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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Guardians Weekly on the Cleveland Guardians Radio network.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, everyone, welcome to Guardian's Weekly. Jim Rosen House along

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<v Speaker 2>with you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland, where the

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<v Speaker 2>Guardians are taking on the Saint Louis Cardinals this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>A four to ten start on Saturday and a noon

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<v Speaker 2>start on Sunday afternoons, so be sure to make a

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<v Speaker 2>note of that if you're planning on coming down Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually a twelve oh five first pitch for you on

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday to close out the home stand. Good show line

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<v Speaker 2>up for you. Today we will hear from Joe Torres,

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<v Speaker 2>the Guardian's assistant pitching coach, on a variety of topics.

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<v Speaker 2>Also a fun at the ballpark with Senior Vice President

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<v Speaker 2>Bob di Biassio and Rick Sutcliffe. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>miss this one. Logan Allen Slade, Seconi and Ernie Clement

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<v Speaker 2>will also stop by. Two of the guardians starting pitchers

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<v Speaker 2>and a former Cleveland player who's now enjoying a fine

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<v Speaker 2>season with the Blue Jays. Ernie Clement. But first our

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<v Speaker 2>weekend review and it hasn't been an easy week for

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<v Speaker 2>the Guardians. Tuesday at ten to six loss to the

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Jays to open that series, and then on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>a thriller in Day on Town Cleveland. The Guardians jumped

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<v Speaker 2>in front in the first inning, a lead off walk

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<v Speaker 2>to Stephen Kuan. He stole second and Jose Ramirez delivered

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<v Speaker 2>down the.

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<v Speaker 3>Pinch, ripped into right. That's a mason near the line

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<v Speaker 3>that'll score Kwan.

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<v Speaker 2>Big turn.

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<v Speaker 3>Jose holds throwback to first, skips away from Guerrero, goes

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<v Speaker 3>to the Blue Jay dugout. Ramirez after diving in, gets up,

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<v Speaker 3>goes to second. One nothing, Cleveland, and that'll be an

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<v Speaker 3>RBI single for Jose Ramirez and he'll go to second

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<v Speaker 3>on what will be a throwing air by Andre Simenez.

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<v Speaker 3>Toronto tied the game with a solo home run in

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<v Speaker 3>the top half of the fourth from vlad Guerrero Junior.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the bottom of the inning, two men on,

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<v Speaker 3>Gabrielarius came to the plate. Here's the pitch swung on

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<v Speaker 3>and that's drilled right center field and.

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<v Speaker 1>It splits the gap. One hop pup against the wall

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<v Speaker 1>and right center. One run is in that steam and

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<v Speaker 1>Jones motoring home. Here's the relay.

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<v Speaker 2>He slides, He's safe. Close play at the plate, Jones

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<v Speaker 2>made it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a two run double from Godrie Larius and the Guardians.

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<v Speaker 2>They're back in front. It's now three to one. The

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Jays answered with three runs in the top half

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<v Speaker 2>of the sixth to take their first lead on the

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<v Speaker 2>day for three Blue Jays, but the Guardians again responded

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<v Speaker 2>in the bottom of the inning with Lane Thomas leading

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<v Speaker 2>things off.

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<v Speaker 1>Lane Thomas won for two of the single, awaits the

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<v Speaker 1>two to zero and he drives.

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<v Speaker 3>Into deep left down the line, go on to the porch.

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<v Speaker 3>Second night, Naro, Lane Thomas finds the home run porch

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<v Speaker 3>in left and we're back to even at four oh

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<v Speaker 3>on a sight in back to back games to see

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<v Speaker 3>Lane Thomas have back to back home runs, have four

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<v Speaker 3>hints and four army eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>It stayed tied at four through the ninth and onto

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<v Speaker 2>extra innings. The game went. In the top half of

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<v Speaker 2>the tenth, Nick Enright, out of the bullpen, tried to

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<v Speaker 2>keep the J's off the scoreboard.

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<v Speaker 1>En Right fires swung on ground into third. Ramirez clubs

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<v Speaker 1>y'all have to hurry.

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<v Speaker 3>The thrown by a whisker.

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<v Speaker 1>We may have a challenge. It was bang bang. What

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<v Speaker 1>will the Blue Jays do? They do not challenge it. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>was that close. We go to the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 1>tenth still tied at.

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<v Speaker 2>Four by great work by en Right. Then in the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of the tenth Bownailor was the runner starting at

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<v Speaker 2>second base. Stephen Kuan was walked intentionally. David Fry singled

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<v Speaker 2>a bunt basit that loaded the bases with nobody out

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<v Speaker 2>for Jose Ramirez. The pinch and.

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<v Speaker 3>Ramirez swings and lines of tent hesht ball game.

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<v Speaker 2>Jose Ramirez laces.

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<v Speaker 3>One down the left field line, scoring on the hil

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<v Speaker 3>Martinez with a game winner, and Toronto had no choice.

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<v Speaker 3>They had to pinch to Ramirez when the bases loaded.

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<v Speaker 3>They get their walk off win number four and they

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<v Speaker 3>knocked off the Jays five to four in tenanties and.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the high point for the Guardians. They have

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<v Speaker 2>not scored since as they were shut out six nothing

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<v Speaker 2>by the Blue Jays Thursday afternoon and five nothing Friday

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<v Speaker 2>night by the Cardinals. And Sonny Gray. Stay with us,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Guardians Weekly. Jim rosenhouse along with you

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend as we join you from Progressive Field in

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<v Speaker 2>downtown Cleveland. The starting rotation has been a real bright

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<v Speaker 2>spot for the Guardians, including Logan Allen. He has strung

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<v Speaker 2>together some really good starts of late, and recently we

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<v Speaker 2>caught up with him and he talked about some of

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<v Speaker 2>the keys to pitching deeper into games. As we have

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<v Speaker 2>seen during this recent stretch is.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, having a good game plan going into the

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<v Speaker 6>games with the with the catchers being on the same page,

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<v Speaker 6>and then you know, trusting my stuff, trusting the defense,

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<v Speaker 6>just trying to go out there and attack guys. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>like I always trying to say, it's hard to hit.

