1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,360 In this episode, we're gonna pick up where we left 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:11,919 off with the Sarah Ransom deposition. So let's dive right 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,960 back in, shall we. Manager, Approximately, how many times do 5 00:00:17,039 --> 00:00:20,239 you recall being paid to spend dinner with a gentleman 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,679 in New York when you were living here in late 7 00:00:22,719 --> 00:00:27,359 two thousand and six? Ransom? I can't remember, Manager ten times, 8 00:00:27,879 --> 00:00:33,000 mister Gergis objection, Ransom. It could be it wasn't yet. 9 00:00:33,079 --> 00:00:36,240 It could be that it wasn't really to this, She's 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,600 interrupted by Manager. Apart from that income, did you have 11 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:43,520 any other source of income? Mister Gergis, I'm sorry. Off 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,600 the record for a second, and off the record discussion 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,920 is held. Manager gets back to it. I think there's 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:55,240 a question pending requested. Portion of the record was read back. Ransom, Yes, 15 00:00:55,399 --> 00:01:02,159 I did. Yes, Manager. What were the other sources? Ransom, Epstein, Manager, 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,599 any other sources? Ransom? No? Manager? Who introduced you to 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:12,079 Jeffrey Epstein? Ransom? Redacted? Manager? And how did you meet redacted? Ransom? 18 00:01:12,239 --> 00:01:15,079 I met her in a nightclub? Manager, do you know 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,640 which nightclub? Ransom? I can't remember the exact name. It 20 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,840 was a rock club. The owner of the club, his 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,200 name is redacted. Yeah, his name. It's quite a well 22 00:01:24,239 --> 00:01:27,359 known club. If you google the name redacted, you'll find 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,959 the name redacted, the nightclub's owner. He's quite famous in 24 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,359 New York. Manager, do you know where in New York 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,079 the club is located? Ransom? I can't remember. I don't 26 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:42,400 know the exact location. Manager. Were you there socially or 27 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:47,040 were you working Ransom socially? Manager? And were you there 28 00:01:47,079 --> 00:01:50,519 with anyone? Ransom, I can't remember. I would have been 29 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,719 with an acquaintance or something, but I can't remember who 30 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,799 I was with. Manager. Were you able to make some 31 00:01:56,879 --> 00:02:00,560 friends with people here in New York when you moved here, Ransom? Yes, 32 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:04,560 redacted and redacted, a girl name redacted. There were a 33 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,760 few others I can't remember there. They weren't close friends, 34 00:02:07,799 --> 00:02:10,319 they were just acquaintances. You don't really make friends in 35 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,439 New York. Manager, tell me about your meeting of redacted Ransom. 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,719 She was very attractive, I think redacted, very friendly, very 37 00:02:19,759 --> 00:02:25,360 beautiful girl, very friendly, very beautiful girl, very We clicked immediately. Yeah, 38 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,919 she approached me. I wasn't Yeah, I didn't go out 39 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,479 of my way to meet any friends in a nightclub, 40 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:37,120 so especially girls. Menager, What do you mean she approached you, Ransom? 41 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,560 So when I go to the club, I don't really 42 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:43,000 speak to girls. I speak to guys. So redacted approached 43 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,879 me and came on to me. Manager. Where were you, 44 00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:50,879 Ransom in the nightclub? Manager? Where in the nightclub? Ransom? 45 00:02:51,039 --> 00:02:55,000 I can't I can't remember the exact location. Manager. Were 46 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,159 you at the bar area, on the dance floor, in 47 00:02:57,199 --> 00:03:00,759 the bathroom, Ransom? I would say she pretty much hit 48 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,840 on me everywhere in the club, Menager. Was there a 49 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,199 dance floor, Ransom, Yes, there was, Menainger. Was it a 50 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,319 one floor club or two floors? Ransom? I can't remember 51 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,800 how many floors, Menager? And what did she do to 52 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:21,000 hit on you, Ransom? She befriended me, Yeah, she kissed me, Menager. 53 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,719 Where did she kiss you, Ransom on the mouth? Menager? 54 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:29,280 Anywhere else? Ransom? Ken is that in general or at 55 00:03:29,319 --> 00:03:32,400 that Menager? I'm just talking about the first time that 56 00:03:32,479 --> 00:03:37,360 you met her, Ransom. The first time we met, Menager, Right, Ransom, 57 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:39,680 I can't remember if we had sex the first night 58 00:03:39,719 --> 00:03:42,319 we met, but we definitely were intimate the first time 59 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,719 we met. But I can't remember if we had sex 60 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:50,719 on that first night, Menager. Okay, was that consensual sex? Ransom? Yes? 61 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:53,919 It was with redacted? Menager? And where did you have 62 00:03:54,039 --> 00:03:58,240 consensual sex with redacted? Ransom? In the club the first 63 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,919 time we're in the club? Ransom? In the owner's office. 64 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,280 Manager was the owner present? Ransom? Yes, the owner was present? 