WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:17.839 All right, everybody, tonight's episode of Wrestling Magic, we're just gonna 2 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:20.359 have a little bit of a conversation. So tonight, my 3 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:22.079 friend King Scully and I we're just going to talk 4 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:24.800 about things that don't really need to be in wrestling 5 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:27.640 anymore or just never needed to be there in general. 6 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:30.359 But you guys know how it is. So without further ado, 7 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:32.679 kink Scully, how you doing, man, how you've been. It's 8 00:00:32.679 --> 00:00:34.280 been a long time since I've heard your voice on 9 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:34.640 the show. 10 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:38.640 Yeah, I'm all good, Thank you, Thank you for coming 11 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:42.679 to me with this. It sounds like he'll be a 12 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:43.640 good little chot. 13 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:46.719 Oh yeah, definitely, man, And I couldn't think of anybody 14 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:50.920 better to have it with. But anyways, so starting off, 15 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:54.479 things that we don't really feel are needed in wrestling 16 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:59.200 anymore or just in general. So there's things in wrestling 17 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:02.039 that we might see it on a weekly basis at 18 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:04.359 this point, or maybe it's just been there for so long. 19 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:07.400 Nobody knows why it's there. Is there any examples that 20 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:09.280 you can think of that, you know, it's just kind 21 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:10.640 of not necessary. 22 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:15.840 One of the things that annoys me is just like 23 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:20.719 a nickname thing, but every time they come out and 24 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:23.560 they say. Michael Cole would say, I think they've stopped 25 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:25.599 it a bit now, but they put it in their 26 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:29.719 names on the name plates and that, like sef freking Rudins. 27 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:34.040 And remember when Dean Ambrose is the lunatic Fringe and 28 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:37.599 they just keep going on about that every time it's 29 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:41.319 the lunaficic Fringe and all that. It kind of got 30 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:44.239 too repetitive and annoying, if you know what I mean. 31 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:47.519 Yeah, yeah, I get that, because I mean, just say 32 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:49.200 who they are, what they're I get it if it's 33 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:52.879 like it's actually part of their name as the character 34 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:56.640 or whatever. But to do it just constantly, for you know, 35 00:01:56.879 --> 00:01:59.040 Dean Ambrose, you don't have to say it every time, 36 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:01.640 and especially Romans back before he was the tribal chief, 37 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:04.040 which constant he's the big dog and it's his yard. 38 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.560 Nobody cares. Man, just let us see the show. 39 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:09.960 Yeah, and there was one when they called see it 40 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:14.240 weren't so bad when they called Cane the big red machine. 41 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:17.360 That weren't so bad because they didn't do it all 42 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:22.479 the time. But there's a time was it Devil's favorite 43 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:26.680 demon or something? They kept saying, yeah, like that, and 44 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:27.680 it's just like. 45 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:32.199 Yeah, I feel that that's one thing that we can 46 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:35.560 definitely say it's just not really necessary or needed. And 47 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:38.120 it makes sense when it's the character's name, like the Boogeyman, 48 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:41.319 all right, that's his name for the character, Like that's 49 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:43.879 all you see him as the Undertaker, that's just who 50 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:46.039 he is. And I guess it's one thing when they 51 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:50.199 say demon Balor or anything like that, because I mean, 52 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:52.639 that's another part of the character and it's a specific 53 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:55.400 character that he's playing. Within the character, it's like his 54 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:57.199 alter ego or something, or Will of the Wisp as 55 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:59.800 Jeff Hardy used to be at times. So it makes 56 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:03.199 sense when it's the full character, but not when it's just, oh, yeah, 57 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:06.240 it's Jeff Hardy. I don't need to call on that. 58 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:12.159 Yeah, exactly. It's just a bit like it's frustrating because 59 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:15.360 it's just they say it too many times. You don't 60 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:17.800 mind them seeing it now and again, but you don't 61 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:20.280 need to hear it a million times in one match, 62 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:21.039 if you go with me. 63 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:23.599 Yeah, I agree with that. It's one thing when it's 64 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:25.360 like at the very beginning of the match, while they're 65 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:27.680 introducing them or whatever they come out, they say the 66 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:31.960 name you know, hey, it's the Lunatic Fringe Dean Bros. Okay, cool, 67 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:34.439 gave them the nickname whatever. But then after that you 68 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:36.439 don't have to say it again for a while. Just 69 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:38.840 wait till the end of the match if that, you know. 70 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:44.000 But moving on to sorry, what was that? 71 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:49.080 Well, there's one thing now you can choose one, all right. 72 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:52.400 So something that I personally don't really see the point 73 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:55.159 in and I never really have. I'm going to say, 74 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:59.120 the WWE draft. And I get it that this was 75 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:04.400 probably created at some point when Vince or whatever executive decided, Hey, 76 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:07.759 you know, we want to seem like a real professional league. 77 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:10.759 We want to have a draft just like the NBA does, 78 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:13.719 just like the NFL does, just like MLB does you know, 79 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:16.879 major League Baseball? And they probably just wanted to kind 80 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:19.639 of ride the bandwagon and say, hey, yeah, we're professional 81 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:21.639 sports league too. Look we have a draft just like 82 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:25.160 they do. And it's not really necessary, Like I can 83 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:28.199 understand if they were specifically to be like, Okay, we're 84 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:30.879 only going to show the NXT guys that are coming 85 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:32.439 up or the new up and comers, and we're going 86 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:34.959 to show a draft for which show they're going to 87 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:37.959 that to me would be okay, because then it's like, Okay, 88 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:40.199 you're showing where the up and comers are going. Just 89 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.360 like with how the draft is for the NFL, it's like, okay, 90 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:46.360 what team is picking these college athletes and where are 91 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:49.480 they going next? It makes sense for that, But for 92 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:52.639 the WWE Draft, it's just it's the guys who are 93 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:54.680 already on the main roster for the most part going 94 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.279 to different shows. And does anybody even pay attention to 95 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:01.279 who's on what roster? Does that even? Like, does anybody 96 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:04.040 care about that? They switch it every week? For what? 97 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:05.639 It seems like? What do you think? Man? 98 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:10.160 Yeah, exactly that Like one minute, Seth run into his 99 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:13.319 raw den He's on Smacked Down, And I don't know 100 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:16.600 the remains on war Denni's on SmackDown? Which one are 101 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:18.600 they on? Do you know what I mean? What was 102 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:20.800 what's the point of having it if then everyone on 103 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:24.680 the same show anyway? And what is the point as 104 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:29.240 well of having two Wow? This is probably I should 105 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:31.600 probably wait for this bit, but it kind of comes 106 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:35.040 into the draft because what is the point of having 107 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:39.079 two heavyweight titles if both champions can go on any 108 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:39.720 show anyway? 