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Speaker 4: Hockey lie back once again to talk fantasy hockey. I

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Speaker 3: I'm doing awesome, Jesse. How are you doing, my friend?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great. I'm doing great. I'm ready to talk

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some more fantasy hockey. It never sleeps. My rookie drafts

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are done. I'm all geared up, in no place to

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go until October. So yeah, I couldn't be happier. I

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think people could come and share those positive feelings, those

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positive vibes in our discord. It's a place to do

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that sort of thing, and I'd recommend it. All you

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and myself up at fan Hockey Life at Victor Nino

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Speaker 3: There's lots of extra content if you're interested in that. Obviously,

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team preview series for you and trying to dig into

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studs on your fantasy roster of forwards, d goalies, twenty

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Speaker 4: Right, and we will be right back in a moment

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to talk Vancouver Canucks. We welcome back to the show

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from the Vancouver Sun. Patrick Johnston, how you doing today, Patrick.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, guys. Raining today feels like fallow hockey's around

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the corner.

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Speaker 4: Raining in Vancouver ever, Oh yeah, it would be understandable

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for you to be in the mood to get back

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to hockey, because Vancouver Canucks hockey was some pretty good

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stuff last year. What a year its standing points? Yeah, yeah,

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way more than I expected coming to the year, and

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I'm sure a lot of others too. Sixth most goals,

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six fewist against. They held a three to two league

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in round two of the playoffs until Connor McDavid happened,

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as he frequently does. Between twenty thirteen and last year,

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the Canucks had a total of two playoff appearances and

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one series win. So it had been a long time

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coming for the Canucks fans, but last year was a

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nice jump forward. The team is typically there's this seems

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like there's a lot of drama around the Kuks. I

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don't know, I'm not in Vancouver, you are, Patrick, but

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it seems like there's some drama. But this is a

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pretty darn good Canucks team. Is the view from BC

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that they are going to be firmly in the Stanley

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Cup picture this year or they're worries that big jump

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last year is gonna slide back down to the middle

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Speaker 2: Things are never boring, That's what I said. I've been

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covering this team for six years now. It's never been boring,

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even when they're winning. And now, of course you guys

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roll the tape of our discussion from last summer or

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I'm sure everything I said was wrong. Yeah, the vibes

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are good. The team obviously massive step forward last year.

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The playoff run was I think the consensus was that

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the playoff run was as great as people have maybe

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been hoping for. Right Like, they hadn't been in the

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as you noted, had barely been in the playoffs the

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last decade. The one run they really had was in

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the summer of COVID in twenty twenty, in the bubble

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when nothing I think really can be pointed to as

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being a predictive thing that was going down the road.

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lot of these players were in that window. I mean,

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you've asked them going into the playoffs, guys, is there

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anything to be drawn like? It was a tough experience, Bobb,

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about it. So this season was a real, real stepping stone,

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a real kind of announcement by a group of players

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who wanted to prove that they were good and hadn't

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anymore but came in and was brought into a sort

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of veteran presence, the guy who would bottel attitude if

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you will, had said, as we were going down the stretch,

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I talked about this at one point, and he said,

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the thing that we need to understand is that being

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a good team, good teams make the playoffs and then

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things get hard. And but the conversation he had said,

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he came in at the beginning of the year and

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he would ask his new teammates, do you guys think

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we're a good team? And then we go yeah, I

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think so, then why didn't you make the playoffs? And

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good teams make the playoffs? Was his point. You guys

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need to dig deeper. You may think you're good, but

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there's so much more, which is I think Also Rick Tackett,

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like coach Rick Talckett, will tell you that the biggest

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challenge of a coach is to get the player to

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a place they didn't know they could get to, and

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a lot of guys on this team got there, and

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there's still a ways to go for a number of players,

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even those guys that maybe did take a step forward,

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a guy like Quinn Hughes or a guy like j T. Miller,

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certainly Elas Petterson who struggled down the stretch in the playoffs,

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that's a guy they believe can step forward and become

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something more than he's been. So yeah, the vibes are good,

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there's confidence is high. Obviously, made a bunch of changes

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again this summer. It's gonna be a different team, similar style,

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but a different team in the end than the one

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we saw in the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with the stars of this team.

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Speaker 2: JT.

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Speaker 4: Miller. Fifth year in Vancouver, and it was his best yet.

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He crossed the century line in points for the very

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first time, set a career high with two hundred and

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seventeen delightful hits. Fantasy managers saw Miller rise from a

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cool player who's a guy pushing to a guy who's

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pushing for top ten production. Now he's just that good.

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He's elite. An amazing example of a guy who didn't

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debut is a superstar, but seems to get a little

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bit better, a little bit better every single year and

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push it as career goes along. Have we finally reached

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the top of the mountain for JT. Miller? Or at

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coming into his thirties, is their possibility that he could

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even raise his game further?

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Speaker 2: He is thirty one now, and that's the thing to

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remember here, and I think we all have seen the

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aging curves and what happens you hit thirty and that

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production starts to fall up the cliff. Now, Miller has

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been an interesting, fascinating, really story in Vancouver, a guy.

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Let's be clear that Jim Benning did not have many

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hits in terms of player acquisition during his eight years

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as canucktion general manager. But JT. Miller clearly was a

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home run. And they got a player who, you know,

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two very good teams had moved on from. The Rangers

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had decided to move on from him. The Lightning, who

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were in a cap crunch figure looked at who they

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had and said, this is not a guy we're going

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to stick with. He was good enough for them to

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try out and take him into the playoffs. But at

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the end of the day, they went, Nope, this isn't

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a guy that we're going to hang on to. We've

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got other options. And so at that point you're looking

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at a player that, hey, he's good, but what's going

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on here? But since he's been in Vancouver point per

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game player, a guy that scored more than thirty goals

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three years in a row. That's the thing that people

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maybe miss. But this is the guy that puts the

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puck in the net. He's not just an offensive distributor.

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He does everything. This is the modern power forward. You

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talk about the career high and hits. This is a

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guy who gets in on the pock, makes stuff happen.

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I'm sure we're going to talk about his number one bringer, Brockbster,

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very soon. A guy that's found the perfect complimentary piece

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in Brockbester. These two works so well together. Miller's an

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unbelievable passer. I remember almost from the get go that

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we had you'd see him make these passes and just

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it's a thing of beauty to watch a guy. The

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way the guy manages the puck, the way the guy

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hits teammates on the tape. He is just such a

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fun player. But yes, thirty one and heading into the

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second year of a big seven year contract that he

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signed with the Canucks. This guy right now is fascinating

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to see where he's going to go. You look at

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the history of all time great Canucks and there have

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been a lot of very good players in this town

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over the years. Miller is now stepping into that category.

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He's going to be one of the Canucks all time names.

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carry it on. The Canucks obviously need him to be

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a top center. He's not a perfect player. He's had

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some defensive flaws, obviously has improved them, has gotten a

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lot better. I think the Canucks system, which is a

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much more puck possession focused game, has suited him really well,

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and we can see the results career hiding points an

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ascended player got ninety nine points two years ago in

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a season that was total chaos. Step back a little

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bit and maybe the assist. Playing with Brockbster has been

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a huge thing for him and he has created opportunities

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for the wingers he plays with. As we see goalscoring

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go down, he is still going to create opportunities for

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his teammates. He's going to be a guy that's going

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to keep producing in that way anyway for a few seasons. Yet,

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Speaker 4: Elias Peterson is the next man to talk about. Most

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of his box score stats actually trended a little bit

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down from the career year the year before, except for

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again a phenomenal one hundred and twenty five hits that

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was a sick sixty seven percent jump from his prior high.

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start hitting people. Maybe he was.

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Speaker 2: Started counting more hits here or something. None of us

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thought that, but.

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Speaker 4: There you go. We need to know about that one. Yeah,

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shots were down twenty percent for Peterson, points down thirteen percent,

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and he skatered a minute less per night. That said,

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his overall impact in the advanced metrics, so the Canucks

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seems to have improved last year. Face off percentage went

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from fairly weak to a positive, his defense is holding steady,

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and he gets Selki votes every year these days? Is

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Alias at his ceiling now? And what do you think

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next year is going to look like?

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Speaker 2: I think the thing to understand about him is a

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season of two halves. He was NHL like people forget

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he was the NHL Player of the Month in January,

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like he had this incredible run going. The Canucks went

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on this really top Eastern road trip at the beginning

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of the year in January, and they dominated. They beat everybody.

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It was kind of a season defining road trip. Obviously,

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to that point they'd been playing really well, picking up points,

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they were top of the league. They're doing everything right.

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this is a beast and they kicked butt, and a

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lot of it was because of the play of LEAs Petterson.

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Then the All Star break comes and everything fell off

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the cliff, and he kept in scaysing, no, I'm not hurt. No,

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I'm not hurt. No, I'm not hurt. But nobody could

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figure it out, and he revealed it in the air.

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knee tendonitis, but even the team downplayed that. He didn't

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really seem convinced. He wanted to talk about an excuse,

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but he struggled down the stretch. He struggled in the playoffs. Now,

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some of that, it is worth noting of who he

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was playing with. They trade away Andrey Kuzmenko, who obviously

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was never going to repeat the season he had but

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then said this just isn't worth it anymore and moved

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on from him. And he had been Petterson's ser number

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one winger for the longest time. Ilia mckayev had been

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a guy. He actually recovered from n injury, was skating

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a lot better by the end of the year, but

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just couldn't put the puck in the net anymore. And

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there were a number of opportunities, I think, most notably

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in Game seven against the Oilers, where he hasn't He

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had chances to bury it and he couldn't do it.

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And so that's a few more points right there for Peterson.

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He puts himself into the nineties, right, so, even as

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he was struggling, he was still finding ways to produce.

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They just weren't going in the net. Now, that does

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not absolve him from the poor play overall. He wasn't

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driving the net the way he had He wasn't shooting

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the way he had, and that is the sirt of

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question mark Kenny. I think he'll get back. I have

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no doubt about that. We've seen too much from him

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over the years. He's a player who's been a dominant

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player at every level. Last fall or sorry, last spring

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was the first time in his career he really had

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any sustained amount of struggle. I think mentally that was

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the challenge. How to deal with that, how to overcome that,

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And that's I think going into the season. His coach

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has said all the right things. Lik Talkt is an

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incredible motivator. He is a real players centered coach. He

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cares about his players, and so the project in front

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of Petterson is to basically not have that happen again,

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just become the confident, dominant player that he's always been. Obviously,

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he's getting Jake Debrest PLAYSTHM. He's gonna be interesting if

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Daniel Sprong plays with him. Sprong is obviously an offense

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first kind of guy, but a very creative player that

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knows Petterson pretty well. Will be interesting to see how

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that shake. So. Obviously, Neils Hoglander could be a factor

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in that as well, though I think he's more likely

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to be a depth winger, but there's certainly offensive options

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to go with Petterson that we just didn't really see

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very much last year, and having guys who can play

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with him, I think is going to do huge things

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for his game.

