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The views and opinions expressed in this 23 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,359 podcast are those of the guests and do not necessarily 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,519 reflect the views or positions of this show, its host, 25 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,680 or any of the companies they represent. Now today on 26 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:41,040 the show, we have Felice di Martino, and she is 27 00:01:41,079 --> 00:01:44,159 a near death experiencer who was hit by a truck 28 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,719 and then died and went to the other side and 29 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:51,200 what she saw is pretty remarkable. Can't wait to share 30 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,280 it with you, guys. Let's dive in. I like to 31 00:01:55,319 --> 00:01:57,280 welcome to the show, Felice de Martino. 32 00:01:57,319 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: How are you doing, Felice, great, Thank you so much, 33 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:01,000 so happy to be here. 34 00:02:01,519 --> 00:02:03,599 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show. My dear, 35 00:02:03,879 --> 00:02:08,080 I'm excited to talk to you about your spiritual experiences, 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,479 your near death experiences. There's a lot of stuff going 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,080 on in your life, and you've lived an interesting one 38 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,560 to say the least. So first question, of course, is 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,080 what was your life like before you had your near 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:18,800 death experience? 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,759 Speaker 2: So my life before my near death experience, I mean, 42 00:02:23,759 --> 00:02:27,000 that's a broad question. Right before my near death experience, 43 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,360 I had gone through several years of what I call 44 00:02:32,439 --> 00:02:36,840 resiliency boot camp. I have. I'm a mom, I was 45 00:02:36,879 --> 00:02:42,199 a single parent, and I had two teenage daughters at 46 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:45,319 the time, super loving, super supportive family. I had been 47 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,520 on this spiritual unfolding journey for many, many years, and 48 00:02:51,759 --> 00:02:55,000 up until the accident, I was a lot of things happen. 49 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:01,080 I'll focus there about a year and a half prior, 50 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,599 my then partner had an affair, my house had a fire. 51 00:03:10,439 --> 00:03:12,520 All of there was a theft in the house before 52 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,800 the fire, and all my jewelry got stolen. I had surgery. 53 00:03:17,159 --> 00:03:20,280 Once the fire, the whole top floor had to be gutted, 54 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:24,560 then the bottom floor had a flood. I took a 55 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,719 leave of absence from work. All of this stuff happened 56 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,240 like major any one of those things would be enough. 57 00:03:33,039 --> 00:03:35,319 So that's why I call it resiliency boot camp, because 58 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,280 it all happened at one time, and just as I 59 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:45,000 got back on my feet, it was about a year 60 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:48,840 and a half two years later, and I got hit 61 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,080 by a truck. Literally, as if I didn't feel like 62 00:03:52,159 --> 00:03:54,919 I had gotten hit by a truck with the fire, 63 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,439 with the theft, the affair that was really emotionally hard, 64 00:04:01,319 --> 00:04:03,800 that was at the time, the worst of all of it. 65 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,039 And yeah, that's so let's. 66 00:04:07,879 --> 00:04:09,639 Speaker 1: Dig in for a second before we get to your 67 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:12,800 to your getting hit by a truck. Literally, Uh, let's 68 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,839 literally what were you a spiritual? Were you grow growing 69 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,879 up in a religious background? Spiritual background? 70 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: So I grew up as Jewish and in there was 71 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:33,160 spirituality that when I graduated from high school and I 72 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:35,519 went off to university, and I always felt like there 73 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,920 was something more. From the time I was young, I 74 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,879 always felt like there was something more out there and 75 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,360 I could feel feelings. I was super empathic. And then 76 00:04:45,399 --> 00:04:47,759 I took off on a journey once I graduated from 77 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,160 college and I found myself living in an ashram. I 78 00:04:52,199 --> 00:04:58,120 found myself traveling in Central America, spending time with indigenous elders. 79 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,319 We uh the either of my children and I lived 80 00:05:01,319 --> 00:05:08,920 off the grid and were adopted basically by indigenous people 81 00:05:08,959 --> 00:05:14,399 to native by a Hope family there. So I had 82 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:19,240 been on this this kind of seeking spiritual path to 83 00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:22,600 find that something more, and I do want to share 84 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,240 you know what what ignited really ignited that in me. 85 00:05:26,399 --> 00:05:31,439 As I was at NYU and I took a class 86 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,800 on I took a philosophy class and the professor was 87 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,639 teaching about we had to read a book on Sufism. 88 00:05:39,519 --> 00:05:44,040 And when I read the Sufi story, Uh, there was 89 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:53,399 something that really ignited a remembrance in me and a 90 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:56,720 like hot there was something there, right, and then one 91 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,480 thing led to the next. I spent time with tik 92 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,480 not Han and that was a major another major turning 93 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:07,879 point for me. And living in amas ashram Mata unritten 94 00:06:07,959 --> 00:06:10,519 onto my in northern California. I mean, there's so yes, 95 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,680 So there was a lot of things. There was a 96 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,199 lot going on spiritually for me, and then I kind 97 00:06:16,199 --> 00:06:23,240 of had kids and but I then was living my life, 98 00:06:23,399 --> 00:06:24,600 you know. Yeah. 99 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,079 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this though, because this is 100 00:06:27,079 --> 00:06:30,199 something that I get asked about a lot. Is when 101 00:06:30,519 --> 00:06:32,240 it sounds like you were searching. So you were a 102 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,560 searcher without question and and for all, for lack of 103 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,040 a better term, you were doing things right. You were 104 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,519 trying to educate yourself, You're trying to experience new things. 105 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,160 You were trying to open yourself up to the universe, 106 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:46,839 open yourself up to new ideas. So you're a pretty 107 00:06:46,879 --> 00:06:50,680 open minded person and then yet you know, as they 108 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,199 always say, why does bad things happen to good people? 109 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:56,839 All of these elements started to happen, and like you said, 110 00:06:57,399 --> 00:06:59,319 any one of those things would have brought anybody to 111 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,920 their knees, but you just kept getting hit again and 112 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,480 again and again and again. So from your experience before 113 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,519 we get to the near death experience, but from your 114 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,279 experience just studying spirituality, what do you think the cause? 115 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,720 What was the universe trying to tell you with this 116 00:07:17,399 --> 00:07:21,680 hammering and just I mean, these are not paper cuts, 117 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:25,839 these are full blown losing of limbs with a broad 118 00:07:25,839 --> 00:07:28,279 sword kind of hits on you. Why do you think 119 00:07:28,279 --> 00:07:30,480 what was the purpose of that? From you? From your 120 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:31,319 point of view? 121 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,639 Speaker 2: Number One, it was a total identity reboot, right identity 122 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,000 as a homeowner, as a partner, as a mom. Oh, 123 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,319 I had become an empty nester too that time. That's time. 124 00:07:44,399 --> 00:07:47,879 So I was an empty nester. So in all ways, right, 125 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,720 I was teaching at a monastery school as a teacher, 126 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:54,040 my role in the world, like in all ways, I 127 00:07:54,199 --> 00:07:59,240 was catapulted into this loss of identity on the outside. 