?

930
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: I still think Unreal Tournament. Honestly, I don't know if

931
00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:50,639
either of them really make it, but it was interesting

932
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:53,800
because it was they both represented one of the first

933
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,119
times it was like we can actually just make the

934
00:44:56,199 --> 00:45:00,559
multiplayer stuff its own game, and it was controversial the people. Yeah,

935
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,800
you know, the hardcores on like the GameSpy dot com

936
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,599
forums and things like that were up sudden. They thought

937
00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:11,559
it was kind of a weird, greedy move, but they

938
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:14,719
ended up both being good games, but especially Unreal Tournament

939
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,840
it was just and it had sequels that were really

940
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,559
good also, so it's fun stuff. That's Those are definitely

941
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:23,119
the games I think of in this kind of that

942
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:27,000
in between period between like I don't you know, like

943
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:29,360
the Dooms and the Half Life even and then what

944
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,559
we would eventually have with Call of Duty and stuff

945
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:35,440
like that, and between that you had the Unreal Tournament time,

946
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,440
which was a good time. I liked the multiplayer shooters. Then,

947
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,920
I mean this is also kind of the Battlefield period.

948
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,519
And now I'm gonna get put a question to you.

949
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:44,760
Do you think any of the battlefields would really be

950
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:45,960
up for consideration here?

951
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: No, I mean, you know, it's it's worthy of conversation,

952
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,119
but this is the conversation where it's I will point

953
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:56,719
out that there was something about Battlefield that felt very

954
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,960
much like, oh, there there is a huge community there.

955
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:02,599
There's like, uh, it reaches a little bit further than

956
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:06,719
you would even think, Like I remember there's like an

957
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,280
older guy in my neighborhood who was just super into Battlefield.

958
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,920
I'm being like, oh wow, and he's like really, he's

959
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,480
talking about the next one coming out and how he's

960
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,880
gonna get his clan back together, get his buddy's back together,

961
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:17,480
and they were just gonna play a ton of that.

962
00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:21,559
And it's like, okay, yeah, and that is certainly like

963
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,679
worthy of this conversation, but I just don't think it

964
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,559
quite makes it onto the list. It's gonna be a

965
00:46:26,559 --> 00:46:29,199
bit too tough for Battlefield. Yeah, no, I agree, I

966
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,000
mean they were all I think it's it's also it's

967
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,119
also hurt by like later being such a direct competitor

968
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,559
call to call of duty, which is not where it started.

969
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,639
But that's like it's like, honestly, the majority of its

970
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:42,079
history now is being like this call of duty competitor,

971
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:44,679
which is weird for Battlefield. Actually, like for.

972
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: Me, it would I would be thinking about probably just

973
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,599
bowfling on ten forty two, which was was a deal.

974
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,320
I don't know if it's the biggest deal. So I

975
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,719
don't know if it's a Mount Rushmore deal.

976
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,199
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, what else do we got here? Let's see, Uh,

977
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,840
you know, I think there's a first person in Fortnite,

978
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,000
But we're talking about multiplayer first person shooters? Are we

979
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,559
going to consider Fortnite? I honestly don't even remember if

980
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:08,880
there's still like an ongoing first person mode in there,

981
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:12,599
like yeah, okay, well then we consider it. No, okay,

982
00:47:12,599 --> 00:47:15,840
then then then what about PUBG if that? If that,

983
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,079
if that's the the Battle Royale like sort of representative here, yeah, person.

984
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 4: So in Fortnite, the third person is kind of the

985
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,119
default mode. INBOUT and PUBG, the first person is kind

986
00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:29,960
of the default mode if you want to play it.

987
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it became, it became.

988
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,559
Speaker 3: It became that really.

989
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 4: Bad at the beginning, and then they fixed it and

990
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,840
now it's like, for the longest time, he's been the

991
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:37,519
first person.

992
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: So yep, well I thought you was also the third person.

993
00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 4: It is third person, you can't play they had both both,

994
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,920
but like you want to.

995
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: Buy it first person, So so it was it started

996
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,440
third person, like you're you're right, that's why you think that,

997
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,800
And then they introduced first person mode and then quickly

998
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,159
in that community that became like, oh, that's the real

999
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:02,480
way you're supposed to play, and I do I guess

1000
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,039
I would say I would assume those that's the more

1001
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:07,760
populated servers now, but maybe maybe maybe not maybe not yet.

1002
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. It hasn't been there in years.

1003
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's like, I don't know, it almost

1004
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,880
exists a little bit separately from this conversation to me.

1005
00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's like, yeah, I think it's like

1006
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,320
part of the liney, like the linage I'm talking about it.

1007
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,039
It's like, you know, you do have like Quake and

1008
00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:26,400
Golden Eyes sort of happening on two different tracks, and

1009
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,960
then Halo comes around and it's like, oh, Halo's making

1010
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,199
it work on console, and then then has the online

1011
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:33,599
stuff with Halo two and that that's pretty dominant for

1012
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:36,079
quite some time. Well, counter Strike is over there doing

1013
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:39,039
it's thing on PC. A few other shooters as well,

1014
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,360
of course, and then Call of Duty comes along, and

1015
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,559
then Fortnite and PUBG come along, and it's like there

1016
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:48,199
are these Kings of the Mountain. But in terms of

1017
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,119
first person shooters, I think you're right, those batteryale games

1018
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:52,400
maybe are a little bit different. Yeah.

1019
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,599
Speaker 4: If you want to if you want to track this

1020
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:57,400
this like the lineage for for pup G and Forna,

1021
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,159
you kind of go have to go to like Arma,

1022
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:02,400
you know that kind of yeah shooter.

1023
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna talk about Arma in this contract.

1024
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 4: Yeah it was really fine, and I don't know, you

1025
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:11,159
gotta you have to like those type of games to

1026
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,400
enjoy this, but yeah, it's I don't think it matches

1027
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,480
well with this in Mount Rushmore at all.

1028
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,639
Speaker 1: Okay, then Mike, how about Overwatch?

1029
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just thinking. I was wondering first about

1030
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,800
Team Fortress if any of those would be considered, even

1031
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,679
though I think most people would think Team Fortress too.

1032
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,800
But again, like me personally, no Team Fortress Classic. Even

1033
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,480
before that you had just Team Fortress and Team Portress.

1034
00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:38,880
Is important because for my career, that was like the

1035
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,480
first big mod that was so distinct from the original games.

1036
00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:44,119
That was a Quake model, like, oh, this is just

1037
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:46,719
its own game, and then eventually just became its own game.

