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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho.

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This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're

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going to bring you this week's episode of Dragnet. But

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nineteen fifty one, here is the Big Bungalow.

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Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true. The

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names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a

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detective sergeant. You're assigned to burglary detail. One of your

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informants contacts you by telephone. He says he wants to

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see you immediately. He claims knowledge of more than two

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dozen burglaries committed in your city. He offers the information

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despite threats against his own life. Your job investigate.

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Speaker 3: Dragnet, the documented drama of an actual crime. Will the

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next thirty minutes. In cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department.

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You will travel step by step on the side of

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the law through an actual case. Transcribed from official police violence,

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from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is

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the story of your police force in action.

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Speaker 4: Was Monday, April sixteenth, was foggy in Los Angeles. We're

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working the day watch out of burglary detail. My partner's

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Ben Romero. The boss's Captain Wisdom. My name's Friday. We're

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on the way out from the office and it was

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one thirty eight pm when we got to the corner

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of North Main and Cateello Street. Oaken's Cafe.

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Speaker 5: Pretty well filled up.

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Speaker 4: You want to sit at the counter those booth over

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there in the corner. If people just leaving, Oh yeah,

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I didn't see it. It's all right, and yeah fine.

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Speaker 5: Oh it smells good. And wonder what the special is today.

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Speaker 4: It's up there on the blackboard.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, enchilada with cheese, cold slough salad. That smell

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pretty good, doesn't I wish I hadn't had lunch. I

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should await and I keep forgetting. Monday's inch a lada

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day down here. You're like the way Johnny fixes oh.

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Speaker 6: Ben, How are you right? Yeah? I got these dirty

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dishes out of the way. Is he going to be

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the special?

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Speaker 5: No? We forgot today? It was Monday? We had lunch already,

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too bad.

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Speaker 6: What'll it be? Just coffee?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fine Friday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, same from me, Roberta.

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Speaker 6: Both of them black, I guess, kay, two blacks.

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Speaker 4: So you haven't seen Smally around this afternoon? Have you

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reburted Red? Smally Red?

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Speaker 6: No, I haven't seen him a couple of days.

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Speaker 5: I thought he said to meet him here at one thirty,

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and he'll be alone.

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Speaker 4: He's never been on time as long as I've known him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I wonder what's eating? And he sounds a little

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excited on the phone.

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Speaker 4: Did you give you any idea what it was all about? Know?

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Speaker 5: I just said it was important you had to see it. Hey,

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I'm just thinking maybe I could handle one of those

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as a lotas after all.

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Speaker 7: You know, there's Red alright, fellas late all right A

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long time?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I sit down, Red, good to see.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks, that's snow with you anyway?

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Speaker 4: Too much with you?

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Speaker 6: You are too? Coffee's black?

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Speaker 5: Are you in hungry?

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Speaker 7: What about a Hamburger steak? Can some coffee too?

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Speaker 6: Hamburger's taking coffee.

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Speaker 5: Right, You're looking pretty fair shape, Red. You're working steady now.

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Speaker 8: Oh you know how it goes on again, off again.

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Put in a full month playing bar boy at Ziggy's

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joint place down in South.

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Speaker 5: MAINI you know, hmm what happened there?

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Speaker 7: Business fell off and the ZIGGI he said he had

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to let me go and.

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Speaker 8: Kind of thin ever since, I'm hustling programs out of

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the racetrack right now. It's not too bad. I can't

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afford to bet, but I get to see the races free.

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You can't have everything, I guess.

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Speaker 4: I understand you're little worried about something, Red, anything serious.

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, it might be my guy's telling Ramri on

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the phone, or wouldn't do me no good if I

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got out, I mean me talking to you about it.

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Speaker 7: You know, he'd probably tie a can of my tell

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if he knew. I told you, who's that guy by

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name of Jeff Allen? I know I am no it.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't sound for many to me, Ben, I mean neither.

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Speaker 2: Who is he d?

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Speaker 7: Second story worker? Lots of savvy too.

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Speaker 8: He's fell a couple of times in Burglary Wraps knows

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his business so.

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Speaker 7: Got a lot of moxie.

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Speaker 5: How long has he been in town?

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Speaker 8: You know, about six months? I think he come from

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the East, finished the stretch back in Michigan.

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Speaker 4: It's a real pro Huh what's he doing out here?

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Speaker 9: Rin?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 7: A matter of fact, that's why I want to talk

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to you about figure. Maybe he out No, Yeah, he's

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doing real good the way I get it.

