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Speaker 1: Okay, so what should we make at the concept of race.

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There are a lot of anthropologists who would say we

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should just throw this concept away completely, there's no basis

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for it, and those people are responding to what many

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scholars call essentialist notions of race. There's something about this

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particular group of people, perhaps about their anatomy or their physiology,

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or their brains, or their genes or something like this,

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that differentiates them from various other groups of people. If

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there's one thing that we've learned from biological science and

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psychological science over the last century, it's that there's an

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enormous amount of variation within the groups that we've traditionally

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thought of as races, far more than there is between

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the groups we've traditionally thought of as races. Now, it

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turns out that if you look at things from a

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a genetic point of view, the certain kinds of molecular

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sequences are more common in some groups than in other groups.

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That's because during the course of human history, these groups

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have been separated from one another, they haven't intermarried, and

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that's given various chances for our various kinds of genetic

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material to become prevalent in some groups. But not in others.

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But the first thing to say about that is that

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these differences are trivial, largely trivial. There are some cases,

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as a well known diseases that tend to affect some

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groups more than others. That is, that is not trivial

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for the sufferers. But by and large, these differences are trivial. Now,

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about fifteen years ago, a tremendously brilliant study was done

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by researchers at Stanford that actually divided the human population

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into groups. The even the researchers themselves called into breeding populations. Oh,

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they didn't want to call them racist. But very quickly

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the popular press picked this up and get.

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Speaker 2: Him my start, Who is that Andy? I don't know

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who that is? Who is that man mumbling? Philip Kitcher.

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Speaker 3: He's doing a lot.

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Speaker 2: To say that races don't exist. Scholars will tell us

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that race doesn't exist. It is a social construct. How

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you going to prove something as a social construct when

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you go into it hoping to prove that it's a

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social construct, so you gonna undo all the biological I'm saying,

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this is what they teach you right now. Race is

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not real. It's a social construct. It's not real. Isn't

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that convenient? Because when I asked you to tell the

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truth about history, about the DNA, about how the.

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Speaker 3: First human beings were melanated.

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Speaker 2: Folk from Africa that spread everywhere, you don't want to

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tell truth about that.

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Speaker 3: So history is a lie.

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Speaker 2: We know anthropologists are the scientific arm of white supremacy.

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They've acknowledged as much, maybe not still today. You know,

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they came out and apologized they did. But this is

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how colonialism started, imperialism started. Anthropology was the scientific.

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Speaker 3: Arm of white supremacy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those people in the New World, they're yeah, they're

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they're perfect for slaves. Yes, they're beneath us, and we

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are we are deemed by God to be superior. We

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know this to be true. I think it was our guy,

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it was now de Grasse, Neil de Grassi, who basically

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said the same thing about anthropology as one of the

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most racist wings or disciplines in science. But psychology is

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right behind it. Psychology in October, I think it was

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October twenty ninth, twenty twenty one, issued its apology for

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upholding you know, racist concepts and ideas. Well, why are

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you bringing this up? You know it's Monday and I

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gotta show out.

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Speaker 3: See, it's easy.

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Speaker 2: To scrutinize one social construct, race because that is generally

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accepted as a part of Western thought, a part of

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higher education. I was in the cigar lounge today and

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I was having a conversation. And this is where this

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topic came from. Even a psychologist, a clinician, if they

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haven't been married, their word may not be taken as

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a solid.

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Speaker 3: Or informed word.

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Speaker 2: You don't know, you've never been married. And I said,

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why is it that a construct that is so supported

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by science biology, such as race? Why is it that

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we can attack that social construct but not the social

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construct of marriage?

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Speaker 3: Tonight's topic.

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Speaker 2: If race is a false social contract, what makes marriage

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more real? I know y'all not gonna like me tonight,

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but I don't care. A deeper investigation into why modern

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civilization deconstructs one human invention while protecting another one from

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the same epistemological cross examination. Huh, marriage is realer than

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race then, right? Because we openly teach that race is

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not real, even though we have a wealth of biological

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information that speaks to the contrary. Let's ask questions if

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modern scholarship classifies both race and marriage as social constructs.

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Why is race frequently described as lacking objective reality while

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marriage continues to be treated as the super bowl of

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relationships it marriage is treated as possessing objective social legitimacy.

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Why is one social construct real and another one not real?

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Speaker 3: Go deeper though?

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Speaker 2: What if two people aren't healed and they're two masks

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getting married? You know, Carl Jung, the mask, the persona,

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the personality, two masks getting married? Did the real them

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get married? What makes that marriage real? One eight hundred

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ninety twenty fifteen. I Why isn't marriage subjected to the

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same epistemological scrutiny that race is subjected to?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a voice of reason.

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Speaker 2: I'm up in here KBLA talk fifteen eighty where we

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have the realest conversations. Nobody else is talking like this.

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I'm asking real questions. I want to know.

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Speaker 3: So our race is not as real.

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Speaker 2: As our marriage, and we've been faking it the whole time.

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I listen, I knew a system. She herself was a psychologist,

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married for over ten years, says she never loved to do.

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Was the marriage real? I know they were two black people?

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One eight hundred and nine twenty fifteen and somebody get

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to the phone lines.

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Speaker 3: If both If both race.

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Speaker 2: And marriage are purely immaterial concepts with no independent existence

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in the physical universe, why does society universally treat the

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destruction of racial categories as progress but the potential destruction

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of marriagege categories as chaos? You'll be creating chaos if

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you recontextualize marriageesh if they share the exact same ontological status,

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meaning they only exist because we agree that they do.

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By what logical metric? Is one deemed an illusion to

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be shattered I erase, and the other a reality to

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be preserved? Holy matrimony? Ah yeah, yeah, how about that.

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I'm just interested to know how is marriage more real.

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Speaker 3: Than race?

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Speaker 2: Because according to modern day educators, race is not a

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real thing. So I guess the socioeconomic numbers right that

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show black folk at the bottom of every significant statistic

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in our society is an illusion. We routinely reject the

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idea that a person's racial category dictates their intellectual or

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psychological capacity. Yet when a highly trained, unmarried clinical psychologist

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offers relationship counseling, society routinely dismisses their expertise based solely

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on their lack of marriage status. I want a psychologist

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who's married. This person ain't ever been buried. They don't

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know nothing about marriage. Why do we recognize that race

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cannot gatekeep a person's mind, but we stubbornly allow marriage

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status to gatekeep a person's professional credibility? Yesh, tonight, I'm

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not playing which every Monday. I gotta come in here

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off the chain.

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Speaker 3: Tonight's topic.

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Speaker 2: It's a doozy.

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Speaker 3: Are we.

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Speaker 2: Picking and choosing which social construct has more value than

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the other. Both race and marriage rely heavily on state

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issue documentation like birth certificates and marriage licenses right to

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enforce social tears. Yeah, if the state stopped tracking and

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regulating marriage tomorrow, just as it has tried to dismantle

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legal racial segregation, would marriage survive as a meaningful concept

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or would it expose itself as just another state sponsored

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tool used to award privilege to a chosen in group.

