Speaker 1: Welcome to thrilling Threads. I have to tell you I
walked into the studio today with a completely different mindset
than usual. Normally, we grab a topic, maybe a historical event,
maybe a piece of new tech, and we try to
wrap our heads around it. We try to put in
a box.
Speaker 2: Right, we categorize. I mean, that is just human nature.
We like things to fit neatly into the narrative we
already understand exactly.
Speaker 1: But the stack of sources you sent me last night,
there is there is no box for this. We are
not categorizing today. We are taking a sledgehammer to the shells. Today,
we're pulling at the loose threads of reality itself to
see what unravels. And honestly, I'm a little nervous.
Speaker 2: It is certainly a departure from the mundane. The material
we are covering today is well, let's call it high
octane speculation backed by physical anomalies. It challenges the absolute
bedrock of our history.
Speaker 1: So let's set the stage for everyone listening. I want
to start with a hook that really really got me
thinking this morning.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the concept of firsts first,
like historical first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are obsessed with them. You know, you learn
in school that Neil Armstrong was the first man on
the moon. We argue over dinner about whether Columbus of
the Vikings were the first across the Atlantic. We have
this timeline in our heads, this linear arrow of progress
that puts humanity right now, in the twenty first century,
at the absolute cutting edge of everything.
Speaker 2: It is a very anthropocentric view of history. We assume
that because we are doing something now, it must be
the very first time it has ever been done. We
view history as a ladder, and we just assume we
are on the top.
Speaker 1: Wrong right, But what if the ladder is actually a wheel?
The source material for today challenges the ultimate first, the
big one. The question isn't just who discovered America? The
question is we're humans the first intelligent life on earth?
Or even are we the only intelligent like here right now?
Speaker 2: That is the core of the ancient astronaut theory. But
before people roll their eyes an immediately thing of tinfoil hats.
Our mission on Thrilling Threads today is to look at
the physical evidence. We aren't talking about blurry photos of
lights in the sky.
Speaker 1: No, no blurry weather balloons.
Speaker 2: Today exactly we are looking at geological surveys, archaeological anomalies,
and global patterns that suggest we might have had company
a long time ago, and.
Speaker 1: The part that really gave me the chills, maybe we
still do. It's not just about history, it's about the present.
I want to treat this like a campfire ghost story,
you know, but one where the ghosts have left fingerprints,
specific GPS coordinates, and like heavy mining equipment line around
a fair approach.
Speaker 2: My role here, as always, is to play the devil's
advocate and the analyst. I want to look at the
data points. We need to ask the why behind the what,
because if even ten percent or five percent even of
this material is accurate, it changes the human narrative completely.
Speaker 1: So let's unpack this. We're going to start with a rock,
but not just any rock. We are heading down to Brazil,
specifically to the Inga River, the Inga Stone. Yeah. When
I first read stone, I was picturing, you know, a boulder,
something you'd see on a hike, maybe sit on to
eat a sandwich. But I've pulled up the photos from
the sources and this thing is a wall.
Speaker 2: It is a monolith. To give you a sense of scale,
we are talking about a vertical rock formation that is
roughly one hundred and fifty feet long and twelve feet tall.
Speaker 1: Imagine half a football feel of solid rock, and it's
not jagged. Parts of it are strangely polished. But the
size isn't the weird part. It's the graffiti.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call it graffiti. The entire surface is covered
in what the source material describes as immaculate curvings. And
this is where the archaeological community starts to get very uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Because usually when you find petroglyphs in that part of
the northeast Brazil, you see a certain style, right correct.
Speaker 2: The indigenous art of that region and era typically features
zoomomorphic figures. You see jaguars, fish, birds, or perhaps ritualistic
scenes of hunting or dancing. There are representations of the
daily life and the strangual beliefs of the people.
Speaker 1: But the inga stone, I mean it looks like a
circuit board. I'm looking at these pictures and I don't
see jaguars. I see geometric shapes, I see spirals, I
see things that look like barcodes.
Speaker 2: That is the anomaly. The complexity of the symbols is
far beyond what is attributed to the cultures of that time.
