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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, everyone to the Game Informer Show, a weekly

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<v Speaker 1>podcast covering the video game industry. Join us every Friday

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<v Speaker 1>for a discussion about the latest gaming news, reviews, and

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<v Speaker 1>exclusive reveals, alongside Game and Former staff and special guests

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<v Speaker 1>from around the industry. I'm one of your hosts today,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex van Aiken. Today I'm joined by Kyle Hilliard. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you hello?

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<v Speaker 2>Doing?

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<v Speaker 3>OK? Normal? Good week? Yeah? Sleepy? You know?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? Yeah, that's fair, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>We're we have chronicled the first winter, the first false

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<v Speaker 1>spring in Minneapolis. I believe we're now experiencing the second

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<v Speaker 1>false spring, so that means only one more false spring

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian Shay, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great. I just played what is my favorite game

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty six so far, and we're gonna talking

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<v Speaker 2>about on this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I am hopping on a plane tomorrow to go to

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<v Speaker 2>Sunny Florida to visit my family, so I will be

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing actual spring.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's awesome. I'm happy for you.

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<v Speaker 1>it's full of great stuff. Our Our latest issue that

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<v Speaker 1>we revealed earlier this week is on Invincible versus We.

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<v Speaker 1>We flew out Marcus Eric and interviewed Robert Kirkman, I

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<v Speaker 3>And played got to play Duplicate, which I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>anyone has played yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, no, yeah, So we got a a lot

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian, you you teased it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be talking about Pokemon Pocopia here in just

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<v Speaker 1>a second, and then later on Scott Pilgrim ex Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>reviewed it for us and be a shorter, more succinct show.

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<v Speaker 1>But two really, I think really big, mostly pretty anticipated games.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Pokemon Scott Pilgrim. Those are two big, two

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<v Speaker 1>big franchises.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>And also quick though, speaking of big games that are

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<v Speaker 2>coming out this week, I did want to shout out

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<v Speaker 2>that Nintendo Indie World presentation because we got Mini Shoot Adventures,

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<v Speaker 2>which I have been banging the drum since twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four that this game absolutely slaps. It's like Zelda, like

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<v Speaker 2>Zelda Overworld, like top down Zelda Overworld, only instead of

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<v Speaker 2>a little guy with a sword, you're a spaceship that

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<v Speaker 2>just cruises around and it's.

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<v Speaker 4>I never played it. I need to play.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good and it just hit switch to. That

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<v Speaker 2>was part of one of the announcements during the indie world,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just wanted to give a quick shout to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I give it a nine point twenty five back on

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<v Speaker 2>when it was just on Steam. Now that it's on

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<v Speaker 2>switch To, which is the perfect home for it. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a switch and a switch To version, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>free upgrade, so if you don't have a switch To

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<v Speaker 2>yet and you get the switch one version and then

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<v Speaker 2>upgrade for free later. It is bullet Hell twin stick

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<v Speaker 2>shooter in a Zelda style like top down environment, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is one of my favorite games of twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's all so Blueprints, which just hit switch

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<v Speaker 2>Too this week, and I mean, I think everybody on this.

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<v Speaker 4>Game is well one of my games of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think in ten years time when I

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<v Speaker 1>look back at twenty it's always hard when you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>end of year stuff, You're like, ah, is it this

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<v Speaker 1>one or this one? I think in ten years time

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<v Speaker 1>the most is probably Blueprints.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean Charles at nine point five.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in our top ten Games of twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five as an outlet, and it's just one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most incredible games of last year, and that's available now

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<v Speaker 2>on switch To, and that is a perfect switch To

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<v Speaker 2>game because it like it is just such like a

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<v Speaker 2>one more run type of roguelike experience. Yeah, And like

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, like I don't want to carry around

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<v Speaker 2>a notebook if I'm playing it, like on a trip

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<v Speaker 2>or something. But then I was like, oh wait, I

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<v Speaker 2>carry my phone with me everywhere. There's a notesap in there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also a screenshot functionality on the switch So it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's I think that's you can make. That's a perfect

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<v Speaker 2>game for it. And both of those games are incredible

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<v Speaker 2>and are on switch To right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So un shot Out Mini Shootings Out Okay, cool cool? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think on my top ten I think for that

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<v Speaker 3>year as well. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we're talking to two diehard Zelda fans here,

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<v Speaker 2>and we fully vouched for that game. So if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a fan of any of those, any of those genres, really,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's twin stick shooters, bullet hells, even though it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have the degree of difficulty that there is like

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<v Speaker 2>typically no associated with that, yeah yeah it does. It's

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<v Speaker 2>bullet hell elements, twin stick shooting, core gameplay and Zelda

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<v Speaker 2>style exploration, which is just like a hodgepodge of brilliance

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<v Speaker 2>from them from my perspective because it's it's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Blueprints is also like one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>games you can play on the switch to right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I was bummed that we didn't get Mean

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<v Speaker 4>to the Hollow or dropped.

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<v Speaker 2>Right that I can't wait for that game.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping that was going to be like the

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<v Speaker 1>one last thing, but Blueprints took that spot instead, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, before we got into the Meteor topics, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to shout out in case anybody listening to this

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<v Speaker 2>did not see that presentation, which I think was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the better Nintendo Indie World presentations we've.

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<v Speaker 4>Ever got in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's also a new game from Clay Entertainment which

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<v Speaker 2>didn't Starve, and Mark of the Ninja and Invisible Ink

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<v Speaker 2>and games like that like two point five D Brawler,

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<v Speaker 2>which it looks like Castle Crashers but with their art style,

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<v Speaker 2>Like holy crap. I'm just recapping that on my podcast Rockwood. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I was just like I was looking at

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<v Speaker 2>like the recap and I was like, man, this was

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<v Speaker 2>just a solid Indie World presentation from start to finish,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of great stuff, including a game that you played.

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Denshattack is coming to switch to now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got a big Dentsha Tech feature in the

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<v Speaker 3>Invincible issue of the magazine where I talked to the

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<v Speaker 3>developers and talk to them a lot about their sort

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<v Speaker 3>of love of the Dreamcast and how Dnshittack kind of

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<v Speaker 3>feels like a sort of a contemporary Dreamcast game. And

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<v Speaker 3>then that Traguler that they showed during the Nintendo event

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<v Speaker 3>was like really showed a lot of the more like

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<v Speaker 3>what I would assume is like later game and saying

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<v Speaker 3>of that game Denshittek by the way, just for contextualize,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like you are, You're on You're controlling a train,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're like doing like Tony Hawk style stunts, like

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<v Speaker 3>on rails on a train. But it's just it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like this Bonker's anime inspired very cool. I liked. I

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<v Speaker 3>liked what I played of it for sure. Literally on rails, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>literally leap off of them and do tricks. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But sorry, sorry to hijack that what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad that you brought it up. Because I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you said, there's a lot of games

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<v Speaker 1>that and there's a lot of people out there that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, switches their primary console or like maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>have a switch and they don't they haven't upgraded to

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<v Speaker 1>next gen on PS five in place that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think it's great. But speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>switch to the new exclusive Pokemon Pocopia, please, I I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear all about it.

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<v Speaker 4>This is.

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<v Speaker 1>Up there with my most anticipated games. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say my most anticipated. It might be depending on the day,

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<v Speaker 1>but regardless, very excited to hear about this thing and

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<v Speaker 1>how it how it lands.

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<v Speaker 4>The execution.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that a lot of people when they

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<v Speaker 2>saw this game, they were just like, oh, it's Animal

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<v Speaker 2>Crossing but Pokemon. And I think there is a degree

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<v Speaker 2>of that that that ended up being true. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think that Dragon Quest Builders is the much more like,

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<v Speaker 2>the much more apt comparison. And that makes sense because

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<v Speaker 2>this is from Omega Force, which did Dragon Quest Builders,

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<v Speaker 2>So totally I would say it's the comparison or the

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<v Speaker 2>recipe that I kind of gave on my podcast was

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<v Speaker 2>it's like sixty percent dragon Quest Builders twenty percent Minecraft

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<v Speaker 2>and then like maybe ten percent animal crossing and then

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent Viva pinata. Okay, So it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>basically it's a lot more linear than animal crossing is,

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<v Speaker 2>at least in its narrative. There is an overarching narrative

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<v Speaker 2>that they are consistently pushing you towards doing. But within

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<v Speaker 2>those that narrative, there's also a like you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going from giant sandbox to giant sandbox, and you're befriending

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<v Speaker 2>and attracting Pokemon to your environment. Basically like you wake

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<v Speaker 2>up as a diddo who if you're unfamiliar with, can

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<v Speaker 2>kind of transform into anything, right, like mostly Pokemon, but

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<v Speaker 2>in this case, it transforms into its human trainer that

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<v Speaker 2>it can't find, and it leaves this cave that he

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<v Speaker 2>wakes up in. He has a poked x, which is

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<v Speaker 2>presumably left by their trainer, and you find a tank

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<v Speaker 2>growth and the tank growth is like, oh yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>humans fled, like humans are no longer here, and you

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<v Speaker 2>have to like and like you look around and it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>something terrible happened in this world. Like the first environment

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<v Speaker 2>is just completely it's literally called withered wasteland. So you

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<v Speaker 2>look out there and like the entire area is just

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<v Speaker 2>brown grass and dead trees and like wilting bushes and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And the first Pokemon you find and is Squirtle. So

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<v Speaker 2>you go up to Squirtle and you talk and he's like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I need a place to live.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like Mystery Dungeon where they're actually talking to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is. It is one of those rare games

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<v Speaker 2>where you actually have like conversations in our language with

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<v Speaker 2>Pokemon because poon you're playing as a Pokemon, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Squirtle's like, oh, I need a place to live.