128 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:05,040 And the number the second thing I want to say 129 00:08:05,079 --> 00:08:08,480 is I kept saying it could be worse, and so 130 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,759 I'm putting out it could be worse in the universe. 131 00:08:10,879 --> 00:08:14,040 Is like, oh really, bam, here you go. So I 132 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,720 stopped saying it could be worse because you can have 133 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,240 you know, yes, and thank you have had enough. Thank 134 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:28,680 you've had enough. And I also there was something I 135 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:31,360 wasn't paying attention to. You know, I feel like we 136 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,639 there are things that we know that we know that 137 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,200 we know that we don't pay attention to. And when 138 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,240 we don't pay attention and come from an aligned place, 139 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:46,440 we open ourselves up for circumstances and things to happen 140 00:08:46,639 --> 00:08:49,360 in our life. And I see, you know, I see 141 00:08:49,399 --> 00:08:54,399 now why how all of that was for me of course, 142 00:08:55,159 --> 00:08:57,159 and how I got through it. And I think that's 143 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,960 important to share, right, Like how do we get through 144 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,799 the hard things when they happen, even when you are 145 00:09:04,919 --> 00:09:12,240 rooted into a spiritual way of being or spiritual beliefs, Like, 146 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,960 things happen and we're human and we're wired to have 147 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,840 certain reactions and responses. So I can share what got 148 00:09:20,879 --> 00:09:21,480 me through. 149 00:09:21,279 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: It, if that's yeah, well yeah, yeah, because I mean, 150 00:09:25,159 --> 00:09:28,360 like I said, all of those things are pretty heavy 151 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,360 experiences to have in a life. Any one of them. 152 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:34,000 And we haven't even gotten to being hit by a 153 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,200 truck yet. So there's that. So how did you Because 154 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,879 I know a lot of people listening, go are listening 155 00:09:40,879 --> 00:09:43,600 and have gone through stuff, they're going through stuff, they're 156 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,960 going to go through stuff. What was your technique to 157 00:09:47,039 --> 00:09:50,120 kind of get through all of that emotionally, spiritually, mentally. 158 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:52,759 Speaker 2: Well, there were times that I literally couldn't get out 159 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:55,720 of bed because it just kept on happening. I was like, right, 160 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,159 it just kept on happening and kept on happening, and 161 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,200 I still like there was something underneath that in this 162 00:10:04,039 --> 00:10:15,039 major cracking open, there's this when you're crying out for 163 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,840 some help, for some guidance to be shown the way. 164 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:26,039 Something I kept on returning to gratitude, gratitude, knowing, and service, 165 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:32,200 Knowing that if I could use my experiences to help 166 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,480 others people move through whatever arose is, if I could 167 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:41,360 use it in any way in service, it took the 168 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:44,639 edge off. That's number one. And the other thing was gratitude, 169 00:10:44,759 --> 00:10:47,200 Like even on those days that I could barely move, 170 00:10:48,519 --> 00:10:51,960 Gratitude that I heard the bird outside my window, Gratitude 171 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,840 someone smiled at me. You know, the smallest little things. 172 00:10:55,879 --> 00:10:59,840 And this was in two thousand and like mid two 173 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:03,879 almost twenty thirteen, like midw Yeah, in the fall of 174 00:11:03,879 --> 00:11:05,960 twenty twelve when it all started to happen. 175 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,519 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 176 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,399 and now back to the show. 177 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know now you know I mean, and 178 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,480 we'll get to my near death experience that all is 179 00:11:23,519 --> 00:11:26,120 truly well and all is happening. Whether you believe that 180 00:11:26,159 --> 00:11:31,799 things happen to you or for you, we can always say, 181 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:35,679 how is this for me? What can I do with 182 00:11:35,799 --> 00:11:38,399 this to be of service? How is this for me? 183 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,559 How is this for me? What can I use this for? 184 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,519 And that kind of brings us back to some semblance 185 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:51,759 of something greater than ourselves. 186 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: Exactly, And it's easy to look back upon things that 187 00:11:53,039 --> 00:11:55,639 happened to you and go, oh that makes sense, Oh 188 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,440 it's oh that was Thank god I had that happened 189 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,879 to me, you know, thank god I'm not with that 190 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,399 person anymore. Thank god, you know I needed to move anyway. 191 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,240 But when you're in you know, the crap, as they say, 192 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,200 it's very difficult to look at the bright side of 193 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,879 what is happening for you. So it's a lot easier 194 00:12:14,879 --> 00:12:17,720 to do it in post mortem if you will, than 195 00:12:17,799 --> 00:12:20,039 it is while it is happening. So I think that idea, 196 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:23,399 what what you use is gratitude. Gratitude does start to 197 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,399 c cleanse a lot of that stuff real radically. 198 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, getting out in nature. I started to exercise and 199 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,480 moving my body, moving it through physically because it is 200 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:37,039 it's the energetic, physical, emotional, mental. And I went through 201 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:43,000 a lot of different modalities of therapy and neuro feedback. 202 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,759 But when it was really bad at the depths of it, 203 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,360 you know, when you're crying out on the floor, is 204 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,960 again when that greatest cracking open to something in trust, 205 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,279 you know that this too shall pass. 206 00:12:57,879 --> 00:12:59,919 Speaker 1: Yes, and supporting. 207 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: Support, finding support. Yeah. 208 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: So so now that we've gone through that part of 209 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,399 your life, then all of a sudden, the universe is like, well, 210 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:14,159 she's not getting it. We've sent her a few hard knocks, 211 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,919 but we're going to have to cent her the ultimate 212 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,679 knock on the door, which is to kill you. So 213 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,559 tell us what happened on the day that led to 214 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,759 your near death experience. 215 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:28,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, So those knocks on the door, I call them 216 00:13:28,159 --> 00:13:32,639 dope slaps from the universe. I'm actually working on that 217 00:13:32,759 --> 00:13:35,200 book right now, and that's the whole section dope slaps 218 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,679 from the universe. So, as I mentioned, I had been 219 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:46,320 educational consultant and teaching in a Montessori school and I 220 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,679 was leaving work one day. I got to a corner. 221 00:13:49,799 --> 00:13:58,480 My car was parked off campus and I got to 222 00:13:58,759 --> 00:14:01,480 there was a light that I had a cross, so 223 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,320 I waited for the It was December second, twenty fifteen. 