65 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,800 Manager redacted and redacted? Ransom? Is that? I don't know 66 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:14,719 his surname? So is it redacted? I can only give 67 00:04:14,719 --> 00:04:18,560 you a description of redacted if you want, Manager, Sure, 68 00:04:18,879 --> 00:04:22,759 this whole next section is redacted. Menager. Okay, So you 69 00:04:22,879 --> 00:04:27,399 and redacted and redacted had consensual sex in redacted's office. 70 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:33,879 Mister Gergis objection. Ms McCauley, objection. Manager, is that right? Ransom? 71 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,319 That's correct? Manager? Did I get that wrong in any way? 72 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:44,040 Mister Gergis, here's the question, Sarah Ransom, Yeah, that's correct. Manager. 73 00:04:44,399 --> 00:04:48,000 Was anyone else present? Ransom? No? Manager. Did you have 74 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,480 any alcohol that night? Ransom? I did? Manager? How much? Ransom? 75 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,879 Not enough to forget or blackout? So not much. I 76 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,279 was able to make decisions? Menager. Do you recall what 77 00:04:59,319 --> 00:05:03,160 you were wearing? Ransom? No, I don't. Menager. Did you 78 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,600 have any cocaine that night? Ransom? I don't remember. Menager. 79 00:05:06,879 --> 00:05:09,279 Did you use cocaine during the fall of two thousand 80 00:05:09,319 --> 00:05:11,879 and six? Is that a real question? Who didn't use 81 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,079 cocaine in the two thousands, especially if you're a model 82 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,639 and you're out at clubs? Ransom? Yes, I did, Menager? 83 00:05:20,319 --> 00:05:23,759 And where did you get that cocaine? Ransom from redacted 84 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,639 and redacted? Menager? Anywhere else? Ransom from Redacted's best friend, 85 00:05:28,959 --> 00:05:31,680 a guy named redacted. I don't know how to spell that. 86 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,319 Menager anywhere else? Ransom, no menager? Did you pay for 87 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,839 any of the cocaine? Ransom? No menager. Did you use 88 00:05:39,879 --> 00:05:42,639 any of the controlled substances in the fall of two 89 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,959 thousand and six? Ransom? No menager? Did you take any 90 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,560 prescriptions in the fall of two thousand and six? Ransom? 91 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,040 I did, Menager? What did you take? Ransom? Jeffrey psychiatrists 92 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,160 prescribe me lithium riddle in, and there was a bipolar 93 00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:01,519 prescription drug that was also prescribed to me by Jeffrey 94 00:06:01,519 --> 00:06:05,040 Epstein's psychiatrist. I can't remember the exact name of the 95 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:08,319 bipolar drug, but I was started off with lithium and 96 00:06:08,439 --> 00:06:13,959 Riddlin Meninger. Okay, what was the name of the psychiatrist, Ransom, 97 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,079 I can't remember her name, Meninger. It was a woman, Ransom, 98 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,079 it was a woman. Manager. And where was she located? Ransom, 99 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:26,480 I can't. I can't remember the exact location of her office. Manager, 100 00:06:26,759 --> 00:06:30,800 can you describe the office in any way? Ransom? I 101 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,279 can't remember, Menainger. Did anyone go with you? Ransom? No, 102 00:06:34,519 --> 00:06:37,639 I went on my own, Menainger. Where did you go 103 00:06:37,759 --> 00:06:41,759 to get your prescription filled? Ransom? A pharmacyior Jeffrey Epstein's 104 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,439 apartment that I was living in at the time. I 105 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:49,959 think it was Dwayne Reid. Manager. Were they in your name? Ransom? Yes, 106 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,920 they were Menainger. Were you taking these in the fall 107 00:06:52,959 --> 00:06:55,079 of two thousand and six or in two thousand and 108 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,600 seven or both? Ransom? Jeffrey first put me in touch 109 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,959 with his kiatrist. It was before it was Yeah, it 110 00:07:03,079 --> 00:07:06,519 was well before December, so it was the fall of 111 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,720 the fall winter going into winter of two thousand and six. Manager. 112 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,920 Do you recall what month you came to the US, Ransom? 113 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,439 It was September of two thousand and six. Manager. Did 114 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,680 you leave and come back in October, Ransom. I think 115 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,720 I may have. I may have made a trip to 116 00:07:22,759 --> 00:07:26,160 London or like a quick brief trip. Manager. Who paid 117 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,720 for that, Ransom? I can't remember, Manager, Why did you 118 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:34,879 go back, Ransom? I can't actually remember why I went back? Manager, 119 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:38,040 So you think you came in September, Ransom. I know 120 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,000 I came in September, Menager, and you said you could 121 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,439 only stay for three months, Ransom. And then I left 122 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,160 the country briefly for a day. Then I came back 123 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,560 in again. Manager, When did you do that? Ransom? So 124 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,199 if you look at my passport when I entered, you've 125 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:55,920 got my passport. So I arrived on the first, I 126 00:07:55,959 --> 00:07:58,399 think of September, and then it was just before the 127 00:07:58,439 --> 00:08:01,240 three months were up, and then I left. I think 128 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,519 that was the trip that I made to London in 129 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,199 October November. October November, yeah, so I was. I left 130 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,959 before the due time that my tourist visa was up, 131 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:15,360 and I spent the summer and I came back. Manager. 