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<v Speaker 2>very briefly, or parts of Squirtle, and you can use

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<v Speaker 2>type of pokemon. Every pokemon there's so there's a pokeadex

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<v Speaker 2>that you have that is like a pokedex in a

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<v Speaker 2>mainline game where you are filling that out with Pokemon

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<v Speaker 2>that you collect in this game and by collect you're

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<v Speaker 2>befriending them. You're not catching them or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no battling in this game. It's for violence, no conflict. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's legitimately. This is the most animal crossing part

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<v Speaker 2>of this game. Where you are you're building habitats. They're

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, cool, I can help you if you

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<v Speaker 2>pokemon are, the higher your environment level, and the more

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<v Speaker 2>the higher your environment level. One, you need to raise

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<v Speaker 2>your environment level as high as possible for the sake

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<v Speaker 2>of the story. But two, as you raise that level,

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<v Speaker 2>also extremely important. So like, you know, you make Charmander

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<v Speaker 2>like one day he's like, hey, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 2>I like crafted him a bed and put it next

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<v Speaker 2>raises from like average to nice, and then there's like

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<v Speaker 2>another level above that, but like the more comfortable your

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<v Speaker 2>pokemon are and the more pokemon you have that are

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<v Speaker 2>And then that opens up a whole bunch of new avenues.

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<v Speaker 2>But like you know, as you go you find more pokemon,

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<v Speaker 2>you new systems are introduced, Like you know, you get

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<v Speaker 2>like a smelting furnace where you can have pokemon that

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<v Speaker 2>They can actually burn stuff so like they'll they'll turn

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<v Speaker 2>like iron ore that you mine out of the ground

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<v Speaker 2>into iron ignets and that is used in crafting or

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, oh I dug up all this sand

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<v Speaker 2>Pokemon that uses fire turn it into sheets of glass.

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<v Speaker 4>And is that with the express purpose of for building?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>So building there's also so in addition to like crafting

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<v Speaker 2>and everything like that, where it's like, oh, I specifically

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<v Speaker 2>need this one thing, like Charmander wants a bed, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna build him a bed at this crafting table. You

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<v Speaker 2>can also there's there's buildings that you want to actually construct,

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<v Speaker 2>and the main thing is these Pokemon centers. Every environment

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<v Speaker 2>has a Pokemon center that has been destroyed, and you

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<v Speaker 2>learn like what's going on through throughout this narrative, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually one of my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Parts real quick, like is the story. There is a

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<v Speaker 3>story and it's interesting question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you are pulling back the threads of like why

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<v Speaker 2>is humanity no longer in this Pokemon world? Like that

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<v Speaker 2>there is a story behind that, and a lot of it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some of it is like through like dialogue,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of it is through like finding, like

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<v Speaker 2>exploration and finding like journal entries or like newspaper clippings

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<v Speaker 2>of what's going on or like here's and you can

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<v Speaker 2>also find other stuff like I found a magazine article

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<v Speaker 2>about a gym leader. I'm not gonna spoil as I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna keep this as spoiler free as possible, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>it quickly becomes apparent that this is taking place in

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<v Speaker 2>a specific region in the Pokemon world. So like I

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<v Speaker 2>found like a gym leader's like a magazine profile about

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<v Speaker 2>one of the gym leaders from a past game, and

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<v Speaker 2>that unlocked that gym leader's like appearance that you can

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<v Speaker 2>apply to Ditto, so you can you can you can

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<v Speaker 2>unlock like hair styles of something.

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<v Speaker 4>Random exploration.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a random exploration. Like I found like a oh,

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<v Speaker 2>here is this gym leaders like he he is this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to say too much to give

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<v Speaker 2>away who it is, but like and then it's like

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<v Speaker 2>Ditto thinks for a second, and then Ditto can transform

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<v Speaker 2>into like a kind of facsimile of that gym leader. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, this is your new outfit. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to keep it that way? If not, you can

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<v Speaker 2>always transform later into this. And it's like just like

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<v Speaker 2>a way to customize your DODO because like when you

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<v Speaker 2>first get.

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<v Speaker 4>How many of those have you found? Started interrupt?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there's it's not just gym leaders either. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I found assumption. I found something for like, uh, a

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<v Speaker 2>very iconic specific thing. Again trying to step around spoilers there,

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<v Speaker 2>but I wore that. I wore, I wore that for

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<v Speaker 2>most of the game. But I probably found like six

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<v Speaker 2>or seven in costumes and like maybe four hairstyles. But

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<v Speaker 2>I have not found everything very clearly because there are

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<v Speaker 2>some characters that would be in that same area of like,

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<v Speaker 2>they obviously have stuff for all of those all the

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<v Speaker 2>gym leaders, I would imagine are a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>iconic characters from that game in that region.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy that they made a Pokemon game where every

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<v Speaker 3>character you know in love is dead. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's there's stuff. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how far in the future this is supposed to take

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<v Speaker 2>place in this region, so maybe they maybe they were

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<v Speaker 2>just like it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a Tears of the Kingdom situation where it's like

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<v Speaker 3>it's at the end, you know, like don't worry about

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<v Speaker 3>like we're not talking numbers here, but it's at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm wondering, is this like thousands of years in

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<v Speaker 2>the future, or is this like twenty years from now?

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<v Speaker 2>Could characters still be alive?

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<v Speaker 3>Like there's gonna be a nuclear Pokemon in Wind and Waves.

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<v Speaker 2>That explains a lot about what this what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>in this world. But no, it I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>fun to find the narrative and it takes a while

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<v Speaker 2>to get through the story. You know, I I before

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<v Speaker 2>I even really touched the other part of this game,

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<v Speaker 2>which we can talk about in a second. The narrative

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<v Speaker 2>took me over forty hours to get through, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is I would say pretty linear. You go through several

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<v Speaker 2>different environments, you know. The first one is withered Wasteland,

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<v Speaker 2>which is, you know, just a grasslands area that is

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<v Speaker 2>completely dead when you get there, and your objectives are

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<v Speaker 2>primarily to attract new Pokemon work with them to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out how can we end this drought that has hit

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<v Speaker 2>this area and cause it to rain, and also rebuilding

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<v Speaker 2>the Pokemon center in every environment is also pretty important

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<v Speaker 2>as well. So that is the first biome, and that

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<v Speaker 2>takes a lot of exploration. It takes a lot of like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I gotta figure out how to get this Pokemon.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's where the habitat des comes in handy. As

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<v Speaker 2>you explore around the area, there's these little like sparkling

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<v Speaker 2>parts sitting on like different parts of the ground or

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<v Speaker 2>in the environment, and you go up to there and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a hint about like, oh, here is a hint

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<v Speaker 2>for a habitat that you could build nearby that would

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<v Speaker 2>attract a new Pokemon, and so like the like. There

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<v Speaker 2>was one that I found early on that was like, oh, well, here.

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<v Speaker 2>If you do four patches of grass in the shade

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<v Speaker 2>of a tree that is all living, so you have

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<v Speaker 2>to water them to bring them back to life and

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<v Speaker 2>then build the like grow the grass using the bulbosars

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<v Speaker 2>leafage that he taught you, you can attract a cyther

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's what I did. And then you get

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<v Speaker 2>you meet the cyther, and the cyther teaches you cut,

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<v Speaker 2>which allows you to like you know, cut through certain

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<v Speaker 2>objects and and and like there's like debris and some

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<v Speaker 2>some environments and you can use cut to like chop

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<v Speaker 2>those into wood. And then you can bring that wood

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<v Speaker 2>to cyther and he can turn it into lumber, which

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<v Speaker 2>is used for building. So it's like a process.

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<v Speaker 3>And then like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, same thing like if charmander is there, you

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, hey, I found this clay and you

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<v Speaker 2>can give it to him and he will he'll use

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<v Speaker 2>his fire to convert that clay into bricks that you

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<v Speaker 2>can use for building. So it's like these pokemon, even

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't teach you something, they have utility that

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<v Speaker 2>you can they can you can use, and same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, there's a the second environment is a

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<v Speaker 2>beach area. No wait, no, that's the that's the third environment.

