Speaker 1: All right, everybody, we're alive. I'm here with Rider Lee.
Speaker 1: How are you doing, Writer.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Thanks so much for having me on.
Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. We got a lot of stuff to
Speaker 2: get into here today, including my new documentary, Psychic Agent
Speaker 2: The Gate Program, which will hopefully be available on Amazon
Speaker 2: Prime in the next couple of days. I don't know
Speaker 2: a week. Hopefully it's not going to be that long.
Speaker 2: It's already been quite a bit of time. But keep
Speaker 2: checking back on Amazon Prime. If it's not up by
Speaker 2: the time you're watching this, just keep checking back and
Speaker 2: it'll be up there at some point.
Speaker 1: Here's what AI says about you. They said, Writer Lee
Speaker 1: is a multifaceted creative professional known as a podcaster, filmmaker, director.
Speaker 1: And were you a former country band member? No, okay,
Speaker 1: that's what they're saying. You were a part of a
Speaker 1: country bad and AI they talk about your JFKX documentary,
Speaker 1: also a Clockwork Shining, which I know you did, and
Speaker 1: now the Psychic Agent Gay Program. But they have you
Speaker 1: listed as a former country music band member. That's a
Speaker 1: conspiracy and of itself.
Speaker 2: I don't like country music. I don't even listen. I
Speaker 2: don't like country music. Does it look like I like
Speaker 2: country music.
Speaker 1: And be in a country I think it's country music
Speaker 1: is supposed to be a sie up in of itself mkalstuf.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean the country music, the rap music,
Speaker 2: it's all it's all inter twined and intermixed, and they
Speaker 2: all serve out their own types of agendas for the
Speaker 2: people the types of people that listen to those. And
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with country music. I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: not my thing. I just don't like it, but it's
Speaker 2: nothing against the people that do. You know, if you
Speaker 2: like whatever you want to like, if that's what helps
Speaker 2: you out and get you through the day, then more
Speaker 2: power to you. It's just not my cup of tea.
Speaker 1: So everybody that's joining in the comments, meme writer are
Speaker 1: just going to go for it. Puts your questions in there,
Speaker 1: But if I don't take them right away, I'll get
Speaker 1: to them towards the end. I just want to get
Speaker 1: through this stuff and keep the narrative, and so your
Speaker 1: questions hopefully will be answered unless they're unless we've already
Speaker 1: answered them while we're talking. So we'll go through it.
Speaker 1: And I've already had someone saying they know everything about it.
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk isn't dead. I don't know if I believe that,
Speaker 1: but you know that I'll keep my mind open. You
Speaker 1: never know with this crazy world. But so what I'm
Speaker 1: going to start with first, to let you kind of
Speaker 1: lead off with it, writer, is I kind of want
Speaker 1: to know what led you into looking, because we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about the Gateway Project act. Actually, let's actually
Speaker 1: before I ask you the questions, let's go in and
Speaker 1: I'm want to show people. At least we can't show
Speaker 1: the clips. We can show the actual trailer for your
Speaker 1: new documentary and check that out, and then we'll talk
Speaker 1: about what actually led you to looking at the Gateway
Speaker 1: program and starting on this documentary.
Speaker 2: Many people claim and many others question the existence of
Speaker 2: esp CIA director Stansfield Turner had disclosed. The CIA chief
Speaker 2: said that the agency found a man who could see
Speaker 2: what was going on anywhere in the world. There were
Speaker 2: his psychic powers.
Speaker 1: An individual can sit down and describe the scene ten
Speaker 1: thousand miles away.
Speaker 2: What does that really mean.
Speaker 3: We provided information to the military, the CIA, the DIE
Speaker 3: and other three letter organizations, three letters that we've never
Speaker 3: heard of.
Speaker 2: We had a success. We found that airplane. Surely that's
Speaker 2: not going to end there. What more could this be
Speaker 2: used for? Could one get inside of someone else's head?
Speaker 3: The Russians who were doing psychic spine, but they were
Speaker 3: also doing a program called dolny ghypnos and that is
Speaker 3: hypnosis at a distance. Can they handle this topic that
Speaker 3: becoming overly emotional one me or another? I thought the
Speaker 3: Army doesn't use psychics. Come on, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: If a person's belief system does not believe in remote wheeling,
Speaker 1: nothing you do is going to change their mind.
Speaker 3: At that time, it was politically profitable to somebody to
Speaker 3: uh not find their people was pre contented.
Speaker 2: At the Phillies have been around for centuries.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of information in my head that
Speaker 3: is going to die with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and apply today.
Speaker 3: I'm not want to create it.
Speaker 2: The words starr Yate. There were several reasons why the
Speaker 2: program closed down.
Speaker 3: And what about today? Are there any operational groups right
Speaker 3: now ongoing somewhere within the government.
Speaker 2: Is it possible that after Stargate was shut down a
Speaker 2: new program open way, more sophisticated and invasive, such.
Speaker 1: A program more to exist. I think it would be
Speaker 1: so compartmental and so buried so deep.
Speaker 3: But nobody really ever talks about that, and I won't either.
Speaker 3: You can get to a person at the subconscious level
Speaker 3: and persuade them to do things. I had one of
Speaker 3: the highest security clarences in the government.
Speaker 2: From what I was told, there are.
Speaker 3: Only seventeen people who ever had that high security clarence.
Speaker 2: Is it possible to psychically assassinate someone? I won't.
Speaker 3: I won't really go into that. There's some things you
Speaker 3: don't want to know.
Speaker 1: You're finally starting to remember.
Speaker 2: You should be hearing my voice. You should be hearing
Speaker 2: my voice.
Speaker 3: You should be hearing my voice, and you're right here.
Speaker 1: I did hear your voice in my right air. Good one,
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: So why the Gate program? What propelled you to say
Speaker 1: this is my next project?
Speaker 2: Well, I started looking heavily into the remote viewing Stargate program,
Speaker 2: and I had brought several of the individuals that are
Speaker 2: in this documentary on my show, and I felt like
Speaker 2: that there really hadn't been a cohesive layout of how
Speaker 2: the Stargate project was developed in all the name changes
Speaker 2: that it went through, because it's very confusing and convoluted history,
Speaker 2: and it seems like not a lot of people, even
Speaker 2: the people that were literally in the program, has an
Speaker 2: accurate history of the program itself and how it came
Speaker 2: to be and where the research first started. And I
Speaker 2: found that to be kind of odd. There's always like
Speaker 2: these weird discrepancies within It's like all the people that
Speaker 2: were in the program no longer like really get along
Speaker 2: with each other. There's only a handful of people, like
Speaker 2: the three actual remote viewers that are in the movie.
Speaker 2: You just saw them. Buchan in there and Angela Ford
Speaker 2: and Dell Graf was the director and the operations manager
Speaker 2: of the Stargate Psychic Spy DIA Army Intelligence program. He
Speaker 2: wasn't a remote viewer, but he was basically in charge
Speaker 2: of all of the remote viewers. And he's the one
Speaker 2: that coined the term Stargate. He's the one that created
Speaker 2: that name Stargate for the remote unit. It went through
Speaker 2: several name changes, and I was like, I really need
Speaker 2: to get a comprehensive history of this program and get
Speaker 2: it onto film so that people can really understand how
Speaker 2: far back it really goes. As I completed that, I
Speaker 2: was like, I really started looking into the Gate program stuff.
Speaker 2: And a lot of people have claimed to have been
Speaker 2: through the Gate program, you know, millions of kids since
Speaker 2: the sixties, and if you watched a documentary, you'll find
Speaker 2: out that it may have been started even before the sixties,
Speaker 2: and it might have been a operation by the literal military.
Speaker 2: So basically when the education became, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: funded by the government because we were the official excuse
Speaker 2: for it was that we were lacking in you know,
Speaker 2: scientists and astronauts and engineers, and we needed to keep
Speaker 2: up with Russia. You know, Russia was literally the excuse
Speaker 2: for doing anything after World War Two, which still kind
Speaker 2: of persistently exactly, and it's still kind of a thing
Speaker 2: into like this very day. We still are going through that.
Speaker 2: We're still we got to do this before. It's kind
Speaker 2: of shifted from Russia more to China now. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: it was Russia for a really long time, and we
Speaker 2: still do consider Russia our enemy. And it turns out
Speaker 2: that Russia on paper got a lot of World War
Speaker 2: two Nazi scientists and engineers more than the United States did,
Speaker 2: and they put them all on a train and brought
Speaker 2: them into Russia after the war, which was the Russian
Speaker 2: version of Project paper Clip. Not a lot of people
Speaker 2: talk about that because they don't know about it. We
Speaker 2: tend to just focus on, you know, the United States
Speaker 2: and all the Nazis that we brought into the United States.
Speaker 2: But on paper, the Russian version of the americanized project
Speaker 2: paper clip, all upwards of six thousand Nazi officers, scientists,
Speaker 2: and engineers and their families entered into Russia after World
Speaker 2: War Two, which is almost triple what the Verify account
Speaker 2: was that came into the United States. Now, people claimed
Speaker 2: that it was much larger. The groups of Nazis that
Speaker 2: came into the United States out of Germany was much
Speaker 2: larger than what was documented, and it very may well
Speaker 2: have been right, But on paper, Russia got more of them.
Speaker 2: So this kind of this gifted and talented education stuff
Speaker 2: when the government became involved, which had a lot to
Speaker 2: do with the Rockefeller Foundation and then putting standardized testing
Speaker 2: into public school and this kind of really started when
Speaker 2: Russia beat us in the space when they launched the Sputnik,
Speaker 2: and this really freaked out the Eisenhower administration, right, and
Speaker 2: they thought, well, what's the best way to, you know,
Speaker 2: keep up with the Russians, the best way to how
Speaker 2: do we get these all these you know, big time engineers.
Speaker 2: How do we get these people, the scientists and the
Speaker 2: inventors and all of that, you know, out of the
Speaker 2: box thinkers. Well, I know what we can do. We
Speaker 2: can control the education system. So if we get them
Speaker 2: at a very young age, we can bring them into
Speaker 2: the fold and then program them and then they'll just
Speaker 2: follow along in whatever that we tell them. Right, And
Speaker 2: the best people to do this too is children. Right.
Speaker 1: So that's basically the Gateway Program. That's what it was.
Speaker 1: Did it encompass anything else besides just for engineering.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of distinctions here. The Gateway Program is
Speaker 2: something completely different than the gate program. The gate Program
Speaker 2: is Gifted and Talented education that was for the public schools.
Speaker 2: The Gateway Program is the Monroe Institute HEMI sync.
Speaker 1: Technology right right, right.
Speaker 2: They are intertwined because people believe that they heard the
Speaker 2: Gateway tapes in public school inside of these Gifted and
Speaker 2: Talented education programs, that they were putt out of the
Speaker 2: classroom taking to a separability in or a completely separate classroom.
Speaker 2: And many of them remember hearing the Monroe Institute Gateway tapes.
Speaker 2: That's what was played at the end of the trailer.
Speaker 2: You should be hearing my voice in your right ear.
Speaker 2: That's the Monroe Institute Gateway tapes that.
Speaker 1: Actually spooked me out when I heard his voice say that,
Speaker 1: I was like, Eh, I don't want to hear your voice,
Speaker 1: am I right ear? I'm an adela, a child, you know,
Speaker 1: easily to very malleable, easy to manipulate.
Speaker 2: Exactly right. And you know that's the children are of
Speaker 2: the future, you know, And if anyone really kind of
Speaker 2: steps out of law or steps outside of the box,
Speaker 2: they then it's harder for them to do that because
Speaker 2: they're already being controlled. You know, this is a big
Speaker 2: reason why not a lot of things tend to really
Speaker 2: get better in our reality. We don't really have too
Speaker 2: many things that has really revolutionized our way of life
Speaker 2: in the last fifty years, right, I mean, we've had inventions,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. We've had like the cell
Speaker 2: phone and the computers and electronic stuff, but nothing to
Speaker 2: really revolutionize the way that we live on a daily basis,
Speaker 2: you know, Like and that's.