132 00:08:15,439 --> 00:08:18,279 Where did you go, Ransom? I think it was London. 133 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,759 I went to I went to London, and then Jeffrey 134 00:08:21,759 --> 00:08:23,879 paid for a flight for me to visit my family 135 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,639 in South Africa in February. Menager. Okay, so there's two 136 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,000 trips to London we're talking about. There's one you went 137 00:08:31,199 --> 00:08:35,240 and you came right back. Ransom. I only recall one 138 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:37,960 trip to London. I didn't really kind of catalog every 139 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,279 trip I made. I did a lot of traveling during 140 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,919 my time in the US. So, Menager, have you traveled 141 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:47,039 a lot before you came to the US? Ransom, Yeah, 142 00:08:47,159 --> 00:08:50,159 I spent my whole life traveling, Menager. How were you 143 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,799 able to do that? Ransom through savings, through waitressing jobs, 144 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,919 that kind of thing. Menager. Did your family ever pay 145 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,960 for you to go on trips? Ransom? No, Menager, never, 146 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:06,279 Ransom No, Menager. Does your family travel? Ransom? Yeah, they travel. 147 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:11,600 They go on holidays overseas, they go on holidays. Managers. 148 00:09:11,639 --> 00:09:13,919 So you said you got a passport your whole life. 149 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,039 I think you said, right. Ransom. Well, I can't remember 150 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,440 the specific date when I was, like from three to 151 00:09:20,519 --> 00:09:23,120 five when I got my passport. I didn't arrange my 152 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,679 passport at three years old. My mom kind of did that. 153 00:09:26,159 --> 00:09:28,759 So I've always grown up with a British and South 154 00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:32,159 African passport. I had dual nationality right from the get 155 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,159 go Manager, right. So when you were a child, did 156 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,799 you travel internationally? Ransom? Yeah, I did to visit my 157 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,639 family in Scotland, Menager. And apart from the UK and 158 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,919 South Africa, did you go anywhere as a child, Ransom. 159 00:09:47,159 --> 00:09:50,200 We went on holidays and Africa. Maybe I went to 160 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:55,879 Scotland to visit my family. Yeah, possibly, I don't remember, Menager. Okay, Ransom. 161 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,960 They weren't photo happy in my family, Menager. They were 162 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,919 what Ransom, they weren't photo happy. So Maxwell, So back 163 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,080 in the fall two thousand and six, you were here 164 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:10,320 for three months and then you left, Ransom. Yeah. I 165 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,240 didn't want to go over my visa and get in 166 00:10:12,279 --> 00:10:15,879 trouble and I wasn't making much money anyway, and Jeffrey 167 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,440 was with FIT so he was going to organize me 168 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,960 at visa so I could stay. So I didn't do 169 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,000 anything wrong or illegal with my visa. Just to clarify, Menager, 170 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,840 I understand. I'm just trying to get the timing of 171 00:10:27,879 --> 00:10:30,279 when you were here and when you left and then 172 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,320 you came back, Is that right, Ransom? So the duration 173 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,600 that I was here, I arrived in September and I left. 174 00:10:37,799 --> 00:10:39,960 I think it was the first of May. So during 175 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,960 that time, there was a trip that I made to 176 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,320 South Africa to visit my family, and there was a 177 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,440 trip to London. I don't recall. I don't remember any 178 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,919 other trips that I made during that duration of time 179 00:10:51,159 --> 00:10:54,559 away from Jeffrey and Glane. If you understand on my 180 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,440 independent own Menager, Right, So if you came in September 181 00:10:58,639 --> 00:11:02,399 and you could stay for three months, Ransom? Uh huh? Manager, 182 00:11:02,639 --> 00:11:09,759 so you left in December McCauley objection, asked and answered Ransom, September, October, November. Yeah, 183 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:11,960 I did. I did make a trip too. I don't 184 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,320 recall those specific dates, but I did make a trip 185 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,200 to London and I did make a trip to South 186 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,679 Africa in February, so I don't manager. Did you go 187 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,879 from London to South Africa? Ransom? I don't remember the 188 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,200 exact trip itinerary, but yeah, I flew to South Africa 189 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:32,039 on a plane Manager from London, Ransom from New York Menager. Okay, 190 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,960 so your recall having been on two trips independently between 191 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,720 September two thousand and six and May of two thousand 192 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,759 and seven, Right, one to London and one to South Africa. 