Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and Jim and welcome back to the Penguin
Review series. I'm the clown Princip Bliss dressed.
Speaker 2: Now I'm joined by I am the Runaway Koklab, Patzer,
the Squid Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: Yes, ladies and Jim and we are back episode three.
It's called Bliss. There you go, already done, so I've
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did you think of Episode three? Bliss non spoilers before
we get to spoilers.
Speaker 3: Man, this episode was awesome. I really freaking loved it,
and the intro to it totally set me for a
loop because I won't say exactly how it happens in
the events of this narrative, but just the way the
episode opened up focusing on a certain character, and yeah,
shit hits the fan. I was just thinking, like, man,
where the fuck is Batman? Like all this shit's going down, Like,
where the fuck is Batman? Like just letting this happen?
But they answered that that question.
Speaker 1: I will say so first of all, also, how is
he supposed to stop said thing like that? Like, what's
he supposed to say?
Speaker 3: I can't say, because it's it's we're non spoiler some
money at it, that's what he's gonna do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Just I it's the way that they did that scene
in comparison to the episode. I can't say anything. I
have to wait to get the spoilers. It just threw
me for a loop for a second, until after I realized, like, oh, okay,
this makes sense.
Speaker 1: Thinking this is the worst Batman ever. Taylor is over there,
like what's he doing? Crimes up for this? Another big
eveng just happened? My god.
Speaker 3: But yeah, overall, this is a fantastic episode and I'm
really really loving Colin Farrell's Penguin. My God, he's just
really really delivering. I'm loving the vic Is character Sophia, Like,
I'm really enjoying all these different characters in this show,
and is the storyline that we're getting is super engaging,
and I feel like I'm just getting sucked into this,
this narrative and it's just it's fantastic. I'm really liking
the show a lot more than I thought I would. Again,
there's just a few tense moments, but other than that,
it's just it's really really good, really well written, and
this episode has just kept me on my toes and
I'm excited to see what happens next week because this
episode Ends'm a big cliffhanger, so I'm super jazzed and
i can't wait for for episode four.
Speaker 1: Yeah what about you, Patzer?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I continue to absolutely love this show. I was
really really happy with what we got specifically around like Victor.
This episode. I feel like I really really am invested
now in this character. I was already kind of liking him,
but this one was definitely like the focused episode. I
feel like, not just him, but just like there's a
lot of stuff in there for him, and I'm yeah,
I'm just really liking this inclusion in the overall story
that's going on. The other two leads are just they're
they're they're still fantastic and the show I feel like
they're doing a good job, but like making me think
that everything can be alright with like everyone in this show.
It's just like, yeah, this is kind of going well.
I'm liking everyone working together, and it's just like, oh, yeah, right,
there's an impending doom that I feel like it's just
maybe everyone is just gonna die or something like horrible
is gonna happen. Like I don't think this is gonna
be a nice, feel good ending to this show. But
so far, I'm really enjoying the ride and h yeah,
it's just it's it's really fantastic what's going on, and
I'm just I'm excited for next week. And yeah, no,
I think it's just it's continuing to be like at
that caliber. I think I think at the start of
this episode, maybe kind of with what Taylor was alluding
to there, I was a little bit questioning on like
what was going on. I was like, oh, like this
is this is a little bit concerning here, but I
wasn't really I wasn't really looking for bat Man like
Taylor was in that sequence, and then I don't know,
it's just like the light bulb turns on. It's like
oh yeah, right, okay, we're all good and yeah. It
ended up making me, just like other aspects of the show,
you more once it. I don't know, move past that point,
but I think that's all safe for now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard for me to say anything because you
guys just said everything I would have said. So I'm
gonna just leave for the night. You guys are gonna
take over.
Speaker 2: I'm good, So all right, have a good night. We'll
take your shares for this episode.
Speaker 1: I just try three quote abortions. But no, I agree
with what Kirkham just said. Where when we start talking
about the show in the previews, I when I saw
the Victor characters, like, eh, this could be like a
down point because that happens the allo the time. It's like, oh,
young prog. It's like I don't know, like I like
calling for Farrell's penguin like I don't need and what
they're doing. Of course, the show was like Soprano is
a very like mob like but this made me really
want to rewatch one of my favorite movies, the top
ten movie Goodfellas. I fucking love Goodfellas, and that aspect
of the youngster in the mob and learn in the ways,
and then also seeing the old timer like kind of
take a shane to them, which we had seen for
previous weeks. But I feel like this was really cementing
the relationship between Penguin and Victor, and man, is that
gonna hurt more when fucking just destroys Victor in like
five episodes, Like you know, that's what's gonna happen, right,
But because he's already there's some stuff where it's like, ah,
there's he's still a good person. But I loved how
we learned more things about them because it's stuff were
asking last week, like hey, what's the deal with this family?
What's the deal? Like where does he live? All this stuff?
And they're answering a lot of it. So that was great.
Another connection he has I thought was great, so high
octane stuff. I love all the mom moves going on.
This to me was the best and my favorite episode,
even though the pilot was great. There's just something I
love all the inner workings and this, like already I
thought with the you know, partnership of Sophie and Penguin's like,
maybe get a week one or week two of there'd
be like a truce. But it's like already, it's like
you feel like these guys are this guy and Gal
are ready to pull a knife on each other and
just stab each other in the back right away or
in front, like to their face, calling each other out
a little sly shots. Oswald's trying to do his best,
you know, secretive game, but Sophia is so good at
sniffing that out. And again I always wonder, like how
much does Sofia actually know and out like it's it's
so good with all the different moving pieces we got
going on, I don't think I have much cons other
than one little setup they did to a character I
thought was very easy and won a little bit more on.