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Speaker 3: They already alluded to Brock Bessler, and of course we're

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going to talk about him next. And he had a

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career season in terms of point pace seventy four. He

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also had queer highs for games played, goals, power play points.

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Things were definitely great for Bester seemed to be pointing up.

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I did notice an interesting trend. Every three seasons he

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seems to go over a seventy point pace and under

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in between. I'm not sure if that's just randomness or

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what the case may be, But Patrick, what do you

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think about Brock? Do you think he's gonna stay over

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a seventy point pace next season or does he regress

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as the trend has suggested previously.

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Speaker 2: I'll point out to one other thing that this was

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really only the second season of his career where he

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really was healthy all the way through the year. Last

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year twenty two twenty three, pretty healthy but still missed

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eight games. But his general course had been to miss

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ten to twenty games through injury. His rookie season, he

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was on He was a contender for the Calder in

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his rookie season, and then he has a terrible injury

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bit and smashing his back into an open door at

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the bench, knocking out for the rest of the season.

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He would have scored thirty goals as a rookie and

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he never really come close to that. His second year,

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he was again pretty good, but had an injury during

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twenty nineteen twenty. He had suffered a grain I think

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it was a groin injury and was out when the

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season came to an end. And that had been a frustration.

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They had been an ongoing question mark will he be

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able to find any kind of durability, and last year

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he did. The Cannucks asked him to change the way

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he prepares for the season, the kind of exercise and

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the routines that he was doing at home in Minnesota.

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He'd always gone with a particular coach. He was a

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strength coach he was familiar with. The Canucks said, would

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you consider using this other guy that we think would

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be a better fit for you. He went for it.

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We saw the results. He was came in fitter than ever,

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came in stronger than ever, and like I said, built

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this partnership with JT. Miller. That was a fabulous thing

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to watch night and night out. And the biggest thing

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with Bassar, I would say, more than anything. And it

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wasn't something that he wouldn't go to the net before,

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but he started finding the pucks again around the net,

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and I think that came back to that strength thing

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that improved agility. If you look, I don't have it

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in front of me, but if you go and look

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the number of backhand goal goals he's scored this year.

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Back end goals is usually a sign of a scramble,

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whack and pucks in. He's scored a lot of goals

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on top of the crease and that's a part of

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his game he's been constantly working to develop. I absolutely

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think it's it's hard to predict a guy scoring forty

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goals again, But then again, we're in a high offense

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environment now right. I think he's a safe bet to,

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assuming he stays healthy, a safe bet to score thirty

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goals again. Still only twenty seven. It's also a huge

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year for him right contract year. He could be a

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free agent next summer, and he's got a lot to

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play for this year. He's going to be very motivated

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to show everything, and he's done all the right things.

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He's got a great, high character player, a guy who

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really plays with passion and has long wanted to be

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the player he was last season, and I don't think

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there's any doubt he's going to try to make that

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happen again.

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Speaker 3: All right, what's good stuff on Bessera. Let's talk about

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Jake Debrust Now. He regressed last season to a forty

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one point pace after hitting a sixty four point pace

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the previous season in Boston. Then obviously in the offseason

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signed a seven times five point five five million dollar

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contract with the Canucks. It seems like there's a top

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six spot for debrask either with EP forty or JT. Miller.

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Both would be a boost for his potentially a boost

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for his point totals from last season. So Patrick, is

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that how you see it? And if I put the

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over and under at sixty point pace for Debresk, which

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are you taking for him next season?

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Speaker 2: I think it over. He's gonna end up playing with

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Petterson probably start. I think the feeling is that's the

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slot that makes the most sense. My sense is just

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talking for people, haven't scenes that's what they want to see.

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If it works, obviously write it down on paper and

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now you actually then you actually have to go do

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it on the ice. But yeah, I would. I think

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he's a strong candidate for an over a guy that

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lent nineteen goals this year, but really look at his

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career path right like twenty seven to twenty five, twenty seven, Like,

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this is a guy that's been scoring in the twenties,

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and certainly when he's been healthy, he's been able to

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produce other than last year, a real outlier in terms

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of his production, turning twenty eight in October, still in

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the prime s career and let contract that I know

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you guys are talking with fantasy hockey, but the contract

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was perfectly primed for this team. It was a perfect number,

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it was a great term. He's gonna be a great fit,

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I think on the team, the way he wants to play.

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It's certainly a player that Rick Talkeett I know, is

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excited to bring in. So yeah, listen, there's a guy

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that I that he's got a great upside, and I

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think there's every reason to think that he's going to deliver.

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Speaker 4: Hey, no problem talking contracts. Patrick we Bicker and I

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played a couple leagues where we use those contracts.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 4: The team, we've got a couple more forwards to hit.

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We'll do a little bit more rapid fire. First, we

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got Connor Garland versus Daniel Sprong. Both of them about

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the same point space mid to upper forties last year,

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both of them pretty much healthy all year. Garland, of course,

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even though he's only one year older, has about five

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times a salary he's he's been around, and he came

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in as from another team. So Garland and Sprung, which

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one you got for next year?

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Speaker 2: I think you still gotta go with Garland just because

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he's a two way player, and that's always been the

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knock on Sprong. The Canucks know it's a bit of

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a gamble with him. They know that he can produce,

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but the question is can strung outplay The sort of

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liability is away from the puck Garland, that's never been

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a question. Listen, his contract might be a bit higher

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than you would expect, then you would want for a

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guy that really is a play and plays the third liner.

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But he's a guy that keeps producing in the end,

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mostly on the second power play unit. Here the second

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power play unit doesn't play a ton, and yet he

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keeps producing twenty goals from a guy I think he

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had two or three goals going Christmas. The way that

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line took off him and Dakota Joshua playing with the

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first Teddy Blueger or first pu Suitor and then Teddy

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Blueger just took off and became their best line for

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a many nights, especially as Peterson started to struggle. And

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he's become a player that really stirs the drink, really

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dragged every coach that's haad Am or Vancouver talks about

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how he drags them into the fight. Just a fantastic

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little player and a guy that I think you have

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every reason to think going to be once again, you know,

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punching away. It's towards fifty points. He's a consistent player.

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If the coach trusts him, he's gonna he is going

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to keep playing strong. As a bigger question mark in

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my mind.

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Speaker 4: Well, slide a little bit further down the depth chart

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for two more forwards, Dakota Joshua Nils Hoglander, both of

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them a few points fewer the points pace for the

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two of them, both kind of hovering around forty Hoglander

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of course, significantly younger than Dakota Joshua. Yeah, neither one

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of them play as many minutes. What do you think

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of these two fellows. Joshua throws a ton of hits,

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so I love yeah for that.

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Speaker 2: Joshu was a really interesting player. Obviously won himself a

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big rays this summer because it was played eighteen goals.

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He would have hit twenty, but he had a hand injury,

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gotten a fight in Chicago, and I guess it was

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late February and missed it about a month, and I

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you know, had some moments in the playoffs, struggle a

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bit in the playoffs, but in the end eight goals

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thirteen and thirteen or sorry, eight points in thirteen games.

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I mean like that. He was played as a third liner.

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They got through line production out of him. He's an

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interesting X fact player because of the way he plays.

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He's a very smart player. The Canucks originally signed him

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because they saw a guy who'd be able to help

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with penalty killing, and we're hopeful he had some could

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grow some of his offensive game and he's become this

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two way player and like you said, a four checking force.

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He's a very unique four checker. Playing with Garland a

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bit of a we always talk about the old movie

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Twins with the two of them. But Joshua is a

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guy that you wonder if he might play a role

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in getting in the mix on the Miller line. Like,

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he's a guy that you wonder he plays that sort

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of four checking rambunctious style, smart plays all over the

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ice that Miller and Bester already have. I think there's

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an instinct that maybe Danton heinen Prole will start there,

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but again, it'll be interesting to see how his season

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shakes out. I think he's got a really interesting season

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in front of him. Is obviously a great story or

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the kind of depth player, depth forward the Canucks have

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struggled to draft over the last ten to fifteen years.

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But a lot of what he does is why he

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is not a surprise, why he's successful. He's a guy

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that plays is comfortable and tight. When the Cannucks drafted

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of Judd Brackett, who is the Canucks amateur scouting director

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at the time now Strets scouting director in Minnesota, he said,

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this guy's got the best hands in the draft. I

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think and we can see why. He's a guy that

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can finish in tight He is an aggressive for checker.

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He recognizes that to be successful as a small player,

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he's a guy that has to get on the other

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team's nerves and he's very good at that. And listen again,

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a player doesn't play a ton on the power play.

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He's on the second unit at best and still score

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twenty four goals. Now, a lot of that because he

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was playing with best or sorry with Peterson for a

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lot of the season. That did help him a lot,

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but you hit the playoffs. One goal in eleven games

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in the playoffs, he was a healthy scratch a couple

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of times. A player that the Canucks I think we're

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hoping for more from in the playoffs and he really struggled.

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So some question marks going to the season. Certainly value

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there if you're looking to take a long shot, pick

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a guy that will get chances. That does bury his chances.

477
00:23:09,599 --> 00:23:12,039
But in terms of rule things are certainly I think

478
00:23:12,079 --> 00:23:16,119
evolving there, and in some question marks around what role

479
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,759
he's going to play for the Canucks this season.

480
00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:21,839
Speaker 3: Fantastic on the forward, let's move over to the defense now,

481
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,480
and of course we're going to start with Quinn Hughes.

482
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,279
Was a banner year for Hughes. Ninety two points in

483
00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:30,720
eighty two games, thirty eight on the power play. It

484
00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:33,240
was glorious. We run a league here, a fantasy hockey

485
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,000
life called the Tidy the Tier Dynasty. He was the

486
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,440
fifteenth best player in that setup. He was awesome, definitely

487
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,839
showing throwing more hits than he had in that first

488
00:23:43,079 --> 00:23:45,319
season where he was down to just seven. I think

489
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,200
the obvious question here, Patrick is was this the outlier

490
00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:50,640
season or can he be over a point per game,

491
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,839
over a point per game again next season? What do

492
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,160
you think?