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Speaker 8: I heard him a couple other guys talking about it

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one night, don Ziggy's having a couple of beers.

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Speaker 7: I guess they didn't think.

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Speaker 4: I could hear him what they had to say.

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Speaker 8: This guy Allen was running off about how good he

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was doing, how many places he knocked over in the

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last couple of months, how much stuff he took.

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Speaker 5: What's he looked like, Rin? Oh?

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Speaker 7: But he average about my high, dark hair, a.

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Speaker 8: Little scar right in his chin, about one hundred six,

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twenty seventy maybe thirty six years old.

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Speaker 7: Usually wears leather jacket and black one.

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Speaker 6: All right, right, here you go, burger steak Carson.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, fine, sure, got a good appetise these days working

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out there, You know it does you good?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll show you. I'm passed around ball.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, here you go.

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Speaker 4: Oh could these burglary jobs Allan's supposed to be pulling? Red?

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Where's he working them? Do you know? Then?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 7: I guess are long all over town? I was bored? Sure,

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good hammer.

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Speaker 4: When you ever heard him talking to his friends? Did

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he mention any jobs in particular that he pulled?

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Speaker 8: No, he's working hard on all that for a part.

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The bulls are now one every week or so.

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Speaker 5: Way, I got what about his m o. Red aren't regular.

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Speaker 7: Second story routine?

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Speaker 8: Usually Jimmy or a small bench bar usually goes through

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the windows.

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Speaker 5: He worked alone? Uh huh?

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Speaker 7: Strictly there's French breads and nice and fresh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, where's that? I'm staying in town? Do you know Red?

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Speaker 7: No? No, I know where I can find him?

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Speaker 9: Though.

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Speaker 7: With thirteen twenty two club out.

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Speaker 8: On North Paris, they got hers out there quite a

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bit almost every night.

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Speaker 7: I think a guy who owns the joints for final.

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Speaker 4: Jeff Allen is that supposed to be his right name?

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Speaker 8: Red Fire as I know, uh huh. I ain't met

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him a couple of times. He hung around Ziggy's space

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when he first come to town. Of course I didn't

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know what he was up to.

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Speaker 4: Then you don't well enough to talk to him?

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Speaker 8: Well just about Yeah, I have buddies with him or anything.

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That's why I don't want to get out. You know,

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he gets the word I'm on your team. I'm a

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dad duck. I don't think he waste a minute calumb me.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to worry, Red. We'll keep it quiet.

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Why did you hear anything else? Or is that just

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about the size of him?

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Speaker 7: No, Mar's just about that far.

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Speaker 8: I'll keep near the ground if I get any more rumbled.

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How passer dome? Wow, I guess you know. I really

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hate to talk about it.

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Speaker 5: What's that Red?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 7: I mean how bad things have been running lately? You know,

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since I got laid off.

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Speaker 6: He is.

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Speaker 8: So like mad with the programs down the track and

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bring in a whole lot though, And I allows you

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land lady, had I raised my.

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Speaker 7: Rent last week?

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Speaker 4: How much can you use? Red? Oh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, sighs. Anything and I'll just let alone. Maybe

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something helped me hold home.

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Speaker 5: The only thing I have is a twenty Joe, you've

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got any change?

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Speaker 7: My thanks? So I'm matter of trying to be fine.

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That's plenty. I sure appreciate that.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, wow, real good Hamburger steak.

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Speaker 7: Johnny puts out. I gotta get go, and File's got me.

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Speaker 4: Down the track all right, Red, thanks a lot. Do

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there's anything else call us? Huh? You got our number?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 7: Anything, I'll stay right on. You want me for anything, holler?

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Speaker 10: Huh.

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Speaker 7: I'm still the same place, right, Zack's alot, see you there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, think it easy? Red?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I read he's getting a little expensive. Huh.

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Speaker 4: He's probably been having a rough time. But he looked hungry.

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Speaker 5: I mean sure he did grab that twenty dollars bill

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like his life depended on you. I went to buy

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some new wool socks.

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Speaker 4: Were they Well, i'll split it with you. Be worth

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more than twenty bucks if the tip pays off.

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Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong, I didn't mind giving him a

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twenty by books is worth it. But look at this year.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, check for the food.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think the least he could have done was

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pay for his own line.

