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Speaker 2: Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going
Speaker 2: on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to
Speaker 2: kill your dog, my dog. We're flying through there, over
Speaker 2: the tree. I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn,
Speaker 2: I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 2: over the fence, and name was dead once you hit
Speaker 2: the grill. I didn't see any cars. All I saw
Speaker 2: was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what are
Speaker 2: you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around
Speaker 2: out here? Did you see what it was? It was
Speaker 2: enough out here looking through the window now and I
Speaker 2: don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Its point,
Speaker 2: you're right, Tara, Hello, hit somebody out here?
Speaker 3: What quent on out there?
Speaker 2: It's thought of a bit of about sixty four nine.
Speaker 2: I don't know easy, I'm out there, yeah, from right head.
Speaker 4: Oh hey, Greening's friend Alaska. The share I'm sharing with
Speaker 4: you guys today. This happened back in nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 4: Eric was on the cruiser team or something like that.
Speaker 4: He was working for the Tongas National Force down in
Speaker 4: Southeast Alaska on a particular two week off schedule that
Speaker 4: they had, they decided they wanted to go to this
Speaker 4: place called the Powers Creek. So Wolchel had told him
Speaker 4: it was a beautiful place, good camping or whatever. But
Speaker 4: when I was looking up this place on the map
Speaker 4: to familiarize myself with the area, it's in the Endicott Arms.
Speaker 4: It's the Tracy arm Ford's Terror Wilderness area. Supposedly because
Speaker 4: the guy got trapped in that inlet for six days
Speaker 4: and icy waters, it couldn't get out. They went up
Speaker 4: in there at this particular place there's little waterfalls and whatnot.
Speaker 4: The elevation gains rather quickly where they were cutting back
Speaker 4: in to camp out, hang out, just explore the area.
Speaker 3: Southeast Alaska's beautiful. You can google this and that.
Speaker 4: It's unreal beauty, untamed, wilderness, pristine. They get back up
Speaker 4: in there. The place they chose to camp was relatively
Speaker 4: thick brush. They weren't necessarily near salmon return streams. They
Speaker 4: were in a relatively bare free type of environment. None
Speaker 4: of them were armed. They didn't have any bear spray.
Speaker 4: They had some hatchets and shit like that. They get
Speaker 4: their camp the first night, most peaceful Sleepy said he
Speaker 4: ever had walk up to a beautiful morning. However, half
Speaker 4: way through that day, he explained it sounded like the
Speaker 4: original scream originated further down the Endicott arm in the inlet.
Speaker 4: It was a hllacious scream, sound like they had never
Speaker 4: heard at that point. He had been working in the
Speaker 4: Tongas for less than a handful of years, but he
Speaker 4: was seasonal and he would fly in and out, and
Speaker 4: he had other things going on down in his home state.
Speaker 4: He would come up work that as a passion job.
Speaker 4: What he was passionate about being out in the wilderness
Speaker 4: and Alaska's beautiful.
Speaker 3: It was all over it.
Speaker 4: Scream happens midday and they just look at each other
Speaker 4: and chalk it up till that was weird when they
Speaker 4: started naming off it was probably just a mountain lion
Speaker 4: or something, and they debated. Anyway, they went on with
Speaker 4: their day because it was at a distance away. It
Speaker 4: was loud, but at a far enough distance to where
Speaker 4: they weren't immediately concerned and it was easy to ride
Speaker 4: it off as something. So they continue on. Now by
Speaker 4: the end of the day, when they got back to camp,
Speaker 4: because they didn't go far from camp, they were doing
Speaker 4: small circles, just checking the area, working their way out.
Speaker 4: The whole purpose was to explore. There was no fishing involved,
Speaker 4: no hunting, none of that. There are three dudes just
Speaker 4: wanting to check out the Alaskan wilderness see it with
Speaker 4: their own eyes. And they stayed in a tight group.
Speaker 4: They were smart enough they didn't wander off from each other.
Speaker 4: They're basically doing this circle around, just checking out around
Speaker 4: camp and hiking up little ways and Powers Creek is
Speaker 4: at the base of some dumb glacier, sumdum glacier. They're
Speaker 4: doing their thing. When they get back to camp, it
Speaker 4: threw them off because it was like everything in their
Speaker 4: camp was shifted in one way or another, kind of
Speaker 4: not jostled through, but just imagine someone going through your
Speaker 4: living room lifting up the couch cushion, not pushing it
Speaker 4: down all the way, you know, opening a cupboard door,
Speaker 4: and it's just little nuances they picked up on. But
Speaker 4: everything was relatively the same, but it didn't feel like
Speaker 4: the same. So they thought it was weird and just
Speaker 4: chalked it up to we're just tired from hiking. Because
Speaker 4: it was the season of the Land of the Midnight Sun,
Speaker 4: so they get dinner prepared, and as they're finishing up
Speaker 4: their dinner, it was one of their jobs, they took
Speaker 4: turns washing dishes down at the creek to avoid attracting bears. Right,
Speaker 4: Eric's next oldest buddy went on down there to the
Speaker 4: creek to wash the utensils, the plates and stuff, keep
Speaker 4: it fare friendly. Another scream came directly across the creek
Speaker 4: from this poor guy just minding his business scrubbing down
Speaker 4: these the pots of pants, dishes and all the little
Speaker 4: camping stuff they brought, and this thing screams at him.