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<v Speaker 2>The second environment is like a mountainous area and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's very mining heavy, so like you can build railways

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<v Speaker 2>that like connects the entire thing and almost almost death

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<v Speaker 2>stranding esk in that regard where it's like there's like

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<v Speaker 2>remnants of a railway. It's a strand game. And so like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like every environment like presents different opportunities, even though

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<v Speaker 2>some of the gameplay mechanics are very very similar from

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<v Speaker 2>environment to environment, and it's it's more like I really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed the mystery of like figuring out what happened to

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<v Speaker 2>this world. I enjoyed the Easter eggs, like this is

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<v Speaker 2>a a love letter to the Pokemon franchise through and through,

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<v Speaker 2>and like the gameplay loop is so much like all right,

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<v Speaker 2>just going to start checking him off one by one.

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<v Speaker 2>But then along the way you get distracted. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I was going out there to like mine the specific resource,

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<v Speaker 2>but what's this over here? And like there are times

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<v Speaker 2>where I went way off the beaten path and like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times you find like either those like

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<v Speaker 2>loar drops or those costumes that I was mentioning, and

421
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<v Speaker 2>that is the stuff that I really really looked forward to.

422
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<v Speaker 2>And then other times it's like, oh, I found another

423
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<v Speaker 2>Pokemon I didn't even mean to find, and now he's

424
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<v Speaker 2>on my team and I can I can do things

425
00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:45.599
<v Speaker 2>with them, and it just like I found like something

426
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<v Speaker 2>that looked like in one of the environments was like

427
00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:50.279
<v Speaker 2>an abandoned birthday party, Like everybody just like had to

428
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<v Speaker 2>like get out of dodge and like just left all

429
00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:54.599
<v Speaker 2>the party like stuff set up, and it's like something

430
00:20:54.640 --> 00:21:00.480
<v Speaker 2>happened here very clearly. It definitely feels I mean, it

431
00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:02.599
<v Speaker 2>is a post apocalyptic game for sure.

432
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in terms of like a Fallout game, you know,

433
00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:07.960
<v Speaker 4>it does, I know.

434
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<v Speaker 3>Not a whole lot in a weird choice that I love,

435
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<v Speaker 3>to be clear, but like because it could have just

436
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<v Speaker 3>as easily made this well I don't know, I haven't

437
00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:17.559
<v Speaker 3>played the game, but like to just take place on

438
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<v Speaker 3>some remote island and it probably would have been fine.

439
00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:23.960
<v Speaker 3>But to be like no, no, no, like apocalyptic, it's like cool,

440
00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:24.839
<v Speaker 3>go for it, man.

441
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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you're basically just like rebuilding society. So like

442
00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:35.200
<v Speaker 2>the like the mountainous region is like engulfed in volcanic ash,

443
00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:37.519
<v Speaker 2>so clearly there was like some sort of volcanic eruption

444
00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:40.240
<v Speaker 2>that happened there. And then there's you go to a

445
00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:45.000
<v Speaker 2>beach biome and it's like it is flooded with uh

446
00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:47.680
<v Speaker 2>with just water, Like you have to go and like stop,

447
00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:50.200
<v Speaker 2>like like all the infrastructure of this area has broken

448
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<v Speaker 2>down and all like the little like ravines that were

449
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<v Speaker 2>built by humanity have broken down over time, so like

450
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<v Speaker 2>houses and everything are completely flooded, so you have to

451
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<v Speaker 2>build new like path ways for this water to go

452
00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:03.920
<v Speaker 2>to the ocean so it's no longer flooding your environment.

453
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<v Speaker 2>And then from there, you know, you start meeting more

454
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<v Speaker 2>Pokemon because they were like, oh, thanks for like you know,

455
00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:12.440
<v Speaker 2>draining my house that flooded. Now I can live there,

456
00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:13.799
<v Speaker 2>and like I can help you out.

457
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<v Speaker 1>And picture in a like an environment like an alternate

458
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<v Speaker 1>history where what if Team Magma and Team Aqua.

459
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<v Speaker 2>Were more successful. Yeah, I mean I don't know what

460
00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:28.440
<v Speaker 2>the cause of this all was, and I that even

461
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<v Speaker 2>if I did, I can't spoil anything, so nor would

462
00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:32.839
<v Speaker 2>I want to, because I think it's super fun to

463
00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:35.440
<v Speaker 2>like peel back the layers of what could have happened here.

464
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<v Speaker 2>But like I will say that like I was still

465
00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:42.680
<v Speaker 2>learning like new moves that Ditto could pull off like

466
00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:47.160
<v Speaker 2>thirty hours into my adventures, like within the story, and

467
00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:51.720
<v Speaker 2>it was you know, and that they really were useful

468
00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:54.359
<v Speaker 2>as well, like they were traversal things like like the

469
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<v Speaker 2>one that I can talk about is I found a

470
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<v Speaker 2>dragonite in one of the environments and he taught me

471
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<v Speaker 2>how to fly basically like not not necessarily like fly,

472
00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:06.079
<v Speaker 2>but like glide. You know, it's a very slow descent glide.

473
00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:08.119
<v Speaker 2>So like if you had to get from like one

474
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<v Speaker 2>side of the map to the other, this would basically

475
00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:12.240
<v Speaker 2>do that, but you have to find like a high

476
00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:16.000
<v Speaker 2>vantage point. But yeah, there's there's a lot of really

477
00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:19.640
<v Speaker 2>cool lore based stuff and like just hearing like conversations

478
00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:21.680
<v Speaker 2>in passing, like it's none of its voice. You just

479
00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:24.720
<v Speaker 2>hear the digitized cries that that Pokemon use in every game,

480
00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:27.920
<v Speaker 2>but like seeing dialogue of like, uh, this is an

481
00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:30.680
<v Speaker 2>example Wes used when I was talking to him earlier

482
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<v Speaker 2>of like Charmander and Pidgy, like just we're chatting in

483
00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:38.400
<v Speaker 2>an early sequence and you know, Charmander's just like, oh,

484
00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:40.599
<v Speaker 2>I love how you fly, Like I hope I can

485
00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:42.480
<v Speaker 2>fly one day, And Pidgey's like I have a feeling

486
00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:44.559
<v Speaker 2>flying is in your future. And it's like, oh that

487
00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:47.400
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of cool. That like there's little like conversations

488
00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:49.319
<v Speaker 2>that these Pokemon have and it seems like they're all

489
00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:53.759
<v Speaker 2>like written context specific for those two pokemon to be talking,

490
00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure there's like other things. Like it's funny

491
00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:59.279
<v Speaker 2>because in an early early environment I built, I had

492
00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:01.160
<v Speaker 2>hitm on chanon hitm on Lee, and it just turns

493
00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:04.200
<v Speaker 2>out they love hanging out together, so theyre and like there.

494
00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:06.519
<v Speaker 2>And there are also like moments where like there's like

495
00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:09.400
<v Speaker 2>cool interactions happening, and while you walk by, it'll be

496
00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>a thing that says there's a photo op happening nearby,

497
00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>and you can open up your camera I think it's

498
00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:18.119
<v Speaker 2>the minus button on your switch and take a picture

499
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:20.759
<v Speaker 2>of them and because like it's a special interaction and

500
00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:23.160
<v Speaker 2>you can collect those photo ops as well.

501
00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:26.880
<v Speaker 3>So it's like Pokemon snap light kind of stuff a

502
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:27.559
<v Speaker 3>little bit.

503
00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Like like one of them was like, oh, hitman chan

504
00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Is is punching the punching bag that you put near

505
00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:36.640
<v Speaker 2>his environment, Like so it's it's stuff like that, like

506
00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:39.400
<v Speaker 2>some like action shots or like oh, this Pokemon is

507
00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:42.759
<v Speaker 2>dancing to the music that's playing by DJ Rhadam, which

508
00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:45.680
<v Speaker 2>was one of the the Pokemon that was revealed in

509
00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:49.599
<v Speaker 2>the Pokemon Day stream that they they showed the Poco

510
00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:54.839
<v Speaker 2>Pia trailer. But so the narrative itself is very very linear,

511
00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:57.880
<v Speaker 2>very handholdy. I would say, almost hold on in a

512
00:24:57.960 --> 00:24:59.519
<v Speaker 2>Pokemon game, come on.

513
00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:04.240
<v Speaker 3>Early and never put you back on.

514
00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:09.759
<v Speaker 2>It tries to funnel you towards the narrative will say,

515
00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:12.119
<v Speaker 2>and it's like very dialogue heavy, to the point that

516
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:14.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, wow, like this isn't letting up like

517
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was just that way in like the

518
00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.079
<v Speaker 2>first couple of hours, but like all the way through

519
00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:20.359
<v Speaker 2>to the end, there were like it was like Okay,

520
00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:22.319
<v Speaker 2>you've got to go do this now, like go do this,

521
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:25.400
<v Speaker 2>and like you can ignore them and like instead go

522
00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:28.200
<v Speaker 2>like explore the environment. I often did that, like to

523
00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:29.960
<v Speaker 2>the point that there were times where they were like

524
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:32.480
<v Speaker 2>there was a story cut scene or not cut scene,

525
00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:35.519
<v Speaker 2>but a story like conversation where they're like, Okay, we

526
00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:37.599
<v Speaker 2>need you to go do this, and I'm like, dude,

527
00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:40.319
<v Speaker 2>I did that like seven hours ago, and then like

528
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:42.160
<v Speaker 2>I talked to them again, They're like, wow, you already

529
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:43.960
<v Speaker 2>did that. Thanks, awesome, that was fast.