I think it's been a story the whole time, Like
this still doesn't make that much sense to me, but
I do understand a bit more. But no, this is
a joy every week, and it keeps ramping up and
ramping up, and yeah, this ending on like a cliffing
or the other ones have ended on like oh I
can't wait to see it next, or a little bit like, oh,
what's what's going like was immediately right after this is
literally like, okay, that shit had hit the fan a
lot sooner than I thought it was gonna again. And
that even happened in the pilot. So and yeah, you know,
as me went on Tampa, but Colin Farrell over week Man,
like he he's fucking so so good, Like it's gonna
be almost a shame when we get to the Batman tune,
He's gonna be back to like only fifteen to twenty
minutes in the movie. And I'm always gonna be happy
this series exists because like, not that I have the
time nowadays to rewatch shows, but I feel like almost
when I rewatch the Batman trilogy, if we get it's like,
I feel like this is gonna be essential part that'll
have to plug in there. Maybe it won't be all
like a binge, but maybe like, oh, an episode every
week or something, because I just love this character and I,
you know, I I they're doing a great job with
this show, so I can't wait to see what is next.
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tear field. H yeah, you thought that was like a
fraud here or something. What was your guys exactly? So
I did knew exactly where we were, but you guys
were I did not really worried.
Speaker 2: For I did not, so yeah, I'll just say that
I think it was episode one. I was worried about
the real like relevate, relevate revelation of seeing maybe like
some of Victor's family or something, and like knowing that, oh,
he actually has a family, and it makes no sense
why he just hasn't talked to them these whole time,
that he's like stuck with Penguin. And then that's where
I'm like, oh, no, like like I really hope this
isn't the case that he has like a really nice family,
and like like it just doesn't make sense that he
would be with Penguin. And then yes, of course, when
when the explosion started going off, I got like really hyped.
It was like a nice I don't know, just just yeah, surprised.
I'm just knowing where it was, and I'm like, okay, no,
like for the story purpose, I'm really happy that this
is happening, even though it's really sad. And yeah, it
was really intense way to start the episode. So like
right away, I was just hell, yeah, this show is
just so fucking good. So I was hyped there, but
I was worried that, yeah, I was gonna maybe leave
some questions going back to like the earlier episodes when
it's just like, who the hell does Victor have and
like why is nobody looking for him? You know, like
he just has all this free time. But yeah, no,
it makes sense. And we saw the scene here. It
was intense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did not realize it until I saw the
flood that this was this was the technically the end
of the Batman. So when we see Victor with his
family and everything like that, I thought, Okay, he was
just lying telling Penguin and whatnot, like, Okay, his family
is dead when they're really not. And so yeah, yeah,
when he was on the roof and the explosions were
going off, and I'm I'm thinking okay in my head
right now, I'm thinking, okay, this is after the events
of the first movie and these explosions. The whole city
is just blowing up again. This is why I'm thinking,
what the fuck is Batman doing? He's letting the city
just blow up now. And so that's when I realized, oh,
the flood, Okay, this is just the Riddler's doing. I'm like, Okay,
that makes sense. Now I know where the Batman is.
Speaker 1: At the explosions. I thought you saw the flood, also thought.
Speaker 3: It was just the explosions. Once I saw the water
port and I thought, Okay, that's that's where I realize
where we're at now.
Speaker 2: So I will say too. Once I as soon as
the explosions started going on, including where we were, I'm like, man,
somewhere right now, Riddler is just hooting and hollering in
his cell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dying. Yeah. Mike put in the discord and I
had the exact same thought. It reminded me of the
you know, spoilers friend game, but the opening scene of
endgame when you got to see Hawk. I go through
the snap and it was like seeing real world happen,
and that's where it's like we're watching the Batman. It is.
That is the Riddler's big evil combook plan is He's
gonna flood the city, right, and you just think about
it as an option, an object that Batman needs to stop. Okay,
the city, which he didn't, but the flood needs to
save people all that stuff, right. But then when you
see it from the perspective of not only the townspeople
just watching it, but then someone literally knowing where their
home is, their family home is, and just seeing the
water destroy that building and like anything and realize a
flood anything like that, it's just they're gone like that,
there's nothing you can do. It is equivalent to like
the Snap and Endgame where within seconds the family's gone.
There's there's really nothing you can do. Victor says to
stand there and watch, and that's where it's also that
really puts in a perspective and I like that because
Sophia called him a madman again this episode of Penguin's
done that before. We talked about that, where you know,
the mob looks at Riddler and like scum even though
they are killing, they could be you know, raping whatever,
stealing all this stuff, but to them, Riddler's he's way
below us. But it does kind of show because at
the end of the day, it's like a good fella's
departed thing, scarface, good father, whatever you want to say.
It's like our godfather, not good father. I don't know
who the father is, but the Godfather, Like there's always
like a code with them offia, Right, you know, if
you get loan sharks, then you might get fucked up.
If you get in their way, you're and get fucked up.
But if you can, if you're not a cop and
you leave them be, you know, you're doing your own thing.
Where the Riddler did just go and take out thousands
of innocent people, right, the mob would look at that
and be probably disgusted because, oh, we would never do that.
We would never just release a bomb that would just
kill a bunch of people. So I think that kind
of was good of even though like I don't want
Penguin to be sympathetic, it again showed that that hierarchy
of Okay, yeah, the mob is really bad. They deal drugs,
they take advantage of people, but they're not just like
wiping out cities now, you know, and that's to them
even they look at them like what a this like
what a freak? What a mad like terrible person. And
that's where it kind of helps seeing from Victor's point
of view, if yeah, boots on the ground, just this flawed,
just and you have no idea, Like Batman knows what's
going on. So in the movie we know, oh, there's
gonna be explosions something, but here's just a random like
imagine that if we're here just random things going on
and explosions and the city just flowed yourself and you
have no idea, you have no context, you don't know
the Riddler's doing this to your mind. You've heard them
the news Riddler got arrested, So it's just it. I
thought it was really well done and put in this
perspective big time of what it would feel like not
knowing this huge event was happening, And it made me
buy in a Victor more because it's just like, what
do you do now? You know your whole family's gone
in a night. So just terrible stuff. And then we
also meet I can't remember her name, do you guys
remember her name? His little You're just gonna guess.
