WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.879 I feel like we've accomplished something today, because sometimes you know, 2 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:09.160 when it's July and it's ninety two degrees out and 3 00:00:09.199 --> 00:00:12.679 it's good gearless biking weather, we can get ck to 4 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:13.320 pop up. 5 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:15.919 It has what, it has a gear, It has a gear. 6 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:18.559 It has a single gear, but it has one. So 7 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:20.640 I guess saying gearless is single. 8 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:22.239 Speed is what we call them in the in the 9 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:24.440 parlance of our hipster biking community. 10 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:26.839 I thought the hipster bike has zero gears. You need 11 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:30.440 a gear, You need a gear. Okay, so one gear, 12 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:33.119 single speed, a single speed bike. Okay. Anyway, I always 13 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:34.479 thought it was a gearless bike. 14 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:37.960 Fixed gear is the one is the hips iss Okay. 15 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:40.240 See, I'm learning. I need to learn because I'm old 16 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:41.880 and I'm not hit. But I think I feel like 17 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:43.320 it's an upset to get you out of the house 18 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:44.000 in January. 19 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:47.159 Well it's not January, it's late October. 20 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:50.200 Feels like it. Yeah, it's nice, it's still win or break. 21 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:53.359 My wife is home and as you know, the the 22 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:56.799 little gremlin, it takes up a lot of time. So 23 00:00:57.520 --> 00:00:59.960 usually if I have the free time, I tell Port. 24 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:02.200 I was like, yeah, let's get in. Well, I appreciate 25 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:03.560 chop it up. I appreciate it. 26 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:06.400 We were talking about your New Year's Eve experience and 27 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:08.239 you were in bedter early because you were working. 28 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:11.560 I mean I technically wasn't working on New Year's Eve. 29 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:14.920 I was working New Year's Day, but I was in 30 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:17.280 southern California earlier this week for the Rose Bowl. I 31 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:20.680 was in charge of covering Organ's playoff run, which was 32 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:25.439 extremely short lived. It was, but luckily I was able 33 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:27.400 to go to the Lakers Cavs game in l a 34 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:29.719 first time at the at the Crypt is what they 35 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:32.519 call it the Crypt now Staple Center, but it's now 36 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:37.239 it's Crypto something arena, but it's the Crypt. Got to see, uh, 37 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:41.439 the Kobe statue, which was really cool, the other statues 38 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:43.799 as well. It's a really nice place. It's a really 39 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:47.159 nice and I know, like the Delta Center is nice 40 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:50.560 as well. But I grew up going to kind of 41 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:54.159 crappy arenas, like going up to growing up going to 42 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:59.079 the the Oracle in Oakland, which is now a crypt 43 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:01.719 and that the Center was nice, but you know, it 44 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:03.799 kind of felt on hard times. But since it's been 45 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:06.719 redone in the last five years, it's it's up to par. 46 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:08.120 Uh. But it was. 47 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:11.199 It was an interesting experience. Cool seeing Lebron you know, 48 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:13.400 ran into my guy Donovan, dapped him up a little bit. 49 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:16.639 You saw you saw a guy, Donnie. I saw him 50 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:18.879 from a very far fair enough, fair enough, but you 51 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:21.919 did You didn't approach him to say what's happening? No, No, 52 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:24.000 I don't think he would remember me. Yeah, fair enough. 53 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:28.319 Quinn Snyder in town on Tuesday, the Atlanta Hawks, y? Yeah, yeah, 54 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:30.439 Hawks in town on Tuesday. Let me ask you, but 55 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:33.520 we're gonna do mostly football, but do it that has 56 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:36.639 That was kind of your first NBA in arena experience 57 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:37.479 in a minute. 58 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:41.159 The only NBA minutes I've watched this year, even on television. 59 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:43.400 How was like I was talking about this last week. 60 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:45.879 We had a topic like the best in person sporting 61 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:49.000 experience For me, it's an NFL game. Like NFL, they 62 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:52.879 just do it right. What was the in arena NBA 63 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:55.000 experience like for you? It was nice? 64 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:56.400 I mean I think it helped that there was a 65 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:58.280 little bit of buzz because it was New Year's Eve, 66 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:00.280 big game, two great. I mean, the best team in 67 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:03.680 the NBA. Lebron played, Bronni didn't play, which is a 68 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:07.840 huge bummer. For me, but it was a decently close 69 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:12.080 game off and on, but Cleveland's too good. And the 70 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:15.800 the in person experience was cool because anytime you're watching 71 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:19.280 a legend like Lebron, people kind of get juiced. So 72 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:21.479 anytime he did something, people would just go out of 73 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:23.080 their mind. And he had a good game. And I 74 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.240 think it was his first game after turning forty as well. 75 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:29.400 They him they saying happy birthday on the on the JumboTron, 76 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:32.280 and he did the heart heart sign to the fans 77 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:35.080 and then did I Love La all the all the typical. 