493
00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:55,759
Speaker 2: I think this is the player he is going to

494
00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:58,160
be for a long time. He's only twenty four turns

495
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,240
twenty five in October. He came in on a mission

496
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,519
this season to prove that he was a dominant not

497
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:11,400
just a good defenseman, but a dominant defenseman. And people

498
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,920
outside the market I said, Ken Hughes defan Ken Houston

499
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,440
and he we would watch him and he never Here's

500
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,279
the thing, he never had to defend because he always

501
00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:22,079
had the puck on his stick, and he in the

502
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,000
end did prove himself. Obviously has to play defense, but

503
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,200
his biggest thing is positioning, the ability to not disrupt

504
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,200
the other team's possessions, take the puck off off them

505
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,599
and move it up the ice. Phil Bronnick proved to

506
00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:35,400
be a great partner for him in this regard. He

507
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,160
was really good at putting the puck on his stick.

508
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,519
That's the biggest thing is what is the other guy doing?

509
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,799
And they found a great partner from He'll be interested

510
00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:45,519
see what happens Ronick this season, because there's some talk

511
00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:47,759
they might try to put him on a separate pair,

512
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,240
but that pairing was so dominant and so good for

513
00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:54,480
them for so much of the season it was it's

514
00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:56,200
gonna be hard for them not to go back to it.

515
00:24:56,599 --> 00:25:00,720
Hughes is a fantastic player. The biggest Obviously we saw

516
00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:03,920
the jumping points, but really pay attention to the jumping goals.

517
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,440
This is a guy who made a conscious effort to

518
00:25:06,519 --> 00:25:09,680
shoot more, not just to create rebounds, but to shoot

519
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,319
to score and he got results there. And this is

520
00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:15,559
so this is a player that you're gonna want to

521
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:18,160
He should be going high in every draft that there's

522
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,680
no mistake that this is a guy that wants to

523
00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:24,039
keep pressing to keep showing that he is a superstar

524
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,319
in this league. And again, like so many of the

525
00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:30,599
players I've already mentioned, there's the right right mindset there,

526
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,920
there's the right head on his shoulders to think that

527
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,759
he's going to keep doing this for years.

528
00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 4: Philip Heronik. After Ronik's trade from the Red Wings, I

529
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,319
worried a lot he wouldn't get the same free reign

530
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,680
he got in Detroit and his production would fall off,

531
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,240
and Ronick went out quickly for the year. After arriving

532
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,640
in Vancouver his first season, but given a full season here,

533
00:25:50,759 --> 00:25:54,400
Heronic was very productive last year. Playing next to Quinn

534
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,880
Hughes turns out to be a very good thing for

535
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,319
a good player to do. And for a guy who

536
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,200
scored four eight points, it was startling to see him

537
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,400
deal with ten and fifteen game pointless streaks in the

538
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,400
middle of that. So the ladder, including reaching into the

539
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,559
playoff games when he didn't score it until the final

540
00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:14,160
two playoff games. Yea that they played. Then something happened

541
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,519
with this guy and do you see him producing more

542
00:26:16,599 --> 00:26:19,279
like that early season success? Next year?

543
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: He was dealing with an elbow injury. He never wanted

544
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,559
to talk about it. We all mentioned it. I think

545
00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:25,559
everybody reported him at some we were just like, guys,

546
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,079
everyone has to understand he's wearing this huge like every

547
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,000
game he get an incredible amount of to He had

548
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,039
this incredible tape job on his right elbow, and that

549
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,200
was no mistake that he wasn't able to shoot. He

550
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:39,519
stopped shooting and by the end of the playoffs he

551
00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:41,279
was shooting again, and that a goal he scored in

552
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:45,319
Game seven was a statement goal. Obviously the team didn't

553
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,200
go where they wanted to go, but a good finish

554
00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:51,720
for him on the season. You're absolutely right, Like coming

555
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,279
in you're like, oh, is he really able to produce

556
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:55,519
because he's knotting on pp one. That's that had been

557
00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:58,640
a big thing for him in Detroit, and he he

558
00:26:58,839 --> 00:27:02,200
was occasionally on as a secondary kind of shooter on

559
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,920
the wing or whatever. But at the end of the day,

560
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:07,240
two defenseman power play setups are so rare, and rightly

561
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,359
it is because they don't really produce the way a

562
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,359
four and one goes. He still found a way to produce.

563
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,720
You Obviously, playing with Quinn Hughes is a massive part

564
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:19,480
of the story. He was a very good player for Hughes.

565
00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:22,839
Really they partneredly made things happen. Yeah, I think he'll

566
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,319
produce the same right now. You notice the scoring slumps

567
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,920
they happened certainly the late season one was about the

568
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,799
elbow problem. Every reason to think this guy's can be fine, obviously,

569
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:35,519
I think that is a certain way. I think part

570
00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:37,680
of that is why they're thinking about splitting them up,

571
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,680
because they certainly two smaller defensemen and physical stature. They're

572
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,119
both great skaters. They aren't open to getting overwhelmed with hits,

573
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,839
but teams do definitely go after them. There was no

574
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:55,160
doubt that Hughes was that. Nashville went hard, especially went

575
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,960
hard after Hughes with their big set of forwards. He

576
00:27:58,039 --> 00:28:00,839
still kept producing. He rose above it. I think struggle

577
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,960
to a degree with that, and so it's gonna be

578
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,880
interesting to see how that shakes out. If he's playing

579
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,480
on a second pair, he's not going to get as

580
00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:11,319
much primetime ice time. But that said, the Canducts still

581
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:13,440
have two great top end lines in the Miller line

582
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,440
on the Pederson line, So you know, if you're getting

583
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,519
to play with one of those guys, you know you're

584
00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:20,519
getting your zone starts with those guys. You're still going

585
00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:24,240
to get a lot of opportunity. Just to go back

586
00:28:24,519 --> 00:28:26,119
you mentioned earlier. I forgot to mention the Petterson. He

587
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,759
says his ice time is down a minute. But know

588
00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:30,640
those was too Rick talk Hat said, you know, going

589
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,240
into the season, he knew he didn't want to ride

590
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,799
those guys as hard. He obviously rode Quick Hughes quite hard.

591
00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:37,640
I think their instinct is to not because they know

592
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,880
how important you know where and tear can be on

593
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,799
a player and how challenging that can be once he

594
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:46,079
hit the playoffs. So trying to save yourself to some degree.

595
00:28:46,359 --> 00:28:48,440
So it's gonna be interesting to see how ice time

596
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,519
works out for not just Ronic, but Hughes, for Peterson,

597
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:55,640
for Miller, to see how all that factors together. But yeah,

598
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,960
Heronic is an interesting one. But I think I definitely

599
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,799
wanted to pay attention to because if he's playing with

600
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,240
Chris and Houses is a good player, but he's not

601
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,480
Quinn Hughes, and you're just going to not have as

602
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,720
many kinds of secondary assists there because you're not playing

603
00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:07,359
with Quinn Hughes.

604
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 4: And one more defenseman I'd like to talk about is

605
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,839
Tyler Myers. It's safe to say his role is a

606
00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:17,319
little more on the defensive side. His ship zone starts

607
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:20,200
are amazing. Almost never does he get put in when

608
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,759
the Canucks are starting in the offensive zone. He is

609
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:26,240
a let's start him in the defensive zone. Stuff that

610
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:29,720
isn't good for scoring, but it's very nice for block shots.

611
00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:33,480
And he also tended to throw a lot of hits. Importantly,

612
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:36,240
reports have it that he will continue to be six

613
00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:38,839
' eight in the coming year. That's I'm not going

614
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,720
to reveal my source, but I've got that on good authority.

615
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:46,000
Is Tyler Myers expected to not only have the same

616
00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:48,160
height but a similar role in the coming year With

617
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:51,359
maybe he's got a nice contract. Actually it's declining, but

618
00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:53,279
it's appropriate for him. What do you expect him from?

619
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:54,359
Tyler Myers a guy.

620
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: Listen, he had his best season as a Canuck this year.

621
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,119
It's wild to say his last year of this five

622
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,440
year deal that that Jim Benning signed him to in

623
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,039
twenty nineteen twenty before the Canucks signed him in the

624
00:30:05,079 --> 00:30:07,400
summer twenty nineteen, I've written a story of basically, be

625
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,160
careful with Tyler Myers. He's not the player that people

626
00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:15,000
think he is. He's not this two way dominant force.

627
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:17,480
He came in in such a force as a rookie

628
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:21,640
in twenty nine to ten and was a fantastic player,

629
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:25,400
scoring career high eleven goals for Buffalo. The flaws in

630
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,960
his game remained, which is that he struggles at times

631
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,400
with You'd think a guy with that much reach would

632
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,680
be dominant. It's actually Carson Sussi that's dominant to reach.

633
00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:35,240
Tyler Myers has actually struggled with gap control and things

634
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:39,000
like that over the years in zone defending. But playing

635
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:42,000
for Adam Foot, who has been a remarkable success as

636
00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:43,400
a coach, a guy who didn't have a ton of

637
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,160
coaching success before he arrived in Vancouver a year and

638
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,599
a half ago, but who's learned a lot under him

639
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,079
under Cirgate Gonshar, who's a brilliant he's the canucksy. They

640
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:55,440
call him the defensive development coach because he's not always

641
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,519
with the team. He splits his time between home and

642
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:00,680
Texas and here in Vancouver, but as always in contact

643
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,440
with the team. Myers really found a really nice role.

