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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so what should we make at the concept of race.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of anthropologists who would say we

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<v Speaker 1>should just throw this concept away completely, there's no basis

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<v Speaker 1>for it, and those people are responding to what many

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<v Speaker 1>scholars call essentialist notions of race. There's something about this

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<v Speaker 1>particular group of people, perhaps about their anatomy or their physiology,

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<v Speaker 1>or their brains, or their genes or something like this,

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<v Speaker 1>that differentiates them from various other groups of people. If

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<v Speaker 1>there's one thing that we've learned from biological science and

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<v Speaker 1>psychological science over the last century, it's that there's an

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<v Speaker 1>enormous amount of variation within the groups that we've traditionally

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<v Speaker 1>thought of as races, far more than there is between

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<v Speaker 1>the groups we've traditionally thought of as races. Now, it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out that if you look at things from a

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<v Speaker 1>a genetic point of view, the certain kinds of molecular

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<v Speaker 1>sequences are more common in some groups than in other groups.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because during the course of human history, these groups

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<v Speaker 1>have been separated from one another, they haven't intermarried, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's given various chances for our various kinds of genetic

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<v Speaker 1>material to become prevalent in some groups. But not in others.

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<v Speaker 1>But the first thing to say about that is that

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<v Speaker 1>these differences are trivial, largely trivial. There are some cases,

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<v Speaker 1>as a well known diseases that tend to affect some

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<v Speaker 1>groups more than others. That is, that is not trivial

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<v Speaker 1>for the sufferers. But by and large, these differences are trivial. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>about fifteen years ago, a tremendously brilliant study was done

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<v Speaker 1>by researchers at Stanford that actually divided the human population

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<v Speaker 1>into groups. The even the researchers themselves called into breeding populations. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to call them racist. But very quickly

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<v Speaker 1>the popular press picked this up and get.

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<v Speaker 2>Him my start, Who is that Andy? I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who that is? Who is that man mumbling? Philip Kitcher.

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<v Speaker 3>He's doing a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>To say that races don't exist. Scholars will tell us

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<v Speaker 2>that race doesn't exist. It is a social construct. How

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<v Speaker 2>you going to prove something as a social construct when

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<v Speaker 2>you go into it hoping to prove that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>social construct, so you gonna undo all the biological I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what they teach you right now. Race is

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<v Speaker 2>not real. It's a social construct. It's not real. Isn't

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<v Speaker 2>that convenient? Because when I asked you to tell the

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<v Speaker 2>truth about history, about the DNA, about how the.

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<v Speaker 3>First human beings were melanated.

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<v Speaker 2>Folk from Africa that spread everywhere, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>tell truth about that.

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<v Speaker 3>So history is a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>We know anthropologists are the scientific arm of white supremacy.

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<v Speaker 2>They've acknowledged as much, maybe not still today. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they came out and apologized they did. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>how colonialism started, imperialism started. Anthropology was the scientific.

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<v Speaker 3>Arm of white supremacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those people in the New World, they're yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're perfect for slaves. Yes, they're beneath us, and we

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<v Speaker 2>are we are deemed by God to be superior. We

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<v Speaker 2>know this to be true. I think it was our guy,

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<v Speaker 2>it was now de Grasse, Neil de Grassi, who basically

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<v Speaker 2>said the same thing about anthropology as one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most racist wings or disciplines in science. But psychology is

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<v Speaker 2>right behind it. Psychology in October, I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>October twenty ninth, twenty twenty one, issued its apology for

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<v Speaker 2>upholding you know, racist concepts and ideas. Well, why are

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<v Speaker 2>you bringing this up? You know it's Monday and I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta show out.

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<v Speaker 3>See, it's easy.

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<v Speaker 2>To scrutinize one social construct, race because that is generally

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<v Speaker 2>accepted as a part of Western thought, a part of

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<v Speaker 2>higher education. I was in the cigar lounge today and

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<v Speaker 2>I was having a conversation. And this is where this

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<v Speaker 2>topic came from. Even a psychologist, a clinician, if they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been married, their word may not be taken as

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<v Speaker 2>a solid.

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<v Speaker 3>Or informed word.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know, you've never been married. And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>why is it that a construct that is so supported

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<v Speaker 2>by science biology, such as race? Why is it that

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<v Speaker 2>we can attack that social construct but not the social

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<v Speaker 2>construct of marriage?

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<v Speaker 3>Tonight's topic.

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<v Speaker 2>If race is a false social contract, what makes marriage

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<v Speaker 2>more real? I know y'all not gonna like me tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't care. A deeper investigation into why modern

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<v Speaker 2>civilization deconstructs one human invention while protecting another one from

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<v Speaker 2>the same epistemological cross examination. Huh, marriage is realer than

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<v Speaker 2>race then, right? Because we openly teach that race is

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<v Speaker 2>not real, even though we have a wealth of biological

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<v Speaker 2>information that speaks to the contrary. Let's ask questions if

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<v Speaker 2>modern scholarship classifies both race and marriage as social constructs.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is race frequently described as lacking objective reality while

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<v Speaker 2>marriage continues to be treated as the super bowl of

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<v Speaker 2>relationships it marriage is treated as possessing objective social legitimacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is one social construct real and another one not real?

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<v Speaker 3>Go deeper though?

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<v Speaker 2>What if two people aren't healed and they're two masks

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<v Speaker 2>getting married? You know, Carl Jung, the mask, the persona,

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<v Speaker 2>the personality, two masks getting married? Did the real them

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<v Speaker 2>get married? What makes that marriage real? One eight hundred

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<v Speaker 2>ninety twenty fifteen. I Why isn't marriage subjected to the

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<v Speaker 2>same epistemological scrutiny that race is subjected to?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a voice of reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm up in here KBLA talk fifteen eighty where we

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<v Speaker 2>have the realest conversations. Nobody else is talking like this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm asking real questions. I want to know.

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<v Speaker 3>So our race is not as real.

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<v Speaker 2>As our marriage, and we've been faking it the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>I listen, I knew a system. She herself was a psychologist,

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<v Speaker 2>married for over ten years, says she never loved to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the marriage real? I know they were two black people?

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<v Speaker 2>One eight hundred and nine twenty fifteen and somebody get

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<v Speaker 2>to the phone lines.

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<v Speaker 3>If both If both race.

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<v Speaker 2>And marriage are purely immaterial concepts with no independent existence

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<v Speaker 2>in the physical universe, why does society universally treat the

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<v Speaker 2>destruction of racial categories as progress but the potential destruction

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<v Speaker 2>of marriagege categories as chaos? You'll be creating chaos if

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<v Speaker 2>you recontextualize marriageesh if they share the exact same ontological status,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning they only exist because we agree that they do.

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<v Speaker 2>By what logical metric? Is one deemed an illusion to

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<v Speaker 2>be shattered I erase, and the other a reality to

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<v Speaker 2>be preserved? Holy matrimony? Ah yeah, yeah, how about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just interested to know how is marriage more real.

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<v Speaker 3>Than race?

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<v Speaker 2>Because according to modern day educators, race is not a

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<v Speaker 2>real thing. So I guess the socioeconomic numbers right that

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<v Speaker 2>show black folk at the bottom of every significant statistic

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<v Speaker 2>in our society is an illusion. We routinely reject the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that a person's racial category dictates their intellectual or

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<v Speaker 2>psychological capacity. Yet when a highly trained, unmarried clinical psychologist

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<v Speaker 2>offers relationship counseling, society routinely dismisses their expertise based solely

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<v Speaker 2>on their lack of marriage status. I want a psychologist

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<v Speaker 2>who's married. This person ain't ever been buried. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>know nothing about marriage. Why do we recognize that race

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<v Speaker 2>cannot gatekeep a person's mind, but we stubbornly allow marriage

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<v Speaker 2>status to gatekeep a person's professional credibility? Yesh, tonight, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not playing which every Monday. I gotta come in here

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<v Speaker 2>off the chain.