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Speaker 4: By and large, the character of the informant in fact

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or fiction isn't generally regarded with too much sympathy. To

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most people, the informant's nothing more than a stool pigeon,

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a squealer, somebody who with a very active informing commits

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a sin against a supposedly popular, unwritten law. Well, it's

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obvious that this isn't always so, because in the interests

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of law enforcement and justice, which means the betterment of

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the community, the informant very often plays a major role.

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Year after year, informants are responsible for the apprehension and

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conviction of many hundreds of criminals, people who rob and

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sheet and commit murder, crimes that are obviously far deadlier

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than informing. As for the mechanics of law enforcement, at

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the level of the working detective, the informant is considered

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virtually indispensable. It's been said before by peace officers, and

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it'll probably be said again quite a few times. If

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your job is catching criminals and enforcing the law, this

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is the first rule you have to learn. The working

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detective is no better than his informants. Two twelve PM.

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Ben and I had no idea if the information we'd

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gotten from Red Smalley was authentic or not, but it

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had to be checked out. We went back to the

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office and had Frank Cunningham and R and I check

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on Jeff Allen. We also had the Stat's office make

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a run for us on suspects with similar mos. Then

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we started to page through reports of burglaries which had

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occurred throughout the city during the past three months. How

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you doing over there? Anything at know?

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Speaker 5: Not too much? Wait a minute, maybe this might be

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one of'em.

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Speaker 4: Here, let me see.

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Speaker 5: Home in Holland Beck Park neighborhood. Burger's MO matches out

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in a time Element two happened six weeks ago, winnowing.

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The second floor of the house was pride open. They

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took furs and money twenty three dollars.

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Speaker 4: Uh huh, that's the only one you found.

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Speaker 5: Another one here it took out a minute ago. M

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was pretty much the same on this and too. The

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only thing different is the night of the week it happened,

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and this one's a Thursday. That when there's a Sunday.

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It checks out pretty close.

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Speaker 4: Otherwise. The only one thing I can't figure, what's that? Well.

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Allan's supposed to have been in the city for at

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least six months. According to Red, he's working a job

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maybe once a week, once every ten days or so.

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Now you got two reports there. That matches them all. Here,

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I've picked out two more from that other pile. Seems

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to me if he's been working in town for a

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couple of months or ought to be more than four

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reports on him.

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Speaker 5: So I got Burglar and Meryl. Oh yeah, Frank, m M.

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Jeff Allen, that's all? Now you have huh okay, right, Frank,

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thank you? Yeah, Ry, And I got to make on Allen.

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He's had one arrest here four years ago in to

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veag George. He's a loser out of Michigan, go for burglary,

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never been picked up for bergery here though he didn't register,

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And that's all.

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Speaker 4: That's It doesn't seem to jail right to me? Doesn' you?

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Speaker 5: Not a loose? Ends to figure out?

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Speaker 4: Wonder if Red was handing us a line on this thing,

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why would he Well, maybe he needed that twenty dollars touch.

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Maybe this Jeff Allen's an old Palais is read out

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of falling out with him. He wants to get in

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with him.

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Speaker 5: This possible? I guess I don't got cha?

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Speaker 4: Then, Hello, neighbor, what do you saying what's with you?

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You're still in that steakhout south in the town.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, third week?

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Speaker 7: Sure, getting dell. You two look busy?

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Speaker 5: What's all this? Oh, we've got a tip on some

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prowl artist funny. Get a line on.

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Speaker 4: Take a look at this three point one wind, Jim,

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you run into any jobs recently to stack up like this?

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I say we're shooting in the dark on it so far,

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I don't know if we got anything or not.

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Speaker 5: I'd say you got it regular report in the seventy

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seven division this morning. Happened to check it when I

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was out there, same amo, Is this same everything?

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Speaker 4: Four fifty five pm, Ben and I went down the

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hall to the record bureau and picked up a couple

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of mugshots of the suspect, Jefferson Allen. Then we drove

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out to the thirteen twenty two Club on North Ferris

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Avenue in the Silver Lake District, the neighborhood bar where

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Allen spent most of his time, according to our informant,

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read Smally. We staked out in the car down the

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where we could keep an eye on the front door

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of the bar and still not look suspicious. Between five

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and seven thirty pm, we watched at least two dozen

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customers entering or leaving the bar, but none of them

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came close to Alan's description eight pm nothing. By the

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time where we relieved on steak out at eleven pm,

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Alan still had failed to show. Late the following afternoon,

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we were back at the same spot watching for a

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sign of the suspect. Six forty eight pm.

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Speaker 5: How are you fixed for smokes?

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Speaker 4: Oh? I think I got a couple left. Yeah, here

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you go.