There are over four hundred distinct symbols carved into the
Nice rock.
Speaker 1: And nice is hard, right, like, geologically.
Speaker 2: Speaking, incredibly hard. This wasn't scratched in with a stick
or a crude bone tool. This took serious effort and
advanced technology to carve this precisely.
Speaker 1: And here's where it gets really interesting. Researchers, specifically a
guy named Gabrielle de Nuncio Baraldi, who was referenced in
our sources, claimed to have deciphered them. And they aren't
stories about a great hunt. They're about physics and astronomy.
Speaker 2: This is the first major divergence from the standard historical narrative.
The carvings appear to depict specific constellations. The source mentions
the Southern Cross, the Milky Way, and distinctly Oriyan.
Speaker 1: Okay, play this skeptic for a second. Could it just
be art? I mean, I can look get a cloud
and see a spaceship. Is this just us projecting our
modern understanding of astronomy onto ancient abstract art.
Speaker 2: That is the question we must always ask. Perry Doolia.
Seeing patterns that aren't there However, the alignment and the
relative distances between the stars on the rock match the
astronomical charts surprisingly.
Speaker 3: Well, it's too accurate to be a doodle, right, And
you have to ask why would a primitive culture concerned
primarily with survival, rain and crops create a high fidelity
map of the.
Speaker 1: Galaxy unless someone showed them the galaxy.
Speaker 2: That is the exact inference the source material makes. In
the ancient astronaut framework, if you are visited by beings
from the stars, the stars become the most important subject matter.
Speaker 1: It totally shifts their worldview.
Speaker 2: It signals a shift from worshiping nature like the river
or the sun, to worshiping the visitors.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, if you meet a guy
from Chicago and he drawed you a map of Chicago
and says, this is where I live, you might carve
that map to remember him. You wouldn't carve a picture
of a local bird if the most important event in
your life was meeting the Chicago guy.
Speaker 2: An apt, if slightly casual analogy, but yes, the deviation
from the cultural norm choosing star maps over spirit animals
suggests a specific external influence.
Speaker 1: But it's not just the carving on the rock. It's
the rock itself, or rather where the rock is sitting.
The source mentions these spiral carvings are interpreted as vortices
of energy, and I initially thought, okay, that sounds like
New Age fluff, crystals and vibes, but then they brought
the receipts.
Speaker 2: There is physical data here. There is a proven magnetic
anomaly at the exact site of the NGOs stone. If
you take a compass there, it behaves radically. The local
electromagnetic field is distorted and if you zoom out, if
you zoom out to the macrogeography, the stone is located
within the South Atlantic Anomaly.
Speaker 1: I've heard of this. This is a real thing. NASA
tracts right. It's not just an Internet.
Speaker 2: Rumor absolutely real. It is a region where the Earth's
inner van Allen radiation belt comes closest to the Earth's surface.
It's essentially a d in the Earth's magnetic shield. Satellites
often have to shut down their sensitive instruments when passing
over this area to avoid radiation damage.
Speaker 1: So let's put this together for you guys listening. We
have a one hundred and fifty foot stone wall. It's
carved with star maps and spirals, and it is sitting
directly on top of a magnetic anomaly inside a massive
atmospheric radiation zone.
Speaker 2: It creates a very compelling coincidence.
Speaker 1: Coincidence come on, that feels like engineering. If I'm an
alien and I need a place to park, or a marker,
or I don't know, a charging station, that is.
Speaker 2: The leading theory in the source. If you were a
spacefaring civilization, you would need navigational beacons. You would map
the magnetic anomalies of.
Speaker 1: A planet because you'd use them right, perhaps.
Speaker 2: For propulsion, perhaps to harness the energy, or perhaps simply
to know where the dangerous radiation is. The connection between
the carving, the map, and the location the energy source
suggests function over form.
Speaker 1: It's a you are here sign, or maybe a warning signage.
Speaker 2: Or a refueling station. But hold that thought on refueling
because that ties into the motivation we will discuss later. First,
we need to address the fact that the Ingas Stone isn't.