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<v Speaker 6>Remember that it's hard to hit, and just go right

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<v Speaker 6>after you guys, let the defense work.

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<v Speaker 2>And you had a unique situation where you did have

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the bullpen for I think the first

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<v Speaker 2>time in your major league career.

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<v Speaker 7>And.

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<v Speaker 2>It went well from the standpoint of you got to win.

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<v Speaker 2>You had a one two, three inning. What was that

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<v Speaker 2>like for you to experience in the pen maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>before you came into the game.

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<v Speaker 8>It was different.

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<v Speaker 6>This was kind of cool getting to see, like what

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<v Speaker 6>that environment is like down there. I feel like the

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<v Speaker 6>bullpen's kind of its own little team within the team,

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<v Speaker 6>So it was cool to kind of, you know, see

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<v Speaker 6>how those guys operate on a day to day basis

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit different, you know, not really knowing when

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<v Speaker 6>the warm up and all that kind of stuff. But

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<v Speaker 6>you know, they they accepted the open arms. They helped

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<v Speaker 6>me out, you know, getting ready and kind of walk

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<v Speaker 6>me through it.

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<v Speaker 8>So they're awesome. So it was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>You say they accepted you with open arms, did they

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<v Speaker 2>really make it part of the group.

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<v Speaker 6>Feel like I was kind of part of the group

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<v Speaker 6>for a little bit. I got a little bit of

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<v Speaker 6>craft today, So maybe not not as much as I think,

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<v Speaker 6>but I feel like a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And you get a win only getting three outs? Was

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of nice because I know as a starter

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you can throw it really well for a long

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<v Speaker 2>time and then not gonna.

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<v Speaker 6>Win wins get a lot of flack and today's game,

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<v Speaker 6>but I feel like, you know, they're hard to come by,

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<v Speaker 6>so I'll take them anyway you can get them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>probably the at least amount of pitches I'll ever throw

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<v Speaker 6>in my career to get a win. Hopefully, so we'll

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<v Speaker 6>see Logan Allen's joining us. And I'm not sure how

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<v Speaker 6>many people know, but you were a really good hitter

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<v Speaker 6>position player in college in addition to it to being

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<v Speaker 6>a obviously a top shelf pitcher to get drafted, but

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<v Speaker 6>maybe that came into play in San Francisco. You fielded

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<v Speaker 6>a pop up off to the side.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the mound. Pictures don't do that very often, and

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<v Speaker 2>how did you play that and why were you the

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<v Speaker 2>only option to make that play.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I just got lucky with the way that

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<v Speaker 6>he hit it. That he hit it, you know, low

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<v Speaker 6>enough for me to catch it. I think for the

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<v Speaker 6>most part, once it gets up above a certain height,

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<v Speaker 6>it gets a little tough for us, you know, especially

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of times it'll drift back on you. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I always like to feel confident. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>we come out here in Shagby p every day. I

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<v Speaker 6>feel pretty confident in catching a fly ball if I

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<v Speaker 6>need to. So yeah, it felt nice to get one.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, at like I said, we don't really get

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of those. I think it's probably the first

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<v Speaker 6>one I got in my pro career and the five

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<v Speaker 6>six years I've played.

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<v Speaker 8>So it was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like anyone on this team wants to

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<v Speaker 2>be like Jose Ramirez, and you did a Jose Ramirez

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<v Speaker 2>replica after that would explain what happened there and what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, every time was the catch the fly ball, he

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<v Speaker 6>gets a little two hands up celebrations, So I thought

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<v Speaker 6>it was fitting that I caught myself one and I

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<v Speaker 6>do it. He ran by me and he kind of

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<v Speaker 6>gave me the two little celebrations, so I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>it's a good time to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Your last start. It came in San Francisco, a road

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<v Speaker 2>game in a National League park, which used to mean

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<v Speaker 2>pitchers hit, but no more. Were you disappointed?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, they took that away. I guess I knew it

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't good, but yeah, it was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've always had.

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<v Speaker 6>That in the back of my head that I'd have

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<v Speaker 6>that opportunity, you know, if I ever got to the

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<v Speaker 6>big least quick enough. But unfortunately change the rules before

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<v Speaker 6>I had that opportunity. But yes, I would have been

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<v Speaker 6>really cool to hit, especially hit off justin Berlander. That

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<v Speaker 6>would have been a cool couple of bets to get right.

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<v Speaker 6>But no, I guess it's right for the best. So

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<v Speaker 6>we got a lot of good guys, like in the

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<v Speaker 6>DH spot that kind of kind of slug for us.

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<v Speaker 6>That's probably better off that I'm right in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Look it up, folks. He had some good numbers in college.

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<v Speaker 2>Logan Allen thanks Loft for coming by. I think thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>Rosie appreciate it. AT's guardian starting pitcher. Logan Allen also

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<v Speaker 2>performing very well in that starting rotation is Slate Seconi.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll face the Cardinals on Saturday, the four to ten game,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's coming off a great start against the Athletics

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<v Speaker 2>and has been more and more consistent with each passing start.

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<v Speaker 2>He talked about that consistency and says he likes the

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<v Speaker 2>direction his game is going as we get deeper into

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<v Speaker 2>the season.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I think consistency is one of the biggest keys in pitching,

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<v Speaker 9>If you do things over and over again the same way,

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<v Speaker 2>I know when you were at the diamond or some

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<v Speaker 2>made a difference knowing that you're a starting pitcher here

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think that helps.

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<v Speaker 9>Being able to be on the same five or six

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<v Speaker 9>or sixth day gives you clarity on every day what

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<v Speaker 2>Are you doing anything much differently from your first two

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<v Speaker 9>Yes and yes, yes to both those answers. Yes, the

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<v Speaker 9>coming of age and having more experience definitely plays a

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<v Speaker 8>To be a little bit more comfortable out there.