1038
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:50,360
Something about Team Fortress is Mount Rushmore y. You know,

1039
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,800
it got more popular later, but then he had Overwatch,

1040
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,440
which kind of turned that into you know, Set Fortress

1041
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,039
was a class space shooter and that was different, but

1042
00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:03,719
then you had Overwatch, which was the hero based shooter,

1043
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,039
and that was a big thing for a very long time.

1044
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:07,679
We're still seeing some of that show up and things

1045
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,320
like you know, Valiant wasn't too long ago. Everyone kind

1046
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,400
of stopped the bit trying to make their own Overwatch clothes.

1047
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,119
We still have Marvel rivals and things like that. So

1048
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:18,519
definitely open up another branch there. Boy, did I like

1049
00:50:18,599 --> 00:50:21,840
Overwatch a ton, Jeff in this the first few years,

1050
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,880
just did it. That was my game. I was playing

1051
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,199
that thing like crazy even now, Like you know, for

1052
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,000
a while, I felt kind of bad about it, and

1053
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,519
now it's Yeah, every once in a while I go back,

1054
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:32,400
I'm like, yeah, this is still fun. I'm not I'm

1055
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,199
never gonna be into it the way I was, but yeah,

1056
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,280
I get warm feelings when I think about Overwatch these days.

1057
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will definitely consider it. We'll see how it

1058
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,679
susses out here. You joked about it, But like Golden

1059
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,280
I was crucially important to multiplayer first person shooter gaming,

1060
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,039
and it was kind of like, I don't know, at

1061
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:55,880
a certain point, it felt like a party game where

1062
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,559
it's like we get together and do this thing, and

1063
00:50:59,519 --> 00:51:01,800
first person shooter gaming would go in such a different

1064
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,920
direction or a better direction. It would just kind of

1065
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,559
get figured out long after that game. But it's cultural

1066
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:11,239
impact in that moment was pretty massive. How do you

1067
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,000
really view it here for this list?

1068
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it should I think it should be

1069
00:51:17,039 --> 00:51:19,719
I think it should be strongly considered. Jeff, what I okay?

1070
00:51:20,159 --> 00:51:24,639
Speaker 1: All right? GoldenEye double O seven? All right?

1071
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 2: I mean my joke's aside. Obviously it was a pretty

1072
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,519
big deal in the split screen world, right. I mean

1073
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:35,760
it's similar to Halo in a lot of ways. So

1074
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,480
you know, it's like a game wouldn't have been what

1075
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:41,760
it was without it. It's a little weird because like

1076
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,719
there's not there's not as much of a four track

1077
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,239
with it as there is we'll say, a lot of

1078
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,159
these other ones. Unless you consider Halo the direct successor

1079
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:50,039
to it, which I think a lot of people do.

1080
00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:53,000
Then it's like, well do you do gold Night and Halo?

1081
00:51:53,159 --> 00:51:54,719
I don't know, so what to think about it?

1082
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: Yep? Uh, all right? Do you have anything else you

1083
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,239
want to consider? Right? Like, I stuff like Valorant pops

1084
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,679
in my head, but it's like, no, that's too like

1085
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,480
we already have a representative for those ideas, things things

1086
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,840
along those lines, and not for at least.

1087
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,679
Speaker 2: But just other games I really like, like Titan Fall

1088
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:15,239
Type two. Yeah, absolutely, Doom. Doom that was maybe the

1089
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,920
first one with big online multiplayer, right.

1090
00:52:18,119 --> 00:52:21,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like it was definitely and it was popular,

1091
00:52:21,079 --> 00:52:23,400
but it's like, got that that idea was so exploded

1092
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,800
by if we put Doom on here, it's like, well,

1093
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,039
why isn't Quake on here?

1094
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,079
Speaker 2: Uh, because it's just because Quake is this kind of

1095
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:33,920
Doom again with better graphics and a lot of these

1096
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,079
in terms of the importance of it, because Doom was

1097
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:38,119
the first one that people were really playing online.

1098
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I guess just exploded so much more

1099
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,119
with with Quake two. Right, Yeah, Quake two's were really

1100
00:52:44,159 --> 00:52:46,440
popped off quick three arena, I guess and go, okay,

1101
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:48,320
I guess when you think about it that way, how

1102
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,920
long it was between that stuff? Yeah, I don't know.

1103
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,960
To me, it's like Doom doesn't quite make this. Doom's

1104
00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:56,679
like in the Titan Fall bucket, where it's like, yeah,

1105
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,639
there's some great campaigns and and that's I remember. Primarily

1106
00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:02,599
is a single player game.

1107
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,119
Speaker 2: Doom deserves it more than Golden Night. A lot of

1108
00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:08,079
people do. Multiplayer was a very big thing.

1109
00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:10,159
Speaker 1: It was Yeah, I know, okay, yeah we can put

1110
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,119
them up there. Then sure, let's.

1111
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 2: Think about it. Let's put it up there. I agree.

1112
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,159
I probably won't make it, but I don't know. I

1113
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:17,559
think it should be. I think it should be put

1114
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:18,079
on the list.

1115
00:53:18,639 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: Yep. But yeah, in that case, I am going to

1116
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,360
put quick three up there arena, just so we can

1117
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,480
cover our asses, so we can have this as evidence

1118
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:30,639
that we considered it. When people yell at us, there

1119
00:53:30,639 --> 00:53:31,039
you go.

1120
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,079
Speaker 4: This one, I'm gonna say it doesn't apply to the

1121
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,119
like spirit of the rule of this not rushmore, but

1122
00:53:37,679 --> 00:53:41,920
it does to the letter is destiny, but it's not

1123
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,760
going to hang that. I think the most fun I

1124
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,400
ever had in a multiplayer like first person shood it

1125
00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:48,559
was doing that Destiny race and that kind of stuff.

1126
00:53:49,199 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, I mean like when we get like

1127
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,199
Left four Dead, it's the first person multiplayer I was

1128
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,039
thinking that too, that sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, all right, Mike,

1129
00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:01,760
anything else I think that I think we have four

1130
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,039
the four are here somewhere. Yeah, I think that's that's

1131
00:54:05,199 --> 00:54:10,000
probably right. I agree. So as a reminder to audio listeners, uh,

1132
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:14,119
let's see Call of Duty four, Modern Warfare, Counterstrike, Halo

1133
00:54:14,199 --> 00:54:20,760
Combat Evolved, Halo two, Unreal Tournament, Team, Fortress Classic, Overwatch, GoldenEye,

1134
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:25,559
Double O seven, Doom and Quake three arena. All right, Mike,

1135
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:26,519
where do we go from here?

1136
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:30,159
Speaker 2: I think I think All Duty four is a gimme.

1137
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, let's go. You know, let's control X

1138
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,840
that oh shit.