224 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,240 It was dusk, it was a little misty out, it 225 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,240 was unusually worn for that day. And I got to 226 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:15,759 the corner and prior to crossing the street, I had 227 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:18,080 been engaging with someone that I knew I shouldn't be 228 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,360 engaging with. So I put my phone away. It's like, 229 00:14:22,399 --> 00:14:25,039 you know, kind of in my head about all of that, 230 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,080 and I looked the light. I had the right of 231 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,320 way to cross, so I looked both ways. The car 232 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,159 stopped giving me the right of way. It's a busy interception, 233 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,279 and I proceeded to cross the street, and up from 234 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,399 behind me came can I say the make and model 235 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:48,639 also big anyway? Dodge Ram pickup truck came up from 236 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:51,279 behind me, and it turns out she was speeding to 237 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,519 because she was wanting to make a left hand turn 238 00:14:55,559 --> 00:14:58,559 before the oncoming car right she could go straight, so 239 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,960 she made a left and and hit me about three 240 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:08,679 quarters of the way across the crosswalk and propelled my 241 00:15:08,799 --> 00:15:15,519 body three and a half carlings from the crosswalk about 242 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:22,000 thirty feet in the air apparently, And that's what started 243 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:25,080 this journey. So when you got. 244 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:29,679 Speaker 1: That's the day. So when you got hit, I have 245 00:15:29,799 --> 00:15:31,759 to ask did you feel anything? 246 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,919 Speaker 2: No, what it felt like. It felt like a thud 247 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,000 on the right hand side of my body, and you know, 248 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,399 it's a big truck. 249 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: So it's oh, it is. 250 00:15:43,679 --> 00:15:46,759 Speaker 2: A good portion of the right hand side of my body. 251 00:15:46,919 --> 00:15:49,600 And I had a bag and I had a laptop 252 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,919 in the bag. I don't know if that that that steel, 253 00:15:54,279 --> 00:15:58,960 you know, whatever hurt right, it blocked some of it, 254 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:05,080 but it felt like a dull. I don't want to 255 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,039 say smack because it's more like a thud on the 256 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,639 right hand side of my body. And I whipped my 257 00:16:11,799 --> 00:16:15,120 head around, but it felt like I was whipping it 258 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:20,360 like times stopped. It felt very slow motion, and I 259 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,639 had the thought, something's not right, something's wrong. And it 260 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,919 turns out that was what was stuck in my neck 261 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,440 for a while, like my All of my practitioners couldn't 262 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,720 get to it until I replayed it, and that's what 263 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,759 was stuck. There was something's wrong, And once I realized that, 264 00:16:36,759 --> 00:16:39,360 that's a whole other conversation about healing and the body 265 00:16:39,399 --> 00:16:42,840 really does keep the score. So that's what it felt like. 266 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:43,679 It felt like a thud. 267 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,919 Speaker 1: So when you were being thrown in the air, at 268 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,759 what point did you leave your body? 269 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,799 Speaker 2: So what happened was I caught for a split second 270 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:57,039 a pair of eyes across the truck, across the hood 271 00:16:57,039 --> 00:17:01,000 of the truck, and the next thing, I was above 272 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,160 my body looking down at it. I was looking down 273 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,559 at the scene. I could see there was an expanse 274 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,400 I could see in three hundred and sixty degrees, yet 275 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,319 there was a it was like there was a spotlight below, 276 00:17:16,519 --> 00:17:20,640 and I was observing the scene. I saw my body 277 00:17:20,759 --> 00:17:23,359 lying on the right hand side with my head to 278 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:29,799 the left. There was I could feel the emotions of 279 00:17:29,839 --> 00:17:33,400 the people on the ground from above. Again, this is 280 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,480 all from above, So I'm watching this and there was 281 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:42,960 some disorientation getting my bearings, and there was a man 282 00:17:43,599 --> 00:17:47,119 and that jumped out of the car and he was directing. 283 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,319 He directed a woman to go. I saw the whole 284 00:17:49,319 --> 00:17:54,279 thing play out, directed someone to go stop the traffic. 285 00:17:54,559 --> 00:17:56,480 The woman who hit me said she had call nine 286 00:17:56,559 --> 00:18:00,359 one one, and I could feel the sheer terror as 287 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,279 my body was lying still and in my I was 288 00:18:03,599 --> 00:18:10,759 completely conscious, yet not in my body conscious, and an 289 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:15,279 assessing was taking place. And part of the assessment was 290 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,160 am I going to be able to go back there? 291 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,680 Back to that body? And after all that I had 292 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,039 just gone through? I really my kids were a big 293 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,640 draw for me, right like it wasn't so, so the 294 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,279 question was for me, am I going to be able 295 00:18:33,319 --> 00:18:35,440 to go back there? And there was a lot going on. 296 00:18:35,519 --> 00:18:37,559 There was a lot of internal organ damage, a lot 297 00:18:37,559 --> 00:18:40,079 of fractures. I had a cracked skull. I mean, there 298 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,079 was a lot happening. But from above the body looked 299 00:18:43,079 --> 00:18:47,119 in one piece, and I understood that I would be 300 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:53,519 able to go back. And once that kind of was that, 301 00:18:53,519 --> 00:18:57,200 that assessing started to take place. There was a sensation 302 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,200 of lifting higher and higher and higher, and this scene 303 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:00,960 below faded. 304 00:19:01,799 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: M where did you go? 305 00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: Well? As the scene below started to fade, I was 306 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:18,640 in a complete blackness. It was the blackest of black. 307 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,440 It's it's like we don't have a name for this. 308 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,640 This it's not even a color. We don't have a 309 00:19:24,759 --> 00:19:28,920 name for this. And it was an illuminated blackness. There 310 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:34,839 was like an illuminosity to the blackness, and it was 311 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,559 it felt like and and and on the way there, 312 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,559 it felt like at some point it's like there was 313 00:19:43,519 --> 00:19:47,799 as this energy and vitality of the body was diminishing, 314 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,880 that part of me that was existing was being energized 315 00:19:52,039 --> 00:19:57,680 and and having more life to it as the body 316 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:05,160 was shutting down. And in this blackness, it was merging 317 00:20:06,519 --> 00:20:14,319 with pure presence. There was no time, there was no space, 318 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:22,160 there was it was all space. It was simply being 319 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:30,839 merged in with this expanse. And there was no questions, 320 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,000 there was no wondering, there was no ego, there was 321 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:37,799 no me, there was no separateness. It was being merged 322 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,559 in completely with this blackness. And I was existing as that. 323 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:49,559 And that was the first thing that happened. Would you 324 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,519 like me to continue? 325 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean we're here for that. Yes, please continue, 326 00:20:55,559 --> 00:20:58,079 We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 327 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:02,960 and now back to the show. 328 00:21:05,319 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: And there was also this sense of there's no time. 329 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,960 Like I said, it's completely timeless it's completely expansive. It's 330 00:21:17,079 --> 00:21:22,160 completely all things and no thing at the same time. 331 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:30,960 There's no gender, there's no right wrong. It's simply existing 332 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,920 in pure presence. And it was also there was a 333 00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:44,960 quality to it that was very peaceful, very peaceful, very 334 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,160 I want to say loving, but that gives it makes 335 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,640 it something. It's like it contained everything, It contained. 336 00:21:52,279 --> 00:21:53,039 Speaker 3: All of it. 337 00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: At the same time it is it is exactly. And 338 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,240 then there was like a shift, a dimension almost, It's 339 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:08,039 like a shift. From that emerged this sense of floating. 