Speaker 4: He didn't see it, but it screamed at him. Immediately,
Speaker 4: everything that was at the creek side left there.
Speaker 3: He skidaddled back to the camp.
Speaker 4: Eric and the other guy were standing there with their hatchets,
Speaker 4: and one of them had a full size axe. They
Speaker 4: were like, what the what the hell was that his
Speaker 4: buddy that ran back over? He goes, I didn't see anything,
Speaker 4: but it was loud. Something's big over there. They're roughly
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty yards from this creek, so this
Speaker 4: poor guy was real close to the hairy man screaming
Speaker 4: at him, and the other ones were one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty yards away and still felt it felt the scream.
Speaker 4: So as they're circling the wagons looking all around, it's
Speaker 4: getting on into dusk time. Now it's not going to
Speaker 4: get fully dark, but there's enough trees they're and old
Speaker 4: girl stuff to where they're under canopy. It's going to
Speaker 4: be dark for them, darker than it would be had
Speaker 4: they been out less forested area like where I am.
Speaker 4: Now they get their game plan. They're going to build
Speaker 4: a big fire. They'll take watches if they have to
Speaker 4: get tired, because they want to try to find out
Speaker 4: what this is. One of his friends brings up the
Speaker 4: Bigfoot footage, you know, Patterson Gimlin footage and whatnot. They're
Speaker 4: all sitting there debating and like, nah, I couldn't be
Speaker 4: you know, Nah, that was a guy in a suit.
Speaker 3: Just stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Just as they were getting ready to finalize who's going
Speaker 4: to take first watch so the other ones could sleep,
Speaker 4: the screaming started very nearby. From more than one. It
Speaker 4: was literally north southeast west. It wasn't exactly north southeast west,
Speaker 4: but they were staged in an exact pattern. I get
Speaker 4: the goosebumps thinking about it. From what he was trying
Speaker 4: to explain because he got uttered up a little bit
Speaker 4: explaining it to me because of relieving it. The emotions
Speaker 4: involved was palpable. He decides he's going to the next
Speaker 4: following day go down and attempt to flag one of
Speaker 4: their buddies who had a boat that.
Speaker 3: Was going to be in the area every day.
Speaker 4: And he said a certain time if you got issues,
Speaker 4: be done on the beach and waved me. They had
Speaker 4: certain backup plans as far as emergencies right, talk to
Speaker 4: his buddies, said tomorrow during that time, one of us,
Speaker 4: if not all, probably all of us will go down
Speaker 4: there and wave and get attention and we'll get out
Speaker 4: of here because something ain't right. So they got all
Speaker 4: that down and basically plodding on vacating the area.
Speaker 5: There.
Speaker 4: He said there was such an ominous feeling that he
Speaker 4: couldn't sit still. He would be trying to do something
Speaker 4: to get his mind off of it, but he couldn't.
Speaker 4: He was too fidgety. He could not relax. There was
Speaker 4: no relaxed feeling. As it got progressively a little darker,
Speaker 4: they started hearing the movement. Every so often there'd be
Speaker 4: a volley of screams. As soon as one started, they
Speaker 4: all started. It was coming from one area first and
Speaker 4: then the other ones just filled in right after. So
Speaker 4: as this kept going on, they noticed that the screaming
Speaker 4: was always moving, but the distances were always the same,
Speaker 4: and it was like they stayed in the same four
Speaker 4: point kind of configuration, kind of rotating around their camp.
Speaker 4: And he said it felt like they were being pressured
Speaker 4: to leave. They had gotten back to back, stoked the fire,
Speaker 4: and just resigned themselves to whatever's going to happen is
Speaker 4: going to happen. We have basically no way out. They
Speaker 4: keep moving, they keep screaming, but the screams were not
Speaker 4: as loud as the first few. These things were close
Speaker 4: enough into the trees to where even the low level
Speaker 4: screams were absolutely terrifying. Still felt them through the body.
