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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of parents with kids in school worried about

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<v Speaker 2>what their kids are getting a hold of, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people across the state just know someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>been affected by fentanyl or a fentanyl death. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you talk to the law enforcement officials, they'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>every single drug in Colorado right now, including marijuana, is

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<v Speaker 2>being laced with fentanyl. And so that's why I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>happy to have Senator Byron Pelton on the show with

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<v Speaker 2>me today. He is sponsoring a very important bill this

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<v Speaker 2>next legislative session, which starts on Wednesday already to help

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<v Speaker 2>solve the drug crisis in our state. Welcome Senator Pelton

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<v Speaker 2>to the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Christy, thanks for having me. And I have to tell

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<v Speaker 3>you that introduction for Dan Caplis. Boy, if I could

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<v Speaker 3>walk into the session with that introduction, that would be awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like is a fight every time.

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<v Speaker 2>So true, So try to like pump you up for

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<v Speaker 2>the fight that's about to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. That's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Well, I think our listeners would love to

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<v Speaker 2>hear about your bill, and I know I'll also ask

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<v Speaker 2>you about if you have any bipartisan support or how

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<v Speaker 2>you're seeing you to pass the potential passage of this bill.

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<v Speaker 2>But first, I guess let's talk about what's in it.

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<v Speaker 2>What is in your fentanyl bill?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, basically, what I'm doing is I am going to

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<v Speaker 3>take back We're going to make it to zero grams

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<v Speaker 3>possession and distribution of anyanyl drug, any petanyl at all,

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<v Speaker 3>which means I'm going after the drug dealers specifically on

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<v Speaker 3>this bill. If you sell the if you sell any

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<v Speaker 3>drug at all, that or that if you sell a

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<v Speaker 3>fetanyl and it kills somebody, it's going to give you

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<v Speaker 3>a Class one felony drug felony. And then if you

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<v Speaker 3>have any possession and trying to distribute that possession of

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<v Speaker 3>that drug, it's going to be a class four felony.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm making it all felony again, and I'm bringing

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<v Speaker 3>down the amount that you can actually possess on yourself

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<v Speaker 3>as zero grams a sentinel. So that's what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to do with this bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's great, and so what would the bill do

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<v Speaker 2>for someone who possesses any amount, let's say a small amount,

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<v Speaker 2>but has no intent to distribute. How would they be

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<v Speaker 2>affected by the bill?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they would still be affected by the bill because

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<v Speaker 3>what they've had it where they're possessing the drug. But

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<v Speaker 3>the thing about it is that that they would be

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<v Speaker 3>able to if the DA if on the DA's job

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<v Speaker 3>to prove that. Yeah, if you can't prove it, then

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<v Speaker 3>they then they're still going to be able to, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>still end up with the misdemeanor. But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to go after the drug dealers with still

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<v Speaker 3>that's what that's my.

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<v Speaker 2>Intent, well, in including the low lever low level drug dealers,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that's an issue I've heard from some

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<v Speaker 2>of the sheriffs is a lot of people want to

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<v Speaker 2>target the big drug dealers, and of course we need to,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to break up these rings, but it's also

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<v Speaker 2>the low level dealers who are the ones that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of addicts deal with and get their drugs from,

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<v Speaker 2>and those are at least from my understanding, they're often

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<v Speaker 2>people who are addicted to the drugs themselves, but sell

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<v Speaker 2>involved in the rings, but often carry maybe a less

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<v Speaker 2>through the cracks in the laws and you can't really

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<v Speaker 2>go after them, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing about it is is that when they

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<v Speaker 3>made everything a this demeanor, they really took away the

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<v Speaker 3>DA and the law enforcement's power right and negotiate with

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<v Speaker 3>these low level drug dealers to get the bigger drugs exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the whole point of this bill is to really

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<v Speaker 3>enforcement can go after them, and then these guys will

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<v Speaker 3>end up with more of a we're going to send

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<v Speaker 3>getting treatments or that sort of thing, instead of making

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<v Speaker 3>you go to jail. If you've hand over the people