1139
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 4: Someone in chatt says of it, and it killed me

1140
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,920
because I was think he kills on two. He has

1141
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,480
the best multiplayer mode ever, is so fucking good. Thank

1142
00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:48,679
you for letting even know it's not gonna hang there,

1143
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,920
but put it at least.

1144
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 3: I know you're gonna delite.

1145
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:51,119
Speaker 1: It right away.

1146
00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna kill Christian. I'm sorry, I'm god.

1147
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,239
I'm glad you like that. We're not putting it even

1148
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,719
on the short list.

1149
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,679
Speaker 4: It has literally the best you put a Systems three

1150
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:01,519
piece of ship.

1151
00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: I want to right words face BioShock to no.

1152
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,599
Speaker 4: I wish one day we can like do the run

1153
00:55:15,639 --> 00:55:17,599
the emulator and get you to to play like the

1154
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:21,239
multiplayer kills some two because it is like a special thing.

1155
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,960
Is so much fun, yo, motherfucker Metro, pryme to get

1156
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:25,719
the fuck out of here.

1157
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:32,519
Speaker 1: You Yeah, there's the there's the d S game. Metrod

1158
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:36,679
Prime Hunters is up there now, everybody, Yeah, listen, I

1159
00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:38,920
know some people who are in a clan for Metroid

1160
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,719
Prime Hunters. Okay, I think you're right. Call of Duty

1161
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,039
is the gimme from there. It's like a lot of

1162
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:49,320
these other ones are pretty like neck and neck. But

1163
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,639
I I I probably would put counter Strike over next.

1164
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,639
It's it's it's longevity kind of like it makes it

1165
00:55:56,679 --> 00:55:57,800
stand out from everything else.

1166
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 2: You know, t Portress predates it as the mod that

1167
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,360
got twared to its own game, but Cashike was the yeah,

1168
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,679
kind of upon itself even compared to that.

1169
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,039
Speaker 1: Yes, and then it's like, you know, and Team Fortress

1170
00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:13,679
is still certainly something people play Team Fortress two in

1171
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,840
one way or any of the other. Counter Strike has

1172
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,079
just been a constant, even beyond kind of anything else

1173
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:21,239
I can think of where it's like today that's the

1174
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,400
first person shooter kids all over the world are picking up.

1175
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,360
That's still the esport they think of when they think

1176
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,360
of first person shooter esports. It's kind of astounding.

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Speaker 2: Its longevity is pretty incredible.

1178
00:56:31,639 --> 00:56:35,559
Speaker 1: Yep, right, what are you thinking now? Probably one of

1179
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:41,119
the Halos I I'm with you. I would probably go

1180
00:56:41,159 --> 00:56:44,599
Halo Halo Combat Evolved for a mount rushmore for figuring

1181
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:47,719
out shooters on a console and still having incredible multiplayer,

1182
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,880
even if it's not necessarily the online multiplayer we've got

1183
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,840
in too, but the Xbox Live is super important, so

1184
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,039
I can see Halo too. I'm kind of leaving this

1185
00:56:58,119 --> 00:56:59,079
up to you a little bit, I think.

1186
00:56:59,159 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I I could go either way. I'm fifty

1187
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,960
to fifty. So the fact that you lean slightly more

1188
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,639
towards combat evolving and just follow that, that's fine.

1189
00:57:06,679 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: Okay, sounds good. There we go, all right, So that's

1190
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,239
three spots, and then we have Halo two, Unreal Tournament Team,

1191
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:19,239
Fortress Classic, Overwatch, Golden Eye Double O seven or doom

1192
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:21,320
I don't necessarily know where to go from here like

1193
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,960
this is this is like there's I guess what did

1194
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,159
I lean? I might lean Overwatch, Mike, I don't know.

1195
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:31,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking either we go kind of newer with Overwatch. Oh,

1196
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,159
we go older and get more of a George Washington

1197
00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:37,480
with Doom on. Yeah, that's kind of the two I

1198
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:42,079
consider here. God, it's weird to Overwatch is actually like

1199
00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:44,280
eight years old or whatever already.

1200
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but uhre, that's still pretty new.

1201
00:57:46,719 --> 00:57:49,039
Speaker 2: That's yeah, yeah, right, like back in the day, this

1202
00:57:49,159 --> 00:57:51,360
it would practically be a retro game we would call

1203
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:56,719
it at the time. I think Overwatch makes sense. It

1204
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,679
definitely made a new track that is happening right now,

1205
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,320
you know. At the time, like a lot of what

1206
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,800
was excited about was the fact that like, oh wow, somebody,

1207
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:07,639
somebody made a big one of these that's very flashy

1208
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:09,599
and has high production values and it's not a call

1209
00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:13,440
of duty, clem, that's neat boy. That game was a

1210
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:17,000
huge breath of fresh air. I remember how much we did,

1211
00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:20,280
we say we were about the reload animations and over Watch.

1212
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:25,480
That stuff was so cool for such a long time. Gosh,

1213
00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:26,920
it was so fun. I wish I could go back

1214
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,599
to how that game felt the first few years when

1215
00:58:29,719 --> 00:58:31,920
everyone was playing it, because you know, of course there's

1216
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,880
just a natural progression where after a while it gets

1217
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,639
sweatier and the people were hanging around taking it very seriously.

1218
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:39,840
And then I didn't necessarily love the free to play

1219
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,880
direction it went to, but obviously a hugely important game,

1220
00:58:44,239 --> 00:58:47,360
really fun game that stuff. Yeah, and it also kind

1221
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,280
of represents the Team Fortress track a little bit, which

1222
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,360
I would like to have on there.

1223
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:56,719
Speaker 1: Any sort of like multiplayer, like like what is your

1224
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,519
mount rushmore like what you're one entry for a multiplayer

1225
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:02,079
first person mode in a game like Metroid where it

1226
00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:04,679
was like kind of felt like an afterthought but still

1227
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,199
kind of a slightly bigger deal. I was Metroid Prime

1228
00:59:08,239 --> 00:59:10,559
two obviously that that had that multiplayer mode. Yeah, we

1229
00:59:10,639 --> 00:59:11,039
did as.

1230
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,599
Speaker 2: Well, but yeah, I mean I was trying too. I

1231
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,119
wasn't bad. Actually we it was pretty good. I like

1232
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:21,280
the whole even had like an apartment and Rapture was

1233
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,480
where you like did your load outs.

1234
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1235
00:59:25,639 --> 00:59:28,719
Speaker 2: I thought the Charge games had really fun multiplayer modes. Literally,

1236
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,400
I try for two specively. Those were great. I liked

1237
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,280
those multiplayer modes a ton when like they would never

1238
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,199
do that now where you had a pretty fleshed out,

1239
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:40,440
competive uti player mode.