Speaker 1: More corrupt and worse and more pyramidy where the pyramids,
Speaker 1: you know, there's more on the bottom than there is
Speaker 1: on the top. It's just more oligarchy craziness and war.
Speaker 2: And the reason for that is anybody that can make
Speaker 2: a difference in our reality, in our world is already
Speaker 2: working for the government.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: That was the goal was to scoop up all of
Speaker 2: those people, put them into the military, put them into
Speaker 2: the Three letter organizations, put them into companies and CEOs
Speaker 2: of companies, writers for the New York Post, writers for
Speaker 2: you know, movie actors. You know, they've been essentially bred
Speaker 2: for their role in society. And the sad part is
Speaker 2: hardly none of them know it. The only people that
Speaker 2: have any kind of inkling that anything like this happened
Speaker 2: is the ones that did not accept the program in
Speaker 2: public school. They didn't go long with the agenda, and
Speaker 2: their life normally does not turn out very well.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's children that they find hard to
Speaker 1: program because I remember them testing me and I was
Speaker 1: a brat in school. I remember them testing me a
Speaker 1: lot and I was really mouthy. Though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, those people end up having They say that
Speaker 2: they have problems with them, they have ADHD, they have
Speaker 2: they diagnose them with all these disorders and autoimmune disorders.
Speaker 2: They call them crazy. They'll lock them up in an
Speaker 2: insane asylum. That's what happened with Charlie Kirk. They wanted
Speaker 2: to literally lock Charlie Kirk up in an insane asylum
Speaker 2: when he was a kid. Yeah, and his mom refused it,
Speaker 2: and then they put and then they put him into
Speaker 2: the Gate program. So it's like then other people are
Speaker 2: like drug addicts, they're alcoholics, they have all of these
Speaker 2: issues that when they don't accept the programming, you know
Speaker 2: that they don't accept what is where they're trying to
Speaker 2: push their life and where they're trying to push their
Speaker 2: what they're supposed to be doing career wise and working
Speaker 2: for them. They essentially just try and completely destroy the
Speaker 2: individual's life. And that can be there's a lot of
Speaker 2: testimony of that, you know, like with with people online.
Speaker 2: You know, the people that actually remember this type of
Speaker 2: you know, stuff happening to them are not very well
Speaker 2: off people. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't that they
Speaker 2: should be like that. It's just the kind of the
Speaker 2: fact of the matter, and you can get up out
Speaker 2: of that. But it's just very difficult. And I'm talking
Speaker 2: about the people that you know, we're being forced to
Speaker 2: take a strange substance, you know, the pink drink, you know,
Speaker 2: playing with blocks, playing with strings people describe as like
Speaker 2: three D glasses, which is a very real thing that's
Speaker 2: actually called the Handsfeld experiment. It's to essentially induce hallucinations
Speaker 2: and activate your psychic abilities. And you can actually just
Speaker 2: do this yourself. You don't have to do anything special.
Speaker 2: You just cut a ping pong ball in half and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you just take them to your eyeballs and then you
Speaker 2: take a bright red light and shine it on your face.
Speaker 2: And anyone that's done this for a long period of
Speaker 2: time has experienced something. Right.
Speaker 1: When I was really young in the province I lived
Speaker 1: in Canada, kindergarten was not mandatory. I skipped kindergarten, went
Speaker 1: right to grade one, and I couldn't I absolutely couldn't
Speaker 1: stand school. I was like what, I just it felt
Speaker 1: really dangerous and I don't know how to explain that.
Speaker 1: And now they try to get them into like high
Speaker 1: like pre schools, like they're trying to get them younger
Speaker 1: and younger and younger. And I remember in the early
Speaker 1: eighties I didn't have to go to kindergarten, and now
Speaker 1: they have to go full days and sometimes they're trying
Speaker 1: to get them into special preschools. It's crazy. They want
Speaker 1: to take them from a surprise, they're not in the hospital,
Speaker 1: taking them from the womb. Maybe they are, they might be.
Speaker 2: And the ones that slip through the cracks, you know,
Speaker 2: the ones that don't really go along with the program,
Speaker 2: or they tried to invent something that would revolutionize the
Speaker 2: way we operate as a society. Their patents are buried
Speaker 2: under the National Security Act. No one will ever find
Speaker 2: out about it, and a lot of times they're killed, assassinated,
Speaker 2: or murdered for just trying to make a difference. The
Speaker 2: guy with the water car suspicious does a guy that
Speaker 2: literally modified his vehicle to get up to like one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty miles gallon by adding an extra some
Speaker 2: type of thing onto the engine that made this car
Speaker 2: run way longer on one gallon of gas ended up dead.
Speaker 2: All these main, big time inventors that could actually do
Speaker 2: something about the way that we live, it's just their
Speaker 2: patterns are destroyed, they're covered up. And the ones that
Speaker 2: don't go along with that and that attempt to keep
Speaker 2: doing it, they're then killed and assassinated. Right, And that's
Speaker 2: just the ones the faulty. Everybody else is already working
Speaker 2: for the defense contractors. They're already working for the military
Speaker 2: industrial complex, so they're under like a secrecy pact where
Speaker 2: they can't come out and say, you know, because it's
Speaker 2: not your product, you're creating something for somebody else, Right,
Speaker 2: And that's how I feel is exactly what's going on
Speaker 2: and why nothing seems to change, just because we've just
Speaker 2: gotten all the people that can make a difference at
Speaker 2: a very young age and they've been brought in. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's the best way to do it. So when the
Speaker 2: government got involved with the public education system, they just
Speaker 2: would go out and identify these people, sometimes based off
Speaker 2: of certain testing. There's literally a document that I show
Speaker 2: inside of the movie that tells you all the list
Speaker 2: of qualifications for a gifted and talented individual. And it
Speaker 2: just doesn't talk about being smart. It's also about being creative,
Speaker 2: it's about being outside of the box thinkers, it's about
Speaker 2: it's a whole list of things. It's not just academics
Speaker 2: that they were looking for. They were looking for entertainers,
Speaker 2: people that can entertain people, right, And this is all
Speaker 2: all laid out and one of the gifted and talented
Speaker 2: education documents that I literally show in the movie, right,
Speaker 2: So other than just recruiting people, because that is a
Speaker 2: major part of it, there's also things that you know,
Speaker 2: like I mentioned with the pink drink, the playing with
Speaker 2: blocks and strings and the three D glasses, and we
Speaker 2: also have a thing that a lot of people remember
Speaker 2: inside of the gay program as flash cards, and those
Speaker 2: are very real.
Speaker 1: In the documentary, you briefly someone kind of mentions like,
Speaker 1: is it still operating? Kind of like MK ultra, You
Speaker 1: know they close it down, but is it still operating?
Speaker 1: I'm going to say and obvious yes, but you obviously
Speaker 1: cover that in your documentary about what it is today
Speaker 1: and what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Absolutely it is. I actually had someone reached out to
Speaker 2: me and told.
Speaker 3: Me that.
Speaker 2: Some really strange things were happening with his children in school.
Speaker 2: And I trust this an individual. I know them pretty well,
Speaker 2: and when they found out that I was making this documentary,
Speaker 2: they got in contact with me and I talked to
Speaker 2: them on the phone for a while and they said
Speaker 2: that this was I don't know, five or six months ago,
Speaker 2: when I was actually in the process of making the movie.
Speaker 2: I was going to try and interview him, but he
Speaker 2: didn't want his identity to be revealed, like a lot
Speaker 2: of people don't want their identity to be revealed, but
Speaker 2: very scared because it's super terrifying. But the individual told
Speaker 2: me that his daughter came home from school one day
Speaker 2: and told him that every day, for two hours, a
Speaker 2: black van shows up to the school and take her
Speaker 2: and a handful of other kids and they go to
Speaker 2: a separate location. And she called them like field trips
Speaker 2: and this this was happening every single day, and that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't field trips have to have consent forms?
Speaker 1: My parents usual parents know when field trips are happening,
Speaker 1: that parents haven't done field trips.
Speaker 2: Right, But that's what they're telling the child to get
Speaker 2: the child to go right. And and that's what she's
Speaker 2: relating to the to the to the parent, is that, yeah,
Speaker 2: we go on these field trip, a black band comes,
Speaker 2: picks up a handful of me and a handful of kids.
Speaker 2: And then another really surprising thing that he told me
Speaker 2: that his daughter said to him was that every night,
Speaker 2: these same group of kids all come and get her.
Speaker 2: They all come to her house at their house at night,
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night and get her out
Speaker 2: of bed and wake her up. And then like they
Speaker 2: go and have like they go and do stuff every night.
Speaker 1: She didn't detail what kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I didn't have. I think he might have told me,
Speaker 2: but I it was like a meeting. They would have
Speaker 2: like a meeting or something. And this really like disturbed
Speaker 2: him a lot. And when she said this, he immediately
Speaker 2: took her out of public school and put her into
Speaker 2: private school. So I don't know how much better price.
Speaker 1: Private school better. I'm sure they can target private schools too.
Speaker 2: And also apparently homeschooling as well. There's a individual that
Speaker 2: commented on my post on my trailer video and said
Speaker 2: that she was in the Gate program because she was homeschooled.
Speaker 2: They would have these meetings like once or twice a
Speaker 2: week for Gifted and Talented education.
Speaker 1: Parents were in on it or they didn't know where
Speaker 1: they were being tricked. Some people homeschool and other parents
Speaker 1: teach their kids too.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is that the parents don't know.
Speaker 2: They think that this is a good thing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the HM.
Speaker 2: Right. The school says that your child's very talented, they're
Speaker 2: very smart, they need to be in this gifted and
Speaker 2: Talented education class, and the parents don't ask any more
Speaker 2: questions other than that, and they signed the papers and
Speaker 2: then boom, it's done. That's it. Now you just get
Speaker 2: told your child scored very high on this test, they
Speaker 2: need to be a part of a special classroom. Or
Speaker 2: in some cases it was kind of the opposite, and
Speaker 2: it depended on what part of the United States you
Speaker 2: went to public school in. You were given different reasons
Speaker 2: as to why you needed to be in this Gifted
Speaker 2: and Talented education class to be in this special class.
Speaker 2: Just like people were giving different reasons as to what
Speaker 2: the pink drink actually was. People were That's the thing,
Speaker 2: no one really knows. I believe that it was personally
Speaker 2: some sort of drug, but some people were told that
Speaker 2: it was liquid vitamins. Other people were told that it was.
Speaker 1: Different kinds in the audience had the pink drink? Let
Speaker 1: me know in the comments, a lot.
Speaker 2: Of people did.
Speaker 1: Now, did you come across any actual real government documents
Speaker 1: or anything in your research that was actually disturbing that
Speaker 1: really solidified your you know, your further investigation or your
Speaker 1: belief that this was really this really happened and it
Speaker 1: was really nefarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we show a documentation that there was and did
Speaker 2: have Gifted and Talented I mean it's all over everywhere.
Speaker 2: I mean, all that you really got to do is
Speaker 2: look up Gifted and Talented Education and you'll see when
Speaker 2: the Act was signed and it went under different names.
Speaker 2: Every state had kind of like a different name, but
Speaker 2: it all kind of fell under the banner of Gifted
Speaker 2: and Talented Education. Some of it was called WASP. They
Speaker 2: had different abbreviations for different types of programs, again hanging
Speaker 2: on which state that you were in. But there is
Speaker 2: a documentation that we show within the documentary that shows
Speaker 2: that literally the CIA has a file on every single
Speaker 2: child from preschool to your career. They got one on you,
Speaker 2: they got one on me, they got one on every
Speaker 2: single person listening, and it's stored in a database.