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<v Speaker 3>Tonight's topic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a doozy.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we.

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<v Speaker 2>Picking and choosing which social construct has more value than

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<v Speaker 2>the other. Both race and marriage rely heavily on state

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<v Speaker 2>issue documentation like birth certificates and marriage licenses right to

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<v Speaker 2>enforce social tears. Yeah, if the state stopped tracking and

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<v Speaker 2>regulating marriage tomorrow, just as it has tried to dismantle

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<v Speaker 2>legal racial segregation, would marriage survive as a meaningful concept

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<v Speaker 2>or would it expose itself as just another state sponsored

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<v Speaker 2>tool used to award privilege to a chosen in group.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe marriage is more profitable than race, I said, maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>because you can make an argument that the different races

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<v Speaker 2>create a tremendous.

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<v Speaker 3>Amount of commerce. I'm just interested to know. Are races

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<v Speaker 3>less real.

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<v Speaker 2>Than marriage? Both social constructs? Why does one get the

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<v Speaker 2>scrutiny and the other does not. Race takes superficial physical traits.

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<v Speaker 2>Who said it was superficial physical traits? Who said super

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<v Speaker 2>and then melanin? And is superficial? You mean the superhuman

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<v Speaker 2>sunscreen that God gave us God?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? Hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>Race takes superficial physical traits i e. Melanin and falsely

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<v Speaker 2>maps them onto internal moral and intellectual worth. Does marriage

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<v Speaker 2>not do the exact same thing by taking a superficial

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<v Speaker 2>legal ritual and falsely mapping it onto the internal depth, longevity,

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<v Speaker 2>and health of a human emotional bond. In both cases,

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<v Speaker 2>aren't we guilty of looking at an external tag and

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<v Speaker 2>pretending it tells us the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>About a human soul?

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<v Speaker 2>Sheesus, Oh, tonight is a mess. You believe in marriage? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>But race is not real?

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<v Speaker 2>The teaching you that had in school right now, any

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<v Speaker 2>developmental psychology course, right, you're learning these things right now?

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<v Speaker 2>How is it that one can be attacked and the

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<v Speaker 2>other as protected. Historically, racial categories were invented to concentrate wealth, land,

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<v Speaker 2>and power in the hands of a dominant group. Right

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<v Speaker 2>we look at modern tax breaks, right, or when we

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<v Speaker 2>look at modern tax breaks inheritance laws, and healthcare benefits

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<v Speaker 2>that favor married couples over single people. How can we

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<v Speaker 2>claim marriage is purely about love when it's economic mechanics

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<v Speaker 2>functions exactly like a soft cast system designed to penalize

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<v Speaker 2>the solitary individual.

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<v Speaker 3>When I come forward the voice of reason, Oh we in.

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<v Speaker 2>Here on fire tonight. Who wants to have this real conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get it cracking.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much. But it's it's really not trivia.

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<v Speaker 4>It's big African thinking.

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<v Speaker 5>African philosophy is a big thing. But Africans think and

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<v Speaker 5>Africans do in a different way.

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<v Speaker 6>They create art, they create philosophy, They create.

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<v Speaker 7>Art more monumental than Michael Angelo. And they never signed

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<v Speaker 7>their name because they live in a society that is collective.

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<v Speaker 5>While the Europeans live in a society that is individual.

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<v Speaker 5>That is why you are trapped in this society. They

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<v Speaker 5>live in a we society and Europeans live in a

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<v Speaker 5>mean society.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a different kind of concept.

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<v Speaker 5>The Africans live for the totality, the collectiveness of the

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<v Speaker 5>whole society, and the Europeans live for the meanness of

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<v Speaker 5>the individual in the society.

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<v Speaker 4>This is why every time you see a piece.

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<v Speaker 5>Of European are you see somebody's name under and yet

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<v Speaker 5>the benean.

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<v Speaker 8>Are of Africa.

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<v Speaker 6>There's nobody's name who created the beneath? In the benean

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<v Speaker 6>are the great art of Egypt, the Great river are

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<v Speaker 6>of the Niger, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Art of Nigeria. All this are this.

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<v Speaker 7>This artist is good and sometimes better than the best

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<v Speaker 7>of Europe.

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<v Speaker 4>And yet the artists did not even sign his name,

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<v Speaker 4>because the art was created for the whole people.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you see the folk philosophy, the philosophy, the

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<v Speaker 5>folk law, the folk law in the folk tales.

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<v Speaker 6>Of Africa, all of these things are told and put

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<v Speaker 6>down not for individuals.

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<v Speaker 4>But the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Could is that the great legendary doctor Henry Clark. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess there's that didn't come from a.

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<v Speaker 3>Great race of people.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess race that Maybe he's just talking about a

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<v Speaker 3>Race of people. Could it? Could that be it? There's

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<v Speaker 2>I believe they want to say race is not real

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<v Speaker 2>because they got to tell the truth about the father

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<v Speaker 2>and mother race. They got to tell the truth about

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<v Speaker 2>their history. They already still say that Egypt is in

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<v Speaker 2>the Middle East. They will not say it's Africa. You

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<v Speaker 2>got people over there right now, redoing statues. Race is

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<v Speaker 2>is is a social construct. It's not real, right, but

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<v Speaker 2>marriage is realer, it's more authentic. Call in right now nine,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fifteen eighty. Human beings have a psychological habit of

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<v Speaker 2>naturalizing things that are entirely artificial. We used to believe

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<v Speaker 2>that racial hierarchies were ordained by God or nature, and

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<v Speaker 2>today we recognize that as a lie who.

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<v Speaker 3>Used to believe that? Was it? Black folk?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you saying black folk are liars? We're not in

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<v Speaker 2>the image and after the likeness of God, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the damn book said.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm sorry, I'm just asking. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Why then do we still speak about the new clear

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<v Speaker 2>married family structure as if it is the natural and

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<v Speaker 2>optimal state of human evolution when history shows humanity survive

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<v Speaker 2>for millennia right through fluid communal and non monogamous tribal networks.

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<v Speaker 2>setup that makes this monogamous version the better version?

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<v Speaker 3>And why is it realer than race? Yikes? Tonight is crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>One eight hundred nine, twenty fifteen eighty. In sociology, both

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<v Speaker 2>racism and singleism. The discrimination against unmarried people rely on

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<v Speaker 2>the same psychological mechanism, creating an idealized in group in

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<v Speaker 2>dehumanizing the out group. Oh my goodness. If the psychological

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<v Speaker 2>damage of being told you were lesser than because of

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<v Speaker 2>your race is right widely acknowledged, why do we minimize

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<v Speaker 2>the psychological damage inflicted on single or unmarried people who

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<v Speaker 2>are constantly told by culture that their lives are incomplete, broken,

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<v Speaker 2>or even tragic. You can't even take good advice from

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<v Speaker 2>someone that can help your broken relationship because they're not married.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is one social construct, which are both based on

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<v Speaker 2>the same mechanism, realer than the other.

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<v Speaker 3>When we come forward the voice of reason, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>keep this fire lit.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy, Wait a minute, hold on, where do you get

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<v Speaker 2>these records? That's Trince Okay, okay, okay, I hey listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard this record before.

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<v Speaker 3>Race nineteen ninety four.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but it's from the Come album.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, he has a song that he wrote and produced

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<v Speaker 2>for the Time that's a bigger hit and it's about

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<v Speaker 2>inter racial David. The song is called ice Cream Castles,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a bonavite slap This right here I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Told people before.

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<v Speaker 2>People get mad at me when I say this, Andy,

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<v Speaker 2>but Prince got some mid records, and that's a mid record.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a hit right here, though. Come on, Morris.