193 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,679 Ransom yeah, that's correct, Menager. And the one to London 194 00:11:44,759 --> 00:11:47,440 you recall being a brief trip to then allow you 195 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,799 to stay in the country longer. Ransom. I don't remember 196 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,279 why I went. I don't even remember the trip. Okay, 197 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,360 I really don't recall. I probably visited my mom or whatever. 198 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,440 I just know that I made two trips during that duration, 199 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,679 and I know that I did not go over the 200 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:08,639 three month thing. So I made those four specific reasons, Menager. Okay, Ransom, 201 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,799 but those I just wanted to make clear that those 202 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,240 were the only two trips I made independently without Jeffrey aiding, 203 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,559 and I would like to make that clear. I made 204 00:12:17,639 --> 00:12:22,279 multiple trips with Jeffrey, so independently I did those two, Menager. 205 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,440 Were any of your trips with Jeffrey International Ransom? No, Menager, 206 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,840 Can you tell me when in your stay in the 207 00:12:29,919 --> 00:12:33,919 US you initially met redacted Ransom? It was pretty soon 208 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,240 after I arrived. I can't remember the exact timeframe. I 209 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:40,840 think it was about maybe two three weeks after I arrived, Menager. 210 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,120 Were you living at redacteds Ransom? Yes, Menager. Did you 211 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,679 consider yourself in a relationship with redacted Ransom? No, we 212 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,440 were just having fun and she was really friendly. And 213 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,000 I didn't know anyone in New York, so, and you know, 214 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,360 I wanted to make friends. She was a girl and 215 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,639 she was just very friendly pretty. Manager. Was she also 216 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,159 involved in the fashion industry at all? Ransom? I don't recall. 217 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:10,879 I just recall her working for Jeffrey. Manager. What did 218 00:13:10,919 --> 00:13:14,360 you observe her doing for Jeffrey Ransom? The exact same 219 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:16,919 thing she did with me. She recruited me and she 220 00:13:17,039 --> 00:13:20,080 was paid for it. Manager. Okay, did you see her 221 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,519 get paid Ransom? No? Manager, how do you know that 222 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,480 she got paid ransom? The girls told me Manager. Who 223 00:13:27,519 --> 00:13:32,399 were the girls? Ransom? I can't remember their names? Menager, Okay, 224 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,840 so the girls told you that redacted got paid by 225 00:13:34,919 --> 00:13:39,600 Jeffrey Ransom. That's correct. Manager. So what did you see 226 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:44,360 redacted do for Jeffrey? Answer by Ransom, Well, she recruited me. 227 00:13:44,879 --> 00:13:48,399 I think she recruited other girls for Jeffrey. Manager. Did 228 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:51,120 you see her do that, Ransom? No, but I met 229 00:13:51,159 --> 00:13:53,120 some of the other girls that had been introduced to 230 00:13:53,159 --> 00:13:58,240 Jeffrey Englaine via redacted. Manager got it? So you were 231 00:13:58,279 --> 00:14:03,360 recruited by redacted? Correct? Yes? Or no? Answer by Ransom. Yes, Menager, 232 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,879 and you met other girls who knew were adacted and 233 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,360 Jeffrey correct, Ransom, Well, all the girls knew each other, really, 234 00:14:10,639 --> 00:14:14,240 all the girls kind of Menager interrupts her. Are these 235 00:14:14,279 --> 00:14:16,679 the same girls that are in the apartment building or 236 00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:22,279 a different set of girls, Ransom, A different set of girls, Menager? Okay, Ransom, 237 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,799 you know there was a constant flow of women girls, Menager. 238 00:14:27,039 --> 00:14:29,960 So where did you see these other girls? Answer? In 239 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,200 Manhattan with Jeffrey. A few social occasions that we went 240 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:36,759 on the island on the plane, Jeffrey Epstein's plane. I 241 00:14:36,799 --> 00:14:40,039 met girls everywhere every time I went with Jeffrey. Well, 242 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,039 not every time, but he was always surrounded by new girls. 243 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,440 I couldn't keep up with the names, to be honest, 244 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,320 That's why I can't remember any of them. Menager. Getting 245 00:14:49,399 --> 00:14:52,279 back to or redacted. You met her at the nightclub? Ransom? 246 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,399 Uh huh? Menager? Did she work as a model at all? Ransom? 247 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,960 I wasn't quite clear what she actually did, To be 248 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,480 honest with you, I absolutely have no idea Manager. Do 249 00:15:02,519 --> 00:15:05,240 you know where she lived? Ransom? No, I didn't. I 250 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,000 don't know where she lives. Meninger, did you ever go 251 00:15:08,039 --> 00:15:11,600 to her apartment. Ransom. No, Menager, when is the last 252 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,039 time you talked to her? Ransom? I haven't, I think 253 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:17,919 before I left New York. All right, So we're gonna 254 00:15:17,919 --> 00:15:20,399 wrap up this part right here, and in the next episode, 255 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,240 we're gonna pick up where we left off. All of 256 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,000 the information that goes with this episode can be found 257 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,360 in the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome back 258 00:15:30,399 --> 00:15:34,399 to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna pick 259 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,159 up where we left off with the Sarah Ransom deposition. 