78 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:37.879 Stuff you would do, and as in late thirties, I 79 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:40.240 just pulled my back, sleeping guy. What he's doing at 80 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:42.400 forty is unequivocally impressive. 81 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:46.360 I mean, yes, as as somebody who is in his 82 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:50.000 age arena, but not in the competitive arena. It is 83 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:53.439 it is not out of the realm of possibility to think. 84 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:55.039 I think he said recently that he thinks he could 85 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:58.240 play till like forty seven or forty eight. I mean, 86 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:00.680 if he can avoid injury. Sure, I mean, the dude 87 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:03.960 is still like throwing down dunks and he looks like 88 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:07.280 he's in better shape at forty maybe I mean less 89 00:04:07.319 --> 00:04:10.080 bulk and maybe that makes sense to avoid injury. But 90 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.400 he looks like he's in better overall shape at forty 91 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:13.520 than he was at like twenty five. 92 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:16.439 Yeah, there's something about Lebron that is entirely on authentic 93 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:19.519 and corny, you know, like he's wrapping Kendrick Lamar at 94 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:21.959 his birthday party and sending that out or whatever. But 95 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:28.040 he really has taught this generation on as far as habits, 96 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:30.360 to take care of yourself and take care of your body. 97 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:33.839 He spends and your mentals too, Yeah, I mean, like, yes, 98 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:34.480 I agree with you. 99 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:37.600 Spend's a tremendous amount of money on his physical health 100 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:40.120 and the old saying a healthy man wants a million things, 101 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:41.279 a sick man only wants one. 102 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:44.680 Well, I was at the game with Bill oorm Our, buddy, 103 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:46.959 he used to shut up. Bill work at the Tribune 104 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.240 and it is now the calmness at the Oregonian. He 105 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:51.639 was in town obviously for the Rose Bowl as well, 106 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:53.720 but spent a number of the years covering the Lakers. 107 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:56.879 And I said, Bill, why does Lebron always sit? He 108 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:59.480 sits on like a higher he has like a thing. 109 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:01.959 And Bill's like, I don't know, and I'm like Dude, 110 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:04.040 you covered this guy for like five years and you 111 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:06.240 never asked him why he sits on like this old 112 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:09.480 man pad failure by Bill, I said, I assume it 113 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:11.519 has to do with some sort of backing, sure, or 114 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:15.399 I mean you got the back as you know, if 115 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:19.040 it's out, yeah you're out. You're out of commission for 116 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:20.560 a long Yes time. 117 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:20.720 It is. 118 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:24.920 I think objectively, it is the scariest body part to 119 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:26.800 injure as you get older. 120 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:30.000 Pat Riley's old saying was back problems change your personality. 121 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:34.040 Oh yeah, because they do rib injury. I'm dealing with 122 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:37.079 a torn rotator cuff telling you, man, you just wait. 123 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:39.839 You know you're getting there. Yeah, but that's cool you 124 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:43.879 had that experience, all right. So Oregon's playoff run was 125 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:48.360 short lived. That's just I don't know, man, that felt really. 