644
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,440
The system the Canucks play is somewhat complicated. It requires

645
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,240
a lot of work off the puck and a lot

646
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,440
of when the puckets here do this and very much

647
00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:17,319
every situation has a sort of prescribed sequence. The rest

648
00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:19,440
of the team is supposed to be falling. It demands

649
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,359
a lot, but Meyers said, every time he'd have the puck,

650
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,319
he said, in many ways it's more complicated. It was

651
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:25,119
easier because he'd look up and everyone was where they're

652
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:27,039
supposed to be. He didn't have to think when myer's

653
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:29,559
are the things he gets into trouble, And so he

654
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:32,880
had this season. He just had primary defensive minded guy

655
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,119
whose job was mostly to play shut down day, and

656
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,440
yet I had the most productive season is of his

657
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,160
time in Vancouver, twenty nine points five goals. Found a

658
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,880
way back to where I think the Canucks realistically, where

659
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,119
he needs to be in his mid thirties. He's thirty four,

660
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,839
like he's in the tail end of his career now,

661
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:50,960
and it's all about what he's able to do, how

662
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,440
he's able to manage realistically the physical decline that you

663
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,000
go through at that age playing this game, to where

664
00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:00,319
he's always been a pretty durable player, which to credit

665
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,559
especially says he does block a lot of shots, does

666
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:05,559
throw a lot of hits. Yeah, he's a guy that

667
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,799
he's an interesting one. I think he's zero power play time, right,

668
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,799
All that production is at five on five, but a

669
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,960
player that has always played with an aggressive instinct, and

670
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,519
the five goals after two back to back seasons where

671
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:20,680
he'd scored just one goal. The five goals was a

672
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,319
statement about a guy that was feeling confident again about

673
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:26,880
jumping up in the play, and certainly the Canucks encouragement

674
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,359
of defenseman to do so. An interesting guy. Not someone

675
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,359
I would break the bank for or someone I would

676
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:34,319
draft anywhere, but late as a sort of a throw

677
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:36,920
a dart. Maybe you get some luck here on a player,

678
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,880
but certainly a guy that's still got a lot.

679
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:39,319
Speaker 4: Left in him.

680
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: I think, all right, time to talk about the goalies,

681
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:47,240
and oh boy, the Canucks. Well there's some news I hear.

682
00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:51,000
The Canucks were ranked six and expected goals against per sixty,

683
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:54,039
but conceded only the fourth ranked actual goals. Both great

684
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,400
team defense and goals save above expected helped drive that

685
00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:01,400
the performance of saving more goals was almost entirely from

686
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,119
Thatcher Demko twenty five point eight three goals save above

687
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,559
expected at even strength. Incredible. Casey the Smith who's now

688
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:10,000
gone had point four to eight goals save above expected

689
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,599
and she Loves was just about average, though she Loves

690
00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:17,319
had his fantastic moments for sure. The news out of camp,

691
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,160
as your reaction alludes to, is that Demco might not

692
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,839
be ready to start this season. There are that's of

693
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,880
course sent everyone into a frenzy thinking about what's going

694
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,960
to happen, what should we do?

695
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: So?

696
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,839
Speaker 3: What do you think is the latest? Patrick? What is

697
00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:32,279
the latest on Demco? How many starts do you think

698
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,160
each goalie is going to get? Is it going to

699
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,839
be the silvs show for most or half the season?

700
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,359
Or what do we expect out of Vancouver?

701
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: Victor? This is one of those ones where it was good.

702
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:41,799
I didn't get back to as fast as I did

703
00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:44,319
and we had to delay recording this. Victor came to

704
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,119
me ages ago saying when do you think you can

705
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,720
come on again? And I was like, well, they took

706
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:49,839
for ever to get back to him, and by the

707
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,720
time I got back to him, this weekend was the

708
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:54,279
one that made sense and so we got the Denco

709
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,720
news live hot out of the can here. Yeah thatcher

710
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:02,839
Demco obviously got hurting the playoffs was some sort of

711
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,400
knee issue has been the best. Guess, We're not quite sure,

712
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,199
but they've never really said. But it was some sort

713
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:12,800
of knee issue. Was working his way back, was almost

714
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,119
ready to go ahead of Game seven against the Oilers.

715
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,159
I think he was pushing to play Caducks in the

716
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,039
en played the cautious one, stuck with she Loves, who

717
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:24,800
had a great playoffs. Not a perfect goalie. She Loves

718
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,360
is not a perfect goalie, but he didn't enough to

719
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,840
give his chance give his team a chance to win

720
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,800
every night. Taking over the starter's net from Casey to Smith,

721
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,559
who also got hurt during the playoffs. It was a

722
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:37,320
wild run in the net, but it was such a

723
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,440
reminder of how important having a good goalie coach, good

724
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,000
goalie system is. Ian Clark, who actually the other news

725
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:45,880
this week, is stepping away as the team's serve director

726
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,079
of goaltending, now stepping back into more of a development

727
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:50,559
role and be a book more of a scout. Marco Cherenius,

728
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:52,760
who has a great reputation from Finland and used to

729
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,079
coach in the KHL, is taking over. So it should

730
00:34:56,119 --> 00:34:58,559
be all right, But a statement about how strong their

731
00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:00,599
goalies have been is very much about how strong of

732
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:05,159
a coach Ian Clark has been, and so Demco had

733
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:06,920
this knee injury. It was almost ready to come back,

734
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:10,480
didn't come back, and then we started hearing whispers, Oh,

735
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:13,639
something happened, and something happened. We all seem to understand

736
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:16,079
that he had some kind of procedure. We don't know

737
00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:18,599
what it was. They haven't talked about it, but the

738
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:22,440
rehab has been slow and at this point everyone it's

739
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,920
certainly reported by the athletic and I've heard now similarly

740
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:29,119
that he's going to miss certainly the start of training camp.

741
00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:30,639
We'll be ready to go for it started training camp.

742
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,519
I think I's just still feeling confident that he'll be

743
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:36,440
ready to go for the regular season, but we'll see.

744
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,320
It all means that Demco there's gonna be question marks.

745
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,159
He doesn't like being considered an injury prone, but of

746
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:45,440
the unfortunate truth is that he has dealt with an

747
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,920
injury just about every season he's been in Vancouver. It's

748
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,000
certainly the last three years since he's been the number one,

749
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:55,760
the primary starter, and last year in twenty two twenty three,

750
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,280
dealt with a pretty serious injury with his hip, missed

751
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,199
a couple of months, came back, hadn't been himself before

752
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:05,039
that but came back and was great to close out

753
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:08,519
the season. Last year, I was really playing very well

754
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:12,920
and then got hurt and took him a long time

755
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,280
to get back. Questions about whether he rushed back or not,

756
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,639
but certainly the Canucks insists he was healthy and ready

757
00:36:18,679 --> 00:36:21,840
to go for the playoffs, even though obviously the timeline

758
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,039
was tight and then he got hurt right away. A

759
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:28,079
player that when he's healthy is one of the best

760
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:30,320
goalies in the league. As victory you highlighted with those

761
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,039
numbers are not an accident. Some of it, obviously is

762
00:36:33,039 --> 00:36:35,320
the improved defensive play in front of him, but most

763
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,239
of it's just about his pure talent. And there are

764
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,679
questions about him. And he's twenty eight turning twenty nine

765
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,159
in December. He plays a demanding position, he has played

766
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,320
harder than most. There are some question marks, but if

767
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,840
he's on. That said, the Canucks are poking around. I

768
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,719
realistically they need bodies for training camp. There's talk that

769
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,159
they're seeing if they can convince somebody to take a PTO.

770
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:02,199
They were this week with Kevin Lankanan, who's out there

771
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:06,719
who I think has shown is good enough and deserves

772
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,519
a full time job. But for whatever reason is kicking

773
00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:12,400
around out there. I don't think the Canucks will end

774
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,119
up signing anyone beyond a PTO because at the end

775
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:18,199
of the day, if they do need to pick a

776
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:20,039
goalie up to start the season, there's a lot of

777
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:21,719
I'm sure you guys are talk about this already, but

778
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,559
if you talked with the Detroit Red Wings, they have

779
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:26,519
four NHL goalies on their roster. They're gonna have to

780
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:29,840
waive someone Eric Comery in Winnipeg. There are guys out

781
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,320
there that are not going to start the season necessarily.

782
00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:34,960
Look at San Jose now it sounds like they're probably

783
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,719
gonna go three goalies what I've heard this year, But again,

784
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,760
another team that's going to have an extra body that

785
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,599
they may have to move out. So if the Canucks

786
00:37:41,639 --> 00:37:44,360
need to find someone to pinch shit to start the season,

787
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,920
a goalie to pinch it to start the season, it's

788
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,920
a safe bet that they're gonna go the waivers route.

789
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:51,880
I would be shocked if they signed anybody else, But

790
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,119
in the short term, you could see someone coming in

791
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:59,840
training camp to help with the load. Now, Sheilaws will

792
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,079
be the guy to start with. They also signed Yuri

793
00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:05,440
Paterra from Vegas, who generally you know, has been a

794
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:07,480
number was number three in Vegas. He's gonna be number

795
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,679
three here. It'll be interesting to see how that shakes out,

796
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:14,159
whether they start with Shilovs and Petera, or whether they try,

797
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:15,760
like I said, try to find someone else to bring

798
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,239
in it. In the short term. Anyway, it's a big

799
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,800
question mark and there's a storyline that's not gonna go

800
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,400
away anytime soon, that's for sure.

801
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,199
Speaker 4: This has been some great insight on the Van Kouber Canucks. Patrick,

802
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,000
Why don't you let people know how they can follow

803
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:30,400
your work.

804
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: I'm still in that thing called X at Rising Action. No,

805
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,360
I don't use it much anymore because I'm mostly annoyed

806
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,639
at the state of play there. But you can always

807
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:40,000
find my work at the Province dot com, which is

808
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,719
our main website, and obviously or Vancouver Sun dot com.

809
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,719
We have two papers, one company, if that makes any sense.

810
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,320
I won't bore you with the details of Canadian media,

811
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,320
but yeah, Province dot com. I'm also I've got stuff

812
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,519
on Instagram at pattyg on the road. I tend to

813
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:55,760
do stuff just fine, behind the scenes things and what

814
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,760
I can find. But that's where I'm at. I'm actually

815
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,360
also on blue Sky. So if you go at Rising

816
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,000
Action dot, Best Guy dot Social, think I got it. Anyway,

817
00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:04,920
I'm in there. Find me there. I'm still doing a

818
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,320
bit of that and I'm always happy to answer emails

819
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,440
which are on my stories if you want my stories here.

820
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:14,440
Always nice. Great to be here, guys, Thanks for having

821
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,400
me again, Thanks for coming on.

822
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:29,599
Speaker 4: Hi will be that's good. Fired pets, Oh my goodness,

823
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:37,119
long with a cat we gram Now it's your Wingley

824
00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:41,920
goalie talk, but Kat Silverman Kat's instincts.

825
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,199
Speaker 3: Ten once again for Cat's instincts with Kat Silverman Ingold

826
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,239
mag talking Canucks goalies. And so we're gonna start, of

827
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,280
course with Archer's she loves S. I l o v s.