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<v Speaker 9>Officially titled I Talk to Davey Beyond why Racism, beyond

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<v Speaker 9>civil rights, human rights, and into African Revolution. I'm going

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<v Speaker 9>to center on the concept of revolution today, and I

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<v Speaker 9>will tell you why, because I'm sure some of you

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<v Speaker 9>will think that that's somewhat pass to be talking about revolution.

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<v Speaker 9>That was something people talked about in the sixties and

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<v Speaker 9>the seventies. Why I talk about it now? But I

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<v Speaker 9>think and I hope that as a result of what

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<v Speaker 9>I have to say here today, you might change your

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<v Speaker 9>opinion about that particular topic. I'd like to, of course

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<v Speaker 9>commend you for your celebration of African history, of African

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<v Speaker 9>American history, and of course we recognize the importance of

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<v Speaker 9>studying such history. How I think we still underestimate the

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<v Speaker 9>value of the study of African history. I think we

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<v Speaker 9>celebrate it without analyzing it. We search it and look

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<v Speaker 9>for heroes without understanding that one of its major purposes

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<v Speaker 9>is to teach us lessons and how to cope with

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<v Speaker 9>the present and with the future. Not only are those

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<v Speaker 9>people who do not know their history doomed to repeat it,

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<v Speaker 9>but those who often misread it are often doomed to

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<v Speaker 9>repeat it as well. And those who misread and perhaps

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<v Speaker 9>failed to read it at all, may not have a

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<v Speaker 9>chance to repeat it at all. And I think we

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<v Speaker 9>have reached this point where I failure to understand history

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<v Speaker 9>is going to put us in a position where we

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<v Speaker 9>won't have a chance to learn it again. The survival

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<v Speaker 9>of our people is at the crossroads today.

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<v Speaker 3>Pause it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the great doctor Amos Wilson, and I'm going.

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<v Speaker 3>To bring him back. Andy, do not let me go

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<v Speaker 3>without bringing him back. But he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying something that is so is race a part of

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<v Speaker 2>our sense of self?

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<v Speaker 8>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Our sense of self comes from home.

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<v Speaker 3>If they strip the home out you.

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<v Speaker 10>Right, your history, your culture, your byways and everything that

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<v Speaker 10>you do, everything about you, they stripped it out of

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<v Speaker 10>you and gave you a new standard.

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<v Speaker 3>To aspire to.

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<v Speaker 11>Do.

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<v Speaker 2>You See, I can argue that race is realer than marriage,

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<v Speaker 2>because what if marriage is just an economic familial construct

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<v Speaker 2>that is designed to hold up the economic system that

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<v Speaker 2>they got in place. Commoditized families, Say what so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how about it? How about it?

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<v Speaker 2>But you're gonna teach that one is not real, right,

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<v Speaker 2>one is not real and one is real. I'm interested.

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<v Speaker 3>How did we get to this point? Andy? How did

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<v Speaker 3>we arrive here?

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<v Speaker 2>People are breaking their necks to get married even though

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<v Speaker 2>they're unhealed, unindividuated. Ain't never heard of Carl Jung individuation, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they've never heard of any of this stuff. But they

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<v Speaker 2>know they want to get married. They know that being

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<v Speaker 2>married is the super Bowl of relationships. How did it

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<v Speaker 2>become the super Bowl of relationship? Shouldn't the super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>of relationship be individuation, healing yourself, becoming whole so you

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<v Speaker 2>can attract another whole person. That's a real communion. But

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<v Speaker 2>you'd rather be broken, fractured, shattered internally and married. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we wonder why the divorce rate is so high?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it high because the construct is just as fake

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<v Speaker 2>as they say races Sheesh fifteen eighty Andy, bring.

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<v Speaker 9>Doctor hamis reach this point where our failue to understand

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<v Speaker 9>history is going to put us in a position where

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<v Speaker 9>we won't have a chance to learn it again. The

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<v Speaker 9>survival of our people is at the crossroads today, and

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<v Speaker 9>our study of history then, should be about more than

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<v Speaker 9>celebrating our heroes, about more than celebrating the struggles, than

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<v Speaker 9>just keeping eyes on the prize. And those are valuable things, obviously,

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<v Speaker 9>but we must look at history in terms of coming

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<v Speaker 9>to understand our current and our future obligations and what

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<v Speaker 9>must be accomplished by those things will if we're not careful,

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<v Speaker 9>we will be beguiled by our study of history. Many

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<v Speaker 9>of us who have not studied, for instance, reconstruction history,

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<v Speaker 9>the history of the United States, particularly of African Americans

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<v Speaker 9>during the eighteen sixties and seventies, may think that we

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<v Speaker 9>are entering a new era in American history. We may

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<v Speaker 9>think that the things that we're witnessing today, the elections

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<v Speaker 9>of blacks to political office and their appointment to various positions,

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<v Speaker 9>their activities in various corporations, and so forth, to something

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<v Speaker 9>new in American history. And yet a study of reconstruction

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<v Speaker 9>history will quickly convince us that we are currently undergoing

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<v Speaker 9>deja vo. Many of us see history as a continuing

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<v Speaker 9>progress upward and ownment. We about the American concept of progress.

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<v Speaker 12>Honesty. Thank you so, our great leader in the struggle

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<v Speaker 12>of African liberation and the emancipation of our minds. I

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<v Speaker 12>want to say a big thank you on behalf of

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<v Speaker 12>the Movement of the People and uh In Niger Resistance

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<v Speaker 12>Movements to doctor Wade no nobles. Thank you very much,

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<v Speaker 12>sir for honoring us future presence. I'm glad to be

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<v Speaker 12>here and I'm hoping this technology won't purple us. I'm

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<v Speaker 12>trying of good seeing the show, okay, So good afternoon

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<v Speaker 12>to our distinguished guests, and good even into our own

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<v Speaker 12>members here in Nigeria, members of the Moment of the People,

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<v Speaker 12>members of nam Nijeryistan Movement. My name is Showan pabaiculty

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<v Speaker 12>and have the well on my privilege to introduce a

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<v Speaker 12>great African to you or in the name and person

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<v Speaker 12>of doctor Wade w He also has a few African names.

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<v Speaker 12>The Five Mission Diary Nanaku Quberco Bejana Bi Yes is

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<v Speaker 12>a Cristodian of Yes Okay. He's a custodian of Great.

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<v Speaker 2>And Grandma as political and communic economic operation in the

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<v Speaker 2>American society.

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<v Speaker 12>But bad Doctor Wad the fact the Mission Godarry is

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<v Speaker 12>professional emeritus in African Studies and Black Psychology at San

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<v Speaker 12>Francisco State University. The founding member and past president mathematic

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<v Speaker 12>four to my Fife of the Association of Black Psychologists

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<v Speaker 12>and the founder and executive director retired of the Institute

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<v Speaker 12>for the Advanced Study of Black Family Life and Culture

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<v Speaker 12>in Oakland, Doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Nor I tried to give him a shot. He wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to run down the whole resume. But let me be

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<v Speaker 2>clear about something. I'm not saying that marriage isn't important.

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<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying is, how can right these.

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<v Speaker 2>Social constructs, which basically operate on the same logical mechanism,

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<v Speaker 2>have a different level of societal scrutiny. Wouldn't black marriages

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<v Speaker 2>be stronger if we had a sense of racial pride?

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe that's what makes black marriages stronger because

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<v Speaker 2>we know we're black. Huh. I remember as a young kid,

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<v Speaker 2>my mama made us look at everything with black people

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<v Speaker 2>on TV. She didn't even know the name of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>They're black people on TV tonight, Come on, sit down,

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<v Speaker 2>Come on. They on TV because they knew the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't hey, this black folk on TV? Come on, sit down?

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<v Speaker 3>Well what is the show? It don't matter were watching it?