Speaker 1: Isolated, right, It's not just one weird rock in Brazil exactly.
Speaker 2: It's a part of a network.
Speaker 1: This blew my mind, the world grid.
Speaker 2: This brings us to the work of Ivan T. Sanderson.
Speaker 1: I love this name, Ivan T. Sanderson. He sounds like
an adventurer from a nineteen thirties pulp novel Indiana Jones Vibes.
Speaker 2: He was actually a Scottish born biologist and a bit
of a cryptozoologist, a very colorful character. But he was
obsessed with data patterns. He didn't just look at one
weird event in isolation. He looked for global correlations.
Speaker 1: And he came up with the vile Vortices, which honestly
great branding.
Speaker 2: It is evocative. Yes, Sanderson identified twelve principal locations on
the globe where paranormal phenomena, disappearances, and magnetic anomalies occur
with a statistical significance.
Speaker 1: And the Ingastone or the South Atlantic Anomaly is one
of them.
Speaker 2: It connects to one, yes, but you know the others.
The Bermuda Triangle, the Devil Sea sometimes called the Dragon's Triangle,
south of Japan, Easter Island, the Indus Valley, and.
Speaker 1: Here is the kicker. They aren't random, like if you
just threw darts at a map, you wouldn't get this.
Speaker 2: No, if you plot these twelve locations on a globe,
they are spaced perfectly evenly. If you connect the dots,
they form an icosahedron, a geometric shape made of twenty
equilateral triangles.
Speaker 1: So nature rarely builds perfect dicosyhedrons on a planetary scale. Right,
This implies a grid, a structure.
Speaker 2: The theory is that the Earth is like a crystal.
It has geometric stress points or energy nodes. Think of
it like acupuncture points on the human body.
Speaker 1: Okay, that helps. So if the Earth has these pressure points,
Sanderson called them vile because bad stuff happens there. Planes, vanish,
ship sink compasses go crazy.
Speaker 2: Because of the intense magnetic instability. But the ancient astronaut
perspective flips that narrative completely. We look at the Bermuda
triangle and think danger, keep away. But the source suggests
that maybe maybe it's a transit system.
Speaker 1: A transit system like a cosmic subway.
Speaker 2: Imagine you have technology that we can't even dream of.
You don't use combustion engines, you use electromagnetic propulsion, or
perhaps you manipulate gravity itself. Where would you build your bases?
Speaker 1: You build them on the energy nodes. You'd build them
where the Earth is already giving you a boost. You
wouldn't put a water wheel in a dry ditch, you
put it in the rapids exactly.
Speaker 2: The Source speculates that these locations could be brought to
a higher energetic.
Speaker 1: State, meaning portals wormholes.
Speaker 2: Theoretically, in physics we talk about Einstein Rosen bridges shortcuts
through space time. To open one, you would need immense energy.
If you could harness the natural magnetic anomalies of the planet,
these vile vortices, you might be able to create a
stable corridor.
Speaker 1: So it's literally a subway system. If you enter the
turnstile and the Bermuda triangle and you pop.
Speaker 2: Out where another part of the galaxy, another universe. The
Source describes it visually as a tunnel. If you have
the tech to open the door, it's a shortcut.
Speaker 1: But if you don't have the tech, if you are
just a human in a wooden galleon or a prop
plane flying through the Bermuda triangle and the door happens
to open.
Speaker 2: You slip through and you are never seen again.
Speaker 1: Or you just get crushed by the door. That makes
so much sense in a terrifying way. We see these
places as graveyards because we're trying to walk across the
super highway with our eyes closed. Yeah, but for an
advanced civilization, it's just the on ramp.
Speaker 2: It reframes the paranormal as misunderstood physics. We see a
ship vanish and call it a ghost story. They might
see a ship vanish and say, oops, the primitives accidentally
triggered the jump gate.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's pause and look at the board here,
because we're building a massive picture. We have a star
map carved on a magnetic rock in Brazil. We have
a global grid of these magnetic spots that might be wormholes.
But the big question, the one that always nags at
me with this alien stuff, is why.