530
00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:46.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm into that. I like when that when they acknowledge

531
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.200
<v Speaker 3>that in the game, you know, where it's like you

532
00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:51.200
<v Speaker 3>do like yeah, if you're just like doing way more

533
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:52.799
<v Speaker 3>than it expects you to in a moment. Then when

534
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:54.279
<v Speaker 3>it's like finally time to do that thing and they're like,

535
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:56.400
<v Speaker 3>oh wait, you're like wait ahead of that. I don't

536
00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:57.440
<v Speaker 3>mind that, you know. Yeah.

537
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<v Speaker 2>I usually spent a good like seven or eight hours

538
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:04.000
<v Speaker 2>in each biome just exploring, like I would do like

539
00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:06.559
<v Speaker 2>some of the baseline stuff, just to get like a

540
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:09.400
<v Speaker 2>like a small number of Pokemon that I needed, because

541
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:12.000
<v Speaker 2>like in order to do stuff, you need to gather resources,

542
00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:13.960
<v Speaker 2>and you also need to like if I want to

543
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:16.799
<v Speaker 2>rebuild the Pokemon Center, you need to have the specific

544
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:19.680
<v Speaker 2>resources that it has, like like I don't know, it's

545
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:24.599
<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's concrete, sometimes it's bricks, sometimes it's just wood,

546
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:27.319
<v Speaker 2>just to whatever specific to that environment. Then you also

547
00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:29.480
<v Speaker 2>need to have like a bunch of Pokemon, some of

548
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:30.680
<v Speaker 2>which have specialties.

549
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:31.839
<v Speaker 3>So like some.

550
00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Pokemon have like the ability to build some Pokemon have

551
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.759
<v Speaker 2>the ability to bulldoze, some are able to gather resources

552
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:42.720
<v Speaker 2>or search for stuff, some can fly, and like, based

553
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.000
<v Speaker 2>on what you're building, they need different specialties. And based

554
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:47.119
<v Speaker 2>on what you're building, you need a set number of Pokemon.

555
00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:49.559
<v Speaker 2>So if you're building a tiny hut for a Pokemon,

556
00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:51.480
<v Speaker 2>you only need like two Pokemon to help build that,

557
00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:53.599
<v Speaker 2>but a Pokemon center you might need up to like

558
00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:58.599
<v Speaker 2>eight Pokemon, some of which have like certain specialties. So yeah,

559
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:02.559
<v Speaker 2>like I would like basically try to do as much

560
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:06.400
<v Speaker 2>of the exploration as possible while still like steadily like

561
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:11.200
<v Speaker 2>finding those clues of what habitats to build, and also

562
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.319
<v Speaker 2>figuring out, like how do I attract more Pokemon, So

563
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:17.200
<v Speaker 2>that way I still have like when the time comes

564
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:20.839
<v Speaker 2>for me to tackle these narrative missions, I'll have all

565
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.440
<v Speaker 2>the pieces in place that I can have those dominoes fall.

566
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:27.160
<v Speaker 2>And that ended up being I think the approach that

567
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>worked best for me because I would hit a point

568
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:31.680
<v Speaker 2>where I'm like, all right, I've explored this biome enough.

569
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Now it's time to do the story stuff, and I

570
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:36.440
<v Speaker 2>would have all the pieces in place, whereas if I

571
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>was like, Okay, now it's time for me to the

572
00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>story stuff. Oh god, I need like five more Pokemon

573
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:42.359
<v Speaker 2>in order to do that. Now I have to go

574
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 2>do all that stuff, and I feel like that would

575
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:46.480
<v Speaker 2>be annoying to me. So like I appreciate the way

576
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 2>that I approached this game. So you know, once you

577
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:51.839
<v Speaker 2>finish the story, and I mean, you can do this whenever,

578
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:53.559
<v Speaker 2>by the way, So this is not like a once

579
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 2>you finished the story. This is how I did it.

580
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Once I finished the story, there was an entirely separate

581
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:02.240
<v Speaker 2>biome that you can access from the first environment, by

582
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:03.799
<v Speaker 2>the way, so you can do this as early as

583
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:05.799
<v Speaker 2>you want. Once you get through, I would assume, like

584
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:10.039
<v Speaker 2>the tutorial stuff, you can go to this separate area

585
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:13.799
<v Speaker 2>and it is basically as soon as you go in there,

586
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:17.000
<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh, this is such and such town. This

587
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:20.519
<v Speaker 2>is basically your sandbox, and it is bigger than any

588
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 2>of the other biomes in the game and has multiple

589
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>islands that you can go and explore and like develop

590
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 2>and attract Pokemon on. And what it is is it

591
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 2>is just basically like their version, Like if the main

592
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:37.400
<v Speaker 2>narrative is Dragon Quest Builders and Viva Pinata, this is

593
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:42.079
<v Speaker 2>their Minecraft and Animal Crossing where there's no narrative. It

594
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:45.519
<v Speaker 2>is just you going and building this this island up

595
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.559
<v Speaker 2>how you want to build it. Like I'm currently building

596
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:50.960
<v Speaker 2>like this giant mansion for me. I have all my

597
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:53.759
<v Speaker 2>Pokemon working on that right now. So next time I

598
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:55.319
<v Speaker 2>fire up the game, I'll have this mansion and then

599
00:28:55.319 --> 00:29:00.759
<v Speaker 2>I can start decorating my pokemon. Hey, I gave them

600
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 2>a home, Okay, So that is basically the.

601
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:05.480
<v Speaker 4>Entire YouTube comment.

602
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:08.359
<v Speaker 1>That is kind of quite on our review, and I

603
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:09.799
<v Speaker 1>was going to wait to ask you on the show.

604
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:12.759
<v Speaker 1>They said, thanks for the amazing review. I would love

605
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.279
<v Speaker 1>to know more about the free build mode. When do

606
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you unlock it and do you have a full catalog

607
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:22.079
<v Speaker 1>of items available to decorate like Harve's Island or the

608
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>hotel and animal crossing.

609
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:29.880
<v Speaker 2>So I did not go to it until I finished

610
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.839
<v Speaker 2>the second biome and I talked to tank Growth at

611
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Professor tank Growth. Actually I talked to him after I

612
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:37.279
<v Speaker 2>finished it, and he was like, oh, yeah, there was

613
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:40.480
<v Speaker 2>that like other area in Withered Wastelands, like you should

614
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.160
<v Speaker 2>go check that out, and then I did, and then

615
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, this is like a

616
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:47.519
<v Speaker 2>whole like separate game basically tacked onto here. So I

617
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:51.279
<v Speaker 2>think you can go to it pretty early on, and

618
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 2>it is just you know, you have to rebuild a bridge,

619
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:56.839
<v Speaker 2>which all you could all you have to do for

620
00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:59.480
<v Speaker 2>that is like punch the ground using the rock smash

621
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:03.359
<v Speaker 2>ability that on Chand gives you and harvest that and

622
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.839
<v Speaker 2>then place the ground tiles to forge that bridge. So

623
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:10.480
<v Speaker 2>like you can go there pretty much immediately. I think

624
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.160
<v Speaker 2>maybe you have to do like the early missions in

625
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.759
<v Speaker 2>Withered Wasteland. Then once you get there, your inventory is

626
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.599
<v Speaker 2>shared with the main narrative, so it's not a separate mode.

627
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.079
<v Speaker 2>It's just a separate area and it plays exactly the same,

628
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.799
<v Speaker 2>but like you it is there. There's like very loose

629
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<v Speaker 2>like missions and requests, but there's no like important requests

630
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:32.759
<v Speaker 2>like there are in the other biomes. It's just like, yeah,

631
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>go there, build a house. You can use whatever stuff

632
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:38.359
<v Speaker 2>that you have earned in the main game. So like

633
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:40.119
<v Speaker 2>if you want to build that mansion like I talked

634
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:42.680
<v Speaker 2>about it, I think it's just called like a a

635
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.039
<v Speaker 2>house or a cottage or something. I have forget what

636
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.640
<v Speaker 2>like the hierarchy is. It goes from like hut to this.

637
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like four layer four levels of houses that you

638
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 2>can build in order to do that, though, you need

639
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:58.519
<v Speaker 2>to raise the environment level of whatever biome you want

640
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:01.839
<v Speaker 2>to have that high level house. So like I didn't

641
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:05.039
<v Speaker 2>unlock a kit to build that highest level of house

642
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>until I raised like Withered Wastelands to the five level

643
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:13.079
<v Speaker 2>five environment. And then once you do that that, like

644
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>each level environment that you raise, it gives you new

645
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.839
<v Speaker 2>kits to build, and they're all themed after that that

646
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 2>that biomes theme, right, So like Withered Wasteland, it's all

647
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>like leaf huts and then like it's like a leaf

648
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.279
<v Speaker 2>cottage and then a leaf house and stuff like that.

