WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:43.799 H Yeah. 2 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:46.920 Can somebody give me an amen for this pedal? 3 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:49.600 Anybody in the Gamian. 4 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:51.759 A man? Brother? 5 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:55.479 Yeah, I want no one. Doctor Tim mounts. He don't 6 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:59.759 been enough churches. Man. He's from nother Mississippi. 7 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:05.480 Right Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night, Tan revivals, Bible school, 8 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:06.680 Bible drills. 9 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:12.959 Oh, doctor Tim, one of my best friends is from Corinth. 10 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:15.319 Is that near you or no? 11 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:19.400 No, it's near ish. Corinth is very north Mississippi, near 12 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:22.280 the Tennessee line. And I grew up in a small 13 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:25.799 county called Ponta, Mississippi. And that's an Indian word means 14 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:28.959 land of hanging grapes. And that's right between two blow 15 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:32.640 birthplace of the King and Oxford, where I went to school, 16 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:33.719 old miss. 17 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:35.879 And when he says the King, hopefully everybody knows that 18 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:36.920 means Elvis Presley. 19 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:41.000 So it's like, oh, dude, I think I'm talking about Jesus. 20 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:46.439 All right, let's introduce the panel right here. The voice 21 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:49.480 you were seeing down below me with wearing the muscle shirt, 22 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:53.400 much to the delight of many of the Cabby's, is 23 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:58.000 the host of all things unexplained, none other than doctor 24 00:01:58.519 --> 00:01:59.840 Tim Mouth. 25 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:04.840 Yeah, thank you, thank you. For having me, Thank you 26 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:05.599 very much. 27 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:11.120 He went there. 28 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:14.800 Since they were talking about the King. 29 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:18.639 Absolutely absolutely, I didn't know about that whole thing about 30 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:22.400 the Elvis impersonators and all the drama between them and 31 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:24.680 the Feds and everything else. I didn't realize. 32 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:27.919 About that story. Yeah, yes, wild story. I know some 33 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:29.240 of those people in there too. 34 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:31.520 And why am I not surprised? 35 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:36.120 Yeah, I mean it's a small town, small world, holy cow. 36 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:38.719 Uh yeah, well, we're gonna have to have a cover 37 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:42.120 that on another show. Next to me is one of 38 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:47.280 our newest Cabby moderators. I think she's the second to newest. 39 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:52.599 She's amazing. She is a genuine but equa from New York. 40 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:58.039 Uh and she is just a brilliant person whom we 41 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:02.879 rely on to kind of that context in almost any situation. 42 00:03:03.080 --> 00:03:06.240 So we're very, very fortunate to have her as a 43 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:09.360 member of calling all beings family, put them together for 44 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:12.240 miss Ruthie problems. 45 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:20.840 Thank you, thank you, Hello everyone, Hello, welcome. 46 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:27.240 Next to Ruthie is her body equa sister h She 47 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:31.159 comes to us from Puerto Rico to Texas to Oklahoma, 48 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:34.520 where apparently she's got a lot of chickens and animals 49 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:37.280 to look after. And a farm put them together for 50 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:42.879 Akashi christ Oh, I'm. 51 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:48.560 So happy to be here. If I looked panicked at 52 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:52.080 the beginning as you guys were talking, it was hilarious. 53 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:56.599 I had three sessions of DJ going amen, and I 54 00:03:56.639 --> 00:04:00.360 was trying to find like all my DJ windows and 55 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:02.080 it's like Amen, Amen, Amen. 56 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:07.759 I'm like, oh my god, that's overwhelming, so many amens. 57 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:11.599 Feels so religious and thank you for having me tonight. 58 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:12.919 I'm so happy to be here. 59 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:15.680 Yeah. In fact, you are part of keV, so you're 60 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:18.360 kind of automatically part of it. But the fact that 61 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:22.319 you love conspiracies made you a shoe in for this episode. 62 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:23.399 You had to be here. 63 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:27.920 I'm sorry. My sister's not here tonight, so she had 64 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:30.480 to Tapi was supposed to be here tonight and she's 65 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:32.439 not able to join us tonight because she's been in 66 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:36.040 the hospital all week. But she loves conspiracies as well, 67 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:38.000 so you're gonna have to have her back for that. 68 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:43.000 Yeah, she sent me some messages today. She sounds exhausted, 69 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:46.720 but Wanta said, you know her looking after a friend 70 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:51.120 in need when there's emergencies going on. That is That's 71 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:53.480 all you need to know. Nothing else matters. The show 72 00:04:53.480 --> 00:05:01.279 doesn't matter. She's doing yes up above a Kashi is believe. 73 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:04.560 It or not, somebody who also has a conspiracy she 74 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:05.680 bet to bring out. 75 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:09.279 Tonight, CAB co hosts Boston. 76 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:13.879 Be Day, Bust and Bay Yeah in the house. 77 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:21.399 Hi everyone, have you said an hour and half with 78 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:21.959 you guys? 79 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:25.839 Yeah, they didn't expect you to have a conspiracy, but 80 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:27.680 you never know what's gonna happen on CAB. 81 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:28.199 So. 82 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:30.600 Never know. 83 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:36.879 Ye, I'm explained exactly one of the original get you 84 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:39.480 know what? We need to play that clip from Steve 85 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:42.600 for Doctor Tim Mounts tonight. I believe he's heard it, 86 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:45.079 but maybe later on. Remember the clip we listened to 87 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.439 last week, there was two and there was one that 88 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:49.920 kind of blew us all away. Maybe later on the show, 89 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:52.600 we'll we'll try to get a reaction from Doctor Tim 90 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:57.519 Mounts and Debs since the rest of us have heard it. Anyway, Uh, 91 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.920 This next young lady to be is right is an 92 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:05.160 original gangster of calling all beings. She has been here 93 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:07.879 since we started in twenty twenty one. And by the way, 94 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:11.879 don't miss it. Late August, either the twenty second or 95 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:16.000 twenty ninth will be celebrating the fifth anniversary of CAB. 96 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:19.079 I expect every Cabby will be there and there will 97 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:23.839 be some special guests. Party people put them together for 98 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:31.480 a study of UAPs DASO. There it goes. 99 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:37.600 Yes, I guess the girls outring the guy. 100 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:42.560 We were talking about that today, whether it's true crime, 101 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:46.560 whether it's UFOs, the girls out number the guys. I mean, 102 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:51.399 you girls are leading the way, whether it's the phenomenon whatever, 103 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:54.199 you girls are leading the way and you know having 104 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:57.199 your voice heard. So we need to just be there 105 00:06:57.360 --> 00:07:00.720 and speak with you. So thank you, lady for leading 106 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:02.399 the way as you have. 107 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:03.519 We have a lot to say. 108 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:05.680 You do you do ye? 109 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:10.839 Lots lots a lot of to say. 110 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:12.480 I think he's here. 111 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:19.240 Many sassy. 112 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:21.800 All right and and uh, Ruthie's probably spoke with him 113 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:23.439 this week, so yeah, we need to get with him 114 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:27.639 as well. All right, let's kick it off. Who wants 115 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:32.600 to start off? Because it doesn't matter to me. You're plenty, 116 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:36.040 You're plenty, Ruthie. Well, we got to start somewhere in 117 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:39.040 the screen that makes sense, not I. You want to 118 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:41.519 start with Debs. Debs, you want to kick it off? 119 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:46.720 I don't know where Debs is actually. 120 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:49.639 Earlier saying something, and I was just messaging, did you 121 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:50.279 guys hear me? 122 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:53.800 No, we didn't you. No, it could be because you 123 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:54.439 were on mute. 124 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:58.399 Oh no, I went on mute after I tried to 125 00:07:58.439 --> 00:07:59.959 say something. I was saying that I need to make 126 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:01.600 an original gangster sign. 127 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:04.399 You do, Yeah, you need some. We need some sort 128 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:07.319 of cab Gan sign that's you know, west coast or 129 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:08.959 East coast or yeah, you know. 130 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:12.600 So that like home when the men in black are 131 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:16.879 after us, we can stick to each other something like that, 132 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:20.839 you know. Okay, So I guess the biggest conspiracy that 133 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:24.959 I'm seeing that is confounding to me right now is 134 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:29.680 the response actually to the UFO dumps that are happening, 135 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:32.879 all the documents and the videos. So this is an 136 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:38.159 ongoing conspiracy in the UFO community. People think it's a signop. 137 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:40.639 So I think that that is what I want to 138 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:44.879 bring to the table first. So there's there's this conflict 139 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:48.639 that I'm seeing. Some people are like, oh, the US 140 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.600 government knows everything and they're not telling us anything yet. 141 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:55.000 And then there's the other side that's like, they don't 142 00:08:55.000 --> 00:09:00.320 know anything. So that's the conventionrum I wanted to up. 143 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:02.960 Oh it looks like we might have a new book 144 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:04.720 from Doctor Mounts. We're gonna have to get to that 145 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:09.600 later on. Okay, So the way this is going to go, 146 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:12.480 just from the way we're set up on screen, is 147 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:16.080 Boston bea Akashi, Ruthie and Doctor Mounts and then and 148 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:18.879 then I might have something from the Peanut Gallery. So 149 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:21.279 Boston bea what's your reaction to that? Is this? 150 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:22.000 Uh? 151 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.639 I guess the crux? Is this a siop? And then 152 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:28.039 also it sounds like you want to know deb's do 153 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:31.399 you believe they know everything or they don't know anything? 154 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:34.200 And the truth probably lies in the middle, But go ahead, 155 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:35.000 Boston bea. 156 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:39.879 In my humble opinion, I think how quickly we got 157 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:44.840 the information as far as it was alluded to. Then 158 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:48.840 things started dropping that this was part of a bigger plan. 159 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:51.559 And I believe I don't think. 160 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:54.200 They know everything, but I think they have had enough 161 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:57.840 time to study what it is that they know, to 162 00:09:57.960 --> 00:09:58.960 study UAPs. 163 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:00.480 I'm sorry, dips. 164 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:06.679 Sorry, So yeah, so that's where our stance is. 165 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:16.480 Yeah, sorry, all right, there we go a little. All right, Akashi, Uh, 166 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:20.240 what is your stance on on what depths presented? 167 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:23.480 Is their syp involved? They do they know everything? Do 168 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:25.600 they not know anything? Where are you at? 169 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:30.399 Well? I believe that even Burchette and Annapoleon and Luna 170 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:33.399 have mentioned that they have seen stuff that's like ten 171 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:36.360 thousand times better than what has been released so far, 172 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:40.679 based on how they have released information in the past 173 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:43.960 and the fact that it did it did happen so quickly. 174 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:46.840 I mean, of course fifty years in the making, but 175 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:49.960 that it did happen so quickly. It feels like this 176 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:54.440 is files Light by their own admission. So is it 177 00:10:54.480 --> 00:11:01.679 a psia? It's it's dangling a carrot, you know, It's like, 178 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:06.480 are they gonna like when chet the carrot? Or what 179 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:08.639 are they going to do with this? Because it's all 180 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:13.200 about testing. It's all about testing particular people and how 181 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:15.879 they're going to react to things before they go all out. 182 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.399 So I think, you know, this is files Light in 183 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:24.919 my opinion, not necessarily a psion, but controlled, very very 184 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:27.320 controlled message my. 185 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:31.559 Opinion, fair, fair, no, no? Could? Does someone want to 186 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:33.600 say somebody's name that's in the middle of the screen 187 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:34.919 next to you, Akashi. 188 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:38.799 Love List? What do you think? 189 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:47.759 Hi? Okay? So I have two opinions or two conspiracies 190 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:51.639 or however you want to put it. One is they're 191 00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:56.240 trying to hide something from us, the Epstein List, the 192 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:00.000 Epstein files, and putting all these stuff out for us 193 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:04.399 to forget about what's actually going on, and giving us, 194 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:08.200 like she said, like miss Akashi, like a care of dangling, 195 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:10.440 like here, take a take, and then they pull it away, 196 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:14.200 little things that we probably already seen on the internet. 197 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:19.080 And you know they want to now say that you 198 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:22.000 know it's real, guys, Okay, we've been know it. But 199 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:28.480 also there's the blue beam where they want to pretend 200 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:32.480 that this evasion is happening with aliens and all this, 201 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:36.080 and that in reality it's not real and it's manufactured. 202 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:39.679 So the way all this stuff is coming in, I 203 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.600 want to see a real freaking alien shaking the hands 204 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:47.120 of the president. If I don't see that, then what 205 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:49.919 are you guys telling me? I already know this. You know. 206 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:54.600 She can't tell you what man girlfriend drives are hard bargain. 207 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:57.080 The only one thing I want to say about Daniel, 208 00:12:57.120 --> 00:12:59.840 you know, the only thing I want to say about dangling. 209 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:03.519 Artice is good for the eye side, right, doctor Tim? 210 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:04.960 Oh yeah, Carrot's a real good for. 211 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:09.519 Us, Doctor Tim Mounts, The host of all things unexplained 212 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:12.600 that he does with his co host CJ and Smitty. 213 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:15.919 They are three really smart people. Every one of them 214 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:18.679 is taught school and you can tell clearly I wasn't 215 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:23.200 one of their students, or I'd be smarter. Tim, What 216 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:26.080 do you think about that as far as is there 217 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:29.159 a sy op going on? And do they know everything? 218 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:32.399 Do they know nothing? Wear you out on the continuum? 219 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:35.080 Well, look, first of all, we should never expect anything 220 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:37.000 from the government. That's just the way it is. And 221 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:40.919 there's no doubt in my mind that these are UFO files, 222 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:44.399 and there's there is some intriguing stuff in there, mostly 223 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:48.240 the historical stuff. But there's no doubt in my mind 224 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:52.039 that there is somewhere between disinformation and cyops going on 225 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:55.759 within these files and what we are seeing. I mean, 226 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:59.519 just look at the new involvement of doctor phel I mean, 227 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:02.080 believe it or not that actually had I mean he 228 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:08.320 got the last files early. His involvement actually has some 229 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:13.559 people very concerned, concerned that because he is a voice 230 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:17.919 of reason, a voice of trust for a lot of people, 231 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:22.120 and that his involvement is a sign a signal of 232 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:29.279 some sort of catastrophic potentially catastrophic disclosure that is imminent. Now, 233 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:31.919 that is what some people think. But then look at 234 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:36.000 the debacle that was aliens dot gov. Like what a farce. 235 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:42.559 It was very reminiscent of the Phoenix Lights farce where 236 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:46.039 the mayor of Phoenix went in front of everyone and 237 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:50.159 brought out this dude in an alien costume and just 238 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:53.200 made a big joke out of it. Right, Like, just 239 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:55.960 when you think they're taking it serious, they do something 240 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:59.279 like aliens dot gov. And by the way, they totally 241 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:03.879 played up, you know, the extraterrestrial UFO angle of that 242 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:09.960 in just a humiliating way. That that was horrible. But 243 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:14.519 there are some very serious things embedded in these files. 244 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:17.679 Like there's one particular incident, and I want to talk 245 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:20.720 too much. One is in the Western United States. It's 246 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:24.840 been in the first three releases, at least the FBI. 247 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:30.399 It involved orbs, involved the military helicopters chasing the orbs, 248 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:33.919 looking for them a cave or a cavern entrance. It 249 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:39.240 involved the FBI responding, And in my opinion, there's only 250 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:42.639 two ways FBI responds here, and one is espionage and 251 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:44.919 two is the FAA, and both of those could have 252 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:47.600 been in play here. Because we have public reporting of 253 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:51.080 our sensitive sites where fair space has been shut down 254 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:53.960 in Palm Dell, for example, and then in Plant forty 255 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:57.799 two they were being invaded by what they called at 256 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:00.639 the time drones. And at the exact same time, the 257 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:04.679 population in Palm Dell was literally seeing things in the 258 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:08.519 sky and reporting them that as UFOs UH. And then 259 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:11.919 we have the creation of this UAP Advisory Council with 260 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:16.480 av Lobe and by the way, their primary objective is 261 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:19.960 national security, and then a lot of people forgetting. Twenty 262 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:23.519 twenty four, we had this lawmaker Jeff Andrew. He goes 263 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:27.159 on Fox News Live and he says there is an 264 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:31.039 iranium mothership off the East coast launching drones into the 265 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:33.720 United States. He told that and he said, yes, sources 266 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:37.080 I told him that. So it's hard to know exactly 267 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:40.879 what to believe, but it's clear to see that there's 268 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:43.600 some sort of funny business going on. 269 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:48.080 I just want to respond to Steve, but before I do, 270 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:51.159 I want to welcome back this young lady had been missing. 