1240
00:59:40,679 --> 00:59:43,559
Speaker 1: Could you imagine Metrod Prime four launching with the multiplayer mode?

1241
00:59:44,719 --> 00:59:47,159
Speaker 2: They couldn't do it with the last last of us

1242
00:59:47,199 --> 00:59:49,719
to not having one, and then they're gonna make it

1243
00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:51,920
their own game and just kidceled it. That killed that.

1244
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,360
That's never happening again.

1245
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:53,599
Speaker 1: Now.

1246
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,599
Speaker 3: Yeah multiplayer was fun too?

1247
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah sure, So yeah that was that. Stuff was pretty

1248
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:00,800
great for a while there.

1249
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: All right, our mount rushmore of multiplayer first person Shooters

1250
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:09,079
is Call of Duty for Modern Warfare, counter Strike, Halo

1251
01:00:09,199 --> 01:00:13,840
Combat Evolved, and Overwatch. Uh oh, there's a quick three

1252
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,519
are in right there on the shortlist. Everybody, you don't

1253
01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:18,960
have to yell at us, all right, excellent work. I'll

1254
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,039
get that posted so people can can in fact yell

1255
01:00:22,119 --> 01:00:23,880
at us, and then we'll come back and talk about

1256
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,559
what we've been playing and clean up our super chats

1257
01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:32,440
right after this. Hey, we're back. That's still Mike. I'm

1258
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,840
still Jeff. We're gonna do more super chats. But first, Mike,

1259
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:37,719
what have you been.

1260
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: Playing Silent Hill? F been making the good proggies and

1261
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,400
that it's been a fun, spooky time, just really interesting.

1262
01:00:49,199 --> 01:00:51,719
I'm surprised some people are like, oh, I guess this

1263
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,440
still gonna feel like a sold Hill game. I'm not

1264
01:00:53,519 --> 01:00:56,440
some expert. I basically have just played the two Silent

1265
01:00:56,519 --> 01:01:00,320
Hill two's, But like, if you put the game in

1266
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,199
front of me and didn't tell me what it was called,

1267
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,400
and then like five hours and asked me, what franchise

1268
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,360
do you think this game is a part of. It's

1269
01:01:06,519 --> 01:01:10,280
obviously Silent Ill. It's so much of that.

1270
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: And that's not just because it's like they're like boy,

1271
01:01:13,039 --> 01:01:15,239
this sure feels like a silent hill. Like they're not

1272
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,000
like saying like, that's not the reason you're saying that.

1273
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,920
It's because of the vibes in the tongue vibes.

1274
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,599
Speaker 2: The tone and even like you know, the enemies. You know,

1275
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:27,400
there are gameplay similarities. I like the combat alone this.

1276
01:01:27,559 --> 01:01:29,119
I know some people have not liked it, but I

1277
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:32,119
think it does a really good job of feeling kind

1278
01:01:32,119 --> 01:01:37,079
of heavy and panicked and unsophisticating way that like combat

1279
01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:40,599
in a horror game should right, like you are just

1280
01:01:40,639 --> 01:01:44,599
some Japanese schoolgirl, uh, just kind of flailing around, not

1281
01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:47,400
that like you know, if it's it doesn't control well,

1282
01:01:47,679 --> 01:01:50,199
it just has this sort of heaviness, this sort of

1283
01:01:50,199 --> 01:01:52,719
panicness to it that I think there is the game

1284
01:01:53,239 --> 01:01:56,559
really well. It's a ton of fun. So yeah, it's great.

1285
01:01:56,599 --> 01:01:59,599
I'm hearing about some of the multiple endings. It's even

1286
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:02,400
a bit different than I was expecting, where it's not

1287
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,320
just the ending's like ooh, maybe your second playthrough is

1288
01:02:04,719 --> 01:02:06,880
different in a lot of ways. I'm kind of almost

1289
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,480
like maybe I do want to at least play through

1290
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:09,599
it a second time.

1291
01:02:09,719 --> 01:02:12,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, people said the new game plus stuff really can

1292
01:02:12,199 --> 01:02:14,480
speed things up and you can get through it in

1293
01:02:14,519 --> 01:02:17,519
a handful of hours. I'm to say a couple or

1294
01:02:17,559 --> 01:02:20,400
a few, but maybe four or five, I don't know.

1295
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:24,159
Speaker 2: I mean when from Rezuo four came out, I played

1296
01:02:24,159 --> 01:02:25,800
through that a ton of times. You know that was

1297
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,199
actually just for challenges the game itself doing change to

1298
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,960
you know, the second play through is always a lot

1299
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:34,880
faster than the first one. But yeah, it's a boy.

1300
01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:37,280
They once again, sale Hill has kind of coming over

1301
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,800
delivered here. The franchise is just in a very good

1302
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:40,639
place at the moment.

1303
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:43,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, good for Konami. I'm going to start that one

1304
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,400
up with the intention of playing through it to getting

1305
01:02:47,519 --> 01:02:51,719
one set of credits. H Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna. I

1306
01:02:51,719 --> 01:02:53,280
think I'm gonna do it in the morning slots. I've

1307
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,280
been doing some of the golf streams in and try

1308
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,039
to get a handful of those den in before the

1309
01:02:58,119 --> 01:02:59,960
end of October so I can have at least one

1310
01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:01,599
more game to talk about when it's end of the

1311
01:03:01,679 --> 01:03:03,760
year time, which I'm thinking about a lot about right now,

1312
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:08,519
trying to juggle some games. Yeah, we did play a

1313
01:03:08,519 --> 01:03:10,800
bunch of golf games, but so that led me to

1314
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,679
try one that we've not tried on stream. It was

1315
01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:17,719
an Easy Come Easy Golf, which came out several years ago,

1316
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,480
but it got an update for Switch to recently. Apparently

1317
01:03:20,519 --> 01:03:24,519
the same day that Everybody's Golf Hotshots came out. They

1318
01:03:24,519 --> 01:03:26,880
were like, hey, let's drop our switch to update that game.