109 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:42.000 I agree with that, And I was gonna say the 110 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:46.319 one thing that I feel like does stay uh continuous 111 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:48.279 no matter what is they do kind of keep the 112 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:51.959 title separated. Like I believe that the US title stays 113 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:54.560 on Raw if I remember correctly, and I believe the 114 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:56.879 Intercontinental title stays all Smacked, and I might have those switch, 115 00:05:56.920 --> 00:05:58.920 but you know what I mean, like they stay to 116 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:01.639 those shows. The champions can go wherever they want, but 117 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:03.759 it seems like those titles will stick to those shows, 118 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:07.199 and that's their mid card title, and I get it, 119 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:11.480 but is it really that big of a deal and 120 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:14.000 does anybody really pay that much attention to the Roster'd 121 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:16.639 be like, oh wow, Kovie Kingston made the jump again, 122 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:20.439 does anybody really care? And why would anybody care? It's 123 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:24.240 one brand that has two different shows. The rosters aren't 124 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:27.920 all that. It's not really something that needs to be separated. 125 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:31.480 It's a TV show. It's not anything insane to me. 126 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:32.040 What do you think? 127 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:36.720 Man? Did you just drop something? 128 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:39.680 Yeah? I did, unfortunately, Sorry about that. 129 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:47.519 That's all right? So yeah, Like I guess that the 130 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:49.600 reason that might do it as well is so they 131 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:54.240 could get the exposure of certain superstars in matches on 132 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:58.959 each show. So like if they're going to be on SmackDown, 133 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:02.959 which at LA night, for example, he's currently on SmackDown, 134 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:07.040 he's the US Champion, he's where he's fighting on SmackDown, 135 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:11.360 you don't see him one more. So all these matches 136 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:14.639 are going to be on SmackDown, which means he gets 137 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:19.839 seen on the show, where if he was on both, 138 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:24.199 you might not see him as much, if that makes sense. Yeah, 139 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:27.160 I can see what you mean it might be because 140 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.800 would you think, do you think the roster's quite big? 141 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:34.680 Would you say, oh, yeah, definitely for WWE right now, 142 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:38.519 it's definitely a larger roster than well concidering they also 143 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:42.680 have three different shows, including NXT being their developmental Yeah, 144 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:44.839 i'd say it's definitely a larger roster right now. 145 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:47.720 Yeah, it's quite big one in it. And then you've 146 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:50.800 got all like the legends and now you come in 147 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:57.959 now and again in the background. So I guess you 148 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.120 can kind of see why they have it. But when 149 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:07.079 they don't actually stick to their own rules, it's a 150 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:08.160 bit pointless. 151 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:11.800 Exactly what is the point of having these rules if 152 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:15.759 it's just not going to stick. I mean, there's no 153 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:18.800 point in it at all. But all right, I digress 154 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:22.920 anything else on it, Bud. 155 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:23.000 Not on the draft. 156 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:27.800 Now, okay, what's next for you? Bud? 157 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:34.679 The next thing? I guess this is more to do 158 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:41.559 with the most recent and that is the theme songs. Okay, 159 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:44.720 so what annoys me and I think what is the 160 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:48.039 point is how many times does someone have to change 161 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:51.240 the theme song? Like I think Damian Priest has had 162 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:57.200 about twenty different versions of the same tune, so surely 163 00:08:57.240 --> 00:09:00.320 they should test it before they release it, and then 164 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:03.440 you stick with that one for so long. But I'm 165 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:06.000 sure since he left the Judgment day he's had like 166 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:10.399 a few different versions of it, like they've tweaked it, 167 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:13.519 and I think even the Rock they've tweaked tears a 168 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:17.159 few times, and they've like recently, I mean not like 169 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:21.320 over the years, which is fine, but recently he'd have 170 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:25.879 one feet the Rock would have Summit on SummerSlam, and 171 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:27.919 then the next time you see him it's a bit different, 172 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:29.679 and it's like, how many times did they have to 173 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:32.879 change the version of it? What is the point? 174 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:35.600 Yeah? I guess I could see that, and I think 175 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:37.840 the only way that I could justify it for the 176 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:40.320 Rock is maybe because he has kind of gone through 177 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:43.519 a heel turn since the first time he came back 178 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:45.840 a couple of years ago and getting involved with the 179 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:49.519 bloodline and everything. I feel like it changed sometime in there. 180 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:52.440 I don't know. It is kind of interesting to see 181 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:54.559 how often these guys have changed their songs recently. 182 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:58.759 Yeah, it's not so much like changing the song, but 183 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:02.159 it's just the same song, but so and then the 184 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:05.840 week late it'll be a bit different, Like bron Breaker 185 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:09.600 he had, so the song, the theme song he's got 186 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:13.000 now has actually got like words in it, like someone 187 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:16.720 singing lyrics to the tune that he had before, which 188 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:20.279 is fine, you don't mind that because they're but like 189 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:26.000 some of the songs as well, the music is so 190 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.120 genuine now now it's not like when Jim Johnston done it. 191 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:33.440 Who he made loads of class theme songs, but now 192 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:35.000 they're all a bit crap, do you know. 193 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:38.159 Yeah, hearing a shout out to Jim Johnston. You know, 194 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:40.879 he made some really great theme songs back in the day. 195 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:43.320 They were just iconic. When I hear glass shatter. Nowadays 196 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:45.720 I immediately think stone cold when I hear a bell 197 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:49.480 toll Undertaker, and it's insane how well that he just 198 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.919 put these things together. He really was an artist at 199 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:57.080 his craft. And uh yeah, I've heard apparently recently that 200 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:00.399 he has reached out and basically told aw hey, he'd 201 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:02.399 be fine with coming in and making some stuff, and 202 00:11:02.440 --> 00:11:06.200 also has opened up the door for WWE like, hey, 203 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:08.399 I can make some more stuff you guys want, which 204 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:11.759 all for it if they're going to allow it. I 205 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:15.000 would love to have Jim Johnston's old themes coming through 206 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:16.559 and his old magic coming back, you know. 207 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:21.080 Yeah, definitely, like he actually took time to look at 208 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:24.960 the character and write like a song that would suit 209 00:11:25.039 --> 00:11:27.919 them and that would stick with them, So it's okay, 210 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.639 Like with sure Michaels saying so he probably had three 211 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:35.679 or four versions of his Sexy Boy theme, I know, 212 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:39.919 like Sensational Cherry sang get Out one point and all that, 213 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:43.320 which is fine because it's the same song. It's just 214 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:48.600 changed over Like when Sensational Cherry she left, like they 215 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:52.039 split up, so she's not going to sing the theme 216 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.120 song any more, if you get what meat. 217 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:56.919 Yeah, and that's fair, And like you brought up with 218 00:11:57.120 --> 00:12:00.559 some of these stars and not keeping the same song 219 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:02.320 or at least a similar one. Do you remember when 220 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:04.519 Big show turned heel and then they made his a 221 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:06.159 little bit more sinister and slower. 222 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:08.360 Yeah, yeah, I do remember that. 223 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:10.720 Yeah, yeah, I saw something about that the other day 224 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:12.840 and that did just come to mind, Like it's the 225 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:14.879 same song. They kept it relatively the same, but they 226 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:17.679 changed it for a reason. At that point, it was like, hey, 227 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:19.679 they don't want it to be as upbeat. It's now 228 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:21.159 he's a heel. It has to be a little bit 229 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:24.320 more menacing. It needs to be yeah, menacing and aggressive. 