Speaker 1: It's kind of weird because it feels like their database
Speaker 1: and all their AI centers and stuff. Now it feels
Speaker 1: like they're trying to be like an acashaic record, but
Speaker 1: not a very nice one. It feels like they're they're
Speaker 1: copying something they know about what mystics say, and they're
Speaker 1: trying to but it's not because they care or want
Speaker 1: you to learn. It's for control. There's something very strange
Speaker 1: to this idea of everyone's in a database, everything stored
Speaker 1: forever we have you.
Speaker 2: Actual and the parents were starting to catch on to
Speaker 2: this and the late seventies and early eighties because they
Speaker 2: weren't able to get access to their to their child's
Speaker 2: school records at all. That literally went to court over it,
Speaker 2: and then the CIA basically slipped a some sort of
Speaker 2: memorandum into the bill that still allowed them to have
Speaker 2: access to the everyone's school records. Any child that they
Speaker 2: need their school records of they can have access to them,
Speaker 2: but now the parents can also have access to them.
Speaker 2: So they were trying to block the government and the
Speaker 2: CIA from getting access to their children's records, their school records,
Speaker 2: but they slipped in a memor random that it still
Speaker 2: gave them access but also allowed the parents' access to it.
Speaker 2: And that happened in like the early eighties. It's in
Speaker 2: the documentary. It's really unbelievable that it's gone that far.
Speaker 2: But there's nothing that you can do about it. There's
Speaker 2: nothing I can do about it, nothing you can do
Speaker 2: about it, not no parent can do anything about it.
Speaker 2: It's just what it is. And then the Patriot Act
Speaker 2: kind of came in and just solidified that and completely
Speaker 2: overruled anything that happened previously, because now it's just about
Speaker 2: you know, terrorism, right, and that's never gone away. That's
Speaker 2: been a thing since since nine to eleven, it's been
Speaker 2: that they've been able to spy on the good United
Speaker 2: States government has been able to spy on its own
Speaker 2: citizens legally under the banner of national security. And what
Speaker 2: is national security? When national security is whatever they say
Speaker 2: that it is, right, they can just make it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's it's weird how we let these governments, you know,
Speaker 1: take such an official position that they can just I mean,
Speaker 1: let's not I'm not going to beat around the bush.
Speaker 1: I mean all the national security stuff we need. We
Speaker 1: need national security from them because they're the one causing
Speaker 1: most of the trauma and reenactments and false flags. And
Speaker 1: and then isn't the CIA, Like obviously they're involved, but
Speaker 1: are they? Were they not created by the banking system itself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also partially formed out of Germany as well,
Speaker 2: so was essentially the OSUS in Germany. And then you know,
Speaker 2: we didn't have a CIA, We didn't hardly have any
Speaker 2: branches of the military until after World War Two and
Speaker 2: the Nationals Defense Authorization Act in nineteen forty seven is
Speaker 2: what then created all the branches of the military and
Speaker 2: all of the armed forces, and all of the three
Speaker 2: letter organizations. And let me tell you there are three
Speaker 2: letter organizations that nobody has any idea about.
Speaker 1: We don't even know they exist.
Speaker 2: You don't even know that they exist. Missile Intelligence Agency,
Speaker 2: which if you googled right now what the missile actually
Speaker 2: I want you to do this because this is actually
Speaker 2: really important. I want you to pull up on the
Speaker 2: screen screen share and type into Google Missile Intelligence Agency
Speaker 2: and see the description of what the Missile Intelligence Agency does.
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to do. Let's go here, We'll
Speaker 1: go here and we're going to share. Oh, this is
Speaker 1: going to work out. Guys, I just didn't have a
Speaker 1: share screen sign set up. Well, well, I think it's
Speaker 1: going to share. Yeah, there we go. All right, So
Speaker 1: we have Missile Intelligence Missile and Space Intelligence Center. The
Speaker 1: Missile and Space Intelligence Center a specialized component of the
Speaker 1: US Defense Intelligence Agency headquartered at the Richard C. Shelby
Speaker 1: Center for Missile Intelligence. It was formed in nineteen fifty
Speaker 1: six as a technical intelligent vision within the US Army
Speaker 1: Ballistic Missile Agent under doctor Werner von Braun. Do you
Speaker 1: have more you'd like to say about it besides what
Speaker 1: it says here?
Speaker 2: No, I just want you to keep reading because it
Speaker 2: might say what it is and what it's not. You
Speaker 2: might have to put in what does the Missile Intelligence
Speaker 2: Agency do?
Speaker 1: All right, we'll do that. What the missile intelligence that?
Speaker 1: Other people have asked it? Apparently? So what did it say?
Speaker 1: They're formerly known as Missile Intelligence. It's a specialized component
Speaker 1: of the US Defense Intelligence the DA. Its mission is
Speaker 1: to provide scientific and technical all source intelligence to support
Speaker 1: US military planning, operations, and weapons system development. It works
Speaker 1: focused on surface to air missiles, short range ballistic missiles,
Speaker 1: anti tank guided missiles, missile defense, directed energy weapons. They
Speaker 1: miss the is there it is? Directed energy weapons exist,
Speaker 1: and then they'll tell you when you say they killed
Speaker 1: them by directed enerry, but they'll tell you, oh, that
Speaker 1: doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: There you go, That's exactly what I was looking for.
Speaker 2: You just hit it. There you go, corrected weapons. That's
Speaker 2: one that's not trying to hide. You just got to
Speaker 2: know the name of it, and a lot of them
Speaker 2: aren't really trying to hide. You just got to know
Speaker 2: the acronym and the name of them. And then you
Speaker 2: can type it in. If you just typed in, you know,
Speaker 2: give me all of the three letter organizations, then it's
Speaker 2: just going to give you the main ones, right, they
Speaker 2: give me all the militaries. It's just going to give
Speaker 2: you the main militaries. But there's several other militaries that
Speaker 2: are in operation. We just don't know about them. There's
Speaker 2: several other three letter organizations out there running doing different operations.
Speaker 2: We just don't know what they're called and exactly who
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 1: So we essentially become the ultimate fascist machine. I mean there,
Speaker 1: and the way they're doing it is so much more
Speaker 1: sneakier than any thing that Adolf Hitler did. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's sneaking. Nobody even knows it's there. It's like a
Speaker 1: parasite that's invading and you don't know it's in your body.
Speaker 2: The black budget, zero congressional oversight, you know type stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean some of it, and a lot of it
Speaker 2: is like I said, is opening is operating in front
Speaker 2: of everyone's faces. They just don't know what it is
Speaker 2: in order to look it up. So, you know, the
Speaker 2: CIA takes the heat in the fall for a lot
Speaker 2: of things, and so does the FBI, which they much
Speaker 2: reasonably deserve a lot of the hate, but it's spread
Speaker 2: out between a lot of organizations that do not make
Speaker 2: the headlines and the ones that we have no idea about.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to ask you this question. Then I
Speaker 1: kind of want to ease into the Charlie Kirk stuff
Speaker 1: because obviously we discussed that it's deeply connected. But you
Speaker 1: had a lot of compelling interviews and witnesses in your documentary.
Speaker 1: What was the most compelling interview or guest for you
Speaker 1: to interview, Like, what was the best interview you had
Speaker 1: that made you go, like your hair stand up on
Speaker 1: the back of your neck, like from their testimony.
Speaker 2: Oooh, that's a rough one. We have several people in it.
Speaker 2: We have I'm in it, Dell Graph, Lim Buchanan, Angela Ford,
Speaker 2: Walter Bosley, Katie Page, and Jay Widner. And I don't
Speaker 2: think that it was anybody singularly. It was once everything
Speaker 2: came together, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It made a whole story when all.
Speaker 2: The pieces of the puzzle fit together. And that's my
Speaker 2: favorite part about making a movie is watching everything come
Speaker 2: together in real time and you're like, holy shit, this
Speaker 2: is this is it? This is this is the thing,
Speaker 2: you know? And I just had and goosebumps during the
Speaker 2: entire thing because I'm kind of like a I'm a
Speaker 2: puzzle maker. I like putting things together and inciting that
Speaker 2: emotional response out of people. That's what I've always liked
Speaker 2: about movies. I've always loved movies. I'll watch I've watched
Speaker 2: tons and tons of movies and TV shows and because
Speaker 2: it gives me that feeling, and I always want to
Speaker 2: try and replicate that the best that I can to
Speaker 2: get the viewer to have those types of chills when
Speaker 2: something comes together for them and they get that aha moment,
Speaker 2: like because it's really as the documentary explains what's going on,
Speaker 2: but you still have to really pay attention. It's almost
Speaker 2: a two hour long movie. Okay, I made it extra
Speaker 2: long because people like long things more now, you know,
Speaker 2: long form content more now. So and they were like,
Speaker 2: I wish the Clockwork Training was longer, and I was like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: I just make this thing. I does make this thing
Speaker 2: as long as I possibly can. So the first around
Speaker 2: fifty minutes of the movie is really the history of
Speaker 2: the psychic spies and how the government became interested in
Speaker 2: how all that began and how that started, and then
Speaker 2: the next hour is really focusing and nailing down on
Speaker 2: to the Gate Program stuff. And I think that what
Speaker 2: really locked everything in for me was whenever I found
Speaker 2: the proof and documentation, because this is what I had
Speaker 2: an issue with as I was making the movie, Like
Speaker 2: I had all these people's testimonies, and I had what
Speaker 2: I believed was happening, but that's kind of all that
Speaker 2: we really had. It was like speculation and uh, you know, theorizing, Yes,
Speaker 2: these people did experience this, but how do we really
Speaker 2: prove it beyond that? And it wasn't until I found
Speaker 2: an actual document that proves that they were testing children
Speaker 2: in public school for psychic abilities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and is it psychic abilities? Like we said, it's
Speaker 1: for a whole bunch of different things. You could be
Speaker 1: an asset, FBI and assassin. You could be an actor,
Speaker 1: I mean you could. It's endless. The amount of use
Speaker 1: they have for special children. They never they never got me.
Speaker 1: I think everybody has psychic abilities personally. I mean that's
Speaker 1: what I feel that. That's why I think they're drugging
Speaker 1: a lot of us now, is they want they don't
Speaker 1: want everybody to tap into that and have the ability
Speaker 1: in intuition to see things. That's why when kids don't
Speaker 1: fit into the system. I was just I watched this
Speaker 1: with Cody Blue. He's the son of Twisted Sister. He
Speaker 1: has his own podcast, and he was talking about how
Speaker 1: they dragged him and they convinced his parents it was
Speaker 1: for the best thing, and how it just destroyed his
Speaker 1: life and how he had to go do spiritual retreats
Speaker 1: and everything to help heal himself, and that he never
Speaker 1: needed the medication and all these diagnoses he felt with BS,
Speaker 1: and you know, he talked about how they based you know,
Speaker 1: how medication and all this stuff was syntheticized and just
Speaker 1: doled out under Nixon or something like that. He just
Speaker 1: went into it and how his life was so horrible
Speaker 1: and no one would listen to him, and they just
Speaker 1: kept up in his dose and downing his dose and
Speaker 1: it made it life worse. And I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: kids never needed this stuff before. What's going on?
Speaker 2: Well, because the one people drugged up, Because when they're
Speaker 2: drugged up, they're more easily controlled. They want things thrown
Speaker 2: in their face. Twenty four to seven. That's where the
Speaker 2: phones and the TVs and the instant gratification of getting
Speaker 2: everything delivered to your house till the point that you
Speaker 2: don't have to go out and interact with society or
Speaker 2: interact with anybody anymore. You can get your coffee delivered,
Speaker 2: your groceries delivered, you can watch movies on your TV
Speaker 2: that are currently in the theater. You don't have to
Speaker 2: go to the theater anymore. And then once you drugged
Speaker 2: up and zombie fired out. That's just the reality of it.