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Speaker 8: I got a light here, yeah, six.

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Speaker 5: Hey you have a look Joe gray hat, dark suit.

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He just came out of the bar.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's coming this way. Yeah, I'll buy it.

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Speaker 5: That's him getting in that blue sid down.

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Speaker 4: I don't press Himlet's gi him a good leave, right,

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just get him in. What do you think Let's wait

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a minute, Yeah, okay, we'll clear all right? You got

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him spotted?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no trouble. That's a funny one. Huh. I wonder

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why we didn't see him go in and bore.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. It might be a delivery entrance in

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the back of the place we could have missed.

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Speaker 5: Can you make out that Licen's number?

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Speaker 4: Can you plod just a little? That's good? Yeah, let's

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see seven toms seven ninety seven to two. I better

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check it. Eighty K to control one, eight OK to

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control one.

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Speaker 9: Control under eighty K, going.

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Speaker 4: Ahead, control one, request rolling making DMV on seven times

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seven nine seven to two. That's seven times seven nine

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seven to two.

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Speaker 6: Control under eighty K. Rogers stand by.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't seem to be in a great hurry, barely

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poking along? Or is he now?

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Speaker 4: I can't see?

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Speaker 5: Just turn right on to Bronson. I want to give

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him plenty of lee. Uh yeah, thatt's him up ahead,

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there's picking up speed.

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Speaker 4: I don't lose him.

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Speaker 1: Ride control one to eighty K, control one to eight.

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Speaker 4: OK, come in, please here we go eighty K to

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control one, go ahead seven.

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Speaker 3: Tom seven nine seven two.

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Speaker 6: The car is registered to D.

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Speaker 1: Denver J.

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Speaker 3: John Carpenter, thirteen twenty two, North Paris.

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Speaker 4: Avenue, Los Angeles, eighty K to control one Roger Cam

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eight three sixty seven Carpenter.

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Speaker 5: The same guy owns a bar, isn't it is? Adam

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must know him.

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Speaker 4: Pretty well well enough to use his car. Wonder what

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the pitch is there? You checked on, Carpenter, didn't you?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Clean bill of health, no record? Yeah? Up ahead there

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now he's.

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Speaker 4: Slowing down, Yeah, turning up on the driveway, pull up

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under that tree there. Huh right, that's fine, see him,

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uh huh getting out, going to that bungle over there,

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letting himself in the front door.

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Speaker 5: No sign of anybody else there. No house was dark

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when we drove up, wasn't it. He couldn't be living

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there alone.

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Speaker 4: He might be.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't make much sense to me. Why would a single

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guy get himself.

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Speaker 4: A house that'd be Let's wait it out. Maybe he'll

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come up with the answer. Nine fifteen pm we continued

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our stakeout on the bungalow on South Bronson Avenue. A

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little more than an hour passed when we saw the

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lights go out in the house. The suspect, Jeff Allen,

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came out the front door, locked up, got in his

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car and drove off. Ben and I followed him. He

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drove directly to the bar on North Ferris Avenue, the

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thirteen twenty two club. He parked his car and went inside.

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Ben and I drove back to the cottage on South

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Bronson and let ourselves in through the back door. A

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preliminary check of the house failed to give us any

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real proof that Allan was the suspect we wanted. The

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only possible lead we came up with was an expensive

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hunting rifle, which we found stored away in one of

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the closets. We copied down the serial number on the gun,

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drove to a neighborhood's cigar store, called the office and

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asked him to check out the number for us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, Marph, we'll wait for the call.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, how'd you do?

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna check it through now that call us good.

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Speaker 4: I'm a little hungry, aren't you? Do you like candy bar?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm getting a little tired of moun't mind the

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square meal out. My back's killing me. Never been to

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soaring my life.

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Speaker 4: What's the matter, you fall?

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Speaker 5: No, nothing like that. It's my snoring.

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Speaker 4: Again, snoring? What's that got to do with it?

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Speaker 5: Almost broke my back. It's a wife's idea. She claims

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that I'm sleeping, I roll over on my back and

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snores as he keeps your awake all night.

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Speaker 4: There's not much you can do about it, is it?

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Speaker 5: Eyah? The wife sawt of something supposed to be an

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ald home remedy. She sewed a couple of golf balls

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right into the back of my pajamas. You get the

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idea behind it. If you roll over on your back,

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the golf balls dig into you and you have to

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roll over on your side again.

