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<v Speaker 1>Greeney's in salutations everyone of Trich Wilson Walking Too. Fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball Live Today is January fifth, about three o'clock in

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoon. I'm here with as always from my good

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<v Speaker 1>buddy mister Tim McLeod. What we who we now refer

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<v Speaker 1>to as mute boy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that that modern technology, it still stumps me

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<v Speaker 2>on acasion, Rich.

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<v Speaker 1>We would have been started two or three minutes earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>but Tim could hear me. I I couldn't hear Tim.

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<v Speaker 1>He assumed it was something on my side. And Tim

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<v Speaker 1>what what was the answer?

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently I accidentally leaned on the but for my headset

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<v Speaker 2>and there we were.

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<v Speaker 1>There, we were catching.

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<v Speaker 2>Each other because of my technology challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, that's that's okay. We've got a great show, Timmy.

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<v Speaker 1>We are starting Tim's rankings, which is very exciting. We

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<v Speaker 1>starting with catching and Tim and I were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it beforehand. It's it's pretty close to where the ADPs

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<v Speaker 1>are going at the NFBC. And Tim, why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of give us your thoughts on why you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I think catchers is a smaller group,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're looking at with that smaller group, I think

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, the numbers heading into each and

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<v Speaker 2>every season are fairly well defined, so that that leaves

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<v Speaker 2>us cause to be pretty much in the same area.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it was that way last year, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been that way since we've started doing this years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So yeah, it's it's just a category a position

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<v Speaker 2>that isn't a controversial per se or doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 2>overall numbers. Like when you look at the oatfield, you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at a base of you know, fifteen times five

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five outfielders just to fill your slots. And with

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<v Speaker 2>that sheer volume of numbers comes the opportunity for larger

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<v Speaker 2>discrepancies when you're looking at filling in a lot of cases,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a twelve team league, you're in twenty four catchers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that twenty four is fairly well divined, and

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<v Speaker 2>you just don't get the wild swings that you can

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<v Speaker 2>with with deeper positions.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that makes total sense, and I appreciate. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate what you said there, and I agree with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to about my NFC draft and how

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<v Speaker 1>I look forward to it, how I set up was

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<v Speaker 1>going to handle catching and then how sometimes the draft

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<v Speaker 1>presents opportunities or challenges to me and you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to kind of adjust to that. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that as well, and then if we have time,

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<v Speaker 1>but you probably won't, well, we still have the Al

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<v Speaker 1>West fantasy questions. We will get to that at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll just use that as filler if we run

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<v Speaker 1>out as time. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>It makes total sense. And I agree one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent on your statement. You know, it's fine to

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<v Speaker 2>make plans going in, okay, and you start looking at

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<v Speaker 2>what you want to do, But a draft, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a live, living, breathing entity. And just because you make

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<v Speaker 2>yourself a plan, it doesn't mean when opportunity arises you

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<v Speaker 2>don't deviate from it if it's going to better your opportunities. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to go in saying I'm going to do this, this, this,

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<v Speaker 2>when there are fourteen other teams play yourself and the

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<v Speaker 2>myriad of combinations that can occur at times. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's very important that you are very flexible on

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<v Speaker 2>draft day and take advantage of those opportunities when they exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Opportunities are bad decisions, all that kind of stuff plays

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<v Speaker 1>into it, and I said, why don't we just talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it now? Because one of the things as I

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<v Speaker 1>was going through it, Like Tim knows me very well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very methodical. I think through everything, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>great attribute and also a curse because I can overthink things.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes I find myself doing that. I look back

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<v Speaker 1>at it and go, that just was dumb. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I should have just done the thing that made the

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<v Speaker 1>most sense and not overthink, you know, the extremities and

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of very outward fringe cases. And sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>do that and it gets me into trouble. But we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see Timmy. First of all, let's talk about it. Can

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about the first round? I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>go through the first it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A it's here, I gotta know, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, And there's a couple of very interesting interesting ones

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<v Speaker 1>in here. There's some very interesting picks which we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into that. I kind of went, wow, that

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<v Speaker 1>guy went early. But so fifteen team league, NFBC Draft

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<v Speaker 1>and hole, no trades, fifty rounds. I think most people

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this podcast know that particular format. There's literally

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<v Speaker 1>I think last year there were five thousand leagues, No

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand teams, So whatever five thousand divided by fifteen is.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a I mean, there's a lot of leagues out

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<v Speaker 1>that play this particular format.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a popular one. There is no dotor boat. Then,

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<v Speaker 2>as we mentioned here, it's replaced the mock draft, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's entirety pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>Number I'm just going to give you the first seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the first eight players, and then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>let you comment. Number one Bobby Wit Junior, two, La

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<v Speaker 1>de la Cruz, three, show Heytani, four, Aaron Judge, five,

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<v Speaker 1>Gunner Henderson six, Jose Ramirez seven, Kyle Tucker and number

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<v Speaker 1>eight one Soto. What's the first thing that comes to

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<v Speaker 1>your mind?

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<v Speaker 2>The batting average price to be paid for Elie de

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<v Speaker 2>la Cruz at number two versus the rewards on the

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<v Speaker 2>stolen bases. I don't know if I would have headed

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<v Speaker 2>in that direction, I would have been more comfortable building

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<v Speaker 2>batting average. That's the first. That's the thing that leaps

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<v Speaker 2>out with a man. Hey, I get Elie dela Cruz,

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<v Speaker 2>but if he hits two thirty, you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>find batting average somewhere. And finding batting average after round

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<v Speaker 2>ten is a lot tougher than finding stolen bases.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who this player is, but I love

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what they did because they took Ellie do look,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna this because this is a this guy's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>win going away or he's totally screwed.

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<v Speaker 2>So Ellie fences.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's his first five picks, Elie de la Cruz, Ronald Acuna,

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob de Gram, Yamamoto, and Rookie Sasaki besides Yamamoto. There

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of risk, so a.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge, incredibly huge risky. It could be golden and it

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<v Speaker 2>could be it could be a struggle. The one I

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<v Speaker 2>questioned the most out of that group pro would be

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<v Speaker 2>Sasaki because there's pictures you can take, you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>de Gram and who's his second Pittu Yamamoto, Yamamoto. That's

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<v Speaker 2>high risk right there. What I would have done is

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<v Speaker 2>taken a possibly skip, taken a bat rather than that

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<v Speaker 2>third picture, and then gone with a picture in the

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<v Speaker 2>next round. You know, one hundred and seventy, five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty and relatively safe as he's just safe compared

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<v Speaker 2>to some pitchers, you know, starter, you know, just building

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred green or somebody you know, he took.

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<v Speaker 1>He took Tyler glasno To two rounds later. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a high risk team. And you know, at first

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at going, well, that's I would ever have

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<v Speaker 1>done that. But if you if you've got the balls

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<v Speaker 1>to take ledl like Cruise with the second pick, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>why not, I mean, why not completely go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>It completely could blow up in the guy's face. Or

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<v Speaker 1>he could literally win this league going away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he's not going to finish midpacket.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think so, which which which I really

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<v Speaker 1>really I thought that was fun. I mean, part of

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<v Speaker 1>the reason you play this is to have fun. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to have fun with drafting all rookies a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago, and it was fun at the draft

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<v Speaker 1>table and pretty miserable six months. But uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think my my philosophy is I'd rather have fun

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<v Speaker 2>over the six months than two weeks to build the

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<v Speaker 2>team in the off season. But let's just be yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, any any other Otani, Judge Gunner, Jose Kyle Tucker

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<v Speaker 2>Anything, Yeah, I probably would have moved up one.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, yeah, But.

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<v Speaker 2>That's again, that's the only one that really leaps out

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<v Speaker 2>to me is Ellie, and again it's his philosophy and

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<v Speaker 2>good for him. Over works.

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<v Speaker 1>Still, I still maintained that one soda might be the

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<v Speaker 1>safest floor in all of baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so uh okay, nine through fifteen, this is

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<v Speaker 1>where it starts to get interesting. Julio Rodriguez all the

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<v Speaker 1>way up to nine, Mookie Betts, Paul Skeens at eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>Corb and Carrol We had talked about that at one

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<v Speaker 1>of the podcasts we were doing. I was on the clock.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have taken care if he fell to me

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<v Speaker 1>at thirteen. He didn't. As as told to everyone, I

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<v Speaker 1>would take Vlad Junior, I did. Fernando Tatis goes at fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the guy I was hoping that would be

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<v Speaker 1>on my team at thirteen was not. He goes with

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<v Speaker 1>a fifteenth pick, and that is Jackson Cheerio, So.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think of He went a couple picks

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<v Speaker 2>higher than mine, and I thought I was reasonably high

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<v Speaker 2>when I took him. I think third pick in the

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<v Speaker 2>second round. So yeah, it's I got no problems with

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<v Speaker 2>the pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't either. I mean, it's it's it just it

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<v Speaker 1>just shows how he's moving up and Corbyn Carroll dropped

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit right. He went to the twelfth pick,

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<v Speaker 1>and you and I talked about it. Would I take

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<v Speaker 1>Corbyn Carroll with the thirteenth? And I might have if

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<v Speaker 1>he would have gone one more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've got one starting next week, the second one

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<v Speaker 2>of the two that I do early. And if Corbyn

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<v Speaker 2>Carroll's there at thirteen, yeah, you'll find just wait to

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<v Speaker 1>What about Paul Skins at eleven?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? I get the love for Paul Skins. Look what

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<v Speaker 2>he did last year. If he stays healthy, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>reason that we can't anticipate him doing the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, he's heading into his sophomore year. He hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>got a full year in Yeah. I for me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not It's not a route that I'm going to be taking.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to you know, if I'm drafting towards the

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<v Speaker 2>back end, I'm not touching pitching until my third pick

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<v Speaker 2>and just go accordingly and let them fall where they do.

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't want to have to overpay for pitching

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<v Speaker 2>when I think the mid tier has plenty of options

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<v Speaker 2>once you get into rounds five through to ten. In there,

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<v Speaker 2>there's lots of really good options in that range. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>rather if I have to take three pitchers back to

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<v Speaker 2>back and play out of that particular area of the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of my thinking as well. So I agree

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<v Speaker 1>wholeheartedly with you there. But overall, I mean the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that when nobody really dropped and and guys went really

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<v Speaker 1>early though. Jackson Cheerios first pick, last pick in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round, Wyatt Langford, first pick in the third round.

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<v Speaker 2>In the third round, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>He went with the thirty first pick. I mean his

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<v Speaker 1>ADP is sitting in fifty. I mean, so I was

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<v Speaker 1>hoping he'd be on the board when I came back

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<v Speaker 1>around for my third pick, and that was not to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, again, the upside potential is there. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 2>saw the strong September. It's the real deal, and people

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<v Speaker 2>have strong feelings about some players. I'm sure Tristan Cassis

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<v Speaker 1>He went late, he went late, he went late, he

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<v Speaker 1>did Cassis went the tenth round early in the tenth round.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, wow, whoa, whoa, Yep, it was. It's been a

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<v Speaker 1>Been a different kind of draft. I mean, things have

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<v Speaker 1>been a bit all over the place. Let me just

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<v Speaker 1>people probably interested in. So we're in the seventeenth round,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is appropriate that we're talking about catchers because

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<v Speaker 1>I have none yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, getting it's getting close to that time, I would think.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, so it's getting pretty close, and so we're

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<v Speaker 1>But my second pick, so I wanted one of four

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<v Speaker 1>players that were left, Fernando Tatis, Jackson Curio or Jared

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<v Speaker 1>I was pretty sure with five picks i'd get one

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<v Speaker 1>of them, and I got Jared Durant. Not my first pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have liked to have had Jackson Curio, Francisco Lindor,

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Durant, Fernana Tatis. That would have been the I

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<v Speaker 1>the third up. But that's that was okay, it was good.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got a got an outfielder, got the first

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<v Speaker 1>basement I wanted come come back around. Lots of pictures

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<v Speaker 1>went off the board. Jacob de Gram, Corbyn Burns, Dylan

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<v Speaker 1>All the big guys were off. So I wanted a

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<v Speaker 1>short stop. I wanted a high end shortsop, so I

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<v Speaker 1>went with Corey Seeger. So I felt like I had

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<v Speaker 1>big power with Seeger and Guerrera. I had big speed

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<v Speaker 1>with Duran. I didn't have a picture yet, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is where it was interesting. So next one Hayter, Mason Miller,

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<v Speaker 1>George Kirby, and I'm sitting there going I really need

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<v Speaker 1>a picture, but should I take a closer? And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at it and all the big closers are off

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<v Speaker 1>the board. The next tier is coming up, the Felix Bautistas,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Helsley's, Andre's mun those guys right, and I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to calculate it and figure it out. I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>think all of them are going to be gone, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll have a shot at Robert Suarez or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Jeron Durand so that was my that was my thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>So I saw Chris Sail on the board and I'm thinking, man,

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth round, Chris Sale, yeah, he heard his hat

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<v Speaker 1>as it was a lap problem or back problem in

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, but he was awfully good. Everything in the

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<v Speaker 1>data looked good about him, so he was my first

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<v Speaker 1>picture off the board. He was not one of my targets,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought it was an opportunity because I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the other starting pictures and he by far was

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<v Speaker 1>the best picture on the board. Then I came back

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<v Speaker 1>in the fifth round with Hunter Green. Your fault, I

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<v Speaker 1>got Lad Durant, Seeger Sailing Green.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you got balance on your offense, you got

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<v Speaker 2>a big speed guy. You got power average. When you

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<v Speaker 2>look at your your pitching, Yeah, Sailing Green, you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at three hundred and fifty two, three hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>to four hundred strikeouts at your top two. I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>with Grady, Ara and Web, yeah, that's a that's a

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<v Speaker 2>fine choice it all.

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<v Speaker 1>But as I was, as I was worried, Durant and

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<v Speaker 1>Suarez went rap before me, so I I was left

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<v Speaker 1>with the next group of uh Alexis Diaz and Lucas Ersig.

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<v Speaker 1>They were the next two off the board. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I went with Hunter Green, because I'm thinking, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna wait for a while. I looked and it was

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<v Speaker 1>myself and one other team were the only people without

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<v Speaker 1>a closer yet, so I'm thinking there's no point in

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<v Speaker 1>jumping in early on one of those two guys. One

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<v Speaker 1>of them is going to be when I come back

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<v Speaker 1>around the next time through. So I went green. I

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<v Speaker 1>love Seya Susuki. I decided to get my second outfitter,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's who I went with in the sixth round.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I came. I came back with my first closer.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted lucas Ierusa. He went about five picks before that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got Alexis Diaz, which is it's a volatile

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<v Speaker 1>guide team. I'm not I'm I felt for almost twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours. I just felt bad. I just didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>the pick. I'm like, but I needed a closer. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I got. But I look back and I love

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<v Speaker 1>all my first guys, but I got Alexis Dias. So

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<v Speaker 1>I got to figure something to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is what is your The one positive with

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<v Speaker 2>Alexis Diaz is Cruise is now a Yankee, okay, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think the leash will belong with Alexis Diaz and

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<v Speaker 2>that counts. Okay. If you're going to take from the

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<v Speaker 2>cheer you're in with with risk on closers. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to take your risk knock off the cloes in waiting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that isn't waiting, and it improves your odds somewhat. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're if you've got three or four closers sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there and they all have that same risk, find the

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<v Speaker 2>one that's got the lousiest setup guy and go with him.

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<v Speaker 2>At least that's what I would do.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have preferred. Lucas Er said, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a better picture. But I liked your logic there, and

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that Cruz had left, so that was another. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was almost I gotta take them like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to wait any further. I gotta take a closer

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<v Speaker 1>because in this in this draft and holds it, there

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<v Speaker 1>is no waiver wire. That is the guy you get.

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<v Speaker 2>You're blowing off a category. And let's face it, even

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<v Speaker 2>if Alexis Diez is mediocre at best, of the fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>other teams that have the that have that have closers already,

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<v Speaker 2>because every team probably has one at this stage, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>maybe some teams have two. They're going to deal with injuries,

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<v Speaker 2>and improves your chances with every injury, hoping that Alexis

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<v Speaker 2>d Is isn't the one getting injured right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I took Alexisis in the seventh round, coming back

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<v Speaker 1>around on the eighth five picks later. And I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of young kids coming off the board early,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got some older players. I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm Vlad Junior is a little younger, but

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<v Speaker 1>I got some older guys, and I really wanted Dylan

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<v Speaker 1>Cruz on my team. So I took Dylan Cruise in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighth round around early, but given what I was seeing,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And I think that's something that you know when

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<v Speaker 2>you're drafting at either end, especially, Yeah, you wanted Dylan Cruz.

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<v Speaker 2>You believe in Dylan Cruz. Who cares if it's around early,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd be a right could have been around late. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>could have taken him the round before. You you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, It's a it's a game where you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know the answer. And hey, I don't think moving

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<v Speaker 2>a player up around or two. I don't see any

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<v Speaker 2>problems in that whatsoever. If it fits to what you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for. And you believe in the Blair.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I believe in I believe in I believe in

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<v Speaker 1>the next player. It's a little risky because he might

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<v Speaker 1>not he's not signed yet, and that is Jack Flaherty

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<v Speaker 1>as my third pitcher. I mean, I think he figured

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff out in Detroit. I hope he goes back

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<v Speaker 1>there and then the next round, Timmy, I'm sorry, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Trout in the tenth round, Okay, I mean, give me

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<v Speaker 1>a break.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, if.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't you know what I mean. Yeah, cass has

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<v Speaker 1>went one pick before that. I mean they were both

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting at the top of the queue for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, what what is going on here? Yeah, he's hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>and once he gets hurt, he's done. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. But Mike Trout was on Arguably he's having

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<v Speaker 1>his best year before he got hurt last year. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a guy that's the data still likes. Looks like

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<v Speaker 1>he still has it. So I said, Mike Trout in

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<v Speaker 1>tenth round, I'm in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was leading major League Baseball and home runs.