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<v Speaker 3>It's black folk.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about our music making music in between notes, the

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<v Speaker 2>blue notes, the ghost notes, the quarter notes, right, this

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<v Speaker 2>all comes from our heritage, our racial heritage. And I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't understand why one social construct. And first off,

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<v Speaker 2>how you gonna push all the way to race ain't real?

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<v Speaker 2>But you haven't acknowledged what you did to this race?

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean fully come out and say we did this. No,

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<v Speaker 2>you go to opposite direction. Ain't no critical race theory

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<v Speaker 2>being taught around here.

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<v Speaker 3>We not doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna damage the spirits of young white children

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<v Speaker 2>teaching this mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold tight, how do you jump all the way to

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<v Speaker 2>race ain't real? That only protects you because now you

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<v Speaker 2>get to say, well, this race didn't naturally do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You get to hide or come on. Now, race isn't real,

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<v Speaker 2>but marriage is, and they're both social constructs. Somebody reconcile

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<v Speaker 2>it for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm confused. I don't have all the answers.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come forward, I see the phone lines are

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<v Speaker 2>piling up.

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<v Speaker 3>When we come.

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<v Speaker 2>Forward, I'm gonna go to the phone lines because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really interested to know, you know, how people feel. Every

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<v Speaker 2>civilization inherits story is so old that eventually nobody remembers

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<v Speaker 2>they were stories. They become laws they become customs, they

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<v Speaker 2>become morality, they become identity. Then one day they become

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<v Speaker 2>so deeply woven into everyday life that questioning them feels

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<v Speaker 2>like questioning reality itself. That's how I feel about race.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a black man man, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I know sisters love black girl magic. I love being black.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna take that from me. You done took

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<v Speaker 2>everything else. Modern intellectual culture has spent decades asking whether

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<v Speaker 2>race is best understood as a biological destiny or as

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<v Speaker 2>a social construct whose meanings and hierarchies were historically created,

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<v Speaker 2>politically maintained, and culturally reinforced by whom. If we maintained

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00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.599
<v Speaker 2>it ourselves, you took that power, and then you maintained it.

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<v Speaker 3>Who named Nigeria Nigeria?

437
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.079
<v Speaker 2>Some white lady in Europe, in England somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, when I.

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<v Speaker 2>Come forward, I'm going back to the phone lines.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna talk to some cut.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is intimacy. Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 13>Now, by intimacy, we're talking about connection at the deepest level.

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<v Speaker 13>And really, when you hear like what as Morelda was

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<v Speaker 13>talking about here, all the things that we've been talking about,

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<v Speaker 13>it's about that that the healing needs to happen at

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<v Speaker 13>that level. There were things that Ron Daniels said that

447
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:41.800
<v Speaker 13>people who just came in did not get to benefit from.

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<v Speaker 3>But but what we.

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<v Speaker 13>Do, what I do, what as Morelda does carries on

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<v Speaker 13>from that, and that is that he said, you know,

451
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<v Speaker 13>there's no politics about culture, and he's he has come

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<v Speaker 13>to this understanding of the force of culture.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the work that I did do.

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<v Speaker 13>And I'm gonna try to share that little bit with

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<v Speaker 13>you today, and I'm also going to try to rush

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<v Speaker 13>through some things.

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<v Speaker 4>But I did want to say.

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<v Speaker 13>Listening, Uh, there is a there's a small book that

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<v Speaker 13>that that I've done that I really like, and that's

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<v Speaker 13>let the Circle be Unbroken. And it occurred to me

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<v Speaker 13>that the circle, as we call it, is really speaking

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<v Speaker 13>to the issues that we've.

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<v Speaker 12>Been talking about.

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<v Speaker 13>And it we've developed for students, for young people to

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<v Speaker 13>convince them that they were African. And so it had

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<v Speaker 13>to be well, how how am I? In what way

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<v Speaker 13>am I African? And the answer is in terms of

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<v Speaker 13>the deep structure of culture and of being. So I

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<v Speaker 13>would recommend that, and of course, first I've gotten to

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<v Speaker 13>be publish it.

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<v Speaker 3>Andy, who was that speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor marimba Ani. I love what she was saying, but

473
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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say this. I've come up with a new

474
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<v Speaker 2>term for black folk. I call us Everywhereans because we

475
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<v Speaker 2>from everywhere, not just Africa. Were the original Americans. We

476
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<v Speaker 2>are Everywhians. That's how I put it. We are the

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<v Speaker 2>original Asians. Asia just an Aderic word Asia, which means east.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why they call it the Orient Oriental. You

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<v Speaker 2>orient yourself to face the east. That's where the sun rises.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why their flag on Japan got the sun orient

481
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<v Speaker 2>Asia Asia East. Black man went east right. Seventy five

482
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<v Speaker 2>thousand year old DNA markers said, the first African step

483
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<v Speaker 2>foot into Asia the subcont of India, and then continued,

484
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:06.480
<v Speaker 2>you look at the history of body dharma. You find

485
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<v Speaker 2>out there was a black man who created the martial arts.

486
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<v Speaker 2>He brought it from Africa, then joined Buddhism, and then

487
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<v Speaker 2>integrated martial arts into boots.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey what he's saying.

489
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<v Speaker 2>Then later it becomes shaolin. Oh, y'all didn't know that

490
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:31.079
<v Speaker 2>it's all ours. The Chinese said, you know, hell Na,

491
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:34.280
<v Speaker 2>we come from the peking Man. We don't come out

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<v Speaker 2>of Africa. Get out of here. They did the research

493
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:39.440
<v Speaker 2>they paid the money, and it came back that most

494
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<v Speaker 2>of them. Ninety percent of China descend from pigmies, African pigmies.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a fact. Oh, ain't no race, though not

497
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<v Speaker 2>before you apologize for all the damage you did to

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00:38:56.760 --> 00:39:02.079
<v Speaker 2>all the races. I believe there's a stronger argument for

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<v Speaker 2>race than there is for the social construct of marriage. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>because the social constructive marriage don't say nothing about you

501
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:16.239
<v Speaker 2>being healed before you do it. The social constructive marriage

502
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:21.280
<v Speaker 2>doesn't say anything about marriage being a spiritual university where

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<v Speaker 2>you discover yourself, your wounds and everything you've repressed.

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00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh it don't say that.

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00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:34.239
<v Speaker 2>And the social construct constructive marriage does not say that

506
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.199
<v Speaker 2>once you heal, you might not want.

507
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:37.679
<v Speaker 3>To be married.

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00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 2>Oops. Wait a minute, so don't do this tonight eight

509
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<v Speaker 2>hundred nine twenty fifteen eighty We got callers on the line.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get him in here to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Willie from Palmdale, California, what are your thoughts on tonight's topic?

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<v Speaker 3>No profanity, Willie?

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<v Speaker 9>No?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh no, I don't have no profanity. I hope it

515
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<v Speaker 8>don't come out of me.

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<v Speaker 14>Kryd to couple here, what you're saying and stuff. I

517
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<v Speaker 14>just know what you're saying in real heavy.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>But I know there's you know, uh the uh Asian.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean where Manive Americans they go by tribes.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, and and I guess in Africa they got different

522
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:24.320
<v Speaker 15>tribes and stuff. And but I guess I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 15>say that instead of up saying race, they say tribes.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and so, but.

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<v Speaker 14>What you're saying is real heavy, man. I'm really digging

526
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<v Speaker 14>what you're saying a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 15>I didn't know about the p t men a couple

528
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<v Speaker 15>of pig meats in Africa, sou.

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<v Speaker 14>But I know everything written made. I was a little

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<v Speaker 14>bit of too in Africa.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>But I'm glad I got married.

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<v Speaker 14>I always say my wife saved me.

534
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<v Speaker 3>That's good.