Speaker 4: Things of this nature. So what they decided to do
Speaker 4: is start breaking down their camp. They wanted to break down,
Speaker 4: but then things started flying in, hitting the fire, hitting
Speaker 4: around them. It was getting to a dark point where
Speaker 4: they could tell some of them are sticks, some of
Speaker 4: them are small rocks. As they were trying to kind
Speaker 4: of pack things up, they ended up not getting much
Speaker 4: done on that aspect. It went on like that. The
Speaker 4: rest of the night, they were dead dog tired. But
Speaker 4: as soon as it was getting lighter in the morning,
Speaker 4: as soon as it changed and it was obvious it
Speaker 4: was going to be getting lighter and lighter, all activities stopped.
Speaker 4: It went dead quiet, not a sound in the forest.
Speaker 4: So they're a little tired. They figure, okay, let's go together.
Speaker 4: We'll stay super close. We got our hatchets in the axe,
Speaker 4: and we'll get down.
Speaker 3: To the beach. We'll wave the guy down.
Speaker 4: At this particular time, it was sometime first thing in
Speaker 4: the morning that if they were going to need help
Speaker 4: to be waving or whatever. So they get down there
Speaker 4: and they're at the beach and daily passerby doesn't show up.
Speaker 4: They're sitting there most of the morning and most of
Speaker 4: the afternoon hoping that this guy comes by. They made
Speaker 4: no attempt to go back to their camp, none of that.
Speaker 4: They stayed right there. They had brought a couple of
Speaker 4: small provisions. They were eating spam out of the can
Speaker 4: and some kind of black beans or something like that.
Speaker 4: So after they get done with their little meal, they decided,
Speaker 4: let's just get back to camp. Let's get our stuff
Speaker 4: packed up. We'll just camp down here. We'll just make
Speaker 4: this our camp.
Speaker 3: They go back.
Speaker 4: Their camp is thrashed, nothing tore up, just like a
Speaker 4: tornado hit and spread it all around and everything. So
Speaker 4: they took the time helping each other gather it. Two
Speaker 4: would stand guard, the other wood pick stuff up, and
Speaker 4: so on. They got everything rearranged, they moved down closer
Speaker 4: to the beach. They decided once they got to that point,
Speaker 4: because it took a long time to scour and find
Speaker 4: their stuff, I would have left it, but they were
Speaker 4: killing time anyway. They figured, let's bring our stuff with us.
Speaker 4: They get to their second place where they were going
Speaker 4: to camp. This is night number three. First night they
Speaker 4: slept great, and second night had them rotating around screaming.
Speaker 4: This is their third full night. They decided they're going
Speaker 4: to set up one tent. They'd sleep in rotation. Two
Speaker 4: would stay up, one would sleep, and so on. So
Speaker 4: they started that process, and as soon as it started getting.
Speaker 3: Dusk, the scream started up again. Same pattern.
Speaker 4: There was four rotating around every so often, but always
Speaker 4: in an ex configuration. It seemed to be from how
Speaker 4: it sounded distance of doing the same thing at the time,
Speaker 4: he said. He took notes. He was writing down certain
Speaker 4: cracking sounds. Things started flying in again. It was a
Speaker 4: repeat of the night before. Basically terrified. None of them
Speaker 4: got sleep, even when they would go into the tent
Speaker 4: to sleep. They just couldn't shake this. So they're exhausted,
Speaker 4: they're starting to get emotional, they're starting to infight a
Speaker 4: little bit, arguing with each other, just stupid shit, just
Speaker 4: out of fear and anxiety. The next morning, they run
Speaker 4: down to the beach because they eventually did fall asleep
Speaker 4: for a little bit. They didn't mean to, but they
Speaker 4: were over exhausted and they fell asleep for a few hours.
Speaker 4: Nothing happened to them, thankfully. They get down to the
Speaker 4: beach without packing up their stuff. They left the stuff
Speaker 4: and try to hurry down to the beach. They're waving
Speaker 4: and flag, you know, they're looking for anything to wave at,
Speaker 4: even if it wasn't their buddy. They had planned on
Speaker 4: being out there for damn near the whole two week off.
Speaker 4: So they're packing can goods, they're packing all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 4: As they're going back to gather up their stuff. They
Speaker 4: needed to eat, they needed their provisions or whatever. So
Speaker 4: they all go back up together and again campus is thrashed,
Speaker 4: everything jostled about. They decide, we'll just pick up the
Speaker 4: pertinent stuff and leave the rest that we won't need,
Speaker 4: and we're just gonna stay down on that beach and
Speaker 4: flag down whoever in the hell we can. We'll start
Speaker 4: a signal fire. Whatever we gotta do, let's do it.
Speaker 4: They sit there, gather up pertinent and stuff, important stuff,
Speaker 4: all that kind of thing, some survival stuff, one tent.