Speaker 2: Motivation? It is the key to any investigation, criminal or historical.
Speaker 1: Right, Like, if I'm an advance alien, I can go
anywhere in the universe. I have a wormhole subway. Why Earth?
Are we just a nice vacation spot? Do they like
our beaches? The source material gets surprisingly practical about this.
It's not about tourism. It's not even about scientific curiosity
like studying the local bugs.
Speaker 2: It is about work. It is about resources, specifically mining,
And to understand this we actually have to look at
the moon first.
Speaker 1: The moon okay. July twenty, nineteen sixty nine, Armstrong and Aldron,
one small step the whole world.
Speaker 2: Watching the Source makes a really poignant observation. Here. We
look at that grainy footage, the flag, the gray dust,
the footprints, and we think we did it. We left home.
We are the explorers.
Speaker 1: But the Source asks, is it arrogant to think we
were the first?
Speaker 2: The universe is roughly thirteen point eight billion years old,
The Earth is four point five billion years old. Humanity
we've been industrial for maybe two hundred years. Is it
so hard to imagine that in those billions of years
someone else stopped.
Speaker 1: By the Moon and treated it like a gas station.
Speaker 2: Excisely to the naked eye, the Moon is a barren rock,
just dust and craters. But in nineteen eighty six, samples
and testing revealed that the Lumur landscape contains extremely high
amounts of helium three.
Speaker 1: Helium three. I've heard this mentioned in sci fi movies,
but break it down for us. Why is helium three
so special? Why would aliens care?
Speaker 2: It is the absolute holy grail of nuclear fusion. Unlike
nuclear fission, which we use today and produces dangerous radioactive waste,
fusion with helium three is clean, it's incredibly powerful, and
it is non radioactive.
Speaker 1: Give me a stat how powerful are we talking.
Speaker 2: The source states that a single space shuttle load of
helium three could power the entire United States for a year.
Speaker 1: One shuttle a year. That is, that's economy changing, that's
world changing. You wouldn't need oil, coal, anything.
Speaker 2: So if we humans are currently planning missions to mine
them moon for helium three, which by the way, China
and the US are actively discussing right now, why wouldn't
an advanced civilization have done the exact same thing a
million years ago?
Speaker 1: It makes total sense. If you're traveling between stars, you
don't carry all your fuel with you, you'd be too heavy.
You stop at the local chevron, and the Moon is
a perfect chevron. It's low gravity, so it's easy to
take off again, and it's full of helium three.
Speaker 2: And if the Moon is the gas station, Earth.
Speaker 1: Is the hardware store or the jewelry store.
Speaker 2: No, not jewelry, the hardware store. This brings us back
down to Earth, specifically to the cradle of civilization, Sumeria.
Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite parts of history because
it's so sudden. The Sumerian culture in what is now
Iraq between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers around thirty five
hundred BC. They just pop up.
Speaker 2: It is historically abrupt. We go from scattered hunter gatherers
to a society with city grids that look like modern Manhattan,
complete with cobblestones, sewage systems, advanced agriculture, and most importantly writing.
Speaker 1: Kidney form A little wedge shapes the clay.
Speaker 2: Yes, they had courts of law, complex astronomy, and advanced mathematics.
And we found thousands of these clay tablets, twenty two
thousand of them discovered in the ruins of Nineveh in
the nineteenth century.
Speaker 1: And when scholars finally translated them, they found stories that
sounded incredibly familiar.
Speaker 2: They found the precursors to the biblical stories the Great Flood,
the creation of Man from clay. These stories existed in
Sumeria long before the Book of Genesis was written, but
in nineteen seventy six a scholar named Zechariah Sitchen offered
a highly controversial translation in.
Speaker 1: His book The Earth Chronicles.
Speaker 2: Sitchen claimed the tablets describe an alien race known as
the Anunaki, and, according to his reading of the cuneiform.
They didn't come here to be worshiped as ethereal gods.
They came here to dig.
Speaker 1: To dig for gold.
Speaker 2: Correct, the gods were miners.