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<v Speaker 1>He was, That's right. Unfortunately, that was that was in

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<v Speaker 1>May and he never came back. So there's that detail, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've got four outfielders at this point, and people

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<v Speaker 1>who've read my draft targets. I was saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to go early on on outfielders, don't

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<v Speaker 1>wait till late. But it was just an opportunity, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those guys were targets of mine, and I

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<v Speaker 1>jumped on them. I got four pitchers, I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>short step. I got a first baseman, no middle infielder's,

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<v Speaker 1>no third baseman, no catcher. That's where I'm sitting. So

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<v Speaker 1>coming back in the eleventh round, I looked a little

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<v Speaker 1>light in stolen bases, though I believe that Cruise is

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<v Speaker 1>going to provide that. And obviously Durandez I went with

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<v Speaker 1>the cal Garcia. As you know, I'm still a believer.

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<v Speaker 2>He's your guy. With him.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I felt like it was time to go back

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<v Speaker 1>for my second closer because I waited on my first one.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to get you know, the guy in

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado Kinley or something like that. So so I was

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there with Peter Pete Fairbanks. Uh, Peter Hodge, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I loved him, turn me on the him. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at Liam Hendricks and everybody's forgetting about Liam Hendricks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't want somebody else to figure out that

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<v Speaker 1>Liam Hendricks is a pretty damn good pitcher and should

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<v Speaker 1>be back, and it's with Boston. They're saying he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the closer. It was a bit of a risk,

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<v Speaker 1>but I went Liam Hendricks.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, here in the tenth round.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the twelfth round, okay, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You got you got Hendrix. Yeah. The issue with Hendricks

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<v Speaker 2>is if he does struggle, Chapman's there, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I will make sure I grab Chapman.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I was going to say, yeah, I get

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<v Speaker 2>Chapman a little bit later on. But you know that

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<v Speaker 2>Liam Hendricks is actually younger than Chapman.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well a lot, most everybody tell me Chatman.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we always think of Hendricks as being old,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's a he's a full uh he's a full

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<v Speaker 2>year younger than Chapman. Hmm, yeah, no, that's he.

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<v Speaker 1>But at this at this point, most of the catchers

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<v Speaker 1>have gone off the board. I just, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>liked Tyler Stevenson. I mean, I I like Francisco Alvarez,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was busy with Michael Trout and making sure

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<v Speaker 1>I shore up catching. I just I felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>had other needs to fill and once I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>wait on catching. Well, I decided to wait on catching,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was okay, that's what you do. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>another another young player that you and I talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>we think he's ready for a breakout, as Jackson Holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't gonna let him get past the thirteenth thirteenth round.

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<v Speaker 1>So I took Jackson Holiday, came back with Sean Maniah

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<v Speaker 1>and Gavin Williams, and then finished it up in the

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<v Speaker 1>sixteenth round with And I told everybody was going to

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<v Speaker 1>do this the guy I hate, Nolan Jones and my

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<v Speaker 1>team there you go. So just so everybody knows, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't hold a grudge. I will take a guy if

417
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<v Speaker 1>I think there's value there.

418
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think there is a sixty and outfield

419
00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:20.319
<v Speaker 2>at that stage has got to be getting for these bars.

420
00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:22.799
<v Speaker 1>I've got five of them. I've got five of them,

421
00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:25.759
<v Speaker 1>and there's and I got a second basement, a third baseman.

422
00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a catcher. That's the only thing. So

423
00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:31.960
<v Speaker 1>catching is going to be my weak point and maybe closing.

424
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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to have to probably go early with

425
00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:37.640
<v Speaker 1>some setup guys. I might even go with, you know,

426
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:42.559
<v Speaker 1>a low end closer here for my third guy, just

427
00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to make sure I get it. I've got seven pitchers,

428
00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:48.519
<v Speaker 1>so it's I gave up on I I gave up

429
00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:52.720
<v Speaker 1>on catching, and you got it. Not every sometimes things

430
00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>just don't work out. But I liked other players better

431
00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:56.960
<v Speaker 1>as I was going through the process.

432
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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just like the old Rolling Stone song. You know,

433
00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:04.000
<v Speaker 2>you can't always get what you want, but you might

434
00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.119
<v Speaker 2>end up with what you need and that might work

435
00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:10.359
<v Speaker 2>oh better in the long term. Right, Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

436
00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:13.799
<v Speaker 2>you can't pass up Mike trow in half a season.

437
00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:16.720
<v Speaker 2>He can. He can give you twenty plus home runs

438
00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:22.720
<v Speaker 2>and fifty five sixty RBIs yep. Yeah, find another outfielder,

439
00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:25.640
<v Speaker 2>stash them away or two, which you're going to do

440
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:30.079
<v Speaker 2>in a fifty rounder, and pray for health, right Sean.

441
00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:32.119
<v Speaker 1>And I was did not make my targets, as our

442
00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:34.519
<v Speaker 1>patron members know this, but he was right on the cuffs.

443
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:38.839
<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell everybody why. If you take a look

444
00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:43.599
<v Speaker 1>at his first and second half splits, they're pretty stark.

445
00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>It was a five sixty eight first half era like

446
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:50.279
<v Speaker 1>a three eighteen second half era. And if you take

447
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>a look at his delivery, he lowered his delivery, which

448
00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:55.759
<v Speaker 1>is probably gonna put a lot more stress on his arm,

449
00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:57.920
<v Speaker 1>so he could come up with arm injury. I just

450
00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:00.640
<v Speaker 1>hope it won't be this season. But he literally coming

451
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:03.319
<v Speaker 1>to the left side with a little lower three quarters delivery,

452
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>given his stuff, that's going to flat out play. And

453
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that that attributed a lot to the success

454
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:11.039
<v Speaker 1>he had in the second half. So it was a

455
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:18.279
<v Speaker 1>calculated take there, knowing that something definitively happened, that he

456
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:22.319
<v Speaker 1>changed something, he had the success. Yes, there's more injury

457
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:25.839
<v Speaker 1>risk now, but I'm hoping acrossing my fingers he'll be

458
00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:27.039
<v Speaker 1>good for another season.

459
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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, if you get one hundred and twenty

460
00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:32.920
<v Speaker 2>five to one hundred and thirty innings, that'll suffice where

461
00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:36.440
<v Speaker 2>you drafted him. Yeah, yeah, that works. That works. And

462
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:40.000
<v Speaker 2>by by not just looking and saying, well, you had

463
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<v Speaker 2>a better second half, you found the reason why.

464
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:42.759
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

465
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sometimes you have a better first half or a

466
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<v Speaker 2>better second half and there is no reason why. That's

467
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<v Speaker 2>a little more concerning than than searching through and coming

468
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<v Speaker 2>up with the definition.

469
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<v Speaker 1>The nice thing about slow drafts is Sean and I,

470
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<v Speaker 1>because I looked up quickly looked at the splits and like, wow,

471
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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty dramatic and looked at the stuff and I

472
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't really see any difference in the stuff. I'm going, well,

473
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:09.200
<v Speaker 1>that's really weird. Has he been interviewed? I mean, clearly,

474
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:11.240
<v Speaker 1>somebody that was that much better in the second half

475
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:14.599
<v Speaker 1>than the first half, somebody must have interviewed him on that.

476
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>So I found an interview where he said, yeah, I

477
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:20.240
<v Speaker 1>changed my arm delivery. So then I went back to

478
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>went back to the video. I looked at his like

479
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>an April delivery and an August delivery, and sure enough

480
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:33.240
<v Speaker 1>he had lowered his delivery. And I go, okay, done, Yeah, yeah, no,

481
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:38.039
<v Speaker 1>you're You're It's a calculated it's a calculated risk. So

482
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.160
<v Speaker 1>if I take out my pitch and I got sale

483
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Green Flaherty, Maniah, Gavin Williams is my top five guys.

484
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel really good about it. Timmy, I don't know.

485
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like what you've done.

486
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I got two young bets with Holiday and Cruise.

487
00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Holiday might blow up on both of us, but I

488
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:03.279
<v Speaker 1>think in the thirteenth round, I just think the upside.

489
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:06.079
<v Speaker 1>The data looks so good on this guy, even though

490
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the data that counts his batting average, home runs and

491
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:13.519
<v Speaker 1>solar basis looks terrible. Uh, the underlying data looks a

492
00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:14.319
<v Speaker 1>lot better than that.

493
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, and if you're going to take a chance on

494
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:20.079
<v Speaker 2>a player, take a chance on a player that has

495
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:26.240
<v Speaker 2>significant upside, right yep, and he does as just cruise. Yeah,

496
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:28.359
<v Speaker 2>So no, I I like it when you what's left

497
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:30.960
<v Speaker 2>for catcher or are we gonna are we gonna leave

498
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.279
<v Speaker 2>that to to when we actually discussed the catching position.

499
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:36.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's I mean, I've got some ideas, but

500
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.119
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of our Patreon members are playing in

501
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>this league, so that's what that's what they're taking Ryant

502
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Langford early and things like that. So I'm gonna hold

503
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>that to my I've got a guy that I want.

504
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>If you read my my targets, you'll see who that is.

505
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>But it's it's it's going to be too under the

506
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.839
<v Speaker 1>radar guys. It just is. And I'm probably gonna I'm

507
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:04.039
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna get young rookie catcher as my third or

508
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>fourth guy, So makes sense. Maybe your guy Carter Jensen

509
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>or something like that.

510
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we are going to see catchers get called up

511
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>in a long season, so there are no shortage of

512
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.559
<v Speaker 2>young kids chomping at the bid. So no good good job,

513
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:23.319
<v Speaker 2>good job.

514
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I think I feel good about it. I mean, you

515
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:28.559
<v Speaker 1>never do when you're going through it, particularly when it's slow.

516
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the emotions are up and down, and because

517
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:35.039
<v Speaker 1>it's so long, you don't really have an emotion at

518
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the end. It's just you look at these players and

519
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.039
<v Speaker 1>I go, well, I like all the players. Do I

520
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:42.079
<v Speaker 1>like my construction of my team. Boy, I wish I

521
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>had a catcher. Boy, I wish I had a top endcloser.

522
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>So I always go to the negatives, right, It's like, man,

523
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I wish I had this, but I just don't. I

524
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know what to say it. Don't you know what?

525
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.880
<v Speaker 2>You can't get everything you want At some point in time.

526
00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:04.119
<v Speaker 2>You know you made your decision when you your fourth pick,

527
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Chris say, yeah, yeah, you know, do you want to

528
00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:11.680
<v Speaker 2>strike out and the overall influence of that low era

529
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.400
<v Speaker 2>cast upon your team or do you want to go

530
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 2>with a closer at that stage? And I went went

531
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.799
<v Speaker 2>with the starter. I know, I know in my draft

532
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:27.240
<v Speaker 2>I took I'm just gonna pull it up real quick,

533
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>but I'm pretty sure I took Josh Josh Hater early.

534
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 2>But after Hater I just sort of just sort of

535
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:36.440
<v Speaker 2>left it and the way you go right, Well, what

536
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:37.079
<v Speaker 2>I did.

537
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:39.039
<v Speaker 1>And again this is an advantage of slow dress is

538
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 1>you're looking that up. When I knew I had a

539
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:44.519
<v Speaker 1>chance to take Chris Sale, I'm like, I mean, thirty

540
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.799
<v Speaker 1>seven years old one Tommy John Surgery was Cygong Award

541
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.839
<v Speaker 1>winner plays for the Brave. So just do really good

542
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>things with pictures? Or do I go with a closer

543
00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:57.559
<v Speaker 1>What do I do? And I literally just close my computer,

544
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>got on my running shoes and I went out for

545
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>a run. And somewhere midway through my run, I said,

546
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking Chris Sale. That's the that feels like the

547
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.519
<v Speaker 1>smart play, the opportunity that's there. So for all the

548
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:13.759
<v Speaker 1>people that draft that, I apologize, you're on the clock

549
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.519
<v Speaker 1>for forty minutes. I was out thinking, but that's I

550
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>thought that was a critical like I could screw this complete.

551
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I could screw this draft up right here. And that's

552
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:25.799
<v Speaker 1>that's the decision I made. We'll see if it works out.

553
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I took Hater, but I took Kirby at

554
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 2>three thirteen, and then I took Haber Hater, and I

555
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:36.240
<v Speaker 2>took Biby Skip Skip So so.

556
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>So Hater lasted to the fifth.

557
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Round, fourth round. I went with two pictures in three four.

558
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so I went Seeger and sale, you went, uh,

559
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:54.920
<v Speaker 1>you went Kirby and Hater. Hater was Hater available, Hater

560
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:56.279
<v Speaker 1>was already gone.

561
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, Well, the difference between our two drafts

562
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:04.119
<v Speaker 2>is we we have a waiver wire and play in season, okay,

563
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and you don't. Okay. So that changes the matrix big time.

564
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:12.599
<v Speaker 1>I could have gone Kirby would have been there with

565
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the third pick, but Hater went to pick aftermine in

566
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the third, so he would I could not have done

567
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:21.759
<v Speaker 1>the guy picking in fourteen with Hater Kirby.

568
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 2>So okay, okay. So in fact, interesting.

569
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.119
<v Speaker 1>He did Francisco Lindor Hayter Kirby. He did the exact

570
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>same thing you did.

571
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, except I got Cheerio with my second pick. And

572
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:40.119
<v Speaker 2>then of after I had my two bats, I had one, two, three, four.

573
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:43.640
<v Speaker 2>My next five picks, four of them were pitchers.

574
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Yep, I will take. I will tell you it's fun drafting.

575
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it is fun. It's it's it's you. If you

576
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>can't you can't beat an early draft, you're really It

577
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.799
<v Speaker 2>just gets you, warms the cookles of your heart.

578
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't it totally agree. So I hope everybody got something

579
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>out of that, not saying my picks are right, saying

580
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>my strategy is right. But at least you got a

581
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>chance to hear two guys now with two drafts, Ten's

582
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>draft in my draft, talking about our logic and what

583
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>we're doing and whether it makes sense or not. And

584
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:20.279
<v Speaker 1>if you can apply that to some of your thinking,

585
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.279
<v Speaker 1>good or bad, you could say that's totally not the

586
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>right way to do it. I'm going to do something different,

587
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:28.839
<v Speaker 1>at least hopefully, Timmy, the conversation helps.

588
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:33.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it is early, a lot of things are

589
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:36.519
<v Speaker 2>going to change. But I think the logic that we

590
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:41.279
<v Speaker 2>both utilized in trying to assemble our teams is solid

591
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:45.640
<v Speaker 2>and hopefully but like you said, I just reiterated, people

592
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:47.359
<v Speaker 2>can get something out of it when they get into

593
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 2>their own to.

594
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Mean to take a break. Wow, we've gone thirty four

595
00:33:51.079 --> 00:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>minutes forgot to wish you happy Happy New Year?

596
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, happy New Year you and the family as well.

597
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Rich Now you're probably not a curb your enthusiasm. Larry

598
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:16.039
<v Speaker 1>David fan but he did a whole episode on when

599
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>is it too late to wish somebody a happy New Year,

600
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:21.199
<v Speaker 1>which I think he came up with three days, so

601
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I might be a little late. But next week it

602
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>is too late.

603
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, next week, yeah, it probably is. I posted memap

604
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:35.360
<v Speaker 2>on the up on my Facebook page about people in

605
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Christmas decorations, like why are they putting them up? Like

606
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 2>three hundred and sixty some odd days early?

607
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:44.280
<v Speaker 1>So when do you take your Christmas decorations down?

608
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:51.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't whenever whenever Joji decides to pull them down.

609
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Right now, I'm saying they're up for next year? How's that?

610
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:55.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm early?

611
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Are they so? Seriously? Are the Christmas decoration? Do you

612
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>still have Christmas decoration in your home? Up?

613
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Let me just take a quick spy around here. I

614
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.400
<v Speaker 2>live here, but you never know it. Sometimes I think,

615
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:12.119
<v Speaker 2>uh no, the tree is the tree is down, but

616
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:14.960
<v Speaker 2>some of the other stuff is up. Lights, internal lights,

617
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:16.320
<v Speaker 2>we get some lights and rees.

618
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's time to take them down.

619
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, don't you think? Yeah, I'll mention that.

620
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:28.039
<v Speaker 1>Some please don't ours comes down January.

621
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:32.039
<v Speaker 2>That richest direction our our.

622
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>History here is January first. Everything comes down, whether we

623
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:37.280
<v Speaker 1>still like it or not.

624
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:38.760
<v Speaker 2>It's okay.

625
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>In places in the South December twenty second, I'm excuse me,

626
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Jim's twenty six trees are out on the side of

627
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:48.679
<v Speaker 1>the road. I mean, that's that's it. There, You're done

628
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:49.639
<v Speaker 1>with Christmas is done.

629
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know in retail stores are already ever, they're

630
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:54.639
<v Speaker 2>already pushing palaties.

631
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So we got a little bit of

632
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:02.760
<v Speaker 1>news and notes. And as I reported last week, and

633
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>what I was hearing about Jack Flaherty was he didn't

634
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:09.800
<v Speaker 1>want to go back to the Orioles, and that's now

635
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:14.039
<v Speaker 1>being reported pretty broadly that it didn't go so well

636
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.239
<v Speaker 1>with them, and nobody knows why, just didn't go very well.