Speaker 2: And that came from the mk Ulture programs directly. Literally, anthetamine,
Speaker 2: which is at erall and Riddlin, it's one molecule from
Speaker 2: out or all in Riddlin was tested and developed inside
Speaker 2: of the mk Ulture programs. And then what did they do. Oh,
Speaker 2: They're like, we'll diagnose your children with this disorder and
Speaker 2: then we'll put them all on this substance that we
Speaker 2: developed out of the mk Ulture mind control programs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you notice that all these diagnoses in
Speaker 1: the criteria keeps expanding every year. Your child got into
Speaker 1: a fight, he's got ADHD, your child didn't do the
Speaker 1: homework ADHD.
Speaker 2: And it gets more vague with you know, if your
Speaker 2: child doesn't display signs of ADHD. Then that's actually displaying
Speaker 2: signs of ADHD. They're doing it like uh, you know
Speaker 2: they did with COVID. That's exactly what they did with COVID.
Speaker 2: They were like, if you don't have any signs of
Speaker 2: h if you don't have any symptoms of COVID, then
Speaker 2: that is a symptom of COVID.
Speaker 1: Like, what's like that COVID. Yeah, well it's it's all.
Speaker 1: I remember my son was struggling in university and they
Speaker 1: tried they tried to suggest that I drag him in
Speaker 1: elementary school and you know who flipped them the bird
Speaker 1: and told the teacher off me. And then when he
Speaker 1: was in university, I was up. I was here, he's adult.
Speaker 1: I was here in the United States, and his dad's
Speaker 1: girlfriend was trying to tell him, Oh, you're just have anxiety,
Speaker 1: that that's why you're not performing or doing this stuff.
Speaker 1: And you're struggling and trying to get him to take
Speaker 1: these kind of anxiety meds that are like meth and
Speaker 1: I tore a strip. I told him, don't you dare
Speaker 1: touch those. I said, you don't have anxiety, you don't
Speaker 1: have ADHD, You're just maybe not interested in what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You're following your friends trying to do these programs in
Speaker 1: the university that they want, and maybe you're just not
Speaker 1: good at it and you don't like it. You're young,
Speaker 1: you can choose something else. You've got lots of options.
Speaker 1: And I got my mom to call. My mom called
Speaker 1: him and said the same thing, and he didn't take
Speaker 1: them to thank goodness. But I was like, I've fought
Speaker 1: my butt all your life not to have these teachers
Speaker 1: get you on these meds, and I've stood up to them.
Speaker 1: You are not going to take it from this girlfriend.
Speaker 1: His dad left the girlfriend anyways, now, So I was
Speaker 1: just like, this girlfriend is not going to convince you
Speaker 1: to get on meds that are like math. That is
Speaker 1: absolutely not happening. And he fortunately listened to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the messes with your brain message with your
Speaker 2: brain system. I mean, that's the whole that's the goal
Speaker 2: is to you know, get people on some form of medication.
Speaker 2: And I did a statistic. I looked up a statistic
Speaker 2: back I don't know, three or four years ago now,
Speaker 2: basically when I first started doing my show, and I
Speaker 2: think it was a statistic from twenty and fifteen that
Speaker 2: said forty nine percent of the population of the United
Speaker 2: States population. This was twenty fifteen, This is ten years
Speaker 2: ago now was on at least one pharmaceutical prescription drug.
Speaker 1: You know how I learned and I was suspicious about
Speaker 1: this in the eighties as a young kid, like I said,
Speaker 1: I was mouthy, with pushy double ares. I always had
Speaker 1: to have my way. It was hard for people to
Speaker 1: tell me what to do. I watched my grandmother get
Speaker 1: into these then I put her on these mans in
Speaker 1: the eighties, and I watched how it changed her personality.
Speaker 1: I watched what it did, and I said to everyone,
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a scam, this is bs even
Speaker 1: when I was a teenager, said I will never be
Speaker 1: on these medications. I'm like, there's a reach. She has
Speaker 1: ptsc there's a reason she's depressed. She was having nightmare
Speaker 1: seeing crazy stuff like it just got crazy and I
Speaker 1: had to I watched it, even from like from nine
Speaker 1: years old on, and I said, I will never ever
Speaker 1: be on these things. This is bunk, this is this
Speaker 1: is bull. You know, she has trauma, but this is
Speaker 1: making it worse. And that's how I knew from the
Speaker 1: eighties that this stuff was bad, just as a kid
Speaker 1: and it's because no one in the school could control
Speaker 1: me or tell me what to do, and so I
Speaker 1: figured that's why everyone always sort of socially shunned me too. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was a bra they called me a brat, but
Speaker 1: it's just if I didn't want to do it, I
Speaker 1: wasn't going to do it.
Speaker 2: That's the way to be. That's the only way to be.
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of I don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of friends for it. And I'm now as an adult,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I used to be sad
Speaker 1: about it, but now I'm fine. I'm fine with it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not meded up, I'm not crazy, and they try
Speaker 1: to convince me i am, but I'm like, no, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking those medications. And even after I had
Speaker 1: my son postponed depression, I just got up and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the gym. I'm gonna start structuring things.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not doing medication. I don't need to do.
Speaker 1: I just had to structure things, go to the gym, workout,
Speaker 1: eat less sugar, and things started to get better.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's not happening, it's just crazy.
Speaker 1: What they're doing to her kids, and it's it's as
Speaker 1: you just said with your numbers, it's gotten worse.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I guarantee it's definitely gone up in the
Speaker 2: last ten years, especially during COVID and all the doaths
Speaker 2: just from overdoses and alcohol and drugs and the form
Speaker 2: rate you know, jump through the roof. So I guarantee
Speaker 2: it's even then you could just set in your home
Speaker 2: and get a prescription delivered to your house because you
Speaker 2: couldn't go to the doctor's office. She was a zoom call,
Speaker 2: zoom call with the doctor. I'll prescribe you. You your medication.
Speaker 1: Now it's coming out, so I want to kind of
Speaker 1: transition into Charlie Kirk. So whenever it does come out,
Speaker 1: I'll let the audience know. Just guys, go to writer
Speaker 1: Lee's channel raised by Giants if you want to keep
Speaker 1: up tabs or follow him on I think you're on
Speaker 1: Instagram and Facebook, keep tabs and like you say, keep searching.
Speaker 1: It's Amazon Prime for it. Support him by the documentary.
Speaker 1: You get two hours of amazing content. But I want
Speaker 1: to kind of ease it into how this is tied
Speaker 1: into Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson and all this crazy stuff
Speaker 1: that happened with the Charlie Kirk assassination. Because I know
Speaker 1: you've been covering it at length in reels on your channel,
Speaker 1: and you've been doing a hell of a lot of
Speaker 1: good content. Where do you want to start? What got
Speaker 1: you pulled into the Charlie Kirk case?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, where do we even start? The fact that
Speaker 2: a thirty add six cannot hit a man in the
Speaker 2: neck and not leave an exit wound. I guess that's
Speaker 2: a good start. That's the best start that you could
Speaker 2: possibly think of.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 2: It didn't make sense to me from the very beginning,
Speaker 2: from the moment that I found out did it happen?
Speaker 2: It did not make any sense. And then I just
Speaker 2: kind of took a step back from it. And I
Speaker 2: had initially and I said to my girlfriend and my
Speaker 2: close friends that had called and talked to me during
Speaker 2: that time. Once they found out about it too, they
Speaker 2: called me and I was like, there's no way this
Speaker 2: was from a rifle. If this was from a gun
Speaker 2: and it was a bullet, it had to have been
Speaker 2: up close. It had to have been somebody really up
Speaker 2: close with a handgun, right, And then then what do
Speaker 2: we find out during the preliminary trial. The guy says
Speaker 2: the agent hole I believe it was, or the other
Speaker 2: officer that was on the scene, said that they found
Speaker 2: a handgun holster at the crime scene. And then not
Speaker 2: only that, there was actually another guy that was arrested.
Speaker 2: That's right, they let him go, but not not Zin,
Speaker 2: not just George. There was a guy, yeah, Russell Kennington
Speaker 2: was his name, and he was arrested on that same day.
Speaker 2: Diligent Denisen has done amazing work on this on ACTX
Speaker 2: and uh, he had a rifle. Now, apparently the person
Speaker 2: that's claiming to be his mom contacted Diligent Denisen on
Speaker 2: AX and said that it wasn't Russell's rifle. But the
Speaker 2: policeman is clearly carrying a rifle. If you looked up
Speaker 2: the photographs of him being arrested on the scene, the
Speaker 2: policeman's carrying a rifle. So whose rifle was it? And
Speaker 2: apparently he asked, is the person that's you know, supposedly
Speaker 2: his mom, and his mom didn't have an answer, you know,
Speaker 2: so they put out all of these patsy's out there,
Speaker 2: and George then turns out that he worked for TPUSA,
Speaker 2: just like the.
Speaker 1: Year before or something like recently too, yep.
Speaker 2: The year before in Arizona going door to door and
Speaker 2: knocking to get people to try and vote for Trump.
Speaker 2: So it's this just this culmination of so many things
Speaker 2: that just does not add up in the least bit.
Speaker 2: And uh, I do think that I do believe the
Speaker 2: Candice Owens is does really good work in this regard.
Speaker 2: She's we would not know hardly anything about this if
Speaker 2: it wasn't for Candiss research.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you when I first saw it the
Speaker 1: because you know, I lived maybe half an hour of
Speaker 1: forty minutes away from where it happened, which is crazy
Speaker 1: that I would move from Canada to like, I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm in a lion stand somewhere here. But I
Speaker 1: was shocked. And when they said they were looking for
Speaker 1: this tranny killer, I was like, no, this is too
Speaker 1: much because I already saw the fake narrative that was
Speaker 1: happening with Trump in twenty twenty four. Everything felt stage
Speaker 1: and phony and everything crazy. And I was in with
Speaker 1: the mega groups online and I left them. I was like,
Speaker 1: you guys are nuts. They're wacco and it's all fake,
Speaker 1: all their share out, they have it all calculated, all
Speaker 1: those influencers. It's all calculated share outs. And I seen it.
Speaker 1: I'm like that this is weird. It's not I go,
Speaker 1: I bet you this is some kind of CIA thing.
Speaker 1: And then I saw his wife with that coffin, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my goodness, this is the most disturbing
Speaker 1: thing I've seen. And I'm like, Okay, there's something way
Speaker 1: more to this than I know. And I remember me
Speaker 1: and my husband. I said to him and I said,
Speaker 1: I bet you the Mormons had something to do with this.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about regular Mormon people because a lot
Speaker 1: of them are upset and cobeuse. I'm talking high uppers.
Speaker 1: And I'd never even heard of Erica Kirk and suddenly
Speaker 1: she's everywhere, and I'm going, there's something wrong here. There's
Speaker 1: something really wrong. And now they're having the memorial, the
Speaker 1: whole stadium's already booked and everything's I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: like COVID when everything just rolls out like a script.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm telling you, this is crazy. And that's
Speaker 1: when I became like, right away convinced that this is
Speaker 1: another sigh up from hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh, you pretty much doubt it there, And
Speaker 2: I actually came to that conclusion about the timeline of
Speaker 2: events as well, because I thought that it was really
Speaker 2: strange that he was already in the casket two days later.
Speaker 2: That's when that photo was posted of Erica Kirk next
Speaker 2: to Charlie Kirk's body. Was two days later on the
Speaker 2: twelfth September twelfth, this is the official date that it
Speaker 2: was posted, and I brought that up. That video went viral.
