Speaker 1: H Yeah.
Speaker 2: Can somebody give me an amen for this pedal?
Speaker 3: Anybody in the Gamian.
Speaker 4: A man? Brother?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want no one. Doctor Tim mounts. He don't
Speaker 5: been enough churches. Man. He's from nother Mississippi.
Speaker 3: Right Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night, Tan revivals, Bible school,
Speaker 3: Bible drills.
Speaker 5: Oh, doctor Tim, one of my best friends is from Corinth.
Speaker 5: Is that near you or no?
Speaker 3: No, it's near ish. Corinth is very north Mississippi, near
Speaker 3: the Tennessee line. And I grew up in a small
Speaker 3: county called Ponta, Mississippi. And that's an Indian word means
Speaker 3: land of hanging grapes. And that's right between two blow
Speaker 3: birthplace of the King and Oxford, where I went to school,
Speaker 3: old miss.
Speaker 5: And when he says the King, hopefully everybody knows that
Speaker 5: means Elvis Presley.
Speaker 3: So it's like, oh, dude, I think I'm talking about Jesus.
Speaker 5: All right, let's introduce the panel right here. The voice
Speaker 5: you were seeing down below me with wearing the muscle shirt,
Speaker 5: much to the delight of many of the Cabby's, is
Speaker 5: the host of all things unexplained, none other than doctor
Speaker 5: Tim Mouth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, thank you. For having me, Thank you
Speaker 3: very much.
Speaker 6: He went there.
Speaker 3: Since they were talking about the King.
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, I didn't know about that whole thing about
Speaker 5: the Elvis impersonators and all the drama between them and
Speaker 5: the Feds and everything else. I didn't realize.
Speaker 3: About that story. Yeah, yes, wild story. I know some
Speaker 3: of those people in there too.
Speaker 5: And why am I not surprised?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a small town, small world, holy cow.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, well, we're gonna have to have a cover
Speaker 5: that on another show. Next to me is one of
Speaker 5: our newest Cabby moderators. I think she's the second to newest.
Speaker 5: She's amazing. She is a genuine but equa from New York.
Speaker 5: Uh and she is just a brilliant person whom we
Speaker 5: rely on to kind of that context in almost any situation.
Speaker 5: So we're very, very fortunate to have her as a
Speaker 5: member of calling all beings family, put them together for
Speaker 5: miss Ruthie problems.
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you, Hello everyone, Hello, welcome.
Speaker 5: Next to Ruthie is her body equa sister h She
Speaker 5: comes to us from Puerto Rico to Texas to Oklahoma,
Speaker 5: where apparently she's got a lot of chickens and animals
Speaker 5: to look after. And a farm put them together for
Speaker 5: Akashi christ Oh, I'm.
Speaker 6: So happy to be here. If I looked panicked at
Speaker 6: the beginning as you guys were talking, it was hilarious.
Speaker 6: I had three sessions of DJ going amen, and I
Speaker 6: was trying to find like all my DJ windows and
Speaker 6: it's like Amen, Amen, Amen.
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh my god, that's overwhelming, so many amens.
Speaker 6: Feels so religious and thank you for having me tonight.
Speaker 6: I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 5: Yeah. In fact, you are part of keV, so you're
Speaker 5: kind of automatically part of it. But the fact that
Speaker 5: you love conspiracies made you a shoe in for this episode.
Speaker 5: You had to be here.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. My sister's not here tonight, so she had
Speaker 6: to Tapi was supposed to be here tonight and she's
Speaker 6: not able to join us tonight because she's been in
Speaker 6: the hospital all week. But she loves conspiracies as well,
Speaker 6: so you're gonna have to have her back for that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she sent me some messages today. She sounds exhausted,
Speaker 5: but Wanta said, you know her looking after a friend
Speaker 5: in need when there's emergencies going on. That is That's
Speaker 5: all you need to know. Nothing else matters. The show
Speaker 5: doesn't matter. She's doing yes up above a Kashi is believe.
Speaker 8: It or not, somebody who also has a conspiracy she
Speaker 8: bet to bring out.
Speaker 5: Tonight, CAB co hosts Boston.
Speaker 4: Be Day, Bust and Bay Yeah in the house.
Speaker 6: Hi everyone, have you said an hour and half with
Speaker 6: you guys?
Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't expect you to have a conspiracy, but
Speaker 5: you never know what's gonna happen on CAB.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 6: Never know.
Speaker 5: Ye, I'm explained exactly one of the original get you
Speaker 5: know what? We need to play that clip from Steve
Speaker 5: for Doctor Tim Mounts tonight. I believe he's heard it,
Speaker 5: but maybe later on. Remember the clip we listened to
Speaker 5: last week, there was two and there was one that
Speaker 5: kind of blew us all away. Maybe later on the show,
Speaker 5: we'll we'll try to get a reaction from Doctor Tim
Speaker 5: Mounts and Debs since the rest of us have heard it. Anyway, Uh,
Speaker 5: This next young lady to be is right is an
Speaker 5: original gangster of calling all beings. She has been here
Speaker 5: since we started in twenty twenty one. And by the way,
Speaker 5: don't miss it. Late August, either the twenty second or
Speaker 5: twenty ninth will be celebrating the fifth anniversary of CAB.
Speaker 5: I expect every Cabby will be there and there will
Speaker 5: be some special guests. Party people put them together for
Speaker 5: a study of UAPs DASO. There it goes.
Speaker 4: Yes, I guess the girls outring the guy.
Speaker 5: We were talking about that today, whether it's true crime,
Speaker 5: whether it's UFOs, the girls out number the guys. I mean,
Speaker 5: you girls are leading the way, whether it's the phenomenon whatever,
Speaker 5: you girls are leading the way and you know having
Speaker 5: your voice heard. So we need to just be there
Speaker 5: and speak with you. So thank you, lady for leading
Speaker 5: the way as you have.
Speaker 6: We have a lot to say.
Speaker 5: You do you do ye?
Speaker 6: Lots lots a lot of to say.
Speaker 5: I think he's here.
Speaker 6: Many sassy.
Speaker 5: All right and and uh, Ruthie's probably spoke with him
Speaker 5: this week, so yeah, we need to get with him
Speaker 5: as well. All right, let's kick it off. Who wants
Speaker 5: to start off? Because it doesn't matter to me. You're plenty,
Speaker 5: You're plenty, Ruthie. Well, we got to start somewhere in
Speaker 5: the screen that makes sense, not I. You want to
Speaker 5: start with Debs. Debs, you want to kick it off?
Speaker 5: I don't know where Debs is actually.
Speaker 9: Earlier saying something, and I was just messaging, did you
Speaker 9: guys hear me?
Speaker 5: No, we didn't you. No, it could be because you
Speaker 5: were on mute.
Speaker 9: Oh no, I went on mute after I tried to
Speaker 9: say something. I was saying that I need to make
Speaker 9: an original gangster sign.
Speaker 5: You do, Yeah, you need some. We need some sort
Speaker 5: of cab Gan sign that's you know, west coast or
Speaker 5: East coast or yeah, you know.
Speaker 9: So that like home when the men in black are
Speaker 9: after us, we can stick to each other something like that,
Speaker 9: you know. Okay, So I guess the biggest conspiracy that
Speaker 9: I'm seeing that is confounding to me right now is
Speaker 9: the response actually to the UFO dumps that are happening,
Speaker 9: all the documents and the videos. So this is an
Speaker 9: ongoing conspiracy in the UFO community. People think it's a signop.
Speaker 9: So I think that that is what I want to
Speaker 9: bring to the table first. So there's there's this conflict
Speaker 9: that I'm seeing. Some people are like, oh, the US
Speaker 9: government knows everything and they're not telling us anything yet.
Speaker 9: And then there's the other side that's like, they don't
Speaker 9: know anything. So that's the conventionrum I wanted to up.
Speaker 5: Oh it looks like we might have a new book
Speaker 5: from Doctor Mounts. We're gonna have to get to that
Speaker 5: later on. Okay, So the way this is going to go,
Speaker 5: just from the way we're set up on screen, is
Speaker 5: Boston bea Akashi, Ruthie and Doctor Mounts and then and
Speaker 5: then I might have something from the Peanut Gallery. So
Speaker 5: Boston bea what's your reaction to that? Is this?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 5: I guess the crux? Is this a siop? And then
Speaker 5: also it sounds like you want to know deb's do
Speaker 5: you believe they know everything or they don't know anything?
Speaker 5: And the truth probably lies in the middle, But go ahead,
Speaker 5: Boston bea.
Speaker 7: In my humble opinion, I think how quickly we got
Speaker 7: the information as far as it was alluded to. Then
Speaker 7: things started dropping that this was part of a bigger plan.
Speaker 6: And I believe I don't think.
Speaker 7: They know everything, but I think they have had enough
Speaker 7: time to study what it is that they know, to
Speaker 7: study UAPs.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, dips.
Speaker 7: Sorry, So yeah, so that's where our stance is.
Speaker 10: Yeah, sorry, all right, there we go a little. All right, Akashi, Uh,
Speaker 10: what is your stance on on what depths presented?
Speaker 5: Is their syp involved? They do they know everything? Do
Speaker 5: they not know anything? Where are you at?
Speaker 6: Well? I believe that even Burchette and Annapoleon and Luna
Speaker 6: have mentioned that they have seen stuff that's like ten
Speaker 6: thousand times better than what has been released so far,
Speaker 6: based on how they have released information in the past
Speaker 6: and the fact that it did it did happen so quickly.
Speaker 6: I mean, of course fifty years in the making, but
Speaker 6: that it did happen so quickly. It feels like this
Speaker 6: is files Light by their own admission. So is it
Speaker 6: a psia? It's it's dangling a carrot, you know, It's like,
Speaker 6: are they gonna like when chet the carrot? Or what
Speaker 6: are they going to do with this? Because it's all
Speaker 6: about testing. It's all about testing particular people and how
Speaker 6: they're going to react to things before they go all out.
Speaker 6: So I think, you know, this is files Light in
Speaker 6: my opinion, not necessarily a psion, but controlled, very very
Speaker 6: controlled message my.
Speaker 5: Opinion, fair, fair, no, no? Could? Does someone want to
Speaker 5: say somebody's name that's in the middle of the screen
Speaker 5: next to you, Akashi.
Speaker 6: Love List? What do you think?
Speaker 4: Hi? Okay? So I have two opinions or two conspiracies
Speaker 4: or however you want to put it. One is they're
Speaker 4: trying to hide something from us, the Epstein List, the
Speaker 4: Epstein files, and putting all these stuff out for us
Speaker 4: to forget about what's actually going on, and giving us,
Speaker 4: like she said, like miss Akashi, like a care of dangling,
Speaker 4: like here, take a take, and then they pull it away,
Speaker 4: little things that we probably already seen on the internet.
Speaker 4: And you know they want to now say that you
Speaker 4: know it's real, guys, Okay, we've been know it. But
Speaker 4: also there's the blue beam where they want to pretend
Speaker 4: that this evasion is happening with aliens and all this,
Speaker 4: and that in reality it's not real and it's manufactured.
Speaker 4: So the way all this stuff is coming in, I
Speaker 4: want to see a real freaking alien shaking the hands
Speaker 4: of the president. If I don't see that, then what
Speaker 4: are you guys telling me? I already know this. You know.
Speaker 5: She can't tell you what man girlfriend drives are hard bargain.
Speaker 5: The only one thing I want to say about Daniel,
Speaker 5: you know, the only thing I want to say about dangling.
Speaker 5: Artice is good for the eye side, right, doctor Tim?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Carrot's a real good for.
Speaker 5: Us, Doctor Tim Mounts, The host of all things unexplained
Speaker 5: that he does with his co host CJ and Smitty.
Speaker 5: They are three really smart people. Every one of them
Speaker 5: is taught school and you can tell clearly I wasn't
Speaker 5: one of their students, or I'd be smarter. Tim, What
Speaker 5: do you think about that as far as is there
Speaker 5: a sy op going on? And do they know everything?
Speaker 5: Do they know nothing? Wear you out on the continuum?
Speaker 3: Well, look, first of all, we should never expect anything
Speaker 3: from the government. That's just the way it is. And
Speaker 3: there's no doubt in my mind that these are UFO files,
Speaker 3: and there's there is some intriguing stuff in there, mostly
Speaker 3: the historical stuff. But there's no doubt in my mind
Speaker 3: that there is somewhere between disinformation and cyops going on
Speaker 3: within these files and what we are seeing. I mean,
Speaker 3: just look at the new involvement of doctor phel I mean,
Speaker 3: believe it or not that actually had I mean he
Speaker 3: got the last files early. His involvement actually has some
Speaker 3: people very concerned, concerned that because he is a voice
Speaker 3: of reason, a voice of trust for a lot of people,
Speaker 3: and that his involvement is a sign a signal of
Speaker 3: some sort of catastrophic potentially catastrophic disclosure that is imminent. Now,
Speaker 3: that is what some people think. But then look at
Speaker 3: the debacle that was aliens dot gov. Like what a farce.
Speaker 3: It was very reminiscent of the Phoenix Lights farce where
Speaker 3: the mayor of Phoenix went in front of everyone and
Speaker 3: brought out this dude in an alien costume and just
Speaker 3: made a big joke out of it. Right, Like, just
Speaker 3: when you think they're taking it serious, they do something
Speaker 3: like aliens dot gov. And by the way, they totally
Speaker 3: played up, you know, the extraterrestrial UFO angle of that
Speaker 3: in just a humiliating way. That that was horrible. But
Speaker 3: there are some very serious things embedded in these files.
Speaker 3: Like there's one particular incident, and I want to talk
Speaker 3: too much. One is in the Western United States. It's
Speaker 3: been in the first three releases, at least the FBI.
Speaker 3: It involved orbs, involved the military helicopters chasing the orbs,
Speaker 3: looking for them a cave or a cavern entrance. It
Speaker 3: involved the FBI responding, And in my opinion, there's only
Speaker 3: two ways FBI responds here, and one is espionage and
Speaker 3: two is the FAA, and both of those could have
Speaker 3: been in play here. Because we have public reporting of
Speaker 3: our sensitive sites where fair space has been shut down
Speaker 3: in Palm Dell, for example, and then in Plant forty
Speaker 3: two they were being invaded by what they called at
Speaker 3: the time drones. And at the exact same time, the
Speaker 3: population in Palm Dell was literally seeing things in the
Speaker 3: sky and reporting them that as UFOs UH. And then
Speaker 3: we have the creation of this UAP Advisory Council with
Speaker 3: av Lobe and by the way, their primary objective is
Speaker 3: national security, and then a lot of people forgetting. Twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four, we had this lawmaker Jeff Andrew. He goes
Speaker 3: on Fox News Live and he says there is an
Speaker 3: iranium mothership off the East coast launching drones into the
Speaker 3: United States. He told that and he said, yes, sources
Speaker 3: I told him that. So it's hard to know exactly
Speaker 3: what to believe, but it's clear to see that there's
Speaker 3: some sort of funny business going on.
Speaker 5: I just want to respond to Steve, but before I do,
Speaker 5: I want to welcome back this young lady had been missing.
Speaker 5: She had things going on. She is the OG of
Speaker 5: cab moderators, and I'd like to give a random applau
Speaker 5: Plous are amazing mod Jules. Welcome back Jules horeat Dude
Speaker 5: with We also welcome Sarah Shaknhara from a friend's birthday party.
Speaker 5: And we always celebrate people taking care of their business.
Speaker 5: The show can wait, We can wait. You go and
Speaker 5: take care of what you got to take care of them.
Speaker 5: We're ready to welcome you in. Relative to what Steve
Speaker 5: Wolfe says, I will say that Kurt Russell was not
Speaker 5: the only one flying about during the Phoenix Lights. The
Speaker 5: Luke Air Force Base which housed at that time in
Speaker 5: ninety seven, they had a wing of S sixteen's there
Speaker 5: and they also launched as you would expect during Phoenix Lights.
Speaker 5: And I have not heard and I don't know if
Speaker 5: doctor Tim has any direct testimony or debs from those pilots,
Speaker 5: but the crew chiefs who caught those aircraft when they
Speaker 5: landed did have. They have spoken to people in the
Speaker 5: UFO community and said these guys were like white as
Speaker 5: a sheet when they landed. Whatever they saw up there. However,
Speaker 5: the size of this craft, I mean that would look
Speaker 5: like Independence Day. As big as that craft was, it
Speaker 5: was miles cross. So so yes, Luke Air Force Base did.