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<v Speaker 4>This drug, that's key.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really given the tools to the das and to

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<v Speaker 3>drug dealers, the big time drug dealers, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is so important because some of them take forever

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<v Speaker 2>of evidence in these low level dealers and give them

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<v Speaker 2>so many more options to stop the spread here in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're talking to Senator Byron Pelton, who's sponsoring a

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<v Speaker 2>very important bill on fentanyl and drugs here in Colorado,

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<v Speaker 2>increasing the penalty specifically for drug dealers. Senator Pelton, what

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<v Speaker 2>does it look like as far as bipartisans support on

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<v Speaker 2>this bill? What are you expecting to happen in the

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I am looking. I'm looking to see if we

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<v Speaker 3>can get somebody on the bill with me that will

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<v Speaker 3>be bipartisan. However, right now I don't have anybody. I

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<v Speaker 3>have corded a few people across the aisle, none of

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<v Speaker 3>them are very interested in bringing the level down to zero.

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<v Speaker 3>So apparently the thing that I'm getting is that they

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to be caught up and they don't want

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<v Speaker 3>people getting caught up in the system, which that is

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<v Speaker 3>not what my intent is. My intent is to strictly

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<v Speaker 3>go after drug dealers with this bill to stop the

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<v Speaker 3>flow of drugs into our communities and the one who's

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<v Speaker 3>killing our kids, basically is what I'm trying to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Well, and do you know so if they're objecting

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<v Speaker 2>to your version of the bill, we should obviously make

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<v Speaker 2>our communities safer and stop a lot of the drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they have a different version they're bringing or are

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<v Speaker 2>they ignoring the issue? To your at least to your knowledge,

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<v Speaker 3>Knowledge, what they feel like is the Fitanel bill that

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<v Speaker 3>has passed in the past has is doing its job.

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<v Speaker 3>And I will I have DA's in my district that disagree.

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<v Speaker 4>Right absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you a great example here in Logan County

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty nineteen, when I was a county commissioner, we

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<v Speaker 3>had to take all the courts took sixty eight children

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<v Speaker 3>from their home due to meth antetamy. Oh my, the

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<v Speaker 3>laws aren't the laws aren't working. And even I know

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<v Speaker 3>that that bill was passed in twenty one, but it

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<v Speaker 3>still wouldn't be working. Still today, we had a huge

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<v Speaker 3>issue with drugs in the state of Colorado and we

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<v Speaker 3>got to do something to stop it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right, I totally agree with you, And I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking recently at fentanyl overdose deaths in Colorado

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<v Speaker 2>and in twenty twenty three, which is the latest year,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, we have numbers for it was still increasing,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's been like a four hundred and forty percent

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<v Speaker 2>increase in the last five years of fentanyl overdose deaths

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<v Speaker 2>nearly two thousand people in twenty three, So no signs

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<v Speaker 2>at all that it's being reduced after the bill that

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<v Speaker 2>was passed in twenty one. So it's pretty clear to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I think in anyone who looks at the numbers that

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<v Speaker 2>we have to do more, like your bill would offer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is correct. I mean, we do have to

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<v Speaker 3>do more. And right now there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>families out there that are dealing with deaths of their children,

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<v Speaker 3>death of a loved one. Here in Logan County not

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<v Speaker 3>too long ago, we actually had a mom and a

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<v Speaker 3>dad overdose on overdose and leave three children as wards

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<v Speaker 3>of the state. So wow, these are things that communities

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<v Speaker 3>have to pay for. It hits our pocketbooks. But the

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<v Speaker 3>most the thing that I'm really, really really searching for

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<v Speaker 3>is holding somebody accountable for selling those drugs to that

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<v Speaker 3>injured that individual or victimize that family. And that is

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<v Speaker 3>really what I'm trying to focus on with this bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I think to your point, Senator Pelton, also

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<v Speaker 2>having an effective means to turn the low level drug

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<v Speaker 2>dealers on the big drug dealer, and to do that

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<v Speaker 2>you often do have to charge them with a heavier penalty.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're motivated to cooperate with DA's and law enforcement

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<v Speaker 2>and go get the big guys. That it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>a very effective thing to do that we're not doing

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado right now.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm glad to hear your bill would do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's exactly what we're for. That's exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>we're trying to do here with this bill. I have

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<v Speaker 3>a great sponsor in the House by Representative Armags. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a great sponsor in the House. He's a big

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<v Speaker 3>help on the drug issue down there and over there

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<v Speaker 3>in his district, and I do appreciate all of his work.