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Maybe marriage is more profitable than race, I said, maybe,

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because you can make an argument that the different races

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create a tremendous.

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Speaker 3: Amount of commerce. I'm just interested to know. Are races

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Speaker 2: Than marriage? Both social constructs? Why does one get the

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scrutiny and the other does not. Race takes superficial physical traits.

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and then melanin? And is superficial? You mean the superhuman

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sunscreen that God gave us God?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Hold on.

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Speaker 2: Race takes superficial physical traits i e. Melanin and falsely

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maps them onto internal moral and intellectual worth. Does marriage

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not do the exact same thing by taking a superficial

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legal ritual and falsely mapping it onto the internal depth, longevity,

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and health of a human emotional bond. In both cases,

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aren't we guilty of looking at an external tag and

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pretending it tells us the truth.

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Speaker 3: About a human soul?

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Speaker 2: Sheesus, Oh, tonight is a mess. You believe in marriage? Right?

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Speaker 3: But race is not real?

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Speaker 2: The teaching you that had in school right now, any

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developmental psychology course, right, you're learning these things right now?

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How is it that one can be attacked and the

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other as protected. Historically, racial categories were invented to concentrate wealth, land,

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and power in the hands of a dominant group. Right

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we look at modern tax breaks, right, or when we

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look at modern tax breaks inheritance laws, and healthcare benefits

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that favor married couples over single people. How can we

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claim marriage is purely about love when it's economic mechanics

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functions exactly like a soft cast system designed to penalize

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the solitary individual.

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Speaker 3: When I come forward the voice of reason, Oh we in.

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Speaker 2: Here on fire tonight. Who wants to have this real conversation,

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let's get it cracking.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much. But it's it's really not trivia.

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It's big African thinking.

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Speaker 5: African philosophy is a big thing. But Africans think and

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Africans do in a different way.

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Speaker 6: They create art, they create philosophy, They create.

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Speaker 7: Art more monumental than Michael Angelo. And they never signed

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their name because they live in a society that is collective.

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Speaker 5: While the Europeans live in a society that is individual.

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That is why you are trapped in this society. They

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live in a we society and Europeans live in a

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mean society.

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Speaker 4: It's a different kind of concept.

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Speaker 5: The Africans live for the totality, the collectiveness of the

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whole society, and the Europeans live for the meanness of

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the individual in the society.

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Speaker 4: This is why every time you see a piece.

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Speaker 5: Of European are you see somebody's name under and yet

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the benean.

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Speaker 8: Are of Africa.

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Speaker 6: There's nobody's name who created the beneath? In the benean

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are the great art of Egypt, the Great river are

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of the Niger, the.

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Speaker 4: Art of Nigeria. All this are this.

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Speaker 7: This artist is good and sometimes better than the best

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of Europe.

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Speaker 4: And yet the artists did not even sign his name,

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because the art was created for the whole people.

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Speaker 5: And when you see the folk philosophy, the philosophy, the

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folk law, the folk law in the folk tales.

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Speaker 6: Of Africa, all of these things are told and put

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down not for individuals.

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Speaker 4: But the time.

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Speaker 2: Could is that the great legendary doctor Henry Clark. I

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guess there's that didn't come from a.

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Speaker 3: Great race of people.

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Speaker 2: I guess race that Maybe he's just talking about a

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culture and not a.

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Speaker 3: Race of people. Could it? Could that be it? There's

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a wealth of history.

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Speaker 2: I believe they want to say race is not real

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because they got to tell the truth about the father

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and mother race. They got to tell the truth about

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their history. They already still say that Egypt is in

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the Middle East. They will not say it's Africa. You

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got people over there right now, redoing statues. Race is

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is is a social construct. It's not real, right, but

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marriage is realer, it's more authentic. Call in right now nine,

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twenty fifteen eighty. Human beings have a psychological habit of

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naturalizing things that are entirely artificial. We used to believe

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that racial hierarchies were ordained by God or nature, and

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today we recognize that as a lie who.

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Speaker 3: Used to believe that? Was it? Black folk?

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Speaker 2: Are you saying black folk are liars? We're not in

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the image and after the likeness of God, I mean,

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the damn book said.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry, I'm just asking. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Why then do we still speak about the new clear

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married family structure as if it is the natural and

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optimal state of human evolution when history shows humanity survive

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for millennia right through fluid communal and non monogamous tribal networks.

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Am I advocating for polygamy here? What is the business

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setup that makes this monogamous version the better version?

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Speaker 3: And why is it realer than race? Yikes? Tonight is crazy?

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Speaker 2: One eight hundred nine, twenty fifteen eighty. In sociology, both

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racism and singleism. The discrimination against unmarried people rely on

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the same psychological mechanism, creating an idealized in group in

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dehumanizing the out group. Oh my goodness. If the psychological

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damage of being told you were lesser than because of

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your race is right widely acknowledged, why do we minimize

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the psychological damage inflicted on single or unmarried people who

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are constantly told by culture that their lives are incomplete, broken,

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or even tragic. You can't even take good advice from

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someone that can help your broken relationship because they're not married.

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Why is one social construct, which are both based on

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the same mechanism, realer than the other.

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Speaker 3: When we come forward the voice of reason, I'm gonna

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keep this fire lit.

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Speaker 2: Andy, Wait a minute, hold on, where do you get

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these records? That's Trince Okay, okay, okay, I hey listen,

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I've never heard this record before.

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Speaker 3: Race nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but it's from the Come album.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Look, he has a song that he wrote and produced

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for the Time that's a bigger hit and it's about

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inter racial David. The song is called ice Cream Castles,

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and that's a bonavite slap This right here I didn't.

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Speaker 3: Told people before.

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Speaker 2: People get mad at me when I say this, Andy,

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but Prince got some mid records, and that's a mid record.

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Speaker 3: This is a hit right here, though. Come on, Morris.

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Speaker 9: Officially titled I Talk to Davey Beyond why Racism, beyond

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civil rights, human rights, and into African Revolution. I'm going

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to center on the concept of revolution today, and I

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will tell you why, because I'm sure some of you

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will think that that's somewhat pass to be talking about revolution.

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That was something people talked about in the sixties and

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the seventies. Why I talk about it now? But I

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think and I hope that as a result of what

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I have to say here today, you might change your

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opinion about that particular topic. I'd like to, of course

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commend you for your celebration of African history, of African

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American history, and of course we recognize the importance of

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studying such history. How I think we still underestimate the

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value of the study of African history. I think we

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celebrate it without analyzing it. We search it and look

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for heroes without understanding that one of its major purposes

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is to teach us lessons and how to cope with

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the present and with the future. Not only are those

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people who do not know their history doomed to repeat it,

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but those who often misread it are often doomed to

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repeat it as well. And those who misread and perhaps

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failed to read it at all, may not have a

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chance to repeat it at all. And I think we

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have reached this point where I failure to understand history

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is going to put us in a position where we

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won't have a chance to learn it again. The survival

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of our people is at the crossroads today.