340 00:22:08,279 --> 00:22:10,400 And I was floating and it felt like I was 341 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,160 in a cocoon. And there were others in cocoons and 342 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:20,039 I say others, yet they were also made up. We 343 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:28,599 were the same. Yet yet yet I was me. I'm 344 00:22:28,839 --> 00:22:31,960 aiming to give this words. And I was in a cocoon, 345 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,799 and there were others floating in the cocoon, and there 346 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,559 was a simpol of like huh. There was no fear. 347 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:46,519 There was simply again, simply being. And it felt super 348 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:53,079 nourishing and nurturing and warm. It's like being held in water, right, 349 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,680 It's like being in a floatation tank almost. You're just 350 00:22:55,799 --> 00:23:04,119 held in this nurturing, warm, loving space. And in that 351 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,400 place we call it thought. I'm going to call it 352 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,039 an energy packet because it felt like an energy packet 353 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,279 started to emerge, and there was a wondering, and the 354 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:22,480 wondering was a waiting started started to come with that 355 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,519 energy packet, and it was like, Aha, what am I 356 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:31,559 waiting for? Right? And as soon as the what am 357 00:23:31,559 --> 00:23:35,359 I waiting for? Culminated, that thought, that energy packet kind 358 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,920 of like culminated, it popped into a being met with 359 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,119 exactly what I was being waited for. And I found 360 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:52,759 myself in a completely bright, effulgent light, and the light 361 00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:57,000 was growing and growing, and there was a presence in 362 00:23:57,039 --> 00:23:59,559 the light that was other than my own, yet that 363 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,440 was all also made up of this light that was 364 00:24:02,519 --> 00:24:06,480 communing with me and there for me, and that it 365 00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:10,559 was just clearly understood. There wasn't a thought process as 366 00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:14,599 we know thought to be. It was clearly understood, and 367 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,319 this presence was there to communicate with me and share 368 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,079 with me and show me things and and for me. 369 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,960 And in an instant it was that presence. It's I say, 370 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,039 it was like you put your forehead, We put foreheads together, Alex, 371 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,279 and I knew everything about you and everything about your life, 372 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:39,559 all the multi faceted, multi dimensional aspects of your soul's 373 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,200 journey and the events that have occurred in your life. 374 00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:45,240 It was like that, and all of this information was 375 00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:49,759 transmitted that we say rapid speed, and again it's it's 376 00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:52,880 not time. There's no sense of time like time to be, 377 00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:56,680 and all of this information was completely downloaded uploaded. I 378 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:02,680 understood everything that my soul's journey had taken. I understood 379 00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:06,480 everything that was going on on earth in my life 380 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,519 in this lifetime at the time, and there was a 381 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:16,039 lot that was transmitted about my particular life and about 382 00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:21,680 being embodied as human. And at some point that started 383 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:27,839 to there was an energy that started to kind of amplify, 384 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,720 and there was an anticipation and there was a needed 385 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,240 like I needed to get back. There was an urgency 386 00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:36,799 that started to build that if I was going back, 387 00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:40,240 I needed to get back into the body. And right 388 00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:44,039 before I came back, I heard from this present that 389 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,160 was other than my own yet that I was also 390 00:25:46,279 --> 00:25:49,039 merged in with when you go back, it's time to 391 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,920 live big. So that was the that was a hearing. 392 00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:58,359 And right before I descended, as I'll say, right before 393 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,400 I descended, I asked this presence, who are you? And 394 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:11,440 I heard, I am you. So in the IMU, I 395 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,720 started to descend and I heard I was watching. At 396 00:26:16,759 --> 00:26:20,119 some point It's like I was there was like a 397 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,880 descending and I was watching below and I could also 398 00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:28,079 hear below. There were the EMTs were like calling to 399 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,079 me and speaking, and I could see it and also 400 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,759 hear it, and I was watching my mouth move but 401 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,200 from above. It was such a trippy experience because there 402 00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:41,440 was this physical form, but I wasn't really in it. 403 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,759 I was here yet it was all happening at the 404 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:48,359 same time. And as I started to come closer and 405 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,440 closer into the body, at some point, I felt like 406 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,519 I was being squeezed. It's like being a squeeze, a 407 00:26:56,559 --> 00:27:03,240 genie being squeezed into a bottle. And I was existing 408 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,000 as this expanse outside of my body, yet also feeling 409 00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:10,759 that being squeezed into the body at the same time, 410 00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:15,759 and I could hear the body yelping, and there's at 411 00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:18,160 that point it was a very like oh, that's yelping 412 00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:23,400 sounds coming from me. And in the ambulance I was 413 00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:27,079 I could see what was happening my head like they 414 00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:30,000 were trying to keep me there, and there was someone 415 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:31,960 at my head and I kept being out so I 416 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,119 could again it was now I know it as by 417 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:39,839 location where you could be in both places. And when 418 00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:45,720 I came more into consciousness, I was being taken into 419 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,400 the It was a level three trauma unit and there 420 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,160 was organized chaos, and it was a while. I mean 421 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,480 a lot of things have occurred. For a while, it 422 00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:57,880 was really hard for me to know where my body, 423 00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:03,519 where the boundaries of my body was, and where space 424 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,559 was and how I experience the world now. 425 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: So what's fascinating to me is that all those experiences 426 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:20,359 led up to this experience. It seems like the universe 427 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,880 was were you from your now now we can talk 428 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,039 about from your experience. On the other side, you weren't 429 00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:30,119 told specifically what was wrong or you didn't sell. We weren't 430 00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:35,400 told specifically how to fix it other than live big, 431 00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:37,599 so oh tell me please? 