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<v Speaker 3>But so far we can't get anybody across the aisle

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<v Speaker 3>on the bill with us well, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that says a lot about them and where

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<v Speaker 2>they are and not being willing to solve the drug crisis.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, if they want to bring their own bills.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we'll see what happens in a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days when the session starts. But what's very clear, I

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<v Speaker 2>think is that in Colorado, if the politicians aren't going

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<v Speaker 2>to fix it. We can go to the people on

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<v Speaker 2>the ballot and get it fixed. So we do have

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<v Speaker 2>to take a break. Senator Byron Pelton, I'm so happy

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<v Speaker 2>to have you on the show. Thanks for joining us

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<v Speaker 2>and running this bill.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll talk to you later. I'm Christy Burton Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on the Dan Capla Show.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>News today including Phil Weiser announcing he's running for governor

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<v Speaker 2>on the Democrat side in a shock to almost no one,

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<v Speaker 2>and most people in Colorado still don't actually even know

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<v Speaker 2>who he is. Probably why he's announcing so soon, has

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of work to do and name ID to

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<v Speaker 2>catch up on. Also been talking about the news from

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<v Speaker 2>Jefferson County School District where the chief of schools was

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<v Speaker 2>let go from his position about a month ago by

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<v Speaker 2>Jefferson County Public Schools not providing a lot of information

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<v Speaker 2>to parents, many of whom were questioning exactly what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on. And then today Washington County in Maryland reported

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<v Speaker 2>that he had committed suicide in Maryland while he was

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<v Speaker 2>with family over the holidays, and Jefferson County Sheriffs also

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<v Speaker 2>released that he was under investigation for possession of child

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<v Speaker 2>sexual assault material also called child pornography, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>that term for it is much better that the Jefferson

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<v Speaker 2>County sheriffs are using. So what exactly does the chief

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<v Speaker 2>of public schools chief of schools do in Jefferson County.

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<v Speaker 2>He supervises a lot of the positions a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>this staff. They also have some things to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the test the kids take and positions like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>David Weiss was his name, and he also was a

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<v Speaker 2>former elementary school teacher before he came over as chief

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<v Speaker 2>of schools in Jefferson County, and very concerning in Jefferson

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<v Speaker 2>County when you look at what he was charged with

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<v Speaker 2>in many parents asking whether or not their kids were

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<v Speaker 2>and other people who are working with the children in

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<v Speaker 2>the schools are being arrested time and again. This was

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<v Speaker 2>the fifth time last year for sexual assault on children

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<v Speaker 2>by person in place of trust or possession of child

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<v Speaker 2>sexual assault material. So a very concerning pattern in Jefferson

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<v Speaker 2>County public schools, and I think one of the ways

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<v Speaker 2>that some of the details have been uncovered and released

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<v Speaker 2>rights groups in the area. This is why if you're

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<v Speaker 2>or the speakers that are coming to the assembly, or

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<v Speaker 2>the books that are in the library. I've had parents

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<v Speaker 4>You're a parent.

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<v Speaker 2>You have the right to demand access to the information

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like that they're being taught particular material, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's very important for parents to know how

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<v Speaker 2>to send your child to a neighborhood public school. Personally,

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<v Speaker 2>when they're having this many issues with children being preyed

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<v Speaker 2>upon by adults in positions of trust. That's deeply, deeply concerning,

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<v Speaker 2>the neighborhood public schools right now until these situations are resolved.