Speaker 1: But why gold? I mean, I get that we like gold.
It's shiny, looks great on a watch. But if you
have a spaceship capable of interstellar travel, surely you don't
need currency. You aren't buying things.
Speaker 2: This is where we need to separate golds perceived esthetic
value from its scientific utility. Sitchen's theory is twofold. First,
he claims their home planet, which he called Nibiru, was
suffering from severe atmospheric.
Speaker 1: Depletion like climate change on steroids.
Speaker 2: Yes, they needed to suspend gold particles in their atmosphere
to create a reflective shield to save their planet.
Speaker 1: Like geoengineering or planetary engineering putting up a giant gold
sunshade in the sky exactly.
Speaker 2: And that actually aligns with some modern scientific theories about
how to repair a damaged atmosphere or cool a planet.
But even if you ignore the dying planet theory, look
at how we use gold today in high tech industries.
Speaker 1: It's in our phones, it's in our computers. You can
pull gold out of old motherboards.
Speaker 2: It is the ultimate metal for technology. It is the
third best conductor of electricity. But unlike silver or copper,
it does not tarnish or corrode. It is practically immortal.
It reflects infrared radiation incredibly well.
Speaker 1: That's why the visors on astronaut helmets are gold coated,
right to protect their eyes from the unfiltered sun in space.
Speaker 2: Correct. So if you are a spacefaring civilization building ships
that need to last centuries in the harsh vacuum of space,
you need gold. You need it for circuitry, for radiation shielding,
for seamless connectors. It's not money to them, it's the wiring,
it's the building material survival.
Speaker 1: So the Aninachi come here, they find goal. They start digging.
But digging is hard work. It's hot, it's heavy, it's dangerous.
Speaker 2: And according to Sitchin's translations, the Ananachi tired of the
relentless labor. They mutinied against their leaders. They wanted a
workforce to do the heavy lifting.
Speaker 1: And they looked at the local wildlife, the early Homidid's
running around and said, we can work with this.
Speaker 2: Let's upgrade them. It suggests we were the workforce the
gods were the supervisors, the engineers, and humanity was genetically
altered to be the labor in a global mining colony.
Speaker 1: That is humbling. It's also a little depressing. We like
to think where the center of the universe made in
the image of the divine, and really we're just the
local hires for a mining operation who eventually got too
smart for our own good.
Speaker 2: It shifts the narrative significantly. But if we follow this
thread that these beings were physically here walking among us,
supervising us, it implies interaction, close prolonged interaction, and that
leads to the question of physical evidence left not just
in the dirt, but on us. On human biology.
Speaker 1: This brings us to the skulls, and I have to say,
looking at the pictures and the source file you sent,
these things are pure nightmare fuel.
Speaker 2: The elongated skulls of Paracas, Peru, specifically from Kowachi, the
ancient capital of the Nosca people.
Speaker 1: For everyone listening, I want to describe what we're looking
at here. Imagine a normal human skull, but instead of
rounding off at the top and back, the cranium just
continues upward and backward, almost like a cone or a
massive swept back dome. They are huge.
Speaker 2: They were unearthed in nineteen ten by the anthropologist alesher Tlchica,
and they immediately sparked a massive debate and.
Speaker 1: The immediate reaction from skeptics. The standard textbook answer is headbinding.
Speaker 2: And that is a completely valid, historically documented practice. We
know cultures did this. We call it cranial deformation. We
have photographs from the late nineteenth century of the mong
Betu tribe and the African Congo tightly wrapping infants heads
in cloth or clamping them between wooden boards.
Speaker 1: Which sounds horrific. I mean doing that to a baby.
Speaker 2: It is incredibly painful and highly dangerous. It can cause
severe brain damage, it can kill the child. The skull
of an infant is malleable, so they force it into
this shape as it grows. But the source points out
a massive global mystery here, right.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just in Peru.
Speaker 2: No, this practice was found in the Congo, it was
found in Malta in the Mediterranean, it was found in
Vanuatu and on incredibly remote islands in the Pacific.