271 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:54.639 She had things going on. She is the OG of 272 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:58.960 cab moderators, and I'd like to give a random applau 273 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:03.480 Plous are amazing mod Jules. Welcome back Jules horeat Dude 274 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:13.799 with We also welcome Sarah Shaknhara from a friend's birthday party. 275 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:17.759 And we always celebrate people taking care of their business. 276 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:20.920 The show can wait, We can wait. You go and 277 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:22.359 take care of what you got to take care of them. 278 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:25.720 We're ready to welcome you in. Relative to what Steve 279 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:28.839 Wolfe says, I will say that Kurt Russell was not 280 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:33.160 the only one flying about during the Phoenix Lights. The 281 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:36.319 Luke Air Force Base which housed at that time in 282 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:39.559 ninety seven, they had a wing of S sixteen's there 283 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:44.119 and they also launched as you would expect during Phoenix Lights. 284 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:48.680 And I have not heard and I don't know if 285 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:53.240 doctor Tim has any direct testimony or debs from those pilots, 286 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:56.519 but the crew chiefs who caught those aircraft when they 287 00:17:56.599 --> 00:18:01.720 landed did have. They have spoken to people in the 288 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:05.000 UFO community and said these guys were like white as 289 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:07.759 a sheet when they landed. Whatever they saw up there. However, 290 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.000 the size of this craft, I mean that would look 291 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:14.000 like Independence Day. As big as that craft was, it 292 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:19.559 was miles cross. So so yes, Luke Air Force Base did. 293 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:23.160 I don't want to use the word intercept because you're 294 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:26.200 not intercepting something like that, but they did go up 295 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:28.000 and have a look at at what that craft was. 296 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:33.160 Now getting to my answer, since the Peanut Gallery is 297 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:35.680 going to weigh in tonight, we're a little light and 298 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:39.920 we expected a couple more conspiracy conspirators. I guess we 299 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:44.359 could say so an answer to your question, is this 300 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:47.440 a syop and this is kind of not going to 301 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:52.240 diverge at all from what be Akashi, Ruthi and Tim said. 302 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.200 There's always some sort of a psychological operation going on 303 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:01.160 because you want to control disclosure. Otherwise it's just letting 304 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:04.119 everything out there, let everybody see everything, see what happens. 305 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:06.599 And that's never a good idea when you're in government 306 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:09.599 because you don't know what's going to happen, and you 307 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:16.240 don't want to you don't want to release information without 308 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:21.279 having a very very good idea of what the result 309 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:25.319 of that is going to be. From that standpoint, Doctor 310 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:29.240 Mountsman mentioned doctor doctor Phil one of his colleagues. Another 311 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.359 another phdo double G and you know there is There 312 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:37.319 have been PhDs in psychology and sociology that have consulted 313 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:40.759 with the White House on this topic. For decades, literally decades. 314 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:43.599 But doctor Phil happens to be a face that we 315 00:19:43.680 --> 00:19:47.680 all know and that America trusts. I think ross Caultart said, 316 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:52.920 ross Caltat said something analogous to that, And it's true 317 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:56.839 that you know, someone like doctor Phil is has you know, 318 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:01.559 decades himself on television. He's a trusted voice of America. 319 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:05.279 Obviously he has the trust of the administration, and they 320 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:14.039 elected to utilize, collaborate, synthesize with doctor Phil on some 321 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:17.839 elements of disclosure, the exact nature of which we don't know. 322 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:20.599 But I'm I'm for my part, I'm really glad about it. 323 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:23.880 As far as the second part of your question, Debs, 324 00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:28.279 they definitely don't know nothing, and they definitely don't know everything, 325 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:31.039 and I don't think that should surprise anyone on the 326 00:20:31.079 --> 00:20:34.000 panel or anyone in the audience. And now, how do 327 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:37.680 we know that when you listen to the best sources 328 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:40.960 on this topic as to what the government knows, the 329 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:44.160 best sources we have are people like Jim Semivan because 330 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:46.920 he was I don't know, head of Foreign Service Officers 331 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:51.599 for the CIA. So if he says something that he 332 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:54.519 believes it's this, take it to the bank. As far 333 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:56.880 as what the government knows, because we know that CIA 334 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:00.400 has knowledge on these programs as well as others these 335 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:04.240 that we don't even know the source or or what 336 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:07.759 agency these entities work for, Department of Energy, you know, 337 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:13.079 we don't know. But yes, certainly they know something. Definitely 338 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:15.480 they do not know nothing, And definitely they do not 339 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:18.920 know everything, because how could you possibly know everything? That 340 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:22.000 would be an absurd comment to make, because we can't 341 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:25.000 know everything when we don't even know all the intelligences 342 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:28.319 are out there and where they're from. So that's my 343 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:30.839 take on that. Please hold your applause till the. 344 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.720 End, though, DJ, could you pull something up for me? Yes, 345 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:37.519 put a screenshot there? Uh, say the hell? Yeah? So 346 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:44.519 this is literally the the image the cover sort cover 347 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:51.160 image of the UAP Advisory Council's public survey. Okay, someone 348 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:55.359 on the UAP Advisory Council. This is their artistic rendindering 349 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.880 rendering of one of the encounters in the UAP file, 350 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.720 the Western US encounter at a site. It's my belief 351 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:07.759 this happened at the Nevada test site. And you can 352 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.200 see that they he's throwing what appears to be some 353 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:14.680 sort of huge cavern or cave opening, and they have Orbs. 354 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:19.079 They're calling him Orbs in the UAP files, which I'm interesting, right, 355 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:22.559 And they're having a very close encounter with a military 356 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:26.759 helicopter and this is their understanding of what that incident 357 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:32.359 looked like at this Western US site. And I mean 358 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:36.000 that just gives you something to think about in my opinion. 359 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:38.880 Well let's go there, Tim, because we played the Jesse 360 00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:44.000 Michaels video on this show. So I mean you dabs, 361 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:46.039 I mean Akashi. I think you guys are best place 362 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:50.079 to weigh in on this more than myself or anybody 363 00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:54.319 else here. What do you guys think? What about that narrative? 364 00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:57.359 Because did Jesse Michaels interview seemed to indicate that it 365 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:00.920 was in Mexico? Am I wrong about that? Where the 366 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:04.200 fighter jets chased those helicopters that flew into the mountain 367 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:06.920 it opened up? And then am I are we talking 368 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:08.240 about the same thing here or no. 369 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:14.720 I can say that I did not see that the interview, 370 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:17.400 but I would say that this reminds me very much 371 00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:21.920 of the Foo Fighters, which is the third wave of 372 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:26.519 sightings that were reported and that occurred during World Wars. 373 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:31.000 And if so, we know Graham Randall has a lot. 374 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:31.640 Of books about that. 375 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:35.240 Yes, but this is what that looks like to me. 376 00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:37.160 These look like foo fighters. 377 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:39.960 Well, I we did cover it, so I encourage you 378 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:41.960 to tune into calling all being steps. 379 00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:47.160 Yeah, I don't remember this particular incident. 380 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:51.119 You like my laugh track? Is that good? Maybe? 381 00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:52.160 Not? All? 382 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:52.440 Right? 383 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:57.880 Tim? Your thoughts? Do you do you think is this 384 00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:01.839 the same incident that or did you the Jesse Michaels I. 385 00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:04.440 Trying to remember who's that this is not the same 386 00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:06.880 incident if the incident he was talking about was in Mexico, 387 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:11.240 because they spell it out in now three different releases 388 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:14.839 of the UFO or UFO files that this incident occurred 389 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:19.880 at a western United States site and it had FBI involvement, 390 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:26.119 which happened because again it was at a United States site. 391 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:30.920 It's my opinion that this incident represents the Nevada test site. 392 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:35.519 I think there's a slim chance it represents Plant forty 393 00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:39.839 two near Palmdale, but I think it's more likely it 394 00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:42.559 represents the Nevada test site. And they still have not 395 00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:47.039 released that that's still redacted where that exactly took place at. 396 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:49.440 Now you won't have to wonder how much does Ivy 397 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:52.160 Lobe and the rest of the UAP Advisory Council know 398 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:56.200 about that. But you know, it's that's part of what 399 00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:58.119 I can't figure out because I think they had some 400 00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:01.480 sort of prior intelligence, which is why they went to 401 00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:05.960 investigate this cave. They believed, in my opinion, that these 402 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:11.519 orbs were coming from and returning to, potentially a subterranean area. 403 00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:17.960 I even located an abandoned subterranean area near Plant forty 404 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:23.880 two that is now under security guards. They put up 405 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:28.240 a guard shack. There's an active security truck guarding the 406 00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:30.200 little road out in the middle of nowhere that leads 407 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:34.759 down to an abandoned mine near plant forty two. Now, 408 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:39.079 who utilizes that? Why did they block the public from that? Oh, 409 00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:43.400 shortly before the drone incursion started? I can't tell you. 410 00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:46.279 But something here doesn't add up. 411 00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:47.640 Tim. 412 00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:50.160 Is this one where the terrain opened up to accept 413 00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:54.000 that helicopter and those orbs or no? Or is it 414 00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:55.480 just always like this? 415 00:25:56.359 --> 00:26:00.200 Well in the file it said that they hovered the 416 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:02.799 cavern entrance for quite a while, that it was not 417 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:05.279 saved for them to land there, but they did hover 418 00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:09.480 at the cavern entrance for a while now, wow, you 419 00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:11.799 know you, And like I said, it's been in all 420 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:16.640 three the first three UFO files at some point. I 421 00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:20.400 believe that twenty twenty three was the first incident, but 422 00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:23.000 maybe I'm wrong. It could have been twenty twenty four. 423 00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:28.880 But anyway, this spurred some US intelligence official to go 424 00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:34.079 out there and investigate, and they had their own encounter, 425 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:36.680 and this is what brought in the FBI. So again, 426 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:39.079 if this was at the Nevada test site, we're not 427 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:42.200 really talking about fair space here, but we are. We 428 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:47.160 are talking about espionage, which is why, again I feel 429 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.839 like there's some disinformation out there, because there is also 430 00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:55.680 reporting by Christopher Sharp and others through sources that the 431 00:26:55.680 --> 00:27:00.799 military has been luring these things into our sative sides. Well, 432 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.319 you tell me, day Jay, in your experience, is it 433 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:08.759 really espionage? If we're lowering things into our sides, it's 434 00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:12.839 certainly not an adversary country as we think of it. 435 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:13.599 I don't believe. 436 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:17.079 Yeah, I think espionage is the wrong word only because 437 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:20.799 as Americans or as humans, we associate that with foreign 438 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.799 intelligence services and I don't I don't think that's this, 439 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:28.880 So yeah, I have to agree with you, Chris, like 440 00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:32.480 objects like this have been seen coming into Dulce, New 441 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:36.160 Mexico for years, into that piece of train in Dulce, right, 442 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:38.599 doul before bea correct me. 443 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:44.200 Let me get that right, Yeah, that on this particular one. 444 00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.680 And I don't know enough about the background on this image. 445 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:51.799 I mean, was it specifically like the three Was there 446 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:54.880 a particular reference to three or does the image just 447 00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:56.319 show you know, for. 448 00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:00.880 There at least three orbs involved in this incident. As 449 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.839 a matter of fact, at one point, one of the 450 00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:08.559 orbs appeared to release several smaller orbs that went in 451 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.440 separate directions, so a lot had. 452 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.920 So there was more than three potentially, Yes, yes, okay, yeah, 453 00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:19.480 I just I didn't know if this was I'm not 454 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.599 a fan of the whole image three seventy thing. I'm not. 455 00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:24.880 I don't like to even talk about it, but I 456 00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:27.599 always see those images where they're always showing the three 457 00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:30.200 orbs and the three orbs and going around, and it's like, 458 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:32.279 I just wanted to make sure that's not what this 459 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:33.400 was trying to depict. 460 00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.400 It's yeah, just you know, just take it as it's 461 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:41.200 an image of orbs going in a piece of train 462 00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:43.079 in a helicopter following, w what do you do? You 463 00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:44.200 have any thoughts on that? 464 00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:46.839 Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm with Debs and that 465 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:49.400 this is food fighters. You know, this just feels like 466 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:53.640 another It's just another piece piece of the puzzle. This 467 00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.039 is this has all been out there for so long, 468 00:28:57.640 --> 00:28:59.759 and if if this starts to come out and you 469 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:04.839 didn't what they didn't show this particular incident and. 470 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:06.799 Just when she's talking about food fighters, just so you know, 471 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:10.160 Dave Grohl has nothing to do with these foods fighters. 472 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:11.759 That's a totally different thing. 473 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:15.759 So okay, there's. 474 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:21.319 Exactly different. Rock back. All right, let's get everybody off 475 00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:23.599 the screen. It looks like we say. 476 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:25.119 Something DJ, yes, hold on. 477 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:30.079 So here's what I like. You notice that we are. 478 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:35.519 The the US helicopter is behind them, and it's not 479 00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.279 that they're coming after and the US is kind of 480 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:40.200 running like scared. 481 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.839 So that this kind of that image kind of gives 482 00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.240 me a sense of strength. 483 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:50.839 For our on our side that we are following, so 484 00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.240 we look like we're more in control rather than they're 485 00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:57.240 coming after us and like we're scared of something happening. 486 00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:00.480 So that actually gave me some like confidence. 487 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:03.319 I just want to say thank you. To dit dot 488 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.839 fifty five for the two uh and want to thank 489 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:13.279 law Wife twenty five JOHNA for our our ten memberships. 490 00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:16.200 Thank you very much, John, and we greatly appreciate that. Man. 491 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:21.000 You got that DJ, I got it all got it 492 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:23.680 on the Yeah. I mean the only thing I would say, 493 00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.160 I would caution everybody on the panel. And I think 494 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.920 Akashi was alluding to this is we don't know the 495 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.519 veracity of that photo compared to events. And I think 496 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.039 that's what she's getting at is sometimes they're using technology 497 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.839 to create a photo and it doesn't necessarily even represent 498 00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:45.200 the narrative or what or what actually happened, or or 499 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.240 if there is an actual photo of this from because 500 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:50.599 a lot of times aircraft like here, just to give 501 00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:53.839 you kind of like a frame of reference, you're looking 502 00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:56.920 at a you're looking at what looks to be I mean, 503 00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.680 it could be an MH sixty from the one sixtieth. 504 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.599 It could be an H eighth sixty from the Air Force. 505 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.599 But generally they fly in twos, so there'll be a wingman. 506 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:10.759 Even even my aircraft I flew, we would a lot 507 00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:14.680 of times we would fly in a pair. So especially 508 00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:16.640 if if you need more than one to get the 509 00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:19.039 mission done. So if that's the case, there could be 510 00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:21.799 a photo of Chop two, what we would call number 511 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:24.960 two in the formation, taking a photo of Chop one. 512 00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:28.200 And what Akashi's saying is this photo may not represent 513 00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:31.559 what it it actually looked like. So we got to 514 00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:33.640 be careful if you put if we. 515 00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.799 Put your thought MBS thought together, because I like where 516 00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:38.839 Bria was going with this. What does she pick up 517 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.200 on the strength? Yes, you know, she's looking at it 518 00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:44.880 from a different perspective, So she's picking up on that 519 00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.880 statement of strength. So what we're looking at it might 520 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.720 be a you know, a message of strength. We're still 521 00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:56.160 in control, guys, something a real thing might not be 522 00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.279 that might not have that sense of strength, you know, 523 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.400 But that's what they're going to show us. And that's 524 00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:04.799 exactly what be I picked up on. That's what they want. 525 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:08.240 So look at how much smaller those those orbs are 526 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:12.160 compared to the strong USQUE helicopter wearing the helicopter. 