535
00:40:56.679 --> 00:40:59.719
<v Speaker 2>I got married A good A good wife can save you.

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<v Speaker 4>Now yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>She she yeah, she really, she really said me.

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00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>And I guess I had to grow and be a man.

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<v Speaker 14>But what you say, I'm trying to get into finding

541
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:20.119
<v Speaker 14>myself and and grow and uh mature and uh be

542
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.679
<v Speaker 14>a better a better person as well, and and give

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<v Speaker 14>something back to the.

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<v Speaker 8>World, you know.

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<v Speaker 14>Uh So, but uh, I like your program. I still

546
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:35.519
<v Speaker 14>be trying to follow battle. A lot of stuff you

547
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:36.960
<v Speaker 14>said is way on my head.

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00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:37.320
<v Speaker 16>Man.

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00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:40.360
<v Speaker 14>You know, uh, you know, I know, you know your

550
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:44.599
<v Speaker 14>guess stickers from the sift and you know, and they

551
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:46.920
<v Speaker 14>they did upon what you're talking about.

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00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:50.519
<v Speaker 8>But I'm hanging in there, Willie.

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00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:53.320
<v Speaker 2>It don't matter, brother, you rolling with me, or you

554
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:54.280
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have called in.

555
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:55.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm with you, Willie.

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00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Something I said resonated in your spirit, whether you can

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<v Speaker 2>or articulated or not.

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00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:02.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm with you, Willie.

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00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Come on, Man? Am I right or wrong? Did something

560
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:09.719
<v Speaker 2>resonate with you?

561
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:10.079
<v Speaker 3>Were not?

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00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:14.079
<v Speaker 14>I was, like I said, I was trying to copy

563
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:18.880
<v Speaker 14>hand with the same because the race and the marriage

564
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.280
<v Speaker 14>things and kind of like and like, I'm trying to

565
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:21.920
<v Speaker 14>figure it out.

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<v Speaker 8>What did you say?

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00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:26.159
<v Speaker 2>So do you have questions for what I'm saying? I

568
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:29.000
<v Speaker 2>can walk you through it. Let me walk you through

569
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:34.920
<v Speaker 2>it in a simple way. Race is taught in school.

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<v Speaker 2>It is taught as a social construct, and it is

571
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<v Speaker 2>deconstructed as being not objectively true. In other words, you're

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00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:50.880
<v Speaker 2>not really black as a race or African or whatever.

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00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:54.719
<v Speaker 2>You're not really what you are right, what we've been

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00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 2>calling ourselves is not real. That's how they teach race.

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00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:03.119
<v Speaker 2>It's a social construct. But the argument that I'm making

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00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:08.199
<v Speaker 2>is there's an argument for race as a more sturdy

577
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:12.960
<v Speaker 2>social construct than there is for marriage, because marriage is

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00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:18.639
<v Speaker 2>a social construct too. Why does marriage not get the

579
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:27.239
<v Speaker 2>ontological and epistemological scrutiny that marriage get, or that race gets.

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00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Marriage does not get scrutinized. It is just believed to

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<v Speaker 2>be real, a reality, something that we all want, something

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00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:37.400
<v Speaker 2>that we all need. Right, But when we look at

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00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:40.960
<v Speaker 2>how it is constructed, is constructed more so as a corporation,

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<v Speaker 2>as a business, as a tax shelter.

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00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 8>But we used to call it jump into Brune.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, that's what I want to. Talk to me, Willie,

587
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:54.800
<v Speaker 2>talk to me.

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00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:57.719
<v Speaker 3>You're talking about our culture. Talk to me. We used

589
00:43:57.760 --> 00:43:59.239
<v Speaker 3>to call it jump into Brune. And what else?

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<v Speaker 14>No idea, Joe, I just guess that's all I.

591
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<v Speaker 2>Got, he said, I got the broom, man. That's all

592
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I got is the broom.

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00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:08.280
<v Speaker 4>Brother.

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00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Hey, hey, Willie, guess what you just did?

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<v Speaker 12>Brother?

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00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:14.599
<v Speaker 8>How about Palmdale in the building.

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00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Come on, he knows the protocol. Palmdale, California. Hey, any

598
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:24.800
<v Speaker 2>of my folk up in Palmdale, come on up in Lancaster, Victorville.

599
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Get on the line.

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<v Speaker 2>The number of dollars whatning under nine twenty fifteen eighty.

601
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<v Speaker 2>I love it, I love it, I love it. We

602
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:32.760
<v Speaker 2>got Cali sold from Denver, Colorado on the line, Cali.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on tonight's topic?

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<v Speaker 11>Going some sheets backs with this topic?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I felt like turning over tables today.

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<v Speaker 11>That's all my own head man.

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<v Speaker 2>We love Willie. Thank you Willie for calling.

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<v Speaker 3>But I know you got a question for me, Go

609
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:57.920
<v Speaker 3>ahead hit me up side the head.

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<v Speaker 11>Or my opinion, Yes, my opinion. What I see is

611
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<v Speaker 11>that if they can deconstruct raids, especially before an apology come,

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<v Speaker 11>they can justify never happen to pay reparations because then

613
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:27.440
<v Speaker 11>it's like, oh, no, you were never hurt. You were

614
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:33.320
<v Speaker 11>never you know, be stabilized or anything like that. You mean,

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<v Speaker 11>in fact, you didn't even your ancestors didn't even contribute

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<v Speaker 11>the way you want to say that they do.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>So you mean like kind of like the South, say

619
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<v Speaker 2>the Carolinas, when they saw how the new government was forming,

620
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.719
<v Speaker 2>they were like, eventually, with all of these new rules,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to attack our way of life, slavery, We're

622
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:01.559
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to succeed. That's the point, there's a similar

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00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:06.000
<v Speaker 2>analogy there right the south. The Carolinas was like, I

624
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.400
<v Speaker 2>see the writing on the wall here, you're about to

625
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:12.880
<v Speaker 2>abolish our way of life, and we need to secede

626
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.239
<v Speaker 2>before you do that and start our own little union.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk to me, CALLI Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>We gotta remember they had insurance on our ancestors head,

629
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:26.760
<v Speaker 11>and they knew that they were gonna kill them. They

630
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:28.559
<v Speaker 11>knew they were gonna die, so they knew they were

631
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<v Speaker 11>gonna get paid. Wow, you think about race today. They've

632
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:41.480
<v Speaker 11>got to be constructive because if they don't, they can

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<v Speaker 11>do the same things to us that they've done to

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<v Speaker 11>Native Americans. The marriage benefits the corporation and make money

635
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:57.800
<v Speaker 11>off of that on the tax side. But race, they'll

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<v Speaker 11>lose a lot of money. Why are we funding a

637
00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:04.000
<v Speaker 11>war right now? We ain't even that. Ain't even got

638
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.400
<v Speaker 11>nothing to do with us. Ain't even our business. What

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00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:12.559
<v Speaker 11>is our business as Americans is reparations for all of

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<v Speaker 11>the descendants of place.

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<v Speaker 3>How about that?

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<v Speaker 2>But would they be paying a race of people reparations

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<v Speaker 2>or because race doesn't exist, they can't find us.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, then there's that they would be paying everybody because

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<v Speaker 11>we all mixed in now you know, they would have

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<v Speaker 11>to figure out ratios and all kinds of stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>and it's been a system set up to try to

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<v Speaker 11>excavate America's space of ethnic people, specifically black folks. I

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<v Speaker 11>was listening to a show the other day, it's just

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<v Speaker 11>Native America lady, and she was saying that it has

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<v Speaker 11>been a common thing for her people to experience being

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<v Speaker 11>told by a white person, Oh, we thought that all

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<v Speaker 11>of y'all were dead. Yeah, yeah, we didn't even know y'all.