432 00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:41,759 Speaker 2: No, Actually I was. I was. Also I was shown 433 00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:45,720 a lot okay question or then yeah no, I heard 434 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:49,000 it's time to live big, and I understood based on 435 00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:51,839 what was shared with me, what that meant about ego, 436 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,640 about fear, about what it is. You know, we know 437 00:28:56,799 --> 00:29:00,599 what keeps us small, but understanding from a larger perspective 438 00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:04,079 what the soul carries through from lifetime to lifetime and 439 00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:10,160 imprints of that. And also all is truly well. I 440 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,720 heard all is truly well, and I was shown these 441 00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:25,720 pillars of all is truly well, which are forgiveness, gratitude, compassion, service, surrender, trust, love. 442 00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:32,839 So I was shown these pillars of practicing this while 443 00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:35,920 we're here in these bodies, to be able to access 444 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,000 and open up to these higher states of awareness of 445 00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:42,400 who we truly are as love, as expressions of love. 446 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,200 So I don't know if that's gonna. 447 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, so was there anything else? You didn't have a 448 00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:48,480 life review or anything like that. 449 00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:50,839 Speaker 2: On the other side, I want to say that my 450 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,440 what I would equate to a life review is an 451 00:29:54,559 --> 00:30:01,480 understanding of what was happening on earth and how my 452 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:10,680 how what was occurring on earth was related to what 453 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,799 was happening in the state of existence. So like, for example, 454 00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:18,720 you know, uh, when I came back this this the 455 00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:24,119 depths of forgiveness and understanding and compassion and and my 456 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,680 understanding of boundaries. 457 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 458 00:30:35,839 --> 00:30:37,119 and now back to the show. 459 00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: So I would say, my life review, you know, my 460 00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:44,599 life review was. That was what I would equate to 461 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,079 a life review for me. It wasn't like, oh, this 462 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,119 is you could see, I could see how you know, 463 00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:57,680 all of the actions have ripple effects out into the collective, 464 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,799 and you're able to experience things like I was able 465 00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:03,720 to experience the woman who hit me. I was able 466 00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:08,160 to experience what she was experiencing at that moment in 467 00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:13,039 time of this occurrence that I was a part of. 468 00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:18,640 But it wasn't a life I guess that's yeah. 469 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: You weren't in a room with a bunch of screens 470 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,519 at three point sixty and you weren't feeling everybody, but 471 00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:27,319 there was aspects of that that you kind of felt exactly. 472 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,759 So on the other side, they were kind of guiding 473 00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:33,039 you on, giving you a reason why you were here, 474 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,920 why this has happened to you, and what all these 475 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,200 other things that they were trying to do up and 476 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,079 to this near death experience to kind of reset you 477 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,640 in a sense. So you had really it was really 478 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,720 fascinating with me because you again were really open to 479 00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:52,519 the spiritual path, but yet you were on the wrong 480 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,119 path in other aspects of your life, which is what 481 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,559 they're saying, think big, So you were still thinking small 482 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,160 and there were other egos or other things like that 483 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,880 that you had to deal with to get you on 484 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,720 the right path that you needed to be on. Is 485 00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:06,960 that a fair statement or how do you? 486 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,799 Speaker 2: I think what a fair statement to say is? So 487 00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:14,680 for me, the living big was again that intuition, right, 488 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:17,599 I knew what I knew and I wasn't listening to 489 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,799 what to the inner knowing, right, I was making excuses. 490 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,160 I was letting the voice of the ego say no. 491 00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:30,839 And the live big was aligning that inner voice and 492 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,880 that inner life with the outer life to be in 493 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:39,000 total alignment and an embodied expression of our truth which 494 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:42,079 is connected with the divine and with love. And for 495 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,079 me also it was you know, I wanted to either 496 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,039 do more with the monassory world and education where I 497 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,960 really wanted to use all the experiences that I just 498 00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:56,599 had again in service to others, and I was really 499 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,759 being called to do that, and I wasn't doing either 500 00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,799 of those things right. So it's a live big like 501 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,039 when you go back, it's time to live big and 502 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,400 be on your dharmic path. 503 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: And yeah, you were being held you were holding yourself back. 504 00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: I was holding myself back, and I was also you know, 505 00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:17,160 I was also able to see. 506 00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:23,319 Speaker 3: How I had co created everything that had happened up 507 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,640 until that point, not in a shaming, blaming kind of way, 508 00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:31,759 but in a way that opens up spaciousness. 509 00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:35,319 Speaker 2: And I also Alex, this is this is really important? 510 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:41,079 Is I understood so much more when I came back 511 00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:44,720 about boundaries, because yes, we are spiritual beings having a 512 00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:48,839 temporary human experience, and we are also human beings having 513 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,200 a human experience. And when we go around and when 514 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,960 we treat everyone as the essence of who they truly 515 00:33:56,119 --> 00:34:04,000 are and as their potential to be that essence, we 516 00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:08,960 a lot of times we suffer or we go through 517 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,239 a lot of hardship in the face of that. So 518 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,159 it's possible to acknowledge the essence of who someone truly 519 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,119 is and pay attention to their being. You can have 520 00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:22,519 compassion for people from afar. You can you know, if 521 00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:26,639 it's not safe for you physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, energetically, 522 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,119 and genetically, boundaries, Boundaries are okay. Boundaries don't make us 523 00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:32,920 less spiritual, which. 524 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: Is absolutely I agree with that. 525 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,119 Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't I was a person that wasn't 526 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,679 having a lot of boundaries. So I learned to be 527 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,559 in the both end. 528 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: You know, Well, it seems like your your learning curve 529 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,000 got sped up quite quite a bit. 530 00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: Oh so you come back and the depths and the 531 00:34:53,320 --> 00:35:03,079 layer of forgiveness. Forgiveness is huge. Forgiveness is huge, forgiveness 532 00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:07,840 of self, forgiveness of others. Forgiveness is huge because forgiveness 533 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,320 also has to do with regret, and we don't want 534 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,039 to get to the end of our lives or get 535 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:17,960 to a place where you know where, which is it's 536 00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:20,840 like that denser energy when you're holding onto stuff. It 537 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,559 just keeps us held back, and it keeps someone else 538 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:25,639 held back too, But you know the whole. 