649
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:31.839
<v Speaker 2>So it's not like you have a separate inventory. It's

650
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:33.599
<v Speaker 2>all stuff that you find in the game, So it's

651
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:35.759
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't look at it as a separate mode. I

652
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:40.359
<v Speaker 2>would look at it as a separate area within that game.

653
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:44.079
<v Speaker 2>But it does feel distinct from the other stuff because

654
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:47.440
<v Speaker 2>it's not nearly as handholdy. Like, yes, there are like

655
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>environmental hints of like, oh, if you build this habitat,

656
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:53.519
<v Speaker 2>it'll attract this Pokemon and then you can have new

657
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Pokemon join you, but you can also build houses for

658
00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:58.880
<v Speaker 2>existing Pokemon and have them move in. So if like

659
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.880
<v Speaker 2>you want to relocate pokemon, you can and you can

660
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:04.480
<v Speaker 2>bring Pokemon from one biome to another, which is cool.

661
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Even though you have to reach certain levels and like

662
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.519
<v Speaker 2>accomplishments to reach those extra biomes like in the narrative, eventually,

663
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:17.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, it all becomes just one synergized experience, if

664
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:20.240
<v Speaker 2>that makes sense. And like so I am I'm basically

665
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:22.960
<v Speaker 2>like now that I have completed the story and I'm

666
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:28.000
<v Speaker 2>focusing one hundred percent on this this free build area,

667
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.720
<v Speaker 2>I am basically pilfering every other biome to make this

668
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:34.720
<v Speaker 2>other biome so much better. Like I want that because

669
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.119
<v Speaker 2>it's enormous. Like when I tell you this is like massive,

670
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:41.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say it's like the size of

671
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:43.880
<v Speaker 2>all other biomes combined. It's probably the size of two

672
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:48.160
<v Speaker 2>of them, though, Like it's substantial, Like there's like multiple

673
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.319
<v Speaker 2>islands that you can jump between, and like all of

674
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 2>them have different things that you can explore. It's it's

675
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:57.240
<v Speaker 2>pretty massive, so there's a lot of stuff you can

676
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:01.279
<v Speaker 2>do with that. I'm slowly building outward and I'll probably

677
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:04.680
<v Speaker 2>at some point work to connect all the islands, but like, yeah,

678
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>it's I could see myself now that I've done I'm

679
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.279
<v Speaker 2>done with the story and I've spent a decent amount

680
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:13.519
<v Speaker 2>of time in this separate town. I am, like, I

681
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>plan on probably putting like at least another dozen hours

682
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.680
<v Speaker 2>into this game, just developing this island because it's it's

683
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:21.359
<v Speaker 2>such a satisfying loop and now it's finally the game

684
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:24.480
<v Speaker 2>that I truly wanted, which is like, yeah, go do

685
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:26.119
<v Speaker 2>what you want, man like. And that's what I like

686
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:28.319
<v Speaker 2>about this area is like since you can access it whenever,

687
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:30.559
<v Speaker 2>but like it, like the other stuff you have access to,

688
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:33.759
<v Speaker 2>is dependent upon your progress in the story and also

689
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:37.480
<v Speaker 2>your abilities. Like you know, you don't get that Dragon

690
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Knight glide ability until the final biome, so like, if

691
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:44.200
<v Speaker 2>you want to be able to glide between islands, you're

692
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:46.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna need that. Otherwise you're gonna have to build long,

693
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:49.839
<v Speaker 2>long bridges using like the ground tiles that you harvest,

694
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of Minecraft style.

695
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited to play this. I'm curious where it

696
00:33:54.920 --> 00:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>ranks in you know, your personal rankings of the Pokemon games.

697
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:06.240
<v Speaker 3>Risk, I guess right, like yes, broadly, yeah, broadly yea.

698
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:09.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, have you ever given a Pokemon game a

699
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:12.920
<v Speaker 3>higher review score? Brian and your time a game you haven't? Yeah?

700
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I think I yeah, I think all the Pokemon games

701
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 2>have topped out it in the eights for me so far.

702
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:24.079
<v Speaker 2>And then I gave this a nine. Yeah, and man,

703
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:26.199
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't prepared for where it ranks in terms of

704
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:28.159
<v Speaker 2>like the overall Pokemon games. It's such an apples and

705
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.719
<v Speaker 2>urges comparison between like because there's no combat here. It's

706
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.599
<v Speaker 2>not like an RPG in really any way, aside from

707
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:36.920
<v Speaker 2>the fact that you're accumulating new abilities as you play

708
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:40.960
<v Speaker 2>through it. Can I rank it among the Pokemon spin

709
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:41.679
<v Speaker 2>offs instead?

710
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm checking with the judges. No, they said no, okay, okay,

711
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:52.199
<v Speaker 3>then I'm jot.

712
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I would put it like if we were to rank

713
00:34:55.960 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 2>it wrong all Pokemon games, I'd say, it's like, like,

714
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.519
<v Speaker 2>let's go back to like Pokemon Heart gold and Soul silver.

715
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:05.239
<v Speaker 2>It's not as good as that. Like that is my

716
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:09.400
<v Speaker 2>that's the gold standard to excuse the pun of Pokemon

717
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:13.239
<v Speaker 2>games in my opinion. Since then, I would say the

718
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.280
<v Speaker 2>best game that Pokemon has put out has been Legends Archias.

719
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:20.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think this clears those. Actually, I may have

720
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:23.039
<v Speaker 2>given Legends Archias a higher score. I think I may

721
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:24.639
<v Speaker 2>have given that a nine point twenty five, but I

722
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I somebody else might need to check that while I'm

723
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>talking checking, But yeah, Legends Archias is very good. It's

724
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:37.679
<v Speaker 2>such a difficult compared, but yeah, it's in the conversation

725
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 2>as the best Pokemon game of I would say at

726
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 2>least the last fifteen years. I don't know if I'm

727
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:51.800
<v Speaker 2>ready to award it that title, but it's but yeah, yeah, okay,

728
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, Poco Pia I gave a higher score. And

729
00:35:56.920 --> 00:36:00.639
<v Speaker 2>then uh, you know, as far as the spin offs themselves,

730
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:04.159
<v Speaker 2>I would put this up there, like with like Pokemon

731
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Trading Card game on game Boy Color.

732
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:10.840
<v Speaker 4>That's my number one, baby, Yeah it's not, but spin offs.

733
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:11.639
<v Speaker 4>I love that game.

734
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's probably number one for me as well. I

735
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:15.920
<v Speaker 2>wish they would do a new one of those, because, like,

736
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:19.039
<v Speaker 2>I think that unfortunately, the popularity of TCG has made

737
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 2>it so that we're and like the the proliferation of

738
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 2>like gotcha mechanics has made it so that that's too

739
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.760
<v Speaker 2>tempting for them to actually do like another like Pokemon TC.

740
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:29.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's what the mobile game is right at

741
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:30.480
<v Speaker 3>this point, where you.

742
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:33.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, unfortunately, but there's no like story, like at least

743
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:34.679
<v Speaker 2>worthwhile story.

744
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Imagine you could actually go and explore and beat people

745
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to get their cards.

746
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:39.159
<v Speaker 3>Great, that should do.

747
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:40.639
<v Speaker 2>That's what I wish we would get. But that that

748
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>is on Nintendo Switch online if you have access to

749
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:44.599
<v Speaker 2>the Game Boy catalog, that is there, So I would

750
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.800
<v Speaker 2>recommend people play that as well. But Pocopia, I mean

751
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:49.559
<v Speaker 2>it's up there with that in terms of like my

752
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.679
<v Speaker 2>favorite spinoffs of all time. It's in the top three,

753
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.639
<v Speaker 2>if not number one or two probably I'm trying to

754
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:59.000
<v Speaker 2>think of anything else that like tops it. I mean

755
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:02.559
<v Speaker 2>maybe the original Pokemon Snap just for like the novelty

756
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:05.360
<v Speaker 2>of that era of seeing those Pokemon in three D

757
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:07.480
<v Speaker 2>in that way and like being in their environment. But

758
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:08.840
<v Speaker 2>like by today, you're a.

759
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Big Pikachu guy, like you'll you never shot up about how.

760
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:15.679
<v Speaker 2>You I played Hey You Pikachu while eating a ghost

761
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:18.760
<v Speaker 2>pepper because of the game and former extra life streams

762
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:22.760
<v Speaker 2>back in the day, So I have like a little

763
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:24.880
<v Speaker 2>bit of trauma associated with Hey You Pikachu, which is

764
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:29.880
<v Speaker 2>hilarious and laughing in my face. But yes, if you

765
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:33.880
<v Speaker 2>look on YouTube, there is a clip of me screaming

766
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:39.000
<v Speaker 2>in agony Pikachu. So I would say, like, yeah, it's

767
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:41.960
<v Speaker 2>probably easily top three. Like if you ask like, if

768
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:44.360
<v Speaker 2>you asked me today, what game would I rather play,

769
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:46.519
<v Speaker 2>it's probably in terms of all the spin offs, it's

770
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.920
<v Speaker 2>probably between Pokemon TCG on game Boy Color and Pocopia.