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<v Speaker 2>that some neighborhood public schools can be very well done

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<v Speaker 2>think it's important as conservative when we're talking about school

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<v Speaker 2>choice and education, that we have a balanced approach and

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<v Speaker 2>are going to get educated in our country. We need solid, good,

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<v Speaker 2>accountable neighborhood public schools. But when we see issues, and

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<v Speaker 2>when we see problems, whether it is with kids reading

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<v Speaker 2>we need to consider taking our kids out of those

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<v Speaker 2>care of our children, produce better results, and accomplish the

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<v Speaker 2>educating our children and setting them up for success. I

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<v Speaker 2>just got elected to the state Board of Education in

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado in November and will be sworn in next Wednesday. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>all the things we hear about from schools across the state.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think most people across the state don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know there is a state Board of Education. Colorado is

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<v Speaker 2>elect their members on the state board. In many many

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<v Speaker 2>states they're appointed by the governor. But here in Colorado

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<v Speaker 2>you actually get someone who represents your particular congressional district.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll certainly hear some charter school appeals, accountability issues, also

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<v Speaker 2>license your issues. When teachers licenses are suspended or pulled.

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<v Speaker 2>that situation and approves the license to be poled.

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<v Speaker 4>Or suspended or not.

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<v Speaker 2>And from the information I have gathered, you would be

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<v Speaker 2>removal for what they're doing in the classroom or what

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<v Speaker 2>it's involved substance abuse, not always as dire of a

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<v Speaker 2>situation as Jefferson County is encountering right now. If you

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<v Speaker 4>Let's also play this clip.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to remind you of exactly who Phil

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<v Speaker 2>b why we should absolutely make sure he's not governor

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<v Speaker 2>is due to his position on crime. This is a

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<v Speaker 6>So after someone commits a third or fourth car theft

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So let's Pilwiser, Attorney General at the time running

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<v Speaker 2>With in reality, anyone who knows anything about the situation

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<v Speaker 2>What law enforcement officials have shared with me in my

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<v Speaker 2>But it really goes far beyond property crimes because they

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<v Speaker 2>with auto theft in Colorado, and Phil Weiser has no

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<v Speaker 2>should definitely not be governor. I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're

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<v Speaker 2>on the Dan Kapla Show. You can call in over

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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Text your thoughts to Dan at five seven seven three nine.

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<v Speaker 2>The Louisiana Attorney General had suggested that the Sugar Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>should be postponed until Friday. Was originally scheduled to be

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<v Speaker 2>played on Wednesday, between Notre Dame and Georgia. Louisiana did

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<v Speaker 2>postpone it until today, but it's actually just about to end.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like the score is Notre Dame twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia ten. There's a few seconds for remaining in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>reason she thought it should be postponed until Friday was

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<v Speaker 2>because people in New Orleans needed more time to grieve

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<v Speaker 2>and deal with the attack that left fifteen people dead

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<v Speaker 2>and at least thirty five injured, and she said that

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<v Speaker 2>they were still actually, at least at some point today,

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<v Speaker 2>still cleaning up bodies off the street. Hours after that,

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<v Speaker 2>I think before the Sugar Bowl, Bourbon Street did open

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<v Speaker 2>again in New Orleans, and obviously the majority of people

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<v Speaker 2>in the state, or those making decisions anyways, decided to

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's always the American debate when we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about terrorist attacks on our nation, is keeping our country

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<v Speaker 2>going how we're used to doing things, and not closing

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<v Speaker 2>down everything and not letting terrorists think that they can

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<v Speaker 2>control what we do and what we celebrate and where

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<v Speaker 2>we go and how we live our lives. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that commonly becomes the American position is to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe for twenty four hours, we'll shut something down. We're

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<v Speaker 2>definitely going to investigate, we're definitely going to catch you

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<v Speaker 2>and take you down, but we're not going to let

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<v Speaker 2>you stop our way of life. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the attorney Chantal had a perfectly reasonable position to say that,

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not what they ended up doing, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the Sugar Bowl is probably ending as we speak right now,

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<v Speaker 2>with Notre Dame winning.

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<v Speaker 4>When we talk.