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Speaker 3: Pause it.

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Speaker 2: That is the great doctor Amos Wilson, and I'm going.

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Speaker 3: To bring him back. Andy, do not let me go

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without bringing him back. But he is.

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Speaker 2: Saying something that is so is race a part of

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our sense of self?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 2: Our sense of self comes from home.

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Speaker 3: If they strip the home out you.

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Speaker 10: Right, your history, your culture, your byways and everything that

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you do, everything about you, they stripped it out of

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you and gave you a new standard.

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Speaker 3: To aspire to.

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Speaker 11: Do.

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Speaker 2: You See, I can argue that race is realer than marriage,

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because what if marriage is just an economic familial construct

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that is designed to hold up the economic system that

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they got in place. Commoditized families, Say what so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how about it? How about it?

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Speaker 2: But you're gonna teach that one is not real, right,

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one is not real and one is real. I'm interested.

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Speaker 3: How did we get to this point? Andy? How did

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we arrive here?

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Speaker 2: People are breaking their necks to get married even though

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they're unhealed, unindividuated. Ain't never heard of Carl Jung individuation, right,

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they've never heard of any of this stuff. But they

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know they want to get married. They know that being

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married is the super Bowl of relationships. How did it

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become the super Bowl of relationship? Shouldn't the super Bowl

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of relationship be individuation, healing yourself, becoming whole so you

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can attract another whole person. That's a real communion. But

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you'd rather be broken, fractured, shattered internally and married. And

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then we wonder why the divorce rate is so high?

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Is it high because the construct is just as fake

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as they say races Sheesh fifteen eighty Andy, bring.

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Speaker 9: Doctor hamis reach this point where our failue to understand

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history is going to put us in a position where

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we won't have a chance to learn it again. The

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survival of our people is at the crossroads today, and

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our study of history then, should be about more than

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celebrating our heroes, about more than celebrating the struggles, than

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just keeping eyes on the prize. And those are valuable things, obviously,

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but we must look at history in terms of coming

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to understand our current and our future obligations and what

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must be accomplished by those things will if we're not careful,

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we will be beguiled by our study of history. Many

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of us who have not studied, for instance, reconstruction history,

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the history of the United States, particularly of African Americans

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during the eighteen sixties and seventies, may think that we

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are entering a new era in American history. We may

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think that the things that we're witnessing today, the elections

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of blacks to political office and their appointment to various positions,

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their activities in various corporations, and so forth, to something

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new in American history. And yet a study of reconstruction

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history will quickly convince us that we are currently undergoing

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deja vo. Many of us see history as a continuing

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progress upward and ownment. We about the American concept of progress.

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Speaker 12: Honesty. Thank you so, our great leader in the struggle

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of African liberation and the emancipation of our minds. I

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want to say a big thank you on behalf of

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the Movement of the People and uh In Niger Resistance

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Movements to doctor Wade no nobles. Thank you very much,

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sir for honoring us future presence. I'm glad to be

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here and I'm hoping this technology won't purple us. I'm

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trying of good seeing the show, okay, So good afternoon

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to our distinguished guests, and good even into our own

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members here in Nigeria, members of the Moment of the People,

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members of nam Nijeryistan Movement. My name is Showan pabaiculty

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and have the well on my privilege to introduce a

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great African to you or in the name and person

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of doctor Wade w He also has a few African names.

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The Five Mission Diary Nanaku Quberco Bejana Bi Yes is

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a Cristodian of Yes Okay. He's a custodian of Great.

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Speaker 2: And Grandma as political and communic economic operation in the

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American society.

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Speaker 12: But bad Doctor Wad the fact the Mission Godarry is

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professional emeritus in African Studies and Black Psychology at San

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Francisco State University. The founding member and past president mathematic

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four to my Fife of the Association of Black Psychologists

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and the founder and executive director retired of the Institute

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for the Advanced Study of Black Family Life and Culture

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in Oakland, Doctor.

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Speaker 2: Nor I tried to give him a shot. He wanted

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to run down the whole resume. But let me be

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clear about something. I'm not saying that marriage isn't important.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying is, how can right these.

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Speaker 2: Social constructs, which basically operate on the same logical mechanism,

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have a different level of societal scrutiny. Wouldn't black marriages

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be stronger if we had a sense of racial pride?

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And I believe that's what makes black marriages stronger because

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we know we're black. Huh. I remember as a young kid,

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my mama made us look at everything with black people

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on TV. She didn't even know the name of stuff.

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They're black people on TV tonight, Come on, sit down,

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Come on. They on TV because they knew the opportunity.

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Wasn't hey, this black folk on TV? Come on, sit down?

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Speaker 3: Well what is the show? It don't matter were watching it?

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It's black folk.

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Speaker 2: Think about our music making music in between notes, the

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blue notes, the ghost notes, the quarter notes, right, this

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all comes from our heritage, our racial heritage. And I

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just don't understand why one social construct. And first off,

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how you gonna push all the way to race ain't real?

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But you haven't acknowledged what you did to this race?

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And I mean fully come out and say we did this. No,

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you go to opposite direction. Ain't no critical race theory

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being taught around here.

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Speaker 3: We not doing that.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna damage the spirits of young white children

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teaching this mess.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, wait.

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Speaker 2: Hold tight, how do you jump all the way to

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race ain't real? That only protects you because now you

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get to say, well, this race didn't naturally do that.

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You get to hide or come on. Now, race isn't real,

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but marriage is, and they're both social constructs. Somebody reconcile

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it for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm confused. I don't have all the answers.

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Speaker 2: When we come forward, I see the phone lines are

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piling up.

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Speaker 3: When we come.

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Speaker 2: Forward, I'm gonna go to the phone lines because I'm

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really interested to know, you know, how people feel. Every

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civilization inherits story is so old that eventually nobody remembers

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they were stories. They become laws they become customs, they

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become morality, they become identity. Then one day they become

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so deeply woven into everyday life that questioning them feels

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like questioning reality itself. That's how I feel about race.

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I'm a black man man, I love it.

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Speaker 3: I know sisters love black girl magic. I love being black.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna take that from me. You done took

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everything else. Modern intellectual culture has spent decades asking whether

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race is best understood as a biological destiny or as

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a social construct whose meanings and hierarchies were historically created,

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politically maintained, and culturally reinforced by whom. If we maintained

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it ourselves, you took that power, and then you maintained it.

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Speaker 3: Who named Nigeria Nigeria?

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Speaker 2: Some white lady in Europe, in England somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Listen, when I.