637
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 1>So the Orioles need pitching him, and they turned to

638
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:23.440
<v Speaker 1>forty one year old Charlie Morton. It's only a one

639
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 1>year deal, but it's almost like taking Lewis a rise

640
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>in a draft. It feels like you've done something wrong

641
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:34.639
<v Speaker 1>if you have to have Charlie Morton in your rotation.

642
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, and hey, not knocking them for chasings again. Over

643
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:41.519
<v Speaker 2>there's only a one year deal and he's thirty five.

644
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:46.159
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like they're taking that, they're taking what's left over,

645
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:53.599
<v Speaker 2>and you know what, Charlie Morton, he might be an upgrade. Okay,

646
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Over with Baltimore can currently rule as a number five starter.

647
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:00.840
<v Speaker 2>But I've said it numerous times already taking the Oaths

648
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.039
<v Speaker 2>to the promised land. Yeah, four nineteen year A last

649
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.559
<v Speaker 2>year is age forty one, season forty two this year.

650
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>It's embarrassing town, It's embarrassing.

651
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I think the O's right now are in the process

652
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:22.159
<v Speaker 2>of doing what the Jays did four or five years ago.

653
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.239
<v Speaker 2>The mindset, we've got all these prospects, We're not going

654
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:28.280
<v Speaker 2>to give them away. We're not. You know, we got

655
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:33.000
<v Speaker 2>four years of stability and the big bets and everything,

656
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:37.039
<v Speaker 2>and before you know it, it'll be two years before

657
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Gunner and Adelaie walk and they'll be saying the same

658
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:41.639
<v Speaker 2>thing and they won't have a title.

659
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I just I think it's now practice. I think it's terrible.

660
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean that this is the direction they're going, and

661
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:52.679
<v Speaker 1>they either nobody wants to sign with them or they're

662
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:57.000
<v Speaker 1>just unwilling to fork over the prospects or fork over

663
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the money. It is not a good situation. And I

664
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:03.519
<v Speaker 1>mean Charlie Morton's he's fine, He's a number five starter.

665
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:06.760
<v Speaker 1>They don't need number five starters. They need somebody to

666
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.199
<v Speaker 1>replace Corbyn Burns that they just do. And it's not

667
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Zach Efflin. It might be Grayson Rodriguez, but he's a kid.

668
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Still, well, yeah, he's a kid, and he's also lost

669
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:19.000
<v Speaker 2>time due to injuries so far right he has.

670
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Indeed, I think he's really I think he's very good.

671
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Though, yes, I agree, I think he's a very good pitcher.

672
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 2>But they need they need a number one, number two

673
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.920
<v Speaker 2>type starter. I think Athlyn's a fine number three, and

674
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:35.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe someday Grayson Rodriguez will be that das or then

675
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:39.800
<v Speaker 2>number two. But right now there's a hole at the

676
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:42.719
<v Speaker 2>top of that rotation and they're not It doesn't look

677
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:44.760
<v Speaker 2>like they're going to be trying to fill it anytime soon.

678
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>It just feels like Max sures there's going to be

679
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:49.559
<v Speaker 1>the next guy they announced, and it's just, you know,

680
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:53.360
<v Speaker 1>what the hell are you doing? Like there was a

681
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:56.280
<v Speaker 1>there was a meme that said Joe Biden was a

682
00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:58.559
<v Speaker 1>pretty good pitcher in his days. He's only eighty two

683
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.400
<v Speaker 1>years old, so he's a available now, so they're gonna

684
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:06.519
<v Speaker 1>sign him. I'm like, great, the list, next on the list,

685
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:10.280
<v Speaker 1>get the old guys out there. Anyway, I'm disappointed, as uh,

686
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:12.639
<v Speaker 1>my wife's a huge Oriols fan. As everybody knows, I

687
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:16.400
<v Speaker 1>watch a lot of the games. It's it's it's upsetting

688
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:19.639
<v Speaker 1>as a fan, and it's as an analyst. It's also

689
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>ticks me off because it's just not right. I mean,

690
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:25.559
<v Speaker 1>they're they're they're not going about it the right way.

691
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe this is gonna work.

692
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 2>That's yeah, I can't believe it's gonna work either. I

693
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:37.280
<v Speaker 2>think what's going to end up happening is they're gonna

694
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.480
<v Speaker 2>waste Ano. They're one of those what total of five

695
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:43.079
<v Speaker 2>six years. They're gonna waste another year this year and

696
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.159
<v Speaker 2>next year they're going to be searching for the same

697
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:48.480
<v Speaker 2>thing that they could have been actually having this year,

698
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:52.159
<v Speaker 2>that that's a starting pitcher. Unlet's and let's say let's

699
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:56.960
<v Speaker 2>they have plans on signing Sazaki. Yeah, it's yeah.

700
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, apparently Sasaki's the end of the month he's sposed

701
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.519
<v Speaker 1>to sign. They're saying after the twentieth. I don't know

702
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:05.079
<v Speaker 1>why they picked the twentieth, but that was a report

703
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:08.119
<v Speaker 1>I saw. So he's gonna go out less.

704
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so. He's making his rounds right now

705
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:14.880
<v Speaker 2>and doing his due diligence. But I'm sure he's got

706
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:16.119
<v Speaker 2>a short list of teams.

707
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:19.599
<v Speaker 1>Somebody sent us a note, maybe it was Bob king

708
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:23.880
<v Speaker 1>High that that you Darvish told him to sign with

709
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:25.519
<v Speaker 1>the Cubs. That's what he heard.

710
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, you know, if you look around Major League Baseball,

711
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:32.239
<v Speaker 2>the Cubs have got a great history of signing Asian players.

712
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:36.519
<v Speaker 2>So does Texas. Okay, Boston has had more than its

713
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:40.920
<v Speaker 2>fair share of Asian players. Okay, there's a group of

714
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:45.559
<v Speaker 2>teams that have done their due diligence over the years

715
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:48.199
<v Speaker 2>and have signed a lot of the Asian players. And

716
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they're going to all be at or near

717
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:56.360
<v Speaker 2>the top of the list, you know what I mean, Darbish. No,

718
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Darvish is very close to Zaki Affharan, and again I

719
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:06.679
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be shocked if he signed with the Cubs. Yeah,

720
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:09.440
<v Speaker 2>i'd say, is a Zuki go back to food Jakowa

721
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:13.079
<v Speaker 2>that they've had plenty of players and recruited heavily from Asia,

722
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:16.079
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't Yeah, Texas is another team outside of the

723
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:18.400
<v Speaker 2>West Coast that's done the same in Boston. On the

724
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:21.519
<v Speaker 2>East Coast, the Yankees. Boston and the Yankees of both

725
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:27.320
<v Speaker 2>done their fair share of recruiting other japan and Koreas.

726
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:31.039
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, the good news for him is he can

727
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:33.320
<v Speaker 1>sign with any team that he wants because they're all

728
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:36.119
<v Speaker 1>because he's going to be limited by the international money

729
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:40.679
<v Speaker 1>and there's not a big discrepancy between the teams with

730
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the lowest international budget and the highest international budget, so

731
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:46.519
<v Speaker 1>he's you know, he should be able to pick the

732
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:49.119
<v Speaker 1>team that he wants to go to. The Dodgers think

733
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:51.599
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be them because they have nobody for

734
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:55.039
<v Speaker 1>this first time in years, one of the big international signings,

735
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:59.360
<v Speaker 1>they haven't committed to anybody, so they've got everything lined

736
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 1>up to grab him if they don't. As Tim and

737
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:05.559
<v Speaker 1>I have talked about, somebody who's been made a commitment

738
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to is not going to get the money and it's

739
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:09.760
<v Speaker 1>just going to trickle down, which is going to be fascinating.

740
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a question for him, rich can teams offer to

741
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:19.599
<v Speaker 2>an international player like Suzaki? Can they offer him so

742
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:22.519
<v Speaker 2>many flights? Did your pany here? Can they offer him

743
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:30.199
<v Speaker 2>a a luxury box? Can they offer him perks of

744
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:30.960
<v Speaker 2>that nature?

745
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:34.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I would think that'd be a little

746
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:37.119
<v Speaker 1>dicey because it's not a major league contract, and that

747
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:42.599
<v Speaker 1>might they might think that that is that's financial that's

748
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>a financial compensation that's above and beyond what you're allowed

749
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:51.519
<v Speaker 1>to sign internationally. So I'm going to say no. But

750
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 1>that's just that's just thinking about.

751
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:59.239
<v Speaker 2>It about a car and a driver, security, all those things.

752
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:02.719
<v Speaker 1>They might be to get away with that because that

753
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:08.639
<v Speaker 1>would be considered part of the baseball development process.

754
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:13.119
<v Speaker 3>But I'm just curious because I would think everybody would

755
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:17.119
<v Speaker 3>be I think everybody would be providing that an interpreter

756
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:20.000
<v Speaker 3>and a driver and things like that.

757
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 1>So but I don't know if you can get away

758
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:25.639
<v Speaker 1>with You're going to give him a half million dollar

759
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:28.639
<v Speaker 1>luxury or a million dollar luxury box, which is an

760
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:31.639
<v Speaker 1>asset of a million dollars and he basically goes on

761
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:34.320
<v Speaker 1>stubhop and puts it out. You know, I'm not sure

762
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:35.280
<v Speaker 1>that would be allowed.

763
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Well I'm sure his goal it wouldn't be, But I

764
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:42.920
<v Speaker 2>get where you're coming from. Yeah, you could turn that

765
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:44.599
<v Speaker 2>asset into cash pretty quick.

766
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of hard to do that with an interpreter

767
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:50.199
<v Speaker 1>and a driver. I mean, I mean, I guess you

768
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:53.880
<v Speaker 1>could make your driver be an uber driver at night

769
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:56.039
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. I mean, I get, but that

770
00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>would be a little that might be a most demnimous

771
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 1>type of money. But I would think a luxury box

772
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:05.119
<v Speaker 1>would be a big deal. So that's they're good questions.

773
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I haven't thought through that. I'll ask some of the

774
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:09.559
<v Speaker 1>agents that I work with and see what they say.

775
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, i'd be cus I'd be curious as to

776
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:18.440
<v Speaker 2>how far you can go okay before you cross that line.

777
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:21.519
<v Speaker 2>And there is a line there somewhere, I just don't

778
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:22.840
<v Speaker 2>know it.

779
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:27.599
<v Speaker 1>It's probably anything that is of significant value, would be

780
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:31.519
<v Speaker 1>my guess, and that's always going to be open for interpretation.

781
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I would guess a luxury box is too much. A

782
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:38.599
<v Speaker 1>driver is probably not. Now it's the driver driving a

783
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Ferrari versus you know, a Ford. I don't know so,

784
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:50.880
<v Speaker 1>but but that's interesting, so always interesting thing, all right.

785
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:55.599
<v Speaker 1>The other signing was it's not hassan Kim, it's I

786
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.159
<v Speaker 1>think hasan kim. Is that how you would pronounce it?

787
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I think it's high. Otherwise rounds like an eye,

788
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 2>But I could be.

789
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:05.840
<v Speaker 1>H y E s O n G is the way

790
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I read it, as opposed to h a hyphen ata

791
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:12.400
<v Speaker 1>se o n G. But so I got my my, uh,

792
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about this guy. Tell us about him.

793
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:17.480
<v Speaker 1>But you've ritt just realized you're going to get a

794
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>couple of zero point zeros as you're talking about.

795
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.280
<v Speaker 2>It, but I can't hear them, so I just ignore it.

796
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:28.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay, why did Dodger sign him?

797
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Why did Dodger sign him? I think we might have

798
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:34.360
<v Speaker 2>to discuss that with Gavin Lucks.

799
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:38.639
<v Speaker 1>You been saying that, you said that one last week

800
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:41.840
<v Speaker 1>is Gavin Luck's going to be the starter on I

801
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:44.000
<v Speaker 1>think I said July first or something you said. No.

802
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think this might sort of play into this

803
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.639
<v Speaker 2>because Kim was a shortstop before moving to second base,

804
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and I've looked I've looked at the film of of

805
00:45:56.239 --> 00:46:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Kim and I think he can still play strong enough.

806
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it is enough range there as a second baseman. Defensively,

807
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:10.280
<v Speaker 2>he's elite. Okay, we're talking krem Dela Creme. As far

808
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:16.639
<v Speaker 2>as his defense is concerned. Uh, Looking from the shortstop,

809
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:19.639
<v Speaker 2>I would say he's probably average, maybe a bit above.

810
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:24.280
<v Speaker 2>But second base. Second base is where you ideally want

811
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:27.159
<v Speaker 2>that glove, and it, like I said, is truly elite.

812
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:29.639
<v Speaker 1>So what kind of offense are we talking about here?

813
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's where things get tricky. He's a e lite

814
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:36.880
<v Speaker 2>off hitter, So you're looking at his biggest year from

815
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:41.119
<v Speaker 2>a PowerPoint of view in Korea, even with their their

816
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.000
<v Speaker 2>dead bull. Last year he had eleven home runs. So

817
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:45.639
<v Speaker 2>I think you're looking at a guy who's going to

818
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.320
<v Speaker 2>hit a handful three or five home run.

819
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Because power has not been translated at all coming from

820
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:53.039
<v Speaker 1>from the KBO.

821
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:59.920
<v Speaker 2>No. But again, you're looking at a guy who's lowest

822
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:02.800
<v Speaker 2>OBP in the past four years is three seventy two.

823
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:06.360
<v Speaker 2>He hasn't had a batting average under three hundreds since

824
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:09.719
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, so he can't hit. His contact skills are good.

825
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.119
<v Speaker 2>He's stolen as many as forty six bases four years ago.

826
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.519
<v Speaker 2>Last year he stole thirty, got cut six times, score

827
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:18.360
<v Speaker 2>ninety runs.

828
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>So if Mookie Betts plays short, Gavin Lux play second,

829
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you're saying that Heisan Kim is an elite second baseman. Offensively,

830
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:34.519
<v Speaker 1>sounds like he's a better hitter at least, maybe Lux

831
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:38.519
<v Speaker 1>has got more power. Isn't Kim gonna play second?

832
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes? I would. Again, if BET's bets goes to short,

833
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Kim could very easily slide in where Lux is at second. Actually,

834
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 2>I think Kim could slide into shortstop.

835
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but they said that evan't They said that Bets

836
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:57.280
<v Speaker 1>is playing shortstop.

837
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.599
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, who knows. The Dodgers could still sign three

838
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:05.159
<v Speaker 2>more shortstops. Who knows. They got the kid from Miami

839
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:11.800
<v Speaker 2>there still too. So I definitely defensively, Kim's an upgrade

840
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:16.199
<v Speaker 2>at second base over whoever they put there. Okay' he's

841
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:18.719
<v Speaker 2>that good. And you know what I mean, I'm probably

842
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:20.760
<v Speaker 2>hitting the nine hole if he plays.

843
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he's not hitting lead off. No.

844
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:27.360
<v Speaker 2>No, I think shoey Otani is relatively safe and goes

845
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:33.559
<v Speaker 2>to bed for each and every night knowing that. But again, hey,

846
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:35.840
<v Speaker 2>if you're looking for power, ain't gonna be there. If

847
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.639
<v Speaker 2>you're looking for speed, he can provide it along with

848
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:43.960
<v Speaker 2>a decent hit tool. And it's all about what happens

849
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:49.679
<v Speaker 2>with second and shortstop. Uh in l A. And we

850
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:51.960
<v Speaker 2>have no idea at this point in time it is

851
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.639
<v Speaker 2>going to eventually shake down. I don't believe Gavin Lux

852
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:57.559
<v Speaker 2>is the answer though, and I think signing this guy

853
00:48:57.920 --> 00:48:59.199
<v Speaker 2>basically reinforces that.

854
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:02.320
<v Speaker 1>So I have a couple of shares at least one

855
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:04.280
<v Speaker 1>year and Gavin Lux in the Dynasty League, and I

856
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.800
<v Speaker 1>tell you to him, I'm a little worried that Gavin

857
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Lux is either going to get moved or he's going

858
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.199
<v Speaker 1>to be a part time player, because I mean, he

859
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:15.559
<v Speaker 1>did not have a strong season last year, was on

860
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>top prospect, he missed an entire year when he was hurt,

861
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:20.800
<v Speaker 1>and he just didn't put it together last year, and

862
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.039
<v Speaker 1>that was his chance. And the Dodgers are too good.

863
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:24.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're not going to sit on their laurels

864
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and wait for a guy to produce. They're going to

865
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:33.360
<v Speaker 1>find somebody else. I go ask Josh, Josh Outman, go

866
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 1>ask Ken.

867
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, and hey, this signing basically says, hey, if

868
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.119
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to get it done, we're going to

869
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:46.360
<v Speaker 2>get somebody who we believe can, maybe in a different fashion,

870
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:52.719
<v Speaker 2>maybe providing different overall numbers. But yeah, you take a

871
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 2>look at I had Kim Strake Oats walks. He struck

872
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.320
<v Speaker 2>out sixty two times last year, walked forty seven the

873
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:03.199
<v Speaker 2>year before, seventy seven and fifty seven, eighty three and

874
00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:05.800
<v Speaker 2>forty seven. Yeah, he knows how to find his way

875
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:09.840
<v Speaker 2>to first base, yep, and and hit for high average

876
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:12.599
<v Speaker 2>at the same time. So I think there's something there

877
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:19.320
<v Speaker 2>in your draft hold. I'd probably look at him after thirty.

878
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I might as well.

879
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, because I really think if the Dodge, the

880
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Dodgers are are showing an incredible urgency to want to

881
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:37.559
<v Speaker 2>win now and win more. And they I know they

882
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:41.119
<v Speaker 2>don't have big money tied up in Kim, but they're

883
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:44.840
<v Speaker 2>they're doing everything to win it, not just next year

884
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:48.960
<v Speaker 2>but into twenty six and into twenty seven, and why not.