Speaker 2: I went viral on x I went viral on Instagram
Speaker 2: and on Facebook, and I was like, it's kind of
Speaker 2: suspicious that this happened so quick, because I thought something
Speaker 2: was wrong with it, but I didn't know the reason
Speaker 2: why something was wrong with it, and it wasn't making
Speaker 2: sense what people were saying, like, yeah, okay, it should
Speaker 2: have been a private moment. Whatever. It's kind of is
Speaker 2: what it is. And I wasn't really upset about that part.
Speaker 2: I was upset about something else that I didn't really
Speaker 2: understand at the time that I couldn't put my finger
Speaker 2: on it until I went back and looked at the dates,
Speaker 2: and then the dates showed that he was in the
Speaker 2: casket ready to be buried. He got they were putting
Speaker 2: him into a hearse two days after he had just
Speaker 2: been assassinated. So the biggest assassination, the biggest political assassination
Speaker 2: since JFK. I don't care what you say it is.
Speaker 2: And you're and he's ready to be buried, and he's
Speaker 2: been in the autopsy has been done already. You're telling
Speaker 2: me there's enough time to do a thorough autopsy for
Speaker 2: the highest profile assassination in modern times in that amount
Speaker 2: of time, and get him embombed and get him in
Speaker 2: the casket and get him ready to be buried. He's
Speaker 2: already in a hearse. But then Baron Coleman picked up
Speaker 2: on that. Then he found out that it wasn't even
Speaker 2: the pictures weren't even taken two days after that. They
Speaker 2: were just posted two days after that. They were actually
Speaker 2: taken the very.
Speaker 1: Next day in the Utah funeral home.
Speaker 2: In the Uh, Yeah, it wasn't even at in Arizona.
Speaker 1: I think there was a guy like, sorry, I can't
Speaker 1: remember your name. I think it was Dylan. He was saying,
Speaker 1: that's probably why he thinks Charlie's not dead, because the
Speaker 1: body looked weird. People were questioning the hands at the time,
Speaker 1: like what's going on, and it's the timing. It's it's
Speaker 1: just like, like I said, like COVID, they had they
Speaker 1: roll it out, all this stuff, all this news documentaries.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that was really quick. Who does documentaries
Speaker 1: that fast? Like, I'm like, this is kind of weird.
Speaker 1: I go, it's almost like central casting, Like it's something's
Speaker 1: coming from some central agency that's had this plan for
Speaker 1: a while. And when I saw that and it come
Speaker 1: out so quickly, I'm like, oh my goodness, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: And I felt it right away. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is too fast. It's something wrong here.
Speaker 2: Well. Candace had just mentioned on her last show that
Speaker 2: she had gotten reports that the the hospital that Charlie
Speaker 2: was taken to was cleared out hours in advance before
Speaker 2: he was even shot. They cleared out the entire hospital,
Speaker 2: they transferred all of the patients inside of the hospital.
Speaker 1: Like the week, weeks before, days before.
Speaker 2: Even No, it was it was that same day, but
Speaker 2: it was still hours before they that that this even happened.
Speaker 2: So someone has some ford to be like, get all
Speaker 2: these people out of here, Like, how are you going
Speaker 2: to get them all out? Within ten minutes? Ten to
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, that's how long it took for them to drive.
Speaker 1: Would it would have been getting mass coordinated.
Speaker 2: Mass coordinated. You'd had to have buses, big vans transporting
Speaker 2: all of these people out of the hospital to another hospital.
Speaker 2: It's really unbelievable.
Speaker 1: It's like when Jim Jones fled with his crew to
Speaker 1: Guyana in Jonestown. They did it in less than twenty
Speaker 1: four hours, all those like thousands of people on the airplane.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm sorry, that takes coordination. You don't just go, oh,
Speaker 1: someone's writing some articles about me. Let's go, guys, less
Speaker 1: than twenty four hours, a thousand people on flights all
Speaker 1: the way to a jungle in South Africa. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's not how things happen. That's that's some
Speaker 1: coordination with some higher powers. It just this is how
Speaker 1: they do it. And then everyone just believes the slob.
Speaker 2: That's right. The crime scene was covered up. They paved
Speaker 2: over the paved over the crime scene with pav They
Speaker 2: his shirt is gone as Mike is looks like it
Speaker 2: has been exploded at the bottom of the suv. They
Speaker 2: clean the suv. They do not put the suv into evidence.
Speaker 2: They sell the suv. Tyler's fingerprints are the most degraded
Speaker 2: on the rifle. We know this from the preliminary trial.
Speaker 2: You know, all this stuff, and it just keeps adding
Speaker 2: up and adding up and adding up. And it's like,
Speaker 2: at this point, if you believe the official narrative, then
Speaker 2: I don't know what else to tell you.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who believe it. Either that
Speaker 1: or there's a lot of bots and that the internet
Speaker 1: really is dead Internet. But there is a lot of
Speaker 1: people who believe it and are a lot of people
Speaker 1: who are getting paid to spew out the propaganda.
Speaker 2: The bomb dogs didn't find the gun. The gun didn't
Speaker 2: appear until the FBI showed up.
Speaker 1: You know, all of these footage and all the influencers
Speaker 1: lying about what footage was they had, Like they had
Speaker 1: four K footage we could see Dyler Robinson and.
Speaker 2: That was the footage of the exact same footage that
Speaker 2: was shown at the end of day two of the
Speaker 2: preliminary hearing. Then they just did this massive campaign and
Speaker 2: they thought that it was that it was going to work.
Speaker 2: You know, I think that they thought that they were
Speaker 2: going to get over on everybody again. But they forgot
Speaker 2: the biggest flawed at all is that a thirty six
Speaker 2: bullet didn't leave an exit moon on a man's neck.
Speaker 2: That's the biggest I think all you got to do
Speaker 2: is go back to that simple fact and you realize
Speaker 2: that's not what happened.
Speaker 1: That And I don't think they intended for it just
Speaker 1: to happen that way. It went wrong and it looked
Speaker 1: weird even when it first happened. I'm like, what the
Speaker 1: heck was that outside of his neck?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: And I think the other biggest flaw is Erica Kirk herself.
Speaker 1: She's unlikable, she's unbelievable. Her acting is really bad. You'd
Speaker 1: have to be a retarded, evangelical, brainwashed moron to believe her, Like,
Speaker 1: you'd have to be totally non connected with your own
Speaker 1: intuition to be like, that's a good woman who loves
Speaker 1: her husband. And then the rest of the crew, there's
Speaker 1: just something about all of their behaviors and body language
Speaker 1: that says something's wrong. TPUSA was infiltrated, And I want
Speaker 1: to get to that point because we were talking about
Speaker 1: how does this tie into the Gate program? And so
Speaker 1: who really was Charlie Kirk? Did he even own TPUSA?
Speaker 1: What was going on with Charlie Kirk?
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. And Erica Kirk was involved in
Speaker 2: some form of specialized school as well, called the Tesseracs School.
Speaker 2: Very little information. Can't hardly find out anything about the woman,
Speaker 2: can't hardly find any photographs of her. It's like someone
Speaker 2: kind of attempted to erase her from history and a
Speaker 2: lot of different ways. It's really strange, really odd. She
Speaker 2: has two different birth certificates that has different dates on them.
Speaker 2: It almost seems like that she is some form of
Speaker 2: a honeypot or some form of an asset allegedly allegedly,
Speaker 2: but that's just what it looks like. And she was
Speaker 2: kind of sent in to infiltrate into TPUSA because all
Speaker 2: of these people that surrounded themselves with Charlie started to
Speaker 2: come after she got into the picture. Then she started
Speaker 2: introducing these people to be involved with Charlie, and they
Speaker 2: all just happen to be super evangelical, you know, Christian sloppers.
Speaker 2: Get up there and just you know, say a bunch
Speaker 2: of words and somebody will cheer you. No. I think
Speaker 2: that's what Erica thinks that she can do, is just
Speaker 2: get up there and say a bunch of words and
Speaker 2: everybody will be like, yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's kind of
Speaker 2: like Kamala Harris and what she was doing Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: They're trying to do that exact same tactic, and we
Speaker 2: can tell by now that it's fake, that the way
Speaker 2: that she acts is not genuine at all. And to
Speaker 2: be quite frank with you, I don't even know what
Speaker 2: their role is anymore. I don't know what TPUSA actually
Speaker 2: does anymore. They don't have anybody up there taking Charlie's spot.
Speaker 2: They don't have people going out to college campuses and
Speaker 2: debating college students. That that was pretty much all of
Speaker 2: what tp USA really was was Charlie. No one took
Speaker 2: his place, No one has bills to even come close
Speaker 2: to taking his place. When Erica gets up on stage,
Speaker 2: she has to read everything from a teleprompter. She she can't,
Speaker 2: she can't string a sentence together without reading it off
Speaker 2: of something. That's whenever she she freezes up, whenever she
Speaker 2: gets asked a hard question.
Speaker 1: The story, let anyone ask her a question, Just stop.
Speaker 2: Stop, That's all I got to say to you.
Speaker 1: The widow widow, Well, here's the the interesting thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: more trauma, people saying and incognutiss making sure we all
Speaker 1: had to see it like a sacrifice. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: really crazy. I think what they're doing if you look
Speaker 1: at where they're focusing, they're focusing on this newer division
Speaker 1: of tp USA Faith, and the irony is I don't
Speaker 1: think most of them really are religious in there, and
Speaker 1: a lot of them half of these people that were
Speaker 1: involved with Charlie in his organization weren't even Christians. There
Speaker 1: weren't Mormons. They weren't I guess Christian Mormons are a
Speaker 1: type of Christian. But I think this TPUSA Faith is
Speaker 1: running like a Mooney's cult. I think that's how they're
Speaker 1: trying to run it. And we know that the US
Speaker 1: government had a lot to do or these agencies had
Speaker 1: a lot to do with the creation of the Mooney's
Speaker 1: cult over in Korea and Japan after the war. They
Speaker 1: had a lot to do with the guy who ran
Speaker 1: it was total gangster guy, and they put him in
Speaker 1: power and they funded him. There's a lot more to
Speaker 1: it than what I'm saying here, but I think it's
Speaker 1: kind of running like a Mooney's cult, and there's going
Speaker 1: to be some people who fall for it, but hopefully,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of people in Utah that
Speaker 1: are leaving the church. For lack of better words, they're
Speaker 1: trying to expand outwards to other countries all over the place.
Speaker 1: It's it's just crazy. So I'm only assuming that they're
Speaker 1: trying to form like some giant moon he's culled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the uh. I mean, you can just see the
Speaker 2: way that they speak that they're coming from an inauthentic place.
Speaker 2: I mean, all you got to do to be a
Speaker 2: Christian thought leader is half charisma and know a little
Speaker 2: bit about the Bible, you know, and you just get
Speaker 2: up there and you just put a few things together
Speaker 2: that God is love and if love is God, and
Speaker 2: if you don't love God, then God won't show you love.
Speaker 2: But if you love God, then God will show you
Speaker 2: all the love, you know what I mean. Like they
Speaker 2: just keep going on and on about not really even
Speaker 2: saying anything.
Speaker 1: Or like, you know, it's so spiritual. When your pastor
Speaker 1: starts trashing Candice Owans trying to make you hate her,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, what's spiritual? Why do we have
Speaker 1: to talk about Candie Owans in the church. There? These
Speaker 1: are obviously attack dogs. This is propaganda And I sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: I know churches used to be very different between before
Speaker 1: World War Two, they were probably more authentic. But the
Speaker 1: government has long since infiltrated all your churches and turned
Speaker 1: them into megachurches like corporations. They're all brainwashing tools. It
Speaker 1: probably doesn't matter which one they are anymore because they're
Speaker 1: going to infiltrate all of them. So your high holy
Speaker 1: rollers and you're Tammy Faye Bakers. Sorry, they're probably all assets,
Speaker 1: you know they are.