527 00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:14.759 Yeah, and. 528 00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:20.240 You know, you just got to keep in mind here though, 529 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:22.920 what this is. This is the cover art for the 530 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.519 public survey of the UAP Advisory Council, which has been 531 00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:31.720 formed to help the military it's actually a cross uh 532 00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:38.119 entity group, so FBI se a military government to help 533 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:42.519 them figure out what these things are. And so on 534 00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:46.440 the flip side of this coin, that's that's not strength 535 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.839 at all, Like that's admitting we have no idea what 536 00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:53.759 they are, where they're coming from, where they're going, back to, 537 00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:57.920 who they belong to, how to stop them. That we're 538 00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.880 literally admitting to that, and we're now asked avy Lobe 539 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:06.079 and a like a I don't know, a aighteen group 540 00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.440 of scientists to to figure out what they are. It 541 00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:13.920 reminds me I've compared this situation too, and it's not 542 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.039 a perfect analogy. I've compared it to the the group 543 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:21.680 put together at Bletchley Park world War two to attempt 544 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:25.440 to crack the Enigma code ooh. 545 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.079 Oh, any of the German comms or. 546 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:33.160 No, meaning that this is a serious military situation that 547 00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:37.759 we're having to bring in outside experts in on to 548 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:41.759 get to the bottom of it. And I think that 549 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:47.759 it's knowing that it could be of potentially equal seriousness 550 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:53.880 to the military that should, you know, really make us 551 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.319 continue to dig into these cases and try to get 552 00:33:57.359 --> 00:33:57.920 to the truth. 553 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:03.519 And you you know what, several years later you still are, 554 00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:08.000 and we still are, and you know BA has joined us, 555 00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:12.199 and it's a worthwhile endeavor. I mean, it can't really 556 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.239 get any bigger than are we alone? I think that's 557 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:19.159 been said in many interviews with people like Ross Cultar. 558 00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:24.119 Actually the first interview question with Ross Caultard and David 559 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:32.400 Grush was what And we remember he said, are we alone? 560 00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:38.199 And David said, We're definitely not alone? And this guy 561 00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:40.840 was cleared high enough to go briefit the White House. 562 00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:43.360 So you got to have pretty good reads to go 563 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.119 briefit the White House. So and we'll get to that 564 00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:49.400 maybe later on. We'll play some of the David Grush 565 00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.639 interview if we have time, because that interview. There's certain 566 00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:54.800 interviews that never get old, and that's one of them. 567 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:59.360 But let's go on to Boston Bia and her conspiracy theory, 568 00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:01.079 which doesn't include duty. 569 00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.320 It doesn't. But Ruthie didn't ask to go next, so 570 00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:11.960 I will just go ahead. I get your back, no problem. 571 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:20.039 Okay, because this one's long. So have you guys heard 572 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:28.639 about the Nicola Tesla conspiracy theory? No? All right? So yeah, 573 00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:33.000 so Nicola Tesla was all right? So how I got 574 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.639 into this was you know how all these scientists were 575 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:44.679 quote unquote, you know, dying or killing themselves. So Nicola 576 00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:53.599 Tesla apparently he was a a mad scientist too some 577 00:35:54.480 --> 00:36:03.519 and he was a very okay smart people to others. 578 00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:04.360 I'm sorry. 579 00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:15.360 So, so he was obsessed with the Great Parents of Giza, right, 580 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:21.079 So a lot of people don't know what the Pyramids 581 00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:23.800 of Giza were made to be or whatever, but in 582 00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:27.119 his mind he thought it was an energy source. 583 00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:33.400 He was very obsessed with it. So he found a 584 00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:38.519 way to harness the energy of the earth to make 585 00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:44.719 free electricity. He did this experiment I think it was 586 00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:48.880 in Colorado, and many people say that they saw lightning 587 00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:53.800 bolts falling from the sky and in his notes he 588 00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:58.320 wrote how his experiment worked and all the bolts turned 589 00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:04.199 on with free electricity. And we all know the electricity 590 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.639 is one of the biggest things that people pay for, 591 00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:19.559 so of course that's not good, right. He was targeted, 592 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:24.639 in my opinion, conspiracy theory because he found a way to. 593 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:25.239 Do a. 594 00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:33.960 Collecting energy through the environment, through the energy, and with 595 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:40.199 that he can give free electricity to everyone. He also 596 00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:45.280 was known as a mad scientist who created a death 597 00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:50.840 ray and in this conspiracy. This happened in World War 598 00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:55.000 Two where he was found dead. I believe he was 599 00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:57.239 like eighty years old. But the thing is with his 600 00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:04.199 death that within an hour of his death, American alien 601 00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:13.559 programs and secret services took all his stuff, everything, everything 602 00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:18.800 he ever, you know, put down in lettering words, all 603 00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:25.800 his experience experiments, and it disappeared a lot of them 604 00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:33.199 were missing. But now it comes to where his findings 605 00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:38.559 connect to HARP, which is a supposedly quote unquote again 606 00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:45.960 quote unquote conspiracy theory. HARP is a company or whatever 607 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:50.800 you want to call it that can affect the the weather. 608 00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:57.719 And again with the death ray, there's a lot of 609 00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:02.599 people that talk about seeing electric rays coming down to 610 00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:06.639 start fires and all that. That's a whole different thing. 611 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:12.920 So after his death, they took all his files and 612 00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:17.679 many things they did not understand, but many things they did. 613 00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:23.440 And the conspiracy theory is that Nikola Tesla found a 614 00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:29.199 way to do free energy for the world, but companies 615 00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:34.679 like Morgan and Morgan took over or quote unquote maybe 616 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:40.840 killed them to get all that to themselves. That's it. 617 00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:42.440 Take it away, Akashi. 618 00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:51.599 I love thank you so much, Ruthie, because Tesla's story 619 00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:57.039 is so tragic. It's like, you know, it can remind 620 00:39:57.079 --> 00:39:59.320 you a little bit of Truman Show, whenever Truman wanted 621 00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.280 to get some and there was always an obstacle. This 622 00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:04.480 is what happened to Tesla all the time, right that 623 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.960 they destroyed the death ray was called telephorce, and of 624 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:13.719 course saw conspiracy theory, right, but you know he called 625 00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:17.519 it cosmic energy. What he found. It's like a way 626 00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:22.599 to harness the earth, you know, to use those natural resources, 627 00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:27.159 you know, and get away from from this crazy turning 628 00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:30.800 of energy that we have right now because we just 629 00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:34.400 don't want to accept it. So I it's so sad. 630 00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:38.679 He died alone, broke everywhere he turned, he was turned 631 00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:43.239 away for somebody else, or his equipment was destroyed over 632 00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:47.000 and over again, or like you said, his paperwork has 633 00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:50.239 taken all his work was stolen and taken him where 634 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:55.159 the go? You know, who knows? So I love tesla 635 00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:57.679 story so sad, but I loved it. You know, I've 636 00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:01.199 always wandered the whole three six nine session with three 637 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.239 six nine? What you what was he thinking? So thank 638 00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:06.599 you so much Ruthie for bringing that to lessons. 639 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:09.559 A good one, I think the mall had it right, Oh, 640 00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:12.320 Gosha because they had that store five seven nine, so 641 00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:14.880 they're only off by two. J tough crowd. 642 00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:22.760 I love that store. Oh my goodness, that was store. 643 00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:28.079 Good for you, skinny. Some people had to go to 644 00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:29.480 the fat Girl's store. 645 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:33.000 She's like, do you have nine and a half. They're like, no, 646 00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:35.760 we cap it at nine. Uh, don't worry. I'm in 647 00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:40.400 no dangerous shopping exactly. I need the husky kids clothing, 648 00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:42.920 the modern world. 649 00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:52.079 I'm gonna taste. 650 00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:51.400 The modern world. 651 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.199 N Buddy bought a pair of pants, Smitty. He bought 652 00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:57.159 a pair of pants at Frids one time because he 653 00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:59.960 spilled his something on his other pants. Like, you want 654 00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.360 to get some cheap pants, get him at Freid's son. 655 00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:07.159 Let me tell you, I'm sorry. 656 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:07.719 Back to you. 657 00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:14.760 Nikola Tesla a great deal of thanks, but we definitely 658 00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:18.400 did not get all his tech. This stuff they problem. 659 00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:23.400 This is aultimating current one of them. So yeah, Boston 660 00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:28.840 be a taken away on the Nikola Tesla conspiracy. 661 00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:33.199 Well, admittedly I didn't know a lot about him, but 662 00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:35.320 one of the things I was doing behind the scenes 663 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:38.719 is trying to see if he was part of the 664 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.519 Tesla car company. But it does look like the Tesla 665 00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:46.440 brand was named in honor of him, right so, and 666 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:52.800 it's also no coincidence that also like solar panels, like 667 00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:57.079 my bill to the solar company is from Tesla. But 668 00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:59.000 as far as his history, I have to say I 669 00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.400 didn't know much about him. But I know with the 670 00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:04.960 modern you know, when we say Tesla, you just think 671 00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:08.320 of the cars. But I guess that was then in 672 00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:11.440 his honor. So that's all I got to say. 673 00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:14.679 Debs Nicola Tesla conspiracy. 674 00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:18.880 Okay, so interesting story that I found out. Once upon 675 00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:22.719 a time the light bulb companies sat down and had 676 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:26.559 a meeting because some of the light bulbs were lasting 677 00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:30.280 too long. In fact, there is one light bulb that 678 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:33.760 is still going that is I believe, about one hundred 679 00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:38.880 or something years old in a firehouse, and they decided 680 00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:42.719 that they needed to change the light bulbs because they 681 00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.000 wanted to make money off of them, they didn't want 682 00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:48.519 them to last too long. So do I suspect greed 683 00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:52.199 would have something to do with the demise of Tesla, 684 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:56.119 Absolutely possible. I do think he had some of his 685 00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:59.760 own demons. However, I don't think that he was all 686 00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:04.039 to together so to speak. So I think that could 687 00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:09.079 have also contributed to his demise. But I think that 688 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:12.559 people were definitely watching him like a hawk to steal 689 00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.000 his ideas from him. 690 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:16.119 No question. 691 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:17.480 And the. 692 00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:20.719 I was going to say, when you think about an 693 00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:25.920 incandescent bulb with the filament that runs across it, there's 694 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:29.079 no way that a piece of metal shouldn't be fatigued 695 00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:32.840 and break in the middle after all these years. So 696 00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:35.599 the fact that that happened as a miracle, I also 697 00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.639 know from I did some reading up on navigation, and 698 00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:41.800 there was they were trying to figure out a new 699 00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:45.559 ways to navigate in England. And I want to say 700 00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:47.920 it was in the eighteen hundreds and this guy built 701 00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:51.880 a clock made with wooden gears. It's still running today, 702 00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:55.920 like York or something. The clock is over two hundred 703 00:44:56.000 --> 00:45:00.519 years old, has wooden gears and still runs. Tim's got 704 00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:07.440 Tim's got his watch from Switzerland, right there? Is it? Yeah? 705 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:08.119 Oh wo. 706 00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:09.840 Man? 707 00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:18.159 Yeah for real man. So anyway, regarding your your conspiracy, uh, 708 00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:23.079 someone in the chat putty very well, I don't. First 709 00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:24.599 of all, I want to confess I don't have a 710 00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.559 lot of knowledge on Nicola Tesla, so I wouldn't go there. 711 00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:31.639 This is a conspiracy that I've heard for the last 712 00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:35.960 five years about since I started studying UFOs, that I 713 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:39.360 have heard about Nikola Tesla. So I find that there 714 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:42.559 probably is a lot of credibility in that there's obviously 715 00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:46.320 been movies and documentaries made about him. He was in 716 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:51.239 competition for which electricity would power America with Thomas Alva Edison, 717 00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:55.800 and obviously, although he didn't get the credit because Thomas 718 00:45:55.800 --> 00:46:00.079 alva Edison was was a proponent of d C power. Well, 719 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:03.639 what happens when a generator is running DC power and 720 00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:06.880 for some reason that generator slow down, slows down, your 721 00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:10.559 lights go dim so as it slows down. So that's 722 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:15.000 why alternating current and why now we used to have 723 00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:20.360 DC generators in vehicles and now we have alternators. So yeah, 724 00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:24.880 I don't doubt your conspiracy at all, Ruthie. Zero point 725 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:28.000 energy is something that you would think that the world 726 00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.840 or production would not be in favor of something like that. 727 00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:37.119 People have been killed for very very ridiculous reasons that 728 00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:40.199 would be at the bottom of a ten thousand line 729 00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:45.840 continuum compared to someone producing something that would make companies 730 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.480 in stock tank, especially when you look at the stock 731 00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:55.360 market crash of the nineteen twenties, doctor Tim. 732 00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:58.719 Yeah, so thanks for that conspiracy theory, Ruthie, because I 733 00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:01.960 think it's the perfect concert seriously, because it still resonates 734 00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:06.239 strong today and it's a great continuation of our previous 735 00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:10.000 topic from dev with the UFO files. Because and by 736 00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:12.400 the way, thank you for bringing up the light bulbs, 737 00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:16.199 because a lot of people may not realize this, but 738 00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:19.480 we all in this country may have something in the 739 00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.559 light bulbs. Right down the roads from all Things Unexplained video, 740 00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.840 this is actually going in my next book, and that 741 00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:29.639 is tungsten. And so two brothers down the road here 742 00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:34.119 in North Carolina discovered at the time the largest North 743 00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:39.519 American tungsten deposit and known at the time, and they 744 00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:43.400 discovered that, wow, this this stuff has a really high 745 00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:47.639 melting pool and it's perfect for things like covering tanks 746 00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:50.119 in them, and then later on light bulbs. So I'm 747 00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.480 glad you brought up the light bulbs. But Tesla, you know, 748 00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:57.639 and I think Ruthy brought up Epstein files earlier. I 749 00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:00.199 think it can tie in here because I do think 750 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:03.239 the UFO files could be a distraction from the UFO 751 00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:06.960 files because from what I've looked. I've been focused on 752 00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:08.840 the Epstein files just on one thing, and that's his 753 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:14.400 connection to science and mathematics, physics, and I believe, I 754 00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:20.559 fully believe that if not Epstein himself, whoever was behind Epstein, 755 00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:27.159 they were attempting to achieve a new breakthrough in physics 756 00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:34.079 and mathematics. And that should be frightening because he also 757 00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:38.920 had conferences on the apocalypse. He literally had conferences called 758 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:44.800 doomsday conferences. And the last major breakthrough in physics we had, 759 00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:48.760 I mean major breakthrough. We had a little something called 760 00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:53.280 the atomic bomb come out of that. And I think 761 00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:56.639 it was Einstein that said that he didn't know how 762 00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:59.039 world War three would go, but world War four would 763 00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:02.679 start with sticks and stones. And so I think that, 764 00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:05.159 you know, we hear all this talk about free energy, 765 00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.039 but that could come at a price too, right, if 766 00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:12.880 we have a breakthrough in gravity and physics, you know, 767 00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.159 and we're talking about the military is almost certainly going 768 00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:18.599 to be involved here. We have to believe that, you know, 769 00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:23.760 this also the potential for incredible harm in the world. 770 00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:27.440 Ruthie brought up the death ray. That's applicable today too, 771 00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:30.480 because look at the reporting that sixty minutes is done 772 00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:34.280 with the Vana syndrome. I mean, what would you call 773 00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:38.199 that if not a death ray? It literally is a 774 00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:43.559 direct energy weapon that we know is being used on 775 00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:50.000 scientists and officials around the world potentially. I had an astrophysicist 776 00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:53.400 after a podcast one night tell me off the air 777 00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:57.440 that a colleague of his had been attacked by a 778 00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:03.159 direct energy weapon and had physical damage from that, and 779 00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:06.440 that they were literally afraid to leave the country because 780 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.280 they did not know what would happen to them. And 781 00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:10.719 this is because of a literal death ray. 782 00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:11.119 And so. 783 00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:17.679 I think that the Tesla conspiracy theory is terrific because 784 00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:21.480 it continues today and continues to resonate. 785 00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:29.280 Yeah, I h the when you look at the energy 786 00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:33.119 that he created and what it looked like, you know, 787 00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:34.440 it looked like lightning bolts. 788 00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:34.880 Right. 