885
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:52.800
<v Speaker 2>That's they're They're there to win it. That's what everybody

886
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:53.280
<v Speaker 2>should be. There.

887
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Who I feel bad for is Dalton Rushing. I mean, yes,

888
00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:00.760
<v Speaker 1>guy is about ready. If not he is ready, there's

889
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:03.280
<v Speaker 1>absolutely no room for him.

890
00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah. And again I think that's something when you

891
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:15.320
<v Speaker 2>look at teams like the Dodgers and the Yankees, there

892
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:18.199
<v Speaker 2>should be a I don't care how good the prospect is,

893
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:25.559
<v Speaker 2>barring rookie sazaki, you know, there's no no room at

894
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:30.119
<v Speaker 2>the end, right get there, they'll go and they'll get players.

895
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:33.440
<v Speaker 2>So it doesn't doesn't matter how good Dalton Rushing is

896
00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:40.119
<v Speaker 2>does it unless he is elite, they'll go. They'll find somebody, right.

897
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:44.559
<v Speaker 1>It's it's unfortunate with these really good teams. You got

898
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:46.239
<v Speaker 1>to be elite and then when you when you get

899
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the call. It's unfortunate him. You got to hit the

900
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.880
<v Speaker 1>ground running. There is no adjustment period. You gotta go

901
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.800
<v Speaker 1>to for four the first night and and keep it up.

902
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:59.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just the way it is. It's unfair,

903
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:00.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's true.

904
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:03.159
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, look at pay Payos.

905
00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, he was good the first month and then

906
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:12.239
<v Speaker 1>started the struggle and he's so so deeply buried. Yeah,

907
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it's there's no shot. And the same as with Outman.

908
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Outman has split problems and he's hoping for a trade.

909
00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Payas is hoping for a trade. I bet you a

910
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Dalton Russians called his representative and saying, hey, get me

911
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:25.400
<v Speaker 1>out of here. I mean that they're these guys are

912
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:26.039
<v Speaker 1>really stuck.

913
00:52:26.679 --> 00:52:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they are. And you're same with the Yankee system, right,

914
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:34.559
<v Speaker 2>not to the same extent right now as the Dodgers,

915
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:36.840
<v Speaker 2>but it is the same principle, right it is.

916
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:40.199
<v Speaker 1>It is, Timmy, let's take a break and then let's

917
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:41.280
<v Speaker 1>talk about your catchers.

918
00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Sounds good.

919
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:58.480
<v Speaker 1>And so nothing's nothing's cooking on my draft here. I'm

920
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:01.559
<v Speaker 1>six or seven and slots away from picking.

921
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:05.880
<v Speaker 2>So speaking of catchers, I did remove one from the

922
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:10.079
<v Speaker 2>list with the Kim signing.

923
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Who is that Diego cart Oh, that's right, we didn't

924
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:16.719
<v Speaker 1>talk about That's right. I had him in the notes

925
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:21.039
<v Speaker 1>as well. He got DFA, which is rough, which means

926
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:23.480
<v Speaker 1>any he's taken off the forty man. That's what that means.

927
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:26.039
<v Speaker 1>And any team can now sign him to a major

928
00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:28.199
<v Speaker 1>league deal if they want, probably not, but a minor

929
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:32.920
<v Speaker 1>league deal. It is truly remarkable how far he has fallen.

930
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:38.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, patience is a virtue. The Dodgers don't have much

931
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:42.719
<v Speaker 2>of it right now, do they. Hey, Carte is We've

932
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:48.000
<v Speaker 2>discussed him numerous times, and he's a product of his

933
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:49.199
<v Speaker 2>own making right now.

934
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:53.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he just yeah, he came in overweight that one year.

935
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:56.880
<v Speaker 1>And I mean from everything I hear from the Dodgers,

936
00:53:56.920 --> 00:53:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Dodgers directly, they really like the kid, you know, but

937
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>he just didn't perform and others passed them, and you know,

938
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:04.840
<v Speaker 1>they need it room.

939
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:07.639
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, he's sick and he's looking up at when

940
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:11.239
<v Speaker 2>he's looking up at rushing. Yeah, that's not a good sign,

941
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:12.039
<v Speaker 2>is it. No?

942
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:14.719
<v Speaker 1>And it's just it's I you know, I'm sure the

943
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Dodgers would have loved to have kept him. I hope

944
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:19.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody else signs them. There's a ten day waiting period.

945
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:23.480
<v Speaker 1>But if he re signs with the Dodgers, it's not

946
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:26.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not good. I mean, if you got him in

947
00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the Dynasty League, good luck. I mean, it's probably not

948
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the guy to hold on to.

949
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, and let's face it, we know what the

950
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Dodgers' plans are or the catcher for next year. They

951
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:39.360
<v Speaker 2>brought in Austin Barnes, thirty five year old Austin Barnes

952
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:42.639
<v Speaker 2>to be their back up to Will Smith. Yeah.

953
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, also Barnes, he's always been there unless he moved.

954
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:51.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's he's a long term yet Dodger guy, right, Yeah.

955
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:53.079
<v Speaker 2>I guess sorry that. Yeah, they still have barn City.

956
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:55.840
<v Speaker 2>They they picked up an option or something. They kept

957
00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Barnes for next year, so we know what their plans are.

958
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Will Smith is still elite, he's still not

959
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:05.800
<v Speaker 1>that old and he's signed. And you know, I'm Dalton

960
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:08.599
<v Speaker 1>rushing words he play where is Diego Cartie? I mean,

961
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:10.920
<v Speaker 1>it's it's tough. It is really really tough if you're

962
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:13.559
<v Speaker 1>you're in the Dodgers farm system at the moment, Timmy,

963
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:17.360
<v Speaker 1>let us talk about your catchers. Okay. One of the

964
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:20.719
<v Speaker 1>pieces of feedback I gave Tim, I don't know if

965
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:23.440
<v Speaker 1>you've received that yet, And Tim kind of gave this

966
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:26.360
<v Speaker 1>opening paragraph, which is well written and makes a lot

967
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:29.519
<v Speaker 1>of sense, like you can go here, you can go there.

968
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:32.800
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? How are you handling catching?

969
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Uh? I'm looking at the Midgiar, I'm okay. I probably

970
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:49.199
<v Speaker 2>will not have rostered any of the top eight or

971
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:57.960
<v Speaker 2>so catchers. I am looking at the Austin Wells Kybird

972
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:04.880
<v Speaker 2>gueez uh, Gabriel mar Marino. I haven't Herrera might take

973
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:11.119
<v Speaker 2>a chance on bow Naylor's sitting sitting down after twenty,

974
00:56:11.159 --> 00:56:14.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm not going to be. I'm gonna be.

975
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:16.519
<v Speaker 1>That's a little later than mid tier, though.

976
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Well mid mid mid tier for me is after after.

977
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I would say about pick eight, Francisco Alvarez is going

978
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:31.000
<v Speaker 2>at one fifty one, which is your tenth round. The

979
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:35.400
<v Speaker 2>odds of me owning anybody above that are probably relatively slim,

980
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:37.960
<v Speaker 2>unless I'm in a keeper situation. I got somebody.

981
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Salvarez is an eleventh round pick. That's where you gotta

982
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:43.480
<v Speaker 1>grab the eleventh round, So that's that's where you're looking.

983
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Tenth round, get them, jump the line around and grab.

984
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'm looking at Alvarez, l angel Leers, Real Muto.

985
00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:58.039
<v Speaker 2>I like the price on Real Muto. Uh, Tyler Stevenson.

986
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:01.480
<v Speaker 2>That's sort of your top seven or eight are all

987
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:07.480
<v Speaker 2>going in, But until you get to o'hapi in round age,

988
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:10.079
<v Speaker 2>you're looking at around seven six and up. I'm going

989
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:13.360
<v Speaker 2>to be focusing on high end bess, high end starting pitching,

990
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:15.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe with a closer in there. In the first seven

991
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:18.280
<v Speaker 2>rounds or so. I get the value, but I just

992
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:23.559
<v Speaker 2>I think I can do better overall by by looking

993
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:26.239
<v Speaker 2>at what I'm calling the mid tier, which is Alvarez

994
00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:30.800
<v Speaker 2>to about pick eighteen nineteen somewhere in that ring.

995
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:36.079
<v Speaker 1>My analysis, Mine analysis proved as well your point. I

996
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:38.559
<v Speaker 1>think we've been saying for a long time that catching

997
00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:41.480
<v Speaker 1>is getting deeper. It is, and I think we're seeing

998
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the fruits of that now. And Austin Wells, you know,

999
00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:47.880
<v Speaker 1>third and Rookie of the year, fine guy, Tyler Stevenson.

1000
00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:51.280
<v Speaker 1>How many home runs did Ryan Jeffers have? And those

1001
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:54.199
<v Speaker 1>are those are guys that you can get in the

1002
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:57.840
<v Speaker 1>fourteenth fifteen, sixteenth round. I just think there's value there.

1003
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I in the first I did. I think I

1004
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.400
<v Speaker 2>got Wells in the eighteenth or nineteenth round something like that. Yeah,

1005
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:06.880
<v Speaker 2>he he just kept following, Nobody kept taking him, so

1006
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:13.039
<v Speaker 2>finally I took about me sit there forever. You know

1007
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:18.519
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. It's uh yeah, So I get the

1008
00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:21.480
<v Speaker 2>value of having the consistency of a will Smith or

1009
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:25.039
<v Speaker 2>the upside of Yan Yourdiz or Adley Rechman, or the

1010
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:29.800
<v Speaker 2>overall great numbers from William Contreras. But I think the

1011
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:34.239
<v Speaker 2>difference between who I take other than a catcher and

1012
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:36.679
<v Speaker 2>the catcher I take later on I think is going

1013
00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:40.159
<v Speaker 2>to prove to be more valuable than William William Contreras

1014
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:50.039
<v Speaker 2>and a twelve thirteenth round. Uh, whatever's on the board, yep.

1015
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:53.239
<v Speaker 1>And William Contreras is very good. He's your number one guy.

1016
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:55.840
<v Speaker 1>He is the ADPs. His ADP is twenty seven to

1017
00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:58.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty three, is very very good. He's in the elite

1018
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:02.039
<v Speaker 1>of the elite. How hardy hits the ball, exit velocities,

1019
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:04.960
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff, So he deserves that number

1020
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:05.519
<v Speaker 1>one ranking.

1021
00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I basically, in my tears, William Contreras, I

1022
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:13.920
<v Speaker 2>have him right now as the only elite catcher. You know,

1023
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:18.559
<v Speaker 2>what really sean to me wasn't so much the home runs. Sorry,

1024
00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:21.440
<v Speaker 2>every ized bad. That all speaks for itself. But he

1025
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:24.679
<v Speaker 2>scored ninety nine runs, which is twenty two more than

1026
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:28.360
<v Speaker 2>the next closest to his runner up twenty two runs scored.

1027
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:30.199
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of runs scored.

1028
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, coming from the catching position is amazing. But in

1029
00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:37.280
<v Speaker 1>my draft him, he went in the second round, the

1030
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:40.519
<v Speaker 1>eighth pick. I mean he went twenty third.

1031
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:44.519
<v Speaker 2>That's that's yeah, Yeah, I get it. That's not going

1032
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:46.599
<v Speaker 2>to be the way I play the game.

1033
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:49.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, no, he went in front of Bryce Harper,

1034
00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:56.039
<v Speaker 1>in front of you know, to tell Martay, I struggle

1035
00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:56.320
<v Speaker 1>with that.

1036
00:59:57.400 --> 00:59:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what, if I was going to take

1037
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Controller in round two, I'd be doubling down and taking

1038
01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:08.599
<v Speaker 2>Adley or Yan your Diaz or Celpras or cal Riley.

1039
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:13.199
<v Speaker 2>I'd want will Smith. I wouldn't be going just William Contreras.

1040
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I'd be over interesting at that position. That's that's the

1041
01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:18.639
<v Speaker 2>way I would play it. If I was playing that game,

1042
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:21.159
<v Speaker 2>I would want to have two of the top seven

1043
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:25.440
<v Speaker 2>eight catchers yea and hit in that direction. If I'm

1044
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:28.239
<v Speaker 2>going to look at Contreras, what's the point of taking

1045
01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Contreras and then doubling doubling down in round twenty four

1046
01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:36.960
<v Speaker 2>with Joey Burt. It's part of self defeating, you know.

1047
01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But the theory is it goes back to ron

1048
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:46.039
<v Speaker 1>Chandler and his scarcity resource or theory that catching is

1049
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:48.079
<v Speaker 1>such a scarce resource that you need to get a

1050
01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:52.719
<v Speaker 1>high end one, and that William Trais is so much

1051
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:56.840
<v Speaker 1>better than you know, the number twentieth catcher off the board,

1052
01:00:56.880 --> 01:00:59.400
<v Speaker 1>that that's why you go there. But I'm not sure

1053
01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I agree with the theory. I'm not sure it's true

1054
01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:03.960
<v Speaker 1>anymore with catchers. I guess that's my point.

1055
01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:07.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, we've come a long way from the days

1056
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:15.519
<v Speaker 2>of Oh Orga Pisada and who is the big guy

1057
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:19.559
<v Speaker 2>from the Mets Hall of Famer Dodgers guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1058
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:22.159
<v Speaker 2>We've come a long way from having two three catchers

1059
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:25.480
<v Speaker 2>and twenty three let's fill in the blanks because it

1060
01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:30.079
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter catchers. Now, we we have catchers into the

1061
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:35.440
<v Speaker 2>late teens that produce decent numbers, and even five years ago,

1062
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:37.480
<v Speaker 2>we didn't have that, did we. No.

1063
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:40.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's still weighing pictures. I mean, he's still

1064
01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:43.320
<v Speaker 1>going to get five hundred bats or you know, it's

1065
01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:44.800
<v Speaker 1>not going to be it's going to get six hundred

1066
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.039
<v Speaker 1>and fifty or something like that that you know, you

1067
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:49.280
<v Speaker 1>get some of these, you know, like who I picked Durant?

1068
01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Jared Durant, is you know, going to bat lead off

1069
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:56.920
<v Speaker 1>and just rack up at bats for you and stole

1070
01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:58.360
<v Speaker 1>a base opportunity, et cetera.

1071
01:01:59.119 --> 01:01:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm yep.

1072
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, coming in at number two, you now you've got

1073
01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:05.880
<v Speaker 1>them flipped. You got Adlie Rutchman in front of Yon

1074
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:09.280
<v Speaker 1>your Diaz and goes Yon your Diaz than Natalie Rutchman.

1075
01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:12.039
<v Speaker 1>What are you thinking with two and three? Here?

1076
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:17.519
<v Speaker 2>H retch fand really had himself a terrible second half,

1077
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:20.800
<v Speaker 2>bad like that. Yeah, it was ugly. I think you

1078
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:23.320
<v Speaker 2>only had three home runs in the second half. First half,

1079
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:26.000
<v Speaker 2>he was looking like the best offensive catcher in the game.

1080
01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:30.840
<v Speaker 2>And I don't see a repeat there. And as much

1081
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:35.000
<v Speaker 2>as I like the potential from Diaz, I don't think.

1082
01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:38.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Diaz is a thirty one hundred bat

1083
01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:41.679
<v Speaker 2>and I think Adli Ruchmand still could be. So that's

1084
01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:43.519
<v Speaker 2>that's why I have him flipped.

1085
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Yon, your Diaz chases everything. I mean, how

1086
01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:48.760
<v Speaker 1>many walks did he have last year?

1087
01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't very many, It wasn't an It wasn't. I have

1088
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:56.800
<v Speaker 2>some concerns with Diez, but I think a floor of

1089
01:02:56.800 --> 01:03:02.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighty is a solid enough floor when you take

1090
01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:05.960
<v Speaker 2>into consideration his youth versus the guy that I have

1091
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:06.760
<v Speaker 2>at number four.

1092
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jan Your Diaz walk three point nine percent of

1093
01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:13.119
<v Speaker 1>the time, which was an improvement from two point nine

1094
01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:16.159
<v Speaker 1>percent of the time in twenty twenty. This guy's a free.

1095
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Swinger, Yeah, yeah, he is. I just think Adle is

1096
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:26.079
<v Speaker 2>a better all around player and pay my selection as

1097
01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:28.559
<v Speaker 2>him being my number two catcher just reflects that.

1098
01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Then you go Salivard or Peress. Sal Perez Cayl Riley

1099
01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:36.280
<v Speaker 1>finishes out the top five, which is chalk with how

1100
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:39.119
<v Speaker 1>they're going in the NFC. Anything to say about those two.

1101
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, Salperez last time he had less than twenty homers

1102
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:47.320
<v Speaker 2>was twenty fourteen. That's a long time ago. In a

1103
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:51.400
<v Speaker 2>full season cal Rally, he's got everything you want except

1104
01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:56.039
<v Speaker 2>for one thing batting average. But the numbers he produces

1105
01:03:56.039 --> 01:03:59.239
<v Speaker 2>are such high caliber, like thirty four home he was

1106
01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:02.639
<v Speaker 2>first home runs with thirty four. Second in RBI it's

1107
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:06.559
<v Speaker 2>with one hundred, yeah, third and run score with seventy three.

1108
01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:10.400
<v Speaker 2>You can live with a two twenty batting average when

1109
01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:14.199
<v Speaker 2>you're elite in those other categories.

1110
01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Up against his peers, Tim Goes, Will Smith and Wilson Contreras,

1111
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:21.440
<v Speaker 1>they're flipped in the NFBC, but they're very close. For

1112
01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:24.519
<v Speaker 1>for slots, we're gonna call that chalk Logan O'hoppi comes

1113
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:27.119
<v Speaker 1>in at number eight. Anything to say about those.