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Speaker 4: That'll see what happened to you.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm a sound sleeper, rolled over on my back

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and stayed there, slept on those golf balls all night,

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woke up in the morning and like to have died.

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But like I snapped a couple of vertebrae.

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Speaker 4: It must be an easier way to keep you from

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sleeping on your back.

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Speaker 5: Uh, I wouldn't do any good anyhow, George just won't work.

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I snowed just as loud sleeping on my side.

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Speaker 4: I get it. Hello, yahmer is Joe Friday.

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Speaker 7: W six three four four?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? That checks? That was a serial in Lamorn? When

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was that?

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Speaker 5: Huh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Y'all camer Thanks bye. I think maybe we got

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a break. Yeah, they got to make on the gun

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we found, is it registered Dallen? No, it was taken

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in a burglary two months ago.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to dragnet authentic stories of your police

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force in action.

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Speaker 4: Tuesday night, April seventeenth, ten thirty eight pm, we got

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additional information from the office on the hunting rifle that

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we'd found in the bungalow to which we trailed the suspect,

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Jefferson Allen, a few hours earlier.

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Speaker 7: The gun was.

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Speaker 4: Registered to a mister Robert Lsal thirty oh eight Bush Street.

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The rifle, along with three hundred dollars in jewelry and

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forty eight dollars in cash, had been taken from LaSalle's

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home two months before during his family's absence. The burglar's

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method of operation matched Allen's alleged MO. Exactly ten forty

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five PM. After arranging for a stakeout to be placed

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on the bungalow on Bronson Avenue, Ben and I drove

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to the thirteen twenty two club on North Ferris, where

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we located the suspect, jeff Allen.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, that's correct, sergeant. I'm from back in Michigan originally.

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I've been out here about six months now. I think

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I'm gonna like it. Sure can't beat this weather. You've

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been working here at the bory ever since you got

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in town? Is that right? No, not quite. I've been

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here for about four months. Kind of a handyman job.

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I helped the bartender when I can keep the storeroom

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in order see everything ship shaped?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: Uh? Have you ever been in Los Angeles before, Allen?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just once before, a couple of years ago. It

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wasn't so good. Then. Jobs were hard to get I

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ran into a little bit of trouble. Finally went back

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east again.

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Speaker 4: I see, what was this trouble you had?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 5: As I say, jobs were pretty hard to come by then.

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I kept checking around, but I couldn't find anything. When

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so good. I finally got picked up on a bag

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charge and spent a couple of weeks at the county.

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When I got out, I figured the best thing was

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head back east again. A lot better this time though,

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I'm doing okay. See, I couldn't get you anything. No,

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there's something maybe you'd like to talk to me about,

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anything I can help you with. It's a routine checkup.

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Speaker 7: We're on.

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Speaker 5: Got a few more questions for you, if you don't mind,

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for sure, let's take one of these booths back here. Huh,

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might as well be comfortable?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, go ahead?

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Speaker 7: You sure I couldn't got you anything?

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Speaker 5: A bottle of beer or coke? Maybe? No, you have

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your family out here with you all and your wife. No,

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I'm not married. Sorry, and I haven't taken the plunge yet.

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Figure there's plenty of time for that. Hard enough to

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keep myself going these days, let alone a family. Yeah,

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I know what you mean.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever been arrested before, Alan, I mean, other

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than that bag charge you mentioned, you ever served any

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big time Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Matter of fact, I have back in Michigan. Pretty dumb trick.

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I got in trouble as a kid, burglary served all

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my time, though I don't know my day. I'm washed

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up with that stuff a long time ago. It just

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doesn't pay that so.

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Speaker 4: Uh. Then that last time there was any trouble was

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that vague charge? Is that it?

472
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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, that's it. As I say, I'm all washed

473
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up with that stuff. It doesn't pay off at all.

474
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I got wise to that. Mm hm. Lead to hear it, Allen,

475
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And you figure you're going to stay on here, then

476
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make this your permanent home. Yeah, I think I might.

477
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It's sure like the weather job suits me too. Boss

478
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even lets me use his car once in a while.

479
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Were you nice? Huh?

480
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Speaker 4: Yeah? Where are you living now? You got an apartment

481
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in the neighborhood here?

482
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got an apartment, a nice little place. Not

483
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exactly in the neighborhood, though, it's out in West Hollywood,

484
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right on a bus line. No trouble getting into work.

485
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It's a small apartment or abouts in West Hollywood. You

486
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mind giving us the address? Oh, it's on Norwich Avenue.