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<v Speaker 9>But we have done a lot of work on implementing

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<v Speaker 9>the sinker, the cutter, more curveball usage into the repertoire

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<v Speaker 9>but using some of the other pitches that compliment them

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<v Speaker 9>to open up space to use him has been a

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<v Speaker 9>big factor in the success this year. It's gonna sound

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<v Speaker 9>like a beating on a same drum every time, but

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<v Speaker 9>consistency of doing the same thing every week in terms

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<v Speaker 9>to replicate it over and over again, it's going to

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<v Speaker 9>be a lot easier out there to be in the

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<v Speaker 9>right head space and do your job.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a chance to watch Shane Bieber, so you

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<v Speaker 2>how he's doing there. He went through a bullpen as

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<v Speaker 2>he continues to make his way back. How did he look.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know if he missed a spot. He threw

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<v Speaker 9>twenty something pitches. I saw him throw one curveball a

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<v Speaker 9>little bit in front of where he wanted to. But man,

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<v Speaker 9>it's it's fun to watch a guy who's that consistent

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<v Speaker 9>in that precise with what he does do his thing.

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<v Speaker 9>It gives you something to really strive for because every

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<v Speaker 9>or you might feel pretty good about yourself, you watch

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<v Speaker 9>you watch somebody that's better than you realize you still

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he surely is one of the best. Hey, well,

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<v Speaker 2>change gears for our last question. You're new to town. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you are a kindoiseur. I'm guessing Italian restaurants and tell

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<v Speaker 2>us about the food scene in Cleveland. This have been

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<v Speaker 9>It has so, I've I've made my way over to

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<v Speaker 9>Little Italy a few times. I've enjoyed a lot of

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<v Speaker 9>my favorite so far that I've been to I've been

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<v Speaker 9>to twice now is Vlarios really really good traditional Italian food.

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised to you who maybe based on what

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<v Speaker 9>I would say the weather has been a little bit

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<v Speaker 9>different than I had heard that, you know, a little

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<v Speaker 9>gloomy sometimes, but there have been a lot of really

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<v Speaker 9>nice days suns out, feels like I'm back in Florida

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<v Speaker 9>with the humidity, which feels like home to me.

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<v Speaker 8>I love it. It's good pitching weather.

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<v Speaker 9>You don't have to throw as much to get loose,

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<v Speaker 9>so I'm really enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome play. Thanks a lot for coming by. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>it absolutely. That's Lade Seconi, the starting pitcher for the

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<v Speaker 2>Guardians in Saturday's game against the Cardinals. Earlier this week,

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<v Speaker 2>the Blue Jays were in town, and that meant a

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<v Speaker 2>visit from Ernie Clement, the former Cleveland Indian and Guardian.

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<v Speaker 2>Clement has been in the top ten in the American

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<v Speaker 2>League in batting for a good portion of this season,

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<v Speaker 2>with that average well up over three hundred most of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. And we'll get to his Cleveland days in

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<v Speaker 2>a moment, but first he talked about what's led to

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<v Speaker 2>his success now hitting in the middle of a dangerous

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I think when you get normal at bats, you

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<v Speaker 10>can kind of get into a groove, and you know,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm fortunate enough to be getting a really good opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>You look at the Blue Jays and it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>a team that could take off at any moment. They've

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<v Speaker 2>had some good stretches and and what do you see

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<v Speaker 2>here that's exciting as you get deeper into the season.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I mean we have we have really strong pitching.

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<v Speaker 10>I think anytime you have really good starting pitching, you're

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<v Speaker 10>going to be in a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 10>baseball games and you're gonna have a chance to win. So,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, our offense is really really starting to click,

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<v Speaker 10>and we're starting to put some runs up, So I

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<v Speaker 10>think that's going to really compliment each other. And I

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<v Speaker 2>Good mix of veterans and young guys.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah, and I think that's really important too. We

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<v Speaker 10>have we have great leadership with the veterans and then

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<v Speaker 10>we have some some hungry young guys who are who

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<v Speaker 10>are you know, really really talented and you know, I

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<v Speaker 10>kind of I kind of fall right in the middle

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<v Speaker 10>of that.

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of familiar names and faces for Cleveland fans.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's it like being on the same team, either

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<v Speaker 2>again or for the first time with guys like Miles

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I mean, these guys are awesome, and you know,

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<v Speaker 10>it was so fun playing with them the first time around,

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<v Speaker 10>and then as soon as we got them this offseason,

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<v Speaker 10>it was it was really exciting. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>they're they're they're playing good ball, man, They're they're helping

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<v Speaker 10>us win, and uh, you know, it's it's it's cool

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<v Speaker 10>to be back in Cleveland, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Former Cleveland Indian Ernie Clement is joining us. And memories

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<v Speaker 2>of your time growing up in this organization, what stands

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<v Speaker 2>out to you.

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<v Speaker 10>Just the people that are here in the organization have

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<v Speaker 10>all positive things to say.

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<v Speaker 8>I absolutely love my time here.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, obviously I wish I could have could have

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<v Speaker 10>helped the team and played a little better, but you know,

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<v Speaker 10>I just I have no regrets. And I absolutely loved

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<v Speaker 10>everybody I played with and and got to play for.

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<v Speaker 10>And you know, staff and players were all just awesome.

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<v Speaker 10>So it's it's always cool coming back, and uh, it

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<v Speaker 10>holds a special place in my heart for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you look at your path, you had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of situations where you had to impress a new

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<v Speaker 2>team and how did that make you a stronger player?

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<v Speaker 2>You think down the road.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you really learn, you know, every stop you make

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<v Speaker 10>you learn something new. And my time in Cleveland was

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<v Speaker 10>was really special. And then you know, I got an opportunity,

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<v Speaker 10>a brief opportunity in Oakland, and then you know I

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<v Speaker 10>found my way here. So uh, you know, like I said,

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<v Speaker 10>you learned something new along the way at each stop.