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Speaker 2: Come forward, I'm going back to the phone lines.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk to some cut.

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Speaker 4: And that is intimacy. Mm hm.

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Speaker 13: Now, by intimacy, we're talking about connection at the deepest level.

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And really, when you hear like what as Morelda was

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talking about here, all the things that we've been talking about,

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it's about that that the healing needs to happen at

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that level. There were things that Ron Daniels said that

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people who just came in did not get to benefit from.

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Speaker 3: But but what we.

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Speaker 13: Do, what I do, what as Morelda does carries on

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from that, and that is that he said, you know,

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there's no politics about culture, and he's he has come

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to this understanding of the force of culture.

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Speaker 3: And that's the work that I did do.

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Speaker 13: And I'm gonna try to share that little bit with

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you today, and I'm also going to try to rush

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through some things.

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Speaker 4: But I did want to say.

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Speaker 13: Listening, Uh, there is a there's a small book that

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that that I've done that I really like, and that's

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let the Circle be Unbroken. And it occurred to me

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that the circle, as we call it, is really speaking

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to the issues that we've.

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Speaker 12: Been talking about.

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Speaker 13: And it we've developed for students, for young people to

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convince them that they were African. And so it had

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to be well, how how am I? In what way

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am I African? And the answer is in terms of

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the deep structure of culture and of being. So I

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would recommend that, and of course, first I've gotten to

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be publish it.

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Speaker 3: Andy, who was that speaking.

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Speaker 2: Doctor marimba Ani. I love what she was saying, but

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I'm gonna say this. I've come up with a new

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term for black folk. I call us Everywhereans because we

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from everywhere, not just Africa. Were the original Americans. We

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are Everywhians. That's how I put it. We are the

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original Asians. Asia just an Aderic word Asia, which means east.

478
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,559
This is why they call it the Orient Oriental. You

479
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:41,599
orient yourself to face the east. That's where the sun rises.

480
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,800
That's why their flag on Japan got the sun orient

481
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:54,639
Asia Asia East. Black man went east right. Seventy five

482
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:57,480
thousand year old DNA markers said, the first African step

483
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:03,760
foot into Asia the subcont of India, and then continued,

484
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,480
you look at the history of body dharma. You find

485
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,159
out there was a black man who created the martial arts.

486
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:15,519
He brought it from Africa, then joined Buddhism, and then

487
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:17,360
integrated martial arts into boots.

488
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: Hey what he's saying.

489
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,159
Speaker 2: Then later it becomes shaolin. Oh, y'all didn't know that

490
00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:31,079
it's all ours. The Chinese said, you know, hell Na,

491
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,280
we come from the peking Man. We don't come out

492
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,880
of Africa. Get out of here. They did the research

493
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,440
they paid the money, and it came back that most

494
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,760
of them. Ninety percent of China descend from pigmies, African pigmies.

495
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: It's a fact.

496
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: It's just a fact. Oh, ain't no race, though not

497
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,679
before you apologize for all the damage you did to

498
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:02,079
all the races. I believe there's a stronger argument for

499
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:08,320
race than there is for the social construct of marriage. Oh,

500
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,599
because the social constructive marriage don't say nothing about you

501
00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:16,239
being healed before you do it. The social constructive marriage

502
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,280
doesn't say anything about marriage being a spiritual university where

503
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,519
you discover yourself, your wounds and everything you've repressed.

504
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 3: Oh it don't say that.

505
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: And the social construct constructive marriage does not say that

506
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,199
once you heal, you might not want.

507
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:37,679
Speaker 3: To be married.

508
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,079
Speaker 2: Oops. Wait a minute, so don't do this tonight eight

509
00:39:41,159 --> 00:39:43,880
hundred nine twenty fifteen eighty We got callers on the line.

510
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: Let's get him in here to talk about this.

511
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 2: Willie from Palmdale, California, what are your thoughts on tonight's topic?

512
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:53,599
Speaker 3: No profanity, Willie?

513
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 9: No?

514
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:58,559
Speaker 8: Oh no, I don't have no profanity. I hope it

515
00:39:58,599 --> 00:39:59,280
don't come out of me.

516
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 14: Kryd to couple here, what you're saying and stuff. I

517
00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:05,039
just know what you're saying in real heavy.

518
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,039
Speaker 4: Uh.

519
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:12,199
Speaker 8: But I know there's you know, uh the uh Asian.

520
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,920
I mean where Manive Americans they go by tribes.

521
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 15: Yeah, and and I guess in Africa they got different

522
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,320
tribes and stuff. And but I guess I'm trying to

523
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,280
say that instead of up saying race, they say tribes.

524
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:30,679
Speaker 3: Okay, and so, but.

525
00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 14: What you're saying is real heavy, man. I'm really digging

526
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,920
what you're saying a lot of stuff.

527
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,039
Speaker 15: I didn't know about the p t men a couple

528
00:40:41,079 --> 00:40:44,280
of pig meats in Africa, sou.

529
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,119
Speaker 14: But I know everything written made. I was a little

530
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:48,400
bit of too in Africa.

531
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:49,519
Speaker 9: Uh.

532
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,599
Speaker 8: But I'm glad I got married.

533
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,519
Speaker 14: I always say my wife saved me.

534
00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:56,519
Speaker 3: That's good.

535
00:40:56,679 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: I got married A good A good wife can save you.

536
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 4: Now yeah yeah.

537
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 14: She she yeah, she really, she really said me.

538
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: Uh.

539
00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 8: And I guess I had to grow and be a man.

540
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 14: But what you say, I'm trying to get into finding

541
00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:20,119
myself and and grow and uh mature and uh be

542
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,679
a better a better person as well, and and give

543
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,559
something back to the.

544
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 8: World, you know.

545
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:33,119
Speaker 14: Uh So, but uh, I like your program. I still

546
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,519
be trying to follow battle. A lot of stuff you

547
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:36,960
said is way on my head.

548
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 16: Man.

549
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 14: You know, uh, you know, I know, you know your

550
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:44,599
guess stickers from the sift and you know, and they

551
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,920
they did upon what you're talking about.

552
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,519
Speaker 8: But I'm hanging in there, Willie.

553
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: It don't matter, brother, you rolling with me, or you

554
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,280
wouldn't have called in.

555
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Willie.

556
00:41:56,199 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: Something I said resonated in your spirit, whether you can

557
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,039
or articulated or not.

558
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Willie.

559
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: Come on, Man? Am I right or wrong? Did something

560
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:09,719
resonate with you?

561
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:10,079
Speaker 3: Were not?

562
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:14,079
Speaker 14: I was, like I said, I was trying to copy

563
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:18,880
hand with the same because the race and the marriage

564
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,280
things and kind of like and like, I'm trying to

565
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:21,920
figure it out.

566
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:22,559
Speaker 8: What did you say?