789 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:39.440 So, Ruthie, when you talk about a death ray, if 790 00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:45.679 you're just harnessing and containing that energy in one single beam, 791 00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:48.559 if you can harness that into a beam, you have 792 00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:52.079 a death ray. I mean, so I can I can 793 00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:56.199 go there quite easily from the energy that he created 794 00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:59.360 with his And again I'm not I don't know, I'm 795 00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:03.679 not a test expert, but it's very easy to see 796 00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:07.000 how he could have projected that energy that would have 797 00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:11.559 done destruction. It's not a laser technology. That's a totally 798 00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:14.239 it's a laser is a is a you know, a 799 00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:18.000 beam of light, basically an intense beam of light. But 800 00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:21.199 but this, yeah, I could totally see that, totally could 801 00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:23.920 see that. So that was a great one. Ruthie, thank 802 00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:26.320 you very much. And you know, maybe we should give 803 00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:36.760 a little bit of an applause to Ruthie Roblez. All Right, 804 00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:41.960 our next conspiracy, I believe is do you want to 805 00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:43.920 go back up to you Bia or you want to 806 00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:48.760 go to a Kashi. I'm mute. It sounds good. It 807 00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:50.239 sounds like, oh. 808 00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:51.559 I said, you can go to Akashi. 809 00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:56.280 That's oe Akashi. With your conspiracy, what do we got? 810 00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:59.440 Okay, So everybody thought that I was going to come 811 00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:04.559 in with blissive diarrhea with the Cyclora Explora uh y, 812 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:09.840 but I pivoted. I pivoted at the last minute. And 813 00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:12.840 I think this one's actually pretty important and really relevant 814 00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:15.639 to the conversation that we're having here. We can talk 815 00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:16.840 about diarrhea later. 816 00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:17.360 So. 817 00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:24.880 Let's talk about everybody dire. But that is a totally 818 00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:30.840 different show. Not for this show. So there was an 819 00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:34.119 article written in Popular Mechanics. Seriously speaking, that was a 820 00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:38.039 Popular Mechanics article written the other day that talked about 821 00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:41.119 inventions that the government doesn't want you to know about, 822 00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:47.119 and it was looking at all these projects right that 823 00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:51.519 go unpublished, and it was actually quoting I didn't know 824 00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:53.599 that this existed, and tell me, I might just be 825 00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:58.280 stupid and new to this. But the Invention Secrecy Act 826 00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:01.840 of nineteen fifty one. Did you guys know about that? 827 00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:02.559 No? 828 00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:07.320 There? Okay, so this is really interesting. If a patent 829 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:13.000 application contains technology considered potentially harmful to national security, the 830 00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:17.840 government can place it under a secrecy order. Well guess 831 00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:21.360 what there was like sixty five hundred and forty three 832 00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:27.199 said are under the secrecy orders. It does not have 833 00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:31.840 to be government related, so they can review all these 834 00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:36.519 patents and basically say this does not get released, you know, 835 00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:39.880 and nobody ever really hears about it. And there was 836 00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:42.079 a FOYA. So what the article was talking about was 837 00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:47.039 a FOYA that was done in twenty ten that showed 838 00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:49.599 that some of the logs said that the things that 839 00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.920 were getting flagged were energy efficiency. So this kind of 840 00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.000 ties it all together. Right, we got you know, we 841 00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:57.679 got the Tesla piece, we got you know, the stuff 842 00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:00.800 that ten was talking about. It's like, is this is 843 00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:07.960 this law the way that things being you know, you know, suppressed. 844 00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:10.920 And maybe it's you know, money related, maybe it's not 845 00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:14.760 you know, national security, because that's pretty subjective. This goes 846 00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:18.480 back to UAP, right, don't release it because of national security? 847 00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:22.440 Same thing. But now it is like this blanket and 848 00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:25.320 look at the year nineteen fifty one. You had the 849 00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:27.800 CIA created, you know, you got the forty you know, 850 00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:31.400 nineteen forty seven, nineteen you know, all that started to happen, 851 00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:36.639 and this law sitting there just protecting, you know, making 852 00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:38.679 sure that patterns don't get out that they don't want. 853 00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:40.280 What do you guys think? 854 00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:44.239 All right, who is next to It's not diarrhea, but 855 00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:46.599 it's you know what, nothing is going to be as 856 00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:49.760 good as diarrhea. We're gonna we're going to suffer without that. 857 00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:54.639 I don't know which direction. Let's reset. Let's go to 858 00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:56.920 DEBS and then we'll go to Bah and then Ruthie 859 00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:58.840 and then doctor Tim. So let's start with DEBS. 860 00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:04.440 I think that's fast, is slightly alarming, you know, I'm 861 00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:07.119 kind of like in the middle when it comes to politics. 862 00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:11.239 But I'm also sometimes inclined that the government shouldn't have 863 00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:15.159 that much control over us, which goes a little bit 864 00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:18.760 I don't know towards the Republican side, I think, but 865 00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:22.679 I don't appreciate that they're hiding those things, and I 866 00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:24.880 know that greed is definitely one of those things that 867 00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:29.679 contributes to that. You know, what comes to minds for 868 00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:33.039 me on this is, you know, the astro car and 869 00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:35.800 some of the hovering platforms that were created in the 870 00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:40.199 fifties and we didn't even get to learn about them until, 871 00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:44.760 you know, some seventy years later. You know, so how 872 00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:48.679 many things are they actually using that people are trying 873 00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:51.440 to patent for their own use and that we're not 874 00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:54.039 going to find out about for seventy years. 875 00:55:55.000 --> 00:56:03.159 Yeah, Boston Via So I was looking it up and 876 00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:07.760 they have over sixty five hundred active secrecy orders in 877 00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.840 place and it's still active today. 878 00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:15.320 So yes, it allows the government to suppress the disclosure 879 00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:21.960 of patent applications and that restricts exports and prevent technology 880 00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:23.440 from being commercialized. 881 00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:25.440 That's pretty interesting that. 882 00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:31.159 You know, you know who's in control, and you know 883 00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:35.599 they can hide it under a secrecy because they want 884 00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:38.639 the technology that somebody is thinking of. 885 00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:42.800 So that's pretty interesting. I never knew that existed. 886 00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:45.119 So thank you for bringing up a great topic and 887 00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:47.599 it's definitely worth diving into a little bit more. 888 00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.199 Thanks for looking that up. Yeah that thanks for looking 889 00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:54.719 that up, because I think this could lead to some 890 00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:56.159 other convos things. 891 00:56:56.760 --> 00:56:59.360 Yeah. Absolutely, I have a follow up to this one 892 00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:01.079 as well, but it's not my turn yet. So if 893 00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:06.480 you could introduce the person sitting in between Tim and Akashubia, sure, 894 00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:08.280 Ruthie Ross. 895 00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:19.840 I always get the wrestler intro, So yep, sorry, I 896 00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:25.440 got hit gups. So my thought is the government, the 897 00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:27.840 government is gonna make you think whatever they want. 898 00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:38.559 And you know, I think we're losing some of your audio. 899 00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:43.320 Go ahead, can you hear me now? 900 00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:43.880 Yes? 901 00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:52.079 Okay, Well, the government wants to let us think and 902 00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:56.480 hear a certain thing, which you know it doesn't it 903 00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:58.840 doesn't matter at the end of the day. But I 904 00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:00.239 agree with the cash. 905 00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:11.360 And you know, yeah, I want I'll follow up with 906 00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:15.000 this one real quick. There is I knew this act 907 00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:20.199 because I worked in industry in between what I do now, 908 00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:24.159 like for Lockheed and says the Export Control Act, which 909 00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:30.039 is covered under twenty two US Code, Chapter thirty nine, 910 00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:36.880 and that basically prevents foreign companies from selling arms for 911 00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:41.199 like I'm sorry, defense contractors. That could be Lockey, that 912 00:58:41.239 --> 00:58:43.239 could be Boeing, that could be Raytheon, that could be 913 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.119 l three, that could be any of these contractors from 914 00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:50.920 selling to a foreign government. Because so, in other words, 915 00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:54.320 if somebody buy, let's just say there's I think there's 916 00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:59.360 I don't think there's any countries within F thirty five. 917 00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:02.880 I don't think that technologies out there there are countries 918 00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:06.360 that have F thirty F twenty twos. Let's say we 919 00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:09.800 were to sell an F twenty two to the Saudi Arabians. 920 00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:13.280 They are getting an F twenty two in terms of 921 00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:20.039 engine propulsion, navigation, but they're not necessarily going to have 922 00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:24.719 all the magic boxes of avionics that exist on that 923 00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:28.639 F twenty two, so it won't have the capabilities in 924 00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:31.679 terms of targeting, in terms of weaponry. I've explained this 925 00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:34.400 to you via you and I had this conversation once 926 00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:41.000 that our F twenty twos have. So I guess everybody 927 00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:44.519 should know and understand that even though the Saudis at 928 00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:47.320 the time were flying around with F fifteen Strike Eagles. 929 00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:51.400 They didn't have necessarily the exact same radar or the 930 00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:55.360 exact same targeting pod, et cetera, because they don't want 931 00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:58.199 other countries to have the exact same technology we have 932 00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:01.400 unless they build it. These rallies have built some great 933 01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:05.440 technology and they're not selling it outside of their their country. 934 01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:08.280 As well, they have some avionics that they've that they're 935 01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:12.400 their companies in Israel have have have engineered. So anyway, 936 01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:17.320 this follows that same premise that this follows that same 937 01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:20.239 premise that, uh yeah, if an inventor worked to come 938 01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:23.960 out with a technology and file for a patent like 939 01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:28.480 Salvatore Paist did for the Navy, that that that that 940 01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:31.199 that may get locked down and not released any further 941 01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:34.559 than us seeing those drawings, which basically are nothing. They're 942 01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:37.800 just based basic drawings that they're submitting to the US 943 01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:40.679 Patent Office. So yeah, that that totally makes sense to me. 944 01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:45.559 Who's next, I believe it is, uh, doctor de Mounts. 945 01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:48.639 Well, you know, I think that's a great conspiracy because 946 01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:54.360 it really ties into what we generally think of as conspiracies. 947 01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:59.599 This this grand compartmentalization of knowledge and the separating of 948 01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:01.800 it and the keeping it out of the public's hands, 949 01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:05.719 and all the different people that are involved in causing 950 01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:08.320 these things to happen. And I'm gonna tell you something 951 01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:13.519 that is related, in my opinion, to what we're talking 952 01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:17.079 about here with these inventions, and that is the Atomic 953 01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:21.480 Security Act or the Atomic Energy Act. This came about 954 01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:24.239 in nineteen forty six. If you're not familiar with it, 955 01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:28.599 and essentially anything that falls under the Atomic Energy Act, 956 01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:33.559 you're not finding out anything about it, I mean never ever, 957 01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:37.199 and nobody is. I mean, I'm not sure. I know 958 01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:40.519 DJ might know someone that has high enough clearance to 959 01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:44.320 find out something that's in that vault, but I don't 960 01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:46.480 know of anybody, and you're never gonna find it out. 961 01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:49.400 Like anything that went under it in the forties, basically 962 01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:52.519 for the most part, it's still there. And I'm gonna 963 01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:54.400 give a shout out to somebody that I think everybody 964 01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:57.400 should look up if you're interested in this subject matter, 965 01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:02.960 and that is Richard Guildret Skeldreich on Twitter, it's ge 966 01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:08.159 L D R E c H. He makes fascinating posts 967 01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:12.199 and he has really dug into this Atomic Energy Act. 968 01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:15.719 And here's a post of his It says doctor detlif 969 01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:20.679 BRONC MJ twelve member applied for an Atomic Energy Act 970 01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:26.559 security clearance on July eighth, nineteen forty seven. If that 971 01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:28.920 date rings a bell, it is the same day as 972 01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:35.079 the Roswell capture announcement. This is in a declassified FBI memo. 973 01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:37.800 And if you really just get to pay an attention, 974 01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:40.360 you will be shocked at what you'll learn about the 975 01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:44.280 people and how you can and Richard tracks them based 976 01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:49.440 on their security clearances and applications with the Atomic Energy Act. 977 01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:50.960 So really fascinating stuff. 978 01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:53.280 Go figure, I'm already following them. 979 01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:54.360 Tim, there you go. 980 01:02:56.880 --> 01:03:01.000 And the fact what you mentioned Debt Lift, I mean 981 01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:04.840 that in the time that MJ twelve happened, Debtlift is 982 01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:07.280 obviously a German name. I think you know that from 983 01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:10.920 the NBA. Tim, everybody here might not know that, but 984 01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:13.719 he could have been one of those scientists that came 985 01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:17.960 over as part of the Nazi captures. You know those scientists. 986 01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:20.119 What was the other guy that came that headed up 987 01:03:20.199 --> 01:03:23.400 NASA and that whole Apollo program. What was his name? 988 01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:26.880 You know who I'm talking about? Oh, yeah, yeah, he 989 01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:30.440 was a Nazi. So yeah, there's several I mean there's 990 01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:42.239 more than just one bun. Yeah, last last ba. We're 991 01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:50.760 not gonna get any more tough, cirl. So so yeah, there, 992 01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:54.159 it's it's likely in the time that the first iteration 993 01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:57.159 of m J twelve would have been in that after 994 01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.599 World War two time frame? Am I correct? Debs? Is 995 01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:01.119 that correct? 996 01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:02.800 Yes? 997 01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:06.519 I agree. There's a possibility that that's about when it 998 01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:09.880 happened because if you if you look in the Armies 999 01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:15.559 Boya on UAPs, that's when they start looking for the 1000 01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:19.119 flying Wing and they go to Germany and they have 1001 01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:24.199 a lot of investigations about what was seen over the 1002 01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:27.840 United States. It's very interesting. So I think that's about 1003 01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:29.679 the time things would have peeded up. 1004 01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:33.800 H good stuff. We got a lot, we got a 1005 01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:36.440 lot of great smart people on this panel right here 1006 01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:39.480 that's really helping to inform the audience and a lot 1007 01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:42.880 of great perspectives. So I'm really really enjoying enjoying this, 1008 01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:45.679 h Tim What is uh? I think it's time for 1009 01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.320 your conspiracy in the meantime going to try to bring 1010 01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:51.159 up that Crush interview because I think we would all 1011 01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:52.920 just have a blast with. 1012 01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:55.039 That, Okay, And I just wanted to click add on 1013 01:04:55.079 --> 01:04:57.480 there to what dy Ab was saying. Please, I had 1014 01:04:57.519 --> 01:04:59.679 mentioned how to me, some of the greatest things in 1015 01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:03.559 the profile so far have been the historical reports. And 1016 01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:07.559 we were doing a shocking amount of studies into green 1017 01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:13.360 fireballs in the forties and fifties, particularly green fireballs that 1018 01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:18.360 were appearing over our sensitive military sites. So this goes 1019 01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:20.480 back to this whole thing that you know, these orbs 1020 01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:22.599 and stuff like this is not a new phenomena, this 1021 01:05:22.760 --> 01:05:26.599 interaction with our sensitive military sites, and they were very 1022 01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:30.159 concerned about it, and we're bringing in outside scientists to 1023 01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:33.480 study that phenomenon back then, and for the most part, 1024 01:05:33.519 --> 01:05:35.800 they said, hey, this is this is not something we 1025 01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:38.119 know exactly what is going on here. 1026 01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:41.800 The only reason I'm hesitant to talk about the green 1027 01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:45.800 blobs is because that could make Akashi think of diarrhea. 1028 01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:48.320 And then we'll go back to our our conversation we 1029 01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:49.760 had Thursday with a. 1030 01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:56.880 It's a different show, talk about that later. 1031 01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:00.159 This is your. 1032 01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:06.920 All right, So I actually made a power point for 1033 01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:10.840 my little thing here. Yeah, and I'll see if I 1034 01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:14.119 can run down it. So I'm fascinated with Mount Saint 1035 01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:16.480 Helens and we all kind of know about the tragic 1036 01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:19.880 situation that unfolded there in nineteen eighty. But did you 1037 01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:23.880 know that a lot of people believe that something was 1038 01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:28.599 hidden after the Mount Saint Helen's eruption, And this is 1039 01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:34.920 a bigfoot cover up conspiracy involving the nineteen eighty Mount 1040 01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:38.079 Saint Helen's eruption, And of course, eight thirty two am 1041 01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:40.960 on May eighteenth, nineteen eighty, the north face of Mount 1042 01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:45.639 Saint Helens collapsed in the mountain exploded sideways. The official 1043 01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:50.840 death toll was fifty seven lives. There's some great documentaries here, 1044 01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:55.400 including one scientist that was studying it. He seemed like 1045 01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:58.400 he was at a very safe distance, but of course 1046 01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:01.559 when it erupted, he is not able to escape. But 1047 01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:05.559 he captured some of the most iconic footage, unfortunately in 1048 01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:09.480 his death that we have of the incident. But there's 1049 01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:13.119 also a persistent legend involving the Mount Saint Helen's eruption, 1050 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:16.480 and that that is, it didn't just kill people and 1051 01:07:16.719 --> 01:07:19.719 wildlife as we know it, but it also kills something else, 1052 01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:25.599 and that that evidence was hurried away by the military. 