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<v Speaker 10>But you know, I'm fortunate to have gotten another opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Brief time in Oakland. And you had a moment with

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<v Speaker 2>current Cleveland manager Steven Vote tell us about that on

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<v Speaker 2>one of the big days for his career.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's one of the coolest baseball moments I've seen,

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<v Speaker 10>and I'm lucky I got to be there in person

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<v Speaker 10>to watch it. He hit a home run and his

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<v Speaker 8>Career home run.

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<v Speaker 10>So I was on deck and I didn't really you know,

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<v Speaker 10>I'd only been with those guys for a little while,

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<v Speaker 10>so you know, I didn't really know him too well.

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<v Speaker 10>But you know, I couldn't help but just give him

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<v Speaker 10>a big hug when he when he crossed the home

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<v Speaker 10>play because I just knew it was. It was such

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<v Speaker 10>a cool moment for him, and you know, the brief

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<v Speaker 10>time I got to spend with him, he's a special

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<v Speaker 10>person and he's he's really good for the game at baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Are any great stuff? Great to see it again, Thank.

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<v Speaker 8>You, yes, sir, good to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Always fun to catch up with Ernie Clement, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the good guys in the game, and nice to see

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<v Speaker 2>him having some big time success with the Blue Jays.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay with us when we come back. We'll hear from

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Torres, the Guardian's assistant pitching coach, that's next on

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<v Speaker 2>the Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio Network. Jim Rosanown's back with

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<v Speaker 2>you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland where the Guardians

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<v Speaker 2>are taking on the Cardinals this weekend. Wrapping up the

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<v Speaker 2>homestand Joe Torres is one of the guardians assistant pitching

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<v Speaker 2>coaches along with Brad Goldberg. They both do a great

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<v Speaker 2>job supporting Carl Willis, the Guardians pitching coach, and the

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<v Speaker 2>starting rotation has been really impressive for some time now

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<v Speaker 2>getting better as the season goes along, and Torres talked

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<v Speaker 2>about some of the keys just stringing together quality starts.

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<v Speaker 11>You're right, things have gotten better, you know as a

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<v Speaker 11>it's credits to the players and just the processes and

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<v Speaker 11>behind the scenes work that they're doing. You know, where's

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<v Speaker 11>a lot of communication going on, you know, post meetings,

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<v Speaker 11>reviewing the games, going with purposes and intent into the

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<v Speaker 11>bullpens and then translating that into the games. And we're

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<v Speaker 11>seeing that happen more and more often. Guys are just

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<v Speaker 11>working really, really hard. But you know we also have

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<v Speaker 11>to remember, like these guys, a lot of them, it's

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<v Speaker 11>like really their first full season as a starter with

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<v Speaker 8>And Gavin Slade.

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<v Speaker 11>So you know, these guys are really just learning the

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<v Speaker 11>demands of like a turn you know, every five days,

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<v Speaker 11>every six days, what they need to do to prepare themselves.

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<v Speaker 8>And it seems like they're getting a better routine doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned that that post start meeting, it usually comes

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<v Speaker 2>to the next day or or if there's an off day,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days later. And so for instance, the

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<v Speaker 2>slate Saconio had a really good one on Sunday. What

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<v Speaker 2>are some of the things you touch on with him

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<v Speaker 2>after a really good start.

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<v Speaker 8>Like that, Well, I mean we use that meeting.

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<v Speaker 11>It's a good opportunit for the player to kind of

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<v Speaker 11>flush and bring out, you know, any thoughts and feelings

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<v Speaker 11>they had from the game, good, bad and different, right,

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<v Speaker 11>so they can go ahead and just you know, go

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<v Speaker 11>ahead and share with us, like what they were thinking,

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<v Speaker 11>what they were feeling, and then it gives us an

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<v Speaker 11>opportunity also be able to you know, offer some feedback

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<v Speaker 11>throughout the game. So you know, for a slave, for instance,

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<v Speaker 11>I mean very efficient, getting a chance to use all

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<v Speaker 11>his pitches. He's he's added a few pitches this year

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<v Speaker 11>and little by little we're starting to see that mix

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<v Speaker 11>go into the games. But really just he was really

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<v Speaker 11>happy about the way pitch with the lead right, which

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<v Speaker 11>can be different right when you're pitching with the lead

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<v Speaker 11>or you're pitching behind. And and he did such a

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<v Speaker 11>great job and worked well with Hegy, and you know,

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<v Speaker 11>we just take those those opportunities to talk about, you know, sequences, delivery,

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<v Speaker 11>anything we can to pull out the game.

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<v Speaker 8>That we can use to go into the next bullpen.

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<v Speaker 2>Used to be a starting pitcher, and there's a guy

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<v Speaker 2>floating around here on the home stands mainly Corey Klueber.

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<v Speaker 2>You could count on two hundred plus innings. That was important.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably still important, but it seems like the game

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<v Speaker 2>is changing a little bit. And how do you manage

447
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<v Speaker 2>as we get deeper into it now past the halfway

448
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<v Speaker 2>point workload? And and is that two hundred inning mark

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<v Speaker 2>Is that all that important anymore? Is it more maybe

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<v Speaker 2>how you're getting to a certain level of innings.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it's it's hard to say like importance. If you

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<v Speaker 11>ask me, it's important. I'm sure players feel like it's important,

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<v Speaker 11>but we probably see that that number more around one

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<v Speaker 11>eighty now across the league, especially, like you know, the

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<v Speaker 11>way way things are seeing with the third time through

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<v Speaker 11>tend to get some relievers in there. The games has

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<v Speaker 11>changed a little bit, and that's fine because you know,

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<v Speaker 11>look at our bullpen right, Like, who wouldn't want those

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<v Speaker 11>guys in the game, right And I feel like a

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<v Speaker 11>lot of teams probably feel similar. So you know, really

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<v Speaker 11>about these guys just going out there and just getting

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<v Speaker 11>us as deep as they can.