771
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, I'm excited, man, this this uh, this

772
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:56.559
<v Speaker 1>has been on my list for a while. I think

773
00:37:56.559 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people and hearing the way that they are,

774
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:04.199
<v Speaker 1>like really smart decisions they're making with using the Pokemon

775
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:04.440
<v Speaker 1>you know.

776
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 4>It's funny. I back in like.

777
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Twenty nineteen, maybe I was that Game Informer, so maybe

778
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:10.840
<v Speaker 1>it was like twenty twenty.

779
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:12.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't remember. It might even before Game Informer.

780
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:15.039
<v Speaker 1>I like it was back when I was on Twitter

781
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and I like pitched a Pokemon city builder idea where

782
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 1>you were like, you know, building towns and attracting trainers

783
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.280
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. So not quite this, but you're so close,

784
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:33.599
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know. But this is like I'm like, oh,

785
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:36.840
<v Speaker 1>they kind of kind of made like a kind of

786
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 1>version of the game that I really wanted to play,

787
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, Viva Pinata. And that's like really when you

788
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.760
<v Speaker 1>said that as an inspiration, I was like, oh, okay,

789
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:49.599
<v Speaker 1>not that I wasn't gonna play it before, but now

790
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:52.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, come on, all right, let's get here Friday

791
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:53.559
<v Speaker 1>or I guess Thursday night.

792
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I think it's tonight. Actually, I think it

793
00:38:56.480 --> 00:39:00.480
<v Speaker 2>actually comes back, really, I think so, Oh we're recording

794
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:02.159
<v Speaker 2>this on Wednesday. I think it comes out on Thursday.

795
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:03.639
<v Speaker 2>Actually March fifth is the release date.

796
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:04.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh, you're right, you're right.

797
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, since the nights are weird, though they don't always

798
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.559
<v Speaker 3>release east, I don't know, but yeah, you should check

799
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:10.280
<v Speaker 3>for sure.

800
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, I mean it's really good. Like I

801
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.079
<v Speaker 2>I had a blast playing this game, and I thought

802
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I would, but like it surprised me at how like

803
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:23.639
<v Speaker 2>how in into me it sunk its hooks. Yeah, to

804
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:25.559
<v Speaker 2>the point that it would be like one in the morning,

805
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:27.159
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, I really have to go to bed,

806
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:29.559
<v Speaker 2>I have to be up early tomorrow, but like I

807
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:31.719
<v Speaker 2>really want to fulfill this one request real quick. And

808
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:33.800
<v Speaker 2>then you get like sidetracked on the way to doing that,

809
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:36.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's just like it is the ultimate like you know,

810
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:40.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to distract you with this while you're trying

811
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 2>to do that, and you're going to find something completely

812
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:45.360
<v Speaker 2>new to want to focus your attention on. And it's

813
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and this.

814
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:49.599
<v Speaker 1>Is switched to exclusive, right, it is not ONCT one. Okay,

815
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>well cool, Well thanks for thanks for chatting about that.

816
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Brian really appreciate it. I think, you know, people have

817
00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:58.079
<v Speaker 1>got a lot to got a lot.

818
00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:59.559
<v Speaker 4>To pick through with this episode.

819
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Before we get to Scott Pilgrim, I do just want

820
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:06.519
<v Speaker 1>to take a quick ad break and then we'll be

821
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:10.440
<v Speaker 1>back right after this and welcome back to the game.

822
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:14.719
<v Speaker 4>And former show. Kyle. You played beat.

823
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:18.679
<v Speaker 1>And reviewed Scott Pilgrim ex which is the follow up

824
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to What Scott Pilgrim Versus the World, the game which

825
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 1>came out a while ago.

826
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:24.480
<v Speaker 4>I know they kind of.

827
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Re released it a few years back, but this is

828
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.679
<v Speaker 1>like the first proper Scott Pilgrim game we've had in years.

829
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.280
<v Speaker 1>And Brian leo'malley's back at the Helm, right.

830
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.320
<v Speaker 4>Help or helping tribute games.

831
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I know, tribute games people behind Team and T Shredder's

832
00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Revenge and Marvel Cosmic Invasion. They're kind of I guess

833
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:47.079
<v Speaker 1>they are at the Helm, but Brian leo O'Malley is

834
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:50.760
<v Speaker 1>involved the creator of Scott Pilgrim. What do you think

835
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:52.119
<v Speaker 1>about the game and can you kind of give us

836
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.880
<v Speaker 1>a primer of people? I mean, I feel like a

837
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of people listening to this have probably heard of

838
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Scott Pilgrim, and I feel like the game and the

839
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:04.280
<v Speaker 1>movies and the comic they're so synonymous. But just in case,

840
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:05.480
<v Speaker 1>can you give us a quick primer?

841
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean Scott Pilgrim is a franchise based

842
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:11.000
<v Speaker 3>on a comic by Brian Le O'Malley. It's like a

843
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:13.239
<v Speaker 3>coming of age story about like, you know, people in

844
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:15.719
<v Speaker 3>their early twenties who are in like the music scene,

845
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:18.360
<v Speaker 3>and it meshes well with like video games, and it's

846
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:19.800
<v Speaker 3>like it is very much I don't know how you

847
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:21.679
<v Speaker 3>guys felt, but like I remember going to see that

848
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.679
<v Speaker 3>movie in theaters and it starts with Zelda music, like

849
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:28.079
<v Speaker 3>that's how that movie starts, you know, And it's just

850
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:31.599
<v Speaker 3>like this is this was like this for me, Like

851
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:33.719
<v Speaker 3>this movie is for me. I played in a band

852
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:35.840
<v Speaker 3>growing up in high school and college and stuff, so

853
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:38.000
<v Speaker 3>like that that movie is special to me and now

854
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.920
<v Speaker 3>growing up now I have a daughter who's also obsessed

855
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:42.039
<v Speaker 3>with it, Like she loves it. It's like one of

856
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 3>the favorite movies and we watched it a lot, and

857
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:45.840
<v Speaker 3>it is a movie I watch every couple of years

858
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:47.760
<v Speaker 3>where I'm just like, why aren't more movies like this, like,

859
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 3>how come movies don't have this energy? Really? But it's

860
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:54.280
<v Speaker 3>just like a crazy Yeah, it's a fun franchise about

861
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:59.000
<v Speaker 3>it's just like really, what's the word where it's it's

862
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:01.519
<v Speaker 3>not realistic, you know, it's like you're it's about like

863
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 3>it's what do you mean? It's like a metaphor for

864
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:06.599
<v Speaker 3>what it's like to fall in love for the first time,

865
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:09.079
<v Speaker 3>set against someone who grew up playing video games and

866
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:11.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, like fighting and stuff like that. It's fun

867
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:15.239
<v Speaker 3>and like I I like the first game, which was

868
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:17.400
<v Speaker 3>like an Xbox Live arcade game. It was like it

869
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 3>was pre Game Informer for me, but I was doing

870
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:21.880
<v Speaker 3>a lot of like you know, freelance reviews and stuff

871
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 3>like that, and I played it and I enjoyed it,

872
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:27.360
<v Speaker 3>mostly because I like the franchise. I'm not the biggest

873
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.519
<v Speaker 3>beat him up guy. But this either, as the story

874
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.440
<v Speaker 3>goes like that was a game by Ubisoft, and the

875
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.480
<v Speaker 3>team that made it broke off and a lot of

876
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:41.239
<v Speaker 3>those members, you know, became Tribute, so like it is

877
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:43.519
<v Speaker 3>kind of a return to the thing that kind of

878
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:48.719
<v Speaker 3>brought Tribute together, right, Like like Ubisoft people made Scott Pilgrim,

879
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.679
<v Speaker 3>branched off, broke off and started Tribute and then you know,

880
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:53.960
<v Speaker 3>released games, so it's like circling back. And Brian le

881
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:57.079
<v Speaker 3>O'Malley wasn't super involved in that original game because it

882
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.440
<v Speaker 3>was meant to coincide with the film, so he's primarily

883
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.199
<v Speaker 3>working on the and like he submitted some art and stuff.

884
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:06.079
<v Speaker 3>I got a chance to talk to him because I

885
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:07.679
<v Speaker 3>did a feature on it where I went up to

886
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:09.880
<v Speaker 3>Tribute Games in Canada and like got to play the game,

887
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 3>and I did like a video call with Brian le omalley,

888
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:14.159
<v Speaker 3>which was really cool. It was super fun to talk

889
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.159
<v Speaker 3>to him. But he was even saying, he's like, yeah,

890
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:19.360
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't super involved in the original game, like I was.