Speaker 3: I'll say it was like Marcia or something like that.
It's it's like Grace yella.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm not gonna say like, I'm gonna wait till
somebody gets me an actual factor. But anyways, they introduce.
Speaker 2: The B name. I just don't know how to pronounce it.
Speaker 1: Okay, what is it as spelled g.
Speaker 2: R A c I E l A.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, So his love interests his love interest.
I don't know if they were just messing around or
we're boyfriend and girlfriend. But she was with him when
the explosion happened. Well yeah, but doesn't mean your boyfriend girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think their boyfriend girl.
Speaker 1: I mean, and we were still macing but we're just
friends with benefits. You know, we're still amazing officially. Yeah,
but no, like they either way, they are some sort
of couple. And that kind of explains last week. We said,
remember he's getting those texts and we were like, well again,
what's the deal with his family her? You know, he's
lying with his ghost family. But it's her. She's gonna
leave Gotham. She's like the most smartest person in Gotham,
like smarter than persuade. Just a signing we got to
get out of here.
Speaker 2: I thought she was going to say the same place. Uh,
Selina Kyle was going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she she's smart. Not just go like an hour
from golf and she's actually going to California, which I
would imagine it's cities and cities away, but she goes.
It's a classic setup, right of she's gonna go to California.
She asked me with him, and he's like hootering a home.
He's not hooter holl but he's humming about like, oh,
should I go? Should I not go? And of course
me and the chair, I'm like, just go. You gotta go, man,
because you're not gonna make it out of this show
if you don't go to California. But you know, he
did not go. He chose to let her leave. But
I thought in the few scenes they had together they
had some chemistry going on. Like I said, I wanted
him to go, but he didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like you. I was really hoping for you know,
his own safety, he would leave and go on that train,
but her bus, I guess it was, but the figurative train.
I feel like it just sounds better in that sense.
But no, I knew right away that he wasn't gonna
do it, just because I don't know, it's a little
bit too easy to send off for the character. And
I did really like just the sea at the end
when he is on the fence and then he has
just Oz's words in the back of his mind and
just kind of like the legacy thing that that he
was just going on about. And I don't know, I
just felt like a really big moment for that character,
even though it was for his own safety a bad decision,
it was just a really big, I don't know, just
showcase of kind of what his mindset's at because up
until this point, like he was just kind of a
loyal foot soldier, but you kind of just get the
impressions because he's so scared of Oz and like he
doesn't really have anything else. But now it's like, oh,
he actually has bigger plans. He was already kind of
talking about Oz about more of a partnership role when
they were talking about whatever the gig was, So yeah, no,
I I just I don't know, I really like that moment.
But as soon as yeah, at the end, when the
when the lady friend gets on the bus and he's
just sitting in the car, I just turned to share.
I'm like, oh, yeah, he's gonna die, Like man, he
just that's that's the nail on the coffin right there.
But uh, I don't know, I'm excited to see the
journey and just kind of see going forward after especially
the way that he saves Oz at the end, like
if he's gonna have a bigger role in the in
the overall things, just planning wise and not just being
like the the bag boy or whatever he was in
this episode.
Speaker 1: Well, and it kind of felt like too, because they
had that conversation about Oz, you know, just just being like,
I don't know to me like I should. He'll be like, yeah,
your dad wuld be proud of you, like he knows
he doesn't know anything I was dad. He's just saying
that's like a mobster, right. I'm like, yeah, your dad'd
be so proud you're doing this stuff. He's just putting
his own like his fatherly figure into him. But then
later on we get that conversation where Victors is out, no,
my dad wouldn't be proud of me. He'd be ashamed
of me. But that's where I was wondering if that
was gonna be. Oh, eventually Penguin's gonna make him do
something that goes too far. But at the end of
this episode, vict decides to ram a person with his vehicle,
So I think we're past. I think he's like accepted
what Penguin said of like you could work your whole life,
work hard, and it's gonna amount to nothing. So now
I'm wondering what the breaking point was because I thought
it was gonna be, oh, he'd do something way too bad.
But now he's he's killing people. So it's like, well,
that's not the breaking point. And to correct myself, Supermic says,
actually he was talking about Kate Bishops seeing uh as
New York and the Battle the Battle of New York
as a kid, which, yeah, that's another good example too.
That's it. That's more so the boots in the ground situation.
But uh yeah, Taylor, you think you should have gone
with the girl. You know, God, I'm glad he didn't.
Speaker 3: I like, I don't want victory to get and he's
not gonna die. No, I think he's gonna you what,
he's gonna survive the show.
Speaker 1: No, he's gonna be strung from the roof and Penguin's
gonna be being with a fucking bat being like trust
to you your pastured?
Speaker 3: Like nohing, he just pulled through. He saved Penguin's life. Here.
He was the bag man like, do you seriously think this?
I seriously think he's gonna survive the show.
Speaker 1: Enough for a pizza bit, not that if Kirkland.
Speaker 3: If Kirkland also wasn't on your side, I would do it.
But because he showed his hands, I don't feel like.
I feel like maybe there's a chance, but I don't
feel confident in making a pizza bet because I'm out
numbered here.
Speaker 1: That's it's not out numbered like anyone else. And then
I might believe with you too. I just think that, like,
we've had two weeks in a row where Penguin snapped
at him. Now, obviously it always comes back down.
Speaker 3: I've got to create the tension, the dangerous life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just feel like there's gonna a time
where the snap goes too far, and whether Penguin, like
out of rage, kills him.
Speaker 3: I think he just even like maybe at the start,
when I watched that first episode, I thought, okay, he
could easily rage kill because of just how everyone else
is treating him and how he did rage kill the
other Falcone brother.
Speaker 1: Uh this episode two yes, put the phone down his throat.
Speaker 3: My god, yeah, Jesus Craky.