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<v Speaker 8>They've done a tremendous job.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, our pitch counts, you know, up there with

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<v Speaker 11>the league leaders in terms of our starters, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>going deep into games.

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<v Speaker 8>So it's it's been great. But you know, you got

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<v Speaker 8>you gotta give a lot of.

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<v Speaker 11>Credit to SNC and medical, to the routines that they're

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<v Speaker 11>putting on these guys to help them, you know, work

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<v Speaker 11>through the five days in between, the four days in

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<v Speaker 11>between to prepare their bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>Joined by Joe Torres, the Guardian's assistant pitching coach, switching

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<v Speaker 2>to the bullpen. It's a group that had an unbelievable

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<v Speaker 2>year a year ago, and I thought it was interesting

476
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<v Speaker 2>we're talking earlier just about how no matter what, the

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<v Speaker 2>personnel is going to change from year to year. But

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<v Speaker 2>you do have four guys who are backing up a

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<v Speaker 2>really good season a year ago with more of the

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<v Speaker 2>same this year. And what are you seeing from those

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<v Speaker 2>pitchers who work the seventy plus appearances a year ago

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of how they're handling that from a year

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<v Speaker 2>ago into this season.

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<v Speaker 8>Truly have been very, very impressed by them.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, to handle seventy games in a season, I

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<v Speaker 11>mean it takes a toll in the body, especially someone

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<v Speaker 11>maybe like for kid who jumped from you know, thirty

488
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<v Speaker 11>five forty appearances a year before in the minor leagues, right,

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<v Speaker 11>and you see them coming back around again. Give credits

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<v Speaker 11>s and c medical helping these guys, you know, with

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<v Speaker 11>their bodies and their recovery.

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<v Speaker 8>But you know they're they're learning, right, they're learning.

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<v Speaker 11>How to how to back off their workloads and catch

494
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<v Speaker 11>play a little bit more, you know, touch them out.

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<v Speaker 8>A little bit less.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, their their routines before the outing, let you know,

497
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<v Speaker 11>bringing those pitch counts down a little bit in the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 8>All those things matter.

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<v Speaker 11>Every throw matters for these guys, and they're doing a

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<v Speaker 11>tremendous job with that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And most of them you've worked with for several years

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of new pitchers. Just as an example, Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Fester joined the team after the season began. Kobe Allard

504
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<v Speaker 2>was in spring training but new to the organization. How

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<v Speaker 2>impressed have you been with what they've been able to

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<v Speaker 2>do in a short period of time to get acclimated

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<v Speaker 2>to what Cleveland likes to do with their pitching.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean that's a good point.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean them coming into a new situation, especially Festa

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<v Speaker 11>kind of jumped in middle season here as we claim

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<v Speaker 11>them from uh, you know, from the minor leagues.

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<v Speaker 8>We had it out there. They've been tremendous. I mean

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<v Speaker 8>they've come in.

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<v Speaker 11>What's been great about them is they've come in they've

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<v Speaker 11>been themselves and we've tried to support that as much

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<v Speaker 11>as possible. You know, don't come in here and try

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<v Speaker 11>to be more than who you are. And then little

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<v Speaker 11>by little we can, you know, help them grow in

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<v Speaker 11>any way that they feel like they need to or

520
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<v Speaker 11>if we see fit. But uh, you know, they've been great,

521
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<v Speaker 11>and the number one thing they've done is they thrown shrikes.

522
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<v Speaker 11>They've come in right away thrown shrikes and that's helped

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<v Speaker 11>a lot when at times where we need maybe some

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<v Speaker 11>length from Colby or a situation where you know, Matt

525
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<v Speaker 11>comes in and punch his guy out in three or

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<v Speaker 11>four pitches.

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<v Speaker 8>Like, it's been pretty impressive and it's been great to have.

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<v Speaker 2>Him and the guy at the end of games. A

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<v Speaker 2>manual class A a year for the ages a year ago. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you seeing from him this year? As the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers look a little bit different, but maybe the numbers

532
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<v Speaker 2>that we don't see that that say, hey, he's still

533
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<v Speaker 2>as dominant as they come.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean still you can look up

535
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<v Speaker 11>every night it's still nine to nine to one hundred, right.

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<v Speaker 11>So you know, early in the season and he was

537
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<v Speaker 11>dealing with a little bit of shoulder, you know, fatigue,

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<v Speaker 11>and then and he was able to kind of get

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<v Speaker 11>through that and and once we got to April, kind

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<v Speaker 11>of look at the month of May and I'm not

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<v Speaker 11>sure if you get up a run. He might have

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<v Speaker 11>given up one run in May and been pretty solid.

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<v Speaker 11>So it's like, you know, to expect what do you had?

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<v Speaker 11>What you saw last year from anybody would be kind

545
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<v Speaker 11>of crazy, but it's on amost like we come to

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<v Speaker 11>expect that from him because he's almost superhuman.

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<v Speaker 8>In some ways from the year to year.

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<v Speaker 11>The amount of appearances that he's put out there and

549
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<v Speaker 11>the numbers he's put out there, he's super impressive. And

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<v Speaker 11>once again, like you know, he's going to continue to

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<v Speaker 11>work and find ways to get better, and that's what

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<v Speaker 11>he's doing this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe as always thanks for the time.

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<v Speaker 8>Appreciate it. Yeah, sure things, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Joe Torres, the Guardian's assistant pitching coach, and always

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<v Speaker 2>thank him for his time. Some good thoughts on what's

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<v Speaker 2>been happening, both in the starting rotation and the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay with us. We'll have our final segment of Guardians

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<v Speaker 2>Weekly after this time out the Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Guardians Weekly, Jim rosen House along with

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<v Speaker 2>you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland, and every now

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<v Speaker 2>and again we like to catch up with Guardian's Senior

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<v Speaker 2>Vice President Bob D Biassio and see who he has

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<v Speaker 2>caught up with in another edition of At the Ballpark

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<v Speaker 2>with Bobby D. This time around it's Cy Young Award

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<v Speaker 2>winner Rick Suckcliffe.