126 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:50.680 If I'm an organ fan, I feel hard done because 127 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:53.040 I won my conference. I won every game, and I 128 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:57.399 heard I mean, you know, me grinding on tape. But honestly, 129 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:00.680 and I was talked about this yesterday. Because everything in 130 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.560 college athletics is so new, I've kind of leaned into 131 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:07.639 the whole like diagnostic approach on the radio instead of 132 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:10.160 like prognosticating because it's hard to know what this is 133 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:11.560 going to look like. We're all going through it for 134 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:15.800 the first time, and it just feels like Ohio State 135 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.519 all year long was talked about as a team that 136 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:22.319 when they're playing at their best, they're the best team 137 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:25.240 in the country. And I understand the way that the 138 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:28.480 conferences went out in Ohio State with a horrible home 139 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:30.240 loss to Michigan. The seating is what it is. But 140 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:32.800 if you're Oregon, you're a fan, and our reward is 141 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:34.879 Ohio State. The first time we have a chance to play, 142 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:36.600 you feel a little hard done, don't you. You do? 143 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:40.079 But you also have to realize that there is always 144 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:43.199 going to be a plethora of wartz in this system 145 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.399 because it's impossible to figure out. Somebody is always going 146 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:48.639 to have a gripe and it's a bummer, but it 147 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:51.720 is what it is. Man Like, I sat on press 148 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:53.199 row with a bunch of people who are a lot 149 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:56.199 smarter than me, sat next to Bruce Feldman, Ari Wasserman, 150 00:06:56.279 --> 00:06:58.079 my good buddy was down the way, and this was 151 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.480 just a topic of conversation for most of the day. 152 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:04.519 And Cam tig Robinson, who actually covers Ohio State for 153 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:07.360 the Athletic brought up a great point. He's like, the 154 00:07:07.399 --> 00:07:09.839 one thing that could have fixed this is if Penn 155 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:13.879 State in Ohio State were the other seed, Oregon should 156 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:17.480 have been playing potentially Penn State and not Ohio State. 157 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:17.920 For sure. 158 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:20.040 Yeah, I understand that Penn State made the Big Ten 159 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:24.439 title game. I understand the way things shake out. They 160 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:26.399 just have to figure out by they the committee has 161 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:31.079 to figure out a way to not necessarily overload a 162 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:34.040 side of the bracket, which they unfortunately did this year. 163 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:36.319 And like we talked about a few weeks ago, I mean, 164 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:38.360 Oregon got the Group of Death. Even if they would 165 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:41.600 have won, You're going to Arlington to play Dallas. And 166 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:44.000 to your point, I mean, Ohio State's the best team 167 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.360 in the country, the deepest team in the country, easy, 168 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:50.279 hands down. It's not even close. We talk about rivalry 169 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:51.959 games and what they can bring out of you the 170 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:54.360 best of the worst. Michigan has not brought out the 171 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:56.079 best in Ohio State the last four years. They're on 172 00:07:56.120 --> 00:08:00.959 a four games, kid, but that doesn't like take away 173 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:02.839 from the fact that they're the deepest team in the country. 174 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:05.920 And it's corny, man, but like you want to be 175 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:08.759 playing your best football at this time of year, especially 176 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:10.759 as the as the season can be as long as 177 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:12.800 seventeen games, as it will be the case for Ohio 178 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:16.879 State this year. And I'm of the mind that the 179 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:20.800 way the game played out, I think Oregon has a 180 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:23.720 gripe but like when you get your breaks, you know, 181 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:27.240 beat off the way they did, like it's I mean, 182 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:29.519 it was thirty four to nothing in the second quarter, Spence. 183 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:31.319 Yeah, and they did settle in. I don't know how 184 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:33.639 much of that as Ohio State going this is over, 185 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:38.240 but honestly, watching the way Ohio State overwhelmed Oregon, I 186 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:40.200 wondered if any other team in the country could have 187 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:42.120 even made it as close as Oregon did. The rest 188 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:44.399 of the way just felt like such an unfair fight, 189 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:47.600 and Oregon was really impressive all year. I guess that 190 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:49.519 just speaks to Ohio State. It does. 191 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:51.639 But I think one thing that maybe a lot of 192 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:54.919 us overlooked is the fact that every good team Oregon 193 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.639 played this year they barely beat them. They still beat them, 194 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:01.720 barely beat Boise State at home, barely beat. 195 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:03.720 Ohio State at home. 196 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:06.840 If Will Howard doesn't awkwardly side and lose track of time, 197 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:09.279 you don't know how that game ends. Yea, and barely 198 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:11.200 be Penn State in the Big Ten title game and 199 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:14.000 gave up five hundred and sixty yards of total offense 200 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:17.720 to a decently talented Penn State team, but not like 201 00:09:17.799 --> 00:09:20.279 a world beater by any means. So I do think 202 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:23.919 there were some alarm bells along the way, but they 203 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:31.480 won every game, so Ohio State made them look pedestrian 204 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:34.399 at best, to say the least. And listen, man, I 205 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:35.879 mean they had the best player in the field, who's 206 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:40.600 an eighteen year old kid. I mean it was, and 207 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:43.639 like they have Chip Kelly calling their offense. I'm not 208 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:47.159 saying you have a guy who a much maligned head 209 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:49.519 coach and Ryan Day, who the fan base is very 210 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:51.879 upset at because he's lost four games in a row 211 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:54.000 against their arch rival. I get it, but this the 212 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:57.600 record is still insane. It's like sixty six and seven 213 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:00.240 or something or whatever. You might be able to it 214 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:02.600 up and then you hire Chip Kelly and you have 215 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:03.960 all these offensive weapons. 216 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:05.559 Sixty eight and ten sixty and. 217 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:10.000 Four of those losses have been to Michigan. I get it, 218 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:13.919 and Michigan won last year. But it's like, listen man, 219 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:16.440 there's a reason why everybody was kind of up in 220 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:18.840 arms when they figured out the number that Ohio State 221 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:21.080 was able to spend on money wise on this team. 222 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:26.399 And you think of players like Jeremiah Smith, Cale Downs, 223 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:28.399 the kid they got from Alabama. A lot of people 224 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:30.960 were skeptical about Will Howard coming from Kansas State, and 225 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:32.600 he's had his best two games of the year at 226 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:36.519 the most important point of the year. So I just 227 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:38.919 don't know if we're ever going to have a playoff 228 00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:42.399 where somebody's not feeling betrayed in some sense. 229 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:46.039 So at some point, maybe I've already reached the point 230 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:47.639 of no return. I'm sure people are going to be 231 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:50.519 so tired of be leading into the same narrative. I 232 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:53.960 just don't know of an issue that plagues college football 233 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:57.120 that can't be solved with a professional model. Nobody belly 234 00:10:57.159 --> 00:10:59.919 aches about the way the NFL crowns their chant, right, 235 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:04.159 So you know, it's conferences, it's divisions. Now, some people 236 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:06.480 at times don't love the division things. So you win 237 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:08.600 eight games, you win a crappy division and you get 238 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:10.360 a home field or you know. 239 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:13.480 The NFC South. This year, the Buccaneers will win and 240 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:14.240 they'll get a home game. 241 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:18.200 Yea, but you don't hear the same amount of belly aching. 242 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:21.399 So Joel Klatt, his whole idea is to lean into that. 243 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:24.879 You know, we'll just use the SEC in the Big 244 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:27.519 Ten and they'll invite whoever they want to invite, and 245 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:29.720 hopefully it's our local schools. And then there are two 246 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:32.440 conferences and divisions, and then you follow the pro model, 247 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:35.879 a playoff model, and Clatt's ideas to make the Rose 248 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.600 Bowl the super Bowl of college football. Do you think 249 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:40.679 there's any meat on that bone. 250 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:42.559 I mean, I don't know. He would know better than me. 251 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:44.799 I think it makes sense to have every championship game there. 252 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:48.200 There's no reason why, I guess. I will say there 253 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:52.600 are other cities around the country that really, I would 254 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:55.399 assume provide a lot of tax breaks to, you know, 255 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:58.600 people who want to come and really descend on the city. 256 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:02.639 I mean, you think in places like Atlanta, Miami Fiend 257 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:05.039 and Glendale area like these are all places that pretty 258 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:09.679 much also managed to host like NCAA Men's and women's final. 259 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:10.320 Fours as well. 260 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:13.399 I would like I would always like the Rose Bowl 261 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:15.559 to be the last game of the year. It was 262 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:17.440 my second time there. It just makes sense. It's an 263 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:21.120 old stadium, but it's perfect. It's like the scene is unreal. 264 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:25.000 People are there at like six am, and whoever is 265 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:27.320 in that theoretical title game, people will show up and 266 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:27.759 show out. 267 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:30.440 Yeah, and look, there are several issues here because as 268 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.919 you're talking through cities not wanting to give up those games. 