Speaker 1: With you, Mike's with you? Do it too, Mike.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not gonna do it. Uh so. I I
do think though, that he's after seeing these episodes and
seeing how he's really opened up to Vic, It's just
a side of Penguin I was not expecting. And that's
why I do think he's just really kind of got
him on the inside in this position where I don't
think he's gonna do something like that to him. I think,
especially because he genuinely let him go after all the
threats he made, he genuinely let him go. And I
think all the crying that we got with him and Sophia,
I I don't think that was necessarily like him, just
like dealing with the Sofia shit. I feel like he
was just upset because Vic left, and he actually cares
about Vic a lot, and so Sophia just was giving
him a shit time, and that's why he started to
get sentimental, because I think he was pissed off about
the Vic thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go that far. I don't think
Penguin was sitting there crying because of Vic. I don't.
I don't. I didn't read it that way.
Speaker 3: I've been not crying about Sophia because he's like Fox
Nofia lever and let's go Vic. When he's like Vic,
I know you come back Vic, like I knew it,
Like he's all about Vic.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. Yeah, it's tough because like I don't know,
his whole speech was that he still cared about her,
but him leaving, Yeah, him, that was another like what
a double of ahead.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I like, howe before too,
He's like, you know, I'm gonna give you like all
these other reasons to trust me, and then like right,
it's like, okay, that's another reason not.
Speaker 1: To this day, you know. And that's the thing. That's
where what I love about this Penguin character. And that's
where tailor to your to my counter to you is
you're buying hook and hook line and sinker. But he's
one day gonna do that the Vic. I think, yeah, sure,
Vic might be gone, and I don't think he's crying
because Vic, but let's say he is. There's gonna come
down to a time where it's Penguin or Vic, and
Penguin every time is gonna pick himself. And that's where
he's show you think we'll get that, yes, And I
think Penguin. It showed he just gave this huge emotional
speech to Sophia and then like thirty seconds later, you know,
like I just think that he is. That's great, Like
he wants to be a character. He wants to be
that boss. And he talked about the beginning this show
right of like oh, he used to throw parade for him.
I think that's what he wants to be. He wants
to be that respected crime boss bather than day he
has like a piece of shit, like like Carmen calls
them back and he's like, oh, you're just like he
Before Carmen dies, he just says some about Oz always
just kind of being pathetic, and then even talking about
this episode two where they people keep him around because
they're scared of him, not because he's not made man,
just because like he's entertaining, and that has to be
like the most gut punch because like he probably thinks, yeah,
I'm a man here, but really like anyone could kind
of cap him at any point. Sophia said, you're not
a made man. You're not. You don't have that no
kill clause, right uh, And Sadar says, is Penguin better
than Gotham TV series. Yeah, absolutely, as someone that's washed
all of the Gotham I know, you guys haven't even
just three episodes. It's better. Robin mooreto does a really
good job of Penguin, but it's a very much more
the whiny like kind of wimpy Penguin. But he's really
really good in it. But yeah, Pharrell's Like I agree
with a listener Chris Evans. He said that ping Colin
Farrell is to ping hit what he fled her was
the joker, and I completely agree. I think, like now
everybody going forward, if they ever play Penguin, Wan, Colin
Farrell is the He's the fucking bar now like I
love to veto, you know, but like sorry, Farrell's Pharaoh's
the guy. But yeah, I anyway, sorry. I was shocked
by the two things. One, the Falcone family just rolling
up being like you're fucking us, like you're working both sides,
especially the Maroons. Yeah, thank you guys. The Maroney's showing
up and like, oh my, like I thought that was
gonna happen but not episode three. And then yeah, just
leaving Sophia like how like how's he gonna spin this?
I don't know if he's gonna be like, oh, I
thought you were safe, Like I don't know. And this
is where I think if she didn't already start looking
into the mom other things, I think she might say,
oh yay, I like she's gonna pretend that she believes
Oz's bullshit lies. But I think now her guard is
gonna be wigh the fuck up, you know. Oh God.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to add on what you're talking
about Oz in general and just kind of like how
the show is making us believe that like he is
that that genuine nice guy and you know, like the
whole old time gangster like that through a parade. Like
I totally agree with you that that's kind of what
he kind of wants to see him like as like
just his legacy when he's all said and done. But
I feel like when the shit hits a fan, that's
when like his true nature comes out. And like we've
already got to see that a couple of times in
this show and even just in The Batman, and I
love just the little triggers that he gets when like
someone calls him a rat and like right away he's
just like so defensive. Yeah, like like he's he is
just so different than like what he is trying to
like portray. And I like that the show is really
doing a good job at tricking the viewer. And like,
like as I was saying earlier, like there's multiple times
in the show I'm like, man, this could work out,
you know, like him and Sophia working out. They're gonna
be selling bliss and like making all this money. Vic's
gonna be you know, like a nice up and comer.
Maybe maybe go to California if he wants, Like everything
could be fine. And then some of these moments after
you like, oh yeah, never mind, he's just he's just
a fucking He's just he's a criminal. And and I
love that they're staying true to that like original essence
of what the character is, because he is an extremely
flawed character. And I'm just enjoying kind of following him
along because I loved him in his small role in
The Batman, but to like actually be spending a lot
of time with him, like I feel like it could
it could have gone really south a show like this
of just if you don't have like a really strong
character that's like well written and obviously the performance go
hand in hand, but now they're they're doing such a
good job at just uh yeah, just just making us
question kind of what's gonna happen around Oz and the
people around him, and yeah I did. And then how
we ended off with Sophia. I feel like this is
gonna be This is like a like a crossing the
line type moment where like, I don't think their relationship
was already rocky, but I don't think it'll ever be
back to whatever strength it was at from this point.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's why they did it too, because they
gave us this scene of him giving the speech and
us thinking like, oh, they might like she might be
on board with them, and then literally next seeing him
shitting on that. And that's where because what we this
is eight episodes, right, I think we've had this confirm, right,
So next week is the halfway point, so I could
kind of see that because I feel like, no matter
what could be earlier, but to me, the reveal of
her figuring out he's killed Alberto is at least episode seven,
and that because it could even be six, right, So
it's like next week we're already halfway through, so we're
getting through, and that's the thing like not like fucking
Disney Plus shows. These are actually an hour where like
these characters get to really develop and dive into things
and have conversations. So it's not just gonna be like,
oh I found out you kill my brother and then
a shootout Sophia dies, that's the finale twenty three minutes ago.