828
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,960
We learned it with she loves this year when he

829
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,559
played in the NHL twenty nineteen six round pick six

830
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:57,840
foot four, two hundred and fifteen pounds, pretty good numbers

831
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,760
in the HL again last season, like the on previous,

832
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:04,079
he also had fourteen NHL games with sort of mixed results.

833
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:07,280
I guess you could say his goal save above expected

834
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,760
in the NHL was neutral, which is better than Spencer

835
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:16,320
Martin can say. And the Colindilia what was similar as well,

836
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,760
And of course Tim Coo is a bit better looking

837
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,480
at his hockey prospecting, he's been in that thirties to

838
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:26,159
twenty percent range and not a lot of the guys

839
00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:29,360
that are equivalent to him are bust or replacement level.

840
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,440
But there is a Steve Shields comp in here. Maybe

841
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,920
there's some hope he was a decent goalie. Kat what

842
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,280
are anythings tell us about She.

843
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,559
Speaker 1: Loves she loves his absolute liability and I mean then

844
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:43,679
the best way possible. He is a goaltender that is

845
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,880
so much fun to watch as long as he is

846
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,519
having a good game and he is on your team,

847
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,199
and then if he is not having a good game,

848
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,159
he is a lot of fun to watch for the

849
00:40:58,199 --> 00:41:01,239
other team. He never goes quiet, I know. I saw

850
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,960
when I was looking up some highlights for him, just

851
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,639
to see how he did this last year. The first

852
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:10,400
video clip I found was someone had posted the Australian

853
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,199
breakdancer from the Olympics and said it's Arthur she lost

854
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:19,719
and I was like, yeah, that track said he's got

855
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,920
that throw everything but the kitchen sink at Adam's style,

856
00:41:23,039 --> 00:41:27,199
which we I always get nervous seeing that in Vancouver,

857
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,000
because that's a team that, even though they've made some

858
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:33,559
big strides, I still get nervous about them as a

859
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:39,079
team from a structured perspective. But even though he loves

860
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:42,280
to throw a technique out the window, he seems very

861
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,559
self aware, and so even when he's just taking his

862
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:49,719
technique and really tossing it all over the place, you

863
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,840
see him maintain a good presence in terms of knowing

864
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,719
where he is on the ice. He's really good at

865
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,599
reading his teammates, really good at communicating with his teammates.

866
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,400
I think he's pretty good at reading plays. Sometimes it's

867
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,920
hard to tell because he loves to do so many

868
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,840
spicy things, but I don't know he's To me, he's

869
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,599
almost like a tweiner where I don't necessarily consider him

870
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:20,960
a prospect anymore, which is crazy because he's still pretty young.

871
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,119
To me, it feels like he's been in the league forever,

872
00:42:24,639 --> 00:42:28,679
and he is. I think he's twenty three now, so

873
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,800
that's crazy to me. I truly thought that I was

874
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,079
going to look up his date of birth and he

875
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:36,519
was going to be twenty seven right now, but he's not.

876
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,280
So that makes me excited to see just so much

877
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,159
fun he's going to have in the NHL, because I

878
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:48,840
do think that the Vancouver Connects need goaltenders who don't

879
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,440
take themselves too seriously, which I think was sometimes the

880
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:56,000
problem with some of their other prospects in the past,

881
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,719
like Mikidi Pietro, who I adored as a goal and

882
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,840
I think probably didn't have the shake it off vibes

883
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,280
to hack it in Vancouver. So I think she loves

884
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,559
as a goaltender who can.

885
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 3: Yep, and he should get a fair number of NHL

886
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,079
games this season because they basically have him and Demco

887
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,480
And unfortunately, I don't think we're saying anything that isn't

888
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,559
already known, but Demco has an injury history, so that

889
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,360
is why we saw she loves last year and why

890
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:30,000
the fortunes of the Cannucks and the playoffs shifted. But yeah,

891
00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:32,400
it should be fun. I'm excited to see that as well.

892
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:36,199
And let's move now to a couple of the other guys.

893
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,440
So Ty Young is a twenty twenty two fifth round

894
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,719
pick by Vancouver six three hundred and eighty three pounds.

895
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,119
He was nineteen all this season, so still a very

896
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:48,079
young goalie prospect. He's a oh September eleventh birthday. It's

897
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:50,960
super young for this draft cycle. Bridge George was much

898
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,599
better this season, as we all saw. And last season

899
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:56,440
you talked about how you were sure he'd get drafted.

900
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,760
But wait, you talked about how you were sure he'd

901
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,239
get drafted, but he was very structured even on a

902
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,679
bad team. He wanted to see I think I meant

903
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,400
to say you weren't sure he'd get drafted, but that

904
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,920
he was very structured on a bad team, and wanted

905
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,199
to see him be a little bit more creative when

906
00:44:11,199 --> 00:44:13,000
he needed to be, and wanted to see him on

907
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,920
a stronger team. And we got all of that, at

908
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,880
least most of that anyways, So that's good. And looking

909
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,320
at some of his comps pretty low in the teens,

910
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,440
Dan Clutier is probably his best comp as a replacement starter. So, Kat,

911
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:26,039
what can you tell us about Ty Young?

912
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: He's an interesting one when it comes to his comps,

913
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,920
just because when I remember when we were talking about

914
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,679
whether or not I thought he'd get drafted, one of

915
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,719
the biggest question marks was because he's so young. He's

916
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,000
I believed the cud all for the draft class is

917
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:49,360
like a week after his birthday, so four days there

918
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,440
we go, oh yeah, because Dawson Matthews is right on

919
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,880
the other side of bed. So it's it's interesting seeing

920
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,480
that he did end up getting drafted. Vancouver decided to

921
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,679
take a flyer knowing that he still had ae eligibility

922
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,239
left in the Major Juniors, which I think was a

923
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,679
smart move on their part. It's going to be fun

924
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,320
to see now that he's played on a better team.

925
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,119
Looks like his confidence got better, his technique looked like

926
00:45:16,159 --> 00:45:18,559
it stayed really good because he was a goaltender who

927
00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:21,559
played There were some games that my heart almost ached

928
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,800
watching him play because he was holding his technique so

929
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,119
strong and it was like someone trying to hold onto

930
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:31,440
a flagpole in the middle of a tornado, and just

931
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:34,079
he was like, I will keep this technique even if

932
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:38,360
my team loses eight to four, and that is what

933
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:43,519
would happen sometimes. So I'm excited to see now that

934
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:46,519
we know that he got the technique and that he's

935
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,360
got the confidence, and that he's gotten some good reps

936
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,079
behind a much better defense. I want to see what

937
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:57,119
he can do to take his game and move it

938
00:45:57,199 --> 00:45:59,559
forward a little bit. I want to see a little

939
00:45:59,559 --> 00:46:02,360
bit more feed from his game. I want to see

940
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:06,519
as he continues to aid, if he gets a little

941
00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:08,920
bit stronger. They don't really have too many complaints about

942
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,559
his game. If he had a best case scenario last year,

943
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,000
better team, he looked good. I think he's still a

944
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:19,440
ways out because he is. He just turned. I think

945
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,960
he just turned twenty a little while ago.

946
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:25,119
Speaker 3: He turned and he turns.

947
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so he's he's young. Yeah, he's got so

948
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:34,119
much time before they really need to evaluate where he

949
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:36,920
falls in their system. And I think he already looks

950
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,280
pretty good, which is nice because Vancouver has a tendency

951
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,800
to go through goaltenders unfortunately, so I think having a

952
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,599
couple really strong bets in their system is something they need.

953
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 3: Hey man, that's a good one. Good one to keep

954
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,239
in mind. And I was just thinking the whole time

955
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,159
you were talking about holding onto his technique, I was

956
00:46:55,159 --> 00:46:57,440
thinking about that scene from Game of Thrones with Hodor.

957
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:01,119
Speaker 1: That's exactly what he was. He was a seventeen year

958
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:04,599
old nohodor on a t a major juniors team that

959
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:07,360
could not play defense to save their lives.

960
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,599
Speaker 3: I love it. Okay, we're gonna do one more, and

961
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,440
this is an interesting one. I think so it's Aku.

962
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:17,320
He is a twenty twenty one fifth round pick by Vancouver,

963
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,760
six foot four, two hundred and one pounds, and he last

964
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,880
year you talked about how you wanted to see what

965
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:26,199
another year of North American coaching could do for him

966
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:30,360
after he basically had just moved from the U twenty

967
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,719
finish HIFK team to Harvard, and he didn't play a

968
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,800
whole lot. I think there were some injuries. This season.

969
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,360
He played seventeen games, had a nine ten save percentage

970
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,880
two point ninety five GAA. You also mentioned last year

971
00:47:44,039 --> 00:47:45,960
sometimes he would fall behind the play, but was very

972
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,280
explosive in general with good movements. So overall his equivalency

973
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,519
has been trending down. That might be partially due to

974
00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:55,119
a games played issue, and he doesn't have a whole

975
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:57,360
lot of great comps. What can your instincts tell us

976
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:58,480
about cos Kan Vuo?

977
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: I caught a couple of highlight He looked like he

978
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:08,760
was still having some trouble just keeping up with the play,

979
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,119
and some of that might be just because he's not

980
00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:15,400
getting a kind of consistent game reps. And that's the

981
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,800
area of his game that I wanted to see improve

982
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,320
the most, which really comes with getting just consistent reps.

983
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,199
I think that's a little unfortunate that he wasn't put

984
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,119
in a position where he could really get in those

985
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:32,440
reps so that he could even if he ends up

986
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:35,320
not being a goaltender who has really great reads, at

987
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,000
the very least we would be able to tell that.

988
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:40,519
And unfortunately it made it hard for us to really

989
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:42,519
get that gauge. So I think we're still going to

990
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:46,480
holding pattern with him, unfortunately, which Vancouver can afford to be.

991
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,159
He is, I think, at the bottom of their prospect

992
00:48:49,199 --> 00:48:51,880
pull at the moment. Not a bad thing per se,

993
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,239
just he is the one who is the farthest away

994
00:48:54,280 --> 00:49:01,079
from being nhlready at the moment, and I think we

995
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:03,719
need to see if he can get regular starts for

996
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:04,559
Harvard this year.

997
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,559
Speaker 3: Awesome, Thanks so much for giving your instincts on the

998
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:08,880
Vancouver Canucks Cut.