260 00:15:38,679 --> 00:15:41,960 So let's get right back to it, shall we. And 261 00:15:42,039 --> 00:15:47,080 once again it's Laura Meninger who's asking the questions. Menager, 262 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,799 did you have a cell phone when you were in 263 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,480 New York? Ransom? Yes, I did, Menager. Do you recall 264 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:58,279 who your cell phone provider was? Ransom? I don't remember, Menager. 265 00:15:59,039 --> 00:16:02,120 Do you know your cell phone number? Ransom? I have 266 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,000 no idea, Menager, when you were living in New York? 267 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,200 Were your parents living in South Africa? Ransom? My dad 268 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,360 was living in South Africa, my mom was in the UK. Menager, 269 00:16:14,519 --> 00:16:18,600 can you tell me about your first conversation with her redacted? Ransom? 270 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,840 I can't remember my first conversation with her. Menager, can 271 00:16:22,879 --> 00:16:26,519 you remember any conversation with her? Ransom? Yeah, I can. 272 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,159 I can remember chatting. She was my friend. I mean 273 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,480 we spoke about everything. We spoke about life with Jeffrey. 274 00:16:32,559 --> 00:16:35,600 We spoke about Golaine, we spoke about the other girls. 275 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,960 We spoke about redacted. She was a really nice girl 276 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,399 as well. Like we often got coffee with each other, 277 00:16:42,559 --> 00:16:47,039 lunches and dinner. Menager, Okay, do you remember any specifics 278 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:53,519 of your conversation McAuley objection, asked and answered, Ransom. We 279 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,080 spoke very frequently about the faces Jeffrey used to pull 280 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,159 when he used to masturbate over the girls, which she 281 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:03,039 was quite funny. We spoke about Glaine quite a lot, 282 00:17:03,159 --> 00:17:06,200 and what a monster she was. She's really not a 283 00:17:06,279 --> 00:17:09,680 nice person. So yeah, I mean we spoke about all 284 00:17:09,759 --> 00:17:14,079 kinds of things and them a lot actually, Menainger, Okay, 285 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,680 so you spoke about the faces Jeffrey made when he 286 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,799 would masturbate over the girls, Ransom, and the way he 287 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,279 spits on his hands when he masturbates. It's really gross. 288 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,799 It's quite funny, Menager. Any other conversations with here redacted 289 00:17:28,839 --> 00:17:32,799 that you remember, Ransom? I remember I didn't really get 290 00:17:32,839 --> 00:17:35,920 on with Glaine, as I said, she in my opinion, 291 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,519 she's not a nice person. I didn't really get her, 292 00:17:38,839 --> 00:17:42,400 and Jeffrey Epstein promised me going to fit, so we 293 00:17:42,519 --> 00:17:46,559 frequently spoke about just every day things, you know, redacted 294 00:17:46,559 --> 00:17:49,720 and I redacted. Really, Jeffrey Epstein and I once had 295 00:17:49,759 --> 00:17:53,359 a fight, and redacted patch things up between us because 296 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,039 I didn't want to speak to Jeffrey anymore. I often 297 00:17:56,039 --> 00:17:59,319 spoke to redacted about why Glaine didn't like me, and 298 00:17:59,599 --> 00:18:02,839 why the other girls didn't like me. Redacted didn't like me, 299 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:06,960 Golaine didn't like me, or redacted definitely didn't like me. Yeah, 300 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,119 that kind of stuff, menager, how is it that you 301 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,799 came to meet Jeffrey Epstein ransom through redacted manager? Tell 302 00:18:14,839 --> 00:18:19,240 me about that ransom. I first met Jeffrey. Redacted introduced 303 00:18:19,279 --> 00:18:21,680 me to Jeffrey. She kind of described them to me. 304 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,839 She knew I wanted to go back to school to 305 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,400 get a degree, and I was really battling financially because 306 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,119 at that time I wasn't really modeling material. So yeah, 307 00:18:31,279 --> 00:18:34,079 she told me about this guy who was really wealthy, 308 00:18:34,319 --> 00:18:37,480 a philanthropist, you know, really enjoyed you know, he really 309 00:18:37,519 --> 00:18:40,200 cares about people, and he really wants to help them, 310 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:43,680 and he was a really good, decent guy. Then we 311 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,160 he was helping her at that time, as well as 312 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:52,640 redacted and other girls. Menager, that's what she told you, Ransom. Yes, Menager, 313 00:18:53,079 --> 00:18:57,240 Where were you when redacted was describing Jeffrey Ransom? I 314 00:18:57,279 --> 00:19:01,279 can't remember the location, but I mean she first described Jeffrey. 315 00:19:01,519 --> 00:19:03,880 I think it was the second time we met, because 316 00:19:04,079 --> 00:19:07,079 I had discussed with her that I was struggling financially 317 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,400 because of my modeling career hadn't really taken off as 318 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,880 I had hoped it would, so I was, yeah, she 319 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,920 wanted to help, Menager. And you don't remember where you 320 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:22,960 had this conversation, Ransom, No, not specifically the exact location, Menainger. 321 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,519 Was it in person or was it over the phone? Ransom? 322 00:19:26,759 --> 00:19:31,000 It was in person, Meninger. Was anybody else there, Ransom? 