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<v Speaker 2>About sports, everyone who ever listens to me knows that

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<v Speaker 2>Dan is far more an expert on sports than I am.

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<v Speaker 2>But on New Year's I've actually got to go to

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<v Speaker 2>an Avalanche game with my husband. He got some tickets

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<v Speaker 2>from someone he works with, which was really really great

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<v Speaker 2>because actually the guy who had the tickets has had

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<v Speaker 2>actually well I mean literally on the ice, but right

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<v Speaker 4>So I am a big Avalanche fan, even though I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't follow all their games, but it's pretty great to

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<v Speaker 4>They won five to two.

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<v Speaker 2>NHL at the time in the division. If you follow hockey,

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<v Speaker 2>Abs were a third, So winning this game was actually

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<v Speaker 2>pull your goaltender and bring bring another person on the ice.

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<v Speaker 2>But they did it with two minutes left, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the Abs actually scored twice on an open net because

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<v Speaker 2>even after they scored once, they still pulled out their goalie.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, the Jets clearly weren't having a great night.

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<v Speaker 2>They had two different people on their team break sticks.

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<v Speaker 2>One was an accident. This is how the Abs actually.

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<v Speaker 4>Scored their third goal.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the Jets players his stick was snapped in

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<v Speaker 2>half laying on the ice and so he could only

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<v Speaker 2>like skate around but couldn't do too much. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the other one who broke his stick actually purposely broke

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<v Speaker 2>it at the end of the game and he whacked

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<v Speaker 2>it against the goalposts. Because you know, the Apps one

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<v Speaker 2>five to two, beating the top ranked team in the NHL.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't do sports, not much, but when I.

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<v Speaker 2>Do, apparently I get to go to really great games.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a really fun one to end twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in ball Arena they actually did indoor fireworks,

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<v Speaker 2>which I have never seen before, but they did like

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<v Speaker 2>a five minute firework show at the end, and it

447
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<v Speaker 2>was really like literally just a bunch of fire coming

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<v Speaker 2>up from the ice and then what I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>our giants sparklers lighting up, but the music was very,

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<v Speaker 2>very loud.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a good five minute show to end the year.

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<v Speaker 2>So hopefully you had a similarly great end to your

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four and are all ready for this year.

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<v Speaker 2>In every new year, what I've done for the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years is I have a goal to read

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<v Speaker 2>a certain number of books.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what kind of goals you guys have.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the books that I started this year

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<v Speaker 2>started listening to you today, as a book by Neil Gorsich.

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<v Speaker 2>His new book called Overruled, And as everyone knows, he

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<v Speaker 2>is a Supreme Court justice, happens to be my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>justice on the US Supreme Court, and also, of course

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<v Speaker 2>a justice from here in Colorado used to serve on

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<v Speaker 2>the Tenth Circuit.

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<v Speaker 4>But his book Overruled, I think a lot of you

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<v Speaker 4>would find.

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<v Speaker 2>Very interesting because it actually talks about all the ways

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<v Speaker 2>that laws, too many laws, burden individual people's lives.

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<v Speaker 4>He talks about.

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<v Speaker 2>His theory that law should not only be crafted to

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<v Speaker 2>serve the general public, but specifically to defend individual rights.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are an individual and the law is trampling

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<v Speaker 2>all over your rights in the name of protecting or

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, giving something in particular and really protecting them,

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<v Speaker 2>but giving something in particular to the general public, we

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<v Speaker 2>should really look at a law like that and say,

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<v Speaker 2>why is it trampling all over the rights of the individual.

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<v Speaker 2>So I appreciate his perspective that he's very centered on

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<v Speaker 2>the rights of individual people.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what our nation is founded on.

