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And again, thank you so much for your support. And

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it's Tuesday, It's noon, and so we chat with Andrew Dunn.

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He is a contributing columnist over at the Charlotte Observer

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and the Raleigh News and Observer. He's also the publisher

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of newsletter long Leaf Politics longleafpol dot com.

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Speaker 1: Andrew, how are you, sir?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm doing pretty good. How were you?

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Speaker 4: Good? Good?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing all right. Hope you had a good weekend,

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good Father's Day. And apparently you wrote about this over

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at Longleaf Politics. You took a train from Charlotte to Raleigh.

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Was this the Carolina or there's another one? I forget

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what it's called.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I took the Piedmont up and the

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Carolinian back, or or maybe the other way around. I

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can't quite remember, but yeah, I had a just a

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quick day trip meeting in Raleigh, and I really didn't

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want to drive six hours, and I had my four

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year old with me, so I thought it would be

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fun for us to take the train. So what I

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wrote was, you know, it was a good experience.

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Speaker 1: You know, the.

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Speaker 3: WiFi is not super but I could write a little

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bit and send a few emails. But when I got back,

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I just started thinking about, you know, what role does

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or should train travel play in North Carolina transportation. It

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just seems like we're always, you know, in the running

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for some sort of federal grant to add more of

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those trains. We we sometimes talk about high speed rail

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between the two cities, and you know, overall, I think

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there is probably a role for train travel as the

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state grows, but I totally get why, especially conservatives, have

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some skepticism there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I remember I was a reporter here in

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Charlotte during Pat McCrory's push for the original you know

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one sent sales tax to build the South Line, and

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his argument was always that it was to provide options

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and to focus development along the South Corridor light rail line,

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and that has been the case that that has worked.

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I mean, you go down into the South End now

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and it's just jam packed filled with apartments, and you know,

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the streets are all activated, you've got businesses and stuff,

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and that was part of the plan. But I thought

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you made a good connection here with the the rural

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areas that are growing, and you mentioned Midland is one

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of them, Newton is another. And you know, then there

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was the story about Albemarle exploding in population, and so

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how do we connect these places to the larger urban

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areas where people then would have the option to ride

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the train in And maybe this is my bias too,

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because I'm from Long Island, New York, and like you

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could jump on the train out on the island and

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in an hour you were in the city.

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Speaker 1: So maybe that's my bias.

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Speaker 3: No, I think you're exactly right. I mean, for now,

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we've kind of avoided that long term question. But you know,

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Charlotte continues to grow, the whole region continues to grow.

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Albemarle it shocked me to see Albemarle as a top

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ten growing area in the entire country, but it makes

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some sense.

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Speaker 5: You know, the.

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Speaker 3: Solution to housing affordability, all those things, all those buzzwords

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that we talk a lot about. Is building more housing,

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you know, not rent control, not any of that nonsense.

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It's building more houses. And where are you going to

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build more houses. It's in those more outlying areas. It's

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your Albumarles, your midlands. You know, if you drive through

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there now you see new housing communities popping up all

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the time.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And I really think there is a limit to how

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many lanes you can put on a highway or how

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many cars that you can accommodate, and so at some point,

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uh trains become inevitable.

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Speaker 2: So the problem with this mode of transport, I think,

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is that it's usually run by a government entity, and

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you know all the problems that are attending to that.

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you've got you know, service that is in fantastic and

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you know time savings that may not actually save a

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lot of time. So I guess that's to me, it

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goes back to what I heard that somebody say this

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years and years ago, was that the if people thought

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they were getting good value for their taxes, they wouldn't

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have a lot of the objections to the government spending.

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Speaker 1: The problem is that they.

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Speaker 2: Don't see the value in what they're in what they're getting,

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and I don't know how you solve that for that issue,

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particularly among conservatives.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's totally fair. I mean you just think about

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the red Line. You know, Charlotte's been promising a train

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from Charlotte up to the Lake Norman area for gosh

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decades now still hasn't happened, you know, if maybe it'll

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happen in the future now that Norfolk Southern has you know,

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given us the permission to use the train, but there's

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a lot of distrust there and it's totally warranted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that that's over at long Leaf Politics, long

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leafpol dot com. Train travel isn't just for liberals with

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and by the way, tip of the hat there for

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the Atlas shrug reference in your piece too. And then

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let's talk a little bit about Roy Cooper, but mainly

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Jeff Jackson. And you start off your piece at the

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Charlott Observer.