567
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,159
Speaker 2: So do you have questions for what I'm saying? I

568
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,000
can walk you through it. Let me walk you through

569
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:34,920
it in a simple way. Race is taught in school.

570
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:41,199
It is taught as a social construct, and it is

571
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,000
deconstructed as being not objectively true. In other words, you're

572
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:50,880
not really black as a race or African or whatever.

573
00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:54,719
You're not really what you are right, what we've been

574
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,679
calling ourselves is not real. That's how they teach race.

575
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:03,119
It's a social construct. But the argument that I'm making

576
00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:08,199
is there's an argument for race as a more sturdy

577
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,960
social construct than there is for marriage, because marriage is

578
00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:18,639
a social construct too. Why does marriage not get the

579
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:27,239
ontological and epistemological scrutiny that marriage get, or that race gets.

580
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:30,719
Marriage does not get scrutinized. It is just believed to

581
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,519
be real, a reality, something that we all want, something

582
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:37,400
that we all need. Right, But when we look at

583
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:40,960
how it is constructed, is constructed more so as a corporation,

584
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:42,920
as a business, as a tax shelter.

585
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 8: But we used to call it jump into Brune.

586
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,519
Speaker 2: Come on, that's what I want to. Talk to me, Willie,

587
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:54,800
talk to me.

588
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 3: You're talking about our culture. Talk to me. We used

589
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,239
to call it jump into Brune. And what else?

590
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 14: No idea, Joe, I just guess that's all I.

591
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: Got, he said, I got the broom, man. That's all

592
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:07,920
I got is the broom.

593
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 4: Brother.

594
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, Willie, guess what you just did?

595
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 12: Brother?

596
00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:14,599
Speaker 8: How about Palmdale in the building.

597
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 2: Come on, he knows the protocol. Palmdale, California. Hey, any

598
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:24,800
of my folk up in Palmdale, come on up in Lancaster, Victorville.

599
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 3: Get on the line.

600
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: The number of dollars whatning under nine twenty fifteen eighty.

601
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,079
I love it, I love it, I love it. We

602
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:32,760
got Cali sold from Denver, Colorado on the line, Cali.

603
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,440
What are your thoughts on tonight's topic?

604
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,079
Speaker 11: Going some sheets backs with this topic?

605
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:45,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt like turning over tables today.

606
00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:48,519
Speaker 11: That's all my own head man.

607
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 2: We love Willie. Thank you Willie for calling.

608
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: But I know you got a question for me, Go

609
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:57,920
ahead hit me up side the head.

610
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 11: Or my opinion, Yes, my opinion. What I see is

611
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:17,719
that if they can deconstruct raids, especially before an apology come,

612
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:23,960
they can justify never happen to pay reparations because then

613
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:27,440
it's like, oh, no, you were never hurt. You were

614
00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:33,320
never you know, be stabilized or anything like that. You mean,

615
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,760
in fact, you didn't even your ancestors didn't even contribute

616
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,360
the way you want to say that they do.

617
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:39,119
Speaker 3: Huh.

618
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,159
Speaker 2: So you mean like kind of like the South, say

619
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,599
the Carolinas, when they saw how the new government was forming,

620
00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:52,719
they were like, eventually, with all of these new rules,

621
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,519
you're going to attack our way of life, slavery, We're

622
00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:01,559
gonna have to succeed. That's the point, there's a similar

623
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:06,000
analogy there right the south. The Carolinas was like, I

624
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,400
see the writing on the wall here, you're about to

625
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:12,880
abolish our way of life, and we need to secede

626
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:16,239
before you do that and start our own little union.

627
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:21,119
Speaker 3: Talk to me, CALLI Yeah.

628
00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 11: We gotta remember they had insurance on our ancestors head,

629
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,760
and they knew that they were gonna kill them. They

630
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,559
knew they were gonna die, so they knew they were

631
00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:37,960
gonna get paid. Wow, you think about race today. They've

632
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:41,480
got to be constructive because if they don't, they can

633
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:43,840
do the same things to us that they've done to

634
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:53,400
Native Americans. The marriage benefits the corporation and make money

635
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,800
off of that on the tax side. But race, they'll

636
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,719
lose a lot of money. Why are we funding a

637
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,000
war right now? We ain't even that. Ain't even got

638
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:07,400
nothing to do with us. Ain't even our business. What

639
00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:12,559
is our business as Americans is reparations for all of

640
00:47:12,679 --> 00:47:15,800
the descendants of place.

641
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: How about that?

642
00:47:18,119 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 2: But would they be paying a race of people reparations

643
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:25,480
or because race doesn't exist, they can't find us.

644
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 11: Well, then there's that they would be paying everybody because

645
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,000
we all mixed in now you know, they would have

646
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:39,800
to figure out ratios and all kinds of stuff. Yeah,

647
00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:48,119
and it's been a system set up to try to

648
00:47:48,679 --> 00:47:56,360
excavate America's space of ethnic people, specifically black folks. I

649
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,639
was listening to a show the other day, it's just

650
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,880
Native America lady, and she was saying that it has

651
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:09,360
been a common thing for her people to experience being

652
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,400
told by a white person, Oh, we thought that all

653
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,719
of y'all were dead. Yeah, yeah, we didn't even know y'all.

654
00:48:18,159 --> 00:48:20,559
What are you doing and in front of it?

655
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, even though you know, we have boats going

656
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,039
back and forth from America to South America to the

657
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:33,400
Islands and back, transporting people that were indigenous to here

658
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,000
to there, and from indigenous from there to here.

659
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:39,599
Speaker 3: And then mix again. Come on, we're.

660
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,639
Speaker 2: Everywhere arians, We're everywhereans.

661
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 3: And what I know is you owe everybody you came

662
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,639
in contact with. That's all I'm saying that far.

663
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:51,519
Speaker 4: So is it?

664
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,159
Speaker 3: I gotta ask you this question, Kelly? Is it racist?

665
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 2: Is it a racist idea to say that the only

666
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,639
people that should have race is the people that birthed

667
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,159
all the people everybody that doesn't, And that isn't a

668
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:10,199
part of that lineage shouldn't be able to call themselves

669
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:10,760
a race.

670
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:14,079
Speaker 11: Racist?

671
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 3: Is that a racist idea?

672
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 11: I don't understand the question.

673
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying, if we're going to use the term race,

674
00:49:24,639 --> 00:49:28,119
only people that gave birth to all the other races

675
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,559
should be called a race?

676
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, is that racist?

677
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:34,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?

678
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,679
Speaker 11: Oh yes, that would be racist of us, but it

679
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,800
would be only fair, right, But.

680
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,159
Speaker 2: How could it be racist of us when we don't

681
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,719
have any systems of power to enforce that racism? They've

682
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:55,679
done that, right, And are we saying that they created

683
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,920
race just so that they can enforce power or were

684
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,280
they going to do that we whether there was a term.