1319
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,039
You could tell it's very much made for mobile sort

1320
01:03:29,079 --> 01:03:32,880
of originally it's on Apple, Arcade and Switch. And you know,

1321
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,400
despite that, which I think is probably a fair thing

1322
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,960
to say for this audience and myself, despite that really

1323
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,199
solid game, they do this interesting structure of you have

1324
01:03:44,239 --> 01:03:46,440
a team of golfers and there's like a lot of

1325
01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:48,719
three hole challenges where it's like we're just going to

1326
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,719
do three holes and there one's going to be like

1327
01:03:50,719 --> 01:03:52,000
a par three, one's going to be a part four,

1328
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,840
one's going to be a par five, and you have

1329
01:03:54,039 --> 01:03:56,480
to pick your team of golfers, and there's one golfer

1330
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,360
per hole, and one can be super accurate and one

1331
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,239
can have the distance or whatever. There's other differences as well,

1332
01:04:02,239 --> 01:04:04,440
but that's the general idea. So you pick your team

1333
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,679
and you apply the you know, the long range golfer

1334
01:04:06,719 --> 01:04:09,679
to the par five and there's also an auto button

1335
01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:11,480
they'll just pick your team for you. I've been doing

1336
01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:13,159
a lot of that. But then you go on there

1337
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:15,239
and you hit the ball with these various characters, and

1338
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,159
it's a really good, solid golf game, and then you

1339
01:04:18,159 --> 01:04:21,239
feel like you're making progression really quickly, which is a

1340
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:26,519
stark difference compared to Everybody's Golf Hot Shots, where it

1341
01:04:26,719 --> 01:04:30,079
is just this mountain to climb to unlock one character.

1342
01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:32,599
I'm never gonna it's rare.

1343
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 2: You get to start in that game, Like, what, that's

1344
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,400
not a thing we do anymore, is it.

1345
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,519
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy. Yeah, I don't know. I mean even

1346
01:04:39,559 --> 01:04:41,800
if we do, it's like this is not traditional for

1347
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,320
this series or a series where you could make your

1348
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,679
own characters. You can't do that anymore. And Everybody's golf

1349
01:04:46,679 --> 01:04:49,760
because again it's a different studio. The original studio is

1350
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,800
making this easy come, easy golf game. Yeah, it's it's

1351
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:58,760
it's solid. It's twenty bucks. I think it's overall pretty

1352
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,960
well made. Even if you could just feel the mobile

1353
01:05:01,159 --> 01:05:05,320
mobile miss of it everywhere. It didn't like blow me away,

1354
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,079
But it's certainly a much better experience than Everybody's Golf Hotshots,

1355
01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:11,920
which is a barren sort of bummer of a game overall,

1356
01:05:13,719 --> 01:05:15,679
and then beyond that some more final fantasy taxics. But

1357
01:05:15,719 --> 01:05:18,199
I talked about that on nin ten Dogs. That game's

1358
01:05:18,199 --> 01:05:20,440
good though, it's it's it's solid. I'm kind of like,

1359
01:05:20,679 --> 01:05:23,320
I'm really appreciating the early part being like a lot

1360
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:28,079
of mostly ten minute missions. There's, you know, some longer

1361
01:05:28,119 --> 01:05:30,599
ones in there for sure, but mostly like ten minute missions.

1362
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:33,119
Makes it really easy to start one up, get through it,

1363
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:34,960
put it down, and then pick it up later in

1364
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,360
the day and do the same thing. And I'm doing

1365
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,280
kind of maybe right now. I don't have a lot

1366
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,840
of time so too, maybe three missions a day, but

1367
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,840
it's yeah, it's it's it's a solid, solid game, one

1368
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,159
that I do find myself gravitating back toward whenever I

1369
01:05:49,199 --> 01:05:51,079
like have a little bit of time. So so yeah,

1370
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,000
really continue to be really happy with that. Anything else

1371
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:54,559
from you.

1372
01:05:55,679 --> 01:05:58,239
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, just I'm actually plugging away at

1373
01:05:58,519 --> 01:06:01,519
a gaxy to quite a bit now, doing some haities,

1374
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:03,880
two runs here and there. I really want to start

1375
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,599
tactics at some point during this week and my big

1376
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:11,679
olds weekend finish soild how two start tactics. There's some

1377
01:06:11,719 --> 01:06:14,280
other things I do want to check out absolom now right,

1378
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,480
but yeah, plenty of things to do. I've enjoyed playing

1379
01:06:18,519 --> 01:06:21,119
all these golf games. Actually, Golf Vida games are just fun.

1380
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,519
Shout out the Pebble Beach Golf links for the Sega Sider,

1381
01:06:24,519 --> 01:06:27,119
which has been my kind of the favorite part of

1382
01:06:27,199 --> 01:06:30,280
golf Week so far. Actually with just the weird Craig

1383
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:37,039
Stadler live action inserts and it's just strange nineteen ninety

1384
01:06:37,079 --> 01:06:42,280
four digitized graphics Vibe enjoyed that. You know, Kirby's Rink course,

1385
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,639
we played that. Still a ton of fun. Even that

1386
01:06:44,719 --> 01:06:47,360
was the first time I ever played a Nintendo switched

1387
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,239
sports and played the golf on dire It's like, yes,

1388
01:06:50,239 --> 01:06:51,280
this is neat, this is fun.

1389
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: It's great.

1390
01:06:52,519 --> 01:06:54,079
Speaker 2: You know, it's great that five of us can play that.

1391
01:06:54,199 --> 01:06:56,280
And the fact that you just all do your own

1392
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:57,920
stuff at the same time so it moves. You can

1393
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,360
do eighteen holes pretty quickly. Fun.

1394
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,679
Speaker 1: Actually, oh yeah, yeah, it's it's super solid and uh

1395
01:07:04,119 --> 01:07:06,840
it's like one of those rare Nintendo games where it's

1396
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,960
like they mostly figured out the online. It still has

1397
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,960
its quirks but in some of the other stuff, but

1398
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,480
uh there it works really well. It's like that in

1399
01:07:13,519 --> 01:07:15,519
the bowling, right, everyone bowls at the same time, and

1400
01:07:15,519 --> 01:07:17,280
that's the one that where it's really important to get

1401
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,559
that they're really those two right. I don't know if

1402
01:07:19,559 --> 01:07:22,559
people remember golf didn't launch with the game. It got

1403
01:07:22,599 --> 01:07:25,280
added later. It was yeah, it was pretty oh so

1404
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:26,639
I don't even I think we did some of it

1405
01:07:26,679 --> 01:07:29,360
when it first launched, but yeah, it's you know, I

1406
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,239
think you can have up to eight players golfing at

1407
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,199
the same time, which is a cool thing because when

1408
01:07:34,199 --> 01:07:36,239
everyone's going at this, when everyone is golfing at the

1409
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:37,880
same time, it's kind of like, well, what do we

1410
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,599
need a four player limit for Let's get it. Let's

1411
01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:42,119
make it a full party. Uh. And you can also

1412
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,719
do that locally, right, because you can have eight people

1413
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,639
with each with one joy con if you have a

1414
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,119
four sets of joy Cons. So yeah, it's just kind

1415
01:07:49,159 --> 01:07:52,079
of neat. Although I wonder what kind of room what

1416
01:07:52,079 --> 01:07:54,039
it would look like in a room of eight people

1417
01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:56,639
doing that, all kind of swinging around, flailing in the

1418
01:07:56,639 --> 01:08:00,280
same space. Yeah, breaking knuckles left in right.