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Speaker 1: This op ed.

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Speaker 2: The longer Roy Cooper takes to decide whether to run

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for US Senate, the more it seems like the answer

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will be no. And when I read that line. I thought,

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that's just classic Roy, you know, like waiting for years

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and years and years when everybody's like always going to

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run for governor.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he's going to run for governor. And then he

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doesn't run for governor.

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Speaker 2: He's just gonna, you know, stay camped out in the

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Attorney General's office. But you seem to think that that

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he's acting and speaking like he's not going to run

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for this US Senate seat that's held right now by

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Tom Tillis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I could be completely wrong. You know, Cooper

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could come out later today and announce that he's running

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for Senate and I wouldn't be shocked. But you know,

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the more I especially when I was watching his little clip,

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his video clip from the portrait and veiling at the

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Governor's mansion, you know, I'm trying, I'm watching that clip,

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trying to read the tea leaves. You know, how what

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what does he sound like? And Yeah, to me, he's

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he didn't sound like somebody who was gearing up to

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launch another campaign. He sounded more reflective and someone coming

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to terms with the end of an era. You know

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that said, I don't have any inside info into his

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mental state. There it's just more speculation at this point.

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Speaker 2: But if he does not run, then you say, that

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could make Attorney General Jeff Jackson the next man up

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to run for this US Senate seat. And so I

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don't know if the Attorney General Jackson listens to you

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for advice on these things, but you're saying probably not

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a good idea, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: Right, That's exactly right. So I don't think that National

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Democrats are going to be satisfied with Wiley Nickel as

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their standard bearer in twenty twenty six. You know, they

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really see this seat as crucial for their national plans.

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So I would expect Cooper does bow out that they're

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going to turn their eyes over to Attorney General Jackson.

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You know, he's very much a rising star. We've talked

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about him, you know, plenty of times over the past

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couple months. He's got the excitement among the base and

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among you know, more Democratic mainstays. He's got some of

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that star power that I think the National Democrats would

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be looking for. But you know, I argue that it's

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not the right time. Why not, Well, you know, it

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almost seems too good to be true, right, you know,

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he's two years into this term, so he could run.

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If he loses, then it's kind of no harm, no foul.

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He goes back to just being Attorney general. But I

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don't think that's quite right. I think that politics is

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a game of timing. And if he runs here and

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he does lose, and I think there would be at

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least fifty to fifty shot probably. You know, if that

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was a matchup, I would get Tom tillis a slight

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edge in that race. And I think he's basically burned

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himself out. He's got this is you know, he's got

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one shot at jumping up to the next level before

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he turns into and also ran, and I just don't

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think that it's a worthy gamble for him.

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Speaker 2: Well, and also you pointed out in this piece, and

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I think this is a very real concern and criticism

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that people have of him was that he's always looking

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for the next gig, and this would confirm that suspicion

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that he's never really satisfied with whatever job he's currently holding.

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He's trying to get to a national office, probably with

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aspirations to be president, And so if people are comfortable

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with just rewarding that, then I guess so be it.

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But I think a lot of people kind of cringe

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at that, at those types of moves that, Okay, I

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got this job, I just got elected.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm going to run for something.

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Speaker 3: Else, right. I mean, that's absolutely a concern, and it

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doesn't always happen that way. I mean, it worked out

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these leaf for Barack Obama. But you know, if it

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doesn't work, that's when you get the coold or would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Andrew down.

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Speaker 2: You can read his work at the Charlotte Observer on

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the op ed page and also at his site longleafpolitics

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dot com. Are longleafpol dot com. Andrew, good to talk

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with you, sir. Keep up the good work, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Got an email here from John to Pete at vpteclenarshow

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dot com. Roy Cooper is the weakest candidate the Democrats

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could put up for Senate.

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Speaker 1: It will be Jeff Jackson. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, and Andrew Dunn mentioned Wiley Nickel and he's he's

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just he doesn't move the needle. Former state representative or senator.

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I think I forget, but he was in the legislature

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and then he may have been, you know, oppressed and

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victimized by the redistricting Republicans or something.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, so he just he is one of those guys.

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He's like.

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Speaker 2: He's like a discount store Jeff Jackson, all right, like

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he's Jeff Jackson, but on sale on clearance.