891
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:20.800
<v Speaker 3>I liked it and I like how it came out,

892
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.360
<v Speaker 3>and I liked my interaction with those people, but like

893
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:26.199
<v Speaker 3>there are things I would have changed or suggested be changed.

894
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I would have like taken more time with the art

895
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 3>that I submitted. But here he's I think his I

896
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:35.440
<v Speaker 3>think his credit is just consultant. But even when I

897
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 3>was up at Tribute, they were kind of like it.

898
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.159
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like consultant was just like the best

899
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:41.760
<v Speaker 3>thing we could come up with. But like he was,

900
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.880
<v Speaker 3>he was very involved, like he helped write it, and

901
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:46.280
<v Speaker 3>like he was saying a lot of the one thing

902
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:48.320
<v Speaker 3>that he was obsessed with, which makes sense for a

903
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:51.599
<v Speaker 3>comic book guy, was that he was like he spent

904
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:54.199
<v Speaker 3>a lot of time editing down the dialogue to make

905
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:57.199
<v Speaker 3>sure that it would like fit on two lines on screen,

906
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:59.559
<v Speaker 3>so clicking for a lot of dialogue and stuff, which

907
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:01.119
<v Speaker 3>I was just like, Oh, that's such a comic book

908
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:03.159
<v Speaker 3>guy thing of like I got to get these this

909
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:05.440
<v Speaker 3>exact amount of words in this word bubble and stuff

910
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:09.280
<v Speaker 3>like that. Yeah, And then and then the game itself

911
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:13.679
<v Speaker 3>is uh is it's weird because it's like not it's

912
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of cannon but not really canon, but like what

913
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:18.400
<v Speaker 3>is canon? And Scott Pilgrim, who knows, like it doesn't

914
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:21.239
<v Speaker 3>there's not really a canon. It's like there's the comic

915
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:23.039
<v Speaker 3>that has a beginning, middle, and end. The film has

916
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:25.599
<v Speaker 3>a beginning, middle, and end. The anime is sort of

917
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.559
<v Speaker 3>a follow up to both in a way, the film

918
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 3>and the comic. And then like then the original this

919
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.239
<v Speaker 3>is kind of a sequel to the original video game

920
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:35.239
<v Speaker 3>and the and that this game kind of takes place

921
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 3>after the anime, and the anime was like a time

922
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:39.719
<v Speaker 3>travel story anyway. So it's like I think I even

923
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:41.760
<v Speaker 3>asked O'Malley and he was kind of like, I don't know, man,

924
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Like it's like it's not really what the scot Yeah,

925
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:47.000
<v Speaker 3>it's like it's just meant to be an excuse to

926
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:47.719
<v Speaker 3>like get a bunch.

927
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:51.719
<v Speaker 4>Of characters an anthology series. Yeah, and they're the same characters.

928
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I I ended up. I gave it a seven

929
00:44:54.159 --> 00:45:01.400
<v Speaker 3>seven to five mainly because it's like it's it's familiar,

930
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:05.199
<v Speaker 3>if that makes sense. There's nothing particularly like super exciting

931
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:09.119
<v Speaker 3>or new or unexpected in the game. Tribute has gotten

932
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:11.400
<v Speaker 3>really good at making these kinds of games which are

933
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:14.159
<v Speaker 3>like a nostalgic, sort of retropixelated beat them ups, Like

934
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:16.880
<v Speaker 3>the Ninja Turtle game is great, the Marvel game is great,

935
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.679
<v Speaker 3>and this one's great too. But it's just like it's

936
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.039
<v Speaker 3>it was just hard to get like really excited about it,

937
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:25.679
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's just nothing really like put me more. Yeah,

938
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:28.119
<v Speaker 3>but it's like, but it looks great and it's a

939
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:32.000
<v Speaker 3>new soundtrack from Atamanagucci. I love. The soundtrack for the

940
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 3>original game is like an all time favorite video game soundtrack,

941
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:37.039
<v Speaker 3>like truly, like if I were to rank some of

942
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:39.320
<v Speaker 3>my favorite video game soundtracks, Like I would you know,

943
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:42.599
<v Speaker 3>Donkey Kong Country would be up there, you know, pick

944
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:44.480
<v Speaker 3>your poison with Zelda, you know, I could probably pick

945
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:47.960
<v Speaker 3>one or two Zelda games and like Halenic obviously, yeah,

946
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:50.880
<v Speaker 3>for a certain type of person for sure, And and

947
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:53.079
<v Speaker 3>I would truly I would put like the original Super

948
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:56.039
<v Speaker 3>met Boys soundtrack and the Scott Pilgrim video game soundtrack

949
00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:58.559
<v Speaker 3>up there, Like I listened to that often. I really

950
00:45:58.559 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 3>love that soundtrack.

951
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm on a Gucci do the movie soundtrack?

952
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:05.559
<v Speaker 3>No, they didn't just anime, but they did not. They

953
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:08.639
<v Speaker 3>weren't involved with the movie. The movie was primarily actually

954
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:10.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but I know Beck was heavily involved

955
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:13.440
<v Speaker 3>in the movie soundtrack. All the original yeah, like all

956
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:16.440
<v Speaker 3>the original rock songs you know that like Scott's band

957
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:19.079
<v Speaker 3>plays those are like Beck wrote those songs, you know.

958
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, Wait, Michael Sarah didn't write that song.

959
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.039
<v Speaker 3>Although quite talented musician that Michael Sarah. I think he

960
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:26.280
<v Speaker 3>released an album recently.

961
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I recently rewatched that movie on the way back from Japan.

962
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:33.199
<v Speaker 2>It was one of them on like the seatback things,

963
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:35.400
<v Speaker 2>and I tried to get my fiance to watch it

964
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.599
<v Speaker 2>and about halfway through she was she tried to be

965
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.000
<v Speaker 2>very nice. She was like, that was different from anything

966
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:42.199
<v Speaker 2>I've ever watched, but you can keep watching. So I'm

967
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:42.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna go to sleep.

968
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:47.639
<v Speaker 3>So she was Anna Kendrick basically a game, So I

969
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:47.960
<v Speaker 3>get it.

970
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:48.679
<v Speaker 2>I get it.

971
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:54.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she hates fun but anyway, but yeah, so and

972
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:57.000
<v Speaker 3>there's like the comments like you kind of know what

973
00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:58.840
<v Speaker 3>to expect coming into this if you've played like the

974
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:01.039
<v Speaker 3>beat him up like Team in or anything like that,

975
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Like this is a co op beat them up. It's

976
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:06.719
<v Speaker 3>it's more inspired by River City Ransom, which was not

977
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 3>a game like I played that was not like a

978
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:11.880
<v Speaker 3>touch point for me growing up or anything. But the

979
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.519
<v Speaker 3>result is that it's it's actually kind of like open

980
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.280
<v Speaker 3>world and quotes like, you know, don't come into this

981
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:19.159
<v Speaker 3>expecting grand theft auto but like it's not a series

982
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:21.480
<v Speaker 3>of levels that you travel between on an overworld map.

983
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interconnected screens that you're kind of passing through.

984
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:26.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like and it's Toronto and there's like there's like

985
00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:29.199
<v Speaker 3>portals to like altern dimensions and stuff, and it's like

986
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:30.960
<v Speaker 3>that that part of the game I really liked because

987
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:33.239
<v Speaker 3>it was like adventure game light where it was like

988
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:36.000
<v Speaker 3>an NPC would be like, oh, you know, I like

989
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:38.280
<v Speaker 3>I I think I saw the character you're looking for

990
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:40.559
<v Speaker 3>in a school, and then you're like, oh, where did

991
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I Where was that school? And then you would have

992
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:44.159
<v Speaker 3>to kind of you actually like walk over there, and

993
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:45.840
<v Speaker 3>the city's like small enough where it's like it never

994
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:48.639
<v Speaker 3>takes too long. But I just like, I just always

995
00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:51.639
<v Speaker 3>will appreciate that approach to like a world, because then

996
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 3>it just kind of feels consistent, you know, it doesn't

997
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.480
<v Speaker 3>feel like a little blocked off chunks that you're entering

998
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.280
<v Speaker 3>and exiting. So I liked that part of it. Yeah,

999
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:04.559
<v Speaker 3>it's good. It's a super solid cooperative beat him up

1000
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:08.679
<v Speaker 3>with like fun characters and fun dialogue, and like I

1001
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:11.760
<v Speaker 3>was never like emotionally moved by the plot or the

1002
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:14.119
<v Speaker 3>story or anything like that, but as a means to

1003
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:17.840
<v Speaker 3>kind of like jump around and see familiar characters and

1004
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 3>like see new characters that Brian Leomalley created, Like it's

1005
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:24.320
<v Speaker 3>all it's all fun and and effective, you know, but

1006
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:26.519
<v Speaker 3>just not like not it like I think I might.