1053 01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:30.119 And here's basically how this legend was built. So it 1054 01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.480 kind of has three parts here. So we have the 1055 01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:39.039 pre existing legends of bigfoot sasquatches in the area before 1056 01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:41.519 the Mount Saint Helen's eruption, and then we have the 1057 01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:45.119 eruption itself, and then we have the cover up and 1058 01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:50.079 this legend well before the mounts Helen's eruption ever happened. Sorry, 1059 01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:51.280 oh nowhere, let. 1060 01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:53.639 Me I was trying to put that big on screen 1061 01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:55.519 and then I was trying to make it as big 1062 01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:57.559 as possible and it screwed it up there. 1063 01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:00.559 Sorry, go ahead, oh nowhere. Well before the Mountain Helens 1064 01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:05.800 ever erupted, there were reports of something large and hairy 1065 01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:09.039 and just out there in the woods. And this goes 1066 01:08:09.079 --> 01:08:12.559 back to actually native people and they called it the Skukum. 1067 01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:15.320 So even back to ancient times in the area of 1068 01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:20.800 the Pacific Northwest Tribe, they had legends of the Skukum 1069 01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:25.760 and this was Chinook jargon for strong or powerful or 1070 01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:30.159 something big and hairy, wild man of the forest of 1071 01:08:30.199 --> 01:08:33.880 the area of the Schuokum. And then we some of 1072 01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:36.479 you may have heard of the Battle of Ape Canyon 1073 01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:39.439 and this occurred in yeah, the summer, and that was 1074 01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:42.119 in this area. This occurred in the summer nineteen twenty 1075 01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:46.279 four five. Gold prospectors working on a claim on the 1076 01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:52.399 mountain's northeast flank reported a night long deluge of boulders 1077 01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:57.079 and rocks down upon them by something mysterious. They weren't 1078 01:08:57.119 --> 01:09:00.840 quite sure exactly what was going on there. One creature 1079 01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:03.720 allegedly reached through a gap to seas and acts and 1080 01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:07.399 the men answered and shot their rifles at them, and 1081 01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:10.159 the Oregonian, the local paper, even ran the tail and 1082 01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:14.319 the gorge Earns earned its name since then Ape Canyon. 1083 01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:19.600 And actually I love Josh Gates and Expedition Unknown. Josh 1084 01:09:19.640 --> 01:09:24.239 Gates with Expedition Unknown has actually uncovered what they believe 1085 01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:30.399 was the site that this Ape Kenyon incident actually took 1086 01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:34.840 place at. So they did uncover like archaeological evidence of 1087 01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:37.399 the cabin and the campsite and that sort of thing, 1088 01:09:37.439 --> 01:09:40.479 only kind of like the cliff face there where they're 1089 01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:44.960 in Ape Kenyon. And then later we had the account 1090 01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:49.920 from a prospector. I believe what what year did this 1091 01:09:50.039 --> 01:09:55.000 take place? This was, what's that in the thirties or twenties? 1092 01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:55.960 Eight Kenyon. 1093 01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:59.920 Eight Keny was in twenties, This was in nineteen parent 1094 01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:03.000 in the sixties though, there was another party out there 1095 01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:05.840 and they described creatures over some foot tall, covered in 1096 01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:09.520 long black hair, walking upright. And there was actually a 1097 01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:14.000 book written by Beck Fred Beck called I Fought the 1098 01:10:14.039 --> 01:10:18.199 Ape Man of or Eight Men of Mount Saint Helen's, 1099 01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:23.319 and the story became a cornerstone of Pacific Northwest Lower. 1100 01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:26.920 And then, of course we know one day the mountain exploded. 1101 01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:29.279 But the thing is, you know, if you grew up 1102 01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:32.640 believing that there were bigfoots out there, then you had 1103 01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:35.239 to believe that they would have been wrapped up in 1104 01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:41.439 this incident as well. And March nineteen eighty there were 1105 01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:45.680 some earthquakes that preceded this, and then on May eighteenth, 1106 01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:49.319 the magnitude five plus quake dropped the entire north face, 1107 01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:56.000 largest landside in recorded history, and the sudden pressure release 1108 01:10:56.439 --> 01:10:59.960 let superheated gas and rock explode latterly towards Spirit Lake, 1109 01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:08.119 and eruption column climbed eighty thousand feet high. And on 1110 01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:10.720 my next side here this is some mind blowing statistics. 1111 01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:16.079 Here the speed of the blast was six hundred and 1112 01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:19.840 seventy miles per hour. It flattened two hundred and thirty 1113 01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:23.279 square miles. I already said fifty seven lives were lost, 1114 01:11:23.319 --> 01:11:26.640 but the energy here involved. Think about this was equivalent 1115 01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:34.319 to sixteen hundred Hiroshima bombs, which is just, you know, 1116 01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:37.960 pretty mind blowing. And then the cover up came in 1117 01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:42.439 because they did send in the National Guard to recover 1118 01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:45.760 the bodies that were on the side of the mountain, 1119 01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:49.720 and surface began and they were blocking off some of 1120 01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:52.680 these areas, and so it didn't take long for accounts 1121 01:11:52.680 --> 01:11:57.520 to start surfacing that the cleanup crews were collecting dead 1122 01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:03.399 sasquatch among the animal carcases, and that the eruption's recovery, 1123 01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:07.479 which included a heavy military in presence. You know, this 1124 01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:11.239 was actually the perfect breeding ground for such stories for 1125 01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:15.439 the conspiracy theories involving the Bigfoot and believers. Note the 1126 01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:19.520 local Bigfoot were said to live exactly where the blast 1127 01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:25.119 struck the hardest. But of course, if that's true, where 1128 01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:30.960 did the bodies go. Well, one man identified as Bradshaw, 1129 01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:33.720 and his story was recorded in a book written by 1130 01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:37.720 Linda Cole such he called Who's Watching You said he 1131 01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:41.520 was posted over a covered heap of carcasses under armed guard, 1132 01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:44.079 and when the tarps were lifted, he claimed to see 1133 01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:48.439 sasquatch bodies under there, and then there were other accounts 1134 01:12:48.520 --> 01:12:53.279 from witnesses that claimed to see a Chinook helicopter flying 1135 01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:55.640 at one hundred hundred and fifty feet with a cargo 1136 01:12:55.720 --> 01:13:00.159 net slung underneath, with three hairy, ash coated bodies with 1137 01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:07.359 long gray limbs. Of course, there's been no official recognition 1138 01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:15.720 of such an event happening, and what exactly did they hide? 1139 01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:19.640 And I'm going to go back one slide actually to 1140 01:13:19.720 --> 01:13:22.399 talk about the keepers of the legend. But these are 1141 01:13:22.399 --> 01:13:25.920 some names involved here. Fred Beck, he was the prospector 1142 01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:28.560 who survived the nineteen twenty four incident, and I had 1143 01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:31.039 wrote a book on it in sixty seven. Mark myself, 1144 01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:35.560 researcher who probed ap Ken Insight for its twenty twenty 1145 01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:38.600 four centennial. Linda Sutchi who wrote that book. I mentioned, 1146 01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:40.840 Who's Watching You? And a lot there's been a lot 1147 01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:48.399 of modern median podcasts that's talked about the incident. And 1148 01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:51.399 you know, all these accounts keep coming together about these 1149 01:13:51.439 --> 01:13:56.439 bodies that vanished, and so this mystery has persisted that 1150 01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:59.880 the Mount Saint Helens eruption not only claimed human and 1151 01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:04.079 animal lives, but our dear friend the Bigfoot as well. 1152 01:14:04.239 --> 01:14:06.239 And I was lucky enough to get to hike near 1153 01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:10.199 Mount Saint Helens three years ago, so twenty twenty three, 1154 01:14:10.479 --> 01:14:15.319 that's me out there hiking there Mount Saint Helens. And 1155 01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:18.199 I strongly encourage anyone if you get a chance, to 1156 01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:20.760 hit out that way and check it out. And that 1157 01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:26.399 is the Bigfoot conspiracy theory of Mount Saint Helens. 1158 01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:34.359 Can somebody give me amen? I love that man, That 1159 01:14:34.479 --> 01:14:38.720 was excellent. I have heard that one. At least part 1160 01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:43.800 of it is very very well founded. We've mentioned this 1161 01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:47.439 on the show several times. Battle Mountain in Nevada, that 1162 01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:52.039 fire Mount Saint Helens, that government entities came and picked 1163 01:14:52.119 --> 01:14:58.239 up bigfoot that were burnt, singed, injured, some alive, some 1164 01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:01.680 not a live ap Latchicola when they had a fire 1165 01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:07.680 there in Florida. So yeah, it's that that information is 1166 01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:10.479 is quite well founded. And that was a beautiful presentation. 1167 01:15:11.159 --> 01:15:16.319 Thank you for putting that together. Oh thanks, Let's go 1168 01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:20.039 around the horn, debs. What do you think about that? 1169 01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:24.359 About the revelations and that presentation by Doctor Mounts and 1170 01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:25.520 Bigfoot and et cetera. 1171 01:15:25.960 --> 01:15:30.920 Okay, so weird syncreticity here. My roommate literally just made 1172 01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:34.560 me watch the eruption of Mount Saint Helens. 1173 01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:38.039 Oh, oh, sorry, can't make that up. 1174 01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:39.880 Yeah, it's how weird? 1175 01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:40.159 Is that? 1176 01:15:40.439 --> 01:15:40.520 So? 1177 01:15:42.239 --> 01:15:42.439 You know? 1178 01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:47.079 My my thing is it Yes, it's very possible for 1179 01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:50.239 sure that that happens, But the bigger issue is it's 1180 01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:54.600 probably happening at all the national perks, and it's probably 1181 01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:59.359 not just exclusively for that. I think that we have 1182 01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:05.079 gotten the impression from rangers that they're aware the Bigfoot 1183 01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:09.199 is there. So I think it is a good question 1184 01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:13.600 where are they taking bigfoot when they recover bigfoot? And 1185 01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:14.680 what are they doing? 1186 01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:15.359 Like? 1187 01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:18.800 Why are they not being open about that? Great question? 1188 01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:22.840 But I unfortunately have no further answers as to what 1189 01:16:22.880 --> 01:16:26.760 would have happened and why. It is to me a 1190 01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:30.359 conundrum because you know, for instance, if we had wild 1191 01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:33.600 gorillas in a park, they would tell us that we 1192 01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:37.319 have other very dangerous like bison you know who saw 1193 01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:43.560 and recently with the vice in right, So yeah, so 1194 01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:45.279 why are we not being told about this? 1195 01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:45.520 So? 1196 01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:49.880 Yeah, debs, do you if I had to asked you, 1197 01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:52.680 yes or no? Uh, do you think we have that 1198 01:16:53.359 --> 01:16:55.840 our government has a big foot in captivity? 1199 01:16:57.680 --> 01:16:59.680 I'm sad to say that. I think they have a 1200 01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:04.000 lot of things in captivity. I get a strong impression, and. 1201 01:17:05.960 --> 01:17:06.840 Yeah, I don't know why. 1202 01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:09.680 I just think that they do. And I watched Disclosure 1203 01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:15.039 Day for the first time yesterday. They mentioned freeing an 1204 01:17:15.239 --> 01:17:19.000 entity in that movie, and I will not lie, I 1205 01:17:19.079 --> 01:17:22.760 did get emotional during that part. So I think that 1206 01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:26.520 there's a reason that I have that lingering sense that 1207 01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:30.479 we have things that are captured that should not be agreed. 1208 01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:32.600 Tom Boston ba. 1209 01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:38.159 Well, I think the common denominator here, I think is 1210 01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:41.520 the National Forests and all the secrecy around it. 1211 01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:44.760 I think deb made a good point. 1212 01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:47.199 If it was, you know, a bison, if it was 1213 01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:51.399 anything else any other, they would tell us about it. 1214 01:17:52.039 --> 01:17:54.359 But yes, I do think they have one in captivity. 1215 01:17:54.399 --> 01:17:56.840 Of course, they have a lot of things in captivity 1216 01:17:56.880 --> 01:18:01.600 that they've studied. And you know, with all this disclosure, 1217 01:18:01.720 --> 01:18:04.279 I wonder if they will ever let us know anything 1218 01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:06.119 about Bigfoot. 1219 01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:07.800 Good. 1220 01:18:07.840 --> 01:18:11.199 That's a great question. I think there's no pressure for 1221 01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:17.279 them to do so, and pressure creates change. And because 1222 01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:22.840 there's so much pressure from Congress, from you know, former 1223 01:18:22.960 --> 01:18:27.000 government individuals like Louel Zondo and David Grush and Christopher 1224 01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:30.960 Mellan and Jim Semivan and Tom DeLong, the the guitar 1225 01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:34.920 player and all his contacts and and and others. There's 1226 01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:41.199 there's others other than those guys. But with that, yeah, 1227 01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:45.760 that pressure does not exist in the Bigfoot universe, and 1228 01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:48.960 that that's the problem. We all address that when we 1229 01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:51.720 get to me. But Akashi, your your thoughts on what 1230 01:18:52.159 --> 01:18:53.399 doctor Tim's presentation. 1231 01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:59.520 Yeah, I mean the whole connection. You got volcanoes, you've 1232 01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:02.920 got Bigfoot, You've got you know, usually when you have that, 1233 01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:06.199 you have UAP in the middle. So you know, all 1234 01:19:06.239 --> 01:19:08.680 of these things are connected. But you know, we talk 1235 01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:14.199 about I love one of the things that I had 1236 01:19:14.199 --> 01:19:17.680 a conspiracy was, you know, my list was the Smithsonian. 1237 01:19:18.159 --> 01:19:21.159 We talked. You know, when we talk about Bigfoot, I 1238 01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:24.800 can't help but think of all those old newspaper clipping 1239 01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:31.079 the giants and the elongated skull and those also included these. 1240 01:19:31.359 --> 01:19:34.399 You know, it wasn't Bigfoot was a giant. Probably it 1241 01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:39.520 doesn't too, you know, but those those were all out there. 1242 01:19:40.399 --> 01:19:42.880 Yet you know, we're supposed to believe that all those 1243 01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:46.680 old newspaper clippings, they were all the newspapers. You know, 1244 01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:49.560 that was printed media at the time. There was no AI, 1245 01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:53.359 there was no photo shopping, there was no technology, you know, 1246 01:19:53.479 --> 01:19:56.039 but you know, and this is where I'm like, where 1247 01:19:56.039 --> 01:19:59.600 did they wind up? They're probably at the Smithsonian, you know, 1248 01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:01.880 not a living but you know that a lot of 1249 01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:04.720 stuff landed over there. You've got the tunnels, You've got 1250 01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:08.000 you know, you got so many secrets in a place 1251 01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:13.560 where it's supposed to control the narrative of accept the history. 1252 01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:16.520 That's that's what I'm thinking. It's like, it's all about history. 1253 01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:19.279 We can't if you let Bigfoot out, you know, open 1254 01:20:19.319 --> 01:20:21.560 the kimmuno Bigfoot. You got to open the coimmuon of 1255 01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:24.159 a lot of stuff. And I know open kimona is 1256 01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:29.199 probably the wrong phrase to incorrect. I want to die. 1257 01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:34.439 It's well good to open kimo. No, thank you so much, Tim, 1258 01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:35.800 that was your presentation. 1259 01:20:42.920 --> 01:20:44.520 You were going to do it before I got the 1260 01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:45.000 chance to. 1261 01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:48.079 Go for. 1262 01:20:50.960 --> 01:20:55.159 I'm sorry I lost sake. No, but I'm back. So 1263 01:20:57.199 --> 01:21:04.600 with this Bigfoot. So, the place I'm from is called Schenectady. 1264 01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:13.079 It was the Native American Mohawk Territory, and the Bigfoot 1265 01:21:13.720 --> 01:21:18.239 was always known in where I was where you know, 1266 01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:24.920 this territory. So when it comes to Bigfoot, every time 1267 01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:30.640 anybody talks about Bigfoot, or says something about Bigfoot. What 1268 01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:36.800 comes to mind is it's been here for thousands of years. 1269 01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:42.600 The Bigfoot conspiracy, the Bigfoot warning, or whatever you want. 1270 01:21:42.359 --> 01:21:42.880 To call it. 1271 01:21:43.119 --> 01:21:48.119 The Native Americans already knew about Bigfoot. And in my 1272 01:21:48.399 --> 01:21:53.119 humble opinion, okay, the reason why we don't see Bigfoot 1273 01:21:53.439 --> 01:21:58.279 is because, in my again, in my humble opinion, it 1274 01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:02.760 has the capability of becoming invisible, kind of like the predator, 1275 01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:08.199 and we can't see what's going on, but it sees us. 1276 01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:10.960 It sees what we're doing, and it's scared of us. 1277 01:22:11.359 --> 01:22:17.640 Because if again in my opinion, if the Bigfoot opens 1278 01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:20.960 up and shows who they are, they're gonna take them 1279 01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:26.800 and they're gonna do scientific experience experiences on them, and 1280 01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:31.600 they know better, they learn, just like I'm gonna go 1281 01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:35.880 on a whole different route, Mermaids and all these other 1282 01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:43.479 things which are quote unquote not real. Trust me that 1283 01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:49.600 there's big foots in a facility somewhere and they're being 1284 01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:54.119 tested upon because they are real. Again, it's been here 1285 01:22:54.159 --> 01:22:58.479 for thousands of years. Native Americans used to speak about 1286 01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:01.800 the big foots and tell people to be aware about 1287 01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:06.119 the big place. And that's all I gotta say yeah. 1288 01:23:06.119 --> 01:23:12.359 And to add on to what Rubles says is you're 1289 01:23:12.359 --> 01:23:15.800 gonna hear this theme over and over on CAB And 1290 01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:19.279 it's not because I like repeating myself, but because it's 1291 01:23:19.279 --> 01:23:22.680 applicable to a lot of things that we talk about 1292 01:23:22.760 --> 01:23:25.359 when we talk about the phenomenon. And we've even used 1293 01:23:25.359 --> 01:23:30.000 this to contextualize true crime and why people act certain 1294 01:23:30.079 --> 01:23:33.479 ways that we've seen when we were covering Karen Reid 1295 01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:37.079 and certain norms that exist within people and how they've 1296 01:23:37.119 --> 01:23:41.960 reacted to that case. So true crime does have elements 1297 01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:46.119 of this, as we do in the phenomenon. But humans 1298 01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:50.640 like to be able to place something into something they know. 1299 01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:54.039 You'll tell someone a story and they'll say, oh, yeah, 1300 01:23:54.079 --> 01:23:55.880 I have a cousin who did something, you know, Like 1301 01:23:56.039 --> 01:23:59.560 I could say, oh, talking to somebody about Moto Gpin, 1302 01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:02.520 they'll say, oh, I have a cousin who raises dirt bikes, 1303 01:24:03.239 --> 01:24:06.239 you know. So they always want to take something and 1304 01:24:06.279 --> 01:24:09.960 put it in a box that where they can where 1305 01:24:09.960 --> 01:24:12.720 they can understand it, where they can feel comfortable with it. 1306 01:24:13.319 --> 01:24:17.199 What I suspect and what and now why I don't 1307 01:24:17.239 --> 01:24:20.000 just suspect things out of thin air, or I'll tell you, 1308 01:24:20.479 --> 01:24:23.439 I'm susp I'm taking a guess out of thin air 1309 01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:28.880 without knowing anything. In this case, both Tim, myself, Bia 1310 01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:32.800 and even Akashi and Debs have also interviewed a lot 1311 01:24:32.840 --> 01:24:37.560 of bigfoot experiencers at this point, and what they tell 1312 01:24:37.600 --> 01:24:39.720 you is that when they're looking at it and they're 1313 01:24:39.760 --> 01:24:45.920 having a class a daytime close upsighting, they're saying, I 1314 01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:48.560 feel like I'm looking at a human. This is when 1315 01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:51.680 you know where Tim comes from. If they train their 1316 01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:54.520 rifle on something that they can eat or that or 1317 01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:57.319 sometimes that they can just kill, they will shoot it. 1318 01:24:57.920 --> 01:25:00.479 And for them not to shoot it is is a 1319 01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:04.239 departure from the norm. So if it were a bear 1320 01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:07.000 and someone had a big enough rifle that they thought 1321 01:25:07.079 --> 01:25:09.479 they could take down that bear, Tim, and it was legal, 1322 01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:12.960 they'd take it down, right. They're either going to eat it, 1323 01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:15.680 which they do in the Caucuses and I've been in 1324 01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:21.159 Romania they eat bear, or they'll mount it. So but 1325 01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:23.600 if they train their rifle on something that they think 1326 01:25:23.640 --> 01:25:25.800 they can take down, they're going to take it down. 1327 01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:28.479 If they're a hunter for one reason or another, either 1328 01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:30.960 to eat it or because it's unique and they want 1329 01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:33.840 to they want to mount it. Okay, So when they 1330 01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:38.039 don't train their rifle on Bigfoot's or when they train 1331 01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:40.560 it and then they lower their rifles because they're saying 1332 01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:46.439 that looks like a human, That to me looks like 1333 01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:50.640 some sort of a different tribe of people, which is 1334 01:25:50.680 --> 01:25:54.239 getting after what Ruthie talked about. So if you're the 1335 01:25:54.279 --> 01:25:57.279 government and you and you capture one of these things, 1336 01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:00.920 and that may have happened decades before, or anyone on 1337 01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:04.279 this screen was alive, for all we know, we can 1338 01:26:04.279 --> 01:26:08.359 only guess as to how many they've captured, how many 1339 01:26:08.399 --> 01:26:13.079 have been or are in captivity, if any anyone's guests. 