Speaker 4: They leave the rest of the stuff. They go down
Speaker 4: to the beach and set up a small camp. They're
Speaker 4: gathering up wood together as a group, moving as a group,
Speaker 4: collecting this wood to make a signal fire. Have some
Speaker 4: spruce boughs to make it smokey whenever they see a
Speaker 4: vessel coming by or a plane. At this point it
Speaker 4: didn't matter. They decide they needed a few more things
Speaker 4: from that camp. After they got everything set up, they
Speaker 4: got the fire going or whatever. It wasn't dark out,
Speaker 4: but they decided they're going to go together and go
Speaker 4: back up and look for a couple more things. He
Speaker 4: had some equipment that he didn't want to lose. He
Speaker 4: wanted to go back and get it because he realized
Speaker 4: he had forgot it. As Eric is in the lead
Speaker 4: of the group. They get back up into where their
Speaker 4: camp was, and this time it wasn't just jostled about.
Speaker 3: Things were torn into small pieces.
Speaker 4: Something just sat there just tearing up pages of a
Speaker 4: phone book and just spreading it around that pieces of tent.
Speaker 4: Everything was everywhere. They were unable to find anything of
Speaker 4: any value. Any can goods that were left were smashed.
Speaker 4: He said that one of the they had a foam type.
Speaker 3: It wasn't necessarily a cooler.
Speaker 4: It was like one of those old style lunch boxes,
Speaker 4: like the igloo style. It was like a foam interlined
Speaker 4: plastic shell basically with a top. They found that and
Speaker 4: a huge, muddy, greasy handprint was on top of it.
Speaker 4: He said that the top of this little cooler type
Speaker 4: deal was approximately fourteen by eighteen in size, so you
Speaker 4: know you're looking at something like that, not very big.
Speaker 4: But the handprint, he could tell that the fingers would
Speaker 4: just hang over the side of this state. They could
Speaker 4: see the whole palm print, part of the thumb, and
Speaker 4: part of the other fingers on this. So it was
Speaker 4: a massive hand that had pushed down on the saint.
Speaker 3: The way it was.
Speaker 4: Pushed down is it pushed the lid and split the
Speaker 4: sides a little bit just from the pressure.
Speaker 3: So they get the hell out of die.
Speaker 4: They get back down the beach and immediately the whole
Speaker 4: way back down the holy shit, this is like we
Speaker 4: got a big foot. There's more than one this and
Speaker 4: that they were talking about it. The debate was over
Speaker 4: for all three of them in their minds. Now, as
Speaker 4: they're down at the beach, they're breaking up the spruce
Speaker 4: boughs to make sure that they could easily get that
Speaker 4: fire smoking when they needed to. It's not dark out,
Speaker 4: but it's not light either. So where they were dropped
Speaker 4: down onto the beach in elevation from where they were
Speaker 4: it was a little bit of a rise, and then
Speaker 4: the tree line a little ways back. Now, at this
Speaker 4: particular point, he said that even though it was light
Speaker 4: on the beach, the tree line and the canopies of
Speaker 4: the trees it was a lot darker, and they started
Speaker 4: hearing movement back and forth up and down the beach
Speaker 4: line within the trees. Now, when they were discussing what
Speaker 4: the hell they were going to do, there was an
Speaker 4: overwhelming sense of terror because now these things are acting,
Speaker 4: pacing all around them. So they're in a living world
Speaker 4: to terror at this point, and they keep hearing it
Speaker 4: bashing back and forth, and they weren't sleeping. They were
Speaker 4: just literally sitting there listening, stoking the fire and listening.
Speaker 4: It was just movements, that's all they heard. They didn't
Speaker 4: hear any other screaming, and no al mimics, none of that.
Speaker 4: It was just pure stalking and walking back and forth
Speaker 4: like pacing. But they could tell it was still at
Speaker 4: least four of them now as morning was breaking the
Speaker 4: next morning, just above where they were hearing the movement,
Speaker 4: there was a little bit of a clear spot before
Speaker 4: the tree line tucked back away from shore a little
Speaker 4: bit and then cut back. As they were looking the
Speaker 4: whole time, didn't notice this thing. When they did notice,
Speaker 4: it was standing there next to a big old tree,
Speaker 4: just watching them, and it dawned on them. For hours,
Speaker 4: they had been scanning back and forth and overlooking this thing.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 4: It was less than fifty feet away, right up the
Speaker 4: bank from them, right over by some trees the whole time. Massive,
Speaker 4: he said, it was at least fourteen foot and tall,
Speaker 4: at least five foot wide, somewhere in that range. It
Speaker 4: had the appearance of being a very dark brown to
Speaker 4: blame kind of coloration to it. Only when they realized
Speaker 4: and started looking directly at it did it move. It
Speaker 4: made itself more visible, then turned around and walked off
Speaker 4: into the trees, and they listened to it walk from
Speaker 4: where it was up to directly above them and start
Speaker 4: pushing and breaking trees just above them. A couple of
Speaker 4: the tips of the trees came falling down near them
Speaker 4: to where they're backed up towards the waterline, and they're
Speaker 4: freaking the hell out. This thing screams horribly loud, and
Speaker 4: then they hear thrashing through the trees as it runs
Speaker 4: around and back over towards by where it was, and
Speaker 4: then they heard it run back the other direction. Then
Speaker 4: as soon as that stopped, the other ones they heard pacing.