1007
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:28.400
<v Speaker 3>In my review, I wrote like it made me happy,

1008
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:31.400
<v Speaker 3>but not ecstatic. You know, it's just like yeah, solid

1009
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:34.079
<v Speaker 3>love love hanging out with Scott again. Thank you. You know.

1010
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:38.079
<v Speaker 2>How does this compare to tribute to other games like Marvel,

1011
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Cosmic Invasion and Shredder's Revenge.

1012
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:46.519
<v Speaker 3>I think that this would probably be my favorite of

1013
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:51.079
<v Speaker 3>those three. Wow, maybe Ninja Turtles like a close second.

1014
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:53.719
<v Speaker 3>I played a little bit of Marvel, and I like.

1015
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:56.239
<v Speaker 3>I like Marvel fine, it's I didn't really get nostalgic

1016
00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:59.519
<v Speaker 3>over like seeing sprite version of those like Marvel characters

1017
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.159
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that, but I like the The layout

1018
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:04.760
<v Speaker 3>of the world is the thing that I found most

1019
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:08.039
<v Speaker 3>like interesting and like like engaging. You know.

1020
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, those other games are more so level to level.

1021
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is which is?

1022
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:15.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And I just I liked I like this. I

1023
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:18.000
<v Speaker 3>like being able to be in Toronto because, like the

1024
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:20.239
<v Speaker 3>setting of Scott Pilgrim is is crucial, you know.

1025
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean not to say that go to Toronto.

1026
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:25.559
<v Speaker 3>I no, surely I can.

1027
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:29.159
<v Speaker 2>For how much longer? Who knows?

1028
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:33.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Right? But yeah, super solid, super solid game with

1029
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.000
<v Speaker 3>a great soundtrack that I look forward to sort of

1030
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:38.000
<v Speaker 3>sort of seeing if it kind of sticks in my

1031
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.480
<v Speaker 3>brain as much as the soundtrack for the original game,

1032
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:41.920
<v Speaker 3>did you know, I don't know if it's up on

1033
00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:44.239
<v Speaker 3>like streaming platforms yet, but I love on them on

1034
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:46.719
<v Speaker 3>a Gucci so like to get a new soundtrack from them.

1035
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:47.559
<v Speaker 3>It's always exciting.

1036
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:50.639
<v Speaker 4>And when when is this out? Is this out now?

1037
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:52.039
<v Speaker 3>Is out now? Yeah?

1038
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:52.719
<v Speaker 4>Out now? Okay?

1039
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And I played on switch to and it ran great,

1040
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 3>like new issues on switch to whatsoever looks great? Ran great,

1041
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:01.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, quick loading, all that fun stuff. I don't

1042
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:02.840
<v Speaker 3>think I ever really saw any like frame ring drops

1043
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:04.920
<v Speaker 3>or anything, which is like impressive because there's actually a

1044
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<v Speaker 3>lot happening on screen. You know, there's a lot of

1045
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:09.920
<v Speaker 3>like stuff bouncing around. Sometimes it got even a little

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<v Speaker 3>too chaotic.

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<v Speaker 4>For me to the point remember that in your review.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't even really know what's happening, but I

1049
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 3>seem to be winning, so I'm just gonna roll with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Couch co op to right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, yeah, up to four players, yeah okay, and it's

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00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:24.920
<v Speaker 3>drop in drop out very easily played. Played a bit

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<v Speaker 3>with my daughter the other you know, the Scott Pilgrim

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00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:30.639
<v Speaker 3>fan in my household, and uh it worked well when

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00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:32.559
<v Speaker 3>she got tired of hanging out with her dad. She

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<v Speaker 3>was very easy for her to leave in that ktinue playing.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that lost her cool well, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to bring us to the end of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Alex, this is this is circular. I want to plug. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to plug. An interview I did on the

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00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:56.920
<v Speaker 3>website recently with director Matt Johnson, who directed the recent

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<v Speaker 3>Nirvana the Band The Show the movie, which I highly

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00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:03.239
<v Speaker 3>recommend if you can see it in theaters, you should.

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00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:06.480
<v Speaker 3>It's a fantastic, hilarious movie that I really loved, speaking

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00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:09.239
<v Speaker 3>of movies that just take place in Canada that have

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00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:10.920
<v Speaker 3>a lot of energy, that you watch and are like,

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00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:12.239
<v Speaker 3>how come more movies aren't like this?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I've heard great things about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Oh it's so good. I've seen it twice. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I I loved it so much, but I got I

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00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.119
<v Speaker 3>talked with him because like he's clearly like you watch

1072
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:26.000
<v Speaker 3>that movie. His previous movie, BlackBerry even, which is another

1073
00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:30.880
<v Speaker 3>fantastic movie. It's like very video game coded. He loves

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00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:32.760
<v Speaker 3>video games. So there's this interview on the website with

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00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:35.920
<v Speaker 3>this director Matt Johnson, who also is the we Shop

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<v Speaker 3>Update Day sketch.

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<v Speaker 4>We shot Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we shop Wednesday. That's that's not bad. Yeah, that's

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00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.800
<v Speaker 3>that's him. You know you might so really Yeah, yeah,

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00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:48.360
<v Speaker 3>which I talked to him about that in an interview too.

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00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.400
<v Speaker 3>That song will get stuck in your heads so much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I had this experience when I saw

1083
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:56.760
<v Speaker 3>trailers for BlackBerry, where I was like, this movie looks great.

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00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:59.199
<v Speaker 3>Why does that guy look so familiar? And it took

1085
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:01.199
<v Speaker 3>me a while to be like, Oh, it's that's him.

1086
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 3>And then and then I looked it up and I

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00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:07.880
<v Speaker 3>was like, he directed this movie. Yeah, and he's and

1088
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:09.880
<v Speaker 3>he has a couple of projects come up, but he's

1089
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:12.960
<v Speaker 3>also directing a Magic the Gathering movie, which I am

1090
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:16.440
<v Speaker 3>very curious to see what interesting looks like. Yeah. He

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00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:18.239
<v Speaker 3>all he could tell me about it was that he's

1092
00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:20.079
<v Speaker 3>doing it and he's excited about it. That was all

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00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:23.639
<v Speaker 3>he was able to say. But the reason I bring

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00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:25.920
<v Speaker 3>it up is because A. I want to plug it. B.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about Scott Pilgrim in that interview because he's

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<v Speaker 3>very He's a very Canada guy, very like like he's

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00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:35.079
<v Speaker 3>you watch any of his BlackBerry Nirvana the band of

1098
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:38.519
<v Speaker 3>the movie. The show is like a very Canada movie,

1099
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<v Speaker 3>Like it's just like it is is like, this is

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00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:42.559
<v Speaker 3>a movie that takes place in Canada. And then the

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00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:45.039
<v Speaker 3>create the funny thing about it was I talked to him,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a great chat, and then I got off

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00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:49.400
<v Speaker 3>the call with him and picked Scott Pilgrim ex back

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00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:51.960
<v Speaker 3>up to continue my review. And there was an easter

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00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:55.280
<v Speaker 3>egg that was a direct reference to Nirvana the Band

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00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:58.679
<v Speaker 3>the show, which if you're not familiar, it's the premise

1107
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:00.719
<v Speaker 3>is it's these two guys who are constantly trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get their band a gig at the at this bar

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<v Speaker 3>called the Rivali. And there's a character and there's npcasons

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00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:08.039
<v Speaker 3>the Scott Pilgrim video game who are like, Hey, what

1111
00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:09.599
<v Speaker 3>are you doing tonight? And they're like, oh, I heard

1112
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:11.400
<v Speaker 3>my friends Jay and Matt are playing a show at

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<v Speaker 3>the Rivali. So it's so funny that I literally hung

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<v Speaker 3>up the phone with Matt Johnson and then like started

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<v Speaker 3>playing Scott Pilgrim and found that like five minutes later.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the circular plug I'm making here. Scott Pilgrim,

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<v Speaker 3>Nirvana the Band, the Show of the movie interview on

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<v Speaker 3>the website. Please I insist you check it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, while you're checking that out, be sure to go

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00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:36.039
<v Speaker 1>and check out the YouTube channel YouTube dot com. Slash

1122
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Game Informer got a lot of great stuff on there,

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<v Speaker 1>including by the time you're listening to this, probably some

1124
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:46.519
<v Speaker 1>our first Invincible cover story video, as well as a

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00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:48.800
<v Speaker 1>bunch of video. We got a Scott Pilgrim The X review.

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00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:51.000
<v Speaker 1>We got a Pokemon po Copia review up there. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see those games in action, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>follow these guys on social media. You can follow Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>at Kyle Hilliard go file, follow Brian at Brian P.

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<v Speaker 1>Shay uh, and you can follow me at It's Van Aiken.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you all for for listening. Be sure please pick

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<v Speaker 1>up a copy of Game Informer, gamiformer dot com, slash subscribe,

1133
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<v Speaker 1>or find us on your news stands uh and uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be it. Guys, Hope you have a great

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<v Speaker 1>week and we'll see you next time.

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<v Speaker 4>Bye.