323 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,559 I think redacted could have been and redacted could have 324 00:19:34,599 --> 00:19:36,920 been there too. A few other people could have been there, 325 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:41,839 various people. She was quite open about it, Menager. And 326 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,920 do you know when this was in the fall of 327 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,240 two thousand and six, Ransom, It was very close to 328 00:19:47,279 --> 00:19:50,160 after I had first arrived, So it was quite soon 329 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,319 after I arrived. I don't know specifically if it was 330 00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:56,519 three weeks or two weeks, but it was quite soon 331 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,960 after I first got to and then to this. Menager 332 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,839 interrupts her. Okay, so did you meet Jeffrey? Did you 333 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,240 agree to meet Jeffrey? What happened next? Mister Gergis objection 334 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:13,599 to form? Menager? What happened next? Mister Gergis objection to 335 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:18,640 that one too, Ransom? I agreed to Yeah, I met Jeffrey. Menager? 336 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,799 How Ransom, we went to the first meeting I had 337 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:25,559 with Jeffrey was at the cinema. There were about ten 338 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:29,599 other girls with him. Menager, How did that meeting get arranged? 339 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,799 Ransom redacted arranged it and said she had spoken to 340 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,359 Jeffrey and Jeffrey wanted to meet me. Manager. And what 341 00:20:39,519 --> 00:20:43,279 movie did you see? Ransom? I can't remember what the 342 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,279 movie was. Manager. Did you sit with him? Ransom? Yeah? 343 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,799 I did? Manager next to him, Ransom, I can't remember 344 00:20:50,839 --> 00:20:53,839 if it was next to him, but I was close by, Ransom. 345 00:20:54,079 --> 00:20:58,400 You redacted ten other girls and Jeffrey Ransom. I don't 346 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,920 know if it was exactly ten, but or were there 347 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,799 were many other girls there. There was like a big 348 00:21:03,799 --> 00:21:07,799 group of us, Menager. And where was the theater Ransom? 349 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,119 I can't remember the exact location, but it was quite 350 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,960 a prominent. It was a big cinema. It was like 351 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,519 a huge like one of your main cinemas. Somewhere is 352 00:21:17,519 --> 00:21:20,400 there a cinema on Lexington? Maybe? I don't know. Sorry, 353 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,079 navigation is not my strong point. I'm going to stop speculating. 354 00:21:24,079 --> 00:21:28,240 I'm sorry, Okay, I said it for you. I don't know, Menager. 355 00:21:28,519 --> 00:21:30,960 It was somewhere in New York, Ransom. It was in 356 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,480 New York, Menager. And you went with redacted ransom? Yes, Menager. 357 00:21:35,839 --> 00:21:39,640 How did you go ransom by cab? Menager? From your 358 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,480 apartment with redacted ransom? Yes, Menager, And tell me about 359 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,240 your experience at the cinema Ransom. I bought popcorn and 360 00:21:48,279 --> 00:21:52,200 sweets and juice, and I had an awesome time watching 361 00:21:52,279 --> 00:21:55,240 the movie with a bunch of new people, Menager. And 362 00:21:55,319 --> 00:22:01,039 you don't remember the name of the movie. Gergiz Objection Ransom, No, Menager? 363 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,160 And what happened after the movie was over, mister Gergis 364 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:10,359 Objection Ransom. I got in a taxi, Menager, and Gurgis objection, Menager, 365 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,200 what's the objection? Gurgis the objection the question and objection 366 00:22:15,279 --> 00:22:20,799 to form. That's a good objection, Ransom. I went home, Menager. 367 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,440 When was the next time you met Jeffrey Ransom? I 368 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,680 can't remember specific I can't remember. I think I met 369 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,640 him again. I'm not trying to speculate. I think I 370 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,279 met him in New York again. I can't remember the meeting. 371 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,519 I then met him again on his private plane. Manager, 372 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:40,440 So you believe the third time you met him was 373 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,119 on the private plane, Ransom. That's correct, Menager. And do 374 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,680 you remember anything about the second time that you met him? Ransom? No, 375 00:22:48,839 --> 00:22:51,960 I can't remember, Menager. And do you know how long 376 00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:54,279 after the first time you met him the second time? 377 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,559 Was Ransom? Pretty soon after? Menager? What does that mean 378 00:22:58,599 --> 00:23:02,519 to you? Ransom? Couple days? Manager. Where did you meet 379 00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:07,960 him that second time? Ransom? In New York? Menager? Where? Ransom, 380 00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:12,599 I can't remember. Menager at his house? Ransom, No, it 381 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,119 wasn't at the house, Menager. Was anyone else there the 382 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:21,720 second time you met him? Ransom redacted? Menager? Anyone else? Ransom, No, 383 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,720 not that I recall, Menager, anything memorable about that event? Ransom. Nothing, 384 00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:31,799 nothing memorable, Menager. Anything sexual happen at the second meeting, Ransom, 385 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,599 no Menager. At the first meeting, Ransom, no Menager. How 386 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,200 did the flight meeting become arranged? If you know? Ransom? 