1419
01:08:00,559 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 2: Shout shout outs to Golf in It and Super Video Golf,

1420
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,599
to indie games that people actually sent us code forward

1421
01:08:06,599 --> 01:08:08,239
to check out during Golf week and you had a

1422
01:08:08,239 --> 01:08:10,599
good time. Both those aren't Steam Golf in it and

1423
01:08:10,679 --> 01:08:12,079
Super Video Golf.

1424
01:08:12,679 --> 01:08:14,599
Speaker 1: I'm glad you were able to check those out. For sure.

1425
01:08:15,639 --> 01:08:19,399
I will. We'll do Mario Golf tomorrow. We'll do uh,

1426
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:20,920
and I'm looking forward to playing some of that dance.

1427
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,680
Apparently never played much Mario golf, which really surprises me.

1428
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that does surprise me.

1429
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,359
Speaker 1: I guess he played the game Boy Color one, but

1430
01:08:27,399 --> 01:08:29,840
he did that recently with the analog pocket and stuff.

1431
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,319
So yeah, I think I think it's going to be

1432
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:35,000
impressed because you know that those early Camelot games were

1433
01:08:35,079 --> 01:08:35,399
very good.

1434
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: The Great Told to a Tour on GameCube is fantastic.

1435
01:08:39,039 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: I love that. I mean, but I think I think

1436
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,600
the best one in the series is the three DS

1437
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,199
one because it's like that's the one that had the

1438
01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:48,279
really awesome online tournaments. God, that's a good game. All right.

1439
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,079
That probably does it for us, right, Mike, anything else?

1440
01:08:52,039 --> 01:08:54,399
Speaker 2: Uh, just the super chats that we have left here.

1441
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,079
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do the super chats then, please.

1442
01:08:56,119 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 4: Hey, two xcale early access is good. Don't buy the

1443
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,279
one hundred dollars skin ago.

1444
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:06,039
Speaker 1: Wait, I thought you said actually a pretty good deal.

1445
01:09:06,119 --> 01:09:08,239
Speaker 4: I was almost, you know, ship boating a little bit.

1446
01:09:10,239 --> 01:09:13,520
You know, now let's get some hard and it's not

1447
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:17,520
and they give you like everything that's on the game now,

1448
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,720
but is yeah, one hundred bucks, come on, give him

1449
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:24,319
a break. In another times I might have spent that money,

1450
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:27,000
but nowadays I frugal with my money.

1451
01:09:27,039 --> 01:09:30,520
Speaker 1: I guess there's gotta be a time where that gets

1452
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,439
discounted or something. I don't know, maybe not, we'll see.

1453
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 3: Maybe.

1454
01:09:33,079 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: All right, Mike hit us with those super.

1455
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 2: Chats already here we got a few more here from

1456
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,239
I went from Tim Nichols says, remember when Dan didn't

1457
01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:43,439
know how to listen to NPR, right?

1458
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: He said? He said, like it was like he's said,

1459
01:09:46,199 --> 01:09:47,920
I don't know if I would know how to like

1460
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,239
listen to NPR. Is what he said, Like if someone

1461
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:52,600
told me to go listen to NPR, He's like, I

1462
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,119
wouldn't know how to do that. It's just like, well,

1463
01:09:56,199 --> 01:09:59,880
I mean you could imagine googling that, right, Like did

1464
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:02,079
you would you include googling that and something you're.

1465
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,279
Speaker 2: Not I don't expect you to like check every AM

1466
01:10:06,359 --> 01:10:10,399
radio station you have right come across it, But I

1467
01:10:10,399 --> 01:10:11,520
don't know how much.

1468
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,239
Speaker 3: Him going through the dials NPR.

1469
01:10:14,079 --> 01:10:19,119
Speaker 1: Is this pr Yeah, I mean fair enough, Matt.

1470
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: Where Monkeys is still on the game pas because of

1471
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,880
rewards print the season never paid.

1472
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean people who are doing the Microsoft

1473
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,760
rewards points, you keep doing it. You're I mean, they're

1474
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,600
getting your data. I mean that's why they do that.

1475
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,039
But at whatever, at least you're getting something for your data.

1476
01:10:34,159 --> 01:10:35,600
A lot of our other people are just getting my

1477
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,000
data for free and not giving me shit.

1478
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 2: So you do you, Americle, Thank you again for the

1479
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,960
five gifted memberships on YouTube. Appreciate that.

1480
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1481
01:10:44,319 --> 01:10:47,159
Speaker 2: Matt Ramonkey says, tea to introduce hots so all those

1482
01:10:47,279 --> 01:10:51,680
kids start uh here, Yeah boy, I'm like again, like

1483
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,680
I liked Team Fortress too, but I like Classic more

1484
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,239
TV Fortress too, Like I'm like a purist. I liked

1485
01:10:57,239 --> 01:10:59,359
it early on when it was more like Team Fortress Classic.

1486
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,399
There's the game on and on. It was like every

1487
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,399
character had sixteen different weapons that they could get, and

1488
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:09,640
there was there's too much customization for me. I was like, nah,

1489
01:11:09,039 --> 01:11:12,640
right now, the deboman should have this gun in this

1490
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,800
sub weapon, in this outfit, and that's it. I got

1491
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,000
a little too got a little too.

1492
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,560
Speaker 1: How many people are still playing Team Fortress two every day?

1493
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 2: For a while, everyone was like, it's only bots and

1494
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,840
apparently it was a giant problem. Oh that's right.

1495
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: I remember that.

1496
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,239
Speaker 2: It is a game where it's like, why wouldn't they

1497
01:11:29,239 --> 01:11:32,600
make a Team Fortress three? But you know, it's Valve.

1498
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,159
They kind of do what they want and it's hard

1499
01:11:36,199 --> 01:11:38,279
to tell what they want.

1500
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 1: So they peaked at seventy two thousand players today. Maybe

1501
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,760
it's all bots, just farming hats to sell. I don't

1502
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,439
know if it's all bots, like who are you selling

1503
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:46,880
the hats to?

1504
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,279
Speaker 2: But whatever, I know, it's it doesn't make any sense

1505
01:11:49,319 --> 01:11:52,199
to me. It's going right over there. Adam Stein says,

1506
01:11:52,239 --> 01:11:55,840
go Cubs, Go Tigers. Frick Ice. Are you excited for

1507
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,199
your uh make or break game tomorrow?