Speaker 1: That's the aha moment for me. Why would completely unconnected
cultures separated by massive oceans in thousands of years all
wake up one day and decide, hey, let's squash our
babies heads into this exact specific cone shape.
Speaker 2: That is the pivotal question. Why this specific shape? Anthropologists
usually default to saying it was a mark of social
status or it was considered beautiful. But why is that beautiful?
Why is a deformed, elongated head a status symbol across
isolated continents.
Speaker 1: The ancient astronaut theory has a simple answer. Mimicry.
Speaker 2: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Speaker 1: It's the cargo cult mentality. Like during World War two,
island tribes in the Pacific saw American planes land and
bring food and supplies. So when the war ended and
the planes left, the tribes built straw planes and carved
wooden headsets to try and bring the gods back. They
mimic the behavior to get the result exactly.
Speaker 2: The source argues that these ancient cultures weren't just being
arbitrarily creative with their children's skulls. They wouldn't risk their
infants lives for a random fashion statement. They were trying
to look like someone they had actually seen.
Speaker 1: They saw the gods, the Innaki, or whoever was running
the mining operation, and these beings had naturally large, elongated heads.
Speaker 2: The gods have big heads, and the gods have power
and magic, which is just advanced technology. Then the humans think,
if I make my child's head look like that, maybe
they will have that power too, maybe they will be
treated better by the supervisors.
Speaker 1: It's tragic, really, breaking your own child's skull to try
and look like the boss.
Speaker 2: It is a dark thought, and the source connects this
ancient mimicry to the modern pop culture image of the
gray alien. You know, the archetype. Spindly body, huge elongated head,
massive almond eyes.
Speaker 1: It's the image everyone draws when you say the word alien.
It's on T shirts and bumper stickers.
Speaker 2: The source suggests that this archetype exists so strongly in
our collective subconscious because it is a deeply buried race memory.
We saw them, they looked like that, we tried to
copy them.
Speaker 1: It connects everything. The gold mining supervisors had the long heads.
The humans copied the long heads to fit in or
gain status. It's all consistent.
Speaker 2: Consistent, Yes, disturbing. Also, yes, the physical impression on our
culture is indelible.
Speaker 1: So let's look at the timeline we've built. We have
the map at the Ingostone. We have the highway of
the vile vortices. We have the job description mining for
healium three in gold. We have the uniform, the elongated skulls.
But where are they now? If they were here, did
they just pack up and leave?
Speaker 2: That is the final thread of our deep dive today,
and perhaps the most unsettling one, the question of their
current whereabouts?
Speaker 1: Because we always look up right. We have SETI pointing
massive radio dishes at the stars. We're constantly scanning for
signals from Alpha Centauri or wherever. But the source material
says we're looking in the completely wrong direction.
Speaker 2: You should be looking down into the ocean. Think about
the pure statistics of our planet. We have mapped the
surface of Mars more accurately than we have mapped the
floor of the Pacific Ocean. Seventy percent of our planet
is water. It is a massive, opaque, impenetrable shield.
Speaker 1: The source introduces this concept of USO's unidentified submersible objects.
We always hear about us but USO's are just as
common in the reports.
Speaker 2: We have reports dating back to Columbus's logs and continuing
right up to modern navy sightings of massive objects glowing
and moving underwater, but not just drifting, moving at speeds
that completely defy or understanding of fluid dynamics.
Speaker 1: Hundreds of knots underwater, right, yeah, which should be impossible.
The water resistance alone would crush your rip a conventional.
Speaker 2: Ship apart, unless you have technology that negates mass or resistance,
a localized gravity envelope. Perhaps. The source mentions Arnold Land,
a retired surgeon from Minnesota who was fascinated by extreme
depth diving physiology. He patented a liquid air scuba suit,
speculating on the possibility of liquid breathing.
Speaker 1: Like the movie The Abyss where they breathe the pink
liquid so they don't get crushed by the pressure.
Speaker 2: Exactly like that. But the broader theory presented in the
source is tactical. If you are in advanced civilization and
you want to observe earth or continue to mine Earth
without being bothered by the noisy, violent monkeys on the surface,
where you go.