Speaker 5: I don't want to use the word intercept because you're
Speaker 5: not intercepting something like that, but they did go up
Speaker 5: and have a look at at what that craft was.
Speaker 5: Now getting to my answer, since the Peanut Gallery is
Speaker 5: going to weigh in tonight, we're a little light and
Speaker 5: we expected a couple more conspiracy conspirators. I guess we
Speaker 5: could say so an answer to your question, is this
Speaker 5: a syop and this is kind of not going to
Speaker 5: diverge at all from what be Akashi, Ruthi and Tim said.
Speaker 5: There's always some sort of a psychological operation going on
Speaker 5: because you want to control disclosure. Otherwise it's just letting
Speaker 5: everything out there, let everybody see everything, see what happens.
Speaker 5: And that's never a good idea when you're in government
Speaker 5: because you don't know what's going to happen, and you
Speaker 5: don't want to you don't want to release information without
Speaker 5: having a very very good idea of what the result
Speaker 5: of that is going to be. From that standpoint, Doctor
Speaker 5: Mountsman mentioned doctor doctor Phil one of his colleagues. Another
Speaker 5: another phdo double G and you know there is There
Speaker 5: have been PhDs in psychology and sociology that have consulted
Speaker 5: with the White House on this topic. For decades, literally decades.
Speaker 5: But doctor Phil happens to be a face that we
Speaker 5: all know and that America trusts. I think ross Caultart said,
Speaker 5: ross Caltat said something analogous to that, And it's true
Speaker 5: that you know, someone like doctor Phil is has you know,
Speaker 5: decades himself on television. He's a trusted voice of America.
Speaker 5: Obviously he has the trust of the administration, and they
Speaker 5: elected to utilize, collaborate, synthesize with doctor Phil on some
Speaker 5: elements of disclosure, the exact nature of which we don't know.
Speaker 5: But I'm I'm for my part, I'm really glad about it.
Speaker 5: As far as the second part of your question, Debs,
Speaker 5: they definitely don't know nothing, and they definitely don't know everything,
Speaker 5: and I don't think that should surprise anyone on the
Speaker 5: panel or anyone in the audience. And now, how do
Speaker 5: we know that when you listen to the best sources
Speaker 5: on this topic as to what the government knows, the
Speaker 5: best sources we have are people like Jim Semivan because
Speaker 5: he was I don't know, head of Foreign Service Officers
Speaker 5: for the CIA. So if he says something that he
Speaker 5: believes it's this, take it to the bank. As far
Speaker 5: as what the government knows, because we know that CIA
Speaker 5: has knowledge on these programs as well as others these
Speaker 5: that we don't even know the source or or what
Speaker 5: agency these entities work for, Department of Energy, you know,
Speaker 5: we don't know. But yes, certainly they know something. Definitely
Speaker 5: they do not know nothing, And definitely they do not
Speaker 5: know everything, because how could you possibly know everything? That
Speaker 5: would be an absurd comment to make, because we can't
Speaker 5: know everything when we don't even know all the intelligences
Speaker 5: are out there and where they're from. So that's my
Speaker 5: take on that. Please hold your applause till the.
Speaker 3: End, though, DJ, could you pull something up for me? Yes,
Speaker 3: put a screenshot there? Uh, say the hell? Yeah? So
Speaker 3: this is literally the the image the cover sort cover
Speaker 3: image of the UAP Advisory Council's public survey. Okay, someone
Speaker 3: on the UAP Advisory Council. This is their artistic rendindering
Speaker 3: rendering of one of the encounters in the UAP file,
Speaker 3: the Western US encounter at a site. It's my belief
Speaker 3: this happened at the Nevada test site. And you can
Speaker 3: see that they he's throwing what appears to be some
Speaker 3: sort of huge cavern or cave opening, and they have Orbs.
Speaker 3: They're calling him Orbs in the UAP files, which I'm interesting, right,
Speaker 3: And they're having a very close encounter with a military
Speaker 3: helicopter and this is their understanding of what that incident
Speaker 3: looked like at this Western US site. And I mean
Speaker 3: that just gives you something to think about in my opinion.
Speaker 5: Well let's go there, Tim, because we played the Jesse
Speaker 5: Michaels video on this show. So I mean you dabs,
Speaker 5: I mean Akashi. I think you guys are best place
Speaker 5: to weigh in on this more than myself or anybody
Speaker 5: else here. What do you guys think? What about that narrative?
Speaker 5: Because did Jesse Michaels interview seemed to indicate that it
Speaker 5: was in Mexico? Am I wrong about that? Where the
Speaker 5: fighter jets chased those helicopters that flew into the mountain
Speaker 5: it opened up? And then am I are we talking
Speaker 5: about the same thing here or no.
Speaker 9: I can say that I did not see that the interview,
Speaker 9: but I would say that this reminds me very much
Speaker 9: of the Foo Fighters, which is the third wave of
Speaker 9: sightings that were reported and that occurred during World Wars.
Speaker 9: And if so, we know Graham Randall has a lot.
Speaker 11: Of books about that.
Speaker 9: Yes, but this is what that looks like to me.
Speaker 9: These look like foo fighters.
Speaker 5: Well, I we did cover it, so I encourage you
Speaker 5: to tune into calling all being steps.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't remember this particular incident.
Speaker 5: You like my laugh track? Is that good? Maybe?
Speaker 4: Not? All?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 5: Tim? Your thoughts? Do you do you think is this
Speaker 5: the same incident that or did you the Jesse Michaels I.
Speaker 3: Trying to remember who's that this is not the same
Speaker 3: incident if the incident he was talking about was in Mexico,
Speaker 3: because they spell it out in now three different releases
Speaker 3: of the UFO or UFO files that this incident occurred
Speaker 3: at a western United States site and it had FBI involvement,
Speaker 3: which happened because again it was at a United States site.
Speaker 3: It's my opinion that this incident represents the Nevada test site.
Speaker 3: I think there's a slim chance it represents Plant forty
Speaker 3: two near Palmdale, but I think it's more likely it
Speaker 3: represents the Nevada test site. And they still have not
Speaker 3: released that that's still redacted where that exactly took place at.
Speaker 3: Now you won't have to wonder how much does Ivy
Speaker 3: Lobe and the rest of the UAP Advisory Council know
Speaker 3: about that. But you know, it's that's part of what
Speaker 3: I can't figure out because I think they had some
Speaker 3: sort of prior intelligence, which is why they went to
Speaker 3: investigate this cave. They believed, in my opinion, that these
Speaker 3: orbs were coming from and returning to, potentially a subterranean area.
Speaker 3: I even located an abandoned subterranean area near Plant forty
Speaker 3: two that is now under security guards. They put up
Speaker 3: a guard shack. There's an active security truck guarding the
Speaker 3: little road out in the middle of nowhere that leads
Speaker 3: down to an abandoned mine near plant forty two. Now,
Speaker 3: who utilizes that? Why did they block the public from that? Oh,
Speaker 3: shortly before the drone incursion started? I can't tell you.
Speaker 3: But something here doesn't add up.
Speaker 11: Tim.
Speaker 5: Is this one where the terrain opened up to accept
Speaker 5: that helicopter and those orbs or no? Or is it
Speaker 5: just always like this?
Speaker 3: Well in the file it said that they hovered the
Speaker 3: cavern entrance for quite a while, that it was not
Speaker 3: saved for them to land there, but they did hover
Speaker 3: at the cavern entrance for a while now, wow, you
Speaker 3: know you, And like I said, it's been in all
Speaker 3: three the first three UFO files at some point. I
Speaker 3: believe that twenty twenty three was the first incident, but
Speaker 3: maybe I'm wrong. It could have been twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: But anyway, this spurred some US intelligence official to go
Speaker 3: out there and investigate, and they had their own encounter,
Speaker 3: and this is what brought in the FBI. So again,
Speaker 3: if this was at the Nevada test site, we're not
Speaker 3: really talking about fair space here, but we are. We
Speaker 3: are talking about espionage, which is why, again I feel
Speaker 3: like there's some disinformation out there, because there is also
Speaker 3: reporting by Christopher Sharp and others through sources that the
Speaker 3: military has been luring these things into our sative sides. Well,
Speaker 3: you tell me, day Jay, in your experience, is it
Speaker 3: really espionage? If we're lowering things into our sides, it's
Speaker 3: certainly not an adversary country as we think of it.
Speaker 3: I don't believe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think espionage is the wrong word only because
Speaker 5: as Americans or as humans, we associate that with foreign
Speaker 5: intelligence services and I don't I don't think that's this,
Speaker 5: So yeah, I have to agree with you, Chris, like
Speaker 5: objects like this have been seen coming into Dulce, New
Speaker 5: Mexico for years, into that piece of train in Dulce, right,
Speaker 5: doul before bea correct me.
Speaker 6: Let me get that right, Yeah, that on this particular one.
Speaker 6: And I don't know enough about the background on this image.
Speaker 6: I mean, was it specifically like the three Was there
Speaker 6: a particular reference to three or does the image just
Speaker 6: show you know, for.
Speaker 3: There at least three orbs involved in this incident. As
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, at one point, one of the
Speaker 3: orbs appeared to release several smaller orbs that went in
Speaker 3: separate directions, so a lot had.
Speaker 6: So there was more than three potentially, Yes, yes, okay, yeah,
Speaker 6: I just I didn't know if this was I'm not
Speaker 6: a fan of the whole image three seventy thing. I'm not.
Speaker 6: I don't like to even talk about it, but I
Speaker 6: always see those images where they're always showing the three
Speaker 6: orbs and the three orbs and going around, and it's like,
Speaker 6: I just wanted to make sure that's not what this
Speaker 6: was trying to depict.
Speaker 5: It's yeah, just you know, just take it as it's
Speaker 5: an image of orbs going in a piece of train
Speaker 5: in a helicopter following, w what do you do? You
Speaker 5: have any thoughts on that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm with Debs and that
Speaker 6: this is food fighters. You know, this just feels like
Speaker 6: another It's just another piece piece of the puzzle. This
Speaker 6: is this has all been out there for so long,
Speaker 6: and if if this starts to come out and you
Speaker 6: didn't what they didn't show this particular incident and.
Speaker 5: Just when she's talking about food fighters, just so you know,
Speaker 5: Dave Grohl has nothing to do with these foods fighters.
Speaker 5: That's a totally different thing.
Speaker 3: So okay, there's.
Speaker 5: Exactly different. Rock back. All right, let's get everybody off
Speaker 5: the screen. It looks like we say.
Speaker 2: Something DJ, yes, hold on.
Speaker 6: So here's what I like. You notice that we are.
Speaker 7: The the US helicopter is behind them, and it's not
Speaker 7: that they're coming after and the US is kind of
Speaker 7: running like scared.
Speaker 6: So that this kind of that image kind of gives
Speaker 6: me a sense of strength.
Speaker 7: For our on our side that we are following, so
Speaker 7: we look like we're more in control rather than they're
Speaker 7: coming after us and like we're scared of something happening.
Speaker 6: So that actually gave me some like confidence.
Speaker 5: I just want to say thank you. To dit dot
Speaker 5: fifty five for the two uh and want to thank
Speaker 5: law Wife twenty five JOHNA for our our ten memberships.
Speaker 5: Thank you very much, John, and we greatly appreciate that. Man.
Speaker 5: You got that DJ, I got it all got it
Speaker 5: on the Yeah. I mean the only thing I would say,
Speaker 5: I would caution everybody on the panel. And I think
Speaker 5: Akashi was alluding to this is we don't know the
Speaker 5: veracity of that photo compared to events. And I think
Speaker 5: that's what she's getting at is sometimes they're using technology
Speaker 5: to create a photo and it doesn't necessarily even represent
Speaker 5: the narrative or what or what actually happened, or or
Speaker 5: if there is an actual photo of this from because
Speaker 5: a lot of times aircraft like here, just to give
Speaker 5: you kind of like a frame of reference, you're looking
Speaker 5: at a you're looking at what looks to be I mean,
Speaker 5: it could be an MH sixty from the one sixtieth.
Speaker 5: It could be an H eighth sixty from the Air Force.
Speaker 5: But generally they fly in twos, so there'll be a wingman.
Speaker 5: Even even my aircraft I flew, we would a lot
Speaker 5: of times we would fly in a pair. So especially
Speaker 5: if if you need more than one to get the
Speaker 5: mission done. So if that's the case, there could be
Speaker 5: a photo of Chop two, what we would call number
Speaker 5: two in the formation, taking a photo of Chop one.
Speaker 5: And what Akashi's saying is this photo may not represent
Speaker 5: what it it actually looked like. So we got to
Speaker 5: be careful if you put if we.
Speaker 6: Put your thought MBS thought together, because I like where
Speaker 6: Bria was going with this. What does she pick up
Speaker 6: on the strength? Yes, you know, she's looking at it
Speaker 6: from a different perspective, So she's picking up on that
Speaker 6: statement of strength. So what we're looking at it might
Speaker 6: be a you know, a message of strength. We're still
Speaker 6: in control, guys, something a real thing might not be
Speaker 6: that might not have that sense of strength, you know,
Speaker 6: But that's what they're going to show us. And that's
Speaker 6: exactly what be I picked up on. That's what they want.
Speaker 7: So look at how much smaller those those orbs are
Speaker 7: compared to the strong USQUE helicopter wearing the helicopter.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and.
Speaker 3: You know, you just got to keep in mind here though,
Speaker 3: what this is. This is the cover art for the
Speaker 3: public survey of the UAP Advisory Council, which has been
Speaker 3: formed to help the military it's actually a cross uh
Speaker 3: entity group, so FBI se a military government to help
Speaker 3: them figure out what these things are. And so on
Speaker 3: the flip side of this coin, that's that's not strength
Speaker 3: at all, Like that's admitting we have no idea what
Speaker 3: they are, where they're coming from, where they're going, back to,
Speaker 3: who they belong to, how to stop them. That we're
Speaker 3: literally admitting to that, and we're now asked avy Lobe
Speaker 3: and a like a I don't know, a aighteen group
Speaker 3: of scientists to to figure out what they are. It
Speaker 3: reminds me I've compared this situation too, and it's not
Speaker 3: a perfect analogy. I've compared it to the the group
Speaker 3: put together at Bletchley Park world War two to attempt
Speaker 3: to crack the Enigma code ooh.
Speaker 5: Oh, any of the German comms or.
Speaker 3: No, meaning that this is a serious military situation that
Speaker 3: we're having to bring in outside experts in on to
Speaker 3: get to the bottom of it. And I think that
Speaker 3: it's knowing that it could be of potentially equal seriousness
Speaker 3: to the military that should, you know, really make us
Speaker 3: continue to dig into these cases and try to get
Speaker 3: to the truth.
Speaker 5: And you you know what, several years later you still are,
Speaker 5: and we still are, and you know BA has joined us,
Speaker 5: and it's a worthwhile endeavor. I mean, it can't really
Speaker 5: get any bigger than are we alone? I think that's
Speaker 5: been said in many interviews with people like Ross Cultar.
Speaker 5: Actually the first interview question with Ross Caultard and David
Speaker 5: Grush was what And we remember he said, are we alone?
Speaker 5: And David said, We're definitely not alone? And this guy
Speaker 5: was cleared high enough to go briefit the White House.
Speaker 5: So you got to have pretty good reads to go
Speaker 5: briefit the White House. So and we'll get to that
Speaker 5: maybe later on. We'll play some of the David Grush
Speaker 5: interview if we have time, because that interview. There's certain
Speaker 5: interviews that never get old, and that's one of them.
Speaker 5: But let's go on to Boston Bia and her conspiracy theory,
Speaker 5: which doesn't include duty.
Speaker 6: It doesn't. But Ruthie didn't ask to go next, so
Speaker 6: I will just go ahead. I get your back, no problem.
Speaker 4: Okay, because this one's long. So have you guys heard
Speaker 4: about the Nicola Tesla conspiracy theory? No? All right? So yeah,
Speaker 4: so Nicola Tesla was all right? So how I got
Speaker 4: into this was you know how all these scientists were
Speaker 4: quote unquote, you know, dying or killing themselves. So Nicola
Speaker 4: Tesla apparently he was a a mad scientist too some
Speaker 4: and he was a very okay smart people to others.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 12: So, so he was obsessed with the Great Parents of Giza, right,
Speaker 12: So a lot of people don't know what the Pyramids
Speaker 12: of Giza were made to be or whatever, but in
Speaker 12: his mind he thought it was an energy source.