1340 01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:15.560 If that's the case, and they say I'm looking at 1341 01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:18.840 a human, well, how are humans going to react to 1342 01:26:18.920 --> 01:26:24.039 another type of human roaman around the woods with InCred? 1343 01:26:24.239 --> 01:26:27.520 You know that survivor man Lestrauz said, I am not 1344 01:26:27.800 --> 01:26:34.720 one one hundredth the woodsman that any Bigfoot is, any adult, 1345 01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:39.680 male or female bigfoot. So how does how do we 1346 01:26:39.760 --> 01:26:43.119 expect the government tim to put that in a box 1347 01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:46.720 if that is some sort of a human being? 1348 01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:53.079 Yeah, I mean that's a great question. I gave a 1349 01:26:53.119 --> 01:26:57.439 recommendation in the chat one of the most fascinating guests 1350 01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:00.359 that I've had on All Things Unexplained is a by 1351 01:27:00.359 --> 01:27:03.800 the name of Kawani laps Aritis. He's in the middle 1352 01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:07.800 of nowhere in Washington State. I could only communicate with 1353 01:27:07.880 --> 01:27:10.920 him through his satellite phone, which he occasionally turned on, 1354 01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:13.039 and when he did turn it on, it still didn't 1355 01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:15.960 get good service. I don't know how he got enough 1356 01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:19.159 bars to actually be on the podcast one night. But 1357 01:27:19.319 --> 01:27:21.640 he is the author of a book. Yeah, there we go. 1358 01:27:21.720 --> 01:27:25.399 He's the author of a book called The Psychic inter 1359 01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:30.239 Dimensional Bigfoot, and I think the title of the book 1360 01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:34.960 says it all in terms of his experiences with the Bigfoot. 1361 01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:37.960 And that's an extension of what Ruthie was talking about, 1362 01:27:38.279 --> 01:27:42.800 and that may very well explain exactly why that sort 1363 01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:46.600 of knowledge should not be publicly available. And that's what 1364 01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:51.319 Akashki a Kashi was talking about too. Bigfoots and UFOs 1365 01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:57.039 are highly correlated with each other in the same timeframe 1366 01:27:57.199 --> 01:28:00.760 of encounters. I don't think anybody could say they know 1367 01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:03.439 for sure why, but it's it is a fact. It's 1368 01:28:03.479 --> 01:28:07.840 a mathematical fact, and you know there's something to that. 1369 01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:10.960 But here's the thing, tim this is I'm trying to 1370 01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:15.880 confine the question I don't. I don't want to explore 1371 01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:19.399 the totality of what bigfoot is in this discussion, because 1372 01:28:19.439 --> 01:28:22.479 that is a great discussion. It's a discussion that we 1373 01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:26.039 will continue to have on cap For the purposes of 1374 01:28:26.039 --> 01:28:29.880 this discussion, I'm trying to drill down to and just 1375 01:28:30.479 --> 01:28:36.199 draw this in the frame to if it's partly human, 1376 01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:41.680 looks acts human in some way, is that enough in 1377 01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:46.960 your mind for the government to want to to be 1378 01:28:47.640 --> 01:28:52.479 KOI and perhaps not even discuss, admit, or talk about 1379 01:28:52.520 --> 01:28:56.000 this creature because they know that they're there, and they 1380 01:28:56.159 --> 01:29:01.319 know that they're human, some sort of offshoot of human. 1381 01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:05.760 Mind absolutely, because what are we What have we been 1382 01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:09.479 led to believe about aliens? We've been led to believe 1383 01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:16.720 that they are bipedal humanoids very similar looking to us, 1384 01:29:17.479 --> 01:29:22.039 potentially giving very advanced versions of us from the far 1385 01:29:22.119 --> 01:29:26.680 flong future, or advance versions of us that escape the 1386 01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:30.520 Earth at some point, you know. And so if we 1387 01:29:31.239 --> 01:29:34.479 if our thoughts of our notions about these different species 1388 01:29:34.479 --> 01:29:39.640 of extraterrestrials are correct, and we definitely believe that knowledge 1389 01:29:39.720 --> 01:29:42.680 is being kept from us, and we know that bigfoots 1390 01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:46.680 are highly correlated with UFO sightings and certainly the same 1391 01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:48.920 logic I think would apply to the cover up of 1392 01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:50.399 the Bigfoot. 1393 01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:54.159 Yeah, I mean it makes total sense to me. I 1394 01:29:54.159 --> 01:29:56.399 don't know what this thing is. It kind of looks human. 1395 01:29:56.479 --> 01:29:58.319 I don't know what we have to give it, what 1396 01:29:58.439 --> 01:30:00.079 we owe it? Do we have to bring it in 1397 01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:03.159 to Congress and have testified? I mean, you know, what 1398 01:30:03.159 --> 01:30:03.840 do you do with it? 1399 01:30:04.279 --> 01:30:08.159 I mean, you know, and I think Tji, I think 1400 01:30:08.159 --> 01:30:10.880 that's the issue too, is that you're you're giving it 1401 01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:13.279 a label of a human, but now you're going to 1402 01:30:13.359 --> 01:30:15.840 have to give it the rights of a human. Insurance 1403 01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:19.600 are they you know, I'm sure any opportunity to make 1404 01:30:19.640 --> 01:30:22.039 somebody else pay taxes we would jump on that. 1405 01:30:22.800 --> 01:30:25.039 Uh, now we have to take care of it. 1406 01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:28.039 So or you know, how are they going to contribute 1407 01:30:28.039 --> 01:30:29.960 to society like the rest of us. 1408 01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:31.640 So I think there's an issue. 1409 01:30:31.399 --> 01:30:34.319 With giving it a label of a human because now 1410 01:30:34.640 --> 01:30:36.600 what where is the expectation? 1411 01:30:37.439 --> 01:30:39.399 What what do we need from them? And what are 1412 01:30:39.439 --> 01:30:40.760 we willing to give them? 1413 01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:45.479 Yeah, I mean just look at alf. 1414 01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:48.239 Oh my God, was awesome. 1415 01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:53.119 From Mailman. 1416 01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:57.000 Yeah, exactly, I love alf Oh my God, that is great. 1417 01:30:57.520 --> 01:30:57.720 Yeah. 1418 01:30:57.800 --> 01:30:59.439 Put him to work is yeah? 1419 01:30:59.479 --> 01:30:59.920 I mean it. 1420 01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:01.720 You could have them on you're one of your new 1421 01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:04.239 team members at work, you know, just to be able to, 1422 01:31:04.399 --> 01:31:07.920 you know, make calls with other bigfoots. But no, that question, no, 1423 01:31:08.079 --> 01:31:10.039 that question could come out. Do you need to provide 1424 01:31:10.119 --> 01:31:12.840 veterinary service to go out and meet them in the 1425 01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:16.319 wild because we've heard I think there's a few of 1426 01:31:16.399 --> 01:31:20.760 us on this panel that have heard of injured bigfoot, 1427 01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:25.159 elderly bigfoot. We've heard of all these things, which gets 1428 01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:29.159 to why James Bobo Fay from what's the name of 1429 01:31:29.199 --> 01:31:32.720 that show Finding Bigfoot? Why James Fay believes that they 1430 01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:36.560 definitely bury their dead. The evidence would suggest that that 1431 01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:42.279 is the case. If they're that smart. Okay, if you 1432 01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:47.039 have the bnobos that are hanging from a limb in 1433 01:31:47.239 --> 01:31:51.800 Africa and fashioning a rod, a fishing rod with a 1434 01:31:51.880 --> 01:31:55.359 twig and bugs on it, then why would we not 1435 01:31:55.520 --> 01:31:57.840 believe that these guys can figure out how to use 1436 01:31:57.840 --> 01:32:00.560 a tool to dig with I mean that just makes 1437 01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:04.039 sense to me. Let's watch a little bit of this interview, 1438 01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:07.560 shall we, and then react because I think it kind 1439 01:32:07.560 --> 01:32:10.640 of it still blows my mind. We talked about it 1440 01:32:10.680 --> 01:32:14.239 back when it came out, and nothing has changed. About that. 1441 01:32:14.800 --> 01:32:16.920 All right, let's say here we are Rascal. 1442 01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:20.720 Test, speculation, conc and science fiction. 1443 01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:22.880 Tell me if you can hear Okay, everybody. 1444 01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:25.920 Serious people have started taking the subject seriously. 1445 01:32:26.199 --> 01:32:28.640 You'll see it come through the top of the screen. 1446 01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:29.479 There it goes. 1447 01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:33.760 Prompted in part by the release of these videos purporting 1448 01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:37.960 to show encounters between American naval aviators and what the 1449 01:32:38.039 --> 01:32:44.239 Pentagon has labeled unidentified aerial or anomalous phenomena, Congress has 1450 01:32:44.359 --> 01:32:49.239 convened hearings to determine what these UAP are and what 1451 01:32:49.359 --> 01:32:50.880 threat they might pose. 1452 01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:54.600 I'm going to fast forward because I don't care when 1453 01:32:54.720 --> 01:32:56.439 these people say. I want to get to Dave Rush. 1454 01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:02.239 This is one of my favorite UFO videos of all time. 1455 01:33:02.279 --> 01:33:06.119 We are flying pyramids, but now. 1456 01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:09.359 For the first time, a former mem made that man 1457 01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:18.319 for the very welcome absolute. Maybe start off telling me 1458 01:33:18.600 --> 01:33:20.039 your name and who you are. 1459 01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:23.199 My name is David Grush. You know, I came from 1460 01:33:23.199 --> 01:33:25.960 a blue collar family in Pittsburgh, didn't have the money 1461 01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:30.880 for college. Always admired people in uniform, and I've always 1462 01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:32.920 wanted to be a part of something bigger than myself. 1463 01:33:33.159 --> 01:33:34.319 And eighteen years. 1464 01:33:34.119 --> 01:33:37.560 Ago, you know, I got an Air Force Scholarship in physics. 1465 01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:40.920 I originally commissioned on active duty in the Air Force. 1466 01:33:41.720 --> 01:33:43.319 Served fourteen years in the Air Force. 1467 01:33:43.720 --> 01:33:46.880 I look at this photograph, Dave, and I see a 1468 01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:48.279 very proud officer. 1469 01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:51.479 I was getting promoted to captain when I was deployed. 1470 01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:54.600 And you still love your country, don't you. Absolutely a 1471 01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:58.840 career intelligence officer, Grush spent time on the ground in 1472 01:33:58.880 --> 01:34:03.319 Afghanistan and other places he can't mention it before rotating 1473 01:34:03.640 --> 01:34:04.840 back to Washington. 1474 01:34:05.119 --> 01:34:08.600 I was an intel officer for the US for fourteen years. 1475 01:34:08.760 --> 01:34:11.640 My last position, which I left in April of twenty 1476 01:34:11.720 --> 01:34:15.960 twenty three, I co led the UAP portfolio for the 1477 01:34:16.039 --> 01:34:19.640 National Geospacial Intelligence Agency, and some of the highest officials 1478 01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:22.600 within the Department of Defense and intelligence community used to 1479 01:34:22.960 --> 01:34:24.680 call on me to advise them on some of the 1480 01:34:24.720 --> 01:34:27.520 hardest target sets that the country had. 1481 01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:33.199 You are one of the most trusted former intelligence officials 1482 01:34:33.239 --> 01:34:35.600 in the US defense and intelligence establishment. 1483 01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:36.560 Yes, I was. 1484 01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:41.640 You were trusted with the most intimate secrets. Yes, and 1485 01:34:41.680 --> 01:34:45.000 he says the most earth shattering of those secrets were 1486 01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:49.079 revealed its verteen nineteen when he was invited to join 1487 01:34:49.319 --> 01:34:53.680 the UAP Task Force. You had the security classifications to 1488 01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:57.840 go anywhere and ask anyone anything I had. 1489 01:34:58.039 --> 01:35:01.760 Based on my foremost secure clearance and multiple polygraphs, I 1490 01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:06.399 had the ability to be read into any program that 1491 01:35:06.479 --> 01:35:09.720 I needed. At one point in time, I was extremely 1492 01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:10.600 highly cleared. 1493 01:35:11.039 --> 01:35:13.960 What conclusion did you come to at the end of 1494 01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:16.039 your time on the UAP task course? 1495 01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:21.239 The UAP Task Force was refused access to a broad 1496 01:35:21.319 --> 01:35:22.560 crash retrieval program. 1497 01:35:23.279 --> 01:35:25.359 When you say crash retrieval, what do you make. 1498 01:35:26.199 --> 01:35:30.680 These are retrieving non human origin technical vehicles. You know, 1499 01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:34.520 call it spacecraft if you will, non human exotic origin 1500 01:35:35.239 --> 01:35:37.239 vehicles that have either landed or crashed. 1501 01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:40.600 We have spacecraft from another species. 1502 01:35:40.920 --> 01:35:45.000 We do. You know how many? Quite a number? You're 1503 01:35:45.039 --> 01:35:46.079 kidding now. 1504 01:35:47.079 --> 01:35:49.199 I thought it was totally nuts, and I thought at 1505 01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:50.560 first I was being deceived. 1506 01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:51.359 It was a ruse. 1507 01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:55.000 People started confiding in me. They approached me. I have 1508 01:35:55.720 --> 01:35:58.920 plenty of current former senior intelligence officers that came to me, 1509 01:35:59.399 --> 01:36:01.800 many of which I knew almost my whole career, that 1510 01:36:01.880 --> 01:36:03.399 can invide it to me. They were a part of 1511 01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:06.640 a program. They named the program. I've never heard of it, 1512 01:36:07.760 --> 01:36:11.560 and they they told me based on the oral testimony, 1513 01:36:12.319 --> 01:36:15.840 and they provided me documents and other other proof that 1514 01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:18.159 there was in fact a program that the UAP Task 1515 01:36:18.199 --> 01:36:19.960 Force was not read into. 1516 01:36:20.760 --> 01:36:25.000 You are religion that the US government has been concealing 1517 01:36:25.520 --> 01:36:29.840 the existence on this planet of alien life. 1518 01:36:31.279 --> 01:36:34.319 I would couch it as non human intelligence, you know, nhi, 1519 01:36:34.520 --> 01:36:36.960 like we would like to say in our language. 1520 01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:38.760 Why do you say that? Why do you say ni chine? 1521 01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:41.359 I don't wouldn't necessarily denote origin. I don't think we 1522 01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:44.319 have all the data to say, oh, they're coming from 1523 01:36:44.680 --> 01:36:46.439 a certain a certain location. 1524 01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:51.119 Okay, So we said earlier that we that we don't know. 1525 01:36:52.920 --> 01:36:55.760 We don't know everything. That's what I'm talking about. We 1526 01:36:55.840 --> 01:36:59.399 don't know everything. Everybody tell me, how's the audi is 1527 01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:01.000 the audio? Yeah? 1528 01:37:01.079 --> 01:37:01.960 Yeah? 1529 01:37:02.640 --> 01:37:09.479 Okaytian and I cultured as somebody who studied physics, where 1530 01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:13.000 maybe they're coming from a different physical dimension as described 1531 01:37:13.039 --> 01:37:16.439 in quantum mechanics. We know there's extra dimensions due to 1532 01:37:16.479 --> 01:37:20.319 high energy particle collisions, et cetera. And there's a theoretical 1533 01:37:20.359 --> 01:37:21.399 framework to explain that. 1534 01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:25.079 To be cut to the quick, you're saying, there is 1535 01:37:25.439 --> 01:37:28.880 an intelligent species engaging with this planet. 1536 01:37:29.079 --> 01:37:31.159 Yes, that's potentially extraterrestrial. 1537 01:37:31.239 --> 01:37:34.239 Yeah, I speak for everybody sitting at home. That is 1538 01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:34.840 a shock. 1539 01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:39.399 It was to me, and I had a lot of 1540 01:37:39.399 --> 01:37:40.199 sleepless nights. 1541 01:37:40.479 --> 01:37:45.960 Grush says he's never personally seen non human intelligence, but 1542 01:37:46.039 --> 01:37:49.840 he's spoken to enough people directly involved in what he 1543 01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:53.600 calls the program that he's convinced it's real. 1544 01:37:54.039 --> 01:37:56.319 I started out as a non believer. I came to 1545 01:37:56.399 --> 01:38:00.239 the problem as an hardcore physics guy intel officer, so 1546 01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:03.039 I have a you know, excuse my language, hype factor. 1547 01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:06.800 I was very methodical, interviewing people who didn't know each other, 1548 01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:09.239 making sure this wasn't some kind of cover up of 1549 01:38:09.279 --> 01:38:10.239 some other program. 1550 01:38:10.720 --> 01:38:14.760 He says he pressed to gain direct access to this program, 1551 01:38:14.920 --> 01:38:19.000 and that's when his trouble started. Brush claims his investigation 1552 01:38:19.359 --> 01:38:22.920 was stymied, his requests for access rebuffed. 1553 01:38:23.159 --> 01:38:25.039 They shut the door in my face. They denied me 1554 01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:26.319 access to these programs. 1555 01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:31.560 Soon after, he says, he endured reprisals and retaliation from above. 1556 01:38:32.039 --> 01:38:36.920 He then reported that information to the intelligence community Inspector General. 1557 01:38:37.600 --> 01:38:42.439 That's why he's filed this whistleblower complaint. He says that 1558 01:38:42.600 --> 01:38:46.399 experience is why he decided to go public here and 1559 01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:50.880 in a recent article written by Leslie Kane in the debrief, 1560 01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:53.079 You're not being paid for this interview. 1561 01:38:53.279 --> 01:38:54.920 Now, I'm not why are you doing this? 1562 01:38:55.239 --> 01:38:57.520 It's a sense of service, you know, call me a 1563 01:38:57.520 --> 01:38:58.960 boy scout or whatever. 1564 01:38:59.079 --> 01:39:01.640 It just a when I saw that kind of wrongdoing, 1565 01:39:01.680 --> 01:39:02.000 I did. 1566 01:39:02.319 --> 01:39:04.680 I don't want to be sixty seventy years old in 1567 01:39:04.720 --> 01:39:08.079 the future and have that you know, could have, should have, 1568 01:39:08.079 --> 01:39:11.680 would a kind of feeling where I could have made 1569 01:39:11.680 --> 01:39:14.319 a difference. I did not want to live a life 1570 01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:15.119 of regret. 1571 01:39:15.840 --> 01:39:20.199 You are saying to the Human rights For the first time, 1572 01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:25.600 an official intelligence representative at a high level from the 1573 01:39:25.720 --> 01:39:30.279 US government is saying publicly, we are not alone. 1574 01:39:30.399 --> 01:39:31.560 We're definitely not alone. 1575 01:39:31.840 --> 01:39:35.199 Absolutely, the data points empirically that we're not alone. 1576 01:39:35.239 --> 01:39:39.239 Yet empirically, you've seen that we have The United States 1577 01:39:39.439 --> 01:39:46.399 has spice craft, intect craft we do. Do we have bodies? 1578 01:39:46.640 --> 01:39:48.479 Do we have species? 1579 01:39:49.079 --> 01:39:53.359 Well, naturally, when you recover something that's either landed or crashed, 1580 01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:58.800 sometimes you encounter dead pilots. And I believe it or not, 1581 01:39:58.920 --> 01:40:03.640 as as fantas has to cause that sounds it's true. 1582 01:40:04.159 --> 01:40:05.800 Have you seen spacecraft. 1583 01:40:06.319 --> 01:40:08.439 I've seen some interesting photos and I've read some very 1584 01:40:08.479 --> 01:40:09.439 interesting reports. 1585 01:40:09.600 --> 01:40:13.760 But he says the specific documents and photos that would 1586 01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:18.840 prove his claims are still classified and he cannot disclose them. 1587 01:40:18.880 --> 01:40:20.079 Here, let's deal with. 1588 01:40:20.039 --> 01:40:25.279 The issue of your credibility. Why should we believe you. 1589 01:40:25.279 --> 01:40:29.199 You're just somebody coming out of nowhere making claims that 1590 01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:32.039 we really ultimately can't prove. 1591 01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:36.840 Yeah, well, we provided the proof internally to the Inspector 1592 01:40:36.880 --> 01:40:39.800 General in the Health Staff and when all the details, 1593 01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:43.840 I mean, I have the credentials. I was an intelligence 1594 01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:45.960 officer on the EP Task Force. 1595 01:40:46.239 --> 01:40:50.399 But let's face it, allegations of aliens and their spacecraft 1596 01:40:50.600 --> 01:40:52.159 are hard to accept. 1597 01:40:52.600 --> 01:40:56.920 Even I think that's pretty good for in terms of 1598 01:40:57.039 --> 01:41:04.600 discussion points. So let's go from there. Team, Let's start 1599 01:41:04.640 --> 01:41:06.319 with debs. 1600 01:41:06.880 --> 01:41:09.439 Okay, So I just want to say I think it's 1601 01:41:09.479 --> 01:41:13.239 incorrect to say he was the first high ranking official. 1602 01:41:13.800 --> 01:41:17.640 It's actually been many high ranking officials at this point, 1603 01:41:19.039 --> 01:41:22.960 and prior to him as well. Obviously we have presidents 1604 01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:27.359 talking about it now. But it's a little frustrating for 1605 01:41:27.520 --> 01:41:29.840 Ross to say something like that. I feel like sometimes 1606 01:41:29.880 --> 01:41:32.359 people need to do a little bit of research, Like 1607 01:41:32.399 --> 01:41:37.000 he could have asked Rush about those previous testimonials maybe, 1608 01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:40.199 and that would have been beneficial. But yes, of course, 1609 01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:45.399 you know, it's very helpful to have him come forward 1610 01:41:45.640 --> 01:41:51.279 and bravely tell everyone what he knows. I can't disagree 1611 01:41:51.520 --> 01:41:56.720 with his assessment. He is also being very careful with 1612 01:41:56.800 --> 01:42:00.000 his wording and saying that he's not sure where they're from, 1613 01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:03.359 and I appreciate that because. 1614 01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:07.479 He's probably not sure where they're and probably nobody is 1615 01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:11.600 potentially Boston, Bia. How did that interview strike you? What 1616 01:42:11.920 --> 01:42:13.479 are your thoughts coming out out of that? 1617 01:42:15.600 --> 01:42:20.079 I definitely think the fact that, I mean, he looks credible, 1618 01:42:20.479 --> 01:42:24.640 the way he speaks, you know, show you feel like 1619 01:42:24.840 --> 01:42:28.159 you can totally feel that he's trying to be as 1620 01:42:28.199 --> 01:42:30.680 truthful and give as much information. The fact that he's 1621 01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:33.479 saying he doesn't want to live with regret that he 1622 01:42:33.520 --> 01:42:35.439 didn't put it out there, the fact that he was 1623 01:42:35.479 --> 01:42:38.199 willing to risk at all, and when he started asking them, 1624 01:42:38.319 --> 01:42:40.720 even though he was put on this task force, when 1625 01:42:40.720 --> 01:42:43.760 he started asking some tough questions, that's when they started 1626 01:42:43.760 --> 01:42:46.880 shutting him out. And I don't think he would risk 1627 01:42:48.159 --> 01:42:51.159 his career to just come out and you know, just. 1628 01:42:52.960 --> 01:42:54.119 Stay all these things. 