Speaker 4: We're all just right up in the tree line. They
Speaker 4: could see the silhouettes of these things, and they were
Speaker 4: moving like leapfrogging each other and moving back and forth
Speaker 4: into the trees. They were focused on that. Just as
Speaker 4: they're focusing on that, they hear the sound of an
Speaker 4: outboard out behind them, so.
Speaker 3: Immediately they turn around.
Speaker 4: They start flinging on that spruce boughs onto their fire
Speaker 4: it was their friend, and their friend was coming directly
Speaker 4: for them.
Speaker 3: It was just coincidental.
Speaker 4: The guy wasn't going to be around to retrieve them
Speaker 4: at the end of the week or however long they
Speaker 4: were going to be there, so he was coming early regardless, thankfully,
Speaker 4: to retrieve them and get them out of there, because
Speaker 4: no one would be available to come and get them.
Speaker 4: Just happenstance, So they're thankful. As their friend is getting
Speaker 4: closer to shore, his friend circles around a couple times
Speaker 4: and his pointing and is telling them move down the
Speaker 4: beach right, So they're immediately like, they turn around, they're looking.
Speaker 4: There's that big one up on the bank just above them,
Speaker 4: just inside the trees, looking right down at him.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
Speaker 4: After these messages. Their buddy in the boat saw it
Speaker 4: and was like, move further down to get away from
Speaker 4: that thing kind of thing. Because the guy they could
Speaker 4: barely hear him because he's still in the boat, going
Speaker 4: in circles or whatever and screaming move down.
Speaker 3: So they take off.
Speaker 4: They left what they had right there on the beach
Speaker 4: and ran down the beach in the little ways, and
Speaker 4: the guy cut in. They all jumped on and got
Speaker 4: out of dodge.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 4: Once they got on the boat and pushed off the
Speaker 4: buddy that saw it in the tree line, that was
Speaker 4: coming to pick him up in the skiff kept going
Speaker 4: back and forth in the skiff, and that's when the
Speaker 4: other one started throwing big rocks towards them. That's when
Speaker 4: they got out of there. That happened in nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 4: I got this email a little while back, been in
Speaker 4: correspondence trying to get the overall feel of what these
Speaker 4: guys were dealing with. There's something to be said about
Speaker 4: seeing them versus not seeing them, which is more terrifying.
Speaker 4: I would much rather see it and no pinpoint. It's
Speaker 4: location versus guessing, especially if you're making your way through
Speaker 4: the trees. Good God, it didn't stop Eric from going
Speaker 4: out in the woods. He continued going out in the woods,
Speaker 4: never in that area again, but he checked out places
Speaker 4: around who knows sid good. There's a blanch of different
Speaker 4: little islands in there. In the inside passage explored a
Speaker 4: bunch of those areas. But he said it seemed like
Speaker 4: from that day forward, anytime they were any more remote.
Speaker 3: Than just the coast.
Speaker 4: Anytime they would go into the trees anywhere, he always
Speaker 4: felt watched, which is understandable. I still feel watched to
Speaker 4: this day. Let me share it to something that happened
Speaker 4: to Walter, Bernice, and Michael. Walter and Bernice are the
Speaker 4: parents Michael's and adult son. They were on the Tailor Highway.
Speaker 4: This is approximately a week they said. It was near
Speaker 4: a Mosquito fork of the forty Mile River, which is
Speaker 4: not too far from the Canadian border, north of McGrath
Speaker 4: and all that between highway to up.
Speaker 3: Towards where the two highway ends.
Speaker 4: So they're dragging this toy hauler right, sixteen footer, double axle.
Speaker 4: They had a bunch of toys they were going to play.
Speaker 4: Michael graduated college up here. They're all from out of state,
Speaker 4: but he graduated a couple of years ago, and this
Speaker 4: was the first opportunity for Tim and his parents to
Speaker 4: get together and do some family stuff. So their cruising
Speaker 4: along and Walter and Vernation on the front and Michael
Speaker 4: was napping in the backseat. He had had a good
Speaker 4: time with his buddies the night before. They're going along
Speaker 4: and they're coming up on the Mosquito for it's a
Speaker 4: bridge that goes over it. They didn't specify exactly how big.