Speaker 4: He was very obsessed with it. So he found a
Speaker 4: way to harness the energy of the earth to make
Speaker 4: free electricity. He did this experiment I think it was
Speaker 4: in Colorado, and many people say that they saw lightning
Speaker 4: bolts falling from the sky and in his notes he
Speaker 4: wrote how his experiment worked and all the bolts turned
Speaker 4: on with free electricity. And we all know the electricity
Speaker 4: is one of the biggest things that people pay for,
Speaker 4: so of course that's not good, right. He was targeted,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, conspiracy theory because he found a way to.
Speaker 1: Do a.
Speaker 4: Collecting energy through the environment, through the energy, and with
Speaker 4: that he can give free electricity to everyone. He also
Speaker 4: was known as a mad scientist who created a death
Speaker 4: ray and in this conspiracy. This happened in World War
Speaker 4: Two where he was found dead. I believe he was
Speaker 4: like eighty years old. But the thing is with his
Speaker 4: death that within an hour of his death, American alien
Speaker 4: programs and secret services took all his stuff, everything, everything
Speaker 4: he ever, you know, put down in lettering words, all
Speaker 4: his experience experiments, and it disappeared a lot of them
Speaker 4: were missing. But now it comes to where his findings
Speaker 4: connect to HARP, which is a supposedly quote unquote again
Speaker 4: quote unquote conspiracy theory. HARP is a company or whatever
Speaker 4: you want to call it that can affect the the weather.
Speaker 4: And again with the death ray, there's a lot of
Speaker 4: people that talk about seeing electric rays coming down to
Speaker 4: start fires and all that. That's a whole different thing.
Speaker 4: So after his death, they took all his files and
Speaker 4: many things they did not understand, but many things they did.
Speaker 4: And the conspiracy theory is that Nikola Tesla found a
Speaker 4: way to do free energy for the world, but companies
Speaker 4: like Morgan and Morgan took over or quote unquote maybe
Speaker 4: killed them to get all that to themselves. That's it.
Speaker 5: Take it away, Akashi.
Speaker 6: I love thank you so much, Ruthie, because Tesla's story
Speaker 6: is so tragic. It's like, you know, it can remind
Speaker 6: you a little bit of Truman Show, whenever Truman wanted
Speaker 6: to get some and there was always an obstacle. This
Speaker 6: is what happened to Tesla all the time, right that
Speaker 6: they destroyed the death ray was called telephorce, and of
Speaker 6: course saw conspiracy theory, right, but you know he called
Speaker 6: it cosmic energy. What he found. It's like a way
Speaker 6: to harness the earth, you know, to use those natural resources,
Speaker 6: you know, and get away from from this crazy turning
Speaker 6: of energy that we have right now because we just
Speaker 6: don't want to accept it. So I it's so sad.
Speaker 6: He died alone, broke everywhere he turned, he was turned
Speaker 6: away for somebody else, or his equipment was destroyed over
Speaker 6: and over again, or like you said, his paperwork has
Speaker 6: taken all his work was stolen and taken him where
Speaker 6: the go? You know, who knows? So I love tesla
Speaker 6: story so sad, but I loved it. You know, I've
Speaker 6: always wandered the whole three six nine session with three
Speaker 6: six nine? What you what was he thinking? So thank
Speaker 6: you so much Ruthie for bringing that to lessons.
Speaker 5: A good one, I think the mall had it right, Oh,
Speaker 5: Gosha because they had that store five seven nine, so
Speaker 5: they're only off by two. J tough crowd.
Speaker 6: I love that store. Oh my goodness, that was store.
Speaker 6: Good for you, skinny. Some people had to go to
Speaker 6: the fat Girl's store.
Speaker 5: She's like, do you have nine and a half. They're like, no,
Speaker 5: we cap it at nine. Uh, don't worry. I'm in
Speaker 5: no dangerous shopping exactly. I need the husky kids clothing,
Speaker 5: the modern world.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna taste.
Speaker 5: The modern world.
Speaker 3: N Buddy bought a pair of pants, Smitty. He bought
Speaker 3: a pair of pants at Frids one time because he
Speaker 3: spilled his something on his other pants. Like, you want
Speaker 3: to get some cheap pants, get him at Freid's son.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Back to you.
Speaker 5: Nikola Tesla a great deal of thanks, but we definitely
Speaker 5: did not get all his tech. This stuff they problem.
Speaker 5: This is aultimating current one of them. So yeah, Boston
Speaker 5: be a taken away on the Nikola Tesla conspiracy.
Speaker 7: Well, admittedly I didn't know a lot about him, but
Speaker 7: one of the things I was doing behind the scenes
Speaker 7: is trying to see if he was part of the
Speaker 7: Tesla car company. But it does look like the Tesla
Speaker 7: brand was named in honor of him, right so, and
Speaker 7: it's also no coincidence that also like solar panels, like
Speaker 7: my bill to the solar company is from Tesla. But
Speaker 7: as far as his history, I have to say I
Speaker 7: didn't know much about him. But I know with the
Speaker 7: modern you know, when we say Tesla, you just think
Speaker 7: of the cars. But I guess that was then in
Speaker 7: his honor. So that's all I got to say.
Speaker 5: Debs Nicola Tesla conspiracy.
Speaker 9: Okay, so interesting story that I found out. Once upon
Speaker 9: a time the light bulb companies sat down and had
Speaker 9: a meeting because some of the light bulbs were lasting
Speaker 9: too long. In fact, there is one light bulb that
Speaker 9: is still going that is I believe, about one hundred
Speaker 9: or something years old in a firehouse, and they decided
Speaker 9: that they needed to change the light bulbs because they
Speaker 9: wanted to make money off of them, they didn't want
Speaker 9: them to last too long. So do I suspect greed
Speaker 9: would have something to do with the demise of Tesla,
Speaker 9: Absolutely possible. I do think he had some of his
Speaker 9: own demons. However, I don't think that he was all
Speaker 9: to together so to speak. So I think that could
Speaker 9: have also contributed to his demise. But I think that
Speaker 9: people were definitely watching him like a hawk to steal
Speaker 9: his ideas from him.
Speaker 5: No question.
Speaker 11: And the.
Speaker 5: I was going to say, when you think about an
Speaker 5: incandescent bulb with the filament that runs across it, there's
Speaker 5: no way that a piece of metal shouldn't be fatigued
Speaker 5: and break in the middle after all these years. So
Speaker 5: the fact that that happened as a miracle, I also
Speaker 5: know from I did some reading up on navigation, and
Speaker 5: there was they were trying to figure out a new
Speaker 5: ways to navigate in England. And I want to say
Speaker 5: it was in the eighteen hundreds and this guy built
Speaker 5: a clock made with wooden gears. It's still running today,
Speaker 5: like York or something. The clock is over two hundred
Speaker 5: years old, has wooden gears and still runs. Tim's got
Speaker 5: Tim's got his watch from Switzerland, right there? Is it? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Oh wo.
Speaker 11: Man?
Speaker 5: Yeah for real man. So anyway, regarding your your conspiracy, uh,
Speaker 5: someone in the chat putty very well, I don't. First
Speaker 5: of all, I want to confess I don't have a
Speaker 5: lot of knowledge on Nicola Tesla, so I wouldn't go there.
Speaker 5: This is a conspiracy that I've heard for the last
Speaker 5: five years about since I started studying UFOs, that I
Speaker 5: have heard about Nikola Tesla. So I find that there
Speaker 5: probably is a lot of credibility in that there's obviously
Speaker 5: been movies and documentaries made about him. He was in
Speaker 5: competition for which electricity would power America with Thomas Alva Edison,
Speaker 5: and obviously, although he didn't get the credit because Thomas
Speaker 5: alva Edison was was a proponent of d C power. Well,
Speaker 5: what happens when a generator is running DC power and
Speaker 5: for some reason that generator slow down, slows down, your
Speaker 5: lights go dim so as it slows down. So that's
Speaker 5: why alternating current and why now we used to have
Speaker 5: DC generators in vehicles and now we have alternators. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't doubt your conspiracy at all, Ruthie. Zero point
Speaker 5: energy is something that you would think that the world
Speaker 5: or production would not be in favor of something like that.
Speaker 5: People have been killed for very very ridiculous reasons that
Speaker 5: would be at the bottom of a ten thousand line
Speaker 5: continuum compared to someone producing something that would make companies
Speaker 5: in stock tank, especially when you look at the stock
Speaker 5: market crash of the nineteen twenties, doctor Tim.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so thanks for that conspiracy theory, Ruthie, because I
Speaker 3: think it's the perfect concert seriously, because it still resonates
Speaker 3: strong today and it's a great continuation of our previous
Speaker 3: topic from dev with the UFO files. Because and by
Speaker 3: the way, thank you for bringing up the light bulbs,
Speaker 3: because a lot of people may not realize this, but
Speaker 3: we all in this country may have something in the
Speaker 3: light bulbs. Right down the roads from all Things Unexplained video,
Speaker 3: this is actually going in my next book, and that
Speaker 3: is tungsten. And so two brothers down the road here
Speaker 3: in North Carolina discovered at the time the largest North
Speaker 3: American tungsten deposit and known at the time, and they
Speaker 3: discovered that, wow, this this stuff has a really high
Speaker 3: melting pool and it's perfect for things like covering tanks
Speaker 3: in them, and then later on light bulbs. So I'm
Speaker 3: glad you brought up the light bulbs. But Tesla, you know,
Speaker 3: and I think Ruthy brought up Epstein files earlier. I
Speaker 3: think it can tie in here because I do think
Speaker 3: the UFO files could be a distraction from the UFO
Speaker 3: files because from what I've looked. I've been focused on
Speaker 3: the Epstein files just on one thing, and that's his
Speaker 3: connection to science and mathematics, physics, and I believe, I
Speaker 3: fully believe that if not Epstein himself, whoever was behind Epstein,
Speaker 3: they were attempting to achieve a new breakthrough in physics
Speaker 3: and mathematics. And that should be frightening because he also
Speaker 3: had conferences on the apocalypse. He literally had conferences called
Speaker 3: doomsday conferences. And the last major breakthrough in physics we had,
Speaker 3: I mean major breakthrough. We had a little something called
Speaker 3: the atomic bomb come out of that. And I think
Speaker 3: it was Einstein that said that he didn't know how
Speaker 3: world War three would go, but world War four would
Speaker 3: start with sticks and stones. And so I think that,
Speaker 3: you know, we hear all this talk about free energy,
Speaker 3: but that could come at a price too, right, if
Speaker 3: we have a breakthrough in gravity and physics, you know,
Speaker 3: and we're talking about the military is almost certainly going
Speaker 3: to be involved here. We have to believe that, you know,
Speaker 3: this also the potential for incredible harm in the world.
Speaker 3: Ruthie brought up the death ray. That's applicable today too,
Speaker 3: because look at the reporting that sixty minutes is done
Speaker 3: with the Vana syndrome. I mean, what would you call
Speaker 3: that if not a death ray? It literally is a
Speaker 3: direct energy weapon that we know is being used on
Speaker 3: scientists and officials around the world potentially. I had an astrophysicist
Speaker 3: after a podcast one night tell me off the air
Speaker 3: that a colleague of his had been attacked by a
Speaker 3: direct energy weapon and had physical damage from that, and
Speaker 3: that they were literally afraid to leave the country because
Speaker 3: they did not know what would happen to them. And
Speaker 3: this is because of a literal death ray.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 3: I think that the Tesla conspiracy theory is terrific because
Speaker 3: it continues today and continues to resonate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I h the when you look at the energy
Speaker 5: that he created and what it looked like, you know,
Speaker 5: it looked like lightning bolts.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 5: So, Ruthie, when you talk about a death ray, if
Speaker 5: you're just harnessing and containing that energy in one single beam,
Speaker 5: if you can harness that into a beam, you have
Speaker 5: a death ray. I mean, so I can I can
Speaker 5: go there quite easily from the energy that he created
Speaker 5: with his And again I'm not I don't know, I'm
Speaker 5: not a test expert, but it's very easy to see
Speaker 5: how he could have projected that energy that would have
Speaker 5: done destruction. It's not a laser technology. That's a totally
Speaker 5: it's a laser is a is a you know, a
Speaker 5: beam of light, basically an intense beam of light. But
Speaker 5: but this, yeah, I could totally see that, totally could
Speaker 5: see that. So that was a great one. Ruthie, thank
Speaker 5: you very much. And you know, maybe we should give
Speaker 5: a little bit of an applause to Ruthie Roblez. All Right,
Speaker 5: our next conspiracy, I believe is do you want to
Speaker 5: go back up to you Bia or you want to
Speaker 5: go to a Kashi. I'm mute. It sounds good. It
Speaker 5: sounds like, oh.
Speaker 6: I said, you can go to Akashi.
Speaker 5: That's oe Akashi. With your conspiracy, what do we got?
Speaker 6: Okay, So everybody thought that I was going to come
Speaker 6: in with blissive diarrhea with the Cyclora Explora uh y,
Speaker 6: but I pivoted. I pivoted at the last minute. And
Speaker 6: I think this one's actually pretty important and really relevant
Speaker 6: to the conversation that we're having here. We can talk
Speaker 6: about diarrhea later.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 6: Let's talk about everybody dire. But that is a totally
Speaker 6: different show. Not for this show. So there was an
Speaker 6: article written in Popular Mechanics. Seriously speaking, that was a
Speaker 6: Popular Mechanics article written the other day that talked about
Speaker 6: inventions that the government doesn't want you to know about,
Speaker 6: and it was looking at all these projects right that
Speaker 6: go unpublished, and it was actually quoting I didn't know
Speaker 6: that this existed, and tell me, I might just be
Speaker 6: stupid and new to this. But the Invention Secrecy Act
Speaker 6: of nineteen fifty one. Did you guys know about that?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 6: There? Okay, so this is really interesting. If a patent
Speaker 6: application contains technology considered potentially harmful to national security, the
Speaker 6: government can place it under a secrecy order. Well guess
Speaker 6: what there was like sixty five hundred and forty three
Speaker 6: said are under the secrecy orders. It does not have
Speaker 6: to be government related, so they can review all these
Speaker 6: patents and basically say this does not get released, you know,
Speaker 6: and nobody ever really hears about it. And there was
Speaker 6: a FOYA. So what the article was talking about was
Speaker 6: a FOYA that was done in twenty ten that showed
Speaker 6: that some of the logs said that the things that
Speaker 6: were getting flagged were energy efficiency. So this kind of
Speaker 6: ties it all together. Right, we got you know, we
Speaker 6: got the Tesla piece, we got you know, the stuff
Speaker 6: that ten was talking about. It's like, is this is
Speaker 6: this law the way that things being you know, you know, suppressed.
Speaker 6: And maybe it's you know, money related, maybe it's not
Speaker 6: you know, national security, because that's pretty subjective. This goes
Speaker 6: back to UAP, right, don't release it because of national security?
Speaker 6: Same thing. But now it is like this blanket and
Speaker 6: look at the year nineteen fifty one. You had the
Speaker 6: CIA created, you know, you got the forty you know,
Speaker 6: nineteen forty seven, nineteen you know, all that started to happen,
Speaker 6: and this law sitting there just protecting, you know, making
Speaker 6: sure that patterns don't get out that they don't want.
Speaker 6: What do you guys think?
Speaker 5: All right, who is next to It's not diarrhea, but
Speaker 5: it's you know what, nothing is going to be as
Speaker 5: good as diarrhea. We're gonna we're going to suffer without that.
Speaker 5: I don't know which direction. Let's reset. Let's go to
Speaker 5: DEBS and then we'll go to Bah and then Ruthie
Speaker 5: and then doctor Tim. So let's start with DEBS.
Speaker 9: I think that's fast, is slightly alarming, you know, I'm
Speaker 9: kind of like in the middle when it comes to politics.
Speaker 9: But I'm also sometimes inclined that the government shouldn't have
Speaker 9: that much control over us, which goes a little bit
Speaker 9: I don't know towards the Republican side, I think, but
Speaker 9: I don't appreciate that they're hiding those things, and I
Speaker 9: know that greed is definitely one of those things that
Speaker 9: contributes to that. You know, what comes to minds for
Speaker 9: me on this is, you know, the astro car and
Speaker 9: some of the hovering platforms that were created in the
Speaker 9: fifties and we didn't even get to learn about them until,
Speaker 9: you know, some seventy years later. You know, so how
Speaker 9: many things are they actually using that people are trying
Speaker 9: to patent for their own use and that we're not
Speaker 9: going to find out about for seventy years.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Boston Via So I was looking it up and
Speaker 13: they have over sixty five hundred active secrecy orders in
Speaker 13: place and it's still active today.