230 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:25.919 That's the way that I would put it. But other 231 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:29.120 than that, yeah, man, I kind of think back to 232 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:34.559 Caine and Undertaker because like their themes. Besides, when Undertaker 233 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:37.440 is the American badass, which totally fair, it's a different 234 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:39.279 character at that point at least that's how it feels 235 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.000 to me. But it feels like their's lasted for like 236 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:46.200 twenty something years, you know, especially Caines, because he was 237 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.919 always just the demon. It was always that organ sound 238 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:53.279 and seeing fire everywhere. That's Cain's thing, and it worked 239 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:53.720 for him, you know. 240 00:12:54.679 --> 00:13:00.080 To be fair, his f defersion, he's gott with the 241 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:05.840 is it slow chemical? Yeah? That that's an amazing theme song. 242 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:08.480 Oh yeah, I hear you. Man, I really enjoy it too. 243 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:12.120 Yeah. Yeah, So like that, there's certain theme songs that 244 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.600 like this. This is where I'm trying to get at 245 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:21.159 with this is there's certain theme songs from years ago, 246 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:29.240 like that one or Shameless is old one. There's loads 247 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:34.639 of theme songs, even Drew McIntyre's old one. That's a 248 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:36.960 brilliant one as well, like the old one. 249 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.360 Oh, the one by Shaman's Harvest, I know what you're 250 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:39.720 talking about. 251 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.440 Yeah, yeah, that one. And they're a really good band 252 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:47.639 as well. But yeah, all those good ones that they 253 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:49.600 stick in your head and you could just play them 254 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:54.000 because you like them or like Randy Orton's voices or whatever, 255 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:57.720 because they're decent tunes, or even all the Triple H 256 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:02.279 songs have been good, even especially the ones by Motorhead 257 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:05.519 or whatever. But like nowadays, I just think they're all 258 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:08.559 a bit generic. I think Death Rebel do them now 259 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:13.080 or whatever they're called. But it's just not nothing really 260 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:18.159 sticks out. Really. They're all a bit like Cody Road 261 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:21.039 song for example, it was nothing to do with them? 262 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:23.440 Was it? He had that in AW? Didn't it? 263 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:26.320 I believe he did. It's been a while stop watching 264 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:28.440 the AW footage, but I think it was the same. 265 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:33.799 Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was because the band do 266 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:36.519 sing that song are the ones that used to do 267 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:39.000 like Dolph Zigler's song, and I think they did, like 268 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:41.679 the Midses song and stuff like that. 269 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:45.639 I could see that, and I mean, thinking back on it, 270 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:50.200 there's so many iconic ones from the past and going 271 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:51.960 into the future. I'm a little nervous to see because, 272 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:53.840 like you're talking about, it is pretty generic now and 273 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:56.679 it is a little embarrassing because you know, something that 274 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:00.840 I've realized is I don't like when the merch for 275 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:04.039 wrestling and the stuff for wrestling just screams this is 276 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:07.960 specifically wrestling. Like if it's a song that sounds good 277 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:12.879 outside of a wrestling situation, like voices like I can 278 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:14.720 probably go to the gym and start lifting to that 279 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:17.600 and I'm not going to have any problems. But if 280 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:21.960 I'm listening to I don't know, like Dan Hausen's theme song, 281 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:23.799 if you ever heard that one, I'm not going to 282 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:26.240 be into that. Man, it sounds weird and he's not 283 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:28.559 w w necessarily, And you know, I want to say 284 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:31.039 this is more of just wrestling in general, but yeah, 285 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:34.320 generic themes really not a good thing to have, So yeah, 286 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:36.799 I totally agree with that, and I think I did 287 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:38.639 okay at times, but yeah. 288 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:41.879 Yeah, you could even have like even instrumental music, like 289 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:46.720 look how good Gang Grel's theme song is or gold 290 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:50.879 Dusts was pretty good as well, Like even if it's 291 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:55.360 just instrumentally, then I often necessarily have singing or words 292 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:58.320 in it, but like now they just sound like someone's 293 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:01.879 just can't be and just put it together. 294 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:05.759 Yeah, I agree with that, and somebody that I would 295 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:08.480 also put in that category. Since Gay Nakamora his theme 296 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:10.679 where it's kind of a I believe it's called The 297 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:14.039 Rising Sun by CFO, very nice sounding, and I can 298 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.840 listen to that outside of just watching wrestling, and it's 299 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:19.440 not bad. Honestly, I really enjoyed the sound of it. 300 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:21.720 It's calming at times, but then it gets intense and 301 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:22.759 it's cool, you know. 302 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:26.399 Yeah, they've tweaked that one a few times, which is 303 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:30.480 fine light even as his current character. It's fine lights. 304 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:37.320 They're not necessarily unsuccessful with some of them, but majority 305 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:41.840 aren't ones like you've got like Seth Wallin's theme song, 306 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:45.600 which is just a sing along and it Yeah, then 307 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:52.120 Jay Ushow's theme song which obviously the fans go up 308 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:54.879 to that and it suits his character, but it is 309 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:59.039 annoying because he takes twenty minutes to get get in 310 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:01.000 the ring because of what he's yea. 311 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:05.799 In the yeating thing. Man, it's funny how much the 312 00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:07.720 gardener hates that, but it does make me laugh a 313 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:10.119 little bit. I think there's some things in wrestling that 314 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:12.440 are just for the fans. It's not really for the 315 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:15.440 wrestlers at times, because you know, like when Orange Cassidy 316 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:17.279 used to do like keep his hands in the pockets 317 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:18.960 and just like kick at the shins and the fans 318 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:21.200 would go nuts over it. Some things are just for 319 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:23.079 the fans to make them laugh and they love it. 320 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:24.920 So just give it to him once in a while. 321 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:26.279 Yeah, definitely. 322 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:30.319 But all right, So moving on something else that I 323 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.680 think we even talked about this at one point, contract 324 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:37.359 signings for title matches. Why it feels like it's such 325 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:40.160 a filler moment, you know what I mean. It just 326 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:43.279 doesn't feel authentic at all. It feels like, Okay, we 327 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:45.279 have a time slot here, we know there's a title 328 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:46.880 match coming up. What can we do to fill the 329 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:49.079 time slot that we have nothing planned for? Oh? Why 330 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:52.279 don't we throw in a you know, contract signing. Do 331 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:54.640 you really think any of that has ever been like 332 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:58.079 taken serious? Does anybody actually care about it? Because whenever 333 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:01.079 I've seen elimination chamber or anything like that where it 334 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:04.480 actually includes the title, I've never seen. All Right, everybody 335 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:06.079 please sit down to this table. We're all going to 336 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:08.799 sign over here. All right, everybody please initial by line six. 337 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.559 Nobody's doing that. It's not serious. And I get it, 338 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:15.000 it's wrestling, but to an extent, I want it to 339 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:17.880 be somewhat realistic. If you're in this league already, shouldn't 340 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:20.720 you just be already prepared to go in and fight 341 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:22.200 for the title. Why do you have to sign a 342 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:24.720 contract over? And why don't they always do it? It 343 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.960 seems like it's very situational where it's like, oh, yeah, 344 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:29.880 we just need a time slot field, let's throw in 345 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:33.119 another one of these contract signings that isn't really necessary. 