Speaker 4: They were a little freaked out of what they were
Speaker 4: dealing with. They said, as they were coming along they
Speaker 4: thought they saw three people crossing from one side to
Speaker 4: the other. They said they were thrown off because these
Speaker 4: people looked huge and it appeared they had teals, so
Speaker 4: they weren't sure it was someone just dragging like a
Speaker 4: fly fishing rod. Case they're about three foot.
Speaker 3: Long, fourth with long and tubular or so.
Speaker 4: They just chalked it up at first till they got
Speaker 4: closer because these things weren't running off in any particular direction.
Speaker 4: They were just crossing. They are looking from a distance.
Speaker 4: They were about three hundred yards out when they initially
Speaker 4: saw what threw them off is as soon as they
Speaker 4: saw them by the sign that said Mosquillo fork or whatever.
Speaker 4: But as they were coming up on it, the things
Speaker 4: had already gone off the road, and they figured fishery
Speaker 4: were going down below the bridge to flyfish until they
Speaker 4: got near that sign, and some of that sign was
Speaker 4: about nine feet off the ground, and these seeds were
Speaker 4: roughly the same height as that, so that got their attention.
Speaker 4: They slowed down, they stopped. Michael was awake at this
Speaker 4: point because his parents got his attention, saying, hey, look
Speaker 4: at those people or what have you.
Speaker 3: So everyone was on point.
Speaker 4: Michael grabbed his rifle, jumped out, ran across the road
Speaker 4: to look where these things went down. Saw that thing,
Speaker 4: heard nothing, it dead quiet. He comes back up to
Speaker 4: the truck and he's talking to his dad through the
Speaker 4: window and he's asking them, what exactly did you see
Speaker 4: in his dead So we saw three beings and it
Speaker 4: looked like they had tails.
Speaker 3: Michael said that he's going to go take a closer look.
Speaker 4: So he goes over to the bridge and as he's
Speaker 4: looking to see if he could see anything, he hears
Speaker 4: some weird noises and chalks it up and says, let's
Speaker 4: go across the bridge, sit and wait and see if
Speaker 4: these things come back out. Let's see if we can
Speaker 4: get a perspective from across and look back and see
Speaker 4: if we can look down at them and figure out
Speaker 4: if their flight fishermen or not. He jumps saying they cross,
Speaker 4: they had to go up a little ways to turn
Speaker 4: around to come back and be facing the direction, and
Speaker 4: as they were sitting there, parked Michael was just about
Speaker 4: to get out when they noticed one of the figures
Speaker 4: down below the bridge.
Speaker 3: It was at a downward and go off to their
Speaker 3: right just a little bit.
Speaker 4: They see this thing moving in and out in between
Speaker 4: some trees, is peeking up at him.
Speaker 3: What threw them off? This whole dark it was?
Speaker 4: He said, it was really black, but it appeared to
Speaker 4: have a lighter colored face, and they couldn't make out
Speaker 4: exactly the tone of the face at that distance. They
Speaker 4: were just confused by it, and they heard some splashing
Speaker 4: going on. They were like, that's weird. Michael Jim's out,
Speaker 4: has his rifle. He goes over to the side of
Speaker 4: the bridge, starts looking in the direction they're.
Speaker 3: Seeing this thing.
Speaker 4: He's sculping, but he's not out to shoot anything. He's
Speaker 4: trying to get a better idea of what the hell
Speaker 4: they're looking at. As he's doing that, he still hears
Speaker 4: the splashing, but he's not seeing anything at whatever's going
Speaker 4: on is just out of his sight. As he's assessing
Speaker 4: what's going on, the guard rail flow the bridge starts
Speaker 4: and he sits right next to it, leaned up against it,
Speaker 4: still tired and hungover.
Speaker 3: Adela Honesty as what was going on.
Speaker 4: So he was looking around, taking a beat every once
Speaker 4: in a while, just trying to see what was going on.
Speaker 4: And as he's doing that, he's the truck's right behind
Speaker 4: it about fifteen feet His parents are doing it. All
Speaker 4: of a sudden, his dad, Walter it starts laying on
Speaker 4: the horn Arnolds and gets his attention. He jumps up,
Speaker 4: runs over to his mom's passenger window to ask what
Speaker 4: the hell, and his dad's pointing across the street on
Speaker 4: the opposite side of the bridge. There was this feed
Speaker 4: here standing there about nine foot tall, kind of doing
Speaker 4: a little squat thing, and it was like doing this
Speaker 4: rock a by baby motion with his arms of us
Speaker 4: and they were all stereo, like, what the hell are
Speaker 4: we really looking at? So Michael's holding the rifle and
Speaker 4: he has no thought of even attempting a shot.
Speaker 3: It was the last thing in his mind, he say.