Speaker 7: So yes, it allows the government to suppress the disclosure
Speaker 7: of patent applications and that restricts exports and prevent technology
Speaker 7: from being commercialized.
Speaker 6: That's pretty interesting that.
Speaker 7: You know, you know who's in control, and you know
Speaker 7: they can hide it under a secrecy because they want
Speaker 7: the technology that somebody is thinking of.
Speaker 6: So that's pretty interesting. I never knew that existed.
Speaker 7: So thank you for bringing up a great topic and
Speaker 7: it's definitely worth diving into a little bit more.
Speaker 6: Thanks for looking that up. Yeah that thanks for looking
Speaker 6: that up, because I think this could lead to some
Speaker 6: other convos things.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, I have a follow up to this one
Speaker 5: as well, but it's not my turn yet. So if
Speaker 5: you could introduce the person sitting in between Tim and Akashubia, sure,
Speaker 5: Ruthie Ross.
Speaker 4: I always get the wrestler intro, So yep, sorry, I
Speaker 4: got hit gups. So my thought is the government, the
Speaker 4: government is gonna make you think whatever they want.
Speaker 5: And you know, I think we're losing some of your audio.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, can you hear me now?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, the government wants to let us think and
Speaker 4: hear a certain thing, which you know it doesn't it
Speaker 4: doesn't matter at the end of the day. But I
Speaker 4: agree with the cash.
Speaker 5: And you know, yeah, I want I'll follow up with
Speaker 5: this one real quick. There is I knew this act
Speaker 5: because I worked in industry in between what I do now,
Speaker 5: like for Lockheed and says the Export Control Act, which
Speaker 5: is covered under twenty two US Code, Chapter thirty nine,
Speaker 5: and that basically prevents foreign companies from selling arms for
Speaker 5: like I'm sorry, defense contractors. That could be Lockey, that
Speaker 5: could be Boeing, that could be Raytheon, that could be
Speaker 5: l three, that could be any of these contractors from
Speaker 5: selling to a foreign government. Because so, in other words,
Speaker 5: if somebody buy, let's just say there's I think there's
Speaker 5: I don't think there's any countries within F thirty five.
Speaker 5: I don't think that technologies out there there are countries
Speaker 5: that have F thirty F twenty twos. Let's say we
Speaker 5: were to sell an F twenty two to the Saudi Arabians.
Speaker 5: They are getting an F twenty two in terms of
Speaker 5: engine propulsion, navigation, but they're not necessarily going to have
Speaker 5: all the magic boxes of avionics that exist on that
Speaker 5: F twenty two, so it won't have the capabilities in
Speaker 5: terms of targeting, in terms of weaponry. I've explained this
Speaker 5: to you via you and I had this conversation once
Speaker 5: that our F twenty twos have. So I guess everybody
Speaker 5: should know and understand that even though the Saudis at
Speaker 5: the time were flying around with F fifteen Strike Eagles.
Speaker 5: They didn't have necessarily the exact same radar or the
Speaker 5: exact same targeting pod, et cetera, because they don't want
Speaker 5: other countries to have the exact same technology we have
Speaker 5: unless they build it. These rallies have built some great
Speaker 5: technology and they're not selling it outside of their their country.
Speaker 5: As well, they have some avionics that they've that they're
Speaker 5: their companies in Israel have have have engineered. So anyway,
Speaker 5: this follows that same premise that this follows that same
Speaker 5: premise that, uh yeah, if an inventor worked to come
Speaker 5: out with a technology and file for a patent like
Speaker 5: Salvatore Paist did for the Navy, that that that that
Speaker 5: that may get locked down and not released any further
Speaker 5: than us seeing those drawings, which basically are nothing. They're
Speaker 5: just based basic drawings that they're submitting to the US
Speaker 5: Patent Office. So yeah, that that totally makes sense to me.
Speaker 5: Who's next, I believe it is, uh, doctor de Mounts.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think that's a great conspiracy because
Speaker 3: it really ties into what we generally think of as conspiracies.
Speaker 3: This this grand compartmentalization of knowledge and the separating of
Speaker 3: it and the keeping it out of the public's hands,
Speaker 3: and all the different people that are involved in causing
Speaker 3: these things to happen. And I'm gonna tell you something
Speaker 3: that is related, in my opinion, to what we're talking
Speaker 3: about here with these inventions, and that is the Atomic
Speaker 3: Security Act or the Atomic Energy Act. This came about
Speaker 3: in nineteen forty six. If you're not familiar with it,
Speaker 3: and essentially anything that falls under the Atomic Energy Act,
Speaker 3: you're not finding out anything about it, I mean never ever,
Speaker 3: and nobody is. I mean, I'm not sure. I know
Speaker 3: DJ might know someone that has high enough clearance to
Speaker 3: find out something that's in that vault, but I don't
Speaker 3: know of anybody, and you're never gonna find it out.
Speaker 3: Like anything that went under it in the forties, basically
Speaker 3: for the most part, it's still there. And I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give a shout out to somebody that I think everybody
Speaker 3: should look up if you're interested in this subject matter,
Speaker 3: and that is Richard Guildret Skeldreich on Twitter, it's ge
Speaker 3: L D R E c H. He makes fascinating posts
Speaker 3: and he has really dug into this Atomic Energy Act.
Speaker 3: And here's a post of his It says doctor detlif
Speaker 3: BRONC MJ twelve member applied for an Atomic Energy Act
Speaker 3: security clearance on July eighth, nineteen forty seven. If that
Speaker 3: date rings a bell, it is the same day as
Speaker 3: the Roswell capture announcement. This is in a declassified FBI memo.
Speaker 3: And if you really just get to pay an attention,
Speaker 3: you will be shocked at what you'll learn about the
Speaker 3: people and how you can and Richard tracks them based
Speaker 3: on their security clearances and applications with the Atomic Energy Act.
Speaker 3: So really fascinating stuff.
Speaker 5: Go figure, I'm already following them.
Speaker 3: Tim, there you go.
Speaker 5: And the fact what you mentioned Debt Lift, I mean
Speaker 5: that in the time that MJ twelve happened, Debtlift is
Speaker 5: obviously a German name. I think you know that from
Speaker 5: the NBA. Tim, everybody here might not know that, but
Speaker 5: he could have been one of those scientists that came
Speaker 5: over as part of the Nazi captures. You know those scientists.
Speaker 5: What was the other guy that came that headed up
Speaker 5: NASA and that whole Apollo program. What was his name?
Speaker 5: You know who I'm talking about? Oh, yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 5: was a Nazi. So yeah, there's several I mean there's
Speaker 5: more than just one bun. Yeah, last last ba. We're
Speaker 5: not gonna get any more tough, cirl. So so yeah, there,
Speaker 5: it's it's likely in the time that the first iteration
Speaker 5: of m J twelve would have been in that after
Speaker 5: World War two time frame? Am I correct? Debs? Is
Speaker 5: that correct?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 9: I agree. There's a possibility that that's about when it
Speaker 9: happened because if you if you look in the Armies
Speaker 9: Boya on UAPs, that's when they start looking for the
Speaker 9: flying Wing and they go to Germany and they have
Speaker 9: a lot of investigations about what was seen over the
Speaker 9: United States. It's very interesting. So I think that's about
Speaker 9: the time things would have peeded up.
Speaker 5: H good stuff. We got a lot, we got a
Speaker 5: lot of great smart people on this panel right here
Speaker 5: that's really helping to inform the audience and a lot
Speaker 5: of great perspectives. So I'm really really enjoying enjoying this,
Speaker 5: h Tim What is uh? I think it's time for
Speaker 5: your conspiracy in the meantime going to try to bring
Speaker 5: up that Crush interview because I think we would all
Speaker 5: just have a blast with.
Speaker 3: That, Okay, And I just wanted to click add on
Speaker 3: there to what dy Ab was saying. Please, I had
Speaker 3: mentioned how to me, some of the greatest things in
Speaker 3: the profile so far have been the historical reports. And
Speaker 3: we were doing a shocking amount of studies into green
Speaker 3: fireballs in the forties and fifties, particularly green fireballs that
Speaker 3: were appearing over our sensitive military sites. So this goes
Speaker 3: back to this whole thing that you know, these orbs
Speaker 3: and stuff like this is not a new phenomena, this
Speaker 3: interaction with our sensitive military sites, and they were very
Speaker 3: concerned about it, and we're bringing in outside scientists to
Speaker 3: study that phenomenon back then, and for the most part,
Speaker 3: they said, hey, this is this is not something we
Speaker 3: know exactly what is going on here.
Speaker 5: The only reason I'm hesitant to talk about the green
Speaker 5: blobs is because that could make Akashi think of diarrhea.
Speaker 5: And then we'll go back to our our conversation we
Speaker 5: had Thursday with a.
Speaker 6: It's a different show, talk about that later.
Speaker 5: This is your.
Speaker 3: All right, So I actually made a power point for
Speaker 3: my little thing here. Yeah, and I'll see if I
Speaker 3: can run down it. So I'm fascinated with Mount Saint
Speaker 3: Helens and we all kind of know about the tragic
Speaker 3: situation that unfolded there in nineteen eighty. But did you
Speaker 3: know that a lot of people believe that something was
Speaker 3: hidden after the Mount Saint Helen's eruption, And this is
Speaker 3: a bigfoot cover up conspiracy involving the nineteen eighty Mount
Speaker 3: Saint Helen's eruption, And of course, eight thirty two am
Speaker 3: on May eighteenth, nineteen eighty, the north face of Mount
Speaker 3: Saint Helens collapsed in the mountain exploded sideways. The official
Speaker 3: death toll was fifty seven lives. There's some great documentaries here,
Speaker 3: including one scientist that was studying it. He seemed like
Speaker 3: he was at a very safe distance, but of course
Speaker 3: when it erupted, he is not able to escape. But
Speaker 3: he captured some of the most iconic footage, unfortunately in
Speaker 3: his death that we have of the incident. But there's
Speaker 3: also a persistent legend involving the Mount Saint Helen's eruption,
Speaker 3: and that that is, it didn't just kill people and
Speaker 3: wildlife as we know it, but it also kills something else,
Speaker 3: and that that evidence was hurried away by the military.
Speaker 3: And here's basically how this legend was built. So it
Speaker 3: kind of has three parts here. So we have the
Speaker 3: pre existing legends of bigfoot sasquatches in the area before
Speaker 3: the Mount Saint Helen's eruption, and then we have the
Speaker 3: eruption itself, and then we have the cover up and
Speaker 3: this legend well before the mounts Helen's eruption ever happened. Sorry,
Speaker 3: oh nowhere, let.
Speaker 5: Me I was trying to put that big on screen
Speaker 5: and then I was trying to make it as big
Speaker 5: as possible and it screwed it up there.
Speaker 3: Sorry, go ahead, oh nowhere. Well before the Mountain Helens
Speaker 3: ever erupted, there were reports of something large and hairy
Speaker 3: and just out there in the woods. And this goes
Speaker 3: back to actually native people and they called it the Skukum.
Speaker 3: So even back to ancient times in the area of
Speaker 3: the Pacific Northwest Tribe, they had legends of the Skukum
Speaker 3: and this was Chinook jargon for strong or powerful or
Speaker 3: something big and hairy, wild man of the forest of
Speaker 3: the area of the Schuokum. And then we some of
Speaker 3: you may have heard of the Battle of Ape Canyon
Speaker 3: and this occurred in yeah, the summer, and that was
Speaker 3: in this area. This occurred in the summer nineteen twenty
Speaker 3: four five. Gold prospectors working on a claim on the
Speaker 3: mountain's northeast flank reported a night long deluge of boulders
Speaker 3: and rocks down upon them by something mysterious. They weren't
Speaker 3: quite sure exactly what was going on there. One creature
Speaker 3: allegedly reached through a gap to seas and acts and
Speaker 3: the men answered and shot their rifles at them, and
Speaker 3: the Oregonian, the local paper, even ran the tail and
Speaker 3: the gorge Earns earned its name since then Ape Canyon.
Speaker 3: And actually I love Josh Gates and Expedition Unknown. Josh
Speaker 3: Gates with Expedition Unknown has actually uncovered what they believe
Speaker 3: was the site that this Ape Kenyon incident actually took
Speaker 3: place at. So they did uncover like archaeological evidence of
Speaker 3: the cabin and the campsite and that sort of thing,
Speaker 3: only kind of like the cliff face there where they're
Speaker 3: in Ape Kenyon. And then later we had the account
Speaker 3: from a prospector. I believe what what year did this
Speaker 3: take place? This was, what's that in the thirties or twenties?
Speaker 5: Eight Kenyon.
Speaker 3: Eight Keny was in twenties, This was in nineteen parent
Speaker 3: in the sixties though, there was another party out there
Speaker 3: and they described creatures over some foot tall, covered in
Speaker 3: long black hair, walking upright. And there was actually a
Speaker 3: book written by Beck Fred Beck called I Fought the
Speaker 3: Ape Man of or Eight Men of Mount Saint Helen's,
Speaker 3: and the story became a cornerstone of Pacific Northwest Lower.
Speaker 3: And then, of course we know one day the mountain exploded.
Speaker 3: But the thing is, you know, if you grew up
Speaker 3: believing that there were bigfoots out there, then you had
Speaker 3: to believe that they would have been wrapped up in
Speaker 3: this incident as well. And March nineteen eighty there were
Speaker 3: some earthquakes that preceded this, and then on May eighteenth,
Speaker 3: the magnitude five plus quake dropped the entire north face,
Speaker 3: largest landside in recorded history, and the sudden pressure release
Speaker 3: let superheated gas and rock explode latterly towards Spirit Lake,
Speaker 3: and eruption column climbed eighty thousand feet high. And on
Speaker 3: my next side here this is some mind blowing statistics.
Speaker 3: Here the speed of the blast was six hundred and
Speaker 3: seventy miles per hour. It flattened two hundred and thirty
Speaker 3: square miles. I already said fifty seven lives were lost,
Speaker 3: but the energy here involved. Think about this was equivalent
Speaker 3: to sixteen hundred Hiroshima bombs, which is just, you know,
Speaker 3: pretty mind blowing. And then the cover up came in
Speaker 3: because they did send in the National Guard to recover
Speaker 3: the bodies that were on the side of the mountain,
Speaker 3: and surface began and they were blocking off some of
Speaker 3: these areas, and so it didn't take long for accounts
Speaker 3: to start surfacing that the cleanup crews were collecting dead
Speaker 3: sasquatch among the animal carcases, and that the eruption's recovery,
Speaker 3: which included a heavy military in presence. You know, this
Speaker 3: was actually the perfect breeding ground for such stories for
Speaker 3: the conspiracy theories involving the Bigfoot and believers. Note the
Speaker 3: local Bigfoot were said to live exactly where the blast
Speaker 3: struck the hardest. But of course, if that's true, where
Speaker 3: did the bodies go. Well, one man identified as Bradshaw,
Speaker 3: and his story was recorded in a book written by
Speaker 3: Linda Cole such he called Who's Watching You said he
Speaker 3: was posted over a covered heap of carcasses under armed guard,
Speaker 3: and when the tarps were lifted, he claimed to see
Speaker 3: sasquatch bodies under there, and then there were other accounts
Speaker 3: from witnesses that claimed to see a Chinook helicopter flying
Speaker 3: at one hundred hundred and fifty feet with a cargo
Speaker 3: net slung underneath, with three hairy, ash coated bodies with
Speaker 3: long gray limbs. Of course, there's been no official recognition
Speaker 3: of such an event happening, and what exactly did they hide?
Speaker 3: And I'm going to go back one slide actually to
Speaker 3: talk about the keepers of the legend. But these are
Speaker 3: some names involved here. Fred Beck, he was the prospector
Speaker 3: who survived the nineteen twenty four incident, and I had
Speaker 3: wrote a book on it in sixty seven. Mark myself,
Speaker 3: researcher who probed ap Ken Insight for its twenty twenty
Speaker 3: four centennial. Linda Sutchi who wrote that book. I mentioned,
Speaker 3: Who's Watching You? And a lot there's been a lot
Speaker 3: of modern median podcasts that's talked about the incident. And
Speaker 3: you know, all these accounts keep coming together about these
Speaker 3: bodies that vanished, and so this mystery has persisted that
Speaker 3: the Mount Saint Helens eruption not only claimed human and
Speaker 3: animal lives, but our dear friend the Bigfoot as well.