999
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:27,079
Speaker 5: Dig Good Dynasty, dig Man's Edition, Victor, this system is

1000
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:28,920
relatively low in your rankings.

1001
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 4: I believe you had him at twenty sixth at one point. Nonetheless,

1002
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,719
we need to start out with your no brainer. Who

1003
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,440
is it?

1004
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 3: It's the one that gives us an opportunity to play

1005
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,000
that fantastic song from our tidy Admiral. That's Johnny Lkaramachi

1006
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:47,199
twenty twenty two, fifteenth overall pick by the Canucks, five

1007
00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:49,480
eleven hundred and seventy two pound right shot right wing.

1008
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:54,760
July twenty fourth, birthday just turned twenty as we're recording this,

1009
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,159
so really young for his draft cycle. All along, he

1010
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,679
had thirty one points and forty six games for a

1011
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,280
rebro hk in the SHL, nineteen goals in those thirty

1012
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,639
one games, and he was the SHL Rookie of the Year.

1013
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,880
Was great for Sweden at the U twenty World Junior

1014
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,320
Championships as well, ten points in seven games, most goals,

1015
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,480
and he got the MVP, which I think was pretty controversial.

1016
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:19,679
Quite frankly, I think there might have been better options,

1017
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:23,000
but he did have a great tournament. They lost the silver.

1018
00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:25,480
They lost in the gold medal game to USA, so

1019
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,119
they got the silver medal, but it was a fantastic

1020
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:31,400
tournament and fast hated fantastic season for him, So really

1021
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,400
great job for him. And looking at his tracking data

1022
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,360
from that World Juniors, his offense was seventy six percentile,

1023
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,880
his expected goals were actually just a little bit above average,

1024
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,880
and his respected primary assists not that high. His transition

1025
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,719
game was also forty fifth percentile, in his defense twenty

1026
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,440
fourth percentile, So this is part of what I was

1027
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,679
talking about in terms of maybe better options. The results

1028
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,079
be for themselves with seven goals, but some of the

1029
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:01,559
other off puck play was a little bit questionable. The

1030
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:04,840
game scored primary point involvement, though, was very good for him.

1031
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,719
It's really interesting though, looking at some of the other

1032
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,960
players who were doing really well at that tournament, there

1033
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,039
were some other pretty interesting options that had a little

1034
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:21,639
bit better the results than he did. In particular, looking

1035
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:26,239
at obviously Celebrini, Matthew Wood, Will Smith, Ryan Leonard all

1036
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,079
over more, all these guys, Frank Nazzar, even guys like

1037
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:34,440
Duma had more underlying expected primary goals and assists than

1038
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,079
Lakara Mackie. He was pretty average actually, in terms of

1039
00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:41,519
the tracking data that Mitch Brown had, he was pretty

1040
00:51:41,519 --> 00:51:45,159
similar to a lot of sort of replacement level average players.

1041
00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:47,719
So I found that very interesting when I was looking

1042
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,880
that up, because I watching the games didn't feel like

1043
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,440
he was the MVP, But that's what happened. Looking at

1044
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,320
the FHL player card for Lacara Maki based on his

1045
00:51:57,519 --> 00:52:01,440
SAHL games, he had some pretty great numbers. His goals

1046
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,800
were ninetieth percentile for the league, his assists were only fiftieth.

1047
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,079
His shots on goal were pretty high at eighth percentile,

1048
00:52:08,119 --> 00:52:09,679
but the hits and blocks were quite a bit lower.

1049
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,480
So overall, his bash looks like it's going to be

1050
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:15,519
closer to average with some pretty decent number of shots.

1051
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:18,239
But let's hear a little bit more about a Karamaki

1052
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,039
as a player from our FHL scout.

1053
00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 4: Our Man Grant has this to say about Jonathan Lkaramaki

1054
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,559
skating excellent acceleration and congregates separation from defenders with the

1055
00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:34,480
first few strides and above average agility. His top end

1056
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:37,400
speed won't blown anyone away, but he can move. He

1057
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,440
can sometimes forget to move his feet and can become

1058
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:44,960
static in both the offensive and defensive zones. Passing and

1059
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,000
handling excellent passing and handling in tight drives play. Likes

1060
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,119
to carry the puck across the blue line rather than

1061
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:54,760
dump and chase. He's very adept at gaining the line

1062
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,079
in the offensive zone. His ability to take a pass

1063
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,360
and borders on a leat, and his ability to find

1064
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,960
open teammates as well. Above average. He can sometimes force

1065
00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:07,639
passes in dangerous areas in his own end or down

1066
00:53:07,639 --> 00:53:11,960
low in the offensive zone. Shooting, Lakaramaki has a great

1067
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,679
snapshot is not afraid to shoot the puck from anywhere.

1068
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,000
He has a drag risshot in his arsenal which is

1069
00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:20,719
reminiscent of Connor Bedard. At times. His shot is NHL

1070
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,079
caliber IQ. Lakarimaki likes to handle the puck and has

1071
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:28,119
a very low panic threshold with it. He has great

1072
00:53:28,199 --> 00:53:30,960
vision to find holes in the defense to skate into

1073
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:34,679
or find an open teammate. He has very good anticipation

1074
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:37,960
as the puck seems to find him at times. He

1075
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,079
can be a threat to intercept defenders passes and strike

1076
00:53:41,639 --> 00:53:45,360
or checking. Not overly physical, and is more often on

1077
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,519
the perimeter. When without the puck, he gets knocked off

1078
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:51,159
the puck fairly easily and won't win his share of

1079
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:55,920
board battles. His anticipation in intercepting passes and blocking passing

1080
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:01,239
lanes are his strengths in for checking defense, Lakaramaki is

1081
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,960
unlikely to be a bottom six forward in the NHL

1082
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,119
based on his defensive play. He's fairly responsible in his

1083
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:09,960
own end, can stick handle out of trouble, but he's

1084
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,840
not gonna win a Selkie trophy. Early looks had him

1085
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,920
blowing the zone early, but later watches had him look

1086
00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:20,079
more responsible. So the best asset ability to find soft

1087
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:22,840
spots in the defense and his shot. Those are the

1088
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,840
two biggest strengths. The biggest concern he can get shut

1089
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,159
down offensively if his play is only on the perimeter

1090
00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:32,519
or he gets off the puck knocked off the buck easily.

1091
00:54:33,039 --> 00:54:36,199
The top tier outcome top six winger, first unit power

1092
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,480
play time tier two is the potential he is not

1093
00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:43,519
physical at all. That's because he's certainly capable of scoring

1094
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:46,039
thirty to forty goals in the NHL, putting up seventy

1095
00:54:46,039 --> 00:54:50,480
points at some point. Offensive skills are that good. The

1096
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:54,280
median outcome bottom six NHL winger who shows flashes of

1097
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,920
offense but struggles to become an NHL regular and is

1098
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,920
out of the NHL after one hundred and fifty to

1099
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,960
two hundred games. There are hundreds of fringe AHL NHL player,

1100
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:06,639
says Grant, who have offensive talent but are unable to

1101
00:55:06,639 --> 00:55:09,760
translate that to the NHL on a consistent basis, as

1102
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,039
they lack the defensive floor to make up for when

1103
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:15,400
they aren't producing. Lacaray Mackey could become that if he

1104
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,719
doesn't add strength and a two hundred foot NHL game,

1105
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,400
the stylistic comparable Lucas Raymond and the final talk about him,

1106
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,880
Lakara Macky should get every opportunity to succeed at the

1107
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,920
NHL level. He has a few holes in his game

1108
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:33,800
which will be exposed if he doesn't produce at that level.

1109
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,239
His ceiling thirty five to forty goals, seventy to seventy

1110
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,320
five points. Our friend Mason Black, the NHL Rinking put

1111
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,320
out the pole Jonathan Lacara Macky versus Brayden Yeager newly

1112
00:55:44,639 --> 00:55:48,119
of the Winnipeg Jets, and the results are in Jonathan

1113
00:55:48,159 --> 00:55:53,000
Lcaramack fifty eight, Brayden Yeager forty two victor. Is that

1114
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:53,880
how you rank him?

1115
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1116
00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:57,639
Speaker 3: I think so, And I think this poll did go

1117
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,400
out when he was still a pit Penguin prospect, but

1118
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,280
I'm not sure that the results would have changed too

1119
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,280
much if everyone knew that he was traded to Winnipeg.

1120
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,679
Jeger looks good still, but I think some of his

1121
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,519
development is a little bit stagnated in terms of his progression,

1122
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:15,920
but overall he still looks really good. But la Karamaki,

1123
00:56:16,679 --> 00:56:19,880
as Grant mentioned in there, he is a top six

1124
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,159
or bus kind of player, and even though there's some

1125
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,119
questions about his all around game, it seems to be

1126
00:56:24,199 --> 00:56:27,280
trending in the right direction to be good enough, and

1127
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,000
that means that he should be able to get a

1128
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:32,800
top six role and probably top power play. He is

1129
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,679
definitely someone who can score at a professional level. We

1130
00:56:35,679 --> 00:56:37,199
saw him score at the World Junior who saw him

1131
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:42,000
score in the SHL. He should be able to leverage

1132
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,599
that to a significant role with the Canucks, So I

1133
00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:48,519
would definitely take him. Although I still am excited about

1134
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,039
Jaeger and I think that hopefully it'll be a good

1135
00:56:51,039 --> 00:56:53,960
fit with him in Winnipeg. All the Winnipeg tends to

1136
00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:56,679
take their prospects along so slowly that there's a little

1137
00:56:56,679 --> 00:56:59,360
bit of concern there, But I think he should be okay.

1138
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,480
But I think it is pretty close. I think the

1139
00:57:01,519 --> 00:57:03,719
all around game for Yeger is better. I think there's

1140
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,719
a more realistic upside for him to be at least

1141
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,880
a middle six player because his two way game is

1142
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,000
a little bit better. But I would take the scoring

1143
00:57:13,079 --> 00:57:16,599
upside with Kenemaki. Looking at the p and HJA lead

1144
00:57:16,679 --> 00:57:18,920
between the two, it's actually going to Jaeger here with

1145
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:24,119
just above eighty, whereas Lakaramaki is closer to the seventy

1146
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:29,199
point range and the comps for Hieramaki a little bit

1147
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:32,679
more subdued. At Heler Segan is good, but Jack Roslovik

1148
00:57:32,719 --> 00:57:38,000
not as exciting. Jeger has some interesting ones like baledo'brian little.