Speaker 4: Walter said that he felt like he was having heart
Speaker 4: palpitations because of the shock. Bernice was just kind of
Speaker 4: quivering crying on the verge of an all out breakdown
Speaker 4: because it was so surreal. It's standing there doing this
Speaker 4: squatting kind of baby rock and just creepy shit. But
Speaker 4: it seemed unafraid. It seemed unafraid of them. It didn't
Speaker 4: appear to be nervous. It started smiling. And that's when
Speaker 4: Michael couldn't hag. He started crying because it just seems
Speaker 4: so unreal. So he jumps in the back of the truck.
Speaker 4: He tells his dad, we gotta go. His dad Walter
Speaker 4: is still staring at the same transfixed. He is not hypnotized,
Speaker 4: per city, but he's just stuck on what the hell?
Speaker 4: So he gets Walter's attention. Michael deshon in the backs.
Speaker 4: He says, hey, dry dry, Dad drying. So they take
Speaker 4: off and they go back across the bridge the direction
Speaker 4: they had initially come from. Had to go down and
Speaker 4: road a little waves. Everyone was clearing their head. Walter
Speaker 4: snapped out of it. He goes, get my digital camera
Speaker 4: out of the glom box. We'll go back by and
Speaker 4: get picture in this same No one's gonna believe us.
Speaker 4: So they find spot. Turn around that toy huller. He
Speaker 4: did like an eight point turn on this little spot.
Speaker 4: They got turned around to come back. As they're about
Speaker 4: one hundred yards from that same bridge, they see one
Speaker 4: on the opposite side of where they were just parked
Speaker 4: run across the direction they saw the one standing. The
Speaker 4: one that was standing there initially was no longer there.
Speaker 4: So they slowed down and his mom's trying to turn
Speaker 4: on the camera, but the battery is dead. Everyone starts
Speaker 4: digging out their cell phone for the cell phone camera.
Speaker 3: All of them are dead.
Speaker 4: They'd been charging them on the road with the road charger,
Speaker 4: the plug in and the dash and what have you.
Speaker 4: It made no sense because they were up on keeping
Speaker 4: their GPS charge everything.
Speaker 3: They kept charge to the fullest at all times.
Speaker 4: Even if they just took a few photos, they would
Speaker 4: immediately recharge the battery. Because it's Alaska, you never know
Speaker 4: when you're going to get to another power source. And
Speaker 4: as they're coming up to the bridge, they get across
Speaker 4: it and they've slowed way down because they're still trying
Speaker 4: to figure out how we're going to get a picture
Speaker 4: of this. They really want to capture some kind of evidence.
Speaker 4: Now they got this safety and foot toy hauler behind them.
Speaker 4: As they come across the bridge and they go to
Speaker 4: start breaking, there's still nothing to be viewed. All they
Speaker 4: saw last was this thing crossover to where the one
Speaker 4: was standing, and there was no other activity going on.
Speaker 4: They're still in shock. Michael says, stop the truck. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go look over the bridge. I have my rifle.
Speaker 4: I'll be okay. Bernice is freaking out, saying, Helen go,
Speaker 4: so you stay in the truck.
Speaker 3: We'll just drive on.
Speaker 4: We don't need a picture. We don't have to tell anybody.
Speaker 4: Michael goes, I need to see what this thing is,
Speaker 4: so he jumps out. He immediately goes over to the
Speaker 4: guardrail because they haven't fully crossed the bridge yet and
Speaker 4: he's not far from the end of it, but he's
Speaker 4: up at a bandness point where he can look down
Speaker 4: into a little ravine the bake of the little creek
Speaker 4: or whatever to try to see what was going on.
Speaker 4: And they see nothing. His dad will saying, you have
Speaker 4: to know there's nothing there. Just go ahead, come on,
Speaker 4: and Michael goes, no, I'm gonna try. I'm gonna look
Speaker 4: on the other side. Pull forward a little bit because
Speaker 4: he didn't want to have to walk all the way
Speaker 4: around the backside of the boy hauler, and he didn't
Speaker 4: want to jump over the fifth little attachment, they said,
Speaker 4: and they had some stuff dangling down or something.
Speaker 3: It boiled down to He wanted his dad to pull forward,
Speaker 3: basically is what it was.
Speaker 4: So he does that. He around where Dad stopped a
Speaker 4: little short. He cuts around and goes to the other side,
Speaker 4: and he's looking down that direction. As he's looking down
Speaker 4: that direction, and Dad's got his window down and telling them, hey,
Speaker 4: it's not worth it. Just get in the truck. We'll
Speaker 4: just get the hell out of here, out of nowhere.