387 00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:43,680 So it was a pretty last minute thing. Redacted phoned 388 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,559 me and said that Jeffrey Epstein would very much like 389 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,799 to have me go to his island. It was going 390 00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:50,640 to be so much fun. It was going to be 391 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,240 a girl's week. There were lots of other girls going. 392 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,359 We were going to have so much fun. Et cetera, 393 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,400 et cetera, et cetera. Menager. And what did you do, 394 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,359 mister gergis subjection? Ransom. I went on the I went 395 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,319 with them to the island, Menager. Where was the plane located? Ransom. 396 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,039 I can't remember the exact airport. I think it was 397 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:18,400 either Newark or JFK. Menager. Did you fly commercially or private? Ransom? Private? Menager? 398 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,359 Was it Jeffrey's plane? Ransom? Yes, Menager? Who else was 399 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,079 on the plane? Ransom? Redacted and redacted? I would like 400 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,920 to say redacted, but I can't remember her specifically being 401 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,480 there on the first trip, So redacted and redacted. We're 402 00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:39,400 definitely there. Menager. Had you met redacted before? Ransom? No? Menager, 403 00:24:39,599 --> 00:24:43,200 and you don't remember anyone else? Ransom, No, it was 404 00:24:43,319 --> 00:24:46,680 I mean there were always new people around, Jeffrey and Glaine, 405 00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:50,359 so I don't really to this. Menager interrupts her, Well, 406 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,000 you just said en Glaine. Was Glaine there? Ransom? No, 407 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,039 not the first time, Menager. And do you recall what 408 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,559 month this was, Ransom. I can't remember what month it was, Menager. 409 00:25:01,839 --> 00:25:05,880 It was sometime during your first three month period, Ransom. Yeah, 410 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,559 it was within that first three months, Menager, So sometime 411 00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:14,400 between September and December, Ransom. That's correct, Menager. And did 412 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,400 you have a camera with you when you went, Ransom? 413 00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:21,079 I did, Menager? Did you take pictures? Ransom? I took 414 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,799 a couple. Menager described for me what happened on the 415 00:25:24,839 --> 00:25:29,119 plane ride. Ransom redacted, walked in, sat down in front 416 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,000 of me, redacted. We all buckled up, We took off 417 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,640 the rest of the passengers in the I think it's 418 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,960 towards the front of the plane where all the seats are. 419 00:25:38,279 --> 00:25:41,920 All the guests were fall asleep. I pretended to be asleep. 420 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,440 Jeffrey then went Jeffrey went to his was in his 421 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,599 bed on the plane having open sex with redacted for 422 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,799 everyone to see on display. Menager, did you participate in 423 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:56,799 that sex at all? Ransom? No, I did not, Menager. 424 00:25:56,839 --> 00:26:00,400 Did anyone ask you to Ransom? No? Menager. Did you 425 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,599 in redacted have any sexual relationship on that plane the 426 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,839 first plane ride? Ransom? No, Menager. Were you still having 427 00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:14,119 an occasional sexual relationship with redacted at that time? McAuley objection, Ransom, 428 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,000 I can't remember, Meninger. What types of sexual relationship did 429 00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:22,200 Jeffrey and redacted have on the plane in your presence? Ransom? Well, 430 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,480 Redacted with straddling Jeffrey for quite some time. I watched 431 00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:28,400 them both ejaculate with each other. They were having quite 432 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:34,079 a good time together, Menainger. How long was the plane ride, Ransom, gosh, 433 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:39,200 A few hours? A few hours, Meninger. Did you say anything, Ransom, No, 434 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,839 I was a guest. I thought it would be quite inappropriate, Menainger. 435 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,960 All right, Can I ask if you could just draw 436 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,720 a layout of the plane. I'm going to reach over, 437 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,799 just kind of describe where everyone was sitting and the 438 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:55,559 bed area. Ransom, I don't remember if it was the 439 00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:57,839 back or the front. The front of the plane. I 440 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,839 think there was around there was like around bed. At 441 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,960 the back of the plane, there was seating. Pilots are there. 