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<v Speaker 11>What are you doing and in front of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Yeah, even though you know, we have boats going

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth from America to South America to the

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<v Speaker 2>Islands and back, transporting people that were indigenous to here

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<v Speaker 2>to there, and from indigenous from there to here.

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<v Speaker 3>And then mix again. Come on, we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Everywhere arians, We're everywhereans.

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<v Speaker 3>And what I know is you owe everybody you came

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<v Speaker 3>in contact with. That's all I'm saying that far.

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<v Speaker 4>So is it?

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta ask you this question, Kelly? Is it racist?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a racist idea to say that the only

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<v Speaker 2>people that should have race is the people that birthed

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<v Speaker 2>all the people everybody that doesn't, And that isn't a

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<v Speaker 2>part of that lineage shouldn't be able to call themselves

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<v Speaker 2>a race.

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<v Speaker 11>Racist?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a racist idea?

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<v Speaker 11>I don't understand the question.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, if we're going to use the term race,

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<v Speaker 2>only people that gave birth to all the other races

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<v Speaker 2>should be called a race?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh yeah, is that racist?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh yes, that would be racist of us, but it

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<v Speaker 11>would be only fair, right, But.

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<v Speaker 2>How could it be racist of us when we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any systems of power to enforce that racism? They've

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<v Speaker 2>done that, right, And are we saying that they created

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<v Speaker 2>race just so that they can enforce power or were

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<v Speaker 2>they going to do that we whether there was a term.

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<v Speaker 4>For it or not.

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<v Speaker 11>I think they were gonna do it whether there was

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<v Speaker 11>a term for it or not. But I think giving

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<v Speaker 11>it a term made it more poll It.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't look at you, Cali soul is out here, like

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<v Speaker 2>what in the world. I'm just asking the question, right,

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<v Speaker 2>if real marriage is about the integration of two integrated people,

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<v Speaker 2>did I change the definition? You shouldn't even get married

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<v Speaker 2>unless you're on the path of individuation. Otherwise it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be some kind of conflict, right, And most people can't

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<v Speaker 2>deal with the conflict because most of us have been

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<v Speaker 2>running right, So two masks are getting married Carl Jung's

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<v Speaker 2>prisona the mask we wear right getting married?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a real marriage?

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<v Speaker 11>No, that's been for failure, which is why they don't

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<v Speaker 11>care whether we do it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Social construct, Right, the number one indicator for wealth in

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<v Speaker 2>America is marriage, and the number one indicator for poverty

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<v Speaker 2>in America is divorce. Come on, it's business, right, it's.

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<v Speaker 11>Business, and if you don't know how to do it right,

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<v Speaker 11>you're gonna fail.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's feeling like social construct, right, So if it's

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<v Speaker 2>a social construct, shouldn't it be scrutinized as much as

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<v Speaker 2>race has been scrutinized.

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<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, that's just my id. Again, they make a lot

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<v Speaker 11>of money off.

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<v Speaker 2>Of so the one that is the most economically suitable

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<v Speaker 2>sound is the one that gets legitimacy in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same Wow, CALLI soul. Guess what you just did, sweetheart?

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<v Speaker 9>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, Denver, Colorado is on the board.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, when we get to the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Were going in a straight line, but we're going south,

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<v Speaker 2>well south east, We're gonna go southeast down in Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 2>You already know what it is the deacon. Is is

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<v Speaker 2>about the preach.

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<v Speaker 17>Hello and welcome back guys to the channel guide somebody, okay,

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<v Speaker 17>or a sociology called lecture jes maham krenge marriage Mariba

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<v Speaker 17>social institution to chilia start yeah, caama topic to basically

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<v Speaker 17>marriage marriage kuagar simple terms myagar jah to marriage social

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<v Speaker 17>authority here just society part society authority, social permission, her

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<v Speaker 17>jahamber permit to produce.

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<v Speaker 8>Babies.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, to expand.

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<v Speaker 2>Family babies expanded family.

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<v Speaker 17>Shadia basic meaning key ultimately kagar yamper number teen generations,

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<v Speaker 17>high charge generations, the top generation of maribas of kahak.

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<v Speaker 4>Or in.

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<v Speaker 17>Death near her in order to maintain the balance in

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<v Speaker 17>the family. In order to maintain the balance in the

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<v Speaker 17>family to top generation o their uh last generation marriage

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<v Speaker 17>marriage JUGI to marriage off springs, off springs uh evidence

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<v Speaker 17>stability balanced maintained.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, hold on, who was that?

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<v Speaker 2>And and he said, I can't tell you these people

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<v Speaker 2>names the page of sociology endeavor again again, that sounded

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<v Speaker 2>like uh. An Indian woman, right, She's from a collectivistics society.

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<v Speaker 2>Black folk are collectivistics society within an individualistic society. And

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<v Speaker 2>she was talking about how marriage is a stabilizer of

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<v Speaker 2>the family. I'm one hundred percent with marriage. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>against it, y'all. The central question here is why does

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<v Speaker 2>one social construct get destroyed while another one gets uplifted.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna ask my guest.

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<v Speaker 2>She's on right now, NICKI from the sip NICKI. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I hate to do this to you. You

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<v Speaker 2>got two minutes, but then I'm gonna carry you over.

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<v Speaker 4>So go ahead, brothers, though in the fam.

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<v Speaker 3>Fool this.

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<v Speaker 18>Yes, this part is relevant to exactly what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 18>So the history part is we come from Alcubulans hey

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<v Speaker 18>l k e b u l a n. That is

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<v Speaker 18>the original name for Africa.

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<v Speaker 8>It is translated as.

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<v Speaker 18>The mother of mankind.

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<v Speaker 8>Or the garden of Eve.

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<v Speaker 18>The mother of mankind speaks to your topic.

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<v Speaker 14>That's important.

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<v Speaker 18>It happened because a Spaniard named Leo Ciprio Africanus conquered

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<v Speaker 18>that continent of Alqbuln. During the time of conquest, the

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<v Speaker 18>people who paid for or actually conquered were the people

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<v Speaker 18>responsible for renaming the lands that they took.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, stay right there, don't go nowhere.

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<v Speaker 19>Just just all.

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<v Speaker 2>Africanas is a Greek Italian in a Roman old Lord,

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<v Speaker 2>stay right there, don't go nowhere. When we come forward,

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<v Speaker 2>we about to get a lesson full for thought from Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 16>There have been many different things written and said about marriage,

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<v Speaker 16>from the sweetly inspirational to the hilariously cynical. But what

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<v Speaker 16>many of them have in common is that they sound

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<v Speaker 16>like they express a universal and timeless truth, when in fact,

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<v Speaker 16>nearly everything about marriage, from its main purpose to the

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<v Speaker 16>kinds of relationships it covers, to the rights and responsibilities involved,

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<v Speaker 16>has varied greatly between different eras, cultures, and social classes.

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<v Speaker 16>So let's take a quick look at the evolution of marriage.

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<v Speaker 16>Pair bonding and raising children is as old as humanity itself.

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<v Speaker 2>With the rise of.

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<v Speaker 16>Sedentary agricultural societies about ten thousand years ago, marriage was

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<v Speaker 16>also a way of securing rights to land and property

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<v Speaker 16>by designating children born under certain circumstances as rightful heirs.

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<v Speaker 16>As these societies became larger and more complex, mariage which

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<v Speaker 16>became not just a matter between individuals and families, but

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<v Speaker 16>also an official institution governed by religious and civil authorities,

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<v Speaker 16>and it was already well established by twenty one hundred BC,

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<v Speaker 16>when the earliest surviving written laws, in the Mesopotamian Code

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<v Speaker 16>of or Namu, provided many specifics governing marriage, from punishments

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<v Speaker 16>for adultery to the legal status of children born to slaves.