1629 01:42:54.560 --> 01:42:59.319 And now you have now fast forward where our current 1630 01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:03.159 administration and is admitting to these to having these things. 1631 01:43:03.199 --> 01:43:06.680 So obviously, I think this is good for him because 1632 01:43:06.760 --> 01:43:10.800 I think we can see that what he has been saying, 1633 01:43:11.039 --> 01:43:13.800 we validated some of that information, you know, like. 1634 01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:15.000 The trust three years ago. 1635 01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:18.720 Yeah, and now here we are three years later and 1636 01:43:19.840 --> 01:43:24.119 our administration is confirming this information. So I give him 1637 01:43:24.319 --> 01:43:28.439 lots of props for coming out and speaking his truth. 1638 01:43:28.640 --> 01:43:34.119 So just real briefly, how did it make you feel? 1639 01:43:34.159 --> 01:43:35.960 What his words, what he said. 1640 01:43:37.119 --> 01:43:41.119 It definitely resonated, He's that's what me And like you 1641 01:43:41.159 --> 01:43:44.039 can tell how his credibility. 1642 01:43:43.840 --> 01:43:45.520 I mean, how did it make you feel. 1643 01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:53.039 Like do I believe him or not? 1644 01:43:53.560 --> 01:43:56.680 Or like how do you feel like? Okay, Like for me, 1645 01:43:56.960 --> 01:43:59.680 the way I would answer our question, it kind of 1646 01:43:59.840 --> 01:44:02.600 like it kind of gives me this shock, this kind 1647 01:44:02.600 --> 01:44:06.000 of wow, you know, listening to him talk and reveal 1648 01:44:06.079 --> 01:44:08.520 the things that he's revealed, knowing what he knows. So 1649 01:44:08.600 --> 01:44:10.840 that's kind of how I feel. I'm just I always 1650 01:44:10.880 --> 01:44:13.239 ask people how did that make you feel? So that 1651 01:44:13.680 --> 01:44:15.520 I'll ask the others that question as well. 1652 01:44:16.800 --> 01:44:20.399 Yeah, I mean, I think it definitely made me feel 1653 01:44:20.840 --> 01:44:23.880 like we're not in any imminent danger, but. 1654 01:44:24.119 --> 01:44:26.479 The fact that it made me feel like. 1655 01:44:28.520 --> 01:44:31.800 It's incredible what we don't know, and obviously, like you're 1656 01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:34.520 talking about your box, like we need to think outside 1657 01:44:34.560 --> 01:44:36.840 the box because there is. We have to be open 1658 01:44:36.880 --> 01:44:39.479 to what we don't know, or we should be anyway, 1659 01:44:40.279 --> 01:44:43.680 because there is. We still have a lot to learn 1660 01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:46.840 and we still you know, and that's part of growth. 1661 01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:49.199 So I'm all. 1662 01:44:49.039 --> 01:44:53.079 For it for doctor Tim. Let's go this one real quick. 1663 01:44:56.680 --> 01:45:00.600 I mean, how much of this stuff, you know, the 1664 01:45:00.600 --> 01:45:04.439 the mystical stuff, do you attribute to. 1665 01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:12.000 Just screen understand, yes, scientifically. 1666 01:45:12.760 --> 01:45:14.159 One hundred. 1667 01:45:14.359 --> 01:45:17.319 I was going to say, do you think there's anything 1668 01:45:17.399 --> 01:45:17.800 out there? 1669 01:45:17.800 --> 01:45:21.479 I mean, it's such a hard concept to even grasp, 1670 01:45:21.560 --> 01:45:28.159 but the idea that there are things that defy all explanations, 1671 01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:33.079 even beyond our own comprehensions or whatever, there's actually something 1672 01:45:33.760 --> 01:45:37.600 truly mystical out there or is it just stuff that 1673 01:45:38.079 --> 01:45:41.640 we don't have the right sensory organs or we don't 1674 01:45:41.680 --> 01:45:44.079 have the right tools of measurement to understand it. 1675 01:45:44.119 --> 01:45:46.920 At this point, both. 1676 01:45:48.840 --> 01:45:52.079 Both and you're going to get that answer to a 1677 01:45:52.119 --> 01:45:59.279 lot of questions tonight. Both we don't understand anything. See, 1678 01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:03.159 that's this is things at the core of it. We 1679 01:46:03.439 --> 01:46:08.880 don't understand anything. Now we know how some things work, 1680 01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:15.359 but do we understand it understanding and being able to 1681 01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:17.760 I don't know how combustion engine works, but I can 1682 01:46:17.840 --> 01:46:22.319 drive a car. Yeah you know, I don't. I could 1683 01:46:22.359 --> 01:46:25.239 not build a computer. I don't really know how computer works, 1684 01:46:25.279 --> 01:46:27.079 but I use them all the time. 1685 01:46:28.520 --> 01:46:33.520 So it's kind of like that. Our our very physical sciences. 1686 01:46:33.119 --> 01:46:37.319 Our Newtonian physics, clearly is just missing a piece of 1687 01:46:37.359 --> 01:46:42.079 the equation. There's something that it just has not factored 1688 01:46:42.199 --> 01:46:45.479 in yet, which I suspect is consciousness. 1689 01:46:46.720 --> 01:46:50.640 That's underpinning the whole thing. So is there something out there? 1690 01:46:51.640 --> 01:46:55.920 Clearly there is, Do we have any inkling what it is? 1691 01:46:56.000 --> 01:46:56.760 Or have we ever? 1692 01:46:57.039 --> 01:46:57.720 Probably not? 1693 01:46:58.239 --> 01:46:59.279 Can we even know? 1694 01:47:00.239 --> 01:47:01.159 I don't know. 1695 01:47:02.520 --> 01:47:07.439 I mean we're limited by primate brains, and even though 1696 01:47:07.479 --> 01:47:10.960 we have a very advanced and highly evolved primate brain, 1697 01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:17.600 that is a physical construct within a physical theming setting, 1698 01:47:18.640 --> 01:47:20.479 and so there are going to be things. 1699 01:47:20.239 --> 01:47:23.119 That we may never be able to grasp as long 1700 01:47:23.159 --> 01:47:25.159 as we are in that physical life. 1701 01:47:25.159 --> 01:47:29.960 I think we're having some technically difficulties. 1702 01:47:29.399 --> 01:47:34.840 Are we No, We're good. Okay, that was not me speaking, 1703 01:47:35.239 --> 01:47:37.680 That was somebody more intelligent than I. 1704 01:47:38.600 --> 01:47:41.239 Jules is asking who it was that Steve. 1705 01:47:41.720 --> 01:47:44.640 Okay, So Steve did not identify himself. He was on 1706 01:47:44.680 --> 01:47:48.840 with our friend Matt Knapp of Bigfoot Crossroads. Tim knows him, 1707 01:47:49.720 --> 01:47:52.560 Bia knows him, Kashi knows him, and Deb knows him. 1708 01:47:53.159 --> 01:47:57.359 Uh and uh Man. Matt is a great interviewer. I've 1709 01:47:57.399 --> 01:47:59.680 said that a gazillion times. I'll probably say to a 1710 01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:03.680 gazillion more times. And Steve was brilliant. This is a 1711 01:48:03.720 --> 01:48:07.520 Hall of Fame level discussion that they had. Parts of 1712 01:48:07.560 --> 01:48:13.520 that discussion will remain in my library probably forever. Let's 1713 01:48:13.600 --> 01:48:18.319 go with the Kashi David Grush, and then I'm going 1714 01:48:18.359 --> 01:48:20.840 to get him to react to both, because you reacted 1715 01:48:20.880 --> 01:48:23.680 to this last week. But David Grush, how did that 1716 01:48:23.720 --> 01:48:24.439 make you feel? 1717 01:48:26.399 --> 01:48:26.680 Number? 1718 01:48:26.720 --> 01:48:26.880 One? 1719 01:48:26.920 --> 01:48:31.319 Home made me feel disappointed, disappointed that he had to 1720 01:48:31.359 --> 01:48:33.520 go through what he had to go through just to 1721 01:48:33.640 --> 01:48:37.880 speak up the fact that, you know, I'm not included. 1722 01:48:37.960 --> 01:48:40.520 There was all the beatings that he had to take, 1723 01:48:40.680 --> 01:48:43.560 you know, this personal life, and I mean we saw 1724 01:48:43.600 --> 01:48:46.800 it all play out on X and it was just horrifying. 1725 01:48:47.399 --> 01:48:50.960 It was just terrible. So I'm disappointed in our leadership 1726 01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:52.800 that put him there to begin with to have to 1727 01:48:52.840 --> 01:48:55.720 do that. But what they'd resonate big time with me. 1728 01:48:55.960 --> 01:48:58.439 That really kind of went with the discussion we were having. 1729 01:48:58.520 --> 01:49:05.000 Is the whole multi dimensional interdimensional as we're talking about Bigfoot, 1730 01:49:05.039 --> 01:49:07.640 And that's definitely how I think about Bigfoot. You know, 1731 01:49:07.680 --> 01:49:10.520 it's like somehow the ability and I don't know if 1732 01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:13.000 it has the ability. He just happens to come and go. 1733 01:49:13.520 --> 01:49:15.880 You know, it goes with the flow. You know, maybe 1734 01:49:15.880 --> 01:49:18.199 he doesn't mean to come in and out. But also 1735 01:49:18.319 --> 01:49:23.640 his stressing Nhi that it's not necessarily about location, that 1736 01:49:23.840 --> 01:49:27.720 always makes me think USO is in underwater. You know, 1737 01:49:27.840 --> 01:49:32.079 he is telling us what's going on without really saying it, 1738 01:49:32.399 --> 01:49:36.560 in my opinion, so he's leaving us a lot of breadcrumbs. Yeah, 1739 01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:39.920 it got total respect for the man. Total respect for 1740 01:49:39.960 --> 01:49:40.279 the man. 1741 01:49:40.560 --> 01:49:47.640 Me too, as they say in Portuguese. Respect respect ahead, ruthy. 1742 01:49:51.720 --> 01:50:00.119 Okay. Though, with anybody that tries to come out to 1743 01:50:00.239 --> 01:50:04.600 tell us the truth, either we take it or we don't. Right, 1744 01:50:05.399 --> 01:50:09.520 some people will say this person is crazy, this person 1745 01:50:09.680 --> 01:50:13.640 is a fake. There's been a lot of people like 1746 01:50:14.479 --> 01:50:20.039 Louis Anders Sander. I think I'm saying his name wrong. Yes, 1747 01:50:20.760 --> 01:50:23.159 So there's all of them. They come out and tell 1748 01:50:23.239 --> 01:50:28.600 us what they what they've seen, what they experienced, and 1749 01:50:28.840 --> 01:50:34.439 most people don't believe it until it freaking happens. And 1750 01:50:34.680 --> 01:50:41.039 with with what's his name Shaw, the most recent. 1751 01:50:42.960 --> 01:50:48.800 Yes, so you're talking about the one that just came out. 1752 01:50:49.039 --> 01:50:58.920 Oh my god, when they did the the UFO thing 1753 01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:00.399 with the Supreme Court. 1754 01:51:00.520 --> 01:51:04.880 I think it was the youngest guy. You were just 1755 01:51:04.960 --> 01:51:09.960 talking about him. We're just talking about him. So even 1756 01:51:10.159 --> 01:51:13.239 he tells us what's going on, and people don't want 1757 01:51:13.279 --> 01:51:17.479 to believe he's seen all these things, and there's people 1758 01:51:17.520 --> 01:51:21.920 that told him certain things that we cannot know. And 1759 01:51:23.439 --> 01:51:29.640 it's in our faces, just like when it comes to 1760 01:51:29.800 --> 01:51:32.840 like the Bigfoot stuff, it's in our faces. If we 1761 01:51:32.880 --> 01:51:36.600 don't want to believe it. We don't want we don't 1762 01:51:36.600 --> 01:51:38.520 want to believe it, but people are telling us and 1763 01:51:38.600 --> 01:51:39.279 letting us know. 1764 01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:44.920 Yeah, I mean ten thousand people that have made these 1765 01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:49.359 reports or so can't be lying. Nope, even only one 1766 01:51:49.399 --> 01:51:51.760 of them has to be right. In the nineteen sixty 1767 01:51:51.800 --> 01:51:56.840 seven film Still Stanza's Unrefuted and they played some video 1768 01:51:56.880 --> 01:51:59.640 at the Austin Film Festival. All this is gonna come out, 1769 01:52:00.039 --> 01:52:02.960 It's gonna debunk the Patterson gimblin film how many months ago? 1770 01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:05.840 Wus that be a we haven't. We're still waiting. We 1771 01:52:05.880 --> 01:52:09.560 can do like the whole Cogan here, still waiting, still waiting. 1772 01:52:10.039 --> 01:52:14.680 Cannot debunk that film. You cannot do it. You cannot 1773 01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:18.239 do it. That is a creature walking across a fucking 1774 01:52:18.319 --> 01:52:19.760 sandbar in nineties. 1775 01:52:19.479 --> 01:52:22.680 And it's been here for thousands of years. People have 1776 01:52:22.760 --> 01:52:25.399 been talking about it for thousands of years. 1777 01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:29.159 Definitely, But I'm just talking about that film. It was 1778 01:52:29.239 --> 01:52:34.079 shot on sixteen millimeter films fifty nine years ago. Well 1779 01:52:34.159 --> 01:52:37.279 October will be fifty nine years ago. You couldn't have 1780 01:52:37.319 --> 01:52:40.399 faked it. I'm sorry, kids, you could not have faked that. 1781 01:52:40.479 --> 01:52:42.119 A guy in the suit is not gonna look like that. 1782 01:52:42.800 --> 01:52:45.439 And the way she looks up at the camera, you know, 1783 01:52:45.560 --> 01:52:48.239 the fact that it's sensed that it was being watched. 1784 01:52:48.399 --> 01:52:51.479 I mean, Benny, I'll send it to you. It's the 1785 01:52:51.520 --> 01:52:54.680 Patterson Gimlin film. If you want to look on YouTube, 1786 01:52:54.720 --> 01:52:59.600 there's a four K version of it. Doctor Tim your 1787 01:52:59.720 --> 01:53:02.199 thought and come off mute now, because you're about to 1788 01:53:02.199 --> 01:53:06.960 talk your thoughts on what David Grush had to say. 1789 01:53:07.039 --> 01:53:10.720 How did that make you feel? What are your thoughts? 1790 01:53:11.159 --> 01:53:12.920 Well, First of all, I got to show off one 1791 01:53:12.920 --> 01:53:15.039 of my private positions here real quick. 1792 01:53:15.359 --> 01:53:17.239 It is. 1793 01:53:19.359 --> 01:53:19.720 Screen. 1794 01:53:20.520 --> 01:53:23.079 Yeah, I'm going to give me a sec there, there 1795 01:53:23.119 --> 01:53:24.720 we go. Let's go to doctor. 1796 01:53:24.479 --> 01:53:26.000 Tim and that's beautiful. 1797 01:53:27.039 --> 01:53:28.479 There is this. 1798 01:53:28.680 --> 01:53:29.560 Pisses me off? 1799 01:53:29.560 --> 01:53:35.399 This who's our camera man? Get that intern spotlight? 1800 01:53:37.039 --> 01:53:39.399 Yeah, that's what I need, all right. 1801 01:53:39.359 --> 01:53:42.560 So here's my petty. This is signed as you say 1802 01:53:42.640 --> 01:53:44.439 down here by Gimling. 1803 01:53:45.920 --> 01:53:48.920 Wow Wow Tim. 1804 01:53:49.319 --> 01:53:54.279 Bob Roger died a long time ago, a long time ago. 1805 01:53:54.319 --> 01:53:56.960 But Bob is Bob is Bob I heard is not 1806 01:53:57.039 --> 01:53:59.600 doing well, but he's still out there. You can see 1807 01:53:59.600 --> 01:54:02.800 the man. Even in this photograph right here. You can 1808 01:54:02.800 --> 01:54:08.039 see it's a girl and I'm sorry nobody, And look 1809 01:54:08.039 --> 01:54:12.239 how long her arms are. Nobody is going to make 1810 01:54:12.359 --> 01:54:16.920 a monster suit. That's a girl, and especially in nineteen 1811 01:54:17.000 --> 01:54:20.920 sixty seven, that wasn't gonna happen, right harah, Sorry guys, 1812 01:54:21.359 --> 01:54:22.359 there she is Now. 1813 01:54:23.199 --> 01:54:26.880 I can't disagree with that, but I will say that, 1814 01:54:27.439 --> 01:54:29.920 you know what, no matter what the truth of the 1815 01:54:29.960 --> 01:54:34.000 Patterson Gemlin film is, it doesn't take away from the 1816 01:54:34.039 --> 01:54:39.359 reality of Bigfoot itself. So I do caution people and 1817 01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:43.079 being you know, connecting them too much. But it happens 1818 01:54:43.079 --> 01:54:47.279 sometimes in ufology, right like that there are fake things 1819 01:54:47.319 --> 01:54:50.960 out there in ufology, and sometimes if people put too 1820 01:54:51.039 --> 01:54:54.039 much stocking into any one thing, then they end up 1821 01:54:54.039 --> 01:54:57.119 getting disappointed and it kind of ruins the whole topic 1822 01:54:57.199 --> 01:55:00.199 for them. And I think ufology has been around or 1823 01:55:00.640 --> 01:55:04.079 the entire existence of community, just like Bigfoot. And so 1824 01:55:04.199 --> 01:55:08.079 the Patty Patty is complicated. Maybe we can talk more 1825 01:55:08.079 --> 01:55:12.760 about Patty one night. But onto what DJ was asking, 1826 01:55:12.960 --> 01:55:14.720 I want to follow with a cost you real quick. 1827 01:55:14.800 --> 01:55:19.159 She brought up you us O S so unidentified sub 1828 01:55:19.199 --> 01:55:23.439 merged objects. I had the pleasure of speaking with Kevin 1829 01:55:23.479 --> 01:55:27.720 Kanooth and he's he was addressing the Arrow report, and 1830 01:55:27.760 --> 01:55:29.760 he said that, you know, his work with U A 1831 01:55:29.880 --> 01:55:35.479 p X. Their findings were presented to Arrow. He made 1832 01:55:35.479 --> 01:55:37.840 a point of saying that because essentially Arrow lied in 1833 01:55:37.880 --> 01:55:40.520 their first historical report when they said the Arrow had 1834 01:55:40.560 --> 01:55:45.560 not received any scientific academic briefings, But that was a lie. 1835 01:55:45.720 --> 01:55:48.079 U a p X had briefed Arrow, and he said 1836 01:55:48.079 --> 01:55:52.039 he they had briefed every three letter agency and the 1837 01:55:52.199 --> 01:55:56.039 one question that they all asked U a p X 1838 01:55:56.920 --> 01:56:03.199 was what are your capabilities of detecting UAPs underwater? That's 1839 01:56:03.239 --> 01:56:06.159 the one thing they all ask them. 1840 01:56:06.279 --> 01:56:06.560 Now. 1841 01:56:06.760 --> 01:56:14.680 Interesting, yes, very very interesting. That interview that DJ played, 1842 01:56:15.800 --> 01:56:18.439 the guy brought up consciousness. I had the pleasure of 1843 01:56:18.439 --> 01:56:22.840 speaking recently with Italian astrophysicists massy Mo Tia Dorani, and 1844 01:56:22.880 --> 01:56:24.560 I asked him, you know, what do you think the 1845 01:56:24.600 --> 01:56:28.079 next breakthrough could be? And by the way, Massewmo he's 1846 01:56:28.119 --> 01:56:31.039 an expert in the Hesteline lights. If you're not familiar 1847 01:56:31.079 --> 01:56:34.520 with those, google those. But he actually and I had 1848 01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:37.359 been wondering this because I'm right down the road in 1849 01:56:37.439 --> 01:56:40.159 west from western North Carolina where we have something called 1850 01:56:40.199 --> 01:56:45.079 the Brown Mountain lights, and Massimo was familiar with the 1851 01:56:45.119 --> 01:56:48.600 Brown Mounta lights and he does believe that the phenomenon 1852 01:56:48.680 --> 01:56:52.279 that is the Histelin lights could be associated with the 1853 01:56:52.319 --> 01:56:55.000 Brown mount lights, like they could be the same type 1854 01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:59.880 of phenomenon. But Massimo said that people might think he's crazy, 1855 01:57:00.880 --> 01:57:05.600 but he thinks the next breakthrough could be the potential 1856 01:57:05.760 --> 01:57:10.000 discovery that consciousness is a fundamental force of the universe, 1857 01:57:10.159 --> 01:57:14.680 no different than gravity. And I was just like, WHOA, 1858 01:57:16.319 --> 01:57:18.560 that's heavy. That's heavy right there. 1859 01:57:19.039 --> 01:57:19.319 Now. 1860 01:57:19.640 --> 01:57:22.159 That's also really hard to process because. 1861 01:57:23.560 --> 01:57:24.319 It does. 1862 01:57:25.880 --> 01:57:30.960 Put humans in sort of a central role in the 1863 01:57:31.079 --> 01:57:32.800 universe if you think about it. 1864 01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:35.800 Timmy, let me ask you a question on this topic 1865 01:57:35.840 --> 01:57:39.199 on consciousness. Yes, you would you agree that if you 1866 01:57:39.560 --> 01:57:44.039 died tomorrow, your consciousness would your body would just be 1867 01:57:44.159 --> 01:57:47.680 the you know, the shell, and your consciousness would would 1868 01:57:47.800 --> 01:57:53.239 move on to a different a different plane of existence set. 1869 01:57:53.359 --> 01:57:55.560 Would you agree with that? Or you think your consciousness 1870 01:57:55.600 --> 01:57:56.600 dies when you die? 1871 01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:02.560 Well, I mean I think that's a definition situation too, 1872 01:58:02.600 --> 01:58:04.760 because we have this term called soul. 1873 01:58:05.880 --> 01:58:08.279 Yeah, whatever you want to call it, Well, but are you? 1874 01:58:08.439 --> 01:58:11.000 Are you calling it the same thing is soul? And 1875 01:58:11.840 --> 01:58:13.479 what about the rest of the planet. Y'all better help 1876 01:58:13.520 --> 01:58:16.880 me out here, right, because his soul and consciousness the 1877 01:58:16.920 --> 01:58:17.439 same thing. 1878 01:58:18.079 --> 01:58:20.920 Well, let's call for just for the sake of this discussion, 1879 01:58:21.479 --> 01:58:25.520 because Donald Hoffman is not sitting here from the University 1880 01:58:25.560 --> 01:58:28.760 of calat or Vine for this discussion. Let's call it 1881 01:58:28.760 --> 01:58:31.960 the scene that your soul that is part is some 1882 01:58:32.239 --> 01:58:34.800 intertwined in your consciousness. Is that fair? 1883 01:58:35.960 --> 01:58:37.920 Well, I'll just stick with soul and say I do 1884 01:58:38.039 --> 01:58:41.880 believe my soul will carry on, okay, the death of 1885 01:58:41.920 --> 01:58:45.399 my body. I'm I'm not going to intertwine consciousness. That's 1886 01:58:45.680 --> 01:58:48.119 I'm not prepared to that at the moment. 1887 01:58:49.039 --> 01:58:52.880 How would you define how would you define the two 1888 01:58:52.920 --> 01:58:56.319 of them? Or what do you see as? And anybody 1889 01:58:56.359 --> 01:58:58.680 on the panel just chime in with this, go ahead 1890 01:58:58.720 --> 01:59:02.039 and jump in. And how is your soul different than 1891 01:59:02.039 --> 01:59:05.119 your consciousness on this? Please? 1892 01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:10.119 So when you talk to people about their experiences with 1893 01:59:10.319 --> 01:59:16.279 light beings or their experience with death experiences, they often 1894 01:59:16.399 --> 01:59:21.800 talk about, you're much broader when you have died. So 1895 01:59:22.000 --> 01:59:26.399 consciousness is almost like a very narrow version of what 1896 01:59:26.479 --> 01:59:29.880 we actually are. It's what we use is to state 1897 01:59:29.880 --> 01:59:32.680 it ourselves when we're in the show, But when we 1898 01:59:33.039 --> 01:59:37.279 have died, it be gets it gets much bigger, like 1899 01:59:37.359 --> 01:59:41.159 we can handle a lot more. Our soul is much broader. 1900 01:59:41.640 --> 01:59:47.079 So our soul, you're saying, is broader than our consciousness. Yes, 1901 01:59:48.600 --> 01:59:52.079 okay Akashi, Yeah. 1902 01:59:52.920 --> 01:59:55.119 You know you think you can go all over the 1903 01:59:55.159 --> 01:59:56.039 place on this one. 1904 01:59:56.079 --> 01:59:59.560 But I'm thinking, you know, I always thought of consciousness 1905 01:59:59.560 --> 02:00:07.039 being more of the the awareness of what's out there like that, 1906 02:00:07.520 --> 02:00:11.560 whether it's a very narrow awareness or an expanded consciousness. 1907 02:00:12.119 --> 02:00:15.880 The situation your soul to me as my ess what 1908 02:00:16.159 --> 02:00:19.600 makes me me? It connects me to my higher self, 1909 02:00:19.720 --> 02:00:22.520 you know, so I start thinking about you know, higher 1910 02:00:22.640 --> 02:00:24.760 self and how it comes into play with you know, 1911 02:00:24.880 --> 02:00:28.000 who I am inside at this moment. You know, I 1912 02:00:28.039 --> 02:00:31.199 am definitely one that says energy does not die, It 1913 02:00:31.319 --> 02:00:35.159 just transfers. You know how I feel about reincarnation, you know, 1914 02:00:35.239 --> 02:00:39.479 and that whole you know, your ability to choose your adventure. 1915 02:00:39.760 --> 02:00:44.319 So to me, it's just two different, two different things. 1916 02:00:44.479 --> 02:00:47.239 You know, well, and what you just stated right there 1917 02:00:47.279 --> 02:00:49.520 about energy not dying, that is actually a part of 1918 02:00:49.600 --> 02:00:54.439 Newtonian physics. Ah, what's the difference between your soul and 1919 02:00:54.479 --> 02:00:59.159 your consciousness in your mind? I think because we don't, 1920 02:00:59.199 --> 02:01:00.680 let's face it, none of us, no, but. 1921 02:01:00.840 --> 02:01:01.399 One of us know. 1922 02:01:01.560 --> 02:01:06.000 Yeah, I feel like your soul and your consciousness goes 1923 02:01:06.079 --> 02:01:09.960 hand in hand. If you think of when you've gone 1924 02:01:09.960 --> 02:01:12.520 to a funeral, you can tell there's no soul, there's 1925 02:01:12.560 --> 02:01:16.640 no consciousness, there's the life has been sucked out of 1926 02:01:16.680 --> 02:01:17.239 this person. 1927 02:01:17.439 --> 02:01:19.920 So I do think they go hand in hand. 1928 02:01:20.319 --> 02:01:26.720 And you know, so I do think that it definitely 1929 02:01:26.840 --> 02:01:30.960 leaves us and you're just left with a shell. But 1930 02:01:31.079 --> 02:01:34.319 I do think it goes, it continues on in other ways. 1931 02:01:35.119 --> 02:01:36.960 I don't think that's the end of us. I think 1932 02:01:37.000 --> 02:01:39.720 we continue in some other form, some other way. But 1933 02:01:39.800 --> 02:01:41.520 I do think they kind of go hand in hand. 1934 02:01:41.640 --> 02:01:47.199 The soul, our consciousness, it's all related to us being alive. 1935 02:01:47.800 --> 02:01:54.800 So I'm with Bia on that. Let's let's go see whatbless. 1936 02:01:55.600 --> 02:02:03.960 Okay, So my take is, your consciousness is you right, 1937 02:02:04.640 --> 02:02:10.159 every thought that you ever had, every emotion, every heartbreak, 1938 02:02:10.279 --> 02:02:17.279 every happiness. But when that's gone, you have your soul, 1939 02:02:18.439 --> 02:02:22.680 And yes, it goes hand to hand. But your true sadness, 1940 02:02:22.800 --> 02:02:28.399 your true happiness, your true story, is your conscience. And 1941 02:02:28.439 --> 02:02:31.439 once that's gone, there's nothing else but. 1942 02:02:34.479 --> 02:02:37.640 With the soul. Okay, I'm gonna put Tim back in there. 1943 02:02:37.720 --> 02:02:42.039 Tim is it? So, first of all, my answer is 1944 02:02:42.079 --> 02:02:46.079 I don't know. But if I'm going to expound upon this, 1945 02:02:46.600 --> 02:02:50.520 is it possible that the consciousness is your ability to 1946 02:02:50.720 --> 02:02:59.359 connect with other people's consciousness and or other intelligent beings 1947 02:02:59.399 --> 02:03:04.079 in the universe and or something like Bigfoot and or 1948 02:03:04.199 --> 02:03:09.600 ghosts or paranormal Is it possible that that's your consciousness? 1949 02:03:09.640 --> 02:03:14.159 While what Akashi said earlier, your soul, what leaves you 1950 02:03:14.239 --> 02:03:16.760 is kind of like your imprint on the universe, what 1951 02:03:16.880 --> 02:03:20.039 you leave behind, your screen memory if you will. 1952 02:03:21.279 --> 02:03:24.399 Well, yeah, definitely and I do want to before the night, 1953 02:03:24.439 --> 02:03:26.000 so I want to chime in on the Davy Crush 1954 02:03:26.079 --> 02:03:30.439 thing please, but definitely DJ because you know, that's one 1955 02:03:30.520 --> 02:03:34.840 of the enduring mysteries of humanity. And this goes back 1956 02:03:34.880 --> 02:03:38.079 to what you were saying earlier, like hunters. And by 1957 02:03:38.119 --> 02:03:42.840 the way, this hunter gatherer instinct of humanity has been 1958 02:03:42.880 --> 02:03:45.720 around for quite in a long time. Not not just 1959 02:03:45.760 --> 02:03:49.359 a Mississippi right, not just row Missippi squirrel hunters, but 1960 02:03:49.359 --> 02:03:53.319 but for quite a long time, not just my daddy's 1961 02:03:53.319 --> 02:03:56.680 serving up squirrel brains and scrambled eggs. It's been around 1962 02:03:56.720 --> 02:03:59.800 for quite a while. Say you two tigers, you know, 1963 02:04:01.560 --> 02:04:07.760 Neanderthals anyway, But that's one of the enduring mysteries of humankind, 1964 02:04:07.880 --> 02:04:14.159 and that is this notion that we seem to have 1965 02:04:15.000 --> 02:04:22.600 a shared sense of good and right and morality that 1966 02:04:22.680 --> 02:04:28.760 you can't really explain. And it seems to be mutually 1967 02:04:28.840 --> 02:04:38.079 exclusive of religion, of ethnicity, of you know, gender, age. 1968 02:04:39.000 --> 02:04:45.640 We seem to have some sort of innate understanding of 1969 02:04:46.119 --> 02:04:51.079 what is right. And that is a mystery. And this 1970 02:04:51.159 --> 02:04:55.119 could fall into line with what you are describing as consciousness, 1971 02:04:55.119 --> 02:04:58.600 and this could be why we look through the scope 1972 02:04:58.640 --> 02:05:02.960 on a gun and see a bigfoot and we recognize, hey, 1973 02:05:03.840 --> 02:05:05.520 we don't need to harm this creature. 