Speaker 1: You go where the monkeys can't go. You go to
the bottom of the Marianas Trench.
Speaker 2: It is the perfect hiding spot. It's safe, it's secluded,
it's geologically stable in the deep basins, the temperature doesn't fluctuate.
Surface storms, even nuclear wars wouldn't really reach you. If
you wanted to hide a base the size of Manhattan
on Earth, the bottom of the ocean is the only
viable place to do.
Speaker 1: It makes me think about those ancient myths again, the
OANs and Sumeria.
Speaker 2: Yes, the amphibious gods.
Speaker 1: They were described as beings literally fishmen who came out
of the sea during the day to teach the Sumerians
writing math and law, and then walked back into the
sea at night. I always thought that was just weird
artistic license, a metaphor.
Speaker 2: But in this context, it doesn't sound like a metaphor.
It sounds like a daily commute. They lived in the
underwater base, commuted to the surface to supervise the workers
and manage the civilization, and went home at night.
Speaker 1: Man, that turns the whole idea of dominion over the
Earth on its head. Walk around thinking we own the place,
We build our cities, we fight our wars, we draw
our borders on maps, but really we only live on
the dry islands. We're just squatting on the thirty percent
of the planet. That sticks out of the water.
Speaker 2: We live on the roof. The real landlords might be
living in the house below.
Speaker 1: And the source material speculates on the zoo hypothesis or
the Petri Dish theory that Earth isn't just a mine,
it's a genetic experiment.
Speaker 2: If they engineered us, as Sitchen suggests to be workers,
are they still monitoring the experiment? The source asks a
very pointed question, are they waiting to upgrade humanity again?
Speaker 1: Or are they waiting for us to mess up?
Speaker 2: That is the ultimate fear. If we are the crop,
are they waiting for the harvest? Or if we are
the tenants, are we getting dangerously close to eviction because
we are actively trashing the apartment.
Speaker 1: We're certainly trashing the apartment. I mean, look at the pollution,
the wars.
Speaker 2: It connects back to the concept of first that you
introduced at the beginning. If they were here first, and
they are still here, we are guests and we are
not being very polite guests.
Speaker 1: That is a terrifying thought to end on. But it
really forces you to think. I mean, we've covered so
much ground today, from the astronomical carvings in Brazil to
the magnetic wormholes from the gold mines of ancient Iraq
to the underwater bases in the Pacific.
Speaker 2: It is a remarkably consistent narrative. That is what makes
it so sticky for researchers. You have these completely desparate
things a rock, a clay tablet, a deformed skull, a
modern navy report, and when you thread them together with
the ancient astronaut theory, they fit.
Speaker 1: They fit a pattern. Whether that pattern is real or
just the ultimate, grandest conspiracy theory, that's for you listening
to decide.
Speaker 2: Indeed, our job is to present the threads. You have
to decide if they make a tapestry.
Speaker 1: So I have a question for you listening right now.
I want you to really picture this tonight. You're standing
on the beach at night. You're looking out at the
dark water. The waves are crashing.
Speaker 2: And you know that down there, five miles down in
the pitch black there might be lights.
Speaker 1: If the theories in today's thrilling threads are true, if
there is an advanced civilization hiding in our oceans or
watching from the moon, would you want them to reveal
themselves to us tomorrow.
Speaker 2: It is a massive double edged sword confirmation would change
absolutely everything, religion, science, politics, our entire understanding of our place,
and the food chain. It would all crumble and have
to be rebuilt from scratch.
Speaker 1: Or considering we might just be a genetically engineered mining
colony to them, are we better off if they stay hidden?
Maybe ignorance really is bliss. If the landlords come out
of the basement, they might just want to collect the rent.
I honestly don't know my answer, but I want to
know yours. Leave your answer in the comments.
Speaker 2: It is certainly something to ponder the next time you
look at the stars or the ocean. We are not
alone PERHPS. We never were.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on this deep dive on thrilling threads.
Keep pulling at the loose ends. You never know what
might unravel until next time.