Speaker 3: And I was lucky enough to get to hike near
Speaker 3: Mount Saint Helens three years ago, so twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: that's me out there hiking there Mount Saint Helens. And
Speaker 3: I strongly encourage anyone if you get a chance, to
Speaker 3: hit out that way and check it out. And that
Speaker 3: is the Bigfoot conspiracy theory of Mount Saint Helens.
Speaker 5: Can somebody give me amen? I love that man, That
Speaker 5: was excellent. I have heard that one. At least part
Speaker 5: of it is very very well founded. We've mentioned this
Speaker 5: on the show several times. Battle Mountain in Nevada, that
Speaker 5: fire Mount Saint Helens, that government entities came and picked
Speaker 5: up bigfoot that were burnt, singed, injured, some alive, some
Speaker 5: not a live ap Latchicola when they had a fire
Speaker 5: there in Florida. So yeah, it's that that information is
Speaker 5: is quite well founded. And that was a beautiful presentation.
Speaker 5: Thank you for putting that together. Oh thanks, Let's go
Speaker 5: around the horn, debs. What do you think about that?
Speaker 5: About the revelations and that presentation by Doctor Mounts and
Speaker 5: Bigfoot and et cetera.
Speaker 9: Okay, so weird syncreticity here. My roommate literally just made
Speaker 9: me watch the eruption of Mount Saint Helens.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh, sorry, can't make that up.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's how weird?
Speaker 14: Is that?
Speaker 11: So?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 9: My my thing is it Yes, it's very possible for
Speaker 9: sure that that happens, But the bigger issue is it's
Speaker 9: probably happening at all the national perks, and it's probably
Speaker 9: not just exclusively for that. I think that we have
Speaker 9: gotten the impression from rangers that they're aware the Bigfoot
Speaker 9: is there. So I think it is a good question
Speaker 9: where are they taking bigfoot when they recover bigfoot? And
Speaker 9: what are they doing?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 9: Why are they not being open about that? Great question?
Speaker 9: But I unfortunately have no further answers as to what
Speaker 9: would have happened and why. It is to me a
Speaker 9: conundrum because you know, for instance, if we had wild
Speaker 9: gorillas in a park, they would tell us that we
Speaker 9: have other very dangerous like bison you know who saw
Speaker 9: and recently with the vice in right, So yeah, so
Speaker 9: why are we not being told about this?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 5: Yeah, debs, do you if I had to asked you,
Speaker 5: yes or no? Uh, do you think we have that
Speaker 5: our government has a big foot in captivity?
Speaker 9: I'm sad to say that. I think they have a
Speaker 9: lot of things in captivity. I get a strong impression, and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know why.
Speaker 9: I just think that they do. And I watched Disclosure
Speaker 9: Day for the first time yesterday. They mentioned freeing an
Speaker 9: entity in that movie, and I will not lie, I
Speaker 9: did get emotional during that part. So I think that
Speaker 9: there's a reason that I have that lingering sense that
Speaker 9: we have things that are captured that should not be agreed.
Speaker 5: Tom Boston ba.
Speaker 7: Well, I think the common denominator here, I think is
Speaker 7: the National Forests and all the secrecy around it.
Speaker 6: I think deb made a good point.
Speaker 7: If it was, you know, a bison, if it was
Speaker 7: anything else any other, they would tell us about it.
Speaker 7: But yes, I do think they have one in captivity.
Speaker 7: Of course, they have a lot of things in captivity
Speaker 7: that they've studied. And you know, with all this disclosure,
Speaker 7: I wonder if they will ever let us know anything
Speaker 7: about Bigfoot.
Speaker 11: Good.
Speaker 5: That's a great question. I think there's no pressure for
Speaker 5: them to do so, and pressure creates change. And because
Speaker 5: there's so much pressure from Congress, from you know, former
Speaker 5: government individuals like Louel Zondo and David Grush and Christopher
Speaker 5: Mellan and Jim Semivan and Tom DeLong, the the guitar
Speaker 5: player and all his contacts and and and others. There's
Speaker 5: there's others other than those guys. But with that, yeah,
Speaker 5: that pressure does not exist in the Bigfoot universe, and
Speaker 5: that that's the problem. We all address that when we
Speaker 5: get to me. But Akashi, your your thoughts on what
Speaker 5: doctor Tim's presentation.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the whole connection. You got volcanoes, you've
Speaker 6: got Bigfoot, You've got you know, usually when you have that,
Speaker 6: you have UAP in the middle. So you know, all
Speaker 6: of these things are connected. But you know, we talk
Speaker 6: about I love one of the things that I had
Speaker 6: a conspiracy was, you know, my list was the Smithsonian.
Speaker 6: We talked. You know, when we talk about Bigfoot, I
Speaker 6: can't help but think of all those old newspaper clipping
Speaker 6: the giants and the elongated skull and those also included these.
Speaker 6: You know, it wasn't Bigfoot was a giant. Probably it
Speaker 6: doesn't too, you know, but those those were all out there.
Speaker 6: Yet you know, we're supposed to believe that all those
Speaker 6: old newspaper clippings, they were all the newspapers. You know,
Speaker 6: that was printed media at the time. There was no AI,
Speaker 6: there was no photo shopping, there was no technology, you know,
Speaker 6: but you know, and this is where I'm like, where
Speaker 6: did they wind up? They're probably at the Smithsonian, you know,
Speaker 6: not a living but you know that a lot of
Speaker 6: stuff landed over there. You've got the tunnels, You've got
Speaker 6: you know, you got so many secrets in a place
Speaker 6: where it's supposed to control the narrative of accept the history.
Speaker 6: That's that's what I'm thinking. It's like, it's all about history.
Speaker 6: We can't if you let Bigfoot out, you know, open
Speaker 6: the kimmuno Bigfoot. You got to open the coimmuon of
Speaker 6: a lot of stuff. And I know open kimona is
Speaker 6: probably the wrong phrase to incorrect. I want to die.
Speaker 6: It's well good to open kimo. No, thank you so much, Tim,
Speaker 6: that was your presentation.
Speaker 3: You were going to do it before I got the
Speaker 3: chance to.
Speaker 5: Go for.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry I lost sake. No, but I'm back. So
Speaker 4: with this Bigfoot. So, the place I'm from is called Schenectady.
Speaker 4: It was the Native American Mohawk Territory, and the Bigfoot
Speaker 4: was always known in where I was where you know,
Speaker 4: this territory. So when it comes to Bigfoot, every time
Speaker 4: anybody talks about Bigfoot, or says something about Bigfoot. What
Speaker 4: comes to mind is it's been here for thousands of years.
Speaker 4: The Bigfoot conspiracy, the Bigfoot warning, or whatever you want.
Speaker 6: To call it.
Speaker 4: The Native Americans already knew about Bigfoot. And in my
Speaker 4: humble opinion, okay, the reason why we don't see Bigfoot
Speaker 4: is because, in my again, in my humble opinion, it
Speaker 4: has the capability of becoming invisible, kind of like the predator,
Speaker 4: and we can't see what's going on, but it sees us.
Speaker 4: It sees what we're doing, and it's scared of us.
Speaker 4: Because if again in my opinion, if the Bigfoot opens
Speaker 4: up and shows who they are, they're gonna take them
Speaker 4: and they're gonna do scientific experience experiences on them, and
Speaker 4: they know better, they learn, just like I'm gonna go
Speaker 4: on a whole different route, Mermaids and all these other
Speaker 4: things which are quote unquote not real. Trust me that
Speaker 4: there's big foots in a facility somewhere and they're being
Speaker 4: tested upon because they are real. Again, it's been here
Speaker 4: for thousands of years. Native Americans used to speak about
Speaker 4: the big foots and tell people to be aware about
Speaker 4: the big place. And that's all I gotta say yeah.
Speaker 5: And to add on to what Rubles says is you're
Speaker 5: gonna hear this theme over and over on CAB And
Speaker 5: it's not because I like repeating myself, but because it's
Speaker 5: applicable to a lot of things that we talk about
Speaker 5: when we talk about the phenomenon. And we've even used
Speaker 5: this to contextualize true crime and why people act certain
Speaker 5: ways that we've seen when we were covering Karen Reid
Speaker 5: and certain norms that exist within people and how they've
Speaker 5: reacted to that case. So true crime does have elements
Speaker 5: of this, as we do in the phenomenon. But humans
Speaker 5: like to be able to place something into something they know.
Speaker 5: You'll tell someone a story and they'll say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: I have a cousin who did something, you know, Like
Speaker 5: I could say, oh, talking to somebody about Moto Gpin,
Speaker 5: they'll say, oh, I have a cousin who raises dirt bikes,
Speaker 5: you know. So they always want to take something and
Speaker 5: put it in a box that where they can where
Speaker 5: they can understand it, where they can feel comfortable with it.
Speaker 5: What I suspect and what and now why I don't
Speaker 5: just suspect things out of thin air, or I'll tell you,
Speaker 5: I'm susp I'm taking a guess out of thin air
Speaker 5: without knowing anything. In this case, both Tim, myself, Bia
Speaker 5: and even Akashi and Debs have also interviewed a lot
Speaker 5: of bigfoot experiencers at this point, and what they tell
Speaker 5: you is that when they're looking at it and they're
Speaker 5: having a class a daytime close upsighting, they're saying, I
Speaker 5: feel like I'm looking at a human. This is when
Speaker 5: you know where Tim comes from. If they train their
Speaker 5: rifle on something that they can eat or that or
Speaker 5: sometimes that they can just kill, they will shoot it.
Speaker 5: And for them not to shoot it is is a
Speaker 5: departure from the norm. So if it were a bear
Speaker 5: and someone had a big enough rifle that they thought
Speaker 5: they could take down that bear, Tim, and it was legal,
Speaker 5: they'd take it down, right. They're either going to eat it,
Speaker 5: which they do in the Caucuses and I've been in
Speaker 5: Romania they eat bear, or they'll mount it. So but
Speaker 5: if they train their rifle on something that they think
Speaker 5: they can take down, they're going to take it down.
Speaker 5: If they're a hunter for one reason or another, either
Speaker 5: to eat it or because it's unique and they want
Speaker 5: to they want to mount it. Okay, So when they
Speaker 5: don't train their rifle on Bigfoot's or when they train
Speaker 5: it and then they lower their rifles because they're saying
Speaker 5: that looks like a human, That to me looks like
Speaker 5: some sort of a different tribe of people, which is
Speaker 5: getting after what Ruthie talked about. So if you're the
Speaker 5: government and you and you capture one of these things,
Speaker 5: and that may have happened decades before, or anyone on
Speaker 5: this screen was alive, for all we know, we can
Speaker 5: only guess as to how many they've captured, how many
Speaker 5: have been or are in captivity, if any anyone's guests.
Speaker 5: If that's the case, and they say I'm looking at
Speaker 5: a human, well, how are humans going to react to
Speaker 5: another type of human roaman around the woods with InCred?
Speaker 5: You know that survivor man Lestrauz said, I am not
Speaker 5: one one hundredth the woodsman that any Bigfoot is, any adult,
Speaker 5: male or female bigfoot. So how does how do we
Speaker 5: expect the government tim to put that in a box
Speaker 5: if that is some sort of a human being?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a great question. I gave a
Speaker 3: recommendation in the chat one of the most fascinating guests
Speaker 3: that I've had on All Things Unexplained is a by
Speaker 3: the name of Kawani laps Aritis. He's in the middle
Speaker 3: of nowhere in Washington State. I could only communicate with
Speaker 3: him through his satellite phone, which he occasionally turned on,
Speaker 3: and when he did turn it on, it still didn't
Speaker 3: get good service. I don't know how he got enough
Speaker 3: bars to actually be on the podcast one night. But
Speaker 3: he is the author of a book. Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 3: He's the author of a book called The Psychic inter
Speaker 3: Dimensional Bigfoot, and I think the title of the book
Speaker 3: says it all in terms of his experiences with the Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: And that's an extension of what Ruthie was talking about,
Speaker 3: and that may very well explain exactly why that sort
Speaker 3: of knowledge should not be publicly available. And that's what
Speaker 3: Akashki a Kashi was talking about too. Bigfoots and UFOs
Speaker 3: are highly correlated with each other in the same timeframe
Speaker 3: of encounters. I don't think anybody could say they know
Speaker 3: for sure why, but it's it is a fact. It's
Speaker 3: a mathematical fact, and you know there's something to that.
Speaker 5: But here's the thing, tim this is I'm trying to
Speaker 5: confine the question I don't. I don't want to explore
Speaker 5: the totality of what bigfoot is in this discussion, because
Speaker 5: that is a great discussion. It's a discussion that we
Speaker 5: will continue to have on cap For the purposes of
Speaker 5: this discussion, I'm trying to drill down to and just
Speaker 5: draw this in the frame to if it's partly human,
Speaker 5: looks acts human in some way, is that enough in
Speaker 5: your mind for the government to want to to be
Speaker 5: KOI and perhaps not even discuss, admit, or talk about
Speaker 5: this creature because they know that they're there, and they
Speaker 5: know that they're human, some sort of offshoot of human.
Speaker 3: Mind absolutely, because what are we What have we been
Speaker 3: led to believe about aliens? We've been led to believe
Speaker 3: that they are bipedal humanoids very similar looking to us,
Speaker 3: potentially giving very advanced versions of us from the far
Speaker 3: flong future, or advance versions of us that escape the
Speaker 3: Earth at some point, you know. And so if we
Speaker 3: if our thoughts of our notions about these different species
Speaker 3: of extraterrestrials are correct, and we definitely believe that knowledge
Speaker 3: is being kept from us, and we know that bigfoots
Speaker 3: are highly correlated with UFO sightings and certainly the same
Speaker 3: logic I think would apply to the cover up of
Speaker 3: the Bigfoot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it makes total sense to me. I
Speaker 5: don't know what this thing is. It kind of looks human.
Speaker 5: I don't know what we have to give it, what
Speaker 5: we owe it? Do we have to bring it in
Speaker 5: to Congress and have testified? I mean, you know, what
Speaker 5: do you do with it?
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, and I think Tji, I think
Speaker 7: that's the issue too, is that you're you're giving it
Speaker 7: a label of a human, but now you're going to
Speaker 7: have to give it the rights of a human. Insurance
Speaker 7: are they you know, I'm sure any opportunity to make
Speaker 7: somebody else pay taxes we would jump on that.
Speaker 6: Uh, now we have to take care of it.
Speaker 7: So or you know, how are they going to contribute
Speaker 7: to society like the rest of us.
Speaker 6: So I think there's an issue.
Speaker 7: With giving it a label of a human because now
Speaker 7: what where is the expectation?
Speaker 6: What what do we need from them? And what are
Speaker 6: we willing to give them?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just look at alf.
Speaker 6: Oh my God, was awesome.
Speaker 3: From Mailman.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, I love alf Oh my God, that is great.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Put him to work is yeah?
Speaker 15: I mean it.
Speaker 5: You could have them on you're one of your new
Speaker 5: team members at work, you know, just to be able to,
Speaker 5: you know, make calls with other bigfoots. But no, that question, no,
Speaker 5: that question could come out. Do you need to provide
Speaker 5: veterinary service to go out and meet them in the
Speaker 5: wild because we've heard I think there's a few of
Speaker 5: us on this panel that have heard of injured bigfoot,
Speaker 5: elderly bigfoot. We've heard of all these things, which gets
Speaker 5: to why James Bobo Fay from what's the name of
Speaker 5: that show Finding Bigfoot? Why James Fay believes that they
Speaker 5: definitely bury their dead. The evidence would suggest that that
Speaker 5: is the case. If they're that smart. Okay, if you
Speaker 5: have the bnobos that are hanging from a limb in
Speaker 5: Africa and fashioning a rod, a fishing rod with a
Speaker 5: twig and bugs on it, then why would we not
Speaker 5: believe that these guys can figure out how to use
Speaker 5: a tool to dig with I mean that just makes
Speaker 5: sense to me. Let's watch a little bit of this interview,
Speaker 5: shall we, and then react because I think it kind
Speaker 5: of it still blows my mind. We talked about it
Speaker 5: back when it came out, and nothing has changed. About that.
Speaker 5: All right, let's say here we are Rascal.
Speaker 14: Test, speculation, conc and science fiction.
Speaker 5: Tell me if you can hear Okay, everybody.
Speaker 14: Serious people have started taking the subject seriously.
Speaker 5: You'll see it come through the top of the screen.
Speaker 5: There it goes.