1114
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Three, Ah, when you look at the catcher position, Will

1115
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Smith is about as safe as you're gonna get.

1116
01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I believe so.

1117
01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, over the past four years, twenty five, twenty four,

1118
01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:45.239
<v Speaker 2>nineteen and twenty home runs, the RBIs are amazing. Seventy six,

1119
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:50.519
<v Speaker 2>eighty seven, seventy six and seventy five RBIs over the

1120
01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:54.000
<v Speaker 2>past four years. Safe floor in the sixth seventh round. Yeah,

1121
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:55.960
<v Speaker 2>he's got to be your guy. And that's why I

1122
01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:59.119
<v Speaker 2>moved him up a little, just a notch. I was

1123
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:02.000
<v Speaker 2>flipp back and forth as far as where I should

1124
01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:05.519
<v Speaker 2>put Contraras, and I had him as high as five

1125
01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and as low as right where he is, and they're

1126
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:12.519
<v Speaker 2>they're all fine choices.

1127
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:14.800
<v Speaker 1>And you could argue that Wilson Contreras is gonna be

1128
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:16.920
<v Speaker 1>at first base this year, so there might be more

1129
01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:19.559
<v Speaker 1>at badstly played all the time. But this could be

1130
01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:21.119
<v Speaker 1>the last year he's a Catri.

1131
01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Eligible if the Cardinals are true to their word, Yeah,

1132
01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:27.639
<v Speaker 2>it will be his last year. And Logan o'happy I

1133
01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:32.519
<v Speaker 2>love Okay. I think what we learned last year, the

1134
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:40.199
<v Speaker 2>important thing was the shoulders to do heal and that

1135
01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:43.360
<v Speaker 2>torn La laboring the costume cost of most of his

1136
01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:44.239
<v Speaker 2>rookie season.

1137
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1138
01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:48.519
<v Speaker 2>I think that, as I say in mine ear, I

1139
01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:50.519
<v Speaker 2>think the best has yet to come. It wouldn't surprise

1140
01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:52.920
<v Speaker 2>me at all to see Logan o'hapi move up this

1141
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:58.599
<v Speaker 2>list fairly, dramatically, fairly quickly, and right now there is

1142
01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:03.719
<v Speaker 2>a there is a gap between Wilson Contreras will Smith

1143
01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:07.159
<v Speaker 2>at ninety three. Then you were to one sixteen, and

1144
01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:12.840
<v Speaker 2>that to me is your your second tier. Moving afterwards,

1145
01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:17.920
<v Speaker 2>you're looking at the Francisco Alvarez down the list pretty

1146
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:19.960
<v Speaker 2>well begins another tier.

1147
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm looking at his Baseball Savant page. That's Logan

1148
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:27.239
<v Speaker 1>o hop It's fascinating average ex VELOSSI way up there

1149
01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:31.480
<v Speaker 1>at seventieth percentile, heart hit rates, seventy ninth percentile. Bat

1150
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:35.039
<v Speaker 1>speed though is at the twenty eighth percentile. What he

1151
01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.679
<v Speaker 1>is doing is his launch angle. Sweet spot. He's got

1152
01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:42.840
<v Speaker 1>so much launch in his swing he's able to control

1153
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:45.159
<v Speaker 1>the launch and meet it so that he gets the

1154
01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:50.960
<v Speaker 1>maximum value out of launch in bat speed, which is

1155
01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:54.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty It's a truly remarkable feat. So he's got aggressive,

1156
01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:58.599
<v Speaker 1>got great hand eye coordination, and really great back control.

1157
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:02.559
<v Speaker 1>He strikes out too much, doesn't walk enough, but man,

1158
01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:04.719
<v Speaker 1>guys should be able to hit some home runs based

1159
01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:05.119
<v Speaker 1>on this.

1160
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I said, I think the best is yet

1161
01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:11.039
<v Speaker 2>to come. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see

1162
01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:13.639
<v Speaker 2>o' hobby move into the twenty five to thirty home

1163
01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:18.480
<v Speaker 2>run range with seventy to eighty RBI's. Part of the

1164
01:07:18.519 --> 01:07:21.280
<v Speaker 2>problem that I think will limit o' hobby is the

1165
01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:24.719
<v Speaker 2>surrounding cast, the same problem with say Landelaire's moving down

1166
01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:28.599
<v Speaker 2>the list of bit Yeah, the Angels aren't the powerhouse,

1167
01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:31.960
<v Speaker 2>and neither are the a's that will that will limit

1168
01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:35.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, you take a look where all of the

1169
01:07:35.159 --> 01:07:38.320
<v Speaker 2>catchers above pretty well are. They got pretty good offenses

1170
01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:44.480
<v Speaker 2>around them except for Ally maybe Yeah, it's okay, it's okay,

1171
01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:46.880
<v Speaker 2>it's not a poor offense.

1172
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:50.639
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the Angels are not very good.

1173
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:53.920
<v Speaker 2>So no, the Angels aren't there. Neither are the a's

1174
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:56.920
<v Speaker 2>and that will limit RBI opportunities. I believe.

1175
01:07:57.440 --> 01:07:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to me, let's take a break and come back,

1176
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and then we're going to finally get a movement. Tim

1177
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:12.480
<v Speaker 1>is finally stepping out with one guy about time. Tim

1178
01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:14.840
<v Speaker 1>will tell you he doesn't look at the NFC rankings

1179
01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:18.680
<v Speaker 1>at all because these are his rankings, and when they

1180
01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:21.960
<v Speaker 1>they align with what the NFC is, it's just they align.

1181
01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:24.720
<v Speaker 1>There is no there's no contriving going on.

1182
01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:29.520
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I I put I put things together based

1183
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:32.239
<v Speaker 2>on my right. They're my rankings.

1184
01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I even I even told Tim because Tim, Tim

1185
01:08:37.039 --> 01:08:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and I had the succession last year. I had this

1186
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:42.359
<v Speaker 1>brilliant idea that I could take. I could automate seventy

1187
01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:46.039
<v Speaker 1>percent of Tim's job. Tim, let me let me give

1188
01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:50.239
<v Speaker 1>you all the all the NFC rankings. Everybody order. Remember

1189
01:08:50.239 --> 01:08:53.119
<v Speaker 1>I told you this by position, and all you gotta

1190
01:08:53.159 --> 01:08:55.439
<v Speaker 1>do is like, all you got to do is move

1191
01:08:55.479 --> 01:08:58.680
<v Speaker 1>them around? And timay is No, I'd rather go through

1192
01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:02.319
<v Speaker 1>it and put them and not be influenced by Worther

1193
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Frank and be able to type the names in because

1194
01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:09.399
<v Speaker 1>then I have a better feel for it as a technologist.

1195
01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I was offended by that as a baseball guy, I'm like, okay,

1196
01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that.

1197
01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what, over the course of the year, okay,

1198
01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:25.359
<v Speaker 2>our season okay ends at the end of September. Okay,

1199
01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I start putting this together in November and December, and

1200
01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:33.199
<v Speaker 2>there's a gap in there. Okay. And as much as

1201
01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I would like to be delusional and state my memory

1202
01:09:36.720 --> 01:09:39.640
<v Speaker 2>is such that I can remember what they did last

1203
01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:43.800
<v Speaker 2>year and all of the inner workings, I can't. So

1204
01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:46.359
<v Speaker 2>as I go through and I type them and look

1205
01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:49.039
<v Speaker 2>at all the names individually, it gives me a chance

1206
01:09:49.119 --> 01:09:51.880
<v Speaker 2>to reference back to what they did and just double check.

1207
01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:54.359
<v Speaker 2>And it's a it's a lot of work. I agree

1208
01:09:54.359 --> 01:09:57.479
<v Speaker 2>with you. Your system would I could. I could bang

1209
01:09:57.560 --> 01:10:00.640
<v Speaker 2>this off in probably ten percent of the time, but

1210
01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:02.760
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't feel.

1211
01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Comfortable doing it. Rich Yeah.

1212
01:10:04.119 --> 01:10:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just not who I am, you know what

1213
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean. I'm we gotta look at it, right.

1214
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm all about see, I'm all about getting automation and

1215
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:15.960
<v Speaker 1>let me come up with algorithms that like figure all

1216
01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:18.319
<v Speaker 1>the stuff out and then slurp something together and then

1217
01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll find tune it and you take it. You do it.

1218
01:10:20.720 --> 01:10:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Just the opposite. I mean you literally go from from

1219
01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:27.079
<v Speaker 1>building blocks, let's build this thing up, build it up

1220
01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:29.239
<v Speaker 1>the way I want it, and then I'll find tune

1221
01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:31.800
<v Speaker 1>and I I let everything. I let the system tell

1222
01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:35.039
<v Speaker 1>me how it should be based on algorithms that I've built.

1223
01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:36.199
<v Speaker 1>It's just a different way to do it.

1224
01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I go through roster resource and go team by

1225
01:10:39.119 --> 01:10:43.199
<v Speaker 2>team and manually type out all the names as I'm looking, and.

1226
01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I have a type I haven't typed. I haven't typed

1227
01:10:48.760 --> 01:10:51.479
<v Speaker 1>a player's name in all year, you know.

1228
01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:55.479
<v Speaker 2>I just you saw the word document. Every single name

1229
01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:56.520
<v Speaker 2>on that was typed in.

1230
01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I subscribe. I subscribe to a service that actually puts

1231
01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the players, particularly the Latin players, so they've got all

1232
01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:09.800
<v Speaker 1>those apostrophes and ascente cues and all that kind of

1233
01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:13.359
<v Speaker 1>stuffer over there, and it actually filters all that stuff

1234
01:11:13.399 --> 01:11:15.680
<v Speaker 1>out because then you don't get machinal names if you

1235
01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:19.359
<v Speaker 1>try to match without without the accent being there. So

1236
01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I've got that built into it as well. So when

1237
01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I type in logan o' hoppy logan o HOPI comes up.

1238
01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, No, what I do is I rely on

1239
01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:32.239
<v Speaker 2>my editor to me calls correction.

1240
01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's impressive. All right to me, the first one

1241
01:11:36.279 --> 01:11:38.600
<v Speaker 1>that you step out on here in a big way. Actually,

1242
01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:40.399
<v Speaker 1>as Francisco Alvarez, you're all in.

1243
01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, when I look back to that season

1244
01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:46.720
<v Speaker 2>is a twenty one year ol when he had twenty five,

1245
01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:50.720
<v Speaker 2>I am all in. I think Alvarez is going to

1246
01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:52.600
<v Speaker 2>take the next step this year, and I think we're

1247
01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:56.359
<v Speaker 2>I think that twenty five home run season is not

1248
01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:58.800
<v Speaker 2>his best season. I think we're going to see better,

1249
01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:02.439
<v Speaker 2>better to come, and I'm willing to pay a little

1250
01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:05.039
<v Speaker 2>bit of a premium for Elvis. I think he's going

1251
01:12:05.079 --> 01:12:08.279
<v Speaker 2>to have a very good year. I'm a believer.

1252
01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:11.319
<v Speaker 1>I have a tendency to agree with you if you

1253
01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:15.560
<v Speaker 1>like the power. There's few catchers that I think can

1254
01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:21.600
<v Speaker 1>provide that level of pop. He's still twenty three. He

1255
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:26.880
<v Speaker 1>does average ex velocity and Howard rates aren't huge, bat

1256
01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:31.800
<v Speaker 1>speed is above average. He's a better catcher than people

1257
01:12:31.880 --> 01:12:34.000
<v Speaker 1>gave him credit coming through the minor leagues. By the

1258
01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:37.800
<v Speaker 1>way is framing and pop times, those were all really good.

1259
01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:40.920
<v Speaker 1>So you know, for people who thought he'd have to

1260
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:42.800
<v Speaker 1>move to first base, that's not going to happen.

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01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, his defense was never heralded. It was so bad

1262
01:12:48.079 --> 01:12:51.319
<v Speaker 2>that generated. Yeah, and I agree with you. I think

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01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:53.560
<v Speaker 2>he's better than what was anticipated.

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<v Speaker 1>What is a little curious, and I think maybe we're

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01:12:58.079 --> 01:13:00.239
<v Speaker 1>there's some value here is in two thousand if you

1266
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:02.119
<v Speaker 1>look at the date in twenty twenty three, he hit

1267
01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the ball a lot harder, and as a twenty two

1268
01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:07.279
<v Speaker 1>and a twenty three year old, you don't generally see

1269
01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:10.920
<v Speaker 1>things go down. They usually go up. So I wouldn't

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01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:14.720
<v Speaker 1>be surprised if there was some kind of injury that

1271
01:13:14.880 --> 01:13:18.720
<v Speaker 1>was providing this lack of exit velocity. Because twenty twenty

1272
01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:20.960
<v Speaker 1>three he looked like he was a power hitter. Last

1273
01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:22.880
<v Speaker 1>year he did not, and it showed in his eleven

1274
01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:23.720
<v Speaker 1>home runs.

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01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:26.600
<v Speaker 2>M Yeah, agreed.

1276
01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:30.880
<v Speaker 1>So going back to Thames thought, there's probably more power

1277
01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:34.800
<v Speaker 1>in the bat than what he's showing. Shaye Langlears finishes

1278
01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:37.680
<v Speaker 1>up the top ten. As anything else you want to

1279
01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:39.119
<v Speaker 1>say about Langlears.

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01:13:39.520 --> 01:13:41.760
<v Speaker 2>The only thing that I'd like to do is provide

1281
01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:46.279
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of food for thought. He had twenty

1282
01:13:46.359 --> 01:13:49.920
<v Speaker 2>nine homers and drove in eighty runs last year. He

1283
01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:55.279
<v Speaker 2>also struggled with a two twenty four batting average. If

1284
01:13:55.279 --> 01:13:58.720
<v Speaker 2>you want to draft Cowl rally, why don't you wait

1285
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:03.079
<v Speaker 2>three rounds and up shade Languelars because you're getting pretty

1286
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:06.800
<v Speaker 2>much the same player. Just some food for thought.

1287
01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, I mean the you still put Oakland.

1288
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:14.079
<v Speaker 1>I how are we characterizing the athletics because the way

1289
01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:18.119
<v Speaker 1>it isn't fangraphs. They just have athletics. They have at H.

1290
01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hate a t H. I haven't decided yet

1291
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:23.239
<v Speaker 2>whether I want to go O A C or S

1292
01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:26.399
<v Speaker 2>A C O A K sorry or s A C.

1293
01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't think it's O A K O A

1294
01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:31.399
<v Speaker 1>K anymore. I think that's definitely gone.

1295
01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's go s A C. Now if that doesn't matter,

1296
01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:40.319
<v Speaker 2>what's what.

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01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Is the I got that? I thank you, Tom. Let's

1298
01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:53.760
<v Speaker 1>see I deserve Let's say we're so an FBC still

1299
01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:58.039
<v Speaker 1>says O A K. They still got Oakland. So so

1300
01:14:58.079 --> 01:15:00.960
<v Speaker 1>they're they're more established than we are, So stick with Oakland.

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01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:03.479
<v Speaker 1>Oak I think you're stepping out too much. If you

1302
01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:08.239
<v Speaker 1>go SAC, people go what so. But it'll be interesting

1303
01:15:08.279 --> 01:15:10.920
<v Speaker 1>to see what they what everybody eventually goes. I guess

1304
01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:13.319
<v Speaker 1>we're waiting on MLB to tell us what they're doing.

1305
01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it could be could be a while. But

1306
01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:20.800
<v Speaker 2>now I've got Langlers is pretty well talked too, but

1307
01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I think it's.

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01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a brilliant observation Tim makes. If you

1309
01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:29.000
<v Speaker 1>like cal Riley, wait forty picks and take Shane lang

1310
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Lears because they're very similar.

1311
01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:34.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The only difference I think is is the maybe

1312
01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:37.239
<v Speaker 2>the supporting cast. But you look at the home run

1313
01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:41.680
<v Speaker 2>RBI numbers batting average, Yeah, it's ones of me. The

1314
01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:44.079
<v Speaker 2>other's a mini me, but are very close ones.

1315
01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I yep uh number eleven through fifteen, J T. Lilmuto,

1316
01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Stevenson, Austin Wells, Ryan Jeffers up for slots, and

1317
01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:56.279
<v Speaker 1>then Cabert Ruiz. You like Ryan Jeffers in that group

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01:15:56.319 --> 01:15:57.479
<v Speaker 1>the most? Tell us why?

1319
01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:01.319
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea because I didn't think I really

1320
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:04.520
<v Speaker 2>liked him all that much. I think the problem with

1321
01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Jeffers is a lot of people take a look at

1322
01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:11.079
<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty three batting average at two seventy six.

1323
01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I think he posted like a three sixty babbit that year.

1324
01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:20.720
<v Speaker 2>The two twenty six last year, again, the babbot was

1325
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:27.479
<v Speaker 2>incredibly low. I think somewhere in between is a likely destination. Ah,

1326
01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:31.199
<v Speaker 2>I like I like Jeffers for the homer and RBI

1327
01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:37.119
<v Speaker 2>production over for say Luiz Moreno Sean Murphy. But there,

1328
01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:40.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm it's not a lot to pick and choose. They're

1329
01:16:40.760 --> 01:16:42.680
<v Speaker 2>all very close in the in this range.

1330
01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:44.880
<v Speaker 1>But this is this is the area that you're fishing in.

1331
01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Romoltos Wells Jeffers.