539 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: So let me ask you then, when you came back 540 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,039 and you are healing and going through this, did you 541 00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:34,760 keep this information to yourself or did you come out 542 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,559 of the near death experience closet right away and started 543 00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:38,840 shouting it from the mountaintops. 544 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,159 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I was. You know, I was in rehab 545 00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:43,800 one day, and because I was in rehab, I had 546 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,920 visiting nurses, you know, I had a walk again and 547 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,199 talk again and do all these It was a pretty 548 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,400 long road to recovery. Yet I had just had this 549 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,239 blissful experience. And I want to say, I remember being 550 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,039 in rehab and I saw something. It was in the 551 00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:00,960 days of Earthlink, and something opped up on the side 552 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,519 and it was Anita Marjani sharing her experience with doctor 553 00:36:04,599 --> 00:36:08,719 Oz and I didn't know. Again, it was like at 554 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,960 this point, it's twenty sixteen, and she spoke. I was like, 555 00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:19,840 she's giving words to my experience, to what just happened. 556 00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:23,000 Just have to plug in my computer. She's given words 557 00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:27,519 to my experience, like and what happened. And that was wild. 558 00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:31,039 And it took a little while for me to give 559 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,360 language to what happened. And I have a very loving, 560 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:40,880 supportive family. So I was sharing bits and pieces. Yet 561 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:46,599 I was integration. I mean, I feel like integration. I'm 562 00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:51,760 still integrating, you know. And integration took a while because 563 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,079 I would walk around and I didn't know the boundaries 564 00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:57,519 between my body and the outside world, and I could 565 00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:02,880 hear things sins. I have a lot of activated extrasensory 566 00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:09,840 awarenesses that resulted from this experience. So making sense of 567 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,519 all of that. So I started to give language to 568 00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:15,920 it in bits and pieces, and for a while I 569 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,800 didn't watch anyone else's near or listen to anyone else's 570 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,320 near death experience because it was really important to me 571 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,880 to understand my own experience without being influenced. 572 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,639 Speaker 1: So when did you when you finally decided to go 573 00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:34,639 out publicly with this, How did your friend's family, colleagues 574 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,559 kind of react to this? Because it's like I always say, 575 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:40,880 this is a clearing of the room kind of conversation 576 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:41,800 for many people. 577 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the first time I went out and 578 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,119 shared it was right at the beginning of COVID, and 579 00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:54,800 it felt like the call to service again, like in 580 00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:00,199 any way that this information helped supports activates the remembering 581 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:07,360 of who we truly are, of our eternal nature, that 582 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,239 was more important than what people were going to look at. 583 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,159 I didn't it was like the live big It's like 584 00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:16,400 I couldn't not share at that point, and especially when 585 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,800 the world was coming face to face with mortality in 586 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:24,159 a whole new way. And my family's always been really supportive. 587 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,000 May not understand all the time, right, like, but it's 588 00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:31,760 like Felice doing her police thing, yet yet it's super supportive. 589 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,920 And actually, my dad passed a year and a half 590 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:40,719 ago and It was really helpful for my mom in 591 00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:44,039 in her grieving process. You know, I think for all 592 00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:47,800 of us, and you know, things shift and change in 593 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,960 friendships and relationships shift and change. And it's the again. 594 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,960 If we can be aligned with who we are on 595 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,800 the inside is who we are in the outside, so 596 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,679 that our inner world, our interfacing self, and our outer 597 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,119 facing self is in total alignment, then we're in integrity 598 00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:10,199 with ourselves. And I had to come back and do and. 599 00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 1: Be live big fair enough. So you mentioned a little 600 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,199 bit about the after effects. Can you talk a little 601 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,840 bit about the after effects of you and your death experience. 602 00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:24,159 Speaker 2: When I came back, I was really open. I was 603 00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:27,280 receiving a lot of guidance and a lot of information 604 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:33,639 and a lot of in You know, on the other side, 605 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,559 there's senses that we don't have name for, and there's 606 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,519 a way the senses all work together. So number one, 607 00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:45,880 I was hearing guidance and I was working with a 608 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,960 woman from Colombia, a medicine woman from Colombia, and she said, 609 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,519 ask who this is, And when I asked, I heard 610 00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:58,360 the word akasha. This was in twenty sixteen. It was 611 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,079 before like the akashak words became like a you know 612 00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:06,480 more kind of out in the public eye and known. 613 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,360 And there were so many cool correlations to that, like 614 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,480 like in the book. Every major religion that stems from 615 00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:19,840 a spiritual path has a book, right, and it's like, oh, 616 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,920 those are the records, right, And I was shown. So 617 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,199 when I heard Kasha and I looked it up, I 618 00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:29,119 mean maybe I had heard of it like a time, 619 00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:32,000 it wasn't in my common knowledge of vernacular. And I 620 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,880 looked it up and I was like, yes, that everything 621 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,920 resonated and then there was a frequency of light and. 622 00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:44,039 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 623 00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:48,960 and now back to the show. 624 00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:58,199 Speaker 2: Presence of this pure crystalline energy that runs in ourselves 625 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,519 that we can active eight and this presence that started 626 00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:05,760 to come to and through. So that's one thing. The 627 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,920 other thing is my clear audience is super hyper activated. 628 00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:15,960 I can hear flowers like I could hear a rose. 629 00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:20,360 I could hear things that are inaudible to the human ear. 630 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: How did you deal with that when you started getting 631 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,280 that information? 