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<v Speaker 1>The perfectly manicured field, the unmistakable aroma of a ballpark

580
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<v Speaker 1>hot dog, and the electricity celebrating another victory.

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<v Speaker 2>This is at the Ballpark with Bobby D.

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<v Speaker 13>Thank you, Hammy, Well them to at the Ballpark, where

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<v Speaker 13>we hope you enjoy our conversations with those involved in

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<v Speaker 13>the great game of baseball. Those who may have been

585
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<v Speaker 13>behind the scenes are the colorful personalities who have provided

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<v Speaker 13>so many exciting moments and memories. Today we are joined

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<v Speaker 13>by one of my all time favorites, a former number

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<v Speaker 13>one draft pick.

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<v Speaker 14>With the Los Angeles Dodgers, a.

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<v Speaker 13>Three time All Star Cy Young Award winner and a

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<v Speaker 13>Roberto Clemente Award winner.

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<v Speaker 14>Mister Rick Sudcliffe sut thank you for taking the time

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<v Speaker 14>to be with.

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<v Speaker 7>Us, Bobby. There's not enough time in today for me

595
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<v Speaker 7>to catch up with you on all the great things.

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<v Speaker 7>And I mean seriously, just hearing your voice it takes

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<v Speaker 7>me back to how much we love Cleveland. What a

598
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:55.039
<v Speaker 7>beautiful city it was. Our daughter was born when I

599
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 7>was playing for the Indians. Bobby, when when I hear

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<v Speaker 7>your voice, I literally think of Jimmy Warfield. I think

601
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:04.920
<v Speaker 7>of Dave Garcia, I think of Mike Cargo. We'b Blilevi

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00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.119
<v Speaker 7>and Andre Thornton. Right now I'm thanking to Joe Charbonneau

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<v Speaker 7>and how crazy he was. That clubhouse in nineteen eighty

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00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:14.640
<v Speaker 7>two was a lot like the clubhouse in the movie

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<v Speaker 7>Major League. And Bobby, you know it well.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes and day you're too kind and we've stayed friends

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<v Speaker 13>all this time, and you were in Cleveland just two

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<v Speaker 13>years and a half. Some memorable moments and we'll get

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<v Speaker 13>to that in a little bit, but we might as

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<v Speaker 13>well start at the beginning. You're a number one draft pick,

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<v Speaker 13>of the Dodgers in nineteen seventy four, twenty first overall

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<v Speaker 13>out of high school and Independence, Missouri. Share that experience

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<v Speaker 13>with us.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, the story that comes to mind, Bobby is

615
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<v Speaker 7>I thought the worst day of my life. I'm eleven

616
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<v Speaker 7>years old and my dad leaves our family. My dad

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<v Speaker 7>did not like sports, so we didn't play. And it

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<v Speaker 7>turns out that we were put up for adoption. My

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<v Speaker 7>brother and sister and I and my grandpa on my

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<v Speaker 7>mind said no, that's not going to happen. He took

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<v Speaker 7>us in. He came out of retirement, he went back

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<v Speaker 7>to work. He loved sports. He had my mom and

623
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<v Speaker 7>my aunt. You know, he didn't have a boy to raise,

624
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:13.359
<v Speaker 7>so all of a sudden, now he's got two of them.

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00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:15.799
<v Speaker 7>And he told me one rule, he said, the one thing.

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<v Speaker 7>You can play all the sports you want, but you

627
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.039
<v Speaker 7>got to get good grades. Well, Bobby, you talk about

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<v Speaker 7>me being the number one pick. My freshman year in

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<v Speaker 7>high school, came home with a bad report card. My

630
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<v Speaker 7>grandpa didn't let me play in the championship game and

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<v Speaker 7>we lost. And there's not a doubt in my mind

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<v Speaker 7>we would have won if I could have played. But

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<v Speaker 7>he taught me a lesson. So fast forward to as

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<v Speaker 7>you mentioned, I was the number one pick by the Dodgers, Bobby.

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<v Speaker 7>They come to our house, you know, they offered me

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<v Speaker 7>a bonus, and they offered me my education and my

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00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.160
<v Speaker 7>brother's education and sell that. And I asked him, I said,

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<v Speaker 7>to everybody in the country, why was I your number

639
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:50.839
<v Speaker 7>one pick? And they go, that's a great question, Rick.

640
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 7>The reason you scouted out like a lot of other people.

641
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 7>But the reason you stood out was because of your

642
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.759
<v Speaker 7>grade point average. And I'm like, well, why does that matter?

643
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.200
<v Speaker 7>And I said, what if I if I love baseball

644
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 7>but I hate math. They go, we don't know, Bobby.

645
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<v Speaker 7>The only scenario they had to compare me as a

646
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 7>player getting better by listening to a coach was me

647
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:13.880
<v Speaker 7>as a student. And whether I listened to my teacher

648
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.880
<v Speaker 7>or not. Go back to the day my grandpa made

649
00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:20.240
<v Speaker 7>me miss that football game. It wouldn't have happened without

650
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:23.680
<v Speaker 7>him being firm about it. And I ended up with

651
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:25.960
<v Speaker 7>a great, great point average, and I wasn't going to

652
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:28.599
<v Speaker 7>play baseball in college. I wanted to play football, and

653
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:31.640
<v Speaker 7>that great point average kind of took me away from

654
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 7>my dream of playing football, and end of the career

655
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:36.039
<v Speaker 7>that I should have been in all along.

656
00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:40.920
<v Speaker 13>Well, you're a six seven, six eight two fifteen to twenty five.

657
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.160
<v Speaker 14>What position did you play in football?