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Speaker 1: You know, he.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't he doesn't captivate and animate. He doesn't have the

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gravitas dare I say, or the on screen charisma that

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Jeff Jackson has when he's doing his TikTok videos for

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the communist Chinese platform. So I don't think I'm with

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Andrew on that. I don't think that Democrats want him

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to be the standard bearer. But you never know with

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Jeff Jackson, because even if he is interested in running

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for the seat, like he was against Ted Bud, Sorry

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Ted Bud, if there is another candidate on the Democrat

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side that enters the race and that candidate is of

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a protected class status, Jackson would have to step aside again,

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because that was the rationale that he did last time, right,

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That's why he stepped aside last time for Sherry Beasley

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to run. This was for her, and you know, I'll

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run for something else. Of course, he ran for the

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congressional seat in the Gerrymander district that he won, and

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then they redrew those lines and he lost.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's still way too early to tell, but people are

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already starting. They have to be, you know, maneuvering right now.

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And Wiley Nicol is the only one that's announced. In fact,

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he's announced. I think he's up to three times. He's

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done like three formal announcements. And I don't know why

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he thinks everybody has forgotten that he's running for the

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US Senate seat. He's declared to be a candidate, except

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for the fact that everybody kind of has forgotten about

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it because it's him, and like he just he's not

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really well known. Jeff Jackson now has a statewide position,

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he has the big social media following. But you're the

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sitting attorney general. You just got the gig, right, You

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just asked for this job, and the first thing you're

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gonna do is turn around and then run for a

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different job. So I'm unclear as to how much that

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would hurt him, if at all.

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Speaker 1: I know, there was gosh, what was it, Keith Young, Not.

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Speaker 2: From the WBT news center, but there was a guy

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named Keith Young up in Asheville, and this guy won

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a seat on the Asheville City Council and immediately like

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the next year, the first like in his first year

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as a city councilman. He then tried to run or

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did run for the county Commission, and then he tried

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to run for Congress. He lost all of those times,

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and then he was eventually defeated in the Asheville primaries.

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But I just don't think that people they don't take

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too kindly to that when you ask for a gig

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and you're like, I'm going to be your representative. I'm

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going to work for you the people and all of this,

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and then you turn around immediately and say I want

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a different job. I feel like people get their feelings

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hurt over stuff like that. So it might be too

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soon for him. And if he just waits, you know,

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does another you know, does one term runs for reelection.

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If he wins reelection, then he could do it again.

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Right then he could run for US Senate seat against

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Ted Budd if Bud is going to run for reelection,

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but like that seat would come open, or he could

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try to make a run for governor. If Josh Stein

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is looking to make a run for a president, because

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that's the that's the scuttle butt up in Raleigh that

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he's positioning himself to do that. I don't know if

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he is. Josh Stein does not clue me in on

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his plans and such, but yeah, we'll see, we're tracking it. Also,

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kudos to Nate mora Beto over at WCNC, this is

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the NBC television affiliate here in Charlotte. They went back,

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and he went back and got public records turned over

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to him from the city of Charlotte, and it turns

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out that the three hundred five thousand dollars payoff to

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our police chief was not the first large chunk of

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All right, So, WCNC, newly obtained public records show the

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City of Charlotte paid Johnny Jennings moving expenses after the

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city manager named the longtime Charlotte Mecklenberg Police Department employee

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to be police chief way back in twenty twenty record

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show that they paid him moving expenses totaling seventy seven

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thousand dollars. Seventy seven thousand dollars. I have been paid

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moving expenses in the past. I have never been paid

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anything close to seventy seven large Holy smokes.

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Speaker 1: What service did you use to move?

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Speaker 2: Did you like buy like a storage facility or something like,

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not just like rent a unit. I'm saying bought the

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whole thing. Seventy seven thousand dollars in moving expenses. Record

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show at the time, Jennings was living in a neighboring county.

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From what I understand, it was Union County, way off

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in Union County, and so that even if you're even

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if you're doing it by mileage, there's still no way

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seventy seven thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: That is absurd.

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Speaker 2: The city's twenty twenty job posting for the position listed

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a minimum requirement for the incoming chief to live within

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the city limits within three months of the higher date. Okay,

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that's pretty standard. In fact, in North Carolina, if you're

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a law enforcement officer, I believe you actually have to

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live in North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: So it's not a that's not a.