Speaker 2: That's that's just a fact. That's just the facts of it.
Speaker 2: You know, you want to get a charismatic person in
Speaker 2: there to lead the people, to get them to donate
Speaker 2: to the church, get a tax exempt status. You you
Speaker 2: basically don't have any government oversight. You can essentially, you know,
Speaker 2: do whatever you want. And it's just it's become this
Speaker 2: this religious mafia, that's what it is. And Christianity has
Speaker 2: already has a built in fan base. And this isn't me,
Speaker 2: you know, bashing Christianity. If Christianity works for you, perfect,
Speaker 2: I got no problems with you. If you think that
Speaker 2: it betters your life, great, you're good in my book, right,
Speaker 2: but uh it you already when you're a Christian influencer,
Speaker 2: you already have a a certain section of the population
Speaker 2: that already subscribed to everything that you're going to say, yeah,
Speaker 2: and that are already always going to be there to
Speaker 2: defend you. You know, the Bible thumpers, the people that
Speaker 2: take the Bible at face value and believe everything a
Speaker 2: word that it ever says, instead of looking at it
Speaker 2: as an allegory and uh, you know, parables and stories
Speaker 2: explaining a bigger meaning or an astrological a phenomena, or
Speaker 2: you know, it has to do with the zodiac and
Speaker 2: the seasons of the year, and the death and resurrection
Speaker 2: is actually the seasons of the year that we go through.
Speaker 2: They look at it as all literal, literal.
Speaker 1: And that was decided on purpose in the Council of
Speaker 1: Nicea that would be literal. But I don't think it
Speaker 1: was ever meant as literal, you know. And I was
Speaker 1: doing a show the other day where hers talking about
Speaker 1: Jesus as a sun god and this Christian, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: this guy that was a regular just lost that just
Speaker 1: came at me in the audience and I gave him
Speaker 1: a little time out. He'll probably not be back, but
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's written all over it. It's
Speaker 1: written all over all the icons of Jesus, that he's
Speaker 1: literally a sun god. He was literally adapted by you know,
Speaker 1: paganism and the Roman Empires. It's all there. And like
Speaker 1: I say to people, and like, these these archetypes don't die.
Speaker 1: It's just when we go through these AONs, these two
Speaker 1: thousand year periods, they just transform with it. And everybody
Speaker 1: gets we're always going to have these institutions that try
Speaker 1: to take control of these archetypes and energies so they
Speaker 1: can control the people. And I was like, I know,
Speaker 1: hopefully we're coming up with Age of Quyers. Hopefully people
Speaker 1: actually really do become independent thinkers. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people who are, but I still see a
Speaker 1: lot of people who clearly just can't get with that.
Speaker 1: They just can't let go of the the sort of
Speaker 1: herd mind that makes them get on their knees and
Speaker 1: worship because.
Speaker 2: It's so because it's so ingrained into them at a
Speaker 2: young age. It's another trauma response, and then they end
Speaker 2: up reverting back to it, even though that they know
Speaker 2: inherently there's something wrong with it, because a lot of
Speaker 2: it does not make any type of sense whatsoever. And
Speaker 2: then you use the same book to constantly reference itself.
Speaker 2: You're not allowed to use any other books outside of
Speaker 2: this one book to verify that this book is real.
Speaker 2: That's not how investigations work. Could you imagine if you
Speaker 2: were doing an investigation and all you could do is
Speaker 2: reference a stack of one papers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it you. Charlie Kirk was probably gated. I'm
Speaker 1: assuming that he was chosen for something. Yes, highly intelligent,
Speaker 1: and so he plays into this with Erica Kirk and
Speaker 1: all this. It's like players on the stage.
Speaker 2: Yes, I believe that he was in a program, a
Speaker 2: gate program gives it a talented education school, and this
Speaker 2: was an entire school that was dedicated to gives it
Speaker 2: and talented children. And once they're identified either then the
Speaker 2: real high level ones are then just put into an
Speaker 2: entire school, an entire separate school. It's not just you know,
Speaker 2: specialized classes. It's it's an entire school dedicated to gives
Speaker 2: it in talented children, where all the people inside of
Speaker 2: the school have been hand picked as gives it and
Speaker 2: talented people. And then they're then spread out throughout society.
Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of like Oprah. You you get
Speaker 2: to be you get a job, everybody gets a job both. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you get to be the head of Apple, you get
Speaker 2: to Tesla, We'll give you this technology and then you'll
Speaker 2: get this. You know, there's all these front facing people
Speaker 2: that are apparently running these companies in these organizations, but
Speaker 2: they're really not. They're just the front people for that organization. Monroe,
Speaker 2: it appears Bab Monroe with the Gateway tapes, that same
Speaker 2: thing happened with him. He was given this Hemi synh
Speaker 2: technology by Andrija Poohrridge, which worked for the CIA, and
Speaker 2: then he became the front facing public version of that technology,
Speaker 2: just like how Facebook was given to Mark Zuckerberg, and
Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg is the front facing person the person that
Speaker 2: created Facebook when it was really an intelligence gathering asset
Speaker 2: social media.
Speaker 1: Site back in the nineties when Windows was first big
Speaker 1: in computers. I remember Bill Gate. Now I'm not going
Speaker 1: to quote him, obviously I'm paraphrasing, but he said something
Speaker 1: along the lines and it troubled me. Then it troubles
Speaker 1: me even more now. He said something on the line
Speaker 1: like the only the threat that we have to look
Speaker 1: out for isn't it's it's young kids in their basement
Speaker 1: or their bedrooms that are really intelligent, that know how
Speaker 1: to create new technology on their own kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Are no, are really smart and can think and compete
Speaker 1: with us. He literally said it was something like that.
Speaker 1: I can't quote him, so look it up, but he
Speaker 1: was talking about how young people, genius kids are a threat.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking back on that kind of commentary and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, wow, this is I always tell my son,
Speaker 1: stay off those Discord servers. Don't talk to anybody. You
Speaker 1: never know what if it's a fed, you don't know
Speaker 1: who you're talking to. I'm like, they scrape these places
Speaker 1: and look for people. I was like, you got And
Speaker 1: he thinks I'm nuts. I'm like, no, I'm serious. You
Speaker 1: just don't talk to anybody. I used to go and
Speaker 1: spy on his Discord servers. He didn't know. I used
Speaker 1: to go and check it all the time, make sure
Speaker 1: there wasn't someone saying something weird HMN, like hey, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's saying like not just Discord, but roadblocks and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. There's weird people out and going after
Speaker 1: young men and women. It's crazy. And Bill Gates he
Speaker 1: knew it back then. Why do he n it? Probably
Speaker 1: because they've always been looking for these people, whether they're
Speaker 1: in schools or whatever, online anywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the way that you can really tell who
Speaker 2: actually created something and they're not the front person for it,
Speaker 2: as if they died early, or they died under suspicious
Speaker 2: circumstances or something happened to them. Steve Jobs, John McAfee,
Speaker 2: like a lot of these people that seem to actually
Speaker 2: because you can't do what you're actually doing with a
Speaker 2: good conscience, right, you have to you have to be
Speaker 2: under contract by the military. Yea. I think the John
Speaker 2: McAfee thing is really insane.
Speaker 1: So I think like where we're going with this, it
Speaker 1: sounds really the fairies about Charlie, Like Charlie wasn't didn't
Speaker 1: really start TPUSA. Do you think that's a possibility that
Speaker 1: it's not really his company or never was.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a point that it becomes your donors company.
Speaker 2: And that's what he was finding out towards the end,
Speaker 2: that he didn't really run any of this, that it
Speaker 2: was his donors and if you don't toe the line
Speaker 2: of what the donors want you to do, then this
Speaker 2: is what happens. This was a was This served a
Speaker 2: lot of different purposes, but one of them was also
Speaker 2: like a warning shot, right, like, this is what happens
Speaker 2: when you try and step out a line. This is
Speaker 2: what you get. I'd said on a show around four
Speaker 2: years ago that I forget which one it was, It
Speaker 2: might have been with David Dubaian or somebody, but I
Speaker 2: said that it seemed like that we were getting back
Speaker 2: into assassination season, that that was getting ready to wrap
Speaker 2: back around. And then Charlie, Yeah, before Charlie, before Luigi
Speaker 2: McCrone or whatever his name is, macarone. My bad because.
Speaker 1: That guy who he allegedly assassinated apparently and then correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, was supposed to testify or something
Speaker 1: in a case that had to do with insurance companies,
Speaker 1: and that they think that somebody wanted to take him out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it just becomes this, uh, we've we've
Speaker 2: circled back around to the you know, kill your political
Speaker 2: opponents if you can't do anything about them, and if
Speaker 2: they've gotten too big and they don't do what you
Speaker 2: want them to do.
Speaker 1: Flame a furry the furry thing. The minute they said
Speaker 1: it was a furry, I'm like, nah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. This is this, This is total ci fed
Speaker 1: whatever it is military crap the minute they said it,
Speaker 1: and it's it's sad. So maybe Charlie I thought it
Speaker 1: was his company. I mean, I'm just his parents. There's
Speaker 1: a mystery here with his parents. I know they stopped
Speaker 1: him from being medicated, but it just seems like they
Speaker 1: are not even aware of what's really happening, and they
Speaker 1: seem to just be like thinking, we're all nuts.
Speaker 2: I would like to hear from his parents. I do
Speaker 2: want to know what his parents think. So I think
Speaker 2: that they we haven't heard anything from them. Are they
Speaker 2: still alive, do you know?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think they were at that Weren't they
Speaker 1: at the preliminary.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, I don't. I don't remember the judge.
Speaker 2: Maybe they were and the judge didn't introduce them or
Speaker 2: they or the judge could have said Charlie Kirk and family,
Speaker 2: but the only person that he formally introduced from that
Speaker 2: side was.
Speaker 1: Erica Kirk, right, well.
Speaker 2: But you could have said Charlie Kirk and family, including
Speaker 2: Erica Kirk, and I could have included them. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would really like to hear from
Speaker 2: them and what they think about all this, for sure.
Speaker 1: And the well. The other interesting thing is, according to
Speaker 1: Candace that after assassination, that Andrew Colvey guy comes on
Speaker 1: and says to her it was supposed to be you
Speaker 1: what what? And now she's saying she could have handlers?
Speaker 1: Do you think? I don't know, I don't how how
Speaker 1: is Candace as good house Candice getting away with you
Speaker 1: all this information without someone trying to do you hear it?
Speaker 2: I think they got bigger fish to fry than then.
Speaker 2: We're in the middle of a war. We're in the
Speaker 2: middle of a war right now. In public opinion has
Speaker 2: completely swayed against Trump and the Republican Party. You know,
Speaker 2: they've Trump's approval reading is abysmal from where it was
Speaker 2: when he first took office. He hasn't lived up to
Speaker 2: hardly any of his promises. He refused. He said that
Speaker 2: the Epstein files that there was nothing in them. That's something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and just I think that they have other issues because
Speaker 2: they got this thing, they got it in the bag.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's absolutely no way that. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't want to I really don't want to say it
Speaker 2: because I don't really want to see it happen. I
Speaker 2: really hope that something happens with the defense and they're
Speaker 2: able to get through some of these jury people in
Speaker 2: the trial and they have some kind of sense about them,
Speaker 2: or something happens. But it seems like that the FBI
Speaker 2: and the State is just they're just keep going and
Speaker 2: keep going and keep going, and they'll bring out more
Speaker 2: witnesses up onto the stand to verify that the person
Speaker 2: in the footage, the person in the surveillance footage is
Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson, even though that you can't prove that it's
Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson.