658
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.960
<v Speaker 7>Well, you know, like everybody else back in the day,

659
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:48.920
<v Speaker 7>I never left the field. I was a quarterback. That's

660
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.759
<v Speaker 7>what I got recruited at. I was able, mentioned All

661
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:56.319
<v Speaker 7>American blah blah blah, got recruited all around the country. Oh,

662
00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:58.319
<v Speaker 7>I could throw it, but hey, we weren't going to

663
00:30:58.400 --> 00:30:59.160
<v Speaker 7>run the wishbone.

664
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.839
<v Speaker 14>You know that, I love it.

665
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:08.480
<v Speaker 13>You're drafted in junea seventy four, and quickly you're in

666
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.599
<v Speaker 13>the big leagues in nineteen seventy six, and you pitch

667
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 13>one game in a September or five innings only what

668
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.119
<v Speaker 13>two hits, no runs allowed?

669
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.400
<v Speaker 7>Bobby. The funny part about that story was I get

670
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:24.680
<v Speaker 7>called up in September from Double A. I go from

671
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:27.759
<v Speaker 7>you know, maybe two hundred people on a Friday night

672
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:32.920
<v Speaker 7>in Waterbury, Connecticut, to Dodger Stadium and Walter Austin retired

673
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.160
<v Speaker 7>with four games to go in the season nineteen seventy six.

674
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:38.680
<v Speaker 7>He told Tommy, you're running the team. But the only

675
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:40.480
<v Speaker 7>thing I'm telling you is I want the kid to

676
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.440
<v Speaker 7>be the starting pitcher. So Bobby, I'm the starting pitcher.

677
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:46.400
<v Speaker 7>I had probably ten complete games in Double A. I mean,

678
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.839
<v Speaker 7>that's what we did. Sandy Kofax taught me that a

679
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:52.480
<v Speaker 7>quality start was at the end of the game, when

680
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:55.200
<v Speaker 7>you shoot the catcher's hand. I mean, that's what it's

681
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 7>all about. Well, here we are, you said, I only

682
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.599
<v Speaker 7>went five inning, nothing and nothing. Bottom of the fifth

683
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:03.480
<v Speaker 7>man on third, one out, I walked the home plate

684
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Speaker 7>to hit. All of a sudden, I hear the crowd

685
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 7>yelling everything. The youmpire says, hey, your manager wants you.

686
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:11.960
<v Speaker 7>I turned around. Losorda is waving me back, and he goes,

687
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:15.960
<v Speaker 7>we're gonna pitch it for you, Bobby. I looked at him.

688
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 7>I said, you gotta be me. I had just seart

689
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.559
<v Speaker 7>twenty years old. I spent the next oh. I spent

690
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:26.279
<v Speaker 7>the next hour after the game in Lasorda's office, just

691
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:29.519
<v Speaker 7>getting aired out about it. But that's the reason I

692
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 7>only went five innings that night.

693
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:32.799
<v Speaker 14>Oh my, I.

694
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:36.119
<v Speaker 13>Love it so Oddly, you don't get called back up

695
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.200
<v Speaker 13>to the Biggs in seventy seven, and you only pitch

696
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:43.319
<v Speaker 13>one and two thirds innings or so in seventy eight,

697
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.839
<v Speaker 13>so you're not in the big leagues. In seventy seven,

698
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:50.160
<v Speaker 13>you pitch it an inning in two thirds and seventy eight,

699
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:54.000
<v Speaker 13>and then you go in seventy nine and you pitch

700
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:58.079
<v Speaker 13>two hundred forty three innings. About that big league it's

701
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.880
<v Speaker 13>like when you look at those kinds the numbers, and

702
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:04.160
<v Speaker 13>think you go from one and two thirds at as

703
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:06.480
<v Speaker 13>to two hundred and forty three at as.

704
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 14>You win Rookie of the Year, you have thirty nine games,

705
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 14>thirty starts. It's amazing.

706
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.799
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I tell you I got hurt opening Day in

707
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:18.720
<v Speaker 7>nineteen seventy seven in Triple A. About a week later

708
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:20.680
<v Speaker 7>they sent me to see Frank Job and he told

709
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:22.960
<v Speaker 7>me I had a torn rotator cut. I was gonna

710
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:26.559
<v Speaker 7>have surgery the next day. My longtime agent and great friend,

711
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:28.839
<v Speaker 7>you know, you knew very action rod Well. We lost

712
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.920
<v Speaker 7>him a year ago. He was there representing another kid

713
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 7>and as we came out, he says, how are you

714
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:36.119
<v Speaker 7>getting back to the hotel? I said, I'm waiting on

715
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.200
<v Speaker 7>a cab. He goes, I'll drive you back. He worked

716
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:41.240
<v Speaker 7>in the athletic department at UCLA. He said, nobody's ever

717
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 7>come back from that surgery. He says, I've did some

718
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:46.200
<v Speaker 7>research on it. He goes, you can probably go back

719
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:48.880
<v Speaker 7>and play college football or basketball. I go, what do

720
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:50.599
<v Speaker 7>you tell me? He goes, If I were you, I

721
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:51.720
<v Speaker 7>wouldn't have that surgery.

722
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:52.480
<v Speaker 14>Wow.

723
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 7>The other kid that he was there representing had the

724
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.519
<v Speaker 7>surgery never played again. I didn't get it done. The

725
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.640
<v Speaker 7>Dodgers were livid. They were mad at me. I barely

726
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:04.640
<v Speaker 7>pitched it all. In seventy seven, I get the spring training.

727
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:06.960
<v Speaker 7>I got to pitch well to make the Triple A staff,

728
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:09.880
<v Speaker 7>but we end up winning the championship that year. I

729
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 7>got called up, as you said, for an inning or

730
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 7>so at the end of it. I had to make

731
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:16.320
<v Speaker 7>the club out of spring training. In nineteen seventy nine,

732
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:19.360
<v Speaker 7>I do that. I'm in the bullpen. It's middle of May.