It's like, no, it's gonna be a long like thing,
which is good. So that's where like next week, I
don't even know, like, are the Maroni's gonna have her
kidnap for a while? Are they gonna talk? And I
wonder even is there a way that, like I doubt happens,
but is there a way like Sophie and the Maroni's
like like because of Oswald, find like some sort of
common ground because they if her pitch is, hey, I
want to take down the falcones and make them my own?
Did they go with that, and like, I don't know,
It's it's very interesting because the same way she went
with Yeah. I think they're called the Triad, right, I
think in this Yeah, they hated her father and her father,
they fought their father, pushed them the Chinatown and they
the guy even said that like oh yeah, your dad,
like I opened up a bottle of wine when I
found he was daaning. She's like, well, when I could
I dance on his grave? So that's where it's just
like she's working with people already that did not like
her family or her father. So I wonder if there's
gonna be a full episode we're next week, we might
not even see Sophia for a while, and it's like, fuck,
what happened to her? And then she gets back It's like,
oh yeah, like I got out of that situation. But
I could see her pulling the wool over his eyes
again too, where he's gonna think he makes it good
with her, makes it good with the Maroni's, and then
the Maroni's and her just fucking over. Like that's all.
There's so many different angles they could go with this,
because like I said, what are what are? What are
the Moronis and her gonna talk about? Like it's gonna
be about oz right, They're just gonna like, you know,
I don't know if they're gonna just pop her, but
they could have done that already. I don't know. It's
it's intriguing, So I don't know, what do you think, Taylor?
What What's gonna happen with Sophia next week. We're gonna
see her right away. She can get that situation, she
would be.
Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna see her. I think we're
gonna get We're gonna get probably a very heavy Maroney
centric episode. I mean, we don't even know what Sal
was talking to him about before Sophia arrived in this episode, right,
so I think that there's just some unfinished business going
on here. And yeah, it's just it's curious to know too,
Like what is it that triggered the Maronis to like,
hey we were yeah she as she said, uh, we're
watching you for the past few weeks, we would know
and all that kind of stuff. He's trying to like
double take us down.
Speaker 1: Or we remember they told him to bring that guy
back alive and Penguin fucking killed him. Now they don't
know that Penguin killed him, but they shouldn't get him
back alive.
Speaker 3: Yeah they didn't, that's true, But I feel like they
would have acted on it sooner or something like that,
or like why would Sal like what would Sal not
like be pissed at him on the phone. I feel
like there was just would have been something else to it,
like why would you attack him in that situation right there,
I was on the side of a triads club, Like
it just seems risky.
Speaker 1: They could, Yeah, I wonder if they were gonna try
to see if he was gonna come to them and
say something, or if there's gonna be something revealed, like
maybe they were gonna give him like the old expression
of like enough rope to hang himself, Like Okay, maybe
he's gonna get to us eventually. You can't get it
to us right now, or just like maybe they have
a connection in the triad, right maybe the Triad it's like, yeah,
they're doing all this shit and they would be like, oh,
why is he trying to set up shot with Sophia now?
So it could be that.
Speaker 2: So that's a lot of things they could ask him about.
Speaker 3: There a lot of things like the big thing here
and again like I don't think we'll see Sophia. If
we do, it'll be very briefly. But the thing I
think Sophia is going to wonder is Okay, like my
main trustworthy henchman got killed because he was the mole
right working with the Moroni's, and so now that's all
a lie. So you're telling me that it's Oz, and
so that'll probably rock her. But I just what I
love about the show is Oz already has it worked out.
He's got it figured out. What he's gonna tell her
to get out of the situation. I mean, if you
can get out of a scenario where she thinks you
killed your brother or her brother, and I mean now
you're like trying to lead up to being best friends.
I mean, it's just that's just quite a scenario. And
he's just so charismatic as a character, more than I
ever thought i'd ever expect, like a penguin to possibly be.
Speaker 1: This is a tough one though the Maroni. It is
so so Fia finds out he's been working with the Maronis,
I'm sure Penguin's gonna try to sweet talk and me like, yeah,
I'm just doing that for us and the cause stuff.
But like that, it's like I said, I think this
is officially Sofia is gonna have even more worried about
him now because I just I don't know, We'll see.
He could be like fucking Walter White, which this episode
reminds me of Breaking Bad when like there's a certain
shoot on a character just drives and runs someone over.
That's exactly what how. I thought he was gonna try
and clear and hit them, all three of them, but
he just took out the one guy and then took
out himself. So maybe not the best, but you know,
I agress.
Speaker 2: When the Maroni's first showed up, I actually thought the
scene was gonna like play on into like a full
on dialogue sequence, and I thought, I don't know, I
guess I just trust Oz's excellent bullshitting, Like I thought
he was gonna somehow like get it. So Sophia is
kind of in like with the Maronis and like like
like just to like overthrow like the like the current
Maroni kind of hierarchy because because in the last episode
it kind of set up just Sophia was already kind
of button heads those guys kind of the whole show.
Actually she has been, so it would have been believable
to have I mean, we already have her in Oz
against that, so it's like, hey, we have this powerful
ally that could make this, but like no, right away,
they just the guns come out and and then it
goes to Vick's perspective. So it definitely did not play
out how I thought it was going to but yeah, no,
it's uh. I'm very excited to get that dialogue between
Sophia and the uh forget the lady's name, but yeah,
she was. She was fantastic. So I'm excited to just
get those two actresses like bouncing off of each other.