487
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Why do yes, It's part of this routine check. We

488
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have to make you mind very much if we drive

489
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out there with you. I don't look the place over. No,

490
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I don't mind. I mean if you figure I need

491
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checking out, I just assume clear it up now. I

492
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got nothing to hide. Do you want me to get

493
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my coat?

494
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Speaker 4: No, it's all right.

495
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Speaker 5: Say I should be back here in an hour or so.

496
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What do you think I mean, it's just a route

497
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tea check. It won't take long with.

498
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Speaker 4: Them, No, not too long. I suppose you can figure

499
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that better than weekend.

500
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Speaker 5: How do you mean he.

501
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Speaker 4: Said you had nothing to hide? Eleven twenty pm we

502
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drove the suspect, Jeff Allen, to his apartment on Norwich Avenue.

503
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It was more than two and a half miles from

504
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the bungalow on South Bronson where we followed Alan earlier

505
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that night, and where we located the stolen hunting rifle.

506
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While Ben and I made a thorough check of the apartment.

507
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Allan sat relaxed in an easy chair. Ben and I

508
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covered everything in the apartment, but there was no evidence

509
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of any loot taking in the burglaries.

510
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Speaker 5: That's about it. Joe checked everything. Okay, that's about it.

511
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I sergeant, you fellas want a beer before we go

512
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back to the club.

513
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Speaker 4: Just one or two more questions, Allan than I. Anything

514
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will wash this thing up.

515
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Speaker 5: Sure sertain.

516
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Speaker 4: Do you rent some other place in town? Another house

517
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or an apartment?

518
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Speaker 5: Maybe another place? No, why would I do that? This

519
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is my apartment. This is where I live. Why do

520
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you ask that?

521
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Speaker 4: About six o'clock to night, you were seen going into

522
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a bungalow over on South Bronson, the same neighborhood as

523
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a club where you work. We got a pretty good idea.

524
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This quite a bit of loot from burglary store in

525
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that house.

526
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Speaker 5: I don't follow his sergeant. I don't know what you mean.

527
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I don't live on South Bronson. I live here. You

528
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ought to be able to tell that you were seen

529
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going into the bungalow alan About five minutes past six tonight,

530
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we found a stolen hunting raffle in the house. It

531
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was taken in a burglary. You think you want to

532
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tell us about No, I can't tell you anything about it.

533
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I don't have any bungalow on South Bronson. I'm not

534
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even sure I can tell you where this treet is.

535
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Speaker 4: Then you better get your hat, mister, we'll show you.

536
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Eleven forty eight pm, we got in the car and

537
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started driving down Beverly Boulevard back toward the bungalow on

538
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South Bronson Avenue. When we got to the bungalow, the

539
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suspect still refused to admit that he had a key

540
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to the door or that he was in any way

541
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concerned with the place. We had him empty his pockets,

542
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and among his possessions we found a ring of keys.

543
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We tried them on the front door of the bungalow.

544
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The fourth when we tried opened it, we went inside.

545
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Alan still would admit nothing. Ben contacted the landlady next

546
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door and she said she'd be right over. I continued

547
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questioning him while Ben checked through the house again.

548
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Speaker 5: Hey, Joel, yo, you want to come back here. I

549
00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:03,960
think we've got some.

550
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 4: All right, Ben? You want to go ahead back here?

551
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: Ellen?

552
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Speaker 5: Sure? Okay? I still can't tell you what the score is.

553
00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:11,799
So I don't belong in this place. It ain't mine.

554
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 4: What key you head? Seemed to fit the front door?

555
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,200
All right?

556
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,279
Speaker 5: How do you figure that that doesn't mean anything? I

557
00:24:16,279 --> 00:24:18,559
had that key for years. I think it's a skeleton

558
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,920
key opens almost any kind of life down here, Joe,

559
00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:23,599
small basement here leads right down off the kitch. All right,

560
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:33,160
go ahead, Allen, have a look, Joe. Line of cupboards

561
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,079
all the way around here. Check them for yourself. Yeah,

562
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,039
it's a pretty good haul.

563
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 4: Furs, machinist tools, jewelry, quite a bit of it here,

564
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,680
A couple of radios, two more hunting rifles. Come on,

565
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,440
how about it, Alan, I want to save time for

566
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:54,839
all of us.