Speaker 1: Well, and they know that, Okay, so they know they
Speaker 1: did this experiment decades and decades ago. And if you're
Speaker 1: in a room of people, like say, I'm in a
Speaker 1: room with a bunch of jurors and I'm part of
Speaker 1: a jury and who knows it could plant jers and
Speaker 1: everybody says, yeah, that's Tyler Robinson. You will even though
Speaker 1: you're looking at that and you're going that doesn't that's
Speaker 1: just blurry, that doesn't look like Tyler Robbins, because ten
Speaker 1: other people in the jury or whatever says, yeah, it
Speaker 1: looks like Tyler Robinson. Me, you'll probably more likely say yeah,
Speaker 1: that looks like Tyler Robinson. They know this psychology.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget what the name of that study was,
Speaker 2: but it was done with a lab setting where they
Speaker 2: brought a bunch of actors in to say something. And
Speaker 2: I think they did it with lines and with like circles,
Speaker 2: and then with different shapes, and then everybody, like ten
Speaker 2: other people would say that a circle was really a square,
Speaker 2: and then all those people were actors.
Speaker 1: That simple of its thing where you're like, no, it's
Speaker 1: not what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: But you can tell when it gets to the last
Speaker 2: guy that's not an actor, that's really there and he's
Speaker 2: seen that the that the circle is really a circle
Speaker 2: and not a square. You can kind of tell that
Speaker 2: he knows that it's not a square, yeah, and that
Speaker 2: it's really a circle, but he's still says it regardless.
Speaker 2: And that's the difference between people like you know, that
Speaker 2: would do that and the people that won't. And a
Speaker 2: lot of people like to say that they would that
Speaker 2: they wouldn't go along with the hard mentality and with everybody,
Speaker 2: but percent of the time they will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's disturbing that I'm just I can't even
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like the more I watch it, I
Speaker 1: might detract more of it like I'm trying not to.
Speaker 1: I don't go on X and like I'm trying not to.
Speaker 1: I like, Okay, let's do the show because this is
Speaker 1: good because people need to know what the education system
Speaker 1: is about and what they've done and how they're medicating us.
Speaker 1: And this case is totally a fraud. But I also,
Speaker 1: if I spend too much time, I'm just like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to make it my world. Like that's why
Speaker 1: I didn't cover too much about it, because I don't
Speaker 1: want to get obsessed and make it my world either,
Speaker 1: because I feel like we're and pulled into another speculative
Speaker 1: crazy and it kind of I don't know, this could
Speaker 1: be getting a little metaphysical, but it almost feels like
Speaker 1: they depend they have to have so much of us
Speaker 1: agree with it at some level, you know, and pull
Speaker 1: our minds in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think that a lot of people have,
Speaker 2: you know, fallen victim to that as well. And there
Speaker 2: are people that will be like, oh, well, it's fake.
Speaker 2: You know, the whole thing was fake. But that's the
Speaker 2: easiest way to stop any further inquiry into the entire thing,
Speaker 2: right That stops every single question that you could possibly
Speaker 2: have about the scenario dead in its tracks. There's no
Speaker 2: conversation with anybody after they bring that up. You can't
Speaker 2: have a dialogue with somebody about something when they immediately
Speaker 2: go it's faked. It was a free Masonic staged play.
Speaker 2: Charlie wasn't even really there, he was he was, Uh,
Speaker 2: it was a three D holographic simulation.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't believe that, that's for sure. I mean
Speaker 1: that was real. That was real.
Speaker 2: But uh, that's where they're going to try and take
Speaker 2: this to the Sandy Sandy Hook level. That's what they
Speaker 2: really want, is to get this to the Sandy Hook level,
Speaker 2: like what happened with you know, Alex Jones and all that.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, the Sandy Hook was you know, blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, bah blah, And then they're trying to
Speaker 2: do that exact same thing with this and trying to
Speaker 2: They're going to try and get a lot of people
Speaker 2: caught up in this. And if you want to believe that,
Speaker 2: then the I mean, that's your belief, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. But if you if you keep going on, it's.
Speaker 1: Not that I think it's not real, it's that I
Speaker 1: think they need our upset and our emotions to kind
Speaker 1: of keep pushing it forward though what they want the
Speaker 1: outcomes and that authoritarianism. They kind of need us to
Speaker 1: be upset and angry about it. If you can look
Speaker 1: at it and be calm, it's okay. But if you're
Speaker 1: upset and angry and you're arguing online with people and
Speaker 1: you're not focused, I think they want that. There's something
Speaker 1: about I guess you could call it loose, you could
Speaker 1: go whatever want, but they want us to be upset
Speaker 1: and outraged at each other and arguing and part of
Speaker 1: the chaos that they create from these assassinations or these
Speaker 1: you know, all the politics. I mean, we've been dealing
Speaker 1: with this on crack for over ten years, since Trump
Speaker 1: came down that escalator. It's just been the craziest politics
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 2: That's really strange, And because you can get caught up
Speaker 2: in the and the whole thing and then start I mean,
Speaker 2: I recently this happened to me. I looked at the
Speaker 2: enhanced footage, and I thought that the enhanced footage wasn't
Speaker 2: the same footage that was shown in the preliminated heiring.
Speaker 2: I thought that it was a different footage because there
Speaker 2: appeared to be a highway sign that was really blown up,
Speaker 2: and there's appeared to be cars moving in the foreground
Speaker 2: of the enhanced footage that can of Zones released and
Speaker 2: I looked at it, tried to rack my brain with it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this doesn't make sense. How this is so big?
Speaker 2: And I got on Google Earth and I started looking
Speaker 2: at Google Earth and none of it lined up. The
Speaker 2: highway sign was a quarter of a mile away from
Speaker 2: the rooftop of the Loez building. So I made a
Speaker 2: video on it and it blew up. I got a
Speaker 2: lot of views. It really blew up. And the very
Speaker 2: next day someone emailed me and was like, hey, you
Speaker 2: did the setup wrong. You were looking at the Google
Speaker 2: Earth from where the individual was positioned on the roof,
Speaker 2: not from the po where the camera was on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's where I made the mistake, and I jumped the
Speaker 2: gun on it and I shouldn't have. And I made
Speaker 2: another separate video apologizing and taking responsibility for the mistake.
Speaker 1: That's good ethics. That means you you are willing to
Speaker 1: make your mistakes. We need more people like that, you know.
Speaker 2: And it felt like that I was taking a really
Speaker 2: big l but there wasn't any other way for me
Speaker 2: to do it. I had to do it so that
Speaker 2: I felt better that, you know, these people knew. And
Speaker 2: it was an honest mistake, like you know, I just
Speaker 2: did not think to look at the po V from
Speaker 2: the camera from for some reason, and it wasn't lining
Speaker 2: up with where he was on the roof, because there
Speaker 2: also appeared to be a building on the roof that
Speaker 2: wasn't there, you know what I mean. So, but it
Speaker 2: was all from the perspective of the angle of where
Speaker 2: the surveillance camera was being shot from that may everything
Speaker 2: appear bigger inside of the frame because it was enhanced
Speaker 2: and zoomed in and made the highway sign appear bigger,
Speaker 2: and it made it seem like the building that was
Speaker 2: right in front of the Loesy building was actually a
Speaker 2: building on top of the Lowesy building. So there was
Speaker 2: just a lot of confusion and a lot of It
Speaker 2: was a pretty big mistake, but I made it and
Speaker 2: put it out there, and you know, that's all that's
Speaker 2: all that I can do.
Speaker 1: I've done an interesting comment. I'll take some comments and
Speaker 1: then we'll kind of tie up all the stuff of
Speaker 1: the charter. Kirk in the gate where you can get it.
Speaker 1: But member Terra says Candy Hook, Candice's own's dead was
Speaker 1: involved in s h I actually had heard that before.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard that? That's bizarre.
Speaker 2: I I've heard a little bit about that, but I'm
Speaker 2: not I have to look into it more. I really
Speaker 2: don't know too much about.
Speaker 1: It, it says, what does it say? Quickly? I mean,
Speaker 1: there is no credit lens connecting can of sone's father
Speaker 1: to Sandy shooting. He wasn't connected to the shooting.
Speaker 2: That's not.
Speaker 1: He was in security or maintenance in Sandy Hook, that's
Speaker 1: what they're saying. These claims are speculative. They can't verify it.
Speaker 1: But some people are saying that he was in some
Speaker 1: kind of security at the school or something. So can't
Speaker 1: verify that. I'm gonna go way up to the top here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: squirrel scroll scroll through his questions. I told them I'd
Speaker 1: take them. So Dylan, who was here? He's a gen Zieri,
Speaker 1: he says. Tyler Robinson didn't kill Charlie. I know everything
Speaker 1: about it. Charlie Kirk isn't dead. What do you think
Speaker 1: of that narrative?
Speaker 2: I think I mentioned it. Yeah, that that's a way
Speaker 2: to get people to stop asking questions, to shut up,
Speaker 2: to shut the conversation completely down, and then get people
Speaker 2: on the Sandy Hook narrative so that they can turn
Speaker 2: around and prosecute and then bankrupt people that's been talking.
Speaker 1: Perfect And he says, is tell everyone about Agenda twenty
Speaker 1: thirty and Project twenty twenty six. I don't know how
Speaker 1: that would mean that Charlie Kirk is alive. I don't
Speaker 1: think so either. I think they'd be more than willing
Speaker 1: to sacrifice some of their people, and they do all
Speaker 1: the time. I mean, what's his name just got arrested there,
Speaker 1: Tate brothers and like Andrew Tate's dad was a linguist
Speaker 1: for the CIA.
Speaker 2: Oh but that was fake too, Melissa, you didn't know
Speaker 2: that was it?
Speaker 1: What his arrest.
Speaker 2: Everything that happens now is fake. You haven't picked up
Speaker 2: on that right now.
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 2: Was fake immediately when it came out. Every it's fake,
Speaker 2: I swear.
Speaker 1: So. Terra says something really interesting about the Gate. He said,
Speaker 1: facts and Gate kids are having shared, reoccurring nightmares.
Speaker 2: Have you.
Speaker 1: Did anyone mention anything about shared and recurring nightmares?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's called mall worldly.
Speaker 1: Do a show on that go ahead, you can take
Speaker 1: this and take it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just, uh, this idea that people that were
Speaker 2: involved in this. But I've also heard that it's not that.
Speaker 2: It doesn't even have to be that you were through
Speaker 2: the Gate program. It can just be dreams of people
Speaker 2: that you've had dreams of for multiple years. Like some
Speaker 2: people have really weird, vivid, reoccurring dreams that is almost
Speaker 2: indistinguishable from reality that seem very real, and they have
Speaker 2: like a whole other family and a whole other group
Speaker 2: of friends in the dream world and in the nastroll world.
Speaker 2: So this is something like what male world is from
Speaker 2: my understanding of it. And people have mapped it out
Speaker 2: and they know everything inside a mall world and they
Speaker 2: go there all the time. And some of it's like
Speaker 2: a nightmarish type of reality, and sometimes it's more uplifting
Speaker 2: and fun and they're with their friends and stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's very interesting.
Speaker 1: So my husband commented, what you're saying makes sense. I
Speaker 1: believe I was engaged and then basically fast tracked into
Speaker 1: naval intelligence.
Speaker 2: There you go several people. Walter Bosley was in Gate.
Speaker 2: He's and he was Military Air Force AFOSI special investigations.
Speaker 2: Tree Hudson was in Gate. He was also worked for
Speaker 2: the DoD. So it's like a lot of these people
Speaker 2: that were involved in Gate goat pushed into the military.