Speaker 1: I hope it happens better happened next week. I don't
want to be like we learn about their conversations off screen,
like we should see them talking. And I guess for Penguin,
I guess it would be better for her to die
because he's already got Jimmy Vetty by the balls now
like kind of literally, which I this said it was
kind of weird, So I'll get there. I'll get there.
Let me come back to this. So he's got them
like buy the balls and like you know, he's got
them degree with everybody, and he knows what the drug
is now this bliss which I did look it up.
It is a lucigenet drug in DC. I don't think
it's been specifically just tied to Gotham, but it has
been all around. People are already being like, all this
means poison Ivy is gonna be in the show. She's
at Arkham. I'm not gonna go that far. But again,
like that, it was that I was really hoping. I
didn't know how Like when they talk about new drug
and they come from Arkham, I'm like, fuck, is this
gonna do a scarecrow like something? Do that? But I'm like,
I guess you can't really sell that drug. They're like, oh,
take this hit, what does it do? It makes you
fucking fear? Yeah, let you try.
Speaker 2: Let me try.
Speaker 1: You sit down with the the triad lad like look
at the product and look at there, and one's like
like screen like, yeah, I don't think I want that drug.
Like so that's how sixty bucks I hit. Yeah, that's
how I when I thought, They're like, yeah, it can't
be the fear talks and drug. But I love that
even though just like in The Batman, like the drop
heads they have like the cool smiley face design and
they go in your eyes and they just have like
that drop like it's something like it's real world but
feels comic Bookie. This like drug like like growing off
of like a mushroom. Again, that feels something like, Okay,
it's not real world, but it's like kind of comic Bookie,
So again, I love that. I love the look. It
looked like the blue crystal meth in Breaking Bad but red.
Like I loved this like new drug and I actually
can't remember where the fuck I was going at all
with my point here, but I did like the drug
and I did like the tied Arkham that that's how
she got. It's a drug that they give to people
at Arkham's. Like oh fuck, super oh that's what I'm saying.
She can die now because he knows what the drug
is and he knows the situation. He's already at the triad,
So that's why it almost would be better for him
for her to die right now, not by his hands.
But you know that's not what happens. Sophia's too tough,
you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but do you think about bliss drug? I
I really you got something.
Speaker 1: That flyes coming after me? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I took a couple hits of Fear before the cast.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I I really like the inclusion of It's
funny when they first showed like the mushrooms, in my
mind just goes like Last of Us and like the
fucking what do they call the cordyceps courtceps mushrooms. It's like,
what the hell's like, what's gonna come out of these
these mushrooms? And I liked how Oz his first reaction was,
is like, honey, come on, like if you didn't know,
like it's so easy to get like mushrooms if you
need a Gotham like just you can get like any
drug you want. And then just kind of how they
they turned that into what it is. I like the
little lab guy that they had and yeah, I don't know,
it's just it's it's an interesting look at like a
a new inclusion of like a comic book drug like this,
because like normally, you know, you jump in Batman, it's like, hey,
they got this drug running around, and but like this
is more like the crime side on the street kind
of use of it. And I'm curious if it's going
to carry on after the show kind of into the
Batman two.
Speaker 1: I think so, I think just the look of like
I don't think it's going to be like, oh, the
drug that Batman's going after. But the same with the
drop heads were an element right like the beginning of
the movie, there's a guy with the bag and he
has to get him, but yeah, I think they will
definitely be in there. And I think even though I
said the mushroom thing like it like it has like
a cool aesthetic to it. But uh, I just love
that someone kind of DC database side effects addiction Okay, cool, Yeah,
transcending emotional ties as well, so that's interesting. I don't
know what that could. But again with Matt reason, I
think there's like a reason but yeah, a new take
on that. But it's a psychic connector between Bluh to
expand his mental capacity. Okay, nothing, nothing really origin a
highly addictive designer Hallucingen HARVARDI stood from the body chemistry
of young children by drug Kingpin Elijah, So definitely different
in this one. I would imagine, I don't think the
mushrooms are coming from the young children, but I digress.
Speaker 2: So the callucigen I also wanted to shout, I really
like the moment when they're pitching it to like the
leader of the triads there and Sophia's just kind of
like showcasing that, like look at like everyone in here,
and just how fucked up the world of Gotham is
right now, Like it's not a happy place, but you
have all these people in here just have the time
in their lives. I'm so happy. And they're just gonna
be chasing that feeling as you just listed in the
DEZ database. You know, it's addictive, so they're gonna be
going back for more. And I don't know. It was
just a good little business pitch that they laid out
and also just reminding us of Yeah, no, Gotham is
a horrible place right now. The floods have destroyed the
good infrastructure of the city and people are just spending
what little dollars they have just go party in this
club and h m hm.
Speaker 1: And I didn't even think about this, but yeah, they
confirm that Victor just has like massive PTSD. He sees
something that looks like an explosi then he just freaks
on the club. That one. Prosula definitely is gonna be
hooking up with Victor at some point, right she seems
way too interested in him, and she's a single man now,
she's a single man. She helped him with the drugs
when he freaked out. I thought that was over for Victor.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I cringed, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Would those drugs fell? I'm like, oh fuck, A bunch
of people are gonna go on the ground, start taking
him and the supplies going. I'm like, fuck, he's that's
it for him, But no, she helped him out, so yeah,
he's a single man. So Nat Tay, what do you
think of this new drug? Is it just just a
drug for the show? Is going to lead anywhere? What
are you thinking?
Speaker 3: I think it'll lead somewhere. I think it's it's a
great ground zero point to kind of get more immersed
into this world. And I think that if you you
aren't focusing on the penguin as the main villain in
the next movie, but you have elements of Bliss popping up,
then people could be like, Okay, this is how the
Penguin kind of ties in and a little in a
little bit of a relation to the main narrative of
the Batman part too. So I think it's I think
it's definitely going to continue on. I don't think it'll
be wrapped up here, And I think it's just it's
a good nod towards like the Underground and the crime syndicates.
So regarding what else did you guys.