1149
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,760
Looking at the Hockey Prospect team between the two, Lakaramaki

1150
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,760
has trended down to ten percent, brand Yeger holding firm

1151
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,519
at twenty one percent, and I think that the Lakaramaki

1152
00:57:49,639 --> 00:57:52,519
part of the reason it was hard for him to

1153
00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:55,039
increase his star potential is that last season was so

1154
00:57:55,119 --> 00:57:58,360
bad for him in terms of the production goalscorer who

1155
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,320
doesn't score that there? The problem right there is that

1156
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,079
if you're not doing that, then what else are you doing?

1157
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:05,719
And the answer for him was not much, which we

1158
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,880
talked about on last year's show. Looking at some other

1159
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,719
comps for Laketa Maki, there aren't a whole lot of

1160
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,599
great ones, but Riley Smith is one that he looks

1161
00:58:14,599 --> 00:58:16,840
a lot alike in this model end up being more

1162
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,880
of an average producer. Smith is more a fifty to

1163
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,440
sixty point guy, maybe with upside for a little more

1164
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,480
in the right situation. I think that's probably where Lakaramaki lives,

1165
00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:29,760
although more goals would probably be the expectation there. Looking

1166
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,639
at the J Fresh card, you got Lakara Maaky at

1167
00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:35,199
nine percent of being a star and seventy six percent

1168
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,159
chance of being an NHL A. So pretty for sure

1169
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:42,639
NHLO probability and not as much our potential as we've

1170
00:58:42,679 --> 00:58:46,199
come to expect from our J Fresh friend. So that's

1171
00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:48,559
it for Lakaramak. I do think there's some volatility in

1172
00:58:48,639 --> 00:58:51,679
terms of the upside, but there should be a pretty

1173
00:58:51,679 --> 00:58:54,559
strong offensive player. It might be limited though, based on

1174
00:58:54,599 --> 00:58:57,079
his off buck and all around play.

1175
00:58:58,039 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 4: Mixed up victor need to know prospect.

1176
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:03,639
Speaker 3: I need to know is Tom Villander twenty twenty three,

1177
00:59:03,719 --> 00:59:06,800
eleventh overall pick six to one, one hundred and seventy

1178
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,360
nine pounds, right handed. D came to North America after

1179
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,840
playing the Roguela BK system this season in his draft

1180
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,400
season sorry, where he played mainly in the j twenty

1181
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,679
twenty five points in thirty eight games for Boston University.

1182
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,800
Really strong team a lot of times playing with Lane Hudson,

1183
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:27,280
which was certainly good for both three points. In seven

1184
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,920
U twenty World Junior Championship games, he was a really

1185
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,440
important part of that team, I would say personally more

1186
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,679
important than the Karamake because he was keeping all the

1187
00:59:35,719 --> 00:59:39,079
pucks out of the net and all around really strong

1188
00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:44,840
defensive impacts. Looking at the tracking data from Mitch Brown,

1189
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,639
you can see that the defense was ninety third percentile

1190
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:51,440
really fantastic, seventy six percentile for a transition game, and

1191
00:59:51,679 --> 00:59:54,480
fiftieth were offense. He actually did see is some power

1192
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,000
play time, but that was mostly going to Axil sending Pelika.

1193
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,599
But he does he is someone who can do that.

1194
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:02,320
I'm not sure that's going to be a mainstay part

1195
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,239
of his game. Looking at the Fantasy Hockey Life player

1196
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:10,039
card for Verlander, you can see that his bash is

1197
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,440
really going to be below average. His hits are just

1198
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,760
barely above average, his blocks are average, and his shots

1199
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,679
are really low. So on average, he looks like he'll

1200
01:00:17,719 --> 01:00:21,039
be a thirtieth percentile for bash, his goals for sixty

1201
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:25,639
or seventieth and assists ninetieth, and that's in the NCAA.

1202
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,159
Not sure how much that's going to travel translating when

1203
01:00:28,159 --> 01:00:30,639
he's not playing with Lane Hudson. We'll have to see

1204
01:00:30,639 --> 01:00:33,920
about that. Overall, I have his puck stud at five

1205
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,079
point three to three, so that's thirty three percent chance

1206
01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:38,760
of being a five out of ten. So not super exciting,

1207
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:42,119
and that's probably because I'm not sure his offensive impacts

1208
01:00:42,119 --> 01:00:43,920
are going to translate. But to hear a little bit

1209
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,360
more about Velander, let's hear from our Fahl scout.

1210
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,559
Speaker 4: Jesse and our Fahl scout Grant has this to say

1211
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:55,440
about Belander skating strong out of skates, slightly above average skater,

1212
01:00:55,639 --> 01:00:58,400
has good edges and can't accelerate to get up ice

1213
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:01,800
or recover if beaten. His turn from backward to forward

1214
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,400
on the right side can use some work in terms

1215
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,360
of passing and handling. An accurate Chris breakout pass which

1216
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,079
he likes to use ninety percent of the time to

1217
01:01:10,119 --> 01:01:12,400
break the puck out of his own end. He rarely

1218
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,599
skates the puck out. His handling of the puck is

1219
01:01:14,639 --> 01:01:17,280
a bad average. He's not going to dangle through the

1220
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,679
whole team. Shooting nice hard snapshot which he gets quickly

1221
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,480
from the point. He's patient before shooting to make sure

1222
01:01:24,519 --> 01:01:26,519
he has traffic in front of the net, and he

1223
01:01:26,679 --> 01:01:28,840
likes to get himself to the middle of the ice

1224
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,320
iq Wellandra scans a lot in his own end and

1225
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,920
seems to know where the opposition and his teammates are

1226
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,039
at all times. He can skate himself into trouble because

1227
01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:41,719
of his patients with the puck when he is below

1228
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,000
the face off circle in his own end. He can

1229
01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:47,920
hesitate at times to get fifty to fifty pucks. His

1230
01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:50,519
patience with the puck in ability to see teammates on

1231
01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:54,840
the breakout is above average. Defense. Willandra has a very

1232
01:01:55,039 --> 01:01:58,840
good active stick and good gap control. He boxes out

1233
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,960
well in front of his own net, rarely loses his positioning,

1234
01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:05,599
not overly physical and more of a pusher board pinner

1235
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,239
than a hitter. When he is beat, it's usually to

1236
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,119
the outside on a rush. So the best asset was

1237
01:02:11,159 --> 01:02:15,800
patients with the buck, good passing, offensively strong positioning, and

1238
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:20,039
stick without the puck. Biggest concern well Grant thinks that

1239
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:23,480
offensive ceiling is going to be low, bad news for fantasy.

1240
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:26,199
Most of his assists or secondary and goals are from

1241
01:02:26,239 --> 01:02:29,199
the point. The top tier outcome could be a top

1242
01:02:29,239 --> 01:02:33,920
four defender power play two thirty to forty points, fifty

1243
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,280
to sixty hits, one hundred blocks. That's because he seemed

1244
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,559
to play a cautious game in his first year at Boston.

1245
01:02:39,639 --> 01:02:42,639
You there could be a little more in the skill

1246
01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:44,960
set to bring out in year two to get to

1247
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:48,719
that height. The fiftieth percentile of the median outcome bottom

1248
01:02:48,719 --> 01:02:52,400
pairing defender fifteen to seventeen minutes a game fifteen to

1249
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,639
twenty five points. Nil's lunk vist type production. That's because

1250
01:02:56,639 --> 01:02:58,719
he needs to add elements to his game that he

1251
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,119
didn't show consistently in college. After one year. If he

1252
01:03:02,199 --> 01:03:05,360
develops his game as it is, this might be his

1253
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:12,400
ceiling and the NHL ranking. Mason Black puts out the

1254
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:17,199
poll Tom Willander versus Adam Eircheck, and Willander comes out

1255
01:03:17,239 --> 01:03:20,800
firmly in control here sixty six to thirty four Victor.

1256
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,800
Is that the same way you rank them?

1257
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 3: No, not even close. I don't know why people are

1258
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,440
so obsessed with Valander. Maybe this is a Vancouver Canucks

1259
01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:36,000
filling the votes. But I think Lelander is going to

1260
01:03:36,039 --> 01:03:39,400
be an awesome real life defenseman. I don't really think

1261
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,280
he's going to be that exciting in fantasy and Adam

1262
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,719
Yirchek the year Checks are my boys. Everyone knows that

1263
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,360
I love what they bring. I love the Bash, the

1264
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,800
all around physicality, and they have some good offensive acumen

1265
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,840
and other aspects as well. I think your Check is

1266
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,880
going to be great. There is, of course, some questions,

1267
01:03:58,159 --> 01:04:00,559
especially for him. We lost a lot of his draft

1268
01:04:00,639 --> 01:04:03,239
season that we didn't get to see. Unfortunately, just like

1269
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,719
his brother, he had a knee injury at the World

1270
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,559
Championships and he wasn't great before that in his play

1271
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:12,760
in check Ya with the men's team, so we don't

1272
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,519
really know. Unfortunately, we thought that we were maybe going

1273
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:17,960
to get to see him at the U eighteens like

1274
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,960
we did with Aaron kV are you, but we were

1275
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,480
not able to see that. So we don't really know

1276
01:04:22,719 --> 01:04:26,119
what to expect from Adam Rochek, But I do think

1277
01:04:26,159 --> 01:04:28,360
based on his draft minus one season and what his

1278
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,519
brother is accomplished, I think the upside is pretty significant

1279
01:04:31,519 --> 01:04:34,320
for him and the Bash should be high, and there's

1280
01:04:34,519 --> 01:04:37,760
dis points upside. Looking at the pnch League between the two,

1281
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,960
we don't really have one for year Check. Bevelander is

1282
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,480
at sixty one based on his NCAA performers, but I

1283
01:04:42,599 --> 01:04:45,400
just don't think he really gets there when the context

1284
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,280
changes for him. We'll have to see about that. He

1285
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,679
is getting Cole Hudson now at BU, so maybe he'll

1286
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,679
go from Hudson Hudson. We'll have to see about that.

1287
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,159
For Vilander, assuming he's back at BU, he might he's

1288
01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:03,320
actually eligible because he was drafted Euro he could go

1289
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,119
to the AHL, which might be a better place for

1290
01:05:05,199 --> 01:05:08,679
him anyways. Looking at the hockey prospecting between these two,

1291
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,239
both have pretty low equivalency. Lander just at five percent

1292
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,360
and you're to check two percent and Velander fifty six

1293
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,000
percent chance of being an NHLer and you're a check fifteen.