269 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:36.960 Also this, and maybe you have some insight here. I 270 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:41.320 believe every specific bowl is its own business entity and 271 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.679 employees a lot of different people. Correct, So the Orange 272 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.080 Bowl employees are good. Wait like, wait a second, now 273 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:46.799 I don't have a job. 274 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:52.759 Yeah, no, it's it's hard. In my opinion, an ideal format, 275 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:56.159 at least from a schedule standpoint, is next year that 276 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:58.320 got to have the quarters be at home sites. 277 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:01.000 I totally agree college football should be played on campus. 278 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:04.799 I think I think semis and final. You can make 279 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:07.279 an argument that it's at a neutral site because that 280 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:10.879 way you can satisfy all the major bowls. If you 281 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:15.200 just sugar, Orange, Rose, so on and so forth of cotton, 282 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:18.159 you can find a way to satisfy those folks. But 283 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:24.200 it's it. I feel like it would make for better games. 284 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:26.519 I feel like it would make for a better atmosphere. 285 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:28.440 I mean, everybody that I talked to that were at 286 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:30.639 the first round game said it was insane. They said, like, 287 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:34.960 South Bend was awesome, you know, State College was awesome. 288 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:39.000 You got to and you have to give those those 289 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:42.799 guys that earn those seeds a chance to Like, I 290 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:45.919 would make the argument that having a home game, even 291 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:50.039 if it's against in Ohio State, is maybe better than 292 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:56.360 potentially drawing a theoretically less impressive opponent, because you're never 293 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:58.679 going to figure out who, like the committee's never going 294 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:00.000 to satisfy everyone's issue. 295 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:00.919 Is that right? Right? 296 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.960 But if you can, home field advantage is generally in 297 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:07.120 college football, the most ideal home field advantage for somebody 298 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:07.679 who's earned it. 299 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:09.559 Yeah, I agree with that, And I also just think 300 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:12.879 college football should be played on campuses whenever possible. I mean, 301 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:14.759 that's one of the things that make it make it great. 302 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:17.200 One of the other things that make it great and unique, 303 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:21.159 even juxtaposed to pro football, is every weekend is urgent, 304 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:25.480 every weekend is intense, Every weekend is paramount. I mean, 305 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:28.720 you can stub your toe once, maybe twice, and then 306 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:32.399 after that you're cooked. And what we have now are 307 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:35.720 four teams left. None of whom won their conference. None 308 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:37.720 of them had a first round by and it's interesting 309 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:40.759 that you were in Pasadena. Like I mean, Bruce Feldman 310 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:42.879 is as in my opinion, as good as it gets 311 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:44.960 in covering the sport. I'd love to get already on 312 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:47.399 the show. We've had Bruce a couple of times. I 313 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:49.879 wonder what the conversation is about whether or not we 314 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:52.440 have diluted the regular season, whether or not these auto 315 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:55.360 you know the first round byes are the right way 316 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:56.720 to go, And do you think there are gonna be 317 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:01.039 changes coming after all the complaining. I don't know. 318 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:04.759 I mean, like I said, those folks are way more 319 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:06.679 plugged in and a lot smarter than I am. I 320 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:10.840 think the committee will have to put their heads together 321 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:14.879 and take notes, Like you'll have to do an exit survey, 322 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:16.399 though maybe I'll have to call your guy Raye. 323 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:18.039 Get a qualtric survey. 