346 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:36.960 We don't always do it. They don't. They don't keep 347 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:39.480 it consistent, and that's what's annoying to me. What about you, man, 348 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:39.960 what do you think? 349 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:44.160 Yeah? I get I was wondering why you were saying that. 350 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:47.160 I wonder if you know, like their little folder thing 351 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:50.680 and it's got their clip peopboard with and they flip 352 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:53.440 it over and it's got the vitt and finger and 353 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:56.839 they sign it. What does it actually sound it someone 354 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:00.640 took their time to write some up for nothing just 355 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:03.000 because no one's going to read it. It's not like 356 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:04.400 a proper document, is it. 357 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:07.319 It's just what is the point exactly? I can only 358 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:09.920 imagine that do they have an actual legal team going 359 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:13.920 over this? Yes, this is a legal and binding contract 360 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:18.599 that means absolutely nothing like that care And I wonder 361 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:20.160 what's actually on there? Do you think it's maybe just 362 00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:21.400 a bunch of jokes or something. 363 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:24.119 I know, that's what I mean. And they got a 364 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:27.039 few pages as well. It's not just like one page, 365 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:29.480 so what the how did they need to write on 366 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:30.599 an ordeo of pages? 367 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:32.440 Yeah? 368 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:36.359 I hear that, and like terms and conditions of what 369 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:40.079 it's a vesting much it's scripted? Do you know what mean? 370 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:43.519 Yeah? Exactly it. It just seems kind of useless to me, 371 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:45.839 And I get it. Maybe you want intense segment from it, 372 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:49.119 but it just seems like a type of segment that 373 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:51.759 isn't necessary. And I really have never cared for it. 374 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:52.279 What about you? 375 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:56.400 Yeah. I think it's a bit stupid as well. And 376 00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:59.960 they always have someone, always a text of a person, 377 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:03.039 and don't they And you can always see what's going 378 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:06.480 to happen anyway, And the table that they sign it 379 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:08.599 on't always seems someone goes through it. 380 00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:11.720 You know, You're right, it's kind of funny to think 381 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:15.559 about that. They're not very good at this whole legal thing. 382 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:18.000 You know, they can't ever just sit down and sign 383 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:19.480 the contract like normal people. 384 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:19.640 Know. 385 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:22.519 They have to attack each other. It's every single time, 386 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:27.480 you know. But it's a little redundant at this point, 387 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:31.200 and I really see no point in constantly bringing this back. 388 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:33.640 I mean, there's other things that they could bring back 389 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:36.880 that would be so much worse. But realistically, that's one 390 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:38.640 of those for me. Like can you imagine if they 391 00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:40.480 brought back TUXI doo't matches more often? 392 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:41.359 Oh? Yeah? 393 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:42.920 God? 394 00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:47.640 As well when you say, like with the contract signings, 395 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:52.839 like so I'm I'm facing Van Deora next week, Yeah, 396 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:58.480 and the winner faces Cody Roads for the title. Yeah, 397 00:20:58.519 --> 00:21:01.480 and I beat Vandel I've won. Why do I have 398 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:06.319 to sign the contract facing Cody Boats avoided one exactly? 399 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:09.880 It seems so strange and do you think they have 400 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:12.079 to sign anything for the money in the bank contract? 401 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:18.799 Well, what's actually in the contract exactly? What's in your 402 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:20.640 lunch box? Some sandwiches? 403 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:26.079 Okay, otis, But I see where you're going with that. 404 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:27.880 But yeah, it's always weird to think about. Does the 405 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:29.680 champion have to sign as well? Did he sign it 406 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:32.000 before the ladder match ever happened? And if the championship 407 00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:33.960 changes hands in between, does he have to go and 408 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:38.119 sign the money in the bank contract as well? For 409 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:40.079 whoever is going to be able to challenge him at 410 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:40.519 some point? 411 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:44.559 Where does this go exactly? And why did they have 412 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:47.319 to bring it out every time they have a match. 413 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:49.880 I know it's to show that they're the money in 414 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:52.839 the bank, but surely you'd want to keep it to 415 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:55.640 yourself in the back so the champion forgets that you've 416 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:55.920 got it. 417 00:21:57.119 --> 00:21:59.559 Yeah, I hear that too. I mean I remember I 418 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:01.440 want to say, mis had it for like a year 419 00:22:01.480 --> 00:22:03.960 and it was just constant Okay, he's cashing it. Oh no, 420 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:06.240 he's not run back, and it's like, can we get 421 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:10.880 past this? It was becoming so predictable every week, And yeah, 422 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:12.960 I know, if the gardner was here, he'd be saying 423 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:15.480 we can do without money in the bank matches and 424 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:18.160 stuff like that. But you know, that's more his opinion 425 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:19.960 than mine. I think it adds a little bit of chaos. 426 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:23.599 What about you, man, Yeah, it definitely adds chaos. The 427 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:25.359 match itself is pretty good there. 428 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:29.720 Yeah, I agree with that. I enjoy it personally, and 429 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:32.359 you know, to each their own, and that's kind of 430 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:34.799 what's nice about wrestling, magic and just wrestling in general 431 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:37.000 is other people are gonna have different opinions and it's cool. 432 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:37.880 There's no problem with that. 433 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:41.480 Yeah. I just think like the match is normally full 434 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:46.839 of like really good spots, and normally you have someone 435 00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:51.640 going through ladders or tables and it's they're quite enjoyable 436 00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:57.119 to watch. But on the same thing, is the briefcase 437 00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:00.440 is a good thing. Why can't you just speak number 438 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:01.799 one contend or whatever. 439 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:05.279 Yeah. I could kind of see that, and it is 440 00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:07.279 a little bit annoying in some ways, like it is 441 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:09.599 kind of cutting the line. But to me, it just 442 00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:12.359 kind of means that whoever gets it, they are able 443 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:14.880 to at any point add that little bit of chaos, 444 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:17.720 and there's always that question of are they cashing in tonight? 445 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:21.079 You never know and that's what's good about it for TV, 446 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:23.720 but also it can be annoying in the sense of 447 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:27.160 the competition that we are trying to see it as 448 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:27.400 you know. 449 00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:30.519 Yeah, I got to admit some of the cashis have 450 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:35.880 being enjoyable there, like like Seth Wallin's one, oh yeah, 451 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:40.680 quite a good one and Dolf Zigler's one the poppy 452 00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:44.640 got when he cushed in on Alba del Wo. 453 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:47.920 But yeah, and then I want to say, wasn't it 454 00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:50.480 the first one where Edge came out on Sena with it? 455 00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:53.680 And then you just hear Vince McMahon, this person is 456 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:55.759 cashing in their money in the bank contract right now, 457 00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:57.160 and then you see him walking in a scene as 458 00:23:57.200 --> 00:23:58.920 like bleeding out of his face and everything. 459 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:04.