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<v Speaker 2>So it makes America unique that we don't just look

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<v Speaker 2>at everyone as a big monolith, but we look at

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<v Speaker 2>individuals and at protecting every person's equal protection under the laws.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very big on the equal protection clause, actually written

485
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<v Speaker 2>a whole book on that, which I also recommend. But

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<v Speaker 2>one reason that the book overruled is particularly interesting by

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorstich is in light of the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the Chevron doctrine was overturned last year. In

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<v Speaker 2>my work at Advanced Colorado, we submitted in a Meekas

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<v Speaker 2>brief in that case on the right side, and the

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<v Speaker 2>court did overturn the Chevron doctrine. After decades of that

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<v Speaker 2>doctrine being used by regulatory agencies executive power, both in

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<v Speaker 2>the federal governments and in states.

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<v Speaker 4>It really hasn't been corrected in states yet.

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<v Speaker 2>But to create all these regulations that trample small businesses

496
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<v Speaker 2>and corporations at large, and with every new president, the

497
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<v Speaker 2>regulations change, and so expectations and pressures on businesses become different,

498
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<v Speaker 2>requirements change up. You can't even expect what the law

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<v Speaker 2>requires you to do. One of the big problems with

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<v Speaker 2>the Chevron doctrine, and there were a lot, but the US

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court, with Neil Gorstich on it, overturned that doctrine

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<v Speaker 2>last year. His book over Rule specifically brings a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stories to light where people were trampled on in

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<v Speaker 2>their small individual lives by an overwhelming body of law,

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<v Speaker 2>where often government officials weren't even aware of all the

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<v Speaker 2>laws they had. So if you're not necessarily looking for

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<v Speaker 2>a super scholarly read, which you might think you would

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<v Speaker 2>find from a US Supreme Court justice is only like

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<v Speaker 2>super in the clouds highly intellectual treatises, And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>he writes those two, but I think he's really good

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<v Speaker 2>in his books about bringing it down to earth and

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<v Speaker 2>actually sharing the stories of people fishermen, foster parents, people

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<v Speaker 2>like that who were deeply affected by a law. On rogue,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say law being misused by regulatory agencies, volumes

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<v Speaker 2>of laws being created when a couple of pages are

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<v Speaker 2>all that were all that was required. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>also like to hear about stories of how law has

518
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<v Speaker 2>taken over people's lives and damaged it but then was corrected,

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<v Speaker 2>and what the solutions are are going forward for course

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<v Speaker 2>for lawmakers for average citizens to fight against this. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the book Overruled by Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorstich.

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<v Speaker 4>Is a great read.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I'm starting off my new year, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>you have some great goals too. Welcome to share them

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<v Speaker 2>with us if you want to text in Dan to

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<v Speaker 2>five seven, seven three nine, or you want to call

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<v Speaker 2>eight five five four zero five eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 2>We're about to take a break on the Dan Kaplis Show,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm actually going to be back tomorrow too.

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<v Speaker 4>After this hour is over.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow, I have a lot of guests coming on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>so I hope you'll tune in then as well. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk to a new state representative who's bringing

534
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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the most critical pieces of criminal

535
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<v Speaker 2>justice legislation this session. I think he already has some

536
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<v Speaker 2>bipartisan support on it. We're going to talk to Barb Kirkmeyer,

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<v Speaker 2>who many people think might run for governor on the

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<v Speaker 2>Republican side. But don't worry, she's not making an announcement.

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<v Speaker 2>She's actually on the JBC Joint Budget Commitee. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the big, big problem in the budget

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<v Speaker 2>for the state and the legislature to contend with this year.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we'll also have on Michael Fields, who's the

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<v Speaker 2>president of Advanced Colorado. We are releasing on Monday legislative

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<v Speaker 2>policy agenda for twenty twenty five with some critical issues

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<v Speaker 2>we think the state should deal with, So he'll be

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<v Speaker 2>here tomorrow to talk about that as well. Keep it

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<v Speaker 2>right here on the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>To accomplish more things, get good things done, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>learn a lot more. One of the potentially not so

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<v Speaker 2>great things about this year is there doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 2>be a change yet in affordability in Colorado. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just talking to a friend of mine, oh, and bowling

554
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<v Speaker 2>with our friends on New Year's Day, or really the

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<v Speaker 2>kids old and the parents talked. But one of my

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<v Speaker 2>friends was sharing that they were evaluating their budget over