733
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 7>We're facing the Phillies on a Monday night, and Steve Carlton,

734
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:25.639
<v Speaker 7>I'm not gonna mention his name, but one of our

735
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:28.559
<v Speaker 7>veteran pitchers called in and he had the twenty four

736
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:32.000
<v Speaker 7>hour flu. He wasn't able to face lefty, but he

737
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:34.760
<v Speaker 7>was good to go the next night against Dick Ruthman. Okay,

738
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 7>so I get a start. Now, you would think with

739
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:40.280
<v Speaker 7>only like four or five innings that you know they would,

740
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 7>I'd have a pitch count right, No, you can look.

741
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:45.400
<v Speaker 7>I went nine innings. Of course I gave up a

742
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:48.280
<v Speaker 7>home run to Mike Schmid, but after beating the Phillies

743
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:50.880
<v Speaker 7>and Lefty, all of a sudden Losorda had to put

744
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 7>me back out there again. And our pitching coach, Read Adams,

745
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 7>who I owed the world to, when he handed me

746
00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:59.599
<v Speaker 7>the baseball, he goes, don't let him take it away

747
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:03.440
<v Speaker 7>from you, And as you know, eighteen years later, I

748
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:04.360
<v Speaker 7>was still holding it.

749
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:05.400
<v Speaker 14>Unbelievable.

750
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:09.199
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, your career you started at twenty ended up thirty

751
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:14.280
<v Speaker 13>eight years old when you hung up the spikes real

752
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:18.239
<v Speaker 13>quickly on your twenty three nineteen seventy nine. You have

753
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:21.719
<v Speaker 13>all these great accolades, Rookie of the Year, but you

754
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:27.519
<v Speaker 13>had Don Sutton's what thirty nine, Bert Houghton and Jerry

755
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:30.280
<v Speaker 13>Royce are thirty year a twenty three year old kid

756
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 13>joining that team of Steve Garvey and Davy Lows and

757
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.800
<v Speaker 13>Roby and Dusty Baker some household.

758
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:41.679
<v Speaker 7>Now, real quickly, you know they weren't as good to

759
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:45.440
<v Speaker 7>me as Burt Blevin and Mike Hargrove and Andre Thornton

760
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:48.440
<v Speaker 7>were those guys all kind of hunger theirselves other than

761
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:52.119
<v Speaker 7>one person, and that was Dusty Baker. And Dusty Baker

762
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:54.639
<v Speaker 7>was a game changer. He would tell me when a

763
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:58.280
<v Speaker 7>hitter was too comfortable. I mean, he just guided me

764
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:01.280
<v Speaker 7>through that Rookie year, and you know those three years

765
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.199
<v Speaker 7>in LA We went to Rookie of the Year in

766
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:06.079
<v Speaker 7>seventy nine. I tell you the funny story. We win

767
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:08.559
<v Speaker 7>the World Series in eighty one, but I didn't pitch

768
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:11.800
<v Speaker 7>in the World Series because I had rearranged Tommy Lasorda's

769
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 7>office with him in it. Long story short.

770
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:19.239
<v Speaker 14>Well, the play the spaghetti is the story City. Oh yes, right.

771
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:24.239
<v Speaker 7>I can't remember the day, but I know exactly the scenario. Bobby.

772
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.480
<v Speaker 7>I live in Kansas City. We don't have a garage

773
00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:28.719
<v Speaker 7>or snow on the ground. I walk out to the

774
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.480
<v Speaker 7>mailbox and I open it and there's a World Series

775
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:35.920
<v Speaker 7>ring with a full share World Series check like fifty

776
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:39.079
<v Speaker 7>five thousand dollars. I figured, after what I did to Lasoria,

777
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:42.119
<v Speaker 7>I wasn't gonna get anything. We got everything. You know

778
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.159
<v Speaker 7>what happened the next day, Bobby, I got a call

779
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.519
<v Speaker 7>from Dave Garcia telling me that I had been traded

780
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:51.599
<v Speaker 7>to the Cleveland Indian. It happened in twenty four hours.

781
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:54.719
<v Speaker 7>I literally I'm talking to Dave and I'm like, okay,

782
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:57.239
<v Speaker 7>great man. He goes, hey, but I noticed something. Your

783
00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:01.920
<v Speaker 7>rookie year, you weighed two hundred and fifteen. I had

784
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:04.559
<v Speaker 7>just weighed myself that morning. I was like two thirty five.

785
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 7>He goes, when you come to camp, I expect you

786
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:11.199
<v Speaker 7>to be at two fifteen. Oh, well, you know what,

787
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:14.559
<v Speaker 7>I started running. I started running two three times a day.

788
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.199
<v Speaker 7>I showed up at two hundred and ten pounds, and

789
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:20.440
<v Speaker 7>as you know, things worked out pretty well once I

790
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 7>put on that Indian uniform.

791
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.639
<v Speaker 14>Absolutely wasn't Dave Garcia the most beautiful.

792
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:27.639
<v Speaker 7>Man, nicest human being I ever met?

793
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:31.480
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, unfortunately we've run a time, but stay tuned for

794
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:35.199
<v Speaker 13>part two of our conversation with rig Sudcliffe and his.

795
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:39.079
<v Speaker 14>Time in Cleveland. I'm at the ballpark. I'm the Cleveland

796
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:41.239
<v Speaker 14>Guardians Radio Network.

797
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:46.199
<v Speaker 2>That's Bobby d at the ballpark, and that's going to

798
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.519
<v Speaker 2>do it for this week's edition of Guardians Weekly. Thanks

799
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:51.400
<v Speaker 2>so much for tuning in. As always, we'll catch you

800
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 2>next week when the team is right back here at

801
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:57.199
<v Speaker 2>home taking on the Detroit Tigers. In a huge July

802
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:00.920
<v Speaker 2>fourth weekend series. Until then for Brian Maze who always

803
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.320
<v Speaker 2>helps putting together our show each and every week. This

804
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.559
<v Speaker 2>is Jim Rosenhouse reminding you that you've been listening to

805
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<v Speaker 2>Guardians Weekly on the Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio Network.

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