632 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,079 Speaker 2: I mean I didn't go out to my house for 633 00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:31,920 a while. I was like, okay, so I mean I 634 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,679 had a walker, I had a cane. You know, I 635 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,679 had visiting nurses in and out of my house for 636 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,280 many months, so I didn't have to go out, but 637 00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:42,119 you just I took a bunch of At some point 638 00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:46,280 I started to take some classes and certifications to help 639 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,559 me hone all of these new extra sensory awarenesses. Because 640 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:52,639 it's so big and when you're existing as the vastness, 641 00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:54,960 to have a way, it's like a funnel, to have 642 00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:58,880 a way to be a conduit through so that it 643 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,800 could be directed was really helpful. There's also this sense 644 00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:08,039 the clear cognizance, which is clear knowing, and there's also 645 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:18,079 the this way of precognition. Almost. It's like all these 646 00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:21,880 senses working together in invisible ways. And I I'm and 647 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,599 I'm still learning how to use it and how to 648 00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:27,880 share and how to help others activate it. Because you 649 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,880 don't need to have a near death experience to have 650 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,880 access to all of this right it's and that's part 651 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,000 of this great awakening and this remembering it's it is 652 00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:41,159 encoded in us, in our DNA and at a cellular level, 653 00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:44,280 I just happen to have a near death experience, so 654 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,320 you know, to be able to to guide people to 655 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:54,519 activate it, for themselves right has been something I've become 656 00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:57,400 really passionate about and being of service as a conduit. 657 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 1: Have you did you get a feeling on the other 658 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,840 side or since the other side, about what is happening 659 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,119 to us as a species right now as a consciousness, because, 660 00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:16,000 like you said twenty fifteen, a kashak wasn't really known 661 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,360 though it's been talked about for thousands of years from 662 00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:24,840 the Vedic text. But for whatever reason, these ideas this 663 00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:29,320 show more near death experiences. They're all seemed to be 664 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,760 bubbling up now to the surface. And you know, you know, 665 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,280 it's like near death experiences now, like don't go towards delight, 666 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,360 you know, that's part of our our zeitgeist and chant, yeah, 667 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,719 and chant and channeling is becoming a thing as far 668 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,840 as people understanding that concept of channeling flow state. These 669 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,719 are all things that are starting to bubble up that 670 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,320 weren't around a decade ago, really in the zeitgey says 671 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,320 they are today. Do you have any understanding of why 672 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,960 this is happening now to all of us? 673 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,119 Speaker 2: Yes? So number one, what I want to say is 674 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,880 this was written I can remember number one, So this 675 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,599 is a kind of I'm going to answer in a 676 00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:14,440 few ways. When I had come back and I was 677 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:20,199 receiving this information, I it's like there were frequencies in 678 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:25,960 the field that were knew that this was this major 679 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:34,039 rebirth was coming. And it's not like they were looking 680 00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:38,400 for teachers, but they were there. These energies were there too, 681 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,079 because when there was an opening, if there was an 682 00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:46,039 opening in someone's energy, to be able to meet that, 683 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:51,000 to encourage to support, if that makes sense Number one. 684 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:56,679 Number two, I think COVID really cracked open again that 685 00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:08,679 awareness of of waking up from spiritual amnesia. And and 686 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:14,000 what I'm shown is that the more people are resonating 687 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:20,119 at un and even curious, right, because curiosity breeds spaciousness, 688 00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:24,480 the more people are resonating at higher frequencies and opening 689 00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:31,440 up with curiosity even opening up the space the collective 690 00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:38,679 is growing and these higher frequencies are more accessible for 691 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,039 people to experience and be a match for. Because with channeling, 692 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,199 what I'm told and what I'm shown is that you 693 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,199 will be a conduit and a channel for whatever you 694 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,440 are a vibrational match for. That's what they show me, right, So. 695 00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:00,639 Speaker 1: Let me start there. For say, can you say they 696 00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:02,559 showed me. So let's talk a little bit about that, 697 00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:06,599 because yeah, I understand what you mean, but everybody listening 698 00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:08,000 is like, what is she talking about? So what do 699 00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:10,440 you mean? They show you? Are you have you become 700 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,039 a channel because of your inuit experience? Tell it. Talk 701 00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:13,800 a little bit about that. 702 00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's frequency and vibration, right, and it all 703 00:46:17,519 --> 00:46:21,880 ties in because when we can practice these gratitude forgiveness, 704 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,000 those pillars of all is well and get in an 705 00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:28,599 aligned state with to be a conduit of you know, 706 00:46:28,639 --> 00:46:31,199 it's energy. We're all energy and vibration. We know that. 707 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:38,320 And different emotional states and different impact our energetic resonance. 708 00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:40,159 It's like when someone walks in a room and they 709 00:46:40,199 --> 00:46:42,679 have a heavy vibe or a light vibe. Everyone knows that. 710 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,360 When I say they show me when I came back, 711 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:53,199 what occurred for me was this. It's like the there's 712 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,079 a part of me that was ejected from me, and 713 00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:58,559 when I came back in, more of who I truly 714 00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:05,639 am came back through me. And we all have the 715 00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:08,599 ability to get out of our minds. When we shut 716 00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:11,840 off our analytical thinking minds, and when we shut off 717 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,239 our brains and we shut off our you know, we 718 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,599 have the ego take a back seat and we enter 719 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:22,880 into the bigger than our body aspect of ourselves. We're 720 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:30,039 able to open up to dimensions and frequencies. That's our 721 00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:34,440 multi dimensional nature, right, that exists that we're not practiced 722 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:39,360 at being in communion with. So when we open up 723 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,920 to that, we can then be a condu It. For me, 724 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:48,760 it was these light beings, this frequency. It's a frequency 725 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:54,239 of light that comes to and through me, and they 726 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,800 show me how to activate it, they show me how 727 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,480 to share it, and everyone can have access to this 728 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:06,880 and through meditation, right, quieting the mind, meditation, breath work, 729 00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:11,440 being out in nature, shutting off our cell phones, shutting off, 730 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,960 turning down our social media, finding ways to return to 731 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:20,280 the self. Just sit quiet, right, moving our bodies, entering 732 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:26,960 into these flow states so that we can access this information. 