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01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'm finding despite the fact that i'm i'm

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01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I match up with Wells. I granted I a small

1334
01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:01.439
<v Speaker 2>sample size. After I was in there was no love

1335
01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:04.880
<v Speaker 2>for Wells at all, Okay, so I ended up getting

1336
01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:07.840
<v Speaker 2>a great bargain. I thought, I'm, you know, towards the

1337
01:17:07.880 --> 01:17:12.319
<v Speaker 2>eighteenth nineteenth I'd give I'd watch him very very closely.

1338
01:17:12.479 --> 01:17:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I like Austin Wells. I think he had a fine

1339
01:17:14.760 --> 01:17:17.520
<v Speaker 2>rookie season. He's young enough we could see more, and

1340
01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:20.039
<v Speaker 2>he plays on a team that's gonna have him. There's

1341
01:17:20.039 --> 01:17:22.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a lot of guys on base ahead of him, right.

1342
01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The data looks okay. The nothing really stands out.

1343
01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, does walk a lot, strikeout, mid pack power, midpack,

1344
01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:35.560
<v Speaker 1>no speed, there's nothing that that highlights that made this

1345
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:38.359
<v Speaker 1>guy's gonna be an All Star, And there's nothing that

1346
01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:41.119
<v Speaker 1>says he's a bus He's kind of sitting in the middle.

1347
01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, perfect mid round choice as much the same as

1348
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:48.880
<v Speaker 2>you know you look at Yeah, you look at caber Ruiz.

1349
01:17:50.199 --> 01:17:52.840
<v Speaker 2>He's young, show he's only what twenty five, twenty six.

1350
01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:57.359
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a I think there's a better season

1351
01:17:57.680 --> 01:18:02.760
<v Speaker 2>than what we've saw movie forward. The one that concerns

1352
01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:06.760
<v Speaker 2>me probably the most from this group is JT. Real

1353
01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Muto and the potential for overpaying for him. I think

1354
01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:15.359
<v Speaker 2>the decline has commenced, and I, hey, there could be

1355
01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:18.159
<v Speaker 2>another twenty twenty three in the tank, but I ain't

1356
01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:20.079
<v Speaker 2>going to bet on it and pay forward. So if

1357
01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:23.920
<v Speaker 2>you're looking purely at name recognition, that could be a mistake.

1358
01:18:23.960 --> 01:18:24.720
<v Speaker 2>With real Muto.

1359
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:32.079
<v Speaker 1>I would agree that guys like this who go earlier

1360
01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:34.079
<v Speaker 1>than they should based on name recognition, but if he

1361
01:18:34.119 --> 01:18:37.479
<v Speaker 1>starts the fall, I would be interested.

1362
01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree.

1363
01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Sixteen through twenty is Gabriel Marino, a guy that you

1364
01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:49.920
<v Speaker 1>don't like at all, and he's somewhat chalk as Sean Murphy.

1365
01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:52.000
<v Speaker 1>So we'll go back to him in a minute. Jonah

1366
01:18:52.039 --> 01:18:56.760
<v Speaker 1>him up five slots, Ivan Herrera, Connor Wong who you're

1367
01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:59.079
<v Speaker 1>down three on which I totally get you. A terrible

1368
01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:03.039
<v Speaker 1>two thirds of the season a great April and May.

1369
01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:06.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's just what it was, just four point thirty

1370
01:19:06.039 --> 01:19:08.880
<v Speaker 1>babbit driven or something crazy like that. Tell me about

1371
01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:11.479
<v Speaker 1>Gabriel Marino, Well.

1372
01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I love the hit two, but is it ever going?

1373
01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:17.479
<v Speaker 2>Is the power ever going to catch up to it?

1374
01:19:17.840 --> 01:19:23.159
<v Speaker 2>That would be my concern. And when you look at

1375
01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:27.640
<v Speaker 2>the supporting cast around him as far as catchers, ye know,

1376
01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:30.399
<v Speaker 2>Jeffers is a twenty home run guy. I think Ruiz

1377
01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:33.000
<v Speaker 2>can be a twenty home run guy. Murphy's already hit twenty.

1378
01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm him. You're looking at you know, fifteen Ivan Herrera.

1379
01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:40.479
<v Speaker 2>You can you can spec based pick based on that

1380
01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:43.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three season at Triple A Men Memphis. Now

1381
01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:46.560
<v Speaker 2>he's got the job. I just have trouble with Marino

1382
01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:48.640
<v Speaker 2>because I don't know if he's ever going to be

1383
01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:50.319
<v Speaker 2>more than ten to twelve home runs.

1384
01:19:50.960 --> 01:19:54.239
<v Speaker 1>If you look at the data, because I researched extensively, Gable,

1385
01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Marina Flanner hit that guy hit. There's no question. Chase

1386
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:02.159
<v Speaker 1>rates with rates, strike ball, grace are all upper tier.

1387
01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:05.960
<v Speaker 1>He hits the ball pretty hard, he has no leverage

1388
01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:09.119
<v Speaker 1>in a swing. He's Mical Garcia all over again. I mean,

1389
01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:12.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a guy that had a average exa Velossie of

1390
01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:15.319
<v Speaker 1>ninety miles an hour, which is that's that's a leap

1391
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:18.399
<v Speaker 1>hit over ninety's that's what you want, not a leap.

1392
01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:21.319
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely above average. But he's got a launch angle

1393
01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:24.239
<v Speaker 1>last year of eight point eight degrees, which was double

1394
01:20:24.399 --> 01:20:27.159
<v Speaker 1>what it was in twenty twenty three. He needs to

1395
01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:29.399
<v Speaker 1>add a little bit more leverage to that swing. To me,

1396
01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I think then the power happens. But it's twenty four

1397
01:20:32.680 --> 01:20:35.199
<v Speaker 1>years old. It would seem like it's a good setup.

1398
01:20:35.399 --> 01:20:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Whether it happens or not, who knows.

1399
01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:44.880
<v Speaker 2>And it's not that I'm down on him, it's there

1400
01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:49.119
<v Speaker 2>are other catchers. Yeah, as important as the batting average

1401
01:20:49.159 --> 01:20:52.119
<v Speaker 2>category he is, you know, home runs an RBI's count

1402
01:20:52.119 --> 01:20:56.199
<v Speaker 2>two and I just haven't seen enough you get to,

1403
01:20:57.960 --> 01:20:59.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, from a power part to move him up.

1404
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:02.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, hey, if he if he hits twenty home

1405
01:21:02.199 --> 01:21:04.800
<v Speaker 2>runs this year, he could be a top ten catcher.

1406
01:21:06.239 --> 01:21:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's his hit tool would suggest that.

1407
01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I agree. I mean we can always tucking theory,

1408
01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:14.800
<v Speaker 1>but until the guys actually do it, I mean, it's

1409
01:21:14.800 --> 01:21:18.359
<v Speaker 1>still just that theory. Sean Murphy, you've been down on

1410
01:21:18.479 --> 01:21:20.640
<v Speaker 1>him for quite a while and think you he's going

1411
01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:26.119
<v Speaker 1>to lose playing time to your number. Oh forgot, where

1412
01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:31.039
<v Speaker 1>did you put Carter Jensen yet? Drake Baldwin, that's right,

1413
01:21:31.119 --> 01:21:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Drake Baldwin.

1414
01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:37.960
<v Speaker 2>He should be in the thirties. Thirties somewhere, Yeah, thirty five? Okay, Yeah,

1415
01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:42.640
<v Speaker 2>my narrative sums up my thoughts to a tea. The

1416
01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:46.159
<v Speaker 2>sound that you that you're hearing is Drake Baldwin pulling

1417
01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:47.119
<v Speaker 2>into the parking lot.

1418
01:21:47.520 --> 01:21:50.439
<v Speaker 1>Wow. So Drake Baldwin does not have a driver. That's

1419
01:21:50.439 --> 01:21:53.279
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying. He's not He's not special enough to

1420
01:21:53.279 --> 01:22:01.680
<v Speaker 1>have a driver. That's very true. I think I agree

1421
01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:04.600
<v Speaker 1>with it, and I think Sean Murphy it's it's time

1422
01:22:04.720 --> 01:22:07.319
<v Speaker 1>to step it up because what he did last season

1423
01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:08.000
<v Speaker 1>was not good.

1424
01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:13.239
<v Speaker 2>No, it wasn't, and I don't I don't believe he's

1425
01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:20.079
<v Speaker 2>going to I think Drake Baldwin could be the number

1426
01:22:20.079 --> 01:22:24.199
<v Speaker 2>one catcher in Atlanta heading into twenty twenty six, if

1427
01:22:24.239 --> 01:22:24.800
<v Speaker 2>not sooner.

1428
01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like he should be one of my catchers. Then

1429
01:22:27.279 --> 01:22:31.199
<v Speaker 1>that I that I grab So, so let's see Sean. Yeah,

1430
01:22:31.560 --> 01:22:34.479
<v Speaker 1>let's see Sean Murphy. What am I looking at here?

1431
01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:40.439
<v Speaker 1>It's good behind the plate. Yeah, walks a lot, good

1432
01:22:40.520 --> 01:22:47.279
<v Speaker 1>bad speed. Why isn't he why is he producing tend

1433
01:22:47.279 --> 01:22:49.720
<v Speaker 1>home runs last season? Come on, what's what's up with that?

1434
01:22:50.439 --> 01:22:53.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, it's not obvious what's going on.

1435
01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:59.600
<v Speaker 2>But okay, yeah, what is obvious is that the NFBC.

1436
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:01.520
<v Speaker 2>For me, we're pretty much in agreement.

1437
01:23:01.920 --> 01:23:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, for sure. Slid Coming to number twenty

1438
01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:10.119
<v Speaker 1>one is let's take a break here. Just yeah, let's

1439
01:23:10.119 --> 01:23:12.520
<v Speaker 1>take a quick break and we're gonna do the next

1440
01:23:12.600 --> 01:23:15.960
<v Speaker 1>ten and then we'll start to wrap it up. Okay,

1441
01:23:16.119 --> 01:23:27.199
<v Speaker 1>sounds good. Number twenty one is Bow Nailor, then Patrick Bailey,

1442
01:23:27.239 --> 01:23:32.000
<v Speaker 1>then Hunter Goodman, Joey Bart, Danny Janssen, Lewis Compensano, who

1443
01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:35.279
<v Speaker 1>broke my heart last year, Corey Lee. Tim loves himself

1444
01:23:35.319 --> 01:23:37.039
<v Speaker 1>from Corey Lee, so to ask him about that? Many

1445
01:23:37.079 --> 01:23:41.479
<v Speaker 1>Indie Rodriguez coming in at twenty eight, Travis Darnault and

1446
01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:46.199
<v Speaker 1>Alejandra Kirk. Tim hates Alejandra Kirk and I get it.

1447
01:23:46.199 --> 01:23:48.680
<v Speaker 1>It's down nine from where he's going in the NFBC.

1448
01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Let's where do we start here? Joey Bart, you're not

1449
01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:52.920
<v Speaker 1>a believer.

1450
01:23:54.199 --> 01:24:00.640
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I'm not. He strikes out too much. Yeah. Yeah,

1451
01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:02.640
<v Speaker 2>he's going to hit twenty home runs if he plays

1452
01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:05.880
<v Speaker 2>as the number one catcher. But he's struck out seventy

1453
01:24:05.920 --> 01:24:09.319
<v Speaker 2>three times in two hundred and fifty three at bats. Yeah.

1454
01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Last year he posted a two sixty five batting average.

1455
01:24:12.079 --> 01:24:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll take the under on that two sixty five. Heading

1456
01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:20.000
<v Speaker 2>into twenty twenty five, I think we could see Mendoza

1457
01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:21.920
<v Speaker 2>lign type batting average there.

1458
01:24:23.119 --> 01:24:27.079
<v Speaker 1>You could. It's actually good to see that he might

1459
01:24:27.119 --> 01:24:32.079
<v Speaker 1>have a career though, because yes it is. Yeah, but yeah,

1460
01:24:32.119 --> 01:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's power there, but the batting average, I'm

1461
01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:39.039
<v Speaker 1>not sure bow Nailor I was dead wrong on him.

1462
01:24:39.720 --> 01:24:42.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean he just when he got to the major

1463
01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:44.359
<v Speaker 1>leagues that the game was too fast for him. Tommy

1464
01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:49.359
<v Speaker 1>and the speed disappeared. The athleticism has gone gone away.

1465
01:24:49.760 --> 01:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe that now Josh Naylor is no

1466
01:24:52.880 --> 01:24:56.439
<v Speaker 1>longer in Cleveland, maybe bow Naylor will explode. I don't

1467
01:24:56.479 --> 01:25:00.319
<v Speaker 1>know what are your thinking? What's your thinking here?

1468
01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:02.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty much the same as yours. I think what

1469
01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:05.239
<v Speaker 2>we have is a situation where twenty twenty five could

1470
01:25:05.279 --> 01:25:07.439
<v Speaker 2>prove to be a defining year for Naylor. I think

1471
01:25:07.479 --> 01:25:11.319
<v Speaker 2>he's still young enough that we can potentially see what

1472
01:25:11.359 --> 01:25:14.119
<v Speaker 2>we thought we would. But it's got to be. It's

1473
01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:16.680
<v Speaker 2>got to be this year. It's time. Who's either got

1474
01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:20.079
<v Speaker 2>to step it up or he's going to be you

1475
01:25:20.119 --> 01:25:23.520
<v Speaker 2>know that catcher you grab in twenty team leagues as

1476
01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:25.960
<v Speaker 2>your number two Austin Hedges Like.

1477
01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Wow, wow, that's like as particularly defensively. Let's see. Uh

1478
01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:35.640
<v Speaker 1>he's with the Guardians. Who's who's chomping at the bit

1479
01:25:35.720 --> 01:25:41.680
<v Speaker 1>there for the Guardians? Who's the number two catcher Austin Hedges?

1480
01:25:42.439 --> 01:25:44.880
<v Speaker 2>See I thought they did something with Hedges.

1481
01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Austin Hedges hit one fifty two last year. That

1482
01:25:49.640 --> 01:25:51.439
<v Speaker 1>was only one hundred and forty six played appearances. But

1483
01:25:51.479 --> 01:25:54.079
<v Speaker 1>he's he is a definition of a second catcher.

1484
01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's the old school defensive catcher. Yes, that's awesome.

1485
01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:01.279
<v Speaker 2>That's who Austin had you.

1486
01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Some bow nail or. They've given the job the bow nailer.

1487
01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:07.720
<v Speaker 1>It's yours. Make it happen. That's what they've said to him.

1488
01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is what they have said. And he's got

1489
01:26:11.039 --> 01:26:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to take the bull by the horns and get her done.

1490
01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:17.039
<v Speaker 1>You heard it from the great Tim McCloud. Get her done,

1491
01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Get her done compensan and you like him a little

1492
01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>bit more than the NFBC. What's see what timbro compissant?

1493
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:28.279
<v Speaker 1>A second half struggles resulted in the motion. Yes he did, Yes,

1494
01:26:28.680 --> 01:26:30.880
<v Speaker 1>but he enters twenty twenty five. Is the number one

1495
01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:33.680
<v Speaker 1>catcher for the Padres as a late number two pick.

1496
01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:37.680
<v Speaker 1>The potential to perform his late round draft slot is intriguing.

1497
01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Why he stuck the second half?

1498
01:26:42.640 --> 01:26:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but is his career going to be defined by

1499
01:26:45.319 --> 01:26:48.199
<v Speaker 2>the first half or the second half? How much potential

1500
01:26:48.279 --> 01:26:52.159
<v Speaker 2>is there? What could we see with Cap and Santa? Uh? Yeah?

1501
01:26:52.239 --> 01:26:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I Hey, obviously the Podrey still believe because they didn't

1502
01:26:56.119 --> 01:26:59.640
<v Speaker 2>go out and get anybody. Okay, he's going to get

1503
01:26:59.640 --> 01:27:03.720
<v Speaker 2>the offer tunity And if you look at Campnsana's overall

1504
01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:09.680
<v Speaker 2>numbers last year, okay, they're not that bad considering in

1505
01:27:09.720 --> 01:27:14.159
<v Speaker 2>the second half he basically when he did show up,

1506
01:27:14.239 --> 01:27:16.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe it wasn't good. Wasn't it.

1507
01:27:18.399 --> 01:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't good? He makes great contact. You know where he's bad.

1508
01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Look at his defensive skills behind the plate, six percentile

1509
01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>on blocks above average, second percent tient, framing pop times

1510
01:27:30.840 --> 01:27:33.880
<v Speaker 1>thirty eight percentime. He's a terrible defensive catcher.

1511
01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, He's twenty six last year, eight homers and forty

1512
01:27:38.680 --> 01:27:43.479
<v Speaker 2>rbpis okay, well, and that's considering he didn't play basically

1513
01:27:43.479 --> 01:27:45.399
<v Speaker 2>from the beginning of augusta on and he was in

1514
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:47.920
<v Speaker 2>the minors the second week of September.

1515
01:27:48.640 --> 01:27:48.760
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

1516
01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:52.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm just intrigued by the fact that I think you

1517
01:27:52.119 --> 01:27:56.800
<v Speaker 2>could have a yeah, twelve home run, fifty to fifty

1518
01:27:56.840 --> 01:28:01.359
<v Speaker 2>five RBI catcher as a number two that works. I'm

1519
01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:04.079
<v Speaker 2>not ready to give up the ghosts yet. On Luis Caffasana.

1520
01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, doesn't hit the ball all that hard,

1521
01:28:07.399 --> 01:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>but it could be ten. I mean, two hundred and

1522
01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:13.880
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven at bats with eight home runs give them

1523
01:28:13.920 --> 01:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>another eighty. You should be able to hit twelve something

1524
01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:22.600
<v Speaker 1>like that. Ten to twelve. That's about what the data suggest.