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Speaker 2: Huge surprise that there would be this residency require meant

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for the chief of police. So and he would have

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known this. He would have known this prior to getting

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the job. Oh and by the way, with the moving

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expenses thing, you usually have to submit the receipts, you know,

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you got to show the receipts, and then you get

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paid back what you spent. It's not just like one

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big fat check and you can just spend it however

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you want, and we totally trust that it's all for

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moving expenses. I'm kind of getting this suspicion here, and

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maybe it's unwarranted, but given the history of the payoffs

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to the police chief, I'm kind I'm kind of suspecting

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that maybe they just gave him a whole boatload of

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money and called it a moving expense and it was

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basically just a bonus. I like I cannot fathom, Like,

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did you take a loss on your house or something.

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Speaker 1: Like you had to move?

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Speaker 2: Maybe you just moved into Like I'm trying to think

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of a scenario where you could accrue that kind of

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expense for moving from Union County to Mecklenburg County. Does

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that How does that square? So this is obviously now

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above and beyond the three hundred five thousand dollars separation

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agreement that we all learned about a couple of weeks ago.

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WCNC reports a mid mounting pressure and an investigation by

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the state auditor, the police chief eventually released the details

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of his separation agreement. The agreement includes a promise to

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retire on January one, twenty twenty six. The settlement will

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actually cost taxpayers more money down the road, since it's

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boosting his partially taxpayer funded pension by at least nine

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grand extra per year for the rest.

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Speaker 1: Of his life.

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Speaker 2: This is sometimes referred to as pension spiking, where you

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load up a bunch of compensation in the final few

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years of your tenure and then that becomes the chunk

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of time that they look at. I think it's like

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a four year window that they look at your highest

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paid consecutive years and they take those to determine your pension.

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And so you just jack up the compensation levels at

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the end of your tenure, and you do that for

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four years, and then you use that number to calculate

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the pension, so you end up with a much higher

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pension for the rest of your life. David McGary. He

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is the research director at Taxpayers Protection Alliance. He's quoted

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in this piece. He says, there seems to be a

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consistent pattern in which the city has paid surprisingly large

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amounts of money to the police chief over the course

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of his career, which should raise taxpayers eyebrows. You can't

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see it, but my eyebrows are raised here, mister McGarry.

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They are raised. Seventy seven thousand dollars. He says, that's

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the annual income of many Americans. It's higher than the

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median household income in North Carolina. The TPA, nonpartisan nonprofit

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has remained critical of the lack of transparency showed by

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the City of Charlotte throughout this controversy. McGarry said, while

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it's reasonable for a city to assume some of the

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costs of a move to incentivize securing the best candidates,

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seventy seven thousand dollars to change zip codes sounds excessive.

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I think there's a perfectly rational, logical explanation for why

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this would seem to be excessive.

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Speaker 1: It's because it's excessive. That's why it sounds excessive.

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Speaker 2: Because it is all right, let me go over and

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chat with Earl Hello earl, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 4: How you doing? Hey, all right, let me put a

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little insight into this. Seventy seven thousand dollars to relocate

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is really not that much. Let me give you an example.

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I relocated twice with my company, and I relocated my

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last relocation. It was from a neighboring state. And what

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a seventy seven thousand I'm assuming what it goes towards

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is Okay, I had a house in my own location.

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I have to sell that house, so my relative needy

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seven percent. That comes out of the seventy seven thousand. Okay.

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When you moved to Charlotte, you need to be in

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temporary housing. That's about three to four thousand dollars a

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month just for somebody to go month to month temporary,

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So that gets out of that. That goes out of

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the seventy seven thousand. When you buy your new plates,

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you got to play the closing costs and typically most

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companies will also give you one percent towards the well,

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I'll give you one point, which is typically one percent

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of the mortgage, So that comes out of the seventy

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seven thousand. Okay, when you move it, if you got

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a wife and if they're in some type of private

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school and they got to move in the middle of that,

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there's probably a penalty that comes out of the seventy

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seven thousand. Any why you're in short term leasing, you

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got to have meals that come out of the seventy

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seven thousand, And honestly, you can go through seventy seven

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thousand with a supper relocation a couple of months called

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just to move the furniture and packet of your own place,

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that could be up to twenty thousand. So this this

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is normal in corporate America to give that much as

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a relocation. And then they mentioned so you.

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Speaker 1: Mentioned hang on earlier. Hang On.