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<v Speaker 16>Many ancient civilizations allowed some form of multiple simultaneous marriage,

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<v Speaker 16>and even today, less than a quarter of the world's

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<v Speaker 16>hundreds of different cultures prohibit it. But just because something

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<v Speaker 16>was allowed doesn't mean it was always possible. Demographic realities

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<v Speaker 16>as well as the link between marriage and wealth, meant

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<v Speaker 16>that even though rulers and elites in ancient Mesopotamia, Egypt,

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<v Speaker 16>and Israel had multiple concubines or wives, most commoners could

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<v Speaker 16>only afford one or two, tending towards monogamy and practice.

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<v Speaker 16>In other places, the tables were turned and a woman

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<v Speaker 16>could have multiple husbands, as in the Himmal Mountains, where

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<v Speaker 16>all brothers in a family marrying the same woman kept

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<v Speaker 16>the small amount of fertile land from being constantly divided

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<v Speaker 16>into new households.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe the Jackson's is part of him Alayans. It's

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe that's where Jermaine is from.

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<v Speaker 3>Because that A'm right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, you listening to the vo

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<v Speaker 2>are the voice of reason.

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<v Speaker 3>We all complete fire. Well, who was that clip from?

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<v Speaker 3>That was interesting? But you still see what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a social construct, marriage, business, right, transference of property.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Jendler, Right, that's who the clip was.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you see it's.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a construct. But it's more legitimate than race. But

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't always the case. We have a caller online.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get her in here and let her

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<v Speaker 2>have a little face to spread out. Nikki from the

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<v Speaker 2>Nikki from Mississippi. She's about to give us some more

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<v Speaker 2>food for thought. Nikki, we're gonna get out of your way.

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<v Speaker 2>Please explain your position on this.

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<v Speaker 8>Well.

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<v Speaker 18>I need to finish with Leo because it's important to

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<v Speaker 18>your point. His birth name was al Hassan ben Muhammad

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<v Speaker 18>al Jazan al Fasi.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 18>He got to Leo because he got conquered by the

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<v Speaker 18>Romans and they renamed him.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 11>Now it's a pattern.

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<v Speaker 18>We know who we are culturally, but we don't We

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<v Speaker 18>don't really understand because most of us are taught what

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<v Speaker 18>I just said. If you came from a place called

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<v Speaker 18>al Qubulin and its name means the mother of mankind,

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<v Speaker 18>I'm answering the question.

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<v Speaker 8>For all the cultures, for all of them.

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<v Speaker 18>All of mankind. That means all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Kinds of man, all the different kinds of man, all

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<v Speaker 2>the different kinds of man, Yes, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 8>From there now, I have a theory.

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<v Speaker 18>As far as the marriage part is consult because your

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<v Speaker 18>question with regard to marriage, what makes marriage more real?

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<v Speaker 18>Real is a relative term.

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<v Speaker 8>To the people using it.

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<v Speaker 18>I suspect that part of what makes it more real,

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<v Speaker 18>other than children, the fact that there's a contract involved,

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<v Speaker 18>whether it be written or in blood, has to do

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<v Speaker 18>with the spiritual aspect. Okay, because in who whatever culture

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<v Speaker 18>you roll with, there is generally a spiritual component.

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<v Speaker 9>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go.

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<v Speaker 18>And and in cultures that are.

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<v Speaker 19>Inclined to not be individualistic but more group, family, tribe oriented,

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<v Speaker 19>that spiritual component is stronger, It is taught more, it becomes.

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<v Speaker 18>An innate part of you as a child born into

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<v Speaker 18>that culture, and whatever those precepts are, you tend to

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<v Speaker 18>carry into the age where you're getting married, and culturally

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<v Speaker 18>you will honor what those precepts are from a religious perspective,

858
01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:57.920
<v Speaker 18>maybe in some instances, and that's geographical more than you

859
01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:01.159
<v Speaker 18>might rings on fingers because men don't like to wear

860
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:04.400
<v Speaker 18>old anymore, and they don't cut their hands more to

861
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:12.039
<v Speaker 18>represent the sacrament. They do jump rooms, thank you will it.

862
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:19.400
<v Speaker 18>But I suspect that what makes it more real, generally speaking,

863
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:23.840
<v Speaker 18>has to do with the spiritual components. And if you

864
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:32.480
<v Speaker 18>come from millenated environments, you're gonna get some strong spiritual components.

865
01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Now you get you're hitting on something really big right here.

866
01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:44.119
<v Speaker 2>To me, everything about African or Black folks prior to

867
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:49.960
<v Speaker 2>white medland, Medland is what Big Mama used to call it, Medland.

868
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:56.599
<v Speaker 2>Prior to white medling, everything we did was holographic in

869
01:03:56.719 --> 01:04:01.400
<v Speaker 2>the sense of if we sang a song, there was

870
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:05.239
<v Speaker 2>spirituality in it. If we went to work, there was

871
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:09.000
<v Speaker 2>spirituality in it. Everything that we did, anything we.

872
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Did, contained the whole.

873
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:15.639
<v Speaker 2>And do you see what I'm saying. So I hear

874
01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:17.840
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying. I think we've lost some of that.

875
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Just don't go nowhere, stay right there, stay right there.

876
01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:25.719
<v Speaker 2>When we come forward, we going back to Nikki because

877
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:26.920
<v Speaker 2>she's not done cooking.

878
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:31.360
<v Speaker 20>So I want to begin by telling you all about

879
01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:33.719
<v Speaker 20>one of the couples I've been studying for some time now.

880
01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:38.119
<v Speaker 20>The Davis is Elvis met Travis Davis when she was

881
01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:39.960
<v Speaker 20>working in one of his furniture factories.

882
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.840
<v Speaker 2>This is one of my takes, and began, I gotta

883
01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:46.119
<v Speaker 2>get Nikki back in here. I wanted to listen to

884
01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:53.360
<v Speaker 2>her expound on a story about a couple, just to

885
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:57.159
<v Speaker 2>prove that marriage is a social construct.

886
01:04:57.199 --> 01:04:57.840
<v Speaker 3>We already know that.

887
01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:02.119
<v Speaker 2>What's more important is what NICKI was cooking up. Nikki

888
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:05.559
<v Speaker 2>from the sip, get in here and land this plain

889
01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:05.840
<v Speaker 2>for me.

890
01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:11.480
<v Speaker 8>Well, we must all keep.

891
01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:11.960
<v Speaker 19>In mind.

892
01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:19.440
<v Speaker 18>When you're talking about an institution that in this country

893
01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:23.840
<v Speaker 18>requires contractual obligations. On the fun end, most of us

894
01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:28.920
<v Speaker 18>don't read fine print when we find pints, right, okay,

895
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:34.119
<v Speaker 18>and then we write in cursive when we do. So

896
01:05:34.280 --> 01:05:37.239
<v Speaker 18>you didn't read the fine print, and you potentially curse

897
01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:39.039
<v Speaker 18>yourself with your signature on the thing.

898
01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:45.639
<v Speaker 8>And then you need Jesus after that.

899
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:48.599
<v Speaker 18>So there's a spiritual component because now you need them

900
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:50.880
<v Speaker 18>to come get you, because oh Lord, I'm then to

901
01:05:51.039 --> 01:06:01.039
<v Speaker 18>be uh huh, see when we don't recognize it. Now, understand,

902
01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:05.920
<v Speaker 18>the earth is going to require a payment.

903
01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:08.599
<v Speaker 14>For all of the debts.

904
01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:17.119
<v Speaker 18>From the mankind who have perpetuated the untruths, all of

905
01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:21.920
<v Speaker 18>them That's why I started with what I started with,

906
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:24.679
<v Speaker 18>because there are people listening to you who do not

907
01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:27.800
<v Speaker 18>know what I told you all this evening. And that's

908
01:06:28.039 --> 01:06:30.320
<v Speaker 18>very pertinent to your topic.