Speaker 1: Terrorists. Again, I'm wondering if rider Lee has an opinion
Speaker 1: whether or not they were looking for kids they could
Speaker 1: program in addition to kids they could not program. Did
Speaker 1: they have any youth for kids they couldn't program? And
Speaker 1: I don't torture them. They didn't have any use for me,
Speaker 1: that's what you think, Like, that's what you think, Melissa,
Speaker 1: Oh no, that it could have showed up and paid
Speaker 1: for my college. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that everyone kind of serves their their role,
Speaker 2: whether you know it or not. If you were involved
Speaker 2: in these types of programs and you could maybe not
Speaker 2: remember anything, but you're still serving a purpose in some
Speaker 2: fashion and you might not even know. You can think
Speaker 2: about it as like just creating a bunch of sleeper agents.
Speaker 1: Right. We got away with a lot when I was
Speaker 1: in school compared to what you ever get away with today.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it was crazy in the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 1: Like there was none of this stuff tracking and phones,
Speaker 1: Oppositional defiance disorder. Yeah, that's probably what they thought I
Speaker 1: have the prozec nation. I was never on anything though.
Speaker 1: I think some as I got older, I just sort
Speaker 1: of like stopped and I just kind of went into
Speaker 1: myself and just said, do you know what, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to participate in this. This is all crazy.
Speaker 1: Someone said, oh, the idea of the gifted and talented
Speaker 1: kids are now targeted individuals, you know, people who are
Speaker 1: targeted in corporations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it is possible. I mean, they
Speaker 2: do have technology to do something like that. But I
Speaker 2: don't know if everybody that claims that they're they are
Speaker 2: targeted individual are actually targeted individuals.
Speaker 1: Right. Well, I remember the guy who was exposing the
Speaker 1: stuff was it on the tobacco industry and the stuff
Speaker 1: that he went through, like they like try to like
Speaker 1: torture his family and everything. It's why I'm always like, Okay,
Speaker 1: why would Candice be why would they why was she
Speaker 1: supposed to be the one, and why would he say?
Speaker 1: Why would Andrew Covid be that stupid to say that
Speaker 1: to her? It's kind of revealing something or is it
Speaker 1: some kind of thing they want planet in her head?
Speaker 2: Narcissistic, some kind of psychological psychological manipulation. But I think
Speaker 2: the way that she's able to do it is that
Speaker 2: she doesn't have people that don't support her backing her,
Speaker 2: like all of her sponsors and all the people that
Speaker 2: support her really support her and everything that she says.
Speaker 2: That's how she's able to do it. And you can
Speaker 2: tell the difference not just based on somebody's family member
Speaker 2: or their husband or who their dad was. It's when
Speaker 2: they're speaking. Do you believe what they're saying? Do you
Speaker 2: believe that they're an honest individual? What is the feeling
Speaker 2: that you get when you listen to them speak. Does
Speaker 2: it feel like that they are telling the truth? That's
Speaker 2: the most important thing. Doesn't matter who someone's dad is,
Speaker 2: who their brother is, who their family member is, what
Speaker 2: their family member did in the past, or whatever. It's
Speaker 2: how you feel when you listen to them and the
Speaker 2: words that comes out of their mouth doesn't seem authentic.
Speaker 2: And that's how you can literally judge off of everybody.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess it depends because there's some people who
Speaker 1: think Eric or Kirk feels authentic and I think they're crazy.
Speaker 1: But they could kind of counteract with that because there's
Speaker 1: nothing authentic about her. I mean every speech she's done,
Speaker 1: especially the one with the baseball cap. I mean, it
Speaker 1: just gets weirder and weirder. It's just not how a
Speaker 1: wife who is grieving would behave. And I don't care
Speaker 1: about your Everyone grieves differently. They don't grieve that differently.
Speaker 1: Nobody grieves like that. Sorry, not a real authentic person.
Speaker 1: But some people seem to think that she's authentic.
Speaker 2: So I don't know who. I don't know. I haven't
Speaker 2: saying anybody that thinks that so far, you know.
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to ask you one other
Speaker 1: thing about the gay program, because they're saying kids that
Speaker 1: they couldn't target for program. Tara's kind of bringing that up.
Speaker 1: But there's some people who were targeted, who were in
Speaker 1: the manipulated. They went through MK Ultra, and when the
Speaker 1: person that did this stuff to them died, it was
Speaker 1: kind of a release. Have you heard that that sometimes
Speaker 1: you could kind of go out and start talking about
Speaker 1: it after your whatever handler is gone or something they die,
Speaker 1: that it's not as powerful in your mind that something happens.
Speaker 1: Have you heard anyone say stuff like that?
Speaker 2: No, I've never heard that before, but I think I.
Speaker 1: Said that Kathy Lady say something like that. My husband's
Speaker 1: in the audience. I think she said something like her
Speaker 1: captor whatever died and that helped her, you know, be
Speaker 1: able to reprogram normal or something like that. It's is
Speaker 1: bizarre because there's a tie between you and the handler.
Speaker 1: There's like there's an emotional tie between you and some
Speaker 1: of the people, and it's like if somebody in your
Speaker 1: family dies and then you're able to finally move on
Speaker 1: or do therapy or do things that you never were
Speaker 1: before because that person's gone. I guess, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: had a bad relationship with your mother. Who knows. I
Speaker 1: guess it's that concept.
Speaker 2: I mean, I could be I don't know. I haven't
Speaker 2: really I've never heard that before. I'll have to check
Speaker 2: out that that interview.
Speaker 1: Yeah I would, Yeah, I know. She was just on
Speaker 1: with Roseanne on Chris's show. I have to go check
Speaker 1: that out. Still interesting interesting stuff. Me. My husband kind
Speaker 1: of think Roseanne might be m caultre and we're not sure.
Speaker 1: We're not sure.
Speaker 2: She'll definitely get up there and say anything that she's
Speaker 2: ever heard before.
Speaker 1: She's just like she's just like the Muslim Brotherhood runs Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, come on, Roseanne. When I heard that,
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think that they do. But
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say anymore on who runs hit
Speaker 1: because I don't want to get some trouble. So is
Speaker 1: there anything else like that we forgot to cover that's
Speaker 1: really important about the Charlie Kirk case, the end the gate,
Speaker 1: stuff that you kind of want to get across and
Speaker 1: then let people know where to find you.
Speaker 2: Well, when my documentary comes out on Amazon Prime, please
Speaker 2: give it a rent or a buye on there. It
Speaker 2: should be within next week. I've got my fingers crossed
Speaker 2: for the next week. At some point. We don't know
Speaker 2: when it's going to be exactly. We've been waiting a while.
Speaker 2: I've been heavily promoting it for a long time. So
Speaker 2: hopefully it'll get a really big release.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 2: Just mark out your day, mark out your evening when
Speaker 2: it releases, because you're going to have to sit down
Speaker 2: and really watch it and really dive in because it's
Speaker 2: a lot of information. If you thought that this was
Speaker 2: a lot of information, it's even it's way more than this,
Speaker 2: and it's crammed in to around two hours worth of runtime.
Speaker 2: So you did your pin pad, your notes, on your
Speaker 2: phone out and start taking notes because it's really consolidated
Speaker 2: and it moves really fast. The information is coming at
Speaker 2: you a supersonic speed, you know.
Speaker 1: And I didn't That's why I didn't ask too much
Speaker 1: questions because I didn't want to rebuilt too much because
Speaker 1: I want people to go see it, but to finish up.
Speaker 1: Did anyone ever say anything about what you can do
Speaker 1: to protect your children or what to be aware of?
Speaker 1: Like is there any way or are we just stuck
Speaker 1: in the system and it's soll Does anyone tell you
Speaker 1: any any solutions to these problems or is it just
Speaker 1: nihilistic doom?
Speaker 2: Don't put your kids in public school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my husband says about Kathy saying that. She says,
Speaker 1: I don't think she meant it like a spell is broken,
Speaker 1: more like it's easier to break the program if you're
Speaker 1: removed from your program. Er it makes total sense. Real
Speaker 1: bad rose amn bar is awesome. She No, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to get into that. You're allowed to love rose
Speaker 1: amn bar if you want to. She just kind of
Speaker 1: doesn't say a lot of things that are factual sometimes,
Speaker 1: and that's that.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, don't put your kids in school if your
Speaker 1: kids are in school and the teachers start approaching you
Speaker 1: and they start trying to get you to drug them.
Speaker 1: You need to know that. That's bs like you need
Speaker 1: to take charge of your child's welfare.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would try and get involved as much as
Speaker 2: I could inside of the public school. I would try
Speaker 2: and know what is going on a majority of the time.
Speaker 2: But that's another part. That's another layer to all this
Speaker 2: is that they don't want you to know. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean. They want to be able to do
Speaker 2: whatever they want with their children. They want to put
Speaker 2: them on hormones, they want to put them on drugs
Speaker 2: without the parents consent. They don't want to let the
Speaker 2: parents sign for anything to do whatever they want with
Speaker 2: the child. You know, your child is essentially a product
Speaker 2: of the state out of eight hours a day, five
Speaker 2: days a week. Okay, that's what it is. And so
Speaker 2: the best way to do it is just to be
Speaker 2: involved in try and figure out what is going on.
Speaker 2: But most people they just don't have the time. You know,
Speaker 2: they're working nine to five jobs. They the school bus,
Speaker 2: or they pick them up from school, they take them
Speaker 2: to get something to eat, or they make something eating
Speaker 2: and by the time all of that's done, they're getting
Speaker 2: them ready, their homework is done, and then it's time
Speaker 2: for you know, doing whatever. They're taking a shower and
Speaker 2: then getting ready for back and then it's the next
Speaker 2: day and you do the same thing over with it.
Speaker 2: So then by the time it comes to the weekend,
Speaker 2: you don't really want it. You want to have fun,
Speaker 2: and that's not the time for serious conversations or serious
Speaker 2: talks then either. So it's just becreates this revolving door
Speaker 2: of not really understanding everything that's going on. But if
Speaker 2: you want to one hundred percent be sure that you're
Speaker 2: going to protect your child for from anything that may
Speaker 2: happen to them like this, you just don't put them
Speaker 2: in public school. But I realize that that's a really
Speaker 2: big ask because a lot of people they can't afford.
Speaker 1: Don't have the resources.
Speaker 2: They don't and I understand that.
Speaker 1: Can you repeat the name of your documentary again someone
Speaker 1: in the audience as.
Speaker 2: It is called Psychic Agent the Gate Program, and I
Speaker 2: have DVDs available. If you would like to purchase a
Speaker 2: DVD of the movie, you can reach out to me
Speaker 2: at Raised by Giants at outlook dot com and I'll
Speaker 2: send you a copy of the movie on DVD if
Speaker 2: you're interested, but it will be available on physical media.
Speaker 2: Is coming back, guys, We've got to get back on
Speaker 2: the physical media train. It's always good to have a
Speaker 2: physical copy of everything, right. If they digitize everything, they
Speaker 2: can just wipe it and then you'll no longer have
Speaker 2: access to it, and you just paid that money for it.
Speaker 2: So definitely do purchase it whenever it comes out on streaming,
Speaker 2: which it will be on Amazon Prime. But if you
Speaker 2: would like to see it early, email me and say
Speaker 2: that you saw me on and that you would like
Speaker 2: to purchase a copy of Psychic Agent the Gate Program DVD.
Speaker 1: All right, well, I think that's a good show. I
Speaker 1: know you're tired. I'm tired to you. I want to
Speaker 1: get on because we work your butts off all the
Speaker 1: time and we have live So I really thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on the show, Writer, and you're always welcome back.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: Go follow Writer's YouTube channel and go look at all
Speaker 1: his reels and his videos on this stuff. Very fascinating coverage,
Speaker 1: and get that DVD physically or you'll have to wait
Speaker 1: for Prime. Thank you so much. Writer. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: end the stream here.