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they are enjoyable to see 460 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:09.079 the costumes to be fair, So I guess we're kind 461 00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:10.599 of in the middle or not. 462 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:14.440 Yeah, if they coordinate it well and they know what 463 00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:16.599 they're doing, it's great. But who is the guy who 464 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:19.000 challenged for like the Intercontinental Championship or something with it? 465 00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:21.279 That just made me question, like why would you go 466 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:23.079 for a mid card title with that you have a 467 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:25.319 chance to go for gold and you're choosing silver. 468 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.200 Yeah, that's a stupid thing. Why would you do that? 469 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.880 Yeah, I still don't get that, but you know it's 470 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:35.640 whatever that's in the past. They haven't done it since, 471 00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:38.240 so I'll give them that credit at least. But yeah, 472 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:39.880 I think we beat this dead horse a little bit. 473 00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:43.480 So moving on. What else you got, man? 474 00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:48.000 A thing that annoys me for quite some time now 475 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:52.160 is kicking out of finishers. They're meant to be a 476 00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:55.839 finishing move. You don't mind it in a big, massive 477 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:59.359 main event like out WrestleMania between the Rocking Stone Cold 478 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:04.079 the Rocke might have had two stunners before he actually lost, 479 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:07.799 but and a load of other moves. But now it 480 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:10.880 just seems like everyone just tries to go for their 481 00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:13.079 finish at a one hundred times in the match, like, 482 00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:14.680 ain't got any other moves? 483 00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:19.359 Yeah, yeah, I hear that. Uh, that is a good 484 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.079 one to bring up, because you know, I actually was 485 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:24.279 talking with my supervisor at work the other day about this, 486 00:25:24.359 --> 00:25:25.960 and he used to be a wrestling fan, but he's 487 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:28.359 talked about like, yeah, it's just kind of become a 488 00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:30.720 little boring and we're kind of reaching the point of 489 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:32.519 and he kept saying the death of the finisher, and 490 00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:34.960 I started thinking, you know, he got a point. Everybody 491 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:37.200 keeps kicking out of everything. It doesn't seem like it 492 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:40.240 matters anymore when somebody hits their finisher on you. Now, 493 00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:42.359 I will admit when uh, I believe it was Edge 494 00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:45.519 versus Randy Orton, when Randy Orton at the very end 495 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:47.599 of that match was a couple of years ago because 496 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:50.039 it was during COVID. But when all of a sudden 497 00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:52.960 he brings back the punt, that made it seem like 498 00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:57.319 a good reason to be kicking out constantly because like, okay, yeah, 499 00:25:57.319 --> 00:25:59.200 the RKAO is just not doing it. He's bringing back 500 00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:01.279 that old move was such a nice callback, you know. 501 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:05.240 Yeah, yeah, on that note, I agree with that, but 502 00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:09.680 it's just a bit like annoying, Like how many times 503 00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:12.559 just the kickout? Like I know, there's been some matches 504 00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:16.960 recently where someone's up to do like three finishes to 505 00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:20.200 win or four finishers, Like how many do you need 506 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:21.559 to do? Yeah? 507 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:24.680 And doesn't Cody Rhods usually hit three crossroads before he 508 00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:25.799 actually pins anybody. 509 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:30.880 Yeah, I think like sometimes he'll do one, they'll kick out, 510 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.200 and then because a bit later he'll probably do like 511 00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:37.240 a double or a triple one or something. I think 512 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:39.960 that's how it kind of went with like maybe room 513 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:41.039 remains and all that. 514 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:46.079 Maybe maybe, But yeah, it's a little annoying just because like, 515 00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:47.799 what is the point of the finisher at this point? 516 00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:50.799 And I think aw had a bit of an issue 517 00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:54.920 with that, especially God, it felt like everything was such 518 00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:58.720 a spotfest for a while. And sometimes it can be good, 519 00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:02.079 you know, Indie shows have the place for that, but man, 520 00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:04.680 when you're trying to compete with the grandest stages of 521 00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.039 them all and you want to put out that and 522 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:10.480 you diminish your own finishing moves, especially things like Canadian 523 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:13.960 destroyers as or Mexican destroyers, whatever you want to call it, 524 00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:16.640 it's the same move, as cool as it looks. They 525 00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:18.759 want to be kicking out of it, you know. 526 00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:23.480 Yeah, sorry, is it just Canadian? Because the best Lou 527 00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:24.519 did it, it's Canadian? 528 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:28.079 I think originally it was the Canadian Destroyer, but then 529 00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:30.640 seeing Penta do it, and lately who's been calling it 530 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:32.440 the Mexican Destroyer. I'm like, all right, it's just the 531 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:36.440 destroyer at this point. Whatever. But yeah, it's like it's 532 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:39.240 such a cool move, but we don't need ten of 533 00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:41.039 them in a match, and we don't need people no 534 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:44.480 selling them and hitting each other with it. It's it's 535 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.960 not necessary and it just kind of diminishes. What is 536 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:50.200 the point of the move if you're going to use 537 00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:51.039 it that often? You know? 538 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:56.160 Yeah, and another finisher, the sweet to music used to 539 00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:01.039 be a brilliant finisher. But now everyone does superkick as 540 00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:02.200 a normal move. 541 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:03.720 Yeah. 542 00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:07.559 Yeah, you're like, you got light in WWE, You got 543 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.480 the Use Shows doing two injured superkicks in aw got 544 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.880 the Young Bucks doing two injured superkicks. It's just like 545 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.559 a bit repetitive. It's like, come on, and you've got 546 00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:18.160 some house. 547 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:21.200 Yeah, we could use some more originality when it comes 548 00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.359 to that sort of thing. And I liked the u 549 00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:25.960 when the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega were doing the 550 00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:28.759 BTE trigger or v trigger whatever they called it. I 551 00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:30.720 thought that was a cool move because it just seemed 552 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.680 so vicious that three people line up in front of 553 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:35.200 you they all hit the knee on you at the 554 00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:40.039 same time. That seems hard and that seems painful. But 555 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:43.279 the superkicks thing, it did get overplayed a lot, and 556 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:46.400 I totally agree superkick mania is now what we need. 557 00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:48.880 Man, No definitely not. 558 00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:54.079 But yeah, yeah, I'm really sad to see the death 559 00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:57.200 of the finisher of it does go this way. Ah. 560 00:28:57.240 --> 00:28:59.960 So something that actually was brought to my attention as well. 561 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:00.440 Now. 562 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:04.000 I asked this in a live chat with Perry Saturn. 563 00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:06.200 He was doing Ask Me Anything the other night, and 564 00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:08.359 it was really interesting to listen to him talk about 565 00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:11.119 some of his experiences and everything, and anybody who wants 566 00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:12.920 to support Perry and help him out. He's got a 567 00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:15.960 there's some sort of a game or something like that 568 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.559 that's going on that's called WU. It's like World Wrestling 569 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:23.000 Organization something like that. I don't exactly remember the name 570 00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:24.440 of it off the top of my head, but it 571 00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:27.400 does give proceeds to him and help him out as 572 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:30.359 well as other wrestlers. But point being, during the chat 573 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.720 he was answering just regular questions but also promoting that game, 574 00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:37.039 and during it I asked, Hey, what is something that 575 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:40.039 you think can leave wrestling at this point that just 576 00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.880 doesn't have a place for you. He said, well, I 577 00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:46.359 would say gimmick matches without any build up. If you're 578 00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:47.839 just going to throw it in just to throw it in, 579 00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.240 there's no reason for it, and it's kind of pointless, 580 00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.559 and he recalled a couple of times where that's happened 581 00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:56.480 to him when he was in WCW as well as 582 00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.000 He also brought up pay per views always having gimmicks. 