1508
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's pretty exciting because the Red Wings

1509
01:12:02,119 --> 01:12:04,560
loss really bad today, and that's a good portent for

1510
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,119
our other Detroit teams. That's how it usually goes. One

1511
01:12:07,159 --> 01:12:10,079
has to be excruciatingly bad and that means the other

1512
01:12:10,079 --> 01:12:13,199
teams are going to be pretty good. And also scoobles

1513
01:12:13,239 --> 01:12:17,720
back on the mound and they started hitting. I'm pretty excited.

1514
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 3: It's like the four the balance in the force. You know,

1515
01:12:20,159 --> 01:12:21,479
one of you had to see.

1516
01:12:21,279 --> 01:12:24,119
Speaker 1: It's Yes, that's scruciating.

1517
01:12:24,359 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 2: Three to the four, to the five, to the putt,

1518
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,439
tomorrow's maker break. Can you make the cut?

1519
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:32,560
Speaker 1: I hope? So thanks for asking.

1520
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 2: Jason Vonice. As we get baseball, this has me chailing

1521
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,720
my Philly sports sorrow into something positive. You guys, ll

1522
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:38,039
thank you.

1523
01:12:38,119 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: Jason, Sorry, Jason, Yeah, it's rough.

1524
01:12:41,079 --> 01:12:44,079
Speaker 2: Man. Dodgers is always going to be a tough one

1525
01:12:44,199 --> 01:12:47,479
to beat in the postseason right now, So yeah, to

1526
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,239
be having to go through them.

1527
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,279
Speaker 1: Just get the best baseball player in the world and

1528
01:12:54,319 --> 01:12:56,640
don't pay them for twenty years or whatever the fuck

1529
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,960
it is. Why don't you just do that? Yeah, Jayson, come.

1530
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,079
Speaker 2: On on the bright sid The Eagles are losing to

1531
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:03,520
the Giants right now, and the Giants aren't very good.

1532
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:06,560
Didn't have said that?

1533
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,359
Speaker 1: Okay, spare the man.

1534
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:15,119
Speaker 2: My bad, my bad Ah. Next up is from Toe Morales,

1535
01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:18,319
Halo finally made it on a game as amount Rushmore

1536
01:13:19,119 --> 01:13:20,840
trying em. He did it.

1537
01:13:21,239 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: We're proud of him. Absolutely well done. Did it? We

1538
01:13:24,039 --> 01:13:24,399
did it?

1539
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,279
Speaker 2: Uh? Next up it's from Hey to Texas taking the

1540
01:13:27,319 --> 01:13:29,319
day off work tomorrow. I'm playing Baffled six all day.

1541
01:13:29,359 --> 01:13:31,560
Let me know if you need another. Sure, but that

1542
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,960
sounds fun. Yeah, just a whole day for a game. Man.

1543
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, how big can a party be in Battlefield?

1544
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:41,720
Could we like have a bunch of people in there

1545
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,720
from the community.

1546
01:13:47,119 --> 01:13:50,039
Speaker 3: And they can join your your match if there's like.

1547
01:13:50,079 --> 01:13:53,119
Speaker 1: We'll do that, We'll do that. Let's so we'll do

1548
01:13:53,279 --> 01:13:56,479
We'll do us, We'll do our four and then everyone

1549
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:57,960
will try to make it as easy as possible for

1550
01:13:58,079 --> 01:14:00,239
people to join on us. And I'll like, oh that

1551
01:14:00,319 --> 01:14:01,760
or maybe Christian, you can yes.

1552
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 4: I don't know the portal of stuff work. Maybe you

1553
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,319
can make something there where you can have all your friends.

1554
01:14:06,319 --> 01:14:08,159
And so I'm gonna check that out once that's out,

1555
01:14:08,199 --> 01:14:11,279
because it's no doubt it wasn't out during the review period.

1556
01:14:11,239 --> 01:14:12,520
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, we'll see.

1557
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: Look, guys, I'm allowed to make fun of anybody sports here.

1558
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,800
I'm'm a Cleveland sports. Yeah, you know, we're not exactly

1559
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,840
having a great moment ourselves defending super Bowl champions.

1560
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:29,279
Speaker 1: They can be knocked down a peg. Hell, everyone loses

1561
01:14:29,319 --> 01:14:32,039
all the time except for the Lions. So yeah, it's fine.

1562
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,119
And now now We're definitely gonna lose this week because

1563
01:14:35,159 --> 01:14:36,359
I said that, So don't worry.

1564
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,520
Speaker 2: That stuff is J l A. Naps put on some

1565
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,800
vixed rub rest up in Sleep Night. But I haven't

1566
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,640
done vixed rubble. I don't. I don't think vix rub

1567
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,039
is a good fit for chest hair.

1568
01:14:47,319 --> 01:14:50,159
Speaker 1: No, that's like, that's one of the most disgusting things

1569
01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:53,039
I've ever thought about, now that you said it like that, Yeah, oh,

1570
01:14:53,079 --> 01:14:53,520
I don't like.

1571
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: Also, I have a seat pat machine, so I think

1572
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,199
it would work anyway. But I'll just I'll just put

1573
01:14:59,239 --> 01:14:59,960
some of it on my water.

1574
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1575
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Forrest Whitaker's character in and Or, like Huff's gas

1576
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:16,279
or whatever. And that's what I'm imagining you being like, yeah, yeah.

1577
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I figured this out. This is good. This is

1578
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,039
good snack that says, please play rippet King multiplayer.

1579
01:15:21,079 --> 01:15:24,039
Speaker 1: I love you a lot of love for ribbitt King

1580
01:15:24,079 --> 01:15:28,640
out there. It's it's frisbee golf. That's still golf. I

1581
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,760
will try to find a spot for that at some point,

1582
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,359
but it's probably not gonna make it.

1583
01:15:32,359 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 2: For God, there might be another golf week sometimes play

1584
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,520
of things we didn't get around to playing. Some day

1585
01:15:40,079 --> 01:15:43,800
we'll get someday we'll come back to last Geek says,

1586
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:45,720
I had a bad day at work. Take some of

1587
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,279
my money, so I know my bad day is going

1588
01:15:47,319 --> 01:15:49,199
to hope some awesome people. Oh sorry here, but that

1589
01:15:49,239 --> 01:15:50,800
last week. Hope you have a better day at work.

1590
01:15:51,199 --> 01:15:55,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely sorry, really apologize and hanging there, and thanks

1591
01:15:55,239 --> 01:15:57,399
for hanging out with us. We appreciate that that.

1592
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 2: The contractors hit your guest line too.