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Speaker 2: Those are all very good points, although I would I

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would question number one, why the seven percent for your

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realtor thought it was six percent split three to three

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and three for the buyer and seller realtors. And also,

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if you're selling your house, why would the city of

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Charlotte need to pay your realtor commission when that comes

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out of the price of the house.

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Speaker 4: Dub When I sold my house my relator, it may

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have been seven percent. That's what I had to give her,

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and she pretty much taken or leave it and I

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was in a time crunch that I needed to sell

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my house. And you know, because you don't want to

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be in corporate I mean housing too long because again

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it's going to eat up and being let me give

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you another but but.

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Speaker 1: Hang on so early. But earl the realtor commissions.

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Speaker 2: Those are that happens all the I mean, that's in

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every that's in every sale of a house, purchase and

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sale like that. Three percent is always part of the

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equation buying or selling. So why is it on the

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taxpayers to pay for that? Also, why is it on

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taxpayers to pay for his meals?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's what corporate a mayba. Why why shouldn't it

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be I.

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Speaker 1: Guess he's going to be eating no matter where he's living.

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Speaker 4: Well, it depends. When I went looking for short turned places,

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I was in a hotel that was the cheapest I

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could get. I mean, and honestly, I'm being if you

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got a family and I moved here single, if you

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come with a family, imagine that seventy seven thousand they

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could be eating up in a month. And then and

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then they mentioned the bonus that is typical in corporation.

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If you move somebody, it's usually a one month a

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one to three month salary in advance. Also, and the

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reasoning for that lobster is, Okay, you got your new place,

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You're gonna need window treatments, You're gonna probably need to

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change some things. So they want to assist you in

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that moment too. Typically relocation, they want to make it

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seamless for the person that's moving to do that job.

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They don't want to make it difficult that you got

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to go in the hole to move for a corporation.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have never worked for a corporation that's spent

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anything near that amount of money. So that's news to me, Earl.

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I appreciate the info. Okay, no problem, Yeah, YouTube, take

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Got a message here from Greg. I've been relocated a

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couple of times to Georgia and Alabama. Eleven thousand dollars

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I received in twenty fourteen. In twenty twenty two, I

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got twenty thousand dollars for the relocation costs. I had

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never heard of real estate costs being included, and how

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you choose to live is pretty much on you. You

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could actually pocket a lot of money if your company

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pays the real estate fees, especially if you decide to

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relocate to a waterfront house on Lake Norman, for instance.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Rob, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 5: Hey Rob, Hey, good afternoon. Thank you very much for

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letting me on your a program. Sure, I don't get

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an opportunity to listen to you as much as I like,

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But I'm out this afternoon running a few errands and

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I heard you talking about this ongoing scandal, and I'm

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just kind of wondering why. And this is a rhetorical question. Okay,

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So here we go. First of all, disclaimer, Okay, I'm

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an American who happens to be black, been black for

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seventy years. Okay, Okay, okay, So number one, number two

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black police chief, number number number three, black mayor, number

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four of black people on the council for the majority, Okay,

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a black folks.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 5: So the reason I'm put this out is, you got

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black on black crime here, got going on?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: If black on black.

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Speaker 5: You got black on black crime. And somebody had to

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say it, and I'm saying it. I'm saying it loud,

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and I'm saying it proud. It's black on black And

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y'all liberals out there in the audience, y'all voted these

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y'all voted these negroes in.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Rob, come on, now.

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Speaker 5: Live with them, y'all live with them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well I mean that. Okay, So I all right,

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I appreciate. I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 4: Rob.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: To me, this isn't a racial thing, because bad behavior

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is on display by all races, So like it doesn't like.

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To me, that's not a that's not a vital part

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of this story. It's to me, it doesn't matter because

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anytime you have an unguarded store of value, it will

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be beset upon by parasites. So you have to guard

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your store of value. By the way, one other quick

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point regarding Earl's call. The current relocation policy for the

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City of Charlotte allows up to sixty thousand in relocation

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costs for deputy department directors and higher and above twenty

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four thousand would go towards expenses thirty six grand helping

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with costs linked to selling an employee's primary home. Anything

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above the sixty k would need city council approval, and

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to be eligible, you must be relocating from a distance

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greater than fifty miles.

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Speaker 1: He was only thirty miles away.

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Speaker 2: All right, that'll do it for this episode.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening.

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thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

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while I'm gone.