583 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:02.519 It's not really necessary. You can just have a pay 584 00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:06.079 per view, not if WrestleMania doesn't have to be the 585 00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:10.119 only time that you have regular matches. And just because 586 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.480 you have a War Games match for the men, doesn't 587 00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:14.200 necessarily mean you need to have one for the women. 588 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:17.359 Again his words, but still I do kind of agree 589 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.160 to an extent, like let them have their own pay 590 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:20.920 per view at that point is what he brought up, 591 00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:24.279 Like why not have a women's specific pay per view? 592 00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:26.200 What's wrong with that? What do you think? 593 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.599 Man? Yeah, I see that, But like did they used 594 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:32.359 to have pay per few called like Hell in a 595 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:36.759 Cell or whatever and stuff like that, And it's just like, 596 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.000 why would you have a name for pay per view 597 00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:43.880 when all the matches on it ain't going to be 598 00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:45.599 Hell in this out you and you can have one 599 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.440 heading this out, So what's the point of naming a 600 00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:50.480 pay per view after it? 601 00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:55.240 I could see that. I mean elimination Chamber. I don't 602 00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:57.160 imagine that every match that night is going to be 603 00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.759 an elimination chamber match. But I could kind of see 604 00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:02.880 why it has its place, but not always, you know 605 00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:04.440 what I mean. I think that's what he was getting at. 606 00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.759 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I kind of get that. Like you 607 00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:12.640 used to just have paper fews called like no Way out, 608 00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:20.039 the Edge, over the Edge, Yeah, judgment day armages. There's 609 00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:22.039 loads in your house ones, won't they? 610 00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.640 Yeah, there was for a while. It's interesting seeing the 611 00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:27.519 history on that and if anybody wants to read up 612 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.599 on it, the Titan Sinking, Titan Shattered, Titan Screwed series, 613 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:32.359 it can really help you learn a little bit of 614 00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:35.279 that history because it spells it out pretty clearly for anybody. 615 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:39.839 But yeah, it's interesting just to see how many we 616 00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:41.359 used to have. I believe there was even like a 617 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:43.440 rock Bottom pay per view at one point that was 618 00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:45.279 like nineteen ninety eight or something. 619 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:51.240 Yeah, there was, there was one of these. It also depends, 620 00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:56.200 like I get what he's saying, Like with a gimmick 621 00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.640 match as well, there is sometimes it is a good 622 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.079 thing to have one light. When you had Seth Wallin's 623 00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:07.240 first CM punk in the cage match, because of their 624 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:11.720 build up and their hatred towards each other on TV, 625 00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:15.599 so everyone and they're hit beating each other up every week, 626 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:19.440 and they got to find some way to end the rivalry. 627 00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.319 So they have a cage match, which is fine, but 628 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:26.279 there's other ones. How many times do you see a 629 00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:30.359 street fight? You kind of see it quite often, do you? Yeah? 630 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:30.920 Definitely. 631 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:35.680 You don't need a street fight all the time, do you? 632 00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.200 No, you really don't. And I understand there's a certain 633 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.759 level where they kind of do bring back the hardcore 634 00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:45.200 rules to I guess pay homage to ECW back in 635 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.640 the day, but it's not always needed. 636 00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:52.200 I agree with that, yeah, exactly, And if they wanted 637 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.880 to do that, they should just bring back the hardcore title. 638 00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.759 I know, because the twenty four to seven title weren't 639 00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.119 really the same thing, was it. 640 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.960 It really wasn't, And a PG version of a hardcore 641 00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:06.319 thing is not a good idea. You basically would be 642 00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:10.119 taking Ah, you're just taking the fun out of it, 643 00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.599 you know. The whole point of it was, Yes, it 644 00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:14.640 could be defended twenty four to seven, but it's also 645 00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:18.039 a hardcore title. It's not meant to be just oh yeah, 646 00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:19.599 if you can pin that guy while he's sleeping, you 647 00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.680 can have that belt. To me, it's a low card belt. 648 00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:25.519 Who wants that? Nobody was going to care about it. 649 00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:27.319 What is the point of having it? You know, who's 650 00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:29.359 going to brag about? Oh yeah, the guy's a three 651 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:32.079 hundred and eighty seven time twenty four to seven champion. 652 00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:34.640 It's a joke. Come on. Nobody cared about it. And 653 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.279 that's something else we're I'm glad that we're rid of, you. 654 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:43.599 Know, yeah, definitely, or do our truth was entertaining? But 655 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:46.799 that's because he's the national treasure when it comes to it. 656 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:50.480 Oh absolutely, our truth is great. And you know, even 657 00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.319 though I'm kind of making fun of that title, he 658 00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.799 made it entertaining. And just the fact that wasn't there 659 00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:56.559 one night where he's like hiding under the ring, like 660 00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:58.480 up on a table and then you see somebody like 661 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:00.240 pulling out the table and then they see him just 662 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:01.920 laying on it and smiles at him awkwardly. 663 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:07.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did make it good. 664 00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.679 To be fair, Yeah, I will give him that. 665 00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:15.119 He uh yeah, really do I agree that that's titleways pointless? Really? 666 00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:19.519 Definitely? But uh yeah, man, you got anything else? You 667 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.159 did bring up something else in our conversation that originally 668 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.480 sparked this, so I want to let you have that one. 669 00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:25.519 I don't want to take it from you. 670 00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:28.400 What was it called? Remember? 671 00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:30.079 Oh was the poll parts? 672 00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:34.199 Oh? Yeah? Yeah, they keep happing in regularly, didn't. 673 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:38.079 Yeah, And I get it. When there's something that works, 674 00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:41.440 you want to use it over and over. But the 675 00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:45.000 formula is getting old and it's becoming too repetitive, to 676 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.440 the point where it's like I don't care about seeing 677 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:49.599 these cat fights every single time that I get on 678 00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.719 and watch RAW for once, Like I don't want to 679 00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:54.239 see the same thing over and over again. If I 680 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:56.159 wanted to see that, i'd keep watching the same movie. 681 00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:57.880 Let's see something different next time. 682 00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.159 You know, Well that the problem anyway, They didn't even 683 00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:05.719 do their job, so maybe they'll hold them back, but 684 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.719 they still like manage to get away and fuck carry 685 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:12.199 on fighting. So it's the same thing over and over again. 686 00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:16.360 Like you can see what's happening. It's like a pair 687 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.480 of kids fighting at school and you've got the teachers 688 00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:20.719 trying to hold them back. 689 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.239 You know, I might be the only one who does this, 690 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:28.239 but do you ever look at some of these people 691 00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:30.199 that are holding them back and everything and try to 692 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:31.880 figure out. Are any of these going to be the 693 00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:33.360 next world champion at some point? 