Speaker 4: Michael turns and bolts for the truck. He gets the truck,
Speaker 4: he jumps in and says go. Just as he's yelling go,
Speaker 4: they hear a bunch of rocks hitting the toy. Haull Er,
Speaker 4: just do it was real, loud dunts. They sent a picture,
Speaker 4: but it is fully decaled. In a family business, there
Speaker 4: is no way to show you guys have photo and
Speaker 4: keep their manymity.
Speaker 3: So the rocks mirage.
Speaker 4: For whatever reason, his dad only pulls forward just about
Speaker 4: forty fifty feet. Michael's saying, Dad, you gotta go. Bernice's
Speaker 4: breaking out. His dad was looking off the side of
Speaker 4: the road. As he was doing that. Michael noticed looking
Speaker 4: in between his paris because they were both transfixed in
Speaker 4: that direction. There was a very large one that appeared
Speaker 4: to have a tail flopping back and forth behind it.
Speaker 4: It was holding a boulder in its hands, almost in
Speaker 4: a I dare you to move, I dare you to
Speaker 4: do something kind of energy, is what they were saying
Speaker 4: when they felt it.
Speaker 3: Wasn't n mind speak or anything like that.
Speaker 4: It was strictly an expression on his face like it
Speaker 4: wanted a fight, like it wanted to throw the rock,
Speaker 4: basically because they had already been throwing rocks, and as
Speaker 4: a matter of fact, he doesn't remember them stopping throwing
Speaker 4: rocks until they left there. But what it ended up
Speaker 4: packing was Michael stuck the rifle out the window, popped
Speaker 4: around that startled it. It went down into the brush
Speaker 4: just out of you, and that's when his dad was
Speaker 4: able to snap out a bit gun it and they
Speaker 4: continued on up the Tailor Highway, following forty mile river
Speaker 4: on up to where they were going.
Speaker 3: Now, when they.
Speaker 4: Got to the place they were going, they tried to
Speaker 4: talk to the person they were going to meet, and
Speaker 4: the person they were going to meet was like just
Speaker 4: dismissive off the bat, because this is something they had
Speaker 4: known for several years in front of the family. You
Speaker 4: know what, I'm since Michael was in college, and Michael's
Speaker 4: good buddy was this person's son that were roommates in
Speaker 4: college and so on, so there was a history and
Speaker 4: they knew each other. They communicated over the years. This
Speaker 4: person was very dismissive, so they just basically shut down
Speaker 4: about it. I've heard of tale's ancient tales of these
Speaker 4: things having tales in the Copper River Valley up Hammers.
Speaker 4: Peterson did a show a while back calling name I
Speaker 4: forget what they called him, and his retelling of whatever
Speaker 4: incident was happening. These creatures had tales as well, So
Speaker 4: geographically speaking, it's not all that far from where the
Speaker 4: ancient tales of these things having tales and living in
Speaker 4: caves along river banks stem from. I don't know, but
Speaker 4: to hear about having tales about four foot long stick diameter,
Speaker 4: that's a totally new one to me. That happened approximately
Speaker 4: They got a hold of me at the beginning of
Speaker 4: the week and it had happened a few days before,
Speaker 4: so we're looking at a little over a week ago
Speaker 4: that this happened. Obviously traumatized. Just talking to them on
Speaker 4: the phone, you could hear the anxiousness in their voice
Speaker 4: as they spoke, because when one was talking, there'd be
Speaker 4: the other one in the background, like his mom Bernie
Speaker 4: would be saying, don't forget about the cameras dying things
Speaker 4: like that. They're all trying to get all the information
Speaker 4: on it once. So I had to kind of look
Speaker 4: at tell me what you saw totally, and you know,
Speaker 4: we'll take it from there.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 4: But I've never seen one or heard of one with
Speaker 4: the tale never really caught my attention. They said there
Speaker 4: was three total that they saw. Every single one of
Speaker 4: them had a tail. They were very sincere about what
Speaker 4: they felt they saw, so I can't just dismiss it
Speaker 4: because I'd never seen that. Also here in Alaska, I
Speaker 4: haven't come across a single good experience, even First Nations.
Speaker 3: It's all bad.
Speaker 4: There's no middle ground for gifting or then being forced friends.
Speaker 4: You're none of that, not a peer, not then I've
Speaker 4: heard grant sha, I'm not everywhere. No one has shared
Speaker 4: anything like that with me from up here. The only
Speaker 4: place I've heard that is from encounters down in the
Speaker 4: States or whatever. So I don't know, but something to
Speaker 4: think about. But you got my attention. Their description, their sincerity, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's intriguing. For sure, we'll catch on the next month.
Speaker 5: They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.
Speaker 6: See Joy, this chard, that chart, everything.
Speaker 3: Calling right back, right back, Joy for me, Joy stay right,
Speaker 3: you come.
Speaker 7: It right away. Still steps.
Speaker 2: Do do
Speaker 7: Do, dossssteassssssss