442 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,799 Redacted walked in with her Louis Vuitton handbag. She sat 443 00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:09,880 there in front of me at the side of the plane, 444 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,200 so there was seating there, Meninger, can you just write 445 00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:17,680 redacted next to that? To this, Ransom says, okay. Then 446 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,680 Meninger interrupts her, so I will remember later, Then Ransom 447 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,000 interrupts her. Redacted sat there when she first walked in, 448 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,839 and I remember her specifically with a Louis Vauton handbag 449 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,400 that she had a black one. Meninger, Okay, and where 450 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,279 were you sitting, Ransom? I was sitting opposite her, and 451 00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:39,640 then I think we changed positions or there was I 452 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,559 just remember at the front there was seating here, Okay, Meninger, Well, 453 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,920 where was redacted sitting? Ransom, I don't remember where she 454 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,680 was sitting. Meninger. Can you just put where the other 455 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,920 seats were if you don't remember who was in them, Ransom, 456 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,079 I remember there was seating here. I think there was. 457 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,000 I'm speculating here, but I can't remember if they were 458 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,000 sitting on the other side of the plane. I can't. 459 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,680 I just remember that I sat on a seat in 460 00:28:05,759 --> 00:28:09,400 the front of the plane and there were people opposite me. Meninger. 461 00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:11,559 When you say opposite, do you mean in the front 462 00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:13,720 and back of you, or are you saying to the 463 00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:18,279 sides Ransom in front of me? Meninger, okay, Ransom. So 464 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,400 it's like a seating Meninger. Is it one seat in 465 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,799 a row? Ransom. I can't remember the specific layout of 466 00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:27,599 the seating on the aircraft, but I know there's a 467 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,799 big fat round open there's a bed on the back 468 00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:35,440 of the plane. Meninger, okay, Ransom, which there is no doors, 469 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,599 so you can quite easily have sex and show the 470 00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:42,200 whole plane, which is how it's designed. I'm guessing Meninger, okay, Ransom, 471 00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:47,079 because there's no privacy around the bed. Meninger, I understand. 472 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,319 Can you just draw where the other seats are? Though 473 00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:54,119 mcaulay objection, asked and answered, Ransom, I don't remember where 474 00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:56,319 the other seats are. I remember me sitting in a 475 00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:59,240 specific airplane seat at the beginning, you know, at the 476 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,440 front of the plane. I don't remember the decor of 477 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,160 the plane. I remember there was a bed, it was open, 478 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,759 it was an open plan, Menager. Were there are bathrooms 479 00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:11,720 on the plane? Ransom? Yes? Menager? Where were they? Ransom? 480 00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:16,519 I can't remember where the bathrooms were located on the aircraft, Menager. 481 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,880 Do you know what kind of plane it was? Ransom? 482 00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:21,759 It was nice, big plane. Yeah, it was a plane, 483 00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:27,400 a plane, Menager. Had you been on a private plane before, Ransom? No? Menager. 484 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,319 Do you know how many people it carried? Ransom? I 485 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,160 just know it's a plane, Menager? Can we mark that? 486 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,160 Can you mark that as defendants? Exhibit one? Gurgis, have 487 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,480 you seen it before you want to market? Menager? It's 488 00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:42,440 really bad. Do you want me to redraw that? It's 489 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,759 really embarrassing. I'm not an artist or anything. It's really bad. 490 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,920 Mister Gergis just handed over defendants Exhibit one, hand drawn 491 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,119 picture marked for identification. Was there a kitchen on the 492 00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,400 plane that you recall, Menager? Ransom answers. I can't remember 493 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,720 any no, Menager. Was there an office area? Ransom? I 494 00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:07,400 can't remember the layout of the plane. I remember the bed. 495 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,920 The only thing I remember is the open plan bed 496 00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:15,880 where I watch redacted and Jeffrey have sex, Menager. Apart 497 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,920 from the Louis Vauton bag. Do you remember what redacted 498 00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:23,160 was wearing? Ransom. I just remember she had a black 499 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,759 Louis Vauton handbag, and I don't remember what she was wearing. No, 500 00:30:27,119 --> 00:30:29,599 but I remember the black handbag because I liked it 501 00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:32,240 so much. I bought the red colored version a few 502 00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:35,799 years later. It was really nice. All Right, folks, we're 503 00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:38,519 gonna wrap up this episode here, and in the next episode, 504 00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:41,400 we're gonna pick up where we left off. All of 505 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,240 the information that goes with this episode can be found 506 00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:45,680 in the description box.