685
00:50:01,159 --> 00:50:01,679
Speaker 4: For it or not.

686
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,559
Speaker 11: I think they were gonna do it whether there was

687
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:09,280
a term for it or not. But I think giving

688
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:14,239
it a term made it more poll It.

689
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:24,599
Speaker 2: Can't look at you, Cali soul is out here, like

690
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,800
what in the world. I'm just asking the question, right,

691
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:37,599
if real marriage is about the integration of two integrated people,

692
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:43,119
did I change the definition? You shouldn't even get married

693
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:48,119
unless you're on the path of individuation. Otherwise it's gonna

694
00:50:48,159 --> 00:50:51,360
be some kind of conflict, right, And most people can't

695
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,039
deal with the conflict because most of us have been

696
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:59,679
running right, So two masks are getting married Carl Jung's

697
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:03,719
prisona the mask we wear right getting married?

698
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 3: Is that a real marriage?

699
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 11: No, that's been for failure, which is why they don't

700
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:12,760
care whether we do it or not.

701
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 2: Social construct, Right, the number one indicator for wealth in

702
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,039
America is marriage, and the number one indicator for poverty

703
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:24,480
in America is divorce. Come on, it's business, right, it's.

704
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 11: Business, and if you don't know how to do it right,

705
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:27,960
you're gonna fail.

706
00:51:28,679 --> 00:51:34,079
Speaker 2: So it's feeling like social construct, right, So if it's

707
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:37,360
a social construct, shouldn't it be scrutinized as much as

708
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:38,920
race has been scrutinized.

709
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 11: Absolutely, that's just my id. Again, they make a lot

710
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:44,719
of money off.

711
00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: Of so the one that is the most economically suitable

712
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,599
sound is the one that gets legitimacy in this country.

713
00:51:54,599 --> 00:51:59,960
It's the same Wow, CALLI soul. Guess what you just did, sweetheart?

714
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:00,199
Speaker 9: Right?

715
00:52:03,039 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 2: Come on, Denver, Colorado is on the board.

716
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,679
Speaker 3: Listen, when we get to the other side.

717
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: Were going in a straight line, but we're going south,

718
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:18,920
well south east, We're gonna go southeast down in Mississippi.

719
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,880
You already know what it is the deacon. Is is

720
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,000
about the preach.

721
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:31,119
Speaker 17: Hello and welcome back guys to the channel guide somebody, okay,

722
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:42,840
or a sociology called lecture jes maham krenge marriage Mariba

723
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:57,559
social institution to chilia start yeah, caama topic to basically

724
00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:09,000
marriage marriage kuagar simple terms myagar jah to marriage social

725
00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:18,000
authority here just society part society authority, social permission, her

726
00:53:20,119 --> 00:53:26,599
jahamber permit to produce.

727
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:29,679
Speaker 8: Babies.

728
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,119
Speaker 17: Yeah, to expand.

729
00:53:33,079 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: Family babies expanded family.

730
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:44,119
Speaker 17: Shadia basic meaning key ultimately kagar yamper number teen generations,

731
00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:48,039
high charge generations, the top generation of maribas of kahak.

732
00:53:49,199 --> 00:53:49,519
Speaker 4: Or in.

733
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:55,679
Speaker 17: Death near her in order to maintain the balance in

734
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,639
the family. In order to maintain the balance in the

735
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:12,679
family to top generation o their uh last generation marriage

736
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:27,039
marriage JUGI to marriage off springs, off springs uh evidence

737
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,159
stability balanced maintained.

738
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 3: Okay, hold on, who was that?

739
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: And and he said, I can't tell you these people

740
00:54:39,159 --> 00:54:51,239
names the page of sociology endeavor again again, that sounded

741
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:58,000
like uh. An Indian woman, right, She's from a collectivistics society.

742
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:04,880
Black folk are collectivistics society within an individualistic society. And

743
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,039
she was talking about how marriage is a stabilizer of

744
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,320
the family. I'm one hundred percent with marriage. I'm not

745
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:20,199
against it, y'all. The central question here is why does

746
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:28,679
one social construct get destroyed while another one gets uplifted.

747
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna ask my guest.

748
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 2: She's on right now, NICKI from the sip NICKI. Now

749
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,920
you know, I hate to do this to you. You

750
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:41,159
got two minutes, but then I'm gonna carry you over.

751
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,199
Speaker 4: So go ahead, brothers, though in the fam.

752
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:47,559
Speaker 3: Fool this.

753
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 18: Yes, this part is relevant to exactly what you're talking about.

754
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:59,840
So the history part is we come from Alcubulans hey

755
00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:02,960
l k e b u l a n. That is

756
00:56:03,079 --> 00:56:04,960
the original name for Africa.

757
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 8: It is translated as.

758
00:56:09,519 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 18: The mother of mankind.

759
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 8: Or the garden of Eve.

760
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 18: The mother of mankind speaks to your topic.

761
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 14: That's important.

762
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 18: It happened because a Spaniard named Leo Ciprio Africanus conquered

763
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:38,039
that continent of Alqbuln. During the time of conquest, the

764
00:56:38,159 --> 00:56:43,960
people who paid for or actually conquered were the people

765
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:48,000
responsible for renaming the lands that they took.

766
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,559
Speaker 3: Wait, stay right there, don't go nowhere.

767
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:56,039
Speaker 19: Just just all.

768
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,519
Speaker 2: Africanas is a Greek Italian in a Roman old Lord,

769
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:04,960
stay right there, don't go nowhere. When we come forward,

770
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,880
we about to get a lesson full for thought from Mississippi.

771
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 16: There have been many different things written and said about marriage,

772
00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:17,280
from the sweetly inspirational to the hilariously cynical. But what

773
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,679
many of them have in common is that they sound

774
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,440
like they express a universal and timeless truth, when in fact,

775
00:57:23,719 --> 00:57:27,079
nearly everything about marriage, from its main purpose to the

776
00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:31,039
kinds of relationships it covers, to the rights and responsibilities involved,

777
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,320
has varied greatly between different eras, cultures, and social classes.

778
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,119
So let's take a quick look at the evolution of marriage.

779
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,159
Pair bonding and raising children is as old as humanity itself.

780
00:57:43,679 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 2: With the rise of.

781
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 16: Sedentary agricultural societies about ten thousand years ago, marriage was

782
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,599
also a way of securing rights to land and property

783
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,840
by designating children born under certain circumstances as rightful heirs.

784
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,159
As these societies became larger and more complex, mariage which

785
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:03,400
became not just a matter between individuals and families, but

786
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:07,519
also an official institution governed by religious and civil authorities,

787
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,440
and it was already well established by twenty one hundred BC,

788
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,679
when the earliest surviving written laws, in the Mesopotamian Code

789
00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:20,000
of or Namu, provided many specifics governing marriage, from punishments

790
00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:23,159
for adultery to the legal status of children born to slaves.