Speaker 14: Prompted in part by the release of these videos purporting
Speaker 14: to show encounters between American naval aviators and what the
Speaker 14: Pentagon has labeled unidentified aerial or anomalous phenomena, Congress has
Speaker 14: convened hearings to determine what these UAP are and what
Speaker 14: threat they might pose.
Speaker 5: I'm going to fast forward because I don't care when
Speaker 5: these people say. I want to get to Dave Rush.
Speaker 5: This is one of my favorite UFO videos of all time.
Speaker 5: We are flying pyramids, but now.
Speaker 14: For the first time, a former mem made that man
Speaker 14: for the very welcome absolute. Maybe start off telling me
Speaker 14: your name and who you are.
Speaker 16: My name is David Grush. You know, I came from
Speaker 16: a blue collar family in Pittsburgh, didn't have the money
Speaker 16: for college. Always admired people in uniform, and I've always
Speaker 16: wanted to be a part of something bigger than myself.
Speaker 11: And eighteen years.
Speaker 16: Ago, you know, I got an Air Force Scholarship in physics.
Speaker 16: I originally commissioned on active duty in the Air Force.
Speaker 16: Served fourteen years in the Air Force.
Speaker 14: I look at this photograph, Dave, and I see a
Speaker 14: very proud officer.
Speaker 11: I was getting promoted to captain when I was deployed.
Speaker 14: And you still love your country, don't you. Absolutely a
Speaker 14: career intelligence officer, Grush spent time on the ground in
Speaker 14: Afghanistan and other places he can't mention it before rotating
Speaker 14: back to Washington.
Speaker 16: I was an intel officer for the US for fourteen years.
Speaker 16: My last position, which I left in April of twenty
Speaker 16: twenty three, I co led the UAP portfolio for the
Speaker 16: National Geospacial Intelligence Agency, and some of the highest officials
Speaker 16: within the Department of Defense and intelligence community used to
Speaker 16: call on me to advise them on some of the
Speaker 16: hardest target sets that the country had.
Speaker 14: You are one of the most trusted former intelligence officials
Speaker 14: in the US defense and intelligence establishment.
Speaker 11: Yes, I was.
Speaker 14: You were trusted with the most intimate secrets. Yes, and
Speaker 14: he says the most earth shattering of those secrets were
Speaker 14: revealed its verteen nineteen when he was invited to join
Speaker 14: the UAP Task Force. You had the security classifications to
Speaker 14: go anywhere and ask anyone anything I had.
Speaker 16: Based on my foremost secure clearance and multiple polygraphs, I
Speaker 16: had the ability to be read into any program that
Speaker 16: I needed. At one point in time, I was extremely
Speaker 16: highly cleared.
Speaker 14: What conclusion did you come to at the end of
Speaker 14: your time on the UAP task course?
Speaker 16: The UAP Task Force was refused access to a broad
Speaker 16: crash retrieval program.
Speaker 14: When you say crash retrieval, what do you make.
Speaker 16: These are retrieving non human origin technical vehicles. You know,
Speaker 16: call it spacecraft if you will, non human exotic origin
Speaker 16: vehicles that have either landed or crashed.
Speaker 14: We have spacecraft from another species.
Speaker 11: We do. You know how many? Quite a number? You're
Speaker 11: kidding now.
Speaker 16: I thought it was totally nuts, and I thought at
Speaker 16: first I was being deceived.
Speaker 11: It was a ruse.
Speaker 16: People started confiding in me. They approached me. I have
Speaker 16: plenty of current former senior intelligence officers that came to me,
Speaker 16: many of which I knew almost my whole career, that
Speaker 16: can invide it to me. They were a part of
Speaker 16: a program. They named the program. I've never heard of it,
Speaker 16: and they they told me based on the oral testimony,
Speaker 16: and they provided me documents and other other proof that
Speaker 16: there was in fact a program that the UAP Task
Speaker 16: Force was not read into.
Speaker 14: You are religion that the US government has been concealing
Speaker 14: the existence on this planet of alien life.
Speaker 16: I would couch it as non human intelligence, you know, nhi,
Speaker 16: like we would like to say in our language.
Speaker 14: Why do you say that? Why do you say ni chine?
Speaker 16: I don't wouldn't necessarily denote origin. I don't think we
Speaker 16: have all the data to say, oh, they're coming from
Speaker 16: a certain a certain location.
Speaker 5: Okay, So we said earlier that we that we don't know.
Speaker 5: We don't know everything. That's what I'm talking about. We
Speaker 5: don't know everything. Everybody tell me, how's the audi is
Speaker 5: the audio? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 16: Okaytian and I cultured as somebody who studied physics, where
Speaker 16: maybe they're coming from a different physical dimension as described
Speaker 16: in quantum mechanics. We know there's extra dimensions due to
Speaker 16: high energy particle collisions, et cetera. And there's a theoretical
Speaker 16: framework to explain that.
Speaker 14: To be cut to the quick, you're saying, there is
Speaker 14: an intelligent species engaging with this planet.
Speaker 11: Yes, that's potentially extraterrestrial.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I speak for everybody sitting at home. That is
Speaker 14: a shock.
Speaker 16: It was to me, and I had a lot of
Speaker 16: sleepless nights.
Speaker 14: Grush says he's never personally seen non human intelligence, but
Speaker 14: he's spoken to enough people directly involved in what he
Speaker 14: calls the program that he's convinced it's real.
Speaker 16: I started out as a non believer. I came to
Speaker 16: the problem as an hardcore physics guy intel officer, so
Speaker 16: I have a you know, excuse my language, hype factor.
Speaker 16: I was very methodical, interviewing people who didn't know each other,
Speaker 16: making sure this wasn't some kind of cover up of
Speaker 16: some other program.
Speaker 14: He says he pressed to gain direct access to this program,
Speaker 14: and that's when his trouble started. Brush claims his investigation
Speaker 14: was stymied, his requests for access rebuffed.
Speaker 16: They shut the door in my face. They denied me
Speaker 16: access to these programs.
Speaker 14: Soon after, he says, he endured reprisals and retaliation from above.
Speaker 14: He then reported that information to the intelligence community Inspector General.
Speaker 14: That's why he's filed this whistleblower complaint. He says that
Speaker 14: experience is why he decided to go public here and
Speaker 14: in a recent article written by Leslie Kane in the debrief,
Speaker 14: You're not being paid for this interview.
Speaker 11: Now, I'm not why are you doing this?
Speaker 16: It's a sense of service, you know, call me a
Speaker 16: boy scout or whatever.
Speaker 11: It just a when I saw that kind of wrongdoing,
Speaker 11: I did.
Speaker 16: I don't want to be sixty seventy years old in
Speaker 16: the future and have that you know, could have, should have,
Speaker 16: would a kind of feeling where I could have made
Speaker 16: a difference. I did not want to live a life
Speaker 16: of regret.
Speaker 14: You are saying to the Human rights For the first time,
Speaker 14: an official intelligence representative at a high level from the
Speaker 14: US government is saying publicly, we are not alone.
Speaker 11: We're definitely not alone.
Speaker 16: Absolutely, the data points empirically that we're not alone.
Speaker 14: Yet empirically, you've seen that we have The United States
Speaker 14: has spice craft, intect craft we do. Do we have bodies?
Speaker 14: Do we have species?
Speaker 16: Well, naturally, when you recover something that's either landed or crashed,
Speaker 16: sometimes you encounter dead pilots. And I believe it or not,
Speaker 16: as as fantas has to cause that sounds it's true.
Speaker 14: Have you seen spacecraft.
Speaker 16: I've seen some interesting photos and I've read some very
Speaker 16: interesting reports.
Speaker 14: But he says the specific documents and photos that would
Speaker 14: prove his claims are still classified and he cannot disclose them.
Speaker 11: Here, let's deal with.
Speaker 14: The issue of your credibility. Why should we believe you.
Speaker 14: You're just somebody coming out of nowhere making claims that
Speaker 14: we really ultimately can't prove.
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, we provided the proof internally to the Inspector
Speaker 16: General in the Health Staff and when all the details,
Speaker 16: I mean, I have the credentials. I was an intelligence
Speaker 16: officer on the EP Task Force.
Speaker 14: But let's face it, allegations of aliens and their spacecraft
Speaker 14: are hard to accept.
Speaker 5: Even I think that's pretty good for in terms of
Speaker 5: discussion points. So let's go from there. Team, Let's start
Speaker 5: with debs.
Speaker 9: Okay, So I just want to say I think it's
Speaker 9: incorrect to say he was the first high ranking official.
Speaker 9: It's actually been many high ranking officials at this point,
Speaker 9: and prior to him as well. Obviously we have presidents
Speaker 9: talking about it now. But it's a little frustrating for
Speaker 9: Ross to say something like that. I feel like sometimes
Speaker 9: people need to do a little bit of research, Like
Speaker 9: he could have asked Rush about those previous testimonials maybe,
Speaker 9: and that would have been beneficial. But yes, of course,
Speaker 9: you know, it's very helpful to have him come forward
Speaker 9: and bravely tell everyone what he knows. I can't disagree
Speaker 9: with his assessment. He is also being very careful with
Speaker 9: his wording and saying that he's not sure where they're from,
Speaker 9: and I appreciate that because.
Speaker 5: He's probably not sure where they're and probably nobody is
Speaker 5: potentially Boston, Bia. How did that interview strike you? What
Speaker 5: are your thoughts coming out out of that?
Speaker 7: I definitely think the fact that, I mean, he looks credible,
Speaker 7: the way he speaks, you know, show you feel like
Speaker 7: you can totally feel that he's trying to be as
Speaker 7: truthful and give as much information. The fact that he's
Speaker 7: saying he doesn't want to live with regret that he
Speaker 7: didn't put it out there, the fact that he was
Speaker 7: willing to risk at all, and when he started asking them,
Speaker 7: even though he was put on this task force, when
Speaker 7: he started asking some tough questions, that's when they started
Speaker 7: shutting him out. And I don't think he would risk
Speaker 7: his career to just come out and you know, just.
Speaker 6: Stay all these things.
Speaker 7: And now you have now fast forward where our current
Speaker 7: administration and is admitting to these to having these things.
Speaker 7: So obviously, I think this is good for him because
Speaker 7: I think we can see that what he has been saying,
Speaker 7: we validated some of that information, you know, like.
Speaker 5: The trust three years ago.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and now here we are three years later and
Speaker 7: our administration is confirming this information. So I give him
Speaker 7: lots of props for coming out and speaking his truth.
Speaker 5: So just real briefly, how did it make you feel?
Speaker 5: What his words, what he said.
Speaker 7: It definitely resonated, He's that's what me And like you
Speaker 7: can tell how his credibility.
Speaker 5: I mean, how did it make you feel.
Speaker 6: Like do I believe him or not?
Speaker 5: Or like how do you feel like? Okay, Like for me,
Speaker 5: the way I would answer our question, it kind of
Speaker 5: like it kind of gives me this shock, this kind
Speaker 5: of wow, you know, listening to him talk and reveal
Speaker 5: the things that he's revealed, knowing what he knows. So
Speaker 5: that's kind of how I feel. I'm just I always
Speaker 5: ask people how did that make you feel? So that
Speaker 5: I'll ask the others that question as well.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think it definitely made me feel
Speaker 7: like we're not in any imminent danger, but.
Speaker 6: The fact that it made me feel like.
Speaker 7: It's incredible what we don't know, and obviously, like you're
Speaker 7: talking about your box, like we need to think outside
Speaker 7: the box because there is. We have to be open
Speaker 7: to what we don't know, or we should be anyway,
Speaker 7: because there is. We still have a lot to learn
Speaker 7: and we still you know, and that's part of growth.
Speaker 6: So I'm all.
Speaker 5: For it for doctor Tim. Let's go this one real quick.
Speaker 14: I mean, how much of this stuff, you know, the
Speaker 14: the mystical stuff, do you attribute to.
Speaker 7: Just screen understand, yes, scientifically.
Speaker 17: One hundred.
Speaker 5: I was going to say, do you think there's anything
Speaker 5: out there?
Speaker 18: I mean, it's such a hard concept to even grasp,
Speaker 18: but the idea that there are things that defy all explanations,
Speaker 18: even beyond our own comprehensions or whatever, there's actually something
Speaker 18: truly mystical out there or is it just stuff that
Speaker 18: we don't have the right sensory organs or we don't
Speaker 18: have the right tools of measurement to understand it.
Speaker 14: At this point, both.
Speaker 19: Both and you're going to get that answer to a
Speaker 19: lot of questions tonight. Both we don't understand anything. See,
Speaker 19: that's this is things at the core of it. We
Speaker 19: don't understand anything. Now we know how some things work,
Speaker 19: but do we understand it understanding and being able to
Speaker 19: I don't know how combustion engine works, but I can
Speaker 19: drive a car. Yeah you know, I don't. I could
Speaker 19: not build a computer. I don't really know how computer works,
Speaker 19: but I use them all the time.
Speaker 17: So it's kind of like that. Our our very physical sciences.
Speaker 19: Our Newtonian physics, clearly is just missing a piece of
Speaker 19: the equation. There's something that it just has not factored
Speaker 19: in yet, which I suspect is consciousness.
Speaker 17: That's underpinning the whole thing. So is there something out there?
Speaker 17: Clearly there is, Do we have any inkling what it is?
Speaker 19: Or have we ever?
Speaker 17: Probably not?
Speaker 19: Can we even know?
Speaker 17: I don't know.
Speaker 19: I mean we're limited by primate brains, and even though
Speaker 19: we have a very advanced and highly evolved primate brain,
Speaker 19: that is a physical construct within a physical theming setting,
Speaker 19: and so there are going to be things.
Speaker 17: That we may never be able to grasp as long
Speaker 17: as we are in that physical life.
Speaker 4: I think we're having some technically difficulties.
Speaker 5: Are we No, We're good. Okay, that was not me speaking,
Speaker 5: That was somebody more intelligent than I.
Speaker 6: Jules is asking who it was that Steve.
Speaker 5: Okay, So Steve did not identify himself. He was on
Speaker 5: with our friend Matt Knapp of Bigfoot Crossroads. Tim knows him,
Speaker 5: Bia knows him, Kashi knows him, and Deb knows him.
Speaker 5: Uh and uh Man. Matt is a great interviewer. I've
Speaker 5: said that a gazillion times. I'll probably say to a
Speaker 5: gazillion more times. And Steve was brilliant. This is a
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame level discussion that they had. Parts of
Speaker 5: that discussion will remain in my library probably forever. Let's
Speaker 5: go with the Kashi David Grush, and then I'm going
Speaker 5: to get him to react to both, because you reacted
Speaker 5: to this last week. But David Grush, how did that
Speaker 5: make you feel?
Speaker 6: Number?
Speaker 4: One?
Speaker 6: Home made me feel disappointed, disappointed that he had to
Speaker 6: go through what he had to go through just to
Speaker 6: speak up the fact that, you know, I'm not included.
Speaker 6: There was all the beatings that he had to take,
Speaker 6: you know, this personal life, and I mean we saw
Speaker 6: it all play out on X and it was just horrifying.
Speaker 6: It was just terrible. So I'm disappointed in our leadership
Speaker 6: that put him there to begin with to have to
Speaker 6: do that. But what they'd resonate big time with me.
Speaker 6: That really kind of went with the discussion we were having.
Speaker 6: Is the whole multi dimensional interdimensional as we're talking about Bigfoot,
Speaker 6: And that's definitely how I think about Bigfoot. You know,
Speaker 6: it's like somehow the ability and I don't know if
Speaker 6: it has the ability. He just happens to come and go.
Speaker 6: You know, it goes with the flow. You know, maybe
Speaker 6: he doesn't mean to come in and out. But also
Speaker 6: his stressing Nhi that it's not necessarily about location, that
Speaker 6: always makes me think USO is in underwater. You know,
Speaker 6: he is telling us what's going on without really saying it,
Speaker 6: in my opinion, so he's leaving us a lot of breadcrumbs. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it got total respect for the man. Total respect for
Speaker 6: the man.
Speaker 5: Me too, as they say in Portuguese. Respect respect ahead, ruthy.
Speaker 4: Okay. Though, with anybody that tries to come out to
Speaker 4: tell us the truth, either we take it or we don't. Right,
Speaker 4: some people will say this person is crazy, this person
Speaker 4: is a fake. There's been a lot of people like
Speaker 4: Louis Anders Sander. I think I'm saying his name wrong. Yes,
Speaker 4: So there's all of them. They come out and tell
Speaker 4: us what they what they've seen, what they experienced, and
Speaker 4: most people don't believe it until it freaking happens. And
Speaker 4: with with what's his name Shaw, the most recent.