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<v Speaker 2>the year and comparing kind of year to year estimates

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<v Speaker 2>and that groceries had cost them seven hundred dollars more

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<v Speaker 2>a month in twenty twenty four. And actually, if you

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<v Speaker 2>read some really good reports done by the Common Sense

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<v Speaker 2>Institute here in Colorado, it actually matches up. In case

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<v Speaker 2>people are like, oh, my goodness, that's an outlier. It's

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<v Speaker 2>actually not. The Common Sense Institute showed that in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, the average Colorado family was paying twelve hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars more a month in basic expenses, whether you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about groceries, transportation, which of course includes gas, housing or

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<v Speaker 2>healthcare was the other one, and so obviously it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to look a little different for different families.

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<v Speaker 4>Some were going to end up spending more at the

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<v Speaker 4>grocery store.

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<v Speaker 2>Some in gas, and some certainly in healthcare or housing.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think there's some relief, obviously with housing when

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<v Speaker 2>it relates to property taxes on the way, due to

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<v Speaker 2>the deal that was reached in the special session in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, which caps property tax increases for people

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<v Speaker 2>and prevents the giant spikes that we saw. But those

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<v Speaker 2>kind of inflationary prices and increase in costs lack of

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<v Speaker 2>affordability in Colorado don't really show that they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be coming down. So that's going to be a hard

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<v Speaker 2>thing to confront in twenty twenty five. I'll be very

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<v Speaker 2>interested when we talk to Senator Barb Kirkmeyer tomorrow how

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<v Speaker 2>she is going to explain how the state is going

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 4>It has too much debt.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, it can't well, let's see, they can't fund everything

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<v Speaker 2>they're supposed.

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<v Speaker 4>To pay for.

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<v Speaker 2>She could explain it a lot better than I can.

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<v Speaker 2>She's on the Joint Budget Committee, and we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>all of that. But the Klora budget is in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>The legislature has to figure out ways to cut basically

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't have the money they claim they need

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<v Speaker 2>to pay for things. And Colorado actually prevented from going

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<v Speaker 2>into debt as a state because we have certain limits,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the state's gonna have to cut.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course they like to.

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<v Speaker 2>Claim they can't, but I think Senator Kirkmeyer will have

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<v Speaker 2>some good answers on how the state is going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to do what families in Colorado are doing, which

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<v Speaker 2>is looking at budgets and cutting non essential things because

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<v Speaker 2>you have to pay for food on your tables and

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<v Speaker 2>essential things to pay for for your kids. I think

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<v Speaker 2>one of the other interesting things coming into this new

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<v Speaker 2>year will be to see how much influence someone like

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk actually has when Trump gets into office. He's

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<v Speaker 2>obviously had a fairly outsized influence spending some political money.

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<v Speaker 4>He claims he's going to keep doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Also pretty in with the Make America a Great Again team.

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<v Speaker 2>But it'll be interesting to see a difference in Trump

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<v Speaker 2>on the campaign trail with Elon Musk. Does it stay

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<v Speaker 2>the same in the White House? Does it become different?

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously he put him, along with Vek roam Oswami, in

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<v Speaker 2>charge of Dodge and so we'll see how many of

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<v Speaker 2>those suggestions and recommendations to get the United States in

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<v Speaker 2>a good budget actually happens, and how many cuts happen

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<v Speaker 2>to bad spending. I hope a lot of them happen,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll see. I think one of the good things

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<v Speaker 2>about how vocal Elon Musk has decided to be after

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<v Speaker 2>he bought Twitter or x is that he's bringing attention

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<v Speaker 2>to a lot of things that governments would rather cover up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we need people with a loud voice and

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<v Speaker 2>outsized influence to expose what's going on in government that

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<v Speaker 2>people should be aware of. He's actually doing that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>In the UK, there were a lot of actually this

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna sound horrible because it is, but child rape

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<v Speaker 2>gangs led by people from Pakistan who are over in

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<v Speaker 2>the UK, and there was.