791
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:28,760
Many ancient civilizations allowed some form of multiple simultaneous marriage,

792
00:58:29,079 --> 00:58:31,559
and even today, less than a quarter of the world's

793
00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:35,280
hundreds of different cultures prohibit it. But just because something

794
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,679
was allowed doesn't mean it was always possible. Demographic realities

795
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,719
as well as the link between marriage and wealth, meant

796
00:58:42,719 --> 00:58:46,119
that even though rulers and elites in ancient Mesopotamia, Egypt,

797
00:58:46,199 --> 00:58:50,440
and Israel had multiple concubines or wives, most commoners could

798
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,079
only afford one or two, tending towards monogamy and practice.

799
00:58:55,239 --> 00:58:57,760
In other places, the tables were turned and a woman

800
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,280
could have multiple husbands, as in the Himmal Mountains, where

801
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,159
all brothers in a family marrying the same woman kept

802
00:59:04,239 --> 00:59:07,199
the small amount of fertile land from being constantly divided

803
00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:08,199
into new households.

804
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: So maybe the Jackson's is part of him Alayans. It's

805
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,519
maybe maybe that's where Jermaine is from.

806
00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 3: Because that A'm right.

807
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, you listening to the vo

808
00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:23,679
are the voice of reason.

809
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 3: We all complete fire. Well, who was that clip from?

810
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:35,199
That was interesting? But you still see what I'm talking about.

811
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 2: That's a social construct, marriage, business, right, transference of property.

812
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,880
Alex Jendler, Right, that's who the clip was.

813
00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:49,119
Speaker 3: But if you see it's.

814
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: It's a construct. But it's more legitimate than race. But

815
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,719
that wasn't always the case. We have a caller online.

816
00:59:57,719 --> 00:59:58,960
I want to get her in here and let her

817
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,920
have a little face to spread out. Nikki from the

818
01:00:03,559 --> 01:00:05,639
Nikki from Mississippi. She's about to give us some more

819
01:00:05,679 --> 01:00:07,559
food for thought. Nikki, we're gonna get out of your way.

820
01:00:07,639 --> 01:00:10,159
Please explain your position on this.

821
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:12,079
Speaker 8: Well.

822
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 18: I need to finish with Leo because it's important to

823
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:23,960
your point. His birth name was al Hassan ben Muhammad

824
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,239
al Jazan al Fasi.

825
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

826
01:00:28,519 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 18: He got to Leo because he got conquered by the

827
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,960
Romans and they renamed him.

828
01:00:35,199 --> 01:00:35,599
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

829
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 11: Now it's a pattern.

830
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,079
Speaker 18: We know who we are culturally, but we don't We

831
01:00:43,159 --> 01:00:46,920
don't really understand because most of us are taught what

832
01:00:47,079 --> 01:00:52,719
I just said. If you came from a place called

833
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:57,960
al Qubulin and its name means the mother of mankind,

834
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,239
I'm answering the question.

835
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,599
Speaker 8: For all the cultures, for all of them.

836
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,519
Speaker 18: All of mankind. That means all the.

837
01:01:08,639 --> 01:01:12,119
Speaker 2: Kinds of man, all the different kinds of man, all

838
01:01:12,199 --> 01:01:14,159
the different kinds of man, Yes, ma'am.

839
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:20,719
Speaker 8: From there now, I have a theory.

840
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 18: As far as the marriage part is consult because your

841
01:01:25,519 --> 01:01:32,519
question with regard to marriage, what makes marriage more real?

842
01:01:32,679 --> 01:01:34,239
Real is a relative term.

843
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,039
Speaker 8: To the people using it.

844
01:01:39,039 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 18: I suspect that part of what makes it more real,

845
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:45,599
other than children, the fact that there's a contract involved,

846
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,519
whether it be written or in blood, has to do

847
01:01:50,679 --> 01:01:57,960
with the spiritual aspect. Okay, because in who whatever culture

848
01:01:58,039 --> 01:02:02,360
you roll with, there is generally a spiritual component.

849
01:02:03,719 --> 01:02:04,039
Speaker 9: Hmm.

850
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:04,719
Speaker 2: There we go.

851
01:02:06,239 --> 01:02:11,119
Speaker 18: And and in cultures that are.

852
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 19: Inclined to not be individualistic but more group, family, tribe oriented,

853
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:28,440
that spiritual component is stronger, It is taught more, it becomes.

854
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:30,679
Speaker 18: An innate part of you as a child born into

855
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:35,840
that culture, and whatever those precepts are, you tend to

856
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:41,840
carry into the age where you're getting married, and culturally

857
01:02:42,039 --> 01:02:50,719
you will honor what those precepts are from a religious perspective,

858
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,920
maybe in some instances, and that's geographical more than you

859
01:02:58,119 --> 01:03:01,159
might rings on fingers because men don't like to wear

860
01:03:01,199 --> 01:03:04,400
old anymore, and they don't cut their hands more to

861
01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:12,039
represent the sacrament. They do jump rooms, thank you will it.

862
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:19,400
But I suspect that what makes it more real, generally speaking,

863
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,840
has to do with the spiritual components. And if you

864
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:32,480
come from millenated environments, you're gonna get some strong spiritual components.

865
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: Now you get you're hitting on something really big right here.

866
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:44,119
To me, everything about African or Black folks prior to

867
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,960
white medland, Medland is what Big Mama used to call it, Medland.

868
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:56,599
Prior to white medling, everything we did was holographic in

869
01:03:56,719 --> 01:04:01,400
the sense of if we sang a song, there was

870
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,239
spirituality in it. If we went to work, there was

871
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,000
spirituality in it. Everything that we did, anything we.

872
01:04:09,119 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 3: Did, contained the whole.

873
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:15,639
Speaker 2: And do you see what I'm saying. So I hear

874
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:17,840
what you're saying. I think we've lost some of that.

875
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,239
Just don't go nowhere, stay right there, stay right there.

876
01:04:22,559 --> 01:04:25,719
When we come forward, we going back to Nikki because

877
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:26,920
she's not done cooking.

878
01:04:28,039 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 20: So I want to begin by telling you all about

879
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,719
one of the couples I've been studying for some time now.

880
01:04:34,199 --> 01:04:38,119
The Davis is Elvis met Travis Davis when she was

881
01:04:38,199 --> 01:04:39,960
working in one of his furniture factories.

882
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 2: This is one of my takes, and began, I gotta

883
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,119
get Nikki back in here. I wanted to listen to

884
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:53,360
her expound on a story about a couple, just to

885
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,159
prove that marriage is a social construct.

886
01:04:57,199 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 3: We already know that.

887
01:04:59,519 --> 01:05:02,119
Speaker 2: What's more important is what NICKI was cooking up. Nikki

888
01:05:02,199 --> 01:05:05,559
from the sip, get in here and land this plain

889
01:05:05,639 --> 01:05:05,840
for me.