694 00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.000 Yeah, exactly. And I always say look at them and think, 695 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.599 what the hell is that guy going to do? He 696 00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:42.800 didn't exactly have any muscle on him. 697 00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:45.400 Yeah, some of these guys are tiny, and it's like, Okay, 698 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.360 maybe he's going to be a high flyer or something. 699 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:50.360 You know. I don't really have a whole bio on 700 00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:52.480 some of these guys that we just see, but little 701 00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:54.039 do we know. At one point Joe Henry was one 702 00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:56.239 of those bodyguard types that we've seen on TV. We 703 00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:59.159 just didn't know it at the time. There's a there's 704 00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:01.760 a couple of wrestlers that used to be the rose Buds. 705 00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.119 I believe, I want to say it was Alias and 706 00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:06.159 someone else. I can't remember who the other person was, 707 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.960 but yeah. It's funny when you start looking at these 708 00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:11.599 extras that you think are on there quote unquote extras, 709 00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:13.280 and then later on you see them on TV and 710 00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:16.159 you're like, hey, do I recognize this guy? 711 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:21.000 Yeah? I think Braun Struman was one of the Booze 712 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:21.760 puts as well. 713 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.280 Yeah, I believe it was Braun. So, yeah, it was 714 00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:27.159 Braun and Elias. I know were in the rose buds and. 715 00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.320 Yeah, that guy I did that, but that was a 716 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:31.280 type a book gimmick. 717 00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:35.840 Yeah, I agree, And that's another thing. We don't need 718 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:39.480 some gimmicks. Just need to go ahead and go off 719 00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:43.079 into sunset, like one gimmick that I've always thought about 720 00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.559 that we don't need anymore. We don't need the foreign 721 00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:49.880 heel gimmick. We don't need Russia versus America or anybody 722 00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:52.480 for that matter, And we don't need like how Russev 723 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:54.360 was portrayed against Sena. For a while, it felt like 724 00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:57.159 I was watching a Cold War era wrestling tape or something. 725 00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:01.800 Yeah, I get what you mean. And the funny thing 726 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.440 is he an even Russian anyway exactly? 727 00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:06.559 They called them the Bulgarian brute as well, which made 728 00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:11.039 me like, so why, Okay, I get they're somewhat close, 729 00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.360 but what this doesn't make sense? 730 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:17.239 And then Lana is not Russian, She's American. 731 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:21.679 So I'll make a little bit of a pass on 732 00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:24.400 certain things, like they're gonna play a character, it's cool, 733 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:28.239 but like, if you're going to portray them as another 734 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.800 country entirely but still give them like Russian ties, that 735 00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:32.599 doesn't make sense to me. I mean, I get that 736 00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:36.159 they're close, but nah, man, this just doesn't work for me. 737 00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:38.800 And yeah, I think we can do away with some 738 00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:40.880 of those heels and some of those type of characters. 739 00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.320 It just doesn't work anymore. We don't need the Iron 740 00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:47.840 Chic and what's his name anymore. I mean call off yeah. 741 00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:52.440 Yeah, and that type team, the French Ones what they 742 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:58.840 called Love Assistance Mmmm okay, yeah, I think that they 743 00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:05.960 were a novel one new didn't like Americans. 744 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.679 Yeah, we just don't need that as a gimmick anymore. 745 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:14.400 It it served its purpose maybe back in the eighties, 746 00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.159 maybe even a little bit in the nineties, but nowadays 747 00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.400 it's just kind of coming gone. I especially understand it 748 00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:23.039 from before then, because you know, you had a the 749 00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:25.800 whole memory of Nazis and stuff was still fresh, and 750 00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:28.400 you saw guys like Fritz von Era coming out and 751 00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.159 acting that way. And at the time that makes sense. 752 00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:34.960 But nowadays that's kind of coming one look down on 753 00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.280 and nobody really wants to see it anymore. I get it. 754 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:38.559 We don't need it anymore. 755 00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:44.440 Yeah, definitely. There is something or kind of myths as 756 00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:49.119 well with wrestling, what something and that is the old 757 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:54.880 style count like El HEBNA slow count or whatever. They 758 00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:58.639 don't seem to do it very much anymore. It's very 759 00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:02.280 when the rest free count, it's for me one two 760 00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:06.480 free one two, like who counts like that? 761 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.400 That's fair. I can understand that. But I do appreciate 762 00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:13.199 that at least they are consistent a little bit more 763 00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:17.320 with the referees nowadays. Excuse me, but something that I 764 00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:20.480 remember growing up and watching was I remember seeing like 765 00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:24.000 you would see a heel holding the face in the 766 00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.760 corner or something, and then you'd see them going beyond 767 00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.360 whatever the count was that the referee was giving, and 768 00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:33.639 then eventually, depending on who the referee was, they'd either 769 00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:35.960 pull them apart or they just call for the disqualification. 770 00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:38.840 I remember thinking, like, man, depending on who your referee is, 771 00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:41.199 you're getting screwed in these matches. You can be winning 772 00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:43.840 by this disqualification, or you can be just getting pulled 773 00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:47.000 apart and then getting cheated against later. That's kind of 774 00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:49.159 messed up. So I do appreciate that they worked a 775 00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:51.840 little bit on the consistency of being a referee. 776 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:56.079 You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that. I 777 00:39:56.239 --> 00:40:00.280 just missed that. I guess the dram of a the 778 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:03.199 old style count that's true. 779 00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:06.199 I mean some refs are better than others with that. 780 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.840 Like what's her name from aw Audrey? I think is 781 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:12.159 her name Audrey or Aubrey wanted it too. I don't 782 00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:14.079 really remember her full name off the top of my 783 00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:16.599 head right now, but she has done a pretty good 784 00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:19.960 job of trying to be a character as well in 785 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:23.079 the ring. And talking with Mike Keyota, he had explained, 786 00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:24.840 like being the third man in the ring, it really 787 00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:29.599 does give a different perspective on certain things because being 788 00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:33.519 that guy, if you mess up, everybody's gonna notice, and 789 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.559 your performance is just as important. It's just not the 790 00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:40.519 same way. But if you mess up, boy do they know, 791 00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.079 and boy does everybody call you out? He actually explained, 792 00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.800 like Sean Michaels apparently used to be notorious for if 793 00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:48.320 a referee messed up their matches, especially at house shows, 794 00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:50.679 after the show was over, he'd be one to like 795 00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:53.280 tell the whole audience be like, yeah, this referee is 796 00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:55.320 a pos he don't know what he's doing type of thing. 797 00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:02.039 Yeah, I can see. Is it must be like quite difficult, 798 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:03.559 isn't it? 799 00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:06.119 Maybe a little bit at the time, but yeah, it's 800 00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.039 something that God, I would love to have a conversation 801 00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:09.599 with him about it. I think that'd be really cool. 802 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:13.280 But I digress either way. But yeah, man, So anything 803 00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.639 else that you can think of about things that we 804 00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:17.320 just don't needt a wrestling because I'm kind of tapped 805 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:18.079 out at this point. 