324 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:21.159 Going to figure out what worked in the minds of 325 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:26.120 people who participated this year and who didn't. It's tricky 326 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:28.720 with twelve man. I think with eight it could be 327 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:31.399 pretty easy to figure out, but you add four more 328 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:34.159 teams in the mix, I think it's difficult. They have 329 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:37.080 to figure out, Like it's a bummer that all our 330 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:40.519 West Coast teams lost in the quarters man because then 331 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:44.559 it plays into the narrative of it just means more, 332 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:47.799 and ball means more in places that everywhere else in 333 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:52.039 the country says it means more. I get it, But 334 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:54.240 I think there's a lot of people that say Arizona 335 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:56.759 State and Boise State didn't deserve a first round by 336 00:15:57.240 --> 00:16:02.480 and some of those arguments have merit, but I think 337 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:06.440 I don't know. This goes back to our conversations about 338 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:08.519 nil and everything. It's like, if you just had the 339 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:13.039 right people in place to like take information, absorb it 340 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:16.440 and apply it and have it be functional, it seems 341 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:18.840 like it would make sense. But college football and the 342 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:21.480 NCAA is incapable of doing so well. 343 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:23.679 They're gonna have to Well. It's funny because I do 344 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:28.360 think at some point, you know, the right people central leadership, 345 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:32.440 and I honestly believe it will follow private equity money. 346 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:34.399 I think it's going to follow venture capitalist money. I 347 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:36.679 think we're going to see powerful rich people get involved, 348 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:38.639 and then it's going to be up to the public 349 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:41.480 if you want to follow this like neoliberal capitalism that's 350 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:43.519 going to permeate in the sports that you've loved because 351 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:45.600 it hasn't been involved before. But that's where it is 352 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:49.399 now because the players are getting paid, and once those 353 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:52.279 powerful rich people get involved in college sports, they will 354 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:54.639 not stand for a broken business model. So I think 355 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:57.440 we'll get central leadership in place at that point, and 356 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:02.120 that brings in the conversation about a tram amount of 357 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:05.640 red tape and issues because I know administrators don't want 358 00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:08.680 the athletes to be employees. I know the Taylor Randalls 359 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:10.400 of the world don't want to deal with that because 360 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:14.079 that adds a tremendous amount of headache. But at some point, 361 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:16.480 I do think the coaches are going to be the 362 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:20.440 ones that will kind of push this movement because once 363 00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:24.400 you can collectively bargain, come up with, you know, a 364 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:27.920 players terms and agreement, and then guardrails and the ability 365 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:30.480 to do actually, you know, put rules in a place, 366 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.440 things like having to rebuild every year will go out 367 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:36.680 the window because then you can sign contracts. Now, there's 368 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:39.480 a bunch of stuff with the new labor board under 369 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:42.200 Donald Trump that I'm not educated enough to kind of 370 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:45.079 walk through, but a lot of the really smart football 371 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:46.640 people that I've heard in the past say the pro 372 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:48.960 model is inevitable. Now are a little bit more skeptical. 373 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:50.119 Do you have any insight into that? 374 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:54.599 I don't, but I'm just thinking of an analogy or 375 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:59.839 an example from today. Like Organs, one of Oregon's quarterbacks 376 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:02.799 that they just signed in their December class that went 377 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:05.640 to the Rose Bowl and was part of bullprep and everything, 378 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:07.599 just jumped in the portal after being with the program 379 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:10.400 for like two weeks. Yeah, and told ESPN that he 380 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:12.799 didn't feel like he was a priority at the school. Well, 381 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:17.440 they were preparing for a quarter final of the CFP. Now, 382 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:20.880 I'm not belittling this guy. Like everyone has a reason 383 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:23.160 for doing what they want to do. But I'm with you. 384 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:25.960 It just makes sense to be able to hold people 385 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:31.319 in right spots by contractual terms and figure out things 386 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:31.720 from there. 387 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:33.720 Yeah. All right, Coming up next, we'll lean into some 388 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:36.240 of the local stuff and Chris comarad he's going to 389 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:38.880 join us for one more segment. Tony Parks rolls by later, 390 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:41.519 so does JB. Long, the voice of the Rams. Do 391 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:44.319 you get us ready for the final week slash weekend 392 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:46.440 of pro football? I want to tell you about my 393 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:48.759 friend's a clear water distilling it's the only distillery in 394 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:52.519 Utah County open on Sundays Holidays. 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