Speaker 1: Talk about, We talked about Triad a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the dynamic between Sophia and the Triads.
I liked all that. I think it was pretty cool
U vic in the club just bumping around being the
bag man. I think that was pretty fun. He was
embracing that role. And on top of that, beforehand when
they were trying to arrange their meeting with the Triads,
initially so Oz and Sophia were in that club, and
so they left Vic in Penguin's car and he basically
had the huge bag of supply of drugs and a
cop shows up, and I just I didn't know how
this is gonna go. And I really thought, like, man,
Vic's already fucked up. He's gonna fuck up again. This
is not great. But just how he's casually just getting
step by step more into this world and he likes
it too. You can definitely out. So when the cops like, oh,
you got a lot of money for a kid, and
he just casually is like, what money? I don't have
any money, and the cop just takes it and like
lets him off. It's like he played, he played.
Speaker 2: That's this money good? Just a restame right there.
Speaker 3: Down and starts the sh out of him where are
the other trucks going?
Speaker 1: You know? It's so funny I thought about this and
just looks while you're talking the guy who is the
leader of the Triads, he was also the leader of
whatever group was in Birds of Prey and the same
thing Black Mass was like trying to convince him to
join up. And their families didn't get along with the
psionicis and he's the family that they string upside down
and kill and everything like that. So he's twice in
golf and play like a mob boss. You have to.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say it too. He's like the leader
of the lost, like the Dharma initiative. He's like in
all the videos. I thought of that as soon as
I saw the chap's face. Yeah, not as exciting of
a role, you know, not not a gangster.
Speaker 1: But no, that's a shoutout. Yeah let's break and then
we'll be right back, and we're back, So where we
want to go next?
Speaker 2: I just quickly wanted to add on to that scene
between Vic and the cop. I really love that moment because, yeah,
it shows that, you know, Vick's getting a little bit
more of a maybe more comfortableness when it comes to
just how to handle like the business. And I like
when Oz just getting hype Later on. He's like, oh, yeah, man,
it's just cost a business. Like you handled it well,
and like just just everything that they're they're talking about.
But it also just again reminds us of how corrupt
Gotham is. It's just like, oh yeah, no, like this
the massive flood and cops are still as corrupt as
ever and you can just kind of do what you
want as long as you have money for it. So
it's just also good world. I feel like this world
already feels like the same Gotham that we experienced from Batman.
They're doing a really good job at that. But yeah,
that's just like another add on to that. And yeah,
I liked it, like seeing some corrupt cops in Gotham.
Some things will just never change.
Speaker 1: Oh never change, you know. Back to that money conversation one,
I like when he lost the money and like he said, he's, oh,
it's costume business, Like he didn't replace the one grand,
which Penguin could do. Penguin at He said, Oh, yeah,
I gotta give you some sort of pay. You know,
we haven't talked about your contract, and he gives him
two one grains. Always ask for a war, you know,
know what you're worth it's okay at that point, can
of two grains, oh, dice, but no, it's taking one gram.
And then before he leaves, he's like, oh, don't do
anything funny or I'll know. Like he just says something
some line like that and then he closes the door.
Oh no, it wasn't that. It was like, I think
I wrote it down here. You do anything stupid, I'll
sense it. Because he's like leaving Vic alone in his apartment.
I just love that, like like being was on a
fucking mastermind. I just love the little threat. But no,
they give him some good lines there, and I did
really like the whole actual bathroom seating of him putting
his gun up to his head, just being like, I'm
giving you a hand out, I'm giving you money, I'm
making you you know, so that could be established all
this stuff, but you're acting like I'm holding here like
this and he pulls out his gun again. Three weeks
in a row where Penguin has threatened his life. So
that's where I just think the series has to pay
off with him taking his life now because it's just
every week. But no great scene in the great scene
in the bathroom, and again the other part scene I
like to that was tied to the bathroom was Penguins
such a fucking piece of shit. When they go out
for lunch and he can't say the steak fritz or
whatever it is, right, and he's trying and he's stuttering,
and the guy starts to be he said, oh, the
stick frits and them. He says, no, shut up, like
let him say it. He's a fucking man, and then
you know, eventually says it and he said, oh, you
don't have to do this, and no, I don't, but
you should. And then in that same bathroom scene later
on he starts he's trying to say the word free
and he's like, just get on with the kid. So
it's like what he did earlier where he's trying to
like we've seen that before, where he he's a criminal
that has like a disability, right, it's probably been made
fun of that. He knows what Victor's going through. But
then I fill in the bathroom scene he kind of
became that asshole who like he didn't make fun of
him because the sutter, but he like rolled his eyes. Yeah,
and it's like earlier that's where it just seems like
again he's just a fucking manipulator that in the moment,
he'll make you seem like he's your big brother, your
father you you know, are never had. But when it
came down to this serious conversation where he thought you
were leaving, he will take you down and maybe, you know,
kind of make you feel lesser than. So again, Penguin great.
They'll through line though these aren't callings, they're all great
stuff because I feel like you can catch little isms
where he like slips, and that, to me was one
of them where it's like, oh, that was shitty earlier
kind of saying like don't like, you know, not be
proud of the stutter, but don't let it bug you
like get through it. And this was him kind of
reminding him of like, like you fucking idiot, like you
got the stutter, you.
Speaker 2: Know so, and that's where I think it like gets
back to how you said, like the story with the
old time gangster and like he just likes that that
type of criminal and like he does kind of want that.
But when it gets down to those moments when he
is just like frustrated or impatient, it just gets back
to where he is and he just kind of throws
that out to the side right where he isn't the
more father figure to Vic. He is just his asshole boss.