806 00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:20.280 Oh okay, you submitting you? 807 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.800 Yeah. I don't think I have anything else in my 808 00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:25.719 head anyways that we don't need anymore. But I do 809 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:27.320 like that we kind of went to like things that 810 00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:28.760 we could use more of as well. If you have 811 00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:29.599 any of that, go. 812 00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:40.800 For it, dude, Yeah, what can we use more of? Well? 813 00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.960 Going back to the finish I thing just to finish 814 00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:46.840 and whin the goddamn match on a normal show rule 815 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:49.840 or something, and you didn't have to kick out on that, 816 00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:50.480 do you know me? 817 00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:54.880 Yeah, I don't really need to play up too much 818 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.320 drama on your just regular shows, you know. I will 819 00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:01.480 say that, Uh, what was I going to bring up? 820 00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:04.039 So when it comes to these promos recently, did you 821 00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:07.360 hear about what happened with the Charlotte and what's her name? 822 00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:11.599 Yeah, it apparently went off script and all that, But 823 00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:14.280 I do kind of wonder if it was a work 824 00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:19.079 just to get some heat on it if you go, 825 00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:19.599 I mean. 826 00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:22.880 Maybe, but yeah, Charlotte and Tiffy, I mean hearing and 827 00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.599 seeing what they were saying. Apparently it's also been removed 828 00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:27.719 from like Netflix and stuff. I'd have to go back 829 00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:29.320 and see if it's actually there or not, but from 830 00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:31.920 what I've heard, yeah, they're like taking it pretty serious. 831 00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:35.480 I don't know everything that happened. I've read the script 832 00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.440 of it, but man, if that's really going on, I'm 833 00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:41.159 kind of impressed if it is a work, but if not, 834 00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:44.239 then it's a little too real there. 835 00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.960 I kind of feel like because obviously they're going against 836 00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:53.039 each other, so I know, not every wrestler likes each other, 837 00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:58.079 but they have to work together or whatever. But in 838 00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:04.840 this case, it's probably they were struggling with their promos, 839 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.840 I think, and the back and forth wasn't exactly brilliant, 840 00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:12.239 and because they were getting very good feedback what I 841 00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:18.039 could hear. But like on this Narviia, it was a 842 00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:23.280 case of I think Tiffany said something about have ha 843 00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:25.519 been what free marriages or something. 844 00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:30.440 I think it was three or four divorces at this point. Yeh, yeah, yeah, 845 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:30.840 it's a. 846 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:34.639 Bit and then she walked out the ring and then 847 00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:39.559 Charlotte said something like Ludwig's in my DMS, which is 848 00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:40.760 obviously not true, but. 849 00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.320 I mean it's entertaining. I'll give it that. So I 850 00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.400 do kind of hope it isn't work and I hope 851 00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:49.559 they're not going too far against each other there. But 852 00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.360 you know what, maybe they're doing some method acting. I 853 00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:54.199 don't know, maybe they agreed to it beforehand, and maybe 854 00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:58.280 they're just having fun. But that's the case, Yeah, heck, 855 00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.159 have fun with it. But all right, I'm kind of 856 00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:03.119 coming to the end here. I don't think that we 857 00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:05.639 have too much in the mind right now. So I 858 00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.000 guess I could ask Scott, do you have any recommendations 859 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:09.000 for the audience this week? 860 00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:13.920 It's a British drama. I don't know if you've watched it, 861 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.679 MAV called Adolescence. Have you seen it? 862 00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:19.760 Oh, I've seen the trailers on Netflix. I haven't watched 863 00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:21.039 it yet, but I do want to. 864 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:28.400 Yeah. So, basically, the main character the lad he plays 865 00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:33.360 to like called Jamie, and he's accused of killing murdering 866 00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:39.159 a fellow schoolgirl. Basically, but the main purpose of it, 867 00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:43.199 it's only four episodes, one series, four episode. The main 868 00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:48.599 purpose is it of the program is it goes deep 869 00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:53.599 into the characters themselves. So rather than just be like, oh, yeah, 870 00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:56.159 why did you kill him? And oh I killed him 871 00:44:56.159 --> 00:44:59.599 because of this or whatever like that, it's more of 872 00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:06.039 a you see more of the character, like them getting 873 00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:10.760 angry and like what it means to like the parents 874 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.199 of the kid, what their life is like afterwards, if 875 00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:15.800 you get me. 876 00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:17.679 Interesting. Interesting. 877 00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:22.000 So it's very like The camera work I found was 878 00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.840 quite entertaining as well because it was different, like it 879 00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:31.840 follows the actors around rather than just like laid back. 880 00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:35.400 It kind of follows their footsteps, if that makes sense. 881 00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.039 So when they go into a room, you'll go into 882 00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:40.159 the room with stuff like that. 883 00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:45.079 Okay, I see, so they're like legitimately following them instead 884 00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:46.960 of just being like a camera set up in the 885 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:48.519 next room for them or anything like that. 886 00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:51.880 Yeah. Yeah, And it's kind of cool, loud they did it, 887 00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:55.599 and it's got like Stephen Graham, who's like one of 888 00:45:55.679 --> 00:46:02.320 the most underrated actors. He's brilliant. He's from Liverpool and 889 00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:04.719 he's been in loads of things like This is England. 890 00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:06.960 I don't know if you ever seen that film. 891 00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:09.800 I have not yet, but I'll put it on the list. 892 00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:14.079 Now, yeah, and he's also there was also one of 893 00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:17.880 my favorite series that came from This Is England film, 894 00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:22.599 which was This Is England series. There was eighty six, 895 00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:26.639 eighty eight, and ninety and basically they continued from that film, 896 00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:29.360 so he was in all them as well, along with 897 00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.440 the original actors from the first film. And he's just 898 00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:37.440 a brilliant actor. He's really past, like really good at 899 00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.960 what he does basically. So that would be my recommendation 900 00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:42.280 for someone to watch. 901 00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:47.840 Okay, sounds good man, So my recommendation for this week, guys, 902 00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:51.559 there's an old movie and I guess they're making continuation 903 00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:53.920 of it soon and I'm really excited for it. It's 904 00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:57.119 gonna be starring Liam Neeson. So let's go back and 905 00:46:57.119 --> 00:46:59.360 watch the original. Let's watch the old Naked Gun movie 906 00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:03.280 because as dumb as it is, that comedy Leslie Nielsen 907 00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.480 put out, I love it. I eat it up. That's 908 00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:09.440 one of my favorite things ever between Airplane the Naked Gun. 909 00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:14.360 Some of the Scary Movie franchise loved it. But yeah, 910 00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:16.840 so I guess that's it for this week. Guys. As usual, 911 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.079 do some nice for somebody you never know who needs it. 912 00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:22.000 You guys know where to reach us at this point. 913 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.760 With that the words of Memphis Mark, we're out. 914 00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:32.159 Thanks for listening to the WWE podcast. Don't forget to 915 00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:36.039 subscribe on your favorite podcast app so you don't miss 916 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:40.280 a show, or head to WWE podcast dot com and 917 00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:42.760 for all of these shows add free head over to 918 00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:48.440 Patreon dot com slash WWE podcast. 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