Speaker 20: Yes, so you're talking about the one that just came out.
Speaker 20: Oh my god, when they did the the UFO thing
Speaker 20: with the Supreme Court.
Speaker 4: I think it was the youngest guy. You were just
Speaker 4: talking about him. We're just talking about him. So even
Speaker 4: he tells us what's going on, and people don't want
Speaker 4: to believe he's seen all these things, and there's people
Speaker 4: that told him certain things that we cannot know. And
Speaker 4: it's in our faces, just like when it comes to
Speaker 4: like the Bigfoot stuff, it's in our faces. If we
Speaker 4: don't want to believe it. We don't want we don't
Speaker 4: want to believe it, but people are telling us and
Speaker 4: letting us know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean ten thousand people that have made these
Speaker 5: reports or so can't be lying. Nope, even only one
Speaker 5: of them has to be right. In the nineteen sixty
Speaker 5: seven film Still Stanza's Unrefuted and they played some video
Speaker 5: at the Austin Film Festival. All this is gonna come out,
Speaker 5: It's gonna debunk the Patterson gimblin film how many months ago?
Speaker 5: Wus that be a we haven't. We're still waiting. We
Speaker 5: can do like the whole Cogan here, still waiting, still waiting.
Speaker 5: Cannot debunk that film. You cannot do it. You cannot
Speaker 5: do it. That is a creature walking across a fucking
Speaker 5: sandbar in nineties.
Speaker 4: And it's been here for thousands of years. People have
Speaker 4: been talking about it for thousands of years.
Speaker 5: Definitely, But I'm just talking about that film. It was
Speaker 5: shot on sixteen millimeter films fifty nine years ago. Well
Speaker 5: October will be fifty nine years ago. You couldn't have
Speaker 5: faked it. I'm sorry, kids, you could not have faked that.
Speaker 5: A guy in the suit is not gonna look like that.
Speaker 7: And the way she looks up at the camera, you know,
Speaker 7: the fact that it's sensed that it was being watched.
Speaker 5: I mean, Benny, I'll send it to you. It's the
Speaker 5: Patterson Gimlin film. If you want to look on YouTube,
Speaker 5: there's a four K version of it. Doctor Tim your
Speaker 5: thought and come off mute now, because you're about to
Speaker 5: talk your thoughts on what David Grush had to say.
Speaker 5: How did that make you feel? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Well, First of all, I got to show off one
Speaker 3: of my private positions here real quick.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 6: Screen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to give me a sec there, there
Speaker 5: we go. Let's go to doctor.
Speaker 4: Tim and that's beautiful.
Speaker 6: There is this.
Speaker 5: Pisses me off?
Speaker 3: This who's our camera man? Get that intern spotlight?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I need, all right.
Speaker 3: So here's my petty. This is signed as you say
Speaker 3: down here by Gimling.
Speaker 6: Wow Wow Tim.
Speaker 5: Bob Roger died a long time ago, a long time ago.
Speaker 5: But Bob is Bob is Bob I heard is not
Speaker 5: doing well, but he's still out there. You can see
Speaker 5: the man. Even in this photograph right here. You can
Speaker 5: see it's a girl and I'm sorry nobody, And look
Speaker 5: how long her arms are. Nobody is going to make
Speaker 5: a monster suit. That's a girl, and especially in nineteen
Speaker 5: sixty seven, that wasn't gonna happen, right harah, Sorry guys,
Speaker 5: there she is Now.
Speaker 3: I can't disagree with that, but I will say that,
Speaker 3: you know what, no matter what the truth of the
Speaker 3: Patterson Gemlin film is, it doesn't take away from the
Speaker 3: reality of Bigfoot itself. So I do caution people and
Speaker 3: being you know, connecting them too much. But it happens
Speaker 3: sometimes in ufology, right like that there are fake things
Speaker 3: out there in ufology, and sometimes if people put too
Speaker 3: much stocking into any one thing, then they end up
Speaker 3: getting disappointed and it kind of ruins the whole topic
Speaker 3: for them. And I think ufology has been around or
Speaker 3: the entire existence of community, just like Bigfoot. And so
Speaker 3: the Patty Patty is complicated. Maybe we can talk more
Speaker 3: about Patty one night. But onto what DJ was asking,
Speaker 3: I want to follow with a cost you real quick.
Speaker 3: She brought up you us O S so unidentified sub
Speaker 3: merged objects. I had the pleasure of speaking with Kevin
Speaker 3: Kanooth and he's he was addressing the Arrow report, and
Speaker 3: he said that, you know, his work with U A
Speaker 3: p X. Their findings were presented to Arrow. He made
Speaker 3: a point of saying that because essentially Arrow lied in
Speaker 3: their first historical report when they said the Arrow had
Speaker 3: not received any scientific academic briefings, But that was a lie.
Speaker 3: U a p X had briefed Arrow, and he said
Speaker 3: he they had briefed every three letter agency and the
Speaker 3: one question that they all asked U a p X
Speaker 3: was what are your capabilities of detecting UAPs underwater? That's
Speaker 3: the one thing they all ask them.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: Interesting, yes, very very interesting. That interview that DJ played,
Speaker 3: the guy brought up consciousness. I had the pleasure of
Speaker 3: speaking recently with Italian astrophysicists massy Mo Tia Dorani, and
Speaker 3: I asked him, you know, what do you think the
Speaker 3: next breakthrough could be? And by the way, Massewmo he's
Speaker 3: an expert in the Hesteline lights. If you're not familiar
Speaker 3: with those, google those. But he actually and I had
Speaker 3: been wondering this because I'm right down the road in
Speaker 3: west from western North Carolina where we have something called
Speaker 3: the Brown Mountain lights, and Massimo was familiar with the
Speaker 3: Brown Mounta lights and he does believe that the phenomenon
Speaker 3: that is the Histelin lights could be associated with the
Speaker 3: Brown mount lights, like they could be the same type
Speaker 3: of phenomenon. But Massimo said that people might think he's crazy,
Speaker 3: but he thinks the next breakthrough could be the potential
Speaker 3: discovery that consciousness is a fundamental force of the universe,
Speaker 3: no different than gravity. And I was just like, WHOA,
Speaker 3: that's heavy. That's heavy right there.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: That's also really hard to process because.
Speaker 5: It does.
Speaker 3: Put humans in sort of a central role in the
Speaker 3: universe if you think about it.
Speaker 5: Timmy, let me ask you a question on this topic
Speaker 5: on consciousness. Yes, you would you agree that if you
Speaker 5: died tomorrow, your consciousness would your body would just be
Speaker 5: the you know, the shell, and your consciousness would would
Speaker 5: move on to a different a different plane of existence set.
Speaker 5: Would you agree with that? Or you think your consciousness
Speaker 5: dies when you die?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think that's a definition situation too,
Speaker 3: because we have this term called soul.
Speaker 5: Yeah, whatever you want to call it, Well, but are you?
Speaker 3: Are you calling it the same thing is soul? And
Speaker 3: what about the rest of the planet. Y'all better help
Speaker 3: me out here, right, because his soul and consciousness the
Speaker 3: same thing.
Speaker 5: Well, let's call for just for the sake of this discussion,
Speaker 5: because Donald Hoffman is not sitting here from the University
Speaker 5: of calat or Vine for this discussion. Let's call it
Speaker 5: the scene that your soul that is part is some
Speaker 5: intertwined in your consciousness. Is that fair?
Speaker 3: Well, I'll just stick with soul and say I do
Speaker 3: believe my soul will carry on, okay, the death of
Speaker 3: my body. I'm I'm not going to intertwine consciousness. That's
Speaker 3: I'm not prepared to that at the moment.
Speaker 5: How would you define how would you define the two
Speaker 5: of them? Or what do you see as? And anybody
Speaker 5: on the panel just chime in with this, go ahead
Speaker 5: and jump in. And how is your soul different than
Speaker 5: your consciousness on this? Please?
Speaker 9: So when you talk to people about their experiences with
Speaker 9: light beings or their experience with death experiences, they often
Speaker 9: talk about, you're much broader when you have died. So
Speaker 9: consciousness is almost like a very narrow version of what
Speaker 9: we actually are. It's what we use is to state
Speaker 9: it ourselves when we're in the show, But when we
Speaker 9: have died, it be gets it gets much bigger, like
Speaker 9: we can handle a lot more. Our soul is much broader.
Speaker 5: So our soul, you're saying, is broader than our consciousness. Yes,
Speaker 5: okay Akashi, Yeah.
Speaker 6: You know you think you can go all over the
Speaker 6: place on this one.
Speaker 15: But I'm thinking, you know, I always thought of consciousness
Speaker 15: being more of the the awareness of what's out there like that,
Speaker 15: whether it's a very narrow awareness or an expanded consciousness.
Speaker 6: The situation your soul to me as my ess what
Speaker 6: makes me me? It connects me to my higher self,
Speaker 6: you know, so I start thinking about you know, higher
Speaker 6: self and how it comes into play with you know,
Speaker 6: who I am inside at this moment. You know, I
Speaker 6: am definitely one that says energy does not die, It
Speaker 6: just transfers. You know how I feel about reincarnation, you know,
Speaker 6: and that whole you know, your ability to choose your adventure.
Speaker 6: So to me, it's just two different, two different things.
Speaker 5: You know, well, and what you just stated right there
Speaker 5: about energy not dying, that is actually a part of
Speaker 5: Newtonian physics. Ah, what's the difference between your soul and
Speaker 5: your consciousness in your mind? I think because we don't,
Speaker 5: let's face it, none of us, no, but.
Speaker 6: One of us know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like your soul and your consciousness goes
Speaker 7: hand in hand. If you think of when you've gone
Speaker 7: to a funeral, you can tell there's no soul, there's
Speaker 7: no consciousness, there's the life has been sucked out of
Speaker 7: this person.
Speaker 6: So I do think they go hand in hand.
Speaker 7: And you know, so I do think that it definitely
Speaker 7: leaves us and you're just left with a shell. But
Speaker 7: I do think it goes, it continues on in other ways.
Speaker 7: I don't think that's the end of us. I think
Speaker 7: we continue in some other form, some other way. But
Speaker 7: I do think they kind of go hand in hand.
Speaker 7: The soul, our consciousness, it's all related to us being alive.
Speaker 5: So I'm with Bia on that. Let's let's go see whatbless.
Speaker 4: Okay, So my take is, your consciousness is you right,
Speaker 4: every thought that you ever had, every emotion, every heartbreak,
Speaker 4: every happiness. But when that's gone, you have your soul,
Speaker 4: And yes, it goes hand to hand. But your true sadness,
Speaker 4: your true happiness, your true story, is your conscience. And
Speaker 4: once that's gone, there's nothing else but.
Speaker 5: With the soul. Okay, I'm gonna put Tim back in there.
Speaker 5: Tim is it? So, first of all, my answer is
Speaker 5: I don't know. But if I'm going to expound upon this,
Speaker 5: is it possible that the consciousness is your ability to
Speaker 5: connect with other people's consciousness and or other intelligent beings
Speaker 5: in the universe and or something like Bigfoot and or
Speaker 5: ghosts or paranormal Is it possible that that's your consciousness?
Speaker 5: While what Akashi said earlier, your soul, what leaves you
Speaker 5: is kind of like your imprint on the universe, what
Speaker 5: you leave behind, your screen memory if you will.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, definitely and I do want to before the night,
Speaker 3: so I want to chime in on the Davy Crush
Speaker 3: thing please, but definitely DJ because you know, that's one
Speaker 3: of the enduring mysteries of humanity. And this goes back
Speaker 3: to what you were saying earlier, like hunters. And by
Speaker 3: the way, this hunter gatherer instinct of humanity has been
Speaker 3: around for quite in a long time. Not not just
Speaker 3: a Mississippi right, not just row Missippi squirrel hunters, but
Speaker 3: but for quite a long time, not just my daddy's
Speaker 3: serving up squirrel brains and scrambled eggs. It's been around
Speaker 3: for quite a while. Say you two tigers, you know,
Speaker 3: Neanderthals anyway, But that's one of the enduring mysteries of humankind,
Speaker 3: and that is this notion that we seem to have
Speaker 3: a shared sense of good and right and morality that
Speaker 3: you can't really explain. And it seems to be mutually
Speaker 3: exclusive of religion, of ethnicity, of you know, gender, age.
Speaker 3: We seem to have some sort of innate understanding of
Speaker 3: what is right. And that is a mystery. And this
Speaker 3: could fall into line with what you are describing as consciousness,
Speaker 3: and this could be why we look through the scope
Speaker 3: on a gun and see a bigfoot and we recognize, hey,
Speaker 3: we don't need to harm this creature.
Speaker 5: It's another human. Yeah, And I was kind of using
Speaker 5: Kim to say because that there is a big hunting
Speaker 5: population and that one of the archetypes among hunters is
Speaker 5: simply that if you want to take something down in
Speaker 5: the woods, and that's the phraseology they'll use, and you
Speaker 5: have the power. Your rifle has the power to take
Speaker 5: it down, and it's legal because there's certain seasons that
Speaker 5: you can take down certain animals. There's there's a bow season,
Speaker 5: there's even people. There's a black powder season where it's
Speaker 5: very short, but the only thing you can hunt with
Speaker 5: is black powder rifles. And then so what I'm getting at,
Speaker 5: if there were a brown bear or grizzly, which don't
Speaker 5: exist in Mississippi, and a hunter we're out there and
Speaker 5: he were hunting deer, but he ran into a bear
Speaker 5: and said, you know, I have the firepower to take
Speaker 5: it down, they would probably take it down because either
Speaker 5: again to eat or to mount. That's the way hunters think,
Speaker 5: because when you have a weapon, you are the apex
Speaker 5: predator in the woods. Well, hunters that have encountered sasquatch
Speaker 5: have discovered that they don't feel like the apex predator
Speaker 5: in the woods because now they start in Mississippi squirrel eye.
Speaker 3: Well, and let's keep this in mind too, because this
Speaker 3: may not be the most politically correct viewpoint of mankind,
Speaker 3: of males of men and women. But then again, this
Speaker 3: is also a primordial instinct. Let's not forget this, and
Speaker 3: very well could be the reason we're all able to
Speaker 3: sit here and be chatting tonight, because if humans did not,
Speaker 3: for the vast majority of our existences, have this primordial
Speaker 3: instinct to hunt food and cook it and eat it,
Speaker 3: then we would probably be in trouble species, right, So
Speaker 3: this is a primordial instinct. Our human bodies also are
Speaker 3: uncannily good at telling ourselves, Hey, we need to stay
Speaker 3: alive somehow, and our brain can do a lot of
Speaker 3: crazy things to us to make that happen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've become the dominant species on the planet. And
Speaker 5: when people in the woods encounter because when you're in
Speaker 5: the woods as a hunter, it's different than being a hiker.
Speaker 5: When you're in the woods as a hiker, you're looking
Speaker 5: to just be part of nature and exist within nature
Speaker 5: and move through nature. When you're in there as a hunter,
Speaker 5: you're in there to take an animal to harvest, an
Speaker 5: animal with which to eat. And when you discover an
Speaker 5: animal that is more you feel is more powerful, or
Speaker 5: if you took a shot at it, well, there might
Speaker 5: be one that comes up behind me and hits me
Speaker 5: in the head with a log. And believe me, they
Speaker 5: are a sasquats that have thrown logs that have whizzed
Speaker 5: by people's head to land on the ground once but
Speaker 5: over and over. And that's where how when they want
Speaker 5: to chase people out of an area.
Speaker 3: So that's go ahead, Tim, I want to tell you
Speaker 3: something interesting real quick like this. I think it's fascinating
Speaker 3: because this could be why we see humans acting the
Speaker 3: way they are today because for the first time in
Speaker 3: human history, a very interesting phenomenon is happening, and that
Speaker 3: is we live our daily lives in perpetual, perpetually satiated.
Speaker 3: We are never our bodies are never truly in need
Speaker 3: of food. We always have an immediate source of snacks
Speaker 3: of food in the pantry. And this is the vast
Speaker 3: majority of the population. Mind Johnnerson. There's exceptions in the refrigerator,
Speaker 3: but our bodies are now for the first time ever
Speaker 3: perpetually satiated. Well, we have a lot of microorganisms in
Speaker 3: our gut, in our gut file, and it's and they
Speaker 3: actually are the ones that tend to live on things
Speaker 3: like carbohydrates and fats. That's the majority of the American diet.