733 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,599 Everyone has access to it. I don't I hope that 734 00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:31,800 answers the question. I know, it's like it does? 735 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 1: It does? It does? So you have now been able 736 00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:38,760 your channel if you will, you're conduit. The pipeline has 737 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,400 opened for you. 738 00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:40,159 Speaker 2: Peline. 739 00:48:40,639 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: Yes, is the information, so you can tap into information 740 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,920 that you weren't able to tap into prior to the 741 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,880 near death experience. 742 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 2: Correct, And I heard the word when I asked you 743 00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:52,719 this was it was a kasha and a kashi rya, 744 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,599 and a kashi raya is at this high frequency, and 745 00:48:56,639 --> 00:48:59,000 this is going to go a little out there. It's 746 00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:02,079 at this freak and see that. You know, people are 747 00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:04,840 so used to the seven chakras. For me, it's like 748 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,840 it goes to this higher and higher and higher chakras, 749 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,760 the theoric chakras, and it opens up into this whole 750 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:20,039 realm of source energy. And that's that's what comes through 751 00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:22,679 for me. You know, it's not really for me, that's 752 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,400 just what comes through to be shared and to and 753 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,360 again we all have this encoded in our cells. It's 754 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,920 like for me, it took a near death experience to 755 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,039 embody as more of who I truly am right, which 756 00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:40,000 is the essence of light, which is love. And this 757 00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:44,079 is encoded in our cell. That Christ did light, not 758 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,679 you know, Jesus the man, but that Christ did pure 759 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:53,400 crystalline light, you know. So yeah, and we can activate 760 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,079 it also through looking at the sun, through having the 761 00:49:56,119 --> 00:49:59,920 sun rays, through looking at the water, allowing the spark 762 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,400 on the water. 763 00:50:02,639 --> 00:50:05,639 Speaker 1: Almost like a meditative almost like a meditative state if 764 00:50:05,639 --> 00:50:09,280 you will. Yeah, what was the biggest takeaway you had 765 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,480 from you and your death experience? 766 00:50:11,519 --> 00:50:16,519 Speaker 2: That we are all here to be embodied expressions of 767 00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:21,039 love source, the Divine, whatever name you call, the god 768 00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:25,440 of the infinite intelligence of your understanding. We are here 769 00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:31,199 to be embodied expressions of that, to mirror that in 770 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:37,320 one another and the dharmic path. We each have unique 771 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,519 ways of doing that, and we are the divine knowing itself. 772 00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:44,639 We are love knowing itself and the individual part of 773 00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:49,280 that comes from our souls also have these kind of 774 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,280 journeys to come to to life, to learn to grow. 775 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:59,119 I mean, how remarkable that we are in human bodies. Truly, 776 00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:02,159 we are in human bodies. That's pretty cool, you know. 777 00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:04,039 And when you can look at another person in the 778 00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:07,320 eyes and see that divinity in them looking back at you, 779 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:08,840 We're all made of the same. 780 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 1: Stop. Yeah, we'll be right back after a word from 781 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:23,280 our sponsor and now back to the show. Now, I'm 782 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,480 gonna ask you a few questions. Ask all my guests, 783 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,440 what is your definition of living a fulfilled. 784 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:35,039 Speaker 2: Life, living with alignment with the voice of the soul, 785 00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:43,920 which is love, joy, relationship expression service. 786 00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:46,079 Speaker 1: If you had a chance to go back in time 787 00:51:46,119 --> 00:51:48,440 and talk to little Police, what advice would you give her? 788 00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 2: Don't worry so much about what other people think? 789 00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 1: How do you define God or Source? 790 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 2: Love? Is the first word that pops into mind, And 791 00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,599 I want to say, how do I define God Source? 792 00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:05,880 Who we are? All? What we are, all, who we be? 793 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,119 I am love? 794 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 1: And what is the ultimate purpose of life? 795 00:52:11,199 --> 00:52:16,039 Speaker 2: To be embodied expressions of love, of the divine of 796 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,559 Source knowing itself? 797 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: And where can people find out more about you and 798 00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:23,800 the work that you're doing in the world. 799 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 2: So my website is Grounded illumination dot com and my 800 00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:34,960 Instagram is Felice that little underscore? Is that what it's mean? Underscore? 801 00:52:35,079 --> 00:52:38,000 De Martina? And I'm also on Facebook. 802 00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, And do you have any parting messages for 803 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,400 the audience. 804 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:47,639 Speaker 2: To know that on some in the plane of existence, 805 00:52:47,679 --> 00:52:53,280 in the ultimate capital r reality, all is truly well, 806 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,760 even when it seems that you know, in our human 807 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:03,320 world and all isn't truly well. In the ultimate capital 808 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,920 our reality, all is truly well. And you are right 809 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,840 on time wherever you are in your life, whatever you're doing, 810 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,119 whoever you're being, whatever you're all this stuff you are 811 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,119 right on time, right here, right now. 812 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: Please, thank you so much for being on the show 813 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,639 and sharing your experience and wisdom with all of us. 814 00:53:23,679 --> 00:53:26,199 I truly appreciate you, my dear, Thank you. 815 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, Alex, thank you everyone. 816 00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: I want to thankfully so much for coming on the 817 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,000 show and sharing her story with all of us. If 818 00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:36,599 you want to get links to anything we spoke about 819 00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:38,800 in this episode, head over to the show notes at 820 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,519 Next levelsoul dot com forward slash three seven five. Now. 821 00:53:43,519 --> 00:53:47,000 If this conversation stirred something in you, there's more waiting. 822 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,840 You can listen to this episode completely commercial free on 823 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,239 Next Level Soul TV's app where Soul meets streaming. Watch 824 00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:00,440 and listen on Apple iOS, Android, Apple TV, Ruku, Android TV, Fire, 825 00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:05,719 tv l G, and Samsung apps anytime anywhere. Begin your 826 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,800 awakening at Next Levelsoul dot t V. Thank you so 827 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,159 much for listening. As I always say, trust the journey. 828 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,519 It's there to teach you. I'll see you next time.