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<v Speaker 4>A failure of investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>And Elon Musk is talking about this on Twitter, as

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<v Speaker 2>are a number of other people right now. But Dude,

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<v Speaker 2>in their criminal justice system in Britain, you actually have

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<v Speaker 2>a person in a certain position who has to agree

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<v Speaker 2>to prosecutions for serious crimes like rape. Well, their current

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<v Speaker 2>prime minister used to be in that position. He used

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<v Speaker 2>to be the person who had to approve these prosecutions.

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<v Speaker 2>He failed to approve these prosecutions for people in these

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<v Speaker 2>child rape gangs. And now all this is coming out,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the person in that position right now is saying, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to do an audit. We're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to do an investigation, which a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 2>pushing for in Britain right now, but they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do it because it would likely implicate their current

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<v Speaker 2>prime minister with his failure to investigate. And it goes

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<v Speaker 2>even deeper than this, because not only did they fail

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<v Speaker 2>to investigate, arrest.

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<v Speaker 4>And charge the people who were involved in these.

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<v Speaker 2>Child rape gangs, usually young girls actually who were kidnapped

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<v Speaker 2>and taken by these gangs made up mostly or if

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<v Speaker 2>not solely, by Pakistanis who were in Britain at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but They also actually arrested parents. When dads would come

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<v Speaker 2>to the house where they found that their daughters were

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<v Speaker 2>being held, police would show up and arrest the dads

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<v Speaker 2>for coming to get their daughters. And if all this

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like highly unbelievable when I first heard about it,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, there's no way that can actually be true.

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<v Speaker 4>But it is.

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<v Speaker 2>There's all this documentation. You can find it for yourself

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<v Speaker 2>indicating exactly what is happening and did happen in particular

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<v Speaker 2>with no consequences compared to what should have happened in

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<v Speaker 2>Britain for these child rape gangs, and how parents were

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<v Speaker 2>targeted for defending their own children and trying to rescue them,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Prime Minister in his former position was involved

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<v Speaker 2>in failing to solve this problem and get it under

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<v Speaker 2>control and prosecute the people who were committing these absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>horrible crimes. I think these were the kind of things

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<v Speaker 2>that we need people like Elon Musk on Twitter, on

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<v Speaker 2>x bringing to light and talking about the corruption in

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<v Speaker 2>so many governments, because I think often when things are

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<v Speaker 2>brought to light, then people can do things about them,

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<v Speaker 2>bring them to an end, and figure out a way

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<v Speaker 2>to prevent them. From happening ever again, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>to the text line. In our last few minutes, I

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<v Speaker 2>know a number of people gave some ideas. I talked

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<v Speaker 2>about reading Overruled by Neil Gorsich. Another person says, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>reading the blueprint looking for ways to undo the Democrat

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<v Speaker 2>hold and execute a retaking of Colorado. And they also

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<v Speaker 2>think we need John Oway to run for governor. He'd

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot better than Phil Wiser. Someone else says

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<v Speaker 2>we should search Gorsic PBS firing line interview he did

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<v Speaker 2>about three months ago, where he talked about his book

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<v Speaker 2>and other things. He was very charismatic and engaging. Seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a great guy and a great justice. I'd agree

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<v Speaker 2>with that. He's my favorite justice on the US Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't agree, of course, with every single opinion he's written,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's written some really really great opinions focus on

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<v Speaker 2>equal protection and individual rights for the individual, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's too many jurists who lose that perspective a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit and sometimes really do think of the greater good.

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<v Speaker 2>And I understand that, but I think sometimes when you

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<v Speaker 2>focus on the greater good in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Law, you lose sight of the individual rights. That's very,

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<v Speaker 4>very important.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone else writing in about the insane cost of eggs

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<v Speaker 2>and the store at Walmart. I am feeling that too.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for being on the Dan Capitalists Show today.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Christy Burton Brown. I'll be with you tomorrow. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of great interviews coming up tomorrow, talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>legislative session that is already upon us next Wednesday. Enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>your new year. I'll be here on the Dan Caplis

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<v Speaker 2>Show tomorrow. I hope you will be too.