909
01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:32.079
<v Speaker 8>Because when you look.

910
01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:38.480
<v Speaker 18>Culturally at malanated cheapok and how whether it's tribal marriages,

911
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:42.719
<v Speaker 18>whatever the term of the day is, you want to

912
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:46.960
<v Speaker 18>use the strength of that also comes from the spiritual

913
01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:50.280
<v Speaker 18>place where we recognize who we are in the God

914
01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:50.800
<v Speaker 18>we serve.

915
01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:52.840
<v Speaker 3>So are you saying that.

916
01:06:55.599 --> 01:06:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Marriage has lost its spiritual component in the context of

917
01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:04.159
<v Speaker 2>this society. It's more business, it's less spiritual, Whereas the

918
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:14.119
<v Speaker 2>collectivist culture that we're from, everything had spirituality in it, relationships, food, seasoning, singing, songs, washing, bathing,

919
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:18.079
<v Speaker 2>everything was an act of spirituality. And you're saying, are

920
01:07:18.119 --> 01:07:21.920
<v Speaker 2>you saying that that piece is gone or diminished because

921
01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:23.880
<v Speaker 2>of our assimilation.

922
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:24.239
<v Speaker 3>Into this culture.

923
01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:29.559
<v Speaker 18>I am saying that it is not as real to us.

924
01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:32.960
<v Speaker 18>That is what I am saying.

925
01:07:33.400 --> 01:07:34.960
<v Speaker 14>Wow, you're going to use your words.

926
01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:42.039
<v Speaker 18>See I said real is a relative term. Wow, And

927
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:47.119
<v Speaker 18>I am saying that quite possible based on the evidence.

928
01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:52.840
<v Speaker 18>Divorce rates high people who cohabitate. But you live your

929
01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:55.400
<v Speaker 18>life and I live my life would we pretend to

930
01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:59.159
<v Speaker 18>be married because it's not real. It's not real because

931
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:02.599
<v Speaker 18>the thing that makes it real, the spiritual component, is

932
01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:03.599
<v Speaker 18>what makes it real.

933
01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:06.320
<v Speaker 14>People believe in the spiritual components.

934
01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:09.639
<v Speaker 18>We have talked about Gregory, We've talked about the bearing

935
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:10.880
<v Speaker 18>of the draws in the yard.

936
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:14.039
<v Speaker 8>We have talked about you can't do red sauce.

937
01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:14.840
<v Speaker 14>In the beginning of dating.

938
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:17.239
<v Speaker 8>That's what's real to people.

939
01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:23.560
<v Speaker 18>When you lose the spiritual realness that shows up in

940
01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:26.920
<v Speaker 18>the lack of real marriage is what I am.

941
01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:30.119
<v Speaker 19>I love it.

942
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:33.199
<v Speaker 3>Nikki, guess what you just did.

943
01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:36.359
<v Speaker 18>Chat about the sip in the building?

944
01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Saf is in the building. Hey, we appreciate Nikki from

945
01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:46.560
<v Speaker 2>the SIPs. She just flame broiled the whole situation tonight's topic.

946
01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:50.079
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it was heavy. My brother from.

947
01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Was He Lancaster, Palmdal They cousins. Willie was like, Maine,

948
01:08:58.359 --> 01:08:59.720
<v Speaker 2>what you own tonight?

949
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:00.319
<v Speaker 19>Brother.

950
01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I just had to point it out to me. It's

951
01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:10.239
<v Speaker 2>a contradiction. We can teach that race isn't real when

952
01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:15.279
<v Speaker 2>I know from my experience growing up as a black man,

953
01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Black Pasadena was amazing, Black Alta Dina was amazing.

954
01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:24.319
<v Speaker 3>You can't tell me that race is not real.

955
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:31.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but you're gonna tell me marriage is real. No,

956
01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:34.600
<v Speaker 2>marriage is business. That's how real marriage is.

957
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Modern.

958
01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Modern intellectual culture has spent decades asking whether race is

959
01:09:40.279 --> 01:09:44.399
<v Speaker 2>best understood as a biological destiny or as a social

960
01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:51.000
<v Speaker 2>construct whose meanings and hierarchies were historically created, politically maintained,

961
01:09:51.520 --> 01:09:59.159
<v Speaker 2>and culturally reinforced. That conversation has challenged inherited assumptions about identity, power,

962
01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:09.199
<v Speaker 2>and human worth. Yet another institution, equally dependent upon law, culture, religion, economics,

963
01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:18.600
<v Speaker 2>and collective agreement, rarely receives the same level of ontological scrutiny.

964
01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:22.479
<v Speaker 3>Marriage Why Why is that?

965
01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:27.760
<v Speaker 2>If race can be examined as a human classification whose

966
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:32.600
<v Speaker 2>social meaning is historically constructed rather than naturally self evident,

967
01:10:34.199 --> 01:10:41.319
<v Speaker 2>why should marriage survive the same identical philosophical cross examination.

968
01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Why does one institution continuously stand trial while while the

969
01:10:48.359 --> 01:10:54.319
<v Speaker 2>other often enters the courtroom already presumed legitimate. When you

970
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:59.359
<v Speaker 2>hear people say pair bonding ancient times, this is before

971
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:05.079
<v Speaker 2>the construction of the social contract which is marriage. This

972
01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:10.039
<v Speaker 2>is something that happened normally naturally. It was self evident

973
01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:17.119
<v Speaker 2>that men and women right from ancient times, even before

974
01:11:17.239 --> 01:11:21.119
<v Speaker 2>there was a concept of marriage. Pair bonded and got

975
01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:24.840
<v Speaker 2>together and had children and built families. It happened naturally

976
01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:30.680
<v Speaker 2>when society and economics and business and commerce came into play.

977
01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:35.800
<v Speaker 2>That's when you get the constructive marriage. Is their marriage

978
01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:40.279
<v Speaker 2>ceremony for Adam and Eve? When you read in the

979
01:11:40.359 --> 01:11:43.279
<v Speaker 2>Bible that Adam was lonely and God gave him a woman,

980
01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:47.680
<v Speaker 2>did she come with a ring? Was there ceremony where

981
01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:54.720
<v Speaker 2>God said I hereby say y'all are married? There is

982
01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:57.479
<v Speaker 2>no marriage ceremony.

983
01:11:57.600 --> 01:11:58.119
<v Speaker 3>Why is that.

984
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:00.199
<v Speaker 19>So?

985
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:05.840
<v Speaker 2>If the academicians and the clinicians, and the psychologists and

986
01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:10.039
<v Speaker 2>the teachers of this new doctrine can say race is

987
01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:18.119
<v Speaker 2>a social construct and is not real in reality, then

988
01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:20.399
<v Speaker 2>how can we not saying the same thing about marriage

989
01:12:21.640 --> 01:12:26.000
<v Speaker 2>When two fake people can get the certificate and the

990
01:12:26.159 --> 01:12:29.520
<v Speaker 2>ring and the dress and the grooms bright, and it's

991
01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:33.840
<v Speaker 2>all a facade because they've never gone inside and healed themselves.

992
01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Tonight's investigation does not ask whether marriage is good or bad.

993
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:49.640
<v Speaker 2>It asks a prior question that civilization seldom pauses long

994
01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:56.000
<v Speaker 2>enough to consider what makes any social construct objectively real.

995
01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:04.039
<v Speaker 2>A wedding license right cannot manufacture trust. A ceremony cannot

996
01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:05.960
<v Speaker 2>generate intimate. I'm gonna stop right there.

997
01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Listen.

998
01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:09.479
<v Speaker 2>I started the conversation, is up to you to finish it.

999
01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I'll be back tomorrow with another slapper. You know how

1000
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:14.159
<v Speaker 2>I do deuces,