1525
01:28:22.039 --> 01:28:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Which could put him up in the Connor Wong, bow Naylor,

1526
01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Bailey and that group of catchers.

1527
01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Right, he has expected batting averages two forty two, so

1528
01:28:31.359 --> 01:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>there's some there's fifteen points higher than what his regular

1529
01:28:34.720 --> 01:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>what his traditional batting average was. But yeah, okay, that's

1530
01:28:40.640 --> 01:28:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Lewis compack.

1531
01:28:41.840 --> 01:28:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Hunter Goodman intrigues me.

1532
01:28:44.119 --> 01:28:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Where's Hunter Goodman? Did did I mention.

1533
01:28:46.119 --> 01:28:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Him a couple of spots.

1534
01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, there he is, Yeah, there's Hunter Colorado.

1535
01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, Hey, he's going to swing and miss a ton,

1536
01:28:54.560 --> 01:28:57.279
<v Speaker 2>but when he hits it, it goes a long way.

1537
01:28:57.560 --> 01:29:00.000
<v Speaker 2>You want to toss a dart at twenty five home runs?

1538
01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:02.239
<v Speaker 2>If they toss it in his direction, I think he

1539
01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:02.760
<v Speaker 2>can do it.

1540
01:29:03.640 --> 01:29:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wanted to look at one of the things

1541
01:29:05.399 --> 01:29:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I was looking. I put the last year's ADP, not

1542
01:29:08.359 --> 01:29:10.279
<v Speaker 1>rank I should have put I guess I should have

1543
01:29:10.279 --> 01:29:14.199
<v Speaker 1>put rank, but I put ADP. Do I like ADP?

1544
01:29:14.359 --> 01:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Or should we have ranked there? What would you rather

1545
01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:22.119
<v Speaker 1>want to know? Where they ranked? Where they went in drafts?

1546
01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Your rank?

1547
01:29:25.720 --> 01:29:27.880
<v Speaker 2>H I like the format as it is.

1548
01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the guys that really have popped up is

1549
01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>on your yan your dias up fifty splots. Logan of

1550
01:29:37.960 --> 01:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Hoppy wasn't because he was hurt last year, so he

1551
01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:44.319
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even ranked. Shane Shane lang Lears is up one

1552
01:29:44.359 --> 01:29:51.199
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty slots. JT No, Shane lang Lears is

1553
01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>down one hundred and twenty size. I'm sorry he he

1554
01:29:55.079 --> 01:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>fell huge last year. Huh you see that? I'm sorry,

1555
01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sorry he's up He's one twenty three this year.

1556
01:30:07.000 --> 01:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Last year was two sixty three. This year Jasamozo was

1557
01:30:11.520 --> 01:30:14.119
<v Speaker 1>was one thirty two last year seventy three. So he's

1558
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>definitely dropped. Yeah, so interesting to see where some of

1559
01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>these guys went last year. All right, let's let's just

1560
01:30:21.880 --> 01:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>bop around, Okay. No love for Alejandra Kirk. I get that.

1561
01:30:28.159 --> 01:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Anybody from thirty one through fifty that you want to

1562
01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>bring to our attention, maybe Carter Jensen.

1563
01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Carter Jensen would be one, Drake Baldwin would be another,

1564
01:30:39.560 --> 01:30:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Augustin Ramirez would be another, and Kyle Teal all the kids,

1565
01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:52.279
<v Speaker 2>there's some kids in there. Yeah, Adulton rushing, Uh, I

1566
01:30:52.279 --> 01:30:54.439
<v Speaker 2>should have dropped him. I should have dropped him further

1567
01:30:54.479 --> 01:30:55.000
<v Speaker 2>than they did.

1568
01:30:56.279 --> 01:30:57.079
<v Speaker 1>It's tough to him.

1569
01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm not a big fan of gl Amya

1570
01:31:00.760 --> 01:31:06.319
<v Speaker 2>either in Chicago with the Cubs. But again, I think

1571
01:31:06.319 --> 01:31:10.600
<v Speaker 2>it's the kids. Teal is close, Ramirez is close in Miami,

1572
01:31:11.079 --> 01:31:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Baldwin is close. Moving further down. Carter Jensen, I think

1573
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I have him at at fifty. I don't think he's.

1574
01:31:18.960 --> 01:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>As my guy is. Moys's Ballastero's That's who I'm very

1575
01:31:23.680 --> 01:31:25.399
<v Speaker 1>intrigued about coming into this season.

1576
01:31:26.279 --> 01:31:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I moved him down a little bit. I

1577
01:31:28.920 --> 01:31:32.079
<v Speaker 2>had him in my first goal round. I actually had

1578
01:31:32.159 --> 01:31:38.479
<v Speaker 2>him up in the thirties. But with what I'm seeing

1579
01:31:38.640 --> 01:31:43.800
<v Speaker 2>coming out of Chicago and the Cubs, I don't know,

1580
01:31:44.279 --> 01:31:47.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, Originally I was looking at Miguel Amaya right

1581
01:31:47.880 --> 01:31:51.960
<v Speaker 2>as being the catcher or but why did they bring

1582
01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:56.279
<v Speaker 2>in Carson Kelly. Maybe I'm overthinking this one, but bringing

1583
01:31:56.279 --> 01:32:00.399
<v Speaker 2>in Carson Kelly on a short term deal to me

1584
01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:03.800
<v Speaker 2>that maybe they're not as high on not that they're

1585
01:32:03.840 --> 01:32:06.159
<v Speaker 2>not as high, they just want to give him another

1586
01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:08.319
<v Speaker 2>year in the minors. So that's why I moved out.

1587
01:32:08.479 --> 01:32:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's fair because he is very, very young,

1588
01:32:11.159 --> 01:32:13.640
<v Speaker 1>but he ate it up the Triple A last season

1589
01:32:13.920 --> 01:32:17.119
<v Speaker 1>and was one of the best performers in all of

1590
01:32:17.119 --> 01:32:20.399
<v Speaker 1>the minor leagues last year. So played in the Fall League.

1591
01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Didn't do great.

1592
01:32:22.560 --> 01:32:24.039
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think he did all that great, but I

1593
01:32:24.039 --> 01:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>mean he looked good.

1594
01:32:25.199 --> 01:32:27.159
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah he looked good.

1595
01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but you know, I think maybe he was

1596
01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:33.399
<v Speaker 1>a little tired. But Carson Kelly is your back up

1597
01:32:33.560 --> 01:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to mgl Amaya. If you don't believe in migl Amaya.

1598
01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Is there much of a distance between Carson, Kelly and

1599
01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:42.239
<v Speaker 1>the Miglamya.

1600
01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Probably not except for the opportunity factor. They didn't bring

1601
01:32:46.760 --> 01:32:49.479
<v Speaker 2>him in. They're not, They're they're paying him something to

1602
01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:54.720
<v Speaker 2>be there, right, So that pushes I think bias Tero's

1603
01:32:54.760 --> 01:32:57.479
<v Speaker 2>down a little bit, which is basically the way I

1604
01:32:57.520 --> 01:33:01.479
<v Speaker 2>think I have them ranked, Yeah, thirty six and Kelly

1605
01:33:01.520 --> 01:33:04.199
<v Speaker 2>at forty four and Bias Stereos at forty eight.

1606
01:33:05.680 --> 01:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>David Fry was very good last season, but as you report,

1607
01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:12.359
<v Speaker 1>he's not expected till mid mid season Tommy John surgery.

1608
01:33:12.399 --> 01:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>That's that's really disappointing because I think it would have

1609
01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>gone a lot higher if not.

1610
01:33:18.399 --> 01:33:21.039
<v Speaker 2>I think so as well. And I think that's you know,

1611
01:33:21.119 --> 01:33:24.439
<v Speaker 2>the NFBC folk have him at thirty four, Well, you're

1612
01:33:24.479 --> 01:33:26.279
<v Speaker 2>only going to get half a season. I moved him

1613
01:33:26.279 --> 01:33:29.000
<v Speaker 2>to forty seven. But again, if you if you have

1614
01:33:29.079 --> 01:33:33.239
<v Speaker 2>an IL, which the NFBC doesn't, if you have an

1615
01:33:33.279 --> 01:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>IL in your league, gay move Fry up a little bit.

1616
01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Hit him up in your mind, as you know, you

1617
01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:39.640
<v Speaker 2>can move them to your IL and away you go

1618
01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:41.520
<v Speaker 2>right sit on him for sitting on him for a

1619
01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:42.119
<v Speaker 2>few months.

1620
01:33:43.039 --> 01:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk pirates. We talked about Joey bart a little

1621
01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:51.279
<v Speaker 1>bit sitting behind Joey bart Is, Jason Delay and then

1622
01:33:51.439 --> 01:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>coming back as Indian Rodriguez and then Henry Davis. First

1623
01:33:55.720 --> 01:34:00.439
<v Speaker 1>of all, first question is is Henry Davis having career

1624
01:34:01.479 --> 01:34:04.479
<v Speaker 1>in Pittsburgh.

1625
01:34:04.760 --> 01:34:08.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I really don't know, but I'm not

1626
01:34:08.199 --> 01:34:09.239
<v Speaker 2>going to pay to find out.

1627
01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Does Indy Rodriguez spend considerable time in Pittsburgh this year?

1628
01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I believe so? Yes, so I who really liked what

1629
01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Rodriguez did in you know, his age twenty two and

1630
01:34:24.319 --> 01:34:29.159
<v Speaker 2>twenty three seasons. Okay, he's supposedly going to be healthy.

1631
01:34:30.279 --> 01:34:34.359
<v Speaker 2>I could see very quickly Indy Rodriguez being the number

1632
01:34:34.359 --> 01:34:36.880
<v Speaker 2>one catcher in Pittsburgh.

1633
01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Enjoyed Bart's demoted or Jason Delay is what do you

1634
01:34:40.800 --> 01:34:41.720
<v Speaker 1>think happens there?

1635
01:34:42.600 --> 01:34:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I think I think a job share between Rodriguez and Barton.

1636
01:34:46.720 --> 01:34:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Eventually Bart's free swinging high strikeout ways. Then you're looking

1637
01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:55.479
<v Speaker 2>at the other two guys moving into a backup situation

1638
01:34:55.600 --> 01:34:57.720
<v Speaker 2>to Andy Rodrigue's a lot of moving parts and a

1639
01:34:57.720 --> 01:35:01.520
<v Speaker 2>lot of will depend on how Indy Rodriguez plays this spring,

1640
01:35:01.880 --> 01:35:04.720
<v Speaker 2>but I think that's one possible scenario that could they could.

1641
01:35:05.880 --> 01:35:08.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's coming back from Tommy John. So I

1642
01:35:08.359 --> 01:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>believe it's Davy John, right, So, but Henry Davis is

1643
01:35:11.600 --> 01:35:14.319
<v Speaker 1>the one that's that's a little disconcerting. I mean, if

1644
01:35:14.359 --> 01:35:17.239
<v Speaker 1>you're a Dynas league ownered half Henry Davis, I mean,

1645
01:35:17.239 --> 01:35:21.119
<v Speaker 1>he's he's getting buried on this step chart again, buried,

1646
01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:23.720
<v Speaker 1>not not with Will Smith in front of him, but

1647
01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:24.600
<v Speaker 1>still buried.

1648
01:35:25.680 --> 01:35:32.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, that's that's I I know where to brag

1649
01:35:32.560 --> 01:35:37.359
<v Speaker 2>about some of the trades we've made, but I treated

1650
01:35:37.399 --> 01:35:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Henry Davis straight up for Brent ran Doyle. I'm rather

1651
01:35:43.279 --> 01:35:44.359
<v Speaker 2>happy with that deal.

1652
01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:47.039
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Well that's really good. Good for you.

1653
01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I got lucky at the right time.

1654
01:35:51.119 --> 01:35:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Right. Well, that's that's what it's all about. Tell me

1655
01:35:53.840 --> 01:35:56.199
<v Speaker 1>sake a final break, come back, and let's wrap up catcher.

1656
01:35:56.920 --> 01:35:58.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, sounds good.

1657
01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:10.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, Tim, I got the hard questions now, Okay,

1658
01:36:11.319 --> 01:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>which player not in the top ten has a chance

1659
01:36:13.640 --> 01:36:21.840
<v Speaker 1>to emerge there? This? Uh this after the after the season. Oh,

1660
01:36:22.159 --> 01:36:23.319
<v Speaker 1>don't give me number eleven.

1661
01:36:24.399 --> 01:36:26.960
<v Speaker 2>No, I no, I'm not. I'm not gonna do that.

1662
01:36:27.159 --> 01:36:29.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna do something a little a

1663
01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:30.399
<v Speaker 2>little bolder.

1664
01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:31.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm twelve.

1665
01:36:32.760 --> 01:36:38.319
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm hell, you know me so well, don't you.

1666
01:36:39.960 --> 01:36:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with Austin Walls.

1667
01:36:42.840 --> 01:36:47.399
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Really yeah?

1668
01:36:47.720 --> 01:36:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I think I think if he can get the home

1669
01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:53.680
<v Speaker 2>run totals up into the twenty range, I could see

1670
01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:58.800
<v Speaker 2>him hitting seventy seventy five, are we? I like Austin

1671
01:36:58.840 --> 01:37:01.279
<v Speaker 2>Walls a lot. I think he could make a significant

1672
01:37:01.319 --> 01:37:02.880
<v Speaker 2>move up this year. I think this will be the

1673
01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:03.720
<v Speaker 2>year that he does it.

1674
01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:08.319
<v Speaker 1>If he does, oh that's that's impressive. Next question for

1675
01:37:08.399 --> 01:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you is which top ten player will not be there

1676
01:37:11.920 --> 01:37:12.479
<v Speaker 1>next season?

1677
01:37:13.439 --> 01:37:16.439
<v Speaker 2>Okay, now this is where you get the tim you expected.

1678
01:37:16.600 --> 01:37:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with Wilson Conturers.

1679
01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, give me another one.

1680
01:37:26.199 --> 01:37:27.960
<v Speaker 2>And I got the answer I expected.

1681
01:37:32.840 --> 01:37:35.159
<v Speaker 1>Can be a surprising one.

1682
01:37:35.720 --> 01:37:39.720
<v Speaker 2>A surprising one, cal rally.

1683
01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:41.479
<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

1684
01:37:43.159 --> 01:37:45.560
<v Speaker 2>What happens if he bats one ninety and his home

1685
01:37:45.640 --> 01:37:48.920
<v Speaker 2>runs fall off to twenty you know, twenty home run

1686
01:37:49.039 --> 01:37:51.720
<v Speaker 2>sixty RBIs that gets some other the top ten in

1687
01:37:51.760 --> 01:37:52.600
<v Speaker 2>a hurry, doesn't it?

1688
01:37:53.159 --> 01:37:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one year it's going to be sal Perez. I

1689
01:37:56.279 --> 01:37:58.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's twenty twenty five, but one year

1690
01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:02.039
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be sal Perez. It's gonna the time

1691
01:38:02.119 --> 01:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>is going to catch up to him.

1692
01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's got what ten consecutive seasons twenty or more

1693
01:38:07.840 --> 01:38:09.960
<v Speaker 2>home runs. Yeah, at some point in time it's it's

1694
01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.840
<v Speaker 2>all going to it's all going to come crashing. But

1695
01:38:12.960 --> 01:38:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I think he's got another twenty low twenty, mid load

1696
01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:20.239
<v Speaker 2>to mid twenty home home runs eighty to one hundred

1697
01:38:20.359 --> 01:38:22.920
<v Speaker 2>or hey, Elson, you got that Bobby Whit guy in

1698
01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:24.840
<v Speaker 2>front of end the order, doesn't it?

1699
01:38:24.840 --> 01:38:27.439
<v Speaker 1>It sure does. But I mean he turns twenty thirty

1700
01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>five in May.

1701
01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Yep, Catcher, I'm gonna Catcher's age better than second basement.

1702
01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:36.319
<v Speaker 2>There's ateresting question.

1703
01:38:37.039 --> 01:38:42.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. They probably don't. Salperez might be an exception.

1704
01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:48.079
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and again, Salperez, I think will start uh

1705
01:38:48.520 --> 01:38:51.760
<v Speaker 2>seeing more and more time despite his defensive pros. I

1706
01:38:51.800 --> 01:38:54.199
<v Speaker 2>think he'll see more time at first base moving forward,

1707
01:38:54.319 --> 01:38:56.520
<v Speaker 2>which I think bodes well for Jensen.

1708
01:38:57.479 --> 01:38:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it doesn't vode well for Vimp is a

1709
01:38:59.399 --> 01:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty good base so it's gonna be interesting to how

1710
01:39:02.720 --> 01:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>they square that square that round peg. Okay, give me

1711
01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>a couple of sleepers. I think he already did, but

1712
01:39:09.600 --> 01:39:10.720
<v Speaker 1>why don't you reiterate them?

1713
01:39:11.479 --> 01:39:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a couple of sleepers when you when you start

1714
01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>looking at round fourteen to sixteen, I got a man

1715
01:39:20.079 --> 01:39:22.520
<v Speaker 2>crush on caber Ruiz I have for a long time.

1716
01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not ready to give it up. Ruiz would be

1717
01:39:25.319 --> 01:39:28.239
<v Speaker 2>one that I think could outperform his current two O

1718
01:39:28.439 --> 01:39:34.039
<v Speaker 2>seven adp Ivan Herrera is very very interesting. Okay, moving

1719
01:39:34.119 --> 01:39:39.239
<v Speaker 2>into the full time role in Saint Louis. But again,

1720
01:39:39.359 --> 01:39:42.600
<v Speaker 2>if I'm looking at focusing on the catchers and the

1721
01:39:42.680 --> 01:39:47.000
<v Speaker 2>big upside, there are so many kids chomping at the bit.