1593
01:16:02,399 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: I can't believe Dan Riker died. That's crazy.

1594
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:13,039
Speaker 2: Andrew Steward says, d Yankees, Sure.

1595
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: The evil has been defeated.

1596
01:16:21,319 --> 01:16:25,359
Speaker 3: What's your team? What are these losers? You know what?

1597
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,840
I'm not gonna even.

1598
01:16:27,279 --> 01:16:29,279
Speaker 2: Bet their team? Does that have as big of a

1599
01:16:29,319 --> 01:16:31,960
sarar cap as you with fewer winds than the Yankees.

1600
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: Came in?

1601
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 2: Let's see it now. Chuck Towsky says, I saw that

1602
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:45,600
the Browns are technically paying a quarterbacks right now, including

1603
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,840
a k to Kenny the franchise picket. Oh, it's a

1604
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:52,840
Jesus awful organization, everybody, it's just the I get I

1605
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,319
do get upset that the Browns could be this terrible

1606
01:16:56,359 --> 01:17:00,479
and upsetting and just kind of repugnant and like still

1607
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,199
in Cleveland, it's a it's a football city and just

1608
01:17:03,279 --> 01:17:05,560
kind of always will be. Like guys or baseball team

1609
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,399
competes every year. They're like, yeah, but they're not the

1610
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,279
Indians anymore. Ah, Like you.

1611
01:17:09,279 --> 01:17:11,399
Speaker 5: Didn't like that much when they were the Indians either.

1612
01:17:12,199 --> 01:17:14,239
You only cared about it when you could complain about

1613
01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:17,760
the lack of racism. The Caps are pretty good, but

1614
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,600
we don't have like a superstar doing ads anymore, so

1615
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,600
they don't care as much. Even though even when we

1616
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:26,439
have Lebron again, people still like the Browns more.

1617
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,560
Speaker 2: It's just it's just people are just so football pilled.

1618
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,560
I like football as well. I think it's de facto's

1619
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,600
places as most people's favorite sport is a little is

1620
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,199
a little much sometimes.

1621
01:17:37,199 --> 01:17:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, I mean, I know why I like it.

1622
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,600
It's the specialization because there's, uh, there are there's a

1623
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,960
sumo wrestling match happening, and then like the fastest guy

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01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,079
you've ever fucking seen on the same field at the

1625
01:17:48,119 --> 01:17:50,520
same time, and that owns. That doesn't seem to be

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01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,279
why most people like it though, So you're right, I'm

1627
01:17:52,279 --> 01:17:53,399
always a little bit confused.

1628
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's if it's super chests.

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01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 2: Everybody.

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01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,319
Speaker 1: All right, it's gonna mostly that's gonna do it for

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01:18:01,359 --> 01:18:02,520
the show. I'm gonna hit the button.

1633
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:03,279
Speaker 2: We'll before we go.

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01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, please hit it.

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01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 4: Community events, we're we're having a Lego Party party this Saturday.

1636
01:18:11,359 --> 01:18:14,920
Miss the time, but yeah, check the check discord.

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01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,079
Speaker 1: So if like, let's say six people show up, are

1638
01:18:18,079 --> 01:18:19,600
they gonna split up in like two groups of three

1639
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,439
and have two Lego parties going at the same time,

1640
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,119
like do it?

1641
01:18:23,399 --> 01:18:26,359
Speaker 4: But they said they're gonna they might have copies of

1642
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,279
the game to give away, so check that.

1643
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:29,239
Speaker 2: Okay.

1644
01:18:29,399 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: I love this community. You guys are great stuff.

1645
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 2: I really like leg Party with for us to play more.

1646
01:18:35,239 --> 01:18:37,039
Speaker 1: Definitely had a meeting today and talked about like when

1647
01:18:37,079 --> 01:18:39,760
can we play that game again? So yeah, we're figuring

1648
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,079
it out, like want to play on Sunday.

1649
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 4: We also have Powerwatch similar with game Night. So there's

1650
01:18:46,039 --> 01:18:47,520
some stuff going on in the community.

1651
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 3: Go check the discord. Thank you very much.

1652
01:18:50,039 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 2: Similar power Simulator to on on the fancy criticals please

1653
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,520
about that. Yeah, that's I think that's a good move

1654
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,680
that games said and super tight just beating mount Faith

1655
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,560
control or to had less stick drips And my wife

1656
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:06,479
doesn't care, so that's impressive. Tim, Well, that's actually crazy

1657
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:11,159
well done for sure, way down Code or whatever whatever

1658
01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:15,479
it's called. Absolutely are you Are you taking a break

1659
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,199
from Silksong? Are you still playing that? What's going on?

1660
01:19:17,319 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm because I started Final Fantasy Tactics. It's uh,

1661
01:19:21,039 --> 01:19:22,840
that's what's on my switch right now rather than that.

1662
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,039
But I'm not really taking a break from I intend

1663
01:19:25,039 --> 01:19:27,479
to go back to it. I just haven't had time again.

1664
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,359
I'm traveling this weekend, but I might. I might just

1665
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,800
use this, like, I'll get some time around the hotel

1666
01:19:33,039 --> 01:19:35,399
when we're there to play a game. I'll try to

1667
01:19:35,399 --> 01:19:37,720
finish up Silk Song. How long is Act three? Because

1668
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,000
I'm a little bit into it.

1669
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 2: It's not it's not nearly as long as Act too.

1670
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,239
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, So I feel like I can just see

1671
01:19:44,239 --> 01:19:45,720
it through and I'm just gonna do it. I like

1672
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,199
that game so so so much.

1673
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:54,039
Speaker 2: It's amazing, and I do miss it. Gosh. But yeah,

1674
01:19:54,079 --> 01:19:55,560
so many things to play.

1675
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 1: Yep, so many things to play. Yeah. I was like,

1676
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,359
you know, all those games got mentioned earlier. I watched

1677
01:20:00,359 --> 01:20:04,359
them are absolute absolute God. Now I'm gonna I'm gonna

1678
01:20:04,359 --> 01:20:06,399
get worse at saying that game's name every single time.

1679
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:10,960
I need to hear the developers say Yeah, the Pokemon

1680
01:20:11,399 --> 01:20:14,199
building up to the metro for Outer World too. Yeah,

1681
01:20:14,319 --> 01:20:15,199
don't forget.

1682
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 2: God, everybody every time some I forget that.

1683
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 1: Man, Catch you next time, everybody. Also, I gotta beat

1684
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,600
Boulders K three with jan Oh.

1685
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are right on that, making incredible progress. Yeah, God.

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01:20:51,199 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 1: Love the

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01:20:56,319 --> 01:21:00,079
Speaker 2: Boy Pussy