And it just gets right down to it. Even though
in the restaurant, because he has that image in his mind,
he's like striving to be that. He's like, well, yeah,
like it feels good to have that, But he is
still who he is, and I think that's gonna be
like a reoccurring thing throughout the show where he wants
to live up to that. So he does these things,
but once it gets even like a little bit difficult,
he'll he'll just falter back to his original self and yeah,
I know. It's again, like it's just it's great. It's
great just having a character flawed like that and staying
true to it, not just like changing the writing around
where it's like, well, this episode he's like this, and
later on, no, he's just like this just just to
like fit a narrative for what they're trying to tell
in the story. Now they're keeping him who he is,
and it's, uh, you know, it changes the direction of
the story and yeah, it's just how it goes.
Speaker 1: What about you, Taylor, Oh, I don't know much else
to that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I already feel like I've spoken about Vic
enough and uh yeah.
Speaker 1: Anything else of this episode when I have that we
haven't talked about yet.
Speaker 3: I had one thing I wanted to mention. I mean,
I guess we'll get more of like Squid and how
that gang kind of fits into things I guesse. I
feel like they really emphasized it on top of like
like Vic or kind of like wanting more than what
his dad kind of was putting out on the table
there can kind of put up a fight about it
with his sister and fixed that. Like we already talked
about the feeling being ashamed and whatnot. That dialogue was Penguin,
But I do feel like the emphasis on Squid and
just how Squid was like being like a gangster kind
of low tier and kind of talking about how Vic
doesn't like Squid that much, but Squid seemed to be
really like interested in Vic. I wonder if that's gonna
come into play here. Maybe Penguin's gonna be like, I
need some new guys here, we need some crew because
we can't use Sophia, I can't use the Maroni us,
and so Vicka be like I got a guy. We
got Squid. You know, Squidd'll hook us up or something.
I don't know. That could just be bullshit, but I
just feel like there's something deeper going on with the
way Squid was acting.
Speaker 1: So who knows, No man's gonna break his legs next
week and.
Speaker 3: His career is over, you know, turn his legs into tentacles.
Oh my god, this limp like.
Speaker 2: It's like tusk just turns them into a squid.
Speaker 1: God, I think I have other than Again, I wish
I mentions with Penguin and so if you were talking,
but I can't remember the line he said. They're talking
about him turning her in. Oh, and then I have
another point of this he turning her in, and then
he was kind of like being a bit more like Penguin,
like tough guy. But then she questioned something and he
said something, and you always know what to say. So again,
I still always wonder what she what she knows and
doesn't know. But I can't remember the line. But the
other thing I was gonna say, so somebod I thought
that was like a little off. Was this Jimmy bean
you think of? Like so last week we figured out
or maybe it was episode one, but whatever, he's fucking
the uncle's boss right the falcony. Who's in charge? Is
that who he was fucking in the hotel room again.
Speaker 3: When they want to see his wife.
Speaker 1: Yes, I just find it very odd. I needed to
see that scene where Okay, so Penguin is in the restaurant,
uh vic he sees or he walks, Oh, you're gonna
do something you don't like. She's the fucking wife of
like the Falcone family, the main mob boss guy. She's
his wife. I want to know what did Penguin have
to say or do that would make it that, Okay,
we're gonna walk in the room and confront Jimmy and
you're gonna get at there. That felt like a really
too inconvenient or it felt like I need to see
the threat he would have made her because I guess
you could just say, oh, Wellna tell your husband, but
it's just like they could do that anyways. They have
fucking photos. I know she doesn't know that, but just
like I feel like that's a weird thing to be like.
Speaker 3: Because they would have killed him, and maybe she really
cares about VD.
Speaker 1: Then I want to see that because like it'd be
weird to be like Okay, go sleep with him, and
in your mind, no one knows about this, and I'm
not gonna sleep with him. We're not sleeping together. Oh
we have photos, Okay, then what like, like you're gonna
show him the husband. It's just it's it's I just
felt there was a jump. I think this whole storyline
has been a little the most weird thet show. But
it was just weird that he just got the Falcone's wife,
you know, the uncles, just to go, yeah, go fuck
him and we're gonna walk in and that, like cause
you're just like showing your hand quite a bit like
I has heard be like, I want to see these
photos then because what if there's bullshitting like okay, I'm
gonna go do this it it felt a little too easy.
I liked the predicament of, hey, we got to get
him to agree people think he's backing Sophia and then
they'll be in on it. But I thought it was
too easy. They should have just had him going with
the photographs. He has those photos, so I don't know.
I've I thought was execution was a little lacking with
that part of the story.
Speaker 2: I agree, it seemed like a bit of a jump.
It maybe just it's like, well, you know we're gonna
have them at the restaurant, so maybe let's just pair
it up and make it that much smoother to transition.
But it feels like it would have been even better
if they just caught them again, like they were following her.
It's like, hey, now now's the time they just kicking
the door, and then they go that route to just
surprise both of them, because it seems like they surprise
both them anyways. In the hotel room, right, it's like, oh,
you forgot your panties, like go back, and she's like
oh oh, like rushing out of there. So it just
seemed weird that it was like, yeah, you're gonna have
to do something like why yeah.
Speaker 1: Which is awes like I would be at that point
calling the head of the Falcone family being like yeah,
Oz wants me to go and fuck Jimmy and like
like why, Like I just needed because I don't know,
then you can make Pengum more intimidating or something, and
that could have made him be more shitty guy, like
let's see him intimidate this woman too. Why she has to?
I guess even if it's like I guess what's the pitch,
she might say, if you don't go and fuck and
we're gonna show your husband the photos, Like I guess,
but again, as the wife evil, I gotta see these
photos then, because it's like then you're just going and
confirming to everybody, or are these these to your fucking Jimmy.
I don't know. It was. It was odd scene, but
anything else particular with this episode.
Speaker 3: Got awesome.
Speaker 1: Going once, going twice, sold to the man with the
Penguin gloves, and uh yeah, that's it. We'll be back
next week for for Penguin. We'll be back for every
week except for the week of uh, Extra Life. We
gotta figure out what we're gonna do there. If that's
gonna be a Monday review, if we're gonna have some
midday naps and then come and review it after. I
don't know. That's of course, there's always something happened in
Extra Life weekend. But either way, we'll be back and
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