567
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,279
Speaker 5: Now, you got it wrong. Sorry, I think this isn't

568
00:24:57,279 --> 00:24:58,839
my place. I told you when I got out of

569
00:24:58,839 --> 00:25:00,480
that trouble back east, I made a my mind. I

570
00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:02,839
was all washed up with this kind of stuff. This

571
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,680
house is mine. I haven't got anything to do with it.

572
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You're a kid and yourself, Allan, you know that. Oh

573
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:09,359
you got it all wrong, you got it all mixed up. Well,

574
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we'll let the landlady tell.

575
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Speaker 4: Us the woman who owns this house. She's on her

576
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way over from next door. She ought to be able

577
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to tell us who she ranted the place to. Wouldn't

578
00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:22,200
you say so? Wouldn't you?

579
00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 5: She might be wrong? It's possible now.

580
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 4: Look we got you did the right to mister, why

581
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:27,240
not face it?

582
00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 5: Can't? I won't do it. I made up my mind

583
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,319
the last time it wouldn't happen again. I was all

584
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washed up with it. I won't go through it again.

585
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,960
They will send me back and we'll be able to

586
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,880
take it. Maybe you should have figured that before you

587
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,000
started in. I didn't mean too. I was all washed

588
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up with that stuff. I told you that the first

589
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time I saw you. Didn't I know sure of it too.

590
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:54,759
I wouldn't try it again, didn't pay. It's just what

591
00:25:54,839 --> 00:25:55,960
I told you. I'm all through with it, and I

592
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,920
washed up with it. I never lied to you, did

593
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,720
I what's the difference? Humph, you lie to yourself.

594
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Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true. The names

595
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were changed to protect the innocent.

596
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Speaker 3: On July sixth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department

597
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eighty sixth, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.

598
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In a moment, the results of that trial, the apprehension

599
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,720
of the suspect, Jefferson Herald Allan, resulted in clearing twenty

600
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two cases of burglaries committed over the past four months.

601
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Allan was indicted on twenty two counts of first degree

602
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burglary and received sentence. As prescribed by law, first degree

603
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burglary is punishable by imprisonment in the state penitentiary for

604
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not less than five years.

605
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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, only two point six patients out of

606
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every hundred reaching the most forward hospitals in Korea died later.

607
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,200
The comparable figure in World War Two was four point five.

608
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,599
According to official medical statements, The almost miraculous success in

609
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,039
saving the lives of casualties is owing in part to

610
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the prompt use of blood plasma on the battle field

611
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,279
and whole blood in military hospitals. Whole blood reduces shock

612
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:25,079
for potential killer and replaces blood lost through bleeding in

613
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:28,079
the treatment of many battle casualties. There is no substitute

614
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,119
for blood. Every American who has given blood can and

615
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,240
should feel he personally has contributed directly to the saving

616
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of the life of an American boy. This month, your

617
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,200
country is short three hundred thousand pints of blood. Please

618
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give your blood and save a life.

619
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Speaker 3: You have just heard drag met a series of authentic

620
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cases from officials. Technical advice comes from the Office of

621
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Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.

622
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Speaker 2: Today's the silver anniversary of NBC.

623
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Speaker 1: Welcome Back Our suspect. Kind of got to a point

624
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where I was like, oh, come on, Now. Certainly I

625
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,119
respect that a criminal does not have to choose to

626
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,200
incriminate him or herself, but I would have a lot

627
00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:36,960
more respect for a criminal who plams up and takes

628
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,880
the fifth rather than continuing on with the lame denials.

629
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I mean, when they got to the point where they

630
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,000
were going to bring the landlady over and he was like, well,

631
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:51,039
she could be mistaken before she even identified him, I

632
00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:54,799
was like, oh, come on. And kind of the same

633
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,680
thing with his insistence that, you know, his statement that

634
00:28:59,799 --> 00:29:03,279
he was done with that after he got out of prison,

635
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:09,599
which they were supposed to take as something that indicated

636
00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:13,960
his good intentions. But I have so much trouble buying that. Now.

637
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,160
Let's be clear, there are crimes that you can commit

638
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,480
on a whim. You know, you get back into the

639
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:26,480
wrong sort of environment and you make a bad choice

640
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,440
and you can find yourself committing a similar crime, re offending.

641
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:37,599
But burglary is such a premedicated crime. You don't just

642
00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:41,200
randomly burglarize the place. You've got to make sure that

643
00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:45,400
it's worth burglarizing, and you've also got to make sure

644
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:49,559
that it's a place that you can access without being

645
00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:53,680
easily detected. So I don't like a criminal who insults

646
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,279
our intelligence, which I kind of feel like it did.