1722
01:39:47.239 --> 01:39:52.439
<v Speaker 2>Pick one, you know, Baldwin. Yeah, I'd say rushing, but

1723
01:39:52.600 --> 01:39:59.239
<v Speaker 2>in la Hey, rushing gets traded. Yeah, Augustin Ramirez, Kyle Teel, Okay,

1724
01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>go down, Biasteros Okay, Hey, Sam Vassello Okay, he's sitting

1725
01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:08.520
<v Speaker 2>there at fifty two right now.

1726
01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so now you're just named naming names. I want

1727
01:40:10.640 --> 01:40:12.600
<v Speaker 1>to give me your top two.

1728
01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Guys, Cabert Ruiz and Drake Baldwin.

1729
01:40:16.680 --> 01:40:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you heard it from the great Tim McCloud.

1730
01:40:20.279 --> 01:40:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I saved it to everybody, everybody else.

1731
01:40:23.439 --> 01:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>And and my thirty first sleeper is.

1732
01:40:28.399 --> 01:40:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you.

1733
01:40:31.039 --> 01:40:32.760
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm here for, Tommy. I am the host,

1734
01:40:32.880 --> 01:40:35.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the hostess with the most is So yes, yes,

1735
01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:38.159
<v Speaker 1>are you avoiding drafting anybody?

1736
01:40:39.520 --> 01:40:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I when I when I look at this list,

1737
01:40:42.800 --> 01:40:45.920
<v Speaker 2>there's there's a couple of players that I am definitely

1738
01:40:46.920 --> 01:40:53.159
<v Speaker 2>definitely avoiding drafting. One would be JG. Real Muto unless

1739
01:40:53.760 --> 01:41:00.000
<v Speaker 2>by some chance he significantly falls. Okay. Uh, Sean murrh

1740
01:41:00.239 --> 01:41:02.159
<v Speaker 2>would be another one. I'm not going to touch him

1741
01:41:02.199 --> 01:41:06.880
<v Speaker 2>with a ten foot pole. And if you see Alejandra

1742
01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Kirk on any of my team's rich call nine one one,

1743
01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:14.199
<v Speaker 2>I've been kidnapped and I'm held for ransom. Okay, Yeah, it's.

1744
01:41:14.279 --> 01:41:17.039
<v Speaker 1>It's a shame because, uh, when I did my when

1745
01:41:17.079 --> 01:41:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I wrote my algorithms, he actually scored pretty high. And

1746
01:41:20.960 --> 01:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I had to look to a couple other things just

1747
01:41:22.840 --> 01:41:24.479
<v Speaker 1>to say the power is probably not really like I

1748
01:41:24.520 --> 01:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>can hit for sure, and he's a good defender.

1749
01:41:27.359 --> 01:41:31.840
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I watch almost all the Jay's games, okay,

1750
01:41:32.039 --> 01:41:35.439
<v Speaker 2>and it irritates me to know when to see him

1751
01:41:35.479 --> 01:41:41.239
<v Speaker 2>turning doubles into singles. It's I it just does you know,

1752
01:41:41.359 --> 01:41:44.039
<v Speaker 2>I think I think the hit tool is great, but

1753
01:41:44.279 --> 01:41:46.399
<v Speaker 2>I just think he's so badly out of shape.

1754
01:41:47.399 --> 01:41:50.960
<v Speaker 1>No, I just no, no, no, no air conditioning matters.

1755
01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:51.479
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1756
01:41:51.600 --> 01:41:54.239
<v Speaker 1>The one guy that I mean, maybe this is this

1757
01:41:54.439 --> 01:41:58.439
<v Speaker 1>is blasphemy. The guy that worries me is Adlie Rutchman.

1758
01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:01.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean I gonna pick I have to spend a

1759
01:42:01.079 --> 01:42:03.760
<v Speaker 1>fifth round pick on him. And I don't have an

1760
01:42:03.800 --> 01:42:06.800
<v Speaker 1>answer as to what happened in the second second half,

1761
01:42:06.880 --> 01:42:07.880
<v Speaker 1>and that bothers me.

1762
01:42:09.399 --> 01:42:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I I personally think he was tired.

1763
01:42:13.720 --> 01:42:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Well tell me you can get more sleep. I mean

1764
01:42:15.760 --> 01:42:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the answer is.

1765
01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you don't have an answer, right.

1766
01:42:21.920 --> 01:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Quite frankly, getting tired is not an answer. I mean

1767
01:42:24.960 --> 01:42:26.880
<v Speaker 1>that might be an answer, it's not a good answer.

1768
01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:30.720
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I when you look what you did the

1769
01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:33.760
<v Speaker 2>first half? Okay, what changing the second? I guess we

1770
01:42:33.880 --> 01:42:38.359
<v Speaker 2>have to you know, maybe that's that's something you can

1771
01:42:38.399 --> 01:42:39.479
<v Speaker 2>address him one year.

1772
01:42:39.960 --> 01:42:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, put it on me. That takes takes some research.

1773
01:42:45.199 --> 01:42:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Try to figure out exactly what happened, all right, all right,

1774
01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>big Sean, I'll try to figure out what happened.

1775
01:42:50.319 --> 01:42:52.319
<v Speaker 2>But you know, when you go from sixteen fifty nine,

1776
01:42:52.399 --> 01:42:56.239
<v Speaker 2>two seventy five to three twenty two oh seven, was

1777
01:42:56.279 --> 01:42:57.359
<v Speaker 2>he hurt? Was?

1778
01:42:57.479 --> 01:42:57.680
<v Speaker 1>You know?

1779
01:42:57.960 --> 01:43:01.319
<v Speaker 2>I just think he's too talented, you know, Am I

1780
01:43:01.399 --> 01:43:02.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna project his second half?

1781
01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1782
01:43:03.039 --> 01:43:06.119
<v Speaker 2>I think he could be a six forty two ten type.

1783
01:43:06.319 --> 01:43:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I can't do it. I just can't. I don't know

1784
01:43:08.960 --> 01:43:11.880
<v Speaker 2>what happened, but I don't think we'll see a repeat

1785
01:43:11.960 --> 01:43:12.119
<v Speaker 2>of it.

1786
01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, here here's I'm gonna add something else to it. Okay, Well,

1787
01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the one thing that's always bugged me with his profile,

1788
01:43:20.279 --> 01:43:23.720
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't hit the ball hard. He never has. He's

1789
01:43:23.760 --> 01:43:27.720
<v Speaker 1>got thirteenth percentile on batspeed, twenty ninth percent on average

1790
01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:31.159
<v Speaker 1>excevellasi just like I forgot that we were talking about. Uh,

1791
01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:33.840
<v Speaker 1>it's got this incredible square op ate.

1792
01:43:34.319 --> 01:43:35.119
<v Speaker 2>That just here.

1793
01:43:35.560 --> 01:43:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh HOPI gets this. He's the ability to kind of

1794
01:43:39.720 --> 01:43:42.560
<v Speaker 1>control the bat and make it happen and give me

1795
01:43:42.680 --> 01:43:45.439
<v Speaker 1>the guy like William Contrere's that just hits the ball

1796
01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:50.680
<v Speaker 1>really hard. That to me is sustainable power that you

1797
01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:53.880
<v Speaker 1>can project that power. The guy that's getting it because

1798
01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:56.600
<v Speaker 1>he's got a really good swing and really good eye

1799
01:43:56.640 --> 01:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>hand coordination. That gets off a little bit, you might

1800
01:44:00.319 --> 01:44:02.560
<v Speaker 1>have you might have the answer why his second half

1801
01:44:02.680 --> 01:44:06.720
<v Speaker 1>went went south like it did. That's what bothers me

1802
01:44:06.760 --> 01:44:07.800
<v Speaker 1>about Adlie Rutchman.

1803
01:44:08.600 --> 01:44:13.119
<v Speaker 2>And it's fair. I don't have any problems with those concerns.

1804
01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I just think there's too much talent there to repeat

1805
01:44:18.039 --> 01:44:19.680
<v Speaker 2>that second half and maybe I'm wrong.

1806
01:44:20.119 --> 01:44:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, the talent is there because you see it. You

1807
01:44:22.039 --> 01:44:24.159
<v Speaker 1>see it in a square up rate eighty seven percentile

1808
01:44:24.680 --> 01:44:27.319
<v Speaker 1>means that he's he can hit the ball and get

1809
01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:30.359
<v Speaker 1>the maximum leverage out of the batsman that he is.

1810
01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:34.359
<v Speaker 1>That is definitely skill and talent. Is it repeatable long term?

1811
01:44:34.680 --> 01:44:37.359
<v Speaker 1>That's what we don't know. We and Contrari's should be

1812
01:44:37.399 --> 01:44:39.920
<v Speaker 1>able to run into twenty to twenty five home runs

1813
01:44:40.159 --> 01:44:42.319
<v Speaker 1>with his eyes closed. He's got that much power.

1814
01:44:43.119 --> 01:44:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and his spot in the batting order and the

1815
01:44:46.520 --> 01:44:52.319
<v Speaker 2>supporting cast guarantee him the RBI's run scored. Yeah, the

1816
01:44:52.399 --> 01:44:54.720
<v Speaker 2>whole package falls into place very nicely, doesn't it.

1817
01:44:55.279 --> 01:44:57.600
<v Speaker 1>And Rutchman is a little bit it's more of a

1818
01:44:58.319 --> 01:45:01.399
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like a power pitch versus a finesse pitcher.

1819
01:45:01.800 --> 01:45:05.880
<v Speaker 1>William Contreras is a power hitter, Aby Richman is a

1820
01:45:06.159 --> 01:45:10.159
<v Speaker 1>finesse player. I mean he's using all kinds of other

1821
01:45:10.319 --> 01:45:14.039
<v Speaker 1>skills as opposed to just mustling through stuff. And I

1822
01:45:14.079 --> 01:45:17.039
<v Speaker 1>don't know, got me, it's gonna be a little worried there.

1823
01:45:18.520 --> 01:45:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I'm sure if you looked at the results

1824
01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:26.319
<v Speaker 2>coming out of Baltimore for him, and let's let's let's

1825
01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:28.920
<v Speaker 2>throw a top ten pick in there with him. The

1826
01:45:29.159 --> 01:45:31.600
<v Speaker 2>second half was not good the gun or was it.

1827
01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:35.079
<v Speaker 1>It was not. It was not as good. It was

1828
01:45:35.119 --> 01:45:37.760
<v Speaker 1>still it is because his first half was ridiculous.

1829
01:45:38.479 --> 01:45:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Baltimore didn't look great in the second half

1830
01:45:43.920 --> 01:45:46.840
<v Speaker 2>as a team, did they They did not. Anthony Anthony

1831
01:45:46.920 --> 01:45:49.479
<v Speaker 2>Centander is the one that powered them to They're finished pretty.

1832
01:45:49.279 --> 01:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, totally. I totally agree with you. But I mean,

1833
01:45:52.039 --> 01:45:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Gunner Henderson, man, it all looked really, really good. So yeah,

1834
01:45:56.359 --> 01:45:57.960
<v Speaker 1>so let's take a look at let's take a look

1835
01:45:58.000 --> 01:46:03.560
<v Speaker 1>at his splits here. Yeah, to eighty six, two seventy three,

1836
01:46:03.800 --> 01:46:06.520
<v Speaker 1>not bad. It's the power that he lost twenty eight

1837
01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:09.359
<v Speaker 1>to nine, so the power kind of went around.

1838
01:46:09.479 --> 01:46:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's huge.

1839
01:46:11.319 --> 01:46:13.600
<v Speaker 1>But he hits the ball really hard. I'm not sure

1840
01:46:13.640 --> 01:46:14.880
<v Speaker 1>exactly what happened there.

1841
01:46:14.840 --> 01:46:18.119
<v Speaker 2>But uh, I'm believing blaming on the wall and they're

1842
01:46:18.119 --> 01:46:19.359
<v Speaker 2>fixing it this year, right now.

1843
01:46:19.560 --> 01:46:23.560
<v Speaker 1>That's true. You know again, I talked about me kind

1844
01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:26.279
<v Speaker 1>of out smarting myself. Sometimes you wonder if the Orioles

1845
01:46:26.760 --> 01:46:29.319
<v Speaker 1>are out smarting themselves. I mean, they're clearly a smart

1846
01:46:29.439 --> 01:46:32.279
<v Speaker 1>organization and really know what they're doing. But sometimes you

1847
01:46:32.359 --> 01:46:33.159
<v Speaker 1>can get too clever.

1848
01:46:34.159 --> 01:46:38.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, they need a picture, Yeah, go get one, Go

1849
01:46:38.479 --> 01:46:43.039
<v Speaker 2>get one. Yeah, seems rather simple to me. But then again, hey,

1850
01:46:43.640 --> 01:46:46.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm living in a hundred in the host at minus

1851
01:46:46.439 --> 01:46:50.199
<v Speaker 2>twenty five today one hundred nowhere, So who's smart.

1852
01:46:52.760 --> 01:46:54.920
<v Speaker 1>That's a fair point. Let's give you a insight on.

1853
01:46:55.239 --> 01:46:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Tell me what's what's for dinner? Good good, first of all,

1854
01:46:57.399 --> 01:46:59.920
<v Speaker 1>good show, great stuff on the catch if you got

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<v Speaker 1>like this, first base I believe is next week and

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<v Speaker 1>then the other ones will fall after that. But great

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks rich. I had a lot of fun doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>even though it was long, slow and laborious.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all right, that's all right, all right, tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what's for dinner? And I gotta get you out here

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm about to lose power.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, okay. For dinner tonight, we're having a and

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<v Speaker 2>it was handcut by the butcher yesterday off of a

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<v Speaker 2>nice sirloin. The we're having uh, a stir fry with

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<v Speaker 2>the cauliflower and thinly sliced surloin.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, you're having a vegetable.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's in the dish. It doesn't mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this is not a cloud.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I actually I'm not calling you.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually okay, oh broccoli, I thought you cauliflower.

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<v Speaker 2>They're okay broccoli.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, cauliflower is not green. Cauliflower is white. Wow. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well that sounds great except for the I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>big I'm not a big friend of the broccoli. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>not a big friend of the broccoli. But we're having.

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<v Speaker 2>My first week of New Year's resolution or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been trying to eat healthy this week. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we both just just overdid it since Thanksgiving. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>but uh oh, Timmy said, I have no idea what's

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<v Speaker 1>for dinner. But last yesterday for lunch, we went up

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<v Speaker 1>to Wilmington, which is a really cool historic town and

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<v Speaker 1>we take a lot of tours and stuff up there,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we usually we went to some friends. We

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<v Speaker 1>did like an hour and a half tour of an

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<v Speaker 1>old Antebellum mansion that was fun, and then we went

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<v Speaker 1>to lunch at this place called the Copper Penny. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a normal sandwich sandwich place, like a bar

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. It was, but it was fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm looking at the menu and of course Lorie's

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<v Speaker 1>got is eating salads and I saw this something called

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<v Speaker 1>smoke tomato soup, and I go, well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that is, but it sounds great. I can eat it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had it, Timmy. I'm telling you, this soup

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<v Speaker 1>was the best soup I'd ever eaten in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>It was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>We got We enjoyed a barbecue based it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I had a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>kick to it. It had a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>smoky taste to it. I don't know how they made it,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, it didn't taste much like tomato soup to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It just it tasted great. And so we bought some

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<v Speaker 1>extra bring homes. So that's we're eating it up again tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>So in fact, I'll be back up in Wilmington tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>getting my car's service and I might stop by and

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<v Speaker 1>get some more soup. I left it that much.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's fascinating when you you're when you're traveling and

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<v Speaker 2>you and you run into I ran into in Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 2>of all places you would think barbecue steak. I ran

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<v Speaker 2>into an Italian restaurant and I can't remember what the

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<v Speaker 2>community was. I got marked down somewhere I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>back there. An Italian restaurant. They make all their own noodles,

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<v Speaker 2>all her own sauces, absolutely everything in Oklahoma, Okay, And

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<v Speaker 2>she was probably one of the best Italian meals I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever had in my life. And I just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>stumbled into the place. And sometimes these restaurants you stumbled

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<v Speaker 2>into in your travels. She can find some really really

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<v Speaker 2>excellent eateries, can't you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Far be it from me to correct the great

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<v Speaker 1>Tim McCleod. But as a resident of New Jersey for

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<v Speaker 1>the last twenty five maybe thirty years, living with Italians everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not noodles. It's pasta. Uh you call it pasta.

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<v Speaker 1>You do not call it noodles. Or Chinese restaurants have noodles.

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<v Speaker 1>Italian Italian joints have pasta. Doesn't matter if it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a noodle or not exactly. So all of our

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<v Speaker 1>New York, New Jersey friends I have, I have duly

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<v Speaker 1>corrected the great to McLeod.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I will I will file a lot away

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<v Speaker 2>for future reference, especially when I'm in New Jersey, because

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<v Speaker 2>I got skate.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go to a if you go to an

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<v Speaker 1>Italian joint, which you could throw a rock at any

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<v Speaker 1>any corner New Jersey hit an Italian Joe. It's that prevalent.

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<v Speaker 1>And you go in and ask for can I have

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<v Speaker 1>some noodles? They're gonna look at you like they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>use the f work. That's all I'm gonna say, Get

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<v Speaker 1>the f out of here. Yeah, what you say, exactly exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>timmy great stuff. My friend will be back next week

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<v Speaker 1>and Tim and I hopefully will be recording on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>the National League West Prospects, so you get to look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to that. So timmy great stuff and I'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds good. Be safe, be well, and enjoy that tomato

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<v Speaker 2>soupa