890
01:05:08,519 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 8: Well, we must all keep.

891
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 19: In mind.

892
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 18: When you're talking about an institution that in this country

893
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:23,840
requires contractual obligations. On the fun end, most of us

894
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,920
don't read fine print when we find pints, right, okay,

895
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:34,119
and then we write in cursive when we do. So

896
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,239
you didn't read the fine print, and you potentially curse

897
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,039
yourself with your signature on the thing.

898
01:05:44,039 --> 01:05:45,639
Speaker 8: And then you need Jesus after that.

899
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,599
Speaker 18: So there's a spiritual component because now you need them

900
01:05:48,599 --> 01:05:50,880
to come get you, because oh Lord, I'm then to

901
01:05:51,039 --> 01:06:01,039
be uh huh, see when we don't recognize it. Now, understand,

902
01:06:02,679 --> 01:06:05,920
the earth is going to require a payment.

903
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:08,599
Speaker 14: For all of the debts.

904
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:17,119
Speaker 18: From the mankind who have perpetuated the untruths, all of

905
01:06:17,199 --> 01:06:21,920
them That's why I started with what I started with,

906
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:24,679
because there are people listening to you who do not

907
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,800
know what I told you all this evening. And that's

908
01:06:28,039 --> 01:06:30,320
very pertinent to your topic.

909
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,079
Speaker 8: Because when you look.

910
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 18: Culturally at malanated cheapok and how whether it's tribal marriages,

911
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,719
whatever the term of the day is, you want to

912
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,960
use the strength of that also comes from the spiritual

913
01:06:47,079 --> 01:06:50,280
place where we recognize who we are in the God

914
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:50,800
we serve.

915
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 3: So are you saying that.

916
01:06:55,599 --> 01:06:59,159
Speaker 2: Marriage has lost its spiritual component in the context of

917
01:06:59,239 --> 01:07:04,159
this society. It's more business, it's less spiritual, Whereas the

918
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:14,119
collectivist culture that we're from, everything had spirituality in it, relationships, food, seasoning, singing, songs, washing, bathing,

919
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:18,079
everything was an act of spirituality. And you're saying, are

920
01:07:18,119 --> 01:07:21,920
you saying that that piece is gone or diminished because

921
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,880
of our assimilation.

922
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:24,239
Speaker 3: Into this culture.

923
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:29,559
Speaker 18: I am saying that it is not as real to us.

924
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:32,960
That is what I am saying.

925
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 14: Wow, you're going to use your words.

926
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:42,039
Speaker 18: See I said real is a relative term. Wow, And

927
01:07:42,239 --> 01:07:47,119
I am saying that quite possible based on the evidence.

928
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:52,840
Divorce rates high people who cohabitate. But you live your

929
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,400
life and I live my life would we pretend to

930
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:59,159
be married because it's not real. It's not real because

931
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,599
the thing that makes it real, the spiritual component, is

932
01:08:02,679 --> 01:08:03,599
what makes it real.

933
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 14: People believe in the spiritual components.

934
01:08:06,599 --> 01:08:09,639
Speaker 18: We have talked about Gregory, We've talked about the bearing

935
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:10,880
of the draws in the yard.

936
01:08:11,079 --> 01:08:14,039
Speaker 8: We have talked about you can't do red sauce.

937
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 14: In the beginning of dating.

938
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,239
Speaker 8: That's what's real to people.

939
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 18: When you lose the spiritual realness that shows up in

940
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,920
the lack of real marriage is what I am.

941
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:30,119
Speaker 19: I love it.

942
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:33,199
Speaker 3: Nikki, guess what you just did.

943
01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:36,359
Speaker 18: Chat about the sip in the building?

944
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 2: Saf is in the building. Hey, we appreciate Nikki from

945
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:46,560
the SIPs. She just flame broiled the whole situation tonight's topic.

946
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,079
Speaker 3: Yes, it was heavy. My brother from.

947
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:58,079
Speaker 2: Was He Lancaster, Palmdal They cousins. Willie was like, Maine,

948
01:08:58,359 --> 01:08:59,720
what you own tonight?

949
01:09:00,079 --> 01:09:00,319
Speaker 19: Brother.

950
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Speaker 2: I just had to point it out to me. It's

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a contradiction. We can teach that race isn't real when

952
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I know from my experience growing up as a black man,

953
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Black Pasadena was amazing, Black Alta Dina was amazing.

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Speaker 3: You can't tell me that race is not real.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but you're gonna tell me marriage is real. No,

956
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marriage is business. That's how real marriage is.

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Speaker 3: Modern.

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Speaker 2: Modern intellectual culture has spent decades asking whether race is

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best understood as a biological destiny or as a social

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construct whose meanings and hierarchies were historically created, politically maintained,

961
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and culturally reinforced. That conversation has challenged inherited assumptions about identity, power,

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and human worth. Yet another institution, equally dependent upon law, culture, religion, economics,

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and collective agreement, rarely receives the same level of ontological scrutiny.

964
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Speaker 3: Marriage Why Why is that?

965
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Speaker 2: If race can be examined as a human classification whose

966
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social meaning is historically constructed rather than naturally self evident,

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why should marriage survive the same identical philosophical cross examination.

968
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Why does one institution continuously stand trial while while the

969
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other often enters the courtroom already presumed legitimate. When you

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01:10:54,399 --> 01:10:59,359
hear people say pair bonding ancient times, this is before

971
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the construction of the social contract which is marriage. This

972
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is something that happened normally naturally. It was self evident

973
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:17,119
that men and women right from ancient times, even before

974
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there was a concept of marriage. Pair bonded and got

975
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together and had children and built families. It happened naturally

976
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when society and economics and business and commerce came into play.

977
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That's when you get the constructive marriage. Is their marriage

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ceremony for Adam and Eve? When you read in the

979
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Bible that Adam was lonely and God gave him a woman,

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did she come with a ring? Was there ceremony where

981
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God said I hereby say y'all are married? There is

982
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no marriage ceremony.

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Speaker 3: Why is that.

984
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Speaker 19: So?

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Speaker 2: If the academicians and the clinicians, and the psychologists and

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the teachers of this new doctrine can say race is

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a social construct and is not real in reality, then

988
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how can we not saying the same thing about marriage

989
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When two fake people can get the certificate and the

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ring and the dress and the grooms bright, and it's

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all a facade because they've never gone inside and healed themselves.

992
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Tonight's investigation does not ask whether marriage is good or bad.

993
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It asks a prior question that civilization seldom pauses long

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enough to consider what makes any social construct objectively real.

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A wedding license right cannot manufacture trust. A ceremony cannot

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generate intimate. I'm gonna stop right there.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I started the conversation, is up to you to finish it.

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I'll be back tomorrow with another slapper. You know how

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I do deuces,