647
00:29:56,519 --> 00:29:59,519
All right, Listener comments and feedback now, and we have

648
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a couple comments on Spotify regarding the Big Lease Mechanics.

649
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Sixty six rites after hearing Harry Bartel try a Mexican accent,

650
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I'm glad he didn't try a French accent on that

651
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:17,480
escape episode with Jack Webb as an OSS agent. And

652
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,039
then Harrison says she might have been a criminal, but

653
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at least she could properly pronounce Julio credit where credit

654
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is due, I guess, and then Lucifer Sam says, hey, Adam,

655
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Joe says, all we know are the facts, ma'am at

656
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the twenty minute mark. I think that's the closest I've

657
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heard to just the facts, man. Yeah, And of course

658
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I think it's a very different context because in that case,

659
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he was explaining their investigation. But the framing and it

660
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comes I think from the Sanfrey Bert parody, and the

661
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way it gets interpreted is that that's something that Joe

662
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Friday says when questioning witnesses, and it's not. And I mean,

663
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I think there are two things I hate about that idea.

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Number one, it's route and second is that I think

665
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it's a bad way to question witnesses because the witnesses

666
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and one thing that I think you do hear from Dragnet,

667
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:24,119
and I think it's a very good lesson, is that

668
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:29,039
not everyone understands what the pertinent facts are, and there

669
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are details that are going to be forgotten, particularly if

670
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you sit there and you rush the witness. And where

671
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they tend to have some success is by questioning the witness,

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letting them tell the story as they experienced it, asking

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follow up questions and then if and there are sometimes

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where a witness just goes completely off the rails, where

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we have gone so far from any sort of relevant

676
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,839
that they need to get them back on track. And

677
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so what Friday will say in that instance is, oh,

678
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that's very interesting, ma'am. But now I'd like to talk

679
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:16,039
a little bit more about the car you saw? Could

680
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you tell us? And then pushes it back towards what's relevant.

681
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But I appreciate the comment and the opportunity to go

682
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on more about why I don't like that iconic phrase

683
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,559
that is associated with one of my favorite programs, but

684
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,519
was never actually setting it. All Right, now, let's go

685
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ahead and thank our Patreon supporter of the day, and

686
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I want to thank Lisa, Patreon supporter since August twenty

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twenty five, currently supporting the podcast at the shawmut level

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of four dollars or more per month. Thanks so much

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for your support, Lisa. That will do it for today.

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If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your

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back next Thursday with another episode of right Net. But

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join us back here tomorrow for yours truly, Johnny at.

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Speaker 10: All or where it just happens that right now I

696
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can use a few extra Bucks's quite a few, so

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what's the deal.

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Speaker 11: Well, as a matter of fact, I hadn't thought in

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terms of anyth on this one.

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Speaker 9: Thoughts. Will pay whatever expenses you.

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Speaker 10: Mean, sir, Oh, you trust me with my expense account, Fritz,

702
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are you kidding?

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Speaker 9: Of course not?

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Speaker 10: Okay, Then, now that we understand each other, what's the problem,

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a rother?

706
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Speaker 9: Who's the problem? John Wakefield Edwards?

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Speaker 4: Never hear of him?

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Speaker 10: No, I can't say that I have retired business man

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another goose, I think it was.

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Speaker 9: He lived just outside of Almondy in New York. So

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what's happened to him? Well, nothing that I know of.

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Speaker 11: There's a lot of insurance with its, including a straight

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life policy worth one hundred and sixty five thousands.

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Speaker 9: How old is you, Fritz? In his late sixties? His

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wife died well three or four years ago.

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Speaker 10: Then who's a beneficiary?

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Speaker 9: Is adopted daughter of Maryland? And how old is she?

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In her late twenty She's a very attractive girl. Then

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who cares about a flea?

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Speaker 10: Let's I take you sam Andy, Johnny.

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Speaker 9: You probably won't even see her? Oh why not? But

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she lives and works over in Troy. Uh, well, what's

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happening to me? All man?

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Speaker 11: Well, they called me a few minutes ago and asked,

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or rather demandi, did I send you over to.

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Speaker 9: See him immediately? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 11: He wouldn't say what he did say though, just before

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he hung up is that under no circumstances that you

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to let her know that you're coming.

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Speaker 10: M Berlin, I was aused so M I wonder so Johnny, I.

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Speaker 1: Hope you'll be with us then. In the meantime, do

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send your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot Now,

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your host, Adam Graham signing off.