1294
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:22,960
Neither have super high equivalency here. Looking at some other

1295
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:27,079
realistic comps for Verlander, I think Mark Edward Lassik is

1296
01:05:27,079 --> 01:05:29,960
a pretty realistic one. Never really did too much in

1297
01:05:30,039 --> 01:05:33,079
terms of points in the NHL, but was a really

1298
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:36,400
good real life defenseman for the team, and I think

1299
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,760
that's going to be true for Verlander. Someone who will

1300
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,239
help the Canucks, will help the goalies, but not necessarily

1301
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,159
help you in fantasy. The j Fresh card for Lander

1302
01:05:44,199 --> 01:05:46,480
two percent chance of being a star, fifteen percent chance

1303
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,800
of being an NHLer. I think that's a little bit realistic. Unfortunately,

1304
01:05:51,039 --> 01:05:54,920
except the NHLer part, I think that's pretty pretty realistic.

1305
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 4: All right, Victor, who's to keep your eye on prospect?

1306
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,519
Speaker 3: Keep your eye is Atu Ratu. That is a twenty

1307
01:06:03,559 --> 01:06:06,400
twenty one second round pick, sixty two hundred and eighty

1308
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,480
seven pound left shot center. After a strong season in

1309
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,280
the Liga in twenty twenty one to twenty two forty

1310
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,559
points in forty one games, he came to North America

1311
01:06:13,599 --> 01:06:15,599
in twenty twenty two twenty three and split time between

1312
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:18,519
the Islanders and the Canucks HL system. Last season, he

1313
01:06:18,559 --> 01:06:20,920
put up fifty two points in seventy two HL games,

1314
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:24,519
which was fantastic. His FHL player card shows that he

1315
01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:28,440
actually hits quite a bit eight eightieth percentile for hits

1316
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,440
for sixty his hits. His shots and blocks though, are

1317
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,079
pretty low, just in the twentieth and thirtieth percentile, So

1318
01:06:34,159 --> 01:06:36,400
overall his bash looks like it might be low save

1319
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,880
for the hits, and his assists were pretty good at

1320
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,760
eightieth percentile. The rest of his numbers were average, So

1321
01:06:42,039 --> 01:06:44,800
there's potential here for some fantasy value, But I think

1322
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,599
we need to learn a little bit more about the

1323
01:06:46,599 --> 01:06:49,480
player that Atu Ratu is from our FHL scout jesse.

1324
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:55,079
Speaker 4: A to Ra Tou. His skating doesn't come naturally. He's

1325
01:06:55,119 --> 01:06:57,679
got a stiff stride, won't win many races for the puck.

1326
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,920
Strong on his skates, has decent lateral movement with the puck.

1327
01:07:01,079 --> 01:07:04,519
Skating will be his biggest hurdle to sticking in the NHL.

1328
01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:08,760
Passing and handling, Rattu is very adapt at handling the

1329
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:12,960
puck and tight. Is above average at receiving passes, slows

1330
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,840
the play down when with the puck, and looks for

1331
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:20,920
passing options. Shooting, Ratu is a nice wrist or snapshot

1332
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,559
that he can drag on occasion and surprise goalies from

1333
01:07:23,639 --> 01:07:26,320
just inside the face off circles. He has a quick

1334
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,920
release from in tight is above average at deflecting the

1335
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:35,239
puck when in front of the net iq Ratu lacks

1336
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,320
a little in the vision and anticipation departments, does the

1337
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,320
scan when without the puck that often, and can miss

1338
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,880
a passing lantern offense or lose a man on defense.

1339
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:48,800
He has above average poise very low panic threshold, which

1340
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,199
can work to his favor for checking. Strong on his feet,

1341
01:07:52,199 --> 01:07:54,920
good along the boards. He'll take a hit if it's there,

1342
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,519
but not a basher by any means. He prefers to

1343
01:07:57,559 --> 01:07:59,960
stay out high and have his teammates do the four

1344
01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:08,639
checking defense well. Graham was expecting a little more defensively

1345
01:08:08,639 --> 01:08:12,000
from Raw two. At the AHL level, he played center

1346
01:08:12,159 --> 01:08:15,679
and wing, but his position at center can sometimes end

1347
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,920
up with him out high. He can be defensively unaware

1348
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,560
at times, which can cause him to react late. Doesn't

1349
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,039
always translate to being good defensively. His struggles at center

1350
01:08:25,079 --> 01:08:28,359
in the AHL raised doubts about his ability to play

1351
01:08:28,399 --> 01:08:32,359
there in the NHL. So the best asset his ability

1352
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:35,399
in the face off circle. Puck handling, good risk snapshot

1353
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,479
are the best ass sets. He has the ability to

1354
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:41,439
slow the game down when the puck comes to his pace.

1355
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:46,920
At the AHL level, the biggest concern skating below average defense,

1356
01:08:47,079 --> 01:08:50,239
not at an NHL level. Not sure the skill set

1357
01:08:50,279 --> 01:08:52,239
is high enough without the defense to stick at the

1358
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:55,720
higher level. Grant says, the best outcome you could hope

1359
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,319
for from Raw two is the third line center winner

1360
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,039
winger who wins some face off scores fifteen to twenty goals,

1361
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,640
thirty five to forty five overall points in the NHL.

1362
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,680
He's got the skill to put up that many points.

1363
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,720
He's going to need to improve his defense to get

1364
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:15,079
the opportunity. The median outcome an AHL player who gets

1365
01:09:15,079 --> 01:09:17,279
a few more cups of coffee at the NHL level

1366
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,439
and heads back to the LIGA in a few years.

1367
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,079
If he doesn't progress in the AHL this year, he's

1368
01:09:23,159 --> 01:09:25,199
just not going to get to the NHL, says Grant.

1369
01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:29,079
This season is very important to his future in North America.

1370
01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:32,880
The NHL ranking Mason Black put out the poll Atu

1371
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:38,920
Ratu versus Zach LaRue, and Lararue of the Nashville Predators

1372
01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:43,399
wins this one fifty two to forty eight. Victor, boy,

1373
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,520
I know you're not the biggest fan of that gentleman.

1374
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:50,359
Speaker 3: What do you think which gentleman? LaRue or Ratu LaRue?

1375
01:09:50,399 --> 01:09:53,039
Speaker 4: I don't think you like Rawtu either, Victor, you hate everybody?

1376
01:09:53,119 --> 01:09:53,800
What's wrong with you?

1377
01:09:54,359 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 3: I don't hate many people, but no, I actually do

1378
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,000
like LaRue. I just took him in our Diesel Drift,

1379
01:10:00,399 --> 01:10:03,439
the one the four sport league that you've put together.

1380
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:07,000
I really like LaRue, especially based on his performance this season.

1381
01:10:07,159 --> 01:10:11,279
He really was fantastic in the HL. You're right, that

1382
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:13,159
I have been skeptical of him in the past and

1383
01:10:13,319 --> 01:10:15,439
coming out of the queue and having a lot of

1384
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,760
physicality to his game, which can be a good thing,

1385
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,960
but I wasn't sure how much the points were. Then

1386
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,520
he scored forty eight points in sixty six HL games

1387
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,560
for your Milwaukee Admirals over there, and he went point

1388
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,039
per game in the HL playoffs, with fifteen points in

1389
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:31,359
fifteen games, ten of those being goals. So I'm starting

1390
01:10:31,399 --> 01:10:34,079
to come around, and I actually wanted someone really close

1391
01:10:34,119 --> 01:10:37,119
to nhlready, which is why I picked LaRue in that draft.

1392
01:10:37,159 --> 01:10:39,239
These are all a bunch of guys that are available

1393
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,239
that were drafted previously, so anyways, I think I would

1394
01:10:43,239 --> 01:10:45,720
take LaRue here. I'm still a little skeptical on Ratu.

1395
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,800
The foot speed remains an issue. I watched them tape

1396
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,039
on him. He is someone who sees the play really well,

1397
01:10:51,039 --> 01:10:52,680
though I would say and guess to where he needs

1398
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,960
to get based on his hockey IQ. But I still

1399
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,319
think that there's some unlimited upside there in terms of

1400
01:10:59,359 --> 01:11:02,239
how much he could produce in the NHL level. Probably

1401
01:11:02,279 --> 01:11:04,720
more of a middle six, maybe forty to fifty point guy.

1402
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,079
Not sure that's what his pnhle suggests right now, LaRue

1403
01:11:08,159 --> 01:11:10,399
already doing it a little bit more in the HL,

1404
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,520
and Ratu has had some decent HL production. As I mentioned,

1405
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,760
he's in his third AHL season basically now or coming

1406
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,399
up on his third, and so it's a little less

1407
01:11:19,399 --> 01:11:24,079
exciting when you do that in your subsequent season, unlike LaRue.

1408
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,960
So I have a little bit more excitement for Lou

1409
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,039
at this point. Looking at the hockey prospecting between the two,

1410
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,520
it's actually pretty pessimistic for both. Although LaRue started at

1411
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,720
twenty three percent chances of being a star, he's regressed

1412
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,600
down to just one percent. I think that's much higher actually,

1413
01:11:40,079 --> 01:11:43,119
and Ratu has been basically zero percent this entire time,

1414
01:11:43,119 --> 01:11:45,720
which is I think he has more upside than that.

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The NHLer probability also goes to LaRue at fifty eight

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to thirty eight. I think both these guys have pretty

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realistic shot to play NHL games. So trying to find

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some comfer Ratu that looks decent with this low percentage,

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and the only one that really looks close as Mason mccavish,

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who wasn't at zero percent, but he was at seven seven,

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six and then eight percent when he graduated the model,

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but obviously he is an NHLer. But the thing that

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really messed it up in Byron's calculations is missing that

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entire twenty twenty one season in the OHL, so that

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I think messed up the equivalencies. But anyways, mctel rattu

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three percent chance of being a star seventy one percent

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chance of being an NHL are based on the Jfresh card,

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so as usual, a little bit more pessimistic there. And

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that's it for the Vancouver Canucks dig. If you want

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to listen to my top ten prospects recap, you can

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hear that on Patreon. And if you're going to do

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some scouting with us, shoot me a dam on Twitter,

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Speaker 4: Us ato ra to la. Rue your boat gently down

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the stream and we'll be right back to close.

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Speaker 2: Out this show.

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think of. I've been stretching thinking about doing one of

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those best ball leagues. We'll just see how excited I

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