1974 02:05:06.520 --> 02:05:11.039 It's another human. Yeah, And I was kind of using 1975 02:05:11.119 --> 02:05:14.000 Kim to say because that there is a big hunting 1976 02:05:14.039 --> 02:05:18.239 population and that one of the archetypes among hunters is 1977 02:05:18.279 --> 02:05:22.039 simply that if you want to take something down in 1978 02:05:22.079 --> 02:05:24.960 the woods, and that's the phraseology they'll use, and you 1979 02:05:25.199 --> 02:05:28.640 have the power. Your rifle has the power to take 1980 02:05:28.680 --> 02:05:31.600 it down, and it's legal because there's certain seasons that 1981 02:05:31.640 --> 02:05:34.880 you can take down certain animals. There's there's a bow season, 1982 02:05:35.399 --> 02:05:38.800 there's even people. There's a black powder season where it's 1983 02:05:38.880 --> 02:05:41.279 very short, but the only thing you can hunt with 1984 02:05:41.399 --> 02:05:45.520 is black powder rifles. And then so what I'm getting at, 1985 02:05:45.600 --> 02:05:48.560 if there were a brown bear or grizzly, which don't 1986 02:05:48.560 --> 02:05:51.840 exist in Mississippi, and a hunter we're out there and 1987 02:05:51.880 --> 02:05:55.159 he were hunting deer, but he ran into a bear 1988 02:05:55.239 --> 02:05:57.520 and said, you know, I have the firepower to take 1989 02:05:57.560 --> 02:06:01.520 it down, they would probably take it down because either 1990 02:06:01.920 --> 02:06:06.640 again to eat or to mount. That's the way hunters think, 1991 02:06:07.439 --> 02:06:11.119 because when you have a weapon, you are the apex 1992 02:06:11.199 --> 02:06:15.520 predator in the woods. Well, hunters that have encountered sasquatch 1993 02:06:15.920 --> 02:06:19.720 have discovered that they don't feel like the apex predator 1994 02:06:19.760 --> 02:06:24.000 in the woods because now they start in Mississippi squirrel eye. 1995 02:06:24.319 --> 02:06:26.680 Well, and let's keep this in mind too, because this 1996 02:06:26.760 --> 02:06:30.840 may not be the most politically correct viewpoint of mankind, 1997 02:06:31.399 --> 02:06:35.560 of males of men and women. But then again, this 1998 02:06:35.720 --> 02:06:39.000 is also a primordial instinct. Let's not forget this, and 1999 02:06:39.159 --> 02:06:41.640 very well could be the reason we're all able to 2000 02:06:41.680 --> 02:06:45.399 sit here and be chatting tonight, because if humans did not, 2001 02:06:45.840 --> 02:06:51.840 for the vast majority of our existences, have this primordial 2002 02:06:51.920 --> 02:06:57.119 instinct to hunt food and cook it and eat it, 2003 02:06:57.399 --> 02:07:01.119 then we would probably be in trouble species, right, So 2004 02:07:01.239 --> 02:07:06.279 this is a primordial instinct. Our human bodies also are 2005 02:07:06.399 --> 02:07:11.439 uncannily good at telling ourselves, Hey, we need to stay 2006 02:07:11.479 --> 02:07:14.560 alive somehow, and our brain can do a lot of 2007 02:07:14.560 --> 02:07:16.319 crazy things to us to make that happen. 2008 02:07:17.199 --> 02:07:20.399 Yeah, we've become the dominant species on the planet. And 2009 02:07:20.479 --> 02:07:25.279 when people in the woods encounter because when you're in 2010 02:07:25.319 --> 02:07:28.119 the woods as a hunter, it's different than being a hiker. 2011 02:07:28.479 --> 02:07:30.760 When you're in the woods as a hiker, you're looking 2012 02:07:30.800 --> 02:07:34.239 to just be part of nature and exist within nature 2013 02:07:34.319 --> 02:07:37.359 and move through nature. When you're in there as a hunter, 2014 02:07:37.600 --> 02:07:40.880 you're in there to take an animal to harvest, an 2015 02:07:40.920 --> 02:07:44.199 animal with which to eat. And when you discover an 2016 02:07:44.359 --> 02:07:48.119 animal that is more you feel is more powerful, or 2017 02:07:48.159 --> 02:07:50.279 if you took a shot at it, well, there might 2018 02:07:50.319 --> 02:07:52.119 be one that comes up behind me and hits me 2019 02:07:52.119 --> 02:07:55.000 in the head with a log. And believe me, they 2020 02:07:55.000 --> 02:07:57.399 are a sasquats that have thrown logs that have whizzed 2021 02:07:57.439 --> 02:08:00.760 by people's head to land on the ground once but 2022 02:08:01.479 --> 02:08:03.479 over and over. And that's where how when they want 2023 02:08:03.520 --> 02:08:04.840 to chase people out of an area. 2024 02:08:05.359 --> 02:08:07.760 So that's go ahead, Tim, I want to tell you 2025 02:08:07.840 --> 02:08:10.840 something interesting real quick like this. I think it's fascinating 2026 02:08:10.880 --> 02:08:14.159 because this could be why we see humans acting the 2027 02:08:14.199 --> 02:08:17.800 way they are today because for the first time in 2028 02:08:17.920 --> 02:08:21.279 human history, a very interesting phenomenon is happening, and that 2029 02:08:21.439 --> 02:08:28.840 is we live our daily lives in perpetual, perpetually satiated. 2030 02:08:29.439 --> 02:08:34.359 We are never our bodies are never truly in need 2031 02:08:34.560 --> 02:08:39.520 of food. We always have an immediate source of snacks 2032 02:08:39.560 --> 02:08:42.039 of food in the pantry. And this is the vast 2033 02:08:42.079 --> 02:08:47.920 majority of the population. Mind Johnnerson. There's exceptions in the refrigerator, 2034 02:08:48.199 --> 02:08:50.479 but our bodies are now for the first time ever 2035 02:08:50.600 --> 02:08:57.680 perpetually satiated. Well, we have a lot of microorganisms in 2036 02:08:57.760 --> 02:09:02.399 our gut, in our gut file, and it's and they 2037 02:09:02.640 --> 02:09:05.439 actually are the ones that tend to live on things 2038 02:09:05.479 --> 02:09:10.119 like carbohydrates and fats. That's the majority of the American diet. 2039 02:09:10.680 --> 02:09:16.840 And these micro organisms can literally control our emotions and 2040 02:09:16.880 --> 02:09:21.399 our behaviors to put more of the food that they 2041 02:09:21.600 --> 02:09:25.960 survive on into our bodies. So that may actually be 2042 02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:28.319 the reason we act the way we do as a society. 2043 02:09:28.960 --> 02:09:31.279 Yeah, it's just they worry about whether or not they're 2044 02:09:31.279 --> 02:09:33.920 going to become conscious because they could destroy us from 2045 02:09:33.920 --> 02:09:37.039 the inside. It's true. Now a show for our next 2046 02:09:37.039 --> 02:09:39.079 conspiracy show blog. 2047 02:09:41.239 --> 02:09:43.840 Bust out of the Theater, Good One, attack the whole. 2048 02:09:43.640 --> 02:09:48.119 Town and like have you like think of it this way. 2049 02:09:48.159 --> 02:09:51.239 Sometimes you've been running around crazy, super busy, and you're like, oh, 2050 02:09:51.279 --> 02:09:53.039 I haven't eaten today, and all of a sudden, now 2051 02:09:53.079 --> 02:09:55.600 you're more hungrier than you were and if you had 2052 02:09:56.039 --> 02:09:59.239 because I think our consciousness is like you thought you 2053 02:09:59.279 --> 02:10:02.119 had the thought and now you're hungry and it's telling 2054 02:10:02.159 --> 02:10:04.399 your body, oh, you need to eat. But otherwise you 2055 02:10:04.439 --> 02:10:08.840 would have kept going in its psych yeah, so there. 2056 02:10:08.760 --> 02:10:10.920 Was almost some Brooklyn in there. There was almost like 2057 02:10:11.159 --> 02:10:12.319 he or the brunch. 2058 02:10:12.439 --> 02:10:29.680 Hey, Doctor Mounts, oh. 2059 02:10:24.640 --> 02:10:31.239 Man August first Calling All Beings episode, Just ask Nathan. 2060 02:10:32.000 --> 02:10:34.680 This was made by someone that you guys may or 2061 02:10:34.680 --> 02:10:37.760 may not have heard of named Akashi. Chris made this 2062 02:10:37.880 --> 02:10:41.439 artwork and Doctor Mounts. You'll be invited back if you 2063 02:10:41.520 --> 02:10:43.439 What we're gonna do is let people pop on for 2064 02:10:43.439 --> 02:10:47.199 a couple of minutes and ask Nathan a questions. We're 2065 02:10:47.199 --> 02:10:49.479 gonna have some special guests, so if you want to 2066 02:10:49.520 --> 02:10:51.960 be one of those, we will send you an invite. 2067 02:10:52.039 --> 02:10:56.159 You remember, Nathan, I'm sure because the first the first 2068 02:10:56.239 --> 02:10:59.880 roundtable we did with these guys was calling All being 2069 02:11:00.359 --> 02:11:03.640 and and all things unexplained? And Smithy's like, is this 2070 02:11:03.720 --> 02:11:06.720 like a gang fight? Is this like the outsider? Is 2071 02:11:06.720 --> 02:11:08.720 there some shit? It's pretty funny. 2072 02:11:10.119 --> 02:11:14.000 Anchor man when they all went to the to the fight, 2073 02:11:17.119 --> 02:11:18.520 did he kill the guy? 2074 02:11:18.760 --> 02:11:21.119 What a trident? 2075 02:11:21.239 --> 02:11:22.960 The time? It works every time. 2076 02:11:25.399 --> 02:11:29.720 Well, you know Yogi Bearra's famous he said fifty percent 2077 02:11:29.760 --> 02:11:37.199 of baseball is seventy five percent mental. So anyway, anyway, 2078 02:11:37.319 --> 02:11:39.760 it's been a great night, guys. Uh, this has been 2079 02:11:39.800 --> 02:11:42.319 a hell of a lot of fun. We'll see you 2080 02:11:42.399 --> 02:11:46.199 on August first for ask Nathan. In the offing. We 2081 02:11:46.279 --> 02:11:50.119 also have a Canadian roundtable with your co host Sati 2082 02:11:50.880 --> 02:11:53.640 uh and a bunch of other cool Canadians from from 2083 02:11:53.680 --> 02:11:57.560 the UFO and true crime space. Basically everybody there loves 2084 02:11:57.680 --> 02:12:00.399 UFOs and just you know, depending on where they're half 2085 02:12:00.439 --> 02:12:04.239 true crime and half UFOs. We have a Latina round 2086 02:12:04.239 --> 02:12:08.479 table that's coming up, hosted by Boston via Akashi, Ruthie 2087 02:12:09.000 --> 02:12:13.640 Uh and possibly one of my colleagues Lose Castile. So 2088 02:12:13.760 --> 02:12:16.159 that should be fun. A Latina round table. And there's 2089 02:12:16.159 --> 02:12:18.199 no telling what topics are going to come up there, 2090 02:12:18.439 --> 02:12:22.000 but most interesting. Uh oh, you're on mute so we 2091 02:12:22.039 --> 02:12:24.039 can't hear you. Yeah. 2092 02:12:24.239 --> 02:12:26.920 Sorry, that's probably when the Lettice talk is coming, right, 2093 02:12:26.920 --> 02:12:30.960 Are you saving it for that one? 2094 02:12:31.600 --> 02:12:33.720 That's true? Wait, there we go, I will bring the 2095 02:12:33.800 --> 02:12:40.279 Lettuce story will be coming the next the next thing 2096 02:12:42.319 --> 02:12:47.600 people to my movie night DJ. Yes, So on Friday, 2097 02:12:49.840 --> 02:12:52.840 I don't I can't put anything up on your screen. 2098 02:12:55.159 --> 02:12:56.560 I can't manage anything. 2099 02:12:56.760 --> 02:13:01.000 I don't think you can put anything in the studio. 2100 02:13:00.039 --> 02:13:04.159 Then okay, okay, well I can't think right now. But 2101 02:13:05.399 --> 02:13:08.479 so anyway, on Friday night. I will be hosting a 2102 02:13:08.680 --> 02:13:12.359 classic movie night. It is Movies from an Asylum. We'll 2103 02:13:12.359 --> 02:13:16.880 be playing nineteen thirties the Coco Nuts with the Marx 2104 02:13:16.920 --> 02:13:20.039 Brothers and we're gonna have Boston b I will be there. 2105 02:13:20.079 --> 02:13:24.880 I think Ruthie will be there and Aim. You're invited, Dubs, 2106 02:13:24.960 --> 02:13:28.279 djit if you guys would like to be live. It's 2107 02:13:28.319 --> 02:13:33.520 gonna be games, intermission, fun, commercials, and we're gonna be 2108 02:13:33.520 --> 02:13:38.319 all black and white. It's air. We're gonna be all 2109 02:13:38.359 --> 02:13:41.079 black and white man. 2110 02:13:41.159 --> 02:13:44.159 Nobody does cooler stuff than Akashi Christ It's gonna be 2111 02:13:44.199 --> 02:13:45.000 really fun. 2112 02:13:45.119 --> 02:13:47.960 I got some really fun games for intermissions. 2113 02:13:48.239 --> 02:13:51.960 So July thirty first, at what time? 2114 02:13:52.640 --> 02:13:55.319 I make sure you? I'm sorry? Thank you, six pm 2115 02:13:55.520 --> 02:14:00.199 Central Friday night. It's gonna be a party, so to 2116 02:14:00.199 --> 02:14:01.920 he're invited for the live. 2117 02:14:01.800 --> 02:14:05.279 Part Spider Man Noir. I think I'm ready for this. 2118 02:14:05.479 --> 02:14:08.640 It sent me allir sis me. 2119 02:14:09.680 --> 02:14:12.560 We will pump it out on on Twitter as well. 2120 02:14:12.720 --> 02:14:13.079 Thank you. 2121 02:14:13.399 --> 02:14:17.159 Akashi puts so much work into her broadcast. When you 2122 02:14:17.199 --> 02:14:20.920 talk about content creators, Bia and I have had some 2123 02:14:21.479 --> 02:14:24.960 discussions about content creators that are really lazy and kind 2124 02:14:25.000 --> 02:14:27.479 of just talk bad about people as they're They call 2125 02:14:27.560 --> 02:14:32.600 that content. Akasha puts so much work into her content 2126 02:14:32.760 --> 02:14:36.720 with visual and audio things and spends a week preparing 2127 02:14:36.800 --> 02:14:37.319 for a show. 2128 02:14:37.399 --> 02:14:45.439 So actually too, I'm just kidding. I want to be proud. 2129 02:14:45.680 --> 02:14:47.720 I love that you guys are like that, and you 2130 02:14:47.720 --> 02:14:49.720 guys are proud of what you put together instead of 2131 02:14:49.760 --> 02:14:51.119 I love being part of this team. 2132 02:14:51.600 --> 02:14:53.680 I don't put anywhere near the work into it that 2133 02:14:53.720 --> 02:14:57.439 you do. I'm just basically talking head. So I admire 2134 02:14:57.520 --> 02:14:59.479 that you do, and I know Tim does as well. 2135 02:14:59.680 --> 02:15:01.720 Tim is similar to you that he puts a lot 2136 02:15:01.760 --> 02:15:05.479 of into his stuff. He keeps that team going. 2137 02:15:06.119 --> 02:15:06.319 Uh. 2138 02:15:06.359 --> 02:15:08.199 He's the one who does all the work to get 2139 02:15:08.199 --> 02:15:09.279 the guests and so forth. 2140 02:15:09.359 --> 02:15:11.079 So what do you have going on next? 2141 02:15:11.119 --> 02:15:11.479 Timmy? 2142 02:15:13.000 --> 02:15:13.399 Doctor? 2143 02:15:13.479 --> 02:15:13.880 Tim? 2144 02:15:13.920 --> 02:15:20.960 Excuse me, doctor, definitely call me Tim. 2145 02:15:21.000 --> 02:15:25.960 Well, I am excited about some upcoming podcast I've got 2146 02:15:26.000 --> 02:15:29.640 coming up. Let me uh and thanks for asking. A 2147 02:15:29.720 --> 02:15:33.039 matter of fact, one I've got coming up it is 2148 02:15:33.319 --> 02:15:36.520 going to be with Let me make sure I say 2149 02:15:36.560 --> 02:15:37.000 this right. 2150 02:15:38.279 --> 02:15:40.640 Uh, I'm just kidding. 2151 02:15:41.960 --> 02:15:48.520 Legendary UFO researcher Kevin Randall some of you. 2152 02:15:48.800 --> 02:15:53.560 Oh he knows about some crash retrieval stuff. 2153 02:15:54.159 --> 02:15:56.399 Yeah, oh, Yeah, Kevin, he has a new book coming out, 2154 02:15:56.439 --> 02:15:58.319 so he's gonna be coming on All Things Unexplained that 2155 02:15:58.359 --> 02:16:00.800 will be released the same day that his new book 2156 02:16:00.840 --> 02:16:03.399 comes out, August twenty fifth. And then I'm also very 2157 02:16:03.439 --> 02:16:09.800 excited to speak to physicist Jenny Lorraine Nilsen. She is 2158 02:16:09.960 --> 02:16:14.239 pretty active on X. She has a lot of interesting 2159 02:16:14.279 --> 02:16:17.520 physics research and she's got some She's had her own 2160 02:16:17.600 --> 02:16:20.000 UFO encounter, she's got a lot of thoughts on the 2161 02:16:20.079 --> 02:16:24.479 general Neil McCaslin case, and so looking forward to that. 2162 02:16:24.479 --> 02:16:28.399 That should be quite interesting. And I continue to dig 2163 02:16:28.439 --> 02:16:34.799 into these missing persons cases Monica Resa, Neil McCaslin, Melissa Cassius. 2164 02:16:34.879 --> 02:16:41.479 Unfortunately they discovered her body, and so yeah, I continue 2165 02:16:41.520 --> 02:16:42.280 that work as well. 2166 02:16:43.319 --> 02:16:46.360 I love it, man. I'm so glad that we have 2167 02:16:46.520 --> 02:16:50.719 reconnected and we're starting to do shows together again. BA 2168 02:16:50.760 --> 02:16:53.319 and I spent the better part of two years working 2169 02:16:53.360 --> 02:16:56.079 on the Karen Reid case and now it's just in 2170 02:16:56.159 --> 02:16:59.319 civil proceedings now and fighting back and forth. So we'll 2171 02:16:59.360 --> 02:17:02.399 provide some coverage on that as as we can or 2172 02:17:02.440 --> 02:17:04.719 as we think that we can add value to it. 2173 02:17:05.120 --> 02:17:09.440 But I'm very happy to have reconnected with my Ufo 2174 02:17:09.600 --> 02:17:12.399 family and my Bigfoot family, and so you can expect 2175 02:17:13.200 --> 02:17:17.159 more content like this where we debate consciousness and the soul. 2176 02:17:18.239 --> 02:17:26.879 May I interrupt? Okay, mister, I've been holding back this 2177 02:17:26.959 --> 02:17:31.280 whole time. Have you ever heard of Martin the Water Simolier, 2178 02:17:33.040 --> 02:17:39.079 No detail, Martin the Water Simolier. I don't know why, 2179 02:17:39.159 --> 02:17:40.760 but he reminds me of you. 2180 02:17:43.079 --> 02:17:44.840 We're gonna have to look that up. 2181 02:17:45.399 --> 02:17:53.680 Wrote that up. Martin the Water Smolier. Okay, you guys 2182 02:17:53.840 --> 02:17:58.280 have the same vibe. Beautiful skin. I love it. 2183 02:18:00.079 --> 02:18:00.239 Well. 2184 02:18:00.239 --> 02:18:02.000 I have been moisturizing, so. 2185 02:18:02.319 --> 02:18:03.920 Yeah, we water. 2186 02:18:06.479 --> 02:18:10.159 Look his forehead, it's so smooth. 2187 02:18:12.319 --> 02:18:16.280 And I did just visit Saint Augustine, Florida. The found 2188 02:18:16.360 --> 02:18:19.360 literally the yes, yep, he. 2189 02:18:19.399 --> 02:18:20.440 Thinks about that too. 2190 02:18:22.680 --> 02:18:27.360 He tells you there, Martin the Water Somonia tells you 2191 02:18:27.440 --> 02:18:32.000 what water to drink, what's not good for you hydration? 2192 02:18:32.479 --> 02:18:38.680 And you are his brother. Well thanks, and it's amazing 2193 02:18:38.879 --> 02:18:39.639 and beautiful. 2194 02:18:40.040 --> 02:18:44.360 Well, thank you, I'm beautiful. Sixty four ounces of water 2195 02:18:44.559 --> 02:18:47.920 a day followed by ten ounces of smoky mountain squat shun. 2196 02:18:48.079 --> 02:18:54.280 And that's what you can take the boy out of Mississippi. 2197 02:18:54.280 --> 02:18:56.760 But you can't take the boy. 2198 02:18:56.719 --> 02:18:59.920 Lots of water and moonshine. 2199 02:18:59.440 --> 02:19:01.680 Yes out to my friend and check him out it, 2200 02:19:01.799 --> 02:19:04.479 but drink responsibly smoking. 2201 02:19:07.760 --> 02:19:13.840 Because I'm beautiful. Martin Martins from Germany. 2202 02:19:15.399 --> 02:19:18.879 Germany. You can you can. Here's it, insider. You can 2203 02:19:18.879 --> 02:19:27.799 also run your vehicle on this if you. 2204 02:19:26.000 --> 02:19:30.280 Secret inventions, that's the secret inventions file. 2205 02:19:30.760 --> 02:19:34.239 That's why you don't tell them. Timmy, why do you 2206 02:19:34.239 --> 02:19:35.879 think they had a bootleg this stuff? 2207 02:19:37.000 --> 02:19:40.920 You guys are so you guys are so hilarious. I 2208 02:19:40.920 --> 02:19:42.959 love the way these shows have been ending. It's either 2209 02:19:43.280 --> 02:19:48.959 Akashi's only fans are now tim with beautiful skin, I'm having. 2210 02:19:48.719 --> 02:19:52.479 Only fans cow it's a joke. People. 2211 02:19:52.920 --> 02:19:55.719 Wait a minute, let me get that jpeg up on there. 2212 02:19:57.799 --> 02:19:59.879 I believe my. 2213 02:20:02.559 --> 02:20:13.920 I believe only all right, guys, we got to cut 2214 02:20:13.920 --> 02:20:16.239 it off before somebody gets in trouble and it's probably 2215 02:20:16.280 --> 02:20:25.959 gonna be this uh, thank you, roundtable members. Boston bea Ruthie. 2216 02:20:28.879 --> 02:20:29.040 Track. 2217 02:20:29.159 --> 02:20:31.440 I'm from some I would cue some banjos right now. 2218 02:20:33.520 --> 02:20:34.520 No, no, no. 2219 02:20:36.600 --> 02:20:38.760 I had a couple of times I wanted to say. 2220 02:20:38.840 --> 02:20:42.719 Yes, the show go ahead. 2221 02:20:43.120 --> 02:20:45.959 First of all, we're sinked again because I have a 2222 02:20:46.079 --> 02:20:51.520 noir video coming out tomorrow on Dreams Generator a Frank Sinatra. 2223 02:20:53.680 --> 02:20:57.239 We're entangled, you not, We're entangled. We're all entangled in 2224 02:20:57.280 --> 02:20:57.719 this group. 2225 02:20:58.079 --> 02:21:01.280 And then the real quick question I had you can 2226 02:21:01.319 --> 02:21:04.879 answer yesterday, not because we're wrapping up for Tim earlier, 2227 02:21:05.479 --> 02:21:08.920 was do you think that they sensed the eruption ahead 2228 02:21:08.920 --> 02:21:09.280 of time? 2229 02:21:11.360 --> 02:21:13.079 I don't know how to answer that. 2230 02:21:14.319 --> 02:21:16.479 I mean it, you know, I mean you would. 2231 02:21:16.280 --> 02:21:18.719 Have I'm sorry, after Joel's posted. 2232 02:21:21.319 --> 02:21:24.000 The doctor Doctor, Tim's only fan that could be in 2233 02:21:24.000 --> 02:21:29.040 the offing. I mean you you would You would have 2234 02:21:29.120 --> 02:21:32.520 to think that as in tune to the forest as 2235 02:21:32.559 --> 02:21:34.559 they are. I mean, how could they not? You know 2236 02:21:34.600 --> 02:21:36.479 what I mean? I mean it only it makes sense 2237 02:21:36.559 --> 02:21:39.399 that they would would have sensed that something was about 2238 02:21:39.440 --> 02:21:43.120 to happen. And it's probably very terrifying because it's the 2239 02:21:43.200 --> 02:21:45.799 ecosystem that they live in, so it's pretty scary. 2240 02:21:46.280 --> 02:21:50.200 That's a great question, and you know what, it could 2241 02:21:50.239 --> 02:21:53.520 explain why maybe a lot of them did managed to 2242 02:21:53.680 --> 02:21:57.559 escape hopefully. And yeah, and the only fans thing. You know, 2243 02:21:57.680 --> 02:22:01.079 you know what they say about people big with big feet, 2244 02:22:01.120 --> 02:22:02.799 don't you. 2245 02:22:04.760 --> 02:22:06.520 I'm not sure? I want to go ahead? What are. 2246 02:22:09.639 --> 02:22:09.959 They wear? 2247 02:22:10.000 --> 02:22:10.559 Big shoes? 2248 02:22:15.559 --> 02:22:15.799 Man? 2249 02:22:15.879 --> 02:22:19.559 I still can't. I got to say that Akashi Chris 2250 02:22:19.600 --> 02:22:22.040 only fans. I got to dig into the uh the 2251 02:22:22.399 --> 02:22:25.280 CAB's I can keeping. 2252 02:22:24.760 --> 02:22:35.120 One for you man, a one dollar two dollars. People 2253 02:22:35.120 --> 02:22:39.399 are just paying for those same mens. There you missed 2254 02:22:39.399 --> 02:22:40.760 his talk about his feet. 2255 02:22:41.159 --> 02:22:44.520 He actually went on and on one time how beautiful 2256 02:22:44.559 --> 02:22:45.319 his feet was. 2257 02:22:45.520 --> 02:22:47.879 That there we go. 2258 02:22:48.280 --> 02:22:48.920 I was hoping. 2259 02:22:50.879 --> 02:22:55.399 I was literally it was a whole thing. It was 2260 02:22:55.399 --> 02:22:56.000 a whole thing. 2261 02:22:56.879 --> 02:23:00.600 I said, one thing into a whole things. 2262 02:23:01.000 --> 02:23:03.600 Yes, yes, I have ideas. 2263 02:23:05.120 --> 02:23:07.200 Proctologists always hang out with those two. 2264 02:23:07.840 --> 02:23:10.040 May I ask one last question? 2265 02:23:10.399 --> 02:23:10.680 Please? 2266 02:23:11.639 --> 02:23:16.040 Okay, So, ladies and gentlemen, if you were to talk 2267 02:23:16.079 --> 02:23:19.600 to him alien right now, what would you tell them? 2268 02:23:19.719 --> 02:23:22.799 Is the number one thing that they need to eat? 2269 02:23:24.440 --> 02:23:26.000 A think? What's your favorite meal? 2270 02:23:28.079 --> 02:23:30.959 Oh boy, Tim, go ahead? Oh no, sorry, debs, you 2271 02:23:31.000 --> 02:23:31.639 go ahead. 2272 02:23:33.280 --> 02:23:35.639 I'm just so afraid that they'd get hurt by what 2273 02:23:35.719 --> 02:23:39.280 I like to eat. I love her food that includes 2274 02:23:39.360 --> 02:23:44.239 Indian and Korean, Trapanese, Chinese, and of course Mexican food 2275 02:23:44.319 --> 02:23:48.520 because my dad's Texans, so you know. So I would 2276 02:23:48.559 --> 02:23:50.559 be afraid that those would be harmful for them. So 2277 02:23:50.600 --> 02:23:55.239 I would just tell them to drink lots of water, not. 2278 02:23:55.319 --> 02:23:59.200 Very fulfilling filling of the belly. Tim, what are you 2279 02:23:59.280 --> 02:24:02.440 telling you the uh the other non human intelligence? You 2280 02:24:02.479 --> 02:24:03.040 want them tea? 2281 02:24:03.399 --> 02:24:05.440 Well, for me, this is no brainer because it may 2282 02:24:05.479 --> 02:24:09.680 be happening already. It may already be connected with aliens 2283 02:24:10.000 --> 02:24:14.120 and cattle mutilations. It's my favorite theory about cattle mutilations, 2284 02:24:14.239 --> 02:24:18.120 and that is, if aliens are us from the future, 2285 02:24:18.159 --> 02:24:22.719 they may simply be coming back to aduct cattle for 2286 02:24:23.079 --> 02:24:26.319 what could be a rare delicacy in the future, and 2287 02:24:26.360 --> 02:24:27.840 that is a steak. Nice steak. 2288 02:24:29.000 --> 02:24:31.280 I mean for me, I'd rather have like a smash 2289 02:24:31.319 --> 02:24:33.639 burger with cheese. But okay, that's fine. Yeah, I mean 2290 02:24:33.680 --> 02:24:35.680 you're a higher You're a little bit more of a 2291 02:24:35.879 --> 02:24:39.280 you know, hoity toity than me. Go ahead to akashi. 2292 02:24:41.399 --> 02:24:53.760 Blone. Oh yeah, and so east Flue. It is like 2293 02:24:53.760 --> 02:24:56.639 like you get transported to a different world. So I'm 2294 02:24:56.719 --> 02:24:59.280 hoping that that will make them like. 2295 02:24:59.360 --> 02:25:02.479 Keep us, Ruthie. I love it fun. 2296 02:25:02.600 --> 02:25:12.040 Go ahead, Ruthie, I will say a seafood. 2297 02:25:11.760 --> 02:25:15.920 Oil, seafood boil. 2298 02:25:16.239 --> 02:25:21.920 I want everything I want, I want I want octopus, 2299 02:25:22.239 --> 02:25:30.120 I want crabs, I want oh my god, everything seafood everything. 2300 02:25:30.959 --> 02:25:34.920 Mm hmm, totally. Uh what what are you telling the 2301 02:25:34.959 --> 02:25:36.079 Aliens they need to eat? 2302 02:25:36.559 --> 02:25:39.319 I think they need to try a Cuban dish, and 2303 02:25:39.600 --> 02:25:42.000 I think they will be satisfied for the rest of 2304 02:25:42.040 --> 02:25:42.479 their life. 2305 02:25:42.520 --> 02:25:43.680 Some lichon, some. 2306 02:25:43.719 --> 02:25:49.399 Black beans and rice, some yuca, and some sweet plantains. 2307 02:25:49.879 --> 02:25:52.159 So it's a complete meal. Man, I can't argue a 2308 02:25:52.239 --> 02:25:52.959 complete meal. 2309 02:25:53.280 --> 02:26:00.600 You've got the whole things, like you brought it all 2310 02:26:00.639 --> 02:26:01.000 that work. 2311 02:26:03.719 --> 02:26:08.040 Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it's just one salty, one sweet, 2312 02:26:08.120 --> 02:26:10.600 so they can they can have a little bit of each. 2313 02:26:11.399 --> 02:26:13.799 For me, I'm gonna go to my standard. It's the 2314 02:26:13.879 --> 02:26:18.479 Whole food version of cheese doodles. Like there's like the 2315 02:26:18.520 --> 02:26:22.479 Whole Foods cheese puffs. So I'm just gonna go and go, hey, 2316 02:26:22.520 --> 02:26:24.120 you know, take a bag of this, have at it. 2317 02:26:24.159 --> 02:26:25.360 You're just gonna love it. 2318 02:26:25.559 --> 02:26:27.000 So all right, it's puffs. 2319 02:26:27.079 --> 02:26:29.920 You give the aliens cheesy poofs. 2320 02:26:30.719 --> 02:26:32.959 I mean, I wanted to go simple. I'm not gonna 2321 02:26:33.239 --> 02:26:35.440 you know, I'm not gonna try to outdo that. Look 2322 02:26:35.479 --> 02:26:38.479 at Boston b It just gave him a complete Cuban meal. 2323 02:26:38.639 --> 02:26:43.000 Savory sweet New York pizza pizza. 2324 02:26:43.360 --> 02:26:47.879 You know, I wanted to go to this one. Alright, guys, 2325 02:26:47.920 --> 02:26:49.559 we gotta get out of here. It has been two 2326 02:26:49.600 --> 02:26:52.479 and a half hours of really we expect you do 2327 02:26:52.559 --> 02:26:54.000 an hour and a half. But it really was a 2328 02:26:54.000 --> 02:26:58.200 lot of fun and I really appreciate everybody being here. 2329 02:26:58.280 --> 02:27:02.879 The Cabby's uh and our guest and Ruthie's a Cabby too. 2330 02:27:02.920 --> 02:27:05.840 But you will see these mods come on screen with 2331 02:27:05.920 --> 02:27:10.200 us and do shows. We did them on Mod Roundtable recently. 2332 02:27:10.600 --> 02:27:16.000 We will do another. And someone mentioned Dave Scott. I 2333 02:27:16.079 --> 02:27:19.319 will work through Jewels or Courtney if I need be 2334 02:27:20.040 --> 02:27:23.559 to get Dave Scott for our Canadian roundtable. That should 2335 02:27:23.559 --> 02:27:27.120 be a blast. And JOHNA is practicing sort of a 2336 02:27:27.239 --> 02:27:33.559 hammed up Canadian accent for you guys. All right, so anyway, bye, everybody, 2337 02:27:33.959 --> 02:27:38.319 please hit that subscribe button, please give us a like 2338 02:27:38.360 --> 02:27:40.840 if you would, and we will see you on August 2339 02:27:40.920 --> 02:27:42.639 first show. 2340 02:27:42.760 --> 02:27:58.159 Everybody, good night. 2341 02:28:16.760 --> 02:28:18.280 Who else is your ambus