Speaker 3: And these micro organisms can literally control our emotions and
Speaker 3: our behaviors to put more of the food that they
Speaker 3: survive on into our bodies. So that may actually be
Speaker 3: the reason we act the way we do as a society.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just they worry about whether or not they're
Speaker 5: going to become conscious because they could destroy us from
Speaker 5: the inside. It's true. Now a show for our next
Speaker 5: conspiracy show blog.
Speaker 3: Bust out of the Theater, Good One, attack the whole.
Speaker 6: Town and like have you like think of it this way.
Speaker 7: Sometimes you've been running around crazy, super busy, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 7: I haven't eaten today, and all of a sudden, now
Speaker 7: you're more hungrier than you were and if you had
Speaker 7: because I think our consciousness is like you thought you
Speaker 7: had the thought and now you're hungry and it's telling
Speaker 7: your body, oh, you need to eat. But otherwise you
Speaker 7: would have kept going in its psych yeah, so there.
Speaker 5: Was almost some Brooklyn in there. There was almost like
Speaker 5: he or the brunch.
Speaker 21: Hey, Doctor Mounts, oh.
Speaker 5: Man August first Calling All Beings episode, Just ask Nathan.
Speaker 5: This was made by someone that you guys may or
Speaker 5: may not have heard of named Akashi. Chris made this
Speaker 5: artwork and Doctor Mounts. You'll be invited back if you
Speaker 5: What we're gonna do is let people pop on for
Speaker 5: a couple of minutes and ask Nathan a questions. We're
Speaker 5: gonna have some special guests, so if you want to
Speaker 5: be one of those, we will send you an invite.
Speaker 5: You remember, Nathan, I'm sure because the first the first
Speaker 5: roundtable we did with these guys was calling All being
Speaker 5: and and all things unexplained? And Smithy's like, is this
Speaker 5: like a gang fight? Is this like the outsider? Is
Speaker 5: there some shit? It's pretty funny.
Speaker 6: Anchor man when they all went to the to the fight,
Speaker 6: did he kill the guy?
Speaker 2: What a trident?
Speaker 3: The time? It works every time.
Speaker 5: Well, you know Yogi Bearra's famous he said fifty percent
Speaker 5: of baseball is seventy five percent mental. So anyway, anyway,
Speaker 5: it's been a great night, guys. Uh, this has been
Speaker 5: a hell of a lot of fun. We'll see you
Speaker 5: on August first for ask Nathan. In the offing. We
Speaker 5: also have a Canadian roundtable with your co host Sati
Speaker 5: uh and a bunch of other cool Canadians from from
Speaker 5: the UFO and true crime space. Basically everybody there loves
Speaker 5: UFOs and just you know, depending on where they're half
Speaker 5: true crime and half UFOs. We have a Latina round
Speaker 5: table that's coming up, hosted by Boston via Akashi, Ruthie
Speaker 5: Uh and possibly one of my colleagues Lose Castile. So
Speaker 5: that should be fun. A Latina round table. And there's
Speaker 5: no telling what topics are going to come up there,
Speaker 5: but most interesting. Uh oh, you're on mute so we
Speaker 5: can't hear you. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Sorry, that's probably when the Lettice talk is coming, right,
Speaker 7: Are you saving it for that one?
Speaker 6: That's true? Wait, there we go, I will bring the
Speaker 6: Lettuce story will be coming the next the next thing
Speaker 6: people to my movie night DJ. Yes, So on Friday,
Speaker 6: I don't I can't put anything up on your screen.
Speaker 6: I can't manage anything.
Speaker 5: I don't think you can put anything in the studio.
Speaker 6: Then okay, okay, well I can't think right now. But
Speaker 6: so anyway, on Friday night. I will be hosting a
Speaker 6: classic movie night. It is Movies from an Asylum. We'll
Speaker 6: be playing nineteen thirties the Coco Nuts with the Marx
Speaker 6: Brothers and we're gonna have Boston b I will be there.
Speaker 6: I think Ruthie will be there and Aim. You're invited, Dubs,
Speaker 6: djit if you guys would like to be live. It's
Speaker 6: gonna be games, intermission, fun, commercials, and we're gonna be
Speaker 6: all black and white. It's air. We're gonna be all
Speaker 6: black and white man.
Speaker 5: Nobody does cooler stuff than Akashi Christ It's gonna be
Speaker 5: really fun.
Speaker 6: I got some really fun games for intermissions.
Speaker 7: So July thirty first, at what time?
Speaker 6: I make sure you? I'm sorry? Thank you, six pm
Speaker 6: Central Friday night. It's gonna be a party, so to
Speaker 6: he're invited for the live.
Speaker 3: Part Spider Man Noir. I think I'm ready for this.
Speaker 6: It sent me allir sis me.
Speaker 5: We will pump it out on on Twitter as well.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 5: Akashi puts so much work into her broadcast. When you
Speaker 5: talk about content creators, Bia and I have had some
Speaker 5: discussions about content creators that are really lazy and kind
Speaker 5: of just talk bad about people as they're They call
Speaker 5: that content. Akasha puts so much work into her content
Speaker 5: with visual and audio things and spends a week preparing
Speaker 5: for a show.
Speaker 6: So actually too, I'm just kidding. I want to be proud.
Speaker 6: I love that you guys are like that, and you
Speaker 6: guys are proud of what you put together instead of
Speaker 6: I love being part of this team.
Speaker 5: I don't put anywhere near the work into it that
Speaker 5: you do. I'm just basically talking head. So I admire
Speaker 5: that you do, and I know Tim does as well.
Speaker 5: Tim is similar to you that he puts a lot
Speaker 5: of into his stuff. He keeps that team going.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: He's the one who does all the work to get
Speaker 5: the guests and so forth.
Speaker 6: So what do you have going on next?
Speaker 4: Timmy?
Speaker 6: Doctor?
Speaker 11: Tim?
Speaker 2: Excuse me, doctor, definitely call me Tim.
Speaker 3: Well, I am excited about some upcoming podcast I've got
Speaker 3: coming up. Let me uh and thanks for asking. A
Speaker 3: matter of fact, one I've got coming up it is
Speaker 3: going to be with Let me make sure I say
Speaker 3: this right.
Speaker 5: Uh, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: Legendary UFO researcher Kevin Randall some of you.
Speaker 5: Oh he knows about some crash retrieval stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, Yeah, Kevin, he has a new book coming out,
Speaker 3: so he's gonna be coming on All Things Unexplained that
Speaker 3: will be released the same day that his new book
Speaker 3: comes out, August twenty fifth. And then I'm also very
Speaker 3: excited to speak to physicist Jenny Lorraine Nilsen. She is
Speaker 3: pretty active on X. She has a lot of interesting
Speaker 3: physics research and she's got some She's had her own
Speaker 3: UFO encounter, she's got a lot of thoughts on the
Speaker 3: general Neil McCaslin case, and so looking forward to that.
Speaker 3: That should be quite interesting. And I continue to dig
Speaker 3: into these missing persons cases Monica Resa, Neil McCaslin, Melissa Cassius.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately they discovered her body, and so yeah, I continue
Speaker 3: that work as well.
Speaker 5: I love it, man. I'm so glad that we have
Speaker 5: reconnected and we're starting to do shows together again. BA
Speaker 5: and I spent the better part of two years working
Speaker 5: on the Karen Reid case and now it's just in
Speaker 5: civil proceedings now and fighting back and forth. So we'll
Speaker 5: provide some coverage on that as as we can or
Speaker 5: as we think that we can add value to it.
Speaker 5: But I'm very happy to have reconnected with my Ufo
Speaker 5: family and my Bigfoot family, and so you can expect
Speaker 5: more content like this where we debate consciousness and the soul.
Speaker 4: May I interrupt? Okay, mister, I've been holding back this
Speaker 4: whole time. Have you ever heard of Martin the Water Simolier,
Speaker 4: No detail, Martin the Water Simolier. I don't know why,
Speaker 4: but he reminds me of you.
Speaker 6: We're gonna have to look that up.
Speaker 4: Wrote that up. Martin the Water Smolier. Okay, you guys
Speaker 4: have the same vibe. Beautiful skin. I love it.
Speaker 14: Well.
Speaker 3: I have been moisturizing, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we water.
Speaker 6: Look his forehead, it's so smooth.
Speaker 3: And I did just visit Saint Augustine, Florida. The found
Speaker 3: literally the yes, yep, he.
Speaker 4: Thinks about that too.
Speaker 6: He tells you there, Martin the Water Somonia tells you
Speaker 6: what water to drink, what's not good for you hydration?
Speaker 4: And you are his brother. Well thanks, and it's amazing
Speaker 4: and beautiful.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, I'm beautiful. Sixty four ounces of water
Speaker 3: a day followed by ten ounces of smoky mountain squat shun.
Speaker 5: And that's what you can take the boy out of Mississippi.
Speaker 5: But you can't take the boy.
Speaker 6: Lots of water and moonshine.
Speaker 3: Yes out to my friend and check him out it,
Speaker 3: but drink responsibly smoking.
Speaker 6: Because I'm beautiful. Martin Martins from Germany.
Speaker 3: Germany. You can you can. Here's it, insider. You can
Speaker 3: also run your vehicle on this if you.
Speaker 6: Secret inventions, that's the secret inventions file.
Speaker 3: That's why you don't tell them. Timmy, why do you
Speaker 3: think they had a bootleg this stuff?
Speaker 5: You guys are so you guys are so hilarious. I
Speaker 5: love the way these shows have been ending. It's either
Speaker 5: Akashi's only fans are now tim with beautiful skin, I'm having.
Speaker 2: Only fans cow it's a joke. People.
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, let me get that jpeg up on there.
Speaker 2: I believe my.
Speaker 5: I believe only all right, guys, we got to cut
Speaker 5: it off before somebody gets in trouble and it's probably
Speaker 5: gonna be this uh, thank you, roundtable members. Boston bea Ruthie.
Speaker 6: Track.
Speaker 3: I'm from some I would cue some banjos right now.
Speaker 6: No, no, no.
Speaker 9: I had a couple of times I wanted to say.
Speaker 5: Yes, the show go ahead.
Speaker 9: First of all, we're sinked again because I have a
Speaker 9: noir video coming out tomorrow on Dreams Generator a Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 6: We're entangled, you not, We're entangled. We're all entangled in
Speaker 6: this group.
Speaker 9: And then the real quick question I had you can
Speaker 9: answer yesterday, not because we're wrapping up for Tim earlier,
Speaker 9: was do you think that they sensed the eruption ahead
Speaker 9: of time?
Speaker 3: I don't know how to answer that.
Speaker 5: I mean it, you know, I mean you would.
Speaker 3: Have I'm sorry, after Joel's posted.
Speaker 5: The doctor Doctor, Tim's only fan that could be in
Speaker 5: the offing. I mean you you would You would have
Speaker 5: to think that as in tune to the forest as
Speaker 5: they are. I mean, how could they not? You know
Speaker 5: what I mean? I mean it only it makes sense
Speaker 5: that they would would have sensed that something was about
Speaker 5: to happen. And it's probably very terrifying because it's the
Speaker 5: ecosystem that they live in, so it's pretty scary.
Speaker 3: That's a great question, and you know what, it could
Speaker 3: explain why maybe a lot of them did managed to
Speaker 3: escape hopefully. And yeah, and the only fans thing. You know,
Speaker 3: you know what they say about people big with big feet,
Speaker 3: don't you.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure? I want to go ahead? What are.
Speaker 22: They wear?
Speaker 3: Big shoes?
Speaker 11: Man?
Speaker 5: I still can't. I got to say that Akashi Chris
Speaker 5: only fans. I got to dig into the uh the
Speaker 5: CAB's I can keeping.
Speaker 6: One for you man, a one dollar two dollars. People
Speaker 6: are just paying for those same mens. There you missed
Speaker 6: his talk about his feet.
Speaker 7: He actually went on and on one time how beautiful
Speaker 7: his feet was.
Speaker 6: That there we go.
Speaker 5: I was hoping.
Speaker 6: I was literally it was a whole thing. It was
Speaker 6: a whole thing.
Speaker 5: I said, one thing into a whole things.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I have ideas.
Speaker 3: Proctologists always hang out with those two.
Speaker 4: May I ask one last question?
Speaker 5: Please?
Speaker 4: Okay, So, ladies and gentlemen, if you were to talk
Speaker 4: to him alien right now, what would you tell them?
Speaker 4: Is the number one thing that they need to eat?
Speaker 4: A think? What's your favorite meal?
Speaker 5: Oh boy, Tim, go ahead? Oh no, sorry, debs, you
Speaker 5: go ahead.
Speaker 9: I'm just so afraid that they'd get hurt by what
Speaker 9: I like to eat. I love her food that includes
Speaker 9: Indian and Korean, Trapanese, Chinese, and of course Mexican food
Speaker 9: because my dad's Texans, so you know. So I would
Speaker 9: be afraid that those would be harmful for them. So
Speaker 9: I would just tell them to drink lots of water, not.
Speaker 5: Very fulfilling filling of the belly. Tim, what are you
Speaker 5: telling you the uh the other non human intelligence? You
Speaker 5: want them tea?
Speaker 3: Well, for me, this is no brainer because it may
Speaker 3: be happening already. It may already be connected with aliens
Speaker 3: and cattle mutilations. It's my favorite theory about cattle mutilations,
Speaker 3: and that is, if aliens are us from the future,
Speaker 3: they may simply be coming back to aduct cattle for
Speaker 3: what could be a rare delicacy in the future, and
Speaker 3: that is a steak. Nice steak.
Speaker 5: I mean for me, I'd rather have like a smash
Speaker 5: burger with cheese. But okay, that's fine. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 5: you're a higher You're a little bit more of a
Speaker 5: you know, hoity toity than me. Go ahead to akashi.
Speaker 6: Blone. Oh yeah, and so east Flue. It is like
Speaker 6: like you get transported to a different world. So I'm
Speaker 6: hoping that that will make them like.
Speaker 5: Keep us, Ruthie. I love it fun.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Ruthie, I will say a seafood.
Speaker 12: Oil, seafood boil.
Speaker 4: I want everything I want, I want I want octopus,
Speaker 4: I want crabs, I want oh my god, everything seafood everything.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm, totally. Uh what what are you telling the
Speaker 5: Aliens they need to eat?
Speaker 7: I think they need to try a Cuban dish, and
Speaker 7: I think they will be satisfied for the rest of
Speaker 7: their life.
Speaker 6: Some lichon, some.
Speaker 7: Black beans and rice, some yuca, and some sweet plantains.
Speaker 5: So it's a complete meal. Man, I can't argue a
Speaker 5: complete meal.
Speaker 6: You've got the whole things, like you brought it all
Speaker 6: that work.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it's just one salty, one sweet,
Speaker 7: so they can they can have a little bit of each.
Speaker 5: For me, I'm gonna go to my standard. It's the
Speaker 5: Whole food version of cheese doodles. Like there's like the
Speaker 5: Whole Foods cheese puffs. So I'm just gonna go and go, hey,
Speaker 5: you know, take a bag of this, have at it.
Speaker 5: You're just gonna love it.
Speaker 2: So all right, it's puffs.
Speaker 6: You give the aliens cheesy poofs.
Speaker 8: I mean, I wanted to go simple. I'm not gonna
Speaker 8: you know, I'm not gonna try to outdo that. Look
Speaker 8: at Boston b It just gave him a complete Cuban meal.
Speaker 8: Savory sweet New York pizza pizza.
Speaker 5: You know, I wanted to go to this one. Alright, guys,
Speaker 5: we gotta get out of here. It has been two
Speaker 5: and a half hours of really we expect you do
Speaker 5: an hour and a half. But it really was a
Speaker 5: lot of fun and I really appreciate everybody being here.
Speaker 5: The Cabby's uh and our guest and Ruthie's a Cabby too.
Speaker 5: But you will see these mods come on screen with
Speaker 5: us and do shows. We did them on Mod Roundtable recently.
Speaker 5: We will do another. And someone mentioned Dave Scott. I
Speaker 5: will work through Jewels or Courtney if I need be
Speaker 5: to get Dave Scott for our Canadian roundtable. That should
Speaker 5: be a blast. And JOHNA is practicing sort of a
Speaker 5: hammed up Canadian accent for you guys. All right, so anyway, bye, everybody,
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Speaker 22: Everybody, good night.
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